doom-eternal

[pallid coral]

yeah but i think you have like 14 days to refund but im not sure

[midnight sparrow]

What else would be a good name? DOOM 2020 Hell on Earth

[mossy sail]

Yeah this one would be good! Your audience is a group of people who finally came to the doom franchise to let out their frusterations with covid, so give it to them

[midnight sparrow]

Guess 2020 was hell on earth lol

[mossy sail]

Id have to know more about the projects of doom or its lore to understand 🪵

[midnight sparrow]

m0nologue made a lore guide

[grizzled path]

doom is just 2020 but the demons are people who want to get within 6 feet of you

[midnight sparrow]

There also some other places that have great information on Doom from a more historical standpoint

Ahoy made a good video on Doom

[sacred dirge]

Its gold

[formal scaffold]

punch without blood punch is actually pretty useful

[azure oriole]

You are lying

[formal scaffold]

it knocks back some enemies to cancel out their attacks

and gives you time to shoot them

not the most useful thing but its still useful

[grizzled path]

you think demons have balls
can doomslayer rip their balls off

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah like zombies and maybe Imps. Just cause it can do that doesn’t make it useful. It’s a billion times better to just shoot

[formal scaffold]

true

now that i thnk abut it you are right it isnt useful

[formal scaffold]

cyberdemon/tyrant has a loincloth

why did they call it a tyrant

[midnight sparrow]

Same with his Half-Life, Wolfenstein, and Quake videos

[formal scaffold]

i mean tyrant sounds way cooler im just wondering why they changed it

[formal scaffold]

yeah

[pearl lotus]

I'm saying

It confused me at first

[formal scaffold]

its probably because most demons have augmented cyber stuff now so now its not really a cyberdemon

[pearl lotus]

True

[formal scaffold]

i hate and love marauders at the same time

they are really hard to beat and terrifying and give me the same feeling as hearing an archvile in doom 2

but they are fun to fiht and unlike archviles i want to fight them again

[azure oriole]

Hi

[hoary bough]

Cuz the cyberdemon was a boss in 2016

[formal scaffold]

true

id should release an april fools update for eternal which is a new master level for final sin

but

the icon of sin is in a wall again

[hoary bough]

That would be great but I find it unlikely

[sacred dirge]

Cyberdemon is more so a general term for a demon with cyber enhancements. The cyberdemon in 2016 was the last balgaar demon

[formal scaffold]

thats probably why they changed it

[formal scaffold]

imps, zombies, former humans, prowlers, and maybe more

[midnight sparrow]

Very very inconsequential enemies that are way easier to deal with by just shooting. There are also WAY better ways to disrupt enemy attacks

[formal scaffold]

true

[azure oriole]

Does anyone know else here despise the marauders?

*does anyone else here despise the marauders

[formal scaffold]

i do but i also think they are really good enemies

what is up with the uac spokesperson

[cloud siren]

hi, is there any mod that adds back old marauder? before its nerf

[strange gale]

i don't believe he was ever nerfed (directly)

[cloud siren]

my friend told me he was nerfed cuz was too powerful

[strange gale]

PB started causing a guaranteed falter sometime around 5.0 which could be called a nerf since it allows for easy double slob but that's really it

[slow sigil]

Overall marauder has been buffed more then nerfed

1.0 icebomb patch and that pb thing where the only things that impacted him

[umbral dew]

My favourite pro tip is to defeat a tyrant shoot at it until it dies my favourite pro tip of all time

[sacred dirge]

The best

[eternal wyvern]

VEGA keeps saying in the campaign how the demons are consuming Earth, but when you go on a mission they’re just sitting around fighting each other.

I really wonder how they consumed Earth considering how stupid they are

[lucid geyser]

Is there a #speedrunning for Steam achievements?

[jaunty vapor]

Funnily enough he was able to get faltered by PB, but only if you didn't have the mastery.

5.0 fixed that bug (so still a "nerf" to him, but more a bug fix than anything else).

[jaunty vapor]

There's no category for getting all achievements on SRC, but that doesn't disclude someone from speedrunning that.

If enough people started running that as a category, it could eventually get an official leaderboard (that's pretty much how most categories on SRC start aside from maybe Any% since that one's a given for most games)

[supple belfry]

i did it

i beat ultra nightmare, i can finally rest

[stiff copper]

I’m on nightmare at the soul factory

I forgot to get the unmaker

[slow sigil]

It's weak anyways

[stiff copper]

How do people like quick switch

I’m almost done with the game and I never spam switched

[wide vigil]

Hi

[eternal otter]

The opening to this game did not have to go so hard

[slow sigil]

Cause it's strong

[sacred dirge]

It increases dps and helps melt faster. It isn't necessary thing to beat the game

[lilac shadow]

It will be necessary for master levels tho

[formal scaffold]

it knocks the shield soldiers back a bit which allows you to shoot them with ssg without having to destroy their shields

[midnight sparrow]

Wanna know another way that's way better then punching to get around the shield soldiers shield without the plasma rifle?

-Normal Blood Punch
-SSG Meathook makes them move there shields
-Frag Grenades
-Rockets
-Ballista
-Chainsaw
-Ice Bomb
-Shield Dash
-Sentinel Hammer

For some of these you will almost ALWAYS have access to at least one of these during the campaign

You should never have to resort to regular punching

[formal scaffold]

idk im just listing all the things that regular punching can do

but it is not very useful

[granite lichen]

demonic slayer vs ember thoughts?

[azure oriole]

Demonic has an ugly color scheme, the colors of green and red clash in a bad way. Ember is much cleaner in this regard

[young mango]

Regular punching is good for punch swapping, that’s all

[turbid jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[young mango]

As a single enemy yes, but fighting 7 buffed marauders is insane

[azure oriole]

hello everyone

[young mango]

Easier said than done but yes

I did manage to beat that aforementioned arena but it was fairly difficult

[vagrant tendon]

I need some help on ultra nightmare any tips?( I’m on switch and I suck

[broken forum]

No more music?

[young mango]

If you want another song recommendation I’d say “trunk fulla amps” by self

[sacred dirge]

Trunk full of imps ami right

[broken forum]

[azure oriole]

I just bought the season pass today and I managed to make it through the first level. Now I’m stuck trying to beat the spirit buffed marauder. How do I beat that prick?

[formal scaffold]

doom eternals plasma gun looks much better than 2016s plasma gun

the plasma gun in 2016 looks like a normal rifle and looks less powrful

but the eternal one looks more like the classics and looks much more powerful and looks like an actual plasma weapon

[sacred dirge]

It was the first version of the plasma rifle so it makes sense. It was designed to be the standard military rifle to replace the heavy rifle. Love eternals classic design more also

[young mango]

Screenshot? There shouldn’t be a spirit buffed marauder in the first level of anything

Ohhh nvm I read that wrong

[turbid jetty]

probably cause 2016's was based somewhat off of 3's

[young mango]

You said you already made it through the first level, so you should be in the blood swamps I’m assuming

[azure oriole]

They're basically the exact same.tbh

[formal scaffold]

how get keenguy skin

[robust swallow]

Bro I just creative quickswapping binds for controller and it's so awesome

#screenshots

[sacred dirge]

Shoot dpad in? Have to admit I've never seen that

[sacred dirge]

Very unique binds

[robust swallow]

Thanks, it's effective, for me at least, as long as you get used to it

[sacred dirge]

I defintley dig it

[robust swallow]

I did try cramming everything down to the buttons that aren't really used much to the more useful buttons

And since I need to shoot without taking my fingers off the right bumper I mapped shoot to press down Left stick Down

These binds utilize movement and Quickswap with no weapon wheel

Cause 1. I suck and 2. It's easier for me

[sacred dirge]

Hahahaha that's fair

[kindred moth]

weapon wheel mid fr

[azure oriole]

Weapon wheel is all I have....

[strange gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939379379283304470/1090398249438945341/971407904542429285.gif

[reef urchin]

Cant play game ffs whenever I choose my save file and then press space after it’s done loading game freezes and shuts off by itself -.-

I re installed it and it’s doing that

Idk if it’s discord that’s causing it cause when I was in call when it did that I also got dc from discord call lol

[lyric lodge]

maybe

try playing it again without discord?

[reef urchin]

Basically call ended and restarted by itself

[reef urchin]

Ye that’s what I’ll do when I’m home but if it still crashes idk what could be tbh

And if it doesn’t that’s very bad that discord is affecting game

[lyric lodge]

yeah you should try first

[reef urchin]

Hope it works

[tight bloom]

Gm gc

[grizzled path]

ITS FOUR WDYM GOOD MORNING

[lyric lodge]

DO YOU NOT GET TIMEZONES WDYM

[grizzled path]

I don't get timezones

it's four in the morning and that's all it will ever be

[lyric lodge]

its 4 in the fucking afternoon for me rn

[grizzled path]

liar it couldn't possibly be
timezones are a lie

[tropic mesa]

fr

[strange gale]

canadian 😨

[grizzled path]

you are living in the past.. or the future..?

[tropic mesa]

im everywhere

[lyric lodge]

its 30/3 i think we're living in the same day given its 4am for you

[grizzled path]

well

have fun being in the future

[lyric lodge]

its fun

[azure oriole]

I love how eternal tied 2016 to the original games :]

[slow sigil]

"so uhhh doomguy from the og just randomly became the slayer, the end"

[pallid coral]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-simon-cowell-canadas-got-talent-astonishing-incredible-gif-25777873

[rain sun]

I'd say that Doom 2016 ties all the games together nicely, especially with the multiverses which I really, really like, Eternal doesn't really do it unfortunately when looking better at it (even cutting Doom 3 out of the main timeline), it just kind of barely mentions that Doom Slayer fought the Icon Of Sin at the end of Doom 2 from time to time

[slow sigil]

2016 had multiverse?

[rain sun]

the whole Doom lore has a multiverse

[slow sigil]

Only properly established on eternal though....

[delicate lintel]

do i get something if i 100% a campaign?

[slow sigil]

You got it 100%ed

[pallid coral]

that's what im going for, you only get the achievements thats pretty much it

over 3 hours in and im only on the third mission

[pallid coral]

just FYI if you are going for 100% on the second mission when you use the key on the first slayer gate you encounter, after clearing the enemies remember to collect the key after you TP out of the slayer gate. At the end of mission 2 i was figuring out what i missed for 8 mins and it turns out i had to go back for it. Thank god for fast travel

there is a really good guide on steam if your thinking about it

[lyric lodge]

imo it simplifies the character slightly maybe

[sacred dirge]

There's no mention of multiverse in 2016

[pseudo flower]

Davoth pulling up in that gundam suit gives serious “not in the face man please!” Vibes

[rain sun]

FUCKING RIGHT 🤣

[rain sun]

you're prob talking about the Arcvile, if that's the case then just shoot at him 😀 👍

[lyric lodge]

shoot at it untill it dies

or get around the shield or smth just know where he spawns,he's usually at the top parts in taras nabad

[azure oriole]

Ice bomb and 2 lockon bursts will fuck him up ez

[lyric lodge]

ofc the lock on bursts

then do what the teriyaki guy said

[azure oriole]

(Provided that you've fully upgraded your ice bomb, that is)

[reef urchin]

Rip and tear!!!!!

[robust swallow]

I find quick swapping easier on console

Especially combos

[jolly kernel]

this game’s art style is just really good

it’s like Classic Doom but HD

[robust swallow]

That's what the devs were going for

[young mango]

There is in eternal, stating that doomguy is a universal constant

[sacred dirge]

Yes

[pseudo flower]

Which is one of the many reasons why i don’t like to dark lord boss fight and how ID treated him

[rain sun]

same, honestly I would've prob hated it more if they were able to make him turn into a dragon like they planned on

[robust swallow]

You don't like to dark boss fight? Hmm

[midnight sparrow]

I mean I don’t blame them it sucks. Long, tedious, oversized Marauder but bad

It’s a boring fight as well

[azure oriole]

I said this many times but relegating the dark lord to DLC is outrageous. Needed a whole game to himself.

[reef urchin]

ok game is unplayable for me great

i tried re installing and verifying files and the game keeps freezing and then shutting off by itself

[rain sun]

eh, not really, TAG 1 and 2 had a good build up, it's just that he sucks

[reef urchin]

whenever i choose my save and then press space to continue after it loads that happens

not even making new save works

this has never happened before so i dont get it

[rain sun]

try deleting everything related to game and installing it again?

[reef urchin]

already did that lol

[rain sun]

guess I can't help much then, sorry, you can try reporting it, might help a bit?

[reef urchin]

im gonna see if its settings i guess

ill put them on default

still nothing

[rain sun]

damn

[violet dome]

the game still crash on amd cards?

[keen rune]

i just beat DOOM eternal in extra life mode with 38 lives left

[grizzled cedar]

Wat is the next doom after eternel

[pearl lotus]

None

For now

[grizzled cedar]

Nooooooooo

Way

[pearl lotus]

Fr fr

Been 3 years

Since we had a new entry

[grizzled cedar]

Vous parlez français

Vat entry

[pearl lotus]

In the story of doom

[grizzled cedar]

Do you no wen der will be à New 1

[pearl lotus]

Nope

[grizzled cedar]

Wat is doom the asent goods 1 end 2

[pearl lotus]

It was a dlc

But it put the slayer in a coffin

So we might get a reboot

[slender wigeon]

Do ya'll watch horde gaming at all? This might interest you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsijQuLUBy4&ab_channel=HordeModeGaming

[jolly kernel]

hear me out:

Prowlers are Nightmare Imps except they can teleport

[pseudo flower]

I do blame them

The dark lord needed a whole game not a DLC

[azure oriole]

Hi guys

[jaunty vapor]

Nah. Shoulda had the player play AS the Dark Lord and have them start with minimal (but different?) equipment, regaining his power for 2, maybe 3 missions. Then have 2-3 Slayer missions culminating in a final boss of Davoth.

If he really was "uS iN tHeIr WoRlD" then we shoulda seen him literally doing the same shit. And playing AS him would have achieved that in spades.

[midnight sparrow]

That’s what I’m saying! If he was part of a full game maybe they could have thought up a different fighting style for him and made it actually interesting and fun

[azure oriole]

Has anyone got tips for the dual marauders in TAG pt 1?

[rain sun]

that's even less Doom, considering that he's the bad guy, and Doom's been about fighting demons

[azure oriole]

I'm terrible at the game all of a sudden 😂

[jaunty vapor]

I think they could have spun it as Dark Lord fighting the demons to gain control of them.

Plus it's not like the story we have now isnt full of holes

[rain sun]

I guess, but Doom's protagonist have always been people who are trying to save humanity

even the ROE guy, who's more of an anti-hero

[jaunty vapor]

Eeeh I mean same could be said for Gears of War, but the RAAM DLC was really good at showcasing how horrific and terrifying the villains could.be before giving back control to the player as the heroes

[pseudo flower]

I don’t know why they thought having him in a dlc was a good idea

[rain sun]

actually, killing demons for powers would be a reference to him, but then again no one really likes him so....

[rain sun]

same, Betruger was a part of the base game AND the DLC, while Eternal's base game has one villain, while TAG had another. Honestly TAG might as well be it's own game rather than a DLC

[robust swallow]

Console Quick Swapping is super slow

[azure oriole]

Dude we're talking the DARK LORD of doom

"not really" get real

[rain sun]

lmao, but srsly what I meant is that Davoth sucks

[azure oriole]

Yeah he does, because he's relegated to DLC

[rain sun]

apart from the no yelling (which is apparently not him? or is it him? eh, forgot and honestly, idc at this point), he's only in TAG, which is why I made the joke saying that TAG should've been it's own game rather than a DLC

[strange gale]

it'd be the #1 way to establish his power in this context though

[supple belfry]

i beat super gore nest master level on ultra nightmare
im in crippling pain

[strange gale]

"he's you but in their world" and the other codex vague-isms do nothing to make him a believable threat

even just a cutscene of him doing the same shit as the player would've done so much to give the player any sense of tangible stakes

as is, he's just some guy who says some flowery words and then you fight for the "fate of the universe" or whatever

even with all the lore context and reddit updoot bait cutscenes in mind, it all ends up coming off so lame

[rain sun]

indeed, honestly my biggest gripe with Eternal's lore is that it's all just written out, tell don't show

[simple beacon]

ive completed doom eternal and want to get ancient gods dlc 1 and 2

[jaunty vapor]

"You cannot hurt me in this holy place"
...
"Alright I'm gonna fuck off now to somewhere where you CAN hurt me because THAT makes sense peace out dawg"

[slow sigil]

Davoth probably thinking doomguy will somehow make it not holy anymore so best to get the life support armour

[sacred dirge]

Hahaha legit weak

[rocky cove]

the gladiator killed me

in my un run feels super bad man

[azure oriole]

second phase kinda tricky

[young mango]

Probably hubris

[robust swallow]

I might be actually the fastest quick switched on console

[still timber]

Hey guys! Back with another update on my doom eternal "get better" campaign. I just beat urdak and kicked the Kahn in her whiney angelic butt. Beat her first try too! I'm really getting better at this. I'm into final sin now to end this! Wish me luck!

[lyric lodge]

Lmao

[lyric lodge]

I wish you luck on your journey to beat the icon of sin in his buff demonic butt!

[robust swallow]

People who hate on Experienced players: I hate people who quick swap

Also the game: Tip: Quick Swap

[lyric lodge]

People who admire experienced players : I can't fucking quickswap

[robust swallow]

I don't understand how some players are experienced and cannot Quickswap

[lyric lodge]

Idk man being experienced doesn't always mean knowing the techniques and shit maybe they played the game for awhile but they still just suck at it yknow?

[robust swallow]

Somehowb

[lyric lodge]

Yeah maybe they just didn't focus on improving that much with crazy techniques and shit but just played the game for the sake of enjoyment

[robust swallow]

Quick Swapping is easy on Controller all you need to do is plink between weapons or set binds to keys you don't wanna use initially

Keyboard and mouse is hard for me

[rocky cove]

feels so bad die in the second half of the campaign

feels like lost time fck

[sacred dirge]

Always a lesson learned

[lyric lodge]

Nah its not easy at all unless you're tryna be a bit slow

Lightspeed quickswapping is incredibly hard on console where as on pc you really just click some keys

[wide marsh]

what is the most tedious part of the world spear

[lyric lodge]

But honestly if you think quickswapping on console is easy good for you man cuz I'm struggling so hard rn

[robust swallow]

Wdym?

What're you struggling with?

[lyric lodge]

Quickswapping

Ok srs tho the way I'm struggling with quickswapping is ofc the weapon wheel

[robust swallow]

Yeah, but, how?

[robust swallow]

I hardly use the weapon wheel, I used the weapon wheel first, then I used plinking, lastly I used binds

You should try plinking if you're a beginner

[lyric lodge]

My reaction time's a bit slow and it's kinda hard for me to quickswap at lightspeed. But yes, I am able to quickswap decently fast enough

[lyric lodge]

Honestly for me, binds are kinda hard cuz there isn't the most space. Yeah I could use the d-pad but when I do that my left thumb would be off the joystick hence I wouldn't be able to move anymore which ofc slows down a lot of movement

[jaunty vapor]

Part of it is FPS based so there's a limit/it'll be harder on Xbox One vs. Xbox One X vs. PC

[lyric lodge]

Never heard of plinking tbh

[lyric lodge]

And especially the nintendo switch with a capped 30fps compared to almost anything else which is 60

[robust swallow]

There are some people who are extremely fast with controller it looks like theyre having seizures

[jaunty vapor]

as far as how to generally do it on console...

Set your weapon wheel delay to as low as it can
Set important weapons to binds (pb, rocket, ssg, and ballista mainly), probably Dpad.

Swap to one, then the second, then just use "weapon wheel" to quick swap by tapping weapon wheel.

It'll never be as good as PC swaps but generally that's "the way to quick swap on console"

[lyric lodge]

Crazy

[lyric lodge]

Yeah that's pretty much it but when I put it to 70 it could take a few tries to tap the weapon wheel button without bringing the wheel up

[robust swallow]

Plinking is when you hold down LT and tap RT first, then RB and keep doing it, I recommend the Heavy Cannon, Super shotgun, then move onto other things.
If you still don't get it let me know

[lyric lodge]

Plus, like i said, using the dpad isn't the most comfortable for me when I can't move

[lyric lodge]

LT is for the weapon mod, RT is for the shoot and RB is for the weapon wheel right? Aka L2 R2 R1?

[robust swallow]

Yep, but you tap RT then RB and keep repeating

It will cycle through weapons, whilst you shoot

[lyric lodge]

Oh yeah I think saw that before but ig I might have to up my weapon wheel delay a bit since I can't seem to just tap it

Would it be better if I just held down RT?

[robust swallow]

Nope, your second weapon in line won't fire

Takes practice and getting used to

Do it without enemies, then cycle through weapons, repeat.

[lyric lodge]

Hmm but I remember hearing that holding down the RT button while using the weapon wheel still made the next weapon fire

Or is that because of the weapon wheel

[robust swallow]

Not for me at least, whenever I hold down RT and switch weapons my next weapon wouldn't fire, this me having to use the plinking method so I could fire consistently

You shouldn't open the weapon wheel unless you are trying to switch to another weapon out of the two you want to quick swap with

[jaunty vapor]

It won't for Lock-on

If you have Lock-on and are swapping from pb -> lock-on, lock-on won't allow you to fire when holding the button down.

base rockets/remote det will let you

[lyric lodge]

Honestly don't remember anyone doing a pb rocket combo with lock on but thanks for the info

[jaunty vapor]

Most speedrunners do

[lyric lodge]

So that means when I want to use lock on, I release the button after the pb, and then hold it down again for the lock on right?

[robust swallow]

Plinking basics

Hold down LEFT Trigger

To repeat
Tap Right trigger first
Then Right bumper after

Repeating this will be very helpful

[jaunty vapor]

Remote is garbage

that was supposed to send earlier lol

[lyric lodge]

Lmao always the slow internet

[lyric lodge]

Aight thanks for that

[robust swallow]

Np, make sure you start slowly to get the hang of it, use your index finger and middle finger on both the RT and RB to do it fast enough

[lyric lodge]

Aight

[upper hazel]

Hello guys!

[lyric lodge]

ay

[flat trail]

doom bad

[lyric lodge]

k

[upper hazel]

if you think so, then why are you here?

[flat trail]

because i spent hundreds of hours grinding the game

[upper hazel]

Cool

[flat trail]

mid

[lyric lodge]

why would you grind a game if you think its bad

[flat trail]

sarcasm

[upper hazel]

heh,really

[flat trail]

im surprised its not been heard of

[lyric lodge]

very noticeable

[flat trail]

ok

[upper hazel]

Have you played doom 2&

?

[flat trail]

ive only played 1, 16, and eternal

[lyric lodge]

what doom is bro even talking about anyway

[agile idol]

Yo I just started getting into doom as a whole maybe two days ago and tried my hand at doom eternal any tips on getting through the campaign

[flat trail]

wait no ive played doom 2 aswsll

[lyric lodge]

uh shoot at things untill they die

ok no srs tho there's a lot of things to learn in eternal

[agile idol]

Solid advise m8 I will take that into account

[flat trail]

what chat are you in

[lyric lodge]

but i think you should mainly focus on quickswapping and the combos that it has

[agile idol]

I can tell 😓

[agile idol]

Quick swapping?

[flat trail]

dont over bear it, ull learn a lot of things overtime, and if ubtry to learn everything at once it can be a lot

[lyric lodge]

its like quickly switching between weapons to form a "combo"

[hidden delta]

Yea i can't do that

[agile idol]

I see

[hidden delta]

But im on console

[flat trail]

its good to set binds or iirc theres a button thay swaps to ur last gun so u can spam, having jump to downwheel or upwheel allows for some easy bunny hopping to

[lyric lodge]

quickswapping is even worse when youre on the fucking switch

[agile idol]

I was asking because I started eternal on Tuesday on my Xbox and I’ve wrestled myself down to the super gore nest atm

[flat trail]

u can still quick swap on console, its just a lil harder, ive not played on control tho so i cant give advice

[upper hazel]

I`m play doom on nintendo switch

[lyric lodge]

if you wanna learn a bit about quickswapping you could scroll up a bit

[flat trail]

fire ass level

[hidden delta]

Chad

[agile idol]

🫡

Tbh doom brought out a side of me I didn’t know I had

[flat trail]

real

[lyric lodge]

yeah,a sad one

[flat trail]

i saw the ultra nightmare mode and for like 2 months i had no life

[agile idol]

I play games more than once bumping up the difficulty level each play through. I can’t wait to get to ultra nightmare 😅

[lyric lodge]

here's a very crucial tip for ultra nightmare :

dont die

[flat trail]

i did ultra violence and nightmare in 13 hours or so then spent the next 200 only playing on UN

[agile idol]

Gasp

How could I have been so foolish

[lyric lodge]

i havent been playing eternal recently

despite only being on uv rn plus hmp on tag1

[flat trail]

its been a bit since I've played, after i beat everything on UN i stopped but i wanna play through again i just wont remember any of my skips or how id clean rooms and how id upgrade stuff

[agile idol]

I haven’t tried battle mode yet, how is it?

[lyric lodge]

please look at the whole convo if you wanna get some shit for quickswapping

[lyric lodge]

it's considered ok by many

[upper hazel]

I played ancient gods 1 and 2, but didn't play doom eternal

isn't that the same thing?🤔

[flat trail]

same game, theres base campaign, then tag1 and tag2 as dlc

[lyric lodge]

tag1 is harder than the campaign

[flat trail]

tag 1 was so fun

[lyric lodge]

by like,a good amount with the insane amount of marauders

[flat trail]

tag 2 was a complete joke🥱

[lyric lodge]

and fucking tyrants too good god i cant imagine playing it on uv let alone nightmare

[flat trail]

i first tried blood swamps and whatever the final level was called first try on un

uac took idk like 3-4 attempts

[azure oriole]

Weenier

Butt nugget

Fart face

[flat trail]

real

[lyric lodge]

the fuck

[formal scaffold]

chaingun turret mod thing + freeze + flame belch + ice + grenade + that one ballista grenade mod thing i forgor
and repeat is good against them

[upper hazel]

LOL, Really

[lyric lodge]

i legit just use the chaingun shield and freeze them and launch grenades plus blood punch lmao

[azure oriole]

Cheese noodle

[flat trail]

ssg + rpg spam = 😎

or ssg + pb

[lyric lodge]

or pb + rocket

[flat trail]

real

did that one guy here ever finish gUNless

[lyric lodge]

i aint doing that bro specially on a switch

[flat trail]

lpl

[lyric lodge]

tbh i don think he did since it cant reach the icon of sin

[flat trail]

he found away

[lyric lodge]

damn how

[flat trail]

MKAIN thats his name

idk ud have to talk to him

[upper hazel]

Hey, What device do you play doom on?

[flat trail]

pc

[upper hazel]

And how many fps?

[flat trail]

well before on my 2060 like idk 60-120 on my rx6800 xt like 300-400

[upper hazel]

on the nintendo switch 30 fps XD

[flat trail]

ik

my friend nutmilk beat un and stuff on the switch

[lyric lodge]

thats amazing man

[flat trail]

its pretty nice

[lyric lodge]

"pretty nice" nah dude thats fucking godlike

[flat trail]

lol wasnt godlike when my bank account lost 700$

[lyric lodge]

lmao ofc the bank account

[flat trail]

what

[upper hazel]

@flat trail and @lyric lodge what is the difference between doom eternal and Doom Eternal Deluxe Edition ?

[flat trail]

idk

[young mango]

If you buy the dlc, quite literally nothing

[upper hazel]

ty

[young mango]

But it’s cheaper to buy deluxe edition if you want the dlc

[lyric lodge]

Tag1 harder Tag2 some new mechanics

That's it, no other shit

[upper hazel]

I started playing doom in 2020

my first doom was 2016

[azure oriole]

tbh i don't see the appeal of eternal as much

It's so mid compared to all the others in the series tbh

[upper hazel]

@azure oriole Do you play anything else besides doom?

[azure oriole]

Yes

[upper hazel]

If it's not a secret, can you list these games? At least one

hehe

[azure oriole]

I like resident evil

and mgs

and some souls games

and devil may cry too

[upper hazel]

wow

[upper hazel]

I also play in re

[lyric lodge]

i started playing doom this year

[lyric lodge]

well its your opinion, lots of other ppl love it and i can see why(being one of them myself)

[azure oriole]

True but it was just poorly made

[lyric lodge]

yeah i think i found it apparently you have to dash and launch a grenade plus use the crucible to attack him

[lyric lodge]

honestly, i thought it was great. the amount of techniques and strats the game has plus all the shit you need to master to really become a pro is a lot more complex than 2016(even tho i didnt play 2016)

[azure oriole]

2016 was lowkey mid. Eternal is def better

[lyric lodge]

yeah i heard a good amount of cristiscm for 2016 even in this server

i still dont see why eternal could be considered mid tho considering the fast paced movement of the game

[azure oriole]

I just don't like the combat system

basically an ammo farm that doesn't end atp

[lyric lodge]

i wouldnt say ammo farm since the time for a chainsaw refuel is decently low but other than the chainsaw there are other ways to get ammo that ig ultimately makes it easier

[azure oriole]

The platforming is also just really corny imo

The guns are also just too boring to play around with

[lyric lodge]

ok ngl tho the platforming on the first playthrough killed my happiness

[azure oriole]

Exactly

It's so baseline and uninspired and its flat out ass

[lyric lodge]

i wouldnt say they're boring with the insane amount of combos you can do with quickswapping, plus that heavy ass sound design is great with also a touch of mods and masteries, really wouldnt say theyre boring

[slow sigil]

I mean what is the alternative, boring hallways?

[lyric lodge]

maybe better parkour somehow?

[azure oriole]

Pick your poison 🤷‍♀️ I just think that if you add platforming to a game it should at least be good lol

And also i hate the lack of non shooting weapons

[slow sigil]

Meh it's fine as just a break up between fights
Not good, but fine

[lyric lodge]

what the fuck does that even mean theres a whole chainsaw,crucible,3 grenades,flame belch tf bro

[young mango]

I’ve been playing ultra nightmare these past few hours and the closest I’ve been to death was a singular lost soul that brought me to 5 hp

[azure oriole]

Let me rephrase. Lack of variety in non shooting weapons

The weapons in general in that game are just so boring

[lyric lodge]

a break up between fights is actually kinda nice given the insantiy of the arenas but like ya said,its just fine cuz the actual platforming itself is just ok

[lyric lodge]

omg not the lost souls

[azure oriole]

It's passable at best

[slow sigil]

Thus it's fine

[young mango]

It’s so funny because it’s literally the weakest thing in the game

[azure oriole]

Yeah but its the reason it sucks

[lyric lodge]

lost souls be wilding when they're with pain elementals

[azure oriole]

I don't want passable lol i want fun at the least

[slow sigil]

Even if the parkour was closer to what you do in arenas it would still be eh overall and the only thing with like kinda debt is meathook and bboosts

[lyric lodge]

i mean...thats kind of fair? the crucible and chainsaw are similiar in a way they one shot enemies,just ofc slightly different ways of doing that. the ice grenade and frag grenade are,self explanatory but i dont think they're that similiar. the flame belch is well,just its own thing unless you count the meathook flame thing

[slow sigil]

I mean you can count nades and fb as "shooting" if you squint your eyes

[lyric lodge]

oh yeah the meathook parkour in tag2. honestly it seems fun and it wouldve been great if it was in the main campaign or tag1

[slow sigil]

Aslomg as they made that it doesnt make you autojump

[lyric lodge]

fair

[slow sigil]

Actually now that i think about it, lack of "non shooting weapons" is kinda extremely nitpicky ngl

[strange gale]

if you want dmc, go play dmc

[azure oriole]

Never did I once say "Doom sucks i would rather play dmc"

[lyric lodge]

well the ssg and cs are ofc just shotguns with the only thing differentiating them are the mods. heavy cannon and plasma do have their differences with ofc mods,but plasma is def faster plus the whole plasma shields thing. now ballista and rocket launcher, they are similiar but i'd say still quite different. and bfg is bfg so is unmakyr

[lyric lodge]

honestly yeah ig it can be considered nitpicky cuz its not like every fps game needs a shit variety of non shooting weapons like melee and grenades

[slow sigil]

But you see, eternal didnt think of 17 new weapons never thought of by the entire industry so it sucks

[lyric lodge]

and for me personally eternal did enough to add "non shooting weapons"

[strange gale]

immediately getting defensive over something that wasn't even implied says a lot about you

what i'm saying is, trying to fit in-depth melee combat into an already bloated game is a terrible idea

[lyric lodge]

the variety included was quite enough for me

[slow sigil]

(Ignore dblade, ssg grapple hook and bloodpunch plz)

[lyric lodge]

in-depth melee combat for a fast paced intensive shooter like doom eternal would barely even work and would just eat up money in developing that imo

[strange gale]

that too, i'm really not sure it'd even be good

[slow sigil]

Considering yhe weaponmod balance it'll be 50/50

Bp is good, and hammer is overtuned

[lyric lodge]

the fact that they even went out of their way to make the punch literally just useless

[slow sigil]

Because it's boring and dumb to just basic melee everything if ammo management is a bigger focus and BP is a thing

[lyric lodge]

honestly if you think about it, if someone is able to make a challenge without using guns, that just says that there's enough "non shooting weapons"

[slow sigil]

Not really

[azure oriole]

Of course I'm going to get defensive if some dumb shit is spewed my way. Saying that a game should a have a more fleshed out melee system isn't implying that it should be like a hack and slash game like devil may cry. I'm not asking for some complex system or anything. I'm just saying what's already given is boring. And you were most definitely implying that I was saying that doom should be like dmc or that dmc is better because I was literally the only person to bring up doom.

[slow sigil]

That just means someome is able to get through the game with the most basic things of the game

[lyric lodge]

yeah pretty much. the focus of eternal is nowhere near some basic melee thing as they def focused more on those ideas

[upper hazel]

Hello everybody! Did I miss something?

[lyric lodge]

nah you didnt miss anything this is just a normal convo in the doom server

[bronze estuary]

I wouldn't call the BP useless. Being able to instantly destroy Cyber Mancubus armour is seriously useful, though to be fair it doesn't have much usage out of that.

[upper hazel]

okey)

[lyric lodge]

oh i didnt mean the bp was useless i meant the normal punch

[bronze estuary]

ah

[alpine plaza]

well you joined today so you missed like 5 years of conversation

[bronze estuary]

yeah normal punch is useless lol

[slow sigil]

Cyber mancubi dont actually have armour, BP just does more damage

[lyric lodge]

but yeah the BP is insanely useful and works as a way to implement some melee into the game imo

[upper hazel]

heh

@lyric lodge

[lyric lodge]

well it has the usage for the khan makyr,and generally just dealing good dmg

[upper hazel]

"
why is it so dark💀"

[lyric lodge]

lmao the 15 minute dountdown of #videos fr

[upper hazel]

THIS IS NINTENDO SWITCH

[slow sigil]

Forced usage is a bad usage

[lyric lodge]

kinda fair

[upper hazel]

My eyes exploded when I started playing

[slow sigil]

It's like saying mbeam is "usable" because the game holds a glock to your face to make you use it

[lyric lodge]

i dont know if its that dark lmao

[upper hazel]

tbh idk

[lyric lodge]

are you able to up the brightness on the switch version?

[upper hazel]

the main thing is that it passed

[upper hazel]

stop

[strange gale]

i've been thinking about this for a couple months now, what could even be added to this game's melee combat that wouldn't just be for show?

[lyric lodge]

that was a legit question im sorry☠️

[upper hazel]

yes

[lyric lodge]

well hey you cant up the fov too😀

[slow sigil]

Maybe this like cool weapon you could charge up if you kill demons in specific wa- wait a second

[upper hazel]

there, before entering the game for the first time, they write select brightness

[lyric lodge]

oh yeah that

really wished you could change it mid game

[upper hazel]

I probably chose a small brightness

bruh☠️

[strange gale]

you could add parrying to the base punch, hell, just take all the parry interactions from ultrakill and put them here

[upper hazel]

glask

[lyric lodge]

possibly the armblade if they're able to find some way

[upper hazel]

are you an admin? or no?

[lyric lodge]

read the roles yo

[upper hazel]

okey

[lyric lodge]

he's a sentinel which means he's a booster

[upper hazel]

Yes, I realized it just now

[strange gale]

you could make context-specific melee anims too, maybe jumping and then meleeing while aiming at a mid-air demon would cause some kind of lunge utilizing the arm blade, and then that'd have some kind of cool interaction

[lyric lodge]

sounds great but the meathook immediately gets rid of that kind of

[strange gale]

you could just put all this shit in the game and it'd probably work well and be fun enough, but tell me this, @azure oriole

you already think doom eternal is mid, would some vague "fleshing out" of the melee system really be enough to make the game enjoyable for you?

[azure oriole]

Make better platforming along with better melee and it would be top tier

[strange gale]

that's all it takes to go from "mid" to "top tier"?

[upper hazel]

I'll agree with you

[lyric lodge]

the platforming is kinda a fair point with it being a bit boring and just overall mid

[azure oriole]

Those are the 2 biggest problems and they are both the biggest contributors to why the game isn't enjoyable for me

So yes

[lyric lodge]

the melee one tho is not a fair point at all. how the fuck does melee make a game go from mid to top tier?

[strange gale]

you said you don't enjoy the gunplay either, i don't believe it'd be fun for you even in that case

[azure oriole]

I like melee

[azure oriole]

Couldnt care less if melee is fun

[lyric lodge]

yeah but the BP exists plus you dont need overly complex melee to make a game fun

the games you like have good melee prob because they actually focused on it abit but eternal doesnt at all but that doesnt mean its a mid game

[strange gale]

to me it sounds like you want to play some entirely different game

[bronze estuary]

Overly high amounts of melee would draw focus away from other features of the game. The amount of melee in Eternal is fine as it is.

[upper hazel]

in close combat, I think you can add something, this will be a plus

[azure oriole]

Better melee and better platforming does not more entirely different game

[strange gale]

this game is already bloated. the combat works fine enough but there's so much shit you could remove without making the game feel any different

[lyric lodge]

yes absolutely. the focus of eternal isnt melee so why would you expect it to be some overly complex and top tier melee?

[slow sigil]

But you hate the literal central part of the game, if the melee was just a bit better it wont fix the game for you

[lyric lodge]

yeah the game is bloated with its guns,movement that stuff. the addition of melee would be pointless and just wouldnt affect the game

[azure oriole]

I never said I hate the guns i just found them a little lack luster and a little boring

[slow sigil]

Eh main point still applies

[azure oriole]

not really

[lyric lodge]

a "little"

[bronze estuary]

lol

[strange gale]

"so boring" to "a little boring"

you aren't even consistent with your own opinions

[bronze estuary]

this guy wants to play an entire different franchise, like c'mon

[azure oriole]

Yeah weapons includes all weapons

Not just guns

Guns are a bit of a bore but its whatever

[strange gale]

the core of the game is shooting, the melee being out of consideration can't possibly have that much of an effect

[lyric lodge]

the fucking weapons in the game is meant to be guns

[azure oriole]

There aren't only guns though

[bronze estuary]

DOOM isn't meant to be melee? Not sure how you haven't picked up on this yet.

[lyric lodge]

the fucking weapons that are focused in the game are guns, it doesnt mean that guns are the only fucking weapons

[slow sigil]

Doesnt mean it can't be a bit better tbf

[lyric lodge]

i mean they even have grenades and the BP, thats enough non guns man

[azure oriole]

boring ass non guns

[slow sigil]

Bp isnt boring

[lyric lodge]

at least there's shit for the fact that its not even its main focus

[bronze estuary]

BP is actually fun, even if I suck ass at fully using it LMAO

[rain sun]

this honestly sounds more like an opinion rather than a actual criticism

[lyric lodge]

yeah exactly

[azure oriole]

I literally said it was an opinion like an hour again

not to mention the MULTIPLE times i have said imo

[bronze estuary]

Then why are you criticizing the guns?

[lyric lodge]

yeah but its not like theres a point in this "cristiscm" if the main focus of the game wasnt even melee

[strange gale]

you fundamentally don't like doom eternal, a first person shooter, because it doesn't suit your preference for melee based combat, yet it'd become "top tier" for you if instead of the half-assed melee system it had now, it had a still half-assed second game tacked onto it?

[rain sun]

oh, yeah sorry then, I wasn't paying attention to the full conversation (trying to escape FNAF again)

[azure oriole]

reworking 2 things isn't a second game

That's wild that u said that

[slow sigil]

But even if reworked the core gameplay still bores you

[strange gale]

what it sounds like to me is you want a separate game tacked onto what's already there

[bronze estuary]

Reworking melee into becoming the primary combat system makes it a different game, yes.

[slow sigil]

The only way to "save" the game according to you is to literally make it a melee game

Because if melee was just more fleshed out it still wouldnt replace gunplay, which you didnt like

[lyric lodge]

aight ok i respect your opinion you want more and better melee but youre acting like its supposed to be a main focus just cuz you want it. i dont mind you not liking the game, but the shit youre talking about is just stupid

[azure oriole]

When did I ever say making it into the primary combat system??? Are you even reading???? I said there's a lack of variety in melee to begin with.

I never said at any point that I want the game to be melee focused

[bronze estuary]

20 minutes ago "the guns are boring"

[azure oriole]

and if it was a melee game it wouldn't be a doom game. And the gunplay in this game is boring. Making it a mid doom game.

[strange gale]

because the implication is that a "rework", a rework being relatively minor changes, to just the melee system would bring the entire game from mid to top tier for you, that rework would have to be pretty fucking hefty

[azure oriole]

That doesn't mean that I want it to be the primary combat system

[lyric lodge]

you just said that better melee and parkour would make the game top tier

[azure oriole]

Me when I take arguments out of context and twist them into a narrative that I want the other person to push just to "own" them

[slow sigil]

No but tom you see, giving me a third bloodpunch i can do whilst in the air and looking down will make the game 10 times better

[azure oriole]

Yeah

Because those are my two main problems in the game

I want a rework but that would literally remove the point of the game

and the combat system in place is already boring. Therefore i think it is mid

[strange gale]

the lack of internal logic here is insane

[azure oriole]

It isn't that hard to understand imo.

[lyric lodge]

yeah my 2 braincells are slowly dying i cant let that happen if they're the only ones left so peace

[bronze estuary]

Therefore the rework is incompatible. You don't like gunplay in video games. Simple as that.

[slow sigil]

The game is mid
Reworking a side mechanic into still a side mechanic will somehow make it a top game
That just doesnt make sense

Even IF melee had a grand overhaul.... you would still think the game is mid

[azure oriole]

No it does. It would be a good game but still not a good doom game

[slow sigil]

"Not a good doom game" mfers when i show them doom RPG:

[flat trail]

uwu

[lyric lodge]

doom rpg fans finna get yo ass

[lyric lodge]

yeah it doesnt make no shit sense. its a fucking side mechanic why would making it better make the game top tier instead of mid??

[strange gale]

you don't enjoy the core, the foundation of the game, that being shooting. yet you say reworking things that are propped up by that, and significantly lower in priority, would make it "top tier" for you. this is an insane take

[bronze estuary]

IMO, Eternal isn't a good DOOM game regardless. It's a fantastic game, but not a fantastic DOOM game. You wanna play a good DOOM game? Play the classics.

[azure oriole]

Time to break ig. I have never played a doom game once in my life and I have seen like maybe 20 min of gameplay a year ago. I joined to start a debate for fun (it worked I had fun). I literally got all my arguments from like 2 reddit posts. No joke

[lyric lodge]

ok have to admit, doom eternal is def a very odd one out

[bronze estuary]

what substance are you smoking

[lyric lodge]

but i dont fucking care cuz its good

[slow sigil]

Explains the inconherency, reddit takes

[azure oriole]

Trueee

[lyric lodge]

ah yes, what a way to escape from an argument

[azure oriole]

I could literally link you the exact post i found this shit from

[azure oriole]

I am not joking check both my steam accounts i don't own a single doom game

[lunar jay]

other people's opinions are worthless. Don't share one unless you got your own.

[lyric lodge]

bro tryna entertain us and keep the server alive tho☠️

[azure oriole]

I like being the devils advocate tho its lowkey fun

[bronze estuary]

checked his steam, can confirm

[lunar jay]

there is 0 basis on he said she said. I could tell you the cannon shoots dildos, doesn't mean it does.

[lyric lodge]

nah i thank you for giving me smth to do

[strange gale]

there was no "devil's advocate here" if all you did was copy + paste reddit takes

[lyric lodge]

and i fucking thank you for killing my last 2 remaining braincells

[slow sigil]

Can't even troll properly smh

[strange gale]

being the devil's advocate requires thinking of your own

[azure oriole]

Nah i came up with some of my own shit too

[lyric lodge]

no wonder some of it was fucking stupid

[azure oriole]

I built off the bad takes and made my own

[slow sigil]

Here in b4 i bring up that chainsaw in eternal is a fairly boring and mid mechanic

[lunar jay]

trash way to troll

[bronze estuary]

@azure oriole Thank you for letting one of your 2 braincells fall into 3rd place, we all love you for it.

[lyric lodge]

NO STOP I DONT HAVE ANY MORE BRAINCELLS-

[slow sigil]

[lunar jay]

I had 9 braincells left, and reading aidens excuse killed 8 of them.

[azure oriole]

Should I buy doom eternal though my friends like it

[lyric lodge]

you should tbh

[slow sigil]

It's a great game
Boring melee though

[azure oriole]

I like fps games and i enjoyed ultrakill so

[lunar jay]

refrain from any fps shooter.

[lyric lodge]

bro is actually the opposite of everything he said☠️

[azure oriole]

Bro i have like 2k hours on cs spread across my accounts ofc i am

[lyric lodge]

doom eternal like i said is fast paced and has a lot of strats and techniques so get it if you like that

[bronze estuary]

💀

[lunar jay]

when did you start playing

[lyric lodge]

aint caring about that steam account

[azure oriole]

A long ass time ago on my brothers account sometime in 2014

[lunar jay]

If you beat me in a minecraft bow 1v1 then you're allowed to play fps games

otherwise, you have to uninstall every last one.

[slow sigil]

"Lots of strats" just wait till you see me spam pb combos against everything that movds and nothing else

[lyric lodge]

what the fuck did this argument turn into☠️

[lunar jay]

minecraft

[azure oriole]

I wouldn't say this is an argument anymore

[lunar jay]

its a challenge

[bronze estuary]

SR50 past the linedef and run to the teleporter

[azure oriole]

Bro i do not like minecraft pvp that much

[lyric lodge]

ok besides that tho if you wanna you are able to do other combos plus all that BATS tech and stuff

[lunar jay]

then get good

[lyric lodge]

"turn into"

[lunar jay]

yk what1v1 me in tarkov

[azure oriole]

Don't have it

[lunar jay]

trash

[bronze estuary]

IRL 1v1, fight to the death, whoever wins plays Eternal

[lunar jay]

bet

[azure oriole]

My friends all tell me tarkov sucks and I watched a video on how full of hackers it is

[flat trail]

it does suck

[azure oriole]

Friends that say its sucks have like 2k hours in it btw

[lyric lodge]

whoever loses gets buried 20 feet underground

[lunar jay]

The hackers are bad too though lmfao

[azure oriole]

exactly the typa shit im talkin bout

[slow sigil]

Isnt BATS impractical to do with human hands

[strange gale]

not really no

[lunar jay]

tark is great, people starting out in the beginning of wipe had some terrible luck because scavs ere cranked to 11, but that's mostly fixed now

[lyric lodge]

the fuck does that mean💀

[azure oriole]

I liked dark and darker when it was in playtest

[lunar jay]

too bad it's in a lawsuit

[azure oriole]

Eh it'll win

[lyric lodge]

i'll remember this

[azure oriole]

There's way too much evidence showing that they didn't copy p3

[azure oriole]

If I'm wrong I have to buy doom eternal and beat ultra nightmare or whatever its called

[slow sigil]

Ah thought it was when it first came to light, oh well

[strange gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/1084004364135432302/hand2.mp4

[slow sigil]

Don't have to do UN, it's a bit of a joke difficulty

[strange gale]

i will say, i didn't exactly use a keyboard here, there's this thing called azeron which is a hand-shaped keypad

[lyric lodge]

you aint beating that if its your first time yo

[azure oriole]

Nah i'll do it bc im him

[slow sigil]

Well impractical to do in an arena, i shouldve been clearer

[lyric lodge]

switch could never😀

[strange gale]

if this did more damage (it's only ~35% more than pb rocket but exponentially harder) i'm sure more people would use it in real combat

[slow sigil]

35% isnt a low number though?

[lyric lodge]

"exponentially harder" tho

[strange gale]

it replaces pb with ballista, that's so much ammo gone from what you could instead use for bboosts and double dblades

[lyric lodge]

honestly dont see much point in it when it really just kills things faster while being so much harder to do

[strange gale]

double dblade does at best like 6000 damage instantly

[lyric lodge]

did not know it did that much holy

[strange gale]

4800 if you charge it up fully, +25% damage w/ ice bomb

way bigger aoe, way easier to do

[lyric lodge]

still a fucking lot

[strange gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689356001383940097/1014670396546617404/165.mp4

3 or so seconds to kill

[lyric lodge]

tyrants are a fucking joke holy shit

wanna ask tho, that's possible to do in an arena right?

[strange gale]

tbf that was with the ai frozen, but yes

[lyric lodge]

wait i just realized the shotgun that looks like some doom 3 mod or am i tripping

[strange gale]

it's the ultrakill shotgun

[lyric lodge]

heh i could ice bomb it

[azure oriole]

ok so i just watched a vid on eternals platforming

and that is like the one take I will stand by and i haven't even played the game

[lyric lodge]

oh yes the platforming is mid

[azure oriole]

it does not look fun to platform in eternal

[lyric lodge]

it works as a break for the intense combat in theory but the actual execution of it was just boring

[azure oriole]

Yeah it kinda looks a bit uninspired

but yeah like the other person said its preferable to just a boring hallway

[azure oriole]

what the hell it takes like 9 rockets + some precision bolts to kill that guy

[lyric lodge]

i actually played the game and it was just boring no matter what, doesnt matter if it was hard, easy whatever it was just mid

[strange gale]

the one fun part is getting good enough at the platforming to get it out of the way asap

[lyric lodge]

ah yes when the only fun part about something is getting rid of it

those ballista skips are insane tho

[lyric lodge]

it was that fast because of dblade

[azure oriole]

I never realized how much damage the destroyer blade does

[lyric lodge]

it does so much i didnt realize too

[azure oriole]

haha in my playthrough I never used the mod
but next time I play I am using that everywhere

it is destructive

[lyric lodge]

that 4800 dmg is way to easy to get

[azure oriole]

Jesus 4800

[strange gale]

just about half of a tyrant's health

[strange gale]

you can really see the frames here, ripped it from gfycat since i can't embed this otherwise https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1091282605636321350/AcclaimedAliveBengaltiger-size_restricted.gif

[azure oriole]

This is like the jump skip in doom 2016

I don't remember what it's called but it requires high fps if im correct

[slow sigil]

you literally just floated up there

[strange gale]

oh this is from kald on the mdsr server

[lyric lodge]

that looks fun

[strange gale]

yeah, the argent tower railboost

[lyric lodge]

something i'll never have😀

[strange gale]

skips basically the whole level

[azure oriole]

yep

[upper hazel]

@strange gale

[upper hazel]

Is it on a PC?

[lyric lodge]

wait yo how did you do that lock on burst so fast

plus its a combat shotgun right?

[upper hazel]

The graphics are fucked up there

[strange gale]

this is on pc yeah, not sure anything but the bhop would work on console even at 120fps

something as simple as the hell on earth box punch is already ridiculously picky, you use a different lineup if your fps is higher than 170

[lyric lodge]

then....then what the fuck is 30? will this shit work on a fucking 30 fps? oh my god

[upper hazel]

Right now I'm going to shoot some moment on Nintendo and show you

[strange gale]

pb rocket into instantly holding mod button after the rocket comes out, this is called a slob. the shotgun model replaces the ssg.

[lyric lodge]

ah aight

[upper hazel]

I think it's very difficult to do this on a Nintendo switch

[azure oriole]

It's like DKSMS

[lyric lodge]

everything is yo

still havent mastered the pb rocket yet so i might not be able to do this typa slob

[strange gale]

kinda (not really), with dksms you hold mod button before even swapping to gauss cannon

[lyric lodge]

speaking of which if i hold the mod button then switch to a hc, will it still do the pb?

[upper hazel]

I do not know, maybe you can switch to nintendo quickly, I just play shit

[strange gale]

do you mean holding mod button while having a different weapon out, then switching to hc? in that case yes

[lyric lodge]

oh nice

[strange gale]

the game remembers you holding the button across weapon swaps

[lyric lodge]

idk man 30fps could hinger a lot of that speed specially when it hingers meathook so much

[strange gale]

n i don't know that the distinction between "fast" and "slow" state weapons even exists in d16

[azure oriole]

what's that

[strange gale]

it's kind of a can of worms, but for example, fast state is why pb rocket swaps are fast while ballista rocket swaps are slow

[upper hazel]

@strange gale

[azure oriole]

Oh I see
I've realized that while playing that switching between pb and rl is slower than switching between pb and ballista

[lyric lodge]

interesting

[strange gale]

firing precision bolt and then swapping to something else makes the game think the other weapon should act like heavy cannon, so for a short time you're able to swap off of that other weapon much faster than you would be usually

that's as simple as i can put it

[azure oriole]

Ah I get it

[strange gale]

and in comparison, in doom 2016 (almost) any weapon swap combination you can come up with is already fast

[upper hazel]

follow this link just compare 30 and 60 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktFio0x3rSU

there are a lot of differences, aren't there?

[slow sigil]

holy shit in one of them the door is closed

[upper hazel]

it opens in 5 seconds

[upper hazel]

do you mean the ending?

[slow sigil]

`yes

it's crazy that simple FPS make such a big difference in level progression

[upper hazel]

yes, it opens in 5-7 seconds

[upper hazel]

yeah

[azure oriole]

30 fps has a real disadvantage damn

[lyric lodge]

my poor switch

[azure oriole]

Switch? Sheeesh must be hard to play on that

[strange gale]

you're right https://youtu.be/JpAD6fZn3uw?t=34

[lyric lodge]

who wouldve thought

[upper hazel]

by the way, if you didn't know the Nintendo switch (which has 30 fps) costs $ 389 to $518

[azure oriole]

I'd rather get a half decent gaming pc with that money so I can enjoy de more

[lyric lodge]

this is why the steam deck is better

[upper hazel]

But I really wanted to try nintendo

[azure oriole]

Only downside is you need to have a beefy pc

[slow sigil]

isnt 2016 insanely optimized?

[upper hazel]

wth, bro

[slow sigil]

just play on lowest graphic settings with 1080p

[azure oriole]

for a gtx 1650 gpu crossing even 120 with the lowest possible graphics setting is barely possible

although I do agree it's insanely optimized

[upper hazel]

question to everyone, how did you find out about this group?

from game?

[lyric lodge]

i found it from doom eternal

[azure oriole]

the server you mean?

[upper hazel]

i`m too

[strange gale]

i have messages in here from almost 6 years ago (old account) but i think deternal reminded me this exists

[upper hazel]

wow

[upper hazel]

yeAh

[azure oriole]

I found this because i wanted to play some d2016 snapmaps and thought maybe the discord server might have some creators with cool maps

[upper hazel]

Cool

Okay I'll go

@everyone Goodbye! See you later

[lyric lodge]

Bye

[azure oriole]

I can imagine there will be a new doom game. I would buy it

[azure oriole]

Same

[azure oriole]

I'm finaly on the boss fight. It's hard as hell

[azure oriole]

I killed the bos

[lyric lodge]

Niceee

[azure oriole]

Ima play the flc now. I have both bc I bought delux

Dlc*

[dusty heart]

#screenshots message can anyone help? I cant find collectible

[wary badger]

Is 622.2 hours of doom eternal worthy for ultra nightmare ?

[slow sigil]

no you need 7000 hours or you'll die to a sledgehammer

[wary badger]

[lyric lodge]

nah you'll die to an imp

[wary badger]

doom eternal and genshin impact are the best dopamine booster

for me

also uh subnautica below zero but mostly doom eternal gives me dophamine

@lyric lodge have you mastered some of the quick switching combo

[lyric lodge]

not at all, but i do know some info on it

as i got a lot of help from the server

[wise kiln]

Its another monke...

[lyric lodge]

yes yes

[light pasture]

So slayer can't feel anything right

[tight bloom]

Well I finally beat tag2

[reef urchin]

ok doom eternal is unplayable for me great
i tried re installing and verifying files and the game keeps freezing and then shutting off by itself whenever i choose my save and then press space to continue after it loads that happens
not even making new save works
this has never happened before so i dont get it i putted settings on default aswell
still nothing

[alpine hazel]

hi! lore freak here
he can very much feel pain- he has pain sounds in eternal and breaths heavily when he's at low health

[robust swallow]

I wanna be a doom eternal only streamer but people barely watch doom content now unless it's about a new game or feature

[sacred dirge]

Yes the life of s doomtuber is a slow and long process but the fans you get are great

[visual harness]

Great i just beat TAG 2 on nightmare

[green phoenix]

Well doom eternal’s whole appeal came from the overused memes

Also considering how mediocre the dlcs were…it kinda just killed off doom eternal faster than 2016

[upper hazel]

Hello guys!

[rain sun]

well, once one of many things Doom was known for was for it's mods, D2016 and Eternal don't have a proper mod support as the previous games did. So that could've also killed it off. No custom maps/weapons/ext, not as much reason to revisit it

[jaunty vapor]

Well theres also speedrunning. Plenty of 100%, or restricted any% people still get traffic

[robust swallow]

There is but plenty of YouTubers don't really seem to have fun much

I mean fanbases *

The audience

[jaunty vapor]

I mean if you're looking to stream to become famous/get notoriety you're doing it wrong anyways.

You should stream what you want for the enjoyment/fun of streaming. From there things will fall into place, people will see you're genuine etc. Whether you just want to replay the game casually or do any other number of things.

I know I assumed the "become famous" part, may have been an exaggeration on my part. But legitimately you should just stream what you want for fun and don't focus on the numbers too much

[robust swallow]

No, Doom only streamer, for fun

[rain sun]

I'd also recommend avoiding any trends, cuz if people only come for that well, the fanbase isn't gonna last a month

[weak saffron]

currently attempting to do nightmare mode

[robust swallow]

Me attempting to find new tech

[robust swallow]

Dude plinking feels slower than having binds to switch weapons

Or is that just me?

I think reverse plinking is faster than normal plinking

[strange gale]

the input buffer is a bit different on controller so that might be real

[robust swallow]

Yep, okay so reverse plinking is faster and more efficient than regular plinking

It's way easier and the Heavy Cannon shoots when it's supposed to

But for me to reverse plink I just swap my RT with my RB

Yeah wtf I'm surprised, it's amazing it's way faster to Quickswap with reverse plink

I'm amazed 💀

Controller is so Good

But the thing is it breaks sometimes, the heavy Cannon will scope in twice really fast

I'm never normal plinking again.

[sacred dirge]

You're not getting any input lag?

[robust swallow]

I always have my controller plugged

[sacred dirge]

My man

[boreal jewel]

So I'm about halfway through my first Nightmare run. Playing on console. What are your guys thoughts on saving throw? I've been using it pretty much this whole time, but I'm concerned that I might be cultivating bad habits. Or at least not at improving as quickly.

Or should I not worry about it?

[fiery cloud]

what is saving throw?

[boreal jewel]

Saving Throw is the rune that prevents you from dying once per life.

[azure oriole]

alright so i need help with something guys

its in the super gore nest master level

so I'm currently playing it on ultra violence and I'm stuck on one part

[supple belfry]

to get the golden combat shotgun i already did SGN ML on ultra nightmare, extra life mode nightmare and normal nightmare so im at 9/10 challenges rn

do i gotta beat it on nightmare classic mode or can it be on any

[young mango]

Any difficulty

[trim spade]

@lyric lodge I finished TAG2 on UN !!

And I only got angwy once

For a short amount of time

[young mango]

What part

[azure oriole]

i beat it nvm

[robust swallow]

I keep quick switching so fast on console my game crashes.

What the fuck

[sacred dirge]

That doesn't make sense

Are you playing on ps4 base ?

[robust swallow]

No like literally, It only happens when I quick swap, I play on Xbox One Slim

[modest copper]

Happy doomsday

[jolly kernel]

the Hell Knight and Baron Of Hell are like Mario and Luigi. they were originally the same enemy with different colors before they were later turned into different enemies with unique designs and attacks

[upper sky]

I got a new peas plant and it is named after Samuel Hayden

[robust swallow]

IT'S true it does so when I switch weapons too fast it's nuts

[broken forum]

The fuck is an Xbox slim

[young mango]

Not really, it stems from classic doom with the hell knight in doom 2 acting like a smaller iteration of the baron of hell so instead of a miniboss you’d just be facing a tough enemy

Calling them the “same enemy” is kind of a disservice, I’d like to think of the hell knight as the barons younger brother

[midnight sparrow]

I mean there just a retextured Baron with half the health. There pretty much the same enemy. Glad the Doom 3 design stuck for future games I think it looks a lot better

[young mango]

Yea but they do have slightly different stats like slower fireballs and such

[lapis saddle]

Mario and Luigi aren’t pallete swaps either anymore. But like the baron and hell knight, they did start out that way

[young mango]

I know it’s a retexture but come on the gap between doom 1 and 2 was less than a year they cut corners and it was charming

I LOVE the concept of having the same enemy but less health

[lapis saddle]

I don’t mean that as a criticism

[sacred dirge]

I'm not not believing just neat

[lapis saddle]

The Hell Knight beginning life as a mini baron was neat

[midnight sparrow]

really like the theory that the Gladiator in Eternal is the last remaining old Hell Knight

[lapis saddle]

Same

[sacred dirge]

Absolutely

[fiery jolt]

Doom ultra nightmare is a pain

[mystic vault]

thats the entire reason it exists yeah

[robust swallow]

Does anyone know how to record videos on Xbox and export them ?

[young mango]

The gladiator boss fight had me sweating

[indigo halo]

so i forgot to touch the first support rune in uac atlantica (replaying the dlc on nightmare) and after teleporting back there it's invisible and untouchable looool

ah damn i can't upload images

[broken forum]

Xbox button scroll to share press the one that says like save last x seconds/minutes

Then if you have the Xbox app it will be there and you can copy link or save the video

[robust swallow]

Got it, thank you

[fiery jolt]

Same my opinion the only actually hard levels and thing about ultra nightmare that i see is
1 the first 4 missions are the hardest due to new game so of course low equipment and few abilitys and the last 2 missions are pretty easy because you would have most gear then at the start and 3 after mission 2 the demons are easy to kill because most of the soildera and imps well most weaker demons and gather up and pile close enough where its just fire grenade launcher into middle and they go kaboom and plus they all just pile up so try and work on sentinal crystals health so for more chances to survive getting surrounded

[robust swallow]

Plinking (Controller)—For beginners

Plinking is tapping two buttons, with two fingers simultaneously to create a reflex. This comes in handy for DOOM Eternal if you want to quick switch without using binds.

The first step of plinking is to hold down

**Make sure you're holding your Heavy Cannon out, and that your secondary (next previous) is a Rocket Launcher without Lock on, (Remote Detonation is acceptable)**

LT (Left trigger)

Then, tap RB (Right bumper)

This will switch your weapons from previous to current.

But you'll need to do it once only this time.

Then tap RT (Right trigger)

Do all this, while holding down LT (Left trigger)

Tap RB again, then Tap RT, and keep doing this. This is called, Quickswitching for controller.

Make sure your Weapon wheel delay is nowhere near below 100. As you can accidentally open the weapon wheel. I recommend using: 140-160

Reverse plinking

Is when you switch your weapon (RB) then shoot, (RT) instead of vise versa. Reverse plinking is more effective, efficient and easier than plinking, however if you're already used to plinking normally, go into the controller settings, choose custom and swap both RT and RB actions.

It's also recommended to practice letting go of LT (Left trigger) if you're not using your Heavy Cannon

[azure oriole]

Hello

[frigid pumice]

Spam

Well not spam

Copypasta

[still timber]

and with that... The icon of sin is dead!

Hey guys I'm back with my next update in my doom eternal "get better" saga. I'm back with an update that the main campaign is finished! The icon of sin Is dead, and al that is left is to finish off two last milestones. See you guys in tag 1!

[young mango]

I’m assuming the milestones you have not completed are the “can’t perfect perfection” and “escaped the madness”

[still timber]

I beat "can't perfect perfection" a while ago

I actually have three that I need to complete.
"Escaped the madness"
"Polybolos"
"Gunpletionist"
I did get the last two because the game bugged out on my first play through and it didn't count the times I mastered the ballista

[young mango]

Kudos, I’ve beaten UN a while ago and still haven’t touched that one cuz it sounds tedious rather than fun

[azure oriole]

How many times have you heard Samuel Hayden saying something along the lines of 'Quick! The longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger he will become!'

Any tips for TAG pt 1?

[still timber]

Yeah Ive got a few

Use the destroyer blade better

You will not regret it

[robust swallow]

Got a vid of me QS on console #videos

It's not too fast but I'm working on it 😔

[azure oriole]

the guy annoyed the hell outta me

[lyric lodge]

AMAZING!!!

[uncut bear]

final arena in gore nest master level is rough
I was able to saved up my bfg and crucible charges for tyrants + archviles but i keep dying afterwards, gotta not skimp on the second bfg shot

[lyric lodge]

I'm not even sure if I'll ever play a master level

Wait wait I have a question what if I have both the steam version and the switch version for the game, will it transfer from the switch to steam?

[uncut bear]

I don't believe so, unless you can transfer saves with bethesda accounts

[robust swallow]

Have you got the hang of plinking yet!

?*

[lyric lodge]

Haven't even played eternal yet since lmao

I'll try

[robust swallow]

Kk

[alpine plaza]

guys i working on a minecrat classic doomguy skin

the catch is im basing it off the og doom cover

[uncut bear]

ive been stuck on this arena for 40 minutes

devs really just put 6 tyrants :)

[alpine plaza]

ahh sgn ml

what difficulty you in?

[granite lichen]

If I family share my game can someone get me the gold weapon and slayer skins

[alpine plaza]

thats quite a request

[azure oriole]

Gold skins aren't worth it bud, believe that

[uncut bear]

nightmare

[alpine plaza]

thats tough

i once attempted it but rage quitted at the part where you fight 2 tyrants in an enclosed space

[uncut bear]

Just got it, actually
I used the unmakyr as I had 90 bfg ammo in the arena, was able to take down 2 tyrants with it and survived the archies

[alpine plaza]

managed to beat it in ultraviolence once tho

[uncut bear]

oh nice

[alpine plaza]

do you have crucible charges?

you couldve used them to kill some tyrants

[lyric lodge]

There was a combo for that yesterday lemme find it

[azure oriole]

Caps at 60 doesn't it? Or am I remembering wrong

Wait nevermind

[lyric lodge]

Here's the insane combo. Make sure to prioritise db cuz it does 4800 fucking damage

[uncut bear]

Finally

that level took me an hour and I still have to do UN
i had like 20 deaths

[lyric lodge]

Damn surprised the unmakyr was ae to save someone

[azure oriole]

Must be opposite day

[uncut bear]

BFG tickles tyrants

[lyric lodge]

Then you'd be retrying 20 times on un💀

[uncut bear]

you need like three shots to put them down, unmakyr has that crazy damage

[lyric lodge]

@uncut bear

[uncut bear]

I can quickswitch, but not like that

[lyric lodge]

Eh you could practise

[uncut bear]

I don't want carpel tunnel from melee modswap cancels

[lyric lodge]

But generally just remember to use the dblade alot

[alpine plaza]

you can always do the ol' ssg balista

[lyric lodge]

Dblade more important fr

[alpine plaza]

ehh it has its uses

[lyric lodge]

You could do the dblade, and then just use a pb ballista combo or rocket yknow?