doom-eternal

[burnt moss]

Up to what?

[jaunty wigeon]

bethesda can you like not email me about doom eternal cosmetics

[tepid wasp]

up to being a quick-swapping killer of many men

more directed to your second comment

[unreal pumice]

i finally have Xbox live again, I can return to kickassery in multiplayer

[burnt moss]

Perhaps it was misleading. I’m just trying to learn to play without gyro now.

[unreal pumice]

What I found most effective for killing the dark lord fast was dazing him with the super shotgun, quick switching to minigun BEFORE extending the daze with the hammer, and then using the mobile turret minigun for as much time as possible

as opposed to extending the dazing with the hammer and then wasting time quick switching

[mossy nova]

i recommend ssg + balista + ssg + hammer + turret chaingun repeat until the end but use the bfg on the super horde

[azure oriole]

Dark lord more like dead lord

[hybrid fractal]

OK CAN SOMEONE PLS HELP
Got doom eternal yesterday on ps4, got up to the two priests or smth and the game says content still pending install, please try again later. I come back today, still not working. I delete and reinstall the game. Still not working. I finish an entire new file up to the same spot, same error. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[crystal tapir]

Ok there is a way to fix this

So what you wanna do is hover over the game on ps4 home press options then press information and look at download status it should tell you how long it'll take once its finished it should say completed hope this helped

[spark egret]

Air Control rune can affect bunny hopping ?

[low badge]

ok I'm new to doom we'll not new new but I'm pretty sure I'm close to completing the game but what's the fastest way to beating a archville and marauder

eternal obviously^

[azure oriole]

Archville: BFG or LOB 2x + PB (Or just some bullets to GK him)
Marauder: BFG or PB + Grenade + LOB 2x.

[flint flame]

It affects the momentum you get if you hold a movement key while in the air

[low badge]

what's an LOB sorry like I said I'm new

[flint flame]

If you’re doing crazy meathooks and stuff, I’d suggest taking AC off

[azure oriole]

LOB: Lock on Burst, Rocket Lancher's mod.
PB: Precision Bolt, Heavy Cannon's mod.
GK: Glory kill

[low badge]

ah ok

thank you

[azure oriole]

Archville is easy to kill with ballista and super shotgun combo

Also with the BFG

[azure oriole]

Also to beat Marauder with a BFG you need to falter him first with PB or something, and then shoot a BFG to him before he recovers.

Marauder is immune to BFG

[azure oriole]

No he's not lmao

He is if you dont falter him

[flint flame]

I’d recommend this trick for the secret encounter in taras nabad

[flint flame]

That’s literally what he just explained lmao

[azure oriole]

Just shoot at it until its dead, pro tip

[azure oriole]

Yeah, it's just saves time.

What is the benefit of doing secret encounters what do they even do

[azure oriole]

1 weapon points.

[low badge]

give you weapon points

[azure oriole]

I know the ones on Tag 1 give skins but whats the purpose of the others

Weapon points kinda useless for all that work ngl

Real chads do it without weapon points

[low badge]

fr😂

[azure oriole]

Alright, you see the Marauder in front of your eyes, look at the back, shoot a BFG, and then Marauder can't block the Tendrils.

congrats just wasted a bfg ammo to kill a marauder 💀

just kill it with ballista and super shotgun combo not that hard

Who cares as long there's a BFG ammo lying around.

[azure oriole]

I'd rather go with PB + GL + LOB.

Pb is kinda meh

But not a bad idea

Well it can falter Marauder anyways, so it's good for a start.

Why not use a shotgun for more damage instead of the PB

Could be more useful

[azure oriole]

LOB exists.

[low badge]

also how close am I to beating the game I'm at idk what the mission is called but there's like 2 parts then after the second you go up to a thing in the sky I forgot what it's called but you get to the beam going up to it you have to destroy the chains to release the two titans

[azure oriole]

There are 2 levels @low badge

[azure oriole]

It doesn't matter which weapon you start as long it can instantly falter Marauder, launch GL, and then LOB him 2x.

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

Your on the hell soul factory thing level, and then theres 2 more and it ends

[flint flame]

Pb is the easiest method to enable faster swaps

[azure oriole]

it does, the stronger the weapon the more damage it does and the faster the enemy dies

[azure oriole]

Holy shit you probably never tried LOB on Marauder.

[flint flame]

Other methods include using automatic guns until their rate of fire normalizes

[mossy nova]

i once made a hell knight stuck at a wall

[azure oriole]

And how do you know

[flint flame]

Sleeper combo

[mossy nova]

in a position

[azure oriole]

Judging by using SSG and shit, instead of accepting PB.

[low badge]

oh one last question how do you get the rifle in the base

that like big one

[flint flame]

BFG?

[azure oriole]

Theres alot of big guns lmao which one

[low badge]

no I have that

[flint flame]

Oh unmaykr

[low badge]

it's at the home base like not that far from the classic suit from doom

[mossy nova]

the unmaykr/unmaker ?

[azure oriole]

Complete slayer gates

And you will get keys to unlock it

[flint flame]

Anyways, ssg ballista is mad slow

[azure oriole]

But it works fine

[flint flame]

And using it on the marauder makes the fight even slower

[flint flame]

Good luck using it on a possessed demon

[azure oriole]

i use different combos on different enemys

just because i like ssg + ballista doesnt mean i use it all the time

[flint flame]

The marauder inherently slows the games pacing to a halt, so why not just BFG it and get past the hassle

[azure oriole]

Waste of bfg ammo

You can just spend some more time and kill it

[low badge]

what was the hardest part on your guys first run? just so I can get prepared

[azure oriole]

• There's 6 of them, the Slayer gates is located in: Exultia > Cultist Base > Super Gore Nest > ARC Complex > Mars Core > Taras Nabad.

[mossy nova]

fun fact shoot a bfg shot in the other direction it will kill the marauder lmao

[azure oriole]

Yeah.

[flint flame]

Dude I just said the marauder is a waste of time fighting it

[mossy nova]

so its not a waste

[azure oriole]

marauder itself is a waste 💀

[mossy nova]

and you can stun the marauder then use bfg

[mossy nova]

it even works on on 5 marauders

which exist in the dlc

https://youtu.be/5uCAQUw4m1I

[azure oriole]

on harder difficultys probably hell on earth because of minimal guns

[low badge]

I mean I'm playing just on like I think the second difficulty because I knew how hard doom was before

mainly because I'm not good at fps games but I'm getting better because I've learned more tactics while playing doom eternal even like it said I would which is why doom is my favorite fps by far

[azure oriole]

then i dont think anything will be hard youll probably beat the hardest stuff by trying it 2-3 times

[mossy nova]

waff your acting like a game journalist no offence

[azure oriole]

Cultist Base.

[azure oriole]

ok

dude its literally the 2nd easiest difficulty and they beated every level and they are at the soul factory

[azure oriole]

You'll get better slowly friend, just practice, learn techs and more. It'll be helpful later.

[azure oriole]

every hard level is done at this point

[azure oriole]

Urdak and Final Sin.

[mossy nova]

i like taras nabad

[azure oriole]

same the design looks cool

[azure oriole]

Final Sin have so many Heavies + Super heavies, hence why I struggled so much before.

[low badge]

ik my ruins I use is that blood punch gives health, the final blow one where it slows down when you're about to die, and I don't remember the last one but I remember it benefits

[azure oriole]

morning, doom chat

[mossy nova]

i dont like the 2 cyber tyrants and many cyber mancubusy after the buff totem fight in urdak in the last fights

[azure oriole]

Morning too (Though it's noon in my timezone)

[azure oriole]

Damn Cyber Tyrant

[proven swift]

Good morning young slayer

[mossy nova]

i like calling cyber demons/tyrants cyber tyrants

[azure oriole]

Ahhh, understandable, though you can confuse someone with it until you explains it.

i slept 13 hours wahts wrong with me...

[low badge]

oh wait another heay or super heavy whatever it is I forgot I haven't played since the other day but I think it's the doom hunter it's that one that's on the drone what's the easiest way to kill that though I kill them pretty fast now

[azure oriole]

A good rune tree probably, do you want me to tell what's the best rune tree and the best Sentinel Crystals upgrade to start until the end?

[mossy nova]

i once reached 666 gb storage (i got 800 Gb)

while downloading doom vfr

[strange gale]

😱

[low badge]

I've got almost all the sentinel crystals maxed out all but a full one and half of one

[azure oriole]

Yeah you definitely missed one in ARC Complex.

[low badge]

damn

[azure oriole]

same... I learned it position

[mossy nova]

in the secret room

[azure oriole]

its so well hidden

[azure oriole]

It's hidden so yeah, that's why you don't even know there's an literal Sentinel Crystal on ARC Complex.

[mossy nova]

it also has a codex

[mossy nova]

up stairs

[azure oriole]

You also should try to learn where's all the collectibles located in the next save, it'll help you even better.

[mossy nova]

i always go for 100% except some in the dlc like encounters

[low badge]

yeah my automap like shows everything now so ill go back and figure it out

[azure oriole]

Item Finder is really good if you're new and didn't know where secret collectibles located.

[low badge]

wait also when you complete it I think I literally already know the answer but is there like a mission select

[hybrid fractal]

Theres no bar, its finished but not working

[low badge]

so I can go back

[azure oriole]

Yeah, you can.

[low badge]

ok

[azure oriole]

Return to the menu, go to the save file, mission select, select the mission you want to play to find hidden collectibles.

[low badge]

ok

[azure oriole]

On Ultra Nightmare though, you're prohibited.

[low badge]

makes sense

[azure oriole]

Once you complete a mission, there's no turning back on UN.

[low badge]

also could add me back so I can ask you via dm because you seem to know a lot

[azure oriole]

Sure thing.

[low badge]

thank you

also so if I just start playing and have questions later on

[mossy nova]

fun fact: i always master the ssg when i got it

[azure oriole]

Same.

[mossy nova]

via saving weapon points

[azure oriole]

Do you instantly try to master it?

[mossy nova]

yes

i even use the revenent to start it

[azure oriole]

Same, though if we're not taking excuses to skip, Axe falling room filled with Mech Zombies, etc is a problem.

Also that room where there's Gargoyles and Tentacles.

[mossy nova]

yes its a gold mind

[azure oriole]

I seriously want to skip trying to grind SSG mastery on this room, too risky.

[low badge]

i have both the mods for the shotgun mastered, the missile mod for the rifle mastered, and I think the heat wave for the plasma rifle mastered

[mossy nova]

i use it but i run out ammo so i use the tentacles

[low badge]

tentacles?

[azure oriole]

Yeah, tentacles.

[low badge]

wait what😂

[azure oriole]

Don't get your mind into negative, Tentacles really exists on Doom Eternal.

[low badge]

well yeah but that sounds cool

[azure oriole]

First apperance on Hell On Earth if you still remember.

[azure oriole]

And oh god the purple goo place where there's like 5 tentacles in Exultia

[azure oriole]

If you can't skip this, you'll have a hard time.

[slow sigil]

tenties

[low badge]

my memory is so bad the only tentacles I remember is the ones that pop out of the holes that stab you and the ones you have to destroy I think it's in the nest mission

[mossy nova]

dont remind me about that

[azure oriole]

At least you remember what is a Tentacle in DE.

[azure oriole]

the skull

[low badge]

idk how big this opinion is but am I the only one that thinks like whiplashes and the mancubus are just annoying at certain points

[mossy nova]

i hate gargoyles i hate there acid attack they are annoying

[low badge]

that too

special if you're trying to fight a heavy or super-heavy

[mossy nova]

mancubusys are thicc

[low badge]

fr

[mossy nova]

i like fighting super heavys

[slow sigil]

Mancubbi arent annoying at all
Whiplashes are only annoying with a skill issue

[mossy nova]

barons cyber tyrants marauders except cyber mancubusy

[azure oriole]

Most annoying thing about Gargoyles is once he can slash you.

[mossy nova]

yes

[low badge]

that too

[mossy nova]

and archvilles

[low badge]

agreed

[mossy nova]

i use pb rocket and i aim it at the floor for maximum funny thing

[low badge]

I'd say one of the main reasons I die is from getting stuck on demons when I'm trying to boost through the hordes of them to get a glory kill for health

[mossy nova]

if i even get stuck once in a fight i know i will die there

[low badge]

yeah also what do y'all call the cacodemon and the pain element do you just call them that or something else because I call them uncooked meatball and cooked meatball

idk if that's weird its just easier for me to remember

[azure oriole]

Oh my, a Cacodemon, a precious species of Hell.
Also fuck Pain Elemental.

I like cacos until they harm me until I almost die.

[low badge]

fr I just call them that because I used to because they look like that in the original doom because they look like one and I like them too but they get a little annoying at some points

[vast flax]

Caco and spicy caco

I’ve been playing the ancient gots part 1 and the goddam lone shield boi is the first enemy to kill me 😂😂 tyrants, marauders and spirits no problem

Gots* LUL

[azure oriole]

im horrible at dodging mancubbi projectiles

[low badge]

felt that

[azure oriole]

i wish there was a guide for dodging cuz i always take damage no matter how fast i am

[slow sigil]

Pressing shift before inpact helps

Strafing unpredictably and staying in the air too

Ans then the damage you do takr youcan heal

[azure oriole]

wdym

[slow sigil]

Dodge rather if on console, mb

[azure oriole]

when i try strafing the projectiles that failed to predict where i was going to go all goes straight into my face

[slow sigil]

Dash

[slow sigil]

Then try to keep up with them and dont run into projectiles

[mossy nova]

shield

[slow sigil]

And if you're in the air too it's also easier

[azure oriole]

i think i use my dash too much and stay too much in the air so it cant recharge and i find myself impossible to dodge stuff mid air

[azure oriole]

no

[slow sigil]

You can't "stay too much" in the air in eternal

[mossy nova]

bro why

[slow sigil]

At worst you gotta tap the ground

[azure oriole]

get out of jail free card

[mossy nova]

you can use the shield to bash and cause damage

[azure oriole]

alright

[slow sigil]

Dodging in 3 dimensions is wayyy easier then dodging in just 2 or maybe 1

[strange gale]

you've got bboosts and gking in the air to restore dash there, so you're really not out of options at all

[azure oriole]

true also would playing the main campaign with no health/armor upgrades help for dodging?

[eager helm]

BROOO the gladiator boss fight looks like those hell knights in doom 2!

Very cool boss fight. I enjoyed the fight as well but the waves part were annoying

[azure oriole]

chaingun shield

[eager helm]

I'm playing on the difficulty before night mare so essentially medium, and I still find the game extremely hard at times but having a blast with this game

[azure oriole]

i dont see how you are having fun from tormeting yourself

its necessary for harder levels

[eager helm]

So I've learned this thing called weapon switching and it looks useful. What combo would you recommend for immediate damage? Like when I'm up close at those hell knights and brain spider things? Oh and those guys who have cannons kn their arms that you can break

[azure oriole]

for hellknights just use a single lock on to kill them, for arachnatrons and mancubbi u can ssg + precision bolt + ssg at point blank to kill them

u can do that on controller too

there are some buttons that have no purpose

i personally removed mod swap, grenade swap and crucible buttons so i can quickswap more freely

u can get away without the mod swap buttons but yeah not having freeze sucks, i personally never use the crucible so it doesnt matter to me

[slow sigil]

They literally are not except for freeze bombs

If you know what you are doing modswapping is genuinly not needed

the crucible is very boring anyways

[uncut ledge]

i would say freeze bombs are more better then explosive bombs

[slow sigil]

hammer but that is only in tag2

[azure oriole]

https://www.twitch.tv/rr4dddddd0/clip/MiniatureInspiringBisonCharlietheUnicorn-06V8Y4Orjn4SFPG6 this is what i can do atm, i still need to learn how to do that with lock on mod

u should

[uncut ledge]

me too and freeze bombs are more useful

[azure oriole]

i find grenades more reliable

what are u doing without the combat shotgun 💀

[slow sigil]

freeze bombs are wayy stronger then frags, but frags are a bit more fun since they falter an enemy instead of just giving you a completely free kill

i assume you mean the boss? cause if that's for regular fights thats a complete waste of time

[azure oriole]

sticky bombs are very good for fodder cleanups and weak points, and full auto is trash for doom hunter sledge

[slow sigil]

wait they meant FA, not stickies ew

yeah, the first doom hunters of the game need some planning
same thing as any other one, ssg and BP

[azure oriole]

should i start a nightmare run with no health/armor upgrades?

[slow sigil]

yeah and that's also why you dont need combat shotgun

[azure oriole]

why dont u use the full weapon wheel

[slow sigil]

removes combat shotgun because "dont need it"
has BFG on it

plasma rifle makes tag1 a lot more dealable

💀

[azure oriole]

you should learn to use the full weapon wheel

[slow sigil]

or just remove BFG instead lmfao

[azure oriole]

im thinking about removing the weapon switch button and fully quickswap with just binds

[slow sigil]

chaingun if you arent a wuss

[slow sigil]

sounds a bit hell for console but alr if your hands can handle it

why would ya need shield for cubermancubi

the ground attack goes through shield, and any other attack you can easily dodge while meathooking

[azure oriole]

i tried practicing and its uncomfortable as shit, ik someone who can do that but idk how he does it

[slow sigil]

with pain lol

[azure oriole]

lol

Hello
Everyone

[slow sigil]

All AOE grounr shit goes through shields for.... some reason

[azure oriole]

Can someone help me plz?

[slow sigil]

But he doesnt do that attack if you're a bit into the air anyways

[azure oriole]

Maybe the shield forgor to shield his legs or just for balance or something

Does somebody can give me some tips about the Battlemode when you are playing a Slayer?

*Can somebody

[wraith sail]

They're good in early game when you only have the Heavy rifle and Shotgun.

Grenade + Sticky Bomb + PB

[eager helm]

Thanks I'll remember that

[warm wing]

Memories broken

The truth goes unspoken

[strange gale]

[eager helm]

I've even forgotten my name.

[azure oriole]

Oh great, here we go again

[warm wing]

Idk the season

[eager helm]

Or what is the reason

[warm wing]

I'm standing here holding my blade

[eager helm]

A desolate place

[warm wing]

Without any trace

[eager helm]

It's only the cold wind I feel

[warm wing]

It's me that I spite

[eager helm]

Um idk if mods will mute me since we're singing mgr in eternal chat

[warm wing]

Yea let's stop

[mossy nova]

haydens robot body looks like a action figure

🤨

can doom eternal be played on the psp ?

[patent stream]

Missing quite a few buttons and power

[gray hawk]

I lost in battlemode 😤😤😤

[quasi yoke]

Im sure it'll run

I can't change my nickname back to my original name

[primal relic]

Best and worst level, go

[wraith sail]

Help I encountered an arachnotron and it can't die

[azure oriole]

Reload Checkpoint

[wraith sail]

It's just in the idle anim

[bleak geyser]

Hey people I have a question about the lore. Which channel should I use?

[slow sigil]

this one

[azure oriole]

this

[bleak geyser]

Alright cool. So is there a confirmed answer about the appearance of Davoth and the Slayer? My theory is that when the Slayer used the Divinity machine, his appearance changed to match Davoth's. Now that happened because the machine had his power or because the machine made primevals and all looked the same. But what about what Doomguy looked like before he became the Slayer?

[slow sigil]

there is no reason davoth and the salyer look the same

like actually, there isnt a reason why they look the same

[azure oriole]

There is no explanation in the story of why it is (as far as i know)

[slow sigil]

it can't be the divinity machine because doomguy looked like that before he even entered the machine

and davoth got revived to his original form, and he looked like that in the codexes too

[azure oriole]

Technically, you never see his face before he entered the machine

The only slayer faces we see are from the current time

[mossy nova]

davoth might have used his own body for doom guy but didnt do anything during doom guys birth

[slow sigil]

OG doom??

[mossy nova]

i should really unsmooth my brain

[strange gale]

certainly saves a nice chunk of budget to not model an entirely new character

• doppelgängers exist in real life, it's just a matter of genetic lottery

[mossy nova]

why is doom 2 master levels easy

[wraith sail]

Idk ask #classic-doom??

[azure oriole]

There is no way to tell if the slayers face is the exact same since the previous games are just pixels

[mossy nova]

okay

[slow sigil]

you can clearly see it looks about the same

[azure oriole]

about the same

[slow sigil]

yeah

[azure oriole]

not exactly same

[slow sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/993907247883239486/1000777462411690035/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/993907247883239486/1000777502836396144/unknown.png

[bleak geyser]

Thanks for the lightning response. Kinda disappointing in my opinion that it's not explained. But ok at least I know now. I was going crazy.

[slow sigil]

it just looks like he got older

[slow sigil]

they wanted to explain it but couldnt cause of time constraints, rip

[wraith sail]

His face looks a bit shorter but yeah

[mossy nova]

yes kinda

[azure oriole]

Probably will be explained on later games

[bleak geyser]

Also his family and Daisy are confirmed right?

[mossy nova]

yes

i even screenshotted the family photo

but doom guys face is ripped off in the photo

[azure oriole]

Wait there is a family photo?

[mossy nova]

yes

[azure oriole]

I know that theres a rabbit cage on the fortress of doom but i never knew about the photo

[mossy nova]

its under the desk in doom guys mancave

[slow sigil]

hopefully, though they likely will let it stay "whoopsie it's just random chance!!"

[azure oriole]

i gotta check that out

[slow sigil]

family not really, daisy well, yeah

[azure oriole]

imagine they say that they were lazy so they decided to make the main villian doomguy with red eyes lmao

[slow sigil]

i mean, again, they did want to give an explenation

[mossy nova]

https://youtu.be/aZuMmlPXhfE

[slow sigil]

"he is you from their world" and all that jazz

[azure oriole]

Woah

[mossy nova]

are we gonna question how doom guys suit was different

[slow sigil]

he tinkered with it, you can see it in his manvave

[bleak geyser]

Is the kid wearing a uac jacket?

[mossy nova]

because of this we know doom guy was sent to sentinel prime in doom 64 but the suit is doom 2 not doom 64

[mossy nova]

thats intern guy

[bleak geyser]

You lost me there.

[mossy nova]

from mission 6 and tag 1

intern guy is like us

[bleak geyser]

I remember the cool intern guy.

[mossy nova]

yes

[azure oriole]

woohoo another softlock i love this game

[bleak geyser]

I was talking about Doomguy's baby in the photo.

[mossy nova]

i still question why its hair is white

gtg

[bleak geyser]

Alright so I have two more questions and I won't take up any more of your time. How do you think they are going to justify the Slayer being op again in the next game, if his power is now maybe gone, because Davoth is dead? My second question is regarding the marine in doom 3.

[flint flame]

Eh, it’s a classic villain trope to have the villain be a dark version of a hero. Also keep in mind the dlc’s were developed during the height of the pandemic

[azure oriole]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HilariousHonorableWheelKappaClaus-GyVsfHdbxwCkHZQ_ can anyone tell me how did i do that frame ballista?

[crimson yarrow]

Why do I rarely here about the rocket/ballista quick-switch combo?

[azure oriole]

cuz its shit

[flint flame]

Slow as hell, rockets take too long

Sure, you have two high damage weapons, and in theory it’s better in long range than say ssg ballista, but it’s not even close to pb ballista

[azure oriole]

man im so bad at this game and idk how to get good

i always get destroyed to 5 hp constantly

[spark saffron]

What's pb again. I forgot

[azure oriole]

precision bolt

[spark saffron]

Oh ok

Never tried pb ballista before

[flint flame]

Highly recommend it

[crimson yarrow]

I honestly find it more natural for me to play without quick-switching (outside of 2 shotting turrets with Ballista/PB, I even prefer to full-auto over SSG/Ballista)

I beat both Taras Nabad and world spear master levels several times on nightmare without other combos and now tried to quick switch more and tbh didn't find it all that easier, just more energy consuming

[untold fern]

Did anyone else struggle to get into Eternal at first?

I've played every doom game before this, and I'm halfway through the second level and I can't stand it. I'm following a ghost dog around?
Everyone's like "Oh just dw about it rip and tear!" and I would if there wasn't goofy platforming, tutorial popups and retuning to a ship to listen to story nonsense.
It's supposed to be more serious in tone with the story but one of the item pickups is a 6 foot yellow fist?
I don't know what it's going for

[azure oriole]

alot of ppl including me, this game is hard to get good at

oh ur talking about lore

[untold fern]

I mean the whole thing

[azure oriole]

if u only play the game for the story consider refunding

[untold fern]

Dude no

[azure oriole]

The yellow fists give you blood punches

[flint flame]

If you want more seriousness, you can go back to 2016. Eternal takes a more arcade-y approach and so pick ups are brighter and it holds your hand through some challenges

[untold fern]

I know, but idk why it has to look so goofy

[azure oriole]

doom eternal is designed to look like an arcade game go play the other doom games if u want serious stuff

Its more of an arcade style

[untold fern]

I mean I can't, coz I've done the game. I wouldn't mind eternal if it picked a style, but I struggle to see how it can go for arcadey and a more serious story tone at the same time

[flint flame]

They balance the gore in the game with the more vibrant elements

[azure oriole]

if you want a more "serious" style you can disable glory kill highlights, change the ui colour and use cinematic mode

thats the most u can do about it

[azure oriole]

I did not

[untold fern]

I can't really do much about the gameplay pace being contradicted by a bunch of cutscenes. Idk man I just can't get into it. All the other Dooms were fine, even 3 when I went into it open minded. This just seems some weird mess.

[strange gale]

framing serious events as "the player character doesn't care about saving the world so this apocalyptic event is just an excuse for the gameplay to exist" isn't a new concept

[azure oriole]

the whole game isn't like that

plus you're in like the 2nd level just keep playing

[untold fern]

I'll stick with it then because the gameplay does seem good

[strange gale]

i think you might be conflating serious events with a serious tone

[sacred dirge]

Woah..

Mad lad

[untold fern]

The dev's made the cutscenes non sensical and boring. I've been told I can get a lot of the story from the datalogs. Again, doesn't match the gameplay.

[slow sigil]

story not mattering in doom? no way

[untold fern]

Then why even try to include it?

[sacred dirge]

framework

[slow sigil]

you can literally skip it tbf

[strange gale]

would it make for any of the locations in the game to exist if there were no reason to go to any of them

[sacred dirge]

You need to go into doom with the corny 80s 90s action movie mentality because that's what it was based around

[slow sigil]

andif there was literally nothing qua story then people wouldnt really care either, you need atleast something

[strange gale]

in every exposition dump cutscene, all doomguy does is whatever it takes to leave asap and get back to killing, i.e. he waves away all the implications of what's happening, i.e., you're not supposed to care either

not a very serious portrayal of events

[untold fern]

Classic doom managed it with one screen of text every 8 levels.

[strange gale]

which you don't read anyway

[sacred dirge]

It did not

[slow sigil]

uhhh ok?

[untold fern]

The first level is him killing a priest, and then walking up to two others priests just to drop a head and leave again. It's literally pointless.

[sacred dirge]

The stories were contradictions and again only used for framework. Carmack himself said the story in doom doesn't matter

[slow sigil]

ok, then skip the custcenes?

if you dont care then... dont care? idk what you are trying to prove rn

[untold fern]

Then, again, why bother making a story?

[sacred dirge]

Framework

Just like any other action movie. Why is A going to B and such

[slow sigil]

having no story at all isnt what people want these days

[untold fern]

And the endless amount of datalogs?

[slow sigil]

trying to make lore so that devs have something fun to do

[strange gale]

because we're 30 years removed from the original game, and not having any reason for things to happen doesn't fly anymore

[untold fern]

you can stop talking now.

[sacred dirge]

The lore is neat and if you like the story it's there for you to like. I think what we re saying here is the story really isn't the priority

[slow sigil]

i can say the same thing for gameplay, why is the crucible ingame if it does nothing? why is the plasma rifle ingame if it is so terrible? etc etc

[sacred dirge]

My poor plasma

[slow sigil]

why do the devs even make the game if they cant have any mistakes? perfection for an varied audience is because of subjective opinions also impossible

[untold fern]

It might be, but the gameplay just doesn't gel with it. It's not any more serious than any other doom game, but it seems to want to be a lot more epic and explored. I just don't think it's for me. 2016 felt serious and fun, even the classics felt motivating, but I can't be excited about the end of the world when every caco makes a comic popping sound and I'm chasing a dog ghost.

[sacred dirge]

As a 2016 lover I feel you there

[azure oriole]

the end of the world is a very crazy situation, so is a hell invasion and spirit wolves and a crazy lumberjacker with a laser axe

does anyone have a dodging guide its literally impossible for me to not get my shield melted

idk how players like smvr do it, they make the game look so easy they never take damage its insane

[gray hawk]

Press shift

[azure oriole]

if it was that easy

[gray hawk]

Pay attention to projectiles

Move around the map more

[azure oriole]

This. Doom is b-movie camp a fair bit, not to be taken too seriously

[azure oriole]

Stay airborne as much as you can

its not easy

Use the meathook and nearby jump pads

i know but meathook only gets me up for a sec

[azure oriole]

I agree with you that 2016 managed the tone far better.
Eternal is like saturday morning cartoon at times (=tag 2).
Doesn't deter gameplay but it's quite thematically dissonant yeah

Hey Chat, What Is all the talking around here?

Are the hord mode bounty demon outlines supposed to look pixelated or is my pc bad? i am confused

[royal path]

Aight, time for another UN run; wish me luck and hopefully no rage quit!

[azure oriole]

gl, don't get mad rmber every death you Improve.

[royal path]

Yep; just wanna beat Cultist Base already; baby steps.

[azure oriole]

Rage quit is integral to the un experience

[azure oriole]

I think I only ragequitted I don't know if It was ragequit but my first khan fight I died due to not knowing how Sthrow works

[nocturne token]

I hate cultist base with every fiber of my being, hope I can beat on UN soon

[azure oriole]

Ooh I rage quit several times.
Once even mid mission because I kept getting stuck on geo or smth

[azure oriole]

I actually raged (which I said before but idk if it was a rage cuz like all caps but was only dissapointment) in doom eternal only 1 time

[royal path]

Especially when dying in the most pathetic way imaginable to fodder demons.

[royal path]

I've practiced the CRAP out of it; have gotten pretty decent actually, to such an extent that I actually enjoy the challenge now, and it feels weird playing with the SSG!

[azure oriole]

For me it's a loud swear followed by game quit and then doing smth else (like ranting in discord, lol).
I don't physically "rage".

[azure oriole]

I wanted to limit my rage and anger issues on games

[royal path]

Sticky Grenade + Micro Missile/Plasma Rifle Combo is fantastic.

[nocturne token]

Nice man, I’m gonna practice for a while, then start my next run

[azure oriole]

I only sweared I don't quit the game

[royal path]

I'll incorporate it into my loop now.

[azure oriole]

Usually by now I'm just disappointed and I'm saying that I could do better

[azure oriole]

Rack of micro missiles + 3 stickies is decent. Once you get hot swapper and rl in cultist you can do pb rocket which is superior but until then.

But if you can't do pb rocket micro missiles + stickies remains usable

And yeah follow up with heat blast or plasma if needed

[burnt moss]

Stuff like this is why you leave modswap bound imo

[azure oriole]

You'd only need it bound during exultia really, in my scenario.
Hot swapper means pb combos replace micro missiles + stickies

[sacred dirge]

It's always good to take a break when you're feeling stressed. Messing up the " easy part" is the kind of thing that happens when you don't

[azure oriole]

Can't do modswap cancels without modswap tho so it's somewhat essential for me too

[untold fern]

I did jump straight from 2016 to Eternal the very next day. I'll take a break and come back to it with an open mind. I keep comparing the two nd it's probably not fair.

[azure oriole]

Maybe

always thought micro missiles kinda sucked in eternal

[azure oriole]

Which further means you can stick to the "meta" mods (stickies, pb, heat blast, lock on, dblade, shield)

[burnt moss]

The first two levels of 2016 were super boring after Eternal for me

[azure oriole]

Ofc it's fair, both are video games of the same series from same dev.
You don't have to like everything.

Game froze on Icon of Sin phase 2. Froze my PC too. Anyone else have this?

[sacred dirge]

2016 usually doesn't sit well with people who started with eternal.

[untold fern]

Yeah, but I hated Doom 2 when I immediately played it after 1

[azure oriole]

My first doom was eternal

[sacred dirge]

Alot of people's first doom experience was eternal. The marketing for eternal was fantastic compared to previous doom games

[burnt moss]

Same. I did DE ITYTD, then 3 runs of 2016, then all the runs of DE.

[azure oriole]

So uh... guess that’s a no?

[sacred dirge]

I've had my pc freeze before If that's what you mean

[gray hawk]

Wenomechainsama

[azure oriole]

Also personally i quite liked the lore, it had its own charm

Only franchise where a Mary Sue character works lore wise and isn’t completely cringe

[gray hawk]

Oh yea

[azure oriole]

Does anyone support the idea of something like a snapmap in doom eternal?

[flint flame]

No

[gray hawk]

Sometimes it does that but just reload the game, icon of sin is easy af

[azure oriole]

Tbh i kinda ignored him and kept slicing demons with the crucible

After a while the game froze, I don’t think i was meant to do that LOL

[gray hawk]

L

[flint flame]

No you are

[gray hawk]

Bro what you talking about

[flint flame]

Crucible pick ups respawn

[azure oriole]

Yeah i know, I’m just joking

[royal path]

There a trick to this? I think the Stickies/MM combo was suggested by you! 🙂

[flint flame]

Not you

[gray hawk]

B

[sacred dirge]

Not exactly a Mary Sue but close. His life has sucked. He's lost everything. All he feels is angry and he's lost his base humanity. Just basically a gun you point at things. More of a machine now than a person. Even compared to classic doom

[gray hawk]

Who the hell ks Mary Sue

[azure oriole]

I mean like, doom eternal has the perfect stuff to build an awsome level

[flint flame]

Yeah, but id is practically done with eternal

[sacred dirge]

Quake con is almost here by the way

[azure oriole]

Thats kinda depressing

[gray hawk]

😭

[azure oriole]

At least a multiplayer campaign would be perfect. imagine killing the icon of sin with da homies

[gray hawk]

Soon

Just gotta wait some years for id to think about it

[azure oriole]

They're not doing that

[azure oriole]

would be too easy

[flint flame]

Coop is out of the question

[gray hawk]

I think battlemode is already enough for doom

[azure oriole]

Sadly, i know what the next doom game is gonna be :(

[flint flame]

You do?

[burnt moss]

Next one’s gonna just be called Doom Doom Doom

[flint flame]

Please do enlighten us

[azure oriole]

my pcs doom graphics suddenly started going worse can somebody help

[opal galleon]

His dad works for id

[azure oriole]

help

[azure oriole]

P sure I did 🙂
No trick, just that quickswap combos are more efficient

[spark saffron]

Nah if cod bo3 could do it then doom can do it

[azure oriole]

I really hope id announce their next game

[azure oriole]

Doom 6: Tokyo Drift

[royal path]

OH FFS GUYS I DIED TO THE CACO AT THE END OF EXULTIA!

[azure oriole]

ain't that bad

[royal path]

It was just a DUMB DEATH.

[spark saffron]

That one disco song doom doom doom how do ya like me how do ya like me

[azure oriole]

I died to khan mayker. and gladiator 3times

[royal path]

I'm so over Hell on Earth and Exultia at this point.

[sacred dirge]

It'll either be that or some skins for eternal lol

[azure oriole]

I'm pretty sure it will be skins

[royal path]

Like I flew right into a Caco fireball and was doing so well; everything else was great.

Just don't have the patience to go through it ALL again just to get to damned Cultist Base.

[sacred dirge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/fTn2pF5I3Sk?feature=share

[royal path]

Think I'm gonna go play some Stray now or something. Later, slayers; have a good one!

[spark saffron]

If u do the campaign on ultra nightmare is it like if u die u restart the mission or the entire campaign?

[azure oriole]

Yeah that sucks.
Honestly biggest hurdle of un is having the willpower to repeat hearth and exultia

[burnt moss]

Entire campaign

[spark saffron]

:0

[azure oriole]

stop making me jealous

[burnt moss]

UNnecessary

[sacred dirge]

Never

[azure oriole]

that Shell is worth more than my entire life

[sacred dirge]

It was only like 50 bucks haha

[royal path]

Absolutely, man; but you know what? I got TONS of hours of enjoyment outta DE at this point; if I never beat UN that's all good, and I'm really just doing it cos I don't know what else to do when I still crave some DE. It may be time to move onto the backlog.

[azure oriole]

see? I was born for free

[burnt moss]

I’m most worried about CB. Previous levels have plenty of opportunities for dumb mistakes but CB starts using overwhelming force.

[azure oriole]

unlike this shell

[sacred dirge]

To raise the average child it costs around 100 k

[azure oriole]

shhh... we don't talk about that

[azure oriole]

I stopped trying un and returned to it later 2 or 3 times.
Not being sure I'd make it. Eventually I did but in retrospect I could have quit trying and been happier probably, lol

[royal path]

Practice; once you know enemy placements it can be quite breezy; I have great strats worked out, now I just need to get there and not make dumb mistakes.

[azure oriole]

Your parents would disagree 🤣

[azure oriole]

Parent*

Ah, sorry about that

[burnt moss]

My kids range from 60-200 bucks

[azure oriole]

You know the run you'll eventually make it in is the really messy one where you almost die constantly.
The "this is going great" runs always end to some random stupid shit.

Why is the slayer not using the crucible at the ancient gods 1

It just seems confusing

[slow sigil]

cause it broke

[azure oriole]

he literally broke off the blade at the end of the campaign

he technically broke the blade, but he also broke the blade when getting it off the titan and then repaired it to kill the icon of sin

[slow sigil]

yeah but that was the only coin in his vault remember?

[azure oriole]

yes...but he got a coin to use it again

w h a t

i apparently play the game eyes closed lmao

i have never heard of a coin even though i finished campaign 2 times

lmao

i gotta pay attention to what im playing

@tame mango hi

[tame mango]

hey pal

[dim solar]

man, playing master levels after beating UN horde mode feels like such a breeze

it's incredible how much you can improve in this game

[strange gale]

what a concept

[sacred dirge]

Improvement is fun

[spark saffron]

Anyone know where to find pain elementals on taras nabad?

[azure oriole]

The World spear master level is literally mocking me

[jaunty vapor]

First secret encounter
Arena after the Divinity Machine cutscene
One after picking up Crucible I believe?
One at the end after actually getting the crucible for realsies

[azure oriole]

i fought with blood maykrs with the plasma gun because all i got was shotguns

[jaunty vapor]

Do you have sticky bombs?

[azure oriole]

and the game decides to give me a ballista at the literal end of it

thanks alot that really helped

[jaunty vapor]

Sticky Bomb headshots one shot Blood Maykrs

[azure oriole]

wish i knew that lmao

i atleast have green chrome after all that suffering

nevermind there was a second part

my suffering continues

[azure oriole]

Just play through it

[spark saffron]

Aight thanks. I did it. Was getting PSN trophy

[azure oriole]

Anyone notice that the praetor combat shotgun skin looks very similar to the nerf rival Saturn?

finally i got green chrome

[toxic laurel]

starting my first ultra nightmare let's see how long it will take of me bashing my head against the game to beat it

[azure oriole]

UN for campaign?

im in tears of joy

finally after 3 hours i got green chrome

[spark girder]

When I play eternal every fight I go into I can’t seem to use the flame belch to gain shield while staying in the cycle of moving and shooting and cycling guns to fight every demon, and every time I go into a fight I always lose my shields so I’m lost

[azure oriole]

hopefully its not ugly

[toxic laurel]

ya, already did it on nightmare and am working on the dlc on nightmare but got the day off tmrw so I might as well try my luck

[azure oriole]

the blade glows i think

its pretty good

its decent

looks good but not my preference

[crimson yarrow]

Next game should have sliding

[azure oriole]

Next game should have crouching

And it will have no purpose but why not have additional keys

console players 😢

[dim solar]

crouching was already pretty worthless in 2016, why would you want it back

[burnt moss]

How do you get that?

[azure oriole]

ah yes i love reducing my movement speed and being extremely easy to get hit

[crimson yarrow]

Sliding could falter enemies by knocking them around

Like in F.E.A.R

Also fuck the cursed prowler, worst enemy in the game

[azure oriole]

World Spear master level

[azure oriole]

World spear master level

[sacred dirge]

Fear was great

[burnt moss]

Yeah sometimes I don’t have a bloodpunch

[burnt moss]

What difficulty?

[azure oriole]

Any

Classic mode - any difficulty

[burnt moss]

Is it a skin or a weapon skin?

[azure oriole]

Both

Slayer skin

The weapon skin is for completing all the challenges including ultra nightmare

[burnt moss]

Classic mode gives you the slayer skin?

[azure oriole]

👍

[burnt moss]

Classic mode isn’t deathless is it?

[azure oriole]

It's not

[burnt moss]

Do you lose your weapons when you die?

[toxic laurel]

think so

[wide heath]

its cool but\

TO MANY BUTTONS

[jaunty vapor]

You do not.

[high lava]

Doomslayer vs spongebob D for doomguy S for Spongebob

[azure forum]

Now you need to get the UAC podium son and you will have the best slayer setup

[flint flame]

[crimson yarrow]

Maybe they could give you chainsaw legs like in Turbo Overkill

[hybrid wolf]

So I just got around to finishing ancient gods part 2 and..that's it? Seems a Lil anticlimactic

[flint flame]

Yeah

[hybrid wolf]

I Mean a little exposition on what happened after woulda been cool. Maybe an explanation why he just fell over

[burnt moss]

Also why do some bosses get their own level?

[jaunty vapor]

I imagine it had to do with the environments. DHB and Urdak, the boss is in those environments. Gladiator is in a Taras environment rather than hell/Mars, and for Dark Lord it flip flops between 3 environments. In the actual physical space these areas are VERY far apart, too, so I imagine there's some reason they needed that much space for Dark Lord

Probably something something sky boxes

[azure oriole]

That's because TAG 2 isn't the climax of Eternal.

Davoth and TAG 2 as a whole is much easier to appreciate when you remember that it's not meant to be the climax of the story - it's the epilogue. Killing the Icon is the climax. TAG 1 and 2 are cleaning up some loose ends.

[jaunty vapor]

It's like Mass Effect 3. The actual climax to ME3 is underwhelming, but the ENTIRE GAME as a finale is actually really good.

[azure oriole]

Yeah

Davoth isn't, like, the biggest baddest threat here. The Icon was a much more pressing matter than Davoth was. The point of Davoth is moreso the Slayer just going back to mop the floor with what's left from the base game.

When you look at it like that, I think TAG is much better story-wise when you appreciate it as an epilogue to the main story rather than a continuation outright.

[jaunty vapor]

I think that mentality helps but they are still rather flawed.

Though I don't think anyone claims otherwise lol

[azure oriole]

Oh no yeah they've still got their flaws.

I personally am kinder to TAG storywise than I think anyone else is. My only true, genuine issue with them storywise is the lack of explanation for Davoth and the Slayer being identical in appearance. That and I don't like Reclaimed Earth

[hybrid wolf]

I'm also a but salty about the fact they took our sword away without an explanation. Same thing with the doom fortress in orbit. Hell they never even explained where that came from to start with

[azure oriole]

???

They explain the Crucible being taken away. It's stuck in the Icon.

[hybrid wolf]

Well there's the crucible. And then there was our sword we got in the main game.

[sacred dirge]

Can't remove it

Ah.. the sword

[hybrid wolf]

Yeah the literal sword we had to go get from the slain titan. It just vanished.

[slow sigil]

it literally didnt? it's blade is stuck in the icons head

and tbf the crucible is boring as shit anwyays

[hybrid wolf]

@slow sigil that's the crucible -_-

[slow sigil]

.... you know that that red glowy sword thing is caleld the crucible right

[hybrid wolf]

Sigh...

[slow sigil]

you rip it away from a dead titan on st. prime in taras nabad
you forge it anew in taras nabad
you put it in the icons head
that is sword, the crucible

there is also the demonic crucible which is what is now powering the slayers fortress

2 crucibles, cause ID can't be bothered to get unique names

https://youtu.be/LzKBlx80DFA?t=1435

[sacred dirge]

You know what they say about people that name their swords

[hybrid wolf]

Yeah that's the other thing, where tf did our fortress go. And where did it come from. At the end of DOOM we got sent back to hell by Hayden. The in DE suddenly we have a fortress and the earth is overrun? Tf?

[sacred dirge]

You don't go to hell

[azure oriole]

That is stuck in the Icon dude.

The Crucible we got from Taras Nabad is the one you stick in the Icon.

[hybrid wolf]

@azure oriole I was thinking the sword and demonic crucible were different things. Been awhile since ei played DOOM

[slow sigil]

they wanted to explain the 2016-eternal stuff in tag originally but they changed their mind
it's gonna be better explained in a random lore book they teased uhhh over a year ago now? and STILL isnt out

[slow sigil]

it's stupid ID naming anyways dw

[azure oriole]

They are. There are two Crucibles

[hybrid wolf]

Yes but I didn't realize they were both called crucible

[azure oriole]

Ah ok.

[sacred dirge]

Demonic is the one from the end of 2016. It's the main focus for the last few missions

[flint flame]

❔❔

[azure oriole]

They saw mine and scrapped it.

[slow sigil]

i would belief you

[hybrid wolf]

And yeah that's a thing I hate that bungie keeps doing. Instead of making more content they just put lore books into the game.

[azure oriole]

Anyway in regards to the Fortress and the Demonic Crucible IMO it is implied the Slayer gave Earth the D. Crucible and thus the Fortress is unusable.

[sacred dirge]

But... you have a witcher 3 pfp...

[flint flame]

When people are answering my questions and removing any confusion but I don’t like their answer!!

[slow sigil]

both, both should happen
though story/lore should be telled in actual gameplay

[sacred dirge]

Told

[hybrid wolf]

When you have nothing to contribute so you act an ass. blocked

[azure oriole]

Well with Doom it's hard to do that because people hate gameplay and story overlapping.

IMO Eternal does a fine job of having gameplay and story side by side, IMO its problem moreso is that its priorities with what it tells the player are out of wack.

[near root]

will we get a Final Sin level with 4 Icons of Sin?

[sacred dirge]

.....

[paper gorge]

holy shit, took me 3 hours to beat dark lord

[slow sigil]

environmental story telling, skippable cutscenes, voice fragments during parkour parts
enough ways to do it

[near root]

it took me nearly a week, far too damn long

[azure oriole]

is massive lore chatting rn?

[sacred dirge]

Also collectable lore which is optional to read or collect / care about

[jaunty vapor]

Imagine if ALL cutscenes could be skippable instead of only some of them

[slow sigil]

yeah but ngl that should be a bit limited though

[hybrid wolf]

They did that alot with destiny/D2. Hey you gotta go do this mission to stop this really important bad guy. But we arnt gonna give you any missions explaining anything, go read the 300 pages of lore to figure out why your doing things

[sacred dirge]

I never cared to much about a peice of paper or a pda on the floor I could read or didn't have to read

[azure oriole]

And like, what I said before - I firmly believe Eternal's lore and its actual story is great. I love its story and lore, I think it is genuinely very well-written and worthy of this franchise.
What is less than ideal is that it's told very poorly. I came to my positive conclusion about this game's story because I read and wrote a novel's worth of lore. Which was awesome and I loved doing that, but the player shouldn't have to do that to appreciate it.

[slow sigil]

those 2 second long dumbscenes shouldnt even exist inthe first palce

[flint flame]

That’s crazy!!

[paper gorge]

his tactic basically maudareur douchebag version

[sacred dirge]

Poor Saber. Hated on

[azure oriole]

why I started being more online at 12pm to 3am

[hybrid wolf]

Damn, 3 hours? A week? Took me like 30 minutes cause he wouldn't frigging do the green eyeed attack thing

[azure oriole]

anyways, hey bloodshot.

[jaunty vapor]

Just noclip shot oh wait id had to patch that AMAZING strat that was super fast and definitely not just a 1 hour time waste.

[hybrid wolf]

@azure oriole oh I agree. The the story is awesome. Really expands on the DOOM universe well, connects the dots on alot of things. But there's alot of gaps that you'd have to stop and read on and let's be real, anyone whose playing a game doesn't wanna sit there and read for 3 hours lol

[azure oriole]

id always ruins things that casual players wont use anyway, and it hurts the speedrunning community.

[jaunty vapor]

Noclip shots don't even REALLY save time, I really don't understand why they had to make him completely immune outside of the stun window

[hybrid wolf]

The hunter guys with the axes and dogs are obnoxious. You got 2 of them after you plus all the weaker adds and then it throws in some sheileded BS mob. I get its not supposed to be easy to kill but having to skate around either the hunters or all the other mobs to just focus getting rid of one or another is just annoying, all because the hunters are immune to all damage until your able to stun them

[flint flame]

Hugo saying they’ll cater the game to speed runners but instead taking away skips and putting in lethal pink goo

[jaunty vapor]

Marauders aren't immune though. You can actually sticky bomb in front of them and they'll walk over the explosion. It's the "safest" way to fight them, albeit a bit slower than just 1 or 2 cycling them

That said, it's also not obvious that this is the case to casual/new players

[flint flame]

Or you could just get good? Lol

[hybrid wolf]

Wait really? I didn't realize that. Anytime I tried to use any methods besides the stun phase it didn't seem to do any damage.

[azure forum]

A good way to kill them as well when they decide to never attack but just pull the shield and run to you.

[hybrid wolf]

I feel like the hammer shoulda been able to break they're shield atleast

[jaunty vapor]

I mean hammer already is OP against them

[azure oriole]

im not much of a speedrunner I speedruned mc only but other than that im just a casual player so I have literally no word on knowing what speedrunning DE looks like (besides watching your videos bloodshot.) but yeah patching something that most casual players nor speedrunners wont use so, there was no reason to make him immune outside

[jaunty vapor]

Stun + hammer and 2 lock on bursts will kill any Marauder

[jaunty vapor]

For me the biggest sticking point is not only them patching out some of this stuff, but not even addressing it in the patch notes (hence the necessity of my role on the server)

There's still no confirmation whether Unmaykr was or wasn't/is or isn't supposed to work with Overdrive

[hybrid wolf]

Oh, also is it me or did the BFG get nerfed in eternal? In DOOM 2016 it was the end all map wipe weapon, in eternal it just wipes put all the little stuff and simply hurts the tougher enemies

[flint flame]

What? Lol

[jaunty vapor]

Damage doc is pinned in this channel. Most super heavies take reduced damage from the tendrils, but increased from the impact/splash damage

[hybrid wolf]

I figured with the rarity of the ammo it should still be a map wipe. But that's just my opinion.

[spark saffron]

No

[jaunty vapor]

I mean it generally is a map wipe. It just incentivizes you to also get the splash damage rather than JUST tendril damage

[hybrid wolf]

Fair enough

[spark saffron]

It one shots archville on splash

[azure oriole]

I can fully agree in this one why they wouldnt say like ** oh guys we patched some skips (name of the skips)** that would be much better instead of shadow patches

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah. At this point, I'm just hoping whatever id's next game is, maybe they work with the community more. The best case scenario would be to have actual "patches" available, either using Steams interface or, BEST best case scenario, in game. Some games do that and its always well received with the community when that's possible

[hybrid wolf]

I feel like there's potential for a fun offshoot of eternal though. I Mean if I was ID I'd look into it. Give us an FPS where you play as a regular soldier fighting in the various battles, let us play with the tanks and mechs a little. Put it in continuity with DE, like this is what was going on elsewhere while DOOMslayer was rip and tearing in the main game

[azure oriole]

I would like to see them talk with the community like Techland did in the times of dl1 and be transparent and ask what players would like to see, or when doing silent patches just telling the community what they patched

[azure oriole]

anyway im out and gonna wish ya'all gn

[sacred dirge]

I'm curious about how much they took note when it came to our suggestions in discord

[spring arch]

HOG FED FS FOL KT GOO HE

[burnt moss]

You take that back

[spring arch]

GONE

[high moth]

Pretty easy to kill, hit them with the super shotgun and then just combo that with the ballista

[spring arch]

DADFy UOIR FOUJ

TGERGO

[high moth]

How could you say that

[amber mauve]

any tips for quick switching weapons?

[digital cape]

Switch weapons but faster

[jaunty vapor]

For PC, use keybinds exclusively.

For console, set your weapon wheel delay to the lowest. Equip one weapon, then the 2nd weapon you want to quick switch between. Pressing weapon wheel button will now swap between the two

[amber mauve]

what keybinds did u use

[jaunty vapor]

Usually players use binds close to their movement keys. I personally do
1 shotgun
2 and R heavy rifle
3 plasma rifle
Q rocket
X ballista
Z SSG
C chaingun
G BFG
F chainsaw

The R for heavy rifle is for punch swaps. I have a mouse button AND e bound to punch, so I just have to do left click for the shit, e-r-shoot, e-r-shoot, etc

[amber mauve]

thank you

[jaunty vapor]

Sure thing. I will say just use what's most comfortable for you (though I do get having other kinds as an example can help)

[azure oriole]

almost the same

tho I still would need to practice

[crystal tapir]

So i bought doom then bought ancient gods and i want to know can i still get demonic slayer

[flint flame]

Nope

[sacred dirge]

Demonic lie

[mossy nova]

you only get the demonic slayer skin via buying deluxe editon not the dlc

[untold fern]

Uhh, can I post a screenshot somewhere? Not sure how to get through this wall.

[mossy nova]

#screenshots

[untold fern]

Alright, posted it in #screenshots if anyone can help

Idk if I'm being dumb

[mossy nova]

umm you need a sentinel battery to power up the hand

[untold fern]

Ah okay, cheers

[mossy nova]

and destroy the wall

[untold fern]

So does that involve going back to the ship, coz I thought I picked one of those up already.

[mossy nova]

no its nearby

[untold fern]

Alright, thank you

[mossy nova]

https://youtu.be/n9q3vdBNsLA

[untold fern]

I thought the purple goo would damage me LOL, my bad

[dim solar]

I'm playing mars core ml and one of the archies in the quad damage arena summoned a Baron below the ground and I can't reach him

and two BFG tendrils didn't kill him either

Bruh momento

[spark saffron]

Is it by the maintenance thing by the bfg core? Cause that's where it happens for me

[mossy nova]

i skipped that arena

[umbral kraken]

Can anyone with RTX 3080 driver 516.59 (the newest one) confirm that Eternal works for them cuz for me it doesn’t even launch not even blackscreen/error just nothing happens

[untold fern]

Alright, level 2 is done. I'm warming to Eternal. I still think there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to exist, like a cutscene everytime I pick up a power core to use a mech, falling platform sections, even holding A to confirm a selection is bugging me, but it seems to be going for a more grand, long term adventure sort of game so I'll try and match my patience to it. Reminding me more of Borderlands, which I can appreciate. Still zero clue what the hell the story is but I can work that out anytime.

[lucid bolt]

i completed doom eternal for the first time, final boss was pain

[dim solar]

not sure what the "maintenance thing" is but is the arena after the one that starts with a lot of pinkies

[dim solar]

lol how

man, master levels are you much fun, bugs aside

[spark saffron]

Idk what u talking about but I mean the maintenance shaft that opens due to the people locking the main door to the bfg core cause they knew the doom slayer was gonna go in there.

[mossy ferry]

First Time? You just wait...

[lucid bolt]

what

[flint flame]

People with doom eternal promo art as their pfp tend to not make any sense

[lucid bolt]

i see

[mossy ferry]

ye

I dont make sense

[spark saffron]

Imagine listening to freebird

U really don't make any sense

[mossy ferry]

yes

i dont

thank you for making that very clear

[sacred dirge]

I resemble that remark

[timid oracle]

Completed main campaign B)

[mossy nova]

https://youtu.be/T_4C-DtdgQY i crashed trying to do a boost in the last fight

[timid oracle]

Currently trying to get everything else

[flint flame]

Nooo, I’m not gonna include you in that Gougaru

You are a certified cool dude in my book

[mossy nova]

hello drip saber

[sacred dirge]

You too! I just like zombie movies lol

[wraith sail]

How do I use the free cam in photo mode?

[flint flame]

First enable it in settings, then press the key on your hud

[eager helm]

What does kar en tuk mean 🧐

[burnt moss]

Rip and tear

[umbral kraken]

My Doom eternal won't launch after GPU change i upgraded to RTX 3080 and did a clean install of the newest drivers every other game runs fine except for Eternal it won't even start. i switched back to old GPU and it starts no problem..... what can i do to make it run on the new one ? is it caused by that Denuvo or whatever they packaged into that game ?

[mossy ferry]

Did you buy it on steam or xbox?

[umbral kraken]

Steam

[mossy ferry]

Ok, so when I bought my Doom eternal I had the same issue and this video helped me solve it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYH86BsraYQ

[eager helm]

Hey guys can you recommend me some good weapon switching combos? If so that would be great

[azure oriole]

Any single shot weapon + precision bolt

[eager helm]

Precision bolt? Is that the sniper shot

[mossy ferry]

yes

[eager helm]

I see. So like ssg and then sniper shot?

[azure oriole]

Yeah

Precision bolt and rocket is another popular combo

[little geyser]

I always rock the ssg and ballista

[eager helm]

I'll try it ig so ssg sniper shot and sniper shot rocket. Sounds good

[flint flame]

A little slow plus doesn’t work on possessed demons

[timid oracle]

Ssg balesta combo is the most popular

[mossy nova]

im going trash again

[vivid cliff]

it is entirely possible the dark lord was nude at the end of TAG1

[mossy nova]

yes

[vivid cliff]

this game is rated M why didnt they show us that

[timid oracle]

Dm proof. It's for research purposes

[mossy nova]

cuz kids can also play if they can handle it

[vivid cliff]

kids can also play cyberpunk 2077 and gtav

[mossy nova]

yes

[timid oracle]

Bro

[mossy nova]

why am i playing like a game journalist again

[timid oracle]

I can't say the b word

[mossy nova]

i cant say sus sy

[vivid cliff]

lol

[timid oracle]

Esrb sucks

[mossy nova]

without the space

[timid oracle]

If there's nudity the game will be rated ao

[vivid cliff]

ID really showed the dark lord's feet and not his waist area.
bro these guys are unacceptable

[timid oracle]

So no store appearances or ps or xbox

[azure oriole]

Among noobs

[mossy nova]

the question is why do you want to see it ?

[vivid cliff]

i have my reasons

[timid oracle]

I use it stfu

[mossy nova]

how to not play like a game journalist cuz im playing like a game journalist game

[vivid cliff]

imagine gatekeeping combos

[mossy nova]

what

[vivid cliff]

that guy above

[mossy nova]

how to not play like a game journalist

[vivid cliff]

magdump them with grenades

[vivid cliff]

what difficulty are u on

[mossy nova]

always nightmare

last night and today i have been playing like a game journalist

i dont want that

[sacred dirge]

Always good to take a break and rest up

[mossy nova]

im doing that

[vivid cliff]

i notice i play worse when i dont get enough sleep and am mentally not focused as much

[sacred dirge]

Also to many fail attempts. That can get to your head and you'll end up playing worse

[flint flame]

It’s the beginner combo lol

[burnt moss]

Also a good combo with poor aim/ controller haha

Hey I’m struggling with joystick aiming. Do you guys use inverted or regular joystick controls?

[blazing falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-gaming-mouse-mousepad-computer-technology-gif-11600476

solution to console aim trouble

[mossy nova]

a mouse

[burnt moss]

Not using a mouse on my couch thanks

[mossy nova]

a table or something

[sacred dirge]

Or just get gud

[burnt moss]

Also not rich. I just want to be able to play NM on Xbox

[mossy nova]

Mmmm

[sacred dirge]

I use a controller on pc also so it doesn't make much sense

[blazing falcon]

that'll work

[azure oriole]

400$ mouse 140$ mousepad

Just get better 👍

[burnt moss]

So fuck my original question, right?

[mossy nova]

just buy a cheap mouse like me which has been working for a year

[azure oriole]

Ig that’ll work too

[burnt moss]

I came to you for help and you’re all just being elitists rn

[azure oriole]

Lol I just entered

[mossy nova]

whats elitists

[azure oriole]

What’s your question

[mossy nova]

whats elitists

[burnt moss]

Means you’re acting like you’re better than me

[burnt moss]

Whether people use inverted controls or not on joystick

[mossy nova]

okay

[azure oriole]

To me nah

[mossy nova]

how can i bind the same key on another key

[burnt moss]

You use joystick?

[azure oriole]

Yea

Mouse isn’t for me

[azure forum]

Controller aim isnt that bad though

[burnt moss]

Do you use inverted or no? I’m starting over to relearn aiming

[azure forum]

Nope. I don't use inverted

[burnt moss]

So you don’t use inverted?

[azure oriole]

No

Tbh I forgot my controls but I’m pretty sure I don’t use inverted

Man eternal chat isn’t for me

I should go back to general and doom 3

[burnt moss]

So when you move your right joystick up the cursor goes up?

[burnt moss]

Depends on the time. Sometimes it’s great.

[azure oriole]

Doom 3 is greatest chat

[azure oriole]

Wym?

[burnt moss]

Inverted means that when I move my joystick up I look down

[azure oriole]

No I don’t use inverted

[burnt moss]

And I move the joystick down (or toward me) to look up

[azure oriole]

Nope

[sacred dirge]

Gert

[burnt moss]

I’ve been using inverted for years on Goldeneye so I’m worried changing now would be bad. But I also struggle making small adjustments with the joystick.

[azure oriole]

Exactly

[azure forum]

Yep I did use inverted for Goldeneye in the past as well. For eternal im not sure if I would get used to it easily after all this time.

[burnt moss]

So you use inverted for goldeneye but not on Doom?

[azure forum]

But aim ain't that bad with controller anyways. It takes time to find the sweet spot for the sensitivity but once you get it, it is pretty good

Right, but for Golden eye was back then using a N64 controller

[burnt moss]

My current suspicion is that trying to move the reticle diagonally takes too much thought. In order to move up and right I have to move the joystick down and right, which feels off.

But I am absolutely muddling through Exultia on ITYTD rn because I can’t aim well

[azure forum]

My biggest thing has always being that short time when you remove the thumb from the thumstick do press another button especially if you remove the one from the aim thumbstick, it can mess up your direction easily.

Also, after a good amount of testing, disabling aim assist really helps

On switch, I use:
100 Horizontal Sensitivity
50 Veritcal
100ms Precision delay time
100ms transcision delay time
90 smoothness

[burnt moss]

Precision and transition only apply to Joycons

[azure forum]

120ms WW timeout *if that matters

Right, that setting took me some testing to find the sweet spot

[burnt moss]

I’m on 95 smoothness but otherwise I already matched you

[burnt moss]

I mean I don’t have those two settings

[azure forum]

you use pro controller and docked, right?

[burnt moss]

Yes

I think aim assist is the only thing keeping me afloat here when it comes to arachnotron turrets

[azure forum]

I've been playing mostly handheld. I would need to try with a pro controller to see how it feels. It's been a while

[burnt moss]

If I remember joycon right, it’s mostly either on or off, but pro controller feels much more like n64 with a tall joystick and variable speeds. I keep making tiny adjustments with it but I’m either over or under correcting, and then the target is somewhere else entirely

[azure forum]

Yep that's what it comes down to. My aim wasn't very good before but playing battlemode as a slayer makes it extremely important.

Are you still using gyro?

[burnt moss]

No that’s the whole point here. I’m starting from scratch without gyro on the lowest difficulty to gradually improve my joystick aiming skill.

[azure forum]

That's interesting. I did that when trying Keyboard and mouse, and I think I got to cultists base struggling hard in ITYTD 😂

[burnt moss]

KM was harder for you???

[azure forum]

Yep. I've never played with KM.

[burnt moss]

Hey guys, did they patch out the 2 cacos right before the slayer gate?

In Exultia

[burnt moss]

Do you think I should turn off inverted or is this just a practice issue?

[azure forum]

Well, in my experience, I prefer to mess up one thing first and then go from there. If you are testing a new controller setup, don't turn on inverted - or off if ypu were using it before

[burnt moss]

Ok I’ll leave it this way then. I’m used to inverted. I think I did my first run that way. I switched to Gyro while playing 2016 a few times.

[azure forum]

Just keep the gyro if you like it. Use any controller setup that makes the game easier for you.

[burnt moss]

I’m going to buy an Xbox so I can finish mastering the game (by my definition). But it doesn’t have gyro. So I need to get my skill level up past NM to be able to beat all the master levels at NM.

I mean I need to get my skill level up without gyro or I’ll suck at Xbox

[azure forum]

I see. Understandable. Do you feel that's not possible on switch?

[azure oriole]

[burnt moss]

I had two MLs crash the other day. Even when they don’t they lag to the point of slow motion. My swaps don’t feel fast. SLOB doesn’t work (I know it works on Switch but by my analysis the LOB animation is broken on my device).

[azure forum]

Yeah I feel you. I beat all 3 master levels only in UN, and I haven't touched them since then. I've heard from others that they get laggy, and I my game did crash when playing TN ML on the last arena haha it wa definitely annoying. I also remember SGN getting slow in the big arena, but no crashes.

I can't imagine World Spear with all the crap that it has. I dont have the DLCs on switch

On the slob part, it does work. I do agree that the weapon wheel is kinda clunky if that makes sense. I think SLOBs is more about timing than the console itself.

[azure oriole]

true...

[burnt moss]

You play the DLCs on Stadia?

[azure forum]

Yep

I basically only play Battlemode on switch. I beat the game once just to get levels and the 3 master levels. That was it

[burnt moss]

Even LOB is slower on mine than in videos. It does the “Locked” reticle indication, and THEN the weapon itself swivels to prepare for LOB. I believe those two things should happen simultaneously which would make the whole function quicker.

[burnt moss]

Is Stadia 100% better than Xcloud then? Because Doom is unplayable on Xcloud.

[azure forum]

If I can somehow describe how Slobs works in my experience:
Use PB and switch weapon to Rocker Launcher, release the mod button and as soon as you switch to RL, fire a rocker, as you fire the rocket, hold the Mod button again (those two need to be done quick). I think it can be done with other weapons as well but I only use it with Pb

Good question. I don't know if stadia is better than xcloud. I've never used xcloud

[burnt moss]

I invested a couple hours into trying SLOB. I got all the advice from all sources and developed the muscle memory and especially where everyone agrees it is an easy combo, I must not be the problem.

And like I said, I believe my Switch is making the LOB process take longer which would break SLOB.

[azure forum]

Could be. I am not going to say no, but I don't know much about the full capabilities of the switch to be fair

[mossy nova]

turns out you can skip the cyber mancubusy stairs area via going to the outside and finding the side where the exit of the cyber mancubusy the back of the 2 second arena after the in building area (the one that has a robot hand) when you find it use pause boost it will boost you up and reach it and it wont even spawn the cacodemon and the arachnotron

[burnt moss]

Well the fact that one of the first Google results is “Doom Eternal on Switch is the most ambitious port ever” when people are playing Doom on receipt printers tells me to expect problems. That’s why I’m so keen to blame everything on the Switch.

[burnt moss]

There’s no cybers on Exultia. And I’m talking about the 2 cacos that spawn at the top of the platform after you boosterpad up from the lava. There’s armor on the platform.

[last hamlet]

Doom is 8 megabytes

[burnt moss]

Yeah but the point stands. You cram a nextgen game onto a glorified game boy and it might have some issues

[last hamlet]

I dont think the Gameboy has comparable specs to an xbox 360

[burnt moss]

It was an exaggeration. Are you arguing that the Switch is perfectly capable and the gameplay issues I’ve been experiencing are normal?

[last hamlet]

Am I arguing what

[burnt moss]

You seem to be arguing that the Nintendo Switch is not likely to have problems with a game like Eternal.

[last hamlet]

Of course it would

getting a modern console game to work perfectly fine on an aging handheld is bound to cause issues

[burnt moss]

Which is exactly what I was saying

[azure oriole]

Yep should be and even on pc the timing is different on 30 fps than framerate in hundreds.
The transition from pb - rocket - lob must be "smooth", the rocket must fire during bringup and lock on must follow immediately

[azure oriole]

Morning, doomchat.

[mossy nova]

evening slayers

[proven swift]

night slayers

[azure oriole]

best of midday

[crimson yarrow]

Here's an idea: what if the next game is a prequel showing how the slayer returned from hell after 2016?

[slow sigil]

That would be better as just a quick lorebook ngl

There isnt enough unanswered questions to warrent a game for THAT

[crimson yarrow]

I just think it would be cool to have a doom game set entirely in hell

[untold fern]

I'd like that too. I'm hoping there could be a DLC campaign that explains what happened after 2016 because it does change the plot very suddenly.

[slow sigil]

Still hopes for more dlc

[azure oriole]

personally I hope the next doom game hasn't anything to do with the sentinel storyline anymore, apart from maybe fleeting references
ID said TAG 2 would conclude the sentinel / slayer storyline and I hope to that they stick

It can happen without too much contradiction too as it can be assumed || Slayer lost his powers at the end of TAG 2 so reverted to being "just" doomguy again||

[mossy nova]

love craftian storyline

samur is transforming to a ctulu like creature

[azure oriole]

indie horror games have used that setting to death, personally not too keen on that either

also samur is part of sentinel storyline

[mossy nova]

samur is still alive

[azure oriole]

yes his fate is unclear but eh

[mossy nova]

if hes left alive he will transform