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marble pilot
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Just because they aren’t saying doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it

plucky tide
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i mean i have my own reasons for not using opera

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gx felt over the top

marble pilot
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Didn’t you say that you use mac?

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Or am I a schizo

plucky tide
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my pc broke, and i got a macbook last year

marble pilot
plucky tide
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Safari is good but is definitely not perfect

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imo the same goes for edge but edge has some underlying issues too

clear spade
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I have purchased the original doom

sweet skiff
keen fjord
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what a joke of a protoagonist XD

rustic shuttle
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Or just “hey hes the main character”

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Weirdly enough theres alot of cases when that question was raised. I remember seeing a debate about if Gordon Freeman used a helmet or not

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But then again this was 2005, the rule of cool was still strong

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No-helmet protagonists, yellow filter, metal and AMV’s

surreal rapids
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Guys

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Oh nvm

whole loom
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Im being destroyed by Dooms Inferno levels

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Especially E3M4

green summit
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started playing brazillian drug dealer 3 and i feel lobotomized now

sage field
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67

whole loom
sullen yarrow
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It's a game

sage field
south tundra
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I wish I found this place earlier

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Im on chapter 15 of Dark Ages rn

wise night
loud flame
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The only thing that destroyed me about doom inferno levels back then was them being confusing
Funny since I'm a survival horror player so I should be able to deal with that

inner nimbus
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Anyone got any good doom wads

white ice
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Ancient Aliens is really cool visually, but is also extremely tough on hurt me plenty or higher

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Doom Zero is also cool, it has a focus on puzzles, which is pretty unique for a Doom wad

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Eviternity has some neat medieval/fantasy vibes, I haven’t finished it though

inner nimbus
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cool stuff I really love the horror type stuff and sometimes some joke stuff from time to times

jagged bronze
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RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE

plucky tide
uncut dagger
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Hey everyone, Painkiller is half price right now, and they are also working on a setting to disable co-op bots so you can just play singleplayer. Totally worth the buy, this is basically the most fun you can have in an FPS game that wasn’t made by ID Software

jagged bronze
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Wyd rn I'm bored asf

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Dose eny of you have the Xbox game where you get doom 1993 and doom 2 in the same bundle for like 10 bucks just asking BC it's pretty fun

green zodiac
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I just used wadfusion

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I have no regrets. Now I can use brutal doom on other episodes without quitting.

harsh plinth
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hi i played doom once

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worst best experience of my life

green zodiac
harsh plinth
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it was one of the older doom games. i think it was called Eternal or something

thorn egret
harsh plinth
thorn egret
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only old people play Eternal

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"back in my day, we had to do glory kills ta get sum health, pretty fukin badass, while you yungins have ta search around the map, talk bout lame"

plucky tide
plucky tide
uncut dagger
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If you like DOOM you will like Painkiller, plain and simple

jagged bronze
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Can enyone gift me nitro I'm broke ash

eager frost
plucky tide
green zodiac
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"back in my day, we had to scour the map to get a scrap of health back. Pretty badass, right? Nowadays, all you youngins need to do is preform your fancy glory kills. Phooey."

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And yes, the phooey was nessecary

viral brook
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what is the best doom game in yalls opinions

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I think tda is pretty peak

stoic flax
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Doom 2. Not the base game cause the levels suck. But the core of the game plus community wads is goat.

viral brook
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yeah 2 is pretty peak ngl

thorn egret
green zodiac
green zodiac
green zodiac
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I really want to like it, but the levels feel so... bleh.

viral brook
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I cant even fricking run tda my pc is lagging so hard at only 12 fps average 💀

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my gpu should be able to run it at 60+ but no ofc not

green zodiac
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try tweaking a few settings

viral brook
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what settings help with fps?

green zodiac
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I'm not super sure

ripe girder
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Is your cpu and ram up to par?

viral brook
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im running ryzen 7600 cpu and radeon rx 7600 gpu with 16G ddr5

green zodiac
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Sounds like it should be working

viral brook
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im running all quality at the lowest

ripe girder
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Verify file integrity through steam

green zodiac
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Is anything else on your pc using your memory?

ripe girder
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Also check discord overlay isn't on

green zodiac
viral brook
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only discord

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does the overlay cook your proformance?

green zodiac
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It screws with some games

ripe girder
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A lot of people have said it does

viral brook
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here let me try it now

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kay looking good so far

green zodiac
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Your specs are pretty good for TDA

viral brook
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I think it was the overlay cause its lwk fixed now

ripe girder
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Yeah overlay seems to murder some games for some reason performance wise

green zodiac
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I don't like the overlay. It always messes with my emulators.

viral brook
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yeah

ripe girder
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I play on consoles so its a bit more plug and play

viral brook
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I also turned on amds frame generator for more frames so hopefully my frames do look like im tryna play battlefeild 6 on a ps1

green zodiac
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BF6... on a PS1?

ripe girder
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I cant wait for tda switch 2 port

viral brook
green zodiac
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That would be funny to see

viral brook
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yeah the cutscenes were dropping fps to like 3 fps 💀

ripe girder
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Cinematic experience

viral brook
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shit looked like a slideshow presention

warm comet
viral brook
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type

ripe girder
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Imo that isn't a valid reason

warm comet
ripe girder
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Doom 2 because mods

So its your favorite because you can make it totally different

viral brook
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I lwk love how similar doom and ultra kill are XD

ripe girder
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I mean the highly modifiable Ness of it is indeed super nice this is true but then it stops being doom 2

warm comet
viral brook
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XD

ripe girder
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I couldn't really get into ultrakill. I tried a bit but idk it didn't hook me

viral brook
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its like classic doom but better graphics and differnt levels and ultra kill is more religous

ripe girder
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Have you tried prodeus

stoic flax
ripe girder
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Its whatever wad it is

viral brook
ripe girder
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Ye

tropic scroll
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i want doom guy so bad

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all i had to say

uncut dagger
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Ready for launch, Doomguy

tropic scroll
stoic flax
viral brook
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I acidently rest my graphics setting now my fps shitted on itself again :<<<

ripe girder
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Damn

viral brook
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I think I fixed it again though

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had to restart the game after I re did my settings

ripe girder
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Prodeus is like classic and doom 2016 combined. Key hunting sprawling levels but 2016 action

uncut dagger
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It’s pretty good, might be top 10 FPS material

viral brook
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I gave my self the good old frame gen properly tho

plucky tide
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tda is my runner up

obtuse vessel
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how pissed would you be if I said doom RPG for flipphones is my favorite doom game

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like it's not but what would the reaction be

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anyways it's doom 64

ripe girder
obtuse vessel
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the perfect middle ground between the classic doom I love and the modern doom that has much better graphics and more complex gameplay

ripe girder
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One of my favorites is Doom resurrection

obtuse vessel
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it's not bad it's just a weird entry

astral mortar
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It takes so long to find a lobby in battle mode at night 😭

plucky tide
obtuse vessel
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To be fair I play the classic doom games with vertical camera movement on so my opinion is invalid

minor rapids
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just got back from watching iron lung for the second time

delicate ravine
prime sand
minor rapids
plucky tide
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has anyone here played watch dogs legion

green summit
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its hard to say which doom game is the best when all of them are so different in their own right

cunning iris
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DOOM 3 top tier The End

green summit
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except for like 1 2 final doom and 64 which are usually bundled together anyway

cunning iris
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Wait are you ranking individual games or eras, cause I don't see people bundle all those in as one game ever

green summit
cunning iris
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What, that all the classic games (plural being important here) are all under one channel?

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The question was what is the best game singular. If your response is "all the classic games at once" then you are not even answering it right to begin with
"Classic games" is not a game

flint echo
plucky tide
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im playing pathfinder wrath of the righteous after like a week or so of hogwarts legacy

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still love the turn based gameplay

flint echo
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Haha I got half way through and my laptop exploded

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Great game

plucky tide
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i like it a lot more than the other crpgs ive played

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dos2, wastelands technically, and rogue trader

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i might pick up rogue trader again later, just depends

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i loved dos2's design but hated the progression feeling confusing

flint echo
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Haven’t tried rogue trader, or looked at it. What’s the vibe?

plucky tide
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its warhammer, apparently its really easy but I didn't jibe with it so well

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i will try it more once I get so far in pathfinder

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it also does not run well on my handheld pc

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so im kinda inclined to put it on the backburner till i get it on ps5 or something

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right now im not too impressed with the crpg genre but i think it'll get better if i play other games

river kelp
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I've been working my WL6 project FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS NOW

pine delta
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Nintendo went through the effort of translating a japanese exclusive virtual boy game into english for the Nintendo switch online release but they still wont translate mother 3😔

delicate ravine
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probably some legal issue

tepid summit
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Nah
They just decided they won’t do it

pine delta
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They know earthbound is a cult classic and they know how much everyone wants mother 3 in English officially they just wont do it

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The only reason mother 1 got released was because the scrapped localization from 1990 was already completely finished but by the time it was set to come out the SNES was out

whole loom
whole loom
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The puzzle parts get confusing

hybrid mirage
delicate ravine
placid peak
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G’day folks! hope all havin a great week 🤙🏻

little falcon
thorn egret
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i've still yet to watch it

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win me over so that i would watch it

ripe skiff
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Everytime I hear news for doom it gets so confusing, I read in Twitter that there would be a stream this Wednesday but I couldn't find anything

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What I could find was id software 35 aniversary week, so idk

obtuse canopy
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doom evercade confirmed

little falcon
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I still don't really know what that means.

delicate ravine
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evercade seems to be a company that sells devices that emulate old games

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I don't see what the appeal would be to have that for Doom

little falcon
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Ohhhh I see.

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Man I wish those Duke Nukem remasters were on other platforms.

prime sand
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peak

rancid scarab
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they should announce the dlc

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trailer coming trust

cinder rapids
urban aurora
sullen yarrow
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Quake reboot discussion? Pass the copium

urban aurora
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here you go mate

sullen yarrow
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Thank you

woven dawn
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We NEED more quake games

sullen yarrow
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Hey @little falcon I know you feel strongly about FNaF's storytelling and lore, but what about the gameplay itself?

green summit
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quake dlc for tda where you play as quakeguy

little falcon
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FNAF 1 has a great atmosphere and vibe and it had some novel ideas, but the mechanics are too simple to push them to their limit. FNAF 2 over-complicates the enemies yet also keeps them all braindead simple - having 10 enemies of which 8 of them you deal with the same way is really repetitive.

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FNAF 3 is a lot better in that regard.

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FNAF 4 I think is probably the best of those games in terms of gameplay and horror. The vibe is immaculate. One of the only horror games that genuinely terrifies me.

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I've mentioned it before, but I'm in the process of making a game now and it's inspired by a lot of FNAF's gameplay. I've played a bunch of FNAF fangames and have felt for a long time that they've gone further in pushing these gameplay designs to their limit, but still haven't reached the top. With my own game we've been really wanting to innovate on those ideas - much longer nights, limited saves per night, hallucination mechanics tied to lighting, a weapon to (temporarily) fight back against enemies but with limited ammo - essentially a merger of FNAF-style "sit and survive" horror and Resident Evil style survival horror.

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I don't mean to just shill my game, but the point is, I actually think this topic is really interesting and FNAF's gameplay systems IMO are an untapped market I've had on my mind for a long time.

green summit
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every day i pray for the joy of creation to get released

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well namely the version on steam

sullen yarrow
green summit
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the fnaf games ended at sister location i dont care about any other ones that come after that

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except for maybe pizzeria sim

sullen yarrow
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I care for the ones up to SB, and then ItP. Rest just flew by me. Never cared to play them

green summit
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fnaf games after that point have just felt like stretching a story that was never really that deep way too much and the gameplay just didnt evolve much if at all

sullen yarrow
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What do you mean the gameplay didn't evolve

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HW started flipping the game around and SB just threw it upside down

green summit
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i mean it evolved but i wouldnt consider it to be like a direct evolution from the previous games

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mostly like completely different gameplay

sullen yarrow
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Moving goalposts

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Saying that it didn't feel like a direct evolution to the older gameplay isn't the same as saying they just straight up did not evolve

green summit
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i mean evolving would be like if it still was similar

sullen yarrow
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Not evolving would be if they were identical

green summit
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they less evolved and more just got switched out for something else entirely

green summit
sullen yarrow
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You didn't say similiar either...

green summit
sullen yarrow
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Ah okay I thought you were referring to your original statement

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Yes I know you didn't say identical, that doesn't matter though

misty ridge
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did we not have this exact convo like 2 months ago bruh

sullen yarrow
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FNaF is a big franchise, this type of convo is gonna repeat itself

little falcon
# sullen yarrow That was a cool read, thanks man. I think FNaF 1 pulls off terror really well, I...

SB is genuinely a difficult game to properly judge the gameplay of because the game refuses to work so often you only get a proper representation of the game's mechanics for maybe half the game. Generally speaking SB is frustrating for me because the game has a lot of potential it doesn't utilize on account of its disastrous development cycle. Steel Wool could have substantially improved the game with post-launch updates but refused to.

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I do have other thoughts on the gameplay but need a minute.

sullen yarrow
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I didn't play the game on release so I have no idea what it was like, but I am happy with it in its current state. It might be my favorite one

misty ridge
little falcon
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From a gameplay perspective I think Help Wanted, FNAF 4, and Secret of the Mimic are the best ones. SOTM isn't particularly unique or revolutionary, but unlike SB it all consistently works.

little falcon
little falcon
sullen yarrow
# little falcon SB was my favorite one for a long time - for me it was a thing of "this game's f...

I think SB is the best up to that point with plot. Lore? Sure, objectively garbage, but I learned long ago that I enjoy these games more if I filter the lore out. Gameplaywise I think it's awesome. Not sure what you mean by general framework, and I also did not encounter glitches on my runs, and I have 100% achievements. I only really dislike the FNaF 1 remake segment and the maze alignment shit with Monty, but I love the game otherwise. I did not care for RUIN

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(Also, off-topic, but you asked me about the ideal way to play Rayman 2 a bit ago. A remaster of an unknown Rayman game got its age rating a bit ago, and since the Direct is tomorrow, we might see it there. Could be Rayman 2 for all we know.)

little falcon
# sullen yarrow I think SB is the best up to that point with **plot**. **Lore**? Sure, objective...

By the framework I generally mean how the animatronics work, how the Pizzaplex flows together, and how the game throws challenges at you. It feels like the game lacks much of a difficulty climb - in fact a lot of the more difficult sections IMO are earlier on, like the Daycare Attendant shit, with the only late game challenges off the top of my head being Monty's boss fight, the DJ Music Man sequence (the best in the game IMO) and Burntrap's fight... except Burntrap's fight has been literally broken for me every time I've played the game, forcing me to cheese it to get to the end.

I'd have to literally, like, write an essay to get all of my thoughts out. But I will say I think SB generally is paced very poorly, and feels more like a bunch of half-baked ideas for setpieces cobbled together haphazardly. Which makes sense, because it is - we know from developer statements that the original SB was going to be very different, with a real-time clock and a very open map allowing you to choose your own objective, find out different ways to escape, and decide how much you want to investigate. They were forced to scrap this due to technical shit, so the final game is a lot of those ideas rearranged into a linear game.

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I will say that when it works, SB's gameplay is generally fine IMO. Kind of like a kid's version of Outlast, which I can vibe with. My main criticisms unrelated to the plot, lore, or bugs:

  • Vanny should've been way more present and way more unique.
  • Checking cameras is clunky and only really useful in a handful of circumstances.
  • Distractions, like the mechanic, are largely useless IMO outside of the Daycare Attendant sequence.
  • In the final version, Gregory's running speed was buffed to match RUIN, and it's arguably overpowered. It's way too easy to outrun animatronics, I think.
  • The lack of save points after 6 is unbearable.
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I also just wanna say I do genuinely get why you like SB so much. I loved it on release and even now I will still defend a decent amount of it, mainly the setting and characters. My thoughts now have come after a lot of cumulative bullshit making me look back on it a bit differently.

sullen yarrow
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The game's original vision sounds a lot more appealing, I do also remember being dissapointed that what we got was not like what was shown to us. However, I won't let that detract for my love for the game. You make very good points and I really can't counter most of them, but I just adore the game. I understand feeling any other way seeing as it's, well, Security Breach, but imo the game is an S tier in the series, easily

little falcon
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Most of my favorite things aren't really perfect, they're deeply flawed pieces of media that nail a specific amount of things that make them incredibly interesting in spite of their flaws.

sweet skiff
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Only me think that gregory plot twist in ruin and in ggy doesn't work?

sullen yarrow
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Do you think HW2 and SoTM are worth the 45 dollar price point, btw? I haven't got them yet because HW2 looks like an average minigame collection and SoTM looks like Poppy Playtime

little falcon
sullen yarrow
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I'm on Xbox so no VR. My favorite parts of HW were the up-close repairs and 1-3 remakes so HW2 might not satisfy me

little falcon
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SOTM is genuinely a good game IMO. I haven't played Poppy Playtime, so I can't comment on that comparison, but I'd say SOTM is overall the best FNAF game simply because it's structured pretty well and feels like Steel Wool learned their lesson with SB. There's less a focus on a ton of different ambitious half-baked ideas and more just a focus on evading the Mimic, who has some genuinely neat gimmicks, with some setpieces with other robots.

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Story-wise SOTM is a very sound, decent, well-done story. Especially on its own. Things fall apart, though, when you try to make it mesh with the other games, especially because SOTM adapts one of the short stories from the books, and in the process seemed to completely wipe the canon clean of the short story books people have been invested in for like half a decade.

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But if you're more concerned about the gameplay, SOTM is a serviceable, decent, relatively scary game.

sullen yarrow
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I should reiterate by Poppy Playtime I mean less the gameplay (which from the trailers looked more like HN2) and moreso the vibes. I know they have to innovate at some point, but none of the original crew members being the focus this time makes the game feel a lot more generic, and that's where the Poppy Playtime comparison draws in

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I also just don't really care about the Mimic because I did not care about RUIN, so the game's main premise is automatically kinda meh to me :p

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I'll judge it more in-depth once I play it, but it's at 45 bucks which is a lot for this series. There's games for that money I could buy that I already know I'd love

little falcon
# sullen yarrow I also just don't really care about the Mimic because I did not care about RUIN,...

SOTM basically is "Mimic: The Game." It is the sole antagonist of like 90% of it. I think SOTM makes a good case for why the Mimic is a cool enemy gameplay-wise, because there's a great dynamic here where there are mascot suits littering the place, unless you have been keeping track of the Mimic's whereabouts it could be in any of them, waiting until your guard is dropped to jump up and start looking for you. It's much faster than any of the enemies in SB, it's wearing a different suit every time you see it (with it acting differently in some of them), and it's more attentive than the Glamrocks.

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SOTM barely ties into Ruin at all, though, since it's a prequel in the 70s.

little falcon
sullen yarrow
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Oh yeah I got to see a lot of spoilers unfortunately so I know about things like that. I just mean, like, effectively what you said; this is a Mimic game more than a FNaF game, if that makes sense

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I hate to be so negative about a game I'm yet to play but it just does not look that appealing to me, I'd like Freddy in my Freddy game

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I do want to be fair to it and still give it a try someday. HW2 I probably will not buy unless it goes on sale (which it never does on Xbox) because it looks really bad

little falcon
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I really like that stuff personally, but like everything else FNAF handles it in a middling way that fails to reach its potential. The Mimic in SOTM is practically a different character from how it was in Ruin, or in the Tales books, or Glitchtrap.

sullen yarrow
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I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I thought both times we got sci-fi focused games, so SL and SB, it was awesome

little falcon
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SL is one of FNAF's best plots, but I don't care for the gameplay.

sullen yarrow
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There's an argument to be made that it's a lot less scary to have just smart robots instead of possessed robots, but I think with SB in particular it also works because of the security breach in question; you, the player, get to hear constantly about how they were not always like this and it is kind of scary to think about being one of them, going from a normal functioning 'thing' to a mindless murder machine. However I think this is hardly explored in the game, as Freddy never really cares much about his friends' fates other than like, three lines of dialogue, and since Gregory is a kid, he obviously won't think about the moral dilemma of whether destroying them is the good thing to do or not

sullen yarrow
little falcon
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I like what's there! I just wish the game had more gameplay than two nights.

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(No, Night 4 doesn't count. It sucks.)

sullen yarrow
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Night 4 is alright

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I often see people say it's the hardest part of the game, aside from Ennard and 10/20, but I got it down in like two or three tries. I think putting the code into Baby's keypad is much harder but that's because I'm on controller :p

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Gameplay-wise it gets me stressed which is the clear intention, so that's a good thing, but it's not really engaging past that. Just wind wind wind

little falcon
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I wouldn't say it's the hardest. Just boring.

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For me it's just that there's no gameplay in Night 1, and no gameplay in Night 5 except a non-canon bad end, which is cool except it's super hard and whenever you die you get sent back 8 minutes before it starts to Baby's dumbass keypad again.

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SL is very impressive for the engine and it uses those things to tell its story and be more dynamic really well. But I think that doesn't necessarily translate to consistently scary and fun gameplay.

sullen yarrow
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No gameplay in night 1 is true but I wouldn't hold it against the game, I think it's good to not instantly spring you into madness. Makes the horror hit harder

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I think FFPS is the most mindless one of them all

main socket
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Chat

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Quick question

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Which game should I buy next

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Or

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Wolfenstein

sullen yarrow
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Which Wolfenstein

main socket
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The Two Pack (TOB & TNO)

sullen yarrow
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Absolutely the latter. Love TDA but TNO is borderline perfect

uncut dagger
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Obviously DOOM The Dark Ages if you’re craving some peak FPS as soon as possible

white ice
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Or both if you can afford it

uncut dagger
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Well I think he said which one next

sullen yarrow
uncut dagger
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Tower of Babel

sullen yarrow
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It's from the Bible, that's where the most famous telling lies

uncut dagger
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Wouldn’t know

main socket
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I'm probably gonna try out the Wolf games next since they are cheaper when on discount

sullen yarrow
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Enjoy

uncut dagger
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Saving the peak for last then

sullen yarrow
delicate ravine
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good choice

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The New Order really is something else

main socket
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Unless I change my mind and try out something like Terminator Resistance or Robocop Rogue City instead

delicate ravine
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havent played either, but I know New Order is great

sullen yarrow
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TDA is a really fun game, TNO is a really fun experience

main socket
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I have purchased the Doomicorn

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It's time

delicate ravine
sullen yarrow
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Well yeah I did say really fun

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The comparison is like, TDA was awesome, but it didn't leave me impacted like TNO did

delicate ravine
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even ignoring the story/characters, its real fun to play

sullen yarrow
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Experience is a higher term than game imo so me describing TNO as a really fun experience is a good thing

willow trail
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which is better DOOM + DOOM II or Doom Classic Complete?

delicate ravine
limpid lava
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@little falcon about SB

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the Burntrap ending has that big ending cutscene sure but also notably Princess Quest was the only one to continue a thread from HW and was the only ending to have a 3 star rating

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Also a lot of things you listed weren’t retcons and more so confusing

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Frights/Tales for example aren’t really retconned they were just always an alternate continuity and therefore Scott’s wording is odd but like what we found has existed for half a decade

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UCN hasn’t even been retconned cause the series hasn’t touched on it since so (outside of potentially it ending at some point which isn’t really a retcon as that would just take place after UCN)

little falcon
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I wouldn't say Princess Quest was the only one. The Burntrap ending has the Mimic fashioned to, well, mimic Afton, something Glitchtrap was doing. The Burntrap ending felt like it was revealing what Glitchtrap's plans were.

I just do not see a world where Burntrap's ending wasn't meant to be the true ending. It's the only one that bothers to feel even slightly like a climax to the story. I always saw the stars to mean how "good" the ending was, rather than how true it was.

limpid lava
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I guess but still the 3 stars being unique to one ending is kind of notable

little falcon
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Well, they were unique to the most "good" ending. You save Vanessa.

limpid lava
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Also apparently they just randomly made burntrap ending have the 3d cutscene like that was the Wool so

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I think the intent was always PQ3 was canon at least in Scott’s mind

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I think Henry designing the original Fazbear crew is the only actual thing I’d count as an honest to god retcon in your list other than SAVEHIM but SAVEHIM is like incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things to the point where it’d be weird to point to it as a huge writing flaw

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Mike Afton and Schmidt is odd of course but right now it seems to only apply to the films and I think counting alternate continuities as retcons is pretty harsh and by that logic I could start using doom 2005 and annihilation

little falcon
# limpid lava Frights/Tales for example aren’t really retconned they were just always an alter...

There are two options here.

  1. Frights/Tales were originally tying into the games' continuity, but were retconned out and instead are alternate, irrelevant stories. Scott's just changed his mind about them, and he's a moron.
  2. Frights/Tales were never meant to be canon, they were always irrelevant to the games' continuity beyond vague concepts. Scott was just fucking lying when he said what he said, so he's a moron and a liar.

(There's a third option: that the books are still canon, but the fine details are up in the air to be revised because the series is more concerned with broad strokes than anything, somewhat like Resident Evil. This is the ideal option, which is why it probably isn't true.)

Neither of these are good. One is bad and the other is worse. Either way it's absolutely terrible franchise management.

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I’d probably go with 2* because What We Found exists

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And I don’t necessarily think Scott is lying with 2

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He said you can use them to help you solve the games but he never actually said they were canon

little falcon
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Because literally all of it could've been avoided by Scott bothering to give an explicit answer to the question people had been asking for actual years. I find it hard to believe he didn't know this was a point of contention - I personally think it is deliberate obfuscation. But if it isn't that's not much better. Either he deliberately lies to string you along, or he's genuinely just an idiot and doesn't know what words mean.

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"Are the short story books canon?"

  • Yes
  • No
  • Eh, some of them are.
  • Yeah, sort of, but some small details might not align since I had people write them for me.

He could definitely have just picked one of these and said them.

limpid lava
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Yeah true but WWF has existed for a while

little falcon
# limpid lava Yeah true but WWF has existed for a while

What We Found IMO doesn't contradict that third option. Again, like, Resident Evil logic. "It's a different take on the same events. Both of them work as canon." There are a few different series that acknowledge canon but willfully focus more on broad continuity than specific details - FNAF doing so wouldn't surprise me, if anything it'd be more reasonable than the shit he's doing now.

Plus, Scott's dogshit managing with SB tells me that he has likely been very hands off with basically, like, most projects that didn't have him specifically making them. It's been a sentiment by some for a long time that contradictions between the books and the games could very well just be accidental as a result of Scott letting the author fill in the blanks of a summary he asked them to write.

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i.e. "whoa, SOTM has Edwin's wife alive after David's born? But she died during childbirth in The Mimic!" Yeah, but both versions have Edwin's wife die; for all we know, the author of The Mimic was given a guideline explaining Edwin and David's backstory as having a wife/mother who died before the events of the story, and the author had to fill in those gaps themselves. Just like Steel Wool had to with the majority of SB.

limpid lava
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I think it would be fairly odd for both 3 and WWF to both be canon especially since the protagonists have different fates and the building doesn’t even burn

limpid lava
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I think it would be like legitimately impossible to accidentally write Fiona dying in childbirth

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Especially since that’s mentioned in The Storyteller which was written BEFORE The Mimic

little falcon
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I'd also just like to point out that a common theory for a long time was that not all of the short stories are canon; just the ones that connect to the main plotline. That was a valid and understandable theory and one that cleanly would explain What We Found's place in the series.

limpid lava
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Once you realise the connections go Stingers -> ITP -> Kids at Play -> The Puppet Carver it starts to seem like they’re all clearly connected (which they were)

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Also you frequently accuse Hugo of lying or making shit up so I’m not sure how Scott being weird about his wording is exactly different to Doom to you

little falcon
# limpid lava I think it would be like legitimately impossible to accidentally write Fiona dyi...

I'd say it's about as impossible as Steel Wool not being told what the story of their own game was, told to put easter eggs in the game without context for what they mean, so when they see that there's supposed to be a decrepit Springtrap lookalike in there as an easter egg they assume it's meant to be the main villain and create an entire final boss section referencing a different game and recontextualizing the events of the game, only for that entire thing to be retconned away as made-up bullshit drawn by a child once Scott actually started talking to them.

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i.e. only impossible if the franchise manager knows what he's doing.

little falcon
# limpid lava Also you frequently accuse Hugo of lying or making shit up so I’m not sure how S...

The main difference here is that Hugo Martin's answers are ineffectual at most, and Doom's focus is not on lore and storytelling. When Hugo gives a stupid answer to a random powerscaler asking if the Slayer can slurp up Argent Energy off the ground to increase his muscle mass, this doesn't affect how a substantial amount of Doom's fans see the narrative, and it doesn't paint how a significant amount of stories in the franchise will be seen for the next half-decade.

limpid lava
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The game was meant to be only survival mode and then they changed it to story mode late in development which indicates burntrap got so fucked up cause steel wool hastily needed a final boss

limpid lava
little falcon
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FNAF is popular because of this shit. He knows full well that FNAF's story, putting it together, trying to understand what's going on, accounts for like half of why this franchise even got past the first few games at all. It is the primary focus of the story. Scott giving us complete misinformation causing us to falsely put stock into like two dozen installments in the series for the next half-decade is a much bigger deal.

little falcon
# limpid lava And what about doomguy being a primeval destined to be super powerful

Same thing. Hugo Martin could literally "confirm" the Slayer is actually Davoth from the past time traveling to the future and Hayden was actually a swarm of bees inside a robot chassis, and it still wouldn't change what I'm saying. Doom's a fundamentally different franchise; it didn't make its fortune and garner its audience via its focus on lore and storytelling. The majority of Doom fans don't seem to give a shit about the story anyway; the majority of FNAF fans who aren't under 13 years old do care about its story.

limpid lava
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“doom’s owners can do whatever and the lore can be as fucked up as possible because it doesn’t matter” isn’t exactly the glowing endorsement we started with

little falcon
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I'd say it is definitely misinfo, whether Scott intended it or not. His words in that Reddit post straight up do not reflect the reality of the books and their role in this series under what SOTM seems to have done to them.

limpid lava
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did they not still get used to solve blanks of the lore

little falcon
# limpid lava “doom’s owners can do whatever and the lore can be as fucked up as possible beca...

I'm not saying I'd excuse this. I'd be fucking livid, and I'm frequently frustrated by some of the things Hugo says. But when Hugo does that shit all he does is cause some mildly frustrating misinformation among a niche subset of Doom's community, pissing off like a few hundred really autistic Doom fans like myself who care inordinately about an aspect of the series that has never really been the main focus. When Scott does it he misleads like 2/3rds of his entire fandom into buying books they wouldn't have if he hadn't said that, and dedicating their time to trying to solve puzzles with pieces not meant for them.

little falcon
# limpid lava did they not still get used to solve blanks of the lore

I mean, no. All it did is cause new theories to be made, some of which are more widely-accepted than others. If these stories are not set in the games' continuity then any info they give us is about as reliable as ||Michael and Mike being two separate people|| in the FNAF 2 movie. Scott has given us absolutely no guideline or legend as to what we should be paying attention to and what we shouldn't be.

limpid lava
little falcon
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How am I supposed to be able to tell if anything in Dittophobia is supposed to be relevant to or solve anything in FNAF 4, a game it seems to be heavily tying into, when the series has happily contradicted other stories that tie into the games, and the movie adaptation of FNAF 2 barely resembles the game it's adapting?

limpid lava
little falcon
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All they actually seem to do is artificially force more puzzle pieces into the puzzle box, except they all look the same so you can't tell what you're supposed to try to fit in and what you're supposed to discard, and you didn't even know how many puzzle pieces were in the box to begin with.

little falcon
limpid lava
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Yeah but still so few people were buying them that a well respected community member could just lie about the content of them

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Also saying that UCN was entirely retconned is like just a lie

little falcon
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I definitely think it was retconned. TMIR1280's entire, like, DNA screams out to you "THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CUSTOM NIGHT STORY!!!" which recontextualizes a lot of what you'd think UCN is about. If SOTM has retconned these stories to mean nothing then that also retcons what UCN was.

limpid lava
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Wouldn’t be retcons tho…

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Anything in frights that was about UCN if it applies to UCN would just be what UCN was always about

sullen yarrow
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Guys I think SuripyCap might agree with m0no idk tho just a guess

marble pilot
limpid lava
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fish react this user

marble pilot
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M0no is just right on the money right now

limpid lava
marble pilot
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I know stuff

little falcon
# limpid lava Anything in frights that was about UCN if it applies to UCN would just be what U...

By this logic then we can just kind of say nothing's a retcon, because whatever the original statement was, it was just wrong and it's the new thing that is the True Explanation. (Until the next new thing, then that thing is the True Explanation and this one's wrong.)
TMIR1280 changes UCN from an epilogue to the original story to essentially a prologue to Frights. Like literally everyone thought UCN happens in the afterlife until TMIR1280, not to mention its impact on the debate about The One You Should Not Have Killed.

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Like, Andrew's a big element of this. Because TMIR1280 says that fucking kid is Andrew.

limpid lava
little falcon
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But if TMIR1280 actually doesn't mean shit, then who is the kid? We barely have any evidence there is an Andrew in the games beyond vague references to an extra gravestone in a couple minigames.

marble pilot
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If it pisses M0no off I can stop

little falcon
marble pilot
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I hit enter too fast lmao

ivory ravine
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what in the yap

limpid lava
little falcon
# limpid lava Ok that prologue statement shouldn’t count as a retcon that would just mean any ...

My point isn't specifically with the prologue thing, but that TMIR1280 recontextualizes basically all of the context surrounding UCN. UCN itself didn't have anything saying that Afton's actually still alive, being kept alive in a hospital by his victim, and that said victim (or Eleanor? A bit foggy here) was terrorizing the staff there, and that Afton actually escapes this situation, going on to cause the deaths of dozens more people thanks to Andrew's bullshit revenge plot.

limpid lava
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We know now that Frights was just not canonical and irregardless Andrew or Cassidy being TOYSNHK wouldn’t be a retcon it’d just be the original poorly communicated intent

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“UCN itself didn’t have anything saying that Afton’s actually still alive” so we’re just lying now

little falcon
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Nowhere in UCN is it implied Afton is laying in a hospital bed after the events of FFPS.

limpid lava
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The rest of that is Frights which wasn’t canon

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And even if it was tmir1280 would take place after UCN

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UCN is implied to be happening at the fire site which we know frights William was taken out of

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But it’s not so it doesn’t matter

marble pilot
main socket
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Both Premium Edition of Doom The Dark Ages and Wolfenstein The Two Pack are on Discount

limpid lava
main socket
limpid lava
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There are like several voice lines saying he’s alive

sullen yarrow
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Get the two pack it's more bang for your buck

little falcon
# limpid lava We know now that Frights was just not canonical and irregardless Andrew or Cassi...

To me there's barely a difference here. Either Scott retconned a ton of things and thus rendered, technically, over half the franchise irrelevant when it previously wasn't, or he misled fans into believing that entire part of the franchise was relevant and canon, saw that people were confused and wanted to know more (since we know he often checked the Reddit and whatnot) and deliberately chose not to elaborate, until eventually half a decade later those people would get a game showing them that the details in the books mean nothing.

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marble pilot
main socket
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Might add 40 dollars to my acc just to get both

sullen yarrow
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I think a better question would be to ask for examples

little falcon
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Like. You're getting hung up on my usage of the word "retcon," but my point is even if these aren't technically retcons that doesn't make me any happier about it. Either way, you essentially waste your time trying to invest thought and care into the series because the creator either changes entire aspects of the continuity on a whim, or he barely puts any thought into it to begin with and is happy leading entire swaths of the community into misinterpreting his story for years on end.

Both of these things are worse than what Doom has done.

marble pilot
little falcon
# marble pilot Source?

Hoovy is correct that several voice lines imply the player is either 1) alive and now dead after getting jumpscared, or 2) is being kept alive by the kid.

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But also these are very vague conclusions, and IMO UCN doesn't give you enough context to draw a specific conclusion, because that second thing can mean "Afton's soul is being kept from passing on," or it can mean "he's still alive in his body and dreaming this stuff."

limpid lava
# marble pilot Source?

“You won’t die, but you’ll wish you could”
“We’ve only just begun, I will never let you leave, I will never let you rest”
“He tried to release you, he tried to release us, but I’m not going to let that happen, I will hold you here, I will keep you here, no matter how many times they burn us”

limpid lava
sullen yarrow
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All of those sound like they're talking about the events of UCN itself and not Afton being alive

little falcon
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UCN's voice lines imply a lot of things. TMIR1280 gave you context to make more sense of its story. Actually no it didn't, it's completely unrelated. Thanks for the money, see you when the next book comes out.

limpid lava
hardy flare
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Do you guys think the slayer is strong enough to take on the IRS? XD

little falcon
sullen yarrow
limpid lava
marble pilot
sullen yarrow
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I never interpreted it as like, Afton being let go from this half-alive half-dead scenario. I thought it was just them ceasing to torture the guy

little falcon
limpid lava
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like you guys are aware Henry’s definition of release was “get those fuckers out of the animatronics” right

marble pilot
little falcon
limpid lava
limpid lava
little falcon
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Okay, I misread what you meant then.

marble pilot
limpid lava
limpid lava
sullen yarrow
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Well this is why I rarely show up to these kinds of discussions, back to lurking

limpid lava
# sullen yarrow ...ah

also the fact that they can be burned is like kind of evidence they’re still in the physical realm

little falcon
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But my point stands: when we get to the nitty gritty, the majority of your explanations here aren't answers or solutions - they're theories, of varying levels of acceptance from the wider community. Those theories seeming obvious or blatant doesn't make them any less likely of being thrown out the window when the next game comes out. It wouldn't be the first time.

limpid lava
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obviously you could go “it’s some type of metaphorical burning that somehow also goes against Henry wanting them to not be on earth anymore” but then like that’s not even a different theory you’re kind of like willingly stretching

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like I could just make up alternate explanations for Doom 2016’s codexes and say they got retconned but like if one of the interpretations continued into Eternal that was probably just the correct one

bronze widget
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I am enjoying doom eternal

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I used to be worried that i won’t like the cartoonish artstyle

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Istill sont but its mot that joticeable when im having such a blast with the meathook

main socket
limpid lava
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wya in the game rn

main socket
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Also Doomicorn

bronze widget
main socket
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So it's already confirmed to be peak

bronze widget
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How do i get gun skins

main socket
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Just by having it in the game

limpid lava
bronze widget
main socket
sullen yarrow
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I have an absolutely disastrous inside joke with my IRL friend group about unicorns, every time I see one it's the most hilarious shit ever even if it's not meant to be

bronze widget
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Only complaint ngl is that i cant just spam my favourite gun like i could in 2016 :(

woven dawn
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When did the Doom discord server become a FNaF lore server lol

main socket
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Idk

little falcon
bronze widget
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Is there a place where i could see all skins before getting them

main socket
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Although I forgot where you access them

obtuse canopy
main socket
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Maybe when you enter your save slot

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There should be a milestone or challenge button

marble pilot
sullen yarrow
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Screenreader

marble pilot
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Ah

green zodiac
dreamy canopy
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is it really impossible to play doom tda WITHOUT ray tracing?

buoyant yacht
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Should I buy doom 3, doom 2016 & doom eternal for my steam deck never played any of the games before lol

spice brook
dreamy canopy
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thats so dumb, thanks for the answer

pale elm
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Are we ready for stream folks?

spice brook
# dreamy canopy thats so dumb, thanks for the answer

eh, it is what it is
id is always innovating with their game engines--the only difference here is that the upgrade from eternal to TDA is harder to stomach than the upgrade from 2016 to eternal, since the AI bubble has made graphics cards worse price-wise

dreamy canopy
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yeah man tell me about it
every time i make the bad decision to look up prices of any pc part its an instant mood killer lmao

north pecan
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HERE WE GO

plucky tide
dreamy canopy
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its not that i care abt rt, i asked abt it bc someones cpu that i know cant handle rt and they cant play the game cus of it

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and it sucks cus they were very excited abt playing it

spice brook
plucky tide
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no i just didn’t really care about it when I played, thought it wasn’t as bad as people made it out to be

dreamy canopy
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also smt katsu mentioned earlier, innovation isn't a bad thing at all, i'm all for it
but what sucks is leaving other people behind with builds that they can't uprgade for a good while
and sure its probably a small percentage in the technologic landscape that we're in now but these people still exist

plucky tide
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except i still need a pc for my modded doom stuff, which shouldn’t be as hard to get my hands on

dreamy canopy
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i heard thrifting for parts, especially if they come from say colleges or the like is a good way to go about it

indigo mortar
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Bwoah

dreamy canopy
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a friend of mine got a monitor from a college cus they were getting rid of them, pristine condition too

indigo mortar
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College is peak, very fun

plucky tide
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iirc gpu prices everywhere shot up before TDA came out

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and guess what happened: MY pc actually broke due to power surges

dreamy canopy
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yeap, that exactly
and i myself dont really play games, so watching a playthrough is good enough for me
but my friends would really love to and their builds just aren't up to standard sadly

plucky tide
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i had plans to get a 30 series card and move to am5

dreamy canopy
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very demoralizing i fear

plucky tide
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and then the am5 board i had was defective

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legit after that i gave up on building a pc

dreamy canopy
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legit i probably would've given up too lol

plucky tide
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and I know exactly what build would suit me for years to come with my needs

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would be sick to have a 1080ti in a hyte case

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with a solid cpu and stuff

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pure opposite of a sleeper build kekw

dreamy canopy
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i'll only consider thinking about upgrading my pc when i suddenly turn into a millionaire

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which won't happen LOL

plucky tide
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right now i am thinking of even getting a mac mini, cause i know my mac runs modded doom pretty well

main estuary
thorn egret
plucky tide
mild void
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cuse the way he escapes hell is when his digital copy of himself "glitchtrap" convinces the protagonist of fnaf help wanted (im assuming vanny) to transfer williams last remaining remnant back into glitchtrap so he becomes alive again or something like that idk how to explain it better

thorn egret
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is Glitchtrap Afton

vestal rover
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no he's the Mimic or smth

limpid lava
limpid lava
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the gameplay has dubiously canon stuff that's just there for fun but the general premise of william afton being kept alive by a vengeful victim of his is canonical and takes place

limpid lava
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i just played doom 2016 after playing eternal and even on nightmare difficulty 2016 still feels like such a powertrip

uncut dagger
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Which demon do we think killed Daisy? Was it a prowler, because the Slayer seems to be extra brutal with their glory kills, and they could’ve teleported into his home

smoky ridge
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How to beat gantlet

uncut dagger
limpid lava
uncut dagger
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Paraphrasing from a YouTube comment I saw:
Hayden is like that friend that goes “You can’t just do that” while VEGA is like “I’m ready to record this.”

smoky ridge
vocal egret
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Hi

late badger
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It's easy to forget how long Marty has been at ID for. Dude is very knowledgeable about the old heads and the studio's history. I was pleasantly surprised tbh.

crude kindle
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hey hey

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just hopped in lol

placid peak
trail falcon
minor rapids
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does anyone play quake champions? or really any id game mp

plush crystal
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If anyone stills plays Doom 2016 multiplayer, im on right now and need to do a few multiplayer matches to get the trophies. I want to platinum it 😁

buoyant jackal
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sullen yarrow
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green summit
vestal rover
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Fnaf ended at either 3 or UCN to me

sullen yarrow
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I feel about FNaF like I do with Wolfenstein

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There was a perfect ending for the narrative that got wasted, but the games that followed were still good

green summit
sullen yarrow
vestal rover
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FFPS or 3

green summit
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connection terminted

delicate ravine
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First first person shooter

limpid lava
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he’s alive but in a coma

limpid lava
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FNaF 3 is at least just established characters and I really love the vibe of the minigames and such

sullen yarrow
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I always thought FNaF 3 was a bit underwhelming for such a grand story

green summit
limpid lava
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Not really that grand by the time of 3

sullen yarrow
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It's a very nice melancholic ending but FNaF 6's ending having the drama and emotion of the story is more my vibe

sullen yarrow
limpid lava
sullen yarrow
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Yeah he was just kind of thrown into the story

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(FNaF 2 did him worse tho)

limpid lava
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wym like the offhand mention

sullen yarrow
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The movie

limpid lava
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oh yeah

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I mean tbh he wasn’t that bad in the film

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If it wasn’t for the fact the rest of the film is sludge I’d say it’s good setup for 3

sullen yarrow
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It's setup for 3 and nothing more

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He was atrocious in the movie man there's literally no big reveal that he's Henry aside from the design which was like, only big for nerds who own the encyclopedia 😭

limpid lava
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Gotta say Skeet’s interviews show a real passion for the character so I’d like to see what they do in 3 since it’s confirmed by the cast he’s an active player there

sullen yarrow
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He does absolutely nothing for the story except to hype up Fazfest iirc and that event lasts like two seconds anyway and most of that is for a joke that doesn't even work at all because it's very stupidly written

limpid lava
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Idk he’s like a real minor part of the film and I enjoyed his scenes so despite it not being a lot I don’t particularly mind since it’s not his last outing

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If he’s barely in the third film yeah I will look unfavourably at it in hindsight

sullen yarrow
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He was just put here for hardly any plot relevance

limpid lava
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I do wish he did more involving Charlotte

sullen yarrow
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That design thing especially icks me like, instead of having this sort of dramatic grand reveal that he's THE Henry we only get him namedropped in the post-credits dialogue (at least from what I remember, might be wrong) and the only thing indicating he's THE Henry aside from being related to Charlotte is the stupid encyclopedia outfit

limpid lava
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if the rest of the film didn’t feel like filler/setup I wouldn’t mind it tho

sullen yarrow
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Bro this movie is both bloated and filler, literally HOW is this possible 😭

limpid lava
sullen yarrow
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That's still kinda sucky

limpid lava
sullen yarrow
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Like the Afton namedrop in FNaF 1 is still my favorite single scene from all of FNaF media, it gave me insane chills, it still does

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You have like the polar opposite character to Afton now, in the games he's basically Afton's hero equivalent, and he's so casual here

sullen yarrow
limpid lava
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idk I think he was true to Henry

sullen yarrow
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No I'm not saying he was barely Henry I'm saying I think the character was underutilized

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This movie was garbage, the second worst I've ever seen, I've already filtered most of it out while the first movie was engraved in my mind for a solid year until I got to rewatch it on DVD

limpid lava
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It wasn’t like Michael who got split in two and then turned into the literal Hamburglar and showed up twice despite being the final antagonist

sullen yarrow
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I was walking into it with really low expectations and still felt dissapointed man

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I think underutilized describes most of the movie's flaws, you have Fazfest, the withereds, Henry, Michael, all of these that should be grand appear for like barely any time at all

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Toy Chica hogs the screentime and the only kill in the movie man wtf

limpid lava
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I would just get rid of Michael, have Henry do… well actually idm him specifically but maybe a few more scenes, FazFest I’d have set the final confrontation there and have Charlotte kill people there

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And just make the Classics the Withereds

sullen yarrow
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I hate the ending sequence so much

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Everyone gives the Godzilla fight shit, which I agree with, but I also hate the stupid ending shot of Vanessa turning into the puppet, it reminds me of those clickbait AI trailers

limpid lava
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At least tjoc is on the horizon

sullen yarrow
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I'm more excited for POPGOES Evergreen than anything

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But I have doubt it'll be coming out anytime soon :p

limpid lava
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Actually Kane gave an estimate of 2026 or 2027 for it

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Which probably means 2028 but yeah

valid valley
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Fnaf at freddy

limpid lava
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Fazbear

sullen yarrow
limpid lava
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Yea but that’s the porting team’s job who are run by clickteam dev team aka the most incompetent people of all time

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At least we got myPOPGOES on mobile which is very nice that game feels better on it

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Consoles for arcade and my would just be neat

sullen yarrow
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myPOPGOES kinda shit

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Arcade is one of my favorite FNaF games but myPOPGOES is... eh

sullen yarrow
limpid lava
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Much needed updates mind

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Fighting Chance makes Machinist actually enjoyable

sullen yarrow
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No comment, I only bothered to play Machinist after Fighting Chance

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I will say the Puppet music is a bop so yeah the update was needed

limpid lava
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Machinist used to require 6000 years of grinding now it’s more like 600

sullen yarrow
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The base Arcade is very good, especially the Blackrabbit section

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Machinist? Eh, I thought it was alright, I don't really care to replay it though

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35 minutes to the Direct, I'm excited

limpid lava
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lesgo

sullen yarrow
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Markiplier in the direct chat

frank niche
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Sup

sullen yarrow
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Nintendo Direct is what's up

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Rayman is gonna be BACK, let's fucking GO

uncut dagger
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Hello everybody?

cunning iris
sullen yarrow
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But they just started the platformer segemtn

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Nevermind it immediately went to eFootball wtf

obtuse canopy
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idea: a doom anatomy book

cunning iris
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It's so over

obtuse canopy
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thanks vega

sullen yarrow
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Now they're showing a game that I swear I JUST saw doing a game showcase, maybe Game Awards

obtuse canopy
crimson cape
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i have completed doom speedrun

sullen yarrow
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Bomberman is back but not Rayman 💔

cunning iris
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Ayo new bomberman??

sullen yarrow
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Remaster of the old ones

cunning iris
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Ayoooo?
Real interest actually

sullen yarrow
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Final Fantasy 7 2

sly vigil
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Wow they're already showing rebirth after they just dropped part 1

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Makes me think part 3 is gonna launch day and date on switch 2

sullen yarrow
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New Turok???

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Looked it up and this is apparently old news but a Switch 2 release is new

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This is a Capcom Direct by now

cunning iris
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Megaman????

sullen yarrow
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No Megaman

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Scott Pilgrim

cunning iris
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Lame why even bother with Capcom then smh

sullen yarrow
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RE9

sly vigil
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Man they've already shown this game in another direct

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It's Todd Howard

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The Toddman cometh

cunning iris
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New skyrim port let's gooooo

sly vigil
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Fallout 4 actually

cunning iris
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Aw

long flume
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FUCKKK

I was lowkey hoping for Dark Ages lmfao

west parcel
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Maybe doom has a chance with all these Bethesda games coming

sullen yarrow
sly vigil
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Indiana Jones is here

long flume
west parcel
sly vigil
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Oblivion remastered

sullen yarrow
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Alright it's over

sly vigil
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No dark ages

sullen yarrow
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No Rayman. Hatred. Dissapointment.

west parcel
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It still has some good titles

long flume
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Shit

Few months then

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Got Bomberman tho so I'm very happy <3

sullen yarrow
little falcon
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Showcase was pretty ehhh.

west parcel
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Leon amiibo is the takeaway lmao

cunning iris
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No megaman or rayman it's over

little falcon
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Which is exciting even if it's not the most popular one.

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What I'm seriously confused by is why Origins got left in the dust. Legends got ported to every platform under the sun but isn't Rayman Origins not on newer consoles?

sullen yarrow
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I mean, for the remaster we know absolutely nothing about its content except for the title, Rayman: 30th Anniversary Edition, which doesn't even say a lot because we have had a compilation titled Rayman: 10th Anniversary Edition before that included anything BUT the first game

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Two thirds of Origins are remastered within Legends. Would've preferred a port though

cunning iris
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They should just make a collection of 1-3 and later origins-legends

sullen yarrow
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Legends is already on everything

cunning iris
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So it should be even easier to do so then

thorn egret
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i wish you a good night
rest well and sleep tight
may good dreams be in sight
until the arrival of sunlight

chat look at this thing i wrote for my sister just a while ago

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did i do good?

main socket
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Are there any stuff y'all think 2016 did better than Eternal?

marble pilot
woven dawn
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D2016 is probably in my top 10 FPS games of all time

main socket
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I meant stuff like tone, UI, demon designs and etc.

woven dawn
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I think the overall atmosphere of the game is better in 2016

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I think Eternals biggest flaw is it tries to do maybe a little TOO much

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Doom 2016 is just pure FPS

main socket
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I feel like 2016 def has the better demon designs for some of them

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Especially the Cyberdemon

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I will glaze this design until the day I die

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Also I def think they did the Revenants and Hell Knights the best

sullen yarrow
woven dawn
floral marlin
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and atmosphere

thorn egret
main socket
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Although I might like the TDA Hell Knights

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Just not as much as the 2016 ones

fierce radish
main socket
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My Hell Knight design ranking would probably go:

2016 > The Dark Ages > Eternal

fierce radish
uncut dagger
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Everyone that has been saying they want a DOOM game where you play as a normal guy, there are 3 official SnapMap missions called Pathfinder, Saboteur, and Facilitator where you play as an Elite Guard, and I think you aren’t as powerful. There you go

sullen yarrow
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SnapMap missions won't compare to a full game

sullen yarrow
uncut dagger
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It’s the closest you’ve got

sullen yarrow
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Nowhere near as big as what we want

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We had multiple solid normal guy games already; literally every game before 2016. So I'm personally satiated. But a new one would be cool

uncut dagger
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I think it’s good enough

ivory ravine
uncut dagger
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Like at least two people I think

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Maybe not in this channel

ivory ravine
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2 ppl out of 24k doesn't really constitute everyone

sweet skiff
cunning iris
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There's more pieces of DOOM media where the protag is "just some guy" than there are where they aren't

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1-2 (or I guess the entire classic series for that matter), 3 (and its 2 expansions), both movies

sweet skiff
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Classic Doom, Doom 3 and RPG dilogy,where you play as normal dude.

cunning iris
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And prob the novels too but I haven't read those so idk how those play out exactly

urban aurora
cunning iris
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No

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Novels as in
Books

urban aurora
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theres doom novels???

cunning iris
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Yes

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Classic doom got 4 and DOOM 3 has...2? I think?

urban aurora
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well, you learn something new everyday.

cunning iris
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That's where the name Flynn Taggart comes from I believe, and also the misinfo that doomguy is catholic

prisma mason
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Hello Guys !

urban aurora
prisma mason
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How are you? Do you want me to tell you something?

urban aurora
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and fucking kills demons

cunning iris
prisma mason
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Today I'm buying The Ancient Gods Part One

zenith roost
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Hell yeah

prisma mason
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Finally

zenith roost
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Tag1 is fantastic

cunning iris
cunning iris
prisma mason
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SI Finally

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Yes finally*

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Tonight, I'm going to get really addicted.

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Hey, do you know the duration of each part of the Ancient Gods?

prime sand
cunning iris
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Not nearly as long as the main game. 3 hours is probably a good estimate

prisma mason
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I'm going to have so much fun

prime sand
uncut dagger
indigo cedar
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So I'm finally playing doom 2016 and I finished mission 7. But also I just want to say this in my opinion.

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The hell knights in 2016 whoop my ass alot More than in the dark ages

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And NGL I'm scared of them in 2016

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But it's awesome

glass adder
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The stun mod on the plasma rifle is super strong for em in 2016 if you want tips.

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Usually I like to stun mod and then hit em with lock on or ssg.

white marsh
indigo cedar
lethal anvil
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hi guys i hope everyone is having a good dayyy

delicate ravine
remote apex
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Am in the company of a bunch of history nerds? If so, where can I put the rough draft for a story I wrote for a contest?

tawny siren
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We don't have an off-topic channel, so I would say another server would be the answer.

remote apex
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Damn, alright

main socket
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My bad

plain cloud
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Hey guys we had someone break in and steal two guns last night does anyone have any good editing skills that could enhance visibility in a nighttime setting to see a face or partial with a headlamp on?

astral mortar
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is there a mod i can content or dm about a scam?

misty ridge
astral mortar
misty ridge
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np

proper sentinel
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@misty ridge ay bro, do you fish?

misty ridge
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how come

bronze widget
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i killed marauder

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took me like 3 tries on uv my first time

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but i missed the glorykill

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so i took like another 2 tries to kill him again

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and i got the glorykill worth it

floral marlin
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hey my skibidi rizzlers, im back

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the goat themself is here!

misty ridge
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ello liv

floral marlin
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haii LVRH

misty ridge
misty ridge
proper sentinel
misty ridge
floral marlin
misty ridge
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yeah bruh

floral marlin
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omg Anja that was smooth

misty ridge
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chat heeelp I got rizzed Archie

floral marlin
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shoot your shot

chrome cove
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sup

plain cloud
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You think I didnt

floral marlin
misty ridge
plain cloud
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We called the cops they got all the stuff that coulda got prints on it but I wanna see if somone knows if the video could be enhanced to the extent of making out the prime suspect

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I ain't stupid

misty ridge
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hmm

south tundra
woven dawn
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The next DOOM needs to have a soundtrack done by Andrew Hulshult

astral mortar
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I finally beat doom 2016 for the first time!!

south tundra
astral mortar
lethal anvil
astral surge
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just saw Iron Lung and very much enjoyed it

astral mortar
astral mortar
astral surge
soft folio
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Yay DOOM

woven dawn
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DOOM

lethal anvil
lethal anvil
hazy birch
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i am reinstalling doom eternal, havent played it since it came out and I got stuck on the level that started out on the bridge with the scary reaper demon that teleports and you have to do combo breakers and shit to kill

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maybe i am a better gamer now or i will play on a lower difficulty who knows

astral surge
severe trellis
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DOOM

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DOOM (slowed down)

woven dawn
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RIP AND TEAR

south tundra
hazy birch
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Nah, it was on one of the sentinel worlds, was grassy and it was on a bridge at the start of the level

astral surge
hazy birch
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I'm gonna have to let you know once I get there again

olive fern
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Is there a way to find Doom tier lists here?

south tundra
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Taras Nabad

timid sierra
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It’s Taras nabad, that’s where the archville was introduced

timid sierra
iron rivet
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What F-Zero machine would Doom Slayer use?

timid sierra
iron rivet
ivory ravine
harsh spire
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I created a 24-hour video that plays hours and minutes of DOOM-themed content. It's perfect for turning that old tablet or phone into a clock.

Every 4 hours, Doomguy's health deteriorates, so much so that at 8 AM he dies, and the next minute he respawns in GOD mode, and the following minute the cycle begins again with his health at maximum.

This Discord server doesn't allow posting links, so if you're interested, you can request them from me privately.

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😺

warm pier
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Doom eternal was such a weird game.

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Especially downloading the DLC back in 2020.

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It didn’t feel like a video game anymore. It felt like subliminal messaging of the Old Testament and other weird ass themes.

timid sierra
clever plinth
warm pier
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I’m just saying. Doom is spitting some weird stuff

timid sierra
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How did it not feel like a video game?

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Eternal was the most gamey doom yet

warm pier
clever plinth
warm pier
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But that DLC had weird ass themes.

timid sierra
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Yeah it was a goofy story

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Idk about the subliminal messaging though

warm pier
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Like eternal life and uploading your consciousness to alien robot technology.

warm pier
clever plinth
timid sierra
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I genuinely don't understand what point you're trying to make here

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if you want to post a link go to a different channel that allows it and link it

warm pier
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Wow I can’t even post scientific articles and links.

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Never mind folks.

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Ignorance is bliss

clever plinth
warm pier
warm pier
timid sierra
warm pier
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Best to let it go.

timid sierra
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then we can read what you're trying to send

astral mortar
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guys am i a masochist im doing an ultra nightmare run on switch lite

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on doom eternal to be specific

timid sierra
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insane

astral mortar
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am i insane or insanely good

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i think maybe just insane

pliant quartz
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Gang I just threw up and I didn’t make it to the toilet in time.🥀

ivory ravine
astral mortar
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or the kids jumped out of the pool

pliant quartz
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Damn

delicate ravine
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What the fuck

pale elm
ivory ravine
delicate ravine
wraith cedar
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I er uh have returned from death

ivory ravine
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@delicate ravine I see it's this time of the evening

delicate ravine
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Thats what I get for waking up early in the morning for work

astral mortar
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face your fears

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participate in the absence of intelligent thought

delicate ravine
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Ehhhhh

astral mortar
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partypooper

warm pier
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Anyone here cook red meat 🥩?

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Stove top cast iron ?

frigid venture
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67

tepid summit
royal sinew
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read flowers of evil if you haven’t

agile harness
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Playboi carti is the best rapper ever

frigid venture
frigid venture
royal sinew
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it’s almost same themes as punpun

agile harness
royal sinew
agile harness
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2nd favorite rapper ever

frigid venture
agile harness
royal sinew
agile harness
royal sinew
agile harness
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I met carti personally too (im lying)

royal sinew
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seeyuh

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man carti man best rapper in the world man

agile harness
royal sinew
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i’m carti’ing it

frigid venture
agile harness
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"I was 24 when i had lil onyx" doesnt talk to his son lmao

royal sinew
agile harness
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Rockstar made

royal sinew
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wait by who

frigid venture
agile harness
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Who's that

royal sinew
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listening

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no idea

agile harness
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I only know carti ahhhhhh

frigid venture
royal sinew
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it’s better than carti that’s for sure

frigid venture
agile harness
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Funny enough I wouldn't call him my true favorite rapper lol

frigid venture
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j coles best album i think

royal sinew
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oh i know his song wet dreamz

frigid venture
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yea its pretty popular

royal sinew
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sir

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why did taylor swift start playing after listening to j cole. are they the same genre??

placid peak
frigid venture
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no j cole is a rapper

pale gale
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Does anybody know Faceball 2000? I am a fan of that game.

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It is also a port of the true granddaddy of FPSes. Predated wolfenstein. MIDI-MAZE! 16 PLAYER FPS BEFORE DOOM!

plucky tide
royal sinew
obtuse canopy
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its my birthday today and the first demon i killed was the basic soldier in doom eternal

delicate ravine
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happy birthday

void nest
green elk
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I wish Steam would let me play Quake 4 with a controller.

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good game would be better on controller

sullen yarrow
sullen yarrow
thorn egret
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chat~

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look what i got

delicate ravine
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congrats

thorn egret
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˵´ω`˵ thanks...

delicate ravine
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some of these subjects are unfamiliar to me. Is Filipino the class you learn about literature and write stuff in?

thorn egret
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oh yesse

Filipino is the language of the Philippines

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it mainly teaches Filipino literature and language

devout mesa
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Ah that makes sense

delicate ravine
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I figured that'd be the case

obtuse canopy
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thank you both

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and anome

thorn egret
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AP is Social Studies, where we learn about history, economy, society, etc.

delicate ravine
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what're the ones between science and music?

thorn egret
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EsP is Moral Education, where we learn about, yes, morals

what's good and what's bad, and the fundamental components of my religion

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and TVE is Technical Vocational Education, a subject mainly focused on livelihood and career

in my case, it's HVAC, where we learn about A/Cs, refrigerators, and the likes

thorn egret
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-# sorry i didn't see

thorn egret
delicate ravine
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thats weird

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Music and Arts, and Physical Education and Health, being combined seems sensible. But all 4 into one subject is odd

delicate ravine
thorn egret
delicate ravine
delicate ravine
thorn egret
delicate ravine
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For a 6 months or so, we did food tech (learning to cook). Then we switched to wood working. Then we switched to textiles and design (over the course of two years)

pearl mango
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congrats dude!

thorn egret
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3rd one was quite boring, because we never did any welding at all, only wrote down lectures, memorized abbreviations, and bought snacks for plus points

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4th one, the boys and girls' TVE components were switched up, so while the girls did ICT (computer tech), the boys had to sew aprons from cloth pieces

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in the end... out of all 4 components, 1st one was my highest grade, so i was locked to it for the next three years of junior high

delicate ravine
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I see, I see

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thanks for the explanation

ivory ravine
obtuse canopy
obtuse canopy
merry kelp
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Hello

thorn egret
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i'm sad

all my Metroid Prime data got wiped

pearl mango
silk tree
drifting geode
obtuse canopy
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thanks you guys

delicate ravine
thorn egret
delicate ravine
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the prime metroid prime experience

thorn egret
thorn egret
delicate ravine
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hm?

thorn egret
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my thoughts on replaying Metroid Prime from the very beginning

thorn egret
delicate ravine
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It shows that Samus' suit computer is pretty general knowledge/purpose

thorn egret
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there's a reason why she's the best bounty hunter in the galaxy