the-dark-ages

[split saddle]

The bonk feels nice tho

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-komodo-dragon-mace-gif-17426674150919425447

[spark elm]

Second playthrough issue: 3rd wolf statue isn’t breaking by the shield and the shield is supposed to break it.

(Siege - part 1)

[split saddle]

Is the only way to get armor is the combat shotgun upgrade, fissure and flail ?

[spark elm]

If I restart the map from the beginning will I keep what I collected so far in it?

[split saddle]

Yes

Well it should

[green estuary]

This sometimes happens when you already broke the statue but died afterwards
The statue should still count as broken for the ruby shield to lift

[split saddle]

Because restarting from checkpoint keeps everything you collected

[spark elm]

I have not died.

And ruby shield is still up

It did not keep what I collected.

[frail bloom]

Oh that happened to me on my max slider run

I killed the vagary, nothing happened

[spark elm]

First official death… but restarting the map fixed my ruby

of course it was vagary vomit

[green jetty]

Hello

[fading osprey]

Salutations

[green jetty]

Wait on December is the 31st I think anniversary of doom

[fading osprey]

Peak

Happy new year, and happy doom day!

[green jetty]

Ye

[fading osprey]

Gonna be fire

[green jetty]

W8 ima go see on December what

[fading osprey]

Ok

[spark elm]

December 10th.

[fading osprey]

Oh

[green jetty]

Ok so December 10th and 32th anniversary

And I said 31st as like the year is going to reach

[fading osprey]

Woo!

[slender night]

December 29 is when Heretic's shareware version has its anniversary. Full version's release date is surprisingly unknown as of right now

[green jetty]

Ok

Bue

Bye

[spark elm]

Okay that’s better I was able to 100% Siege Part 1 due to the map reset

[sour crater]

these leader encounters do be difficult

the blue cyberdemon is kinda impossible for me with all the hell knights jumping me and that komodo jumpscaring me 3 seconds later

[clever linden]

is there a dlc for this game

[frail bloom]

Yes it states it on the premium package

And Hugo has been talking abt it for months

Giving little teases

[solid nacelle]

It'll be out some time in 2026

[green estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1444480087377576062/image.png?ex=692cdc69&is=692b8ae9&hm=532210307418ca2ffb0ebd398f015def243e3082a05d711fda3c94c2ce675588&

how about that ripatorium update

[obsidian shard]

It was in the top 10 Most sold last week!

It's doing very well again the 50% off and updates have done wonders!

Well Tbf it's been doing well the whole time but you get my point

[worthy umbra]

So, I'm trying to use the Ripatorium 2.0. I set some presets (Medium, etc.) on the first page. Click over to the Start tab, and Start is grayed out and can't be used. I've validated files, I've reinstalled, I've done everything I can think of, and it just will not function.
What am I doing wrong?

Been asking around on other fan communities and no-one else is seeing this. Searching Google only brings up Doom Eternal posts.

[obsidian shard]

Could you send a photo?

[worthy umbra]

If I can find where it put the screenshot...

OK, it won't let me post a screenshot here for some reason... one sec

[obsidian shard]

Post it in #screenshots

[worthy umbra]

Posted

[obsidian shard]

Did you scroll down to the start button? Also could you send a screenshot of the The first 2 Tabs?

[worthy umbra]

It won't copy the cursor in the screenshot, but I'm trying to click Start and it just won't respond at all.

Sec

Posted

[obsidian shard]

Def strange, Send in a support ticket to Bethesda, also try making your own pre-set to see if that works (if you haven't already)

[worthy umbra]

I have no idea how to make a preset. Where do I best go to send a ticket?

[green estuary]

Did you set your difficulty first?

[elder raven]

the komodo ai desperately needs an update oh my god

it just runs away mid fight

[worthy umbra]

OK, figured it out.
Medium starts w three waves, but if you increase it to 5, it won't populate those extra two waves, but it also won't let you start until they are populated, and it won't Tell you Why it won't start, either... Blarg... Well at least I know what's going on. I guess it all makes sense, but a simple message somewhere saying, "Please populate waves 4 and 5 to start" or something would be great.

[obsidian shard]

Yes thats the point

It's a Bitch

[green estuary]

damn when I fight komodos, they just run over me lol

[elder raven]

im doing a max damage to slayer run and its absolute torture

[green estuary]

every other AI at least acknowledges my existence but komodos straight up don't care

[sour crater]

i hate the komodo

[frail bloom]

The komodo needs to be executed no question

[frail bloom]

Is this good or bad idk how this stuff works

1000+ ppl seems pretty good no?

[elder raven]

more than that

[frail bloom]

Burned alive maybe

Or burned dead since it respawns in hell

Infinitely kill it

[green estuary]

before the update the average player peak was 750 or so
and it was up to nearly 2600 this morning

[frail bloom]

Damn

Y'know are there any other forums where ppl share ripatorium codes

[sour crater]

It seems like every day there are steam forums complaining about something in this game

pmo

[frail bloom]

Share me some comments as long as they're dumb and funny

[green estuary]

that's most of what goes on in steam forums

[sour crater]

ok so what's the most effective way to kill those armored pinkies

[frail bloom]

To break their armor fast, you can use the ssg, flail or chainshot

You can also heat up their armor by heating up other enemy armor and breaking it, which heats up the pinkies armor

[crude sparrow]

Most of the comments are still just about Mick Gordon

I genuinely don't think finishing move did a bad job with the ost this time around

[sour crater]

i see a lot of people complaining abuot the raytracing

[crude sparrow]

It fits the medieval style, only complaint is the actual audio mix could be a little better because it still takes a while for that drop to come in and by that time I'm already done with the fight

[crude sparrow]

Also yeah you're bound to have people complaining about that

Rtx cards are still pretty expensive

[sour crater]

still id did an amazing job with optmization

i can run this game with a 6gb rtx card and still have 60 fps

[crude sparrow]

Yes exactly

I have a 4060 ti and can play it on 100-120~ fps on Ultra-Nightmare graphics and DLAA upscaling

I have a 144hz monitor so I drop it down to just quality to get some of that extra fps

[sour crater]

do you actually use any other weapons

[crude sparrow]

I haven't found a way to get it to 144 on DLAA yet I don't think my card can run it unfortunately

[sour crater]

i find myself only using the super shotgun

[crude sparrow]

I come from doom eternal and ultrakill so I try to swap weapons as much as I can lol

[green estuary]

DLAA actually isn't upscaling, it's just anti-aliasing
you're still playing at native resolution

[sour crater]

me too

just that the ss feels too good

[crude sparrow]

I guess you're right but still I couldn't get it to run at a stable 144 fps, had to drop it to quality

[sour crater]

come to think of it the cycler has potential

[green estuary]

the cycler is insane

best automatic weapon in the game imo

[crude sparrow]

The shock ability is broken lol

You can just completely stunlock any demon with it if you want

[green estuary]

you can just kill a shocked fodder enemy and stun a baron out of his jumping slam animation
it's hilarious

[crude sparrow]

At first I was kinda bummed out that the shock ability from the gauntlets doesn't spread on kill but after I found out it stuns I realized why they did that xD

[sour crater]

only demons i need to learn how to demolish are the aggadons and komodos

but other than that i love this game

[crude sparrow]

komodos are just annoying they just run around like headless chickens most of the time

like where are you going IM HERE 😭

[green estuary]

the cycler is fantastic for komodos

it's got a high falloff distance so you don't have to hug his nuts in order to deal good damage

[crude sparrow]

I also like the other plasma rifle tbh

just spraying down cyberdemons with it

[green estuary]

yeah the accelerator has insane dps provided you can stay up close to an enemy

[crude sparrow]

its not really good against normal heavies because they're kinda hard to consisently hit with it

[green estuary]

no it's still great against them

[crude sparrow]

but against super heavies, even mancubi its insane

[green estuary]

if you feel like you're not hitting shots then the stabilizer upgrade helps

[sour crater]

is the impaler still good against aggadons

[green estuary]

the impaler is good against literally everything

[violet zealot]

I mostly use the super shotgun

[crude sparrow]

impaler got nerfed pretty heavily tbh, I'd say the chainball gun is better for those

[green estuary]

the only time it's a bit awkward is against cyberdemons, because they're so dang tall

[violet zealot]

𝚃𝚛𝚞𝚝𝚑

[sour crater]

wish the aggadons didn't try to run away everytime you approach them

and then they just spam their homing skulls

[obsidian shard]

SSG, Rocket Launcher, Impaler, Chainshot, Accelerator, Cycler, Pulverizer, Ravager and
Shredder (ricochet is so good, Hugo was onto something)

[crude sparrow]

Impaler still one shots hell knights in the head tho

[obsidian shard]

Basically everything except Combat Shotgun and Grenade Launcher

[green estuary]

take it from somebody who looks at the game files
the actual damage hasn't been nerfed at all

[obsidian shard]

Peak Pfp Katsu

[green estuary]

hell yeah

[obsidian shard]

I will miss the old one

[green estuary]

I just be cycling between doom pfps nowadays lol

[obsidian shard]

I also use the Shield Saw alot

[violet zealot]

𝚂𝚊𝚖𝚎

[crude sparrow]

I know the damage against armor got nerfed and I think they even fucked with the headshot damage a little but that got reverted I'm pretty sure

[sour crater]

i found out that spamming the shield throw does wonders against the heavies

[crude sparrow]

also hi you're the mancubus guy on twitter right xD

[green estuary]

the only substantial nerfs the impaler has gotten is the interaction where headshots essentially gave you free dreadmace charges for no effort and the fact that salvage gave you massive damage boosts even if you didn't hit your headshots

[obsidian shard]

Yup! You could say that I suppose

[sour crater]

i did have a combo in mind for superheavies

apply shock with the cycler then go crazy with the accelerator

[crude sparrow]

I think you can just keep reapplying shock with fist punches

[green estuary]

except the gauntlet shock does not spread

[sour crater]

yeah but the flail is growing on me

and i don't really like using the chainshot

[crude sparrow]

doesnt need to if you're targetting just one super heavy

[obsidian shard]

Cycler is how a beat Melee Fury actually lmao

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/josémourinho-big-trouble-if-i-speak-prefer-not-to-speak-interview-gif-16725048

[crude sparrow]

I also started liking the flail since I found out the third hit in the combo also stuns like the kick

[obsidian shard]

Ive been loving it, it may be the worst, but its still good

[crude sparrow]

damage isnt as high but the armor drops balance it out

[green estuary]

another one fallen to the propaganda

[crude sparrow]

flail is cool af you cant deny that

[sour crater]

it also does wonders against armored enemies

[green estuary]

yeah it's cool
but the armor it gives is lowk nonexistent

which is the whole selling point

you're never lacking armor damage with how busted the runes are, plus the really high armor damage of the ssg/chainshot

[obsidian shard]

Sorry TM no fun for you

[crude sparrow]

on top of that I also have resource drops on minimum so it gives even less xD

[obsidian shard]

You should play at 50% damage to demons

[green estuary]

on second-to-lowest it literally gives 8 armor per hit on heavy demons

that's absolutely nothing

[crude sparrow]

yeah but you have 3 charges

thats 8x3

plus if theres more demons around it gives you even more

[crude sparrow]

doomguy if he had iron deficiency

[frail bloom]

[green estuary]

yeah so 24 armor in a 3 hit combo
a single soldier projectile deals 37.5 damage on nightmare

and an imp stalker lunge deals 100 damage

[obsidian shard]

Howdy Samir

[frail bloom]

I don't care if the flail does piss all damage but it's only purpose is not carried out properly so therefore it's useless

[crude sparrow]

it's kinda like a passive stream of armor

[frail bloom]

Herro

[green estuary]

even in the best case scenario, it helps you tank one extra hit while leaving the demons alive twice as long

[crude sparrow]

okay then, what about the extra damage to armor

I think its worth using for that

[frail bloom]

I know they fixed the dynanic music module a couple months back tho so I guess you're just finishing fights real quick

[crude sparrow]

I play on 130% speed could that be why?

[obsidian shard]

yes

[frail bloom]

I do too

[green estuary]

once you get a rune upgraded, you can literally delete an armored mancubus with a single parry
plus the ssg and especially chainshot just heat up armor instantly anyways

[obsidian shard]

only reason i have 50% damage to demons is so i can listen to the music more lol, gotta enjoy that music cause its a banger

[frail bloom]

Y'know how to fix it, just play the ripatorium

The average preset is waaaay above a casuals abilities

The second you see more than 3 superheavies it's wraps as a casual

[crude sparrow]

those require setup, with the flail you can just hit E and fully heat up armor in one hit

[frail bloom]

But for a relatively good player you'll have a great time

[green estuary]

setup?
you just switch to the weapon and press mouse1 lol

[frail bloom]

You can also use the ground fissure rune

I am mispelling a lot of things today

[crude sparrow]

switching weapons takes time too

[green estuary]

mate

you know what also takes time?
killing stuff with the flail, because it literally deals a fifth of the damage of every other melee

[crude sparrow]

when an armored hell knight jumps me I hit him with the flail and instantly shatter his armor before he can even land

and then just one shot him with the SSG

[green estuary]

ok, so you get 5% extra convenience in breaking armor

[crude sparrow]

basically xD

[green estuary]

[crude sparrow]

I still like the fists more because of the kick but when theres a shit ton of heavies with armor they're kinda useless

[frail bloom]

Y'know what there is melee swap so it's not like you have to stick with one anymore

[crude sparrow]

main reason I didnt like the flail before was because I thought the third combo hit doesnt falter but it does

[crude sparrow]

yeah but that also resets your melee charges

[frail bloom]

You can use the flail to break armor and the the fists

[frail bloom]

Easy to work around

It's for balancing reasons but it hasen't stopped me

[crude sparrow]

ground fissure or headshot with the impaler

[frail bloom]

Like the dreadmace bug only two people know about

[crude sparrow]

didnt that get patched?

[frail bloom]

No a different one, it's been introduced with melee and rune swap

[crude sparrow]

oh I dont know about that one then

[frail bloom]

And you never will

[crude sparrow]

wooow

[frail bloom]

[crude sparrow]

you're just gonna gatekeep like that

[frail bloom]

[crude sparrow]

I thought us slayers helped eachother

[frail bloom]

[green estuary]

there's no point anyway
it'll get patched out shortly regardless

[frosty roost]

literally funny how I just found out that kreed maykr's va was also samuel hayden

[crude sparrow]

really?

[frail bloom]

Ah did someone tell them

Bummer

[green estuary]

no
I'm just saying that there's no point in learning it anyways, as it'll just get patched out

[frail bloom]

I don't see anyone talking abt it

Except you and me

Infact I think only you and me know what it is

[green estuary]

I'm sure they already know about it

[frail bloom]

Welp

Rest in peace

[crude sparrow]

still no idea what the bug is

lowkey dont really care that much anyway cuz I dont use the dreadmace xD

[sour crater]

sadistic is no joke

[crude sparrow]

sadistic was probably where I had the most fun in

I've tried 2 community presets so far but havent beaten them yet

[sour crater]

i'm getting destroyed by that gold aggadon

[crude sparrow]

the community one I just played had like all 3 champion demons at once xD

[frail bloom]

Which one was it

[crude sparrow]

champion's gauntlet in the ripatorium channel

gonna try and do all of them in there

[frail bloom]

Good luck some of them are super tough

[sour crater]

speaking of presets i wonder if there will be more added to the selection screen

[frail bloom]

Plutoniums wrath is prob the hardest

[frail bloom]

id team have said they will cycle through different presets at different times

[sour crater]

oh

[crude sparrow]

just the community ones though right

[frail bloom]

Some from id and some from the community

[crude sparrow]

or are there gonna be more official ones too

[sour crater]

i think sadistic is a id preset

and i think community presets have the author named

[frail bloom]

Like if you look now, 3 are by community members, you can tell bc the person who made it is credited, and the ones without name are official

[crude sparrow]

theres like 5 community ones right now pretty sure

[frail bloom]

No there should be 3

[crude sparrow]

I know they said 3 but I think they added more

[frail bloom]

What are they?

[crude sparrow]

hold on lemme boot up the game for you

medium, challenging and sadistic are official id ones,
escalation of pain, arachnophobia and melee fury are the community ones
and then theres blitz, mancageddon and meteor

I have no idea what the last 3 are

[frail bloom]

The last three are by kroniid

Who is part of the id team

So those are official

[crude sparrow]

ah okay

so theres definitely a lot to play

[frail bloom]

Yup yup

[crude sparrow]

I'm still hoping they add like a full on randomizer endless mode as well

I remember doom eternal had a mod like that which I really liked

[frail bloom]

That sounds like one of those last updates that's added to a game

Rn there's a possibility for a master level campaign

And ofc dlc

[crude sparrow]

there need to be more master levels this time around, eternal didnt have that many

[frail bloom]

And the only way I see the ripatorium being majorly updated again is when dlc drops, bc there is new enviroments and enemies plus weapons

[frail bloom]

I think they'll deliver

We just gotta bide our time

[flat flicker]

someone have any input

anybody wanna lmk if its worth allthat money money money

[green estuary]

full price is a tough ask
but at 35 bucks it's almost a steal imo

[flat flicker]

i want the full

thingy

[frail bloom]

I think 60 bucks is good

[green estuary]

well 60 bucks would be a good starting price
but I still probably wouldn't buy it at that price simply because I don't buy any games at full price, just on principle

[frail bloom]

That's fair

Off topic but I remember some ppl making claims back in january that the game wouldn't allow you to be able to fight multiple heavies at a time bc it's so parry focused and slow

Smartest community alive dissecting scripted trailer footage

Pretty useless info but imagine thinking that

I don't think the same thing is gonna happen again

Surely

It was an interesting time in general

[ebon lynx]

"they made doom into an open-world souls-like!"

[frail bloom]

Doom now has women

0/10

[ebon lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-dont-leave-me-i-need-you-here-with-me-guy-screaming-guy-crying-gif-3264835921801269599

[frail bloom]

The music is ai bro bro

All ai

[ebon lynx]

surely

yeah the community definitely wont react the same way with the next game

[frail bloom]

I take back my statement

They def will💀

We need new doomtubers, not as replacements but to offer new perspectives

Raguel, horde mode and iconofsimp are good new ones

[sour crater]

my genuine question is how midnight's still popular

[frail bloom]

I mean he's mellowed out I'd say

Not as clickbaity as he used to be

Pretty good to watch now

[ebon lynx]

"This Doom Secret is ILLEGAL"

[frail bloom]

I mean that's just a funny title

[ebon lynx]

yeah but its also just kinda braindead ngl

[frail bloom]

I like the actual content

But he's not the best source of news

[ebon lynx]

some of its fun

[frail bloom]

He doesn't lie persay but he misinterprets some things

[thorn glacier]

Are there any actual Doom wads that are illegal?

[ebon lynx]

"hugo CONFIRMS giant sword!!"

[frail bloom]

Maybe the eric and harris wad

[mystic barn]

Probably the Columbine one

[thorn glacier]

Tru

[frail bloom]

Ye was that their names

No it was dilan

[thorn glacier]

Dear god we get a Daikatana game.

[frail bloom]

I don't remember

[pseudo dove]

hugo jass

[thorn glacier]

I know Grezzo is uh...a thing.

[frail bloom]

Oh the one with the weird italian pope imagery?

Was that the one

[thorn glacier]

I think so

[mystic barn]

Moon man wads too

[thorn glacier]

Is Moon Man illegal or just banned to stream?

[frail bloom]

With so much creativity it's bound to get into the wrong hands

[thorn glacier]

You can make anything out of DOOM, it's scary. (And rad.)

[mystic barn]

I don't know about banned, but it's disgustingly racist

[frail bloom]

Are all of those old wads btw

[thorn glacier]

I think so

Last wad to make a fuss was the Thatcher one, and that was just hilarious.

[frail bloom]

I don't remember when they were released but my intuition says from like late 90's to mid 2000's

Speaking of wads, someone should make midi versions of the dark ages ost

[thorn glacier]

ye

[frail bloom]

Someone make hellspawn rift in midi format

Quick get jimmy paddock

[thorn glacier]

I need to find some good medieval or fantasy style wads...

[frail bloom]

Rekkr

That's a good one

[thorn glacier]

thank ya

[frail bloom]

Was there a vagary leader at some point

I saw a vagary with red armor in the dev direct

[sour crater]

was there?

[frail bloom]

Ye looks like it

And a whole cut level

[sour crater]

oh i see

could just be the armor not being fully heated

background looks like siege

[frail bloom]

It looks weird and smooth tho

Idk what I'm looking at really

[sour crater]

wait no you're right

there are different colors for the leg joins

[frail bloom]

Yup

[sour crater]

come to think of it there are a lot of things in the direct not in the main game

[warm ibex]

I hope raguel and iconofsimp continue to grow and eventually surpass me

they both deserve it

[oblique walrus]

My Dad got a PS5, and Doom: The Dark Ages. So far I've only played the first level, and it's so cool!

[elder raven]

this run makes me wanna pull my hair out and quit this franchise forever

perpetual torment

[green estuary]

what are you trying to do

[elder raven]

demons do 500% damage and i do minimum

[green estuary]

500% damage to player isn't terrible, but 50% damage to demons is a slog

it only kinda sorta feels balanced after you get runes, because runes are way too fucking strong in this game

doesn't sound like much fun

[elder raven]

ive contemplated quitting but im already at nerathul so i cant

[sour crater]

Speaking of runes

Which runes do you guys run

[elder raven]

#screenshots message

[elder raven]

depends on what weapon im using

if im using the ssg? shock/ground fissure

if im using the ravager? turret

[flat elm]

They're content is gold

[green estuary]

Speaking of, I wish Devo posted on YT more often

[fast valley]

I usually use the punch swap rune with the Rocket launcher and Grenade launcher

[ebon apex]

Can someone explain to me what attacks the mid point glory kill even disables for the cyberdemon and the komodo?

[mystic barn]

I think the idea is that it disables their chaingun/rocket launcher and gravitron arm respectively. Whether or not this is true in practice is unclear, as I swear I’ve been chaingunned by a Cyberdemon after the middle glory kill

[ebon apex]

Maybe only the seeking skull is disabled?

Is the gravaton arm the random projectiles kind of like the mancubus?

Or the ground slam?

[strong moth]

Graviton Arm is the huge ground slam

[meager vortex]

https://x.com/i/status/1994902187676504117

DansGaming (@Dansgaming)

Geoff Keighley posted coordinates as a teaser for The Game Awards. At the location is this strange statue.

I wonder what game this is teasing, have any ideas? The me it looks like demons and a gateway, possible Diablo or DOOM?

X · Nov 29, 2025, 10:51 PM

DOOM THE DARK AGES DLC teser?

look at the demons they try escape to the hell

[slender night]

It does look like DOOM but I have no idea what this could be teasing

[strong moth]

I feel like this has gotta be Diablo. The animal humanoids don’t seem doomy to me but they do look like Diablo

[slender night]

Maybe it's Freddy Fazbear

Hur hur hur hur hur

[harsh egret]

its in no way Doom

its Diablo almost for sure, but we could see an IP collab reveal too and the new class thats coming to Diablo will have a shield and melee... who else has shield and melee...

[crude sparrow]

As much as I love the turret, ground fissure all the way

Turret needs a buff imo

All the other runes are great for ground control and even instantly put some heavies into glory kill meanwhile the turret just goes brrrr for a couple seconds and then steal your kill

[crude sparrow]

I really like trav guy but those are more the game review/video essay type of videos

So doesn't really count as a doomtuber since it's not really doom content on the regular like horde does for example

[solar cairn]

Diablo

[frail bloom]

Oh i love trav guys work aswell, waiting for that dark ages review

[cerulean pagoda]

just did a UN run and died at enhanced azhrak

for some reasno i tried using ssg unstead of the impaler on him

next run ill save a bfc arrow just for his second phase

[warm ibex]

this is obviously a direct teaser for Quake 6, which Hugo and Josh 110% confirmed

[elder raven]

quake 6 in 3 minutes

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-freddy-fazbear-fnaf-surprise-bear-gif-10797545912537514262

[split saddle]

ripatorium more like ripafartrium

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-happy-new-year-gif-24516985

[split saddle]

sorry

[violet zealot]

It’s worse

[split saddle]

I am Samuel Hayden I have an argent energy withdrawal

[violet zealot]

...

[split saddle]

I am addicted to that shit

[violet zealot]

𝙻𝚘𝚕

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-not-the-villian-of-this-story-doom-samuel-hayden-video-games-gif-25253305

[split saddle]

In doom eternal you lost your penid

[strong moth]

I’m under the impression that BFC does almost nothing to Azhrak

[cerulean pagoda]

maybe it does

idk

ill test on my save

[green estuary]

Bosses have a damage cap for the bfc, yes

[cerulean pagoda]

oh

[green estuary]

I believe it’s something like 30k damage
And enhanced ahzrak has 310k hp per phase

So it really doesn’t do much

It’s really a good thing that they made your super weapons less of an instant win button tbh

[strong moth]

I agree. I think the bosses in this game, especially Kreed, are the best in the series

Doom 3 Cyberdemon is maybe the worst in the series lol

[green estuary]

Even ignoring the bosses, good BFG routing almost trivializes the endgame in eternal
It’s nice that TDA doesn’t let you do that

[strong moth]

Counterpoint: I’m not very good at Eternal so nothing trivializes it for me

[green estuary]

Lol
Although if you knew the BFG routing strats then you’d probably agree with me

Oh, and the crucible as well

[strong moth]

My Strat for Crucible is to never use it until I see an Archvile

[green estuary]

Honestly archviles are incredibly unthreatening in the base campaign

Tyrants and barons are much better crucible targets since archies essentially go down in 2 lock on bursts anyways

[strong moth]

Counterpoint: I’m not good at Eternal lol

Honestly watching Lawrence Sonntag play through has inspired me to try again sometime

[green estuary]

If you check out some of the 100% UN speedruns you’ll see just how little actual real fighting you do after you get the BFG/crucible

[strong moth]

That’s how I feel about 2016 speed runs with Chaingun and Rich get Richer

[slender night]

You know your franchise is good when the boss somebody claims to be the worst is still not particularily bad

[green estuary]

Yeah it’s not quite as bad as 2016
But still very cheese-able

[quaint stream]

Hallo

Im Deadpool

[strong moth]

That’s not what your username says

[quaint stream]

_bitch

[strong moth]

Hm

[elder raven]

gonna order that new microphone today, get started on a script, and maybe settle on my preset

[quaint stream]

I'm ready with my two desert deagels covered on gold ready to shoot your balls if you try anything on me

But nothing is harmful for me

[strong moth]

Good luck! I felt pretty good about my preset until I played some of the ones they added to the menu. These guys are better than me

[quaint stream]

Actually it does hurt._. but I regenerate

[elder raven]

im hoping that some of our presets are played live

that’d be awesome

[strong moth]

They’ve done a couple so far on stream. Arachnophobia rules

[elder raven]

arachnophobia’s really good

i really want hugo to play mine solely because of his potential reaction

[strong moth]

I need to work mine up in difficulty a bit before I think it’ll get any traction

[elder raven]

the one i was making was maybe too difficult lol

but i was experimenting with using different weapons so ill try again

[frail bloom]

I'm going with diablo, bc I see a bear

Doom has no bear enemies as far as I'm aware

[green estuary]

Yeah ain’t no bears in TDA

[slender night]

Yet 🤫

I have no idea how I didn't notice the bear at first

[frail bloom]

Not only that but also a snake

[elder raven]

bear and snake in the dlc which comes out in 6 minutes

[frail bloom]

Peak cinema

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-king-von-anti-piracy-screen-tooth-gif-1319938138399156740

[strong moth]

Yeah mine is certainly easy compared to the ones I’ve played lol

[slender night]

Don't we have a snake with the Whiplash already

[elder raven]

im so tired im using life sigils

i cant take it anymore

[tawny pond]

how many you use?

[elder raven]

this run is so torturous

[elder raven]

ive used 3 or 4 so far

[tawny pond]

in total or?

[elder raven]

total

[tawny pond]

what difficulty?

[elder raven]

nightmare but 500 damage to me, 50% to demons

[tawny pond]

yeah i feel your pain haha

[whole sky]

good lord

[elder raven]

im not ready for belly of the beast im terrified

[green estuary]

Have fun with the stomach acid

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-michael-jordan-meme-michael-jordan-gif-michael-jordan-tiktok-michael-jordan-tiktok-gif-gif-6954557651636549608

[green jetty]

Hello

[solar spoke]

Briefly forgot this was a dark ages server and thought that someone was having issues for a second 😂

I'm so stupid today for some reason lol

[wispy matrix]

Real

[strong moth]

Arachnophobia is so crazy man. Finally cleared round 3 like FINALLY but round 3 has a respawn? What is this?? Anyway, love this game

[crisp zinc]

we all got those days bro

the only difference is if you let if stop you from ripping and tearing

until it is done.

[violet zealot]

...

https://tenor.com/view/yes-happy-new-year-gif-24516985

[warm ibex]

I thought the third round was a little too easy so I added a respawn instead of more enemies

[crisp zinc]

it’s horde gaming!

[violet zealot]

[obsidian shard]

did the same for Demonic Discordance! Round 3 Was a little easier so gave it 2 rounds (Plus needed something to take up that 8 minute timer)

[violet zealot]

𝚆𝚑𝚒𝚌𝚑 𝚒𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚎𝚜𝚝 𝚁𝙸𝙿𝙰𝚃𝙾𝚛𝚒𝚊𝚖 𝚌𝚘𝚍𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚎𝚜𝚝???

*𝚛𝚒𝚙𝚊𝚝𝚘𝚛𝚒𝚞𝚖

[elder raven]

try jay's new encounter

its really fun

[harsh egret]

Tomorrow ill have to take a round of playing more people's presets and start on my next one

These exams got me fked up

[obsidian shard]

Hope they all go well fo you dude!

[frosty roost]

I really wanna make a preset but idk what to have it as

[obsidian shard]

Does anyone have the ripatorium 2.0 logo as a Png by chance?

[harsh egret]

I was looking it up too before but didnt find it anywhere sadly

[strong moth]

Let’s start tagging all the team members relentlessly until they post it here I’m sure they’d enjoy that

[obsidian shard]

nah

[frail bloom]

I got a new preset, more beneficial for beginners

[warm ibex]

i WILL try your encounter....

when I have time

[frail bloom]

I think I'll make a hard version too

[elder raven]

i mean i could edit it and send it to you

ill do that soon

[obsidian shard]

itss fine i did it

thank you tho

[elder raven]

no problem

[frail bloom]

Nvm it's boring

I'll post it tommorrow

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-sad-walk-away-walking-gif-8556737310204776218

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[split saddle]

I wish the khalim village arena for ripafartrium was a bit better

It’s just bland and flat

I see myself using the cosmic and uhhh blue hell one way more

[frail bloom]

I think that's intentional

It makes the arena different

If you want a flat map, you choose khalim

[obsidian shard]

Harbor of souls

[frail bloom]

If you want a map with high elevation, harbor of souls

[obsidian shard]

"Blue Hell one"

[frail bloom]

If you want good cover, city of ry'uul

[split saddle]

😭

[split saddle]

I guess true, the ranged heavies along with a tyrant on that map are brutal

On village

[obsidian shard]

T-T-Tyrant?

[split saddle]

cyberdemon gosh

GRRRR STOP CORRECTING ME

[frail bloom]

Man the dev direct was so peak

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-major-spelling-mistake-spelling-mistake-gif-25140477

[frail bloom]

Although the marketing was a little misleading lol

"For returning players from doom 2016"

Then Hugo goes on to talk abt the slayers testaments

[obsidian shard]

Real, People seemed to love the music in it, But suddenly when the announcement of who's making, its suddenly a different opinion!

(Trailer 1 is very evadent of this ngl)

[frail bloom]

I did notice that, in a lot of Doomtuber streams

They hear it and you hear a dissapointing "oh"

Not accusatory here but it did sound like it bummed a lot of ppl

[frail bloom]

Oh yea ppl thought andrew composed it

I'm glad it was fm, because they prove that anyone can make doom music

It doesn't have to be someone who's super acquainted with doom, just a good composer

[obsidian shard]

So real

[tranquil badge]

I like that they went for a blend of orchestra strings and other instruments you wouldn't think to be in a metal soundtrack

[obsidian shard]

Taglaharpa is so peak

[frail bloom]

It's a weird hybrid, just like the game

In a peak way

[obsidian shard]

They had to commission one, and same with a Giant Elk skin drum from Ontario or Quebec

[tranquil badge]

Absolute cinema

[frail bloom]

Bruh you think they'll have new instruments for the dlc

What else can they use

[split saddle]

The triangle

[frail bloom]

The frickin hurdy gurdy

[tranquil badge]

A harp

[frail bloom]

A Shawm

Organ

[tranquil badge]

A balalaika

[frail bloom]

Wait

Is there an organ in this ost? I don't think so

[split saddle]

A harmonica

[frail bloom]

Quick I need to hear doom music with organs blaring

[tranquil badge]

Maybe a synth that sounds like an organ

[frail bloom]

Big bad erebus with an organ soundtrack

[tranquil badge]

I know there's a medieval cover of bfg division on Spotify

[frail bloom]

You fight a high council member and organs blast

[tranquil badge]

Might have an organ

[frail bloom]

Is this relatively new?

[split saddle]

I have an organ

[tranquil badge]

I don't think so?

[frail bloom]

Like, a year past

[split saddle]

It’s inside of me

[frail bloom]

Bruh

[tranquil badge]

Let me go find it rq

It's from 2020

[obsidian shard]

They also used Pieces of grass

to make demonic screaming

[tranquil badge]

"Bfg division Medieval hardcore party mix"

[frail bloom]

And they say they aren't creative

[tranquil badge]

I remember seeing that in one of their videos

They also made the chanting by overlaying their voices like 50 times

[obsidian shard]

Heres some of the Stuff they used:

Apprehension engine
Balalaika
Blades of grass
Bowed acoustic guitar
Cello
Choir (Finishing Move themselves)
Double bass
Death Machine
Elk-skin drums
HAPAS ASHEN 628 Buster Odeholm Signature.
Mandolin
Metal Sculpture (From The Callisto Protocol)
Nordic bass tagelharpa

[tranquil badge]

Honestly most of the criticism I saw was just "it nots mick therefore bad"

[obsidian shard]

pretty much

[tranquil badge]

When you actually listen to the soundtrack and in game it slaps hard

[obsidian shard]

The Game rips go so hard

[tranquil badge]

Indeed

[frail bloom]

That's resourceful

[tranquil badge]

I need like a 20 minute rip of blood spill and theomachy

[frail bloom]

I'm of the controversial opinion

[obsidian shard]

they also use Neural DSP Synths

which is fucking PEAK

[frail bloom]

That Doom osts should have lyrics, but only in the cutscenes

I seem to have driven the crowd away

C'mon lyrics are peak it just depends on its execution

[obsidian shard]

The Sentinel Lyrics/Chanting would be good but english.... nah

[frail bloom]

No not chanting

You're thinking too small

Kinda like those sonic osts

With a main singer and some driving song in the backround

consider it

[frail bloom]

I thought they used a violin

[obsidian shard]

Chello

and Mandolin https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1444871925393391667/OIP_16.webp?ex=692e4957&is=692cf7d7&hm=0cf8c4c13eeb92dff70c2eed5ea397fa1eaa5b479fe633ad87027603f6b41af5&

[elder raven]

im gonna chime in: “break through it all” goes strangely well with the dark ages

[frail bloom]

Ah this guy gets it

But have it all doom like

It's prob super hard to pull off but if they do it, it's gonna be peak of peak

[frail bloom]

I remember in a short fm posted of unholy siege, they used some string instrument

It looked like a violin to me, or viola

[obsidian shard]

That would be a Chello!

They are apart of the same family as violins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1444873856614535198/R_1.jpg?ex=692e4b23&is=692cf9a3&hm=fec0fbfb5badc0ddc58db3d242102afbde8ed10b3270a613312717c6c0b04ab3&

[elder raven]

can we get a fiddle in the dlc

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-spn-lucifer-fiddle-of-gif-5253912

[sour crater]

i am struggling against aggadon champions

[crude sparrow]

I feel like they're the marauders of the dark ages

I hate the homing skulls they're annoying

I feel like the strat is to clear out the arena first so you can fight him 1 on 1

[sour crater]

the first round of sadistic is not fun

you have a hyper aggressive baron and 3000 homing skulls lol

[crude sparrow]

I really liked that one tbh xD

[green estuary]

the first round of sadistic is the easiest round in the preset lol

[crude sparrow]

also you can easily punish the aggadon hunters with the dreadmace

they get stunned after 3 parries leaving them open to the dreadmace hit

[sour crater]

i think i got it figured out

i stunlock the aggadon and go ham on him with the impaler

[crude sparrow]

that works too

tho the chainshot is also pretty good since it charges up after every parry

[green estuary]

there are a million different ways to kill agaddons in this game

just pick your poison

[crude sparrow]

I mean there are a million different ways to kill anything here

I think they wanted to move away from that advanced rock paper scissors thing eternal had

where each demon had a weakness to a different weapon

[green estuary]

yeah but agaddons and cyberdemons are just very open canvases since they kinda just stand in one spot

[crude sparrow]

true

[sour crater]

i am so glad they added keybinds to switch melees

[crude sparrow]

currently I'm not really switching that much during combat because it resets your charges but still beats having to pause the game to change it

lowkey I think they should let you keep the melee charges when you switch

idk why they have to punish you for that

[sour crater]

there could be the possibility of infinite dreadmace charges

[crude sparrow]

I know for example the fists recharge way faster than the other 2 but why not just have all the recharge meters run in the background no matter which one you have equipped

so if you get a parry, it recharges 2 fist charges but only like a fifth of the dreadmace charge like it does normally (I don't actually know how much of the dreadmace gets recharged from one parry I'm guessing here)

[sour crater]

oh what tracks do you guys like to play while playing ripatorium

[green estuary]

I usually go for the end-game stuff
what lies below, into the void, wither and writhe, blood spill, colossus unleashed, theomachy

[sour crater]

it'd be cool if you could add your custom music

like the cybergrind

[green estuary]

keep your ultrakill nonsense away from the doom game please

[obsidian shard]

But Finishing Move created a banger soundtrack for us...

[sour crater]

that too

you know i think pincussion might be my favorite upgrade

[obsidian shard]

Ricochet my beloved

also the Accelarator IS Cracked, ive been sleeping on it,

[sour crater]

also can't forget the impaler being broken

ok so i can comfortably make it through the first 3 rounds of sadistic

istg acolytes are the most annoying

[elder raven]

its acolytes, komodos, and soldiers for me

[naive wigeon]

bro isnt wrong tho that would be a nice feature

[sour crater]

i would like to fight an actual marauder

i feel like he would fit perfectly in here

[green estuary]

hell nah
I'd rather not be constantly punished for mistakes I don't even make, thank you very much

[forest hatch]

i feel like it would make a lot of sense from a lore standpoint but argent d'nur isnt completely corrupted and fucked up yet

[green estuary]

I'm not even so concerned about the lore repercussions
marauders are just an awful enemy whose whole difficulty comes from their bugginess

[forest hatch]

i wouldnt even mind a complete gameplay rework for them that is nothing like they were in eternal

[ebon lynx]

Hey i've heard rumor of a secret agaddon encounter in siege 1, is this true?

[hard thistle]

That's OK. Marauders were a thing beforehand.

Marauders are Loyalist Night Sentinels who stayed loyal to the Maykrs even after the Slayer and his friends exposed their treachery in forging their pact with Hell and constructing the Nekravol Citadel.

[forest hatch]

oh truth truth. i need to go reread the codex i've become rusty with a lot of it besides the basic major plotpoints

[hard thistle]

So if TDA delves into the Civil War at all, we could definitely get them. They would just be living Marauders, i.e. without the fucked up skulls and horns.

(Since those only show up because they were revived by the Khan from death pre-Eternal.)

[hard thistle]

I have a guide in the pinned messages of #general to help with things like that. If you are bored, check it out sometime.

[forest hatch]

i think it would be just as awesome to see them before death, i hope the dlc gets into the civil war. though my theory is the umbral plains mentioned in the slayers testament since hugo said dark ages is gonna lead straight into it

[forest hatch]

i'll be sure to check it out!

[half plaza]

I can confirm that i had an encounter with an Aggadon in siege 1 exactly one time and i don't know how to trigger it again, i just remember walking along after doing the dog shield puzzle and him scaring the shit out of me

[hard thistle]

I'd hope to see Marauders and Gargoyles eventually, personally. They could totally reinvent how Marauders work; they aren't compatible with TDA in their current Eternal form.

[forest hatch]

i would as well, i really hope they flesh out even more stuff in the dlc and i hope part of it is the civil war because i really want to see that, not just read

[hard thistle]

I would temper my expectations though. Judging by the base game I suspect Hugo is more interested in telling smaller-scalr stories as vignettes from the lore, rather than big things that tie into serious lore things

Like most of TDA itself does not have much to do with Eternal's lore - it is mostly an original story that details shit we never even knew about.

[forest hatch]

they aren't super duper high i'd just like to see these things as i feel like they should be covered eventuslly and a prequel is the best place to do so

[hard thistle]

That is fair. I want those things too, though realistically I expect we will mainly get foreshadowing rather than specific appearances.

[mystic barn]

Deadass?

[half plaza]

Yes, i am being serious

[hard thistle]

That's funny as fuck if true.

That's like running into a Marauder in Cultist Base

[mystic barn]

You're on Xbox, yeah?

[half plaza]

Yes

[mystic barn]

I'll see if I can recreate it on PC. Sounds like a fun little jumpscare if I can get it

[obsidian shard]

Others have reported the same thing, I got it at launch and no idea how, been trying to replicate it, but have no clue on how to get it again

[loud torrent]

Anyone else play on the msi claw here?

[violet zealot]

𝙸 𝚍𝚘𝚗'𝚝

[fleet spruce]

ROG Ally X user here

[warm ibex]

I've heard that it can be activated by returning to a certain area of the map instead of exiting after completing the main objectives, but take that with a grain of salt. The person who said that could've encountered the agaddon at that time by pure coincidence (or could've been lying lol)

[ebon lynx]

Can't send a link or screenshot but I am seeing an old reddit post mentioning a siege agaddon secret encounter

would be a fun mystery to solve

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[loud torrent]

How is it?

[fleet spruce]

Great so far, with the introduction of handheld preset i get 60 FPS overall at 720p

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/doomslayer-good-morning-gm-rise-and-shine-doom-gif-9103119344694928571

Nice

[loud torrent]

W I get 30 upscaled alot at 900p

1600 by 900

[hazy pasture]

Greetings

[fleet spruce]

oh that's within expectations , i get 30-45 fps at 1080p and in both cases i use FSR quality since it's still easier on the system than raw resolution

[jaunty plaza]

Downloading Doom: The Dark Ages right now, picked it up on the steam sale, I really hope I enjoy it

[random sand]

you will. it's peak

[uneven mesa]

Am i the only one who would like to have a way to save my ripatorium presets (without have to write the code every time) ?

[wide siren]

no, it would be great to be able to save one or two personal presets similar to the premade ones

[frosty roost]

you will, game is fantastic!

[small dew]

Chads I reached ultra nightmare chapter 8 any tips so I dont crashout?

[random sand]

Absue the ever living shit outta your shield

[mystic barn]

Uhhh don’t die

[small dew]

Plus I noticed something is the game just way easier on pc or am trash on console

[small dew]

That would be almost impossible because my left stick dont work

[random sand]

Then you buy a new controller

[naive wigeon]

try taking a break from the game since burnout can lead to more moments of frustration

when i was running ultra nightmare i did it over the span of a week

[small dew]

Alr

[small dew]

Bro you just the chad

[naive wigeon]

when i tried to do a one sitting run i ended up dying in a mech section lol

[naive wigeon]

nah im js a casual player bro

[small dew]

Nah you chad fr

[naive wigeon]

also u should invest in the rocket launcher

[random sand]

I can't even go through the game in one sitting on easy let alone UN. The game's too long😭

[naive wigeon]

exactly

[random sand]

UN took me like months

[simple mist]

How do we feel about the ||shredder?|| (tiny doom tda spoiler censored)

[harsh egret]

#merch-showcase message
The art book is here @obsidian shard

[harsh egret]

No need to mark things as spoiler 👍

I think the weapon is great and also just fun to use especially against the mancubus and baron

[sour crater]

Oh shredder is awesome

Pincussion goes crazy

[simple mist]

I kinda perfer using the plasma accelerator with heatblast,but it has its use cases for sure

[harsh egret]

the shredder also just feels nice to use

actually pretty good against acolytes too if u lock them down with the shield

with the pincussion upgrade

[sour crater]

I like to use it against the revenants

Or the parry heavy enemies

[harsh egret]

that too

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443708351245582488/1445059296080560283/image.png?ex=692ef7d8&is=692da658&hm=147752e2b442f163c2e612e267a524bbf7079fbae09bc37c2b48a7f209ffa44a&

Back to the writing grind! Now I'm finally writing an actual story rather than guide bullshit.

[hazy pasture]

Holy PEAK

Goddamn mono

[hard thistle]

Haha thank you.

[ionic glade]

Sick!

[tame radish]

Thank you ID Software for Dark Ages, I love it 💕

[astral blade]

which weapons, shield, melee upgrades are worth getting?

[green estuary]

obviously all the shield upgrades are worth getting eventually, but by the end of Hebeth I like to have ricochet for the shredder as well as the first two shield upgrades

[slender night]

I think you'd have to specifically go out of your way to not get the shield upgrades if you don't want them

[green estuary]

yeah pretty much

as far as weapon upgrades, on my UN run I mostly focused on getting the SSG and rocket launcher upgrades first, then after those were fully upgraded I put some currency into the shredder/cycler/ravager

[hazy pasture]

@hard thistle what do you think about the location Slayer crashed into after bashing outta Harbor of Souls? In files it's named Limbo but in Harbor of Souls codex it's stated that it is the first layer of Hell and if we consider Dante's Inferno, Limbo is stated to be the very first layer of Hell.

[hard thistle]

IIRC there's concept art showing Limbo was going to have its own level before it was scrapped.
My opinion: The Harbor is where the souls of Hell's victims go. The forest area we see the Slayer go to is a limbo between Hell and the mortal realm; a gap in the void, basically. If you ask me, he would've been stuck here if not for Valen's ritual.

I like to see Limbo as its own place outside Hell, but that's just me.

[hazy pasture]

Makes sense ngl

But that blood pool at the end of Limbo is interesting. I mean it looks cool and could be there because of the blood ritual performed by Sentinels but I hope there's some deeper reason connected to the already ambiguous lore of Limbo

Or Doom lore in general

[astral blade]

what do you think about the combat shotgun upgrades that drop armor?

[harsh egret]

i really wish it was smth longer, wouldve loved to have a mini-level in there, cool atmosphere and stuff

[gusty seal]

bro u ok? 😉 @harsh egret

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxbejcG6SvD9LOPyfd3uHBIcd4PS_0dj3X?si=50VeC7hdZCUx17Ce anyone down for a Dark spin off where you play as davoth in ancient times before being sealed away? stilll kind of doom guy on the surface (was inspired by @warm ibex poll post) see the battle of heaven and hell before it was ever heaven or hell ? sounds dope to mee

[green estuary]

Some people like it but I’d rather just stick with the ssg
The armor drop from the combat shotgun is pretty minimal which doesn’t offset the low damage it deals compared to the ssg

[grim cloud]

its great eariler in the game but ssg pretty much replaces it once that is upgraded. at least that is my opinion

10 days till TGA. will there be a tease? id say 50/50. dlc still braising in demons blood

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[harsh egret]

sup

[harsh egret]

oh yeah players choice round 1 is out for TGA, u know what to vote

tho since expedition 33 is nominated for that too then it might be even more likely for it to win players choice than goty

[grim cloud]

i havn't been paying attention to the nominees sadly. guess ill look

[harsh egret]

yeah its completely understandable to not really care about them tbh

[grim cloud]

i just dont like all the "fake hype" that comes from it.

[harsh egret]

yeah

[grim cloud]

ugh wants me to sign in, maybe i link my twitter troll account to it

[harsh egret]

lmao

[hearty edge]

naw dude ricochet all the way

[hearty edge]

all

[astral blade]

i keep pressing y to use flame belch lol

[oak tulip]

do you guys think TDA is better than eternal?

[meager vortex]

better

[wheat sigil]

no
that's not because erm new game bad because new

but i don't think other's ranking of games matters at all outside of maybe being interesting to see what others think

[obsidian shard]

Neither is better

It's all preferences

[manic arch]

TDA is better in every aspect besides gunplay

Oh and movement

[obsidian shard]

That's Subjective, not outright correct

[manic arch]

I am a sucker for dashing and double jumping

[obsidian shard]

Fair

[manic arch]

What constitutes better is mostly subjective

I find them too different to actually compare

The style, the weaponry and gimmick, and the monsters are all incredibly different

[obsidian shard]

Ong tho,

[manic arch]

TDA has a slower and dark approach to things while Eternal is arcadey and fast

Doom 2016 and Eternal are more fair to compare then TDA and Eternal

Like Doom and Doom 2

Also, 2016’s atmosphere is so much better than Eternals

I love the darker and gritty atmosphere, much better on the eyes

TDA and 2016 are Doom in darkmode with Eternal being on lightmode

[grim cloud]

im waiting to play DLC before i make that judgement

TDA has a much longer campaign, that is what i love most about it. but no MP

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1445124280022077461/Doom_3_cover_front.png?ex=692f345d&is=692de2dd&hm=8538ed1c741c12da5929562ecade7141c041c5f442ad8cf9897a95836ce0b2f1&

[brazen fable]

but its so dark tho

[wheat sigil]

i'd say eternal and tda are closer tho

[manic arch]

How even?

[cerulean pagoda]

i think eternal is better but tda is not far behind

[harsh vine]

both are w, eternal is fast paced, while TDA is more heavier and slower

[thin hound]

The Dark Ages is anything but slower

It’s already faster than Eternal at 120% game speed

[cerulean pagoda]

at max settings it is absolutely not

[thin hound]

Yeah if you’re finding that it is slower, you need to adjust your settings a little bit

[cerulean pagoda]

on default settings i can understand it is noticeably slower

[narrow dragon]

I hope TDA's playstyle is used in more DOOM games.

[wheat sigil]

tda compared to eternal without utilizing techs can become faster quite easily

but if you play eternal very well, i'd say it's faster than tda at 150% speed

[thin hound]

I hope the DLC will add more green flesh nodes to combat arenas

[obsidian shard]

Hello spear

[merry jackal]

Bruh

Tda premium edition is just 50 bux

I bought the standard one for 60

🤦

[elder raven]

if its on steam i think they let you refund it so you can buy the premium one

[merry jackal]

Ps store sadly

😭

Is there a huge difference in the editions

[manic arch]

No

Just that you’ll have to buy the deluxe version upgrade

[elder raven]

i dont think its worth it to be honest, you get skins and the artbook which you can either buy in real life or just look at it online

[frail bloom]

I'm hoping for a trailer

It has been a long time

[slender night]

And you get the DLC on release, which is like, the most important part :p

[frail bloom]

By the time TGA rolls around it would have been 7 months since release

[elder raven]

i forgot about that

[frail bloom]

So y'know hoping to see smt cool soon :p

[frail bloom]

Doom 3 does have great atmosphere but it's tiring to play at times for me

I was a little miffed when I had to go back to uac bases after just experiencing hell for the first time

Also kinda crazy how similar 2016 is to Doom 3 not just in design but story structure

[harsh egret]

dlc trailer and tda collab with diablo 4

cinema if that happens

[frail bloom]

It makes sense to me

In terms of marketing

Would be a good opportunity

[manic arch]

Doom 3 and 2016 match really well. Darker grittier visuals

[brazen fable]

diablo 4 is 9th for next season i believe. the time is now! lol

[manic arch]

I need a modern take on 64

[frail bloom]

Ye we don't have that yet

Dark ages doesn't count for me

[manic arch]

Yeah, TDA and 64 were very different especially vibes wise

Honestly I’d dig a direct remake of 64

[obsidian shard]

You're cooking

[harsh egret]

would be hype

[uneven dragon]

And by the time the dlc pulls up I won’t have a pc to play it 😭

I wish I just paid for regular

[grim cloud]

tag1/2 got new cover art. I wonder what the DLC will look like.

DE got two actually, so 4 total

[frail bobcat]

@hard thistle I think you made a mistake with Absolute Doom Iirc the codex for the Dark Ages say the enemies filling the role of the possessed Marines from other games are just demons not possessed people

[warm ibex]

really really hoping they get Thomas Elliot to make the TDA dlc cover art. The work he created for the campaign is probably my favorite cover art in franchise history

[manic arch]

True, its very good

[hard thistle]

The Codex in TDA is very vague and doesn't make reference to the past identities of the soldiers, but they are definitely implied to be Sentinel zombies. They wear Sentinel armor.

Keep in mind, zombies are demons.

[frail bobcat]

Oh sorry it's too dark to tell

[grim cloud]

who made the others? different people? art style is very much alike

[hard thistle]

So when TDA calls zombie soldiers demons, it's not wrong.

[frail bobcat]

I didn't know it did lol

Maybe I forgot

[manic arch]

Oof, you’re gonna have to double up on your lore

[frail bobcat]

That's why I'm reading Absolute Doom

[grim cloud]

my knowledge of lore use to be pristine

[manic arch]

I’m soon to read Mono’s lore thing

[hard thistle]

Yeah, hang on, here's a definition for you.

The term “Demon” in DOOM can best be described to refer to an inhabitant of Hell that is not an Immoran. That is to say, the term describes a litany of different species, with varying levels of sentience and application in warfare. Some demons appear to be “Hell citizens,” in that they are sapient beings capable of thought and participating in Hell society ; others are “Hell wildlife,” in that they are animals that act out of instinct or self-preservation ; and others are “demon lords,” in that they are demons of high authority who rule over Hell or specific areas in Hell.

Note that not all demons are native to Hell. Several demon species are in fact assimilated species from other worlds. Sometimes this is achieved via corruption of an entity through Hell energy, which will rapidly mutate the subject and transform them into a slave of Hell’s will. Other times, this is achieved via the successful conquering of a world and the subsequent migration of its species into Hell. The series is not entirely consistent as to its usage of the term “demon” in regards to non-native enemies; for example, Marauders are categorized as demons in DOOM Eternal, despite working for the Khan Maykr and only helping Hell at her behest.

In this guide, the term “demon” is used to refer to any entity that is 1) aligned with Hell on an ontological level , and 2) not an Immoran.

TLDR the series seems to refer to any being that is under Hell's influence and not an Immoran "demon." Whether it's a person, an animal, a corrupted species not native to Hell, etc...

[manic arch]

Ontological?

[frail bobcat]

Also just realized this means I'm gonna have to make these possessed sentinels more difficult in compliance to my project making the possessed as smart as they were before the evil spirit/Deadite/Lost Soul or what have you possessed them

[manic arch]

I have a big vocabulary but I don’t know ontological

[grim cloud]

are cosmic beings always demons? i wonder when they became demons.

[frail bobcat]

I misspelled Deadite

[hard thistle]

i.e. relating to the nature of being. As in, if a being is aligned with Hell on an ontological level, their alignment is a facet of the laws of Hell's reality itself. It is innate and incapable of being changed.

[frail bobcat]

Fixed

[hard thistle]

Blood Maykrs are demons because they're under Hell's influence. Zombies are demons for that same reason.

[manic arch]

Gotcha, word feels familiar but doesn’t ring the bells loud enough

[hard thistle]

Where we get into more muddled waters are the Cosmic enemies in TDA, and Marauders.

[grim cloud]

i always seperate undead and demon in my world building classic camp. then there are devils.

[frail bobcat]

I thought of it this way that the evil spirit controling the poor marine is the demon

Not the body they're possessing

[grim cloud]

undead reanimated by demonic possession

or influence

[manic arch]

Jarvis, possess his ass

[frail bobcat]

I thought they were possessed while alive

Lol

[grim cloud]

yah i dont know if they can only be possessed while alive. i dont think a demon cares

[hard thistle]

Well, they call it Possessed, but it's not totally clear if they're literally possessed by a demon or if it's more a vague concept of possession, i.e. possessed by Hell's spirit or force. Or like the saying, "a man possessed."

[frail bobcat]

I assume literal as in an evil spirit enters and controls their body mainly cause of the Doom Bible and Doom 3

[hard thistle]

I don't think zombies are literally being controlled by demons. Moreso I think Hell energy can corrupt the minds of mortals with feeble or average wills, and it changes their brain chemistry and thinking in a way that gives them essentially the minds of demons.

[manic arch]

I mean, Doom 3 shows possession on that screen in the beginning of the game right? Unless those guys are different cause Doom 3 is iffy on the timeline

[grim cloud]

so rage virus versus raised dead

one is still "alive" but gone mad

[hard thistle]

I'm a bit fuzzy on it, but IIRC we would see glowing giant skulls pass through human bodies, then fly off and disappear, and the body would become a zombie.

I don't think the skull would just stick around inside the body but I don't remember for sure.

[frail bobcat]

The skull doesn't fly off after touching the body Iirc

[manic arch]

I don’t remember the skull leaving the scientist

[grim cloud]

the only thing however, is that the human bodies look partially decomposed. we dont get that with other wildlife like gargoyles

[manic arch]

Or the solider

[frail bobcat]

I haven't gotten that far yet

[manic arch]

Its literally in the start of the game

[grim cloud]

so that is why i tink something different has happened. also the zombies in Doom 2016 are a very different breed of mutated possessed

[frail bobcat]

I only got up to the part where the scientist you were supposed to find gets possessed

I don't remember seeing any Marines get possessed on screen

[manic arch]

You kill him and then on the screen you watch a possession of the solider

[slender night]

Literally turn to your left

[brazen fable]

everybody gets a demon! u get a demon!

[manic arch]

Evil Oprah

[hard thistle]

https://youtu.be/BbwIS5VOuL8?t=630
The skull flies off in Doom 3 VR edition after it hits Ishii. I'm assuming this is accurate to the original.

[frail bobcat]

Oh it's on the screens my bad lol probably forgot or didn't notice

[frail bobcat]

Let me pull up the original scene

[manic arch]

I literally have like 300 hours on Doom 3, I should remember this

But I don’t remember

[frail bobcat]

https://youtu.be/VwIzdPGVJvw?si=FCVFfzTl2bfBXrvM 23:05 guess I misremembered

Or a change made in the BFG edition which I never played

But BFG is more recent and thus more canon

[hard thistle]

Yeah, this gives me a vibe that it's less "demon entering the body" and more "demon touches body with Hell energy, corrupting them."

[frail bobcat]

Yeah that's probably it

[hard thistle]

Also BFG Edition sucks. I like the original one more. The canon one is whichever I like more.

[uneven dragon]

[manic arch]

Real af

Thats why Doom 3’s canon version is the one I made up in my head

[frail bloom]

Where dark ages caco

[uneven dragon]

Doom 3’s canon version is my gameplay. Anything that didn’t happen to me didn’t happen to anyone else

[slender night]

It was only for that week

[frail bobcat]

Nuts was kinda hoping I could have the possessed enemies be some sort of deadite or deadite like entity complete with manic laughter

[frail bloom]

Yo true it's gonna look so peak with the new enemies on the poster

[hard thistle]

I mean we do have demons that actually possess things. Spirits in The Ancient Gods possess other demons.

[uneven dragon]

I mean nothing’s stopping you

It’s not like the enemies haven’t been interpreted wildly different across Doom writers

[manic arch]

Green pinkies Doom RPG

[frail bloom]

Green pinkies are awesome

[frail bobcat]

Funny you mention that

[manic arch]

Wait a second

Visible Specters are green in Doom 64

[frail bobcat]

True

[uneven dragon]

*yellow

They’re yellow in RPG and 64

[frail bobcat]

Greenish yellow

[manic arch]

He’s definitely green to me

[uneven dragon]

I wish the Spectres were coloured differently in nudoom

They’re yellow in 64 and blue in RPGs

[manic arch]

He’s sewer green in 64

[brazen fable]

that def green

[manic arch]

Someone post the 64 spectre

[brazen fable]

i literally just closed the web browser lmao

[uneven dragon]

Yea looking at it now it’s greeny

I think my computer monitor is a bit cooked

[manic arch]

Its yellow when you first see it because its under a yellow spotlight

I remember that because its a perfect circle spotlight which is weird compared to everything else

[uneven dragon]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen them in game outside of yellow lighting

[frail bobcat]

We can't the Vega bot won't let me

[manic arch]

True

[uneven dragon]

You can post the doomwiki file link

as in the actual doomwiki

[frail bobcat]

But all the good renders are on the old wiki

[uneven dragon]

Then upload on another server and link to the file attachment

[frail bobcat]

Sorry

[manic arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217338078021292103/1445166109228662784/IMG_2608.webp?ex=692f5b52&is=692e09d2&hm=b0fba6d4843bd9a59c554610e2845bec7e44598d15b0e46e360c6f4ffb3d96a7&

[uneven dragon]

Vomit colour

[manic arch]

He green af

[uneven dragon]

Speaking of doomwiki (the actual one)

In Doom 64 specifically, inactive spectres are initially rendered as opaque demons with a green tint (a nod back to the nightmare spectre),

Is there a citation for that last part?

I should probably ask this in #classic-doom actually

[manic arch]

The idle ones look like the pic I posted

You can watch them turn invisible when they become active

[frail bobcat]

Oh he is yellow my bad

Hard to tell with lighting

[violet zealot]

They look green 🟢 to me

[jagged patio]

yo anyone up?

[green estuary]

Nah I’m asleep

[jagged patio]

me too

[fading osprey]

it’s 5:17 pm for me…

[jagged patio]

its 23:17 for me

[fading osprey]

damn

[jagged patio]

i think we are gonna get a spear in the dlc

azhreks spear

oh my bad

[green estuary]

It’s spelled “ass crack”

Just fyi

[violet zealot]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[harsh vine]

or maybe they’ll unlock us the crucible sword