the-dark-ages

[harsh egret]

they just spam and snipe u from 50 yards

[green estuary]

the true doom 2 experience

[frail bloom]

Finally they're back

[sudden stump]

I'm glad they brought chain gunners back but I wish they were l a r g e like classic doom

[harsh egret]

"making chaingunners more of a threat" yeah they did.

there's always a next doom

[frail bloom]

I am having the time of my life

[harsh egret]

same and i cant wait to get to act2/3 lol

[sudden stump]

the crack ages

[frail bloom]

I actually feel like that yes

[frail bloom]

What level you on

[neon perch]

This is honestly what HM for Eternal should've been like.

[harsh egret]

im at the vagary bossfight

[neon perch]

This is more what I imagined the Ripatorium would be like.

[frail bloom]

It's so fun man

[frail bloom]

I'm ahead of you

On holy city

[neon perch]

Wait so the AI limit is 60?

[harsh egret]

yes

[neon perch]

Hugo I thought you said there was no limit.

HUGO.

[frail bloom]

He never said that

[harsh egret]

its endless

[green estuary]

well the limit is 2x eternal's limit

[frail bloom]

He said the time is endless

[sudden stump]

more like no limit to my rage

[frail bloom]

If you want it to

[neon perch]

He said he asked the team during development what the AI limit was this time around and he said they never reached it and 'wasn't sure if there even was one to boot'.

[harsh egret]

doom the endless ages

[neon perch]

Unrealistic in hindsight, and 60 is still a generous amount, but still.

[harsh egret]

well fps wise i think u will like the 60 limit

[frail bloom]

But later after when he was asked how much ai on screen he said not exactly double but almost double the ai

So like 60

Which is very close to doubling eternal's

[neon perch]

It's funny how each iteration of the engine has doubled AI spawn limits. 2016's was 12 iirc, Eternal's is 32 and TDA's is 60.

[frail bloom]

Next is 120?????

Holy crap a real war

[neon perch]

Here's a better idea, MAKE ENEMIES SPRITEBASED SO THEY DON'T TAX THE ENGINE AND YOU CAN HAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF THEM.

[frail bloom]

Next time I'm in the ripatorium imma just spawn in a bunch of fodder and tear through everything

[neon perch]

GIVE US NUTS.WAD.

[sudden stump]

one shield throw will max your dopamine receptors

[neon perch]

RAAAAGHHHHH.

[frail bloom]

It already feels like that with the amount of superheavies on screen

Peak update

[neon perch]

I'll give it a spin.

[frail bloom]

Is he gone?

He's gonna frickin die lmao

Horde what are you typing

It seems huuuuge

[hard thistle]

Just played Ripatorium and it was GLORIOUS!!!!

[frail bloom]

And the fun will never end

[split gate]

Even if TDA’s Ripatorium is somewhat basic, it is loads more better than Eternal’s

Fun factor has increased

[neon perch]

Probably because it actually is a proper Horde Mode.

[split gate]

Exactly

[neon perch]

Eternal's was basically just arcade mode again.

[frail bloom]

And here's the most important part

it's in 1.0

[neon perch]

Sucks they couldn't let us play with enemy spawns or time limits.

[split gate]

Yep, I just want a randomiser

[solar cairn]

There is actually a lack of presets and some kind of leaderboard

[split gate]

We are a bit closer to heaven

[sudden stump]

Ask the devs and they'll probably add it, they said they'll keep expanding ripatorium

I wager this is all added to keep us occupied until the DLC and master levels though

[split gate]

Given that the majority of the feedback for it has been a randomiser, it will definitely be next in line

[harsh egret]

good time to ask on hugo's stream today

in 8 minutes!

[frail bloom]

In 8 minutes too

[split gate]

Although I am surprised that we didn’t get a Master Level but definitely not complaining

[frail bloom]

Hugo is gonna look so smug

What did I tell y'all he says

[harsh egret]

oh fuck its a heretic showcase first

no tda stream just yet

[deep steeple]

MAN I'm dying so much, I fucking love it

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom

[frail bloom]

Alr imma stop playing today so I can watch the stream

[frail bloom]

What

[harsh egret]

i wrote above

[hearty edge]

masochist discovers his true identity

[frail bloom]

For how long?

[harsh egret]

no clue

[frail bloom]

I mean I'l take a break

[harsh egret]

im fine with it but my sleep schedule not so much

3 am already

[warm ibex]

I made a ripatorium preset that I think is pretty fun if anyone is interested, played for about 20 minutes on endless mode

[harsh egret]

ill write it down for later sure

[hasty stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-qJkx-mnCM

just started

[sudden stump]

In addition to randomization they should really add codes or otherwise the ability to share presets with others easily

[hasty stone]

yeah random would be great

[harsh egret]

they can update the gamemode into smth great

it already is but yes

[warm ibex]

"Oops! All Armor!"

5 Heated Shields, 10 Unheated Shields, 10 Energy Shields, 3 Chaingunners, 4 Imp Stalkers, 3 Battle Knights, 2 Battle Knight Leaders, 3 Armored Pinkies, 2 Pinky Leaders, 3 Armored Arachnotrons, 2 Mancubi, 2 Mortar Mancubi, 2 Armored Mancubi, 2 Mancubus Leaders, 2 Vagaries and 1 Vagary Champion

[sudden stump]

"ya know what, make you're own fucking master levels since you guys are so good"

[frail bloom]

That looks reaal fun

I didn't put energy shield soldiers in mine

[harsh egret]

how u finding the chaingunners now btw

[lament lotus]

Hey how does one get the quakecon skin btw?

[harsh egret]

fkin blasting me man

[frail bloom]

Fighting*

[warm ibex]

They're a little rough lmao

[split gate]

Oh yeah asking for everyone’s presets is a smart idea

[harsh egret]

ill have to play around after im done with the campaign also

[split gate]

I don’t usually like to decide enemy spawn and placement so I’m more than happy to try the presets everyone has 🙏

[frail bloom]

Alr imma play fortnite with my bro

I know I know it's heresy

[harsh egret]

[split gate]

Playing games with the bro is never heresy

[frail bloom]

The game is lmao

[harsh egret]

fortnite isnt a game

[frail bloom]

He's gonna be so lonely with the amount of time imma spend on dark ages

Least I can do is hang out

[split gate]

Okay fair, y’all enjoy youselves

[frail bloom]

WHERE'S MY DAMN SHIELD FORTNITE

[deep steeple]

hexen 1 was so hard

[spare panther]

God damn just found out the hard way you cant interrupt ssg reload anymore

[frail bloom]

Weird huh

Someone should ask hugo abt it

Sounds like a big issue

[spare panther]

its fucking up my muscle memory against super heavies lol

I thought it was intentional i didnt read the patch notes

[slim crypt]

jus came back

update looks incredible much more than i thought it would be

[frail bloom]

So it is a bug alr

[solar cairn]

In quickswitch?

[spare panther]

with the shield block

[sudden stump]

Can't block either after firing for some reason

[solar cairn]

Then yes..

We’re waiting for the hotfix for the patch

[spare panther]

Okay thank god its not intentional lol

[solar cairn]

You can send a description of the bug to the mail then, they should probably fix it quickly

I’ll try to check this bug later, if it’s confirmed, I’ll send them a bug report

[solid nacelle]

Is it just me or is the shield recovery time inconsistent in arena mode?

[frail bloom]

I feel it is longer in general

[deep steeple]

no slowmo, less parry window and 110% game speed is giving methe eternal rush again

[harsh egret]

personally im loving 60% slowmo

[hard thistle]

i'm experiencing a bug, can't reach kreed maykr in Resurrection. The red laser wall to progress just won't go down

[old thunder]

I'm still having slowmo while turning it off completely. Is anoyone else still having it after disabling it?

[sleek hawk]

worked for me

[old thunder]

Initially it works fine. But rapid parries or melee strikes regain the slowmo

[dark thunder]

DLC my beloved, I have great expectations for your reveal

[sleek hawk]

was having the same problem, shi was confusing me hella

[wintry nexus]

150 speed is even crazier

[sleek hawk]

I think it requires further tweaking, cause there's moments where the slow mo (at least for me) kind of reactivates again (not as strong tho

[sleek hawk]

That's what I be playin on

[wintry nexus]

Me too

[deep steeple]

150 is too much for my old bones

[wintry nexus]

Hm, I get it

[sleek hawk]

how old is bro

[wintry nexus]

100

[sleek hawk]

tragic

[deep steeple]

I played the original doom when i was a kid

that old

[sleek hawk]

oh u aint that old

like what 30s, thats fine

[wintry nexus]

Well, I hope you enjoyed tda

[deep steeple]

I love tda

[sleek hawk]

The feel of its sick, I hope they add master levels soon

[wintry nexus]

The ripatorium is lagging my game

[green estuary]

bro wtf have they done to the chaingunners

[wintry nexus]

?

[harsh egret]

they're crazy

[green estuary]

they're such assholes now

[sleek hawk]

haven't seen

[harsh egret]

can confirm

[wintry nexus]

The shield guys?

[green estuary]

some of the shield guys are normal blaster soldiers
but the ones with the horned shield have the chainguns
those ones are absolutely insane now

[wintry nexus]

Oh fuck those guys, hate at first sight

[sleek hawk]

what changed?

[rotund rune]

How's it going guys?

[wintry nexus]

Never liked them, now ppl say they’re worse?

[rotund rune]

With the new game

[wintry nexus]

Fun as hell

[green estuary]

they're spammy asf now
and you can't just shield bash into them and flank them because they whack you with their shield

[rotund rune]

I'm wondering the same thing

[harsh egret]

"Addressed the Chaingunner Soldier’s target acquisition, fire rate, and overall player responsiveness"

[green estuary]

I think they might have a longer range now as well

[sleek hawk]

lookin at changes, also waiting on the quakecon skin atm, givin it 2 days

[green estuary]

they're absolutely evil 😂

[rotund rune]

How to get it tho?

[green estuary]

the purple skin you get by beating an arena in each ripatorium location

[sleek hawk]

connect your bethesda acc with whatever ur playing TDA on

[green estuary]

the other one you get by just playing the game I think

[sleek hawk]

like if its steam u connect it

[sleek hawk]

each arena, at least it doesnt matter what you fight

[spare panther]

Whens hugo streaming?

[wintry nexus]

I got like 4 minutes ago by accident lol

It’s cool

[green estuary]

yeah it's kinda nice

also mancs are so much tankier holy crap

thank goodness they removed one for the vagary fight because they're kinda bullet spongy now

[cobalt fog]

How do I speed up the melee hit

[frail bloom]

How you can rip through them so easy

Am I missing something

[sudden stump]

slowmo? Should be in gameplay settings

[wintry nexus]

Really? I tear them apart pretty easily, even when I lowered the damage to demons

[cobalt fog]

I thought there was supposed to be a specific setting for it

[sudden stump]

slowmo slider is for both the melee and parry slowdown, would be nice if they were separate but that is how it is

[frail bloom]

There are some slo mo slider glitches for sure

[wintry nexus]

Imagine the unicorn skin in doom tda

[frail bloom]

I love switching so fast I dislocate my shoulder from a shield throw lmao

[wintry nexus]

lol

[green estuary]

I mean they're not tanky to the point of being difficult

but they're noticeably more bullet spongy now
if they were to put two of them in the vagary champion fight it would probably take a fair bit longer, simply because you have to expend more ammo to kill the mancs

I'll check in the game files later to see how much HP got added on

[frail bloom]

This heretic stream is really long

[raw drum]

just came back from vibing to into the void

shits fire

[harsh egret]

well its 2 streams so makes sense first one is this

[frail bloom]

When is the second one

[harsh egret]

In like 40

[frail bloom]

40 min?

[harsh egret]

Mhm

[frail bloom]

Damn it

[gilded summit]

I HAVE TO REDO MY ENHANCED AZRAK FIGHT! NOOOOOO

[raw drum]

the enhanced azhrak fight was a pain

really hard imo

[deep steeple]

wish I could configure each weave on ripiatorium

[frail bloom]

Since it's in 1.0 they'll prob add an option like that at some point

[deep steeple]

yeah

[pallid wing]

When's the trailer for expansion?

[frail bloom]

Not happening rn brochacho

[uneven mortar]

I feel a little sad they didn't re-release Hexen 2

[split gate]

Horde mode is so peak guys

It’s so freaking fun, thanks so much id, this is literally what I want, now just waiting on randomiser

And I can hear the improvements of the music too

[frail bloom]

Lol now we already have ripatorium haters

It's apparently boring to make your own horde mode and fight any enemy you want

WHYYYYYYY

[split gate]

There will always be hate, I’m just happy to finally get what I’ve wanted since Eternal. Just ignore them, they’ll never be satisfied

[frail bloom]

No like literally

never

[split gate]

Yep, just keep supporting id, that’s all they need tbh

[frail bloom]

Let them sulk

Honestly shows who is experimentative and who's boring

Wanting a preset is different but literally trashing on the mode is just unbelievable

[sudden stump]

some people legit won't play the game unless the devs tell them exactly what to do lmao

[frail bloom]

It's so embarrasing

Not one ounce of creativity

[weary current]

the meme videos that are gonna come out of the ripatorium experience is gonna be fucking amazing

[frail bloom]

I'm already watching a hmmmp vid

The amount of funny

[split gate]

3 cyberdemons, 2 komodo

[rotund rune]

I can't configure each wave and when the enemies are going to spawn? Just a single wave which will repeat infinitely?

[frail bloom]

Ye not yet

But there are a million demon combinations you can mess around with

[rotund rune]

Tell me a good one

[frail bloom]

It's in 1.0 so it'll get some good changes for sure

[frail bloom]

I tried a vagary champion, 3 pinky riders, 3 mancubi, 3 hell knights, 20 unheated shield soldiers, 2 tyrants

[rotund rune]

Is there a cooldown on the shield now? What's happening?

[frail bloom]

The shield has always had a cooldown for its bash

And I guess when you break it

The best thing to do is not overdo the mode

No, you cannot handle 30 superheavies

Alr I gotta go eep so someone tell me hugo stuff later pls

[frank turtle]

chaingunners are crazy now

[hollow sandal]

Facts

[verbal void]

Ez

[shut bloom]

Did they not stream today?

[stray pollen]

Duuuuuuuude the first berserk room with no slo mo is AMAZING

[shut bloom]

I was hoping they did but quakecon so it’s coo🥲

[uneven mortar]

They streamed heretic

[shut bloom]

Was it not on YouTube?

Or was it on slayers club?

Either way I missed out🥲

[uneven mortar]

Its on YouTube slayers club

Still streaming i think

[supple yoke]

Yeah doom the dark ages is coming up

[shut bloom]

OH SHIIII RN I DIDNT MISS IT!!! LEERTSS GOOOOO INTO THE COSMIC REALM

[supple yoke]

Hugo is also loaded up with beaver nuggets as he caringly shared one with me. Thank you Hugo kind sir

[shut bloom]

I wish I could’ve gone this year! Unfortunately I’m working right now as I type this, next year for sure with some friends💪🏽

I would love to see the community as well as the team 💪🏽

[supple yoke]

Its such a joy. Next year should be very special as its the 30th anniversary of QCon. But the team makes it. I sat beside all of id when they were whispering about the secret QCon footage (they heard me basically screaming), they wave hi and shake hands and game with you. Truly a one of a kind studio

[slim crypt]

what’s everyone thinking about the update rn

[red elbow]

Random demons as an option in the new gamemode should be a thing

[shut bloom]

@supple yoke Hugo just showed his beaver nuggets😂

[verbal void]

Anyone wanna watch me livestream doom the peak ages?!?!?!?11?1!1?1!(cancelled)

[sudden stump]

bro ssg feels so ass, what is that delay for blocking after you fire

[green estuary]

yeah it's really noticeable I dunno wtf they did

I'm sure they'll put out a hotfix soon anyway

[supple yoke]

They're freshly opened, 10/10 would partake again (beaver nuggets are my secret addiction)

Ahh Hugo just upgraded to a 4030 🤡

[green estuary]

hugo the pc hardware savant lmao

[supple yoke]

He called a 5080 a 580 earlier its hilarious

[meager vortex]

ripartorium1.0 amazing!

[split gate]

Oh I love how the music in Horde Mode isn’t a copy and paste of just the offical track mixes

[velvet elbow]

My grandma went and bought me a fucking PS5 Pro for college. How the fuck do I even say thank you to that

[green estuary]

whoa

[velvet elbow]

I didn’t even ask her bro, what the fuck do I do

[neon perch]

They need to fuck off with the Cyberdemon's ground spikes rubberband you straight back into them.

Also delay from SSG -> blocking is gaaaaarbageeeeee.

[green estuary]

honestly the more threatening/annoying the superheavies are from range, the better

aside from their HP that's really what sets them apart from the regular heavies

[neon perch]

Agree, but they can fuck off with that shit.

[velvet elbow]

It needs to encourage close up play

[neon perch]

I cleared the AOE, don't put me back in. That's cheap.

[weary current]

also, i just noticed that there's a fuck-ton of encounter fixes now in the campaign

[velvet elbow]

Widdling down health from a distance is for cowards, stand and fight

[neon perch]

The game is literally teleporting me toward the damage I visibly cleared. That's just dogshit design.

I hope they fix that.

[green estuary]

the spikes give you a few seconds to clear them before they actually deal damage
if you don't move past them by that time that's kinda on you

like they visibly appear from the ground and only deal damage like 5 seconds later

[weary current]

well i don't mind it, but that's probably just me being on an adrenaline rush every single time

[green estuary]

the area is heavily telegraphed so I don't have an issue with it

[neon perch]

If only the game respected it and didn't snap me back into the AOE.

[velvet elbow]

I love it, and in my opinion this game teaches you to fight and think on your feet much more than eternal

[green estuary]

the game doesn't snap you back into the aoe (unless your particular game is behaving weirdly)
the only impulse that's generated from the spikes is if they appear underneath your feet, meaning you havent actually avoided them

it's quite possible that another attack pushed you back into the spikes, though

that would be pretty annoying tbf

[weary current]

oh wait is this about the tyrant's weird spikes that come from him stomping on the ground

[velvet elbow]

In eternal you could just kill everything instantly with crazy combos from a distance, now you are forced to be where you are most likely to take damage, and you gotta learn to react much faster to EVERYTHING

[neon perch]

This happens when your superheavies give you no breathing room. Barons in this game are on aderall and will not let go if there's even one on top of everything else.

[velvet elbow]

And I fucking LOVE it

[solid nacelle]

Apparently horde mode almost didn't have the bfg

[neon perch]

It's to the point I'm debating whether to take them off. I respect the 'I just made some bullshit!!!' aspect of HM but it really highlights just how limiting this game is when it comes to encounter design.

[green estuary]

barons are weird honestly
if you get the drop on them, they're an absolute joke and go down like nobody's business
but if they appear close to you it feels like they just stick around forever

[neon perch]

AI is either so easy to sort out they're basically standing fodder, or so overtuned they break an encounter. Barons are probably the worst offender of the latter.

[velvet elbow]

They are a high priority target, but but at the end of the day they are so easy to deal with

[green estuary]

I mean
make the parries and they can't touch you, simple as
they aren't overtuned, they just require you to execute

[neon perch]

The thing is they have to be isolated. Barons on top of anything else on an arena are just plain poopoo.

[wooden socket]

I wasn't paying attention so I didnt realize they added a ripatorium to da until just now

really cool addition I like how customizeable it is

[green estuary]

no they don't
I just fought a baron, komodo, and a leader cyberdemon on nightmare with lowest parry and killed them all with no bfc
sure it was stupid hard, but the game gives you plenty of tools to deal with the enemies

[velvet elbow]

Just stagger them so you can deal with other things in the split second you have

[green estuary]

yeah once you parry their first three attacks you're golden

[neon perch]

I think I might just have too much on my arena.

[green estuary]

probably lmao

[velvet elbow]

Maybe

[neon perch]

My shield uh, doesn't last very long.

[green estuary]

more than 3 super heavies at a time is reeaallly pushing it

[velvet elbow]

Then you either gotta learn to parry better or figure out what you should and shouldn’t be parrying

[green estuary]

because supers are just so oppressive from range it's insane

[neon perch]

I'll be tuning stuff all night long. Brb.

[neon perch]

'Just play better' isn't applicable here.

[green estuary]

especially cybers and aggadons with their fuckass skulls

[velvet elbow]

I can’t really see your map so idk what you’re really dealing with

[wooden socket]

is the newfeed broken for others too? opening it darkens the screen but no newsfeed appears and the game is now softlocked on the menu

[solid nacelle]

Makes you wonder how they're going to do master levels without it being an unmanageable mess by spamming superheavies

[velvet elbow]

I was moreso talking in a general sense

[velvet elbow]

Maybe we’ll be able to share stuff like in snapmap, give me some slaughtermaps

[green estuary]

same way eternal did it probably--by doubling down on pressure units
sure they increased the superheavy count but the increase in projectile enemies like arachnotrons/mancs/revs/dread knights are what really made most of the difficulty increase for me

although half the pressure units in TDA are hitscan so hopefully they don't go too overboard

[velvet elbow]

Arachnotrons are the bane of my existence, I can take many super heavies fine but arachnotrons just snipe you from across the map

[velvet elbow]

Oh fuck I forgot they were hitscan

[green estuary]

arachnotrons, chaingunners, cyberdemons all have hitscan ranged attacks

[velvet elbow]

Chaingunners barely feel like a problem, I want them to be plutonium levels off asshole

[green estuary]

have you played them after the patch? they're downright evil now

[velvet elbow]

I got shit download speed and have been dealing with college stuff all day, it ain’t even downloaded yet

Can you link me the patch notes?

[green estuary]

https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en-US/article/doom-the-dark-ages-update-2-release-notes

[velvet elbow]

Thx

[green estuary]

np

[bronze surge]

Guys the ripatorium is gonna have me glued to my chair for a while

I've been in the same match for an hour now

[acoustic plover]

I wish they had presets of hordes to choose from

[bronze surge]

Rs I was thinking that too

But I got my perfect set

[green estuary]

hugo put 3 barons in his arena

[acoustic plover]

Do share 🙏

[bronze surge]

Will do lemme js die rq

Dm me so I can send image

Can't send in here

[green estuary]

just send it in screenshots

[bronze surge]

Oooh I'm reeree

[obtuse oyster]

omg its updating

[bronze surge]

Ok this 30 sec cool down js bs

[obtuse oyster]

im about to doom all over the place

[velvet elbow]

Dear lord…

[bronze surge]

Oml

Alr sending I'm screenshots but this is like my preference so make any changes you'd like pol

[velvet elbow]

Aight, game of the year

[green estuary]

unfortunately fps games just don't win game of the year

but yeah personally this is my favorite game of this year by far

[velvet elbow]

Fair enough, if it doesn’t I hope Nightreign does

[bronze surge]

Yeah like baulders gate was alr ig but goty? Nah

[velvet elbow]

I don’t like Expedition 33, I just don’t like turn based combat

[bronze surge]

EW

[obtuse oyster]

I can barely contain in it's loading

[neon perch]

Okay I found a sweetspot for my HM.

[green estuary]

if eternal with all the hype in the universe didn't win goty then TDA doesn't really have a shot unfortunately

[neon perch]

It plays good.

[velvet elbow]

Well, that’s the way it is

[neon perch]

DE didn't even get best sound/action when 2016 got both. It's some bullshit.

It did win both on Steam awards, though.

[velvet elbow]

I am saddened about the SSG nerf

But at least it still goes BOOM

[neon perch]

Yeah the blocking delay after shooting the SSG is... not good.

It does not spark joy.

[velvet elbow]

No I don’t mind that

Massive damage needs a massive downside

[neon perch]

It's one of the nerfs.

[velvet elbow]

I was moreso looking at the damage

[neon perch]

It barely does any damage now ON TOP of the delay.

[velvet elbow]

I miss 1 shotting mancubi

[neon perch]

It doesn't feel good.

[green estuary]

nah it's not good at all

[deep steeple]

the nuggets

[velvet elbow]

I hope Atlan combat feels better

[green estuary]

even the chainshot with its goofy looking reload animation doesn't feel like this

[bronze surge]

I love how they give you a size comparison on the bottom left of demons to doomslayer in HM settings

Bottom right*

[green estuary]

my brain really liked that

[bronze surge]

Rs

Smoov bwain

Swayer bwain

Why aren't there any vcs in this server

I was js abt to ask if anyone wanted to hop in one

[warm ibex]

I believe they've previously said that it's just too hard to properly moderate

[bronze surge]

Ah I mean understandable

[velvet elbow]

My legs hurty :c

[bronze surge]

Why lol

[obtuse oyster]

holy shit this feels so good

[neon perch]

POC Hugo Martin on stream pog.

[bronze surge]

Me rn in HM 😫

[neon perch]

'I think we gotta nerf barons'

LOL.

Oh good they noticed melee resetting after reloading.

[supple yoke]

Hugo is def on the verge of going to sleep lmao

[silent surge]

who is in the hot seat playing?

oo audience

[supple yoke]

Def not Hugo martin

Yeah its swapped out there's a line for it

[uneven mortar]

Barons are easily the weakest super heavy, i pray they dont nerf them

[green estuary]

They have something like 25% less hp than a cyberdemon iirc
And 40% less than an Agaddon

So yeah in terms of HP they aren’t very beefy

[uneven bone]

They cooked with this update. 😍

[vagrant path]

Currently doing a quake marathon but once I'm done with them I'm getting straight back to dark ages

[deep steeple]

turning off the zack snyder slowmo feels so good

[neon perch]

The amount of pressure they put on is a little too much imo.

Like chill a bit.

[sour crater]

Nah you just get m1 comboed

[spark elm]

First purification is a success, pretty rough even though it was on Hurt Me Plenty! For some reason I defeated 10 Cyberdemons!

[uneven mortar]

I think that's a very good tradeoff for their comparatively brittle healthbar

[solar cairn]

I missed the stream with Hugo, what were the main news from there?

[solar cairn]

I looked at the beginning, on Monday, as I understand it, fixes for SSG and other things are expected, we are waiting

[unreal terrace]

i HATE that

[neon perch]

They really don't seem all that brittle. They're fine.

[slow zodiac]

lol I killed all the enemies in rippatorium, it said that purification is completed but then it said that it failed cause 1 enemy is apparently still alive even though I still had more than a minute left

must be a bug

[keen notch]

Did they make enhanced ahzrak more aggressive? I swear he usually only hits you like 3 or 4 times during phase 2 but now it seems he genuinely doesn’t stop until you either stagger him or you’re dead

[sudden stump]

damn endless ripatorium is like crack already and it's barely fleshed out lol

[keen notch]

Agreed. Wish you could set up your weapon loadout beforehand tho since that’d make respawning when you fail less frustrating

Being able to decide which weapon modification, which melee weapon, and which shield rune that you’ll start with would be incredibly nice.

[sleek hawk]

yo have yall gotten the new quakecon skin yet?

[keen notch]

I was also expecting it to be more like halo firefight and be waves of enemies and i think being able to set something up like that would be pretty swanky.

[stray pollen]

Christ man, full gauntlets with no slo mo and berserk just feels primal af

[silent surge]

he got buffed in a way

[solar cairn]

This mode is still in a test state practically, based on feedback it will be filled with content

[slow zodiac]

man, the shield throw is now so bonkers without the delay lol, you can now kill hell knights in a few seconds just spamming the shield throw

mancubi can't do anything against it as well, it makes the beginning so much easier

[spare panther]

man this update hard as hell i actually just died on a mech mission

[pine sky]

is it just me or

does doom the dark ages run insanely well now with vsr

like REALLY well

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[fluid nacelle]

Holy shit this new update is amazing

Pretty much everything i asked for and more

[ornate fulcrum]

RIP AND TEAR IN TILL IT IS DONE

[spare panther]

just beat the game in one 9 hour session.. i need more hobbies

[random quail]

Anyone getting crashes in ripatorium?

[sour crater]

I got one when I got jumped by 20 barons

[random quail]

Got it twice... Just wanted to make sure it wasn't me. Thanks!

[merry sapphire]

what happened to #game-updates

[dreamy kiln]

I think they forgot about it

[midnight marsh]

That's a good question. I will see how we can automate that, so updates can be shared there.

[merry sapphire]

you could use the slayer's club as a basis for update posts, as they announce updates for both consoles and pc

[solar cairn]

How do I insert an image into a chat?

[midnight marsh]

We can't pull things from the Slayers Club (yet). We will see what's possible.

[leaden stone]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[merry sapphire]

another reason why the old slayers club should be brought back ☝️

[solar cairn]

Has anyone already received a skin for qc?
I logged in to my slayers club account and entered the game, but there was nothing

[subtle wyvern]

They said it can take up to 48h pretty sure

[merry sapphire]

#Nope

[north spire]

Ok now that the update is out, here are my thoughts

I really like ripatorium, the hordes you can make actually make the strongest weapons feel balanced like the dreadmace

[solar cairn]

I tried to turn off the slomo completely at 150 speed, fuck, I didn't even understand what happened, I died in a second

[north spire]

I also really like the changes to the weapon switch speed and mech segments, it feels faster and more satisfying

There’s just one problem

For some reason, there’s now a big delay between firing the SSG and blocking with the shield

And it feels really clunky, I hope they change that

[solar cairn]

This is a known bug, and Hugo already knows about it. They promised to fix it on Monday

[north spire]

good :)

Also I LOVE how you can play Between Hex and Flames in the Ripatorium, it’s one of my favourite tracks from TDA and I’m so glad to hear it in something that isn’t a boss fight

If only Theomachy got the same treatment😔

Also is it just me, or does the formatting of the Jukebox playlist make me think that we’re gonna get tracks from other Doom games at some point?

It could just be me reading into it a little too deep since idk how you’d fit Andrew’s stuff from IDKFA into a modern Doom game cause of the dynamic music system

[molten inlet]

Players will now skip straight to the Holy City of Aratum if tutorials are turned off

I will cry this change is so good, the tutorial was such a massive timesink in UN runs

[neon gust]

personally I'm gonna miss it tbh, the free enemy ship was really nice

but then again I'm a Pandemonium player

[outer forum]

guys after the update is the impaler still as good as it was?

[harsh egret]

me and some ppl talked about this a little while ago, would be cool to get other artist's tracks into it for sure

[solemn mauve]

As long as you do headshots, you'll do good

[solemn mauve]

Non headshots do lesser damage now, but headshots damage has been increased so yeah

[solemn mauve]

Perfect, looking forward to the SSG fix

[odd carbon]

I’ve got skin

[uneven dragon]

this new update is firee

[outer forum]

the thing is i rely on the stalwart upgrade to do a lot of dmg

not headshots

[outer forum]

i dont really do headshots

ig that means

i have to switch weapons now

):

[neon gust]

I need to launch TDA fr

I want the new skins

and I'm still pissed I missed the Guardian skin

[outer forum]

any other good guns?

[north spire]

Try the chainshot :)

[outer forum]

i have the upg where its fully charged upon parrying

[wintry nexus]

I swear every time I play another game and hop back on tda I feel like a toddler learning how to walk

I FORGET HOW TO PLAY IMMEDIATELY

[clear tide]

I need help. I have upgraded all melee weapons, shield ruins and shield its self and the trophy for upgrading all melee weapons has popped up nor has the teophie for upgrading all shield ruins, shield and melle weapons. How do I fix this 🤦

[drowsy pulsar]

BRO THE ATLAN SECTIONS ARE SO MUCH TOUGHER NOW

I am like, screaming in happiness! YES!!!

Like, I actually died in Barrier Core a minute ago cuz I was caught off guard by there being 3 mechs in front of me. Good shit there! 😄

[calm tangle]

Fuuuuck new update broke my photo mode mod

Really sucks there's not even a crappy noclip alternative to create a makeshift freecam for cool shots, I wanna get footage for a video but the console is just busted

I gotta ask why is the console locked at all for a first person game? Can anyone think of a reason

Uh beg pardon?

[solemn mauve]

That's a bot

[vague idol]

Why was the super shotgun nerfed? Isn't the whole point of the gun being really devastating?

I don't want it to be like doom eternal's super shotgun that barely penetrates 3 targets

I'm happy for the ripatorium though

[unreal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-goku-meme-prowler-gif-4719372935125368569

[north spire]

Question: How do you actually unlock the Perfection skin?

I’ve been trying to do several Ripatorium runs but to no prevail

Am I missing something?

[solemn mauve]

I think you need to win all 3 arenas. Use the timer and choose your demons to kill, I just did that and unlocked it

[north spire]

I did that though

Do I have to do it in a specific order?

[solemn mauve]

I don't get it. I mean according to the slayers club, it has a picture describing how to unlock the skin. Perhaps try in the reverse order? Wait a sec, did you link your slayers club account to Dark Ages?

[north spire]

I don’t think so

[solemn mauve]

Ok maybe that's the reason then

[solemn mauve]

Hey I have a screenshot, I'll just dm you. Check it out.

[north spire]

Ok

[barren shell]

Guys I’d recommend in the ripatorium 1.0 to not only have super heavies and don’t adjust the sliders so it’s unplayable

I had to learn the hard way

[hard thistle]

Is anyone having SSG bug where you can't shield block immediatly after shooting

[solemn mauve]

Yup it's happening to me too, one guy said that Hugo will fix this bug by Monday so fingers crossed

[solar cairn]

He said that they will most likely try to fix it on Monday via Tunnables

[hard thistle]

Ok sweet. I figured out a temporary solution in the meantime. Immediately you fire a shot, shield throw also, then block, and then catching the shield to block, cancels this delay. if done right, it's instantenous

[solemn mauve]

Huh.... Interesting will try this, thanks tho

[hard thistle]

yeh, let me record a quick snip

[hard thistle]

#screenshots message

[solemn mauve]

Alright, in the meantime I'll try this

[hard thistle]

Did Hugo mention when they will release any master levels?

[solemn mauve]

Unfortunately not, but we can only speculate. Like end of September or October.

I hope at least by the end of this month

[hard thistle]

hope so

[unborn valley]

Yes. I thought it was intended and re-read the patch notes numerous times to make sure I wasn’t going crazy, because it ruins the super shotgun right now for me.

[hard thistle]

yeah. i'm using combat shot gun more often now due to that

[green estuary]

it should be fixed by monday thankfully

[solar cairn]

I accidentally deleted the full save, go through everything again..

[solemn mauve]

Rip

[zinc crater]

We need to get id to add wither and writhe to the ripatorium jukebox

[solemn mauve]

2016 and Eternal OST would be a nice addition too

[sleek ermine]

any news on DLC?

from yesterday?

[zealous remnant]

Hello,I am a platinum hunter and I am trying to platinum doom-2016 the only problem is that this game has some multiplayer trophies and currently I cant seem to find any players to get in a game . Can some people que with me and try to get the multiplayer trophies ? thanks.

[hearty edge]

i will when i get home

i also wanna get all the achievements

and i'm only missing the multiplayer ones as well

[zealous remnant]

Ok man add me on discord thanks

[zinc crater]

True

[harsh egret]

no

[hearty edge]

damnit

[outer forum]

i kinda wish they made the jukebox thing for all fights in the campaign

[hard thistle]

Am i the only one who doesn't get the quakecon skin on PS5 ?

[green estuary]

I haven't gotten it yet and I'm on pc so it might just take a little while

[outer forum]

you gotta wait

[hard thistle]

Wait what ? Until when ?

[outer forum]

for a day

[hard thistle]

So... Ripatorium?

Is that it?

[green estuary]

I mean the changelog is online you don't have to ask

[hard thistle]

I know, but still... just wanted to share my thoughts

Well last week I did promise that I'd return to the game this week, and lo and behold, I did

I decided to just challenge myself to see if I could beat 10 cyber demon leaders in ten minutes on Nightmare at 500% damage to slayer and 50% damage back (one leader per round)

it was fun

I did expect a master level or two tho. I was excited to see the 8GB update ( or was it 4? whatever, Idid not check beforehand, I wanted to be surprised )

[solar cairn]

Sorry(

[hard thistle]

it'sa ok lol

i returned to the game for a moment

[solar cairn]

I think the first master levels will be given in September/early October

[hard thistle]

🫡

[hearty edge]

gotta prepare for then

still new to the whole combat

[raw drum]

guys whats your opinion on the demonic leaders in tda

[solar cairn]

I wish there were new achievements and awards for passing them

[raw drum]

i didnt like them tbf, theyre just the generic demon but tankier, the concept of killing the enmeis all around it to disable its shield was cool but the fight itself was very boring, i wish you could customize the upgrade you get after ripping their hearts out because they function the same way as the argent cells

it is one flaw i have with the game, i didnt like them a lot

[solid nacelle]

I'm not a fan of having to disable the shield before you can deal any damage, cause all it inventivizes is staying away from a certain part of the arena until you've broken morale

[green estuary]

I think they're cool, and them together with enforcers add some variety to combat that wouldn't otherwise be there

[lunar spire]

big issue i have with horde mode right now

please stop auto selecting the fucking mace

actually driving me insane

[solid nacelle]

I think they're gonna fix that next week

[lunar spire]

I sure as shit hope so. I don't wanna play with the jank ass melee sticking that the mace has

I did a damn loop de loop between 4 enemies while it tried to figure out who i was hitting

[solemn mauve]

We also need wave based arena in the ripatorium too, I'm guessing it'll come in 2.0

[raw drum]

demonic leaders is a reason why the game isnt fully perfect for me, outside of that, its immaculate

[lunar spire]

fun fact, it was the cyberdemon standing right in front of me, not the imp racing past me at mach fuck

[raw drum]

noted

[lunar spire]

:) thanks mace very cool

[raw drum]

i cant wait to try out the horde mode and play without the slowmo to get the true immaculate experience

[green estuary]

that's the only way the dreadmace can be balanced
it has to be clunky as fuck to use

[manic marsh]

Hello

[raw drum]

and also does the game really get faster in reaction time too?

[lunar spire]

thats fine if its slow but making it magnetize to random enemies is not the way to balance it

i was damn near kissing the cyberdemon's toes bro

[wintry nexus]

Yup

[raw drum]

i just want my BFM

[wintry nexus]

I absolutely agree

[lunar spire]

and having to build up charges in a super fucked up arena when i explicitly don't want the mace is really annoying

[solemn mauve]

Ok whats BFM?

[lunar spire]

sure i made the arena fucked up but still, its obnoxious

[green estuary]

that's kinda how all melee weapons are unfortunately
difference is the flail/gauntlets are fairly fast so it's not a big deal

[wintry nexus]

I wanted to hit a baron with the mace, it locked onto some imp and that’s what caused me to lose one of my ultranighmare runs

[raw drum]

the big fucking mace(the nickname i gave for the dreadmace)

[lunar spire]

I found the fists and flail to work perfectly fine

[solemn mauve]

Oh lol

[wintry nexus]

Still love it tho

[raw drum]

does it still one tap hell knights

[lunar spire]

the mace just drives me actually insane

[green estuary]

they all have to lock onto a target, but since the mace has such a large windup there's a huge opportunity for something to get in the way of the mace swing

[lunar spire]

exactly this.

[lunar spire]

I don't think you understand how literal I am being when I said I was at his toes

[green estuary]

lmao
I've had it happen to me also

[raw drum]

alright with the new update, how much does this game compare in difficulty to eternal

[wintry nexus]

It can be harder than eternal if adjusted

[solemn mauve]

The Mace is alright I guess, but does any one over here actually prefer the gauntlets? It's OP actually

[wintry nexus]

Or modified

[lunar spire]

i like the flail and gauntlets

[green estuary]

no slow mo makes it much harder than it previously was without mods

[wintry nexus]

I’m still getting used to it lmao

[lunar spire]

I like it, it feels very smooth

[wintry nexus]

I’m so used to the delay

[green estuary]

I like the flail, but its inability to either stagger enemies or deal any meaningful damage just fills my heart with sadness

[raw drum]

perfect

im gonna love this game even more

[lunar spire]

yea im gonna come back when they fix the dreadmace bug

or whatever

[maiden onyx]

i actually don't like the dreadmace because of the wind up. sure just get your timing right, but it feels a lot less fluid than the other 2 to me. still appreciate its uses though

[lunar spire]

low key kinda disappointing

sounds kinda hyperbolic but with the difficulty I prefer it really puts you at such a huge disadvantage to have no melee for so long

back to the BF6 beta i guess :/

[solemn mauve]

True, Mace requires no skill, it's an insta delete bat. The Flail is the only melee weapon that needs an update, Gauntlets are perfect as it is because of the falter kick.

[lunar spire]

yes, while also being janky and buggy as shit

i love it when my slow ass melee does no damage and hits the air :)

[green estuary]

the only thing stopping it from being the most OP thing in this game is how jank it is

an enemy doesn't even have to dash out of the way of the swing--it can literally just take a step backwards and the mace just completely whiffs

[lunar spire]

and the fact that it can be interuppted too

homie this isn't fucking super smash bros

[solemn mauve]

Yeah that's the annoying part lmao

Like let me fucking bonk you

[green estuary]

like bro this mace weighs a literal ton how tf can it be interrupted

[lunar spire]

don't give demons hit priority like i'm playing some kinda damn side scrolling fighter

its D O O M

oh no this tendril came out of the ground and gave me a concussion and i forog what i am do

can no swing funny bonk stick

[green estuary]

it's really odd because the other 2 melees can't be interrupted

[lunar spire]

hurrrr

[green estuary]

or at least I don't think they can

[maiden onyx]

i've just finished the ripatorium, hot damn you don't realise how deadly the aggadon hunter's skull attack is till you've got 3 other superheavies breathing down your neck

[green estuary]

yeah him and the cyberdemons are lethal at range

[solemn mauve]

Cuz they don't require that much wind up time compared to the Mace, yes I know you can get interrupted during combos but you need to time it right

[solemn mauve]

You can say that again it's brutal man

[lunar spire]

I kinda overtuned my arena to see what I could handle. turns out 2 cyberdemons, 2 aggadon hunters, 3 hell knights, 1 battle night, 2 barons.

is pretty bad

oh yeah and the komodo

[green estuary]

without slow-mo, 3 superheavies at once along with other heavies is about the limit of what I can handle without the bfc

[lunar spire]

Like I am confident I could do the arena

if my fucking loadout would stay the same and I didn't have to start on the back foot.

[maiden onyx]

i'm waiting to see the video uploaded on youtube. ripatorium all superheavies maxed out in like 3 days

[lunar spire]

I'd love to but I just don't have that kind of time to pour into gaming anymore. its frustrating as shit

[green estuary]

kaibz mod does at least make it less of an issue
you can switch melee without going to the menu

[solemn mauve]

Zero Master did upload a ripatorium video, I guess he can handle that without breaking a sweat

[maiden onyx]

me when responsibilities and life 😔

[lunar spire]

yea but i dont feel like downloading mods

[maiden onyx]

it's just not the same as when you're at school

[lunar spire]

dude fr, i'm starting a new job soon and i have to be up to date with my state's regulations and laws regarding my practice

[green estuary]

I mean it's one file that takes 15 seconds to download and is just a drag-and-drop

[lunar spire]

like bro i don't have time for all that shit, just release something fully baked please

don't start the triple A trend

begging you, ID

[maiden onyx]

i've watched the first 20 seconds of this video and my brain is already fried. the amount of cognition and reaction speed is insane

[solemn mauve]

And all of that on 150 game speed

[lunar spire]

jeez.

[green estuary]

he's not human honestly

[lunar spire]

yeah i guess i gotta admit i'm washed because i go outside 🥀

/j

[maiden onyx]

i'm trying to figure out if i'll get better or worse at doom when my frontal lobe fully develops

i can handle 130, but 150 sends my brain spinning if too many things are going on

[green estuary]

with no slow-mo 100 is where I like it
maybe I could do 110 or 120 but it'd probably be a bit much

[solemn mauve]

If you are doing it on PC, it is doable. Forget doing that shit on console

[maiden onyx]

does the aggadon hunter shield fully tank the BFC?

[solemn mauve]

I think it does tank

[green estuary]

the shield tanks literally everything

[twin sparrow]

so with slowmo turned off the game feels incredible ^^ couple that with 120 speed and the continues rip and tearing is great

[grim cloud]

Can’t wait to try it out

[wheat sigil]

is shield swapping speed increased too with the general swap speed being increased?

[celest cedar]

How do i link my bethesta account to doom the dark ages when i try it wont let me log in i dont remember the password and it wont send me the email to change it

[lunar spire]

dude its N

[lunar spire]

yeah i got no idea bro i have no idea why its tweaking on you

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-master-oogway-i-dont-know-gif-22592197

[celest cedar]

Its legit making me livid

[green estuary]

I'm assuming you're not trying to re-send the password through the TDA client

[celest cedar]

Been trying to link it for 2 days now

[solemn mauve]

Bethesda doesnt like your email or what?

[celest cedar]

First i tried doin it through their site

Then i opened doom the dark ages then scanned the code and it still wont let me

Only reason i wanted to link the accounts in the first place is because i saw on a few youtube vids that there was a free quakon skin if u did

[lunar spire]

:(

[celest cedar]

Im losing my mind i know i have the correct email address but it wont send me the password change option

[green estuary]

dId yOu cHeCk yOuR jUnK fOldEr

[celest cedar]

I did like 8 times

[heady agate]

have you tried turning it off and on again?

[celest cedar]

The game?

[wheat sigil]

no bethesda

like the company, turn that off an on again

[celest cedar]

I dont think its possible to turn a company off and on again

[lament grove]

20% parry slowmo is perfect tbh

[celest cedar]

Ok i figured it out

I was getting my username wrong lol

[keen notch]

I figured this is just my feedback.

[lament grove]

ok perfection skin unlocked i can now close the game until the next update and dlc 🔥

[green estuary]

[gilded linden]

anyone got a good ripatorium combo for some endless mode?

[frail bloom]

Alr the demons I found the hardest to deal with in ripatorium are the leader revenants

They close the gap SO fast and constantly harass me

I'm honest when I tell you I can kill 3 vagaries and 2 cyberdemons

[maiden onyx]

Remember! They’re more scared of you than you are of them!

[frail bloom]

But put a leader revenant and it's impossible

[maiden onyx]

I recommend the baked rocket launcher

[frail bloom]

I was doing that, and it was working wonders

I almost got close but those revenants are just evil

I reccommend the leader revenants for anyone playing ripatorium

They are a challenge.

[green estuary]

revenants in general dash around too much to get consistent hits with the rocket launcher
you can usually get a quick hit off with a parry charged rocket because they're still faltered from the parry that you just did, but leader revenants are much tankier so it's wiser to use a weapon like the cycler/accelerator/ravager

[frail bloom]

Ye I agree but it's hard to do that with 3 vagaries 2 tyrants, 6 mancubi and a bunch of pinky riders and imp stalkers

Not that I'm complaining

I barely died in eternal so this is a cold welcome

[green estuary]

well in that case is it really the revenant itself that's giving you trouble?

[frail bloom]

Yes lmao

He's so slim

It's hard to hit him

I also don't think I can shield lock him

[green estuary]

yeah you can't with leaders
you really just have to wear him down with automatic weapons or take your chances with the gauntlets or the dreadmace

[frail bloom]

Ye as soon as the 3 vagaries stop blocking him

It's brutal

But it's feasible

So is there a stream today then?

Cuz it's quakecon

Or is that it

[green estuary]

there's a speedrunning stream up rn
but slayer's club goes live today same time as yesterday

[frail bloom]

I see, alr thanks

[harsh egret]

did hugo talk about anything important btw

ngl i fell asleep like 10 mins before it, meant to just close my eyes for a sec lmfao

during the break

[frail bloom]

Well he is fixing the ssg bug monday and he reassured that the team is working on other stuff. He also mentioned that he and josh think the idea of sharing community ripatorium presets is cool but nothing beyond that. Tbh I stopped watching the stream after too

I might go back to watching the stream to see if he says anything new

[harsh egret]

yh ill be rewatching it soon also prob

but ye ive been playing a bit and i got the ssg and it felt weird with the shooting and not being able to block right after

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd just avoid the ssg for now

[harsh egret]

yh i got fked over a couple times from that

[frail bloom]

I'm glad they did a custimizable mode first

Now we can share presets in abt a week when we figured it out

[harsh egret]

horde already had one yesterday

[frail bloom]

Ye but I lost it

[harsh egret]

"Oops! All Armor!"

5 Heated Shields, 10 Unheated Shields, 10 Energy Shields, 3 Chaingunners, 4 Imp Stalkers, 3 Battle Knights, 2 Battle Knight Leaders, 3 Armored Pinkies, 2 Pinky Leaders, 3 Armored Arachnotrons, 2 Mancubi, 2 Mortar Mancubi, 2 Armored Mancubi, 2 Mancubus Leaders, 2 Vagaries and 1 Vagary Champion

[frail bloom]

Hopefully he saved the text

Lmao

This looks like what I was doing but no leader revenants

Which will F you up

Anyways I can't play for 3 days so imma hang arounf

[green estuary]

those 3 chaingunners scare me a lot more now than they would have yesterday lmao

[frail bloom]

So is it me btw or is the shield recovery cooldown much longer

[harsh egret]

they are a menance

[frail bloom]

It was really annoying

[harsh egret]

yeah it felt a lil longer

[green estuary]

feels a bit less forgiving yeah

[harsh egret]

i like that change, to me it didnt feel punishing enough when that happened

[frail bloom]

Idk I feel like a sitting duck

[harsh egret]

i used to be like "oh, i my shield broke? lemme just run in a random direction for like 2 secs and ill have it back"

[green estuary]

well just don't let your shield break 🤓

[harsh egret]

or just dodge projectiles xd

[frail bloom]

See I wouldn't be complaining but the multiple hitscan enemies say otherwise

I need to have a hitscan preset

[green estuary]

thankfully hitscan enemies can deal big damage to you but not so much to your shield

[frail bloom]

Lmao what if your shield broke

You're dead

[green estuary]

well then you're cooked lmao

[harsh egret]

chaingunners when u have ur shield broken

[frail bloom]

Pair that with like 50 projectiles and you're gone

[green estuary]

makes shield management feel just a bit more impactful now

[frail bloom]

Anyways lets make a hitscan enemy preset

[green estuary]

hell naw

even 2 cyberdemons in the same arena is an absolute nightmare

[frail bloom]

All chaingunners, all arachnotrons, all tyrants

[harsh egret]

like if i let go of the shield block, chaingunners just ruin my life, not even in arenas sometimes

[frail bloom]

And some fodder

[green estuary]

cyberdemons, not tyrants

[harsh egret]

"Oops! All hitscan!"

[frail bloom]

Oops ye I forgor

[green estuary]

arachnotrons at least get hard countered by shield bash + ssg

chaingunners are basically guaranteed to get hits off on you though

[harsh egret]

they still didnt make the revenant parryable projectiles randomized

[green estuary]

honestly revenant projectiles are evil as they are

I don't mind them not randomizing them

[frail bloom]

Another idea I had was a vagary champion, komodo champion and aggadon champion with a bunch of plasma shield soldiers, imp stalkers, hell knights and some zombies

[green estuary]

vagaries are such dicks with their acid pool

[frail bloom]

Imp stalkers are kinda crucial

With their projectiles

[green estuary]

yeah the freebie shield rune activation

[warm ibex]

another idea I had was to not nerf fun things like the impaler empower from shield bounce and heavy SSG damage against certain critters

[green estuary]

I understand the ssg nerfs because it was too much of a "one-size-fits-all" weapon
doesn't mean I like it though

it kinda pisses me off that the chainshot got virtually zero nerfs on the flipside

[frail bloom]

I mean they could've lowered the ammo

For the ssg

Were the nerfs really that bad

Can you still run a whole game with just ssg like intended

Cuz it's a "build" game

[green estuary]

yeah you can
but it kinda just serves to make the chainshot even more busted

[frail bloom]

Its time will come

[green estuary]

one-shot stagger on hell knights, free armor breaks

[frail bloom]

Just brag abt how overpowered it is

And Hugo will perk his ear

[green estuary]

lol true

[solid nacelle]

Nooo it's my new bestie ever since I broke up with the impaler

[green estuary]

I like using it
the ssg nerf kinda just gave it an undeserved buff

ah kinda interesting
mancs had 26k hp before, but now they've been buffed to 32k hp
and cacos had 25k hp before, but now they've been buffed to 35k hp

[harsh egret]

yippie got the quakecon skin just now

[green estuary]

do you get it just from playing the game?

[harsh egret]

yh just logging in before 1st of sept

but it said it takes up to 72 hrs to get it or smth

i played yesterday after the update and got it now

shouldve been a serrat + atlan skin also

[hasty stone]

yeah why they no gives us more atlan skins

🙁 and no gun skins..

HUGO WHY

[mystic tide]

https://youtu.be/HfGSD0v3e8g?si=MdVeER7sj7mNmYHV

Peak dropped

[harsh egret]

i love when u die by exploding urself with a barrel it says "Killed by ???" in the extra life thing

[rocky badger]

Nothing mentioned about a new smaller parry window mode? I thought H has been talking about that on Stream for a while

[harsh egret]

yh i was also surprised it wasnt included in this update

[green estuary]

if you're on PC there's a mod for that

actually disregard that

[harsh egret]

lowkey i cba with mods

i just wanna play whats officially made by them atm lol

[green estuary]

fair

[solemn mauve]

I just attempted this... This is a fun combo, took 2 tries (nightmare, min parry and 100% game speed), whoever came with this combo I wanna say I'm a fan

[harsh egret]

yh its mr Horde mode gaming

[solemn mauve]

Hold up lemme try to ping him and thank him

[clear tide]

I need help. I have upgraded all melee weapons, shield ruins and shield its self and the trophy for upgrading all melee weapons has not popped up nor has the trophie for upgrading all shield ruins, shield and melle weapons. How do I fix this 🤦

[harsh egret]

lmao ye i doubt he minds

[rocky badger]

I also wished there was an official preset Horde. The ultra customization is cool, but I want them to tell me what to play too

[harsh egret]

well u can literally make it as u want, i think thats better lol

[clear tide]

...

[frail bloom]

In my opinion, I think having co-op in the ripatorium would be really cool

You decide the balance with your friends

[harsh egret]

could be smth for later on, but it kinda sounds like a mess, maybe a fun mess, who knows

[frail bloom]

I'd like a fun mess.

[clear tide]

Anyone help?

[merry jackal]

I got it somehow with just upgrading my melee

Ig u gotta double check once

[clear tide]

I have upgraded all my melee, shield and shield ruins and nothing popped up at all it was supposed to have be patched but Im not sure if I can be bothered to do a second playthrough lol

[merry jackal]

Which console

Like playstation or xbix

[clear tide]

Ps5

[merry jackal]

I got the achievement with only upgrading melee

Ig it might be a bug

[sleek ermine]

Where doom

[frail bloom]

Maaaaybe they did overcorrect the ssg bit

I'm watching Devo's vid rn and he's not having fun lol

[uneven flame]

[frail bloom]

Mostly the ssg changes

Plus the fact that no slo mo has a bit of slo mo still compared to the mod

[green estuary]

I lowk might just mod the ssg nerfs out
I shouldn't have to point-blank a chaingunner shield to get it to heat up

[frail bloom]

Also I haven't got there yet but do the maintains also slow down the game?

[green estuary]

they make the fights harder, so I guess they slow the game down

the respawning arachnotron in the agaddon fight in ancestral forge is a bitch

[frail bloom]

Huh maybe they overcorrected in some parts

Ye they need to work on that slider

And ssg

When is the hugo eternal stream today

[harsh egret]

i doubt they read chat ngl lol

[frail bloom]

I guess the maintains were a bit too much

[harsh egret]

i think ppl just got used to the game being easy (for some)

and now when its hard its just too hard randomly

[frail bloom]

I think it comes down to pacing

Some stuff was overcorrected like the ssg and the maintains just feel more like a chore

And the slo mo slider is kinda underbaked

[subtle crest]

so i got a bug with the rippatorium

i was aiming to get the new perfection skin

[harsh egret]

idk to me it feels perfectly fine

[subtle crest]

and when i completed the second one the game treated it as failed

[frail bloom]

The 0% isn't really 0%

[green estuary]

yeah same
honestly can't tell a difference between it and kaibz mod

[subtle crest]

and somehow i got the skin

lol

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[frail bloom]

It has like a tiny bit of slo mo

And sometimes you still get slo mo

[subtle crest]

its just funny you know?

[green estuary]

yeah I get it

[subtle crest]

I was trying to get it legimately and instead the game freaks out and gives it to me

probably didn't feel like having me lose again and repeat the process lol

btw has anybody made an ultra nightmare guide yet for dark ages?

[frail bloom]

I don't think so

[subtle crest]

damn

[frail bloom]

Not yet when the game just got a bunch of balance changes anyway

[harsh egret]

im playing with it off and it feels perfectly fine lmao

literally rn

[frail bloom]

Think of it as your fps thing

[hard thistle]

oh hey they got hexen topics now

[frail bloom]

You can't really do 60 fps right you can feel that

Some other ppl can feel that the slo mo slider when set to 0% still has slo mo even if it's tiny

[harsh egret]

what if its about how animations work with the mod compared to the one in game?

[frail bloom]

Apparently the mod works much smoother

Like completely no slo mo

I don't really know ID's process in doing these things

[harsh egret]

ye im just talking about animations behaving slightly diff giving the feeling like theres still slowmo in the official slider compared to the mod

[frail bloom]

Well what abt the animations

[harsh egret]

just wondering if that may be the case?

[frail bloom]

But why change the animations

[harsh egret]

its not changed lol

its just the behaviour with the reduced slow mo

[frail bloom]

Well it still doesn't explain how the mod has 0 slow mo

If people feel something is not quite right then something isn't right

[harsh egret]

and all im saying is this may be all placebo just cause the animations are behaving differently with the mod, while actual speed wise the game is the same as the mod.

just not sure if u get what im tryina say

[frail bloom]

What's "placebo"

[sleek ermine]

It’s kinda hard for me to explain

[harsh egret]

its like when u get told something is different than before and ur brain thinks it is different just because u were told, while in reality nothing changed

idk i suck at explaining stuff

[frail bloom]

Well idk abt that since it's mostly really skilled players who feel the difference and if it doesn't feel good why stick with it

Same with the maintains

[harsh egret]

what im saying is it might not be an issue with the slider itself, it just "feels" slower cuz the animations arent sped up to normal speed the same as the mod or smth

fk it, we're just going on a loop lmao

[frail bloom]

I know I know but I think the biggest issue is trying to get thingd across

ID is probably having a hard time understanding what ppl really want

At first the ssg was too powerful but now it's too weak

The game was too easy but now with the maintains it's more a slog

I don't really think it's a problem to address these things cuz ID can fix them they just need more info

We live in an age where people can't really clarify anything so they just throw insults and buzzwords

Really hard for the devs who just want to pinpoint what the problem is

So uh when is the stream

[harsh egret]

they've got data enough on many things to just wait and see themselves

other technical issues is smth else

[frail bloom]

Rn the game just needs bug fixes and to back off on the maintains and nerfs(just for ssg)

Maintains aren't bad it's just how much do you want before it gets boring

In the replayability aspect it's increased a lot tho

But it introduced rougher edges again

[harsh egret]

idk ill have to see for myself ig

[frail bloom]

It's not the end of the world tho they just need more data

I feel like they did the same for eternal I remember something abt quickswitching thst they changed that the community didn't like

Actually let's ask the man right now!

@compact hemlock
What would you like ID to revert or change from the new update? I haven't played acts 2 and 3 so may you delve a bit deeper on why the maintains kinda slow down the game, what could they do in this aspect moving forward? For slo mo, what is the difference between no slo mo on the kaibz mod and in the official implementation. For the ssg, did they really need to nerf it, if so how much? I felt the hell knight change was good but maybe the rest was a bit too overtuned. For the ripatorium, it's in 1.0 so I'd wait for it to get it's full update cycle and they are working on master levels so we'll see if they make a remixed version for each level. Also near the end of the vid you cut off from the youtube livestream I really wanted to hear what in your opinion the main overarching problem was. Sorry for pinging again but I'm curious

Alright yapping session over

[solar cairn]

Why roll back something?

They need to fix the delay at the shield and ssg and that’s it

[frail bloom]

Well it goes a bit deeper then that

It's for overall pacing

[solar cairn]

Personally, apart from a ton of content, I don’t want any improvements

Well, also fan service in the form of achievements and awards for passing different stages

[frail bloom]

Well technically the rebalancing were the improvements and some fell short

[hard thistle]

Resurrection is literally unplayable due to red wall blocking progress to Kreed glitch, since this new update. Did Hugo say anything about when this will be fixed??

[frail bloom]

Best thing to do is keep asking them abt it and hope they respond

And to ask if any other ppl got the glitch

That way you can amass more ppl which means a higher chance someone important can hear

[solar cairn]

Well, as I realised, these were the last large-scale edits

[frail bloom]

And a lot of ppl think they went too far

[hard thistle]

Can more people in here confirm if thoy got the glitch. I've already seen one other person

[frail bloom]

I've only seen you so far but if I see someone else, I'll ping you

[hard thistle]

Yea,i saw this person too got it - #screenshots message

[frail bloom]

Oh sweet

[solar cairn]

I think if Horde or someone else catches this bug, they will definitely try to highlight it Hugo, plus I think their testers can also come across it

[harsh egret]

ik mayo has pretty direct contact with them, not sure about horde

sure they watch the content and all but i dont think horde makes vids about "current issues" or smth

[frail bloom]

Well I don't wanna ping mayo I'm his #1 pinger

Someone else can do it

[hard thistle]

Yes i noticed this too. i think they left some slow mo so that you would still feel the parry impact. but what's the point of calling it 0% slow mo then. There's definitely still some slowmo even at 0%

[harsh egret]

@slim shuttle sorry for the ping, do say if u dont want to be pinged
is there any chance we could let u know of some bugs and feedback for the update that you could either contact hugo/id about directly or include in ur update 2 review vid?

[sudden stump]

Red or blue? They added the blue shield that you need to fire your plasma gun at before you can progress to Kreed.

[frail bloom]

Yet another thing to ask them to refine

If you chose 0% you want 0%

[harsh egret]

also pls tell me im crazy... i havent seen an arachnotron do the floor mines yet and im at the end of siege 1

[hard thistle]

Hey I've heard Under The Mayo's name before

[frail bloom]

No they're there

[harsh egret]

alr good

[frail bloom]

Get wrecked

[harsh egret]

wtf then xd

[hard thistle]

Oh he's here

[frail bloom]

That was quick

[hard thistle]

Hello Mayo
Just came back from Silent Hill 2 just to get back to DOOM

[slim shuttle]

Pings are fine with me. But I can't promise any bugs given to me will be fixed soon. Not everything I've reported has been addressed.

[frail bloom]

Alr guys dump the load

/j

[harsh egret]

well yall have found more stuff than me, so go ahead

[hard thistle]

But I'm glad 2 be back to Doom... and gone again because I dunno what else to do with Ripatorium

[sudden stump]

Replaying the campaign is a blast with the new changes. Least for me.

[hard thistle]

I might play again

[frail bloom]

Noooo I can't

It's hard for me to articulate