the-dark-ages

[queen tiger]

Youre spelling "cheep" wrong, unless youre doing it intentionally

[thorny rose]

I got all the collectibles

[queen tiger]

Is there challenges? Might be those

[thorny rose]

I completed all of them

[hard thistle]

Hi. Past me.

[thorny rose]

Sup present me

[neon gust]

Could you take a screenshot of the mission completion details you get by pressing the X key on the chapters list?

[hard thistle]

What's your favourite gun?

[hard thistle]

Me, I like the new Combat shotgun. Tube fed and semi-auto. Retractable stock sucks.

[queen tiger]

The SuShotgun is my favorite, the one from eternal

(The super shotgun)

[hard thistle]

Hell yeah. BREAK ACTION BABY!!!!!

[neon gust]

personally I'm a complete sucker for the Doom II SSG

[thorny rose]

Sent

[neon gust]

It feels very powerful

[queen tiger]

The best doom combo (according to me) is the fire meathook on SuShotgun with chainsaw and the thing that makes burning enemies drop more ammo, super easy to refill ammo

[queen tiger]

Also are you like the real doom slayer?

[hard thistle]

The Doom The Dark Ages Combat Shotgun only has one downside. The stock feels like it will break at a moment's notice. Also Yes.

[queen tiger]

Ok

Not like ai generated?

[hard thistle]

I think you're based.

[queen tiger]

Like an actual person

[queen tiger]

Wdym based

[hard thistle]

As in a Good person.

[queen tiger]

Oh ok

[hard thistle]

What of it?

[restive lintel]

based does not mean good person

[queen tiger]

Nah just wondering what you meant

[hard thistle]

Based has more than one meaning.

[restive lintel]

it means you made an unpopular opinion that he agrees with 😄

[queen tiger]

Ok

[thorny rose]

I'm so closed to completing siege 1

I just need 1 more secret, but idk what it is

[queen tiger]

Have you tried just killing as many demons as possible? If theres like a rank

[thorny rose]

I don't think that's how it works

[queen tiger]

Or if there is a map system maybe reveal the map?

I mean i only play eternal so i cant really help

[merry sapphire]

do the mods/admins have any plans to continue posting on #game-updates

[neon gust]

don't worry Mario I'm already helping the man

[merry sapphire]

Holy shit Mario

[queen tiger]

What

[queen tiger]

Wdym

[queen tiger]

What did i do

[queen tiger]

WHAT

[hollow sandal]

Maleo

[iron sleet]

Is there any info on if Doom the dark ages will get any DLC's?

[hollow sandal]

DLC are confirmed. Release time frame is not

[iron sleet]

👌

[merry sapphire]

i love your games man Chill

[merry sapphire]

Dude,,, Put some respect on his name,,,

[mint bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-eyebrow-gif-24850701

[hollow sandal]

Bro lookin like "fuck u thought this was?"

[keen vortex]

did they say when is the big patch gonna drop?

[cold patio]

will path tracing be optional ?

or mandatory like RT ?

[split gate]

Fellas I need tips, how does one beat the updated Vagary Champion consistently, any strats? i could only think of just going in a circle and taking out the Mancubi while doing so

[thorny rose]

I think I might know why I can't get 100% on siege part 1?

Does the life sigil near a waterfall count as a secret area?

[hollow sandal]

What weapon are you using? I find using the Impaler the best option

[thorny rose]

Or the one under a statue?

[split gate]

The shredder for the most part

[hollow sandal]

That's what I use, and use the shield the stun the mancs while handling the vagary

[split gate]

How would you go about moving around the arena good sir

[hollow sandal]

Stay away from the mancs and avoid that horrid slime

It sounds like you know what to do tho

[queen tiger]

I am chill, i was just asking

[queen tiger]

Yeah,

[queen tiger]

What

[split gate]

Yeah I’m just a bit peeved cause I already passed the level a while ago on my Pandemonium run and I had to do it again due to a glitch of the next level disappearing

[hollow sandal]

Say it out loud and it will make sense

[hollow sandal]

I pray I don't get anything like that 😭

[queen tiger]

No it doesnt

[split gate]

Yeah it’s been happening since the recent update, others have experienced it, hope you don’t bro

It’s only in Pandemonium I believe

[honest vortex]

Tbh I don't even think Eternal's as much like that as the glazers believe.

Hugo Martin gets by with SSG+Ballista spam in his streams.

I even tried a playthrough with a predominant SSG+Ballista spam one time and it wasn't that hard.

[hollow sandal]

Did you say it out loud?

[queen tiger]

Yes

[hollow sandal]

Lol

[queen tiger]

Now leave me alone im playing gs 1

[hollow sandal]

Ok

[honest vortex]

Yeah Dark Ages is super soulful.

[graceful lion]

NOOO why dont u have to use all the weapons, player choice doesnt matter noooo

god forbid players can have unique playstyles amirite

[earnest swift]

Imo player choice in "TDA" doesn’t matter in that regard since the guns functionally are all identical.

Armour and health drops not withstanding, though damage is high enough on Nightmare for that to not matter too much.

[tough sky]

Did they say what time the path tracing update will go live?

[next thistle]

Does any other average skill players (like myself) get Ape'd by the Cosmic Baron ? Sometimes I can parry his close attacks, other times he obliterates me 😂😂

[graceful lion]

we just know its going live today

[wild rose]

I passed through hard times with him, but it seems I finally learned him recently

[fossil badger]

Wheres the patch?

[graceful lion]

today, we dont know when

[copper hound]

hey guys has the path traying update been relesed yet?

[copper hound]

ty

[full barn]

no, the premium edition just gives you a paper with the letters ''DLC'' written on it

[full barn]

wait is that shit gonna be on ps5

[coral vine]

I like ‘em cause they hard to miss, and have a terrible aim.

[empty sable]

Yes, just not Xbox because it's too weak apparently.

[full barn]

isnt the series x stronger than the ps5 hardware wise

i meant the normal ps5 not the pro slop

[empty sable]

Unsure. I'm fully pc except PS5 for exclusives so I can play it without waiting 2 years or so lol

[fossil badger]

don't think so

[full barn]

game looks great either way ray tracing is slop

[fossil badger]

👍🏻

[full barn]

doom 2016 is like 10 years old now almost and it still looks phenomenal thanks to great art direction

[empty sable]

Maybe I'm wrong then about it coming to PS5? Definitely read it somewhere. Lies everywhere lol

[fossil badger]

Its not

path tracing is nvidia rtx 40 or 50 only

[hollow sandal]

I have a 3080

[fossil badger]

AMD latest series cannot compete with nvidia yet on path tracing

[empty sable]

Looks like the PT is only for PC then. My mistake.

[graceful lion]

i think it might be the raytracing thats better

[fossil badger]

it'll work, but not having frame generation is hindering

[graceful lion]

tda's raytracing seems to be done incredibly well, to where it looked only a little worse compared to path tracing from what digital foundry showed

[empty sable]

What time is the release for the PT?

[fossil badger]

path tracing is very different when in motion tho, things seems more grounded

[graceful lion]

also no, raytracing isnt just "slop", i think its great honestly, quick to make, optimizations are even faster, and it was introduced all the way back in 1968, i feel like the technology is ready at this point

[fossil badger]

i think a 1 hour and 30 minutes from now

[graceful lion]

baking lights takes a while to make, and yes, even for high end hardware, even id software's hardware

[empty sable]

Nice. My 4090 is ready.

[graceful lion]

my 2060 is not ready

[lavish kindle]

my 9070 is maybe ready with frame gen but I don't care enough to try and I'll replay the game with PT in 5 years when I have a better GPU

[hollow sandal]

Fuck yea bro I know that shit runs beautifully

[graceful lion]

well, the 90 series' raytracing is said to be alot better

[idle sleet]

Started Dark Ages on Nightmare. It’s a whole different ball game. Level 4 already but it’s much spicier and the shield game is way different.

[hollow sandal]

Yea and less ammo

It's fun

[empty sable]

Hoping it still runs smooth though. Depends on how it's implemented, sometimes things are implemented like shit and no matter the high tech it's laggy.

[wheat sigil]

when i get back home i've promised myself to continue tda.. so hopefully i will

[lavish kindle]

the DF video said it's about a 40% hit to performance. That'd put me around 55FPS which is okay but I'd rather keep the 90 I have rn

[hollow sandal]

Nice I'm on my second playthrough and having a blast

[hollow sandal]

What framerate and resolution are you running? And frame Gen, upscaling? Low or max?

[fossil badger]

thats why frame generation is necessary

[idle sleet]

I have a 5090 and turned on path tracing in Cyberpunk and the frame rate took a huge dump. Dropped to like 30 FPS. Hoping it performs better in TDA.

[lavish kindle]

bad news: the 90fps I'm getting is with frame gen on lol

[empty sable]

Max with Quality/Frame Gen and I get around 180 fps lol

[idle sleet]

It really is. I don’t know why but I did my first playthrough on a lower difficulty and it was too easy. I only noticed when I got to the mid point and realize there was not much challenge. I don’t think I died once in the whole campaign. A few life digits here and there.

I decided not to change the difficulty for some reason.

Now I’m realizing I picked up a whole load of bad habits because I could be lazy — and now those habits are killing me. lol.

[hollow sandal]

Fuuuuck

[hollow sandal]

Do you get framedrops on encounters with demons?

[hollow sandal]

Facts, well. Said

[empty sable]

Nah, maybe 20 fps or something if there are a lot of demons. It's rare.

[hollow sandal]

I have a 3080 and the framedrops are annoying

Could be worse tho

Dlss on performance, I might as well drop the resolution to 1080p

[empty sable]

My monitor is OLED 4K 240 so it looks amazing.

[fossil badger]

that later hell level is the most demanding level in the game

so its the best to test

[idle sleet]

Yuck. Spoken like a peasant. 4K master race only.

😂

Jokes aside, I am very impressed with all of the new frame gen tech. I barely notice the difference

[hollow sandal]

[empty sable]

When it's implemented well and Dark Ages has done well so far. We'll see how this PT goes.

[idle sleet]

Honestly, I can barely tell the difference between 1080 and 4K in a lot of instances when the 1080 monitor is decent.

4K is overrated IMO

[hollow sandal]

Word

[north spire]

my version of dark ages on steam has a tendency to cause A LOT of screen flickering during certain levels and its extremely distracting, so i played the rest of the game on my PS5

fortunately, all 3 modern doom games work great on a controller so it wasnt that bad

[idle sleet]

Yeah the gameplay is amazing. But the engineering dev team really knocked it out of the park. I’m honestly shocked at the loading times in this game.

Do we know how they got them so fast?

[split gate]

Sheer wizardry

[empty sable]

Probably forced RT made it happen lol The fact that it speeds up the development process, one might consider that it also loads faster because of it. Just my guess.

[lavish kindle]

https://youtu.be/DZfhbMc9w0Q?t=2480
The idTech Engine Director talks about it here (timestamp)

[idle sleet]

Amazing. Thanks.

[lavish kindle]

(the gist is that they designed a way to divide levels into sectors and then stream the sectors in as you're approaching/playing them instead of loading everything at the level screen)

[idle sleet]

Smart. My guess was that were preloading, something somewhere. I just couldn’t figure it out

[hasty stone]

Wonder if PT will come with a patch

Or just PT...

[tough sky]

Huh?

It will be an update for the game. Doubt we will see anything else in the patch notes

[graceful lion]

i mean, the ps5 still has the achievement issue so

[graceful lion]

well, its also in part due to raytracing, since its entirely done by gpu and not your storage drive, which is why you dont see bits of light loading in

but ye thats also pretty smart

[harsh egret]

800 mb patch

[tired rock]

Weirdly enough, I happen to restart the whole consoke cuz of some problem, forgot to fuckin save my TDA file (R.I.P UN savefile) but then when I started booting the game again, the trophy just pops out of nowhere lmao

[hard thistle]

update is out, can't download it for some reason

probably gonna reinstall it

[harsh egret]

from about 120 to about 50 fps with everything on in path tracing settings

[hard thistle]

damn

[fossil badger]

goddamn

which graphics card and which resolution?

[harsh egret]

5070ti, 1080p

[grave flume]

hey whats happening in this new patch? just saw an 800 mb update

[harsh egret]

seems like just path tracing

[unborn valley]

Path tracing

[lavish kindle]

sexy lights

[fossil badger]

damnn

with dlss?

[placid saffron]

😭 who tf buys a 5070 just to game on 1080p

[astral charm]

800mb, these are not the ultra textures i'm looking for

[harsh egret]

i had dlaa enabled, i changed to dlss quality and its on about 85-90

[placid saffron]

series 50 already is a scam but damn

[grave flume]

a true gamer

[harsh egret]

cuz i dont have money for a 1440p yet

[placid saffron]

BUT YOU DID FOR A SERIES 50???

[harsh egret]

in autumn im getting an oled and stuff

[hasty stone]

Any patch notes

[harsh egret]

yes a good oled is like the same price as the gpu dude

but ye i need dlss on quality to be able to play the game with PT

[harsh egret]

its more of a scam the lower down u go on the cards list

im very happy with my 5070ti purchase

[fossil badger]

damnit

thats okay, but did you verify if you are not cpu limited?

[harsh egret]

but the game looks so fuckin good lol

[placid saffron]

series 50 though 😭 that one is a full on scam again

[harsh egret]

no it is not.

[placid saffron]

it's vicc3, the graphical look should matter rather little to your gpu

[fossil badger]

whats your CPU?

[hard thistle]

probably just gonna have to deal with the crap frames with path tracing

[harsh egret]

12600kf, upgrading likely in autumn as well, just needed a gpu and psu upgrade for now

[hard thistle]

I never play games with low settings

[fossil badger]

ahhh yeah, probably limited

[harsh egret]

somewhat yh

[fossil badger]

i'm gonna test on my ryzen 5700x

[hard thistle]

testing the update on 7800x3d and 4090

[indigo sandal]

Good ass card. Great pick.

[harsh egret]

Was originally gonna go with the 5070 but i said fk it

[fossil badger]

i picked that one

[harsh egret]

My wallet didnt like me for a couple weeks

[hard thistle]

50 series users should be able to switch their frame gen to 4x

[fossil badger]

but thats okay too, i'm on 1080p

[hard thistle]

get the highest frames with path tracing

[fossil badger]

don't like 4x, i think i see some artifacting, but 3x is great

[hard thistle]

I see

[harsh egret]

ill test mfg soon after dinner

ik framegen feels pretty good compared to other games in latency but i still dont like that extra latency

[fossil badger]

thank god i don't feel it

[hard thistle]

are there official patch notes for the update?

[harsh egret]

Not that i saw

[fossil badger]

im not seeing anything on the steam

[harsh egret]

But i dont think they need to, the only thing new seems like is just the path tracing stuff

A part of me was hoping for some content update as well but oh well xd

[hard thistle]

note, make sure dlss and frame gen files are up to date with dlss swapper!

[fossil badger]

Nvidia App does that better already

[hard thistle]

usuallly after games update, the versions can downgrade to older versions

[fossil badger]

and overwrites in that cases tooo

[hard thistle]

I see

[cold hatch]

the path tracing looks so good

[harsh egret]

I just love the people who say "only difference is fps" meanwhile i turned PT on and i see differences everywhere

[frosty coyote]

Plen

[cold hatch]

the lighting and reflections are so much better

[graceful lion]

ah, interesting, they mustve improved alot since DF's video

[harsh egret]

Lmao its the exact same

Its just when u play it urself theres a difference

[cold hatch]

the reflections are clearer for a start

[harsh egret]

Compared to the video u mean?

[cold hatch]

compared to the standard RT in general, even just google pics about it

[harsh egret]

Ah well yes ofc

Thought u meant it looks clearer than in the DF vid

[cold hatch]

no i mean in game when you're playing it

[graceful lion]

ah fuck my vram is above the minimum with a 6 gig 2060 now

[harsh egret]

Yh its pretty asf

[graceful lion]

it is a fluke we qare so fucking back

[raw onyx]

hi, are we allowed to talk about the skins on ebay here for TDA ?

[harsh egret]

cyberpunk has 50 million neon lights everywhere so its always gonna be more drastic

[graceful lion]

oh damn that looks great, too bad im using 720p/1080p upscaling so water looks blocky

[fossil badger]

yep

[frosty coyote]

1080p is underrated

[fossil badger]

on RTX 5070 , 1080p dlss quality locked 60 fps with Path Tracing

on the most demanding area, Siege Part 1

[harsh egret]

thats pretty good if u ask me

[mild loom]

damn new PT update is nice

[fossil badger]

yeah, frame gen on 3x makes this awesome

[graceful lion]

does the raytracing look better or am i just imagining it

[mild loom]

it mightjust be imagining, despite them being super close pt is visibly better

[graceful lion]

i mean im not suited to see the difference so

[mild loom]

maybe

[cold hatch]

what's better ray reconstruction or the real time denoiser

[fossil badger]

10gb+ of VRAM being used on 1080p dlss quality lol

[fossil badger]

nvidia one

[graceful lion]

alright so what are the settings that only add a tiny bit of vram or are mostly cpu dependent

[frosty coyote]

Holy yap

[mild loom]

personally i like the softer ambeint lighting

i think it makesthe game look more realistic

[mild loom]

glorious DLSS

[frosty coyote]

Not confusing át all

[graceful lion]

i was actually able to drive up a ton of stuff with the game still being 70+ fps

[mild loom]

oh yeah?

[graceful lion]

and it looks quite better, most of the shit is on UN

[cold hatch]

i can still see a difference in DF's video. dunno what you guys are talking about

[graceful lion]

well its a small difference iirc

[mild loom]

its true but no gpu atleast till the 70 series is gonna be able to run a fast paced game like Doom TDA at high fps with true path tracing

[graceful lion]

also with everything on UN except geo quality and shadow quality being on low, im getting a good bit of fps

game looks better

[frosty coyote]

You acting like I know any of the words 🙏😭

Okay thankiey

[fossil badger]

its not small at all

[honest vortex]

I'm starting to think TDA has my favorite music and it's not even close 😭:
https://youtu.be/6gTiLk-p4Zg?si=-TNKGVTgx0TL2_LA

[honest vortex]

6:00 until the end is the heaviest most brutal nastiest stuff in modern DOOM like WTF

[patent robin]

update today?

[honest vortex]

Not even Skullhacker, Flesh & Metal, Harbinger, or Rust Dust and Guts reaches this level of heavy concentrated anger

[frosty coyote]

Its very good

[half spindle]

Guys does anybody has a tissue? I need to wipe a tear that is running down my leg ASAP.

[honest vortex]

"But the music sucks without Mick Gordon"

WAAAH!

[harsh egret]

fk man i cant use framegen, the latency for me is just so bad

its better than any game ive tested it on, but playing mainly competitive games it still feels like ass

[frosty coyote]

Cry more fr

[honest vortex]

I don't quite like this song as much as Infernal Chasm, but it's definitely heavier and angrier lmao

[honest vortex]

?

[half spindle]

Into the void is great as well.

[harsh egret]

into the void and what lies below r some of my fav

[honest vortex]

Yeah.

So is Ancestral Beath, and Wither and Writhe.

[half spindle]

Blood red.

[frosty coyote]

The Gordon glazers. They should cry more about how bad this music is. No TF its not

[honest vortex]

What Lies Below is also great

[half spindle]

WTSFL.

[honest vortex]

Oh I thought you were talking about me. Lmfao

[harsh egret]

i might get harassed for this but i dont like blood red THAT much

[half spindle]

Unchained beast.

[harsh egret]

pursuit of demons.

[half spindle]

From the ashes.

[honest vortex]

6:00 until the end sounds like if Flesh and Metal and Skullhacker mixed together and had coke together lol

Speaking of Into the Void, kinda reminds me of Rip and Tear in some areas.

[frosty coyote]

Nah not u

[harsh egret]

from the ashes imo is this games' TOTTFIY

[honest vortex]

I'd say Infernal Chasm tbh

But it's up there

[harsh egret]

yh just my opinion, but so many tracks are just absolute bangers

[honest vortex]

Colossus Unleashed is this game's Gladiator, and low-key I like it more than Gladiator

[half spindle]

I’d say unholy siege.

But I love all ost.

[honest vortex]

I would also say I like Wither and Writhe as well Ancestral Beast Komodo demon in-game version more than Gladiator

[half spindle]

Atlan Battleground imo is good.

[honest vortex]

Ye

[harsh egret]

atlan battleground has too much downtime for my liking

but the heavy parts are really good

[honest vortex]

Yeah TDA probably has my favorite OST in the series at this point.

It gets even angrier and heavier than 2016 at times. (Like the last 2 minutes of Unholy Siege game rip for example.)

.... and the percussion, drumming, bassline, and Bobby Prince influences are super dope.

I also prefer the more pure metal.

||Mick Gordon uses way too much dubstep and techno sounds for my tastes at times. Ngl||

[frosty coyote]

Nah I love it

[fleet spruce]

A lot of tracks there , Unholy Siege is very much a definitive soundtrack of the game as it catches the entire vibe of the game imo. My personal favourite is Into the Void tho.

[honest vortex]

I tried relistening to Rip and Tear KOMA Game Rip V3 and Infernal Chasm back to back.

While I love Rip and Tear's game rip quite a lot.

I love Infernal Chasm FAAAR more for some reason.

[empty sable]

I prefer bluegrass. Listening to the banjo while ripping and tearing 😉

[honest vortex]

Also oddly enough Infernal Chasm's mixing sounds a lot more full and complete to me

[empty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-dream-himym-barney-stinson-gif-24322817

[honest vortex]

It depends. Some songs I like it, some I don't like the elements on.

I think it sounds atrocious in the Doom Hunter boss battle theme for example

[harsh egret]

the way i look at it is how "iconic" it is imo, and the track more or less feels like the slayer's track in a sense lol

[copper hound]

Is there any recommended requirements to be able to run path traceing?

[empty sable]

Extremely High lol

[copper hound]

What a guess lmao. Just wondered if I could run it on my 4060💔😭

[empty sable]

I guess it depends what resolution and the rest of the graphics settings are.

[copper hound]

Doesn't seem like it cuse of vram

[harsh egret]

for me max with path tracing uses a bit over 10gb of vram

[stoic forge]

I’m like halfway through and none of the music seems memorable like Cyberdemon, Doom Hunter, or even World Spear

[empty sable]

Probably. You can give it a go. Just make sure you are using at least Quality/Frame Gen. If you want the extra lighting I might even go with a lower graphic settings. You just have to play around with it, not sure if any spec requirements are talked about.

[harsh egret]

guess it depends from person to person, i listen to the tracks on spotify every day and they're always bangers

i find myself humming them sometimes while not listening lol

[proud cloud]

Relatable

[copper hound]

Looked at it and it goes slightly over. I'm gonna tweak with it later too see if I can run it cuse it doesn't go over vram by much

[empty sable]

Since I'm going 4K Ultra Nightmare I have to use at least Balance/Frame Gen. It's smooth for the most part, but when a lot of projectiles and demons show up there can be a slight lag. The lighting is definitely an improvement but it does cut a lot of fps down. RT lighting is the most demanding bs ever. Still debating on if it's even worth it lol

[real rampart]

the game looks better with it for sure, but I dont feel it makes the far lower fps worth it

I think the only game where I actually took the fps loss for the pathtracing was cyberpunk

cyberpunk with path tracing is another league on its own, by far the game that had the best use for it

[empty sable]

If it was stable it probably would be with it when I turn it up to Balance I'm getting about 90-100fps which I strongly believe is excellent. That slight lag when a lot of stuff is on screen is annoying to say the least. DOOM is action packed so there's going to be a lot on screen lol This is a 4090 on 4K Ultra Nightmare with RT Ray Reconstruction

[real rampart]

yeah its pretty intensive

cyberpunk the path tracing is at least very stable

[harsh egret]

pt more or less decreased my frames by 50%

[real rampart]

with DLSS on Quality there

[empty sable]

It doesn't always show up though so it's a gamble. Never know when that lag spike will hit. They may tweak it in the future for optimization improvements. Who knows.

[real rampart]

if this was like any other genre and gameplay style I would play with PT, but its doom

playing smoothly is better than looking good for me

[empty sable]

Exactly and honestly the more fps the better when it comes to parrying.

[real rampart]

(or if I had either a 4090 or 5090)

[honest vortex]

What's funny is, we're all comparing these songs to TOTTFIY, yet I like Infernal Chasm and many of these MORE than TOTTFIY

😂

[empty sable]

Their parrying is very responsive overall if you're just using normal sliders, not setting it to custom insane max. Still need enough fps to react though.

[real rampart]

yeah

[harsh egret]

tbh tho x2 framegen and dlss quality with PT feels pretty good for me

[empty sable]

You on 4K?

[harsh egret]

no no no, 1080p

[real rampart]

oh I bet, I just refuse to play with hardware-acceleration from windows, so i can't use framegen

[empty sable]

That's why lol

[mild loom]

same

[harsh egret]

i get like 110 on average id say with that

[empty sable]

What gpu?

[harsh egret]

5070ti but im a bit limited by the cpu, its a 12600kf that im gonna upgrade a lil later this year

[empty sable]

I'm 4090/7800x3d and running it all on max. So definitely pushing the game to its limits 🙂

[hasty stone]

The frame Gen input lag isn't too bad I'm this game either

Indiana Jones it's terrible

🐱

[harsh egret]

yh im also running everything on max

[fleet spruce]

That's fair, i enjoy all the modern Doom soundtracks alike cause all of them are amazing. Still don't understand how people see Finishing Move's work as inferior lmao.

[hasty stone]

Cuz their idiots

The soundtrack is fine, mickd style wouldn't fit dark ages

Mick*

[silent surge]

visit one of my comment sections for some fun

there ARE people who like it though!

[neon gust]

The soundtrack for this game IS awesome but I disagree about Mick's style not fitting Dark Ages

I think Mick is good enough that he could've nailed it for Dark Ages too

[hasty stone]

Mick will never work with Bethesda again anyways, it's over so ppl can stop talking about Mick lol

[neon gust]

Still though, I love what Finishing Move cooked up

[hasty stone]

Mick won't be working on Bethesda stuff ever again so it's long gone

[jagged halo]

Is the dark ages discord decoration gone or is it still up

[strong grotto]

Path tracing isn't worth it in doom tda

Oops

[hasty stone]

PT is for high end cards only lol my 5060 to prolly can't handle it

[frail bloom]

It's not the style, it's the specific instruments. Synthy dubstep would not work in tda, mick could adapt, but the music would change drastically

[hasty stone]

5060 ti

[strong grotto]

The visual difference isn't worth the performance hit

PT is worth it in cyberpunk
But not in doom tda

[hasty stone]

-50fps isn't worth it for any graphics

Doom is too fast

[neon gust]

I had to live with it until I disabled triple buffered screen tear

[silent surge]

the tempo/speed and feel of the music too
mick is more low n slow overall, but FM has some too

tracks like 264bpm, mick’s demo, didn’t work with new doom
though we do have the driving metal of the komodo champion song

[neon gust]

Well, had to live with it during Siege part 1. Aside from that, the game runs at a good 50 to 60 FPS

[rocky badger]

I don't see patch notes. What is in the Steam update?

[neon gust]

path tracing, most likely

[strong grotto]

Yes

[honest vortex]

What do you think of the OST? I know you love Infernal Chasm.

[strong grotto]

It's path tracing

[frail bloom]

Ye since the game is slower the music has a chance to be faster. I am not without criticisms of FM and some of the decisions they've made but it's not to the point where I throw is aside, I listen to them daily, but there is rokm for improving

[rocky badger]

No nerfs/making the game harder?

[silent surge]

i haven’t listened to it front to back and hit everything though i’ve expanded out to find some stuff i really like

[frail bloom]

Is Midnight on the doom server

[honest vortex]

Yeah I cefinitely can see Mick adapting.

He made Urdak's ambience, Damnation, and the Hell choirs after all.

Also Eternal's music style was extremely different to 2016's even.

[neon gust]

iirc yes

[fleet spruce]

I played whole game 30-40-ish fps at upscaling to 720p lmao

[frail bloom]

Yu know his name?

[strong grotto]

Bruh were u playing on a steamdeck lmao

[frosty coyote]

Rip man.

[fleet spruce]

A bit faster device , ROG Ally X

[frail bloom]

I'm conflicted, should I ask Alex Klingle if he thinks classic doom is after tda lol

(Alex klinge is one of four composers for tda)

[honest vortex]

What other songs do you really like besides Infernal Chasm, based on what you've heard?

[strong grotto]

Sad fsr4 doesn't work on vulkan

[harsh egret]

why would he think that lol

[silent surge]

let’s see what i can hit without forgetting
from the ashes, into the void, what lies below, blood spill, when the shadows, unchained predator, are among my favorites off the top of my head.

[strong grotto]

Theomachy

Half time part is the best

[honest vortex]

Agreed.

Ancestral Beast (especially the Komodo demon in-game battle version), Wither and Writhe, Apotheosis, and Colossus Unleashed are also fantastic IMO

[tranquil badge]

between hex and flame slaps

[silent surge]

it’s on there yep! and komodo and all

[tranquil badge]

is that the riff around 55 seconds in? that part is probably one of my top five riffs for dark ages

[frail bloom]

So I was listening to the interview vid of Allstin and FM, iirc Brian talked abt not including as much references bc they "haven't happened yet" and went the more subtle route. Unless they were talking abt 2016 and eternal, they didn't specify so I assume they are talking abt classic doom too. @silent surge do you think we can like remind, or open the idea to FM that classic doom is before tda, and that they're free to do more references if they want?

[honest vortex]

There's a song on Spiral of Nerathul that sounds JUST like the DOOM 2016 main menu theme and it's SOOOO good.

[neon gust]

Okay okay

I should have NEVER enabled path tracing

[strong grotto]

I think so
Yeah

[hollow sandal]

Yea. I've seen him in here before

[neon gust]

I have a 3070 TI, the game went from a whopping 70 FPS to a staggering 5

[honest vortex]

Dunno if it's part of the Ancestral Beast game rip or a different song entirely

[frail bloom]

What's his name

[hollow sandal]

Midnight

[tranquil badge]

absolute musical cinema

[silent surge]

i think maybe they just wanted to, as they mentioned as well, do their own thing. though having classic callbacks is a part of modern doom

[harsh egret]

i think they said they didnt put in more references because they werent too sure how much they should be doing that or not, thats what i remember at least

[strong grotto]

Real
My fav part of the soundtrack

[hollow sandal]

They should make your name yellow

[strong grotto]

Maybe vram?
It has 8gb of vram iirc?

[harsh egret]

lol why

[frail bloom]

Ye but Brian gave the implication that they thought classic doom was after tda and that's part of the reason why they didn't include as much

[honest vortex]

True.

This game has the best boss music in the series IMO

[frail bloom]

I just want to let them know that they aren't confined by some lore or tonal reason that isn't true

[hollow sandal]

You provide accurate information and everyone seems to come to you for it

[silent surge]

i thought it was after

[frail bloom]

Classic doom after tda? I don't see that

[silent surge]

but then again if it’s many many years before. but still after

tda being after i mean

[frail bloom]

Chronologically , no

[strong grotto]

Samir you're breaking the car Samir

[frail bloom]

Shhhh

[silent surge]

like if tda is in 1000 BC (it’s not but)

[frail bloom]

Alr
@hard thistle

Tda is after classic doom right?

[silent surge]

i wonder how far back TDA does take place chronologically. there’s still more to happen before d2016

[honest vortex]

I want a new DOOM game with the Slayer before the divinity machine.

Just like 1993, DOOM II, and 64.

Idk why I just do.

[frail bloom]

What does midnights profile look like

[hollow sandal]

Fuck I forgot, hold on

[frail bloom]

I wanna ping him for smt

[neon gust]

one could consider Legacy of Rust to be that

[harsh egret]

i havent seen bro here before ngl but maybe i just missed him

[honest vortex]

TDA is after Classic DOOM, but before 2016 and Eternal.

[neon gust]

oh wait maybe not, Legacy of Rust isn't fully in hell

[honest vortex]

No, like new engine and everything

[frail bloom]

Yes ofc

[hollow sandal]

@frail bloom midnightthespartan

[frail bloom]

Allstin, tda can't possibly be before classic doom considering the things he went through as doomguy, it's chronological, and on a different planet

[calm knoll]

i have a question from that one Xbox leak a few years ago would the new doom game be called Doom year zero

[frail bloom]

Thank you

[harsh egret]

it literally isnt before classic doom lol

[honest vortex]

Allstin made an edit earlier, he said he thought TDA is after Classic DOOM

[hollow sandal]

You agree? Yellow?

[hard thistle]

Yes

[frail bloom]

See now I can tell alex

Should I, chat

[harsh egret]

lmfao i wouldnt say no to it if it happened but i also dont think i deserve anything for this lol
more so curious about how people get the sentinel role

[calm knoll]

i guess no

[frail bloom]

@wicked abyss
I watched the vid with you, mayo and act man. Just one little thing, there is multiple instances of a voice throughout a level telling the demons stuff, it's the witch in the cosmic realm. I don't think it's as cool as the other voices but it is there, not removed

[hollow sandal]

Server boost. You have to pay

[honest vortex]

It's funny and ironic as, Dark Ages music style felt more influenced by Classic DOOM than Mick was, but had less references.

[hard thistle]

TDA is after the classics but the sound guys might be under the impression that while it's after those from the Slayer's perspective, it's before them from a timeline perspective.

[frail bloom]

Which is why more references would be godly

[harsh egret]

ah damn lol im already boosing my own server to have emotes and sound effects xd

[hollow sandal]

Damn, rip

[harsh egret]

but yeah duh, they all have the server boosting things next to their name lol

[hollow sandal]

Yea xd

[silent surge]

i still haven’t played that

[frail bloom]

I don't get where they're coming from still, all the songs in doom are kinda a reflection of doomguys journey, not the timeline

[neon gust]

Me neither, didn't touch any Classic Doom expansion beyond Final Doom

Didn't even play the Master Levels, should I play the Master Levels at some point

[frail bloom]

please play it, the music slaps

[silent surge]

i’m all like “yeah, scythe is a great doom wad!”

and it came out in 2003

[frail bloom]

It's also a beatiful looking wad

Hmmmm should I

Or is it disrespectful

[silent surge]

to ask em?

[frail bloom]

Just to make sure they know they aren't confined by some timeline, whether they include things or do things differently is up to them, I just wanna make sure that there wasn't anything holding them back

Am I right person anyway

[hollow sandal]

Idk

[harsh egret]

brother stop

[fleet spruce]

Maybe

[polar drum]

Any hints on what the phalanx skin promo might be?

[harsh egret]

yeah i wrote that after trying it today

[mental grotto]

id like to have a firm talk to the id employee who decided to add the secret in the kar'thul marshes where you embed your shield into the switch, spawning demons that disappear if you take your shield out of it

"yea bro make this guy fight revenants at far range with no parry"

[harsh egret]

bro just wants attention atp

[mental grotto]

turn off path tracing broski

[lavish kindle]

I'm upset that was the only fight like that. One of the only fights in the whole game that actually did something interesting with the mechanics and wasn't just empowered shield spam and fodder clearing

[mental grotto]

It sounds interesting on paper but fuck man, i just get 1 shot by the revenant's double-cannon shot almost every time, Don't even know if there's a way to dodge it besides using another demon as a meat shield

tbf im playing with demon damage and projectile speed cranked up, but shit

also bro i promise that you will know when the dlc comes out without asking here 7x a day. There will be teasers and reveals and people will be talking about it

[willow beacon]

That double cannon shot is wild on 150% max proj speed, you gotta parry pretty much as it shoots

[harsh egret]

the guy is just trolling

[mental grotto]

"mooooom are we there yet???"

[honest vortex]

I feel so weird liking Infernal Chasm more than 2016 and Eternal's best songs

Due to people saying "Dark Ages music is passable at best, not a single special or memorable song"

[harsh egret]

how old r u

yh exactly

exactly

[honest vortex]

Like even when they drop the comparisons to Mick Gordon, they just say literally all of Dark Ages music is boring and generic lol

[harsh egret]

explains alot tho

[mental grotto]

Don't listen to the vocal minority about this, if you like the music you like it. Lots of mick gordon glazers have written off this soundtrack without even giving it a chance

I'm really enjoying the new soundtrack, especially now that the mixing is (somewhat) fixed in-game

[honest vortex]

I mean people who don't even glaze Mick Gordon just say Dark Ages music is straight up uninteresting and literally nothing is memorable.

I see it all over YouTube comments and shit lol

[honest vortex]

They also say it "all sounds the same and everything blends in"

[willow beacon]

I think it’s a good soundtrack, but it’s not a great soundtrack

It’s got some tracks I really like

[honest vortex]

I relistened to Rip and Tear game rip version and Infernal Chasm back to back today, and liked Infernal Chasm faaaar more for some reason

[mental grotto]

I think this is just false tbh, also a lot of people shitting on this game haven't even played. It's really weird

[honest vortex]

Rip and Tear game rip is far and away in Mick Gordon's top 10, maybe even top 5 songs.

Yet I still like Infernal Chasm waaay more

[mental grotto]

Art is subjective, if it speaks to you and you like it, you like it. Who cares what other losers on the internet have to say

[honest vortex]

False that it all sounds the same?

If so I agree

[mental grotto]

Yeah thats what i meant. I don't think the soundtrack is same-y at all

[honest vortex]

Yeah it's very varied.

I think people are saying it because it's more pure metal or something

[ancient iron]

Wheres the option to disable tutorials?

[honest vortex]

Probably because YouTubers like Moistcritikal, The Act Man, and Admongold gave them that opinion I guess.

Unfortunately

[mental grotto]

Yeah this is very true. Seems that people forming their own opinion about things nowadays is extremely rare, people just parrot whatever x big content creator says

[neon gust]

one could literally say the same about Doom 2016's soundtrack even though it has the best soundtrack out of any Doom game imho, it's not memorable until people actually want to memorize it

[ancient iron]

Ok but wheres the option to disable tutorials? Didn't found it anywhere

[neon gust]

Aside from the hot garbage launch the game's fine

[mental grotto]

Oh yeah the launch was miserable. But the same could be said about eternal

[neon gust]

idk I wasn't there

[mental grotto]

I think this game was bound to be "controversial" from the moment it was revealed due to how much they changed up the gameplay loop

[fleet spruce]

Eh, bigger problem is system requirements imo

[ancient iron]

So true, had to buy Lossless to be able to play at a decent rate

[mental grotto]

also a fair point. I understand why ray tracing was built into the engine, but i do think its a shame how many users are alienated

[honest vortex]

Even Eternal could be seen as samey tbh. With the exclusion of Urdak.

[neon gust]

that, and the setting / story perhaps? but truth be told I can't bring myself to dislike this game, it is my second favorite in the franchise even though it's so remote from what other Doom games did

[mental grotto]

I'm loving it dont get me wrong. It's still early for me to say whether i like it better than eternal, for now they're on a similar level to me

[honest vortex]

Anyway for me 2016 has consistently the best music, but Dark Ages peaks might be higher.

Infernal Chasm is GOATed for example.

[neon gust]

I think like it more than Eternal, but that's because I'm not that big on Eternal in the first place

[fleet spruce]

Same, I'm running game thru 2 (built-in FSR Balanced preset into game and RSR/LS) upscalers and frame generation to bridge the gap

[neon gust]

The fast-paced gameplay is nice but only to an extent

[honest vortex]

Same. I like TDA's music and TDA in general way way more than Eternal's.

[graceful lion]

i mean, it would still need atleast 6 year old hardware to run well, doesnt path tracing consume like 500mb more of vram or something?

[honest vortex]

Is 2016 your favorite game of the trilogy in general?

Even beyond the music?

[graceful lion]

and also remember that, the game requires atleast 6 year old hardware, is that much of an ask?

[neon gust]

Yeah I'd say so! To me it's THE Doom game

[ancient iron]

DLSS and LSFG here

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages your second favorite Dewm?

[neon gust]

So far I'd also say that too!

[frail bloom]

Well no I picked 8 I really like, but out of 35? There is a lot of overlap and filler tracks. Writher and writhe, apotheosis, what lies below, idc abt them. I have listened to them, they are boring. Tda has really high highs when it comes to the ost, only if you pick and choose your favorites, but much like 2016, where I do not care for flesh and metal, vega core, the boss tracks, harbringer, skull hacker. Yes I did say all of that. That is why I consider them equal, sure it comes to preference but when it comes to dynamics, it is kinda lacking. especially the ambient tracks, I only like infernal chasms and cosmic realms ambient tracks, the rest are noise. Of course, this can be improved on, I really hope it does.

[fleet spruce]

Yeah, one makes it closer to 720p in my case and other reduces blurriness making a surprisingly sharp image despite running game on subpar hardware. Truly witchcraft

[frail bloom]

Boss tracks were hurt immensly too, not many melodies or unique noises that correspond to their bosses

Except from the ashes, which I quite like, love actually

Part of my initial dissapointment, @delicate grotto I think felt this too, the tracks that you @honest vortex consider tip top, infernal chasm, well I thought that was gonna be one of the weaker tracks! Turned out to be top 5 tracks within the game, all that hyping I did, "oh don't worry, they're hiding the real game changers!" Was all a bunch of really stupidly high expectations from me thinking that ALL 35 tracks would be different from one another but I was wrong

I really love the fact that I have 8 to enjoy a lot, but I was expecting more dynamics and a lot less filler

Ambient tracks are important too

Because let's be honest, nothing is perfect

[fleet spruce]

personally I prefer them over 2016 and eternal boss themes

[frail bloom]

Ehh over gladiator, doom hunted, marauder using TOTTIFY, I just can't agree

Those tracks at least are very different from one another

[fleet spruce]

gladiator track never really hit me , but others i can see

[fierce sail]

what's new in TDA update?

[frail bloom]

Fair but you can tell it's playing when it does, it uses a lot of weird instrumentation

Kar en tuk and all of that, with the conglings

What does Kreed have?? Like nothing

[ancient iron]

Path Tracing

[fierce sail]

holy sh!t, seriously? I need to check it!

[frail bloom]

It's a real shame too, cuz the melody that plays for 20 seconds in divine retribution is really good. But it's too short, and is muddled by the guitar

[fleet spruce]

I agree that it was a weird choice to go with metal there but I absolutely love how they sound

[frail bloom]

It's just boring after hearing different break downs of seemingly similar riffs for 20 levels prior

I expected more out of a mayker boss

[ancient iron]

TDA have 0 recognizable themes for me except Unchained Predator

[vital rapids]

How are we enduring path tracing, slayers? ?

[mental grotto]

Tried it, fps went down to 20 on the menu screen, immediately turned it off and moved on lol

[vital rapids]

Tactical withdrawal ftw

[frail bloom]

There is more for me, abt 8. I really like into the void, it has a melody. I like infernal chasm, it also sorta has a melody, unholy siege is very militaristic and atlan battlegrounds is very 2016 coded. I've been talking smack but that doesn't mean the ost is throwaway, I think almost no tracks from 2016 are memorable besides maybe hell walker, bfg division, rust dust and guts, and damnation

I can talk smack abt Mick too lol

He did really good with eternal tho

[mental grotto]

I’m sure the tech is really cool and I appreciate id trying to push the envelope when it comes to graphics, but for me, the seemingly marginal lighting improvements for a 40-60fps reduction just isn’t worth it for regular gameplay

[vital rapids]

I think there's room for more music for sure. If I absolutely have to choose between dubstep overtones like that previous game and cinematic 300 theme like Doom VI, I'll go with the second one. But I'd love go hear more of FM's variations on the theme

[vital rapids]

Did you play through the intro with it on? That's what I'll probably do first

[ancient iron]

They could went a more secure path with Levy, Andrew and maybe Geoff if Mick wasn't available

[vital rapids]

Because the intro is pretty af already and has lots of places for lighting to pop

[frail bloom]

Don't get me wrong, I still think the ost is great, but they are new, and do not have as much experience with the community as mick or david or hulshult. But that is why WITH DLC, I think they will improve

I trust that they know what they're doing and that I don't go to the music tab right now and spell out everything I disliked abt the entire ost

This is why criticism is important, so things are better

[mental grotto]

I probably will at some point, but after seeing how bad my performance got just on the main menu I didn’t even try loading in. Maybe after my modified nightmare run I’ll mess with dlss and see if I can get it to a playable state to check it out

Speaking of which, why do we still only have 3 save slots in the big year of 2025

[honest vortex]

Is 3rd, D64?

[honest vortex]

Me with Eternal where I think Meathook and DOOM Hunter boss battle is really obnoxious lmao

[frail bloom]

I mean I can't tell you what to like or not like but they are recognizable

You know what they are instantly

[honest vortex]

Reclaimed Earth is probably the only Eternal song that isn't boring or obnoxious to me at this point.

Ngl

Eternal's music also just sounds really.... empty, thin, and light compared to the other two games?

[full barn]

dlc just came out!!!

[full barn]

meathook sux

[frail bloom]

Huh

Reclaimed Earth huh

[full barn]

listen to blood swamps its peak

[honest vortex]

Meathook is the most boring Mick Gordon song ever made.

It's basically a boneless, thin, empty, and extremely repetitive version of TOTTFIY

[full barn]

i hate the choir or whatever its called

[honest vortex]

It also sounds like it's trying to come across as heavier than it actually is, but comes across as "my child's first Djent heavy metal song"

[full barn]

doesnt fit

[frail bloom]

Huh

[ancient iron]

Disagree, thank you for reminding me the name of this banger

[frail bloom]

Interesting

[honest vortex]

I mean that's my reaction to you calling Flesh and Metal lame lol

[ancient iron]

I really forgot the name of most Doom songs, and my playlist have been dry since 1987

[frail bloom]

Fair lol, I guess we all have crazy opinions

[neon gust]

It goes to Doom 1993 actually, what a tight ass game

[honest vortex]

I showed my family members Meathook and they thought it was kinda weak and try hard too....but really liked Flesh and Metal

Interestingly enough

[ancient iron]

Mine would kick me off home if I even explained what Doom is

[hollow sandal]

Lol if I was a still a kid my mom would too lolol

[honest vortex]

Same

[idle sleet]

Turned on path tracing with a 5090. No additional frame gen. Down to 40 FPS on max settings.

But boy does it look pretty

[frail bloom]

I just wouldn't use it

[honest vortex]

Doom Hunted isn't a boss theme. It's the pinky arena theme

[frail bloom]

I forgor, whatever plays during the doom hunter boss fight

[harsh egret]

what res

[honest vortex]

Interesting. I find that song extremely obnoxious.

The most overblown shitty dubstep ever

[idle sleet]

4K

[harsh egret]

yh makes sense then

[frail bloom]

If you think that sure, but it fits with the boss lol

It just makes sense

[honest vortex]

Tbf I also think Doom Hunters look hideous, same for the level he's on, and his voice is extremely cringe and goofy, so ye.

[frail bloom]

Compared to Kreed, it's just metal riffs, not even a melody!! Insane

[honest vortex]

Honestly his level and design and voice reminds me of something from Halo 5: Guardians.

I get Warden Eternal vibes

[frail bloom]

At the end of the day, they could've done more, and I believe they will do better

[ancient iron]

I really wanna replace my 3060 with smth else for SLI 2.0 but idk with what

[frail bloom]

Infernal chasm hooooo boy

[vital rapids]

skill issue 😉

[hollow sandal]

Does kreed Makyr have a theme?i feel like I hear a riff when he first shows on screen and I hear it at other places in the game such as auratum

[frail bloom]

Yes there is a motif but it isn't expanded on nor prevalant as much as it should be

[honest vortex]

I have heard it a lot.

It has some pretty good sections

[full barn]

people dont talk about it alot because it wasnt made by mick

[honest vortex]

Definitely prefer Reclaimed Earth though

[honest vortex]

Tru. I think the DLCs had better music than the base game.

Reclaimed Earth is the best one IMO

[frail bloom]

Lol my cousin does not like this game very much

He has admitted that he sucks at it, but because he sucks at it, he's not having fun

He says it's "mad repetitive" and "out of brand"

Bro thinks he's intelligent😭 🙏

[hollow sandal]

Out of Brand?

[harsh egret]

i cant tell if he is blaming himself or the game for that xD

[frail bloom]

It's kinda both

He's very vague

I wish I coukd help him but he has school work

[neon gust]

The family makes Doom fans, looks like he's the one who's out of brand

[frail bloom]

He's almost done though

[honest vortex]

Dark Ages?

[frail bloom]

It's weird bc I played classic doom with him since we were both 5

[frail bloom]

Yes

[harsh egret]

curious as to why he would think he game is at fault

[frail bloom]

Idk I've asked for specifics but he barely responds

[harsh egret]

lmao ye allg

[frail bloom]

He will give it a second playthrough tho

Imma show him the insane stuff I can do

[harsh egret]

thats good

[fathom remnant]

So idk if anyone else does this but since yesterday i started doing a 180 spin and hold whenever I pickup anything in this game whether it be gold rubies skins ECT. And that's because they put classic doom tactic of the enemies spawning behind which I'm here for. But doing the 180 spin sometimes makes me look funny and ridiculous when there isn't a spawned enemy 😎

[graceful lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjl9CCjVp0

[honest vortex]

Wait how far did he get

[graceful lion]

literally modernized classic doom

[frail bloom]

Ye I'll show him this

[vital rapids]

Maybe show him a few different "combat sentences" that will take down whatever is killing him. I think the game just leaves you to start doing this

[frail bloom]

Like level 3 or 4

[frail bloom]

Yes as soon as I can get in touch, haven't seen him in like a month

And he lives 30 miles away

This matters to me cuz he was excited and y'know discussion

[harsh egret]

also they tweeted about the update, calling it "june 2025" update
does this mean there will be a more consistent update schedule, hopefully content update wise as well 🥹

i could also be reading too much into it

[frail bloom]

PLEASE A MASTER LEVEL

[graceful lion]

it would be a missed opportunity to make a new engine contain many times more ai at once but not have master levels

[harsh egret]

gonna hold that one korean guy accountable for saying master level coming next month

[vital rapids]

I want recreations of classic wads tbh
Or at least areas from them

[graceful lion]

"you can kill more demons at once now!"
"we wont give you anything ingame for killing more demons

[frail bloom]

Did he say that last month lol

[harsh egret]

nah this month

[foggy breach]

VILLAGE OF KHALIM MASTER LEVEL PLEASEEEE.. 🙏

[harsh egret]

but in case its not true i mean

[frail bloom]

So he isn't wrong just yet

It's like 80/20

20% it's happening

[hollow sandal]

Faaacts. Seige, and harbor of souls too tho

[frail bloom]

I thought that was in this game during march, but that was sadly a rumor lol

[harsh egret]

i want the update with whatever mayo mentioned as something that will improve replayability and also master levels or horde mode

a proper ng+ maybe too

[foggy breach]

Did Unchained Predator only play in the turret section in Village of Khalim?

[frail bloom]

Ye he's being real quiet the little bugger

[frail bloom]

The recognizable riff? yes

[foggy breach]

We gotta hear that riff more in a update or something.

[graceful lion]

both cosmic levels

[frail bloom]

Ye they still need to work on intergrating the heavy parts of music, good thing we can hear them lol

Compared to launch

oof

[foggy breach]

At least the music is louder than Eternal's ingame.

[graceful lion]

i had no fucking music whatsoever in the first vagary fight

[frail bloom]

Ye they fixed that now tho, so that's good

[frail bloom]

Ye, there is that

[honest vortex]

VEGA Central Processing never gets old.

Best mission out of the first two games and always will be

[placid rock]

#screenshots hidden assets and campaign stuff in snapmap including crucible and sentinel stuff

[trim stirrup]

mars rover? 😂

[frail bloom]

I haven't played eternal in a couple months, gonna do a playthrough, then doom 3

[placid rock]

yep plus the spaceship

i making a handle for the crucible blade i put in there lol just cause i can

[frail bloom]

Honestly the last level is the best level for me lol

All the demons, hell theme, infernal chasm

Duo boss

I am confident in saying that I like it more than final sin or argent d'nur

Final sin was bleh, really liked argent d'nur tho

[placid rock]

i loved the azhrak battle where it showed doomguy struggling

[frail bloom]

Ye loved that

[wild rose]

Guys wanna see me doing the BFC section without BFC?

[frank turtle]

it's in my top 3 for sure

[frail bloom]

I almost was able to do that, was fun lol. Ye go ahead

WAY harder than eternals sections made for bfg

[wild rose]

It's not hard if you don't face them all

[frail bloom]

I faced like 10 caco projectiles lol

[placid rock]

i bet i could face them all

[frail bloom]

It's scary

[wild rose]

Like the only issue there are the Cacos, if you take them ranged the rest is very doable

Damn the video isn't loading on YT

[harsh egret]

cant u just spam cycler on them

[frail bloom]

Idk I never tried

[harsh egret]

i wanna try now but i cba to go through 80% of the level rn for that

[wild rose]

That's what I do

[harsh egret]

ye thought that might work

[wild rose]

The update was only for PC damn

[frail bloom]

I wonder why

[harsh egret]

imagine pt on consoles lol

[wild rose]

They're this bad?

Goddamn the video was uploaded by PS5 but it doesn't show on my app

Finally @frail bloom
https://youtu.be/o4_EbBng6E8?si=8rLQodiUkAOZLkgs

Shredder is also great for this @harsh egret . I also saw a dude use grenade launcher

[frail bloom]

Bruh you cheesed it

[harsh egret]

yh i can see gl working as well

[frail bloom]

I went in there!! I fought, I battled

[harsh egret]

yh, ur on fraudwatch

[frail bloom]

I also ran back in the hall after I saw all those revenants lol

[delicate grotto]

100%
The first couple of levels have some of the weaker tracks for sure, and don’t do a good job at setting up the game’s, imo, top notch soundtrack.

[frail bloom]

The boss tracks too

[delicate grotto]

It’s not until Siege Part 1 when the soundtrack starts to make a strong presence.

[frail bloom]

Ye true

I do really like blood red and atlan battlegrounds tho

Same with unchained predator

[wild rose]

There's no way of facing 5 Cacos at once bro

[frail bloom]

You gotta spam parry

Like really edge it lol

[wild rose]

It doesn't work because of the shock attacks

[frail bloom]

It does tho, I wasn't successful but I killed like 5 from parrying alone, I had those daggers

[wild rose]

Maybe it helps. I thought lightning would be the best rune

Why face those untrustworthy meatbrains when I can use strategy against them, right?

[frail bloom]

But it isn't as fun man

[wild rose]

I still faced an army of Revenants lol. I found it fun

Cacos in other hand aren't

[frail bloom]

Hugo for dlc🙏

Lol kidding

Save that for master levels

[wild rose]

I'd like an army of Barons in the Master Level please

[loud gulch]

anyone having their game not show up after launching? i just updated my drivers and the game and now the game wont show up, if i run it on steam it only runs the idtechlauncher (doesnt even show up), if i launch it through the steamapp files i just get the tda exe with no display

[wild rose]

I'm on PS

[wild rose]

But it's completely doable. It'd be really nice if they put this quantity of non fodder enemies somewhere

[loud gulch]

?

[wild rose]

Can't help

[loud gulch]

k?

i wasnt specifically asking you tho

[wild rose]

They always say "uh this game has more enemies simultaneously than Eternal" doesn't matter if 80% of them are fodder. In Eternal you'd find yourself fighting 5 Mancunbus, 3 spiders, a tyrant and some revenants more constantly

[wild rose]

Oh I should have ignored you pardon me

[loud gulch]

ok

[frail bloom]

For a casual? Not really, I would like more heavies and superheavies but this is ridiculous for a reason

Runaway tactics are not fun lmao

[wild rose]

Not when maxed out

[wild rose]

I only did those with the Cacos. Everything else I faced and didn't run

5 Cacos is much indeed

[frail bloom]

Again, the arena would have to accomodate for that, and of course what you have

They would need a big arena with lots of cover lol

[astral charm]

cleaning up weapon masteries... bruhh does anyone actually use pincushion

[vital rapids]

Heavily

[frail bloom]

Not me lol

Yet

[vital rapids]

One of the best things in the game 👌🏻

[astral charm]

i'm being trolled

[vital rapids]

Count your shots and always set it off exactly. Remember that if you saw shield and pincushion, retracting the shield pops the pincushion. DPS on pincushion blasts is good

[honest vortex]

Something I noticed is the people who don't hate Dark Ages because it ain't Eternal 2, seem to generally have Dark Ages as straight up their favorite DOOM game

[wild rose]

A LOT

[astral charm]

or i can do stake gun headshots instead

[remote thunder]

higher dps than impaler salvage headshots lol

[brave leaf]

So I stopped playing dark ages for a while to finish astro bot and some other games but imma resume the game now

[wild rose]

Nah

[vital rapids]

You have to be doing pincushion every clip on the button to get the most out of it

[frail bloom]

Do you want well crafted combat encounters or stupidly hard and dumb stuff

[wild rose]

I mean it has the greatest power fantasy

[frail bloom]

They already confirmed that it won't be as hard as tag

[vital rapids]

It takes down superheavies very nicely

[frail bloom]

But will have the best combat encounters in tda

[harsh rain]

you guys got any tips for un?

[wild rose]

Again, I don't think 5 Mancubus and 10 big imps isn't absurdly hard

[astral charm]

don't die

[wheat sigil]

why not well crafted and really hard🙂

[harsh rain]

bro m1 get a life aside from doom like fr

[vital rapids]

Don't die. Don't get angry at annoying deaths

[frail bloom]

Those go hand in hand, but stupid hard would be 5 cacos in a hallway

[wild rose]

I was thinking mostly about MLs

[honest vortex]

Like the Eternal fanboys are the main DOOM fans that hate on Dark Ages.

2016 and Classic DOOM fanboys generally seem to think Dark Ages is PEAK

[wild rose]

I'm not talking about the Cacos Samir

[frail bloom]

I never said that was bad, I can see that

But it depends on the arena too

[wild rose]

I told you already, everything that makes the BFC arena hard are the cacos. The absurd number of other demons isn't a problem with shield runes

[vital rapids]

TDA is Doom VI for real
I'm being nice and not saying V hides

[frail bloom]

Ye but it's also how they're lined up, it's just really hard to block, rather have the same amount, but scattered throughout an arena

[wild rose]

Because those are the most Doom games. Eternal is its own thing. I had a dude complain about Doom core mechanics when complaining about TDA in comparison to Eternal

[brave leaf]

Do you guys main the flail or power gauntlet

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/theninja77123-gif-21433690

[wild rose]

Gauntlet

[fervent timber]

will doom tda launch on radeon gpu? i heard that it requires rtx card

[vital rapids]

personally, flail but most would main gauntlet

[graceful lion]

radeon gpus from the 60 series and up can do raytracing

[vital rapids]

gauntlet is nice quick damage. Flail, upgrade it and you have armor stripping and blasts

[fervent timber]

thx

[graceful lion]

raytracing isnt rtx, thats just a trademarked name, its called rt, raytracing

[harsh egret]

i love the flail imo, just like the animations and stuff its fun to use

[graceful lion]

they just wont run as well because nvidia has better raytracing

[fervent timber]

i thought that all cards can run ray tracing

[wild rose]

@honest vortex the dude would complain about not every weapon having an obligational situation and how you could play the entire game with very few guns

Like... Classic Doom

[vital rapids]

flail is the most awesome lol. i can't lie

[graceful lion]

well, they need raytracing cores to run it well

[wheat sigil]

hey, not cool

[brave leaf]

Tbh I kind of just equipped flail when I got it and haven't switched since

[wild rose]

Nah gauntlet goes harder

[harsh egret]

medieval vibes (i hear hugo saying that in my head every time i think of this)

and PURE andrenaline

[frail bloom]

WHEN IS HUGO BACK

[wheat sigil]

like all dooms

[frail bloom]

AUUUGHGHGHFH WE NEED HIM

[harsh egret]

i think not next week but the one after iirc

[frail bloom]

Damn it

[real crater]

mace

[vital rapids]

what even is this "life aside from Doom"

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjago-what-you-talking-about-gif-20813600

[harsh egret]

i miss ugo

[brave leaf]

I haven't actually unlocked the mace yet

[frail bloom]

Ninjago is goated

[harsh egret]

i love the way Midnight says "Ugo" instead of Hugo

[frail bloom]

Speaking of, he hasn't responded!!!

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-chivalry2-chivalry-nice-armour-gif-26199608

[harsh egret]

surprise surprise

[real crater]

dont be turned away by the fact it has 1 charge like i was it's worth it anyway and recharge doesnt take that long

[frail bloom]

I was drawing a prowler but I got sidetracked

Gotta go

[vital rapids]

tis like the hammer of Thor tbh

but smashing things to death with the flail, splintering away their armour...

[honest vortex]

Tbh I think Classical DOOM is kinda situational too.

Automatic guns to stun lock crowds and homing projectile demons.

Plasma Gun to do the same, but waaaaay stronger and faster, but a more limited resource.

Rockets for stronger crowd control in some ways but the threat of self damage

Regular Shotgun for sniping. Etc etc

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-christian-bale-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-oh-yeah-gif-5693998

I saw someone saying all the guns in TDA are "functionally identical"
stable genius take tbh

[wild rose]

Indeed but you can clear it just with shotgun and rockets, and maybe an automatic one

Some are better but it doesn't force you. Like chainsaw is great for pinkies. Just like Chainshot is great for Vagary but you can use other thing

[honest vortex]

Yeah, on the base game levels.

Though very hard on DOOM II's harder missions when they start adding Revenants, Archviles, Pain Elementals etc

[wheat sigil]

like all dooms

[honest vortex]

In Eternal you can even predominantly spam SSG+Ballista if you wanted to

Or PB+Rocket+SSG

[wild rose]

This is funny. Some say Eternal isn't like that and it's a TDA's flaw. Others say you can use anything on Eternal and don't like TDA for other reasons

[wheat sigil]

objectively, you aren't forced to use anything specific in eternal's base game

[vital rapids]

You generally use the guns to their strengths with your choice of tactics in mind.

[honest vortex]

Intriguing that Eternal fanboys will complain about something being game breaking for Dark Ages for a same thing that Eternal would do.
Happens with many aspects

[frosty coyote]

Nah

[wild rose]

I don't really think you can SSG + Ballista everything because well, ammo

[frosty coyote]

Thats my least fave

[harsh egret]

what "nah"

[wheat sigil]

you mostly can

[frosty coyote]

They didn't spice up the design I dont like it

[vital rapids]

you don't think the flail has medieval vibes?

[wild rose]

Against fodder?

[harsh egret]

???

[frosty coyote]

I just dont like it. I dont disagree with vibes tho. Its a medieval weapon.

[wheat sigil]

not a ton of times you needa shoot fodder

[harsh egret]

i love seeing new ppl or just ppl that never write here that just write the most random stuff ever

[vital rapids]

it being the flail?
I think it's the choice for utility more than DPS, so it will go right off some people's radar straight away

[harsh egret]

"its a medieval weapon that doesnt give u medieval vibes" biggest oxymoron ive heard

[vital rapids]

I like the animations and feel of using it, too, although truthfully all of the melee weapons are pretty impactful and fun to use

[wild rose]

The only utility I need is killing enemies before they kill me

[hollow sandal]

Are the names "shiny" now because we have enough server boosters for that?

[brave leaf]

On the "from beyond" mission now

[wheat sigil]

it's rng

[harsh egret]

lmao ye we just talked about that and now randomly those changed

[brave leaf]

I'm ngl I completely forgot how the dragon works already

[vital rapids]

they're path traced

[vital rapids]

flies around and vomits fire down the throats of your enemies

[hollow sandal]

Makes sense xd

[brave leaf]

Yay another morale encounter

[frail bloom]

Alr finished my second playthrough, gonna try eternal now

After MONTHS

[wheat sigil]

glhf

[frail bloom]

What does that mean

[dense belfry]

Does anyone know what level infernal chasm plays in?

[wheat sigil]

good luck have fun

[frail bloom]

Oh ok thank you

Bro I punched by accident

Uh oh, I'm in for a long one

[brave leaf]

I think I genuinely hate morale encounters ngl
Maybe that'll change at some point in the future but idk

[neon gust]

what are morale encounters?

[frail bloom]

I forgot, I had double jump😭

[brave leaf]

Kill a bunch of enemies to disable the big guy's shield

[wheat sigil]

meathook bouta be wild

[frail bloom]

Imma rediscover this entire game lol

Honestly, I punch fodder for the falter

[neon gust]

oh yeah those

I don't mind them honestly they can be fun

[vital rapids]

Oh... the slow mo mod added direct binds to weapons without class switching?!

[wheat sigil]

quick swaps gonna go crazyy

[vital rapids]

punching things to death now has a higher skill ceiling and more nuanced gameplay, enjoy

[frail bloom]

Bro I jumped down a cliff and expected ro make a shockwave😭 I miss muh shockwave

[frail bloom]

No in eternal, after playing tda so much

First thing I do is punch

[vital rapids]

yup, 's what I meant

[frail bloom]

Bro I pressed square to switch weapons😭 Instead of the arrow button. I'm cooked

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/zooey-deschanel-new-girl-punch-gif-16973901

[frail bloom]

The game looks like poo tho lol

What happened?? It didn't look like that before

Ohhh ye pb time

[brave leaf]

I'm ngl I'm lost
I might be stupid but I have nooo idea where to go

I gunned down that ship thing and idk what to do now

[hollow sandal]

Board the ship

[frail bloom]

It's mixed kinda poo too

[vital rapids]

aim at the landing pad and hit ctrl
... or whatever the controller equivalent is.

[frail bloom]

Damn

Bruh, it took me like 13 minutes

That was quick

[brave leaf]

ANOTHER morale encounter
Wohoo

[frail bloom]

Someone compare the unwilling from eternal and tda

He looks like a hotdog lol

Crossaint hotdog

Now I'm hungry

[brave leaf]

"From Beyond" completed

OK I just gotta stop and say dark ages graphics are amazing

[neon gust]

amazing idea, gotta try that

[frail bloom]

It tastes real good trust

[vital rapids]

I'd love a bonus side mission where you could play as a sentinel soldier during the invasion across some classic-style maps. Just guns and chaos
and it just ramps up the pressure until you inevitably die, and is scored on how far you can get
perhaps with a leaderboard

[frail bloom]

Ughghghgh purple goo

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/zach-king-zach-king-grimace-grimace-mcdonalds-gif-10321262329849840884

[ionic meteor]

so, i had a cfg file that disabled Raytracing and made my game run smoothly at the cost of occasional visual hell. That no longer works and my game runs slower than a school PowerPoint presentation. anyone know a fix to re-disable it?

there's a DLC now??

ah

no idea, do you know how to answer my question?

currently screwing with it to try to fix it

[real rampart]

you prob will have to wait for a patch on that mod, Path Tracing was implemented on today's patch and that most likely broke the mod

[ionic meteor]

as stated I'm trying to fix it myself

[real rampart]

I see, well then I don't know how to help

[ionic meteor]

hopefully won't need any

[real rampart]

what graphic card you playing on?

[ionic meteor]

3050 laptop

it has raytracing, but makes it far too lagy to play

[real rampart]

and the game runs badly on a 3050 laptop, weird

even with DLSS?

[ionic meteor]

even with, at most i got 18fps

[real rampart]

I would expect a 3050 laptop to run at least a solid 40-50fps

[ionic meteor]

i only have 4 gigs of Vram

[real rampart]

ah, ok that explains it

[ionic meteor]

yeah

[real rampart]

but its very likely the path tracing implementation broke the cfg file

or at least whetever setting you tweaked to allow you to play without RT

[ionic meteor]

I'm turning everything i see with raytracing off, and i didn't mess with it before

[frail bloom]

How much did you get without raytracing beforehand?

[ionic meteor]

60+, 70 on average

[frail bloom]

Damn

What did it look like?

[ionic meteor]

dark areas were the void, certian things did the weird blending stuff broken Gmod skyboxes do, where it imprints what you last looked at, but was still all black and only reflected silverish colored things and was incredibly playable

also certain things, like portals and banners stretched across the multiverse and beyond

[frail bloom]

Lol can you imagine if they implement a 120 fps mode and it's just baked lighting in like 2 years or smt

Wouldn't happen but would be funny

[ionic meteor]

it would

[frail bloom]

You think?

[ionic meteor]

it'd be funny, wouldn't happen

[frail bloom]

Oh ye ye

[ionic meteor]

I'm hopeful, but realistic about it though

[frail bloom]

You think modders can do that?

[ionic meteor]

probably

[frail bloom]

Or just too expensive

[ionic meteor]

wouldn't know on that front, I'm not knowledgeable. I am every form of winging it rn

[frail bloom]

Fair

[ionic meteor]

what does it mean when it says something can only be set on the command line?

[frail bloom]

Uhhhh
@mild loom

You know tech stuff!!!!

[mild loom]

whats up

[ionic meteor]

like
r_raytracingpipelineusedeferredoperation 0
-r_raytracingpipelineusedeferredoperation 0 can only be set on the command line

[ionic meteor]

this is

[frail bloom]

Or y'know, I'll ask Jim

👀

[mild loom]

yeah whats up

[ionic meteor]

they pinged you for a question i had