health

[trail lantern]

damn i need that 😄

[fathom juniper]

Aljo a professionist

[queen sail]

i noticed it awhile back that I would always fall asleep in the position

and ive done it ever since

just works

[trail lantern]

i take like 10-15 mins to fall asleep when tired

idk if its just me or bad habits or smthn

[queen sail]

I also havent suffered from insomnia the past couple years

which is a benefit

esp helps with the falling asleep when I want to part

[trail lantern]

does anyone happen to know why i have started to yawn alot lately?

even with good amount of sleep

its been going on for about 5 days now and it really pisses me off as i try to yawn but nothing and it kinda hurts

[arctic moat]

it does

but

one thing that can help as well

is using night filter

gets rid of blue light

or at least reduces it

on windows it's called night light

and on phone you have

warm screen color filters too

[queen sail]

night light makes screen too orange

i just have low blue light maxed on monitor

idk how much that helps tho

[trail lantern]

f.lux best

why does it matter that your screen is too orange?

[arctic moat]

i have it on

by default

it puts less strain on my eyes

but ye

it doesn't look very good

[violet swan]

I use f.lux

all day

[arctic moat]

ye that's very good

[violet swan]

for the vod review what is a session?

like if I record my games for like 6 hours how much of that should I actually review per day

[arctic moat]

it varies

but 1 session could be like 30minutes to 1h

[queen sail]

you should make note of situations that you thought could be played better

or situations where you think you played somethingwell

then look at that

[arctic moat]

if you do it everyday

there's no point to

review another 6 hours

[queen sail]

take notes on what you did that was good and bad since what you think of in retrospect isnt going to be perfect

[arctic moat]

just pick a few games to review, especially ones you didn't play well in

ye

[queen sail]

usually break things down into categories of mechanics, positioning, etc

[arctic moat]

agree with aljo

[queen sail]

so that way you can isolate specifically what to work on
If something comes up repeatedly you've found yourself something deserving of a lot of attention/focus in your practice sessions, if nothing comes up consistently just figure out what thing you think has the highest probability of causing you issues in the future and isolate that

[arctic moat]

:>

[queen sail]

:>

usually vod reviewing 2-3 times a week if you have time is a good amount

30-90 minutes is a good amount of time to set aside

[violet swan]

thank you guys

[violet swan]

also how important is the time you wake up at?

like is waking up at 7:00am better than 11:00am

for example

[zealous pivot]

to whoever was asking about cold showers

it's also been shown to improve blood flow and increase testosterone

it's especially useful to take a cold shower after lifting

it helps the muscles recover faster after a workout

@violet swan You may want to do your own research on that, but from my own experience, I think so.

I've been both an early bird and a night owl in my life

And I've always felt more well-rested waking up early

[worthy cloud]

Cold showers are actually good yeah

Some pro strongmen use hold/cold tubs alternating to help recovery

[tepid cave]

iam doing cold shower for like 5-6month

i can tell its benfits and right way of doing it

always go from head not feet

BECAUSE this is a rule for healthy living - COOL mind , SOFT belly and WARM feet

so that why always go from head

[small ibex]

Curry was asking about how much the time you wake up matters. Does it matter? I think I do best in the early early mornings like 5-7

[violet swan]

thats what seems like the sweet spot from most early birds

im just trying to find an optimal time because if im gonna fix my sleep I just wanna fix it all the way and wake up early if needed

[small ibex]

How do you even go about fixing youe sleep schedule? Currently I am up till 1 and waking up minutes before class. I am now also missing class rarely.

[violet swan]

idk its hard for me too

thats why I wanna find a really good time so I dont have to do it again anytime soon

if anybody has some methods they have used for fixing their shit sleep schedules

that would be nice to know cus im lost when it comes to fixing my sleep

[oblique elbow]

I'm a veteran of fixing sleep schedules

You just need a lot of willpower

Essentially you have to stay awake until a normal time the next day

which means you'll be awake for like 20 hours+

but then you sleep at a normal time and wake up at a normal time the next day (hopefully)

sometimes, you will sleep at the normal time, but wake up half way through the night, you must try to fall back asleep but no matter what happens, get up at the normal morning time

no napping

staying awake gets very hard but I would advice any sort of exercise when oyu start getting sleepy, just force yourself to get up and go for a walk or cycle or do 10 jumping jacks or whatever

it'll delay a bit more but you'll still feel like shit and want to sleep so bad - you just can't if you want to fix your sleep schedule

[small ibex]

Will you mess up your sleep schedule if lets say go to bed 2 hours later then normal on weekends?

[oblique elbow]

That's fine, but be ware that Sunday night when you try to get to bed at 2 hours earlier time it will be harder to fall asleep so get into bed a little earlier

[small ibex]

Well will it still be harder if you only stay up late for 2 more hours saturday night?

[violet arch]

GG @small ibex, you just advanced to level 8 !

[oblique elbow]

Well will it still be harder if you only stay up late for 2 more hours saturday night?
@small ibex depends when you wake up

if you stay up 2 hours more but still wake up at the same time you would wake up on Monday then there's no difference you'll just feel more tired during the day from getting less sleep

[small ibex]

Ig 2 hours later then when I would prefer to wake up

[oblique elbow]

yea so if you do that then it's not unlikely that it's a little harder

but it's onyl 2 hours

so not much

[small ibex]

Yeah makes sense

[oblique elbow]

it varies from person to person but just generally speaking

[barren talon]

[surreal turret]

what's everyone's supplement stack?

[worthy cloud]

various fish oils, multivitamin, extra vitamin D

was using creatine for a while

some joint stuff as well

also started an eye health supplement recently

[honest river]

bacopa gang

[violet arch]

GG @honest river, you just advanced to level 15 !

[honest river]

d-3 mk7 gang

[wild grove]

@worthy cloud you take cold showers/

?

was just wondering if it might be good for shakiness

[worthy cloud]

hmm

shakiness

I dunno

usually it's for muscle recovery and soothing inflammation I think

[wild grove]

hmm

might be good for my eczema then

[loud plover]

Cold showers tighten your "pores" , so to speak

They could help!

[nimble cipher]

cold showers

have improved my health so much

i just feel so good after

[tepid ridge]

thats true

cold showers are superior

[grand sundial]

I get a lot of sleep 9-10 hours each day but the sleep quality is fucking terrible

I wake up feeling like

I get like no rem sleep and i dont get enough deep

[worthy cloud]

yeah my deep sleep sucks

sometimes melatonin helps

sometimes it doesn't

what helps a lot is keeping it quiet and dark

[grand sundial]

Melatonin helps me sleep but I wake up multiple times

bad sleep still

[rotund meteor]

I love weighted blankets

A good bed, weighted blankets, bamboo pillow, and aircon on 18*c

Officeworks is delivering a manual adjustable table to me in a few days

I have a table that has drawers

And blocks my legs and is abormally high

So my nerves get pressure pinched all day

And am now starting to have symptoms

[worthy cloud]

bamboo pillow??

[rotund meteor]

yes

Bamboo pillows are nice for me

[worthy cloud]

never heard of em 😄

[rotund meteor]

what!!

srs?

Buy one and smack it against someone

[violet arch]

GG @rotund meteor, you just advanced to level 1 !

[worthy cloud]

shredded bamboo memory foam?

[rotund meteor]

It sounds like a cannon when u hit someone with it

[worthy cloud]

is it different from the typical memory foam?

[rotund meteor]

Bamboo fibers in casing

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 1 !

[rotund meteor]

Shredded memory foam

[zealous pivot]

It helps to sleep in a somewhat cool room. You need to drop your body's core temp to initiate sleep.

[nimble cipher]

how can i heal shoulder injury

but keep working out

besides shoulder obviously

i took a week break from working out

and it felt like it was gone

then it came back

[willow bane]

Good ways to stop wrist pain?

Last time i stopped playing for a few days but now its back

And i didnt find any stretches that target the area that i need

Maybe dm idk

[arctic moat]

check the pins Kastor has a guide for it

[night horizon]

Does anyone have ergomic chair recommendations ? (I know availability will kind of be country dependent though)
I really hate my chair and i feel like it's slanted backwards too much, i've been wanting to replace it for years now.

[violet swan]

@violet swan you may be experiencing eye strain, or you may not be blinking because you are focusing so much

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 4 !

[strange coyote]

Are there any side sleepers in here with a side sleeper pillow?

[violet swan]

got a body pillow

[strange coyote]

If so how are they “performing”?

[prisma cradle]

wtf

You saying my sleepposigion affects my aim?

[strange coyote]

The quality of your sleep does.

[prisma cradle]

True

But like

I just sleep

[oak orbit]

what is a side sleeper pillow?

picture?

[prisma cradle]

Idk either

[strange coyote]

There are 2 types of them one for the neck and one for everything

[prisma cradle]

I am a side sleeper

But don't have like a special pillow

[strange coyote]

They are U-shaped to support the neck

[prisma cradle]

Also it is almost 4am so I should sleep so I can perform tmrw

[oak orbit]

oohh

[prisma cradle]

Oh got you now

[strange coyote]

They support the neck cause you have the height difference between your shoulder and neck . Normal pillows don’t support that quite good

[prisma cradle]

I had that

Felt good

[oak orbit]

thats the pillow i have

caved in the middle

feels good on my neck

[strange coyote]

In what kind of sleeping Position are you sleeping ?

[oak orbit]

i usually sleep on my stomach

[strange coyote]

That’s odd. My neck would die if I would have slept like that

[rotund meteor]

I sleep on my stomach

I used to sleep on side but cut circulation to my arm sometimes when I wake up

So I sleep on stomach

[zealous pivot]

that happens to me sometimes if I sleep on my stomach

i'd have my arm up and under my pillow

so when I wake up, my arm is completely numb

[queen sail]

I do the same thing

except my arm is never numb

[zealous pivot]

it feels like I'm not even touching my arm when I try to move it....super weird

best position

[queen sail]

100%

although

I usually cross my legs

[zealous pivot]

i do that sometimes

my roommate sleeps with his arms folded

[queen sail]

LOL

[zealous pivot]

should I be worried? is he a vampire or some shit?

[zenith rapids]

i sleep with my hands in my pants

cupping my nutsack

it’s so comfortable

[queen sail]

I once fell asleep at a 90deg angle

that was fun

[zenith rapids]

how

[queen sail]

Skill

[zealous pivot]

that can't be good for your back

[queen sail]

no

it felt horrible

when i woke up

but it was fun to try

[acoustic niche]

Does anyone here take cold showers? If so is it meant to be really cold or just luke warm. Also how long do they take it for?

[strange coyote]

Like freezing cold like in nature cold

Just a normal shower length

That’s how I do it

[hollow lion]

you're a chad for taking cold showers

i take like medium to hot showers cuz cold is uncomfortable

[strange coyote]

My skin gets dry and itchy when I shower too hot and if I am showering cold I won’t freeze over the day even if it is like really cold outside

You should try it out even if it is uncomfortable at first.

[pure quartz]

You literally have "Ice" in your nickname

[violet arch]

GG @pure quartz, you just advanced to level 2 !

[willow bane]

does anyone know stretches for that region?

i wasnt able to find any

[worthy cloud]

I have pain issues with that area too

rolling my wrist with a hockey stick or something in my hand seems to help a little

[willow bane]

did you take a break or anything like that?

[worthy cloud]

yeah it comes back if I play too much kovaaks in 1 day

I gotta take it easy

[willow bane]

i hate it so much

i want to grind but then i cant play for 2-3 days

if i just had stretches for that area

[violet swan]

where is health routine doc?

[zenith rapids]

is it not pinned

[queen sail]

it is pinned

[arctic moat]

it is

in #health

[willow bane]

@worthy cloud do you know what that are is called?

[worthy cloud]

Maybe ulnar stretches could help

I'm not really sure

Gotta look into it more later

Or just rotation mobility

[willow bane]

maybe you could dm me if you find anything

that would be rly nice

[willow bane]

Musculus abductor digiti minimi
and
Musculus extensor digiti minimi
i think those are the names of the are

not sure

[pseudo owl]

what stretches do u currently do

[willow bane]

i tried a lot but i didnt find any that help with the area that i need

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664134326581067816/703328036715757618/istockphoto-483747887-1024x1024_LI.jpg

maybe you know something

[pseudo owl]

Yeh I saw

idk what area the stretches I do work on

[willow bane]

but you can feel it

the tension

[pseudo owl]

u can try putting ur hand at a 90 angle and using ur other hand pulling it back from the palm

u can always massage that area before

to relax it

It's hard to explain in words

[willow bane]

hm

[nimble palm]

ay guys

so when i use an arm sleeve

my palms get a bit thick, but thats it

is it a bloodflow thing

and no its not juvenile arthritis or carpal syndrome or anything like that

it just gets a bit thick after gaming

when i wear the sleeve

[meager ore]

describe thick

[nimble palm]

like

my palms feel like they have absorbed water

not even the whole palm

just the part under the thumb

and under the pinky

[strange coyote]

That sounds not healthy to me

Which sleeve are you using?

@nimble palm

[worthy cloud]

Might be too tight

[strange coyote]

or is it becoming too hot under the sleeve?

[worthy cloud]

maybe some kind of blood pressure issue

sounds like a circulation thing

[violet swan]

wore a wrist brace for 1 day iced twice that dayvand did exercises before in the middle and after computer use

snd can say my wrist is starting to feel better after 7 days of feeling the same(horrible)

10/10 would recommend

also drink water and get some full body exercises in to promote blood flow after icing xd

[nimble palm]

yeah so it was too tight

it was a circulation thing

*bloodflow issue

[willow bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664134326581067816/703328036715757618/istockphoto-483747887-1024x1024_LI.jpg

does anyone here know stretches for that area of the hand?

[arctic moat]

That's a duplicate question

I don't know if we have particular stretches for that specific area but there's a stretching guide from Kastor which you can use

And I think it will most likely target that area as well

https://bit.ly/2u8zZaF

There's also a few here:

https://gmb.io/wrists/

And then there's the ones from Dr. Levi

@willow bane

[willow bane]

yea i tried them all already 😦

[arctic moat]

maybe best to ask a physiotherapist in that case

since it's that specific

[zealous pivot]

alright so I decided to do more research on cold showers

apparently it has so many benefits, it's almost comical

[queen sail]

im still confused about

temperature for cold showers

[zealous pivot]

well it needs to be super cold, almost ice cold

[queen sail]

mmmmm ok

[zealous pivot]

yeah, im starting to doubt some of these

[arctic moat]

Be careful with the temperature

[queen sail]

mmmmmm sparky doctor

[arctic moat]

You need to be able to breathe in a certain way to withstand the cold

[zealous pivot]

yeah

that's pretty much the body going into shock

[arctic moat]

It's probably most beneficial if you jump straight into cold

but

you can also do it gradually

in any case it's not that insanely important

the other healthy habits are going to help the most

[queen sail]

motivation to carry out a daily routine lasted me 18 hours

pog

[zealous pivot]

speaking of cold showers...

what's your guy's take on NoFap?

Has anyone tried it?

[queen sail]

is nofap just going extended times or is there more to it?

[zealous pivot]

basically. they say you should go for 90 days for a "full reboot"

some of these mfers have gone 300+ days

[queen sail]

so

thats a long

time

[zealous pivot]

idk

[queen sail]

placebo

most likely

I think youd be hard pressed to find someone in this discord

:)))

[zealous pivot]

it seems like it would only make sense if you have a porn addiction

then yeah, it's a good thing

but if you're a casual user, you won't see much benefit from it

[wild grove]

i find it a lot easier to do cold shower

if you warm shower for a bit

and dial it to cold for the last part of your shower

like i dial it to cold when i wanna wash the shampoo out of my hair

[queen sail]

^^^

[zealous pivot]

cowards

just jump in there, ice cold

[zenith rapids]

i just bathe in ice baths

[zealous pivot]

^

[strange coyote]

Shower > bath. Cold showers are awesome for your overall feeling.

[strange coyote]

Hey, I wanna ask if you guys can recommend me a nice chair for longer sessions/work for supporting my back/posture in general. 🙂

[hollow ibex]

Hmm.. cold showers are a thing? I need the water boiling to be comfortable. Having a cold shower would ruin my day - gotta look into it though.

[hollow spade]

I have mini muscle spasms in my right hand and super stiff muscles it’s like worse case for aiming

[violet swan]

use your left then lmao

[hollow spade]

<_> noooo

[zenith rapids]

why does my diaphragm randomly like spasm sometimes

feels like its contracting

[zealous pivot]

hiccups?

[zenith rapids]

no not hiccups

just randomly moving

feels weird

[zealous pivot]

oof that's beyond my paygrade

i'd see a pro doctor about that

[zenith rapids]

lol aight no worries

[violet swan]

u could have benign muscle twitching

harmless

[zenith rapids]

yeah possibly

[tepid cave]

https://youtu.be/UW_z6bCy1ZI

so in this video

rambo lift his hand

in the first step

as u can see the tumbnail 2nd photo

i cant lift like this my hand are tilted not straight

please suggest me exercise

when i lift my arm like in this tumbnail 2nd photo my hand starting to pain

😫 😭 😭 😭

please tell me exercise which can fix my issue

i know how this habit is build it is becoz of i use my mouse diagonally

[coral halo]

what

[dull trail]

how can I ease eye strain and unfocusing when I'm trying to look at my crosshair

[nimble palm]

don’t focus on your crosshair

[oak orbit]

?

[dull trail]

when I stare at my crosshair my eyes unfocus and I see double/kinda fuzzy

and I have to manually snap them back into focus every few seconds

any fps

its just focusing too hard on the crosshair makes me feel really uncomfortable

[violet arch]

GG @uneven plover, you just advanced to level 2 !

[dull trail]

thanks

[bold crane]

What does the channel mean by “mental?”

[worthy cloud]

mentality/mental health I think

[violet swan]

anyone able to help with shaking please dm me

pls be really good

[worthy cloud]

maybe @oak orbit could help?

[violet swan]

def has something to do with tensing

[bold crane]

Probs not the mental health I'm looking for then oof

[worthy cloud]

I took a psych class in college

[bold crane]

Naisu

My issue is that I'm petrified of failure. Gatekept me in League and Ow too

[worthy cloud]

I can relate

[bold crane]

Ye idk how to get over it

Gatekept me from going to college too lol

I took too much caffeine now I'm shaking lol

[oak orbit]

i take a lot of caffeine

hmm shaking

[bold crane]

I barely took any

[oak orbit]

if youre tensing

[bold crane]

I don't usually take caffeine

[worthy cloud]

dax has it pretty bad

I saw a clip

[oak orbit]

Ins told me to practice using my keyboard to shoot when playing kovaaks

[bold crane]

I read online my best bet is to wait it out, drink a lot of water

[oak orbit]

and fully relax my hand

[worthy cloud]

he's fine most of the time then goes crazy while spraying someone in valorant

[violet swan]

yup

[bold crane]

Like my entire body is shakey not just my arm

[violet swan]

do you want to see it kosei?

[worthy cloud]

that's what I do in kovaaks when I have trouble, bind fire to kb

[violet swan]

kevin

Im gonna send you the not shaking

[worthy cloud]

ok

[violet swan]

in a sec

streamable link

uploading

its kinda long

[zenith rapids]

i’m digging the pfp kosei

it’s fire

[violet swan]

i have a question that i would really like answered

[dull trail]

just ask

[violet swan]

what kind of affects does physical fitness have on aim

and just overall play

[dull trail]

I'm not sure if there's been any research done on this topic, but ig if you have strong forearms its good for endurance and speed with wrist aiming and you'll have good stability in your arms if you work those as well

farmer carries are pretty op for this

[manic osprey]

Im having issues with blurry vision when doing precision/clicktiming scens like 1w6ts

like my eyes get teary or sometimes burn a little bit

[wild grove]

have you

taken a break

[manic osprey]

im 30 minutes into my session

i think im just not blinking enough

[scenic furnace]

how useful is strength training your arms?

[oak orbit]

For?

[scenic furnace]

aim

[oak orbit]

Doubt it matters for aim

[scenic furnace]

probs only slows aim fatigue

[oak orbit]

Its possible ye

[eternal dock]

Shoulders and rear delts effect posture and aim

[oak orbit]

Well you don't need to strength train to have good posture

[eternal dock]

Correct. But it does help.

[dull trail]

yeah

if you work your core and back it makes having bad posture very uncomfortable

[oak orbit]

Sure, strength training may help posture in some circumstances. I don't believe it affects aim that much, if at all

[pseudo owl]

It's a good habit to have good posture

[worthy cloud]

strength training is good for overall health which is good for overall game performance

but I don't think there's any direct correlation

unless you need some kind of corrective movements if you have a posture problem

[eternal dock]

Posture effects aim quite a bit.

[oak orbit]

ofc

[bleak tangle]

Om about strenght training

There are some correlation

But they are not that obviouse

First things first sorry for my englandorino, not good at this cuz my parents didn't want me to learn at my young, so tbh i started learning english at university

but back to the topic

So there are propably more of the correlations that i will show you, but first i can see are the over-body atp level

and the second are

how to say that

Myosatellite cell amount is increasing while explosive/strength training

and its change how fast you can use your muscles

for (in that case) big muscles

its diffrence between

let's say 0.5 sec to 5-10 sec

and for really slow muscles

Like Flexor digitorum superficialis muscle

Its like changing from 1 sec to 0.8 sec

I came up with those numbers dont take them seriously

[violet arch]

GG @bleak tangle, you just advanced to level 1 !

[bleak tangle]

So after all in some weird way strenght training can affect your reaction time

Cause you can use your body in more effective (for nervous system) way

[sand jackal]

I've been noticing more wrist stiffness since I changed some things (mouse, higher sens), but stretching has made it bearable but today it really feels as if my wrist isn't limber at all. I haven't had much good sleep the last two nights though so do people think that could be the issue or something else

But with quarantine I'm also using the pc a load more then usual, so I don't know if its just general overwork or something

[bleak tangle]

Dude

static stretching before playin will make you wrist more like limp

i would recommend you to abort stretching or move it before sleep

and as a active stretching before game

play some maps that demands fast big movements

maps for arm training

and use only your wrist

then slowly start to use more and more arm

it shouldnt took you more than 5-10 minutes at all

You can even start from fingers only movement, if its hard then for that time make your sens 2-3 times higher

1 minute everyday of stuff like this won't ruin your aim

and its great warm up that will makes your whole wrist more responding

and flexible

[sand jackal]

I mainly just do the mobility routine in the pins after some aim training, and then actual stretching before sleep/after finished with the pc about 5mins each

[dusk grotto]

anyone ever do a dopamine detox?

[unreal citrus]

is there a way to stop shaking in your hand? i feel like i have essential tremors or some shit

makes my aim parkinsons

i can be owning and accurate but the shake wil kick in and i cant fix it even if i relax the shit out of my grip

[wild grove]

lmk if u find out

i am a parkinson aimer

[unreal citrus]

its aids isnt it

its handicapping me so bad

its not that im not smooth either, it will just randomly "kick in" and my smoothness is gone

tried wrist excercises, tried grip strength training, tried meditation/breathing techniques

[zenith rapids]

i am also mega parkinson’s aimer tax

taz

and idk what to do

[eternal dock]

I do that too. It's usually from reading/ mouse control

B180 tracking small fixed or w/e it is helps

[edgy vortex]

It didn't break, it's a feature :^)

[eternal dock]

Also relacing

Relaxing

[drowsy vigil]

i didnt know gaming was this serious lol

[toxic ferry]

my back is hurting sooo bad. 4 hours sit on my chair and i'm done for the whole day . 😢

[formal lotus]

You really should be getting up and I really should be taking my own advice

[silent osprey]

if he's only sitting for 4 hours and in pain, it's not not standing up that is the issue

[toxic ferry]

well i'm a bit overweight 🐷 so doesn't help

[eternal dock]

I sit for like 12 hrs a day.

:(

[lavish pivot]

Mice with holes, reeeee

[hidden dust]

where you sticking your fingers?

[zenith rapids]

in my ass

its cause of the hole mouse

smh

[eternal dock]

Jesus. Chill with the death grip my man

[meager ore]

Does anyone have valuable resources for mental stuff? I have a bad rap for not being smart and autopiloting a lot. I know there are a few resources but are there any more?

[lavish pivot]

Honestly I think it's actually helpful to learn advanced maths or something complex. There's free courses online. Sounds silly but it will help with learning how to "use" your brain.

[meager ore]

yeah im just all aim no brain

I'm very reckless in games

i'm really good at math but only when it's just math

[surreal turret]

@meager ore could learn chess?

[meager ore]

that's a good suggestion

[brave condor]

@lavish pivot any recommendation for these courses? currently studying calc but nothing complex, just applying formula and shit.

[lavish pivot]

Nothing specific but doing stuff on udemy and Khan academy is good. @brave condor

Also Harvard has some free courses

[brave condor]

oh yeah ur right, i remember there was some colleges that would release free videos of classes

ty for the tips

[queen sail]

anyone have ideas for why my pinky cramps and feels super stiff when aiming?

like I dont move it around very much or anything

[zealous pivot]

What's your mouse?

I think you mentioned it before but I forgot

[queen sail]

Zowie S2

idk it started happening like the past day or two

[zealous pivot]

Alright, because I had a similar thing happen to me with my XM1

I figured out that it was my pinky knuckle not getting enough support

So instead of my hand curving naturally around the mouse, it kinda dips at the pinky side of my hand

so my entire pinky would cramp up after awhile

Same thing could be happening to you

either that or the mouse isn't wide enough for you

[queen sail]

maybe, I can feel my pinky kinda tucks itself under my ring finger when Im keeping my fingers straight

not enough support might be why

[zealous pivot]

I'm not sure

You could use another mouse to test that theory out

Like an ergo mouse

[queen sail]

mmmmmmm

g403 is far

[zealous pivot]

ik ik...ergo bad

[queen sail]

my kpu gets here sunday

so ig ill test theory then

my g403 and rival 600 are both burried somewhere tho

so testing it rn would be....difficult

[zealous pivot]

I love my Model D, it lowkey feels like sex when I hold it, but I can't aim for shit with it lul

like in games I do alright with it, but kovaaks is rough

[queen sail]

Model D sounds better and better

every day

[zealous pivot]

I mean

If you like the EC1/EC2, you'll automatically like the model d

[queen sail]

never had either :))

[zealous pivot]

Before they released it, I was always hoping someone would make a size between the ec1 and ec2

looks like my wish came true

I love the mouse, but sadly I perform better with other mice for some reason

[queen sail]

yea thats always a bummer

[brittle jackal]

I get tilted when i cant perform as I want to

And because of that, I become stressed and anxious

Whats up

[violet arch]

GG @uneven plover, you just advanced to level 3 !

[brittle jackal]

Thanks @uneven plover

[violet swan]

left side of mr wrist burns whenever i do t switching scenarios. im one 10cm btw

also its not the good burning like oh i feel the burn its like shit im burning

[worthy cloud]

are you squeezing the mouse?

maybe you're twisting your wrist too much too

[violet swan]

yeah im like grippin the mouse pretty hard now that i think about it

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 2 !

[clever raptor]

@violet swan yo thats bad

you might be playing on a fucked up wrist, make sure no deathgripping, good posture, and i suggest lowering ur sens so you can utilize more of your arm

make sure ur wrist is healthy

[glad void]

guys my forearm and wrost feel stiff i cant take a break cuz fncs is today

[zenith rapids]

i mean i cant force you to do anything, but personal health is a lot more important than video games

[violet swan]

Is pizza good or bad for vrt ?

[zenith rapids]

[oak rapids]

God tier

[zealous pivot]

wow g8 question

so good, in fact, we'll wait to give you an answer to let it sink in for us

[zenith rapids]

what

[arctic moat]

@vestal pumice Please only ask related questions

[vestal pumice]

it is health related-ish

[arctic moat]

It's not really something we would know or should need to answer here

[vestal pumice]

sorry dad

[arctic moat]

np

[gritty crest]

whats a good hrv4 to aim for

and how increase and how many calories do you think is good enough for a a day i do 500

[oak orbit]

@gritty crest 500 calories a day is really low

and very unhealthy

i wouldnt go under 1200

[arctic moat]

gabriel why do you only have 500 a day

anyway?

what's your goal

[oak orbit]

and im not familiar with hrv4

[arctic moat]

if it's to lose weight then simply being calorie deficit will be sufficient

you dont need to not eat

[gritty crest]

im saying exercise sry

not saying eating

[oak orbit]

oh

well

[arctic moat]

you mean you burn 500 calories

a day?

[gritty crest]

ye

[arctic moat]

again with what objective?

[oak orbit]

depends what you do for your workout

[gritty crest]

burnt by exercise

@arctic moat idk i heard that exercise helps the brain

and improves performance

so thats why im doing it

@oak orbit cardio

[arctic moat]

losing weight? gaining muscle and fat fast? (bulking) keeping muscle losing fat? (cutting) gaining muscle losing fat? (balanced)

Oh so

[oak orbit]

i mean

[arctic moat]

You're doing exercise to improve cognitive performance

[oak orbit]

you dont need to have a calorie burnt goal

[arctic moat]

And you don't care about

those other things I mentioned?

Then yeah I agree with Kosei

[oak orbit]

itd be better to have a distance goal if youre running or jogging

[gritty crest]

ye tbh i dont care about my weight im pretty average now

but losing a few pounds wouldnt hurt i guess

sini

[arctic moat]

Well you asked about hrv4

and isn't that a heartbeat monitor

[oak orbit]

depending how much distance will determine how many calories you burn

[arctic moat]

I would always recommend people to get into weight lifting if you want to burn fat

[gritty crest]

ye for performance idk how it works but athletes use it to check if they are ready for training

[arctic moat]

With right diet and schedule you can lose fat and gain muscle

Athletean-X had a vid on it iirc

@gritty crest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5xEYhvj4Q

[gritty crest]

ah kk ty ill check it out tbh i used to do weights but i got so big lol im just doing cardio right now so i might just be cutting

[zealous pivot]

also helps to know what's your body type, what goals you have in mind (like sini said, gaining muscle or just losing weight). I mean, you can't just pick a workout routine and run with it. You need to pick one with you in mind, and what you hope to accomplish

[arctic moat]

Gotta set goals

With your exercise

I highly recommend doing the route to gain muscle and lose fat

You don't need to go into extremes that way

It's called hypo caloric diet

[zealous pivot]

If it's the cognitive benefits you're looking for, or you just want to learn more about it, I suggest you check this video out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVzKCk066g

[gritty crest]

@arctic moat Dam sini how did you know i was on a hypo caloric diet

😦 ye its prob not good

[arctic moat]

What

I didn't say you were

[gritty crest]

wat

ohh

is it good

[arctic moat]

I said the video refers to a hypo caloric diet

Which is very beneficial for losing fat and gaining muscle

[gritty crest]

ohh ok

[arctic moat]

It's a slower process, but you won't need to do the whole bulk and cut process

[violet swan]

i feel myself always tired at afternoon and i cant train help me pls

i tried to sleep at right times didnt help

[gritty crest]

@arctic moat @zealous pivot @oak orbit thanks all

[arctic moat]

We can't really help you without more context, get a good schedule, check in with a sleep therapist perhaps and make sure you have good daily routines @violet swan

s-healthroutines

[stone dawn]

Health improvement routines https://bit.ly/2KrQPWI

[violet swan]

Thanks

[arctic moat]

Some basic things to take into account

• stay hydrated
• exercise
• eat nutritious food

[zealous pivot]

almost forgot

also try meditation

helps to relieve stress, think clearer, and helps you concentrate better

also helps you get into the "flow state" easier

[violet swan]

How to do it?

[arctic moat]

google

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6j9uWrcfg

[violet swan]

I reading about it on Wikipedia in my language it sounds weird

[soft flax]

Anyone here know where I can buy a barbell in the UK right now? Seem to be sold out everywhere

[zealous pivot]

Meditation can be spiritual, but it definitely doesn't have to be. Just be in a comfortable position and focus on your breathe. If your mind wanders, catch yourself and redirect your attention back to the breathe. Rinse and repeat. If you're a non-religious/non-spiritual person like myself, you don't need to do mudras or hand poses.

You'll still see the benefit from regular meditation.

[zenith rapids]

yeah there is plenty of non religious meditation

it’s just simply relaxing your mind and body

and it can also be a time for self reflection

[grand sundial]

i fell asleep and i woke up and i cant go back asleep

what i do

[grand sundial]

fuck it im staying up

[fresh lake]

I want to play KovaaK as a main game where I play it 3/4 hours a day. I one time watched this video about ZexRow playing a lot of KovaaK and then getting some sort of wrist syndrome, I think it was carpel tunnel. Since then I've always have been scared to play KovaaK more than 30 minutes/1 hour. I play with a low sens which means I aim with my whole arm. I'm I save to play KovaaK more??

[queen sail]

look at pins for the posture/wrist stretches guide

[fresh lake]

thank you.

[grand sundial]

Look into strength training for your arm/wrist. It completelty eliminated all pain from playing games after

for me anyways

[hollow ibex]

@soft flax tried argos? Just thinking decent stock/delivery. They may not even have correct size/weight tbh

[violet swan]

@clever raptor do you think I should lower my sens from 10cm to 16cm or something even lower because I don't want to fuck up my wrist more

[violet swan]

if its bad there is no point playing more and making it worse

take a break do stretches ect

then maybe come back to it and use a lower sensitivity so u involve more of your arm

instead of isolating wrist

[clever raptor]

@violet swan idk how you're accurate with <20 in the first place, but definitely do something other than only changing your sens. it is your health after all

[wooden gazelle]

why he sitting like that

[meager ore]

why he sitting like that

[arctic moat]

@violet swan ofc not please dont post stuff like that in here

[river thicket]

Man how do I fix my shit sleep schedule? I've been going to bed at 7am and waking up at like 3pm for the past couple of months

[shell prism]

Go to bed the earliest you can say that's 10-11-12. Then get up at 5-6 and go for a walk, wake up with the sun if you can. Then make it a habit to get up that early.

Soon you'll be asleep at 10 getting up that early

Make sure your room is dark too.

Helps produce melatonin which is your sleep hormone.

Ceridian rhythm is pretty important for overall health as much as it's never talked about, can drastically change your health for the better and improve performance just overall.

[river thicket]

Okay man I will keep that in mind thank you

[soft flax]

@hollow ibex yeah, decided I'll wait till quarantine is over before buying a barbell. Looking to get a kettlebell or 2 now, same issue again, sold out everywhere

[violet swan]

almost same question as gahgae question i going to sleep at 6pm and waking up at late night and i cant fix it

i trying to not sleep but i falling asleep around 6 pm

[hollow ibex]

@soft flax I got a dumbbell set and a kettlebell at the start of quarantine, not what I wanted but it'll do

[worthy cloud]

yeah

I'm really missing a full gym

I haven't had a real good workout since lockdown started and I feel horrible

I have dumbbells and bands and a bench but it's not enough

[hollow ibex]

Yeah, I've put on the pounds for sure :)

[icy portal]

hey guys recently im trying to switch from to palm, but my ring finger is hurts on the side that touches the mouse, is there anything that am i might doing wrong or is just habit?

[violet swan]

maybe too tight of a grip?

[icy portal]

idk, might try to loosen it up but i wouldnt want to relax too much

thank you for your advice tho ill try itr out

@violet swan seems like it was it, cant believe i was doing such a basic mistake lol, prob is because im not comfy with my current mouse

[eternal dock]

Yokai you don't want to be very tense.

Tension in the arm/shoulder is bad hand is fine just don't deathgrip

[fresh lake]

I'm having some really painfull pain spikes, almost like someone is stabbing me in that location. I don't know if it's from gaming or KovaaK.

does anyone know what it could be?

[eternal dock]

Probably your sub scapularis hanging from a pullup bar and streaching your lats might help

For permanent fix work on your posture.

Also could be an issue w your hips

[fresh lake]

damn

[eternal dock]

Could just be inflimation that area likes to get caught. And inflames and causes alot of irritation

You could also try a heating pad.

Be more aware of tension in that area and your traps when kovaaking

Also could be pec minor. So see if streaching your chest with your arms overhead helps

Doorways are perfect for doing that

[fresh lake]

hmm

the doorway stretch doesn't really help

I'm going to try to stretch my lats right now

I don't have something like a pole I can hold onto

ohyeah

that's my lat

How many times should I stretch it?

[worthy cloud]

just don't go crazy

there's no set number of times

[fresh lake]

Apreciate the help btw <3 @eternal dock

and you too Kevin

[eternal dock]

Do 3-5 sets of 30 seconds

5 sets is therapy level don't do that for a long time a week at most 1x a day

I'd stick w 3 personally

[fresh lake]

will do, thanks!

[icy portal]

@eternal dock yes dw I'm not having, fortunately, any pain on those sections, only muscle improvement. Probably I think that since this is my first time trying to go claw I'm probably doing something wrong, and I don't particularly like the xm1, even though generally it's a really good choice

[eternal dock]

Your just tensing other muscles because you dont feel like you can control claw grip well

Just work on relaxing more

[icy portal]

But it's only my hand and fingers that hurts

Not other arm sections

Btw @fresh lake other than the very good advice that it's already been given, i would suggest you to pay attention if by any chance you tend to lean on that side while you are gaming or sitting in general. I'm telling you because I have difference in height between my 2 ankles and I noticed that I tend to lean on the right ones sometimes

[fresh lake]

thank you

[winged marten]

is mouth breathing bad?

[icy portal]

Related to aim I don't think there's a correlation. Concerning everyday life, yes, it's a condition that can cause different illnesses

I suggest you to go to a doctor (even if these are hard times)

[zealous pivot]

I heard constantly breathing through your mouth can cause poor facial structure overtime, since your tongue isn't pressing up against the roof of your mouth. So you can develop things like an overbite. Don't quote me on that. I'd suggest you do your own research.

[tulip perch]

you are correct beckz

but that obviously isnt that big of a problem for adult people.
though cosmetically it can make a difference

you muscles relax when you repeadedly breathe through the mouth

mewing is the keyword

makes your jawline look good

[mellow epoch]

I tried asking this in #advice, and was directed here. Is claw gripping a mouse going to have long term health effects? Im worried that gripping my mouse is such a way would cause arthritis in my fingers.

[tulip perch]

no long term studies have been conducted for these types of questions

so that is all just guesswork

[queen sail]

the problem would more likely be the amount of tension

you are consistently putting on your mouse

not the grip

[tulip perch]

if you are mindful of your health, i doubt anything is gonna happen

just dont crank your wrist 90° and watch the tension of your grip

[queen sail]

the wrist stretches in the pins would be good to look at

[mellow epoch]

Allright. It probably is magnified because my mouse is so small for me. My concern will probably go away when my new mouse arrives.

[queen sail]

what mouse do you have and what is your hand size?

[mellow epoch]

20.5cm x 11cm I currently use a glorious model o-

[violet arch]

GG @mellow epoch, you just advanced to level 3 !

[mellow epoch]

But ive ordered a GPW

[icy portal]

Well for your hand size you should have picked a model o

Model o- is too small for you

[mellow epoch]

I have learned that now.

[eternal dock]

Yeah your gonna feel way better with a larger mouse

[queen sail]

but you might aim worse

although model o- mightve been in the "too small" range

[mellow epoch]

It was. My hand would cramp up and I couldn't get a proper grip on it.

[icy portal]

Next time you can ask us in the #tech channel if you have any doubts regarding which mouse buy or peripheral related stuff

[eternal dock]

I'm so tired I could pass out if I let my eyes close for more then 10 seconds

[zenith rapids]

then sleep

[eternal dock]

I'm at work

I'm essential

Half the people are on furlough I'm in the work rotation this week so it's super busy aswell

[hollow ibex]

Okay maybe dont sleep!

[icy portal]

@eternal dock try to schedule your day in order to get a good amount of sleep and at the same time do what you have to /want to. That means you will undoubtedly have to reduce hobby times

Make sleep>work>hobby priority

[eternal dock]

Yeah that's why I try to do I just couldn't sleep well last night

[icy portal]

It can happen, watch out how much you eat in the evening bc that could cause your sleep problems

Try to not eat too much junk food before sleeping

[icy portal]

guys i noticed that when i try to do micro adjustement with wrist my hand starts to shake, is there any way to fix this?

[zenith rapids]

sounds like you are tensing up

i do the same

try relaxing your arm and wrist

and do some breathing exercises as well

[icy portal]

i'll do thats probably it

[pine widget]

Is having your monitor closer good? I feel it would give better focus etc.

[zealous pivot]

only if you want to totally fuck up your eyes

[violet swan]

you need a new pair of glasses

[night horizon]

So, I hate my chair and I'm really considering buying a herman miller aeron
I'm either a size A or B (most likely a B)

but due to the coronavirus it's impossible for me to go somewhere where i can try out sitting in the chair first.

Is it a bad idea for me to buy the chair without ever having actually tied sitting in one before, or should it just be fine (considering how common aeron chairs are in wrokplaces)

[hollow ibex]

I mean.. those are expensive chairs, right? They should have a good return/refund policy.

[night horizon]

My local retailers refund policy boils down to you open it u buy it.

[hollow ibex]

Ah shit, well for me that's a lot of money to blow on something that may not fit right... I would definitely wait until I could test it. But maybe it will be comfortable regardless ...

The question is: how impatient are you?

[night horizon]

Very but i think I'll practice my patience here and wait it out.

[toxic ferry]

I've really big anger problems

[icy portal]

@toxic ferry take breaks when you start to rage and do Smth else to cool your head off. While in game, just think that's, in fact, a game so you shouldn't take it so badly. Then focus on your mistakes rather than what others says in order to don't get dragged in useless discussions or flames

[toxic ferry]

One side of me thiink you are right, but the other side want to start another game to get back the mmr I just lost.

[icy portal]

You can start another game, just don't get angry

Getting angry is literally Smth every competitive player must avoid its only a con

[toxic ferry]

Ok i just downloaded animal crossing nh. Everytime i'll rage i'll play this game

[median vigil]

the left bottom part of my right palm is red, its where i rest my hand on the table while holding the mouse

[violet arch]

GG @median vigil, you just advanced to level 2 !

[old fossil]

yo, any tips on how keep my eyes from getting dry when using contacts? My eye sight is too poor to play without them unfortunately and glasses warps my monitor too much

[queen sail]

eye drops

frequently

[old fossil]

seems like that might be the only solution for time being

[queen sail]

i mean

its really the only solution

when it comes to contacts

haha

funny joke

[icy portal]

@queen sail bruh...

[old fossil]

ye dont encourage shitty puns

@queen sail doyou have notifs on for this server

[queen sail]

i have notifs on for every server

when im @

[old fossil]

holy shit

id go insane

[queen sail]

i dont get @

very often

[old fossil]

oh

[queen sail]

outside of this server

[old fossil]

when you are @

[queen sail]

I dont have notifs on, i just have nothing better to do

with my time

so I scroll channels here often

[old fossil]

i can respect it

[icy portal]

i dont get @
@queen sail
very often
@queen sail feelsbadman

[queen sail]

-.-

[median spear]

how many times per day should i masturbate to improve vrt?

[clever raptor]

next

[dusk grotto]

0

[fresh lake]

Could it be that my lat gets irritated by my flicky playstyle?

[violet arch]

GG @fresh lake, you just advanced to level 8 !

[clever raptor]

flicky?

[fresh lake]

flicking a lot

Or should I do some lat warm-ups before I start gaming

[icy portal]

you mean that your hand shakes when you aim?

if yes whats your cm

[violet swan]

@fresh lake yeah it could be that your lats get irritated if you play a low sens, bad posture and use big arm movements

[fresh lake]

26.9614 is my cm

[violet swan]

You could tackle it in a couple of ways if you're interested in it. You could either higher your sens, change your aiming style or be mindful of how your lat activates during the big sweeps if you don't care about strengthening your lat muscles and stretching them out

but I think it's accumulated stress that's causing them to be hurting

[fresh lake]

shit

[violet swan]

in any case you could squeeze or hold your lat with your left hand as you're doing your usual type of aiming and figure out when they activate, and when they hurt.

could also be pectoral tightness causing it

in any case, stay fit mate. Stretch the pecs and strengthen those lats to stay save

[fresh lake]

yeah, I'm trying

only the gyms are closed...

thanks for the help tho!

<3

[naive creek]

@fresh lake pull ups are great for lats

Make sure you’re correctly engaging the scapula and your lats should be where the pull is first felt. Otherwise it becomes a bicep and brachialis exercise

[violet swan]

whenever i play for more than an hour my wrist gets tired but never hurts? i wrist aim

[violet swan]

do wrist stretches and strength exercises @violet swan

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 3 !

[violet swan]

they are all over youtube i can dm you some good ones

[zealous pivot]

Check out the pinned messages in this channel

There's a couple of guides on wrist stretches and exercises

[median vigil]

do blueberries lower reaction time

[zenith rapids]

sure

[winged spear]

hmm, anyone have any tips on overcoming a fear of missing your shots?

[strong mason]

I have the runs... What can I do?

[worthy cloud]

@strong mason you might have covid19

[icy portal]

Jackpot

[strong mason]

oh jesus

[violet swan]

i think i have an inflammed thumb and when i do the one above my thumb hurts but when i do the one below it doesnt is that something important?

[worthy cloud]

well they stretch different things

it just means the part that's inflamed isn't the bigger palm thumb muscle

[violet swan]

ty

[violet swan]

I have extremely cold hands while playing

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 1 !

[violet swan]

especially in comp

How can I reduce this ? As soon as I stop playing my hands go back to normal, It's really incomfortable I feel like I can't be at peak lvl

[bright portal]

my keyboard wrist hurts and whenever i tilt it down or up it hurts even more. its been hurting for a few days and keeps getting worse. Should i just stop playing for a few weeks or could it be more serious?

[violet swan]

id stop playing for a week @bright portal

and the wrist for 10-15 minutes atleast 3 times a day too

do light stretches every few hours aswell

had a constant burning pain in my right wrist fro literally 2 weeks thought it was over did exercises took a break and iced it and its gone now

[bright portal]

okay thanks @violet swan. will definitely take a break then. also, could i still practice aim since my mouse hand doens't hurt at all as i dont need my hand on keyboard for kovaak?

[violet swan]

yeah if theres 0 pain at all

[bright portal]

okay cool. just going to not play any actual games then

thanks for the help

[eternal dock]

Oh and don't use keyboard feet

They hike up your wrist that can cause issues like that

[bright portal]

yeah i dont. i also dont use a wrist rest. so i think im planting my wrist sometimes. Also, i think its just my play time

[fiery sequoia]

Is it normal that my old sens caused me insane wrist pain just because I was aiming with the wrist?

[violet arch]

GG @fiery sequoia, you just advanced to level 1 !

[worthy cloud]

not really normal but not unheard of

[willow bane]

i hate my wrist

i just want to play kovaaks but if i play more than a few minutes i get painin the wrist

i tried all kinds of stretches but non of them stretched the right area

[violet swan]

what area do you need stretched @willow bane

[willow bane]

wait a sec

around there

maybe dm me if you know something

[violet arch]

GG @violet swan, you just advanced to level 4 !

[violet swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ptRcFtxSU

@willow bane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0aHLPfcDtY

[willow bane]

ah thank you i'll give it a try

[violet swan]

np lmk

[small ibex]

Why is my hand so shaky?

Like how do I reduce it

It isn’t even only mouse control

Like right now I am trying to play chess but I keep knocking over pieces

[icy portal]

did you switch now from kovaak to chess?

[small ibex]

No, I am just using it as an example to explain.

My aim is very shaky

[violet swan]

I mean I know literally nothing about health, but you could try to stretch the muscles in your arms, helps me sometimes

[prisma urchin]

s-smoothness

[stone dawn]

🍵 Smoothness routine
▫️ change your fov to 80 overwatch
▫️ increase your sensitivity by 10-20%
▫️ play precision / smoothness scenarios
▫️ thin gauntlet, pasu track invincible, popcorn goated tracking invincible, bounce 180 tracking invincible fixed

[prisma urchin]

@small ibex that will help in kovaaks idk about irl

[glossy dove]

Is there a routine for consistency that anyone recommends? I know everyone has their own. But i have one, but it doesnt always work

[glossy dove]

@ me then when someone responds

[queen sail]

wdym by consistency?

[glossy dove]

I mean like i get on and even after a warmup I feel like im not doing as good as i should be doing

Every now and then

And some things i do pregame can affect that

Ygm

[queen sail]

people are inherently inconsistent

also in game has many other variables

compared to warmup (assuming ur using kvks for warmup)

[glossy dove]

Im consistent usually as long as i follow a routine

I do kvks as a warmup

Around 30min usually

But i mean like pregame

Like showers, etc

[queen sail]

ah

you could try the

daily schedule

theres a recommended/outline of one in pins here

[glossy dove]

Ait I'll try it ty

[violet arch]

GG @glossy dove, you just advanced to level 3 !

[median vigil]

everytime i use my mouse for at least 10 mins i get pain and redness around this area

bottom left spot is where my hand rests on the mousepad when i hold my mouse palm style

[median vigil]

and for my pinky, i dont know where to put it so i just let it rest on the mousepad and it rubs and it hurts

idk if its my mouse (logitech g502) or my grip

[wild grove]

your mouse might be too big for you

when i had a mouse that was too wide it hurt my hand

on the right side

[median vigil]

I’m 18cm x 10cm

Does that fit my mouse

[wild grove]

think your hands a bit on the smaller side

[worthy cloud]

if you're getting pain and redness something's wrong

might be the mouse

[median vigil]

Yeah

[worthy cloud]

might be your grip

[median vigil]

Well that’s why I’m here

I don’t know what’s wrong

[worthy cloud]

seems like the pinky and back palm problem is more from the pad than the mouse?

[median vigil]

It’s a hard mousepad

Yeah I’m only getting pains from where my hand rubs on the mousepad

Could be my mousepad