4.1 Fractal Update

[obtuse jewel]

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[fickle hinge]

I’ll keep editing the message as we receive more bug reports.

For that purpose please do share more information here.

Friend-entity @obtuse bane could you also look into the compilation and share your findings, however many they may be.

[kind cobalt]

Possible visual bug: distant planets flickering when flying in a storm

[tawny umbra]

Rotate left and next part button are the same on console, don't think they can be rebound

I've only seen this visual bug once, so not sure if it counts, but my home planet renders night time stars during the day

[fickle hinge]

Thank you guys

[tawny umbra]

The whole base burying thing seems intentional, so I'll leave that out

[fickle hinge]

Alright.

[kind cobalt]

Do we put old bugs as well?

(no Im not talking about Waypoint UI changes, though Im super tempted to do so)

[candid merlin]

Moving items inside seems to dup them for me after the area respawns ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[candid merlin]

Feature or bug ? 🤨

[fickle hinge]

Also, I have to leave for a few hours. May I request you guys to ask members to share their buggy experiences here while I’m gone? Since only I can edit the compiled report it will be best if we have the bugs shared here so that I can compile them later when I can.

Humble request

[kind cobalt]

I call it fucked up terrain generation on islands with save beacons lol

[fickle hinge]

Hehe! Why not? A section Pre Fractal Bugs can be edited into.

[candid merlin]

The hold e to tag is kicking me out of vehicles/ships and or dropping a marker

[kind cobalt]

Sometimes the save beacon is located underwater

On the other side of this "fault"

That the right word? Fault as in drop of terrain

[fickle hinge]

Valley?

[kind cobalt]

Or cliff, whatever

[fickle hinge]

Cliff

Yes

[candid merlin]

Yeah I see those underwater often

[fickle hinge]

Fault is the underground plate tectonics boundary

[kind cobalt]

Ok but real talk about Fractal update

The game looks washed out as fuck

Yes, I have been religiously using Duds Sky Colours mod for some time

[fickle hinge]

Gamma settings were “unlocked” so to say.

Need to reduce that down

Current default is 50% gamma

[kind cobalt]

But you are not gonna convience me this is how the game is supposed to look like

[fickle hinge]

That’s way too bright

This is not how it’s supposed to look

[candid merlin]

Mine doesn’t look like that

[fickle hinge]

But it’s not a bug, rather an oversight

[kind cobalt]

My notebook does not support HDR, I have no HDR option in graphics settings

[fickle hinge]

Not HDR,

But there should be a gamma setting at the very bottom of Display & Graphics setting

[kind cobalt]

Yes I have that

[tawny umbra]

The first one looked like it was mentioned in the patch notes

They changed up the lighting a bit

[fickle hinge]

Reduce it to 10-15%

Even show this change in the trailer

But it’s not perfect

Not good, so to say

[kind cobalt]

Potential interaction / UI bug: changing gamma setting and applying the new settings is not recognized by the game, prompting me to apply the changes once more

[kind cobalt]

The only bug that I noticed in the trailer: the screen inside Utopia ship still says Golden Vector lol

Does this gamma even do anything in Space Anomaly?

Changing gamma setting, from left to right (or however Discord spits it out): 100%, 50%, 15%, 0%

Where is the fucking difference

[tawny umbra]

Can't see any

[obtuse jewel]

@fickle hinge FYI, bugs I know of so far:

1. Bugged controller binds, how they used to and should be (confirmed by Gleam):

LT = cycle thru parts
LB & RB = rotation
Now LB is bound to two functions, it's now also cycling through parts.

2. Crashes on PS4, PS5, Steam.

3. Xbox controller now not working on Steam? Someone reported it. I still have to test it.

4. Player bases near / on top of Portals completely buried since 4.1.

**Xbox Series X: **
5a. Something's wrong with the graphics. Super noticeable with NMSCord Hub's water. Looks worse than ever, like a basic wall paint brush with green paint was used to paint over the water. Super weird.
5b. Also, the Graphics Settings are now only showing the Motion Blur option(?) @tawdry kestrelcan probably provide more details on this bit.

[kind cobalt]

I know my stupid ass is half blind, that is why I like to crank up the colors to 11

But not to the point I can not see any difference between those

I can test #3 real quick

[tawny umbra]

@obtuse jewel that water visual bug on xbox, did it remove the white 'waves' on coastlines?

[fickle hinge]

Back

[kind cobalt]

I saw white "glimmers" near the shore

[fickle hinge]

I did forget about this, I have noticed this too.

[obtuse jewel]

I wish

[tawny umbra]

I noticed that bug on xbox one too

[fickle hinge]

I see no change 😦

[kind cobalt]

Yooo it's Red

I got fooled lol

[tawny umbra]

@fickle hinge visual bug that removes the texture for the surface of water

[fickle hinge]

Thank you red! I will add this to the list once I can sit down and compile everything properly. Need to drive soon.

[obtuse jewel]

the coastlines still look like crap. the water looks worse though. here's a screenshot. it's almost laughable

[fickle hinge]

Yup! Oh yup! I saw blue color as if it was from pingu stopmotion animation or something! Lmao!

[obtuse jewel]

glad you noticed it too. my sanity was being put into question because someone was like, well, water's always looked not great. i'm like, nah, nah, you don't get it. this is worse

[kind cobalt]

My Xbox One S controller is working just fine, I connected it via USB and started the game, I could use it right from the splash screen

[obtuse jewel]

ooh via usb. thank you for testing it! that's a relief. i wonder if connecting via bluetooth was an issue for the player who reported. i'll have to test it on my Deck since i connect BT.

[kind cobalt]

I can try wireless, gimme a minute

My controller is not being detected, the fuck

By the system

[fickle hinge]

Steam issue more than NMS?

[kind cobalt]

No, Windows does not see my controller

[fickle hinge]

Oh!?

That’s new

[kind cobalt]

Alright, wireless works as well

Had to pair the controller again as a Bluetooth input device, which is weird for Windows

But again, started Steam, could use it from the splash screen

[obtuse jewel]

yay! that's huge relief. hopefully it'll be fine on the deck

[small folio]

I'm having no issues with using an xbox controller on steam, I noticed that was mentioned so thought I'd say all ok with it in my game
next time I'm in I'll check the build bindings and see if my R2 function is now on LB

[obtuse jewel]

whew! ty also for confirming

[small folio]

I can't remember which version of the controller it is, it's a newer one

[obtuse jewel]

cool cool ty

[tidal pivot]

May not be a bug because of the update but Settlement NPC AI is very broke, may aswell add to the collection :3

[fickle hinge]

Red, what does point 4 mean exactly? Bases by players, or in game portals?

[obtuse jewel]

bases by players, sorry. if you have a base right by a Portal, you'll likely be screwed. base will be completely buried. like no way to get out except teleportaling out.

[fickle hinge]

Lolol

Okay

[tidal pivot]

I assume freighter teleporter graphic bug is known

[obtuse jewel]

updated my notes for clarity

[tidal pivot]

ah yup it's on the list

[fickle hinge]

I hab edited

Please check

[obtuse jewel]

you rock!

[fickle hinge]

Lol this happens a lot in normal mode too, have been happening for long.

Once we have a good compilation of bugs I’ll share them all as a massive dump to HG!

Muwahahaha

Politely, of course.

[fickle hinge]

And in these cases I thought it would be better to mention rather than trying workarounds. Generally players would want to use the controllers as they have been using.

Friend-entity @steel rapids could you also look through the compiled bug list to add something you have found?

First message, at the top.

[steel rapids]

The colour/texture function doesnt currently work when building outside of base property, so Save Beacons cannot be coloured when surveying

[fickle hinge]

Oh nice, I didn’t even notice that 😮

[steel rapids]

Dunno if ps4 specific, no1 else has mentioned it that ive seen

[fickle hinge]

Mentioned in Visual Bugs category

Was this in expedition save?

In case it was, there might be limitations

Limitation being, we need to be within base default build area (~300 units) for crafting and base building interactions.

[steel rapids]

It was a Normal save, had completed the Expedition and converted it a couple hrs before I stumbled on it.

[fickle hinge]

Okay that is a bug then

[steel rapids]

So it was an expedition save, just not at that time lol

[fickle hinge]

Lol! Gotcha.

[tidal pivot]

wait, so the expedition system is just a regular system in-game?

[steel rapids]

Yep, in Euclid - but no one on Expedition mode can see players/bases from other modes, and once you convert, you cannot see anything from Expedition mode.

[fickle hinge]

Yep!

[tidal pivot]

aaaah

but you could find a system "discovered by Utopia"

[steel rapids]

I'm a little surprised HG hasnt set Expeditions in later galaxies more often, it was an added bonus for newer players to be able to access those after converting.

[fickle hinge]

You can go back to your base on Utopia.

On that save.

[tidal pivot]

but like

[fickle hinge]

And if you have the glyphs.

[tidal pivot]

on a different save

zamn

thas kinda cool

[fickle hinge]

Glyph honey, glyph. Always works.

[fickle hinge]

Only 1 was set in a different galaxy, isn’t it?

[steel rapids]

Blighted was Umi-whatsis/Paholiang

[fickle hinge]

Oooo!

[steel rapids]

But yeah, I dont recall any others outside Euclid

[small folio]

Blighted redux was 98/99, that's how I got all the way out there Mythos

[fickle hinge]

Ahhhh! That’s why you were in 110 when we talked about the taxi.

I see! Interesting

Possible oversight by HG to stay in Euclid when it could’ve been on any other galaxy.

[steady pelican]

Harvesting plants (or planting new ones) leaves/places image of fully grown plant in place. Any harvestable plant, and placement.

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge gate visual glitch, trade freighter module being non collision + non interactable, hardcrash on expedition vulcano step

[summer pebble]

Game crashes to desktop the moment it detects controller input (keyboard and mouse works fine)

Playing on arch Linux through Proton, PS4 controller (tested with two third-party controllers as well, faced the same issue). Previous (pre-fractals) version of the game didn't have the issue

Controller can be plugged in and detected no problem, however when there's any sort of input (either analog or button) the game will freeze for half a second, then crash

[oak wing]

(It must have memory leak)

[fickle hinge]

Thank you for sharing this peculiar issue. I’ll add this as a rare issue because yours is the only one we’ve come across.

[fickle hinge]

Please elaborate a little on the non-collision objects

[fickle hinge]

Thank you for sharing this issue, I’ve made a mental note to add this in the list when I am able to.

[oak wing]

As in i phase through it on experimental

Trade station

Walk right trough it

[fickle hinge]

Oh, experimental?

[oak wing]

Y

[fickle hinge]

Hmm! Experimental is mainly for testing purposes. I haven’t heard or seen anyone else mention your particular issue. I’ll still add it as a note though.

[obtuse bane]

keyboard though but game works fine here running latest proton stable

if you're not already, tracking steam exp is probably your best choice now

[obtuse bane]

this is the 3rd report i see

trade terminal on freighter also non-interactable

[fickle hinge]

Ooh!

[tawdry kestrel]

Just a slight correction: LT was for cycling

RT places

[summer pebble]

yeah works fine for me with KB+M too, it's just when using controller that something goes wrong

[fickle hinge]

Okay

[obtuse bane]

reset your controller configs

[summer pebble]

Doesn't crash, but doesn't detect controller either oop
I'll stick with kb+m for now

[fickle hinge]

I’ve edited this.

[fickle hinge]

I have some confusion. The message says “leaves behind an image”, that does that mean?

The icon?

[obtuse bane]

no

[fickle hinge]

Ooooooo

[obtuse bane]

you loot it, but the unharvested model persists

[tawdry kestrel]

Sweet! Lol

I don't harvest to keep my aesthetic

[fickle hinge]

Me too

[fickle hinge]

Edited. 8.2

[fickle hinge]

This is in normal save, correct?

[obtuse bane]

correct

[fickle hinge]

Alrighty

[obtuse bane]

zendesk appears to be choking itself

ah here we go.

opened 3 reports in a row, last one took its sweet time to appear under my requests

[fickle hinge]

Point 2.2

I can’t imagine the sheer number of reports they may be receiving

[kind cobalt]

Where's the bug list?

The first post was edited

[fickle hinge]

The first post wasn’t edited.

I mean was*

List is at the top here

[oak wing]

@obtuse jewel uh mind pin the bug list?

[fickle hinge]

#no-mans-sky message

[fickle hinge]

How? What?

I’m confusion

Can only I see my edits?

[kind cobalt]

Oh ok it's in other thread lol

[tawdry kestrel]

Not in #no-mans-sky

[fickle hinge]

What’s amazing is how completely messed up the water texture is 🤣

Doesn’t have any bump map whatsoever

No waves lmao!

[oak wing]

Tbh idk how thread pinning work

[oak wing]

Either something it wrong with my game or anti aliasing broke

[fickle hinge]

Oh?

Show

[tawdry kestrel]

Well, the bug list is in #no-mans-sky, so I won't pin it there. If it gets placed here, I shall

[fickle hinge]

It’s linked here, basically a copy of the original list, friend-entity @oak wing

Can’t be pinned here, and there’s no point in pinning it in the NMS channel

It is the first post right above the post pinned in this thread

That can be an easy way to navigate

[tawdry kestrel]

Why can't it be pinned here lol

[oak wing]

shrug

[tawdry kestrel]

That was a semi sarcastic comment, threads support pins

I was trying to gently hint that someone (Mythos) should paste it here

[rain jacinth]

My short range teleporters are completely cursed. Teleporting to random short range teleporters and not the ones I assigned them to before the update. They still point to their assigned pairs though, they just don't work as expected. I'm destined to walk 🥹

[kind cobalt]

Gently you say

Imma gonna go grab a broomstick

[fickle hinge]

I paste it 🥹

I’m sowwy

So far these are my main bug findings in all save:

1) In the inventory menu:
1.1) Scrolling up/down scrolls both the Tech and Cargo inventory.

2) In freighter bugs:
2.1) Teleporting using the short range teleport device to travel between hanger and bridge doesn’t play the correct animation. The character’s silhouette stays on screen but is transparent and the room/level design of the destination can be seen through.
2.2) Galactic trade terminal module is reported to have no interactivity.
2.3) Report of no collision/clipping through freighter base parts such as Galactic Trade Terminal module have been observed.
2.4) The input slots of large refiner room visually appear to have shifted to extreme left, and can be pushed out of bounds with camera movements within the window.

3) Game crashes:
3.1) In both expedition and normal saves the game crashes randomly even when playing without internet connection.
3.2) A rare occasion of game crash while selecting through the build menu tab is reported.
3.3) Game crash during derelict freighter instance while boarding/exiting the ship is reported.

4) Long loading screen:
4.1) A rather long loading screen time has been reported a few times by players across different communities, in expedition save.

5) Visual Bugs:
5.1) Marking deposits/POI in the analysis visor, like a copper deposit, also places the navigation beacon down.
5.2) Missing water bump maps. This makes water surface look like a colored, translucent plane.
5.3) Bases near portals are buried underground in some cases, making interactions impractical.
5.4) Planetary bodies flicker when flying during storm.
5.5) The colour/texture function doesn’t work currently when building outside of base property, so Save Beacons cannot be coloured when surveying.
5.6) The item entity Helios (in the anomaly) is holding in the hand appears to be a pink/purple smudge instead of a holographic image.
5.7) Multiple reports related to LOD have surfaced where the objects aren’t rendered with proper texture and high tessellation even at close inspection.
5.8) Models used in inventory (especially backpack) is scaled higher than usual when entering Minotaur.
5.9) Warp-in freighter model appears in the warp tunnel, and the ship freezes post warp.
5.10) Multiple reports of character phasing through solid ground, floors, surfaces has been observed.

6) UI/UX Bugs:
6.1) Changing graphics doesn’t apply the new settings. Game asks to apply the changes once more.

7) Console specific bugs:
7.1) Bugged controller binds: How they used to and should be:

LT = cycle thru parts
LB & RB = rotation
Now LB is bound to two functions, it's now also cycling through parts.
7.2) Crashes on PS4, PS5, Xbox.~
7.3) Xbox controller doesn’t work on Steam in some cases.
7.4) Graphics Settings are now only showing the Motion Blur option.

8) Base part bugs:
8.1) In rare cases base parts are duplicated when changing position, leaving behind a functioning copy of the base part (such as teleporter).
8.2) Harvesting plants leave behind a fully grown physical copy that cannot be interacted with any further.
8.3) Some base decoration parts such as the wall light, Utopia expedition poster rotate along an imaginary fixed point while positioning on the wall by player, in build menu.

[fickle hinge]

[tawdry kestrel]

There we go, bug list acquired, achievement unlocked

[fickle hinge]

Oooooo

[obtuse bane]

keeping in mind that Game crashes on pc are mostly being tied to outdated gpu (integrated+dedicated) drivers, when launching/loading saves

[fickle hinge]

Yup

But the point is we receive only so many reports and help questions. Although it may look a lot, it’s not that much compared to the entire PC gaming community of NMS.

My GPU drivers are upgraded but the game still crashed because of comm balls at first, and then because it kept utilizing crazy amount of virtual memory. Although a simple PC restart fixed it, it was still a bad experience. This is why I have that at the very top. 😅

[obtuse bane]

okay, so those two weren't really thinking of game launch/load crashes?

[kind cobalt]

I have my drivers updated, I had 2 crashes when alt tabbing to Discord yesterday

And 1 crash today where I was just playing the expedition

I could start the game just fine. Interestingly right after update Steam had to download VC redist components

[fickle hinge]

3.1 is generalization of all crash reports

I dunno which two you meant though

[obtuse bane]

3.1 yes

the two being comm balls (more specific), and the other the random crashing

[fickle hinge]

Since it’s not a per case detailed report that I’m planning to submit I haven’t mentioned a lot of specifics.

My personal report was a long one, properly detailed and I did share images too 😄

[fickle hinge]

Aha! Comm balls crashed my game as it usually does.

After that I removed internet cable

But game still crashed within 5 minutes of loading

Event viewer showed NMS was taking a lot of virtual memory

I went through the standard procedure you suggest to others

Sfc command, clean boot

Driver checkup

Everything was fine

Restarted the PC

No crashes since

[obtuse bane]

Let's add to that list "crashing on derelict freighter after boarding/exiting ship"

[fickle hinge]

Oh! Okay.

Point 3.3

[obtuse bane]

at least 3 users reported it, all of them on pc, 2 on steam, 1 on gamepass

[fickle hinge]

Perfect

I am positive my game won’t crash anymore. There were some overlooked conditions to cause the crashes.

PC had been working for 4 days non-stop

There was power fluctuation

Overheating could’ve been a reason

[obtuse bane]

high uptimes tend to exhaust resources eventually - one thing that came to mind, did you check pagefile size?

[fickle hinge]

I don’t think I did. Hmm!

One sec.

[kind cobalt]

Possible visual bug: look at the hologram Helios is holding

[fickle hinge]

Is that the blurry smudge?

Pink in color?

[kind cobalt]

More purple to me

I think it's supposed to show a planet?

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge freighter eleveator warp from gangar make my character seethrough but with outline. instead of just rerendering/spawning

also context what i mean by no collision

[fickle hinge]

Lmao! Okay.

[fickle hinge]

This I have added

[fickle hinge]

Hmm! I don’t remember 😦

Thanks for boosting the server friend-entity CR0W

[oak wing]

cape jetpack clips through cape @fickle hinge

actually pisses me off

lol

[kind cobalt]

Possible build mode bug: wall light rotates when player moves it around

[fickle hinge]

This is new.

I have seen this happen with rugs and carpets

And some other base parts but not this particular light

[kind cobalt]

Same bug with expedition decal

[fickle hinge]

Oooooo’

[fickle hinge]

Point 8.3

[fickle hinge]

9.1

[fickle hinge]

5.6

[kind cobalt]

Im clipping through on Public build as well

[wheat nymph]

Fractl

[fickle hinge]

Dang lol

Shifted this bug to 2.3

[analog crater]

Was mining some plants on the first planet on expedition. Crashed.

[kind cobalt]

Possible UI bug: the input slots on large refiner room for freighter appear to be super shifted to the left side

Player can actually move them out of screen boundaries when moving the mouse / cursor

Also there appear to be 2 white vertical lines, one of each side of the screen?

Stellar extractors also have them

[fickle hinge]

I don’t see vertical lines in the image but adding these in visual bugs section

[fickle hinge]

Ooh! I didn’t even notice this

[analog crater]

I also have one in context of weird UI.

[fickle hinge]

Umm!

[fickle hinge]

2.4

[kind cobalt]

The shifted inputs applies only to the refiner room

Stellar extractors do not share this bug

Just to clarify

They share these white vertical lines on edges of screen

[fickle hinge]

Ohh

Ok

Fixed

[candid merlin]

freighter plants can be harvested but don't disappear properly

[kind cobalt]

Also I think we can officially change the name of the thread to Fractal Bug Reports

Since nobody really talks about what's new in Fractal update (aside from bugs)

[fickle hinge]

Added

[fickle hinge]

Yeah

That was meant to be the case

But I’m also compiling the loose list of what’s new in fractal

Will share it after a couple of days

[analog crater]

Is this intended lol.

[fickle hinge]

Nope

[analog crater]

Placed my cursor over the portable exocraft terminal thingy. Crashed.

[fickle hinge]

[analog crater]

I was at the surface of the water. I clicked to receive the rewards for getting pearls. I got dragged down to the sea floor.

[fickle hinge]

Hmm!

Have you tried unlocking/learning blueprints underwater?

[analog crater]

Not yet.

But... considering I can't put it in the air, I dunno '~'

[tawny umbra]

any new reports @fickle hinge?

[fickle hinge]

A lot many.

I’ve been editing as they come

It’s been pinned here too.

[fickle hinge]

I have had the falling issue when unlocking things under water from the utopia stations

[obtuse jewel]

@warm flare This is the thread btw. See this pin: <#1078205884695597056 message>

[warm flare]

Ive got a bug that whenever the question "Do you want to start an expedition" pops up, and i hold down "E" the game closes, not even a crash report

[obtuse jewel]

Wow, that's a weird one. Thanks for the heads-up! I hope you reported it to Hello Games also to raise awareness, unless you did already.

Check this one out, @fickle hinge

[obtuse bane]

@river jasper here, even

[kind cobalt]

Possible UI bug: backpack model scalling goes apeshit when player enters the minotaur exocraft

[oak wing]

ok HOLD UP

vr players can hold the projector shield AND shoot?

[oak wing]

ok thats a dumb bug

lol

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge note for experimental popped in head. Bug save bacon not being editable (dunno if others have same issue)

[tidal pivot]

been noticing a lot of LOD issues

a lot, most times I play

[obtuse jewel]

that looks wild

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[tawny umbra]

@fickle hinge borked animation for freighter battles, not really sure how to explain it

[tidal pivot]

record it maybe?

[fickle hinge]

This is added to the list

[fickle hinge]

Hmm! What differences do you see?

[fickle hinge]

So the game isn’t loading audio visual + graphical resources? On the surface level it looks like a major GPU issue.

@warm flare have you tried starting the expedition with multiplayer disabled?

[fickle hinge]

Adding this, I’ve experienced this too.

I’m planning to share the compiled bug reports to HG in a few hours. The extended character limit due to nitro is also coming to cap.

And the reports we’re getting now fall under the general categories

[tawny umbra]

freighter appears before the warp animation finishes, ship isn't moving when you enter the battle

[fickle hinge]

The 8 main categories covering all types of bug reports are:

1. Inventory menu bugs.
2. Freighter bugs.
3. Game crashes.
4. Loading screen bugs.
5. Visual bugs.
6. UI/UX bugs.
7. Console specific bugs.
8. Base part/building bugs.

[fickle hinge]

Appearance of freighter before warp completes (mainly in the warp tunnel right before the jump ends) was a thing pre Fractal too.

Ship being stuck is new

[fickle hinge]

Ouch

Added both

Friend entity FF and Gek!

[next knoll]

i've only ever fallen thru the floor twice

and it's after this update

[fickle hinge]

😦

That’s added

Sad still

[fickle hinge]

Alright, i'm going to share the report with HG now.

!hg

[spiral frigate]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[fickle hinge]

Submitted 🙂

Thank you all for sharing your experiences with us and allowing me to compile the list.

[candid merlin]

bug?

[next knoll]

no

assuming that is a tree

they just do that to ya

[next knoll]

mythos is multiple people confirmed

[candid merlin]

they're compiled too. Impressive

[fickle hinge]

Hmm?

[next knoll]

you said us

[fickle hinge]

Oh, lol.

I meant this is something I cannot take credit for

[next knoll]

he is attached to korvax convergence

i knew it

[fickle hinge]

I may have started it but it was the effort of the entire community

[next knoll]

oh ya i have one one second

[fickle hinge]

I alone would never be able to do this.

So everybody gets credited

[next knoll]

weird black bits on top of the portal blue stuff

[fickle hinge]

Ohh! That looks like dead pixels 😮

[candid merlin]

Behold, my quantum crops! Are they harvested? you cannot know until you try!

Spoiler: this whole feild is harvested

[next knoll]

Schrödinger's space weed

[fickle hinge]

Lol!

[next knoll]

negitive two

[candid merlin]

what are you counting?

has this been reported yet? the refineries show the job done color until you approach them now

[warm flare]

Oh it is dissabled lol

[fickle hinge]

Odd.

Have you reported this?

[warm flare]

Yup

[fickle hinge]

I did add similar issues to the crash report list

we now have 2x the reports 😉

[warm flare]

Damn

[fickle hinge]

I am sure there are many reports about these issues already

Some have been tackled and updated in the experimental branch

[candid merlin]

I doubt it's a bug so much as server load but alt-tabbing between nms and other apps has been crashing my session all night

[fickle hinge]

That is a crash report we've seen to be sumitted

[small folio]

Crashing after landing on a derelict freighter has been reported in here? Because it just happened to me now

[fickle hinge]

Yup

Point 3.3

Pinned list

[small folio]

I’m sadge tho and no new logs for peaceful Gek until it’s fixed 😢

[fickle hinge]

😦

No lore hunting until everything is fixed either.

[fickle hinge]

Found a bug:
Missing planets from ship radar.

[analog crater]

Was refining from suit refiner in expedition. Crashed.

[fickle hinge]

RIp

[analog crater]

Was eating cactus nectar to recover life support. Crashed.

These crashes are so weird. 😂

[fickle hinge]

These crashes remind of Professor Cynical.

"I was eating cactus nectar to recover life support when my game crashed, and that got me thinking..."

[kind cobalt]

Whoever watched ATLA knows what cactus juice does to people

So yeah, I dont blame the game for crashing

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge antialiasing being broken for me

Pixelated terrain corners etc

Still experimental

[fickle hinge]

Antialiasing has been reported at least 5 times by now, that I know of.

I did add it to my list, although it isn't updated here.

Also, I have shared bug list with HG.

[analog crater]

The 'light' doesn't turn off after getting the salvaged data.

[tawny umbra]

Thanks for doing this mythos, big help to HG and to us

[oak wing]

My apologiez

[tawny umbra]

Don't apologise

More reports is better

[analog crater]

Crashed as I was scanning the last, rare Fauna on the final planet AAAAAAAA

Game automatically changes my exocraft. I have Nomad set as main, constantly turns it to Colussus whenever I get back in.

[small folio]

ah, I keep getting switched to the AI Minotaur despite setting Pilgrim as my one

[fickle hinge]

Anytime. I’m only trying to help with whatever comes in mind

[fickle hinge]

No, no! Not at all. I did consider all of the known bugs and glitches while sharing the report. It’s just nitro not allowing me to compile the list any further here, almost reaching the 4000 characters limit.

[kind cobalt]

Possible UI bug, don't know if Fractal specific - adding items to filled personal refiner causes the percentage value to go over 100%

[oak wing]

sstill dunno why discord refuse to buffer videos when i hit play

[kind cobalt]

pepe cry hands

[fickle hinge]

[fickle hinge]

Post fractal. It did not happen in the past.

[oak wing]

1. what platform u on? 2. how exactly do u take those snippits?

[kind cobalt]

Im on PC Steam, I use GeForce Experience to record the game

The recording lands in the My PC / Videos folder or however it is called, it's an MP4 file, and I just drag and drop it here

[oak wing]

fair enough

[oak wing]

ok sliding discord and firefox onto windows graphics high gpu performance sorta fixed it

[fickle hinge]

Ooo

[kind cobalt]

proceeds to move the game into high gpu performance

still Waypoint UI

pepe cry hands

[fickle hinge]

[kind cobalt]

New experimental build dropped

Experimental Branch 24/02

Fixed a crash on boot for machines with integrated GPUs.
Fixed an issue that could cause the Expedition to get stuck in a downloading state.
Fixed a crash entering Abandoned Freighters.
Reenabled tessellation on PS5.
Fixed some stuttering performance issues.
Fixed an issue that caused some bases around portals to no longer be aligned with the ground.
Fixed an issue that caused some metadata used by mods to be stripped.
Fixed an issue that allowed sensitivity to be set to zero.
Reenable recolouring of base objects not associated with a base.

I think that lets us cross some issues out of our list

[analog crater]

Was building a new base after finishing expedition. Crashed.

[tawny umbra]

fourth to last looks good

[analog crater]

Man after I finish this base I'm taking a break until it gets some fixes :/

[obtuse jewel]

Sweeeet! @fickle hinge did you see these notes? hopefully they release this patch to the public branch soon

[oak wing]

i hope so, i wanna go back to stable withoutn corrupting saves :<

[kind cobalt]

Lol what I just witnessed

I will check if that's a bug or unforseen modsequence

[fickle hinge]

Yeppp! Point 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 were compiled in our bug report 🥹🥹🥹

Really hope they make it to public

I think they will refine the bugs more before pushing it to public

[oak wing]

i wanna go back to stable so bad 😦

[tawdry kestrel]

You can

[fickle hinge]

You definitely can.

[kind cobalt]

Possible animation / UX / ?? bug - the animation for using the freighter teleporter thingy between hangar and bridge is broken. I dont even know how to put it in words properly, so...

The same effect is visible when you teleport to your freighter and (if you're lucky) see the NPCs spawning in the base

[fickle hinge]

Point 2.1

😉

[kind cobalt]

Oh sorry didnt notice that

I thought it was about teleporting to frigates

[fickle hinge]

Most of the major bugs and glitches have been documented and submitted, thanks to everyone 😁

[kind cobalt]

Ok, at least we have a video of a handsome fella demonstrating the issue

[fickle hinge]

Hahahaha, true

[kind cobalt]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

HOW IN THE HELL

[fickle hinge]

Umm wot?

Also what was that sound?

[kind cobalt]

What sound?

Could be the movie Im watching on 2nd monitor

[fickle hinge]

Anyway but I don’t understand the bug.

[kind cobalt]

I stopped time in photo mode for me

While in Space Anomaly

With other players

[fickle hinge]

But it didn’t look like time was stopped for you. Nexus bot was moving, other person’s ship flew out of the nexus.

[kind cobalt]

Then why I was stuck in the air in photo mode, instead of falling down like a rock?

[fickle hinge]

When in flight if we do enter photo-mode, we are stuck in time, regardless of MP state.

That has happened to me a lot, pre fractal. I didn’t think it was a bug.

I still don’t think it is

[kind cobalt]

Im willing to bet an arm that is not how it worked

@obtuse bane watch the video I posted above, is that normal?

[obtuse bane]

yeah - this is how it behaved - had a bunch of fun with others taking group screenshots, using jetpack before entering photo mode gets you stuck like that 😄

[kind cobalt]

Fuck me

But when you pulse in ship, the opposite happens

Photo mode frame stays in place, player in ship flies away

[fickle hinge]

Lol!

I wanna see that happen 🤣

[fickle hinge]

Lmao

Oh gosh

Hahahaha

That’s dangerous 🤣

[obtuse jewel]

first off, how many question marks did you type there? secondly, soooo, photo mode left you static like if you had MP off, while everything else kept moving? is it still doing that?

[kind cobalt]

1. Not enough to fully express what I feel

2. Yes, it left me stuck in the air, and its still doing that on another save

Just returned to Anomaly after the weekend mission

[fickle hinge]

MP on!

That’s how photo mode for player character behaves

[obtuse jewel]

das cray cray. but it's kinda cool for screenshots with MP on 😁

[obtuse jewel]

yeah, i'm aware. but i was asking if he was static like when mp is off

[fickle hinge]

Ohhhh! Yes

I see it now 😅

I mean, I see what you asked.

[obtuse jewel]

it's gotta be a new feature, right?

[fickle hinge]

No it’s not. It’s an old feature

[obtuse jewel]

it's kind of annoying i can't do static photo mode with friends now FriendlyFire's got a mixed photo mode feature

pay to win i tell ya

[fickle hinge]

Static photo mode with friends?

One sec

[obtuse jewel]

das a pretty shot

who's in the shot?

[fickle hinge]

That is in #the-louvre too

[fickle hinge]

Some random person I was helping way back when I joined the server.

[obtuse jewel]

[obtuse jewel]

aww that's a nice memory then

yo, did everyone get their Twitchies?

[fickle hinge]

Yes!

[fickle hinge]

Waiting for day 4

I want that gun.

[kind cobalt]

So who's gonna tell Red we're not in the main channel?

[obtuse jewel]

don't forget to get your Twitchies! Gunter doesn't want you to forget

[obtuse jewel]

OMG

[kind cobalt]

That I posted here cause I thought that's a bug from Fractal

[obtuse jewel]

[fickle hinge]

LMAO!

[kind cobalt]

Lmao

[obtuse jewel]

Ban Red

[kind cobalt]

Bamboozled

[obtuse jewel]

[fickle hinge]

I was holding back. Come on.

Hahahahaha

Nu! Dun ban red

[tidal pivot]

Same here

Directly same set of exocraft, seems to be for everyone then

[obtuse jewel]

@fickle hinge had you seen this bug btw? trying to see if it's in our bug compilation list?

[kind cobalt]

I have noticed that each time I teleport to my main base

I get the "primary exocraft switched" message

But I did not investigate

[obtuse jewel]

oh interesting, so you even get a message about it?

[fickle hinge]

I haven’t seen it personally but I did report it.

Haven’t added it to the list yet.

I think my character limit must be reaching full.

[obtuse jewel]

that's so interesting. i've never even seen that. is it specific to expeditions then? huh. @tawdry kestrel have you ever seen this phenomenon?

[kind cobalt]

No, that is my main Normal mode save

[obtuse jewel]

ooh good point. should we try dividing it up into multiple messages for the different categories? we can make multiple pins too. or we can do a text file attachment if you'd prefer. not sure what'd be easiest. i guess text file attachment can be a pain for ppl on mobile

[fickle hinge]

We can do this…

Previous bug report list: #1078205884695597056 message

Other bugs:

1. Game switches primary exocraft to colossus whenever teleporting to base.
2. Plants planted in freighter appear to be oversized.
3. Possible UI bug: ship model in inventory screen is not up to scale.
4. AI pathing bug: NPC on space station have been reported to stand in one place, on top of each other, in circles, or inside each other.
5. Entering/exiting exocraft with first person view causes game to crash, and/of graphical glitches.
6. Galaxy map filter stays persistent visually after warping, even if the warp has reset the “text value” to default (no lifeform) filter.

And now I can edit this as the bugs come across into light

[obtuse jewel]

ooh wow so it's just a game-wide bug. weeeeeird. like why on earth does it switch. is that just for inventory purposes. i seriously always assumed you'd fetch each type of exocraft independently. i didn't realize there's a "main" one. and what's even weirder is how this bug's described too:

I have Nomad set as main, constantly turns it to Colussus whenever I get back in.
<#1078205884695597056 message>
like whaaa? so it's a Nomad when it's fetched, then you get in it and it turns into a Colossus? i'm so confused

[obtuse jewel]

that works, Mythos. i can pin it and make sure you link to it from the other bugs list maybe?

[fickle hinge]

You know how there’s a ship and an exocraft, and multitool that is “active”? Meaning the one we are using currently?

The game is switching the active state of exocraft to colossus when we teleport etc.

[fickle hinge]

Oh yes, one sec.

[fickle hinge]

How does this look?

#1078205884695597056 message

[obtuse jewel]

looks good although there's some wonky extra spacing? can you also link from the other list to this one? even tho both will be pinned ofc

this is the extra spacing i'm talking about

[fickle hinge]

The link to the other report is this link shared in the message. And I’ve deleted the extra space

Thank you for rearranging the pins, and keeping a keen eye here, Red

[obtuse jewel]

thank YOU and others involved for helping track all these bugs updated the top pin to link to both bug compilations

[fickle hinge]

I do wish I could make an announcement or something

Lol! Maybe asking too much.

Sorry 😦

[obtuse jewel]

lol an announcement about the bug compilation? we can keep reminding folks in the main channel when issues get reported. maybe i can add a repeat in main not sure

[fickle hinge]

Yeah, that will be too much 😅

I’m keeping it on repeat in the main channel anyway, so those who do see it may be aware.

And I’m checking up on every bug report shared here, in main, and in help

No biggie

[obtuse jewel]

ty Mythos. i also try to redirect folks from #nms-expedition when they report issues. just in case they're seeing anything new

[fickle hinge]

Yusss! There too \o/

[tawdry kestrel]

Nope, and I have been doing the uploads so teleporting quite a bit

[oak wing]

Nvidia geforce dont ignore third party audio sadly, hence u used obs plugin for a time

[glass stone]

not sure if it's a bug, but my overall game feels like i set my laptop's display/background light to 10%. I can compensate by turning up gamma to 100% but it feels like it's still only a fraction of the pre-fractal brightness/gamma.

[obtuse jewel]

Very interesting. That's on Steam PC? Check the pins here to see if that's listed. And also the Experimental patch notes I'll link below to see if anything like that is mentioned

[obtuse jewel]

Pin 1 with bug compilation

!Experimental

[spiral frigate]

Experimental 100664 4.1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/3768987250119369164/ (latest known)
🗂️ History: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198825835891/posthistory
Run !NmsVersions in #bot-spam for more info.

[glass stone]

i'm a bit hesitant to report it as bug yet because i also haven't gone through all of the settings yet

but there's a definite pre/post fractal difference in lighting

in general it's my opinion that NMS is pretty dark, but with the HDR update i'm not sure if that should improve or make things worse for me

[obtuse jewel]

Even on Xbox Series X I noticed a weird graphics issue. So I wouldn't be surprised if what you're seeing is a bug. Especially if you didn't change settings.

[obtuse jewel]

Hmm def check #nms-questions in case anyone there can offer some recommendations with settings. But like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't experiencing an oddity with the update which may be worth reporting if you can't figure out a setting that addresses the problem

[glass stone]

yeah, tomorrow i'll play around with the settings a bit and see if i can in any way reproduce the previous looks, and otherwise it goes in the report

and what i definitely feel is that i have more framedrops

i already play on lowest settings (because 🥔 laptop) and i definitely feel the performance got worse

and more stutters

[obtuse jewel]

That sucks. Def check #nms-questions, maybe there's a graphics driver update that can help? I really hope HG is able to fix all the issues caused by 4.1 soon. Sucks it's the weekend already though. We'll all likely have to wait till next week.

[glass stone]

I already completed the expedition with only 2 random crashes, it's definitely still playable imo

and we know HG will pull alongside and get it fixed, so no worries there

I guess we got a bit spoiled with outlaws and endurance, i expected more content this update

[obtuse jewel]

Oh you're lucky!

[glass stone]

it wasn't my most efficient playthrough of an expedition yet, but i started this afternoon and took about 3-5 hours including idling and dinner

I want a startup option to select to play expeditions in normal, survival or permadeath :)

[tawny umbra]

That's normal, been like that for ages

Tested it with bk and gleam a while ago

Fun mechanic for games

[obtuse jewel]

Oh really? I don't remember having my character frozen in time while in group. Is this something that only happens in the Space Anomaly then? @tawdry kestrel have you experienced this before? <#1078205884695597056 message>

[obtuse jewel]

Wait, so everyone experiences all the time while in group? You jump and you stay frozen? I'm so confused

[tawdry kestrel]

You jetpack and then open photo mode

[small folio]

you know, it looks like you're talking to yourself 🤣 funny worms

[tidal pivot]

Only on your side, I thought?

on other player's side you fall

i tested too

very disappointing

but somehow y'all are doing it?

maybe there's a difference between being in a party and being in multiplayer

[next knoll]

i report more of these on top of a trade terminal

[kind cobalt]

Possible UI bug: ship model in inventory screen is not up to scale, I literally just booted up my Leviathan Expedition save to get the weekly mission done

[fickle hinge]

Point 3 of other bugs list pinned after the main list.

[tawny umbra]

If someone pushes you while in that state, you start moving

Me and gleam sent bk into space lol

[fickle hinge]

Cruel

Lmao

[tawdry kestrel]

Requested

[rough laurel]

didn't see this one on the list, already reported to HG, wondering if anyone's encountering it here: putting items in a refiner and using a teleporter to warp to another system and then returning will delete those items (both inputs and outputs). Doesn't matter what tier of refiner, or whether the refiner is active or not. Warping within the same system doesn't seem to have an affect.

[rich nexus]

That's an old bug, refiners don't keep their state when you go through a reload

[rough laurel]

oh ok

[oak wing]

Anyone need me checking something on experimental?

[small folio]

is the plant visual bug fixed, the one where you harvest and it keeps it full grown state? not a major bug as it doesn't stop you harvesting and the plant regrows properly so you can harvest again when it's regrown

[oak wing]

Uh i wasnt having that issue on experimental since update

So probably?

I havent encountered at least

[kind cobalt]

Experimental Branch 25/02

Fixed a bug that caused farmable plants to show incorrectly.
Fixed a crash when flying in atmosphere.

[fickle hinge]

Yayyyyy

[candid merlin]

woohoo!

have they fixed the freighter terminal trying to eat you yet?

this was a weird bug

[obtuse bane]

@snow rampart here

[fickle hinge]

Friend-entity @obtuse bane we need to update save state on survival to allow it to join to normal, post fractal. Game thinks it’s expedition save.

So log to survival, reload.

[kind cobalt]

!experimental

[spiral frigate]

Experimental 100732 4.1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/3768987250119369164/ (latest known)
🗂️ History: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198825835891/posthistory
Run !NmsVersions in #bot-spam for more info.

[kind cobalt]

Also I just realized the speeder is the image for this update

Kinda sucks that this is the biggest piece of new content added now

[fickle hinge]

@obtuse jewel and @tawdry kestrel we found a major flaw in the twitch drop landing page that is extremely misleading.
It mentions something that is not in game mechanics. In game we need to complete Awakenings and start Alone amidst the stars to be contacted by Priest Entity Nada before Space Anomaly is available for summon. On the twitch landing page it is mentioned that the Space Anomaly is available after we construct the first base.

This can lead to potential confusion between new users who may read the description on how to setup twitch with NMS account to claim the drops and unlock them in game.

I thought it would be something to consider making a mental note on.

[wary pine]

https://twitter.com/timmedia/status/1629581744071426048?s=19

I had an interesting bug in the Expedition

[fickle hinge]

Oh dear!

[broken kelp]

most controllable hauler ship flight

[south fable]

Not sure if it's been reported already or not; visual bug, on PC. I am in space station inhabited by Gek. Many Gek are standing in the exact same place, layering one over top of the other, creating weird clip-through and sometimes funny situations. Also had two identical looking Gek walking very close to each other with different names.

[fickle hinge]

Nope. Not reported by me yet. Thank you for sharing the bug here :3

[obtuse jewel]

✅ Update: Issue fixed. See <#1078205884695597056 message>

Switch related report by AgentX#3139 in #nms-questions

Switch has been having lots of graphics issues since Fractal. My game crashed and now whenever I try to load that save, it crashes when the world tries to render. Looks like I've lost all of my play time. Only 61 hours, but other than exp9, that's every hour I've played. Submitted ticket. Hopefully, there's a Switch patch that lets my game start up again.
<#nms-questions message>

Not sure how this would be covered with our bug compilation @fickle hinge, but figured I'd share here just in case.

[potent marten]

I have an issue where autopilot doesn't work when I use my game pad. Usually it's holding LT.

I alao have issues with harvesting crops (star bulb, cactus flesh, nip nip etc.) They don't become small after being harvested and last time I couldn't interact with my freighter trade terminal.

[kind cobalt]

2 last issues should be fixed with the next patch

[potent marten]

Are they common issues?

[halcyon zephyr]

I saw someone mention this tip on Reddit and it completely worked. My game was crashing after 5 seconds and turning off internet fixed it. I put my Switch into airplane mode and my game loaded fine and I flew to Anomaly and did quick save. Then I put my Switch back on dock with WiFi enabled and still working. Looks like it was a network issue and not rendering/shader problem for me.

[fickle hinge]

This seems to be resolved to me 😅

[obtuse jewel]

Wait, what do you mean resolved? Is it listed in the Experimental patch notes?

[fickle hinge]

No, the user got it fixed themself.

[fickle hinge]

I meant this, @obtuse jewel

[obtuse jewel]

Oooh! I missed it. Oops Ty for clarifying.

[fickle hinge]

[fickle hinge]

Possible UI bug: #nms-questions message

LMFAO! 🤣

Issue caused by mod. Hence disregarded

[oak wing]

Uh i have another bug @fickle hinge me and @jade eagle tried nexus missions as mitey exited rendering of mission their game crashed

Liiiiike 10 times

[fickle hinge]

Hmm!

Apparently my game crashed due to same resource issue

[oak wing]

The game must have menory leak :d

[fickle hinge]

I think.

I’ve been at it since fractal update

[halcyon zephyr]

Try going offline. That fixed all of my crashes that I thought was due to rendering.

[oak wing]

im not crashing, mitey is :d

[potent marten]

I updated to the latest experimental version and the crops and the freighter trade terminal have been fixed 👍

[fickle hinge]

Thank you for another confirmation friend entity.

[halcyon zephyr]

Should I submit a bug ticket if I figured out a workaround to a previously submitted bug? Or possible discovered a reason (network) for the crashes?

[potent marten]

✌️

[fickle hinge]

Could be helpful if the report is submitted mentioning the workaround

So yep

[halcyon zephyr]

It sounds like it might have already been fixed by reviewing the experimental patch notes. I think this might be the fix:
Fixed a sync buffer crash. Sounds like when connecting to discovery servers and syncing the data, it crashes - which was my exact problem.

[fickle hinge]

Ooh!

This might be it

Yeah

[potent marten]

Hey is it true that duping has been fixed?

So you can no longer dupe items?

[fickle hinge]

Nope

Dihydrogen jelly exploit has been fixed

No more free Dihydrogen from jelly

[potent marten]

You mean where you can refine it?

[fickle hinge]

Yep

[potent marten]

But you can also refine dehydrogen into jelly

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge terrain spawn on top of ur ship u get catapulted under terrain missed screenshot

[fickle hinge]

The exploit was refining jelly gave 10 extra Dihydrogen than what was needed to create jelly.

So technically you only needed 40 Dihydrogen for an unlimited supply.

Make jelly with 40 > refine jelly to get 50

[potent marten]

I didn't even know that exploit existed

They really want people to truly play the game by grinding, huh?

[fickle hinge]

Yepppp

Which is how it should happen hehehe

[fickle hinge]

Lmao!

[oak wing]

great MY BASE IS AT A SENTINEL DEPO @fickle hinge

[fickle hinge]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Atlas is messing with your game.

[oak wing]

my site is literally not even 5 feet @fickle hinge

[fickle hinge]

Same as mine.

Literally next to the pillar

I had quickly shut down the sentinels

😅

[oak wing]

im kinda terrified of the pillar step

is te other steps sorta easier?

[steady pelican]

@fickle hinge Nutrient processor (at least on freighter) does not make available for placement in [left] product slots the ingredients stored inside nutrient inventory. (it will access starship, which I don't recall if this was a thing or not before) - normal - yet i can move items TO nutrient processor storage jsut fine.

[kind cobalt]

I have done the whole expedition and I had no need to deactivate Sentinels via pillar

[fickle hinge]

Expedition, experimental, or normal public?

[kind cobalt]

I'm honestly shocked so many folks have problems with Sentinels

[fickle hinge]

I had no issues, I just deactivated them because kaboom.

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge nother bug. Qs prompt me to pay the thousand or so nanites for speeder. Which one of my saves didnt have, purchase still goes through despite invalid funds

[fickle hinge]

I think it was normal functionality but I’ll recheck

[fickle hinge]

Umm! Yep this is known. I don’t know if this is a bug or an oversight

[rough laurel]

damn. crash ate my anomaly detector

landed on the derelict, took one step outside my ship, instant freeze, had to force close after 2min no response

are new content updates usually this buggy?

haven't gotten far enough in the game to reach any of the new stuff, just running into a bunch of bugs.

[rough laurel]

and now I'm falling through the ground

[fickle hinge]

Not necessarily, no.

This one has a lot of bugs

Derelict freighter crash being one of them.

[rough laurel]

and now my base is 80% deleted

these bugs are making me lose my mind

do I need to make hourly backups?

[fickle hinge]

A request to all Steam users
*** ‼️ Verify the integrity of your game files ***

To do this:

• Go to steam Library.
• Right click on No Man's Sky.
• Select "Properties"
• In the new window: navigate to Local Files on the left hand panel.
• In the Local Files tab: Click on "Verify integrity of game files" button.
• Let it verify.
• Repeat the process at least twice

❗ I have done this twice just now, and the game has installed 3 missing files. Please consider going the extra mile and completing the steps.

It may be a possibility that the 4.1 update did not install every file.

[kind cobalt]

That doesn't seem to be the case for me. 1st picture shows Steam not being able to detect one file, it was the DISABLEMODS.TXT file. The 2nd picture shows "all files were successully verified" with no changes done.

[tawny umbra]

I think I can do something similar on xbox, but would reinstalling have the same affect?

[oak wing]

I think?

I dunno if console have verify files

Button

[tawny umbra]

I think I saw an option somewhere

I'll try it anyway, my game seems to still be missing something after reinstalling

[fickle hinge]

Reinstalling might have the same effect.

[fickle hinge]

Oddly enough the total number of files I have are 467

[kind cobalt]

You on public or experimental? Im on public

[fickle hinge]

Public.

One sec.

Friend-entity @kind cobalt

[kind cobalt]

[fickle hinge]

🤷‍♂️

same size though

I don't know what's going on.

[kind cobalt]

We can try one thing

[fickle hinge]

Sure, please share

[oak wing]

@fickle hinge never said game was flawless

[fickle hinge]

Who never said game was flawless? what?

I am confusion.

[oak wing]

I never said

Xd

[fickle hinge]

Who said you said?

LOL!

[oak wing]

Wonder how file update broke

[fickle hinge]

I do too.

[oak wing]

Retorical statement lol

[fickle hinge]

Let's see what friend entity FF comes up with.

[kind cobalt]

Ok I got nothing

[fickle hinge]

😦

[kind cobalt]

I thought of using Command Line functions like tree or dir to list all files in the install directory

But that won't give the 400+

[fickle hinge]

Hmm!

Odd, why do I have more files than you though?

I don't feel good about this.

🙃

[kind cobalt]

Ah fuck it

Go to the install directory by clicking the Browse button in Local Files window

Left click on Windows Explorer address bar, type cmd, hit Enter

In the Command line:

1. make sure you have the path set to NMS install directory, eg. in my case:

D:\Steam\steamapps\common\No Man's Sky>

2. type the following command:

dir /s > list.txt

This will list all files and folders in it and save it in the text file

Send the file here so I can compare the two

This is how the CMD should look like (of course minus the abomination that is Polish language)

@fickle hinge

[fickle hinge]

@kind cobalt

[kind cobalt]

D:\Steam\steamapps\common\No Man's Sky\Binaries
NMS.ini

I dont have it

[fickle hinge]

Odd

😮

That's from ReShade I believe

[kind cobalt]

You should be able to open it in text editor

[fickle hinge]

It's not a game file

PreprocessorDefinitions= Techniques=[e-mail],[e-mail]

that's a ReShade thing

[kind cobalt]

Yeah looks like it

And you got 7 more files in MODS than I do

Left side mine, right side yours

139 mine + 1 NMS.ini + 7 from MODS = 147 on yours

[fickle hinge]

Why would steam try to validate these files?

[kind cobalt]

Still nowhere close to 460+

No it doesn't

[fickle hinge]

Hmm!

Exactly

[kind cobalt]

Ok that's all I can do for now

Gonna get ready for work trip

https://steamdb.info/depot/275851/

109 files listed on SteamDB

Wondering if unpacked files from PAK archives would count

But I don't know if Steam can see inside PAKs

[fickle hinge]

Steam wouldn't

[oak wing]

Checking when i get home

I dunno my file amount

[halcyon zephyr]

4.1.1 update for Switch is now available for download

[fickle hinge]

Ooh!

Nice

Switch players will have to help us with collective knowledge of what has been fixed on public 😄

[kind cobalt]

Experimental Branch 28/02

Stability fixes.

God damnit Greg

That's not how you comment on a commit

Fucking Greg

[fickle hinge]

lol

[obtuse jewel]

don't you want some stability gosh darnit? can never win -Devs

[obtuse jewel]

re: this, their update now shows the same build number the rest of platforms have had since 4.1 release. so we're unclear on what their update from today includes.

!NmsVersions

[spiral frigate]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Latest Release:** 4.1

<:gdiv:887616988946497556>

Known Builds

• Exp: 100831 4.1
• Public: 100408 4.1
• GOG: 100408 4.1
• PS5: 100408 4.1
• PS4: 100408 4.1
• GP: 100330 4.1
• Switch: 100408 4.1

<:gdiv:887616988946497556>

Steam Branches
<t:1677067584:f>
Public: 10603080
<t:1677603718:f>
Experimental: 10656870
<t:1677603372:f>
Internal: 10656870

⠀

For NMS updates, see HG's Release Log & follow #nms-announcements. For notifications, get pingable role in #roles.

#nms-news-ticker shows updates as they roll out for each platform.

Experimental Patch Notes: Latest » | All »

PC update issues? Microsoft store help »

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, Singular Gleam#4977, RedHotTrouble#3707

[fickle hinge]

Yeah!

But AgentX said it was 4.1.1

Which didn’t make sense

@obtuse jewel

#1078205884695597056 message

[obtuse jewel]

Yeah, but still no official patch notes from HG telling us what it is. So we'll stick to not having extra decimals for consistency in our NMSVersions output

[fickle hinge]

Yeah 😅

[halcyon zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471868642204712971/1080198841275514970/2023022818401400-57B4628D2267231D57E0FC1078C0596D2.jpg

[tawdry kestrel]

We don't use those extra spaces, cause every platform is something like 4.1.938373736.03030

Once it rolls 4.2 and past, we will use that

[obtuse jewel]

We also always wait for official Hello Games patch notes, which typically include whole numbers. And Switch tends to be atypical with their own version of the game.

[oak wing]

also related @fickle hinge @kind cobalt 🙃

why do i have that many more than u guys

i dont even mod

LOL

[oak wing]

do u have these in build id numbers? @obtuse jewel

cuz mine is 10603080

[obtuse jewel]

the numbers in NmsVersions are what shows in the bottom right corner of your game's title screen. we only go by those because every platform has all kinds of crazy numbers and we'd go nuts trying to fetch those as well

[oak wing]

allright

[fickle hinge]

Hmm! Do you have mods installed?

[oak wing]

no mods no anything

at worst i think i tried install gshade/reshade but said install i removed @fickle hinge

[fickle hinge]

That’s really odd.

[oak wing]

[fickle hinge]

Why do you have more files than me, and why do I have more files than FF?

🤣

[oak wing]

i dont bloody know

system/os specific files?

[fickle hinge]

On top of that, why are all three of our games 12.59 gb?

how even?

[oak wing]

wait what tf i didnt even notce ROFL

[fickle hinge]

Hahahahaha!

I don’t understand steam

🤣

[oak wing]

prob only counts base files not raw files in size

hold on

??? @fickle hinge

steam u drunk

[fickle hinge]

Lolol

[oak wing]

is steam validating ALL steamfolders?

[fickle hinge]

LoooooooL

Probably, dunno

No idea.

[candid merlin]

where are the patch notes?

did they fix the plant issues on freighters?

[oak wing]

freighter specific issue or?

!experimental

[spiral frigate]

Experimental 100831 4.1
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/3768987250119369164/ (latest known)
🗂️ History: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198825835891/posthistory
Run !NmsVersions in #bot-spam for more info.

[candid merlin]

oh neat I didn't know gunter could do that

thanks

so how far behind the experimental is the stable?

My freighter plants have stopped growing. Has this bug already been reported?

[candid merlin]

freighter specific

afaik

[oak wing]

its a bunch of panches tbh

[candid merlin]

ah so a lot lol

I saw where they fixed the plant harvesting issue in experimental. mine aren't growing at all now, so maybe that update hasn't been pushed to stable yet?

[oak wing]

not on stable yet or #nms-news-ticker would spam it

[halcyon zephyr]

Strange that there's no notes for Switch patch 4.1.1, but 4.12 for other platforms notes are available before patch is available. Also, Switch isn't listed as a platform for 4.12, so does that mean Switch's 4.1 .1 patch was same as 4.12 or will Switch get a second patch later?

[tawdry kestrel]

Probably the same, but they have made a separate Switch announcement before so that may still come out

[bright lion]

PS4 Controller on Steam - Loses control after a time playing also happens with a very old Xbox Controller (Might not be Xbox Controllers fault)... Defaults to Mouse and Keyboard control.

[obtuse jewel]

@fickle hinge, @tawdry kestrel, @obtuse bane check out this latest report for Steam PC with latest update

[obtuse bane]

how much time would you say it would be needed to reproduce? any particular situation involved that you might have noticed a pattern on?

[bright lion]

Not really I would say about 5-10 minutes or so flying around to find the Sentinel PIllar... I can't be any more exact than that I'm afraid

It certainly wasn't long

[obtuse bane]

expedition game mode?

[bright lion]

Expedition yes...

[obtuse bane]

gotcha, thanks for the heads up; not usually a controller player but i'll try it later and see if i can repro - if it's a controller driver issue or a game issue

[bright lion]

It does work when you use the Control Panel for setting up USB joysticks - I have a feeling it's the game not the windows... Windows 10/Steam here I forgot to mention.

[obtuse bane]

i wonder if resetting controller config on steam would help

[bright lion]

Where do I do that?? @obtuse bane

[obtuse bane]

steam > settings > controller >

gen contrl settings i think

[bright lion]

Is that in game peoperties?

Never mind found it - Wondering if the Controller Shutdown Time has anything to do with it - Not that it did anything before the latest update...

[fickle hinge]

This is actually new to me. First question I could think of as I read it was “after how long of using the controller”?

And I just read about 5 to 10 minutes of use, correct?

Follow up question is, are you connected via Bluetooth, or USB?

[bright lion]

Yes - Can't be any more accurate than that - USB to Hub normally - Tried in both Hub and PC onboard USB 3 - still not working.
I do think it might work now with the Controller Shutdown Timer turned off....

[fickle hinge]

That, and is there any possibility that you may be comfortable with using the controller as normal instead of “Nintendo style”?

Although controller shutdown timer indicates battery preserving methodology installed at a software level, similar to switching PC into sleep mode.

I doubt this will kick in when the controller is active, it should only work when the controller is left idle.

[bright lion]

Ah just a thought... 🙂

[fickle hinge]

Nothing wrong in knocking off every variable. Please do test the performance with controller shutdown time turned off, and by deselecting the controller to act like a Nintendo controller.

It could be something wrong at the controller’s software/driver level instead of something wrong with the game. Or it could be the other way around.

[bright lion]

Current settings - Will need to reboot...

[fickle hinge]

A few initial tests will put us at a better position, knowing that friend-entity bk is also going to test it.

[bright lion]

🙂

[fickle hinge]

Looks good to me, please perform the reboot.

and sorry for the use of this odd language, at a subconscious level my IT support kicks in whenever handling such issues. 😅

[bright lion]

🙂 No worries!

rebooting

[fickle hinge]

Awesome, thanks 🙂

[bright lion]

@fickle hinge Still lost control after about 9m49s having timed it from when the game save loaded...

[obtuse bane]

@bright lion are you on steam client beta? or regular channel?

[bright lion]

Regular afaik

[kind cobalt]

I can't get a video because I play on the Deck now

But @fickle hinge issue 2.1 with animation

The same stuff happens in settlements

Where you have to resolve a citizen dispute

And you get both NPCs teleporting into your screen

It's exactly the same effect

HG prolly reused that animation

[obtuse jewel]

I am very sorry to report that water's not been fixed on Xbox / GamePass with this update cc @tawdry kestrel

Oooh I should check my Poral base burried by 4.1

[kind cobalt]

Also

Can somebody open a trading window that has the buy and sell buttons in too center of the screen

I think the white outline on them is being cut off on them

[serene viper]

Water as in.. missing SSRs?

[kind cobalt]

Can you see the outline not being uniform all around?

[kind cobalt]

Also also

[obtuse jewel]

Yeah, I guess that's a much more technical description than mine. It looks flat, like someone painted over it with a wall paint brush or roller, making it look almost all even.

[kind cobalt]

The same fucking thing happens on space station when NPC pilots teleport in / out of the starships

[obtuse jewel]

Oh like between those planetary charts? That's happening with any type of item?

[serene viper]

I knew something was off and thought it was Arghs Water Mod not being updated, but ye ..
Water Reflections are just non-existent since FRACTALS

[kind cobalt]

Any type of trading window that has those buttons I think

[obtuse jewel]

I'll check...

[obtuse jewel]

I'll post a screenshot in a minute. It's showing fine for me on Xbox Series X. I can check in a bit on the Deck, but will probably need to update.

I only checked a Trade Terminal at my freighter though. I hope that's what you meant.

[kind cobalt]

I checked technology vendors, NPC pilots

Gonna check trading terminals now

[fickle hinge]

From what I understand all short range teleportation animation and materializing/demarerializing animations are the same. This has not been tackled yet.

[kind cobalt]

Same issue with trading terminals

The outline is missing some pixels

[fickle hinge]

Alright. Is there a possibility for you to start a fresh creative save (for ease of purpose) and these if the controller is still not functioning properly? Of course if you have time right now, or whenever you do have time.

The missing outline, the vertical lines along the edges of some screens, some other UI bugs haven’t been addressed completely, yet.

[bright lion]

Yeah I'll let you know... 🙂

[fickle hinge]

Although it’s reported to HG by us and other members of different discords.

[kind cobalt]

Yeah but has anyone else reported such issues?

[fickle hinge]

Yup!

Some players have mentioned this

I have seen it too

[obtuse jewel]

On Xbox Series X

Will check the Deck next.

[fickle hinge]

Do you remember that refiner issue you had posted earlier, friend-entity @kind cobalt?

Where the input tabs were pushed to the extreme left?

I had that issue too, but a reload fixed it

I do wonder though.

Are you, by any chance, using any up scaling method?

Could it be an issue of smaller screen dimension?

[kind cobalt]

I do be running FSR

But that was on my notebook

Full HD size

[fickle hinge]

Can you reproduce the issue without FSR?

[kind cobalt]

Yeah gimme a minute will see on Deck

[fickle hinge]

Thank you :KannaPog:

Oh

:KannaPog:

Fuck!

:HeartRip:

[kind cobalt]

Gonna restart the game just to make sure

[fickle hinge]

My nitro ran out

🥺

[kind cobalt]

Pepe cry hands

Alrgith, resolution scaling 100%, resolution 1280x800, no FSR

[obtuse jewel]

[kind cobalt]

Nope, still the same

Inputs shifted to the left

[fickle hinge]

Alright. I’ll add this as a possible UI bug for the second round of bug reports.

Will have to organize the list a little, after all of these bugs are compiled.

Can you describe the bug in suitable phrasing, please? My brain ain’t functioning properly, too tired 😦

[kind cobalt]

Sorry but I'm also tired, just wanted to play a bit before bed

[fickle hinge]

No worries. I’ll edit the list when I have more brain power hehe!

[bright lion]

Creative save - Played 11m42s so doesn't look like the controller problem exists in creative mode But I did see a couple of graphic glitches, placed a square room and installed a teleporter, no low power symbol but no graphics to indicate such but it still worked... Also I placed a Base computer down and that worked to register the base but there seems to be another base computer placed as well...

[fickle hinge]

Hmm!

[fickle hinge]

Friend-entity @obtuse bane it looks like a save file issue to me.

[fickle hinge]

Some of the things you’ve mentioned might be a feature of creative save.