nms-expedition

[dim dragon]

its hella bright too

divine light lookin ass

[dim barn]

Yeah, youre seeing the same thing I am

Also, missions progress all %TEAMNAME%, etc?

[shell ruin]

probably meant to be the color of the winning team

[atomic estuary]

It almost had me

[dim barn]

Ill delete the screenshot, in case that was spoiler, lol

[crimson coral]

I wonder if will there be grand battles with the swarm
I want a ship furball in space

[atomic estuary]

Random rogue black hole near the objective

[crimson coral]

Lol
Haha

[shell ruin]

yeah, I got that one too ! 😄

[crimson coral]

Imagne going into it

[shell ruin]

I was tempted to

[knotty lotus]

Im stuck at mission where is says 3%, does i need to wait 8h and do missions?

[dim barn]

Yeah, my progess is broken, can't interact with the Core

[wraith junco]

Happened to me too

[dim dragon]

Alright, tried a reload, and also starting the game anew, and still no success. Seems someone or something bricked the Core.

[crimson coral]

So, this exped is kind of a chore and somewhat broken?

[dim dragon]

That doesn't look so healthy for the planet

[atomic estuary]

You need to wait until it goes to 100%, it's a shared progress bar for all players

[white grove]

PC = 3%, this is going to be a slow grind

[rustic pumice]

For me everythings normal

[crimson coral]

Pfft
Shit

[wraith junco]

Looks like event is seed scripted

[dim barn]

Yeah, tried a full relog, restarted Steam, same bug

[knotty lotus]

We have 2 months to beat that alien virus, okay!

[tough tendon]

yup

[white grove]

so each group need to do about 33.33%

[knotty lotus]

So, everyone got black hole in the same mission? lmao

[dim barn]

At some point the consoles will also be up to date, and that will give it a big push

[knotty lotus]

propably the best expedition in this game, the only one i will complete 100%

[tough tendon]

hopefully

[atomic estuary]

Kinda, it's also a competition, group that does the most work "will be commemorated for all times" according to the article on NMS website.

[tough tendon]

its honestly my least favorite because it’s literally impossible to do some missions if you have multiplayer on

[knotty lotus]

i hope when the expedition end, we will be able to find that swarm in random planets, and we must save them by destroying them

[tough tendon]

no other expedition was this bad with multiplayer except maybe Remnant

[knotty lotus]

i dont have ps+ so im good lol

[empty ferry]

That’s all I’m getting when I interact with the core is this the problem everyone was talking about and is there a fix?

[dim barn]

Yeah, I have that issue as well

That's at least three of us now

[white grove]

I see weird stuff.

and how did this person add a corvette?

[empty ferry]

Those are glitches in the matrix

[dim barn]

People save editing and such

[white grove]

but they look sooo good

[dim dragon]

great premise for this expedition, but the execution... yikes.

[remote thunder]

something like this, probably: <#nms-expedition message>

[tough tendon]

yeah

[knotty lotus]

there should be a progress bar in command !swarm to see how much left

[dim barn]

Would be of no surprise if someone trying to be clever is why we are having issues now

[remote thunder]

#discord-server-feedback 😉

[west forum]

Are the problems something that hotfixes in a few days might fix or just design issues? Should I start or wait a few days?

[shrewd onyx]

Hmm. New item in the Anomaly and the mission-selection UI has gone missing… OTOH, update to be downloaded.

[knotty lotus]

wait isnt this possible to turn off multiplayer?

[tranquil pewter]

Yea you can

[tough tendon]

yeah, but i normally like having multiplayer on to see other people doing stuff

[knotty lotus]

ok

[tough tendon]

but with it on, some missions just completely break until you turn it off

[glad hollow]

Ok now I too can't interact with the mission node

[dim barn]

Yeah, it's broken for several people

I turned on MP for a minute, and people were mentioning it in the nexus, as well

MP on/off, relogged, it's just currently borked

[tough tendon]

the devs at hello games must be crying with all the bugs they have to fix

[modern burrow]

Is this supposed to be like this

[dim barn]

maybe I'll try to teleport or warp, and try again

[shrewd onyx]

I expect so. It's what I just saw, anyway.

[glad hollow]

The expedition is good imho but the execution could be better lol.

[uncut horizon]

can’t access the expedition at all on ps4 rn, not from the anomaly and not from the main menu, anyone else getting this? games up to date

[dim barn]

I think there is a disconnect from whatever it's supposed to be based off of, since its also showing the %TEAMNAME% etc

[glad hollow]

Anyway back to building my temporary freighter. Lemme go salvaged frigate module hunting

[tough tendon]

the servers crashed, i imagine

[remote thunder]

can you try to disable multiplayer go outside and respawn anomaly and go back in?

[dim barn]

Looks like the Swarm won! ggs

I tried that, will try to warp to a different system and try

[floral onyx]

Is anyone else having trouble with the restore: sweeper missions? I've excavated 10 swarmer debris, but the counter keeps resetting every time

[dim barn]

Oh

its fixed now

ANYWAYS, lol

I just restarted, and its as it should be

[shrewd onyx]

Update (experimental) is installed here; the extra structure has gone and the UI is present again.

[trail cliff]

prismatic core ui broke

[dim barn]

I JUST restarted, and it's back to normal

Was busted for me, as well

[trail cliff]

i restarted my whole ps5 already

still broke

[remote thunder]

i was just online before this exp update dropped, and it was fine

[dim barn]

And if I see that black hole, im super gonna fly into it

[modern burrow]

Still there

[trail cliff]

ima restart again

[remote thunder]

try to full game restart and warping to a diff system and resummoning anomaly

i just logged on again, and i'm seeing a failure to connect to NMS servers right on the load save ui

[floral onyx]

so, it looks like the exavating swarmer debris won't work unless there's a cluster of three right next to each other. weird.

[dim dragon]

yo i just tabbed back over from tiktok

[modern burrow]

Ah full restart fixed it thanks

[trail cliff]

yay we still in the lead

[remote thunder]

it does, it just needs to have terrain manipulator equipped when you loot the debris; i just submitted a bug report on this

[trail cliff]

long live weavers

[remote thunder]

yeah, it's failing to connect

[zealous lance]

Some of my fellow sages seem to share my aversion to sabotage missions

[white grove]

do file integrity check?

[trail cliff]

i feel bad for yall, sages had a chance to take the lead from us (weavers)

[remote thunder]

i would, but it's not me for sure

it's back

[zealous lance]

Don't feel bad, I have 0 interest in "winning"

[stone folio]

can you take multiple ships from one expedition to your main-save?

[trail cliff]

search up “expedition terminus dupe glitch”

[stone folio]

ty

[ashen violet]

I don't see the expedition

[harsh garden]

Expedition isn’t working on PS5

[white grove]

start a new save

[ashen violet]

Oh you can't do it from the terminal?

[white grove]

go out your game, then start a new, you will have multiple windows options, one will be the expedition. we all start from scratch

[ashen violet]

Gotcha

[white grove]

interesting, all i have is a hole with a symbol above it

[empty ferry]

So restarted the ps5 went back into game warped to a new system summoned the anomaly and still wasn’t working opened the ps5 home and checked for an update to the game it was current went back to the game and opened the expedition menu and it was all there looked at the core and it was normal and you could interact with it finally

[ashen violet]

Seems to be starting from the new game menu

[candid shell]

you can get to that screen from the logs menu too

[ashen violet]

Said download failed initially but now I'm able to

[remote thunder]

i was having issues too just a bit ago, not like that, but there were other players having that same issue. i think that it was a temporary failure on the servers, which was even causing progress failing to appear

i just waited for a bit and it recovered

that said

[hard locust]

Which team is leading currently?

[ashen violet]

Ooh you don't pick your team

[remote thunder]

@harsh garden other players had to try to full game restart, disable (or enable, if it was disabled lol!) multiplayer, warp to a diff system and resummon anomaly

[candid shell]

do we have purple systems?

[remote thunder]

i had not noticed that corrupted ichor actually sold for a bunch!

also this bit here - we can undertake prim core missions from anywhere actually

but wont have the benefit of not using warp fuel

[dim dragon]

it might be possible that if you do it right you can do a hybrid of both, where you land in the anomaly but don't get out, but instead select the mission via log and take off again

Personally haven't tried it and have no missions left, so who knows

[remote thunder]

no idea yeah, havent tried it either

[harsh garden]

It’s working now. Im not sure what happened but we’re all good 👍

[dreamy hawk]

Aw you can't bring your corvette into the expedition? makes sense but would've been cool

[remote thunder]

might have been just those server issues some of us were noticing a few minutes ago

[dim dragon]

we do a little bit of trolling

[remote thunder]

there's an unofficial way, but.. probably best if we dont anyway.

[dreamy hawk]

Yeah I was just gonna swap back to my primary and bring in my trusty sentinal interceptor

[chrome perch]

So far so good

[rapid spindle]

I'd been hoping to be assigned to Weavers because blue is my favorite color, instead I was assigned to the Royals

I'll be doing my best to contribute

[worthy sluice]

I wanted royals or weavers but ofc I got sages

I'll live

[knotty lotus]

is it random? i think it just joins you where is less people

im royal but didnt care with one i would be

[white grove]

Press Esc > Secondary missions > Countermeasure > click Track Swarm activity. - you get the same screen as in the Anomaly.

[remote thunder]

latest steam experimental patch (https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/666114913574446568/), lots of fixes but this one particularly stood out:

Fixed an issue that made it difficult to place a refiner on crucial expedition planets.
sweet

[umbral forum]

So it's a competition now?

[wet jay]

.... ummmm something tells me, that that's now how black holes work....
ATLAS please.....

[remote thunder]

we're all working to the same goal though - the competition is just to see which team gets celebrated

[high fjord]

Can someone help me? My ship crashed on a snow planet and I need star bulb
Im on PC

[umbral forum]

Thanks for the quick summary. Have they somehow planned for people being able to use mods or duplication?

[remote thunder]

how did you get there? shouldnt really need star bulb for much after getting off starter planet/fixing ship

[remote thunder]

hmm,in what way?

[umbral forum]

I haven't started the expedition yet, so I don't know what counts for a "faction"? Just wondering if whatever HG came up with can't be defrauded by people using mods or save editors and whatnot.

[high fjord]

I needed to disassemble a hive machine, sentinels were everywhere when I aggrod them. Got into my ship, thought I could just kill the sentinels before jumping then I got 1 shot pretty much

[neat flare]

Is it just me that doesn’t have access to the expedition, (I just logged on after like 3 months)

[remote thunder]

nah, it's just teams, not really factions, you're not gonna be fighting other players or anything

[remote thunder]

not yet available on xb/gp and switches

[neat flare]

Ah alr cheers, how long

[remote thunder]

needs 6.40 patch or later

[remote thunder]

sorry, dont know, we're all just players 🫂

[neat flare]

Ah alr

Thx anyway

[umbral forum]

I guess it will be better if I see stuff with my own eyeballs. Will pack up some extra supplies for this expedition just in case.

[fallen junco]

This is Splatfest: Rock vs Paper vs Scissors all over again!

3 teams

And probably a lot of hate

Considering 1 team will be immortalized

[wet jay]

is it just me or the team distribution seem kinda static- that is there's more weavers in general?

[high fjord]

Anyone able to help me? Im on Nirou Alpha. I need Star Bulb

Otherwise I have to start again and that sucks

[fallen junco]

Can't you go to a different planet?

[high fjord]

Ships crashed, You need a Pilot Signature for launch thruster which is damaged

it broke because sentinels killed me

[floral onyx]

I had to walk a long ways away before I could find any starbulbs

[stray jewel]

is this expedition's completion really locked behind dailies ._.

[prisma oak]

Basically, yeagh

[fair kestrel]

Is swarm update on xbox? Cant see an update

[prisma oak]

Not yet as far as I know

[icy hazel]

No it’s more than likely time gated

If you’re uninterested in the team reward of being recognized in the anomaly, just come back later once you do your mission milestones

[deft lichen]

did they lock off corvette use???

[remote thunder]

yes

[deft lichen]

oh my god

[icy hazel]

If you can find/buy pariffinium, you can make star bulbs with that and oxygen

[wet jay]

the wonky part is, i was under the impression that you get to choose your faction Pokemon mystery dungeon/ personality quiz style, but nope

[icy hazel]

That’d be more unbalanced than it currently is tbh, not saying it isn’t unbalanced now

More interested in when it predetermined our faction, is it counting when we join the expedition, or is it only counting us as a faction member/player if we make it to anamoly

[formal cape]

your color is locked before the anomaly

[rotund gazelle]

anything particularly useful to bring into the expedition?

[icy hazel]

Color is yes, I know that, but if it’s locking color before the expedition, than the teams are likely to be uneven since not everyone would do expedition
If it starts counting when we click into expedition, then how is it uneven. That makes me wonder does it start counting us as members when we get to anamoly since some may give up before that

[vague fractal]

My guess, if they want it even(ish), is that the fragment is assigned when you start the expedition based on current population of each group.

[icy hazel]

That’s not been the case atm

[tepid badger]

Not really, it's a pretty easy expedition. You can't copy your ship, but you can copy your multi-tool so make sure it's all decked out. You will get 10k nanites so you don't need to worry about that

[rotund gazelle]

kewl

[green canopy]

Hey, i came to the countermeasures milestone, i did all three missions, what to do now?

[icy hazel]

Wait for the next set of missions or wait until the next milestone unlocks from the community/time gated event

[green canopy]

oh, so this is the thing all people was mad about

i see i see

[icy hazel]

Yes, unnecessary imo but understandable

[green canopy]

okay, i guess i will farm the nanites and upgrade ship for now

[vague fractal]

They should probably have edited this bit if we can't copy a ship in. It could be confusing for people who had never started an expedition from an existing save. (Me. I'm talking about me being confused by it. In case that wasn't obvious. 😁)

[twin mulch]

How do you do that?

[vague fractal]

Do which?

[supple stag]

I believe it has to be a regular starship, not a corvette.

[gleaming lotus]

We love our landing gear breaking on a planet with no star bulbs

[twin mulch]

Get my items into the new expo

[vague fractal]

When you start the expedition from the console on the anomaly (to the left of quicksilver vendor), it first gives you an option to select some tech and items to bring along.

[twin mulch]

Oh ok

I didn't do that I started it from the menu 😭

Nvm then

[vague fractal]

From what I have seen so far, it is not a big deal if you brought nothing in or started fresh.

[agile pond]

is there a way to chose the team you want to take part or is it random when you start the expedition?

[mossy breach]

I mean you usually can, but sometimes for the sake of balance hg will lock one of, or both of the copies

[mossy breach]

Random

[brave echo]

What is the Expedition?

[shrewd onyx]

“regular starship”: a starship which occurs at fixed or pre-arranged intervals.

[agile pond]

oh...

I thought you could chose it

[umbral forum]

Great start. So many bases near the spawn point, so you can't even place a refiner to leave the planet.

[mossy breach]

Just report them bro

[umbral forum]

Did 20 times and there are still more of them,.

[dreamy hawk]

Was I supposed to lose the atlas interface-

[floral onyx]

yes

[dreamy hawk]

Alright I wasn't sure if I was just bad at the game or if it was supposed to happen lol

[supple stag]

Try turning off multiplayer. there are honestly so many effing trols on this expedition. this is the first time i have had so much trouble with other players. i will never do anther expedition with multiplayer on.

[umbral forum]

Multiplayer is off already.

[mossy breach]

Restart game

[dreamy hawk]

Try to find some star frost it should be far enough away that you can place a refiner

[twin mulch]

Did anyone get the glitch when you're disassembling the swarm wreck where atleast 50 sentinels spawn?

[dreamy hawk]

Yeah that happened while I was there with like 10 other players

I just ignored it

[twin mulch]

Same

It was funny

[uncut vapor]

Do I get rid of the bases so i can put down a refiner and actually start this expedition??

[dreamy hawk]

it was so chaotic

[uncut vapor]

I tried reporting them but nothing happens

[dreamy hawk]

Turn off multiplayer if you haven't already

[twin mulch]

My game glitched 😭

[uncut vapor]

it is off

[twin mulch]

Hello games should make it so you can't build bases on the starter planet

It's so annoying

[dreamy hawk]

I was able to place a refiner next to my ship

[brave gust]

I think we should report those people

[dreamy hawk]

Has it gotten that much worse in the two and a half hours I've been playing?

[brave gust]

It was a real mess

[dreamy hawk]

You really shouldn't be able too

I was able to progress when I started. Has it really gotten that bad people can't even progress?

[twin mulch]

Yeah

I had to travel 1k units out

[dreamy hawk]

Dear god

[wary topaz]

🐝

[vague fractal]

I was able to place one down near where I started, but there were already so many base markers nearby that it was hard to see much else. I would not be shocked to hear it is worse 24 hours later.

[dreamy hawk]

My game lagged alittle when I went into space from the amount of base markers that were loaded in

[twin mulch]

Tbh copper is non existent on the starter planet

[dreamy hawk]

But it wasn't so bad I couldn't place down a refiner

The mods need to do something about the griefing it people can't even start the expedition

[coral imp]

Hey, so, what exactly am I supposed to do in phase 3 of the expedition?
Other than wait several hours, do 3 missions, and then wait again.

[mossy breach]

It is better later on except for the missions you have to do in phase 3

[autumn cairn]

does anyone have the coordinates of the planet players first spawn into in the expedition?

[mossy breach]

Wait more

[tepid badger]

I think that's it. . .

[coral imp]

Okay, but... That's gonna take quite some time to finish the expedition then...

[static dune]

yep

[vague fractal]

This is where I started

[dreamy hawk]

can you do the funny thing you can with the living ship and set your computers time forward 3 hours to skip the wait?

[static dune]

i think you can tbh

havent looked

[dreamy hawk]

I am not waiting 13 hours for a mission or whatever the wait time is

[autumn cairn]

ye pretty sure that's the one

thanks

[coral imp]

Is there anything I should/could be doing in the meantime?

[grave bane]

On nirou alpha has anyone else found a glitch where as soon as you enter the atmosphere you get gunned down by absolutely nothing and die instantly

I’m now stranded

[static dune]

nothing in particular really

[dreamy hawk]

@coral imp you could try this

[static dune]

maybe hunt sentinal ships?

[grave bane]

Because I need to redo the pilot signature stuff

There it’s just not in proximity

[dreamy hawk]

I don't think you're supposed to swap ships based on the fact you can't bring one in

or its to prevent people from bringing insanely overpowered ships not sure

[shrewd onyx]

No chromatic metal? Nothing else which could be converted into that? (Check also rocks.)

[wintry void]

what metals are on the planet?

[grave bane]

There is copper but it’s not in proximity of the scanner

I’ll check again

There’s so many signals

Also how do I regain my ship inventory

[wintry void]

maybe just need to move a bit

[shrewd onyx]

spies another update

[dreamy hawk]

I could try to warp to you and give you some of the materials

[coral imp]

Current timer for me is about 5 and a half horus

[grave bane]

It’s kinda near the start

I’ll be able to do it myself

[dreamy hawk]

alright

[shrewd onyx]

That… sounds a bit ancient Egyptian.

[dreamy hawk]

figured I'd offer

[swift crane]

Mine stalagmites in caves, they contain copper

[grave bane]

Just asking if anyone else encountered either a player or invisible ships around that area that shoot at you

[coral imp]

Should I just switch from the expedition to my main save and then do stuff there?

[dreamy hawk]

Five and a half hours for a mission cooldown is honestly insane

[swift crane]

True

[twin mulch]

Yh

[mossy breach]

Well you'll be forced to wait for weeks because sadly the timer is only for mission cooldown, the milestone itself requires the CORE to be completed, which needs an ungodly amount of points (it's at THREE % rn)

[coral imp]

Yep

[mossy breach]

But yeah if you wanna help you could skip the 8 hours

[twin mulch]

And some people are probably gonna start leaving

[dreamy hawk]

What were the NMS devs thinking with this

[mossy breach]

Peak

Let them cook my man

[dreamy hawk]

I like the expedition but I do not want to wait Weeks to progress

[twin mulch]

Atleast update the main game

[coral imp]

Yea, kinda...

[twin mulch]

With a perma update

[umbral forum]

I wonder how many people fell in the first caves and never managed to get out because the terrain can't be edited around bases.

[shrewd onyx]

I suspect that the completion %age will go up by about 1⅔ pp/day…

[coral imp]

I had to walk a while, cause I couldn't get the copper.

[mild root]

I work 6 nights a week doing 8/9 hour shifts 🤣 😅

[dreamy hawk]

I love being told there is a rare subspace object and to stop and its literally just a blackhole

That is very loud

[vague fractal]

I'm thinking they might be rethinking things in a few more days. 😁

[high hedge]

tbf they are rare irl

[dreamy hawk]

I hope so I really do not want to wait weeks to complete this

[shrewd onyx]

(for context, if anybody's wondering, Working Time Directive)

[coral imp]

Me, but everytime I stop, I either get a first gek spawn relik, or an unkillable space jellyfish.

[high hedge]

what color teams is everyone on?

[dreamy hawk]

I thought you couldn't bring ships into this expedition? How did someone bring another expedition ship into this

[high hedge]

so i know how much to reveal

lol jk

[jade eagle]

I am stuck on an ice planet with a damaged launch thruster. To repair it I need a star bulb but I am not going to find it here. I want to abandon this expedition and start over but it looks like I cannot do that either.

[high hedge]

quicksilver guy

[twin mulch]

Does it matter what team wins

[shrewd onyx]

Primary.

[mossy breach]

Claim it again in the anomaly

[twin mulch]

Do they win a special reward?

[mossy breach]

Yeah

[dreamy hawk]

Oh bet, I don't have any quick silver though ;-;

[mossy breach]

Something in the anomaly

Probably a statue

[mossy breach]

Youuuu don't need any? You just. Claim the reward as if you were on another save

[high hedge]

you cooooould start a new save with one i think?

[dreamy hawk]

I'm currently waiting out a storm rn so I can't check lol

[mossy breach]

Fair enough

[little knoll]

Can you do the 3 missions after countermeasure from expedition or we need to wait for countermeasures to do the 3 after? Thx

[agile hollow]

I haven't been on in a couple of days, are there still issues with the bases?

[tawny flume]

why does the game keep carpet bombing me 😭

im doing sweeper restore

[coral imp]

Green

[dreamy hawk]

According to acouple people they can't progress due to base griefing

[agile hollow]

Yeah i hope that's fixed soon

[swift crane]

There's an easy fix - turn off mp and report the base

[green canopy]

do we get to save the things we get when in expedition? like resources technologies etc

[mossy breach]

It's not gonna be fixed until mp gets a revamp, HG haven't done shit about it for a couple of expeditions now

:(

[green canopy]

i mean, can we get them to the main save

[dreamy hawk]

Some people said that didn't work

[swift crane]

You can transfer some of them to your main save after it's finished

[tawny flume]

i got carpet bombed for the 5th time now

[paper oracle]

I almost completed it I just have to wait 5 hours for the missions lol

[tawny flume]

why

just why 😭

[swift crane]

Turn off mp and / or pvp in network settings

[tawny flume]

its seriously other people?

[swift crane]

Just for sure turn pvp off

[high hedge]

i’m torn because my genuine answers gave me team green but my favorite color is red

[mossy breach]

Yea there's always been griefers, but with more multiplayer focused expeditions they're being more noticeable

[swift crane]

Answers don't matter it's random (probably because of balancing)

[tawny flume]

i wasnt even doing anything and it happened again

[high hedge]

oh whuuuuut (that balancing bit makes sense)

is it locked across saves or random?

[swift crane]

I'm not sure

[tawny flume]

theres no players nearby when it happens and its such a huge area

where do i disable pvp?

[swift crane]

Network settings

[silent hollow]

Network settings > multiplayer > disable

[swift crane]

Pvp, not multiplayer

[tawny flume]

it is another player

[silent hollow]

& right below is pvp

[dreamy hawk]

Disable both honestly

[tawny flume]

asshole

[swift crane]

Mp is unstable and on life support at the moment, but it's not THAT bad

[high hedge]

team Green we gotta step it up

[dreamy hawk]

I had to because people kept placing bases ontop of objectives i need to complete

[distant ivy]

Team blue we gotta step them down

[swift crane]

I just reported every single base that was in my way

[tawny flume]

now my repair kits are in space

[silent hollow]

I was hoping for team Sage but got Weaver. At least we're in the lead, ha

[tawny flume]

now i cant launch

[dreamy hawk]

I am too lol

[swift crane]

Ofc 🙂

[tawny flume]

cus i need fucking pilot thing

[distant ivy]

Btw if the option to report is still visible even after you clicked and sent a report, it’s a bug and you gotta do it until the option disappears for the base to go away

[high hedge]

wait the colors line up with the consoles! maybe the winning color will be the main platform for Light No Fire!?

[agile hollow]

Team purple, continue moving the obsidian pillar

[distant ivy]

Kevin the cube

[silent hollow]

Do they? I thought it was based on the answers you choose during initialization

[mossy breach]

LNF is exclusive to switch, actually

[mossy breach]

(it's a joke)

[high hedge]

i did too, someone told me it was random

[west temple]

I realized you gotta take the picture to when reporting a base, then it dissaeared after.

[distant ivy]

NMs should be ported to iOS

[mossy breach]

Lmao

[silent hollow]

...I knew that. Totes!

[mossy breach]

Real

[high hedge]

it could probably nowadays

[swift crane]

Nah, let's just make it work on windows 8

[distant ivy]

In fact it should have backwards compatibility to iPods

[silent hollow]

Windows XP ftw

[mossy breach]

Hear me out

NMS on a nokia

[silent hollow]

We knew how good we had it and they ripped it from us

[high hedge]

iPod nano

[swift crane]

Give this man a prize for this idea

[silent hollow]

Nokia Man's Sky

[distant ivy]

What if no man’s sky was ported to real life

[high hedge]

on the Diamond Rio Mp3 player

[distant ivy]

Now we need ultra-realistic 2013 styled thumbnails of no man’s sky characters

[swift crane]

Ok, all humans instantly go puf (there are no humans in nms)

[silent hollow]

We all become ✨ A N O M A L I E S ✨

[distant ivy]

Like angry birds in 2016

[tawny flume]

this bs just keeps resetting???

[distant ivy]

I ate the progress, sorry

[tawny flume]

:c thats mean

[silent hollow]

You have to pick up multiple pieces

[swift crane]

Sometimes it does that, after each debris just click this mission again in log just to be sure

[tawny flume]

i have been

[silent hollow]

Try restarting the game

The server could be glitching

[tawny flume]

i did that several times but alr

[silent hollow]

Turning off multiplayer will do wonders, too

[distant ivy]

My idea to make this expedition a little more fun in a community sense would be claiming outlaw stations on the map of each different alien system

[silent hollow]

Always recommend turning off multiplayer for the first week or two of expeditions

[distant ivy]

For each faction and defending from the other 2

[crisp linden]

Any update on the percentage?

[distant ivy]

Blud got compromised

[arctic ice]

The sky is quite frankly, empty
No strange object to approach
I saw it earlier before repairig my ship but its gone

[distant ivy]

I guess it’s no man’s sky

[swift crane]

I had the same issue, just reload a restore point / autosave and it should be there

[high hedge]

a No Man’s Sky mod of Starbound would basically be NMS 2D

[sweet axle]

don't switch tools, if you change terrain manipulator to anything else it resets

[swift crane]

Ohhhh, that makes sense

[sweet axle]

took me two days to figure it out, but once you start collecting you must not change terrain manipulator, the crazy thing is that the scanner is on F and the change is G, so it's a simple mistake to make

soooo... the backpack is already available in the main save, sweeeet!

[swift crane]

Same with multitool I think

[sweet axle]

oh.. didn't even try to get it yet, it's from the companion, right?

[swift crane]

Yes, quicksilver vendor

[tawny flume]

i did notice that yeah, pretty bs
aswell as the distance to the next one soemtiems being unimaginably far???

[cloud oxide]

Am i crazy or is it unlikely for the leaderboard to change at this point? Weavers have a member lead of hundreds of players so unless the other factions are flawless while only weaver lacks participation the gap will not close. Unless im missing something which i very well might be.

[tawny flume]

'too far to determine distance' or smth

[sweet axle]

yep, I had mountains planet and the next one was "out of range" fml

[tawny flume]

i just hate that the game didnt tell ya if what your choices at the beginning of making an expedition save even meant

'oh lemme just click royal cus that sounds like the correct choice for this'

[swift crane]

No matter the answer your team is random

[tawny flume]

but its a whole faction choice

[tawny flume]

thats fair

[swift crane]

Imagine if all players just choosen red. Making it random was a great balancing choice

[distant ivy]

The RNG is based on if the factions are made up of dedicated players or not

[sweet axle]

🔷 W 🔷 E 🔷 A 🔷 V 🔷 E 🔷 R 🔷 N 🔷 U 🔷 M 🔷 B 🔷 A 🔷 1 🔷

[cloud oxide]

Maybe a good balancing choice if we could do more than 3 quests every 8 hours. Making it so all factions can only earn up to an equal number of points makes it nearly impossible for any gap to be made up for, especially with member count disparity

[distant ivy]

Weavers lead by either hundredths or thousandths

[inland niche]

Member count disparity will likely shift as the expedition is released for more platforms

[tawny flume]

thousands rn

[swift crane]

True, making new quests appear every 8 hours was a terrible decision by HG. 1h would be better

[tawny flume]

lowkey hate when games make so much fomo content and also competetive events for a chill game 💔

[inland niche]

Im hoping the pace ramps up once the expedition is out for everyone

[sweet axle]

honestly it's so weird, except digging up the remains where you can take time to walk the distance, the missions literally 5 seconds long, it's just too damn short, and 55 days of that? that's an odd choice

[inland niche]

Ngl, this competition is rather chill, idk why people are being so competitive this early on

[rapid spindle]

They bring the Expeditions back at the end of the year

[frail onyx]

Can I not progress past countermeasures?

[distant ivy]

No man’s sky is a “make your own fun” game, that’s why I did a dance battle against some royals till the whole instance joined

[rapid spindle]

Though I don't know how this one will be handled

[swift crane]

We don't even know what winning team gets. It may just be a "Congratulation" post on HG twitter

[swift crane]

Nope

[inland niche]

Its basically some decorations in the space anomaly and some bragging rights

[distant ivy]

They said they’d be immortalized on the nexus

[hollow mason]

Agreed

[frail onyx]

I guess I have to wait five hours for the missions to refresh and then do it again

[lusty slate]

They bring the current year's expeditions back during the holiday. Not all of them.

[sweet axle]

sticker and a flag

[inland niche]

My confusion is the high amount of competition this early on

[distant ivy]

Perhaps every year the expedition comes back the winning team gets the decoration in the anomally?

Like guardian games

[rapid spindle]

That's what I meant, I'm a little tired

[swift crane]

Tbh I wouldn't do this expedition again because of this timelocking

[hollow mason]

After I do it this will be my only time

[candid shell]

does anyone have all 8 so far or have they missed any?

[distant ivy]

I want more war in this, it’s a once in a long time justification for community activity, rather than playing for like 3 weeks then emptiness till next update

[rapid spindle]

I've missed seven because I only started today

[hollow mason]

I’m missing all of them, I’m still waiting on Xbox update

[rotund stag]

I have 3 because on some of the mission objectives some high iq individual though it'd be funny to build a base on top of it

[sweet axle]

55 days for 40 blue fireworks

[lusty slate]

Same, but Switch

[swift crane]

For now there are only salvage missions, no war

[candid shell]

thats bad tbh

[swift crane]

Why 55 days?

[hollow mason]

Yeap

[hollow mason]

Maybe tomorrow we may get it

[distant ivy]

The sabotage missions are the implication of war, it’s in our hands as players to enact something

[cloud oxide]

Thats how long it'll take to build the core

[sweet axle]

that's how long it takes for the thingy to build, 53 days left

[swift crane]

There's a timer somewhere?

[inland niche]

All 8?

[lusty slate]

Likely not for Switch. Nintendo never drops updates on the weekends.

[swift crane]

It might be estimated time tbh, it should be quicker

[hollow mason]

O dang

[distant ivy]

All 8 completions of each mission

[tawny flume]

i got carpet bomebed 10 times dawg this shi aint chill

[inland niche]

Thats time remaining

[sweet axle]

nope, real earth time.

[inland niche]

I mean the stakes themselves

[cloud oxide]

Could be a time limit too

[sweet axle]

it started 2 days ago

[mossy breach]

Oooo Arc raiders colors! Arc raiders collab incoming 🔥

[candid shell]

well calling this an update is a bit of a stretch unless something else happens

[inland niche]

There is literally no reason for the amount of attacking and blocking objectives, especially this soon

[distant ivy]

55 days for the whole expedition, we got multiple objectives after this one

[swift crane]

That's right. Might be the expedition end

[deft leaf]

So how’s the expedition going for everybody?

[cloud oxide]

I care less about the stakes and more about the principle. You go into the competition expecting to play on equal ground. But the ground isnt equal

[tawny flume]

yeah i reinstalled no mans sky thinking ts an update 💔

[swift crane]

We'll get 100% in less than 3 week I feel

[mossy breach]

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[hollow mason]

Waiting

[mossy breach]

How long is this in days?

[deft leaf]

Same last time I checked Weaver’s were on top

[swift crane]

Timelocked

[candid shell]

1-2% per day

[rapid spindle]

At least you've got creature battling if you hadn't checked that out

[cloud oxide]

Still are

[inland niche]

The main imbalance I see is rhe number of people completing all three missions when able to

[sweet axle]

literally in the countermeasures description: Construct the Prismatic Core - time left to construct - 53 days 17 hours

[mossy breach]

The expedition ends in 54 days

[swift crane]

There are still new players comming, so it will gradualy increase

[lusty slate]

Sipping coffee in the Switch waiting room

No idea.

[mossy breach]

Yeh that's definitely the expedition end

[hollow mason]

Well I’m Xbox is why I’m waiting

[deft leaf]

I know mic drop

[distant ivy]

We also gotta deal with the glass hive and fight the final boss

[deft leaf]

Maybe we’re just waiting for just an all out scale war against the giant Death Star I think that would be pretty cool

[swift crane]

Probably the Hive will become vulnerable to attacks or we'll get some kind of weapon

[green canopy]

found crashed solar on dissonant planet lol

[cloud oxide]

Yes, thats the issue. Even if all Sages and all Royals complete 3 missions Weavers still pull ahead under the same conditions. It would take Weavers having hundreds fewer players active than other factions active to even start making up the gap.

[green canopy]

do you think its worth swapping for other ship?

[sweet axle]

yeah that's gonna be like last 10 minutes or something.. all I know is that it's the counter for that specific objective

[lusty slate]

Love me a solar

[swift crane]

Keep in mind there are still new players coming

[green canopy]

a white one at that, system is already discovered, do you wwant cords?

c class tho

[crisp flower]

Here's the Gek Royal playermodel that I'll be using for this expedition. Look at him standing proudly...

[cloud oxide]

Yeah but the main issue would still exist. Cause even if all the factions end up equalizing Weaver will still have the lead and we would still need other factions active count to exceed Weavers active count

[lusty slate]

Nah, I have a teal custom solar I made. That is cool looking though.

[inland niche]

However, royals and sages have the same number of players, yet last I checked the sages were doing less of the restore and sabotage missions

[swift crane]

A lot less

[short quartz]

The real winner is whoever is griefing those swarm wreckage sites

Wonder what team they’re on

[inland niche]

No, those people are idiots

[short quartz]

I agree but they play a great defense

[lusty slate]

But when Switch 1/2 and Xbox join, there might be a chance those Sages and Royals will be more mission active.

[swift crane]

They are with the Hive

[inland niche]

They'd need to be mission active for all three to really close the gap

And I'm saying this as a weaver

[lusty slate]

Regardless, I doubt HG will give anything fomo to the winning team. Just all good fun really.

[glacial ember]

Can we please leave the console war undertones off the burner please?

[lusty slate]

(Phone, I swear, stop typing for me)

[candid shell]

we better get something

[inland niche]

Its not console war undertones, its acknowledging that some consoles get the update later

Its not their fault

[candid shell]

even if its only a flag that says "winner"

[cloud oxide]

Royals have 200-300 player lead on sage. And the difference between Royals and Sage are roughly the same.
Purge 34,089:33,471 ~600pts
Restore: 31,475:30762 ~700pts
Sabotage: 30,754:30,031 ~700pts

[lusty slate]

...how was that console war? I AM a Switch player, fyi.

[distant ivy]

Only one I’ve seen is a Royal (it had red flags)

[little knoll]

Can you do the 3 missions after countermeasure from expedition or we need to wait for countermeasures to do the 3 after? Thx

[inland niche]

Difference in player count?

[distant ivy]

It’s a spiritual war (each fragment of the soul)

[cloud oxide]

No player count difference is 200-300.
Point difference between each mission type is 600-700. You were saying Sage was doing less restore and sabotage than Royals but that difference is only a little less proportional than Royals and Sages doing Purge missions

[inland niche]

Alright, I see... so why arent more people in general doing all three missions?

[oblique solstice]

what percent is our prismatic core at now?

[cloud oxide]

Even if Sages were to make it more proportional by everyone doing all missions we would need to exceed Royals to catch up which is unlikely due to the player count gap

[inland niche]

If the difference is largely equal, the count gap may not matter

[distant ivy]

The difference will become more apparent after 1-2 weeks as the dedicated players remain

[inland niche]

If the count includes everyone who initialized, that means it includes the people who stop participating for most of the event

[high fjord]

Haha, this happened to me too. Unfortunately no one wanted to help and I restarted

[high fjord]

I’ve restarted and got onto phase 3. I didn’t realize this expedition is time-gated to high heaven

[open gorge]

I don't think hello games thought through disassembly correctly i have 100000 drones on my screen ruining my frame rate

[tawny flume]

yeah that disassembly is horrid

[inland niche]

Just drop out of multiplayer when doing the missions

[cloud oxide]

Yes but since factions were randomly assigned the odds that Sage ends up being the faction with more players active is unlikely since there is a smaller pool to pull from. Most likely active player count will roughly align with member count proportionally. The issue is that unless the higher count factions have less active players than the lower count factions the gap cant be closed which is statistically unlikely

[inland niche]

Theres no evidence that factions were randomly assigned

[ancient pier]

in fact the disparity in the numbers actually disproves randomization

[inland niche]

I understand the assumption, but theres several other possibilities with how the team assignment worked

[elfin belfry]

It was a questioner so it wasn’t random

[cloud oxide]

I was told that it was randomly assigned

[inland niche]

Whoever told you was wrong

Because we dont actually know the factors that lead to team placement

What we do know is that once your account is assigned a team, you cannot change it

[frosty pine]

My best guess is: team placement is based on the answers you give, but if you are connected to internet and the result is sent to HG, then your placement is permanent regardless of answers rerolls

So maybe that's why people who tried to reroll got the same result even imitating the answers of other people

[cloud oxide]

Ok but the rest still stands. It being randomly assigned was a factor not the main point. It is still statistically more likely that active player count will more likely favor higher member count

And my issue isnt the player count itself, its that there is no meaningful way to make up for it.

Any potential way is based on other conditional factors that are unlikely

[frosty pine]

The amount of people doesn't guarantee that you can or will win

People still need to do the missions 3 times a day

[rotund gazelle]

there isnt a way to transfer companions from the expedition file is there? just found a great one on a bubble planet

[cloud oxide]

Which is more likely to occur wirh a higher member count

[frosty pine]

You could get an egg from that companion and just transfer the egg

[rotund gazelle]

would that transfer arena stats??

[ancient pier]

or get a screenshot of the planet for portal coords and go back on your main

[eternal axle]

Who's winning currently?

[rapid spindle]

Take note of the planet's glyph sequence and come back on your main save

[cloud oxide]

Weaver

[frosty pine]

No idea because i did no pokemon thingy yet

[rapid spindle]

I thought eggs couldn't be transferred to other saves?

[hard idol]

Hexagon Planet

Perfect Hive Base

[rapid spindle]

Now you gotta build a hexagon house

[wintry void]

I once got accused of console wars, and I used to play on Xbox, PS4, PS5, PC, just cant win sometimes

[inland niche]

I do think team distribution is influenced by whichever team has the least players, so as more consoles get the update, the team balance may shift in favor of other teams

[wintry void]

I personally think its to the account name, same way in previous expeditions, if you start multiple new games, you always get the same ship and toon design/colours

[dim delta]

Well, time to wait

[novel aspen]

im unsure what to do

[split vine]

so once we hit countermeasures its just a mission grind to construct prismatic doofer and we cant do any of the other stages

[elder pumice]

What if HG is testing to see if players are willing to do dailies like an MMO.

[novel aspen]

i mean its definitely a test

[elder pumice]

Maybe it will lead into LNF

[novel aspen]

its pretty lackluster though and idk how many people will be willing to do this

even WoW learned that dailies are bad

[elder pumice]

True true

[novel aspen]

i just wish i couldve chosen my team instead of the random bs

[crisp flower]

And more pics of my Team Royal Gek for the expedition:

[elder pumice]

I’m hoping the missions get more challenging and less time gated as the core progresses

[green canopy]

okay, i just found my ship for the rest of expedition

its cute

[crisp flower]

Is the swarmers objective still blocked with a base built over the wreckage?

[inland niche]

It isnt, because at the start the default assignment is red for everyone

[novel aspen]

you just chanced on a sentinel ship?

[dim dragon]

Just report all the bases (quick menu) that it will let you and it will go away

[novel aspen]

ive made 4 different new saves, answered differently on the questions for multiple combinations, i'm always green

[inland niche]

The decision is locked once made, account-wide

Presumably to stop people from using other saves to inflate team progress

[novel aspen]

and incidentally lock you out of rewards

giving insane fomo for no reason other than poor planning

[inland niche]

I have a feeling the team flags will be released as community research items

[novel aspen]

its been 24 hours and we've got 3%

[inland niche]

As has happened with several expedition rewards in the past

[novel aspen]

so its gonna be another 4.5 weeks to pass this one milestone?

[sharp turtle]

reporting for duty

[green canopy]

Welcome Ozoto, we need all hand we can get

[inland niche]

Unknown, I think the pace might pick up as the expedition becomes available to other consoles

[hard idol]

I would like to later on, have the ability to collect the full 3 sets of items from this event. Decorate my Corvette and farms with the 3 designs

[novel aspen]

i just hate the color green

[sharp turtle]

we could maybe get story progression too unlocking faster progression

like the expeditions story line

just speculating to be clear

[novel aspen]

i mean the storyline seems pretty intent on being locked behind completing this core thing that we have done 3% for

[charred magnet]

I just completed a sabatoge mission, but the scores are still the same

Has this happened for anyone else?

[novel aspen]

consider it might be server delay of actually tallying your contribution before giving a scheduled update in score

[hard idol]

I have seen other MMO use this community push to affect an outcome, might see it again in LNF

[charred magnet]

Ah ok

[novel aspen]

its just bad game desgin unfortunately

and i wish companies would stop employing it

[sharp turtle]

i wouldnt say its bad

i mean not inherently

reception depends on how its framed and presented

[novel aspen]

except devs dont look at how reception actually is, they look at the metrics of users interacting with the system

big number of interactions = good reception in their eyes.

logging in every 4 hours to do 3 repititive missions for 0 noticable progress for weeks on end is not a good design, and i have 20 years of playing mmos of this tried and failed system of experience to know that

[umbral forum]

Saying it bluntly, hating this so far.

[sage wyvern]

The fact that you can only contribute a very small amount is the biggest problem. Everyone is just hopping on to do all three missions. No team is actually working harder than the others, the only reason Weavers are winning is because they have 200 more players

[split vine]

not may fav expedition have to say 😛
just realised the missions are also on a cooldown so cant do anymore to help either

[hard idol]

I can understand the drive to see community involvement, but with this large of a goal bar to fill, I am curious to see if the final 4 milestones in Phase 3 will happen before the designated window of time to complete this expedition.

Can be a long wait for the end date of the expedition to happen first before the goal bar fills to 100%

[sage wyvern]

Technically, if you don't do the sabotage missions your contributions are worth more. You're just helping the overall progress instead of helping your team

[shell ruin]

unsure if someone answered, but you can report the base to make it go aaway

[inland niche]

Im not sure if sabotage missions actually reduce overall progression

[icy hazel]

weavers currently are winning because they have more people repeating missions, royals are 200 players behind but have done 1000 less missions across the board

this isnt saying they wouldnt be winning with more players, but the gap is wider because of it

[sage wyvern]

Royals had the highest playercount at the start, that means they probably have the highest share of players who have gotten bored and stopped playing already

[topaz spruce]

oh my lawd ... 3% core and 1% sages. the counters work haha

[sage wyvern]

We'll probably see the Weavers progress drop off pretty soon as well, but the winning team will likely always be the one with the most players

[desert geyser]

Ok so this is the helldivers expedition, huh

[split vine]

that 3% is 1% from each faction its going to be very slow going

[inland niche]

I think the winning team will be the ones with the most players completing all three missions

[novel aspen]

100%

[icy hazel]

we'll see activity drop overall the longer it goes, thats natural

[novel aspen]

the winning team will be whoever has the most players for sure

[inland niche]

Not just most players

[novel aspen]

the most active players sorry

[icy hazel]

not necessarily

[inland niche]

Most players completing all three missions

[novel aspen]

each mission takes 5 minutes

why wouldnt they do all 3

[inland niche]

There is an annoying trend across the board of players neglecting restore and sabotage missions

[shell ruin]

the cooldwon is the killer

[novel aspen]

the cooldown is miserable, and the fomo is awful. If they would tell me "hey dont worry after this whole thing ends you can get all 3 colors" i wouldnt even be upset

i would just not contribute

[icy hazel]

people want to rush the expedition, but are forced to wait, so yea people stop playing the expedition

[topaz spruce]

i always do all 3 missions. net positive for your faction no matter what. plus easy really

[inland niche]

I have no idea

[shell ruin]

I missed 2 missions this morning due to bugs and I had to get to work

but otherwise keeping on track

[split vine]

asking you to grind and then locking you out seems counterintuative

[icy hazel]

when the easy answer is either get your milestones and wait for the next to unlock, or just play something else if its not your thing

[novel aspen]

it is

if you want us to grind this big contribution stlye expedition, dont limit it to 6 a day

[icy hazel]

if you really want to make a point, submit a feedback report

complaining here will do little to nothing

[sage wyvern]

Most trends are going to be across the board, all three teams have the same demographics. Discrepancies now are just from lower sample sizes. We'll see the differences even out as more players get added to the system

[swift crane]

Technically 9 (3 every 8 hours)

[novel aspen]

is it 8 hours? i thought it was every 4

[remote thunder]

yes, 8h

[novel aspen]

even WORSE

[swift crane]

Yes, they should appear every 1h max

[shell ruin]

not necessarly though, teams are based on a personality test so ... you might see a difference between teams based on that

[split vine]

for me i only have a few hours a day when i play its 10..00 pm here ive just done my 3 missions im not staying up to 1.00am to do them again im 50 years old i need my shut eye 😛

[swift crane]

No, they are random lol, test is just for show

[novel aspen]

"personality test"

"Are you First or Last?"

[shell ruin]

oh really ? 🙁

[novel aspen]

absolutely not a factor in your team

[icy hazel]

it kinda is

[shell ruin]

k never mind then

[icy hazel]

if lore mattered

[inland niche]

But thats the thing, the discrepancies are rather even for each team regarding completed mission types

[novel aspen]

its most likely attached to your account ID, "If ID ends in 1-3 red, if ID ends in 4-7 Blue, if ID end in 8-0 Green"

or some shit like that

[swift crane]

Something like that, or some Randint

[tough tendon]

i think there's also speculation that it's based on friend code

[deft leaf]

I noticed a lot of the customization pieces you’ve unlocked and previous or now locked in the expedition like the poncho you get from the robots or shroud of freedom I see a lot of of the sages have it

[shell ruin]

I have the poncho though ?

[swift crane]

I don't think anything is locked

[shell ruin]

colors are locked to your teams

[swift crane]

I mean customisation pieces, not colors

[deft leaf]

Yeah, but I’m a Weaver and I don’t have it

[twin mulch]

Tbf it could just be a sort of order

[novel aspen]

if it's based on FC, it would make more sense than what I said, because friend code can end in both letter and number, which gives you a total of 36 characters which divides into 3 perfectly

[swift crane]

I'm a Weaver and I use it

[violet notch]

So clearing Countermeasures is a xumminity effort?

[shell ruin]

also weaver, and I also use it

[swift crane]

Yep

[violet notch]

Bummer, its only at 3%

[twin mulch]

Do you think it's unfair numbers?

[molten mulch]

I heard it was released on Xbox is that true or no

[swift crane]

Should be 100% in 2 - 3 weeks

[inland niche]

It isnt

If that were the case, youd be able to know your team before you initialized

[violet notch]

How long does the exped go on for?
Was hoping to clear it in a night like most others

[cloud oxide]

If people figured out what part of the id is used

[shell ruin]

2 months

[swift crane]

53 days left, I also wanted to speedrun it

[deft leaf]

Yeah, it’s locked for me 😭

[icy hazel]

you probably will eventually, just not now

[swift crane]

Wait, is it quicksilver item?

[novel aspen]

it was an example, obviously they wouldnt tell us how they have it set up, but i am in 100% belief that the personality test is inconsequential

[shell ruin]

havez you checked your race ?

[cloud oxide]

Could be locked based on other customisation pieces?

[shell ruin]

probably locked because wrong race

[inland niche]

Thatbomberboi has looked into the code, and the assignment doesnt happen until you actually start

[deft leaf]

I’m an anomaly

[green canopy]

are we able to bring our expedition ships into the main save? ( mean a new one we get, not the one we start with, i found a nice sentinel)

and does the base save?

[candid shell]

lol dafuq?

[inland niche]

I dont think its inconsequential, but I do think it isnt the only factor

[twin mulch]

The expo is kinda annoying

[cloud oxide]

That doesnt necessarily mean id is completely unrelated. Maybe they only check once tou start

[twin mulch]

How it's community based

[shell ruin]

that's literally how the game calls it, sorry 😄

[twin mulch]

I just want the armour

[swift crane]

Tbh it could be something as simple as random numbers generator (1 - 3)

[shell ruin]

You have it unlocked on your main account right ?

[cloud oxide]

Because there is so much we don't know you cant rule out anything for the time being

[inland niche]

I doubt its random

[candid shell]

if we were anywhere else.......

[deft leaf]

Yeah, I have like years ago

[swift crane]

There are community efforts to finish certain milestones

[shell ruin]

I'm sorry, I don't see why you can't use it then

[novel aspen]

its def not random, the teams are way too even

[cloud oxide]

Its a little too even for pure random distribution. Maybe weighted random distribution could make sense

[twin mulch]

How do you know the numbers?

[inland niche]

I think you get a result based on the quiz, and a result based on the team with the lowest number of players

[novel aspen]

you can see them on the score ui

[shell ruin]

you can see the numbers of travellers fragment in the mission screen

[swift crane]

During expedition there is a terminal that tells you how many people are in which team

[inland niche]

Then the servers do something that decides between the two

[topaz spruce]

it's official... the swarm is here just for the nipnip (they dropped 5x nip on death)

[twin mulch]

Weavers have the most

[cloud oxide]

Or maybe team count affects the weight of certain questions. So like question A being answered sage answer give 5 points and weqver gives 1 point towards the end deciding total.

[twin mulch]

Sages have way less

It's acctualy unfair

Royals are in the middle

[novel aspen]

green also the most mid color of the 3 teams

[twin mulch]

The places are now lowest to highest bases on team numbers

[novel aspen]

i will just not contribute because i really could care less about who wins

[twin mulch]

The expo is basically rigged

[inland niche]

Amount of active players is more important than total players

Also it has been three days

[novel aspen]

3 days 3%

[shell ruin]

being consistant it what matters here, the more active you are, the faster it'll complete

[inland niche]

96% of the progress bar left to be filled and people already assuming the winners, are you kidding me?

Its like jogging under a kilometer in a marathon and assuming who will win from that

[split vine]

im sage i like an underdog story

[novel aspen]

when i started it day one and there were less than 300 of each team, I was mad I was green, and blue was losing by like 2k points. now blue is winning by more than that

[mental saddle]

The missions being daily is kinda boring

[inland niche]

Until theres an actual percentage difference between team progress, it is stupid to assume who will win

[swift crane]

At 50 - 75% there could be a clear line

[umbral forum]

What I hate in all this is why they had to turn this into some sort of competition.

[shell ruin]

even then, if one team decide that they are definitly going to win they could loosen their effort allowing other teams to catch up

[swift crane]

Timelocking tasks to 3 every 8 hours is worse

[mental saddle]

You guys are competing, I just wanna see what's next

[inland niche]

The competition is perfectly fine

I find the reactions to it to be the problem

"Oh you should expect people to react this way in a competition" no the fuck I shouldnt

[novel aspen]

competition is fine implementation is not

[mental saddle]

2 of which I completed in seconds, one I accidentally reset by swapping my multitool mode and took me one extra minute

[umbral forum]

That's the thing. Why not just add a progress bar where everybody contributes.

[inland niche]

THERE LITERALLY IS

[swift crane]

Wdym? There is a progress bar

[inland niche]

ITS RIGJT THERE AT THE TOP

[mental saddle]

Me when I read the page and forget to understand

[cloud oxide]

Im pretty sure they were trying to say 1 faction instead of 3.

[sage wyvern]

The thing is though, unless the team distribution changes (it probably will), the Sages don't really have any hope of winning. The only way they could with less players would be for their players to be more active. But they wont because there's nothing about the Sage team that would make its players more or less active than the other teams. The players who are going to actively play for the whole expedition are evenly devided between all three teams.

[inland niche]

It is still too early to tell

[umbral forum]

I think people don't understand the meaning of "just" a bar. Learn to read, people.

[mental saddle]

Having a bar with timelocked missions is not very useful

[swift crane]

Everyone have the same chances of winning for now, only 3% of the bar is done

[mental saddle]

If anything, it makes the timelock worse

[novel aspen]

if you want a competition where people can feel impactful, remove the timegate

bare minimum

[swift crane]

That's why I hate this expedition - I can't speedrun it like I always do

[inland niche]

That is something I actually agree with

[shell ruin]

not being able to speedrun is kinda the point though

[swift crane]

Ok, but not like that, this is the worst way of preventing it

[cloud oxide]

This, my only issue with the member count disparit is that the time gate makes it so numbers are the only meaningful factor.

[mental saddle]

Aight, imma clon- I mean, legally acquire some modules

[inland niche]

At the very least reduce it as much as possible, idk if the time gate is in part due to the servers searching for the next mission goals

[novel aspen]

if someone wants to try and hard carry their team to victory for the big fancy end trophy, let them. that will also allow teams like green with significantly less players be able to play harder to try and win

[inland niche]

Numbers of active players

[cloud oxide]

And as I've said before a bigger team will statistically have more active players.

[inland niche]

If one team has 300k members, but only 1 in 4 are active, the team with 200k members with 1 in 2 active will win

[mental saddle]

Hard to play harder when I can't do one mission after the other

[novel aspen]

thats what i'm saying

[shell ruin]

one the contrary, the winning team may feel like they have less efforts to do and will care less

[inland niche]

I still wanna know why more purge missions are completed than others

[cloud oxide]

Thats a conditional exception.

[umbral forum]

I've personally helped carry an event in Pokémon GO many years ago, but I feel it's not a good thing since I and some 3 or 4 more basically tipped the balance just on the last day because we accumulated points without redeeming them to make sure that 1st team was feeling comfortable by stopping their own progress assuming tehy'd already win.

[icy hazel]

people probably think the minus missions take away from completion

[atomic estuary]

That's why I keep telling my fellow weavers to not get complacent and go back to work

Step on it

[novel aspen]

honestly man after 23 years of playing MMOs with contribution events, don't think too hard on it, people will be lazy about it for a billion reasons that dont make sense

[atomic estuary]

I want to see results, chop chop

[cloud oxide]

If they wanna avoid speed run one way could be daily milestones and give points to factions based on when they reach each milestone.

[shell ruin]

purge is the one that give all the points for you teams no ? people see +3 point for their teams and care less about the rest

[inland niche]

Im telling everyone to stop giving up

I don't care if the weavers lose first place from that

[swift crane]

It's hard to work when I can only do 3 two minute missions every 8 hours

[shell ruin]

I've been doing my part whenever its possible

[zenith coyote]

Hey y’all I’m stuck an hour+ away from my ship. Trying to find a base with a powered portal is practically impossible… what can I do at this point? I don’t have access to my ship

[atomic estuary]

Do better

[swift crane]

Ok, I'll be waiting faster

[shell ruin]

honestly don't really care if my team win or lose, its more about the global progezssion

[atomic estuary]

That's the spirit

Re: waiting faster

[inland niche]

I dont think sabotage decreases overall progress

[icy hazel]

it assuredly doesnt

[inland niche]

It adjusts the ratios

[novel aspen]

just hacks off some points yea

[cloud oxide]

As far as I was told we can treat it as a +1 to our factions contribution

[inland niche]

Which means you royals and sages better be doing those sabotage missions!

[cloud oxide]

Yep been doing all 3 when I can

Sadly school and sleep get annoyingly in the way

[swift crane]

Galactic war is far more important

[inland niche]

Once I establish my own research outpost, I'm gonna probably start making excess materials and handing them out

[umbral forum]

I wished people could just hold each other's hands and cross the finish line together. Assuming a uniform distribution, it basically leaves 33.33% of the community with a feeling of superiority and the other 66.66% with a sour taste in the mouth.

[cloud oxide]

Oh I know im just sleep deprived enough I don't always get a choice when I sleep. And school im financially ruined if I stop and cant contribute the the war

[swift crane]

You know what? That's great idea, just giving out additional resources to people from your team at anomaly

[crisp linden]

One guy kept fucking shooting at me during the expedition

[inland niche]

I never said anything about team

[crisp linden]

I lost everything

[cloud oxide]

Oof

[umbral forum]

The fact that PVP is enabled by default makes absolutely no sense.

[remote thunder]

hive of glass is so scary haha. flew next to it, and yep, sure enough - it stripped my shields, managed to take away two health pips, in like less than 30 seconds.

[crisp linden]

God damn red scumbags

[swift crane]

Really? I was chlling right next to it for a few minutes, never took my shields down

[inland niche]

Disable multiplayer until youre established, and even then have it off for missions

[cloud oxide]

Yeah I flew straight at thw hive and nothing happened to me

[swift crane]

Turn PVP off

[inland niche]

Also that

[umbral forum]

Same, but I replaced the old C-class junk with a S-class reward ship because I value my time, so maybe it wasn't balanced with that in mind.

[inland niche]

I personally decided to cloak my markers so others cant target me

[crisp linden]

I’ll do that cause last time I tried going offline the missions didn’t load

[swift crane]

I used 10k nanite reward to upgrade ship to B tier

[remote thunder]

whaaat no - it immediately started shooting at me

were you close enough?

[novel aspen]

wont catch me dead wasting nanites on a C class expedition ship

[swift crane]

Same for me, but my shields were never down

[remote thunder]

wooott

i cant repro that 😄

[novel aspen]

i didnt even install the hyperdrive in mine i went to the anomoly and synthesized an old expedition ship

[swift crane]

I'll transfer it to my main save as a souvenir

[tepid badger]

While waiting for the cooldown I'm working on getting 50k nanites so I can upgrade my direwasp to S class. . . Seems like a worthwhile goal

[inland niche]

I was also able to approach the hive without being attacked, but idk what the exact reason was

[novel aspen]

thats what the multitool is for

[deft pasture]

Does anyone do the sabotage missions? I dont, seems counterproductive. Also I didn't expect the progression to be this slow

[cloud oxide]

I didnt even think about getting reward ships i should def pull some stuff outta there

[novel aspen]

its not counter productive it helps your team win

[lapis bronze]

oh my god its going to take ages to be able to finish part 3 lol

[inland niche]

I have been because I dont see why theyd make it reduce global progress

[novel aspen]

unless youre blue or red, in which case dont do them

[crisp linden]

I just hope this slow crawl towards building the core ends with just a giant space battle

[swift crane]

Which teams are you on?

[deft pasture]

Sage

[cloud oxide]

Do the sabotage it progresses the global progress and boosts your team. Unless youre blue or red, don't do them.

[inland niche]

Yeah youd better do it

[novel aspen]

absolutely do the sabotage missions then

[swift crane]

Then don't do them if you don't want to

[deft pasture]

I see

[novel aspen]

dont listen to retri, hes a royal

[swift crane]

What? Ew, no, I'm a Weaver

[inland niche]

My fragments may be winning, but a competition isnt fun when people give up

[crisp linden]

Who cares about teams I jusr want the damn core to be done so we can move on in the damn expedition

[swift crane]

Same

[inland niche]

Then do the missions

[swift crane]

All missions contribute to progress, even sabotage

[crisp linden]

At this rate it’s gonna be another 97 days before we reach 100%

[inland niche]

It works out the same in the end regardless

[cloud oxide]

I mean the whole teams thing lines up with the mission. Only hindrance the teams have on the mission is people misunderstanding the sabotage because they don't want to hinder global progress

[swift crane]

Nah, there are still new players coming, it will be finished in 2 - 3 weeks

[inland niche]

And players assuming that the placings we have now are enough to predict the end results

[deft pasture]

Someone has their clossus exocraft in the space anomaly???

My ps app isn't linked so I cant send a ss??

[novel aspen]

lucky

[cloud oxide]

That doesnt really affect much, the people quitting because of the competition would likely have already quit if there wasn't a competition.

[inland niche]

Only as long as the other teams have that kind of attitude

That doesnt make sense

[novel aspen]

i was saying hes lucky hes weaver, i wanted to be weaver and got stuck with stinky green

[swift crane]

"Oh, look, there's 3% done, Weavers will win for sure"

[remote thunder]

with spider legs? lol i saw someone posting a screenshot of this earlier

[deft pasture]

Yes!!

[cloud oxide]

No its oh look weavers have hundreds more players than us and missions are tinelocked so we cant put in more effort to surpass them.

[remote thunder]

no idea how, but they shouldnt tbh

[deft pasture]

After I do this sabotage mission ill hop off

[swift crane]

Wait, really? Colossus in anomaly? This sounds.... interesting

[shell ruin]

I run some numbers, its not just because of the numbers of the players, weavers seems to be doing more missions than others teams

[inland niche]

That genuinely is not true

I get that not everyone can do all 9 missions per day, im literally one of those

[remote thunder]

<#nms-expedition message>

[swift crane]

I can only do 6

[novel aspen]

when i started the expedition weavers were losing 🙂

and i still wanted to be a weaver

[cloud oxide]

Yeah they have a larger pool to draw from. If you take 100 players and 10 players your likely going to have more active players in the 100 than in the 10

[topaz spruce]

i guess while i'm waiting for my timers i can build a base worth visiting.... or at least one that doesn't look like a box for a change

[stable basalt]

it wont let me copy my starship to expediton

[swift crane]

Ohhh, someone probably placed Exocraft station on a corvette

[swift crane]

Same

[topaz spruce]

no corvettes or copied ships ... you can use Expedition rewards though

[inland niche]

The differences dont match that, though

[stable basalt]

well that sucks

[topaz spruce]

not really. we start on dissonant worlds and it is super easy to get a sentinel ship

[shell ruin]

the ratio is per players so one players doing 10 missions and 10 players doing 1 missions would still be a ratio of 1

[swift crane]

Using expedition reward ships (and multitools) is much faster

[stable basalt]

i dont like sentiel ships i prefer my exotic but the wraith will work too

[topaz spruce]

i loaded my Starborn Runner expedition reward. that's been cherry for this

[stable basalt]

yeah that might work too

[swift crane]

I'm using Atlas staff (from rewards) but I'm still using starter ship (just for fun)

[umbral forum]

For those who have a reward ship, there is no point to suffer for no particular reason using a C-class ship.

[stable basalt]

i transfeed my multi tool

[topaz spruce]

i'm using the Direwasp because it's cool af and is pretty good

when i'm not using my Alien one i ported over.

[umbral forum]

Are the stat bonuses already known?

[swift crane]

I have to finally give this new multitool a go

[topaz spruce]

well you have to suffer until Anomaly anyways

[novel aspen]

i mean anomoly is almsot the very first thing you do

so you dont have to suffer long

[swift crane]

You can't go to anomaly right away but you unlock it pretty quickly

[distant ivy]

Once Xbox and switch join in, the process will ramp up, and they will probably boost the progress speed when people drop off

[novel aspen]

in comparison to other expeditions, its pretty heckin close to the first quest

[cloud oxide]

Yes, what i said had nothing to do with how many missions each player was doing. Im saying that a larger pool of players is likely going to have more active players than a smaller pool of players.
Blue has more mission proportion because its more likely to have more active players the bigger the pool you have to draw from.

[topaz spruce]

i've been telling my friends just get a few Dissonance Resonators until one drops an echo locator and go grab a sentinel. radiant shards everywhere. suffer the starter until then haha

[crisp linden]

It should be no cap on the mission limit so we can get this shit done I was expecting jelldivers this shit is just go to planet and give like 10 nanites

[cloud oxide]

You would have to know how many active players there are to know that

[inland niche]

But the proportional difference doesnt match that

[rare pond]

Can't u just edit the save file in expedition to trick out your starter ship?

[cloud oxide]

And how many missions each player is dojng

[swift crane]

These missions should be something like: Go to a planet and destroy 5 waves of hive, then hack a system using nanites

[crisp linden]

yes id love that

[topaz spruce]

we get 3 every 8 hours. so we should be doing all 3

[distant ivy]

3 missions per 8 hours, 6 missions a day if you have good sleep schedule

[inland niche]

Hives dont have waves

[remote thunder]

looks to be a rifle

[cloud oxide]

But not everyone is doing all three which is why it would matter for the statistics.

[inland niche]

Lucky timing should let you get all 9

[deft pasture]

#nms-media message

[swift crane]

In my timezone it's pretty nice. I can do first 3 quests before 6pm (I think it's 6pm) and another 3 after

[deft pasture]

I swear bro

[novel aspen]

i mean have you looked at it physically in game? its quite literally a rifle lmao

[distant ivy]

True, but I get ready for work a hour early

[royal comet]

incorrect, if you finish the last set of the day before bed you can sleep a full eight hours and have another 8 hours to do the first set of the day

[remote thunder]

all i know is that there's a milestone that gives 10k nanites - dont think we ever had one of those