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[solemn bane]

Right when you put it in BEFORE the expedition it goes to your expedition save, and when you put it in when you manually end the expedition, it goes back to your main save. So I guess what you put in before is lost.

Basically if you put it in before the expedition, you're supposed to take it out once you reach the Anomaly after starting the expedition.

I love the expedition terminal, but like most HG stuff it's probably not as intuitive as it could have been 😆

[versed mantle]

Yes, you need to compete the expedition afaik. Not sure what it will do when the expedition times out (it might let you transfer items then without having to compete the expedition, but I don't know) but if it doesn't the only way to transfer items is to compete the expedition

[rare lotus]

Sorry for the questions, I’m very new.
So the element I put in there was some random one like cobalt or something. I got that back. So I could’ve dropped amy expedition inventory into the empty slots at expedition terminal and taken it with me?

[versed mantle]

Yes

[jolly jetty]

Guess who completed the expedition in the last ~20 mins. (spoiler, it's me) 🥸

[solemn bane]

Yes, for many items, but not all items go through (for instance you can't put eggs in)

[versed mantle]

It should have sold stuff in your suit for you though so you at least got something back for it

[solemn bane]

#nms-spoilers please

[solemn bane]

Oh that's true, you do get compensation for the "lost" items

[rare lotus]

Dude! Omg lol I’m so let down

[jolly jetty]

Ohh, my bad 🤯

literally spoiled the entire plot of the game 😂

[versed mantle]

Yep, there's a whole process for ending the expedition to get the most out of it and it all has to be done before actually clicking the end button or you're out of luck

[rare lotus]

That sucks man. I can’t believe it. I just saw empty slots so I thought I wasn’t taking anything with me

[versed mantle]

On the bright side there was no way to transfer your freighter so even if you'd known you would have lost that anyway

[wanton raft]

Should I do any housekeeping in the expedition sub-save before ending it to get the most loot?

[versed mantle]

Yes

[solemn bane]

It's cool, you can get it all back. One day you'll have too much and want to get rid of it.

[rare lotus]

How often do expeditions come out? Can you explain the process or link a video? Thank you

[solemn bane]

Go to the terminal and put stuff in the squares you want to take back, otherwise it gets sold

[versed mantle]

You can transfer multiple ships with all of their installed tech

But only while still in the expedition

[solemn bane]

Every few weeks to months.

[versed mantle]

See this post for instructions #nms-expedition message

[rare lotus]

Wow man. So any advice on going from here? Before I started the expedition I maybe had 3 hours into the game. So I was just flying around. Anything to help me get just started

[rare lotus]

Thank you

[versed mantle]

Additionally afaik only stuff in your suit gets sold, so move stuff to your suit from ships/base storage

Ships don't automatically get scrapped so you can scrap those to get more units as well

[solemn bane]

Go to the pause menu and click the Log tab. Choose a quest from there and do what it says. Or just mess around, it's whatever you want. The game will show you prompts in the bottom righthand corner for stuff to do

!exptime

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[versed mantle]

@wanton raft that's all I can think of, hope that was helpful

[solemn bane]

🎉

[rare lotus]

My freighter had a lot of valuable stuff in storage bc I never set up a proper base. I could just call in the freighter when I needed anything

[solemn bane]

So what, does this channel explode in 5 seconds?

[placid flower]

this is funnt, everything in my inventory and technology id picked up fit into the slots to take back. i havent lost anything lol

[solemn bane]

Right, that's how it is if you make a new save on the expedition

[blazing fossil]

Pretty much

We usually get a bit of time to discuss it

[wanton raft]

Yep, didn't have time. Oh, well.

[blazing fossil]

But then one of the mods locks the channel

[blazing fossil]

It’ll probably be back in December

[placid flower]

guess i should carry on my two hour old save now

[wanton raft]

No. I just mean the loot. go totally done with the exp.

[solemn bane]

I will be here until the bitter end. Unless they close it when I'm in the shower.

FYI you CAN still copy your ship and multi tool from the expedition (just tested).

[wanton raft]

Oh well, I ended it. I'm done.

I bet if people way until a next game update before ending it they might be sorry.

That could come any time.

[solemn bane]

I don't think they have a choice, it just ends

[blazing fossil]

You can keep going on expedition

It will be a normal save

But you’ll have all the items

And you’ll get to do main story

[wanton raft]

Well if you're in the expedition it says it ends, but you can still go back to the main save and copy stuff from the exp.

Oh so I could have had a normal save inside a normal save?

[solemn bane]

Oh I see, you were saying if they waited til the next expedition to copy stuff it may not be there.

[crimson rose]

So. any word on a new Expedition yet?

[solemn bane]

nope

[crimson rose]

It's already been half an hour! Effin HG!

[echo locust]

hi! I'm totaly new to this expedition thing, do I lose the things in my storage containers?

[solemn bane]

If you started the expedition on an existing save, you lose what was in the expedition container storage items

[echo locust]

oh, then I have to continue expedition. Do I lose my ship if I end it?

[solemn bane]

I should say you can put the items in the expedition terminal to pass them to your regular save. Your ship and multitool can be copied after you end the expedition by going back to the console and copying them, but the cargo will not be copied over

[echo locust]

Thank you!

[solemn bane]

Reading this channel now that the expedition has ended would make for one hell of a post-mortem.

[wanton raft]

Something like that.

[wanton raft]

If you were in the expedition it ended on the dot, but if you're in the main save it waits for you to get into the expedition.

[fresh spoke]

noooooooo

i thoguht it was over tomorrow

i haven't had a working computer until this last weekend T_T

[wanton raft]

I'm thinking now that if you don't end the expedition you can keep a separate regular save inside of a main save! That's freaken cool if so!

At least until there's a new expedition if not longer.

[solemn bane]

lol, that sounds incredibly precarious

[wanton raft]

Yes, but cool!

[heady coral]

!exptime

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[fresh spoke]

fffffffff

This is the first expedition I've missed since they began. Seriously sad about this. I know they'll rerun it later on, but still.

I thought they always ended on Tuesdays. Next time I'll pay more attention.

[wanton raft]

Did you just not get it done to where you get the ship? If might be re-issued near the end of the year.

[fresh spoke]

I was at the tail end of phase 3

Would have taken me...I dunno, another hour or two to finish the whole thing

I'm pretty sure they'll rerun the expedition later

Just a bummer that I did the first 11 as they came out, and missed this one

[wanton raft]

Well if you're on console and haven't already ended it, you can back date the thing and do it.

[mental basin]

I wish I could get the other 11. I did on Pc but I’m new to switch and have no way to get previous rewards

[native veldt]

When does expedition omega end

[wanton raft]

They'll re-do some of the expeditions over time.

[wanton raft]

One hour ago.

[native veldt]

💩

Okay 👍

[remote pine]

is the expedition over?

oh rightt

what if I turn off my internet connection and reset my PC clock?

will it still work that way?

[blazing fossil]

Nope

[fresh spoke]

I'm on PC and am in the expedition from my main save

[blazing fossil]

But you can’t do anything with it

It’s just to let you transfer items and stuff

[solemn bane]

Wait why wouldn't it.

[blazing fossil]

Internal game clock

[solemn bane]

Interesting

Then I gues I'll answer in #nms-modding lol

[wanton raft]

Aside from the risk of it going away at any time, isn't it a normal save inside a normal playable save if you don't end it? I'm going to test this with a back save I made a few hours ago just to see.

[solemn bane]

Nothing about that is normal, no, lol. This is the first save-in-a-save expedition

It's the new normal, I guess

[wanton raft]

By normal, I mean non-expedition save.

Don't think I could apply the word normal the way you said it to anything in the gaming industry TBA.

[restive walrus]

After expedition my base cant be renamed? keeps giving me b class module

[wanton raft]

What base is that? An base in the main save? I guess all your base are belong to NMS! 😉 Don't be confused by poor grammar in that last sentence if you don't get it.

[nova sleet]

lol I have not seen aybabtu reference in years

[native veldt]

Has the new expo started yet?

[solemn bane]

Oh, word, I totally read your message wrong

[wanton raft]

LOL! HG is a victum of high exp ectations!

[solemn bane]

!exptime

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[solemn bane]

Nope, looks like not

[solemn bane]

The thing with this is your progress is lost if you are ever forced out of the expedition save, like when a new one comes around. So if you find some cool thing you transfer (like a freighter) or get far in a colony, etc, you can't take it with you

[wanton raft]

True. It's definitely a more dangerous save.

[remote pine]

buf it worked for me now

O.o

[blazing fossil]

Hmmm

Could be platform difference

[remote pine]

steam

I don't see a timer though

so ain't sure how long it will stay this way

(also linux)

[wanton raft]

I didn't think that worked for PC any more. It still works for consoles I'm pretty sure.

[remote pine]

maybe it's cause I did it before launching the game?

otherwise I don't even imagine how else could it estimate the current time if it's not via internet and internal PC clock

[solemn bane]

Yeah that wouldn't make any sense

I guess they could be like, hey last time it was in the future! You're cheating! But mostly HG doesn't care about cheaters as long as it doesn't F with other people

[remote pine]

I honestly don't enjoy just adding prizes to the save but I did want to finish this exp

so I guess I settled with lesser cheating

(still cheating which I admit)

[wanton raft]

Yeah, getting the rewards after the exp ends is probably not doable at least for every long if at all.

[solemn bane]

Yeah I don't even care about the rewards, I just wanted to play theold expeditions

I don't think I use a single reward from expeditions

[wanton raft]

Maybe they'll make a way to do any expedition at any time in the future, but that will probably only come if they and of life the game. Don't want that.

[solemn bane]

Oh I meant when I played them all I did it for the experience of playing them. There's a way to do it but it's a bit of a hack (@'d you in #nms-modding )

[wanton raft]

You can ply any exp at any time with a mod? Didn't know that.

[solemn bane]

It's not a mod per se, but you replace a file in some cache folder, so it'll only work on PC, etc

Oh and it requires you to be offline

[wanton raft]

I didn't think it was quite as simple as that. Hope your right though.

[solemn bane]

Oh I know I'm right on this one, I am playing Omega right now, lol.

[wanton raft]

Is there a youtube vid of site which explains what cache file(s) to change for that?

[solemn bane]

#nms-modding

[wanton raft]

Ah, I check the pins in there.

[solemn bane]

Or just check the last message I posted 😄

[mossy gazelle]

Oops, did I miss Omega?

[hollow shore]

Yes, Omega expedition has expired

[mossy gazelle]

Alrighty, thanks!

[wraith junco]

!exptime

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[wanton raft]

Yes, you missed the very last expedition ever. It's named Omega after all so it has to be the last one. 😉

[wraith junco]

We dont know how many exp there will be. We can only speculate.

Imo at least 16

[solemn bane]

We'll only be able to play 15 though. When the 16th is released the entire earth explodes.

Pretty excited for 16 not gonna lie

[sleek siren]

the 16th expedition will have the last rendez-vous on the LnF planet

[remote thunder]

it was fun, looking forward to the next part of the story

[wraith junco]

Still waiting for next ARG

[hollow shore]

Waiting Titan?

[woeful kettle]

!exptime

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[woeful kettle]

huh I thought it was ending tommorow

but it was a fun expedition ngl

sick rewards

[wanton raft]

LnF?

[wanton raft]

True dat. If they don't stop at 16 they have to go all the way to 32. 😉 Not tht 32 is really important in NMS like 16, but ...

Better yet they can make an expedition builder tool and let the community take it to 256.

[sleek siren]

light no fire

[wanton raft]

Oh, of course.

The problem with that idea, as cool as it may be, is that the LnF planet is different for every player ... from what I read.

[sleek siren]

I do hope the smaller team that stays working on NMS is at least large enough to keep develop ing new content

people got so scared with the name of this update. But they say Our journey continues, so here's hoping 🍺

[wanton raft]

They still haven't given us the fancy new space stations for one thing.

[sleek siren]

still, 8 years of continued development and a decent sized player base is something even Todd Howard can only dream of

[sleek siren]

oh yea, i forgot that it was teased.
For sure we getting another semi large update soon

[wanton raft]

Would be cool if we got the ability to own and modify space stations. That seems like it may be a big rabbit hole though. Maybe just bigger asteroids and asteroid bases? Doubt that will happen either.

I think the main strength of NMS is it's mission system, so I hope they just keep making it better and better.

[solemn bane]

Well, I definitely agree with that last part

[wanton raft]

I play a lot of space games and most space games don't have very good mission systems compared with NMS.

Most are missing the story line and expeditions stuff which NMS has and substitute grindy level up style progression instead.

[solemn bane]

Oh, so you don't mean the way quests actually work.

[wanton raft]

Not saying the progression and leveling is bad. It's just not a substutue.

[solemn bane]

Because the quest interface in nms is just infuriating

[wanton raft]

Well, I've seen other games with more infuriating quest systems.

[solemn bane]

Thankfully I have not, but I don't play a ton of games (the games I play I just play a ton)

[wanton raft]

What part of it in infuriating to you? I'm sure I'll agree.

[solemn bane]

More than half this channel is issues with the quest UI/UX being confusing. There is absolutely nothing complicated about salvaging an interceptor, but walking people through it is a nightmare

Veterans don't even notice it, we get used to stuff like that after a while. We just think "oh, nms did the thing again, I'll fix it"

Like the constant quest flipping

[wanton raft]

Yeah, I agree with that, but I have to say that before they had the scanner mechanism for guiding you to targets, it was far worse!!!

[solemn bane]

And the lack of a way to really pin quests and see the progress of up to ~3 at a time is crazy. That's basically an industry standard.

Needing to select quests specifically out of the log before you can turn them in when you meet the requirements is another one

[wanton raft]

True. You always seem to be being nagged by the wrong quest! That's very anoying!

[solemn bane]

Yeah I don't doubt it was worse, lol.

I could go on and on. Eventually I'll get nit picky since this is what I do for a living, but suffice to say if I had to pick a least favorite thing about nms, it'd be broadly the ui, and more specifically the ui/ux around questing.

The quests themselves are simple, but they are made just nauseating sometimes by the system.

[wanton raft]

Seeing multiples somehow would be nice but it would present a big problem for people on a Switch!

[solemn bane]

They're used to it, lol.

But even if you could just really pin ONE quest it would be a huge improvement.

[wanton raft]

I'm hoping that we'll see a bunch of things come in Light no Fire which will get put back into NMS even if they slow down development of NMS.

[solemn bane]

I saw that and my heart sank. I'm not a big fantasy guy 😭

But yeah if they focused on survival and added that to nms, that would be incredible

[wanton raft]

Oh, I love when space and fantacy meets in games ... if it's done well. Big if, I know.

[solemn bane]

Oh yeah, space sci-fi + fantasy is the best. But fantasy alone, eh.

[wanton raft]

NMS has survival in some ways when you enable it, but I know what ya mean.

Well it looks like LnF will have tech and magic both.

[solemn bane]

nms has everything, but it's all incredibly shallow. Wide and shallow, that's nms. Lots of stuff to do, not much reason to do most of it.

[wanton raft]

I used to think that until I played Starfield and NMS looks better now. LOL!

[hazy sparrow]

I just got a new Community Mission. Is that something related to the ending of Omega or the regular community progress thing?

[wanton raft]

Elite Dangerous has the same problem.

[solemn bane]

Haha, I haven't touched StarField. I'm not a big story guy. I like more sandboxy stuff.

[solemn bane]

What is the mission?

[wanton raft]

Star Citizen is getting better and better. It has an advantage because it's all about multi-player.

[solemn bane]

I hate multiplayer too, lol

[hazy sparrow]

Not going to give Star Citizen a dime.

[solemn bane]

This is why I don't play many games, heh

[wanton raft]

I usually hate multi-player, but I like Star Citizen multi-player. There nothing like it.

[hazy sparrow]

Community Research - Gather Data for the Space Anomaly. Looks like the regular weekend progress bar, but why did it suddenly show up now? Says it's at 2%

[solemn bane]

Hmm, checking

[hazy sparrow]

And as expected, my Discoveries list is still borked. Guess I'm going to have to manually edit it.

[wanton raft]

Did it show up after the expedition ended. Haven't gotten in since the expedition ended.

[hazy sparrow]

Yes, I just logged in and it popped up despite me not being at the Nexus.

It was not there last night.

[solemn bane]

Yeah I see it too 🤔 Someone just datamined a few new crappy items, lol.

I wonder if this was launched on accident or something. Do they usually not announce things like this?

#no-mans-sky message

So it started as soon as the expedition ended

Here are the 3 datamined items. note, boring: #no-mans-sky message

[hazy sparrow]

My freighter changed position post-expedition also. though still in the same solar system. Everything else (borked systems list, pre and post expedition bases and stations) are as it was before the expedition ended.

[hazy sparrow]

Don't waste your time, doesn't really matter, was just wondering why it appeared.

[crimson rose]

The crew went for ice cream while you were gone

[hazy sparrow]

I hate it when they do that, there's already some in the freezer!

[solemn bane]

Oh it's mildly interesting to me, too. Plus my sleep schedule is messed up and clicking around in Discord is about all I can do, lol.

[solemn bane]

So you're saying your system list is still broken?

[hazy sparrow]

Sorry you can't sleep. I'm not going to try my edits this late, but I can't wait to try it tomorrow.
Yes, it still is only showing me current system + ones I visited as part of the expedition.

I have a writeup about what happened and how to undo it I will post after I've verified the fix.

The short is, all my pre-expedition SolarSystem entries in ::Store::Record disappeared.

Now I have to manually add them back by extracting them from an old save and appending them to ::Record, then incrementing the ::RecordStore counter accordingly.

[solemn bane]

Yeah as long as you have that old list I am fairly confident it's just a matter of injecting it into the right object

[hazy sparrow]

There are a few tools for extracting and inserting JSON data from save files, but not specific enough to search for given data elements.

[solemn bane]

I mean there's always notepad, lol

Just plug it in any old place, see what sticks

[hazy sparrow]

That's the conclusion @hollow shore came up with. They already extracted the ones with my username attached, now I just have to insert it and see if it works.

[solemn bane]

Just have to be warey of proper json formatting. One misplaced comma and the entire json file is disregarded as an error

You can put it through a json validator online to make sure

[hazy sparrow]

Yup, already have that in the instructions I will post, I just want to do it myself to make sure it works first.

I can't believe I am the only one affected by this and posting here about it.

[solemn bane]

Oh, and now that I built my save file extraction tool, I could make the fix automatically on my site if you tell me which property to read from and write to so we can help other folks

[hazy sparrow]

Great! I will follow up with you after testing the fix

[solemn bane]

You may be the only one who cares. We were all likely affected, but I just don't care about my past discoveries.

Well, I doubt you're the only one who cares, but you know what I mean

The nms veterans are used to losing system data, lol

[hazy sparrow]

Well, we do this right and we can have a fix for it!

[solemn bane]

Well, for this particular case. You may have noticed I was talking with someone in the other Discord about a tangential problem of losing system data when your log gets too full, and how the excess entries are removed in a seemingly random manner. It's not random, but it's not something a human could predict

Eventually I think they went with my suggestion to just manually cull the list to 1000 or so entries so they don't hit the limit and lose random systems they wanted to keep

[hazy sparrow]

But why only SolarSystem data? Or is it losing all planetary, flora, fauna, and mineral data for that system as well?

[solemn bane]

Personally I don't understand how the hell anyone could keep track of 10 systems, let alone 1000, lol.

[hazy sparrow]

My list was not that big, ::Store::Record is only 1305 entries. I had visited about 20-25 systems.

[solemn bane]

I honestly don't know too much about the problem, but if any info is in that list, and an item is removed, they will lose all knowledge they have ever been to that system. I would have to assume the scanning data is stored locally, so they would probably need to re-scan things if they went back there.

[solemn bane]

Oh no. I would expect the array to be the same size as the systems you visited. It may be way more complicated than I'm thinking

[hazy sparrow]

I will find that out, as I am going to only be inserting records of DT="SolarSystem"

Yeah, DiscoveryManagerData::DiscoveryData-v1::Store::Record stores records of multiple data types: SolarSystem, Flora, Fauna, and Mineral.

and ::RecordStore is a count of the number of objects in ::Record, so they have to match.

[solemn bane]

Ah, I bet the scan data is removed as systems are removed. I mean, if it were coded well, heh.

But your problem may be different. For example all your scan data may have persisted when you lost your system data, so it's just not connected to anything in the system json

Or not, who knows

[hazy sparrow]

If that was the case I would expect my post-omega ::Record to be much smaller than the one from my pre-Omega save, but it is not. It really seems to be limited to DT=SolarSystem entries.

[solemn bane]

Oh sorry, when I said removed I meant when you hit the size limit. Your issue seems more like a bug, so the data integrity is anyone's guess

[hazy sparrow]

Yep, from looking at intermediary saves, each time I switched between expedition and main saves, more got lost until they were all gone.

[solemn bane]

... ok that's even weirder

I would expect them to have all vanished at the same time

I can't even guess why they would slowly go away 🤔

[solemn bane]

Oh, how many systems did you visit in the expedition?

more than the 20-25 you had? If so it would be funny if it were overwriting them by their array key. As you discovered one on on the expedition, you lose one in th enormal save

That may also be why people with thousands of systems didn't notice. They only lost a handful of systems

[hazy sparrow]

If you want to start work on a tool to address issues like this, here's what is needed:

A way to extract DiscoveryManagerData::DiscoveryData-v1::Store::Record objects where DT:"SolarSystem" and USN:"<username>" into a temporary JSON file and keep a count of the number of objects extracted. Then a way to insert that to the end of ::Record (following proper JSON formatting with commas between the old list and the newly added objects). Finally, increment ::RecordStore with the number of objects you just inserted.

Edited to add one thing: when inserting the objects, you need to make sure it's not a duplicate first.

[solemn bane]

Aight well let me finish testing Utopia for offline play and I'll take a gander, unless I pass out which would be sweet

[hazy sparrow]

Once that is working, modify the tool to allow for other DT types and other entries regardless of username, though that latter part is risky since we did find incomplete data related to discoveries by other users.

[solemn bane]

But since I built the save extractor, json manipulation is pretty trivial.

[hazy sparrow]

Go start to wind down and sleep.

[solemn bane]

Oh I'm hosed. This happens sometimes. At some point I'll just snap back to a normal schedule

[hazy sparrow]

And send me a link to your save extractor. If it extracts JSON, it's just a matter of specifying objects and filters.

[solemn bane]

I pretty much just got up, lol. It's 9pm here

[hazy sparrow]

I retired from coding, but things like this get the itch going again.

[solemn bane]

https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/hglz4.html

It literally just decodes and converts the json, nothing else. It was a proof-of-concept for an in-browser save extractor I assumed I would have no use for.

[dim barn]

I didnt notice you can take the Photonix core off the runner, and it will add mroe to pulse on my main ship 😄

[solemn bane]

• wiggle power

[hazy sparrow]

Oh yes, I did that 6 times so I have 6 photonix cores for 6 ships other than the runner.

[dim barn]

Yeah, I wish I had more, but all in all, I use one ship for the most part

[hazy sparrow]

Same

[dim barn]

Sometimes another for a few other things

[hazy sparrow]

and with that message it's the 19th here now.

[solemn bane]

In my latest run I'm going to main ship the radiant pillar, lol.

[dim barn]

Pillar is a solid ship when you max it out

I always make sure I cap it in my runs, at some point

[sleek siren]

Radiant Pillar forever 🩷
I'm actually sad a few years back i deleted my old saves and ill never get to see a rasasama s36 again

[hazy sparrow]

Land it on the Anomaly and see if someone tries to trick you thinking you are a noob.

[solemn bane]

I hate multiplayer too, lol

I haven't seen another person in nms in years, lol.

[hazy sparrow]

Yeah I have MP turned off.

[solemn bane]

Wish I could say the same about IRL

I had to do jury duty recently. Worst multiplayer game ever.

[hazy sparrow]

@sleek siren I bet you could save edit to get the rassama s36 back. I remember that thing from my first game.

I wonder how many times they've changed the start ship? I wish they would give us more ship slots, 12 is not enough. I want Grand Theft Starship lol.

[sleek siren]

yup i believe some ppl got it more or less close to the rasa. but i just don't do save editing :/

lately one of the things that keeps me enjoying the game is ship hunting, and well, hunting for a rasa lokalike is a good goal

[hazy sparrow]

I love ship hunting, but alaas, with only 12 slots....

[sleek siren]

ugh... i know

i keep sttarting new saves though lol
currently enjoying my collection in the omega exp save

And i believe we've only changed starter ships 3 times

rasa was the original, then yakum something, which basically is similar to the pillar

[solemn bane]

I typically hate rng-as-gameplay, but I did like hunting for interceptors since they are all pretty interesting for a while

[sleek siren]

i actually wish they had switched starters again, but after all this time, prob never going to happen

[hazy sparrow]

Is there always at least 1 S-class interceptor on a populated dissonant world?

[solemn bane]

Probably random for each one you find

[hazy sparrow]

I never found one during the expedition.

[solemn bane]

I don't think I ever have

[hazy sparrow]

With all the comm beacons, I figure it would be marked.

[solemn bane]

I stopped caring about S class a long time ago though

[sleek siren]

funny story, on the last few hours of omega i was helping my friend complete the milestopnes, when he only had the interceptor one, i tried finding a diff system for him cause mine looked like crap, and literally his first interceptor was an S class

[solemn bane]

C is for challenge, heh

[sleek siren]

looking amazing to boot

[solemn bane]

lol, of course

The grass is always S class on the other computer

[sleek siren]

basically i snatched it for myself too, but it's a secondary save i only made to help him out cause i was done with expedition lol

[hazy sparrow]

Please tell me you dropped a beacon. Do you remember the name of the system?

[sleek siren]

i did not drop a beacon, but i have a screenshot of the system

[hazy sparrow]

A name or even better portal coords would be cool. Do you remember what Rdv point it was near?

[sleek siren]

let me get a screenshot of the interceptor to begin with, it might not be to your taste

[hazy sparrow]

Dinna matter, I'm in it for the discovery.

[sleek siren]

im not the best photographer but you get the idea

[crystal citrus]

how do I get the omega role?

[solemn bane]

#roles

[mortal shoal]

!exptime

[unkempt kraken]

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Expedition 12: Omega

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See Pins in #nms-expedition & run !Expedition in #bot-spam

[solemn bane]

Missed it by that much

[cerulean olive]

First expedition I've finished 4 times, lol. Twice on PS5 and twice on Switch.

[sleek siren]

Mazuna system

[hazy sparrow]

Thank you! Though I've got the address for tons from YouTube videos like HeRo4u, I've never found myself one of the insect wing ones. So that's definitely on my visit list!

Do you remember the name of the system?

[sleek siren]

:p

its actually pretty close to the starting system of the expedition

[hazy sparrow]

Cool, yes, I recognize those ending portal coordinates from the expedition. And sorry for not seeing the system name at the bottom of your image; it's late and I'm bleary-eyed lol.

Yep, only the first 5 are different from the starting system, so indeed very near.

Thanks, bedtime, the cats are in full f*ckwith mode to get my attention.

[dim barn]

I have a REALLY pretty greem/purple chonk of a sent ship, if you're interested

[eternal cargo]

Any news on a newer expedition.

[solemn bane]

Nah, they come weeks to months later with pretty much no warning

Or at least if there is warning, I have never seen it 😆

[crystal citrus]

danke

[solemn bane]

You're welcome, fellow Omeger

[sleek siren]

damn looking good

[dim barn]

Yes. Planet Greg, didn't disappoint

[eternal cargo]

I missed the previous expedition since now owning No Man Sky till now.

[solemn bane]

Over the years I’ve missed them because maybe I wasn’t in a No Man’s Sky mood or missed some news or something. I hate time-gated stuff, especially with how unpredictable these are.

[eternal cargo]

So true. I am not a fan at times for time gated content.

[eternal cargo]

Transformer ship. I was luckily enough to get it.

[fallen junco]

I dreamt that there was a new expedition. Turns out my brain just copied assets from polestar to create the "new" expedition. Gosh darn it subconscious.

I was convinced too

[crimson trail]

Will there be a new expedition soon?

[meager scroll]

Prolly not anytime soon

[crimson trail]

😦

[meager scroll]

Expeditions usually get rolled out after a major content update

And HG usually does not announce stuff beforehand

[crimson trail]

That is true

[fallen junco]

I want another chance to do earlier expeditions

[meager scroll]

!hg

[unkempt kraken]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[meager scroll]

Or if you just wanna get the rewards, look into using mods / save editors / service bot

[solemn bane]

Console player though :\

[fallen junco]

PS5 player here 😔

[solemn bane]

Yeah that's what I meant. I was gonna recommend a hack that let's you play old expeditions offline (with some caveats) but I saw the tags 😅

[grim fossil]

As long as you can play MP you can utilise the service bot https://nomansapp.com

Some consoles can save edit such as Xbox platforms and PS4.

Just some options if they appeal to you @fallen junco

[fallen junco]

Thanks for the recommendations. But it just feels wrong.

I don't want to risk anything by hacking.

375+ hours on my main save. I'll just wait for one of the expedition retries, if they ever decide to do one of those again.

[hollow shore]

Reminder that this channel is meant to discuss the expedition. Although fine to mention other options at times, a lot of the recent discussion likely better fits #nms-modding

[fallen junco]

Dude. You did all the expeditions. Some sick rewards?

[fallen junco]

The expedition is over though?

[hollow shore]

Ah, so no longer have to be on topic at all ?

[fallen junco]

No, but it is okay to talk about previous expeditions

I hope

[hollow shore]

Oh yes of course. I was just referring to some of the recent chat likely being best suited in #nms-modding is all.

[fallen junco]

Ah. My bad.

[solemn bane]

Honestly rewards don't mean much to me. I think all the appearance modifiers I use come from the core game, and I'm not big on overpowered items that everyone has. I just like expeditions. I took my time with them and spent about 90 hours on one save binging them after finding out about that hack. Definitely something that should be opened up to all players, especially since hg's attention is going to be diverted.

[hollow shore]

To be honest, I feel the new expedition terminus and context awareness actually opens up possibilities. Might be more to come with this just being a new first implementation with more to come when it comes to expeditions and possibly replaying old ones?

speculation though

[solemn bane]

Yeah that's my hope as well. It's pretty "simple" considering it's just a blob of json to set up an expedition. Most of the heavy lifting of making quests is already done - all they have to do is figure out what to do with the community research milestones.

[hollow shore]

You can even create your own custom expeditions the same way, but that's another topic 😉

[solemn bane]

Yep! Limited by the milestones we have available and the very limited logic they have (on some you can change the amount of stuff, that's about it). I think if they were to offer custom expeditions as a feature of the game they may need to beef the system up a bit. But considering Omega was pretty much just a rehash of old elements of other expeditions and people seemed to love it, I don't think it'd take much work.

But I think a large percentage of people are going for rewards, so some deeper gameplay mechanics will be necessary to make them more than "work" to get the cool shiny prize.

Also the canonical lore

[native veldt]

Since the omega exp ended did another take its place as the next expedition?

[grim fossil]

Nope, there isn’t one currently active.

And no, we do not know when the next one will be.

[native veldt]

Isn’t there to be an update for introducing a exp

[blazing fossil]

Maybe

Usually expeditions release alongside updates

[native veldt]

Okay

[distant parcel]

My desire to know more intensifies.

[solemn bane]

We're discussing it in #nms-modding, but suffice to say even if hg offers some sort of expedition builder, they would need to first create a quest builder. There's only so many times you can take a picture of 3 planets before it wears kind of thin.

[distant parcel]

Yeah, I switched over there and have been lurking. 😄

[flint jewel]

u can get banned on console for modding?

[fallen junco]

I don't know, but it's Sony 🤷‍♂️

[flint jewel]

real

[solemn bane]

To alter a PS5 game it would take some pretty crazy hardware hacks, and that would definitely be against the TOS.

[median hatch]

when i end the expedition, will anything apart from the tech and cargo i place in their slots be carried over? info about this is kinda thin on google

i pretty much started the game an hour or three before i went over to expedition so i don't really have a whole lot on the main save - no idea how things work when going back over to main save

[hollow shore]

There is a pin in this channel that fully describes the process.
But when you started the expedition from an existing save, what you pick to carry over during 'finishing' at the terminus, is what carries over. You also get some value out of the rest though.

[median hatch]

even if i never copied it over to the expedition?
big rip

[solemn bane]

I feel like you may have misunderstood something. When you end the expedition via the console in the Anomaly, you can choose what to send back to your main save, and you will retain your units, nanites and quicksilver, and you will also get some extra currency for doing various things.

After you end it, you can go back to the console and copy the ship and multi tool you had active when you ended the expedition

[median hatch]

i'm mostly concerned about the ship i got in the expedition and the multi-tool since what i had on the main-save have practically nothing - so, will those just be awarded as currencies or are those something i can export to the main save in stead of the ship and multi-tool i started the expedition save with?

[median hatch]

nvm this answered it. thanks!

[solemn bane]

Yarp. Interesting this was hard to find on Google. Seems like a pretty good seo opportunity 😄

[median hatch]

is it just the multi-tool and ship itself that i can import, or are the upgrades included?

[solemn bane]

The tech is copied over, but not the cargo

[median hatch]

awesome

but ye the googling largely just resulted in an extremely vague "you can import limited cargo and tech" but didn't go into specifics which is largely what i wanted specified, just didn't bother joining the discord until now to find the answer haha

[stone heron]

Yea googling stuffs for this game is …interesting

I came out of that with the knowledge that we only have 3 pet spots

[solemn bane]

Haha, I was about to say, it's definitely been hard to find accurate information, since this game has been through so much

[dapper jetty]

What’s the next expdtion gona be?

[solemn bane]

We won't know til it's here

[hollow fjord]

We get to go to the gek homeworld

[dapper jetty]

are we gona see enslaved korvax

[hollow fjord]

We're gonna see the forges they were melted to nanites in

[dapper jetty]

oh

I will avenge the korvax

[hollow fjord]

Nevah

[dapper jetty]

he he heh

[hollow fjord]

Actually gek are docile now

[dapper jetty]

i know

[hollow fjord]

Due to the whole thing

[dapper jetty]

there chill fr

[hollow fjord]

So they got their revenge

[solemn bane]

That's just ||what the gek who farted on you said||

Sorry that was a spoiler

[hollow fjord]

Yeah but remember nipnip, I have a feeling they have a lot of that in their vintage "teacups"

That's probably what makes them chill

I hear it's a depressant

[solemn bane]

Yeah til you try nipnipnip

[hollow fjord]

What's in the pots?

That's the question

[dapper jetty]

Definitely nipnip

[hollow fjord]

Them build tool pottery ones I mean

Yeah

[dapper jetty]

probably crushed up like tea leaves

[hollow fjord]

Yeah

Perfect for use in the teacup

[hazy sparrow]

Well, this is fun. I found out that, not only are all my solar systems missing from my discoveries list post-expedition, but every sector, solar system, planet, flora, fauna, and mineral is also gone! It's like Omega started me over.

[solemn bane]

So does doing this fix all the problems? Like is it just a matter of doing the work to make the new save file and the problem goes away?

[hazy sparrow]

No, don't bother. The tool needed now is one that can take two ::Store::Record collections and combine them but insuring no duplicates.

[solemn bane]

I mean that's just as easy

Scratch that, it's easier

Just need to know the from and to. And also I need to write my nms hz4 compressor, lol

[hazy sparrow]

Well, since most people will be working with a current save, the tool would need to be able to take a backup of a ::Store::Record object, loop through each DD object inside, make sure it's not a duplicate (I don't know what key you compare) in the current ::Store::Record, append it, and increment ::RecordStore by 1.

[solemn bane]

ok, I think the easiest thing is taking them both, smashing them together then making a reducer to get rid of the dupes, once I figure out how to identify them. Doesn't seem tough

[hazy sparrow]

Nah, iterating to remove dupes is more work

[solemn bane]

That said I may get stuck on the .json -> .hg part, so I may leave it for last

[solemn bane]

It's more work than figuring out how to do it and doing it? 🤔

[hazy sparrow]

That's the easy part; just work with the json then use a tool like NomNom to replace the text.

Either way you have to figure out how to identify a dupe.

[solemn bane]

Nah I'm doing this all in the browser. I'm pretty hard headed

[solemn bane]

Literally what I said 😆

[hazy sparrow]

but what's not making sense to me is why my pre and post omega ::Record are so similar in count!

If post omega lost so much data, it should be a lot smaller

[solemn bane]

The data was overwritten

Right?

That's why you incrimentally lost more data as you went on

[hazy sparrow]

No, I only went to about 8 different systems during the expansion. Pre-omega I had visited about 30 or so.

So some of the data is likely still there.

[solemn bane]

And you were flopping back and forth between main save and Omega save, right?

Haha, how about this theory: Each time you jumped back and forth, the keys from certain points were overwritten and reordered. So each time you flopped, it overwrote different data, then deduped the extra Omega entries, thus forcing your list to get smaller each time

[hazy sparrow]

Oh yea, I suspect that's what happened.

The real glitch is, when I return to "lost" systems, the data I "uploaded" should return...but it's not.

[solemn bane]

ok, I'm glad I didn't have to explain that one further. I'd have to whiteboard it

[solemn bane]

Hm interesting, so does it say you discovered the planets, etc?

As far as what you scanned, that is not sent to the server

[hazy sparrow]

I go into the solar system, it says discovered by me and the name is correct, but the planets are "unknown" until I land on them. but all the flora/fauna/etc. remain unknown.

[solemn bane]

Yep, that is the expected behavior

(assuming your save file lost info)

[hazy sparrow]

It has to be; I've landed on planets discovered by others and seen their goofy names for animals.

[solemn bane]

Could be it's just the goofy names are uploaded

As in, that is not what the game uses to determine if you have previously scanned something

Actually yeah, it's just like the planets you named

[hazy sparrow]

I name all my animal discoveries, it should have loaded for me. This was an early world, maybe I had not done that yet.

[solemn bane]

Can you upload your save somewhere so I can use it for testing? You're pretty much the only one who can tell me if what I did is correct

[hazy sparrow]

Yeah I've got a collection I sent to Devilin, I'll DM it to you.

[void sigil]

hi, i was wondering if someone has a tldr for the omega expedition lore, the last one that made sense to me was utopia, i have no idea what the point of omega was

[wraith junco]

#nms-spoilers

[void sigil]

cheers

[gilded oriole]

I already miss the expedition... lol

[leaden belfry]

wait, isn't this channel supposed to be archived after the expedition ends?

[wraith junco]

Soon*

[solemn bane]

I will never leave. I will never surrender.

[wraith junco]

There will be a rerun probably at the end of the year

[gilded oriole]

well I mean just in general. Not this one specifically. it gave me reason to want to log in and do something every day.

[wraith junco]

Oh ok

Yeah. For long time players there is not many things to do beside pause playing from update to update.

[solemn bane]

Or become a modder and make your own crap to do, lol

[wraith junco]

Consoles cant mod tho

[solemn bane]

Luckily just because you were born a console doesn't mean you have to stay that way.

[dapper jetty]

My parents aint let me get a pc

[balmy canopy]

When does the new expedition come out?

[hollow shore]

Nobody knows ... soon ™️

[latent onyx]

June prolly

[gilded oriole]

I'm wondering if maybe they will fill the space with a redux of one of the older ones first

[ashen shore]

I thought they only release a new expedition once at the beginning of every year and that's it

Am I wrong

[solemn bane]

Has the game been out 12 years?

[ashen shore]

Nms was released in 2016

[solemn bane]

Then it would seem you are wrong

[ashen shore]

I just looked up the date of nms release date

When the game was first released

Lol

The release date is correct

[solemn bane]

Yes

[gilded oriole]

they hvae been doing a few a year since the feature first released

[solemn bane]

Omega is the 12th expedition, in case that wasn't clear

[gilded oriole]

I think expeditions came out in... uh... 2021?

[ashen shore]

Obviously lol

Bro I've been watching nms videos since before nms was a big game like when it was first released

Waaay back

And I've kept a close eye on it

And it was only just last year I was able to get it because they released it on Nintendo switch

I believe the person i watched all those years ago who played nms waay back when it first hit public was Jason plays

If I remember right

[placid dew]

Here's hoping for the next expedition....

[fringe agate]

🔏 This channel will be archived soon, which means that it will be moved to our Archive channel category till the next expedition event. Future expeditions will continue to be announced as 📆 Discord Events and in #nms-announcements.

The channel will remain read-only in the meantime, so players can still reference expedition information in this channel.

Feel free to direct all NMS gameplay questions to #nms-questions. And for bug reports or suggestions to HG, run !HelloGames in #bot-spam for helpful links (also pinned here and in #nms-questions).

[blazing fossil]

Oh no

Well it was a fun go

🫡

[wraith junco]

Untill next time

[exotic timber]

🫡

[tender elbow]

[little robin]

[wraith venture]

!Expedition

[unkempt kraken]

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[blazing fossil]

[dry escarp]

yooo

opened

[keen bloom]

e

[bright lava]

Anyone know how I can get deuterium without asteroids?

[tired condor]

Happy travels

[dry escarp]

+1

[dry escarp]

okay, i found out, apparently this expedition has a custom crafting, just replace tritium with silicate powder

[bright lava]

Oh wow thanks

[glacial bear]

Interesting…

[neat mica]

What are the rewards like

[gusty crater]

what is this

[round pollen]

right when i was losing interest in this game, new expedition drops

[round pollen]

useless currently

i think it was part of the arg

[gusty crater]

its pretty good and a bit hard

ah ok yep

[keen bloom]

anomalous numbers station, it does nothing

[dry escarp]

finally free from those loud ass worms

[glacial bear]

For real

They’re like terrible in headsets

[round pollen]

booting up nms

letsa fucking go

[tired condor]

Did you guys start new saves or use current ones?

[gloomy reef]

they sound so cool tho

the worm

[naive ocean]

Is the expedition safe to start from my main save? I did that last time but I also saw people had issues with losing their main save due to a bug. Has that been fixed since the last expedition?

[tired condor]

Yeah I was advised to wait a few days I think I will

[gusty crater]

just make a backup

[naive ocean]

Dont know how i would do that on console

[gusty crater]

right good question

[tired condor]

Yeah it’s a pc thing

[lethal mantle]

New save, then claim awards on main

To be careful

[gusty crater]

Unless you have a SSD you can move the data on to then create a SSD image to restore later lol

[lethal mantle]

Ohhh, I do have an ssd attached

Nice idea

[naive ocean]

Im just gonna wait a bit theres plenty of time

[ashen shore]

I'm gonna just yolo it from my main.

[gentle solar]

How do i get tritium in the new expedition?

[naive ocean]

Thank you for your sacrifice

[ashen shore]

Started. LETS GO

[dry escarp]

use silicone powder instead of tritium in the crafting

[gentle solar]

ty

[remote thunder]

might be useful for those that would like to plan ahead a little, i'll add more tips as i go through this myself

[dry escarp]

cool to know that after i launched the expedition on my 700 hours save

fuck it, we ball

[ashen shore]

So it doesn't carry game type over my man is a permadeath and this is normal

[naive ocean]

Yea thats why im being careful, ive had my main save since launch 🥹

[remote thunder]

correct; doesn't matter what difficulty the primary save is

[cosmic plume]

Did I miss any announcement about twitch drops for this exp?

[remote thunder]

https://www.nomanssky.com/2024/05/expedition-thirteen-adrift/ i didn't see any mentioned here

[dry escarp]

how to make a back up? or since i launched the expedition i can't?

[cosmic plume]

I'm pretty sure you can freely go between the two at any point

unless you start a new game with the expedition, in which case it will be its own save file

[dry escarp]

okay, and how do i make a backup?

[blazing fossil]

And you can also freely switch between any save

[remote thunder]

doing this was one of the reasons that caused bugs with exp12, fwiw - hopefully those have been fixed

[cosmic plume]

ah thats fair, I did forget about those bugs

[remote thunder]

safest way to go about this is to simply start a new save for exp13

[dry escarp]

okay, but me no no wanna gather resources

[remote thunder]

all rewards that matter are unlocked account wide anyway

[naive ocean]

But you cant carry over quicksilver that way right?

[remote thunder]

quicksilver purchases are unlocked acct wide

[dry escarp]

they do?

[cosmic plume]

quicksilver does carry over. all currency does

[dry escarp]

since when

[blazing fossil]

simply don’t have anything to unlock with QS

[blazing fossil]

Always

[dry escarp]

i remember having to start over in quicksilver when my main save refused to be load in

[remote thunder]

no, not always

[blazing fossil]

Oh not always?

Oops

[gritty sedge]

I think Quicksilver the currencey is per-file?

[gusty crater]

What happens if i find a transmission tower in the expe

[remote thunder]

Frontiers update

[dry escarp]

anyway, where to find my save files so i can back up them?

[naive ocean]

If i start the expedition on a new save, will there be rewards to get from the expedition terminal like if i started from my main?

[remote thunder]

pc? type !faq-savefiles in #bot-spam

[dry escarp]

rainbow sky voting?

[remote thunder]

it will simply convert to a normal mode save when it's finished

[gusty crater]

#bot-spam ?

[remote thunder]

oops

[dry escarp]

i assume you meant bot spam

[cosmic plume]

this is correct. If you start a new game right now, you would have 0 quicksilver

[muted gull]

how did you guys get deuterium? I need it to fix the ship but I need to mine asteroids to find tritium XD

[remote thunder]

ty @dry escarp , @gusty crater

[dry escarp]

hell yeah, let me just type this command into ranbow sky voting

[cosmic plume]

taste the rainbow

[remote thunder]

powder+dihydro

[gusty crater]

Custom rec for expe, use silicate powder

[muted gull]

thank you so much ❤️

[ashen shore]

Oh cool I can return to my main

[indigo thistle]

powder?

[remote thunder]

silicate powder, gathered with terrain manipulator by deleting terrain (reminder: flatten mode works wonders)

[indigo thistle]

oh that powder ok thanks

[cosmic plume]

Flatten mode busted my landing pad on my main base. now my airships spawn inside my house

[karmic current]

Where do I find actived Cooper the in game guide system isn't helping

[wraith venture]

Expedition 13: Adrift

https://www.nomanssky.com/2024/05/expedition-thirteen-adrift/
|https://youtu.be/UVy8Wj0CdlA?si=jfKFQy9wSw7gC6Zi

[naive ocean]

Stormy planets that have it. When you scan a planet from space it should say

[gloomy moss]

Did it say stealth

[mellow badge]

I just got the 8gb update, gonna have more nms fun yya

[hasty sequoia]

If i remember correctly, planets orbiting yellow stars in the star map have activated minerals

[karmic current]

Oh thanks

[hasty sequoia]

i might be wrong tho lol

[karmic current]

That's what The in game system said 😭 but that ain't helpful

[gloomy moss]

Wait did it release with the trailer

[dry escarp]

did anybody got access to the anomaly already? im already hate searching for copper to get chromatic metal

[gloomy moss]

Pretty sure scanning one will always show if it has it or not

[hasty sequoia]

ohh sorry lol, it just means like on the map each star has like a different colour, yellow ones i think are where u can mainly find activated minerals but also stormy planets have them too! U can scan planets if u don't wanna land to search

[wraith venture]

Expedition 13: Adrift Rewards

Text file with full list of rewards (thanks to @remote thunder ), for those of you who like to plan ahead. We'll continue to pin more tips as our Atlas Emissaries and other community members provide more information.

[hasty sequoia]

I haven't played since before the omega expedition, i should rlly come back rn and check it out and start this exp :p

[karmic current]

I did after the first rendezvous

[mellow badge]

I forget the command to see expedition end date

[dry escarp]

so access can be gained, thanks

[cosmic plume]

stealth paint you say 🙂

[remote thunder]

!exptime

[mellow badge]

!exptime

[unkempt kraken]

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[karmic current]

Thanks!

I've been losing my mind

Good luck everyone with tge expedition

I'll probably be back again soon because I struggle allot

[mellow badge]

gonna only play this exp in VR

[hasty sequoia]

hehe np! I took a long break bc i restarted the story and i definitely went a little crazy at first

[gusty crater]

get ready to ||puke|| right off the bat

[gloomy moss]

That ship looks awesome though

I decided to not do the omega expedition and I regret that

[naive ocean]

It looks like the one from the mandalorian

[hasty sequoia]

same :(

[mellow badge]

so far, all my nms vr time has had no impact on motion sickness, got over that quickly playing Into The Radius and H3VR

[hasty sequoia]

wait which ship.. i love that series lol

[cosmic plume]

omega was awesome

[naive ocean]

Razor Crest

[mellow badge]

so far ive done every expedition, over half a did without realizing there was an nms discord

[hasty sequoia]

nonono i meant like which ship are u comparing the razor crest to😅 my b

[gloomy moss]

Expedition ships always look so different from the other ships

[cosmic plume]

the new exp reward ship

[hasty sequoia]

ohhh dam i shouldve paid more attention to the trailor i didnt even notice lmao

[gloomy moss]

I think a hauler

[naive ocean]

Oh the unique one you get as a reward i think. I havent started the exp yet though

[gloomy moss]

The ones with the hover things

[hasty sequoia]

ooo

[cosmic plume]

it kind of looks like a vulture from sc2

[hasty sequoia]

my nms crave is overwhelming rn✋

took like a 5 month break

[cosmic plume]

this is the way

[hasty sequoia]

this is the way🙂‍↕️

[gloomy moss]

After you don’t play for a while and you play again it’s just more fun

[hasty sequoia]

ikr!! plus so many players and that warms my heart

[gloomy moss]

Also now there is now

Which I am playing instead of normal nms

[static brook]

Am I only one hates starting planet in this expedition?

Never saw this level of chaos

[gloomy moss]

Oh yeah so it is out already

[gloomy moss]

The updates changed it from a buggy mess to a complete and really fun game

[hasty sequoia]

chaos? 0.o what kind of chaos

[remote thunder]

reminds me of expedition 4: emergence: titan worms everywhere, massive mountains - except exp4 started on a barren planet (aka desert), and this one is on a dead planet (aka low gravity 🥳 ) - getting to my ship was never this easy

[gloomy moss]

There is still some bugs from time to time though

[rain breach]

Is there anything with the Adrift update that isn't only for the expedition?

[remote thunder]

check official website update page, scroll down

[cerulean olive]

this expedition might take a bit longer than usual, lol

[hasty sequoia]

ikrrr!! i am always telling my gamer friends to plss try nms bc its so worth it, im so obsessed lol

[static brook]

Titan worm and titan worm and titan worm and titan worm and.... titan worm...

[radiant lotus]

Damn I need deuterium to fix my ship before I can even get into space 😭

[gloomy moss]

I just have to brush my teeth, make breakfast, and install the update

[remote thunder]

refine silicate powder+dihydro

[radiant lotus]

THANK YOU

[static brook]

Ah I also should include Earthquake and annoying Earthquake and another Earthquake and consequence Earthquake and continous Earthquake in this chaos

[hasty sequoia]

I keep wanting to say "see u guys there!" but no.. i will not

[remote thunder]

you can disable camera shake

[radiant lotus]

The game didn’t tell me that when I checked in the menu :((((

[unreal gale]

Is the expedition already active?

[gloomy moss]

Are you not playing it?

[hasty sequoia]

yus

[radiant lotus]

Yeah

[gloomy moss]

Yep

[remote thunder]

!exptime @unreal gale

[unkempt kraken]

@unreal gale
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[unreal gale]

Thank you, how long it'll last?

[hasty sequoia]

not rn, but also, if i was i wouldnt see u guys bc isn't it a lonely expedition lol

[unreal gale]

usual 8 weeks?

[remote thunder]

yes

[gloomy moss]

I currently really want to go play it but I still have to do a few things

I bet I can do it with 8 weeks

[hasty sequoia]

I have nothing to do yet cant find the energy to get up and play lol, i prob will in like 30 mins

[gloomy moss]

Especially if I don’t want all the rewards

Oh so you just woke up

Kinda like me

[blazing fossil]

!exptime

[unkempt kraken]

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[gloomy moss]

There are so many events happening for me right now it’s slightly hard to keep track

[blazing fossil]

Maybe switch will actually have time to play the exped this time

Looking at you Voyager…

[plush onyx]

are the monsters at the first rendevous glitched? is it only for me?

nvm it fixed itself

[radiant lotus]

I was fully prepared to spend ages digging through caves for tritium

[plush onyx]

how do you get permission to place a communication station at the first rendezvous? there are so many here

[naive prism]

protip: scale mountain on starter planet

[dry escarp]

be quicker then everyone else

[remote thunder]

yep, starter planet definitely looks like it's got some nice peaks, i'll be sure to try and land my ship on the highest i can find

[plush onyx]

TOO MUCH WORMS

[remote thunder]

they just want hugs

[plush onyx]

almost hugged me to death

[dry escarp]

i will bomb those worms

[blazing fossil]

Could someone in the expedition check what it says on galaxy map in place of galaxy and also what glyphs the starting planet has

[gloomy moss]

Do the worms even hurt you?

[dry escarp]

yes

[blazing fossil]

Leave Shai-Hulud alone

[dry escarp]

they can hurt you on the emotional level

[remote thunder]

glyphs, haven't left planet yet

[gloomy moss]

👍

[blazing fossil]

Thanks

[gloomy moss]

Even worse because I have a heart condition

[blazing fossil]

Anyone that’s left the planet?

[plush onyx]

Euclid Galaxy

[blazing fossil]

Oooh

[gloomy moss]

I doubt it’s a problem though

[blazing fossil]

I’ll check it out then

[ashen shore]

I'm not gonna speed this one

It's nice not having everything for once

[plush onyx]

me too i love spending half an hour looking for condensed carbon

[dry escarp]

phase 1 lesgo

[ashen shore]

This, but un-ironicly

[opaque pier]

Do i need to make a new save to partake?

[plush onyx]

no just go to anomaly on ur existing save

[opaque pier]

Sweeeet

[gloomy moss]

It's not like you have to buy a save with microtransactions

Wow a 14 gb update

[naive prism]

do we already have a fix on the robotic animals?

[fading python]

has aneyone beaten the expedtion already?

[naive prism]

probably

lol

[fading python]

wanna know how long it would take to speedrun it for a livestream

[gloomy moss]

This expedition is pretty much skyblock iron man mode

[gloomy moss]

Maybe...

[boreal violet]

Fix, whats wrong?

[remote thunder]

they mean coordinates

remember that robo fauna only spawns in uncharted systems

[boreal violet]

& 1 per planet?

[remote thunder]

well, at least in non-exp13 modes

[remote thunder]

2 per

[gloomy moss]

I wonder why the npcs already in a system didn't name the planets and stuff already

But they did create a bunch of stuff and make a space station

[golden dagger]

The expedition is completable without bringing anything right?

[gloomy moss]

Pretty sure

But I would bring some stuff

[plush onyx]

i brought nothin, i'm in phase 2 now, it's doable

[gloomy moss]

I am bringing launch fuel and antimatter stuff

[boreal violet]

They got Shaun snapped.... its like a Thanos Snap but 100% 😆

[gloomy moss]

I think I have a crap ton of launch fuel because I use a sentinel ship

[cloud igloo]

Any tips on getting Deuterium?
otherwise im jsut gonna hide in my starship forever.

[gloomy moss]

Just look deuterium nms up on google

Then click on the wiki

[boreal violet]

mix Silicate Powder & DiHydrogen

For Deuterium requirement

[remote thunder]

always is/are

[gloomy moss]

And find sources

[plush onyx]

can make it from silicate and dih

what the guy said

[cloud igloo]

with no refiner tho? i literally can't make one

[golden dagger]

starting the expedition without bringing anything. Wonder how hard it will be

[plush onyx]

u get the thing for a refiner as reward

[remote thunder]

install personal refiner mk2, p1m2 reward

[plush onyx]

follow the missions

[foggy fjord]

Anyone running expedition 13?

[gloomy moss]

A lot of people

[cloud igloo]

ah, thanks!

[boreal violet]

You unlock a mk2 refiner

[foggy fjord]

Yes alot of random thanks for clarification!

[gloomy moss]

I am going to do a lot of preparing for this

[foggy fjord]

Anyone wanna group up and run expedition 13?

[remote thunder]

try asking around #nms-lfg-or-trades

[devout estuary]

What happens to this expedition save when it ends, since the surroundings are different? I'm wondering if I should create a dedicated save like the old way

[boreal violet]

It's single player expedition

[remote thunder]

@devout estuary same thing will happen as with past expeditions that started a new save from scratch

[remote thunder]

wait so no grouping up?

[blazing fossil]

You’re fully alone

[gusty crater]

i think ive seen over 100 players

[blazing fossil]

Afaik

[boreal violet]

No it says in notes

[foggy fjord]

Single player expedition?I've seen 8 people on the starting planet?

[plush onyx]

try talking to them.

[remote thunder]

what i understood from patch notes was that there were no npcs for example - but that it was possible to meet other players

[keen bloom]

downloading the update

[boreal violet]

"Step into an empty universe, where you will find yourself surrounded by other Travellers… yet somehow still alone."

[foggy fjord]

Bunch if Russian and Germany :/

Thought I'd try here

[boreal violet]

Maybe you can then bk201

Just the way it was worded

[karmic current]

Whispering eggs anyone got any tips

[remote thunder]

@devout estuary !faq-expedition in #bot-spam ; but in short, when you complete and claim all milestones and phase rewrds, if there's still time left on the "server clock", you'll be forced to convert save to normal mode

[remote thunder]

starter planet had some

[karmic current]

Thanks

[devout estuary]

That's what I'm used to, yeah, I'm just wondering about the singleplayer aspect of this expedition

[foggy fjord]

No ncps it's a community universe you will come.across other players no ncps

[remote thunder]

that doesn't change anything in regards to the conversion/completion+end expedition mechanic

afaik - at least i didn't see anything that hinted at that in patch notes

[lethal mantle]

So like... why can't I install an anv mining laser lol

[foggy fjord]

If anyone wants to group up for the expedition lmk on for the day

[boreal violet]

"Though everyone will awaken on the desolate, worm-infested planet Iapezuk, you will not be together in the usual sense. The boundaries between realities have thickened. Communication is consumed by static. Even the usually-bustling Space Anomaly is eerily silent"

[lethal mantle]

Ha, nvm

Gotta claim it as reward in log

[ashen shore]

Off planet!

[boreal violet]

That text sounds like single player?

[ashen shore]

Did everybody get a shuttle or did I just get the cute ship

[boreal violet]

Yes shuttles 😆

[plush onyx]

i got a shuttle too

[remote thunder]

shuttle gang power 🦾

[blazing fossil]

Going to the expedition planet on a non expedition save now

[remote thunder]

probably wont have cursed dust

[blazing fossil]

Probably not

[blazing fossil]

But you never know

[plush onyx]

i got some of that, what even is it for

[remote thunder]

exp4 planets on normal mode didn't anyway

[dry escarp]

good thing that i still have this 😐

how do i get it again?

[plush onyx]

kill stuff i think

i just had it

[gloomy reef]

you can buy them at space stations

[plush onyx]

but i killed lots of STUFF

[remote thunder]

was needed for tech crafting - not sure if needed in exp13, not a bad idea to grab some (refines to goop?)

[burnt briar]

You need to find abyssal horrors iirc

[remote thunder]

abyssal horror shoot the eye when they gaze at you yeah

[burnt briar]

The analysis visor should point you to them

[blazing fossil]

Planet info

[burnt briar]

Ooh a wall

[dry escarp]

great tip

[opaque pier]

Is it basically starting again or will i keep everything ive got so far

[plush onyx]

i think i got it from worms

[ashen shore]

It's getting... spooky

[blazing fossil]

It looks pretty much the same as all the screenshots I’ve seen

[quartz sorrel]

Just in case you've not tried it, the doors in abandoned stations that normally need an Atlas Pass do not need them in this exp - lots of nice extra supplies

[dry escarp]

lie

you still need atlaspass

[gloomy reef]

thanks a lot :D i didnt even try

oh :(

[boreal violet]

All the rewards unlock across your saves

[remote thunder]

phase and final rewards are unlocked acct wide correct; check this post <#nms-expedition message>

[opaque pier]

So best to start a new save?

[boreal violet]

I do

[blazing fossil]

Operation go to space without ship on expedition planet has started

[remote thunder]

less chance to mess up primary saves, basically.

[quartz sorrel]

I don't have it and the doors opened? Same for another Traveller who went through?

[opaque pier]

Cool cool

[dry escarp]

i couldn't open doors in space station until i got the atlas pass from the terminus so one of us got a bug

[ashen shore]

I am literally staring at the door right now and it says Atlas pass required

[opaque pier]

So its just precautionary for permadeath saves then?

[quartz sorrel]

Ah right - it must be because I'm right handsome or something.

[opaque pier]

Or still chance to mess up my main save

[remote thunder]

to note, when i tried the feature - starting from existing save - it all was and went fine - but i didn't go back and forth between my exp run and the save i started it from, i only returned to primary after completing expedition run

[boreal violet]

Opposite side of abandoned station?

[opaque pier]

So i can start on my normal save without any issues to the save?

[boreal violet]

Just start a new one

[dry escarp]

can i find abyssal horror on every planet that has oceans?

[remote thunder]

ime, there shouldn't be any problems if you don't use the ability of being able to pause expedition progress and return to primary

[remote thunder]

yes, shouldn't be a problem

[plush onyx]

love how they gave me one singular spot there just to have a big ass scroll bar

[dry escarp]

that scared the shit out of me

[blazing fossil]

And I’m in space

Operation was a success

[cedar badger]

This milestone might be bugged.. dunno if anyone else is experiencing it but it keeps saying my inventory is full when it's even half empty.

[plush onyx]

can i take the stuff i get on the expedition in my main inventory? also can i take it selectively? i don't want to suddenly have a cluttered inventory

[plush onyx]

i have just finished it without issues, try reloading

[ashen shore]

Both sides inside the abandoned station

[remote thunder]

try ensuring that in your exosuit there's a grid of free adjacent slots - gosh that's an old screenshot

[gloomy moss]

Do they bite?

[tepid grove]

Can you pick up save beacons after they're placed

[remote thunder]

yeah, they sorta throw their bodies at you

[severe scaffold]

is it possible to get to the anomaly?

[remote thunder]

yes

[cedar badger]

I reloaded and this is what my inventory looks like.
Still says it's full.

[gloomy moss]

That's not biting so I'm safe

[tepid grove]

For me they just constantly scream at me. Although very quiet they still scream

[remote thunder]

are you on foot? try getting in your ship?

[cedar badger]

Yep, tried that too.

[remote thunder]

if you started from existing save, you'll be given the chance to place items in the terminus stash to bring back to main; once you're back in main save, you'll also be able to copy the ship and MT you had active in expedition

[plush onyx]

what does MT refer to?

[remote thunder]

multitool

[ashen shore]

Thank you for reminding me that I needed to clear a ship spot

[dry escarp]

there is 12 spots right?

[remote thunder]

right

12 ships, 6 tools

[dry escarp]

getting slim, they should increase the hangar space again

[long talon]

Y'all may be a stupid question where do I find deuterium.

[dry escarp]

refine it from silicate powder and dihydrogen

[snow bobcat]

first on 3rd randev i suppose!

[long talon]

Thx man appreciate it

[plush onyx]

do you keep the new blueprints after the expedition ends?

[snow bobcat]

no

you can bring back saved tech

[granite spindle]

It's been all of half an hour and this might be my favorite expedition so far. Love the horror atmosphere and resource mangement on the first planet.

[remote thunder]

heavily drawing inspiration from exp4, i love it

[naive prism]

lot of milestones are easier in the 1st system

[plush onyx]

where do i find whispering eggs

do all planets have them?

[remote thunder]

starter planet had some

normally only infested and dead biome planets will have them scattered around

red egg icon on visor

[gloomy moss]

There is a titan worm burrow right next to my ship

[gilded patrol]

whats the best way to find Atlantideum for the expedition? or do i just have to search for corrupted sentinels randomly

[remote thunder]

simply find a dissonant planet; atlantideum crystals will be all over

[gloomy moss]

Don't kill corrupted sentinels destroy the pink crystals

Also will the titan worm burrow next to my ship kill me

[remote thunder]

won't 1 shot you if that's what you're wondering about

[gloomy moss]

How many hits from one to die

[remote thunder]

i've never died from baby worm attacks

[gloomy moss]

Also it's gonna be really hard to get carbon here

[remote thunder]

keep an eye out for red small ammo boxes and carbon crystals and o2 plants

[dry escarp]

is this how it's suppose to be?

[foggy fjord]

The low gravity is actually pretty neat feels more immersive

[wraith token]

Any guides for this?

Or a list of what to bring?

[remote thunder]

very likely; remember to make use of spoilers as well

[remote thunder]

not yet

expeditions pretty much always have the same core gameplay

in exp13: refine silicate powder+dihydro for deuterium

[wraith token]

Any special items is should get

[wraith venture]

We'll keep pinning info and tips as they're shared by our Atlas Emissaries and the rest of the community

[remote thunder]

deuterium for example

[wraith token]

Thanks

[blazing fossil]

Have fun!

That’s my tip

[dry escarp]

i thought as description of the channel is "Spiler Aler- Community exedition event discussion" there is no need to tag as spoilers?

[blazing fossil]

(As someone who has yet to play the expedition)

[wraith token]

I'll bring deuterium items

[remote thunder]

yeah, but idk, feels that there's going to be players here who haven't yet gotten to that part

[spring bone]

Where do we find deuterium? I cant seem to figure it out

[wraith token]

Make it

[remote thunder]

refine silicate powder+dihydro for deuterium

[wraith token]

.

[limpid swift]

||Easiest way to find crashed ship and robot fauna?||

[spring bone]

thank you!

[wraith venture]

this is a good pin to review too, for general expedition tips... #nms-expedition message

Or run !Faq-Expedition in #bot-spam

[wraith token]

I haven't played the game for like a month what's sillicate powder

[dry escarp]

i was just asking if that was a bug, i once got teleported to space and died in an expedition so i didn't know that it was how it's suppose to be

[remote thunder]

nah that feels like it's intended, similar to how it happens in main storyline

[neat latch]

That is absolutely correct but there’s also a sense of courtesy 🙂 many players aren’t able to play the expd becuase it’s not released on their drvices. So it’s a good practice to keep some things under spoiler tags to prevent major reveals.

[remote thunder]

delete terrain with terrain manip

[lyric roost]

Resource you get from using the terrain manipulator to mine normal ground

[wraith token]

Oh that one

[gusty crater]

best way to find a tall mountain?

[lethal mantle]

First warp, let's gooo!

[unkempt isle]

how do i get deuterium?

[lethal mantle]

Refine silicate and dihydrogen

[unkempt isle]

right, thanks

[remote thunder]

the way i usually do these milestones is after i get access to a ship that can fly, then off to find a planet with mountains big enough - starter planet looks like it can work

[gusty crater]

starter is very far away now