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[solid hawk]

#nms-commands

[buoyant abyss]

fuck sorry wrong channel could have sworn i was in commands

[solid hawk]

It's ok, happens. 🙂

[buoyant abyss]

I cant work out how to find my save file with this one

[graceful egret]

what you guys use for modding i just started out and i heard nexus/vortex was a good one

[solid hawk]

NMS mods are only at NexusMods. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently

[graceful egret]

oh alr

if i use mods can i use my old save file or do i have to make a new one

[solid hawk]

Can use existing save

[graceful egret]

ok

[solid hawk]

Mods cannot directly make changes to save data

[solid hawk]

Browse button

[pallid salmon]

#nms-modding message

[graceful egret]

another question but with modpacks it tells me to have a certain version of nms how do i change versions

[fresh arch]

you do not

you find mods that are compatible with latest game version and use those

January 2025 is when HG changed the modding system completely, any mod that wasn't updated / released past that date will have 0 chance to work with current game

[solid hawk]

The "modpacks" or collections as they're called aren't wildly popular for NMS. Not well curated or maintained, most containing broken mods.

You are much better off selectively choosing the individual mods which appeal to you.

[fresh arch]

👀

[green meadow]

are there any guides that help with how we can export assets from NMS into blender, make something, then import that back into the game?

i'm specifically trying to jerry rig corvettes, if that helps

[final hazel]

Do you mean actual models, or just the base building plugin?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/984

[green meadow]

as in, i want to design a corvette using in-game assets, in blender, and then import that into the game, if that makes sense

[final hazel]

That makes sense, as the base building blender plugin is designed exactly for that and has lots of documentation on how to set it up and use it

[green meadow]

is the base builder plugin different from the NMSDK and NMSSE programs?

[final hazel]

Yes, if it wasn't then it wouldn't have it's own NexusMods page.

[green meadow]

fair nuff

thank you

[buoyant abyss]

yea i get that bit but I cant find my save file

[pallid salmon]

if you can't find it type %appdata% into your windows search bar
it will open the folder that contains the HelloGames folder which contains your save, find the st_1234567890 and copy the file path to that

[buoyant abyss]

alr ty

[buoyant abyss]

I cant find the st bit

see hello games

which tales me to NMS

to default user

to cache

then to 3 files intro feed json intro feet mft and season data

nvm found it it was in local not roaming

[pallid salmon]

weird, default is roaming

[buoyant abyss]

yes thats what I thought but its not in there

[calm cove]

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[final hazel]

Do you need something?

or are you trying to trip the spam filter?

[solar smelt]

they play on switch so if they did its not like we could help them much

[green meadow]

heyo, is it ok if i ask a few doubts regarding corvette building in blender here?

[final hazel]

Probably

[green meadow]

so, i made my first blender corvette, and some parts, the images i'm sharing, aren't exactly loading where and how they should

but this is how i placed them in blender

[final hazel]

Maybe it's a difference of how the blender thing renders them

you could ask for assistance in it's home discord server, but that might take a bit

!djmonkeytoolslink

[hardy aurora]

https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/DjMonkeyUK/mods?gameId=1634
https://discord.gg/ucBhfd2vK9

[green meadow]

will do. thank you

[ocean pine]

is there any kind of save editor to complete all main storyline missions?

[slender crow]

I got NMSE working on Steam Deck so if anyone needs that guide I can try and help

I did do it in a very backwards way because I didn't know how but it works! It is a functional way to use the save editor on deck

[solid hawk]

Any in theory can, but it involves editing via raw json and the missions aren't labelled in an obvious way. There's info on doing this on the Creative and Sharing DIscord, in stickies of this channel

[trim flame]

Anyone know if the custom freighter mod with the Star wars designs is working rn cuz I read the comments and they all talka bout how they hope he can fix it soon

[solid hawk]

It's not

[trim flame]

dang

[trim flame]

U know any good mods I should downloard?

[solid hawk]

Whatever appeals to you. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently Anything older than 29 January 2025 will 100% not work.

[lament aspen]

is there a mod that will let me export my corvette as a model?

[solid hawk]

Your corvette is stored in your game save. Mods cannot access game save data, so not possible.

[gusty flower]

im first trying this game, any QoL mods that i should 100% use??

[final hazel]

I recommend a bunch in my collection https://www.nexusmods.com/games/nomanssky/collections/ixxnzr, but there's a lot more outside of it depending on what you seek https://www.nexusmods.com/games/nomanssky/mods?sort=updatedAt

[gusty flower]

i just try to have the vanilla experience but maybe with better perfomance and grafics, but my gpu isnt that great tho

maybe new items/mobs/things are great too, i dont mind

[final hazel]

that's pretty much what mine is, maybe minus the performance but the game feels a lot better when it isn't pausing every time you alt tab

[gusty flower]

ohh

nice then

[lament aspen]

sad

is there a way to theoretically get the corvette part models and just piece it together maself

[buoyant abyss]

okay so can a save editor do it?

[gusty flower]

@final hazel sorry for the ping

but, your modpack asks for more perfomance?

[final hazel]

If you enable the optional mods, yes

mainly FineLOD and the grass render distance one

[gusty flower]

those are..

[final hazel]

and possibly the 4k clouds one but it's one texture reused across up to 6 planets

if you're worried about that, there's a 2k option

[gusty flower]

hmm, i see

im downloading all

how do i know

that the mods work

[final hazel]

By if the game displays a mod warning on startup (which means that folders are in the GAMEDATA/MODS folder) and that the mod's individual effects are present

[gusty flower]

yeah they where not

[final hazel]

When I first installed Vortex, it placed the mods in GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS, which is not the mod folder location for modern NMS

[gusty flower]

D:\steam\steamapps\common\No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\MODS here?

[final hazel]

See http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550 for correct mod installation location and procedure

[pallid salmon]

if you installed your mods correctly you can try deleting CGMODSETTINGS.MXML in No Man's Sky\Binaries\SETTINGS

[gusty flower]

so, let me be clear

i downloaded the mods

it shows that the mods are downloaded, somewhere

i need to press something here??

if i open game mods folder it shows no mod inside

They are in the mod staging folder

i need to move then to the game mod folder?

or that will break?

[pallid salmon]

afaik most ppl use mods for nms don't bother using vortex, since it seems to not work correctly a lot of the time, and it's not like installing mods manually is that hard
this is how the file structure should look, "Exocraft Overhaul" in this example has been extracted from its zip file into the MODS folder
(globals and metadata in this example are mod specific, other mods will have other things)

[solid hawk]

Only way maybe possible is using the NMS Base Builder plug-in\app

[gusty flower]

wait

i closed all

and open it again

and worked like a charm

idk why idk how

but when i pressed (again) deploy mods, it deployed

[placid mauve]

sorry if it's a trivial problem, I'm a bit of a noobie. Has anyone gotten mods to work on linux? I've tried downloading any mod from nexus and as long as there is any single mod inside MODS, the game crashes. I also tried deleting the mod settings file but that didn't help

[fresh arch]

modding on Linux works the same way as on Windows PCs

copying the mod folders into dedicated MODS folder

if you try to run an outdated mod, game might crash

[placid mauve]

hmm, I only got ones from the new releases section

[fresh arch]

if you're new to modding, recommended to stick to newly released and recently updated mods

which one? you can share the link here?

[placid mauve]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/4201

and this one updated on 24th April
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/4169

[fresh arch]

that's just texture replacement, 0 chance its causing crashes

should be still fine

[placid mauve]

that's weird because I tried both on their own and the crashes persist

[fresh arch]

post screenshot of MODS folder

you can use #nms-media channel and link it here

[fresh arch]

does the game crash with no mods present in the folder?

have you tried to create a new save and see if that loads up fine?

[placid mauve]

nope, the moment I remove this folder it works

[placid mauve]

the game crashes before any screen pops up, should I still try?

[fresh arch]

hard to say, downloaded both mods and game starts just fine

both existing and new save

I suspect there might be an issue with the game installation, since both these mods should not cause any issues

[placid mauve]

makes sense. I will try to empty the proton prefix. Thanks for the help

[rotund quartz]

this hasnt done anything to my corvette building

or my base building

its installed to nexus mods

[fresh arch]

post screenshot of the MODS folder

[fresh arch]

I dont know about Vortex, its recommended to do manual installation

unpacking the mod folder into dedicated MODS folder

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550 - see this article for details

make sure you put the correct folder in, without the extra numbers at the end

[solid hawk]

Yep, the mod folder is one level too deep

Bad extraction

[rotund quartz]

i cant open that link for some reason

but 1 too deep so the file needs to be in nomansky not in mods?

[fresh arch]

maybe this link will work: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18k5VfvzLXbpBrAGGO7LK30c2Ta_lWQ5F5YgEpuwKZ6M/

maybe something funky going on with link shortener used

we don't know what "nomanssky" folder is, we mod authors usually don't deal with Vortex

[solid hawk]

This is the bit in the doc that covers your issue

[wheat lake]

Any mod recommendations?

Rn I use the fast interact mod and the Holo arena table builder but that one doesn’t work

And buy starships parts from terminal

[rotund quartz]

so this is the folder vortex puts mods in

when i follow manual method and were to put it and extract this is were

i tried changing the staging folder to the second too

everythings normal still

[fresh arch]

make sure you put the correct folder in, without the extra numbers at the end

you need _Beyond Base Building in your MODS folder

not _Beyond Base Building With A Bunch Of Numbers At The End

this extra folder messes up with structure of game files, game does not see them, game does not apply them over vanilla files

also refer to the image Babscoole posted, shows the good structure of files inside MODS folder: #nms-modding message

[rotund quartz]

thank you so much

[gaunt star]

Modding skybox into this would be amazing

use this texture https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso0932a/

[solar smelt]

Honestly not too sure why pretty much all mods are packaged like this. The solution to it takes like 10 seconds and is super simple yet mod authors leave as is, although I suppose it is the user's fault for not reading the guide to solve the problem themselves.

[fresh arch]

issue is different mod authors use different apps to compress / archive mods to upload them to Nexus

and different players use different apps to unpack / extract mods into their PCs which handle these archives in different ways

hence general recomendation for manual mod installation - extract, copy and paste the mod folder manually into MODS

[vestal breach]

That looks beautiful

[solar smelt]

Can windows 10 not extract/archive files on its own? Or is that just windows 11?

[pallid salmon]

windows 10 can extract on its own yeah
I'm pretty sure it's less reliable/advanced than like 7zip tho iirc
for 7zip when extracting there are two options, extract files & extract here: if the mod is zipped correctly extract here is the correct option

[solar smelt]

kk

[solid hawk]

Go for it, no one else will

Considering skybox is mostly shaders, should be especially nightmarish

[vale iron]

Staging is a holding place, not where vortex thinks the mods should go. You need to deploy the mods to copy them from the staging folder to the game folder

[vale iron]

It's not a packaging issue; the contents of the archive do not have that folder with all the numbers at the end. It's an unpacking issue; the user is unpacking in such a way that the contents are being put inside another folder.

[solid hawk]

As far as the downloaded zip having the long string of numbers, this isn't done by mod authors, it is done by NexusMods.

[solar smelt]

The way I package my mods makes it so they can't package into another folder. I tested the same extraction method on both my mod from nexus and someone else's mod and their's unpackaged into a new folder whilst mine didn't. Considering one way makes it impossible to fail, I would consider that the correct way to package it, but thats also not to say that the normal way is wrong since it works only if you extract it right.

[pallid salmon]

I just tested it and default windows extract actually extracts it wrong, puts it inside another folder
7zip ftw ig
don't know how winrar differs

[final hazel]

I still extract stuff with windows cuz of bad experiences of "Extract Here" filling my downloads folder with the guts of portable programs

even tho that wouldn't happen if I simply don't press that

[pallid salmon]

I get that yeah

[vale iron]

But they aren't packaging into another folder. The contents are the mod. If you're saying that you don't have a mod-name folder, then you're just exchanging one possible problem for the other, only your possible problem occurs when people don't "extract the contents to the MODS folder"

If you're packaging without a mod-name folder, then extracting the contents to MODS will put the files in the root and they won't work

[solar smelt]

I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that if I extract specifically to the mods folder with no steps between it will work flawlessly? I'll re-read the doc on how to extract real quick

[vale iron]

Extract contents is how I wrote it

[pallid salmon]

for instance this is correct zip structure (before extracting)

[solar smelt]

When I download a mod I just hit Extract All and then use what it gives me. Usually, makes that extra folder I need to drag the inner folder out of and into the Mods folder

[solar smelt]

The game can't read Zip archives I thought?

[pallid salmon]

before extracting, it's just in that folder for show

[solar smelt]

hold on a sec

[solid hawk]

Correct, the game won't see .zips

[vale iron]

This is how we package mods and vortex uses them properly this way:

[pallid salmon]

default windows extract doesn't extract correctly for nms mods

[solid hawk]

That's just a poor default setting that windows built-in zip has

[vale iron]

The contents is the mod-name folder. Some people do it manually and don't understand what the contents are and do it wrong

[solar smelt]

First image extracts into second image because of the way I packaged it, which the second image works

[vale iron]

You can also just go into the zip, control c, go to mods, control v

[solar smelt]

don't see a need for the folder inside the zip folder, unless that screws up 7zip or something

[pallid salmon]

when using 7zip choosing extract here on a mod that's been zipped correctly will do it right
but as Gumsk said it's how vortex needs it ig
also, having the numbers is just ugly imo

[vale iron]

It will screw up vortex, I'm pretty sure, and we would need to rewrite the document, and we wouldn't be able to immediately tell that someone installed correctly if they have a bunch of junk at the end of the folder name

[solid hawk]

That's how the game works. Must be in a sub-folder within MODS for the game to see and use.

[vale iron]

I think I use windows zip and don't have a problem, but I can't remember the menu and am away from home for a few more days

[solar smelt]

If it screws up vortex then that's a good reason. I wouldn't have guessed because I don't use vortex

[pallid salmon]

the default windows unzipper unzips inside a folder of the same name
same function as the extract files... option in 7zip

[solid hawk]

Changing, to not have a mod folder within the zip, to cater to windows build-in zip would completely mess up with every other archive program out there, both windows and other platforms.

People who have this issue are the minority of mod users.

[vale iron]

I just know that the way I pack mods works with vortex for me. Some people report problems, but I've never been able to figure out why. I believe vortex would take your mods and dump them in root

[solid hawk]

Either way, it's going to mess up for somebody. Simply a matter of whether it messes up for the few or the many.

We prefer the few.

[vale iron]

Are there not two options when you right click on a zip in windows? Wish I was at home

[pallid salmon]

for me at least on win10 you can see it above 7zip just extract all

[solid hawk]

I'd personally rather help a handful of people troubleshoot this issue per update cycle, than a few thousand. 🙂

[vale iron]

Ah I'm on 11, might be different

I might also just be going into the zip and copying the folder out because I know how it needs to be

Maybe I should put a comment about default windows behavior

[pallid salmon]

honestly tho half the time I won't think about it and click extract files on 7zip instead and have to move it out anyways lol
plus if someone zipped their mod wrong...

[solid hawk]

That's what the document is for. 🙂

[solar smelt]

Ok so it doesn't want to extract with 7zip but works fine with windows 11/winrar

[vale iron]

That's what I meant, in the document

[pallid salmon]

in the document!!!

[vale iron]

I'll think of phrasing. I think I can do that from my phone

I won't be able to add screenshots, but might not be needed

[solar smelt]

Way more convenient if extracting without sub-folders but I guess its better that people can use 7zip

[solid hawk]

Has to be in sub-folders. Game will not use game folders\files in root of MODS.

[solar smelt]

Maybe I used the wrong term because my files work fine as mods for the game

[pallid salmon]

well they're moreso saying that if extracting the other way, the extraction will use the zip file name as the folder name and it'll function the same
but if you zip that way and extract the (normal? idk) way then it'll mess up
this doesn't take into account vortex

[solid hawk]

Again, majority of people have zero issues, as things are done now. Changing it, MANY more people will have issues.

Damned, to some extent, either way

[pallid salmon]

well you either extract and it potentially spews the contents out in your mods folder and you have to make a new folder for it
or
you extract and it's potentially a folder too deep (current way)**

[solar smelt]

I guess I should specify what I do is right click to make an empty zip folder and then drag the unzipped folder contents into the empty zip and ship the zip folder. I only do it this way because hitting the Compress to Zip file button created that annoying new folder inside. I didn't know it wasn't compatible with all file extractor apps so I considered it better this way. Thanks for pointing out those problems.

[solid hawk]

Just had a little back and forth with a particular new user of a mod, because he didn't like how it was packaged with multiple variants in a single zip. Extensively documented on the mod page to use only one variant. He wanted each variant to have it's own download. 1) As mentioned well documented in multiple places on the mod page, just have to read 2) Mod has been used by thousands, with one dissenter. 3) Splitting up like he wants takes my time to update the mod from two minutes to over twenty minutes. As a one off, not such a big deal, but in the grand scheme, updating and maintaining over years, incurs a massive unnecessary time expenditure.

We do what we do to cater to both the majority of users and as authors to our needs as well.

[vale iron]

For exmls, I split them up so they can be used with vortex, but anything that would require frequent updates I would definitely put all in one zip

[vestal shore]

is there a mod that adds more in-depth star filters on the galaxy map? and/or a mod that makes planet atmosphere color more obvious in the star system menu?

second one's not as clear so I can explain it better rq

let me grab a screenshot

[final hazel]

We can't add new functionality at all, so no. At best, we can make existing elements more clear, and HG assigned outlaw systems their own color in the conflict filter but it's the same as high conflict systems in the vanilla game

And planet atmo color isn't shown at all from the system details menu, to my knowledge

[vestal shore]

yeah it's just all white rings

super annoying

[final hazel]

We can't add new things that don't exist normally

[vestal shore]

having to fly to every possibly suitable planet only to see a tinge of red and know that the mostly blue look from space was a lie

[final hazel]

!hg

[hardy aurora]

Submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[oblique hawk]

Anyone willing to bless me with a holo arena battle table at my base or on my corvette?? Pls 🥹

[solid hawk]

No, nor is this the channel for such. Try #nms-lfg-or-trades

[void marsh]

hey how would i change textures, do i make a file named mods in gamefiles/pcbanks? or just paste it in

[pallid salmon]

mods do not go in pcbanks anymore
follow modding guide for general install http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

[void marsh]

ik that much but i need help with PAK files

i know thier like ZIP files but i need to know how to decompress them and use them

[pallid salmon]

unless there is something specialized with textures involving pak files that I'm unaware of, vast majority of no mans sky mods aren't pak files anymore
if it's older than jan 25 2025 then it will not work

[void marsh]

november 2025 was the release

[pallid salmon]

link it

[void marsh]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2934?tab=files

i wanna get rid of those damn lines as AMUMSS refuses to work for me as the wording is horrid to understand

[pallid salmon]

the mod you linked doesn't have any pak files in the download

[void marsh]

it does

its foldered

[void marsh]

but how would i use EXML files then?

[pallid salmon]

if you read the modding document that was linked you would know...

extract the zip that's downloaded to GAMEDATA/MODS
if it extracts a folder too deep then just move that out to MODS, there are some inconsistencies with unzipping tools

[void marsh]

alr done btw do you have any good immersion mods for me to try?

[pallid salmon]

I'm not the right person to ask about that, don't really use any

[solid hawk]

Mods for NMS are highly subjective. What one person would like, another would hate. Best off just browsing though based on what you want to see changed.

[deft onyx]

my nms is stuck at 72/30 fps on screens and in game, sometimes 20

this is new, what can i do to fix it?

[deft onyx]

i play with a pack that makes the game super pretty and kill me in a few hits

thats my version of immersion

[round sinew]

i've saw this issue with another player recently, and in the end it turned out to be a mod (i dont know which one, i let the player figure that part out on their own)

[deft onyx]

it wasnt a mod, per say, it was running all the same mods and it was at a certain amount, then i used some programs, came back, and bam

[round sinew]

might also be because of having a large amount of mods yeah

was about to say

[round sinew]

stuff like rtss, afterburner can set frame rate limits

another thing is low latency on nvidia control panel (should be off)

[deft onyx]

large amount of mods likely, so u think maybe. ah low latency as well ill try that

i enabled gsync from loseless scaling

[round sinew]

yeah, large amount of mods could be doing it

[deft onyx]

and thena few times later

bam

[round sinew]

gsync could also be related

[deft onyx]

turning off gsync hasnt fixed it thp

[round sinew]

especially if you got vsync enabled elsewhere

[round sinew]

i'd start here

[deft onyx]

ah low latency was somehow on custom

50 pence said its likely that

[buoyant abyss]

anyone know why whenever I use the save editor+ creature creator to add a fauna i created into the game the fauna just doesnt exist when I load in

its not like the game delegates the fauna

its still in the files

just doesnt appear in game

[round sinew]

@deft onyx i went back to search for posts from that other user, and they also found out that if they took out all mods, started game, save+quit, enable mods again - it works good

[deft onyx]

thank you. low latency was on custom inside nvidia control

its at 144 now

i also installed riva statistics tuner just in case

[deft onyx]

but ya tyyy

[solid hawk]

save-editing is covered here too, just not so common to have a save-edit guru swing by here

[solid hawk]

Not familiar with the save editor+ creature creator, but sounds like something may be wrong with it or its' output. May want to ask the developer of the tool.

If the tool hasn't been updated in a long time, probably abandoned and broken.

[round sinew]

maybe try a diff save editor?

looks like they're using nmsse

hasnt been updated to xeno-arena afaik

perhaps try nmse?

[buoyant abyss]

I got it working in the end idk why it was having a fit i was using goatfungus and also the creature creator to create the code i needed for it and the game just refused to read it

I think i ended up using nose as that gives u to options to edit it within the software instead of importing code in

[deft onyx]

i accidentaly deleted my version.dll from nms

anyone have a current version?

aha pun

[final hazel]

Just verify file integrity

[deft onyx]

didnt work

[final hazel]

Well there aren't any files in my own install called version.dll

[deft onyx]

oh, wonderful

[final hazel]

maybe it was something for a previous version of NMS

[deft onyx]

yea its from an fsr thing but i screwed it all up

time 2 reinstal lol

[pseudo wren]

just checked in my files too and i dont see a version.dll, im on steam though not sure if that matters

[final hazel]

or might be something AMD GPU specific

[spice geyser]

anyone know what these are and if I can just delete them when editing a ship?

something called ^BIGGSCONNECTOR and one called ^U_PARAGON

[pallid salmon]

this is NMSBB app right? and you're building a corvette?
might want to include that info so ppl know what you're referencing, and asking in DjMonkey's discord would probably give you better info
I haven't dealt with corvettes in BB app but you could always just save a backup of the ship then delete those and try

[spice geyser]

true

[empty citrus]

can someone give me a good base building mod that doesnt require amumms?

[pallid salmon]

you shouldn't have to use AMUMSS with majority of mods
and you'll need to be more specific, there are many building mods for different aspects
if you want the absolute most control and freedom, download NMS Base Builder App (or the Blender extension version)

[empty citrus]

i want kind of a vanilla plus mod, like something that stays true to no man's sky's style but adds more building stuff

[pallid salmon]

Again, you should be more specific, because "more building stuff" could mean anything
If you're looking for additional buildable objects, I don't believe anyone has done (or can do?) that
What you're looking for is probably just Beyond Base Building
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1096

[empty citrus]

i guess i could try finding something that adds back old building stuff, remember the old plank, concrete and metal walls? it'd be cool to see those return

[pallid salmon]

just search "legacy" on nexus and you'll find that

[empty citrus]

k thx

[hearty wasp]

You don't need amumss to use UBB alone iirc

[spice geyser]

has anyone found a way to choose what refiner type spawns when using the base builder app?

[final hazel]

This can only be done by placing it within the range/angle of a hab to where it counts as being snapped to it

so basically, no

[spice geyser]

ah. and placing it and deleting the hab takes it with it

[final hazel]

Not necessarily, but without a hab in the correct position the wall unit will default to the titan version

[amber narwhal]

-happy gek's noises-

[solid hawk]

Is there a question?

[brazen pollen]

@rapid sandal Ping! Can NSMMB make Xeno Update Mods currently? ..or do i need newer v6.36..?

^^ ..or anyone..?

[pallid salmon]

MB generates a fresh libmbin.dll for the version you're using
rename it to libmbin.dll to replace the outdated one

[brazen pollen]

Oh, where is it on PC fs..?

[pallid salmon]

it's in the same folder as the MB .exe
wherever you installed that

[brazen pollen]

...jas..

[pallid salmon]

don't know what to tell you, underneath the old libmbin.dll it will create the fresh one

[brazen pollen]

..delete these two..?

[pallid salmon]

delete the shorter one and rename the v6.22 to libMBIN.dll

[brazen pollen]

They're both OLD.. pre Xeno..

[pallid salmon]

then open up the exe and generate a new one

[brazen pollen]

I ran MB, but i can't seem to find the command to re-dl lib..

[pallid salmon]

whatever dll the exe generated, it's updated to your game
just replace the old one with it and see

[brazen pollen]

That's what i'm asking, my MB version is OLD too.. v6.20..

[pallid salmon]

in the exe there is a github icon

[brazen pollen]

Yes, i clicked, but old dl's old apparently.. So, do i need a newer exe..?

[pallid salmon]

the dll doesn't need to be updated on github
it generates it from your game

[brazen pollen]

But, does v6.20 work with Xeno..? The Git's say it's outdated..

[pallid salmon]

if it doesn't generate the current game update, then yes download the newest version of MB

[brazen pollen]

Which version are you making your Mods with..?

[pallid salmon]

I don't use MB to actually make mods
just to find things in files
easier to just do it all raw with MBINCompiler/HGPak etc

[brazen pollen]

I'm at bottom, where is your version..?

[pallid salmon]

ah right
you might need to update cmkNMSReleases.txt

I need to update mine actually, still on 6.32.02
still works tho, generally I believe major releases are sectioned off like you see

[brazen pollen]

Where'd you get..?

[pallid salmon]

https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/blob/main/Common/cmkNMSReleases.txt

[brazen pollen]

No no, not the readme, the newer version of MB.. I want to find dl and install newest working MB..

[pallid salmon]

sorry, when I said I was on 6.32.02 I meant my libMBIN.dll was still on that
my MB version is 6.20 which is the latest https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/releases

[brazen pollen]

Ohh, how do i update DLL then, delete those two files..?

[pallid salmon]

as I said before, delete only the libMBIN.dll, then rename the v6.xx whatever to libMBIN.dll

[brazen pollen]

I thought MB was v6.36..

[pallid salmon]

generally doesn't need major (version) updates for most game updates afaik

[brazen pollen]

Does not compute, they're the exact same binary..! And, i'm running newest Steam version of NMS..

..so i think i need a newer version of DLL, correct??

[pallid salmon]

so to generate the new dll, you need to path to your game files first
select 6.36 and then select No Man's Sky in your steam install
then it will generate the new dll
you should be able to click on the steam option after you've done that from now on iirc

if it doesn't need a new one (as in nothing needed has changed) it won't generate a new one
for instance I selected 6.36 and it didn't generate one, so 6.34 is fine

[brazen pollen]

This took longer to give to you bc i had to F10 it etc..

[pallid salmon]

yeah, the dll should now be in the folder for you to rename

[pallid salmon]

on windows if you do Win+Shift+S and snip the screen it auto copies to your clipboard

[brazen pollen]

Um, ok ,but i have OLD DLLs.. ..can we solve that ..

[pallid salmon]

delete all but the generated 6.34 dll and rename it libMBIN.dll
only delete the libMBIN.dll files, not any other dll files

[brazen pollen]

from above.. same binary, different names..

[pallid salmon]

you don't have the 6.34 dll?

[brazen pollen]

I DO NOT.. lol

[rapid sandal]

nmsmb works with the latest release. just need to put the correct libmbin.dll in the nmsmb folder for the game release you are modding.

[pallid salmon]

might be misremembering what the process is
it should just generate it tho
what does your cmkNMSReleases.txt file have? up to 6.36? I think you already showed but double checking

[brazen pollen]

Please set me on the correct course of actions to update.. tyvm CMK & Mariti..

[pallid salmon]

so when you right click the MB .exe and go to properties>details, what is the file version?

[rapid sandal]

latest nmsmb releases are always here: https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/releases
the https://github.com/cmkushnir/NMSModBuilder/blob/main/Common/cmkNMSReleases.txt gets updated by me when a new libmbin is released or a new game release comes out. nmsmb will read your local cmkNMSReleases.txt then append any new entries from the github version in memory (does not update your local copy).

[brazen pollen]

I delete both DLLs, gawd.. Now MB won't start..

[pallid salmon]

right click and undo delete?

[rapid sandal]

to use nmsmb for a given game release you need to put the correct libmbin.dll in the nmsmb folder. the tooltip over your game icon (steam, gog, game pass) will tell you what you need.
in your case you currently have 6.22.0.1 but it says that the current game release you have needs libmbin.dll 6.34.0.3. you can download the libmbin.dll from https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases
i.e. for you download https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases/download/v6.34.0-pre3/libMBIN.dll and drop it in the nmsmb folder, overwriting the existing libmbin.dll

[rapid sandal]

yes, you have 6.22.0.1 and need 6.34.0.3

[brazen pollen]

Hi CMK, TY for being here, MB is v6.22 (old?) and DLL is old too..

[pallid salmon]

#nms-modding message

[rapid sandal]

nmsmb doesn't need to be updated very often, only the libmbin.dll needs to be updated.

[brazen pollen]

I cannot find the UI button to update DLL..

[rapid sandal]

there is no ui button. like the tooltip says, close nmsmb, download libmbin.dll from the link above, and put it in the nmsmb folder then restart nmsmb.

libmbin.dll is loaded by nmsmb.exe when it starts, can't update it while nmsmb is running.
https://github.com/monkeyman192/MBINCompiler/releases/download/v6.34.0-pre3/libMBIN.dll

[brazen pollen]

Ohhhh, it's all manual!!! I thought you auto updated from Monkey's Git... 🤦‍♂️

[rapid sandal]

for the libmbin.dll that is loaded by nmsmb.dll and used for modding you have to update it manually. the ones with a version appended to them are ones nmsmb downloads to view mbin's, they're not used for modding or to show the info in the various tabs. libmbin.dll is used to fill the various tabs on the left, that's why it's linked when nmsmb is compiled as opposed to when nmsmb is running.
i'm in the middle of rewriting a new mb app that supports multiple games, and in that new release i'm going to try and get rid compile-time linking to libminb.dll, if i can then it will auto-update and use whatever one it needs.

[brazen pollen]

Sorry, fighting MS Edge to KEEP that DLL.. wth..

Okkkk... MB is happy, I'm happy.. 🙂 Now the the fun starts..

CMK, may we shift to DM..?

[rapid sandal]

yes, it's the only thing you have to do to keep nmsmb updated, just update the libmbin.dll. don't need to touch the local cmkNMSReleases.txt unless i mess up the github version, and even then it would only be for a short period.

[rapid sandal]

sure. or use the modding discord the nmsmb-csharp channel if you think others would find the discussion useful.

[glossy juniper]

hello nerds !

anyone have probability tables for giant planets subtypes ?

[final hazel]

subtypes as in biomes? They just follow the standard ones for purple systems I think, ommitting Waterworld and Lava

[solid hawk]

Here's the applicable file, enjoy

[echo wedge]

green planet is funny

is everything just the color green

aww

[brazen pollen]

Hi, is there someone who can help me create an exml or mbin Mod that changes two variables in the following..?
METADATA/SIMULATION/SCENE/EXPERIENCESPAWNTABLE.MBIN

[pallid salmon]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550

[brazen pollen]

Meh.. It was kinda basic info.. not a person or tutorial,,

[solid hawk]

That's the info needed. Is a tutorial.

Written by people. 🙂

[brazen pollen]

Maybe to trained eyes.. which i'm not.. seems i need to make a LUA of the two variables and inject them into the game's MBIN during run.. looking for clues online..

[solid hawk]

You don't need an Lua. Decompile MBIN, edit the resulting MXML file. From there, you can either recompile back to MBIN and use in mod that way or edit down the MXML into a patch EXML file.

[stuck portal]

The exml is probably the easiest, since it's literally just a "Save as..." Step

[solid hawk]

You can write an Lua if you wish, then process through AMUMSS to generate the mod.

[brazen pollen]

I have no idea what's the best simplest way.. CMK said it would make a simple EMXL Mod/patch.. One MBIN two varialbles, was trying to use NMSMB and he suggested EXML patch.. so..

[solid hawk]

No, it is NOT. EXML, if done properly, is not edit the MXML and change the file extension to EXML. It is meant as a patch file, with ONLY the modded changes and necessary in-file pathing information.

If renaming MXML to EXML, then it's NOTHING but a mod conflict generator and has a large potential to break any other mod that makes changes to that same file(s).

[glossy juniper]

no like subtype of biomes, paradise one exactly

[final hazel]

Paradise is not a subbiome

[glossy juniper]

oh hello nice to meet you here too ahah

[glossy juniper]

what is it then

[stuck portal]

Yeah, which is why I said it's a save as step, not a direct extension change, but I'll take my back statement regardlesz

[glossy juniper]

i hate xml so i never did modding for nms

[brazen pollen]

"It is meant as a patch file, with ONLY the modded changes and necessary in-file pathing information." i think this is what CMK has told me to do..

[final hazel]

A biome name override, given to lush worlds that have both No Storms and Low Sentinel Activity. Infested/ruined subbiome worlds can't get this

[solid hawk]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mnswJjYCxRaxbhvPS_QFRCer7SRch9mfOUbIQc_W5vE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.uu6a2dc4ekxr

[final hazel]

It's solely a name, helping the player identify ideal lush worlds

if you don't mind high sentinel activity, lush worlds that lack storms but have that would probably also be ideal

[solid hawk]

You have the modded MXML?

[glossy juniper]

no all giant lush i found are high sentinel i dont want it i want exactly paradise

but i start to despair after 27h of searching

[brazen pollen]

Um, nope, i was trying to start off by asking for help..

[final hazel]

Then keep looking. Also make sure On-Foot Combat isn't set to Hostile, as that makes High Sentinel Activity the new minimum (to the point it's not shown on planet scan details)

[solid hawk]

Only 18 quadrillion systems left to check, lol

[glossy juniper]

uh how difficulty setting have to go with planet generation

i play on perma death max difficulty and locked

[final hazel]

This is why then.

You will never see a paradise world

[brazen pollen]

Why convo in Mods channel..?

[glossy juniper]

no fkcin way

[final hazel]

or any that lack sentinel patrols/high sentinel activity at least

[glossy juniper]

cause i guess only people that could give me the odds of finding a paradise giant are the ones that open game files

[solid hawk]

Use the info in the first document to unpak then decompile the file. Open the MXML in any text editor and make your changes. Can go from there.

[brazen pollen]

I have NMSMB, is that the hard way to do this..

[solid hawk]

Not exactly, because the infomation isn't in the game files, that way.

[glossy juniper]

i did saw paradise tho just no Giant paradise

[solid hawk]

Giant, vs. Gas Giant, is determined by a function in the exe, not in the game files and we can't see it.

[final hazel]

Then that's due to a bug, in which case it's functionally identical to a high sent activity world on On-Foot Combat = Hostile

[glossy juniper]

yeah i know high activity = hostile thats why i dotn want an high activity one but a paradise

[solid hawk]

You can do it with NMSMB, via a CS script you'd write in C#, but the output will be full file replacement MBIN.

[glossy juniper]

the one that i found as paradise arent labelled as high activity

[final hazel]

Then make a new save, or save edit to lower that specific option

[final hazel]

Yes, due to the bug I described. Again, Low Sent Activity on that diff option still has sentinel patrols because it was never intended to occur on that

some weird overrides can make it appear though, or something, whatever it is it acts identically to High only on that diff option

[brazen pollen]

Yes, CMK said to avoid that, so i see why from you explaining, which tool do i start with to find my listed above MBIN and decompress it..?

[solid hawk]

Not necessaily. I use it sometimes for information gathering, among other means.

[glossy juniper]

yes they do have sentinels but much less and not aggressive but aggressive sentinels arent that often to me

[pallid salmon]

if you follow the modding doc I linked it tells you what to do

[solid hawk]

I'll throw you a bone, one sec....

[brazen pollen]

He meant for my simple Mod..

[final hazel]

Then a high sentinel activity world would be identically ideal to you

[glossy juniper]

or you mean that every single LUSH should have aggressive sentinel?

[final hazel]

they use the exact same spawn chances/etc as high on that diff option

[final hazel]

No, high sentinel activity =/= aggressive sentinels
High Sentinel Activity = sentinel patrols at all, randomly roaming the planet
this is in contrast to Low Sentinel Activity, which is no patrols at all, sentinels never being found outside specific structures
Since low isn't meant to appear on Hostile, they just made it's values match High Sent Activity on Hostile

[brazen pollen]

I was reading the AMUSS tutorial.. so, PSARCTool..?

[pallid salmon]

you don't need AMUMSS to make a mod

[solid hawk]

This is unmodded vanilla file. Make your changes

[solid hawk]

Got it covered already

[brazen pollen]

Steam PC, correct?

[pallid salmon]

you are reading an outdated tutorial
the modding doc I linked is not outdated #nms-modding message

[solid hawk]

Already confusing enough with multiple different conversations going on at once in here. haha

[brazen pollen]

The first one says it's old too, i was being cautious..

[solid hawk]

PSARCTool hasn't been used since before 29 January 2025

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

[brazen pollen]

I muted everyone but you guys.. 🙂

[glossy juniper]

so you tell me the 4 or 5 paradise planets ive found are only due to a bug and i shouldnt see any paradise in max difficulty so ive spent 27h to llok for something that shouldnt occur except if theres a bug

[final hazel]

Pretty much, and all paradises you find are functionally identical to High Sentinel Activity, No Storms lush worlds

[solid hawk]

Make your changes in #nms-modding message , then send to me

[glossy juniper]

i just wanted the label for completion sake... but thanks for answer tho

[solid hawk]

Quicker is better, I need to get to bed soon. 5AM comes too quickly and after 11PM for me.

[brazen pollen]

Ok, jas.. Btw, i'm not sure how high i can set an integer variable (i want MAX), will i be able to make changes if needed..?

[final hazel]

Weird bugs/inconsistencies make things like this hard to explain lol, especially the rare planets that show their details wrong on planet scan

[glossy juniper]

well thanks for your time and answers tho ill stop wasting my time at least xd

[stuck portal]

Yes, mod files are never final, you can always make changes after the fact, you may need to restart the game each time for it to take effect though

At least as far as EXML files are concerned, for mods that require compiling into MBIN file you would have to recompile it everytime changes are made, but EXML you can just go in and change the values

[glossy juniper]

2147483647

thats max Int
ps: i didnt read anything prior

[stuck portal]

Signed int, unsigned is double that. Units in NMS uses unsigned.

[glossy juniper]

oh right forgot that part but yeah make sense as max money is 42xxxx ish

[solid hawk]

EVERY numerical value in NMS has an allowed range, that we can't see, enforced by the exe. If outside that range, the game will revert to default value or in rare circumstances crash the game.

This is why when making mods, we have to test, test, and test again.

[glossy juniper]

for signed it go to negatives no ?

[solid hawk]

Can be a negative value in some cases. Depends on the property. Only hundreds of thousands of them.

[fair narwhal]

me thinking im all big and bad just because i can mod, i admit it, I'm a nobody.

[stuck portal]

MBINs can be changed by a Text editor?

[glossy juniper]

btwn how doable it is to make a mod that change refiners UIm even if it work only on a specific resolution and break with each updates

[glossy juniper]

dotn think so lmao

[final hazel]

if you don't care about them working after, yes

[solid hawk]

No. MBIN are compiled. Have to decompile first with MBINCompiler

[glossy juniper]

to what i guess editing mbin is quite like tryign to edit a zip file (to keep it simple)

[solid hawk]

Although, in the VERY early days, modding was done via hex editing the MBINs

[glossy juniper]

masochists

[stuck portal]

Ok, just making sure that my statement about needing to recompile MBIN everytime changes are made isn't super wrong ><

[solid hawk]

It's the only way that was available, at the time, before MBINCompiler

[glossy juniper]

i consider it as "No way to do it"

[solid hawk]

Even after MBINCompiler, again early days, most properties weren't named, so was pure trial and error guesswork as to what you were changing.

[glossy juniper]

XML is already unreadable PITA

[solid hawk]

You're correct, or make into an EXML patch.

BUT, all UI files and most model files cannot be EXML patch and must be MBIN for the game to use, due to technical reasons.

[glossy juniper]

PITA is pain in the A..

[pallid salmon]

I know
but saying xml is unreadable is subjective

[glossy juniper]

give me json and C# or java

xml is just shit tons of screen bloat

[solid hawk]

What we see in the files, to an extent, is NOT how HelloGames sees them or how the game sees or uses them. MBINCompiler is a modding community created tool and certain decisions of how data is displayed and what it is called were made by the creator, eMoose.

Like the model files.....SCENE, MATERIAL, GEOMETRY, etc.....we see them as separate files, but the game, in memory, smashes the data from each into one big blob, so EXML won't work as the layout of the EXML will not match up with how the game sees the conglomerate model file.

[glossy juniper]

and xml is the "good guy" compared to mxml and exml using same format for both logic and UI definition is just dumb af

[brazen pollen]

I found the MBIN had heaps of identical values, so changing two variables turned into many.. I hope it works..!

[glossy juniper]

omg

[solid hawk]

That's 11 changes, not two

[glossy juniper]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!--File created using MBINCompiler version (6.34.0.3)-->
<Data template="cGcExperienceSpawnTable">
    <Property name="FlybySpawns">

[pallid salmon]

congrats, you changed whatever it was you wanted to change (also, renaming file is a no no- won't work)
now you need to edit it down to only include the edited sections #nms-modding message

[glossy juniper]

pleqse use this at least

[solid hawk]

Give me a few minutes....

[glossy juniper]

this character <`> 3 times then xml then again the same character 3 times

<Data template="cGcExperienceSpawnTable">

[fair narwhal]

bro XML is easier then having to work with stuff like python ?

[brazen pollen]

Oh, i need to run it through mt WDiff to trim it, i changed the file name so it wasn't confusing

[glossy juniper]

not really

[fair narwhal]

i seem to do it just fine

[glossy juniper]

also python not the best cause not strongly typed

[fair narwhal]

well fine is subjective

but i can read most of it

[glossy juniper]

you can prob read most of python too

[fair narwhal]

i can

what was harder to do back in the day was write my own CFG files with directories and binds

for source games

that shts harder to do from scratch

then this stuff

[glossy juniper]

i said json with python or java or c#

json instead the xml and programming language for logic part

[fair narwhal]

modding old school source engine games is where i come from

[glossy juniper]

xml isnt made for logic

[fair narwhal]

particularly half life 2

[glossy juniper]

which one easier to read

[fair narwhal]

json

[glossy juniper]

yeah

[fair narwhal]

json dont have the bs brackets

[pallid salmon]

both are hard to read when the background is white lol

[glossy juniper]

it dont repeat 3453245345 employees either

yes its just a screen from google

fck light themes

[pallid salmon]

ik ik

[fair narwhal]

i know its a comparison

[glossy juniper]

light attract bugs

[fair narwhal]

i use green on black notepd terminal thingy

like fallout terminals or whatever

[glossy juniper]

i use parrotOS colors but slightly darken

[fair narwhal]

but isnt green text on black screen vibe af

[glossy juniper]

it is

[fair narwhal]

dos looking

[glossy juniper]

well thats sh

i replace by zsh when working on linux

[fair narwhal]

oh so you use the fallout looking thing too?

[brazen pollen]

I had no idea where sections start & end, i was originally targeting Living Frigates and the SpawnChance to MAX and the StandardEncounter to true.. But, bc i'm very new to Mods i see there's a bit of syntax i need to learn about MBINs structures.. I also tried to decrease some of the other annoying spawns..

[glossy juniper]

kinda yeah just transparent terminal background cuase despite 4 monitors i never have enough

[stuck portal]

I made one such mod for personal use before but I didn't set the encounter to standard, I still kept it's special encounter property, but I basically removed the weighting of all other special encounters.

I still used anomaly detectors because I didnt want to mess with the pulsing encounters while not under the effect of anomaly detectors

[glossy juniper]

you dont need to learn about mbin mbin are just compiled form, like transformed from human readable to computer readable

did you ever did programming ? no offense just asking to assess ur technical level

[solid hawk]

Here you go

Properly packaged mod, in EXML patch format, from the changes you sent.

[brazen pollen]

You are awesome, but good luck to the changes i made, i'm criossing my fingers i didn't mess up too much to work..

[solid hawk]

haha. You can edit the values in the EXML, if you wish

[brazen pollen]

MBIN structure, where to go to learn about this directly..?

[brazen pollen]

Oh! in the Mod itself? TYVM!

[glossy juniper]

you dont care about mbin

[solid hawk]

By looking at the decompiled MXML files. There's no tutorial or catalog explaining everything. Too much. The structures are dictated by the classes in the exe.

[glossy juniper]

mbin is unreadable computer language but with change made like a year ago you can work with exml files which are human readable

[brazen pollen]

I think i do, i need to know where sections start & end so i can correctly change the correct variables, there's a lot of same similar in that MBIN..

[glossy juniper]

maybe i didnt understood how nms modding work but to me you decompile mbin and work on decompiled files never ever on the mbin

[solid hawk]

The structures are somewhat set in stone. We cannot add new properties or take a section from a file in rewardtable and pop it into experiencespawntable, as an example.

[brazen pollen]

+Ok, that sounds daunting, i thought it was like JSON etc.

[solid hawk]

Nope

[glossy juniper]

exml is kinda like json + logic language

combined to use the same syntax

mbin is like .exe or .jar even if .jar are more like .zip

to keep it simple .mbin is compiled .exml or mxml is source code

[brazen pollen]

Ok sir, testing now..

[solid hawk]

Swann is right, need to reference as MXML, as that's decompiled. MBIN is compiled and not readable. MBINs are like an encrypted .zip, as you say. They are nothing but a storage vessel for the compiled data within, which the game decompiles in memory as the game is loaded and runs.

But when the game extracts the data from MBIN into memory, looks and arranged differently than we see in our MXML, which again is a modding community construct, not something from HelloGames.

[glossy juniper]

its a bit more complicated than that but thats a way to keep it simple (in fact mbin is serialised and not compiled hence why it work on both linux and windows, for compiled files exe or DLLs are really but thats more technical and irelevant for what you need to know for modding)

[solid hawk]

Yes, simplifying for brevity and understanding.

ok, on that note, I get a whopping four hours of sleep before work, so goodnight.

[glossy juniper]

bottom line: if what you see on a text editopr is not readable you shoudlnt edit it

ahaha good luck its 8am here woke up at 20 my sleep schedule as much fuck as my finances xd

good luck for work tho good night sir

[stuck portal]

Sleep well!

[brazen pollen]

Test failed, got instant dog-fights with indestructible Pirates! So, i meant MXML not MBIN, very noobish of me to mix them up.. Sleep well! Tyvm!

[glossy juniper]

Explain I might look at it after I find a mind soul willing to help me start my car cause my battery is dead (irl)

[brazen pollen]

Dead at home and you need to get somewheres, or dead somewheres and need to get home..? I'm looking into my rushed handiwork, i can update after i do better edits.. 🙂 Good Luck with car, we need our cars.. irl.

[glossy juniper]

Dead at home but lost job cause of it and can't achieve to find a single person willing to help me

[brazen pollen]

Are you rural or urban when at home, usually rural neighbors will help with car/truck issues, but urban you usually have to have a good friend or two or call a mobile service mechanic or like roadside assistance..

[brazen pollen]

But, I'm sorry to hear that, hope it gets fixed, i had a battery die recently, cost hundreds for new replacement..

To whom it may concern, i fixed my MXML file, got the variables i think i want this time, i reverted all the quickly made edits, so now i'm ready to find out how to trim the file down as asked..
I'll also look at the contents of the mod Babscoole sent me..

[brazen pollen]

well that was intuitive to me.. Got the unneeded stuff out, and hopefully got the structure syntax correct.. New Mod..! I guess it can be called anything..

Time to test..

[glossy juniper]

My neighbor don't have car sadly, also my fucked up sleep schedule didn't help, just got it to start kinda hijacked city workers from their jobs but hey I was really needing a hand

Definitely don't have the money for a replacement lmao

[brazen pollen]

Just so ya know, we don't fire our workers if their cars have troubles.. We value them enough to know that they'll appreciate it and if the time comes they'll give back to us when needed..

[glossy juniper]

well thats the case if you dont have a precary job here, when you get daily or weekly renewals for contracts however its a different story

[vale iron]

I feel like I'm missing some context. And precary is apparently a word, but not one known by 99%+ of English speakers. I've never heard it, but it seems interesting

[vale iron]

Simp..ing for brev.

[solid hawk]

Babs = Simp 🤪

[brazen pollen]

Hey! I hope you're still alive after so little sleep, i seldom sleep longer than 5 hours myself, but it's very nice to have a long wonderful sleep and feel refreshed.. 🙂

Anyways, you're probably at work, however i trimmed the mod you helped create, having a EXML and the reference MXML file is truly wonderful and empowering..! Tyvm for that! 🙂

[solid hawk]

No problem, happy to help

[brazen pollen]

You did, HEAPS! But, unfortunately the mod still hasn't worked, i'm still trying to get to actually change my encounters, i think i may be setting a value that the exe rejects as too high.. ..or a typo or syntax error.. 🤔

[vale iron]

What are you trying to change? I honestly don't want to go back through all the messages

[brazen pollen]

Hi Gumsk! This is my simplest code, i want it to increase to MAX chance my Living Frigates encounters..
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Data template="cGcExperienceSpawnTable">
<Property name="PulseEncounters">
<Property name="PulseEncounters" value="GcPulseEncounterInfo" _id="BIO_FRIG">
<Property name="SpawnChance" value="90.000000" />
<Property name="SpawnDistance" value="2100.000000" />
</Property>
</Property>
</Data>

[solid hawk]

He just didn't know how to mod or make EXML. Was given the documents and I helped him with this one.

[vale iron]

Ah, so most encounters like that are a weighted average. You add together all the "percentage chance" values and divide. What you are specifying might not be the result you want based on that

[brazen pollen]

Yes! he got my MBIN converted to MXML and made a mod from that..!

[vale iron]

So if there are four items all at 100% chance, they are each actually 25%

[brazen pollen]

Initially i tried to reduce some of the others too, but it ended up getting me 100% dog-fights with unkillable Pirates, which should be a great Mod for ppl who want a impossible challenge, lol..

[vale iron]

You have the EXPORT mod right? So you can see what your mod is changing, according to the game?

[brazen pollen]

no idea..?

[vale iron]

one sec

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3347

Use that mod, run the game, then look at the MODS folder and look at what the game is creating from your EXML

[brazen pollen]

Put that mod in the mods folder with my mod, correct?

[vale iron]

Yes

[brazen pollen]

Gave it a run, no LF showed up, but i have a new folder in Mods.. ! 🙂

I'm thinking to Diff it with a vanilla run, correct..? In the simulation folder, the MXML in there does contain my two altered lines.., does that indicate they're in the game as it is running..?

[vale iron]

Correct, diff the experiencespawntable from the EXPORTED folder to vanilla, see what the differences are, and see if that's what you want from your EXML mod

[brazen pollen]

Ah, but vanilla just gives Globals, so no compare is possible, however, as mentioned i see my two variables in the Mod Export, so i may assume they're in the running game fwiw, correct..?

So, i think my two variables, which are the same variables other mod-makers have used in the past. either are not working or a different way is now needed, bc the older mods didn't work yesterday either.. That's why i asked CMK to lend me some help making a new mod.. Which led me here, and to find success in making my new mod, but to only have it fail..

@vale iron, you authored 100's of popular Mods, do you have any thoughts why my and older mods increasing the chance of Living Frigates appearing are not working for me..? (..or anyone lurking or watching with interest..?)

[fresh arch]

Keep in mind space encounters can have additional conditions

Like having to use a specific ship type or having some mission completed / in progress

Maybe you're missing on something in this regard

[brazen pollen]

Perhaps, but honestly i just made this mod attempt bc the nexus ones failed me.. So, it may be me somehow, or something changed rendering the old way (which i'm duplicating) to not work any more..

I have re-made the mod again, using a bigger hammer so-to-speak in which i set all the other encounters to zero.., testing it now.. 🤞

[brazen pollen]

Alright, here's the good news, the mod actually works! But, not in the System i was testing it in all night.., i believe what's not working is the ability to re-find/re-discover/duplicate already acquired LFs.. one of the LF Mods i tried from Nexus says it allows this, however it does fail as well.. ofc in the same system i was testing in, so i dunno..

Here's the Living Frigate mod i made if someone like me has 100+ Systems that have to be reexplored bc some recent Update has changed most of their LF database and they do not another 1000 years to update their personal LF Lists the HG hard way...

^^^It can be human text edited to theoretically increase any other Impulse Spawn Events as well... 😆

[runic wind]

Hi i have this crash, any help? 166684_0xEC1AC5_ST76561198765453131

[brazen pollen]

Game crash..? With or without Mods, and which Mod(s)..?

[solid hawk]

All that gives is the build of the game you're running and user id.

Pretty much worthless.

If mod related, remove mods until crash goes away. If not using mods, nothing to do with this channel.

...seeing your other posts, I'm guessing, yes you installed mods.

[languid abyss]

So, I have been having a problem where most of the modding tools listed almost everywhere are broken or haven't been updated to work with current NMS versions. Does anyone know how I can find a way to extract the .pak files so I can actually read them and all?

[final hazel]

https://github.com/monkeyman192/HGPAKtool

[languid abyss]

Thanks!

[pallid salmon]

http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550
this should help you as well

[languid abyss]

Alright that's good to know, I'll try these!

[runic wind]

Any mod for have better sounds of the ship and boost etc...?

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/games/nomanssky/mods?categoryName=Audio

Only use mods newer than 29 January 2025. Any older will not work

[pallid salmon]

not many audio specific mods in total but yeah check nexus

[solid hawk]

Also, better is 100% subjective. If the sounds of ship and boost were replaced by the howling of a cat in heat, I'm certain somebody out there could call it better.

The more specific you are with a question, the easier it becomes to give a detailed answer.

[north rapids]

@solid hawk Random question

Can yall make a 2nd version of the Beyond Base Building with no limits set in place (so that ppl who lowk know what they are doing dont need to modify the mod constantly to remove them again)?

It'd genuinely be greatly apprechiated

• i noticed 1 or 2 parts missing

as in these 2, especially the curved wall is REALLY nice
-# they did remove this from the recipe menu in some update so its currently fully unobtainable ingame LMAO, cant get it via bbb or cachepin glitch

[solid hawk]

To customize, removing limits, edit the included Lua in a text editor. All changeable stuff at the top, in true\false format. Then process through AMUMSS. https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

I can't do customized version, past the current default. 1000 people want the mod configured 1000 different ways. I can't post tons of variants, as each adds time both to update the mod, then to upload said update to NexusMods. Then over time, with the mod needing to be updated, that time increase adds up significantly.

This is why I make it as simple as possible for people to customize on their own, to match their needs.

I'll look into the curved and tall walls, BUT if to show up requires changes in any other game file than BASEBUILDINGOBJECTSTABLE, then can't do it via BBB, as that's the only file the mod touches.

[boreal stream]

any mod/what mod unlocks all past expedition rewards?

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2996, read the instructions on the DESCRIPTION tab. 🙂

[final hazel]

or https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062 + https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3420

[solid hawk]

Oh sorry, I didn't read carefully enough. Thanks Grouch.

[boreal stream]

this lets you do the expeditions?

i kinda just wanna get all the stuff

[solid hawk]

Yep, Use what Grouch linked

[boreal stream]

i see ty

[solid hawk]

Or for a few select unique ships, there's individual mods for just those

Just search NexusMods for Unlocker and you'll see then all.

[boreal stream]

nahh ill just get them all, wtv i dont use jst goes to freighter storage

w mans ty

[solid hawk]

Not a clue what you're trying to say after the comma, but enjoy. 🙂

[boreal stream]

wtv = whatever

w addon

question

can i get all these rewardsa

and then remove the mods?

or bad idea

[solid hawk]

Yes

[boreal stream]

yes in bad idea or yes i can remove the mods

[solid hawk]

Once you get the items you want, jump in and out of your ship cockpit or find a save point, to save.

[boreal stream]

alr bet w mans

[solid hawk]

Then can exit and remove the mods

[north rapids]

Thats fair 👍

thank uu

is me forgetting to run it through amumss also why my game keeps crashing every 30 min or so?

any ideas on that

didnt use to be aissue but now it seems to be

oh wait theres no linux version 💀

[vale iron]

Amumss is extremely reliant on windows files

[north rapids]

🔥 great

[vale iron]

Won't work on Linux

[north rapids]

awesome

i mean by BBB's amumss is lowk empty asf anyways so idgaf

[vale iron]

That's not the lua nor amumss. That's a text file that says what version of amumss was used to make the mod

[north rapids]

oh

fair enough i dont have amumss anyways, i just do funny stuff

anyways ill just ask, any mods here which are likely to just. crash my game constantly while in a area with a lot of parts?

especially on part loading

[vale iron]

Search for "MBIN" and remove those mods first

[north rapids]

the mod with the mbin was added just now to try to bypass the issue (the savegame by hotkey mod)
isnt causing the issue 👍

also not editing files which mess with parts

[vale iron]

Then nothing stands out to me as likely

[north rapids]

damnb

cause the crashes are like absurdly common

behavior with atop and htop seems normal enough (aside from it constantly spiking random cores)

so idk whats causing it

[vale iron]

Not many mods there and if crashes are that common, just take them out and see if it crashes still

[north rapids]

it doesnt

i even combined boundary and scaling to see if thatd fix it 😭

(it didnt)

[vale iron]

It wouldn't 🙂

[north rapids]

yea i know but why not anyways 😃

edits the same thing from what i saw i think

[vale iron]

I just separate them so people can customize how they like

[north rapids]

y<e

the crashing is absurdly inconsistent tho

sometimes its every few minutes, sometimes it doesnt crash for hours

like here for example turning around crashed my game? why

ima see if i can reproduce without mods

yep still crashes

with a empty log

not a mod issue mb

[vale iron]

That kind of crash is often related to a particular part that has a problem, so you might have put down a part that isn't normally allowed and causes problems, and those problems would remain if you removed the mods, because the part is still there

[north rapids]

no i checked, the quick loading and unloading of parts (especially in build cam) pushes a random core (because the game distributes it like shit) to 100% causing a crash

[solid hawk]

Also, the game doesn't log anything for us. That log and enabling it, is only for the developers.

You on Steam?

If so, do a game files verification, just for the heck of it, maybe something got corrupted.

GoG Galaxy Client can do this also, but not sure if called the same. No idea if GamePass has this though.

[north rapids]

nope

[solid hawk]

Was worth a shot. Can see if the folks in #nms-questions have any other suggestions. That's where game crashes are normally handled. Else can try a report to HelloGames Zendesk.

[solid hawk]

I did look into the two walls. BBB, by default, does everything it can, within the scope of BASEBUILDINGOBJECTSTABLE for these two objects. Sets them as buildable on all bases. Guessing missing entries in UNLOCKABLEITEMTREES file, which would then mean no way to add to the knownproducts list. This mod might get it: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/3443

[solid hawk]

@brazen pollen by chance are you Core x4 also?

[brazen pollen]

I think so..

[brazen pollen]

Are you by any chance using a bluetooth gamepad or other HID to play NMS..? This reminds me of when the batteries are dying or too low, it locks the game up bc the HID gets disconnected.. 🤷

[north rapids]

no lol, ended up being the game being optimized weirldy

overloads a core to 100% if too many parts load/unload

reported to zendesk

[north rapids]

okay will check it out

[empty citrus]

my game crashed and my mods turned off, but now i dont know how to turn them off again. can someone help?

[final hazel]

Delete the file No Man's Sky\Binaries\SETTINGS\GCMODSETTINGS.MXML

then open the game

[empty citrus]

it works now, thanks!

[north rapids]

i mean arent u meant to edit the file and put them to false?

[final hazel]

You can do that, but deleting the file also works if you don't use it to disable individual mods normally

[north rapids]

oh

fair nuff

[cobalt condor]

Sometimes individual mods will stop working for no discernable reason but can be fixed by just deleting the modsettings file. Adding mods when there's already a modsettings file will shuffle them into the load order in completely random and arbitrary places, but deleting the file will reorder the load order to be alphabetical. Generally it's just good troubleshooting advice to tell people to delete it because it can solve so many different issues

[north rapids]

#nms-questions message
yo modders
any methods on adjusting the base complexity maximum loaded parts

in the files

i need a inbetween between high and ultra

[deep venture]

Hi there. i was reading this google doc and said to join this discord about you can use save editor to copy someone corvette to your own. So was wondering where could i get those codes. Thank u !

[vale iron]

What google doc? My google doc says nothing about corvettes. Most likely you want the Creative and Sharing Hub server.

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[vale iron]

I believe that's hardcoded

[north rapids]

💀 wgat the hell
seriously no way to go and say "high = this max parts max loaded"

if im on ultra my game crashes when turning or moving too quick and if im on high i fall through the floor a lot

[cobalt condor]

Saw some values for the base part LODs per graphics setting but nothing for max part count

[solid hawk]

NMS modding cannot add new features or settings that don't already exist in vanilla.

[north rapids]

okay but id be fine just modifying the existing "high" setting not adding a new one

like u can manually change some including getting res scaling and fsr2 at the same time (which is kinda funny)

so i just felt like asking here

[solid hawk]

What I'm saying is if there's no high = this max parts max loaded setting exposed in the game files, can't add it. Could easily be something hardcoded in the exe.

[north rapids]

awww

okiiiiii thanks

[solid hawk]

If you want, but if a ton of mods and an update has disabled all mods, which happens with semi-frequency, much quicker and easier to delete the file and the game will recreate the file with all mods enabled.

[north rapids]

kk

[north rapids]

oh also the mod u mentioned previously doesnt do shit in adding them so im lowk just seeing if i can save edit them in somehow

[solid hawk]

Should work if you add to known products

[north rapids]

nah didnt

so im doing some other stuff, ill say when i manage to

-# mind u, they were already in known products

sincerely, i think tryna readd these is above my weightclass, i cant seem to add em to the recipes (WHERE THEY USED TO BE), to the build menu or even go to the next object from them (which u used to be able to do afaik)

-# oh they are added in both seen and known recipes btw

-# via a mod & via save edit (just to make sure)

For those curious heres the id's ig

WALL
WALLTALL
WALLCURVED
WALLDOOR

would genuinely love for someone to help me out, those are among my fav parts oat

[round sinew]

i'm not sure if this is the right place to look at, maybe not, but looking at metadata/reality/tables/basebuildingobjectstable.MXML, it seems that that part is set to not be buildable (dont know why it says buildableabovewater yes)

same thing goes for walltall too, for example

[solid hawk]

He also uses BBB, which sets those to true

[round sinew]

ah gotcha, sorry, mb if that had been mentioned

[north rapids]

-# she but yes and i even made my own nifty mod where i stole everything possible which could i add from like 6 seperate mods and it still doesn't

-# that shitass micromod tryna add 4 literally ingame parts edits 6 things and still doesn't work

[pallid salmon]

-# why are we whispering

[hushed willow]

-# idk

[brazen flower]

Anyone know what these settings in the BaseContext json do?

[final hazel]

The current preset chosen, the easiest preset level chosen ever on that save, and the hardest preset level ever chosen on that save

the "easiest" one is for disqualifying the Survival achievement if any options are ever set below survival

the hardest preset used isn't something that actually does anything I think, it's always set to permadeath too I think

[whole grove]

How do I add multi tools and ships with the save editor? Like to actually add more. And what is the best upgrades to put in the slots for exosuit, multitools, and ships

[solid hawk]

Go to the multitool or ship section in the save editor of your choice. They all have an import button, to import the item you have a backup of. Creative and Sharing Discord has backup files. Can also change an existing, which is intuitive. None allow for creation from nothing. As far as upgrades, whatever appeals to you, s-class or illegal.

[whole grove]

and theres a mod to download prebuild corvettes and pets right? also is there a place with other shared gamesaves? just wanna see other bases and get some building ideas

[solid hawk]

No, that's save editing, not modding.

Two completely different things.

Yeah, there's base backups around as well.

[whole grove]

when i hit import it brings up backup files do i need to download them first?

then add multi tools and stuff

[solid hawk]

Yes. You wouldn't have any otherwise.

[whole grove]

sorry for so many questions but is there a website or something that has them

[solid hawk]

Creative and Sharing Discord is where I know that has them. I personally don't do this, what I have in-game was acquired in-game, so unsure of any other sources.

[late frost]

heyee - i had a question about internal names of modules and blueprints, are there resource lists?

[fresh arch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J8WdrubKgo8A9hPY-hbQLq4eVrb3n3lZAgiI2J7ncAU/

Alternatively NMS assistant webpage

Open product / tech page, click on the little code icon < > on the image, it brings up data from game files

[late frost]

thank you friendly. There is so much to learn...

[fair narwhal]

i wish there were other idiots that did the type of shitty mods i make

[trail steppe]

What on gods green earth am I watching

[fair narwhal]

magic

[valid rain]

why though

[raw hinge]

one week ago i was able to resize base building items and now i can't for some reasons. It had the items like corvette parts too, but now i Can't for some reason?

[solid hawk]

Don't have Beyond Base Building. gBase Scaling More allows to increase the range of scaling, where BBB allows objects which can't be scaled in vanilla to be scaleable.

[raw hinge]

But I had both of them a week ago and it worked fine

Beyond gives more base parts right

like corvette parts

[slow hawk]

how do i change some value from a mod?

[solid hawk]

Yeah and now you don't have both, per the screenshot.

[solid hawk]

Details on the description tab of the mod page

[solid hawk]

If the mod contains .EXML files, can edit those with any text editor.

[raw hinge]

Sorry, i might not understand what you are saying haha.

Cause i have the Resizing and beyond mods enabled

[solid hawk]

Oh sorry, I didn't see BBB there the first time. Are other mods working?

Might just be GCMODSETTINGS.MXML got goofed. Just delete the file and it'll be recreated.

[raw hinge]

When deleted and i restart the game does that fix things?

[solid hawk]

If that's the issue, then yes.

Common issue.

[raw hinge]

god damn thank you

it fixed it

[slow hawk]

do i need buildmod.bat too to rebuild the mod? or just change the value and save from the mxml?

okaty its working now

thanks @solid hawk

[polar bobcat]

hi! trying the base builder app 🫡 what save editor would you guys recommend? nomnom was my old one but it seems to be pretty out of date

[pallid salmon]

If you're only using it to import bases use NMSSE by goatfungus
I would recommend NMSE by vector cmdr but for some reason accessing the full json for a base and not just parts of it is like, impossible. Or I'm just dumb

[polar bobcat]

thank you marie splatoon

[slow hawk]

awesome🗿 just need to tone it down a lil bit with the jump height

[empty trail]

Iron man out here 😭

[slow hawk]

😭 its so much fun this way AHAH

[solid hawk]

Public service announcement, on behalf of the long term prolific modding community: We're dealing with a mod thief over at NexusMods currently. We get the mods removed and he reposts, so we have to do it all over again. Currently he's trying to steal\repost one of FriendlyFires mods. The individual is called Jamboslice83. Highly recommended NOT to download any mods by this person, while we work with NexusMods moderators to get him banned.

[slow hawk]

i'll call this one shadowstep 😎 im changing the configuration for the rocketboost and its fun as hell XD

[slow hawk]

oh i've seen this guy before not long time ago

[solid hawk]

Just popped up recently, last week

[empty trail]

Thats fire
But also like bro run youre about to die 😭 😭 😭

[fair narwhal]

Really ? People going around and taking credit for somebody else's mod ?

Fk people who plagarize

Also it's not fucking hard to make a mod on their own the real way , why need to copy somebody else's/literally rip it

[warped escarp]

Is there a tool somewhere that can make it easier to mod? so i dont have to manage 300 different decompilers to mod? i wanna make a mod that removes the egg habitation climate thing

oh wait AMUMUSS

hmm coo

[cobalt condor]

300 different compilers? You just need HGPakTool and MbinCompiler

[solid hawk]

Just MBINCompiler is game version specific. If running the latest version of the game, then need the latest version of MBINCompiler

If running an older version of the game, then need to use the applicable version of MBINCompiler for that game version.

This may be the sort of thing you're shooting for: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/4179

[pallid salmon]

hey that looks familiar...
just my most scrappy mod

[vale iron]

If you're wanting to use mods, just use vortex or syzzles manager

[solid hawk]

Singularity

[fair narwhal]

how does one get NMS Modder for their discord title

[pallid salmon]

#contact-us request a role
afaik you have to link a mod you've made, or at least that's what I did

[fair narwhal]

i got 4 mods ive published of varrying quality

[pallid salmon]

good enough
admins usually respond pretty fast

[fair narwhal]

here are my mods

well, ones ive bothered publishing

i got a whole bigass folder of ones i made that i wont publish due to how intentionally shitty they are/ for testing

yet

obviously i can't use these titles

on nexus

can i?

id just post my entire folder

[pallid salmon]

read their TOS
but generally, cleaner is better in every regard

[fair narwhal]

one can just upload their whole folder to nexusmods right? i made sure im not currently using any that are downloaded from somebody else

thats why mine are so wonky

and broken

basically if you wanna mess your game up, download my folder

im quite mad in the head

if i make mods for somebody i can't promise them i won't add some extra funny shit in there

that they didnt ask for

like example? want an exocraft mod? well , your model will start walking upside down now

consider it a bundle/signature

like for example i made a mod that fucks up the character model animations, and yes , its visible to other players too

you can call me the worst modder in the whole community if you want

or weirdest

you should make an Anti-Yutaka mod

[pallid salmon]

well I can't call you a modder at all since you don't have the discord role
time to submit a role request 🙂

[fair narwhal]

but i have proof tho

are you fking with me rn?

[pallid salmon]

sarcasm
but your original message was about getting the modder role, so

[fair narwhal]

it was yes

thank you for directing me to it

actually where do i do that again i already forgot

its been removed

[pallid salmon]

#contact-us -> request a role

[fair narwhal]

hey if one of my mods has 16 kudos, is that good?

or thumbs up

and like 400 downloads

[pallid salmon]

you shouldn't really quantify your mods based on metrics really
posting a terrible mod during a major update will get a ton of downloads and posting an amazing quality mod in between updates will get a lot less

[fair narwhal]

this was not during an update

this is an old one from Decmber

one of my first actually

[pallid salmon]

still, deciding whether to see them as "good" is subjective
if you set the bar too high for yourself you'll never be satisfied

[fair narwhal]

it makes all the weapons rapid fire, including geology cannon, and apparently it was good enough that 16 ppl thumbed up it

i mean that's something right?

[pallid salmon]

if you think it's good enough then it is
loads of ppl download mods and love it without endorsing

[fair narwhal]

so endorsing means they liked it a lot

[pallid salmon]

sure

[fair narwhal]

i mean i kinda doubt myself

[solid hawk]

Or some just feel obligated to endorse any they download. Personal preference on the part of the user.

[fair narwhal]

yeah bit it isnt an obligation

theres tons of mods out there with 0 endorsements

[solid hawk]

...and there's mods with thousands. Ostensibly meaningless.

[fair narwhal]

doesnt yours have like 2k?

or like 10k

i dont use them so idk

[pallid salmon]

bit silly to count yours against someone who has been one of the pillars of nms modding for so long
like I said earlier, if you do that you'll never be satisfied

[solid hawk]

I have several with over 1k. I don't pay much attention to it.

[fair narwhal]

of course

i did not mean to insinuate that

[solid hawk]

Especially since there's multiple top 20 endorsed, for NMS, which have been abandoned and dead for years.

I tell new players not even to look at that, as they'll wind up downloading non-functional mods.

[fair narwhal]

i am well aware of my insignificance..

[solid hawk]

Best thing you can do for mods, is you do you, for you.

[fair narwhal]

mariti thought i was comparing myself to you when i wasnt

[solid hawk]

You just make the mods that bring you joy or achive some goal you have.

[fair narwhal]

i make ones that ..apparently make some people laugh

[solid hawk]

That's it. People can take or leave them, as they wish.

[fair narwhal]

imnot lying, people have laughed

im surprised nexus doesnt call mine shitposts

due to how weird they are

this is what my folder looks like, babs , would nexus mind if my folders are named these things?

i wanna upload dump the whole folder

[solid hawk]

If you want to write a detailed description of all of that, specifying good and bad, go ahead.

[pallid salmon]

if you have files with adult language you have to tag them as such
https://help.nexusmods.com/article/28-file-submission-guidelines

[fair narwhal]

lots of my mods are in the testing state

[solid hawk]

Yep and if you don't describe properly and messes with someones game, they can report and if a ToS violation, can get you banned.

Probably best for you to keep it as one mod per mod page.

Then can create a collections, incorporating all of them, if you wish

[pallid salmon]

probably get more traction uploading 1 per anyway, if that's what you're looking for

[fair narwhal]

i have you guys to thank for teaching me to mod

especially gumsk, he taught me some stuff

like how to use the the tools , ect, but the rest, i learned by messing shit up

changing values, swapping this and that , yadda yadda

really fun and easy

once you get the mbin to be an mxml, you can basically do anything you want with it, and then save as EXML, and bingo, you're done, but make backups of the previous mods you had, so you don't overwrite them and lose the ones that worked

i have crashed myself hundred of times

[polar bobcat]

i am trying to hunt down my corvette in persistentplayerbases and it doesn't exist. it's the right save! i have gone through every SINGLE entry there and i haven't found one that matches the name

[final hazel]

The base's name does not match the ship's name, at least from what I recall, their name is always "Default"

the main signs that it's a corvette base are that it's base type is "playershipbase" and that it's userdata value matches the ship slot of the corvette instead of being 0

[polar bobcat]

are the corvette ship slots ordered by date of creation or date of last use?

[solar frigate]

I need help with learning to mod games it’s the files I’m not trying to mod no man sky but hopefully you guys know

[final hazel]

starship slots are ordered by creation/claiming, with openings being made when ships are scrapped/archived/etc. Corvette base entries (and all other base entries) in the persistentplayerbases are ordered oldest to newest, with deleted ones shifting everything up to fill in the gap I believe

[polar bobcat]

gotcha, i found it 🫡 thanks a bunch

also, base builder experts, is just copying objects normal and fine? i know that's what the page recommends for corvettes but i'm not sure why exactly

[solid hawk]

See http://tinyurl.com/nmsmodding550 for NMS modding

[polar bobcat]

just to be sure- people that make corvettes using base parts are now pretty much only using the base building app, yeah?

there's no easier way to do this?

[final hazel]

"using base parts"?

There is not an alternative to this

[polar bobcat]

the patched method of adding base exclusive parts to a corvette 🫡 panels/walls being the main culprits here

i know you used to be able to do it vanilla

[final hazel]

Oh, you mean planet base parts? You can just do that with Beyond Base Building https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1096

[polar bobcat]

[pallid salmon]

considering glitch building was nerfed into the ground for most ppl somewhat recently, I'd say base builder has gotten much more useful

[polar bobcat]

it's specifically for corvette interior work so i think thisll work for now

base builder scary

[pallid salmon]

nooooo BB ez pz

[polar bobcat]

base builder is a lot scarier when you're going in without any plan for what you're going to build like i do

definitely easier to do that when you're just fucking around in the simple easy editor lmao

[pallid salmon]

ig

[fair narwhal]

Yeah it's so easy

No fuss no problem

[neon mural]

Are there any mods on PC to change the colour of the decorations?

[solid hawk]

Beyond Base Building allows recolor of some objects which cannot be recolored in vanilla. Does this by setting the property CanChangeColour to true for all build objects. Be aware, this is not some magic 100% works in every case, as some objects would require additional changes in files other than the one this mod makes changes to.