nms-spoilers

[sand karma]

Expedition is live

[old hornet]

it sounded like he was gonna announce something but i'm content with what he said if that's it

[severe sun]

Can you mouse over the optional milestone to see what the reward is

[subtle gorge]

Yeah, but also roguelites can also loop or be played indefinetly

[worn jolt]

Now you may cry if you cant play it

[subtle gorge]

Risk of Rain is an obvious one

[uncut harness]

No patch notes yet?

[sand karma]

No, but expedition is out

[vital helm]

I love that game, but I can't talk about it here

[hybrid pendant]

I dont think we will get a trailer

[uncut harness]

That's is weird

[vital helm]

gleam is watching

[uncut harness]

Giving PS folks a headstart

[sand karma]

Fairly common tbh

[subtle gorge]

play noita this is a threat

[hybrid pendant]

@uncut harness its an expedition

[subtle gorge]

i will stop now

[vital helm]

wdym, I'm a fan of that game

[frigid silo]

First goal is to die , just so you know

[severe sun]

hm, maybe not completing the game then. Wonder what it is

[subtle gorge]

good

[hybrid pendant]

This expedition gonna be interesting

[old hornet]

as far as expeditions go this one sounds pretty unique i guess

[hybrid pendant]

For sure this one seems the most wtf one

[uncut harness]

A destiny fulfilled

[wild vigil]

ohhhh i see how this is gonna work

you get to the anchor points

[sand karma]

Wtf is good to be honest. People were complaining Expeditions might get stale.

[wild vigil]

im assuming if you die after that

you reset to that point

[sand karma]

Seems likely

[uncut harness]

Also that dark Atlas Interface icon

Hngngnngng

[vital helm]

I'm gonna go check out the rewards for this months exped

[uncut harness]

Gotta get it

[open nest]

i died 2 mins in NSNMSMS

damn animal attacked

[vital helm]

Surprise love

[open nest]

never tried permadeath until now T T

[sand karma]

Well dying is intended 😄

[open nest]

well i knew i was going to die at some point but not almost immediately T T

[severe sun]

I've been practicing for years on my main save. This is my time to shine

[severe sun]

Are you the real milk or a different milk?

[open nest]

different milk, i’m new here

[severe sun]

Cool cool, welcome

[sand karma]

Thanks for giving me a laugh on a long, long Wednesday. 😛

[polar ember]

Sean says this update isn’t expedition only

But haven’t seen much yet

So idk if I believe you Sean

[sand karma]

He says "we normally don't release Expedition outside of updates"

[south dome]

living Frigates?

[polar ember]

Yeah

[potent lark]

what is in the update?

[icy citrus]

He said they don't release them instead of. Planned updates aren't being replaced by expeditions

[vague badge]

https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1529440088542916608

Sean Murray (@NoMansSky)

Expeditions have been super popular. We know there are a ton of people playing right now, and Expeditions are where a lot of the community spend their time 🙏

We never release Expeditions instead of updates, but rather "as well as" planned updates ❤️

Twitter · May 25, 2022, 12:31 PM

[polar ember]

Right now it’s an expedition

[gloomy shadow]

If I do this expedition can I have the rewards on my main save ? Never done expedition

[polar ember]

Yes

[gloomy shadow]

Cool thanks

[potent lark]

yay 😐

[sand karma]

Oh right I missed the PLANNED updates. So your interpretation seems correct Gleam.

[vague badge]

The new content isn't placed in front of us this time. We'll have to figure it out until patch notes drop

[polar ember]

You go to the quick silver store in the anomaly

On your main

[molten karma]

I definitely think there is more to this update but its something very minor most likely.

[polar ember]

You can claim the stuff

Yeah

Maybe some combat scenarios

[sand karma]

There are usually some bugfixes with an Expedition as well

[polar ember]

Or living ship stuff

[vague badge]

Can we milk the space whales? 💦

[polar ember]

Living space station when

[proper stone]

Is it known what is universal loop?

[wild vigil]

idk man

[polar ember]

Hmm 14 minutes since last tweet

Calling next tweet is patch notes

[dusky gazelle]

Permadeath expedition!!!!!!!!!

[sand karma]

Or a quick coffee break cuz Sean is getting tired of trolling us 😄

[urban crest]

nwe trailer

on youtube

it is space whales confirmed

[sand karma]

Thanks

[old hornet]

what

[woeful root]

https://youtu.be/wtNg3TR_cGM

[tulip ledge]

So, anything new

[sand karma]

Name of update seems to confirm Expedition only as well

[hybrid pendant]

Told you.

[urban crest]

looks like asteroids are seen from farther

[polar ember]

Mid trailer

[old hornet]

what did the tweet mean then

[polar ember]

Idk

Maybe change of norm

Is what I think

[hybrid pendant]

Whales living ships

[sand karma]

As gleam said: "We aren't replacing updates with Expeditions" note he said PLANNED updates, rather than updates.

[polar ember]

Him saying we don’t usually do this but we are doing it this time

[hybrid pendant]

Space whales

[compact coyote]

Yeaaaaaaahhhh!

[old hornet]

i still like the whales and the expedition idc

[sand karma]

🐋Space Whales!
🕹️New Expedition
🥰Whalestalker Cloak
🌍Community goal
🧠New narrative
💀Roguelike Mechanic
🚀Organic Frigate Reward
🔮Temporal Starship Trail

[subtle gorge]

@sand karma screams

[south shadow]

Agreed

[fallen warren]

Space whale's!

[livid oracle]

Now when press TAB, the ship page now shows the sail of your solarship

[sand karma]

HAHA same

https://www.nomanssky.com/2022/05/expedition-seven-leviathan/

[sudden sandal]

expedition only update confirmed !

[old hornet]

oooh the cards look cool

[sand karma]

Couple of bugfixes too, but yeah mostly Expedition

[old hornet]

neat

[sand karma]

"PvP will default to off during this expedition." Thank the Atlas for that.

[old hornet]

oh my god can you imagine

[sand karma]

I know right.

"The default craft amount for Creature Pellets has been increased, allowing more pellets to be crafted for the same cost." yay

You can claim the space whale frigate in any mode

[polar ember]

Booooo

L Sean

[desert wagon]

So not a living freighter but a living frigate

Cool

[compact coyote]

This is the most interesting expedition I’ve seen tbh

[uncut harness]

PvP will default to off during this expedition

Wheres that person with the genius idea of forcing PVP on players?

[hybrid pendant]

Damn this expedition looks quite

Cooperative

As players explore the loop, they will recover Memory Fragments, lost remnants of previous loops. These manifest as procedurally generated technology, meaning each reset of the loop may play out very differently.

Hmm

Soo as u die things are slighty different

[sand karma]

And also "The more Travellers that participate in the research, the stronger the Memory Fragments become, manifesting in better upgrades, more inventory space, and stronger Multi-Tools and starships."

[hybrid pendant]

Tbh

That like a fucking content update

[uncut harness]

This all sounds really cool but also I hate having to redo stuff lol

[hybrid pendant]

Even if its a expedition

[sand karma]

From what I'm hearing there isn't as much re-doing as you'd think

[uncut harness]

Nice

[wild vigil]

for some reason I'm unable to take off in the expedition

my game just crashes and i never gain control of the ship

[dim zealot]

anyone else having issues with the die milestone? i have died a couple times, its never popped and not given me the BP for Hermetic Seal

[wild vigil]

wait a bit after dying

[gusty stream]

Blood for the blood God, memory shards for the abyss

[open nest]

now i’m waiting to die

again

[open nest]

does dying the first time around doesn’t count?

[wild vigil]

it does

just wait

I killed myself via fall damage, loaded save and after waiting a little bit it counted

[open nest]

dammit i wished i knew that before i tried dying

😭😭

[ionic crane]

oh my god

roguelike NMS

[tame grotto]

it depends on the expedition and if there's additional /new content that comes with it

[ionic crane]

They added a bunch of roguelike elements I guess. Plus all the items that go with it.

[grizzled apex]

None in exped 7.
Expedition patches, at the very least the expedition logo needs to be added

[open nest]

wait loaded save? doesn’t it like delete ur save if u die??

[grizzled apex]

Not discounting rewards, which HG always make new ones of, at the very least for the last reward

[ionic crane]

It resets your iteration. It's not permadeath.

[wispy helm]

FWIW, I can confirm that within the exe there is no new planet type or something like that. Unless it's hidden away deeper or not where I'd expect it. Will know for sure within a day or so though once I have finished mapping out the new stuff

[ionic crane]

But also... this isn't 4.0

[open nest]

hUh it kicked me out when i died tho

[ionic crane]

3.90

Strange

[tame grotto]

If there are new QS rewards, that's also new "content" that must be saved as part of the game.

[ionic crane]

So is this the 🐳

[grizzled apex]

4.0 is likely the switch release update. We might hear more about it soon if HG has a similar strategy to the VR and Xbox launch

[open nest]

oh wait i’m just dumb

JNSNSNSN

[ionic crane]

lmao

[grizzled apex]

That's... The thing. HG never releases an expedition without new "content" under any definition. So expeditions must be preceded by an update.

[tame grotto]

re-released expeditions could release without new content tho

it depends.

[grizzled apex]

Content here also being parts essential for the expedition, which can't be transmitted over the cloud.

[uncut harness]

For someone who hasn't played stuff like that, what does it mean rogue like?

Like what mechanics

[grizzled apex]

They, as of yet, have only released tweaked versions of expeditions tho, which need new missions or changes to existing ones, which needs an update to the game since missions can't be sent over HG's CDN

But older expeditions can be played through again if HG allow for it

Without any changes that is

[tame grotto]

you can read the explanation from HG directly: https://www.pcgamesn.com/no-mans-sky/expeditions-microsoft-azure

“We don’t want people hacking the game client to unlock this mode early or seeing what’s coming, or whatever, so all that data lives in the cloud,” Brown explains, referring to the Expeditions. “It lives in table storage within Azure and then, at a given time, it will be downloaded to all the clients as they need it.”

[ionic crane]

Roguelikes have been widened out in definition in the modern era, but largely it refers to run-based gameplay and procedural generation.

[grizzled apex]

I've worked with the entire system for 2 months now, I think I know how it works but, thanks for the reference

[ionic crane]

Generally, you die, you start over.

[tame grotto]

i mean, you can read what HG themselves have stated about setup

[ionic crane]

Games like the Binding of Isaac, Dead Cells, and Spelunky

[uncut harness]

You start from the very start?

[ionic crane]

From a new start.

[uncut harness]

Like no check point mechanics, no saves?

[ionic crane]

This one seems to have elements that carry over though.

[heady wyvern]

Death resulting in the removal of all progress, but often being able to work off the results of your previous "runs" (Nethack having the corpses of previous characters, games like The Binding of Isaac having unlockable items...)

[ionic crane]

Yeah, corpse runs or unlockables.

[grizzled apex]

That's why I thanked you for the additional resource

[ionic crane]

Games like Rogue Legacy and Organ Trail have unlockable stuff

[wispy helm]

lol, definitely a "modders were too quick at finding stuff in the games' files and we had to stop them" 😅

[ionic crane]

Shoot, I reflexively booted my regular save

[radiant mica]

wake up, open steam, 7GB update for NMS

Today is gonna be a good day

[heady wyvern]

Expedition day, interloper.

I know, caught me off guard too.

[open nest]

istg

hostile ships

KEEP COMING AFTER ME

[jolly thicket]

so I seem to have hit a bug already on the expedition - the hermetic seal can't be obtained

[open nest]

u gotta die

[jolly thicket]

I did - several times - still doesn't unlock

[open nest]

did u load into the same save?? ||asking bc i’m dumb and i did that||

[jolly thicket]

I started a new save ...

[open nest]

load the same save

[jolly thicket]

wait what ...

[open nest]

the save you died in should be there, just load into it

[mint hollow]

So perma death on this doesn't delete the save?

[jolly thicket]

that is ... confusing as hell

[open nest]

no but it just restart everything

[mint hollow]

Oh god the sentinels

I've never played permadeath

[open nest]

same until now

i ended up creating three new save trying to get the milestone xD

[livid oracle]

I already got liquid suns and the memory thing, not even trying the derelict freighter yet.

[mint hollow]

oh god

The personal shield and stealth will be very useful

[gusty berry]

does this belong here or #nms-photomode-gallery

either way I just wanna show off

[uncut harness]

♾️

[gusty berry]

custom body colours yadayada

[surreal brook]

oof dinky stacks 😭

[lone solar]

the save gets deleted when you die

[proper stone]

in this expedition it does not

[lone solar]

well it did for me lol

ohh nevermind.. I was confused because I only had one save slot left

apparently those don't occupy save slots

[latent nexus]

Mine is the red one >:]

[wispy helm]

A new "Deep Space" frigate flyby type has been added to the game...

[gloomy shadow]

Meaning we don’t have to do the expedition for having one ?

[wispy helm]

no idea. Just saying it was added. No idea if anything uses it or not yet

[strong mantle]

Oh hello, this new expedition is in Permadeath.

[tepid iris]

Wait not survival ?

D:

[brisk palm]

We now have living frigates. It only a matter of time til living freighters

[mint hollow]

Living planets after freighters

[candid lark]

Its survival difficulty in perma-death mode, with a time loop meaning it doesnt delete the save, but does make you go back to the beginning

[brisk palm]

I’d consider the living ship anomaly planets somewhat alive

[strong mantle]

The rewards better be worth this.

[fallow beacon]

I honestly liked this expedition

What i don't like so much is the community mission but we have plenty of time to wait for it

[soft hedge]

Wait, you guys finished the expedition already?

How many hours of playtime?

[gusty berry]

0

I have the power of Consumerism on my side

[soft hedge]

oh, you used the save editor

[gusty berry]

no

I told you I have Consumerism

[soft hedge]

meaning? You can't buy expedition rewards, can you?

[gusty berry]

I can

and I did

with the power of Consumerism

[austere tartan]

What

[icy citrus]

Mod

[sand karma]

I thought using the resonator and finding the anchor would reset me there at phase 2, but now I'm all the way back at the start 😭

Did I misunderstand that part and does it always plop you back at the beginning?

[ionic crane]

I don't think the anchors actually save your spot, no :(

I think the community missions are probably easy enough. Farther in, I'm gonna start feeding creatures and sunning resource deposits

I guess doing that will actually help everyone, right?

Makes everyone's blind boxes better

🤔 Maybe I'll do that sooner then

🤔 Or make a second expedition save for that purpose. Don't wanna be too risky.

Also, I destroyed a pillar early on because I saw it nearby. Turns out that was a mission.

I should probably back up my save between sessions at least

[frosty nebula]

gosh, does it really put you all the way back at the start 😭 thats so unforgiving

something i was wondering about the expedition - because its a survival/permadeath and your file gets "reset" on every death, do you get to re-acquire the previous expedition rewards every time? e.g. if i picked up golden vector in exp 7, die, would it be re-available to pick up again if i go back to the anomaly?

[dense marlin]

If u finish it there is no problem

ALSO mission progress is saved

But however materials R not

[dense marlin]

^

[frosty nebula]

🤔

uh, so previous expedition rewards that are not inventory items are, or are not re-acquirable?

like, assuming the golden vector gets "deleted" after the reset/death, would i be able to pick it up again heading to the anomaly?

[dense marlin]

Previous expidition items ARE acquirable because they replay old expeditions once in a while

[frosty nebula]

no, i mean in this current expedition, like... you can only claim rewards once per save file

if that makes sense ;__;

[dense marlin]

U can get the golden vector by other means

[dense marlin]

U only have to get them once and access on All saves via quicksilver companion

It's a bit confusing

Init

[frosty nebula]

i know that 😭 i mean for this specific expedition

because of the nature of the expedition being death resets your file, but some things stay consistent in this file (as opposed to actual permadeath), i'm wondering if the "one-time expedition claim" thing applies to this, or if the death reset in this expedition also resets the state of claimable items

[dense marlin]

R u doing the expidituon for the starship trail or the loving frigate

[frosty nebula]

the completionist in me wants it all ^^ the rewards this time around are all really neat!

[desert wagon]

The new effect when you summon the anomaly is dope

[dense phoenix]

So death is part of the new expedition, but my game crashes when I die

And my data is gone

[velvet ivy]

That's a good question, I have no idea yet.

[dense phoenix]

Yeah i think i have to sit this one out as I can't play like this

[frosty nebula]

i guess we'll figure it out eventually 😭 picked up the cosmetics, i guess ill test it through that and see if i gotta pick them up again after the next reset

[frosty nebula]

hopefully hg will fix whatever the issue is for you :( might be worth sending in a bug report on zendesk!

[dense phoenix]

It's been like that for a while, that's why i avoid dying at any cost

[frosty nebula]

oh, in all game modes? thats frustrating D:
have you sent in anything about it yet?

[dense phoenix]

No
Don't know how

[frosty nebula]

give this a shot :)
https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[icy citrus]

You can also use a command

!hg

[cloud jolt]

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[eternal radish]

I would like to have more varied QS missions.

[prime inlet]

it's a gigantic living ship

a creature from the abyss

[craggy plover]

@tame grotto || https://youtu.be/TNueQ0M00w8 ||

[jovial violet]

i love them

[icy citrus]

We have #nms-expedition for any talk or screens with Leviathan

[ruby crane]

Anyone speculating why one expedition has such a big update size? There have been whole content updates that were smaller than this thinking

[proud hemlock]

Are the whales in main game?

[compact coyote]

Just killed my self for the first time

[supple hollow]

This is the new posters translated!

[rare ledge]

hi guys ! I finished the expediton but I can't claim the last frigate reward, is that normal ?

[supple hollow]

It’s a bug, lots of people can’t

Hopefully it will be fixed in the next patch!

[rare ledge]

oh ok, I hope I will not have to do it another time

but honestly that was amazing I really love this expedition

[mental socket]

!hg

Oops. Gotta do in #no-mans-sky

[tame grotto]

Odd it didn't work. Will look into it.

[drowsy dune]

What are the “first spawn” I have 70 hours in no mans sky and this bit of lore kinda scares me

[frosty nebula]

the pre-altered gek, iirc, you'll learn more as you look into gek (and korvax) lore :)

[craggy plover]

Wow I stink

Got it!

[open nest]

is it possible to delete a base computer in the expedition?? i tried deleting one but doesn’t work

[tame grotto]

did you inspect it? it's as if you're deleting a base sorta thing.

[tame grotto]

it should give you the option to delete the base (even if you've built nothing)

[open nest]

is it from the build menu? like edit placed parts option

i never deleted a base comp before so i might have done it wrongly

[tame grotto]

no, like you've placed down the base computer. you go up to it, and on xbox i click x to inspect the "base", where you can edit its name and upload it, there should be another option to delete it.

[open nest]

OH

got it JSNKSS sorry 😭😭

[rancid ether]

Wake the Past milestone was a real dirty move imo lol

[uncut harness]

Why did the space whale kill me

[tame grotto]

so pretty

[tepid iris]

has anything been datamined yet in Leviathan? 🙂

[icy citrus]

Only thing I have seen so far #nms-spoilers message

[tepid iris]

Nice, thanks 🙂

[wild vigil]

i swear to god

i submitted to the leviathan

if this wiped out my progress im fuckin done

since that had no indication it said it'd kill me

ok good

im still alive

just

in a different place

nice

got scared for a moment there

[narrow cove]

Wdym mission progress is saved, I lost all mine when I died unless I'm being dumb and misreading this

[uncut harness]

I fancy myself giant intergalactic calamari

[dense marlin]

I am mistaken

Sorry

[narrow cove]

gucci, i was confuzzled for a second lol

[dense marlin]

Nice discord name

🤣

Have a sean day

[round dagger]

where da sean faces ingame

[soft basin]

does the choice between the different colored orbs at the end of atlas path a big deal?

[torn oasis]

It determines what type of galaxy, so if you're looking for specific planets kinda

There's a page on the wiki that shows what planets like to spawn in what galaxy, you can check it if it matters to you

wait

Wait I might be wrong I might be thinking of the wrong questline

[heady wyvern]

Some people, especially newbies, erroneously refer to Artemis's quest line as the Atlas Path.

The multicolored orbs are from Artemis's quest.

[uncut harness]

Bruh

[heady wyvern]

No such equivalent exists for the actual Atlas Path.

[torn oasis]

Ahhh I see

Thanks I guess lmao

[heady wyvern]

In all fairness, the closest thing we have to an official title for it is the "Atlas Rising" Line.

[torn oasis]

Yeah

[heady wyvern]

After the Atlas Rising update, of course.

[torn oasis]

It seems like so long ago

[dense marlin]

Not actually any where

[round dagger]

there’s actually a mod that makes em into every entity head

[mental socket]

got any of them datamines?

[soft basin]

Mb

[soft basin]

I'm in the hilbert dimension, can I still get to teh europa galaxy and stuff, like use portals to find stuff off of nmscoordinateexchange?

[eternal radish]

Europa? You mean Euclid? Lmao

[eternal radish]

Look for featured bases in the Anomaly that take you to Euclid and then fly somewhere else and establish a base there

[soft basin]

ye lol

[modest wagon]

Should i submit to the leviathan? Lol i dont want to screw up the last milestone

[safe kiln]

Yes

[uncut harness]

Once you get to the end of Artemis quest it’s really hard to give a shit about the rest of the story

[candid lark]

everything else just adds to the details of the overall story

basically, the story is that we are all living in a simulation run by the atlas and policed by the sentinels, but the atlas only has 16 minutes to live but not on the in game timescale, but the timescale of the real world

Theres a lot of Matrix-like storyline

[uncut harness]

Yeah that’s why it’s hard to give a shit

If it was a cosmic horror story like I originally thought I’d still be paying attention

[chilly grotto]

unfortunately (imo) when you realize that the entire plot of what happens in game is basically the classic "its all a dream" trope, it loses all its gravity and meaning

[candid lark]

Its not a dream

its a computer simulation

very much like The Matrix

You are apparantly Neo, Nada and Polo are trinity and Morpheus, the anomaly exists both inside AND outside the simulation, the sentinels are basically Agents, and Ariadne is Agent Smith

[round dagger]

Target in range

[leaden tapir]

how the hell do we progress in this expedition

[safe kiln]

Ah, but it is cosmic horror

The atlas is still a terrifying eldritch deity

[real sapphire]

well holy, a living frigate appears as an anomalous space encounter, normal save

bugged UI tho

[steep radish]

definitely saving this one 👌
NICE

the fact that we get a whale flute and we can't play it put loud hurts me to my core

oh hell na the mf whale killed me!!!

traitorous whale!!!!!!

[icy citrus]

Ok. This channel is for spoilers. The existence of the bio frigate is not a spoiler. We have #nms-expedition for expedition talk.

[real sapphire]

Yes, noted. I actually encountered the living frigate as random space encounter in my normal save, not expedition save tho

[icy citrus]

I getcha, still isnt a spoiler 😛

[eternal radish]

It was a spoiler

[icy citrus]

Now, specific lore from the expedition most definitely is

But what you have to do, or the rewards - no

[real sapphire]

alrighty then, thanks!

[icy citrus]

#nms-expedition

[desert wagon]

Thank you, didn't see that

[grim raven]

@thorny rover @uncut harness

lets go here because the lore is cool and i dont wanna ruin it for anyone

[uncut harness]

basically they all suck

[grim raven]

im not saying thats wrong

[uncut harness]

personally I think the vykeen are the most immoral

[grim raven]

im saying the gek suck the most

[grim raven]

vykeen arent immoral theyre very murder-y

[uncut harness]

the gek did some bad stuff in the past

[thorny rover]

yeah

[grim raven]

some?

ok take the base merchants

[uncut harness]

they fight for no reason, they follow a prophet who built their religion on a lie, fought and lied some more, fought the gek, pretended to help the korvax, etc

[grim raven]

the gek is extremely untrustworthy and manipulative

the vykeen wants to kill sentinels

and the korvax is very friendly if not a bit weird

[thorny rover]

but the sentinels are cute

[uncut harness]

the korvax are the most unnerving to me

[thorny rover]

well behave normal when you literally see through thousands of carapaces

[grim raven]

i personally think the sentinels are neutal

[grim raven]

fair

[uncut harness]

the gek are untrustworthy, the korvax are mysterious and unnerving, the vykeen are straight up assholes

again aspects of humanity

[thorny rover]

I mean, they just want to protect planets, and make sure everyone behaves

[thorny rover]

yeah, its like a human made it

[uncut harness]

really?

lol

[grim raven]

mysterious and unnerving arent reasons to distrust a species

[thorny rover]

yeah, had to do it

[uncut harness]

technically the sentinels are the nms bad guys

[grim raven]

technically

but lorewise its the gek

[uncut harness]

they are secretive, they keep to themselves, they do not like to share

[grim raven]

so

introverts

[uncut harness]

lorewise it is the sentinels

and not the gek

[thorny rover]

it kinda is, you don't trust an agitated man that seems to friendly

[thorny rover]

lorewise is the creator

[uncut harness]

you even see those traits in nada, who left the convergence and hates the korvax for what they are

polo and nada are lawful good

[thorny rover]

He could have just jerk off instead of creating us

[grim raven]

youre saying you think the korvax are bad

because

theyre basically scientific introverts

yeah checks out

[uncut harness]

im saying all the races have been made to be equally as bad

[grim raven]

no

[uncut harness]

I mean

yes they have

thats the point

[thorny rover]

I mean, nada is like a teenage boy, doesn't trust and hates ANYONE with a hint of power

[grim raven]

you have said a grand total of one thing that makes the korvax bad

[uncut harness]

human experimentation

[thorny rover]

they aren't good either

[uncut harness]

secrecy and selfishness

the desire for more

[thorny rover]

but when did they experiment, Name one example

[thorny rover]

the thing that links all 3 species is this

[grim raven]

bruh the gek wiped out an entire planet

committed literal genocide

[uncut harness]

When the korvax started finding travellers and anomalies, they experimented on them due to their justified "curiosity"

[thorny rover]

but many mining corporations did tens of planets

[uncut harness]

that was thousands if not millions of years ago

the korvax experiments are recent

current even

[grim raven]

hey peaceful mind explaining this interesting little bit of dialogue

[thorny rover]

I mean, who wouldn't, they are new, we also do that to new species that we discover

[uncut harness]

by experiment I mean mutilate them

[grim raven]

example?

[uncut harness]

not look at them and ask them some friendly questions

[uncut harness]

man they dont have a korvax sat in a building with a knife and a traveller on a table

its the text

the lore

[thorny rover]

I would love to see that ngl

[uncut harness]

albeit more underground lore

[grim raven]

still waiting for an explanation

[uncut harness]

it definitely exists

[thorny rover]

brb gonna search the wiki

[uncut harness]

where does it come from

[grim raven]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Faction#Relations

[grim raven]

its a quote from the player to -null-

[uncut harness]

doesnt sound like the player said that

considering the player doesnt say anything

[grim raven]

thats just wrong my man

thats just very wrong

[uncut harness]

give me an example

anything the player thinks is in the black box

anything the player says isnt direct text, it is something like "I replied to..."

[grim raven]

have you done the main questline

[uncut harness]

Ive done it multiple times

[grim raven]

I tell -null- all that I have learned. Of the Vy'keen crusade against the Sentinels. How they nearly succeeded, only to have the barbarism of the Gek First Spawn draw the Sentinels back to the galaxy. I learned that the homeworld of the Korvax was destroyed by the Gek, the survivors enslaved or melted down. For years the Korvax toiled beneath their oppressor's, until the empire fell and they were free once more. The Gek became Atlas worshippers. But from the Gek, I learned something different. The Gek did not redeem themselves of their own accord. A great number of Korvax sacrificed themselves, mingling their Nanite blood with countless unborn Gek. Their impulse to trade is a mere evolution of their impulse to war, a few signals switched in the brain.

full text box there

its not exactly what is said but the player still said it

[uncut harness]

The archive texts have a lot of lore

fills in gaps

Establish friendly relations with all potential [REDACTED]. Many species vary in their ability to understand such attempts. Pheromones are not universal. Distrust is everywhere.

Therefore, policy recommends explicit reference to friendship. For example, 'Korvax-Friend', 'Vy'keen-Brother', '[REDACTED]-ally.

Note that Sentinels DO NOT understand or express friendship. Any behaviour to the contrary should be reported to the Trade Federation and considered an early warning of [REDACTED].

Trading Partners must NOT be depleted of resources, or they cannot continue to trade. Our enemies must continue to thrive for Gek to achieve [REDACTED]

This one implies a fourth race, possibly refering to the travellers

the third part could relate to the trace of metal story

[grim raven]

ok thats cool

[uncut harness]

the last part shows how the korvax sacrifice did not fully change them

[grim raven]

but you still havent explained this

[grim raven]

ok so youre agreeing with me that the gek are a hostile lying race

[uncut harness]

yes

as are all the races

[grim raven]

already went over this

vykeen think lying isnt honorable

so they dont

korvax have no reason to lie

so they dont

[uncut harness]

the korvax keep secrets

they hoard

[grim raven]

hoard what

[uncut harness]

they hoard secrets

they are selfish, they desire more knowledge constantly, keeping it in their hivemind

[thorny rover]

well they don't have anything to hoard THANKS TO THE FIRST SPAWN WHO DESTROYED THE KORVAX PRIME REPOSITORY, effectively destroying 100 million years worth of knowledge

[grim raven]

the gek are more selfish

[uncut harness]

all the races are selfish

[grim raven]

this proves that their only motivation is greed

[grim raven]

and even so, being selfish isnt lying

[mental socket]

got any datamines yet?

[safe kiln]

how much lore is there in derelict freighter captain logs?

[final wyvern]

ive found around 3 unique ones i think

maybe 4 its not much

on this expedition theres only one tho

[safe kiln]

yeah, the expedition is different

in the regular game i've found one about Korvax that seem to rehabilitate fallen sentinels, and another about a Korvax in a non-mechanical body or some such

among others

[final wyvern]

theres teh water one and then the vykeen one

i think there are 2 from vykeen

and i searched

couldnt find any number

on how many unique ones there are

[ornate relic]

Kids

[tepid iris]

Wait

milestones reset after death?

[icy citrus]

#nms-expedition

[thorny rover]

@void gust

[void gust]

Gimme gimme lore >:D

[thorny rover]

Anyway, the thing gek said was kinda like this, "I saw the Korvax running a blade through its carapace, effectively sacrificing their immortality in the spawn pools, those nanites rewrote geks, made them no longer needing korvax,replaced their fight instincts for trading, they were no longer gek, but part korvax, we are no longer violent, we want peace, we want to be left alone"

Which got me thinking, they are no longer gek, but rather organic korvax, no longer wanting war, but peace

So I kinda changed my mind about them, and no longer feel like killing them

[cedar silo]

Yep. This is how come there is no sympathy. I myself feel this was very much deserved. Without an uprising or a change the korvax would still be enslaved. And the gek would still have their empire.

Gek scum. And only those affected and their offspring were changed by the nanites.

[void gust]

The Gek of today are still shmucks

[cedar silo]

Ty

[thorny rover]

For the First Spawn, absolutely, but for modern geks, they did nothing wrong, they were just born when it happened, they don't deserve that much hate

[cedar silo]

Though you're very much correct. They are now half breed korvax.

Programmed for peace.

[void gust]

Yes, they don’t deserve the idea of running a blade through their face because it was only their ancestors that did this

But they still make me wanna run a blade through their face because these little shits are so damn greedy and sarcastic

[thorny rover]

Yeah, still dislike them, but I don't longer antangonize them

[cedar silo]

No sins of the father murder or genocide. But I know who they are to the core of their peaceful programming. I'd still befriend a vykeen first. 🙃

[void gust]

Their urge to trade is what replaced their urge to conquer… which is a disturbing thought because they trade a LOT

[thorny rover]

I guess I will become a vy'keen hunter

[void gust]

That’s fine because the Vykeen will find honor in battle

[cedar silo]

They welcome it as warriors.

[thorny rover]

Yeah, but their whole religion is a lie

[void gust]

Leave the Korvax alone tho

[cedar silo]

Well. Korvax have ties to sentinels.

[thorny rover]

I mean, I cosplay myself as a combat Korvax, inhabitating a combat-specialized carapace

[thorny rover]

Only because of Atlas

[cedar silo]

You know your history I can respect it.

[void gust]

They’ve been through a lot and they find another thing like them, another hive mind. Kinda makes sense

Atlas protecc

[cedar silo]

Atlas itself is lost. The reason I cant hate there either.

[void gust]

If you’re an atheist, every religion is a lie. Their species spans many star systems. It would be hard to keep a consistent idea amongst that vast of a population

The Atlas doesn’t deserve hate

Those sentinel shits tho. Bash their little stupid “faces?” In

[cedar silo]

The sentinels even have purpose. It's just far too specific for any humanity to exist it what it seems.

[void gust]

It’s like a little kid that realized their parent wasn’t going to do anything about them doing something wrong so they got spoiled and just committed WORSE AND WORSE atrocities

The sentinels wiped out all biological life “in another reality”

[cedar silo]

You must plow the fields before planting seeds. And so they did.

[void gust]

The sentinels wiping out all life wasn’t the will of the Atlas tho. They did that as a result of the Atlas losing control

It might have served its purpose — maybe with something along the lines of that quote, but wiping all life wasn’t not intended upon their creation

That’s why there’s regular sentinels and corruption sentinels, those who have deviated from the will of the Atlas

[thorny rover]

The more I remember about the story, the more I understand, I now remember why all species figgt eachother, why in all universes, it ends in violence

Its because of Altas, Atlas cannot speak, Atlas cannot move, it can only create, so creating only conflict aligns on what we know

Atlas screams, its being corrupted as it shuts down, but it can only manifest that through life

[thorny rover]

Okay I was wrong, Atlas can scream, and omg its terrifying

[safe kiln]

Haven’t the sentinels all been taken over by the Abyss?

[thorny rover]

Its not taken over, just stay with the Abyss

They are now neutral

More or less

[safe kiln]

I see

[wary yoke]

||this is a spoiler||

[eternal radish]

I think the Sentinels are a security protocol gone rogue. It reminds me of Skynet (Terminator) and Control (Star Trek Discovery).

[thorny rover]

They are not rogue, just that their objective is flawed

''Purge any anomaly'' command leaves room for interpretation

What is an ''anomaly'' to sentinels?

Probably anything that disobeys rules

Which puts everyone at risk

[worn rain]

Can someone explain to me why we had to create a new galaxy at the end of the game? What did it help achieve for the Atlas?

[hexed token]

@round dagger I litearlly cannot do anything because my game is broken

not game

but like

literally everything is broken

[round dagger]

start repairing then, all you need for ship to move is launch gear

[hexed token]

i dont know where my ship is and i literally cannot move anything

[round dagger]

you cant walk?

[hexed token]

okay i just clutched up

i could actually fix the hazard protection

[round dagger]

also, having broken your oxygen module, do not repair it its infinite oxy lol

[hexed token]

i think im good for now

[round dagger]

just fix your scanner and your ship for now untiul you can go buy shit at the SS

[hexed token]

yeah okay cool

so apparently there are 255 galaxies

do you like

keep completing this story to progress through the galaxies or?

[spice gorge]

Does restoring a manually backed up file, after one dies in Exp 7, put you back in business, or is there some network kill-notification that's passed to HG servers that makes the restore of backup not let you resume? Anyone know?

PC Steam

[round dagger]

you realize the exped will reboot itself since The Loop Continues

no need to manually reboot a backup

[round dagger]

main storylines will only get you to the third

the rest is by taxi, or by warping youself

[spice gorge]

Right, but you loose all progress.

What I suggest is in an effort to not lose progress. Cheating, I guess.

[round dagger]

if your progress is before unlocking the required death, then theres no point

[hexed token]

where can i get a heart of the sun
?

[round dagger]

follow the Atlas path

[hexed token]

in the galaxy map?

[round dagger]

no, in your log of quests

[hexed token]

this is all i have in my log

[round dagger]

weird

[hexed token]

bug??!?

[spice gorge]

I did the required death first, long ago.

[heady wyvern]

Essentially, resetting the galaxy is Atlas's futile attempts to purge whatever's killing it. Unfortunately, the Atlas and everything within it is unaware that its an external force that's killing it - that information, to my knowledge, is only given in the Waking Titan ARG.

[worn rain]

Ok, thanks

And what exactly is killing the Atlas?

[heady wyvern]

I've heard that it's a black hole that's on the verge of swallowing whatever planet the Atlas's hardware is built upon.

[worn rain]

Thnx

[heady wyvern]

The Atlas is basically panicking and doing everything in its power to save itself.

[worn rain]

K

[round dagger]

idk then

[dapper axle]

Ok so weird thing. I've finished Expedition 7 successfully and have collected all the phase rewards. however, I can't claim the frigate reward for the entire expedition, as it says I've only completed 1 out of 5 phases.

Please tell me this is not normal

Idk if its the whole dying to finish the last milestone making this weird.

Also

[heady wyvern]

For now, this is normal. It's a known bug that will be fixed in the next patch.

[dapper axle]

Phew

Ok

Yeah

This whole dying thing has made milestones weird

Dying being a mechanic that is

[heady wyvern]

And the fact that the other milestones are technically optional and this is the only expedition thus far that's like this.

[dapper axle]

True

Hopefully it doesn't wipe my progress to fix this bug

[round dagger]

yee I want my fukin frigate

[dapper axle]

let me know when they actually decide to give will ya

[dense phoenix]

So is the Leviathan you get at the end just a frigate?

[tame grotto]

Correct.

...the space giant itself – The Leviathan – may be recruited as an organic addition to your capital ship’s frigate fleet.

[dense phoenix]

Hmm... kinda disappointing it's not a full freighter...
Normandy being a frigate you can't even land on was disappointing already

[thorny rover]

Yeah, but you can only have 1 freighter, so the frigate is a compromise

[safe kiln]

yeah, freighters themselves probably won't get anything unless people are allowed to own multiple

[eternal radish]

Well, a part of me is happy that it isn't a freighter because imagine boarding that thing 😝

[fierce bobcat]

So I am in the End (?) of the Artemis mission and after encountering Atlas for the second time, I got stuck in some endless warp?

[thorny rover]

oh, that glitch, you need to exit and enter again

[thorny rover]

Also you are not at the end, but close

[fierce bobcat]

ah

[wanton path]

omg last Leviathan expedition step

almost heart attack

[dense phoenix]

What does "Complete universal loop" mean?
Do i need to help Polo's research?

[thorny rover]

Yeah, its a global event

Like quicksilver rewards

[dense phoenix]

In that case imo Liquid Sun might be the easiest material
The one from animals is a bit tedious, and i don't enjoy derelicts enough to seek them out

[safe kiln]

i'm fairly sure the fastest is derelicts

liquid sun and ancestral memories are both safe, but tedious

the latter moreso

[bold quail]

Polo seems to be broken right now. Not responding for expedition turn-ins. Others in my anomaly are reporting the same

[safe kiln]

Online services are broken

[uncut harness]

can i speak about the exp final here?

[icy citrus]

If it's spoilers for the story sure, if it is just about the expedition use #nms-expedition

[uncut harness]

nice

the final quest scared me a little

besides that

i don't get how get eaten by the Leviathan breaks the loop

i mean if every iteraction who died by it resets

[modest pecan]

It's because those who got caught in the loop were trying to attack or capture it

To end the loop you submit to it, being peaceful about it

[glossy loom]

Should I tell Artemis died or nah

[thorny rover]

Do what your etchics say

[modest pecan]

There's no right or wrong answers with Artemis's quest

[pure night]

I would enjoy these frigates they giving us more if we wouldn't have e to delete current frigates for them

Also. Anyone kno what type of frigate is the leviathan?

[thorny rover]

its is own type, but it's best for trading and combat, also exploration

[worn rain]

Can someone tell me the lord of the current expedition, haven't had the time to play yet

[modest pecan]

You're caught in a time loop thanks to space whale

Turns out this is the fate of everyone who tries to capture or kill space whale, so you apologize to it and whale kills you to end the loop

[worn rain]

And how did the loop start?

Wait nvm

[ashen pecan]

Has its own type. Good all rounder tbf

[glossy loom]

Guys

Should I let the atlas kill me?

[shadow rock]

in what context

if its just saying Submit or something it probably won't kill you

probably

[glossy loom]

It says rn, I will let u die right now, if u wish it. Do u wish it?

Yes

No

[shadow rock]

I'd probably say no but it's your save

[outer kernel]

I honestly can't remember if it even matters cuz I don't think it actually does kill you...but then again, I never chose yes...

[shadow rock]

i wouldn't put it past em

[thorny rover]

It wont kill you, he will just have a weird silence and then change topics

[north parcel]

S class, I think it’s high in trade, could be wrong.

[broken dune]

will it affect my storyline if i choose to follow atlas?

[thorny rover]

No

[broken dune]

cause im just wondering i know in some games choices like that dont but they do offer extra side missions

cool thx

[thorny rover]

Almost all missions are avalible to complete

[broken dune]

cool thx man im outa here before i see a spoiler

lol

[thorny rover]

Spoiler, ||Batman appears to beat you for mining a rock||

[gusty tree]

What happens after you call the leviathan

[surreal brook]

UM ok ,,,who deleted my comment about finding a planet in nms?

[icy citrus]

A moderator, because it wasn't a spoiler.

[rough depot]

Has there been anymore datamined stuff

[wary oasis]

is the simulation you put artemis in the same as the one youre in

or, i think you're in one from the atlas station asking you if you want to reset it

[broken dune]

what does it mean when a material is activated

like activated cadmium

do you just sell that stuff or do you need it for something

[icy citrus]

#nms-questions

[broken dune]

wrong chat my b

[finite cobalt]

Talking w atlas rn

Do I initiate personality interface or wipe system

Idk the consequences of either

[icy citrus]

Either works

[finite cobalt]

Do I lose anything with the wipe @icy citrus

[icy citrus]

Nope

[finite cobalt]

Ty

[mint tiger]

I'm getting odd Purge countdown...

does that mean game will destroy my save for real? 🤔

cause I kinda wanna progress on other missions and everything before going to the center

[thorny rover]

Progress

Do it

[thorny rover]

It wont destroy your save

[mint tiger]

well I remember one traveler saying not to do it though 😄

aight I'll find some time to warp around

[eternal radish]

Null probably

Do it anyways. Ha!

[uncut harness]

If I complete The Purge or reset or reset the simulation will I lose The Atlas Path quest?

[icy citrus]

No

In fact, later you will be asking how the hell to get rid of it

[uncut harness]

Oh ok thank you. Just wondering because I was given 3 choices: Seek the Final Interface and Complete the Atlas Path and Explore the Galaxy. Just wondering if the choices there really matter.

Lol okay so it's an endless loop quest?

[icy citrus]

Yes for one thing

You get a choice, that you don't ever get again, if you seek the final interface. Whatever you do don't ignore or walk away, or that option is gone for good

Less impactful than what it once was- still a nice choice to be able to make

[uncut harness]

Really? That's interesting. Thank you very much 😊

I will Seek the final Interface then

[autumn wasp]

Oh I just put explore, the final interface is the one that switches the galaxy’s right? If yes then I was still able to do it

[thorny rover]

Yes

[icy citrus]

Not the option I was referring to

[autumn wasp]

Oh

[finite cobalt]

Should I refuse

Or reset

F it reset for lush but MAN is fixing my ship and stuff gonna be a pain

[proven thorn]

So has it been 16 minutes yet or we good

[autumn wasp]

16m is a long time is what I’ve learnt from this game

[analog breach]

First Stock up on repair units from derelicts freighters.

[tame perch]

huh, so the exosuit is kinda like the crysis nanosuit

it can act and exist on its own, even if the "host body" is dead

[tranquil trellis]

All my stuff is broken...? Once you complete the game?

[thorny rover]

Yeah, that's what happens when reset the simulation

[tranquil trellis]

I might need a little help haha, I had alot of stuff and ahhhhh

[thorny rover]

If you refused, you would have had an unbroken inventory

[oblique flower]

i never expected no man sky would go full matrix-crisis

[uncut harness]

one of the exp items says: "used 5 days ago" so we spend 5 days in the loop actually?

[thorny rover]

Hello, lets continue

[magic mesa]

Where does it say explicitly that the Gek are half Korvax? @thorny rover

[thorny rover]

@magic mesa

[thorny rover]

when talking with the gek cartographer

[magic mesa]

I thought that it was that the Korvax basically threw themselves into the First Spawn's spawning pools and their nanite-rich blood made them weaker and less agressive

[thorny rover]

I don't remember the dialogue 100%, but its like this: Korvax were slaves, they didn't like it, but they did something, you see, their souls are in their nanites, so they kinda drained their immortality from their carapace to infect the geks with korvax minds

which is why they also believe in atlas

[magic mesa]

They altered the Gek

But the Gek are not literally half Korvax now

[thorny rover]

not in the body form, but they essentially made geks akin to korvax

since the korvax soul changed and put themselves into gek dna

[magic mesa]

The nanites in their blood altered the Gek to become more docile and weaker

[thorny rover]

not docile, just make trading instead of killing

but in the the dialogue it says that geks are now part korvax

though i can't rewind time to see it again

[magic mesa]

It has been a long time since I have seen the dialogue

[thorny rover]

yeah, me too, until i played the story again

[tranquil trellis]

Why is my atlas still a red orb after beating the game but my friend atlas is bunch of floating aliens?

[vague oriole]

The design in the atlas stations is random

[eternal radish]

I love the floating aliens one. It's creepy yet fascinating.

[eternal radish]

This reminds me of a Traveller interaction I had. The Traveller was wounded on their leg but upon trying to give medical assistance you discover that the Traveller inside the suit was dead and it was the suit that was doing all the moving and interactions. Creepy...

[tame perch]

Yep, this is why I even brought this up
Similar interaction for me

[uncut harness]

Should I have let Artemis live?

[icy citrus]

I didn't

[uncut harness]

Yea I killed her

But

Wouldn’t letting her live

Be better?

[icy citrus]

It's an echo of Artemis, they have been dead a long time

[uncut harness]

wait

what?

[icy citrus]

Yep

That's why you can't ever meet up

And why you make the mind arc

[uncut harness]

well like

they are still

like

"alive"

like if i chose to let them live

they would be alive in a simulation

and she would be conscious

[icy citrus]

For a given value of alive, sure

To be clear, there isn't a wrong or right answer - it is what's wrong or right to you

[slate flame]

I have both saves with either decision, there's no right or wrong, although if you kept her in the simulation you will have an option later on to tell her the truth or not

[eternal radish]

I am glad people in this fandom say there is no right and wrong decision and that's it's up to you. In many fandoms people will fight over this stuff.

[eternal radish]

In Artemis' experience they were still physical.

[raw hatch]

I have artemis in the simulation and told her the truth, on the basis that she is experiencing basically what the player experiences, and with the technology available I kind of feel like there should be a way to save her eventually. like there are "soul arks" and "mind chambers" so it makes sense to me that artemis might be able to be salvaged and brought into the "real" world eventually

[eternal radish]

That's why I put them in the simulation too. There might be hope in the future.

[stoic mural]

Is there enough of her left to be saved, though?

[thorny rover]

There us her echo, like a part of her, but it should work

[unique linden]

Is 40 hours of gameplay too soon to finish the main story? I just started playing (15 hours a day lol) and am worried I will ruin the game by finishing too soon. I feel like I've just started and plan to play this game for hundreds+ of hours. Is there anything I should do first before I finish the main story? I haven't really accomplished much apart from working on upgrades and my base, and exploring numerous galaxies.

[heady wyvern]

The questline is largely a glorified tutorial; after that, the game opens up and expects you to find your own path.

[unique linden]

Thank you so much! Phew!

[heady wyvern]

Living ship. Too much RNG involved with X-class mods.

Also, that's not exactly what we'd call a spoiler.

[muted moth]

once you finish the tutorial, the real gameplay begins 🙂

well that was way delayed as a response, heh.

[dawn mirage]

I think I just finished the game on permadeath mode and my main quest is New Beginnings. I made the choice to not reset things, what would happen if I did? Also Isn't there differences in the story of each mode, what are they?

Or no people call it the tutorial, yes?

[icy citrus]

You would have had a choice of galaxy types to go to. No differences in the story between modes.

[dawn mirage]

thanks

[dawn mirage]

Now how do I get to these galaxies?

[icy citrus]

You can use bases at the anomaly, there are typically ones from other galaxies there. You can go to the center of your current and advance one. You could also call a cabbie and go to a specific one, or join someone in one.

[dawn mirage]

Okay thanks a ton!

[icy citrus]

No problem

[soft trellis]

What is the point of the galactic core in my galaxy map

[sharp zinc]

I went said yes to personality diagnostic and and didn't wipe the atlas, did I mess up?

[dawn mirage]

If you look up a few messages you can see

you just get to choose a different galaxy to go to

[sharp zinc]

ok then

[sharp zinc]

nada is asking if I feel not-crimson, what do I say

[night helm]

Do you feel Crimson?

[sharp zinc]

uh, no. but i did interact with the atlas and didn't wipe it

[night helm]

Same

[dawn mirage]

You cant be wrong?

[midnight atlas]

So, on my second play through, on Ghosts in the Machine mission. I went to the facility and destroyed the door and had to attack sentinels on air, once I went inside and went to the terminal and put down the animal it still says I have to destroy the door. And now I can’t progress anything

am I screwed?

I can reload my manual save, but the thing is it’s from yesterday night. And I’ve progressed a lot and got a new ship. I might have to sacrifice a lot

[dawn mirage]

You could load the save or maybe break another door and see what that does?

[dawn mirage]

I'n not sure sure though, just a thought

[midnight atlas]

I can’t, the save will just take me back to where I existed my starship—right after breaking the door

so I’m stuck

[daring bronze]

@midnight atlasgo to the anomaly and travel to a featured base and reset the mission

[midnight atlas]

I’ll try it, thanks

[rancid ether]

oh my...

[mental socket]

very interesting

[mint tiger]

Uhmmm, I have a choice between reset simulation and refuse, so does that mean if I choose the first one my save file will be gone / I start from scratch?

[thorny rover]

no, you will just start in a new galaxy, depending on which you choose, with most of your tech broken

[mint tiger]

Hmm, tps will still work?

I just need a way back, new galaxy is nice though

Anyways, I'm going in...

[thorny rover]

16

[grim peak]

I must say, I was not expecting this response when I said "hello"! 🤣

[swift marten]

Waking titan is no longer canon right

It doesnt seem to fit

Ingame lore says atlas is being consumed by a black hole, waking titan takes place on earth near modern times

In waking titan 16 is important because 16th iteration of the ai, in game 16 is the number of seconds left

[rancid ether]

Im honestly not sure if WT was ever considered canon. Same could be said for the old weekend events (although Sentinel update does hint at some of it being canon).
Also, in game, 16 is a mix of things.
Artemis is constantly hiding from "the 16". There are 16 portal glyphs. There are 16^16 planets in the game.

[jovial violet]

yeah, unless you specifically regard some in-game sources as being unreliable (seeing the black hole issue as a metaphor, or viewing the Atlas' record of historical out-of-simulation events as somehow false), it's near enough impossible to reconcile Waking Titan with NMS. which is funny, because the story introduced in Atlas Rises at the end of the original WT run should've put any theories of canonicity to bed

genuinely think it's nicer to view WT as Alice & Smith taking elements HG told them about, and images they wanted to be included in the ARG, and them making a neat little story about simulation theory, AI's, and loops from it all. it was a cool mini-story and i greatly enjoyed the ride, and i think it tarnishes it somewhat if we all try to find deeper connections between it and No Man's Sky's actual story/lore

[candid lark]

@brittle vine @grim peak after the 16th jump, the game sends you to see The Atlas itself. It gives you a chance to reset the simulation, If you choose to, it will allow you to choose a new galaxy to go to

[thorny rover]

Or refuse

But you can still go to another galaxies

[grim peak]

What does resetting the simulation do?

Does it well and truly reset your game?

[thorny rover]

No

[candid lark]

nope, has NO effect on your progress

[grim peak]

hokay

[thorny rover]

It sends you to a galaxy type of your choice with all your tech in general broken

[candid lark]

The Atlas is effectively a computer, and we are in its matrix like simulation

[thorny rover]

This includes exosuit, ship, freighter, multitool

[grim peak]

yikes

[candid lark]

Ah yeah - if you have a spare MT, Ship then switch to them quickly befroe jumping to the new galaxy

The jump breaks any tech not in the Technology tabs

its can all be repaired

it will also dump you on a random planet 500u from your ship same as at the start of the game

[grim peak]

wait, so resetting also sends you to a new galaxy?

[candid lark]

yes, you can choose one of 4 colors

[thorny rover]

Yes

[thorny rover]

Each colour means a type

[grim peak]

what if I don't want to go to a new galaxy? I'd prefer to not have all my stuff broken.

[candid lark]

green - Lush, blue - Normal, Grey - empty, red - Harsh

Then choose NOT to reset the simulation

if you don't things stay as they are and you get to walk away from the portal wherever it happens to be in Euclid

[grim peak]

I actually don't have much stuff in most general tabs except for my starship...

[candid lark]

Like, I'm in Eissentam right now, which is a "Lush" galaxy, and they have more paradise worlds than normal in them

[grim peak]

I suppose I could switch to a different ship

[thorny rover]

Then refuse

[candid lark]

Eissentam is galaxy no. 10

There are 255 galaxies

[grim peak]

What type is Euclid, and what are the differences between the types?

[candid lark]

theres technically a 256'th galaxy that can only be found by those that already know where it is

Euclid is a normal

Eissentam, where I am is the first Lush type, is galaxy 10, and has more paradise worlds than normal

Empty galaxies contain more empty worlds and anomalous worlds

and harsh galaxies have more extreme worlds

[grim peak]

Might as well profit from my adventure and grab all the exosuit slots I can 😄

I'm also checking the multitools since I need a new one

Will especially need a new one after the galaxy warp

I've found a couple of A pistols in space stations, but I have yet to find a decent rifle.

If I don't find what I want by the time it's over, I'll just get one from nmsce.

[candid lark]

As you can see, I play in creative, so jumping galaxies doesnt carry any life threatening risk. It still damages everything, but you just have to click it to repair it as you have infinite resources

[eternal radish]

What if it an alien spaceship crashed on Earth and the human military retrieved the Atlas computer from it and scientists started messing around with this super computer and that explains Waking Titan? Maybe humans also retrieved aliens survivors from the ship and eventually some of them managed to escape and take the Atlas with them and left Earth. Then sometime later the Atlas was abandoned on a planet which is about to be sucked by a black hole.

[safe kiln]

in-game lore states the atlas was abandoned after its creators learned how to replicate it

doesn't really follow

[eternal radish]

Better computers were made

[safe kiln]

that's what i said, yes

the atlas knows it was abandoned by those that replicated it and improved upon it

[eternal radish]

I think a computer such as the Atlas, with infinite processing power, is way too advanced for humans to build. Imagine the energy it requires. How was it even still operational after being abandoned for so long? What was the power source?

Unless the Atlas somehow generates it's own power.

[safe kiln]

perhaps the atlas is powered by the penrose process

[eternal radish]

If the Atlas was build by a human it must have been Nikola Tesla who reincarnated lol

[safe kiln]

i'm not really saying the atlas was made by humans

[eternal radish]

I don't think so either

Unless it was Nikola Tesla 😅

[safe kiln]

but in-game lore seems to state that whoever created it (or at least whoever the Atlas regarded as it's creator) was also the one to improve upon it and thereby abandon it

[eternal radish]

At the end someone would return for the Atlas.

The Atlas will no longer be alone

[safe kiln]

that doesn't change the fact that it was abandoned

[eternal radish]

But it won't be forever

[safe kiln]

that's not really relevant to the point i'm making, though

it's true, as far as we know, but not relevant

at the end of the day, the atlas is, as far as we know, physically impossible as a construct

being able to simulate it's own reality at a much faster rate than it's own reality actually progresses at implies that the atlas posesses more processing power than there are particles in the universe

[eternal radish]

True. And it being able to see the future

[safe kiln]

not just atoms, nor subatomic particles, nor quarks, but also leptons and bosons as well

yes

to be able to simulate our universe perfectly at a 1:1 speed would require a computer at least the size of the universe itself, basically

anything smaller than that being able to simulate the universe must have infinite processing power by way of recursion

[eternal radish]

It can't be made by humans. Whoever made it was technologically thousands of years ahead of us.

At least

[safe kiln]

not near-infinite, just plain infinite

i dunno where they got the atlas from in WT, then

[eternal radish]

Maybe a crashed alien spaceship

I wasn't around when WT was a thing but as far as I'm concerned it was set in the present (well, 2017-18 but close enough lol) at a time humans didn't have the technological capacity to build a computer as powerful as the Atlas.

So to me the only way WT can be canon is if humans were tinkering around with alien technology.

[safe kiln]

looking through WT stuff right now

Because of our recent discoveries in the fields of magnetic and geophysical anomalies, Multiverse Technologies is now hiring. If you or someone you know have research experience in the fields of radiation belts, computationalism, magnetic fields, or simply quantum electrodynamics, we will consider your application. If you have what it takes to break the laws of physics, contact us now at multiverse-75.com.
seems to imply that the atlas was at least built by humans, even if the underlying technology isn't human per se

[eternal radish]

Reverse engineered alien technology

[safe kiln]

still, WT may not be reconcilable with NMS lore

[eternal radish]

Either that or they sought people with expertise in those fields who could crack the technology behind the Atlas.

[eternal radish]

I personally think it's parallel from today's NMS lore. If that makes sense. That they are not canon together but just are two separate storylines.

I apologise if I sound like a complete dumbass. English is not my first language, I suck at translating my thoughts into words and I had two burn-outs so I am not as bright as I used to be 😅

I also struggle to differentiate main subjects from lesser relevant details because to me all details are relevant.

[grim peak]

So just to clarify @candid lark, 1 and 2 both take me to another galaxy but each have different dialogue?

probably going to go with 1 either way

oh

Now it's time to vibe to the music as the universe dies.

I ended up going to Eissentam.

Likely won't stay there, though.

[thorny rover]

Why? There are more lush planets there

[grim peak]

I've got too much stuff in Euclid atm. I might come back at some point, but idk for sure.

[night helm]

Lol my Leviathan frigate was the lead on an outing and when I logged back in after it returned the holo to debrief clearly showed the Normandy from Mass Effect (which I know was a cross promotion thing they did)

[heady wyvern]

Likely a display bug

wait does Gunter have access to this chat? Probably not.

My bad

[night reef]

i put him in the simulation as soon as i could if that’s what y’all are talking about it’s been awhile so i don’t remember

[wraith comet]

yeah, I just didn't know a better way to break it to them gently and get them to finish the quest

[swift marten]

What are weekend events??

[cedar silo]

Nexus missions that occur strictly on weekends, the quick silver rewards are ridiculously higher rates than normal in these missions.

[thorny rover]

No, that's something else

Weekend events were before these nexus missions I think

[cedar silo]

I suppose I couldnt say.

But itd be nice if someone did know and could tell us both.

[cedar silo]

Seems we both dont have a clue. Lol

[thorny rover]

I know what they are, just don't know how to explain them

[cedar silo]

Well this is awkward than, to be told no that's not it, and then like not have a way to understand. 😅🤔

[thorny rover]

Yeah, I know, not the best situation

[cedar silo]

Lol allg

[simple oyster]

I need help with the purge mission it’s asking me to seek the final interface or complete the atlas path

Does completing the atlas path mean I have to go do the whole mission? Or can I just skip that and seek the final interface?

Would it affect anything if I don’t complete the atlas quest line?