nms-spoilers

[quasi acorn]

hey guys

nvm

yeah "too much for the computer to handle" is a shaky point

[solar cairn]

If we didn't, why is it failing?

[quasi acorn]

OH

I HAVE A THOERY

what if the atlas is outdated?

[solar cairn]

And I was going on the implications of infinite universes, as you said Infinite possibilities. And multiverse over and over. Yet I'm in the wrong?

[quasi acorn]

the race that made it has evolved further with tecbology and now its just sitting in an attic?

[solar cairn]

It is obsolete tech in the NMS lore

[quasi acorn]

yes

[solar cairn]

It's why it was abandoned

[quasi acorn]

that would explain why its not been fixed

that odsen't mean its weak by any means though

it just means that BETTER has been made

make no mistake

[solar cairn]

Or it could've been just a simulation prompt given by it's creator.

[shut swan]

It is never said explicitely why it is failing, could be a black hole (don't adhere to that theory either), could be the component simply rusting or frying after a long time without maintenance, could be a software issue. Like, i'm not saying your theory that it's a memory issue is wrong, but that still doesn't mean it's right either, nor does it say how many universes are currently simulated or how many it CAN simulate

[quasi acorn]

yes

[shut swan]

Infinite possibilities doesn't mean they're all being simulated currently

[quasi acorn]

to be honest we really don't have much info regarding the atlas

[solar cairn]

We know it simulated millions, we know it deleted millions. Deletion means some level of optimization and storage management

[quasi acorn]

we only know that it is outdated, it is dieing, and it will die in 16 minutes

[shut swan]

I think it sais it is somewhere in the rememberance terminals and that's why it was abandonned

[solar cairn]

You used infinite way too many times. Just be consistent with wording

[quasi acorn]

how long is that 16? we don't know. what caused it to fail? we don't know

[solar cairn]

I even used the resource website, there has been VERY few times of the word "multiverse" being used.

[quasi acorn]

edited to make it clearer

[solar cairn]

Although, I did find something interesting

[shut swan]

Yes, true, but that still doesn't give me a max number, nor does it say that's the reason it's failing. For all we know Simulations where the traveller is dead that we talked about earlier could be removed after a time. I mean, when you die twice the first grave disappears, that could be the Atlas clearing things up, which still seems reasonable as far as Sci-Fi resource management goes

[solar cairn]

Yeah, but it doesn't recreate an entire simulation for your death

[shut swan]

Again, infinite possibilities doesn't mean they're all being run at the same time in the first place

[solar cairn]

And that confusion could've been avoided

[shut swan]

Why wouldn't it ?

[solar cairn]

The derelict freighter incident

I still have no reason to believe I should exclude it

[quasi acorn]

because it makes no sense

[solar cairn]

There hasn't been another exception in lore, why start now?

[quasi acorn]

when you respawn, you still have your freighter

your pets

your bases

why wouldn't those be gone if you just..hopped simulations?

[solar cairn]

Can even go back to galaxy 1 the first simulation you spawn in. And your bases would be there

[quasi acorn]

literally just station teleport

all galaxies are in the SAME simulation

this isn't debatable

[solar cairn]

I dunno about this one.

That's debatable.

[shut swan]

Because it's one universe mentioned in one Log, There are travelers out there talking about multiSwords and cities and medieval times, yet we don't have multi-swords or cities or medieval times, right ? Should we bring those into the debate ? Why is it so weird that this one traveller had some sort of anomaly that made it respawn, yet all the others we meet in the story don't ?

[solar cairn]

To reset the simulation, you choose the next galaxy

[solar cairn]

Who talks about multiswords???

[quasi acorn]

multiswords?

[shut swan]

Because like the H2G2 book/Movie, that new iteration lived the same exact life

[solar cairn]

Why use that book for NMS?

[shut swan]

some travelers at space stations do

[shut swan]

it's just a comparison to another Sci-Fi work

[solar cairn]

You sure about that?

[shut swan]

Yeah, I think i have a screenshot, I could try to find it but i can't post screenshots anyway

[solar cairn]

If you have evidence of it, please share

[solar cairn]

Why not? Not a familiar?

[solar cairn]

Comparing, doesn't mean the same

[shut swan]

Nope 🥲 I initially came to the discord to post art so i was given rights to post there but i'm not a familiar yet

[solar cairn]

You've been talking alot, check anyway?

[shut swan]

It sure doesn't, But NMS takes inspirations from many sci-fi works, and while I'm not saying it's happening in NMS specifically, it's a concept that does exist in Sci-Fi out there

[solar cairn]

Because we do the same thing as that traveller in the derelict freighter.

[solar cairn]

But why apply it so aggressively?

In fact, I think in a roundabout way. We agree on the death cycle of travellers. We just used different words. Each creation, is a new simulation, they don't die until the simulation ends

Except... Null was deleted and escaped the world of glass.

Also, that thing I discovered using "multiverse" said that the Atlas began to repeat itself at the creation of Korvax Prime.

[glass flare]

The black hole isn't a "theory", it's stated clearly in the lore. If you choose to believe the lore is based on unreliable narration that's fine, but then basically you must consider ALL lore to be unreliable.

[shut swan]

I'm not that attached to that specific aspect, as it only applies to why we respawn. It's simply that i'm trying to make a coherent headcanon of what happens in the NMS universe. If we are the last traveller, and multiplayer is explained as a part of the lore, it means not every one of us can be the last, yet we are. Sure multiplayer is a Gameplay element, but from the moment they decided to make this gameplay a part of the lore, I have to find a way for it all to fit. So i came up with this, multiple sub-multiverses for each of or games, with each a Null, an Artemis, an Apollo, and in each of those, we are the Last Traveler. And all of our sub-multiverses form the entire NMS multiverse. How do we respawn ? I don't know, maybe we have the same anomaly as the guy in the freighter, or it's the H2G2 thing. Like i said, it's not the part i'm really adamant about

[shut swan]

Where ? i've only seen people talk about the black hole thing in fan discussion, but from the rememberance terminals, to the boundary failures, to the sentinel pillars to the monoliths and Colossal archives, i couldn't find a single mention of the Atlas failing because of a black hole

If you have any source, please share it with me because it's been bugging me for a while

[shut swan]

BTW a found a reddit link https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/j14kdj/ok_i_want_a_multisword/

[solar cairn]

Sub-multiverse?

So just a universe?

[shut swan]

Like i said somewhere earlier, it's just how I call the universes that your character in your game specifically interact with, so it's a sub-part of the global NMS multiverse

[solar cairn]

Neat!

[glass flare]

It's in the Rememberance data ```Five minutes left

It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed.```

source: https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Data

[solar cairn]

At this point, you're just making up terms. Why not be consistent

[shut swan]

How the hell did I miss that 🤔 Or maybe i forgot lol. Still, if the Atlas is failing due to that then it's not a memory/resource issue

[shut swan]

I'm not making up terms, i'm using them to explain my idea, and i tried to explain each of them as I go

[solar cairn]

That's if it's a black hole. If black holes were restoring it, why are they Benin in the simulation?

That's the only part that make me think someone lied somewhere

[shut swan]

like, it's just two words, sub-multiverse, like the a sub section of a larger multiverse, it's like "multiverse" it's just common words, i'm not making anything up lol

[glass flare]

That's five minutes left. we're at 16 minutes left. so theoretically the black hole may not have physically been tearing up the servers yet, but indirectly affecting its operation. that's my theory anyway

[solar cairn]

We are at 10 minutes

Since we can interact with other travellers in the Anomaly

[solar cairn]

Sub multiverse... That's just a uniiverse. Or do you mean omniverse, a collection of multiverses?

[glass flare]

Well, it doesn't explicitly say that 10 minutes was the start of Traveller convergence. It's a bit unclear

[shut swan]

Yeah the lore isn't really consistent between how mush is left, if we believe the rememberance it's 10 but the Atlas is still saying 16 lol

[solar cairn]

It's the mark of the boundary failure

I think 16 was the Destruction of KP

[solar cairn]

Remember, Atlas is trying to prevent/know beyond death. And it simulated that in some kind of purgatory hell. What it says and what is, isn't always the same thing

This has happened before, with the Race history plaques and pattern in time being two different histories

[shut swan]

Ok, let's both define words so we're all talking about the same thing. Let's say one universe is one timeline, where there is only one Traveller at a time. Do they respawn or is a new one born when one is dead is not in question here, we'll just say there is only one per universe and that's the definition of one "universe". Universes may cross, shift, or their timeline may move at different speeds, but still, they're separate universes. Then a multiverse is just a collection of those. and a sub-multiverse is just a sub-collection of a larger multiverse. It is still a multiverse, and you could cut it in more sub-multiverses if you want. Does that make sense ?

[solar cairn]

Or...

Swap out every universe for Simulation. And Multiverse for universe

Because Simulation is more used in NMS. Not universe for different instances.

[sharp musk]

anyone know the glyphs for this portal in euclid

[solar cairn]

I believe there is a Starbirth command here

[icy citrus]

Like I said, the answer is pinned here

[shut swan]

In each of or game, we cross with different worlds, different travellers, so it is a multiverse, which is a sub-multiverse of what i call "THE Multiverse". And then, "THE Multiverse" is the collection of all the multiverses in all of our games combined

[shut swan]

To me a simulation simulates one universe, so they're interchangeable, if that clears any things up from what i was saying earlier

[sharp musk]

no it not

[icy citrus]

#nms-spoilers message

Yes, it is.

[solar cairn]

It does, but unless you say they are interchangeable, it will lead to so much confusion

And personally, I use simulation because that is what Atlas does. It creates simulations. It's used more times throughout the game

[shut swan]

One "universe" being made of multiple "simulations" seems more confusing to me, but i guess that's just semantics lol

[sharp musk]

oh it is

[solar cairn]

So, you have a multiverse, that contains... Sub multiverses. Do you not see how that is confusing?

[shut swan]

it does say "multiverse" at times, like in the boundary failures : That night, the ATLAS showed it the multiverse.

[solar cairn]

So what is it. The Multiverse, or the multiverse

[solar cairn]

I've seen it be said at exactly 1 sentinel node. That's it

[shut swan]

One sentinel node + boundary failures makes two :p

[solar cairn]

I've seen simulation everywhere else

And simulation was used hundreds of times

[shut swan]

I don't know it seems clear to me, like you have a collection of things, then sub-collections of that thing, and you can even have sub-collections of your sub-collections etc... Maybe I'm biased by my job as a dev where I deal with all sorts of those all the time but it seemed clear to me lol

[solar cairn]

It doesn't make sense at all.

Hell, there is even a reason animal classification is broken down into different groups with different names.

[shut swan]

Still, the fact that both appear still have meaning, even if it's once, and there's a connection to be made between the two, one way or another. It's like saying the name "void mother" is less relevant because it appeared less in the game than "Abyss"

[solar cairn]

Oh, but I can't use it as an exception because it only happens once?

Or, to be more pedantic. 2 times. Just like multiverse was used 2 times

No. One of these is an exception

Be consistent

[shut swan]

Lol, i remember when I was in engineering school, both math and computer science teachers used to joke about how biologists and physicists suck because they have so many names for things, even though it doesn't make sense and could be simplier, because they just want to give their own names to things

i guess it depends on the fields

[shut swan]

You're mixing things up. What you were saying was because you had one traveller outside of the player that could respawn, all travellers could do that, despite evidence that many just die like normal living beings. And here you're saying that because "Simulation" is used more, "Multiverse" means nothing. It's more of the same, you're taking one side of the evidence and saying it applies everywhere despite evidence of something else existing

[solar cairn]

There isn't evidence of death. Artemis' death was unnatural.

Each Traveller you see shouldn't exist, because they are White Holes.

Any traveller in the Space stations should exit. An every player you kill comes back to life.

There is not a Death, end of.

Do you have evidence that a Traveller dies like any other creature and they stay dead?

[shut swan]

Then how do you explain the graves ? They're litteral graves for dead people. Or the mind Arcs that we use both for Artemis of during the living ship quest to collect dead souls ? Or the 2020 weekend missions where they named multiple dead travellers from the past like Asteria ?

[solar cairn]

Derelict freighter evidence - No that's an exception

Multiverse was used 2 times - not an exception

[solar cairn]

They shouldn't exist

They are also white holes

The mind arc literally stores their data. The computational data. Once that gets released, it's over. It is not a natural death. You don't put any old Vykeen in the mind arc do you?

Do you go to a grave and use a Gek to fuel your living ship?

[shut swan]

You rely on the white hole thing even though Telamon only mentions it Once as a possible explanation for why travellers could appear, even though they thought it was impossible, but we clearly know that was false and Telamon was wrong, it was not a deception

[solar cairn]

We used things from the world of glass, to fuel something from the world of glass

[solar cairn]

No, it's not a possible explanation. Its impossible

If white holes can happen, the. Atlas can also prevent it's death.

[shut swan]

Then again, multiplayer lol, the whole concept of boundary failure in the game is evidence that it IS possible and Telamon was wrong at the time

[solar cairn]

All living ships, living frigates. Are from the world of glass. Atlas cannot see them

[solar cairn]

Different simulation, different traveller. We are all the last traveller.

We do not die until the end of the simulation. And when that simulation ends, it's heavily implied Atlas will too

We may even live beyond with how Void Mother is responding. Going beyond 16. Since Null Escaped the world of glass

World of Glass is death, we are beyond death.

[shut swan]

But then, if we can cross with any of them, Telamon was still wrong right ? They said and i quote "such multiversal transportation, even temporary, is impossible.". Then if Telamon was wrong about that, why can't they be wrong about travelers being white hole things ?

[solar cairn]

Telamon wasn't wrong

[shut swan]

😅

how ? lol

[solar cairn]

Simply put

You said it yourself. There are millions of universes.
So, what if as soon as Atlas dies, which one is the last? Or all of them the last?

The last set

Last multiverse

We are the last simulation(s) that will have travellers, it ends when we do.

It's asynchronous. Meaning I could progress further than you, meet in multiplayer. But we are the last set. The last 255 galaxies. That will ever be simulated

[shut swan]

But like, Telamon said crossing between universes was impossible, yet we do it all the time, so how could they not be wrong ? it is simply that initially they thought it was impossible, then they were proved it wasn't, simple as that

[solar cairn]

We are all the last

[solar cairn]

Crossing simulations is not impossible. Time travel is

Telamon said that white holes are like a time travel. Which is impossible

A traveller in your simulation, which you can talk to. But long has died did not cross a simulation. That is time travel

[shut swan]

But i do not think time travel is a thing, i'm simply saying traveller graves are just dead travellers from other universes, how does time travel being impossible makes that impossible ?

[solar cairn]

That's why all those space station travellers have that white aura. But. Other players unless in the Anomaly, do not

[solar cairn]

They are dead yes? Then their simulation has ended. How are they talking with you, if their simulation is ended?

[shut swan]

You're using this as an argument that they're not dead, that they're not "graves", but i don't see how that contradicts

[solar cairn]

They shouldn't exist.

The implications that they have existed in your simulation is impossible

That's why Telamon is suspicious something is trying to influence you. the world of glass

There should not be a traveller grave in your simulation. There should not be a traveller in the space station.

But there is. If they came from another simulation, they wouldn't have the white aura would they?

[shut swan]

But that's not what i'm saying either x) They are graves from travellers of other simulations, but they are Dead, not respawning. Plus some of them died stupid deaths, like being killed by hazardous plants, not some end of their universe

Like all this argument we're having is about if all travellers respawn or not

[solar cairn]

They do.

You still exist with a grave if you die no?

It has all your stuff. A Grave doesn't signify a death.

[glass flare]

Artemis didn't respawn

[solar cairn]

Artemis was also killed with the mind arc

[shut swan]

So far we have one traveller that clearly died (Artemis) and tons of graves of Travellers who also clearly died and didn't respawn, against one log talking about one traveller that did, and our characters

[solar cairn]

Or put in a simulation.

Which we now know is a relic of Korvax Prime

[shut swan]

artemis was already dead at that point

[solar cairn]

Then how has some players saved them?

[shut swan]

Soul

[solar cairn]

So, they were alive?

[shut swan]

like, that's the whole point of the mind ark lol

No

x)

they're dead

you're talking to a virtual ghost, basically, like all travellers on graves

[solar cairn]

How do we define death?

Did we ever travel to Artemis' grave?

[shut swan]

Yes

during the main quest we do

[solar cairn]

We also never met Artemis without a Deep space telecommunications tower

[solar cairn]

You're right, I remember.

How do we define death?

Absence of a body?
Soul leaving a body?
If the Soul is still there, but the body isn't. Is it death?

[shut swan]

Like Litterally, i time-stamped the video, says right here "my friend is dead, Perhaps they were never alive" https://youtu.be/sSGIq6PpGzw?t=140

[solar cairn]

Yeah I remember

Define Death, if they were never alive. How did you meet them?

Is a Soul not alive?

If anything, this is just reinforcing that travellers don't die.

[shut swan]

We're getting into metaphysics here lol, technically no one in the simulation has a body so they would all be dead from the start including our character. So let's say Dying means that within the simulation, you lost your body, and the soul can't act on the real world like it used to

like i said, they'rs kinda just space virtual ghosts

[solar cairn]

Each simulation is tied to a traveller. End of a simulation, end of a traveller.

[glass flare]

dying inside the simulation basically means data loss of your 'entity' however you want to describe that. but things don't seem to be immediately erased, but instead sent to the World of Glass which seems to be some sort of archival space, or maybe a kind of memory garbage collection heap

[solar cairn]

Because, if we used the graves in game. That means somehow a new traveller was created in the same simulation. With the Death of another (grave, no body) what starts the process of traveler death. If we can respawn?

The simulation never resets

[solar cairn]

Yeah, but White holes happening. Like the white aura you see with travellers in the space station. But if we use multiplayer as evidence of boundary failure. Those people in your party doesn't have a white hole effect that we saw in space stations

Which loops back that Telamon is suspicious that something is influencing us in our game

The world of glass was bleeding into our simulation since the start

[shut swan]

I mean, you're kinda confirming what i was saying. They don't respawn, their simulation ends, and that includes us. As players we see "our" grave as a respawn mechanic, but in game, it's just the grave of a different traveller that died in a different simulation/universe

[solar cairn]

I have said this at the beginning

Though, if they are all our graves. Communicating with the ghost is probably why Telamon is like... The hell is going on here

The graves don't shimmer like the travellers do, I don't think

[glass flare]

I don't think it's purely a multiverse thing. We've been seeing traveller graves since I believe NMS 1.0, before the boundaries were falling

There is a linear aspect to it. one sim ends, another begins. I believe I read somewhere in recent lore that we're identified as the "last iteration"

[solar cairn]

Their argument is that we can't be the last since Multiplayer and the anomaly is a thing, so that's why they are going on about the multiverse

We are the last iteration. Though separate simulations, they will just all end at the same time

[glass flare]

well Atlas is running simulations in parallel, which would probably be asynchronous. so we're seeing travellers in different time periods in their own simulations

[solar cairn]

Agreed

Though, seeing those Travellers in the Space stations shimmer. That what Telamon calls white holes, like time travel. However, time travel is impossible. So they are a product of something else.

[glass flare]

well loosely I guess you could say it's time travel, in the same way looking at a star and knowing the light you're seeing is millions of years old

[solar cairn]

In a way. But it's not really a light-years thing, I don't think.

[shut swan]

I guess the whole argument stems from the misunderstanding about what i mean't by "multiverse"/"Universe"/"Simulation". Like, the whole grave thing implies that we are in a multiverse in our own game, but we each aren't the last in the entire multiverse, because that doesn't make sense with multiplayer (can't all be last of the whole thing), so we are last of "our" universe

[solar cairn]

Yes... It did

[shut swan]

that's what i've been trying to say from the start

[solar cairn]

And why I said that it was miscommunication.

[glass flare]

Right, but conceptually I mean you're seeing travellers who might be 1000 years in the future in in-game time. so to you it looks like they've travelled back in time or something

[solar cairn]

And try to be consistent.

[solar cairn]

Or they are shimmering from the world of glass

Like... Data remnants

[glass flare]

possibly. I think there are at least a few Traveller interactions I remember that seem to indicate that they might be in the abyss

[solar cairn]

Time only goes forward. Never back. The ones that say they are from a future life are suspicious

The other say they came from a past life

[shut swan]

I did mention that too, i think both concepts coexist

[solar cairn]

In NMS, time is linear. Can only go forward, never backwards... Just that it starts at different points

[shut swan]

I feel like i've been consistent, we just didn't define things the same way from the start x)

[solar cairn]

Fair

Though it's already confusing enough when people mean different galaxy as different universe. NMS terminology needs some serious help

Multiverse and sub-multiverse for separate things, did not help me at all.

[shut swan]

I've seen people call solar systems Galaxies, so i've seen worse lol

[solar cairn]

I shall correct them too!

[solar cairn]

I've seen this as well.

Like NMS Universe includes the Creator, the Black hole. Waking Titan. All stuff inside and outside the simulation

[glass flare]

yeah it happens quite often. science education isn't what it used to be I guess

[solar cairn]

S

Simulations

[shut swan]

They're the same things, Imagine there's 10 apples on the table, that's a "collection" of apples (the entire NMS multiverse), then 5 of those apples are mine, 5 are yours, so we both have a "sub-collection" of those apples (sub-multiverse in each of our games), and that is also a "collection" of apples, just smaller

[solar cairn]

Just say Multiverse, and individual instances.

Or universe and simulations

[shut swan]

(Sorry i'm explaining it again but i find it really not too weird of a concept lol but again maybe i'm biased)

[solar cairn]

I like different names for different things

[shut swan]

aren't 5 apple still a collection of apples ? it's like you're saying because i divided the initial 10 apples, the 5 i have now are now "one instance of an apple", which seems weirder to me

it's just a sub-collection of the initial 10

[solar cairn]

Well here:
There is a Pool of 10 apples
You and I take 5
We now have a collection of apples

I will pull out a thesaurus for clarity

[shut swan]

Yeah but then you have to give names to every layer, like what if i had 20 ? is that still a pool ? What if i want to divide even more the 5 into 2 and 3 ? what do i call those ?

[solar cairn]

Well, get creative with naming

Like biologists!

[solar cairn]

Bet

1 simulation

Many simulations

1 iteration (tied to traveller)

1 universe

1 universe can have many iterations, 1 iteration can have many simulations

But there is only 1 simulation.

You have a pool of 10 apples

That goes into bundles of 5 apples

That goes into a collection of 3 apples

To go into 1 apple.

[shut swan]

Yeah but i guess that's where the IT bias comes. Like, you don't know how many items you're gonna have or how many layers of sub-divisions. It's like forlders on a computer, or tables in a database. Sure you can give a name to a specific folder or table, but you still gotta have a name for the "concept" and the sub-divisions of it

so you get collections and sub-collections. Folders and sub-folders. Tables and sub-Tables. and then Multiverse and Sub-Multiverse

then you can call each one however you want, like multiverse-A multiverse-B and multiverse-C, with B and C being sub-multiverses to A etc...

easy peasy 👌

[solar cairn]

Just- "give em letters, that way we have 26... And if we run out... Double the letters"

[shut swan]

Now you're thinking like a dev lol

[solar cairn]

Maybe your instructors were onto something...

This is going into offtopic speak tho

[shut swan]

Oh oh, even better, you call one collection "collection-A" and then the sub-collections get the perent plus a new letter, so you get collection-A, and Collection-AA and collection-AB, and you instantly know they're sub-collections of A. And then it's free naming conventions, you get AAB, ABA, BAA, AAAA, AAAAAAA

[shut swan]

true lol, i'll stop rambling x)

[solar cairn]

This was productive tho, we learned we said the near exact same thing... Differently

[shut swan]

yeah lol

[solar cairn]

Love to see it. At least this way. The NMS community as a whole is getting a better idea of what actually is the lore. Like leaning into what is the HG vision

[shut swan]

Yeah, Lately i've been digging the lore a lot more than usual while trying to make my tarot card deck. I'm trying as much as i can to not put in anything i'm not 100% sure about to avoid some of the cards being invalidated by future updates lol

[solar cairn]

Hopefully, it would just be the creation of new cards.

This part of the lore is messy at best, since what is written in game might not necessarily be what is true to lore.

Like... ancient plaque history, not aligning with actual events

[shut swan]

Well, they're tarot cards anyway, like the lore they are still up to interpretations so as long as i don't go too deep into the details it should be fine

[wise dome]

So I'm doing the 16/16 quest and just met Atlas, and Its dying and nothing is real

How do you even live at that point

[solar cairn]

You keep going

You give yourself purpose

[vocal lark]

||then its not really a endless ending, in fact you still get closure in the fact that you know its endless||

[strange yacht]

I was wondering if there are any other differences when resetting, aside from jumping to a new universe. If I refuse, do I still receive Remembrance? I just want to make sure I don't miss out on anything if I choose to stay in Euclid on my main save file.

I'm also curious about the naming of planets and such. I'm a bit unsure about whether I want to upload unchanged names, only to later regretting that I didn’t rename them to something specific. As I understand it, the original names always remain, but can other travelers actually see the changed names, or is that only visible to me?

[merry estuary]

You can rename planets and systems you discovered once, and then upload them, and everyone will see the changed name upon discovering it

Oh and also, even if you choose to reset the simulation, you can always return to Euclid, so dont worry about that

[strange yacht]

Thanks, I have discovered some planets but haven't uploaded them yet, as I'm unsure about naming them. I'm concerned that I might later regret not choosing a different name, especially if I decide to implement a naming system for planets and so on.

[strange yacht]

I understand that, but I don't want to reset. That's why I asked if there is anything I might miss out on, apart from the convenience of jumping to another universe.

[merry estuary]

Ah. Im not sure if the Remembrance is awarded for refusing, the wiki says nothing on this matter so I would assume yes.

Give me a moment

Yep, sure does.

So feel free to brat on the atlas :P

[strange yacht]

thanks

[strange yacht]

so Atlas won’t like refuse option?

[merry estuary]

Who likes being refused?

It wont matter ultimately

[uncut harness]

The Atlas doesnt like anything that isnt exactly what it wants

its a bit of a control freak tbh

[merry estuary]

Its an AI that is meant to be the literal allpowerful creator of this simulation, and its also afraid of dying. How could you not be asking for every bit of control in its situation 😄

[analog breach]

Any new leads on exadecimal or autophage number sequences?

[sharp musk]

Does it matter which one i pick

1 Yes

Yes

YES!!!

Well it doesnt matter which one

THE ATLAS HAS 16 MINUTES OF OPERATIONAL TIME?!

[heady wyvern]

16 minutes on its timescale. To us, that might as well be infinity.

[sharp musk]

oh ok

BUT THIS QUEST IS SO SAD I COULD CRY

[opal rivet]

I had no expectations going into the story. A simulation was a good twist I think

Also opens the door for future content in some ways

[ashen haven]

Today I learned I need to ||advance the main storyline|| before I can hire an Overseer

[thorny citrus]

Bought this game on launch and didn't understand the story at all. Just found out about Atlas... and now I'm bummed. Poor computer, I wish the devs would expand on the story and give us a route to help it. I know dark tragic stories are all the rage right now, but having a happy ending with Atlas and maybe even giving an option so all the sentinels are friendly would be so nice.

[tough crystal]

What is the atlas

[jovial trail]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)

[dense quartz]

You wanna know something dumb about that? If you start a save without the tutorial disabled and get a freighter base.. You're forced to make a planetary base first so you can hire an overseer and unlock base parts that are exclusive to the freighter, without any relation to one another

[ashen haven]

Well damn, somehow I got my hands on a construction terminal without advancing the plot

[uncut harness]

There's already a ton of content around the simulation, waking titan goes into it in detail

[uncut harness]

Try reading the remembrance terminal logs, they have great lore and there's a bit at the end that you might like

[thorny citrus]

I tried looking up terminal logs, and I apologize for not knowing - are these the logs I get along the Atlas path?

[uncut harness]

they're sometimes known as rogue data if you're trying to find them online, but in game, if you have remembrance installed from the end of the atlas path, you can visit the rooms at the back of space stations, some of them will have a terminal that you can interact with for the snippets

although they arent stored in your collected knowledge so read them through fully

[solar cairn]

Nothing I've seen, not yet

[analog breach]

Wait. Are this banners always been in empty vendor booth on anomaly beside ares? They give very atlantid | crimson vibes

[mental socket]

they've been there since the anomaly revamp yup

2019

[analog breach]

Ok thx

[light vigil]

hey so

i like to run my saves as the good guy etc

im not sure sucking dead travellers' souls into a jar to put into a meatship is very morally correct

[quaint mason]

Ikr I was doing starbirth for the first time and I was surprised that we had to capture travelers for it but also their confusion and fear makes it disturbing. Plus there is no real warning before. I didn’t think my cool ship would have such a creation process..

[analog breach]

Better to be soul in a ship than in a grave i guess

[light vigil]

well they sure didnt seem thrilled about it

[urban river]

I like to think they are exploring again.…

[digital epoch]

I like to think they are send to the world of glass and some of their data is taken or copied to make the soul of the first ship

Keep in mind literally any other organic ship we find we repair it with it's soul still intact and not needing to be replaced

[cedar plank]

Is there any way to get back to Eissentam after Ive teleported out and forgot to activate the station teleporter?

[shut swan]

If you built a base there and you can go back anytime

[cedar plank]

I didnt :(

[brazen cedar]

did you stop at any space stations

[cedar plank]

I didnt, I had a mission to summon the anomaly again and left via that teleporter

[brazen cedar]

so - check the big teleporter on the anomaly, and see if any of the "featured bases" arte in eissantam.
so- if the above doesn't work, go to the LFG channel and ask if anyone is willign to give you a taxi to Eissantam

[cedar plank]

is there a way to check the featured ones? or just try em all?

[brazen cedar]

top three in the device. Any that are not in your curent galaxy will list what galaxy they are in

i believe "perk coffeee" (eissantam) is still up

[cedar plank]

IT IS!

Thank you!

[snow gust]

What is glass referring too?

[shut swan]

I answered the same question over at ArG spoilers #nms-arg-2023 message

[silent gorge]

whoa first time i've seen one of these

"Emergency Civilisation Shelter Pod"

[quaint mason]

Wow

[karmic jackal]

Question, with the choice of Artemis's fate, does it impact the story based off of what I chose?

[quaint mason]

Kinda, they will say different things based on what you chose

But picking one or the other doesnt ruin it or anything or make a lasting impact

[karmic jackal]

I kept him alive

Let's just hope I dont screw things up :D

[merry estuary]

Outside of some lines of dialogue, no

[uncut harness]

Unfortunately most of the choices you make story wise have no consequence

[wild dune]

ok I have a question, has anyone discussed what "the metallic pole & wire thing at the pelvic area inside the player's third person view model "…is?

[merry estuary]

The... What?

Screenshot maybe?

[solar cairn]

Hydraulics?

[wild dune]

just sent one in #nms-media

It's surprisingly detailed and unaffected by any changes made in appearance modifier.

[iron kraken]

hey what's with the sentinels and glass?

[slim otter]

do yall think crimson or atlantid is the better ending for the expedition

[tame grotto]

You may also inquire about this in #nms-expedition ... if worried about spoilers, you may use spoiler tags there wrapping text with double pipe characters like this: ||spoiler text||

[neat plume]

If you let her die shes gone but if you let her live she'll keep talking to you from within the simulation

[wild dune]

The world of glass is sentinels' home world (sort of)

[late tusk]

it looks like a giant spark plug

[safe kiln]

waist/stomach area of the construct chestpiece

[karmic jackal]

It's a she????

[heady wyvern]

Most sentient beings in this game are textually referred to with "they/them," but people seem to be hung up on the fact that "Artemis" is also the name of a woman

[karmic jackal]

I thought is was a he...

[neat plume]

I've always heard people call artemis a woman

[heady wyvern]

See above

[neat plume]

Plus we know the vy'keen have some kind of gender system from the lore with the exocraft mechanic

[heady wyvern]

But, in my observation, characters in the game consistently referred to Artemis as "they."

[shut swan]

Artemis is considered feminine due to the goddess Artemis, but it is not a strictly female name, there are fictional male characters out there that are named Artemis, like Artemis Fowl or Artemis Entreri

Plus like @heady wyvern said, none of the character are gendererd aside from ||the void mother||, just called They/Them, so we can't know for sure the gender of Artemis, like any of the characters in the game

[heady wyvern]

I personally believe that Travellers exist completely outside our concept of gender, but that's just one man's take.

[latent prawn]

Is it possible to complete The Space Anomaly quest? I Refused The Atlas and now im just stuck on Enjoy reality while it lasts and it says to purchase blueprints and base parts...of which I have all of them already

[heady wyvern]

The quest will remain.

Perpetually.

[latent prawn]

ok thats what I figured, same with the New Beginngins quest as well

[uncut harness]

Playing through the story reveals a dark existence for the dominant lifeforms of space in game. Eg I'm under the suspicion and if you recall the gek/vykeen invasion which depicts a warrior like brutal gek and super friendly vykeen before their DNA was mixed. Which kind of means that gek have the personality of a true vykeen, while the vykeen have the true personality of the gek as a result. It just gets darker the whole way through.

[uncut harness]

Which actually makes mad sense, if you pay attention to the kzzzt you'll realize late game its really a reality glitch itself and artemis wasn't alive the whole time (apparently), however like in the early game if you change dialog with artemis such as choosing to remain silent you'll notice the response he gives changes. I believe that artemis is dead and alive simultaneously seeing as the universe isn't singular in terms of reality (complicated) perhaps artemis is in fact a they/them he, or she and having full cognitive awareness as a traveler which allows them to communicate through a multitude of dimensions. It is highly probable seeing as what we received was merely a recording upon finding dead artemis that we only encountered a sigular dimension wherein artemis was dead. However like with talking with mr.pyramid face at the same location (which he was not at) it is entirely possible to be in a different reality dimension basically at the same place and since dialog changes with artemis its possible artemis exists in multiple dimensions simultaneously :3

If this is true then nada and polo are very intelligently as well as correctly defining the artemis entity.

And at the first space station you visit to back this thesis. You'll find a entity stuck between dimensions and afraid (for obvious reasons)

Also nada entity refers to itself in plural terms cleverly i might add. You don't summon the space anomaly, you summon that dimensions anomaly, and since that can travel through time as well as space & since no 1 of those in any dimension is limited by space in terms of distance or with any relationship to time. It could theoretically be everywhere and nowhere simultaneously! Nada seems to be aware of this, as mentioned in terms such as hiding. It appears to me the Atlas is actually unaware of this. But is a machine. The others are not and appear much more unique than other lifeforms mind you, and with far superior technology.

Sorry to spam :3

[wild dune]

no I mean there's a huge difference between the two

[safe kiln]

I took a look in-game and Identified many similar features

[wild dune]

ok just check that, u right

[safe kiln]

yeah. weird that it's present in all cases, though. HG must've misplaced it

not too big of a deal, all things considered

[wild dune]

guess every traveller is essentially a construct (lol

[thorn ravine]

oh ok, cause when i warped once, the purge went up

[prime inlet]

the purge requires 16 warps in any direction

to progress to the next stage

[thorn ravine]

but at the same time i warped to an atlas station

i thought the purge was a seperate thing

[brazen cedar]

||the atlas will interrupt your trip and give you a choice to end the quest early||

[thorn ravine]

15 more warps

oops

opps

will it break my stuff like it normaly would

[prime inlet]

atlas path and the purge can be progressed and completed in tandem

[prime inlet]

if you accept the purge, yes

[thorn ravine]

wait are they both the main story/

cause im confused

wdym accept the purge

[brazen cedar]

atlas was the first story, atrtemis was added later int he game's existence

[thorn ravine]

ohh

[brazen cedar]

the purge will give you a choice we can't make for you; accept or deny. Just get there.

[thorn ravine]

can i get some advice once i get there

i still gotta warp 14 more times

[brazen cedar]

Did you have a hard time deciding what to do with Artemis?

[thorn ravine]

nah

[brazen cedar]

Then you won't need advice.

[thorn ravine]

i would want to live, so i did what i wanted

i made her live

[brazen cedar]

Then you won't accept 😄

[thorn ravine]

oh god

[brazen cedar]

Accept gives you an extra item though.

So you'll have to decide. IT might be an idea to check the wiki for ALL the details if you really need advice there's a lot to it.

[thorn ravine]

will if effect the end result, as in things i gain, im not to deep into the story

[brazen cedar]

accepting gives you ONE item you wouldn't get elsewise... an extra health + pip

[thorn ravine]

yo this is kinda sad tho, apollo saying goodbye

[thorn ravine]

worth?

how goods the extra item

whats pip

[brazen cedar]

nevermind you get the item anyhow

refusing will mean you dont get a specific title (the last) and will mean you still need to ask for directions to the core of the galaxy.

thats it.

pip = health point top left. also if you warp with ship rather than freighter you'll get more lore along the way

@plain kelp it basically either ends your conversations with her or continues them from time to time, changing a few dialogues. Nothing else.

[thorn ravine]

more lore

my next warp will be 16 out of 26

16

but i had apollo call, null, and the other girl i saved

all doing the song and dance im sure you know

what i miss

so the option i pick will not determine anytihng out side of story, ill still get the ite, ill just need to wkr for it

[rigid socket]

Is there any new leak in this update?7 g for fixing bugs ? I don’t believe that

[analog breach]

Experimental branch Updated recently. Give dataminers time

[urban venture]

So like resisting the Galaxy? Should I do it? I hear it breaks all my stuff?

[merry estuary]

Resetting the galaxy sends you to a new one, breaking all your suit, MT, and shiptech in the process

@urban venture

Whether you do it or not:

[urban venture]

Hm

Kind of just wish the main story really went somewhere. Feels like I did it all for nothing.

[merry estuary]

That is subjective after all... I liked where the story took me.

But you are welcome to suggest changes

[safe kiln]

Could be argued that that’s the point

[sour fossil]

Nothing new content wise, just bug fixes

And yes, the size is normal. You can't download a single line of code or a single binary that needed to be fixed

You gotta download a whole archive again that has the file / files that were changed

[analog breach]

More fixes is always good

[urban venture]

So for the main quests is there really anything else to do or it it finished?

[quaint mason]

Nope you're done. Those quests won't disappear but if they're selected you wont have to get popups from any other quests which is nice.

[minor yacht]

When this happens I can do whatever I want now like explore and stuff right without my save going bye bye

[random crane]

What exactly are the benefits or rewards of planting the seed of hope or not?

[wind fog]

You get a different head cosmetic depending on which you choose.

[random crane]

What are the options and affiliated rewards?

NEver mind, I connected the dots

[wild dune]

It's simply implying that HG coding is shitty that they have to rewrite lots of stuff for every small fix.

more accurately, to overwrite the PLAYERS' files every time.

[sour fossil]

We had discussion about this today morning, so Imma just drop the link to it here: #no-mans-sky message

[analog breach]

Singularity expedition . void mother , abbys
singularity engine 🤔 freighter tech that you can use as personal black hole jump.
Didint ariadne jumped to the void using freighter?

[merry estuary]

Whot

Where is that referenced?

[analog breach]

I think it was in pillar logs

[shut swan]

Nah the ariadne thing was during the 2020 missions, the pillars just uses their name as an override code

and they weren't in a freighter, they crashed their ship on a planet and it's there that the void took them

[analog breach]

But how you could possibly land in the void?

Only thing that comes to my mind could be the singularity engine.

[shut swan]

During those weekend missions the lore was talking about cracks in reality that gave access to the void, and that you had to fix during the missions. So i guess they crashed and stumbled on one of those

[sour fossil]

It was also mentioned that whatever thing we see at Ariadne's spot in Space Anomaly is not the real Ariadne

Void doppelganger? Spy?

[safe kiln]

Indeed. The current Ariadne is an imposter

[shut swan]

Hence my "devil" card 😈 #no-mans-art message

[analog breach]

Void dragons and glass angels when ?

[buoyant herald]

is there a story reason that sentinels guard depots and manufacturing facilities? what reason do they have to protect them?

[glad quiver]

guys i send an image on #nms-media can someone help me

why every time i turn on every red glow and after that i create the "globe" and it makes me create a new galaxy but after the mission it doesn't go on and i get stuck

[autumn berry]

what do you mean doesnt go on?

doing the new galaxy thing is kind of it

[glad quiver]

after i create a galaxy the quest doesn't proceed

[autumn berry]

you're in a new galaxy correct?

[glad quiver]

u mean when i am with the atlas or after

[autumn berry]

after

you should be in a new galaxy, damaged ship

on a planet

[glad quiver]

ok yeah i did that

[autumn berry]

after that, in quest log, you should see a quest for 'The Atlas Path'

[glad quiver]

yeah i have that quest

[autumn berry]

Nothing else to progress. Feel free to do any quests

you did progress in the quest all the way to the end

[glad quiver]

so i dont have no more main mission

[autumn berry]

not that specific one

Did you do the Artemis quests?

[glad quiver]

yeah

I trapped her

[autumn berry]

welp, you're at where I am for main quests. I don't think there are others. Can explore to find new things, do an expedition save (quickly before this one ends), build stuff, find secondary quests that are splattered around but take a bunch of time, do the atlas seeds

the universe is your oyster

[glad quiver]

do the atlas seed?

like the orbs?

[autumn berry]

it appears recurring

there are a lot of galaxies

[glad quiver]

oh ok

thank u very much

[autumn berry]

no problem

:3

[quasi tartan]

Guys - got a query. Every time I warp to a system , I get a message that says ‘data injection, sequence received, source unknown’ and a tally goes up ‘atlas sequence 5/16’. Do I need to have completed all other quests (base building etc) before I get to 16/16? Will I still be able to progress those?

[sour fossil]

You will be able to progress them later

[quasi tartan]

Great thanks!

[tough vigil]

I feel bad for killing Artemis :(

Bad for apollo

[urban river]

I set Artemis free……

[uncut harness]

whats the best galaxy to choose at the atlast interface final mission? There's a red, green, blue and white one.

[sour fossil]

There is no best, different galaxy types have different chances for specific biome planets

Most people go for green for lush galaxies with higher chances for lush planets

Blue is empty galaxy with more Dead biome planets, Red - harsh with more storms, cyan - norm, balanced like Euclid

[steady mural]

What is the world of glass? And why does NMS keep mentioning glass? Can we get to this world?

"The promised star will be yours"
Glass Glass Glass Glass Glass Glass Glass

GLASS

Why does it keep mentioning this?

I have been playing for a year and still don't understand.

[rocky heath]

From what I understand, it’s a world without death. Apparently it’s a big part of the sentinel’s lore

[steady mural]

Can we get there?

[rocky heath]

Not that I’m aware, no.

[steady mural]

Dang

They must really like glass.

Glass obsession.

[merry estuary]

Now think of the fact that sentinels drop salvaged glass when killed

[steady mural]

YES

Get good stuff from that.

[rocky heath]

I think the glass in question is the stuff called Atlantideum

[steady mural]

GlAsS

[rocky heath]

Might be wrong

[steady mural]

OOH GOOD IDEA

YES

I have a ton of that.

I also have a ton of contraban and illegal items.

WHAT is the 'Voice Of The Hive'?

Sentinel leader?

[sharp inlet]

Before you ask, YES - there are spoilers, and then there are spoilers
Credits: @outer cobalt @sharp acorn

[winged moon]

Ooo

[heady wyvern]

Woah. Very strange indeed.

[brazen cedar]

this creature has been posted twice in the past few weeks - i am not sure if it was with the same name, but i dont think so

[tough vigil]

What did -null- do???

Ik that he did smth horrible

But idk what

[sharp inlet]

@brazen cedar Yes, but afaik, the other posters encountered em as wandering NPCs on freighter in Uncharted systems. This is proof that theyre actually set up as a fully functional race, able to be interacted with as freighter capt and navigator

[brazen cedar]

ah i didn't gather that from the image. They were interacting with it in command rooms i believe, not on bridge, didnt think there was a distinction

[sharp inlet]

@brazen cedar Yeah, that interaction bubble is the key - remember that interaction code must be written so that it covers all potential dialogues and situations an NPC race can be rendered in to.
The connection I already made that most wont is that a functional Freighter crew means Freighters under their control in the wild - which means star systems under their control, a preferred ship type, recruitable squad members, and on, and on

[sour fossil]

Does it? In uncharted systems it's possible to see the travellers from Nexus and story line NPCs wandering about, I think they also have interaction bubbles but no associated dialouge

If you try to interact with them, game zooms in onto the NPC and locks out due to missing dialogue

So I wouldn't take the presence of interaction popup as an evidence just yet

[indigo night]

https://youtu.be/f1Fxxp04rFw

[sharp inlet]

@sour fossil Is a good point, but I thought of it too and asked for confirmation those interactions actually work. 🙂

[sour fossil]

Really?

What in Gleams name

[broken pebble]

I think I may have messed up bad. When I finished the Atlas I was transported to another galaxy, and all my things were broken. I fixed everything and went to the space station and portaled back to my home base. A friend told me that I should have made a base there, to be able to go back to that galaxy, and I didn't do that. So I went to the center of Euclid thinking I could get to another galaxy from there. Nope, I can't choose to go to another one. Am I screwed? An I stuck in Euclid forever?

[velvet ivy]

No, it's not an issue
If you used the space station teleporter you can use that to go back as well, even if you simply landed in the station in the other galaxy

And you can warp to new galaxies, or hitch a ride if you're not on switch

[broken pebble]

At the center of Euclid, I can't seem to choose a star that gets me to a new galaxy, all my choices are still in Euclid. Unless I am missing something, or doing it wrong.

[velvet ivy]

Id just use the station teleporter
But you can type !faq-corewarp in #bot-spam for a tutorial/faq

[broken pebble]

Thanks!

[velvet ivy]

Sure, happy travels
What platform are you on btw?

[broken pebble]

I am on a Mac.

[velvet ivy]

Ok, then you can also hail a starcab or hitch a ride with other players here

!starcablink

[cloud jolt]

https://discord.gg/WgUdnbZJjh

[broken pebble]

I just combed thru all the space stations on the portal list and I found it, the Hilbert dimension.

[analog breach]

|| Someone data mined new "npcrobot" skin. What do think it will be used for? The fact that he welds spear is intresting ||

[pure night]

To Warp to new galaxy.l using galaxy map.

Step 1 make sure you have galactic center route selected

Step 2 make sure your huperdrive fuel is 100%

Step 3 make your you hold your button down to get it to transfer to the center (now honesty this is on xbox not sure how PC and switch and vr controls are)

Now that'd just a simplified way

[small pier]

We have any news or theories on when the next update/expedition is? We're still one to two months away aren't we?

[sharp musk]

idk

[solar cairn]

No clue yet

[velvet garden]

theres a really long iteration number at the very start of the game when you find your ship and interact with the distress beacon. is that the player character's iteration or is it the previous iteration's number?

also im 90% sure we get the base computer archive guy's iteration number as well but i cant find it anywhere for some reason

[solar cairn]

Those iteration strings are at most distress beacons, if I recall

[sullen hornet]

It would be awesome if it becomes two factions of robots, with the side you chose in the expedition being the one you ally with, while the other one actively fights you, making them effectively a bipedal hostile faction

And the option to side with one or another could be turned on or off at any time, making a sort of universe pvp maybe?

They said the choice has lasting consequences, I just wonder if they meant the helmets only, or a more far reaching choice that manifests in the next update

[solar cairn]

Won't know until the emoji drops

[sullen hornet]

Even the emoji is usually pretty vague

[solar cairn]

Yes

It generates hype, and people talking

You'd be surprised how much clickbait can be generated off of one snowflake emoji

[analog breach]

Factions yeah, maybe ,but in what purpose? To fight eachother? Big doubt , for what?

[solar cairn]

Pvp is also a pipe dream. But it is what it is

[sullen hornet]

It's definitely not likely, I'm just trying to speculate why they are building two sides of what seems to be an imminent conflict in the story

How it might relate to potential gameplay features

It's very difficult to predict what actually ends up in an update. Hello are full of surprises

[solar cairn]

It's great no?

[nova shoal]

how do i reset the simulation in the space anomaly quest after atlas gets destroyed? going to the room to the right of the teleporter room and using the terminal doesnt work

[solar cairn]

You can't reset the sim in the Anomaly... Do you mean Artemis?

[tranquil crow]

I beat the main quest and got the living ships and frigates and don’t know what to do anymore, what are some things to do that’s like new ?

[dense quartz]

I'll never forget how people were seriously, genuinely expecting a whole new modern engine port with waterfalls and rivers...
And it was just a small QoL update.

[analog breach]

I Still have hopes for rivers and waterfalls.

[shut swan]

People's speculations are so insanely wild sometimes

[opaque fulcrum]

It’s part of the fun, but there’s a danger of getting your expectations set too high

[dense quartz]

It's just an iconic moment for me how the speculation came from absolutely nowhere

Sean: Snowflake emoji.
Community: "Yeah we're getting A NEW ENGINE PORT."

[opaque fulcrum]

Least unhinged update conspiracy theory

[quaint mason]

Yeah um so we haven't gotten any news so obviously we're getting no mans sky 2 🥱

[bold raft]

The one is still practically an infant why need a 2 when one can be a 2 and 3 combined

[quaint mason]

Ik

[random crane]

What exactly is the 'life cycle' of a Korvax? is it like in Darwinia, where they live their life seperated from others, then when they 'die' their memories and experiences are uploaded to a repository for the next generation?

[mortal umbra]

why couldnt we have just put artemis' mind ark inside of a minotaur

instead of putting him inside a fake universe

[verbal stump]

amazing idea

[quaint mason]

Ikr or a humanoid robot

[dense quartz]

Or on our freighter, have her walk around our base, let her see the sights etc

[random crane]

I havent played this game in a while. How do I get the mission that unlocks the little scanner companion and make my minotaur look like a sentinal mech thing?

[quaint mason]

For the minotaur, trace of metal quest

[random crane]

How do I obtain the quest?

[quaint mason]

Uh

[tame grotto]

Through your settlement

[quaint mason]

Well there are 2 related to each other, the settlement one and it but I'm not sure which leads to the other

[random crane]

oh I dont have one yel lol

[quaint mason]

Probably settlement but to get that quest is rng probably

If you warp a lot you might get it

[tame grotto]

Except on Nintendo Switch, in order to trigger the mission's start, the player must meet the following requirements:

• Own a Planetary Settlement.
• 'The Settlers' entry in the mission log says the player is 'free to explore', i.e. there are no outstanding settlement mission objectives or resources to collect.
• The player is not in the same system as their settlement. If the mission has not triggered, despite the above requirements being met, the player should use their ship's hyperdrive to warp to nearby systems twice and the mission will start.
• On Nintendo Switch, the mission starts after the player has warped 25 times.
  https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/A_Trace_of_Metal

[random crane]

So, just own a settlement and get them out of crisis?

[tame grotto]

Own a settlement and has no outstanding settlement objectives. After you claim it, there are various things they make you to do build on it. I'm assuming those are the objectives the wiki must be referring to.

[random crane]

Good first impression 😂

[quaint mason]

Relatable

[tame grotto]

Sold

[quaint mason]

Heres one of mine

[random crane]

oh boy and its on a dissonant

[random crane]

this doesnt seem good, should I try a different settlment?

[tame grotto]

They all start at C. Settlements are sadly not a major investment. For most players, they end up collecting dust once they're fully built. They're nearly impossible to get to S-class even if you diligently keep up with its missions. If you'd like to look for a better location, that's cool. In respect to stats, they don't make much difference. They all do level up based on choices you make for it over a long period of time

[random crane]

mans is typing a collage essay

I mean overall its just +1 happy, and costs more. not so bad I guess

thats not right

[rancid flax]

even this was eventually turned around

[analog breach]

Cursed ground, quick sands, plauges, sentinel raids are nothing to WORST perk you can have:
RUDE NEIGHBORS

[haughty thunder]

i understand why settlement charts are hot garbage now

my first and only settlement is located on an ugly toxic planet so i figured id do another elsewhere

[analog breach]

Only thing that maters is location. And maybe what the settlement will produce. But you cant check that right away

[haughty thunder]

but even if you land on a planet and use the chart it'll point to offplanet settlements 💀

i don't really care about what it produces i just want a decently pretty location

[earnest cloud]

What's with the rebuilt units on dissonance planets ?

[karmic jackal]

Is it normal to get glyphs when warping???

[sonic dragon]

no XD

[karmic jackal]

Cause I am getting them

Every time I wark

Warp*

@sonic dragon

[sonic dragon]

lol

[sonic dragon]

ok you new?

[karmic jackal]

Wdym by that

[sonic dragon]

to nms?

[karmic jackal]

If you ment if I have reset the Simulation? I have

I forgot that during the purge

Every time you warp

You get a new glyph

[sonic dragon]

XD

[karmic jackal]

I'm dumb

[sonic dragon]

oh your near the end storyline?

[karmic jackal]

Of a new save

[sonic dragon]

ok ya

[karmic jackal]

I reset everything before

[sonic dragon]

the 16 16 16

[karmic jackal]

I just forgot crap

Havnt played in 6 months or so

[sonic dragon]

i havent not played for 6 years or so

also whats this sleep you talk of?

[tame grotto]

Yes, during The Purge mission from the Artemis questline

[karmic jackal]

That's why.

Thanks

I forgot about that

[tame grotto]

That's why it's recommended to do that mission in parallel when doing the Atlas questline which also requires warps. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone

[karmic jackal]

What is the glyph combination to get near the center of euclids galaxy

[sour fossil]

12x will get you close enough

[karmic jackal]

12 of those? Alrighty

[torpid marten]

Hey i need help

Im on the last Mission and I’m now infront of the atlas

It says
Ask if there’s another way
Reset Simulation
Refuse The Atlas.
What should I do

[small pier]

I really do hope HelloGames re-review the Settlement aspects to the game at some point, I loved doing settlements

[sharp musk]

oof reset simulation

or basically do whatever you want

i reset simulation and saved at right time to pick up both titles

[tame grotto]

I see Friendly replied. If you ever need help with tips and glyphs to get to the center, you can run !Faq-CoreWarp in #bot-spam

[torpid marten]

I just want to know what is a better choice and what does happen

[sharp musk]

Reset Simulation is a good choice

[tame grotto]

Same. If any of you guys have ideas, I highly recommend submitting Suggestions via their Zendesk I'll post link below.

!Hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[torpid marten]

Well reset it is then

[tame grotto]

Reset so you're sent to a new galaxy. You get a choice of the type of galaxy too. And you can always come back to your previous galaxy via the teleporter if you have bases there or visited space stations.

[torpid marten]

Now what orb does what

[tame grotto]

There are 4 types of galaxies. The most common type players choose is the Lush type, which just offers a higher chance of finding Lush / paradise planets. But it's up to you

[sour fossil]

Galaxy types: #nms-spoilers message

[torpid marten]

What happens if I interact with a orb

Gives it me a decision to choose another or

[sharp musk]

Nope.

[torpid marten]

Then what rob is what galaxy

[sharp musk]

Green is the one I chose, but on my alt Imma choose red

Green = Eissentam

Red = Calypso

and i forgot the rest of the colors

but one gets you to hilbert

and one of them gets you to the 4th

th*

5th*

[torpid marten]

It gives me the choice to look at em

[sharp musk]

Dont do that one

[torpid marten]

Btw why is one of them called empty galaxy

[sharp musk]

well maybe-

Oh that is a special one... an ancestral one...

pick that one.

that one is the best option

[torpid marten]

That’s the blue one

That’s what fandom says-

[karmic jackal]

Uhhhhhhhh, what happens when you refuse the atlas

[tame grotto]

What types of galaxies are there, and how do they differ?

Lush, Empty, Normal and Harsh; the galaxy type affects the distribution of planet biomes in yellow systems, and probability of extreme survival planets.

also see <#nms-questions message>
https://wiki.step-project.com/NMS:Reference_Guides/Biomes/Biome_Probability
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471868642204712971/770237843943194624/unknown.png

[karmic jackal]

When choosing to reset

[karmic jackal]

Refuse the atlas, what happens when you choose that?

[tame grotto]

You're not sent to another galaxy

[karmic jackal]

Do you get a name thingy?

Forgot what it's callrd

[karmic jackal]

Sooooo, reset essentially?

[torpid marten]

Well there went my power-

Probably have to do the whole mission over

[tame grotto]

It's what most of us prefer if we want access to another galaxy earlier in the game, yes. Again, you can always teleport back to the previous galaxy if you've built bases there. You can teleport back and forth between multiple galaxies where you've visited space stations or built bases.

[karmic jackal]

That's handy

Extra exploration

My kind of style

[torpid marten]

Im still thinking

[sharp musk]

your power went out?

[torpid marten]

Yes

Had to load my save before entering portal

[sharp musk]

hmm

so dont refuse atlas

[torpid marten]

Ah the exotic planet

[sharp musk]

reset simulation

[torpid marten]

Wanted to do that

16 seconds yay

Why can’t I just become the atlas xd

[sharp musk]

NoNONOONONONO -kzzzzzt-

[torpid marten]

Right 16 destroys most of communications xd

[sharp musk]

-kzzzzZZZZZZT*-

[torpid marten]

I wish we could take null with us-

Such a nice person

Hmm what to choose

I think I choose green

[sharp musk]

I chose green too!

[torpid marten]

And after a bit of having fun I go to survival and then to permadeath

[sharp musk]

It gives you all the previous "Made journey to (insert galaxy name here)" titles

It goes up to Eissntam

eissentam*

[karmic jackal]

What are all the galaxy types?

I see red, green, blue and white

What do I choose?

[karmic jackal]

What do I choose

Green k

[karmic jackal]

Well

Almost repaired everything that broke

[tranquil crow]

I’m so confused on the game lore and main story and the ongoing story… can someone send me a youtuber that does lore videos ?

[karmic jackal]

1 thing left

[quaint mason]

How far in are you?

[tranquil crow]

Main story all done, atlas’s path, all that done

And I still don’t get anything

Something 16 and a simulation

I didn’t skip through any dialogue and I’m so lost in the story

And how far back am I?? I got the game a phew weeks back

There’s these planets with purple sentinels and sentinel buildings and I have no idea what any of it is

[quaint mason]

Hmm, well maybe then you should find a video that explains it

[tranquil crow]

That’s what I was asking about? I can’t find a single video with the full story.

It’s all little snips that I can’t connect cause idk any of the story

[quaint mason]

Yeah I know its pretty hard to find a video most cover parts of the lore not the story

[karmic jackal]

What does the remembrance do?

[sour fossil]

Adds 1 health point and allows you to access some lore terminals

[karmic jackal]

Oh

[sour fossil]

Can be found in back rooms at selected space stations and planetary structures like manufacturing facilities

[karmic jackal]

So useless then

Ohhhh

Gotcha

[karmic jackal]

What does the star seed do?

Just curious

[sour fossil]

Adds 1 health point

[karmic jackal]

Bru

[velvet garden]

its so weird how nobody has uploaded a page for the construct in the anomaly yet

[analog breach]

Is there an lore explanation why robo animals are only in uncharted systems?

[icy citrus]

No

[sly talon]

What do I choose? Seek the final interface? Complete the atlas path? Or explore the galaxy?

I don't know what any of them do

:(.

Hmmm

No one is here

[icy citrus]

Finish those first two quests, then explore

[sly talon]

Idk what I chose tbh I wasn't looking

[winter violet]

@amber mulch prob talking about someone else

[amber mulch]

hmm

Do you know who it might be?

[winter violet]

Atlas,null or apollo. Not sure tho

[sharp musk]

This is MY theory of why Sentinels reply to Gravitino Balls.
So, as the sentinels quitting their service to the A T L A S,
gravitino balls must have something to do with the atlas.
And if the sentinels did turn hostile toward the A T L A S,
they would NOT like you doing that, so they would execute you

[sly talon]

@icy citrus I'm sorry man idk how it happened :(. I was looking through my phone and accidentally touched my controller

[amber mulch]

Should I give the portal Glyphs to apollo in the quest?

[orchid relic]

That's a choice you'll have to make yourself and live with for the rest of your life

Give him the glyphs =
||he will be trying to get to you till the end, and after you learn of the truth of the universe, he will "race you to the core", you never hear from him after that, the end.||

Dont give him the glyphs =
||he will eventually become resentful and after you learn about the truth of the universe, he will decide to go through a random portal, you never hear from him after that, the end.||

||https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/wezhb9/tell_apollo_the_portal_glyphs_or_not/||

[amber mulch]

damn

[sly talon]

Why did no one tell me

That everything was going to break down once I create a new universe

[heady wyvern]

The truth is, everything was breaking down from the start.

Unless you mean your suit, multi tool, and ship, in which case oops.

[sly talon]

Yes I meant those also I chose the teal galaxy is that good?

[heady wyvern]

There's really no right or wrong answer here, though I think teal is the "Euclid-like" galaxy.

[sly talon]

It is the right most galaxy and I think it's the normal one

[tranquil crow]

So what’s the current expedition about if someone could give me a start to finish run down, I’m out of town atm and cant do it in time

[hybrid pendant]

well u have a choice between the atlas and the coruption in the end

[pale hazel]

okay, so
AWAKENING; Greatly Abridged By Someone Who Doesn't Know That Much

---

The Atlas is a supercomputer, likely on a dying Earth, that is capable of running a simulation spanning multiple galaxies. It did its job all fine and dandy for what COULD be centuries, though I'm not exactly sure.

---

The universe is quite hostile to computers, and one that's been running for a long time on a dying planet is no exception. A bug appeared in it's system, either from the slow degredation of galaxies filled to the brim with intelligent lifeforms eventually whittling down to the three you know today (), or its extremely hostile conditions, considering how the planet it's on is about to go kaboom; giving only 16 minutes until the simulation ends.

---

The Atlas' creator, still unknown, left it a while ago, so the Atlas attempted to create "new creators" from all of the experiences and data left over. Thus, the Travellers, and by extent, you, were created.

[tranquil crow]

Ah

[pale hazel]

and a side note about the Corrupted Sentinels

---

Somewhere inbetween the Gek, Vy'keen and Korvax being the only three and the bug forming, there existed Korvax Prime; the original homeworld of, well, the Korvax. It originally was meant to be a physical manifestation of the Atlas, but it kinda went kablammey due to the First Spawn.

---

Eventually, Korvax Prime's remains became the Atlantid, or the Void Mother; a rouge AI who seemingly doesn't really wanna stay in this simulation anymore; thus shards of it went to corrupt planets and Sentinels; forming those strange buggers and their Dissonance Resonators.

and that's about everything i know

[tranquil crow]

What about the constructs in the camps ?

[pale hazel]

oh yeah
i THINK those tie into the Singularity expedition

otherwise, they were also used as a way to find binary code that read " VOID MOTHER " when properly laid out

[dense quartz]

Something just hit me.
The sentinel pillar can give you every currently existing multitool in the game except the sentinel type multitool.

[dreamy blade]

Speaking of void mother, just found this in an archive

Oh wait, won’t let me do photos

“The Atlantid, called void mother by lesser voices, brought pilgrims kzzt its mass”

[pale hazel]

ooooh

so that IS confirmation that they're the same

[dreamy blade]

Yep, not just expedition-exclusive lore

[glass flare]

"The Atlantid" always makes Void Mother sound to me like some jetsetting, wealthy socialite

[shut swan]

I thought this was relatively well known since it's written on the Lore page of the wiki

The names "void mother" and "Atlantid" have been sitting there for three years and it's only with the sentinels update that we could finally link all of that with "the Abyss" lol

[analog breach]

Many just skips txt that are not in main quests

[shut swan]

yeah i know, that's sad though, that's where all the juicy lore is 🤤

I'm a sucker for lore, the type that just reads every log, book and item description in games haha

[young mica]

I actually did tell you a few days ago lmao

[sly talon]

I don't remember :D.

I am a dumbass

[earnest pumice]

Okay spoilers ahead but if I pick Harsh galaxy what happens

[tame grotto]

In case this helps...

What types of galaxies are there, and how do they differ?

Lush, Empty, Normal and Harsh; the galaxy type affects the distribution of planet biomes in yellow systems, and probability of extreme survival planets.

also see <#nms-questions message>
https://wiki.step-project.com/NMS:Reference_Guides/Biomes/Biome_Probability
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471868642204712971/770237843943194624/unknown.png

It mostly affects "chances" of types of systems you'll come across. Less chances for lush (aka paradise) chill planets

If you want greater likelihood of challenge with weather hazards, harsh is probably a good good option. I'm not sure how that may also play out with sentinels. Cc @prime inlet

[karmic jackal]

Sooo, I have the pet sentinal right? I just finished the base archive missions....the setinal has the same name as the name in the archives.....coincidence? I THINK NOT!

[quaint mason]

You are right, when laylaps is referred to its indeed the blue drone companion

[karmic jackal]

I CALLED IT

[dense quartz]

It's really weird how updates from a long time ago have been talking about content that's been added to the game recently, as if HG planned out their roadmap for years in advance.
The base missions are from 2018 and they talk about Laylaps but he's been added to the game last year.
Dreams of the deep is also from 2018 but hints at dissonance worlds that were added this year

[karmic jackal]

Maybe the lore is update plans

[shut swan]

I think they have a global idea of the lore that we don't know yet and they're just adding it bit by bit

[dense quartz]

My new headcanon is that all the seeds we put into Nada's terminal started raining down on Artemis in the simulation.

[analog breach]

Sentinel pillar lore:
3rd EncounterWe awoke to a song, chanted on a thousand frequencies. “Behold the drones of the hive, the walkers, the ships… Eheu! Behold the angels of glass, come from their heaven. Their work is the completion of all things, of life, of worlds. So the Korvax worshipped. So they prayed.4th EncounterAs we swam with void dragons, robotic lifeforms would delight in our presence, but organics would shoot us from the sky. But we had no fear of death. We knew we had never been alive.

The what? void DRAGONS? ANGELS of glass? 👀

GIB NOW

[analog breach]

Yeah ^ 😊

[shut swan]

I'd definitely see something in between, a mechanical/robot dragon like the sentinels, but with purple crystals like the corrupted ones

[analog breach]

Or with skin like the living ships have and crystals

[shut swan]

That could work too

[earnest pumice]

Did anyone else condemn thanks or just me

[earnest pumice]

Well, I decided to reset

By thanks I meant null

[tame grotto]

No choice is a bad choice in this game

Or in that storyline

If you mean reset for the galaxy, it's what most of us choose

[wraith grail]

what are you guys talking about

which part of which storyline

[tame grotto]

Main Artemis storyline

[tame grotto]

And I think most of us || put Artemis to rest || if that's what Vapur was referring to

[dusk tusk]

hear me out: notice the way they implemented multiplayer

[earnest pumice]

I did not lol

||I put her in the simulation||

[tame grotto]

Personal choice

[wraith grail]

i did

i freaking hate artemis

[earnest pumice]

Actually I feel the only good choice I made was ||telling Apollo not to go through||

[wraith grail]

artemis is so stupid

i have beef with artemis

[earnest pumice]

If you think about it, all four main travelers suffer the same issue

They don't know when to quit Lol

[tame grotto]

Tell us how you really feel

[wraith grail]

artemis is ugly

[earnest pumice]

||Artemis died from a portal, -Null- destroyed their universe to learn more, Apollo wants to learn more about atlas for money, and you nearly died twice trying to learn more and find artemis.||

Everyone wanted to learn more and it either nearly kills them or makes them do questionable things

Or just straight up kills them

[dusk tusk]

yet you survived and found all the answers. eventually

[earnest pumice]

But you learn something you REALLY didn't want to know

[wraith grail]

haha actually i died before i even found out who artemis was

on my first save

from sentinels

[dusk tusk]

oh i think i did have one early death in a fight too

it was in space dogfight

[wraith grail]

i died during the base building mission

2 hours in

all i got to do was place some floors

[earnest pumice]

I just realized resetting the galaxy is kinda a bad choice, now Artemis Apollo and -Null- (even though the last one deserves it) don't exist anymore, you effectively killed them just because you have to see what happens

[wild dune]

the worst part could be that you remembered all of it (*Remembrance

[earnest pumice]

Kinda like -Null-

I think the whole message behind the main story is it's four characters who can't stop themselves from pursuing knowledge, they want to know everything. Those that don't make it through just bite it, but those that do (Us and Null) have to deal with the memories not just of what we did but what was sacrificed all so we can "Get answers"

[wooden anchor]

So morality question || is it wrong to reset the simulation as Null and a few others are aware of what's going on ||

[bright whale]

I think as the carrier of Telamon it's your duty to reset the simulation.

[cerulean brook]

Sometimes duties conflict. Then there is only the choice.

[sour fossil]

New emotes icons from game files

Pasted from last to first, lol

[mental socket]

today's experimental?

[sour fossil]

Nope, been in the game files since at least 4.36

Cause I think that's what I had decompiled last time

Next items in the QS store list are the 6 jetpack trails

However they dont have icons yet

😄

(or the build I decompiled does not have them yet but they are in a newer one)

[crude sand]

I wonder if it needs an icon 🤔

[wild dune]

All hail the great Blob

[analog breach]

Or the jetpack trails are just a placeholder for other items. ( missing catalouge base parts)

[unborn bough]

Existed before

[sour fossil]

New as in "new items in QS shop"

[unborn bough]

I meant it has existed in the game files before.

[analog breach]

Kinda disapointed that these are "emotes" not a hologram base part.

[cerulean brook]

Yeah, me too. Emotes don't do me any good, as a VR player. Oh, well.

[crimson yew]

Would you rather be q ghost stuck in singulariy hell for the rest of your days or be at rest

Can I spoil another game to explain my point lol

[crimson yew]

Is telamon the dude we iced. Or am I missing some deep lore for our little sentry friend

[dense quartz]

I dont understand what you could do with the hologram emotes.
Come to think of it, I dont understand why npcs show you holograms either lol

[bright whale]

Telamon is the voice of our exosuit(s), as far as I am aware.

[heady wyvern]

From my understanding, Telamon was a sort of diagnostic system for the Atlas, who was banished into being the voice that nags you about your hazard system shortly after Atlas went AWOL.

[sour fossil]

Because that's how you deal with software going wayhire

Start yeeting out legacy components

What ever could go wrong

[grim ravine]

Why am I getting a traveler entity and a construct as a spawn on my freighter??

Unmodded PS5 version btw

[dense quartz]

Known bug. Someone reports it like every 2-5 days

[grim ravine]

🥲 Kinda want this as an in game thing now....

[uncut harness]

I'm hoping full glass Pane windows for Frieghter bases

[dense quartz]

Same. Nada is like "Ye you could upload Artemis in a simulation or kill her lol"
But like, why can't we upload her to a thing on our freighter and have her hologram be projected throughout our base?

[next rapids]

I killed that bi-

[charred temple]

Wait has nada been a she all this time-

[shut swan]

Aside from the void mother, I don't think there's any gendered character in the game

Especially for Korvax the concept of gender doesn't really make sense as they don't even reproduce like that

[heady wyvern]

Hirk and Nal, two characters from Vy'keen history, are the only beings I've seen referred to with binary gendered pronouns.

[uncut harness]

So i think this is the best room for this
What's the lore behind the death systems ? the ones you go and the space station is completly destroyed, with "moss" all around and everthing all red

[wild dune]

i would just blame on the Abyss. It's the best explanation for Everything™️.

Especially since the icon for Biological Horror was changed to a purple square in some recent update.

[uncut harness]

Soooo... are we all getting that background kzzkkkt sound with some kind of embedded or morse code in it when we start the game? Is that a bug?

On the game selection (landing) screen?

PC/Steam player here, in case that may matter.

[sullen hornet]

The music the game starts on is usually random

[analog breach]

Welp. I spoiled the upcoming jetpack trails for myself. They look good tho.

Was wondering if they are just a placeholder name or a real thing

Ofc. Devs can move it for later like the hologram emotes

[uncut harness]

Does... does this mean we're being corrupted without our knowledge? I mean.... kzzkkt..... does it? (grin)

[uncut harness]

Subsystem that dealt with security parameters. Suspect ATLAS yeeted it into the exosuit so it wouldn't stop them from resetting as often as they like. Which, interestingly, implies that ATLAS knows what it's doing is a violation and actively intends to bypass its own protocols, which heavily implies actual sentience. Which has kind of introduced a whole 'how much behavior can exist before the attribute 'sentient' applies'? I think most of us are assuming sentience, and I'm starting to suspect there's a theme along the lines of 'what is sentience, really, anyway?' behind the already heavy braid of lore.

Is this the place to post theories for the latest? Because I have one... and it's kinda a hot take.

[heady wyvern]

Shoot.

[uncut harness]

Writing it up now. TLDR - Artemis, no matter what your choice with her was, found her way into Nada's simulation... in which Korvax Prime lives. If you put her there, that way. If you didn't, via that infected pad in the Nexus that has been with us since roughly the Sentinels launch. And she is pissed. Pissed enough that she restored/joined with the remnant of Korvax Prime, becoming The Abyss, The Voidmother, and/or Keeper of the 'World of Glass'. She has been transmuting all life (or as much as she can) into crystalline form because this will save their data for what she is about to attempt... which is to essentially transmute the physical failure by going to pure energy form... something that can actually go through the black hole.... and follow the humans who became the travelers who became us.... which is the ultimate bow of returning home on every timeline in this thing.

Sorry, but that really IS the TLDR.

Nice nod to ATLANTIS myth in our timeline, too. I suspect that is the 'proof of possibility' this would hang upon in our real world timeline.

The rejected on the moon? They are her children.

She created/saved/restored them.

/fin

Kindly note we are actively pouring souls into that thing at an alarming rate even as I type.

Follow on points now that I'm actively noodling this again....

1. When we last spoke to Artemis in the Nada Prime [5] Simulation, there was a burst of 'kzkkt' energy and we haven't spoken to her since. I believe this was the moment that the remnant of Korvax Prime made contact with her.

2. I believe Artemis and the remnant of Korvax Prime remaining in Nada's simulation joined, becoming 'The Abyss / The Voidmother' which actually IS effectively the ruler of the 'World of Glass'.

3. This means that Nada's prime simluation IS 'The World of Glass'.

4. This also means that all beings of our current experience and timelines have, at one time, been to or were possibly created/rising from it.

5. This also means that in the moment we agree all of these possibilities now exist, the figurative walls of belief have fully collapsed and literally anything is now possible; but, as always (and in typical HG/NMS style), it will depend upon where you stand (no proofs being more than self-evident, a literal pun and irony, also HG/NMS style).

Whew. Ok. I need coffee.

The idea that Nada is, for mere sentimentalism, both creating the space in which they exist and, simultaneously, destroying it... also fits nicely in this theory. (Ok. Forcibly pulling my brain OFF of this now. I swear. Thanks for listening.)

[dusk tusk]

wait, so Korvax used to fly living ships all the time, am i right?

[analog breach]

No but LS and korvax are related

They are entites from same source/home

[spring hawk]

HEAVILY disagree on this one.
IMO the "World of Glass" is basically the Atlas' cache of things that were deleted, died or otherwise destroyed.
The Simulation aboard the Anomaly is, by Nada's words, a simulation of a mini-universe she smuggled out of Korvax Prime before it's destruction.
The World of Glass existed way way WAY before the Korvax's ancestors were ever born

[uncut harness]

I think she has actively warred and won on the world of glass, which is where the corrupted sentinels are coming from... which would track if she is in fact joined with and now effectively as theorized. It will be interesting to find out regardless. o/

[spring hawk]

it does seem like Atlantid has a sort of degree of control over the world of glass, but my point is that there is no way that the world of glass is Nada's simulation

[uncut harness]

There is a way, but it may not be. Time will tell. 🙂 Just sharing my thoughts. Thank you for sharing yours, too.

I have an image, but I do not seem able to post images here. I'll post it in media instead, since it is not an active spoiler, merely a reference that implies... 🙂

The one from the recent expedition is most interesting to me, as it is a reference both to being found as well as to the fact that the finder was a she who was somehow also a 'they'.... >:)

[spring hawk]

it just seems too improbable and disconnected from what we already know about the simulation. But, you're right. Only time will tell.

[uncut harness]

That's the interesting thing about perspective - our perception of links relies heavily on our preferences and biases. I often think the game is poking us about it.

[cerulean brook]

Since launch, there's been the sense that some sort of corruption is creeping into the universe. It started with abandoned buildings, and the disturbing lore from the terminals there; that was even before there was any such thing as a whispering egg or a biological horror. Abandoned systems came along later, using the original internal layout for space stations.

I'm wondering how much of the Abyss/Atlantid/Void Mother stuff was in the Mind of Sean from the beginning.

[dense quartz]

Quite a lot I'd say.
The Abyss update introduced a mission in 2018 that references the dissonance worlds we got in Interceptor update this year.

[icy citrus]

The Abyss has been in game lore since launch

[dense quartz]

[queen crane]

i finished the main storyline for the first time today :) i went with refuse because i got the heebie-jeebies and have a lovely base with my husband in this galaxy

i saw where the story was going from early on, but that didn't diminish it in any way. was really excited the whole time to get to the bottom of it. i'm excited to keep playing this save + also start new saves, because i just know there's going to be a bazillion things i missed lore-wise and it's really fun!

[heady wyvern]

Now that you're past this point, I can safely say that, if you chose to reset, you can return to your bases in Euclid via teleport network.

[quasi acorn]

i mean, i don't think its that deep

its like an old, abandoned supermarket

all things move on

probably something happened in the system that made its inhabitants move out

[quasi acorn]

16/16?16/ Glass GLASS GlASS GlSsassAG;ASSGLA#T^%glsASSglas####$&#GLASS

[fervent cobalt]

does Null still have telamon, or was that what all the body mods were for?

[wild dune]

you mean lore-wise or what?

[haughty finch]

Question, this is my first play through and we are currently on final Artemis quest "The Purge." but before that we are doing the "Atlas path" quest and during travelling we got a communication request from Artemis randomly and he telling us how he feels that he got put into that simulation (Because that's the choice we did with Artemis and we decided to never tell him.)

Did something bug out or why does Artemis suddenly know that he is in a simulation that we put him in? Is it because of the Good Bye message that we sent out through the Halo, warning everyone? Or what happened that Artemis suddenly knows where he is, even though my choices so far all indicated that I'm keeping it a secret from him

[peak shale]

Artemis = Female

[icy citrus]

All NPCs are they/them canonically

No gender