no-mans-sky

[keen ginkgo]

Was really hoping for some sort of high with herbal crunchies

[midnight shell]

Can't die, spin around a bit, kill enemies

[rough relic]

never played EVE eh?

[pallid lake]

I know

[pallid lake]

Bro eve is an unfair example

[willow quiver]

You can turn the auto-lock off though, I fly completely manual in combat

[exotic lynx]

i hoped for jetpack bonus

[midnight shell]

No but if it's the same that doesn't make the nms good

[exotic lynx]

bc it would be neat to have that 5 sec overload each

[pallid lake]

Can we assign it to another key or something

[ashen tapir]

Cant wait to finish my job here and go home and rest

[midnight shell]

If it's worse it still doesn't make the nms space combat good

[exotic lynx]

without having to pop in n out of inventory

[fallen latch]

People fly with auto lock on?

[rough relic]

eve is a microsoft excel spread sheet economy space simulator lol

and its wonderful

[pallid lake]

Eve is a job

[keen ginkgo]

Ohh, no the nutrient ingestor gives different buffs than the food itself

[midnight shell]

I don't think that'd make it better tho

[ashen tapir]

Auto lock on messes you up when you wanna do some real fighter pilot maneuvers on them

[rough relic]

COD kids cant appreciate slow

[willow quiver]

It depends what you think is more fun, I enjoy the challenge of manual space combat

[pallid lake]

Wonderfully insane when i hear corp wars losing thousands of dollars worth of ships and especially that ine corp battle that players couldn't jump into for the amount of wreckage

[ashen tapir]

Say what? What we do?

[keen ginkgo]

I wonder how you guys would compare Avorion's combat

[midnight shell]

Never played cod

[pallid lake]

EYY AVORION FAN!

[rain mortar]

I like this game, and I like all the updates they've put out, but the constant networking issues and desync aren't acceptable at all man, if you're marketing an online game

[ashen tapir]

I have, I wonder what we did to make him bring up cod.

[keen ginkgo]

Haven't played in a bit, but I remember salvage lasers of all things being some of the best weapons, lol

[midnight shell]

He's probably imagining the mlg videos

And thinks I'm asking for that

[storm pebble]

weren't HG devs from CoD?

[rough relic]

99% of the time when people complain about shooting combat or difficulty in a game theres usually a cod or eldenring reference....both games are shit btw

[pallid lake]

It is dude like early to mid game when for some reason you have beef with an npc faction of all things

[clever bramble]

I want to 360 no scope a sentinel from 300u away

[midnight shell]

What's Eldenring got to do with nms 😭

[rain mortar]

I mean, COD sucks these days, but it used to be good. Elden Ring is god tier tho idk what you're talmbout

[willow quiver]

They're good games for what they are, it's just not the only way to make a game and doesn't suit everybody

[keen ginkgo]

Can't we do that?

[clever bramble]

You can??

[keen ginkgo]

Well, not in one hit, I guess

[lime haven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/486583055000272921/978586300825350165/1490004013559185408.JPG

[midnight shell]

He died against the goldhorseguywithabigspear

[rough relic]

ive never played it

[pallid lake]

Dude come on dont lump in Eldenring with Cod, you're comparing cod which is a pile of microtransaction doo doo with Eldenring

[midnight shell]

Buff boltcaster and get combat scope

[midnight shell]

Then why bring it up

[keen ginkgo]

No they said no scope

[rain mortar]

Ye 99% of people I hear that say Elden Ring sucks either never played or died in the intro and turned it off lol

[keen ginkgo]

It would be the uhhhh

[storm pebble]

I think, you guys woke up an intellegence in Gunter 😛

[keen ginkgo]

Blaze javelin

[rough relic]

i played the og demon souls on PS 3 though

[midnight shell]

Mb, gotta recoil control

[keen ginkgo]

that should get buffed

[north fog]

Reminder #other-games

[rain mortar]

They're very different games

[gaunt finch]

Is it possible to get gunter featured in the louvre

[craggy furnace]

So... Update v6.06 did not actually increase number of animated guns to 6. It increased the number of animated gun BARRELS to 12.

6x Phase Beam: 4 tech slots, 6 corvette parts
3x Phase 3x Photon: 8 tech slots, 6 corvette parts
3x Phase 6x Deadeye: 8 tech slots, 9 corvette parts, you have more control of where 6 of your beams fire from.

[keen ginkgo]

I really want to like the blaze javelin but so far it seems not worth using

[pallid lake]

Hmm

[rough relic]

and this is my point, its all subjective

[midnight shell]

I finished it whole, wasn't life-changing but it goes from feeling unfair to feeling fair once you figure out the boss moves

[fallen latch]

Blaze javelin helps me with healer sentinels

[pallid lake]

Well it have an upgrade which makes it stun targets hit with it though

[fallen latch]

And stuns dogs

[pallid lake]

And beeg beasties

[rain mortar]

That's what it's good at, making you feel like you really achieved something when you get past the hurdles

[storm pebble]

neutron cannon

[midnight shell]

I only use boltcaster, most things die in one burst

[empty marlin]

sweet, found my first Bobbitt worm planet

[clever bramble]

I want an ak47 upgrade module pls

[keen ginkgo]

Yes but the charge time makes it feel like it should deal more damage

[pallid lake]

Tru dat

[keen ginkgo]

Neutron cannon outperforms blaze javelin entirely

[rough relic]

if the combats easy turn up the difficulty

[naive mist]

Maybe If someone makes good enough pic of him in gunterland. There is a chance.

[rain mortar]

Well yeah. It's not my fav. game either, but I think it's one of the best

[north fog]

Blaze is only really useful with upgrades

Eventually you’ll be able to 1/2 shot most things, and stun them

[empty marlin]

also have had the game running four hours now with zero crashes now that multiplayer is off

[midnight shell]

And then you have no man's sky, where no gun feels good until you get those sweet boltcaster upgrades

[rough relic]

KCD and KCD2 are my top 2 games but thats just my opinion

[keen ginkgo]

I feel like it should be a precision weapon that could one-shot most enemies

[storm pebble]

Boltacster +lots of dps - evrythigndies from one bust. If toomany corrupted drones are togetehr - neutron cannon to cause Ai confusion as they all try to heal each other

[rain mortar]

Even when I don't like a style of game, you can tell when a game is well crafted and polished, like when they've thought of all the problems and solved them.

[empty marlin]

what game are you talking about

[midnight shell]

See I thought that that's what it was, but then one shot breaks armor, second shot breaks armor again, then third shot may or may not kill them

[pallid lake]

Ey boys i found the long necks from Horizon Zero Dawn in NMS

[rain mortar]

Just games in general, but we were talking about Elden Ring specifically

[midnight shell]

Bolt caster tho, hold down the left click, enemy dies

[rough relic]

Unfortunately i dont want to pay discord to post videos or id show how i take out swarms of sentinels Armored Core style in a minotaur lol

[fallen latch]

My main weapon has the machine gun mode and the shotgun with blaze

[pallid lake]

Blaze Javelin will then live up to its name

[north fog]

Again, reminder that this is the No Man’s Sky channel
Go to #other-games for discussions about other games please

[storm pebble]

Youtube exists,lol

[rain mortar]

KCD2 is great. I haven't played the first one. I tried when it came out but had problems

[empty marlin]

oh gotcha, ty. I knew it had to be off topic from the description 😂

[rough relic]

its very stable now

[rain mortar]

Lol that's awesome

[midnight shell]

It was a no man's sky discussion, unless it's forbidden to mention other games

[keen ginkgo]

I also think there could be a blaze javelin upgrade that maybe makes it take longer to charge, but the projectile explodes on contact

[north fog]

It isn’t, but it’s definitely not a no man’s sky discussion anymore

[empty marlin]

it’s forbidden to even think of anything not no man’s sky in here

[midnight shell]

Just make the javelin ignore armor

[keen ginkgo]

I am partial to explosions tbh

[rough relic]

i do have a yt channel, i dont do anything with it mostly but its there lol

[pallid lake]

Kzzzzt we talked about kzzzzt and we got kzzzzttt

[rain mortar]

You have to pay to post videos now?

[rough relic]

yea you need nitro to upload anything over 10mb

[midnight shell]

I think he doesn't know that you can post longer videos on boosted servers

[north fog]

There’s always been a size limit on videos, which only allows for short videos to be posted

[rain mortar]

nah it depends on the server. Someone just needs to boost it

[keen ginkgo]

Or very low quality videos

[storm pebble]

I'd as for opposite - to have automatic charge, gatling gun style. Problem with javeling charge is that gun ais animated dring charage and aim is broken. Plus shot itself is instant but charge and reaction to release isn't instant, which causes cognitive problem with aiming

[rough relic]

let me find some sentinels and well find out lol

[rain mortar]

It just takes like a couple people to boost it and you're good

[north fog]

100mb
Server is boosted enough to allow that

[keen ginkgo]

But I feel like its themed like a sniper rifle, not a gatling gun

[storm pebble]

sniper laser, but hold =to-charge breaks aim

[rain mortar]

I mean, as long as you're not posting 4k high bitrate HDR clips lol

[midnight shell]

I was hoping to be able to make it like a one shot one kill weapon, but nope

[midnight shell]

Shoulda been me

[storm pebble]

with rifle you would lead target, but javelin is 'laser", Problem is while you charge you can't lead

[rain mortar]

Most the popular servers are gonna be boosted just by virtue of the amount of people participating, or by the mods

[keen ginkgo]

Eh, id still be fine if it were more one-shot capable

[fallen latch]

50 second videos....and its 51Mb..let me see if I can find longer

[storm pebble]

It leads_visually_ but in fact it doesn't, it discharges at spot you pointed at before you released mouse, not at point where you aimed when aser shot went out

Which is about 0.2 sec difference

So for sniping it's awful

[ruby beacon]

i got this 470mb vid

[keen ginkgo]

Hmm, ill have to test it tomorrow to see if I notice

[ruby beacon]

lemme see if i can upload it fast..

[keen ginkgo]

I remember being okay at hitting stuff with it, but it didnt deal damage worth the charge time and cost to recharge the thing

[fallen latch]

112 Mb and its 1:50 long

[storm pebble]

For sort range it indeed unnoticieably, but if you want to take out fmobile flier, it kind meh.. and thenyou have charge again 😛

[south bolt]

A good test is to try to post a large file.

[midnight shell]

Ignores enemy armor + stays where fired for 1s doing extra dmg

[ruby beacon]

probably bcs i have nitro

[south bolt]

Nitro boosts the max file size to 500 MB

[keen ginkgo]

I mean... also its a laser so I dont think i try to lead with it

[fallen latch]

I dont have nitro

[ruby beacon]

i can post up to 500mb

[keen ginkgo]

Yk what ill snipe a bird creature tomorrow

[storm pebble]

But we don't haearmor in nms

[keen ginkgo]

Enemies do

[fallen latch]

Trying to watch it but it keeps stopping for me

[ruby beacon]

Probably still processing or smth

[keen ginkgo]

Ooh! Maybe have the javelin have a shorter "functional" charge time, but you can hold it longer to deal extra damage

[storm pebble]

walkersand minotaurs. Which is ablative for walker. IT's not very effective to use at them <.<

[keen ginkgo]

Combat sentinels have armor too

[storm pebble]

and walker alway jumps toward you

[exotic lynx]

more than enough to post all of shrek movies in one file

[storm pebble]

they have abative panel which breaks off from boltcaster shot

[midnight shell]

I just lob a few mining nades at them

[storm pebble]

and it costs lots of hp to them to lose one

[clever bramble]

I feel like I’m in my experimental phase

[fallen latch]

Looks like a turtle

[clever bramble]

Slowest ship in the galaxy

[keen ginkgo]

Ive seen a corvette that literally was a turtle with an island on its back

Well, a post of it

[fallen latch]

Cool

[keen ginkgo]

Id love to see more of those types in person

[fallen latch]

Must've been a lion turtle

[clever bramble]

Less turtle more tortle

[ruby beacon]

Siiiiickkkk

[clever bramble]

Ty

I’m trying to reach your level

[ruby beacon]

🙏

[clever bramble]

I do like how the windows look flipped think that’s gonna be my new thing

[keen ginkgo]

I keep reaching a half-thought that I was gonna say but it cannot fully form

[clever bramble]

Take your time

I’ll be here when you find it

[keen ginkgo]

Nah, its gone

[clever bramble]

[nocturne jasper]

There is something deeply hilarious about your frigates jumping into a fight between you and one pilot.

[willow quiver]

Have to assert dominance

[keen ginkgo]

But I wanna know a different thing, which is whether anyone else has noticed how quickly some settlements can manufacture stuff

[storm pebble]

They say they fixed it. Now corvette constantly hovers exactly at height to trap player in base and itself..

[keen ginkgo]

My third settlement seems to make things way faster than either my first or second even though its way less developed

[fallen latch]

I do kinda wish the freighters were drivable

[nocturne jasper]

Since being able to space walk freely, I took a look at the scale side by side with ships.

The gun of a frigate is larger than the starting ship.

[keen ginkgo]

Take the issues with corvettes and scale them up about 3000 times

[desert fiber]

aurix do you ever sleep...

i always see you here 😭

[clever bramble]

Goated sweatshop

[keen ginkgo]

Im technically about to

[storm pebble]

Yeah, freighter is like 4 km long..

[desert fiber]

ahhh

[fallen latch]

If it ever had drivable freighters, have the space combat like rebel galaxy

[storm pebble]

Dreadnaughtis 10-12 km long?

[keen ginkgo]

Don't worry this happens with literally every game I hyperfixate on

[lime haven]

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[desert fiber]

no i get it, (autist diagnosed 😭 )

[keen ginkgo]

What's funny is that the corvette update dragged me from my previous hyperfixation on ksp

[nocturne jasper]

Corvettes seem to have awoken the train enthusiast in many players.

[keen ginkgo]

I put off playing it bc I knew it would happen, then I was like "okay I'll do the expedition" and now I havent played ksp in a month

[clever bramble]

I like trains

[fallen latch]

Its right there, freighter do fight back and do damage (albeit, minimal but still) ..but its right there

[clever bramble]

Nvm can’t see shit in that

[keen ginkgo]

You just made me want to make various nms ships in avorion, since thats the only space game I can think of with the range of scale to pull it off

[terse crater]

Is game doesn't have large or city like environment ? Sorry I'm new, just bought the game today

[rough relic]

🙁 the walker didnt spawn lol

[fallen latch]

No unfortunately

But you can make the city yourself

[prime spoke]

Its awoken my submarine enthusiast

[smoky jasper]

4x supercharged neutron cannon is wild, melts walkers before their health bar can spawn

[fallen latch]

Can't space engineers do that too?

[willow quiver]

Neutron cannon in general is pretty wild

[prime spoke]

Gambling sub

I need to actually finish Guppy. By finish I mean I need to do interior

[keen ginkgo]

...I've seen the videos with really big ships. I dont think so, lol

Nms freighters are massive

[wheat grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1010594416517464204/1422261900049121513/No_Mans_Sky_20250928141508.jpg?ex=68dcb0dd&is=68db5f5d&hm=56dfe2e4ed0ad9f610cb0724427e559ea9c20773a4f16033a229314a4bacd3e5&

[nocturne jasper]

City sized ships

[keen ginkgo]

The dang things are literally the size of a city

[fallen latch]

True

[nocturne jasper]

damn straight

[prime spoke]

Very nice

[keen ginkgo]

And the default scale of a block piece in avorion is 10 cubic meters, lol

[prime spoke]

I wanna try recreate the Ra'nodare carrier warbird from STO in NMS

[rough relic]

ok lets see if it posts

[wheat grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/215940434516639745/1422262029833469972/No_Mans_Sky_20250930003801.jpg?ex=68dcb0fc&is=68db5f7c&hm=0ea416a2fff3272a0460e3f43e7d29bea02bc5c9413ba795bacd347f21015fa7&

[fallen latch]

Why....why can't it have a melee attack??

[gaunt finch]

No I mean getting a post by gunter in the louvre by giving it 5 hearts

[rough relic]

its got a flame thrower

[daring fossil]

Returning player after 11 months....OMG! Corvette- drops mic 🎤 lol

[prime spoke]

Sometimes I forget the scale of pirate dreadnoughts

[winter wren]

flamethroweron a multitool would be awesome

[prime spoke]

You can see my tiny sub bottom right

[fallen latch]

........maybe freighters are the size of continents

Or at least states

[keen ginkgo]

Im still pretty sure that theyre smaller than the largest of the capital type freighters

[viscid crane]

no man sky

[keen ginkgo]

I want a measuring tool now to see how long freighters are, lol

[fallen latch]

I got the sentinel capital ship as a freighter, except it is much longer

[prime spoke]

Never run out of Ammo in the mech

(Volume warning, headphone users beware)

[rough relic]

sentinel dreadnought?

[keen ginkgo]

Corvette when autopilot from station

[fallen latch]

No

[keen ginkgo]

Yeah that would be the type of freighter you have

[random vigil]

I found a portal, and I have the glyphs. I'm looking up stuff (exotic ships/weapons) do you have to beat the game (PURGE) before you do this stuff??

[rough relic]

i had to reload right before i started recording

[clever tendon]

my settlement is finally making more money than it is spending🔥🔥

[runic pumice]

uss entente nimitz class dreadnaught?

[fallen latch]

Oh wait, my mind went straight to pirate dreadnought

[storm pebble]

why people keep dropping into inventory some kind of broken eggs? SOmeone passed my settelement and dropped 4 broken item. it says egg type, got egg icon but tecbroken technology description

[prime spoke]

Save editing is fun

Tactical nuclear bomb

One hit capital ships

[fallen latch]

Jesus christ

[clever tendon]

☠️

[prime spoke]

I will reach 1 million soon

[wheat grove]

Hmm probably not, a number of them thought its the nova class

[prime spoke]

It does like 1,024,000 damage if I set power to weapons

[wheat grove]

But i can see a bit of resemblance

[runic pumice]

82371 was the entente.

[empty marlin]

8675309

wait that was off-topic, sorry

[fallen latch]

But yeah, as you can see.....the sentinel capital ship is just so small compared to mine

[prime spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/212051634790858754/1417292043734224937/2025-09-16_00-31-27.mp4?ex=68dc6893&is=68db1713&hm=928b5590f4d144d0667c5d6d63f34d7d179c8d0413a3c0ee893eb1978a924f64&

[clever tendon]

The one tap is wild

[prime spoke]

Quick little tap

[wheat grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263077116266811463/1415739091026448424/No_Mans_Sky_20250912000551.jpg?ex=68dcb106&is=68db5f86&hm=a4d844459763558f8a9316c98e82500e37d79a9b3186b0d3cfdf643babf32c72&

[random vigil]

I found a portal, and I have the glyphs. I'm looking up stuff (exotic ships/weapons) do you have to beat the game (PURGE) before you do this stuff??

I must be doing something wrong. I use the glyphs, but im not seeing the multi-tools or anything. Maybe its random.

[smoky jasper]

are you in the correct galaxy

[cerulean moat]

looks like a faisar ship. I love it

[rough relic]

oops

[hardy tendon]

Perhaps a Super kinda galaxy?

[daring fossil]

Can someone remind me of the etiquette for vc in discord? Can you just jump in , go on silent and watch someone's stream or is it dont join unless invited?

[rough relic]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[daring fossil]

Well ok lol

[halcyon tide]

You can join and watch the stream channels if you want

Lfg channels are for playing with people

[storm pebble]

Ok, weird.. how come I have two Roamers? OOn two different planets?

[daring fossil]

Im still flapping around trying to remember the controls after an 11 month break 😆. No way Im ready for that type of action yet 😬. But ty 😁

[halcyon tide]

How do you know it's on both planets

It's supposed to just teleport

[storm pebble]

Cause it's no on the geobay pad

one is parked 500m away from base near minign spot without geobay, other is on other planet than me in system where my freighter is

[queen arch]

You can only have one copy of each exocraft in each system

[storm pebble]

and geobay is near me

[queen arch]

When you reach a base with one of your geobays, it will summon the exocraft on top of it passively

[north fog]

You can only have one copy of each exocraft.

[queen arch]

Yes, but they kinda follow you through each system, though they are the same exocraft

[random vigil]

Well, people have built bases all over these multi tool locations x-x

[storm pebble]

yeah, here it doesn't. But there might be issue that's a shadowed planet discovered by me during exedition?

[queen arch]

You could report them using the quick menu if they are obstructing them

[north fog]

True, but it’s still only one copy for you that exists through the entire universe

[storm pebble]

geobay exists , but it doen't pop on it, it stays where I eft it

[keen ginkgo]

Wow I have gotten reliant on the exocraft summoning suit tech

I was about to say "just summon it by you" before I remembered its an endgame tech

[queen arch]

yes, once an exocraft has been summoned in the system, geobays won't passively summon them without manual interaction

[storm pebble]

they are single copy becuase there is ony one data record. But seems locationsofcraft is defined per system?

[queen arch]

at least ime

[queen arch]

pretty much what I was trying to explain, ye

but even then I think it's forgotten and they just spawn on the geobay when you arrive at the other system, never put enough thought into it

[storm pebble]

I know data stucture of save. THing is is weird because it may summon craft passively if it was on other planet but sometimes it doesn't. Freighter allows pop them anywahere without geobay

Well, with appropriate room

[flat furnace]

looking for some tips on what stuff to do BEFORE ending the expedition

[halcyon tide]

Sell everything that you aren't bringing back

[flat furnace]

you get to keep $$?

[halcyon tide]

Might as well make a few more units

Yeah currencies transfer

[flat furnace]

cool beans. what about corvette parts?

[halcyon tide]

Idk about those

[empty marlin]

cool, just randomly lost like 450 runaway fungus because why not

runaway mould*

[flat furnace]

also, hatch the egg before or after ending?

[empty marlin]

yes

[rough relic]

gn Entity-Gamers gonna pop on a lecture by Dr Michael Sugrue and head to bed

[flat furnace]

unhelpful

[halcyon tide]

I think you get one in your main save from the quicksilver guy

[flat furnace]

cool beans

[empty marlin]

gn

eggs or beans?

[flat furnace]

neither. I require both warm

[halcyon tide]

Beans

[rough relic]

yes

[halcyon tide]

[empty marlin]

ty

[flat furnace]

ok. anyone know if you keep corvett parts in the corvette parts stash?

[empty marlin]

PSA: always empty your portable refiner before quitting to mode select

because sometimes the game keeps things, and sometimes it doesn't. The ways of the dev are beyond mortal comprehension

[flat furnace]

can you transfer multitools to main save?

[jovial solar]

implying devs have total control over their creation

[stark heath]

As someone who just likes building and making my own stuff in games, this game has payed its price by just having good sandbox

[empty marlin]

It's code, not gameomancy. They have as much control as they have skill and testing

[tawny kernel]

Didn't know but I not take a risk so, I transfer all by fill and take in that small cross expedition storage

[storm pebble]

Nah, I actuallt know reason. And seems my reports helped to mostly fix thecorvette refiners . They worked ike portable, so refiner's content defined by its coordiantes. If you put two refiners in same spot, they will ahve same contnet

[empty marlin]

aaah, interesting, thank you

For whatever reason, the newest patch hasn't dropped for me yet

[storm pebble]

Now refiner or content disappearing. that's problem of how they handle refiner by constantly updating what is inside. Same with farms. ITs essentially would me miracle of it not to disappear on save\load. When you go out of range, data is 'saved" but without values

[random vigil]

So, to use the glyphs correctly, I have to first find the correct galaxy, find a stargate and use said glyphs to get to where I want to go.

I've been at this for hours lol. Obviously I'm stupid.

[storm pebble]

It's really WRONG wayt o code it like that. Usually stations like this are coded like a stoarge with few slots and timestamp when wrok was started and when it's done. No background counting

[empty marlin]

even constantly updating is fine, but storing that data by location is insane

makes our corvettes like a mesh bag of constantly-updating pebbles rather than one object

[storm pebble]

I fixed that. Before fix we could swap refiner content on landing pads,lol

Similar way we could swap corvettes,lol

[empty marlin]

crazy

[storm pebble]

That's legacy code. Portable refiner was once the ONLY refiner in game, and teir identifier was location (sameas beacon)

[empty marlin]

I'm really impressed with what they've done with this game, but it seems like an undertale type of story, where it miraculously works, but if you decompile it, the entire game is one labyrinthine switch statement

I think I'm mixing two different surprising-decompilation stories, but still, same kind of code quality

yea

especially when you use a changing value as the primary identifier of an object lol

[storm pebble]

Well, guess how refiner dupe works? 😛

double deletion of object stored n same location 😛

[empty marlin]

I feel like they should hire at least one person with a CS degree

just an opinion :p

[storm pebble]

Pretty sure they had, provided WHO are founders and original team, but the compilers and stuff changed alot since 90s.

Plus game mutated for single player where it didn't matter to multiplayer

[empty marlin]

We're getting off-topic, but things like identifying things by their location rather than by a UUID and then recording the location in a map are basic computer science mistakes, would be the same in COBOL or Swift, nothing to do with compiler changes

[storm pebble]

I 'm debating that itntentional in-joke. Provided NMS world supposed to be a simulation

we have 2^64 worlds. Only 2^48 worlds can be portaled to

[little halo]

Yeah, I think people are pretending or falsely believing they know more than they do

Also, correlation <> causation

[snow plume]

some of the pictures in the #nms-photomode-gallery are insane. How do people get their graphics that good?

im on ps5 and the graphics are good but not THAT good

[empty marlin]

PS5 isn't the only/best platform

[storm pebble]

In software? Depends how deep you go

Too deterministic system

[snow plume]

no ik that

i meant like how do people get the graphics like that in general? Like is it possible on ps5

[little halo]

... no, it doesn't depend how deep you go. Correlation is never identical to causation. You might arrive at the same conclusion for different reasons, though

[jovial solar]

I'd recommend being mindful of spoilers in chat

[empty marlin]

oh, that idk, but probably not. I'm guessing it's people on PCs with very good GPUs

[storm pebble]

Provded most of the glitches are consistemnt between PS5, PC and Nintendo, it's not random gitches or something.. that's architectural bugs\eror in code's logic

[little halo]

That's the definition of glitches. No glitches are random

[empty marlin]

if the mods show up, they're going to have a prolapse for how off-topic y'all are getting

[little halo]

No, this is about claims about the NMS engine

[storm pebble]

Glitches can be result of UB, so will appear on one platfrom only. Like PS bugs in Fallout New Vegas. Which dont' appear on PC.

[little halo]

Yes, and aren't random

[empty marlin]

It's not; at this point, it's about the nature of software bugs

but shrug I personally don't care, just got muted for it for being off-topic for 3 1-2 sentence messages earlier

[storm pebble]

Random stuff is rare. It's non-deterministic stuff like unitializaed memory just some events that happen at same time once in blue moon. otherwise even UB is not random, it's just doesn't have documentation

[empty marlin]

At risk of getting myself muted for participating in something I warned y'all about, @storm pebble is right. This is why Mario speedrunners do code insertion bugs, because a "bug" is just imprecise coding; once it's written, its nature is precise, and can be reliably used to use certain kinds of errors to actually input code and get the game to jump to it to skip portions of it

There is nothing random about a bug, only random circumstances a bug can be exposed to

[little halo]

We agree about that. There's no such thing as random. All glitches are based on a combination of factors that are deterministic

[storm pebble]

Speaking of random. Someone knows how RNG is seeded in game? Because for me, on 3 different saves salvage containers in expedition dropped exactly same stuff, in same order. Looks like seed was same or they hardcoded drops?

[jovial solar]

same location gives same seed which produces the same results

[empty marlin]

I think we all share one seed, don't we?

[storm pebble]

Well, locations beside first planet (which I spipped) wasn't same. Unless it counts as planet as location

[little halo]

Anyway, my main point was "I submitted a bug report with my thoughts on the cause, and that bug was later fixed" <> "HG read my bug report, I was right about it, they believed me, they implemented what I said, and therefore I fixed the bug "

[empty marlin]

ah, true, but neither of us asked whether they responded and confirmed, which they could have, and I just assumed they had, whereas you just assumed they hadn't

[storm pebble]

or seed is steamID, ike some ooother openWorld game I know

[jovial solar]

I had this base on one planet, it had a damaged machinery nearby, when I opened it I got S class mining beam module

Each time I was opening the same machine, I would get the same item from it

[little halo]

Most things in NMS are seeded based on system ID, location of thing in system, or location of player in system

[empty marlin]

I think we should be allowed one message.. what game?

[jovial solar]

or another less anegdotical example, how staff assembly used to work

[little halo]

That was the system, right?

[jovial solar]

head module used + location of the assembly terminal on planet produced a seed

which dictated stats, class, colours

[empty marlin]

interesting

[little halo]

Ah

[storm pebble]

7Days-to-die alpha verison before A16. Loot there was pure RNg, but seed was based on player and location. So yeah, same location was likely give same loot over and over. Then they made progress modifiers to loot

[empty marlin]

oh interesting, ty

[little halo]

Derelict freighters are seeded by system, so any derelict in that system is exactly the same

Multitool cabinets are location of the cabinet, I think

I can't remember what was location of the player, but I think there is one

[storm pebble]

Makes sense. Station and whole space in system are special locations, then planets have own locations +planet coordinates

And that's why we weer losing items when exiting station 😛

[little halo]

We'd need monkeyman for that probably, he probably knows how everything related to planet location works

[empty marlin]

what about tweeter though

[storm pebble]

I want source code of glyph coords decorder. So I could pair it with screen cap library and decode glyphs in overlay app <.<

[empty marlin]

oh that makes so much sense. Let's have emergency warp be in a submenu

[little halo]

The formula is out there somewhere. I just don't remember where

[empty marlin]

hey siri define emergency

[little halo]

You can hotkey it

[empty marlin]

that's good to know, thank you

[storm pebble]

Provided emergency thingy expodes, they thought it's a destructive action 😛

[little halo]

I always hotkey camera, third person camera toggle, summon Nexus Anomaly, and stand up from corvette piloting

[jovial solar]

dunno what you mean by "glyph decoder", there's this infographic: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/212051634790858754/1376208869776166995/RDT_20220709_2307171486476997264151271.jpg?ex=68dc9523&is=68db43a3&hm=09d7ec57454a63fc7b263667de198402f61000231edfe5f9860a1b89b7974e55&=&format=webp&width=1289&height=967

[storm pebble]

saves that

[tribal condor]

Question

[little halo]

That's what I was thinking of, thanks

[tribal condor]

There is a picture I found

Of someone with a really cool drip, But somehow they have the bottom part of the pancho removed?

And it just seems bigger in general?

[little halo]

Do you have the picture?

Put it in #nms-media and link the message here

[tribal condor]

Sent it

[storm pebble]

111000011111 hmm...

[little halo]

Maybe the wanderer cloak I think it is called?

[tribal condor]

I have that on

But it has the wierd tan thing underneath the top part of it

[storm pebble]

there is this: https://nmsportals.github.io/ nI think it's somewhere in pins

[little halo]

Ah that is a good outfit. Is it the autophage cloak?

[empty marlin]

a real shame they chose inertialess spaceflight tbh

but it's probably more fun for more people the way it is

[tribal condor]

Okay, I figured it out

It was called the Returner's drape

[storm pebble]

Tbh the only inertial flysim i ever knew as original 3 elites XD

More annoying is that there is no cruise control on ship in atmosphere for some reason

[empty marlin]

my go-to space game for the loooongest time was Escape Velocity: Nova. 2D, but (aside from one alien race's ships) newtonian physics, so that's what I expect when I see space lol

[little halo]

Winder has a true inertia mod, but I see you're on Mac

The flight control override upgrade on the Nexus Anomaly makes it more drifty

[empty marlin]

oo, good to know, ty

I'm not really much for mods, just makes it hard to compare experiences imo

[little halo]

Mac can't mod anyway 🙁

[empty marlin]

that's weird

[storm pebble]

And very fisrt sapec trader for me somehow wasn't Elite but Space Nomad <.< Where you start wth 3 bars of chocolate and somehow everyone alien want them XD

[little halo]

The file structure is there, but they removed the bit that looks for mods. My only guess is Apple asked them to

[empty marlin]

idk, lots of mac games have mods, and have forever

iOS, sure

[little halo]

PC: Is there a mod?
Mac: //Is there a mod?

Not really, but kind of

[storm pebble]

yeah, oly probem cna be if mods are "true code". Like dll injection. Hard to do that on draconian systems 😛

[empty marlin]

yea, it's not Apple's fault. No Man's Sky isn't even on the App Store. I hadn't checked, got it through Steam like a sane person

[empty marlin]

No, even that's allowed on Mac

Pretty much every Adobe product does it

[storm pebble]

It is just harder to d, needs own solution.

[empty marlin]

getting off-topic again, but in a lot of ways, easier. Objective-C makes dynamic loading extremely easy and seamless, and Swift runs on the same runtime

[storm pebble]

And if game was in C++ like most)? 😛

[empty marlin]

then that would explain the rock-solid stability of the game 🙃

[river phoenix]

They announced that it would be coming to the apple app store (and also to iPad) but never released either

[little halo]

Speaking of mods: of course my galactic trade terminal on Nexus mod (which I think should be a vanilla feature) has half the downloads of my all exocraft slots supercharged mod (which I think is stupid). People are weird

[storm pebble]

Objective-C and LUA are go-to for mods, with C# added lately, heh

[little halo]

I heard NMS was going to have a Java version like Minecraft /s

[storm pebble]

gaactic trade terminal mod? For corvette?

[empty marlin]

makes sense; all slots supercharged sounds like a cheat code, which people love

[little halo]

Nexus Anomaly. I have one to add it to corvette too

[empty marlin]

but it's like editing a save to give your healer 999 strength and your tank 999 int/wis. Cool for about a second until you realize now all the characters are the same

all slots supercharged means the same thing as no slots supercharged

[little halo]

And it's just not necessary

[storm pebble]

Aaah.. saw thesefew days ago. Debated if I want one

[little halo]

Honestly, I don't like it now. Putting it all in the mission terminal is sloppy. I'm going to make decorations for each function instead, but now I have to leave that version up

[storm pebble]

I wonder if all SC slots case enemies to buff up 😛

[little halo]

'he was so focused on if he could that he never stopped to think if he should'

[little halo]

I've never quite understood the scaling formula. I don't recall seeing any settings about it in the files

[empty marlin]

...devs are confused about what "optional" means

"Phase 4 Complete. [Complete optional objective to receive reward]"

[little halo]

You don't have to do it for the full expedition completion rewards

That fits "optional"

[empty marlin]

barely

I don't feel like it's what's normal to expect. One would think they would get a phase reward regardless of an optional milestone

I mean it's fine, I'll attempt again to complete it, but the optional milestone is the one that involves turning on quad-hourly crashes

[little halo]

Don't you get the phase rewards without it?

[jovial solar]

what are you on about

[empty marlin]

no, that's what I was complaining about lol

[jovial solar]

I did the exped without optional milestones and got the phase rewards

[empty marlin]

but I was wrong

kek

[little halo]

Because if not, you don't get expedition completion rewards either, and that's stupid

[empty marlin]

thank you guys for making me notice 😂

[little halo]

Hehe cool

I was confused

[empty marlin]

I misclicked and thought I collected the milestone reward, but had clicked the phase reward and not collected the milestone reward yet

[little halo]

I have seen people bitch about not getting the milestone rewards without doing it and how that's not "optional", and I thought that's what you were saying

[empty marlin]

oh, no, I'm totally with you on that

I feel like I can deal without assorted cakes and some currency I don't even understand yet to avoid the high blood pressure of uncontrollable crashing lol

[storm pebble]

cakes give money for flora scan, iirc

[grand oar]

Are you talking about something in phase five? I haven’t done that one yet, that will be today at some point.

[storm pebble]

cupcakes are mining?

[little halo]

Just do a restore point save then sit outside the Nexus Anomaly until you get an autosave too, then turn on multiplayer and go in. Sit on someone's corvette until they take off

Maybe dance some

[jovial solar]

!bestnoms

[little halo]

Cupcakes are life

[jovial solar]

damnit private command

[empty marlin]

well

[storm pebble]

I mena with ingestor

[jovial solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096838983155200131/1340342541509464166/food_bonuses_NMS.JPG?ex=68dc9e84&is=68db4d04&hm=8d81813a46402e63346d27644d6b906640e9b441fd465fe1d8e02939ed81bd4d&=&format=webp

[empty marlin]

I don't think it works from the anomaly, planning on trying from a rendezvous station when I get everything else done

[little halo]

No clue, I don't play enough anymore to remember food stuff

[storm pebble]

chocolate fancy - shield

[little halo]

I did it from the Anomaly

[storm pebble]

wait, where is donut

[empty marlin]

I tried from the anomaly earlier, and when the ship owner took off, it acted like we were warping for like 4-5 minutes, then I was magically in the pilot's seat of my corvette in the system I entered the anomaly from

[little halo]

Oh maybe a bug since I did it a couple of weeks ago

[naive mist]

Can u still use weapons on anomaly while in corvette ?

[empty marlin]

honestly probably just a bug that wouldn't even repeat if I tried it again

[little halo]

I'm sure there will soon be some weird exploit that comes out where someone kills someone in permadeath from their corvette in the Nexus Anomaly, but it seems safe so far

[naive mist]

Then reminder to turn off pvp on anomaly

[empty marlin]

PS: these expedition rewards are really bizarrely balanced 😂 3 useful non-weapons modules, 50,000 pieces of cowling

[storm pebble]

Chocolat fancy is 43% sheld too, but not in that list. I think it's easier to make than getting eldritch horror entrails

[empty marlin]

like another hab would be cool, I'm out of ship to put cowling on two phases ago

[little halo]

I like the really weird rewards that are useless, just for flavor, like sometimes they give you hexite or something similar

[empty marlin]

hehe

[storm pebble]

Apparently trail tech is useful?

[naive mist]

Heard rumors that its already hapend few times

[ruby beacon]

surrounding the polo figurine, yes

[little halo]

I hope not, but I have a few ideas on how to try that I won't try 😄

Trail tech gives an adjacency bonus to Polo

[ruby beacon]

more trouble than its worth tbh

[empty marlin]

kek, "poli" is a suspicious autocomplete

[little halo]

I can't think of anything suspicious that uses that spelling though

[ruby beacon]

i and o is next to each other 😭

[empty marlin]

oh okay, don't worry about it, then

[little halo]

Oh, politics

[naive mist]

Police

[empty marlin]

there is something, but someone of that particular brain damage would know it right away and I don't care to promote it

[little halo]

Swipe keyboard on phone

[ruby beacon]

Never ttired swipe tbh

[little halo]

I know a different spelling, but not that one

[ruby beacon]

I just used it

[icy rivet]

Top o' the mornin' to ya, all.

[little halo]

It's @_+$$$ amazing

[ruby beacon]

How do you do spaces ?

[empty marlin]

yea, that's not what I mean. What I was thinking of involves over the counter medications

[ruby beacon]

Like just stop sweeping ?

i meant swiping

[empty marlin]

I've been occasionally using swipe keyboard since it was a paid product 😤

[little halo]

I HATE using someone else's phone without swipe

Anyway OT

[icy rivet]

Yeah, no swiping

Wait, Dora?

[ruby beacon]

[little halo]

Dora the Scientific, if you look at the files

[empty marlin]

no it's definitely on topic; I'm using my android phone as a bluetooth keyboard so I can talk in No Man's Sky™ with swipe keyboard

😇

[little halo]

Sam Porter is a dropship

[icy rivet]

Also on topic, that "fix" for not having terminals in my autophage settlement didn't work, and also made my save point disappear (but still be there somehow). Sigh.

[smoky jasper]

nice been farming sentinel pillars for royals and scooped a s class. still wanna find a white one though

[icy rivet]

That's the closest you'll get, but it's gorgeous. I have the same.

Or is that blue?

It looks gray

[little halo]

That's blue

[icy rivet]

!?

[little halo]

There's a white one I thought

[smoky jasper]

its blue and gold, i have an exotic ship in the same colors which is kinda cool

[ruby beacon]

its destiny

[little halo]

Wait was that a meme reference?

[icy rivet]

Like this?

[jovial solar]

if you found one pillar that spawns a royal MT, you can save reload on other planets and come back to that pillar

To see a new model / design

[smoky jasper]

yeah ill find one eventually

[little halo]

Oh color is based on load location?

[jovial solar]

Which in case of royals will be just changes to colour

Well it's the same mechanic as swapping active MT pool for regular cabinets

[little halo]

It's weird how inconsistent they are with seeding. Maybe it's intentional?

[jovial solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/212051634790858754/919982844539981834/Touch-of-the-dance-2021.png?ex=68dca80a&is=68db568a&hm=82f1c024164dddf80bac37246916e9e8e080eae272d56c0a0a07a6fafdf8886a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=304

this mechanic but applied to sentinel pillars

Or harmonic camps, those can have actually 2 models

[little halo]

Yeah I was aware of that one. Interesting

[jovial solar]

lol not even HG knows what they do sometimes

[lime haven]

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[jovial solar]

note how they fixed harmonic camps by adding entity toggle "is sentinel tool = true"

[icy rivet]

Uh, really? What was broken?

[jovial solar]

Harmonic Camps spawned regular MTs instead of Sentinel ones

[empty marlin]

I want to know who decided the default ship control should be that bizarre "tethered" garbage, who approved it, and who let it through review at each patch and release

[icy rivet]

What kinda spaghetti code do they have going on there at this point?

[little halo]

I need to ask mm for that comment in the debug release that was like "we don't know why, but don't set this to false or the game crashes"

[icy rivet]

lol

[little halo]

15+ years of spaghetti code with fixes and tons of new features shoved in. It's got to be a mess

[empty marlin]

okay wtheck

[little halo]

I honestly feel bad for junior devs first looking at the code

[empty marlin]

I keep warping to where it says the expedition rendezvous is, getting out of my ship, going all the way to the thingy, not having an option to sign, going back to my ship, opening the map, and now there's a different path

[jovial solar]

you sure you're actully reching the RV systems?

consult the pinned messages in #nms-expedition channel

[queen arch]

I always thought that they meant to implement individual pools per planet, but it just stopped updating when you move between planets and they just said screw it thats how it works

[little halo]

Save and reload

[jovial solar]

there you will find names and addresses of RV systems

[storm pebble]

gotta love when character fails to plug cable into socket,lol

"Get out of that vacc suit and go home!"

[empty marlin]

I'm not; I'm doing it the same way I have for phases 1 through 4, but at this point it's unsurprising that doing it the same way for the same reason just doesn't work randomly in the middle

[empty marlin]

will try

[south bolt]

I have adopted a single-celled organism.

[jovial solar]

... what

No, the scan event targets a specific object to add the custom interaction

[storm pebble]

Funny thing, if that happens and if that was an electrical appliace, cable s attached to it will get power.. not the device itself

[little halo]

One giant Gek-shaped cell?

[jovial solar]

It will only appear on the selected space station cores, not any space station cores

[south bolt]

it's a reference to a cat gif

I should probably give him an actual name.

[little halo]

I am unfamiliar with the interwebs, please enlighten me

[empty marlin]

cats eat gek that are small enough

[north verge]

i get it

[storm pebble]

I want companion cube.. but i only get paralelepipeds

[south bolt]

It's a gif of a kitten trying to learn how to roll over, with the caption
"His name is shithead, and he is a single-celled organism"

[little halo]

Thanks

[empty marlin]

sadly, I don't think portal actually became a classic 😔 The only people under 30 that have played it seem to be streamers with unc viewers that requested it

[south bolt]

I think this name is better. He looks like a teddy bear.

[little halo]

In 50 years, people will reference Portal, and NMS, but not really because I'm just saying that to keep it on topic. Ok maybe actually

[empty marlin]

ty

[little halo]

"The cake is a lie" will live in culture, along with "16"

[paper herald]

did they fix the refinery glitch

[naive mist]

Which one

xd

[empty marlin]

been too busy with the expedition to get to explore the lore, so so far I'm operating on the assumption that 16 is the korvax/autophage data bus width

[icy rivet]

I'd put money on "no" either way.

[paper herald]

nvm. i just duplicated 40mil worth of stuff. it's still working :-)

[little halo]

People think "fixed a bug with refiners losing inventory" == "fixed all bugs with refiners losing inventory". Will never happen

[naive mist]

Cold

[empty marlin]

loool my corvette exit shortcut only works on the passenger side window; driver's side window is not confused about its identity

[little halo]

The world may never know

[empty marlin]

tbf I just spoiled it for you

[paper herald]

i just cant duplicate warp cells :c

[empty marlin]

saving and reloading worked. Thank you for helping me limit my warp fuel waste to 40% lol

[little halo]

Whaaaaat, but I was waiting for the expansion DLC with horse armor and the story line about autophage bus width

[empty marlin]

snekball armor

[icy rivet]

Horse armor ftw

[naive mist]

will be a lootbox reward

0.00016% dropchance

[jovial solar]

dont forget more early access goodies from expeditions /s

[little halo]

As long as I get the Gek Peacemaker dance emote

[empty marlin]

expedition milestone overall summary (applicable to 80% of milestones): bolt unnecessary amounts of modules to your already-crowded ship in exchange for more modules

[naive mist]

Pay 16.16$ for 3 day early expedition access

[little halo]

I'm pretty sure they will do a free demo of Light No Fire, just because of NMS's launch

[naive mist]

Demo would be fire.

Hehe

[storm pebble]

It essentally designed as tutorial.Even being old player and havign starfield expireince I couldn't dive into corvette without thta. Tbh, it should be a quest line in main gme to get corvette 😛

[empty marlin]

no, it'll be no fire

[storm pebble]

How one can fail THIs badly,lol

[jovial solar]

expedition is not meant to make sense

it's meant to showcase new shiny things to players

luring them with another set of shiny things as rewards for participation

[storm pebble]

what about worm or ecoes expedition?

we have like a dozen lootabe items which have no use except former expeditions

[naive mist]

New shiny useable UI when

[storm pebble]

It's like devs go say "Go and hack youre save to activate that expedition locally" 😛

[jovial solar]

Emergence exped still falls (into what I consider) the Pioneer era of expeditions when HG was still figuring out what they wanna do with expedition

Plus being a tribute to Dune movie release helped

[storm pebble]

Uuh.. which one it was back then, the mini-series?

[jovial solar]

Singularity was tied into the new lore, Sean twitted about 4 arcs of Autophage story line

IMO those were Interceptor, Singularity, Echoes and WP2

[naive mist]

The full movie

[jovial solar]

in game past LNF

[naive mist]

Aaaaw

[storm pebble]

Yeah, but it feels like that storyline exist only in expedition and not outside ofit. So these who didn't play at the exact month it happened, missed that

[empty marlin]

I can think of better lures from the update than Unlimited Cowling Works ngl

[storm pebble]

There ar elike.. 5 of them?

[jovial solar]

not sure what you mean

sometimes exped rewards are well, update-themed

[empty marlin]

I'm just kidding; I don't really think the rewards are bad, but like 75% of the rewards are more cowling to put on your ship lol exterior hull decorations but not very much hull

[lethal adder]

I really hate the broken guns in first person corvettes

[jovial solar]

Sometimes they are "hey that one intern did some nice thingy but it doesn't fit anywhere, how about we make it an expedition goodie so we can push more content later"

[charred hound]

wdym?

[naive mist]

In expedition release time ? Huh they dont wate time

[storm pebble]

Guns not working where you close, on deck or inside of corvette?

[lethal adder]

My photon cannons shoot to the side, below and lasers appear from nowhere in the distance

but in third person they are on target

[tepid canyon]

Anyone else in here playing nms to distract themselves while waiting for battlefield 6 release

[storm pebble]

No idea when it was, was long ago? Pretty much I didnt pay any expedition excepot 18 because had no time

And played 18 only due accident as I got stuck home

[naive mist]

Exp4 28.10.2021

[storm pebble]

That's before newer moive release? expalins why their worms have classic original Dune look, not the new look movie used

[split rapids]

[storm pebble]

At risk of being hated, I don't relly ike how movie's scrip writes disregarded everything in dune lore,lol

Like: "atomics" aren't NUKes. That's all weapons which used anything advanced beyond normalphysical or heat\explosives

Wall was molten down by quantum thingy known as rockburner, not by a nuke 😛

[lethal adder]

This is my bug

[naive mist]

There is many bugs like that but this one is mine

[jovial solar]

huh

[split rapids]

❓

[lethal adder]

No mods

[storm pebble]

Autoaiming glitch?

[lethal adder]

Like I have one turret, where is the other lasers even coming from?

[naive mist]

Sqadrom member trolling

[lethal adder]

New save no squadron

[split rapids]

i accidentally pressed auto sort and now i don't know what should go where anymore

[naive mist]

F

[storm pebble]

Wait, what mod is that for tabs?

[lethal adder]

Worst part, its not just a visual glitch. It actually doesn't hit target

[split rapids]

no mod

[wary moth]

Is there an optimization guide for low end hardware?

[split rapids]

it's in the game already

[storm pebble]

game doesn't do that icon and color stuff O.o

[split rapids]

let me find the tutorial

[lethal adder]

I've even moved the guns on my ship around

[jovial solar]

pinned in #nms-modding channel

text style formatting, not a mod

[split rapids]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/qv6gy7/comprehensive_text_style_formatting_guide/

[lethal adder]

But apparently I'm the only one with this issue

[pallid lake]

Hiya fellas

[naive mist]

I just named my freighter tabs 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0, bc containers have defalut number label on them.

[wary moth]

Is there an optimization guide for this game for lower end hardware?

[pallid lake]

Wait there's auto sort?

[naive mist]

Yes

[pallid lake]

Probably best ask in #nms-questions

[lethal adder]

Welp I'm done until this gets patched for sure

[jovial solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/212051634790858754/1245109800568754237/275850_20240528222127_1.png?ex=68dce49d&is=68db931d&hm=9f9da2432c572dcffaf4cccf5435dd39fcf531b0aebdbf97cf871512f92dc90c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=309

[south bolt]

So... Interior stairways still have a chance to kick you out of your ship while in a pulse jump.

[jovial solar]

no need for numbers, just stuff

[lunar belfry]

Anyone wanna get fried and fly around willy nilly?

[storm pebble]

Yeah, they don't do that consistently. Corvette boxes have no labels, so I have done similar

[split rapids]

sorting by colors, i love it 😄

[jovial solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/212051634790858754/1342752265143844864/275850_20250220195948_1.png?ex=68dcd0ff&is=68db7f7f&hm=12a1398122439c6c4f22d792d0331cd9bea06e0c5f5c8ea23083b0e20f686ad7&

[storm pebble]

I still ahve impression thatthey meat to have that changeable. There are unused fled for that. OR that the depot towers have texture spot for icons

[south bolt]

Is that... plutonium?
How old is your save?

[storm pebble]

Just never wewas implemented

[naive mist]

They are numbered in build menu i think

[jovial solar]

modded, I renamed cond. carbon into plutonium

yee yee ass name vs actual cool name

[south bolt]

ahhh, that explains it.

[storm pebble]

which not helpful due bug. Or finding which container is which in person 😛

[jovial solar]

they dont have like numbers on corvette modules?

[storm pebble]

No ;/

Corvette models, three different look, one look like newegg shelves, others are some cans or boxes

[jovial solar]

weird cause Im pretty sure each cargo module has individual model numbered 0-9

[ruby beacon]

theyre numbered

on the build menu

[storm pebble]

Build menu always shows all of them as not-build. Or almost always

And I don't need number in build menu, I need number in real world when I look at it 😛

[south bolt]

Finally got myself an Atlantid Multi-tool. Got the slots I wanted to add.
Now to cough up 50k Nanites lol

[storm pebble]

what. is . that

alien?

[split rapids]

atlantid multitools

[storm pebble]

oh, one of two type I didn't touched yet

[jovial solar]

You need to do Autophage quests to get them

spawn at Korvax monoliths

[south bolt]

I find it odd that you can only get them in Korvax systems.

[wary moth]

How much fps y'all getting ?

[storm pebble]

Other races have too grabby paws 😛

[sudden canopy]

The tech is most compatible w/ Korvax systems

[jovial solar]

I mean there is a probable (IMO) connection

But that would be a bit spoilery

[storm pebble]

Tbh I find it odd that three factions don't have faction multi-tools 😛

[south bolt]

Now that I think about it... what are Atlantid Multi-tools good for?

[little halo]

You can presume styles to race. Rifles for Vykeen for sure

[south bolt]

I figured that the 3 attributes of a Multi-tool are for the 3 races.

[jovial solar]

atlantid MTs have innate mining bonus

[south bolt]

Damage, Mining, and Scanning.

[jovial solar]

Plus they feature a unique variant of mining beam with preinstalled cloaking

On top of which you can install regular mining beam to boost it even further

With enough upgrades and optimal SC slots, you can do combat with just the mining beam on them

[wheat grove]

Tbh i only recently know i can include mining beam atop of runic beam 😭

[jovial solar]

just keep in mind once installed you won't be able to remove it in vanilla game

[storm pebble]

I had seen a penangalan in-game, lol, Player head laoded, but not anything else

[jovial solar]

since game treats it as essential / core tech, can't be dismantled

[storm pebble]

does it do anything?

[wheat grove]

Far better mining

[south bolt]

Oh yeah, I thought it was a bug.

Probably is...

[wispy finch]

more engines pls

[south bolt]

lol

[wary moth]

Does #nms-questions really provide help ??

[wispy finch]

yes

[wary moth]

I asked for help there
No one helped tho

[wispy finch]

u asked about an optimization guide

people told you that you'd have to look for more recent ones because they become outdated quick

[exotic lynx]

guys

[wispy finch]

here's optimization advice dunno if it still works but back in the day it did

enable vsync trilinear

[exotic lynx]

fish

fish in anomaly

[wispy finch]

or whatever it is with triple

[wispy finch]

holy fish

[storm pebble]

It also really-really hardware and wetware dependant 😛

[storm pebble]

That's not me!

[wary moth]

It is there by default

I'm asking cuz I'm getting 60 fps on 1080p with dlss balanced

[storm pebble]

Game is by default locked to 60 fps because otherwise bad things happen. Yeah you have to disabe all sources of vsync, but more visual glitches may come

[soft bane]

I use the fsr filter to get a nice boost on my PC and deck maybe it will help u too

[wary moth]

Fsr filer ?

[jovial solar]

FSR, the upscaling tech from AMD

[ruby beacon]

What graphic settings?

[soft bane]

Yeah toward the bottom of graphics setting it's an upscaler

[jovial solar]

can be used on any modern GPU, does help with performance

[wary moth]

All are settings are at enhanced

[storm pebble]

Thing is 99.995% people can't really detectdifferent above 60 fps and detect below is just due to strobing effect (light or screen flicker)

[ruby beacon]

Bcs im on 2K res med-high dlss performance and im at 60fps

Well, 50-60

[ruby beacon]

Try dlss performance

Bcs no way are you getting less fps than me

[soft bane]

I get around 90 fps enhanced setting at 2k with fsr

[wary moth]

The problem is that when I switch to anything other than dlss the game crashes idk why

Ik fsr but what is fsr filter

[ruby beacon]

You have a 3050 right?

[ruby beacon]

Nvidia graphics card wants dlss

[wary moth]

Laptop 3050 🗿

[ruby beacon]

Mines a laptop 2060 too

[storm pebble]

One should check Nvidia's profile for game, I think there is frame cap by default?

[wary moth]

At 2k resolution ?

[ruby beacon]

Yes

[soft bane]

Well I worded it badly, it's not a filter as far as I know but helps your game run smooth and remove the jaggies

[wary moth]

Enhanced graphics

[jovial solar]

There is no such thing as "FSR filter" to my knowledge

[ruby beacon]

Enchanced - high

[soft bane]

Idk what the specific term is

[jovial solar]

In graphics settings you select FSR and preset

[wary moth]

🗿
Lemme check my nvidia settings rq

[jovial solar]

IMO only Quality is worth it unless you really struggle with performance then you might drop lower

[little halo]

This is a myth. Most people can tell the difference. Some people can tell the difference between 120 and 240 fps

[storm pebble]

FidelityFX Super Resolution - FSR. It's a filter, in stricter terms

[ruby beacon]

Didnt read that, 60 to 120 is VERY noticeable

[little halo]

Human eyes don't work in FPS. Trying to translate to that created misinformation

[ruby beacon]

Play smth at 30 and 120

[azure crescent]

Im fine with anything above 20 fps

[soft bane]

I can tell a diff from 90-120 fps but 90 is a nice sweet spot for getting higher quality settings and performance ime

[ruby beacon]

My absolute lowest is 24-30

[wary moth]

Tbh the feel is more noticable

In most cases higher fps makes the game feel smoother

[ruby beacon]

Yeah 90 is good for non competitive games

[soft bane]

I put up with 30 but anything lower is a sin imo

[little halo]

I'm ok with my 60 fps limit on the monitor I have, but I can kind of see the stuttering

[storm pebble]

Yeah, but 60 originally was chose to match frequency of AC power. Because ight sources kinda flicker at that speed, especially the CFL ones

[soft bane]

Unless it's like, a card game then whatever

[little halo]

But that's not what you claimed

[ruby beacon]

Playing balatro at 520 FPS

[lime haven]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1083604187230777365/1083611049892266055/GunterBase_WinterSky2023_Gumsk.png

[ruby beacon]

LETSGOOOOOOO

[storm pebble]

And sreens were flickering too. Toadyahtey don't , usually

[weak relic]

There are some people that in fact can see less fps than others

[soft bane]

Only competitive balatro :p

[weak relic]

So it's a myth and isn't at same time

[little halo]

Not really. It's a myth that humans can't tell the difference. No one really claims that some people have lower tolerance

[wary moth]

One last question
Does it happen that when y'all try to change the anti aliasing method in game
Like dlss to dlaa or fsr in game not in the menu screen

The game just crashes ?

[jovial solar]

I dont have the technical know-how to debate whether it is a filter or not

[weak relic]

But yea the more refresh rate, less noticeable it is unless you're giga sweaty in fps games

[storm pebble]

we don't see in fps.. it's olcal updates of "interesting" areas. What can be measuered is "input speed" , if eye can detect a change of image for certain period. And it ranges from 1/14 to 1/320 seconds, depends on age and person health

[ruby beacon]

My game does not crashes when i do that

But if you have a nvidia card

Then use DLSS

[soft bane]

The game crashes randomly here but hasn't for that yet

[ruby beacon]

Instead of FSR

[jovial solar]

But I will say I definetly noticed the difference between my old laptop getting me 40ish frames on high preset vs new laptop with 90ish frames on Ultra

[wary moth]

That was the plan
Js wanted to see if there was an option for amd frame gen
Usually amd's frame gen works with fsr best for me

[jovial solar]

I agree its not a fair comparison cause one used FSR and the other DLSS but still it was a day and night experience

[soft bane]

SteamOS Linux my game hasn't crashed once tho surprisingly

[weak relic]

I remember reading a study about some test did on people and their eyes couldn't see the difference above a certain amount of fps, but don't remember where

[ruby beacon]

Nms on my win 11 has never crashed too, except when im using uncompatible mods

[weak relic]

We obviously joked about it being console players

[wary moth]

Bro upgraded from chromebook to nasa pc

[soft bane]

Imagine experiencing life at 20 fps and thinking it's normal :p

[jovial solar]

there are no Linux specific crashes, NMS works dandy thanks to Proton

[little halo]

Yeah, that was a combination of misinterpretation and laymen trying to understand complicated stuff

[ruby beacon]

Like im in 800 hrs and has never crashed a single time

[jovial solar]

Im playing on Steam Deck during work trips, no issues here apart from slower texture loading

[soft bane]

Gaben optimized the game himself

[jovial solar]

lol nope

[ruby beacon]

HG are wizards

But they cook spaghetti

[little halo]

Getting it to run on Switch 1 at all was wizardly

[wary moth]

Idk
Maybe my laptop is old so that's also a factor

[jovial solar]

yeah no Linux runs the same build as Windows PCs

[ruby beacon]

shouldnt be older than mine

[weak relic]

Imagine not rolling a dice when loading a save to see if the game will crash

[ruby beacon]

Did you clean up ur temp files?

[wary moth]

2021

[ruby beacon]

2020 fam

[jovial solar]

Switch had different build, so yeah that's an achievement

[little halo]

I'm a TTRPG guy, rolling a die is great

[soft bane]

Usually it's just Microsoft apps that crash for me on windows. Idk why they're so bad at making stuff for their own product

2019 PC here

[ruby beacon]

For now i'd say just use DLSS on performance

[wheat grove]

👀

[ruby beacon]

If its still locked at 60 fps

Probably theres some other settings thats capping it

[jovial solar]

I think yeah, DLSS is a better pairing with dedicated Nvidia GPUs

[ruby beacon]

Yup

[jovial solar]

Unless you got an older one like GTX series, then give FSR a spin

[weak relic]

Well, they only work on nvidia originally

[wary moth]

Bruh 🗿
I forgot to update driver

[ruby beacon]

bruh 😭

[jovial solar]

It worked great for my older GTX based laptop

[soft bane]

Smh

[wary moth]

Apologies

[ruby beacon]

Nah all good

[wheat grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/212051634790858754/1420448720557707365/No_Mans_Sky_20250418142936.jpg?ex=68dcafb5&is=68db5e35&hm=08f8d6ec01ed5b722631cb8bd235fb5364f11447afc1dc729f805532a2f57095&

[storm pebble]

I'm more curious how they done that game usually SAVES stuff when crashes

[weak relic]

Buy a 5090 so you can have enough vram for the game to eat

[ruby beacon]

that planet looks yummy

[soft bane]

But if we buy a 5090 we won't eat

[wary moth]

Ay but even at 60 fps it looks good
Js gotta ensure the 60 is stable at all times

[wheat grove]

Hot desert planet

[weak relic]

Just the game have to eat here

[empty marlin]

y'all know this game is ten years old, right?

[storm pebble]

no glyphs. Aw

[empty marlin]

Switch isn't much of a stretch, high end graphics card not a necessity

[soft bane]

It's not that the game is old, it's that the switch is hella weak

[wheat grove]

Yea i usually dont show glyph of my own discovery. Unless i want to share them

[empty marlin]

it's not that bad. Pretty sure it kicks the crap out of my GeForce 9800 from back in the day

[lime haven]

Hi guys! There are beautiful captures in #nms-photomode-gallery needing more love! They only make it to #the-louvre if they have enough heart emojis. Self & non hearts don't count.
-# more info

[soft bane]

Even doom 2016 which was a masterpiece in optimization, even considering that fact it is a fps struggles on switch

[ruby beacon]

look at my bug ship guys

[empty marlin]

struggles, but works

[soft bane]

Game runs at 30fps and looks like ur in Play-Doh land

[empty marlin]

30fps is/was normal

[storm pebble]

Why we have power usageon freighter modules?

[empty marlin]

PC gamers always wanted more, demanding 200fps on a 60Hz monitor, but 30fps for consoles has been normal since the PS1

[soft bane]

I guess. I still can't go back to that for fps for the ps4-xbox one gen spoiled me

[storm pebble]

more like it always was normal? Tv stuff

[wheat grove]

Also, i think the conversation about pc and consoles lasted long enough. Maybe bring to another channel? 👀

[empty marlin]

yea, that's understandable. I'm not saying it's great, and when I can afford it, I want a system that can do 120fps, just that the Switch was decent, not great, but decent for a console, not terribly weak let alone for a handheld

bet, sorry. Thank you for warning us

[storm pebble]

Analog TVs couldn't do more by design. And hybrid were following the suit

Analog ones looked better because image wasn't shown frame by frame, but was interleaved and pixels glowed in all directions

[empty marlin]

re: NMS, yay, finally finished the derelict freighter

found out why it was derelict, too. Those degenerates had nip nip buds, and we all know where that leads

glad I experienced the freighter so I'm no longer curious, let's never do that again

[storm pebble]

To Han Solo's ship?

[ruby beacon]

Derelicts are fun tbh

[empty marlin]

nah lol the derelict freighter from phase 5

[ruby beacon]

They just need more enemy types

And more complex rooms

[empty marlin]

🤣

[ruby beacon]

And a bit faster walking speed

[empty marlin]

Here I was relieved I didn't have to fight anything, relieved I could get out of the maze, and never wanting to experience either again

[storm pebble]

I think mainenemy there is cold

9 out 10 derelicts I find have no enmies

[jovial solar]

You can still melee-boost in derelicts

without jetpack ofc, you're just sliding fast through the rooms

[empty marlin]

that's good, at least

I would've enjoyed it more if it wasn't on expedition

I got excited a little when I got freighter and frigate modules, then remembered they're useless because expedition

[little halo]

Sure, but that doesn't mean Model-T owners couldn't tell the difference between a 1960s sedan and a 2025 hypercar. People claim that the human eye can't see the difference, but that's objectively false

[storm pebble]

Hmm. I have that turret bug too

But that happens only when there is no targets to aim at. I have 2 turrets, but there are 6 rays

2 pairs from turrets and 2 unsynched "legacy' rays

It's not a bug. It's game's design. The extra two are from vanilla tech module

[empty marlin]

HakunaMatata is cursed to type eternally...

[cunning niche]

Fun until you cross the Dead Space version one, little monster bursting from their nests left and right 🤣
Let me out haha

[ruby beacon]

Ive found that too

😔

And i had no AOE weapons

[empty marlin]

That's what I was worried I was going to be on, since I found like multiple thousands of rounds of ammunition on the ship

[acoustic berry]

I am trying to make space on my corvette and i dont think i ever used this thing

[ruby beacon]

Like at 1 time theres like 25 of those

[cunning niche]

I just ran, they were kicking my ass like no joke 🥲

I found one that is newbie friendly and Class-S, there's only those silly flying robots stuck on the ceiling 🤣

[wary moth]

Why does dlss quality give 60 fps but performance gives 20

[pallid lake]

Dawg i was just blasting

Uupgraded pulse splitter

Full stack of ammo

100 ion battery's

Aint nothing between me and dat loot

[cunning niche]

I had no weapon, I got something spitter now, It goes brrrrrrr

[pallid lake]

Yup

Turn out

Mid loot

But plenty of living slime though

[visual dawn]

hi

[pallid lake]

Definitely recommend an aoe weapon else the shotgun

Cloak is useless

Personal shield will do if you dont have aoe weapon

[cunning niche]

I got some Class-X tech that increase the fire rate, and it goes straight line. Sentinels now are getting their arse kicked too 🤣

[pallid lake]

Just don't pop one too many nests

[pallid lake]

Good 😂😂

Ive yet to grin enough for em to start gambling

I don't gamble unless i have at least 100 chances to get what i want

^ years of being a gacha player

[ruby beacon]

LETSGO GAMBLIIINGGGGGGG

(not my ship)

[cunning iris]

No 6.06 on Mac yet I see...
Greetings, everyone

[ruby beacon]

Wait what

[pallid lake]

It's stuck in my head 😭

[empty marlin]

persona 5 flashbacks

[ruby beacon]

Why is it so late

[empty marlin]

yea 😔

[pallid lake]

Oooh man of culture right here

[cunning iris]

No idea, they do that sometimes. 😅

[ruby beacon]

Tim did not cook 😔

[cunning iris]

Retaliation for the new iOS perhaps. They didn't like the whole liquid screen stuff.

[visual dawn]

any1 else on an ice looking planet?

[pallid lake]

Bro

Its either cold

Frozen cold

[empty marlin]

resists urge to have conversations because they're banned

[pallid lake]

Or just cold