light-no-fire

[fleet imp]

nothing but the trailer #light-no-fire message

[long tendon]

okie dokie thank you mr zarx

[dusky pike]

What do yall think the combat will be like? You guys think there's gonna be builds or perhaps a dodge roll and parry combat system similar to a souls game. Or perhaps the combat won't be a major part or the game and is similar to that of nms

So many possibilities

[opaque citrus]

I dont expect vast gear builds.

Maybe Something closer to skyrim. Some basic stats like dmg, durability and weight.

[sudden steeple]

Shields exists in LNF (visible in the trailer) and not in NMS so I guess at least the close combat will be quite different

[void palm]

There is a shield for ground combat in nms

[sudden steeple]

True, but not the kind I would expect for LNF. Too big and multidirectional.
Most of NMS combat is ranged. Some ramming opponents exist, that's all.
I expect more real close combat in a medieval fantasy setup

[crystal willow]

And finally, we're making great progress on our upcoming fantasy title, Light No Fire. You can wishlist it on Steam here.
#nms-announcements message

LNF mentioned Again, What are you cooking Sean

[shy tangle]

fire no light

the fire isnt lighting

[sudden steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1184930668753469530.webp?size=128

[wind moth]

Does anyone think we’d get an announcement during the Game Awards?

[low forge]

Considering their past, I can't imagine we get anything news wise for this until the game is like 99% complete

[opaque citrus]

imo we will get at least trailer without release date so HG will not have to do crunch and dont have to be pressured by the time.

[slate jungle]

I think we'll get an update
Lately they've been mentioning it with the expedition announcements, and even linked the steam wish list for LNF.

[cursive sentinel]

But no concrete data on when or how, right?

[stiff apex]

What race is everyone gonna play as?

I was considering human, but I always play a human in like every game it's an option for, so I was thinking of doing fox instead.

[shut wadi]

Depends if each character has different unique abilities or perks

[opaque citrus]

No confirmed races yet. But i will play human probably

[shut wadi]

If not then just whichever looks best

[vivid fossil]

Mouse. For Redwall!

[void palm]

Fox for life

[opaque citrus]

Happy 1 year waiting for lnf news day.

[smoky sleet]

I want to play as the bunnies

[open temple]

Not the anniversary I wanted to celebrate.

[vivid fossil]

One year already? Wow.

[cursive sentinel]

Definitely not human, maybe half-half

[exotic cloak]

When is the game coming out? Is there a date?

[crystal willow]

No date, no official info was given, all we have is one trailer

We are still waiting for any official announcements

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ?si=iAQEA1Qd6nTlO4Fs

[exotic cloak]

Oh ok, thanks

[short beacon]

bro thinks a literal to scale planet wont be big enough for an mmo LMAO

[crystal willow]

MMO rely on having a lot of players in certain area, I would argue that a whole planet will be too much for a player density that would support MMO

[glacial niche]

Hi

What is light no fire?

Is it like no mans sky?

[crystal willow]

Kinda, Its the next Game The Devs of No man's Sky are working on

[glacial niche]

Yes i see, but what is it about? I see flying dragons

Oooh is it like ark?

[crystal willow]

We don't know, there isn't much info about it
Its supposed to be procedurally generated world in fantasy setting, all we have is that trailer I posted above

There is LNF server too

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[daring oyster]

How much is LNF expected to cost

To play i mean

[opaque citrus]

I expect full price 60$

[sharp hollow]

i would be suprised if it wasn't

[vivid fossil]

Now if they’re going for true mmo with that… and it’s developed on NMS engine… perhaps Worlds Pt2 would be a deployment of even better multiplayer integration into NMS? That would be neat 👀

[autumn marsh]

Where did they announce it as MMO?
Steam page says survival sandbox with Singleplayer/Coop.
I could be wrong, I would be happy about actual information indicating MMO content.
They wrote "Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others." which could be easily done with coop or the same way multiplayer in NMS works.

[sudden steeple]

All in the same planet can be interpreted in many ways.
Discoveries at least will be shared worldwide.

[tropic patrol]

🔥

[tropic patrol]

I say its gonna be nothing like NMS

A 4 player survival coop instead of open MMO

That way the coop aspect is more stable and less buggy

[bleak temple]

What if light no fire is the world Artemis was put in and we are now playing as different iterations of Artemis I know it's a massive stretch but i think it would be cool

[sharp hollow]

Interesting idea

Def a stretch though

[bleak temple]

I know

[twilit talon]

What happened to LNF launching in 2024 lmao

Not that i was expecting it to but every source insists on it

[opaque citrus]

Lol there was no date on trailer

Not system requirements

No confirmed platforms
Nothing

So idk what sources claimed it will launch 2024

Sean only said the game was in development for 5 years.

[void palm]

Any source saying that had absolutely no basis for that assumption

And should probably be disregarded in the future

[opaque citrus]

Technically we discovered majority of NMS. Every type of biome fauna and flora where discovered. That is not stoping us from playing.

[smoky sleet]

Fingers crossed we get some exciting updates during the game awards!

[smoky sleet]

I am so excited to play as a bunny! Bunnies look absolutely amazing in this game.

[analog aurora]

No news...
😔

[burnt idol]

oh the misery

[quartz torrent]

damn not even at game awards we got no news :/
i saw Sean there sitting in the crowd :/

[opaque citrus]

Friday the 13

Unlucky

[sage pebble]

Me too! I was hoping and hoping and then it just died.

[quartz torrent]

im excited for a few games but Hello Games was one of the few Developers that kept surprising me
i expected LNF to be like a good last premier but well 😄

[sage pebble]

Same

I was waiting for it to be the closer

And got left hanging

[quartz torrent]

yeah it would be really cool

[shut wadi]

How was there no light no fire news whyyyy 🫴🏻

[opaque citrus]

I blame friday 13

Could blame gleam but he is good entity

[sand wasp]

[floral anchor]

Me staying up till 3am to watch the game awards. (“There’s nothing”)

[opaque citrus]

Lucky u. I stayed up until like 5am. It started for me at 1:30 am

[quartz torrent]

same for me
i got sick yesterday :/

[opaque citrus]

Gunter confirms

[waxen quartz]

I don't mind Hello Games taking there time with Light no Fire. I'm really thankfully that they are importing Light no Fire technology into No Man Sky. This is what makes the wait bearable for me.

[sly kite]

https://tenor.com/view/harrys-hammer-club-harry-hammer-club-wen-gif-26315615

[sly kite]

https://tenor.com/view/cnft-nft-wen-when-over-exposed-gif-24787226

[stoic knot]

Will be light no fire available on Mac?

[void palm]

We don’t know

[misty gull]

If u think we have found majority ur sadly mistaken, there's no conceivable way to know whether we have or not, especially not with all 256 galaxies

[opaque citrus]

Im 100% sure all planets types,aminal types and biomes where discovered. TYPE. Not every possible prog gen outcome.

[misty gull]

Ohhhh I see

Yeah I could probably agree with the planets argument

[sly kite]

https://tenor.com/view/fisto-4762-4762armada-punk4762-cryptopunks-gif-18293281662779952943

[sick forum]

https://tenor.com/view/kira-kiraoninj-kiraoninjective-wen-working-gif-4837225732060046275

[white pivot]

2025 take it or leave it

[past jolt]

didnt hello games make a goose gam or smt

[opaque citrus]

They made joe danger and the last campfire

[boreal snow]

I am from the past. People of 2025, release date please.

[crystal star]

A cool idea, imagine if technology advanced in light no fire like per update or per year or something, and then it gets to a point where there are skyscrapers and cars and such, probably will never happen but a man can dream

[rancid thicket]

It's a neat idea

[bronze rock]

But no man can sky

[tawny peak]

gunter confirmed we are getting light no fire in early 2025

[tight bluff]

has there been any info on the price range of lnf ? i hoping its not over 80 on release xD

[opaque citrus]

No info. But i expect 60

[modest patrol]

$5

[half sigil]

$10 take it or leave it

[cursive sentinel]

Hope lnf has stricter grip on save editing and/or duping so we can actually have some resemblance of economy

[opaque citrus]

Nah. If you strict that. Selling items online and farm bots will start. Like in wow.

[cursive sentinel]

There's got to be something that can be done. The way it's now in NMS is terrible too

[analog aurora]

Just spotted these via Professor Cynical...

[quaint acorn]

Who is already building these places???:P let us build some too!:)

[opaque citrus]

Nice Ai pics but its just that.

I dont rely much on professor cynical in terms of predictions .

[analog aurora]

Thanks for the clarification 👍

[reef pumice]

Will light no fire have vr 👀

[void palm]

That man does nothing but spit out whatever bullshit comes to his mind

Do not trust him whatsoever

Anything he posts can be dismissed immediately

[void palm]

We dunno

[opaque citrus]

Probably not from the start but there are high chances for that

[reef pumice]

Sick

[sharp hollow]

i hope so

[reef pumice]

Indeed imagine there will be an update similar to nms beyond at some point

[safe brook]

I have to say I'm not sure I agree that it's "terrible," NMS is a sandbox first and foremost and one of the most appealing things about a sandbox is your ability to do whatever you want with it. I have never wanted that taken away from us in NMS, and I don't want LNF to be restricted in that way either

really, if someone wants to start the game with a maxed out save file then that doesn't bother me one bit.

[green frost]

when

[dusk hatch]

Before we light fires.

[dusk hatch]

Online economies are a plague

[cursive sentinel]

Would you rather everything is worthless?

[sand wasp]

Players should never set the prices on anything, ever

[cursive sentinel]

You can have an economy without player prices. Items in NMS have market prices too, use those

[crystal willow]

I just want to be a travelling merchant

Its not even about profit (tho profit is important )

Having a cart and going around a fantasy world trading with people sounds like a very chill thing to do

[dusk hatch]

In a video game everything is worthless. Ascribing value to worthless shit for the purpose of giving it value is called rigging.

[dusk hatch]

Imagine mp Fable

[half epoch]

...that bird mount in the trailer calls to me

[plucky monolith]

Ok I just rewatched the trailer cause I had forgotten what this game even looked like

[half epoch]

I guess I'm just wondering what will make this not "fantasy NMS"

heck, even if it's modern fantasy NMS that'll hook me

[plucky monolith]

HG you guys have to get it right on release this time around please take your sweet damn time with it

[half epoch]

though I can be bribed with character customization and bird content, one of which already exists

[sharp yacht]

I want the hummingbird one

[half epoch]

Yes. exactly. MORE BIRDS

[plucky monolith]

....can we put armor on our birds...?

[sharp yacht]

Even if this is what it is I'll play it

[sharp yacht]

YES

I NEED THIS

[plucky monolith]

I saw a concerning lack of fireballs in the trailer, I wonder how much magic there'll be in it

[cursive sentinel]

Not inworld. Obviously outside of the game items don't have objective value, but if you don't understand why trading in a MP game needs the traded goods to have some kind of agreed-upon value, then I deem every other interaction on this with you pointless.

[sudden steeple]

There was a guy with a staff using magic in the trailer

[dusk hatch]

Keeping on topic, your issue with the economy is moot by virtue of the game itself resetting economic trade values between regions and over a short time. Players do not have to trade with players to get rich, to save edit or to dupe.

Things in the game do have a value that is assigned by the game and over time re-assigned by the game despite all of the things players do to exploit it.

The only reason I can see to justify stricter policies on save editing and/or duping is in the event that there are no NPC to trade with and as a result players are being harmed by the practice. As it stands, the economy in NMS being used as an analogous is self correcting over very little time and space.

There are trade routes you can take in the game today that net a huge profit and over a very short time result in capping your currency.

The economy you're trying to protect does not exist.

[hybrid mauve]

Latest news?

[opaque citrus]

No news

[void palm]

Game awards 2023 trailer is the latest news we got

[hybrid mauve]

Thanks

[coarse birch]

Ok so ive been watching the vikings show. And in the 6th season they make it to the west where they find “a new world”

I feel like we are going to experience that feeling in this game.

Exploring new worlds that we have not seen before

[unkempt comet]

this needs to come now!

[sudden steeple]

Look at Cyberpunk first trailer release date (2013)
Look at Cyberpunk release date (2020)
Look at the state of the game when it finally released

Despair !

Not the same of course as LNF clearly reuse NMS assets but it proved long delay between initial trailer and release can be very long

[tawny void]

Is there loads of magic?

[void palm]

Do you see loads of magic in the trailer?

[tawny void]

meh some

[void palm]

Thats all we know

[proud osprey]

What does light no fire even mean

Ohh, isn't that the teams next game, I think I saw the trailer it looks great

[gusty hound]

It is that game

[gusty hound]

the trailer look great, the problem is that we only have the trailer

[proud osprey]

One could even say it looks fire

[gusty hound]

🔥

[lost horizon]

WEN RELEASE?

[opaque citrus]

TBA

[ionic girder]

LNF up to #7 on Steam most wishlisted games

[opaque citrus]

Noice

No wonder that hg is quiet and not flooding us with nms updates. They are probably max focused on lnf

Im suprised that nightregin is so high.

[gusty hound]

I'm pretty sure that for the last month they have been on vacations, witch should end in a few days

[proud osprey]

Lol hollow knight silksong is never getting released

[odd spindle]

When it’s done, would be my guess.
Hello Games has learned from the NMS launch.

Better to leave people guessing, and pleasantly surprise them… than to get them hyped up, and disappoint them.

[lost horizon]

True...

Excited though! Would be better if the launch is along with Switch 2.

[sudden steeple]

Due to the Nintendo strategy of outdated specs, just take a Steam Deck Oled, you will have a better game, better Perfs and a better screen.

[void palm]

But you won’t have any of the exclusive games

And the switch 2 is rumored to be about as powerful as a ps4 pro

Spoiler the parts about nms lore please

It sounds possible but I personally hope LNF and nms are completely separate

Not connected in any way

[cunning dock]

Just a random quick tip cuz i just popped in the server: if you wanna get 20 mil units in around half an hour, hunt for storm crystals. they're worth 2,110,000 per stack, so in an hour you could get as much as 8 mil units

[sudden steeple]

So lacking compared with the steam deck. And with the emulators you can have access to the exclusive.
With heroic to gog and epic games too so you have much more choice.

Hello games have always optimized its games for popular devices so I guess there will be designated specs options for both the Steam deck, the switch 2 and probably even for the switch 1, but with huge sacrifices for this last one.

I seriously doubt LNF requirements will be way higher than NMS ones as it is the same engine.

[sweet crane]

I want a steam deck but im a nintendo fiend

[tepid bane]

Given the fact Switch 2 will run Cyberpunk, heavily dlss of course, I cant see any reason it wont run LnF

Honestly switch 2 hardware is a considerable leap and I cant imagine how NMS will run on it, bodes well for LnF

[void palm]

Afaik no one has confirmed that Cyberpunk will be available on switch2

[plucky monolith]

I wonder why the name for LNF... Whats the problem with lighting fires? 🤔

[waxen quartz]

Nothing, acts of arson is totally fine.

[modern plume]

I was always a Nintendo baby too, although the last console I had was the GameCube I bought in 2005, and then no more consoles until May 2024 with the PS5, lol. But the Steam Deck isn't part of the traditional 3 of Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox. Steam Deck is for Steam, which isn't even console. So in essence, you can have a Steam Deck for Steam purposes, and then still have Nintendo as your main console. There's so much on Steam it just boggles the mind.

[modern plume]

Anybody know if NMS had a beta release back then ?

[sand wasp]

No beta

[desert ridge]

Valve are some players 😎

[old thorn]

ok i want this game 2025 !!!

[sly kite]

https://tenor.com/view/lbl-laidbackllamas-laid-back-llamas-wen-llama-llama-gif-181137193945110141

[waxen quartz]

No Light no Fire news or Worlds Part 2 news. I’m dying over here!

[opaque citrus]

#memes🤡

[sly kite]

https://tenor.com/view/cnft-nft-wen-when-over-exposed-gif-24787226

[opaque citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-when-it's-ready-cyberpunk-cyberpunk-teaser-cyberpunk-reveal-when-it's-ready-gif-10882222506021342343

[short beacon]

I hope the character customization means a bit more than in NMS. I get in a scifi game why it wouldn't, but fantasy games usually have racial attributes

But maybe they're making another exploration game set in a fantasy universe, the same way NMS isn't an RPG

[sick forum]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-when-btc-machine-ordinal-ordinals-gif-1449427558918653831

[exotic cloak]

Will the game come out this year?

[opaque citrus]

Probably not.

[jaunty briar]

Would be nice if it did

Maybe they'll pull a GTA6 and wait 2 years

[true oriole]

a game rushed.. something something bad

smart move to release it on their terms

[unique stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/moki-moku-hq-wen-moki-wen-buff-moki-gif-9941077382686527737

[plucky monolith]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed one is bad forever"

As foretold in the ancient gaming scriptures

[void palm]

Nms was very much rushed

It’s not bad now

[plucky monolith]

I'm sure that took immense sacrifice for the team that would've been avoided if they had the option of delaying it in the first place

That sentence is applicable when dev teams aren't doing the sort of miracle HG did, which is most of the time

[lilac marten]

Really hard to say from 1.0 (to when the game got properly good imo) in 1.3 NMS was in development for 5 years which is about how long LNF has been now but most of that work was done by about 6 people at a time where LNF has had a much bigger team behind it. Ultimately though how long it's gonna take depends on what they actually planned for the game, what they can deliver on and what they feel like doing post launch, if anything at all, none of which we really know. It could come out in two months or three more years.

[pastel cedar]

I think NMS and Light No firemight share a universe

[exotic cloak]

😭

[exotic cloak]

I understand 😔

[lilac marten]

I would have to agree

that logo would be inexplicably bad brand recognition otherwise

making completely wild speculation I feel like LNF is probably the good ending of what is described in the rogue data terminals

[pastel cedar]

yeah I think that it could be another simulation of the Atlas

[lilac marten]

My personal hypothesis is that the LNF world is a result of the || og creator being the mystery person in the rogue data logs returning to the Atlas as (they're the only one we know of who didn't want it to be alone and had a personal connection with it, and would know the location) showed up to reboot it || it makes sense thematically NMS is all about the loneliness and fear of space. Its universe is cold where as LNF seems warm and fun and inviting by comparison. So I think it seems like a || new fun creation shared between them ||

[pastel cedar]

pretty dope

[lilac marten]

That's just total conjecture mostly though

Second guess would be a slz style metaverse thing

I.e the atlas is the same "character" taking a different shape in two parallel universe with some amount of crossover

[void palm]

Ngl I really hope nms and LNF are completely separate

I don’t want another atlas story I want something new and unique

[crystal willow]

Same

[lilac marten]

I mean as long as the game is a good ratio of mostly new things to some crossover that's fine by me

[sudden steeple]

Let's imagine NMS players could visit LNF-like worlds.

Maybe the legendary ||purple system|| planets

[lilac marten]

I really doubt they will be completely separate though judging by the logo. It would be a suicidal business and branding decision to do that unless they specifically want the association.

like there's no way they didn't know what they were doing

and it would be uncharacteristic of them for there to be zero depth to that

[void palm]

Could also be reusing old assets

[lilac marten]

I think if they wanted the game to be entirely distinct they could have easily made an entirely distinct logo. Why go to all the effort of making an entirely new game with tons of 100% new complex procedural artwork + concept art and then not draw a entirely new picture to sell it with unless it had some relation? Doesn't make sense to me. That would be like if the Indiana jones promo material used the star wars font against a black background.

[sand wasp]

[sudden steeple]

Creating concept art or whole video is no longer complicated at all

[lilac marten]

LOL

[loud cedar]

Have we had any update on this?

[void palm]

No

[lilac marten]

aside from a few minor leaks or semi-complete assets datamined from NMS not really

[odd spindle]

Yggdrasil time!

[sly kite]

https://tenor.com/view/lfg-wen-solana-stone-cold-steve-austin-gif-393311542851415137

[formal crown]

what happend to his fingers? did they get put through a flaming blender?

[sudden steeple]

Free without login online image generators tend to be the worse you can get 🙂

[torn fulcrum]

Yes, hello. Long time supporter of NMS, pre-orderer, first time chatter.

I have two intertwined questions: will I be able to play a skeleton in Light No Fire, and if not, how do you plan to stop me from escaping my flesh prison?

[formal crown]

yes

[vale wharf]

can i play no mans sky with some one

[split meteor]

@vale wharf
-# to view info below, enable embeds

Hello there Traveller <:NmsWave:930633709202321408>

If you are looking for people to play with then you can try our Looking For Group channel 👉 #nms-lfg-or-trades
If no one responds immediately then maybe you need to wait a bit longer, check the channel again later
@crystal willow

[lilac marten]

nobody knows anything tragically we have the trailer and a few very vague statements on the website it can be assumed that you can play as a lot of fantasy things judging by the trailer but no skeletons yet

personally really hoping we get a warforged equivalent playable race for that game eventually

[dusk hatch]

What a brilliant idea, to use NMS as a testbed for technology at scale planned for LNF

[lilac marten]

yeah cross pollination of those things works out best for both games loving the graphical and terrain gen enhancements

probably helping HG out a lot too considering QA is really expensive

[stiff apex]

Every update I see for NMS makes me more and more excited for LNF.

[lilac marten]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-lennon-celticfc-neil-lennon-always-sunny-neil-lennon-conspiracy-conspiracy-gif-19353285

Guys one of the Atlas interfaces says ||"The truth of the universe is fire. The soul is light."||

[fathom lintel]

i think its funny how light no fire is the only case where people are glad that the game is in development hell with zero communication from the team

its like an inverse silksong

[lilac marten]

not really sure about development hell but definitely zero communication

[fathom lintel]

i say "development hell" as in "its taking a crazy long time to develop"

[lilac marten]

ok yeah those are sort of different things

[sand wasp]

I don't think it's taking a long time considering what it's doing and with how many people they have

[lilac marten]

I was also considering bringing that up

rockstar as an example employs nearly 1000 people to make a two dozen or so square miles meanwhile HG is trying to populate an entire planet millions of times larger with 40~ people on staff so naturally it's gonna take the better part of a decade

[torn fulcrum]

Maybe when we fight, we’ll roll for initiative, too.

[torn fulcrum]

I’m more asking for opinions. What do you think? They can’t keep me contained forever.

[safe brook]

yeah "development hell" definitely has a... different meaning to most folks, lol. it's actively being developed, it's just taking a while because it's a smaller team taking on a VERY ambitious project.

[torn fulcrum]

Development Hell implies it's been scrapped and redone over and over again. Also, Light No Fire is NOT TAKING A LONG TIME TO DEVELOP. Early access culture, triple-A bumbling of scheduling, and rushed projects have spoiled people's expectations for the length of a game's development cycle. Good games take time. More time with less people, and more time when they're trying to make something good. Sit down and watch more YouTube Shorts. Good things take time, and continually accusing them of taking too long is going to make the final product worse.

You think people would've learned that the first time around, but no, apparently they didn't.

And I'm not even saying that as some middle-aged veteran of gaming. I'm 25.

[lilac marten]

As long as they keep backporting features to NMS I'm more than happy to wait at the same time it's killing me to know what they've been doing with more time and budget and less pressure

[torn fulcrum]

Last time they gushed about their plans, it blew up in their face.

[lilac marten]

I'm well aware but that's not gonna stop my curiosity

[lilac marten]

Sometimes I wonder if the launch being as it was might have been the best timeline. As far as I understand the studio almost went bankrupt while making NMS so if not for the cha ching they got we might have never received almost ten years of updates+a new game with higher production value

[torn fulcrum]

Curiosity is fine. It’s people demanding updates or claiming they’re taking too long and complaining about Hello Games’ silence.

I’d never walk back history. Mistakes and failures in the past are how we prepare for a better future, and wanting to erase what’s happened is only indicative of a failure to grow; and to that extent, I wouldn’t wish for things to have gone differently. Instead, I am trying to offer to the people here - not just you, Johnny - an alternative mindset when they approach this expecting constant updates and schedules and discussion from the dev team. Everything that those people are asking for is everything that went wrong the first time around. We need to learn the same way that Hello Games already did.

[sharp brook]

I hope LNF has magic armor with buffs like magic boost boots that let you melee jump like in NMS lol

[past jolt]

just saw light no fire trailer for first time im wandering just of that when light no fire gets released if theres 2 games then it will be hard for hello games to update 2 games ata time with such a small team

[pine breach]

They’ve been updating no man’s sky and developing light no fire for years now
Shouldn’t be a problem

[sharp brook]

Yeah LNF has been in development for like 6 years now and it seems HG is toning down the content for NMS and bringing in features from lnf into it

[formal crown]

Yes, but rockstar makes the maps my hand. Hello games is mostly procedural. Its still a ton of work to make the assets and engine, but they are two very different studios.

[lilac marten]

I mean the tech shortcuts they take make as many hurdles as they cross as far as I understand. There's a reason pretty much only NMS has had the nerve to dive this far into procgen in a fully 3D game. That's because its almost a complete uncharted jungle full of rabid lions in terms of development. Like making a varied, mostly believable set of creatures procedurally in real time has as far as I know only ever been achieved by NMS because most other developers can't front the risk, and hassle. This is to the extent that the best implementations of procgen outside NMS I can think of are Caves of Qud and Dwarf Fortress. Both of which only kind of have graphics and still took decades of iteration and continued development to this day to pull off. Sure it takes less people to make that kind of game but it certainly doesn't take less time.

[past jolt]

[unkempt rain]

Hey all, new to Hello Games, absolutely loving NMS and so hyped for LNF

Just started NMS yesterday

[sudden steeple]

Discover the new technology, light without heat, light no fire, the LED.

[sudden steeple]

Enjoy !

[brave onyx]

The real question here is

Will we get LNF before gta6

[fervent quarry]

no one knows

[cinder notch]

!news

[desert forge]

the first thing I'm gonna do when I get this game is light several fires

[clear sundial]

NOOOOO

You can't

It's in the name

I will be building zero fires

A massive mountain fortress tho?

Thats happening

[hushed basalt]

So there will be no campfires? Torches? Smithies? Cooking? Brick baking? Potion brewing? Fireplaces? In a fantasy game? How?! HOOOOOW? We must light all the fires.

[clear lake]

Prometheus' sacrifice will be pathetically in vain >:3

[wind shard]

i will light some water

[warm sedge]

cant wait for this game

[modern bobcat]

So the game is compromised of a single massive planet?

[opaque citrus]

Earth size planet

[modern bobcat]

I wonder how often will we be able to bump into other players

[sturdy compass]

I hope they improve it compared to nms

[modern bobcat]

My introvert ass loves being alone even in games but i'd like things akin to towns and cities that players gather in

[sick forum]

If Sean comes in here and justifies to us why we should not light fires, I'll listen, but otherwise ... light all the fires! Just out of spite!

[modern bobcat]

Lights fire

Sentinel forces deployed

[modern bobcat]

I wonder how large would the Planet's ecosystem be

[cosmic pawn]

Feel like lnf should be massive multiplayer..like wow

[verbal portal]

Earth scale I believe

[verbal portal]

Brother , have you not heard of ✨ magic cooking ✨

[modern bobcat]

It'd be insane to have thousands of species and fun af

[verbal portal]

Guys

KORVAX IN LNF CONFIRMED /J

[modern bobcat]

Honestly i'd love if the flora and fauna were handcrafted than generated or at least have some extreme variety and make sense like real life species. It would be in stark contrast to NMS

[verbal portal]

I also hope this game wont have flying boob ball fauna

[modern bobcat]

The elusive Udderfly

[verbal portal]

W name

Tho I am wondering how they' handle MP on 1 planet

Theres gonna be bases everywhere

[modern bobcat]

It seems to be leaning to fantasy than "alienish" alien themes though. But i'd like if there is some weird biomes akin to the corruption and crimson

[modern bobcat]

Im assuming there is a base limit

Or limited base area

You have a set area that belongs to you and only players you authorised as companions. You can maybe expand that area if you upgrade your base but you cant go and litter the planet. Hence why players could band and build cities and towns

[void palm]

Its a knowledge bro

[verbal portal]

Omg real

[olive tulip]

a planet the size of earth !

youd need billions of players to fill it up Lol

[verbal portal]

But there will be bases everywhere

[olive tulip]

i would think that a clan/alliance territory system would be a thing even a ruler of a whole kingdom/country ect..

[modern bobcat]

There could be a base distance limit which would mean you cant just build wherever you want

And also prevents griefing

Somebody cant just go inside your base and build whatever they want against you

[shell depot]

have they ever given an approximate release date for Light No Fire? A year perhaps?

[sand wasp]

Nope

No info but the trailer and the website

Tease I should say, not trailer

[shell depot]

That makes sense. Still very excited about it. A true planet sized planet it super exciting, and to me personally, the fact that it is in the fantasy genre is also exciting.

[sand wasp]

I'm trying to keep my hype to just what I have seen, but I love what I have seen so much lol

[shell depot]

NMS and Dyson Sphere program have TONS of planets, but I've always been interested in true planet size maps, especially if you can actually circle the globe

[sand wasp]

I'm hopeful we have a old school looking fantasy map that we fill in as we go

Like that

[shell depot]

I LOVE the fantasy genre, whether films, books or games, so after playing NMS, my hype for LNF is high. Swords, bows and magic just excite a very deep part of my being lol

[modern bobcat]

I want magic

[shell depot]

me too

IF there's going to be magic in this game, I hope it's magical and not just glowing orbs that deal damage. I haven't played it for a while, but I was disappointed by Enshrouded's "magic" that was just that. It doesn't have to be crazy powerful or abstract or something, just fun, which I realize is already a big ask. I should calm my hype a bit lol

[opaque citrus]

Maybe we could make our own maps.

[sand wasp]

Would be wonderful

[stoic latch]

So what is light no fire about

[modern bobcat]

Light no fire

It's a big one planet exploration fantasy nmsv2 rpg-like game

It's pretty exciting considering they are going for one compact planet than the many quintillions of planets of nms

[foggy belfry]

is LNF in the same universe as NMS?

[sand wasp]

The only things we know are from the trailer and the website. Nothing mentioned on that front

[drowsy badger]

this game sounds cool

[spice oak]

theres most likely magic, as there are staves

and the buiding was pretty magical

the bricks floating into place

[shut wadi]

I wonder if it's going to be the next simulation after the atlas dies or if it's the prologue to the creation of the atlas

[austere carbon]

Is light no fire on xbo

[crystal willow]

It's not on any platform, game didn't released, there is not release date yet

[austere carbon]

But like when it releases

Or not confirmed

[crystal willow]

who knows

nothing was confirmed

[austere carbon]

Ok

[short beacon]

😺

[void palm]

Uhhhm…you’re advertising a NMS-community in the light no fire chat?

[short beacon]

close. it's a Light No Fire community going in to NMS

[sand wasp]

Huh

No recruiting here

[short beacon]

Self-Promotion Rule:
Once your community's listed in this channel, our server's self-promotion and recruitment rules still apply. If you want to share your community, you may do so by mentioning its name, with a link to its listing in this channel, and no mention of recruitment.

[sand wasp]

NMS community

That's some amalgamation

Which we will be addressing

[short beacon]

how welcoming. yeah it's new?

[sand wasp]

The point of the communities channel here is for NMS, and not NMS plus other games.

I understand the confusion, sorry it wasn't made more clear.

[short beacon]

seemed the most logical place

[nocturne charm]

Omg i cannot waitttt

[austere lion]

Guys.

Have y'all.

Considered the possibility...

Light no Fire has additional dimensions?

In the way that...the main planet has 4 times the size of earth and all of that...and maybe we have alternate dimensions we can travel to?

The same way we have euclid, Eissentam...

We could have the main realm, the dark realm...

[modern bobcat]

Its likely that each gamemode has its own planet like how nms has its own universes

[spring garden]

The dimensions can be a way to explain how everyone would play together

in multiplayer

[pastel cedar]

what if you were to light a fire though

[void palm]

Its one planet the size of earth
No one has mentioned anything about it being 4x the size

[short beacon]

Instead of fantasy, I would've loved a robotic uprising world, think of The Terminator, or even like prehistoric.

Fantasy is all good too, just my anxiety usually can't handle 'dark' creatures. It's weird, but it seems to be a trigger for my anxiety and stress.

[umbral mango]

@short beacon that sounds so cool

[analog hill]

sooo Horizon: Zero Dawn?

[modern bobcat]

Tbh i'd very much prefer full blown fantasy, considering the giant Korvax there is probably some robotic elements/lore to the game

I think the game while trying to be a sister to NMS is going to be a remarkably different game in visuals, objectives, combat etc

[whole lark]

I just don’t understand how one earth will fit all players

[modern bobcat]

Apparently it fits 8 billion players

[cinder temple]

If it’s properly sized like 1:1 then there’s more than enough space

[ivory beacon]

VR support?

[short beacon]

I played HZD briefly, it wasn't my cup of tea, from when I played it, it seemed very heavily story-based, instead of sandbox-y. Maybe I should give it another go.

[short beacon]

🙂 I thought so.

[analog hill]

ahh I see, it sounded like it might've been up your alley based on what you were describing

[short beacon]

Oh, sorry. Yeah, I prefer sandbox type games, more than story-driven ones. I don't mind the odd storyline so long as there's plenty of room for just doing whatever, like NMS haha. 🙂

[modern bobcat]

I do hope the game goes hard on the fantasy theme. Both physical weapons and magic alike, not many games have these fleshed out

Many rpgs have these attacks as like specific attacks but i want something dynamic and realistic, like actually swinging a sword rather than having it be a generic melee attack, having an abnormally high amount of unique spells which shows how versatile magic would be

I was thinking of having each category of magic with 24 unique spells casted with a combination of numbers(like 1234, 1243 etc) which would be a huge variety of spells, 24 ice spells, 24 fire, 24 enchantments and so on.

[strange oyster]

I'm so excited for LNF because HG made my ultimate space game. I haven't un-installed since 2016.

If they can do that with fantasy 👀

[void palm]

Theres 8 billion people on earth, and we still have parts of earth that are t fully explored
There’s gonna be maybe a few million players of lnf
I don’t think you realize just how big earth is

[modern bobcat]

Even if we had millions i doubt we will be up at the same time or playing the same gamemode

[long heart]

it will be interesting to see if they can keep enough variance in the world to make it worth exploring while still keeping tight enough control on it that it doesnt end up with complete nonsense generation in places

NMS gets away with a lot by mainly being caves and landscape with like 5 buildings

but you cant just copy paste dungeons

like you can copy paste korvax archives

its a delicate balance they're gonna have to walk. I think they can do it

[modern bobcat]

I can see them having certain things be procedural gen while others be handmade?

Terrain is big but i can see places of interest being custom made by HG

[lucid citrus]

Dunno if I've ever encountered procedural dungeons in any game with random dungeons that have ever felt really satisfying to me so that's maybe a point of concern.

[lucid citrus]

And no idea if they've addressed this but LNF could be instanced, or just keep generating terrain for... a really, really long way out.

Or you could have multiple uh... parallel universes/planets you could make one way trips to (or be randomly assigned to at character creation?) in the same way that NMS has multiple galaxies, if you need something to space players out more. Not basing this on anything beyond stuff the existing engine does, mind 😛

[long heart]

there are a lot of unanswereds, like if Sean is Peter Molyneaux's illegitimate son who inherited his ambition but not his complacency, and hopefully we'll find out more when they're ready to show it

[modern plume]

Speaking of fitting billions on a planet like Earth, I did a calculation for if every human being who had ever lived and diedwere to be resurrected back to life, the number of which reaches upwards of 100 billion people. If you had every one of those 100 billion people standing in a 2 square foot space, 100 billion people would only take up a third of the state of Massachusetts. So just imagine dispersing that through all of America, let alone the entire Earth. It would still be quite rural.

[sick forum]

keep up with news by wishlisting Light No Fire on Steam
Number of news received since the trailer: 0️⃣ 🤨 😛

[sly kite]

Prob won’t happen. This company isn’t known for their combat

[hushed basalt]

This a prank comment? It's doing that now. :p But in seriousness, I don't get why people think this is weird. Online multiplayer games take place in a single territory, island, or even town, and it still works fine. NMS works because it saves things to your system instead of a central server, but that of course makes the Multiplayer experience a buggy, janky mess. Hopefully that won't be the case for LNF.

[whole lark]

I hope lnf will be good🙏 been playing nms since the month it came out

[opaque citrus]

No lnf trailer on state of play 😦

[tepid bane]

The fact they mentioned wishlisting though, hrmmmmm?

[crystal willow]

They have been doing that since Aquarius iirc

Every major article on their website for bigger updates or expeditions mentioned LNF

[final edge]

Hey, does anyone know at least what year Light No Fire will come out in?

[tepid bane]

No

I would assume though this year or early next. They are, as they learned from NMS, keeping all info close to the chest

[thin island]

Deep rock galactic?

[stable spindle]

Technically Remnant From The Ashes had randomized layouts for their worlds and also Digital Extremes' new game Soulframe is utilizing their tile-set tech from Warframe to make randomly generated dungeons in the undercity of Soulframe's map. It can work, so long as they have a set entrance/exit spot, anything between those two points can be random and still be fun to explore.

[lucid citrus]

Rephrasing that I guess I would say I like dungeon crawlers that have more of a focus on puzzle solving, and I don't know if you can do that in a satisfying way randomly.

[modern bobcat]

If late release = complete or at least a packed game i'll take it

We waitge

It took NMS nearly a decade to come this far though NMS has many different aspects and they had to tackle them individually

Considering this game is on a much smaller scale so there could be less variety in what can be done and more expanding in what remained of the aspects it has

When NMS has things like space combat, stations, freighters, building, planets and their content, planet combat etc

I think LNF would have less variety for better density and quality

[short python]

Light no fire has the opportunity to be an absolutely amazing sandbox/survival game with a RPG option in a true open world experience. It will all depend on building mechanics, interactive objects and decor. Hunting, gardening, fishing, cooking systems. Wildlife, taming abilities, crafting, exploring, and the list goes on.

[lucid citrus]

If I have to light a single fire in Light no Fire I swear to god I'm going to refund it v______v

Also what does "true open world experience" means, like I guess that implies there's a fake open world experience and I don't know what /that/ means either.

[short python]

True open world is scale size. So taking earth as an example, most gaming companies would have open world (meaning you can explore the world around them with some limitations. A closed world would be not being able to leave the game parameters placed by game designers. So if there is nothing meant to be in the desert, the game will now allow to go and explore that desert. True open world would be a to scale or size of earth. Meaning if it is 3000 miles from Boston to California.....Then it will take more than 3 minutes to get there.

[lucid citrus]

Hm, I've... honestly never heard realistic scale being the determiner here, my understanding of open world design has always been on the extent to which arbitrary constraints, like plot gating, restricting where you can go within the extant game world.

[short python]

that is my understanding of it, now this doesnt mean I may be wrong lol.

[austere lion]

i wonder if we will see a base part which has the same purpose as the cable in NMS....it would be....kinda vital for base builders....

[shrewd tusk]

The Binding of Isaac

[true ember]

Is it true this comes out tomorrow or just rumors?

[void palm]

It came out yesterday

[lucid citrus]

No clue when LNF is coming out nut Rumours came out in 1977 :^)

[patent furnace]

There'd probably be bigger announcements if true

[willow rain]

imagine if LNF had a way to light fire

[maiden pecan]

steam power 😄

[crystal willow]

There is going to be a way to light a fire. If there was none that would be just "no fire" instead of "light no fire"

It's important to give player a choice, whether to light the fire or not.

Player has to be given agenda over whether they want to listen to instructions given, to light no fire, or follow their curiosity and suffer consequences of whatever happens when a fire is lit

[verbal portal]

Love how 70% of all convos about LNF are about not lighting fires

Well anyway , 🔥

[modern bobcat]

You..

You lit a fire

You know what we do to those we light a fire

🍲

Get in

[dusk hatch]

Maybe a stupid question: Do we know what the ETA is on LNF?

[dusk hatch]

Maybe the fires are already burning and you don't need to light one.

[shut wadi]

How do we know if it is truely fire In a fantasy game but instead something that looks a lot like our version of fire

[proud osprey]

When is light no fire coming out

[patent furnace]

[proud osprey]

What does this even mean

[patent furnace]

No one knows. Only HG knows

[proud osprey]

Do we have a year yet

[patent furnace]

Sadly not

[proud osprey]

Ok

[shut wadi]

I don't know

[solemn cave]

i feel like it just means light no fire or else the bad guys will know where you are and rock up to your location ( lighting no fires will keep the bad guys away )

[cunning dock]

the trailer says light no fire is a "procedural earth", so i can't help but wonder if it'll be the same world for every player in which every player spawns at a different set of coordinates or it's differently generated for everyone

either way it's gonna be a great game

[tawdry jay]

Guys in light no fire will I be able to light a fire

[shut wadi]

I'm hoping it's the first and they just mean it was designed procedurally

Unless it's so many people on one version then so many people tied to another version when you first start

[thorn geode]

Soon™️

[static star]

if they dont give us another teaser soon im gonna light something on fire

safely with proper adlt supervision of course

[copper aurora]

Light No Fire
Dark Yes Water

[tender ravine]

is the new game gonna make you travel multi worlds this time?

or the map is just enourmous as always

[void palm]

One Earth Size Planet is what they’ve said

[tender ravine]

seems unlimited in a limited system i think

[karmic copper]

Is light no fire gonna be on switch or steam deck?

[modern bobcat]

Likely both why not

[hushed basalt]

I figured it out. Lighting fires bigger than a torch attracts extra-dimensional monstrosities that kill everyone in sight. Thus, light no freaking fire.

[void palm]

I highly doubt switch, switch 2 maybe, steam deck most definitely

[sick veldt]

Maybe the fire is the friends we made along the way

[void palm]

You mean the friends we light?
(This sounds funnier in Swedish because Tänder can mean both lighting something and arousing someone)

[sick veldt]

LMAO

Wow tell me why I just saw the trailer

Idk why I’m just barely seeing this now

And the game looks crazy good

It’s Crazy that’s it’s been a year already. Are they still gonna be updating no man sky? Or they’re gonna focus on the new game?

[opaque citrus]

They are still updateing NMS while makeing LNF at the same time. There is no signs that devs will stop working on nms.

[gritty cliff]

They are keeping LNF hype as low as possible. Don’t want a repeat of what happened when NMS came out.

[opaque citrus]

True. I think everything will happen at last moment before release. Trailers , release dates, preorders etc.

[proud osprey]

This game looks so peak, I need more info now, also it's the first true open world game if you think about it

Also I think it will be a predecessor to no man's sky in some way or another, the only contradiction to this is the animal people

[pastel cedar]

still over here lighting a fire

[tawdry otter]

tbh im hyped for this game

[opaque citrus]

Game is made on same engine. Things that devs learn while making LNF can seep to NMS.

I recomend to have fairly low expectations . It will be probably just NMS but in fantasy sauce . Maybe with better working mp.

[vital edge]

absolute mad lad. infinite ban immunity.

[radiant badger]

It should be more than just better working multiplayer

It should be GOOD multiplayer, not the NMS levels of desync.

[wispy rock]

@opaque citrus you have it backwards, what they've learnt in nms will be implemented in lnf they said

[opaque citrus]

It works both ways

[wispy rock]

Nms was first so not really lol

But yes fantasy nms I'm all for

[opaque citrus]

really yes. what they learned from NMS they used for LNF. then bringed back stuff from LNF to NMS.

[void palm]

They have definitely been using nms as a testing ground for LNF features
Why else would they add fishing?
Or the extremely improved terrain gen and graphics?

[opaque citrus]

And bugs in NMS can help find bugs in LNF since its same engine.

[shut wadi]

I'm so hyped

[storm gate]

Honestly I figured that out when they added the staff/outfits (which was before LNF was announced, so I was convinced the next game would be fantasy based :P)

[boreal snow]

My prediction: the next NMS update will be a full conversion to LNF.

[nova meteor]

my guess is that its a no since those are second after the bigger products receive first

[shut wadi]

I'm hoping for massive long story and a lot of grinding so always feel like there's something to do with purpose.
As I've finished no mans sky now and feel like I got no purpose anymore 😂

[uncut beacon]

I think we'll get light no fire news next, have a feeling they'll focus on that more now because honestly wtf will they add to nms next. No man's sky 2 perhaps 🤔

[uncut beacon]

I've a feeling it'll be kind of generic survival but with a lot of elements from no man's sky, but I hope there's definitely skill trees or some really cool gear to equip to make me want to grind without just being cosmetics

[shut wadi]

Yeah skill trees and all that would be nice and like end game stuff eventually

Ton of expeditions and all that good stuff as well

I'm just starting to get a bit bored of no mans now I love the game but all I'm doing now is just making bases or mining just to buy more stuff that doesn't even really make a difference at this point apart from just for the sake of playing still

And the exploration is kind of repetitive now with not much wow things to even find

Kind of just empty pretty planets

[sage pebble]

The way I see it Sean has a very special relationship with Geoff Keighley. I think we will get news at Summer Games Fest in June or the Game Awards in December. It seems not only fitting but how the progression has gone so far.

[shut wadi]

I've just been thinking imagine making a community village/town where each player has their own roles in the village

[sage pebble]

Or you pay to build the buildings but you have to have friends playing to populate the buildings and their progress determines what/how much you can buy and what/how much they contribute.

[shut wadi]

Also be able to rescue and recruit npcs that can work at in the building or town and then you can have them help gather resources or you can place them into building and give them roles like trader or baker, blacksmith etc

Then you would have a custom trade thing where you place items and set the prices for other players to buy your items, players can also contribute by selling resources and items for money that you can then turn into more items or sell again

[fallow onyx]

Anyone know the release date yet

[static star]

I lit a fire..... send help

[wicked tinsel]

I hope they change the movement system to be better than nms

[crystal willow]

Sean revealed it to me in a dream but also made me sign an NDA in the same dream, so I can't tell you

[fallow onyx]

I won't tell a soul

[proud osprey]

I think they will because in nms you can fly a ship outside of the planet but in this game there won't be that feature because it's medieval technology

[hollow leaf]

Diffuse yes water

[raw current]

What if I don’t have a soul

[hushed basalt]

Nobody has one. We are souls. No loophole for you.

[wanton arch]

I worry about the scale of the planet, it might not take long for it to be entirely charted

Though perhaps those concerns aren't as big as I think.

[lucid citrus]

If it's being procedurally generated it's probably... large

[wanton arch]

They did say it would be the size of the earth I believe

[wanton arch]

I guess it all depends on how quickly you can get around

[void palm]

A planet the size of the earth with maybe a few millions players would take forever to discover

[sick forum]

We haven't even charted all of IRL earth yet...

[wanton arch]

Ignoring the ocean, I thought we had with satellite tech and whatnot honestly, but it's relieving to hear nonetheless

Thanks for the level up gunter

[shut wadi]

Not that they want to public to know about

[shut wadi]

Does that mean it's different for everyone though ?

Or just to create it then it will be the same for everyone

[pine breach]

Just to create it, it will be the same for everyone.
It would be pretty hard to make a multiplayer game if the map was different for everybody

[shut wadi]

Yeah haha I was thinking that unless there will be servers with different variations of it

I'm just concerned about the details if it's all procedural unless they mean just for the basic stuff like Terrain and stuff

Really hope it's not just a giant empty world again

[wanton arch]

The trailer showed a civilization I believe so I don't think it'll be AS empty

Sidenote I hope there's looser rules on base protections just because A. raiding is fun in a game like this and B. I wanna see the ruins of long abandoned player bases

[shut wadi]

Yeah maybe bases should start to deteriorate after so long of not visiting back then eventually delete something like that

[lucid plank]

So even tho Light No Fire takes place on one planet it’s gonna be bigger?

Like bigger forests to explore and stuff

[crystal willow]

planets in NMs are really small, with LNF Hello Games implied they are aiming at a planet the size of our Earth
https://lightnofire.com/press

[lucid plank]

So LNF plans to be a open world the size of earth

[stone badge]

That's freaking HUGE!

[crystal willow]

It won't be less open then NMS, it's still procedurally generated space, it still is going to be big with stuff to see

[stone badge]

especially if it's not 70% ocean like our earth

[stone badge]

ngl that spikes my interest

[crystal willow]

yep, we still know nothing but looks promising

there is also LNF discord

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[stone badge]

yeah I saw that, but I won't delve into another discord anytime soon

I joined a few recently, can't be active everywhere

what do we know about the release of the game tho?

[lucid plank]

So we’re not merging the two servers into one giant one?

[crystal willow]

nope, two separate servers for two separate games

#light-no-fire channel exists bc we need a place to direct people who start going off topic (LNF still isnt NMS)

Tho it's run by our Admins

[lucid plank]

Alright, I’ll join it because man it looks amazing

[shut wadi]

That other light no fire discord is just spam at the moment it's annoying

[uneven shuttle]

There's no info, so nothing to do but shitpost in offtopic

[wanton arch]

Watch it be like the major update cycle

Hear nothing for a while, an emoji is tweeted, entire thing drops a day after

[lucid citrus]

Info's boring, I'd rather just get a single out-of-context screenshot and then rebuild my entire personality based on that v_v

[lucid citrus]

Man I do hope they can keep melee boosting in LNF is some capacity. I don't even know how that would work though ;P

[hybrid cobalt]

Will this be on switch?

[rain horizon]

no

switch 3

[void palm]

Most likely not although we don’t know yet

[hybrid cobalt]

If it's not, violence will occur /j

[mortal mantle]

Games gunna be shadow dropped sometime

[misty aurora]

Next year I bet

[proud osprey]

I'm going to light the fire

[crude grove]

They gonna drop it like Respawn dropped Apex

[wanton arch]

I wonder if light no fire will be connected to no man's sky

Lorewise

Obvious atlas parallels and the big giant thing in the trailer reminded me of the korvax

But how much is just a reference and how much is intentional lines to draw

[misty aurora]

I've heard it won't be

But I mean

Everything looks like NMS who are they tryna fool

There's some stuff that look like the knowledge pillars

Monolith design

[rustic hedge]

What even is the plot of LNF?

Do we know anything yet?

[misty aurora]

the entire world is a simulation

jk we don't know

[hybrid cobalt]

I will the light the fire (in multiple public buildings) if this game isn’t on switch

[orchid pecan]

Seen the teasers and it kinda just looks like a more realistic version of NMS without the “space exploration” part.

[dusk hatch]

Has HG developed the networking technology for LNF to have 100 players in the same area simultaneously without serious latency?

[shut wadi]

I'm sure fans managed to do similar with star citizen a while back so it's not too far fetched

[waxen pivot]

release date????

[weak zephyr]

2025.. probably

[dusk hatch]

I'm imagining what kind of crazy networking technology they must've wrapped inside of a turnbuckle label tied to a hoist named Patrick, to manage that level of complexity for a game like LNF and how this might tie into the larger picture of instancing, possibly guilds and player made villages/towns/cities/megalopoli

[void palm]

The future

[mortal mantle]

Soon

[visual oasis]

So

Arsonist path ingame?

Light everything on fire

[mint bobcat]

light no fire might have an underground area

[sick adder]

i hope LNF fills in some of the gaps in the lore of the No series

[proud osprey]

We beat the game then wake up, it was all a dream and now we have to do work a 9-5 desk job in finance

[proud osprey]

I'm guessing 2026

[sullen cargo]

What is the connection between lnf and nms

[sand wasp]

The developer

[opaque citrus]

The game engine

[rich scaffold]

I really hope lnf is actually a plot entirely disconnected from nms. I know it's a strange statement, but the meta plots are getting old. Whatever happened to "The good knight slays the evil dragon"?

[frail jetty]

I think it will be with references to NMS perhaps

[slow fossil]

Both have No in the title

[merry crest]

realities collide event you can get nms outfit appearance in light no fire

possibility

what if you can get staffs fron nms

[sullen cargo]

nothing else?

[weak zephyr]

Staffs, especially the atlas one would fit quite nicely

[crude grove]

When it’s ready

[fringe pawn]

We want light no fire! We want light no fire! We want light no fire! 😛

[proud osprey]

I will light the fire

[sullen cargo]

What's the point of lnf

[shut sorrel]

probably same as NMS
explore

[opaque citrus]

Exploration is main point of the game but we dont know nothing about the plot or main goals. We have only the trailer atm.

[cunning dock]

i think its basically set in a medieval setting as opposed to nms which is set in a universe with advanced technology, and lnf is on a single planet unlike nms, but both are procedurally generated

[arctic cradle]

Not to light a fire, that's for sure

[rose sundial]

I know this is probably already been said but I hope lnf does not have the same start nms did but I have faith they will learn from last time and give us a high quality game from launch

[gritty cliff]

Which is probably why there is a lot of radio silence from them since the trailer.

[bleak temple]

They will cuz they don't have ps breathing down their necks

[floral mist]

Well, I'm holding off on getting a new game hoping LNF will all of a sudden go gold!

[magic narwhal]

When do y'all think we'll get an update on this game(

?

[dire badge]

Is LNF gonna be on one server like NMS?

[proud osprey]

Probably not and nms isn't on just one server

[magic narwhal]

I think lnf will be a lot like nms just infinite worldgen and DRAGONS

[kind zenith]

Probably have way better combat

[sly kite]

wen hype

[modern plume]

It's sorta kinda mixed. But it's technically all a single shard. If you invite a friend to your world and they make changes to it, and then I go and visit your world, I will see those changes, and also see the players themselves if it's under the 32 player limit or whatever it is.

[modern plume]

I think it could very well be one server. Maybe not just one server on the dev side, cuz they would need more than one server to house potentially hundreds of thousands of players. But as far as the game world, it could very well just be one single shard that everybody's on, due to the sheer size of it being as big as the real Earth.

Like if you were to traverse it on foot in-game, it would take 25 days to traverse 3,000 miles.

[proud osprey]

Oh, interesting

[lofty fog]

Does anyone know what year Light No Fire will come to PlayStation 5?

[wanton arch]

We don't even know what year it's coming out

[lofty fog]

Thanks for letting me know.

[wanton arch]

Trust me homie I want more info too. One trailer then nothing for ages

[lofty fog]

Let's hope the 2nd trailer comes soon.

[hushed basalt]

🔥

[winged frigate]

Probally 2026

[gritty cliff]

That would be guess also

[lofty fog]

That would be good! 💡 🔥

[winged frigate]

Ye i think we probally gonna get another trailer at the game awards 2025 wy 2026 they stil gonna test new tec from light no fire on nms

[lofty fog]

👍

[hardy fulcrum]

light no fire

cuz it will never release

we have waited years

[thorn escarp]

I hope it has souls like combat. That would be crazy to see tbh

[vital oak]

When was lnf announced again?

[waxen quartz]

The summer of 2023 I think

[opaque citrus]

It was on TGA

8.12.2023

[wide coral]

Diablo 1 had procedural dungeons

Also, that trailer, wtf, are those baby skeletons?

[fringe pawn]

My guess is Winter 2025 will get more info/trailer

clearly with what happened to NMS and now their funding is set is stone with NMS

their not going to rush anything for this release

heck their prob going even work on future content before release so they can pump content out faster

[proud osprey]

Probably

[rancid thicket]

I've got thoughts on LNF/ NMS. Lots of thoughts. Buckle up.

Sean Murray said way back now when he first announced LNF, that he hopes its a game he can be updating 10 years from now ( that was 2 years ago btw).
NMS has had so many updates largely because of the way it launched, granted after a point it became more to do with genuine improvements, rather than fixes.
So that leads us to how will LNF launch?.
If it launches in broken state, then at this point the community have faith it will soon be fixed, although of course the media would have a field day with that.
If it launches perfect, then great, except is it?
To keep up player numbers after launch it's kinda got to be better than NMS to keep players from migrating back to NMS.
If it's that good though, how are they ever going to be updating 10 or even 8 years from now? ... and if they're not going to be updating it 8 years from now, then they need more games in the works to financially sustain themselves.
There's another problem as well though, as they keep bringing the technology from LNF into NMS, great for NMS, but how they are going to make LNF feel like a game that we haven't already seen. We've seen the water, clouds and landscape and experienced the graphical feel for LNF in NMS. We've seen the old ruins in the last expedition, similar to those In the LNF trailer and now we have a bone emoji, are we going to skeletons , similar to those in LNF trailer?
NMS almost feels like it might be morphing into LNF at this stage. So, how is LNF going to feel like such a fresh game?
LNF almost feels like a dangled carrot at this point, more to keep people invested in Hello Games and NMS, as they sit and wait endlessly for LNF launch details that seems to never get any closer.
I'm excited for LNF, I want it to be fantastic and not feel that I've seen most of the components of the game already in NMS. I hope that'll be the case....whenever it does finally launch.

[fringe pawn]

LNF is being worked on by a full time team.

The engine teams keep backporting features to NMS

were not only helping test said changes but were also getting said changes

clearly because how easy it seems them to backport features / content on their engine they have an amazing workflow better most game engines on the market.

NMS made them more money I forget what it was 2-3 years ago then any year before due to new sales of NMS itself...

They make money by continue to build an amazing game and bring in new blood to the point they even expanded their teams quite a bit overtime.

[rancid thicket]

Yes, I get all that, and I agree, and you kind of make my point. All of this is, as I said, great for NMS, and whilst NMS is doing great things is good for Hello Games too. My point is though, what happens when LNF launches, sells a ton! (And it will) but then very quickly players decide - we've seen all this already and numbers rapidly drop? That's the danger that I forsee.

[void palm]

They’ve been working on LNF for (I think) 5 years and we didn’t know anything

Just because they release/work on another game doesn’t mean we will notice a lack of updates in the previous once

[rancid thicket]

The most recent updates have come directly from LNF, and feels like they've peaked. We may be at the point of diminished returns now. Again though you make my point for me, that people's eyes may quickly turn away from LNF back to NMS

[sly kite]

Too hyped

[mortal mantle]

its been 8 years, they started development in 2018

2018: LNF's development begins, based on Sean's "five years" comment.
April 2019: Sean mentions LNF as a "big, ambitious, and silly" project with a small but passionate team.
July 2019: LNF shifts from a "small game" to something "crazy and ambitious" in early prototype stages.
September 2020: 3 of 26 devs work on the last campfire while the others work on LNF and No Man’s Sky.
September 2020: Sean clarifies that Hello Games is focused on both small and big projects, with LNF potentially benefiting from next-gen consoles.
September 2021: LNF still in "very early" development.
April 2022: LNF is described as a massive project, like No Man's Sky, but separate from its development.
December 2023: LNF is officially announced.

tldr this is the dev timeline and its been 8 years since its been in dev, heres everything everyone knows

[tawdry jay]

So what is the game actually gonna be classified as

[short beacon]

Yo chat what exactly IS Light No Fire? And should I play it?

Oh I see. It’s not actually out?

But what is it then?

[little frost]

Its a game in an earth-size procgen world that hg is currently working on. There's only a trailer so far and we have not get anymore news since.

In the pin there's a trailer about it, you can take a look 🙂

@short beacon

[fringe pawn]

I bet 100% not a MMO

the Term MMO just over used and even hated in many ways

it's will be what NMS but not scifi and rather one single large world and a RPG with magic and such

[short beacon]

Thanks Lad

[merry kernel]

Closer to what Tom Clancys the Division was. Or even No Mans sky would still be accurate, there will be instanced social hubs and biomes where (based on preference settings) you can either team up with friends or run into strangers on your quests. While it isnt MMO, there is potential for it to be played on a grander social scale with the proper preparation / organization. I just hope we get a release date soon! No Mans Sky has been a blast, but LNF has more of that story driven appeal that will keep things fresh or at least immersive / themed when I am doing Solo Play.

[tawdry jay]

Alr alr

[outer pollen]

when do you guys think this wil release roughly?

google says this year but pssssh

[hollow girder]

Would be interesting to have the full LNF game inside NMS. Coordinates point to a singular planet. Travel. Crash/die/whatever... intro into a fantasy undeveloped world.

Idk i played star ocean til the end of time a few months ago again.

Will wait and see.

[fringe pawn]

Either Announced at Summer Game Awards for Winter this year or maybe announce this Winter Game Awards for possible next year release. Just a random guess.

[void palm]

My guess is late 25-late 26 but we really don’t have anything to go off

[fringe pawn]

Yup I agree with that I assume the announcement or updates will come via either summer or winter game awards prob winter

[waxen quartz]

I hope we get a demo

[deft lagoon]

Any news?

[hasty kiln]

not yet. hold steadfast and believe in our lord who art in Guilford!

[deft lagoon]

Ty!

[magic narwhal]

want to ride a dragon…….

[merry kernel]

Techinally NMS is the alpha for the new mechanics so the timeframe may not be that far off! People were rumoring a February Launch for Next Year when the game was first announced which seems like a good idea. A beginning of the year launch to avoid all the hubub with AAA Fall / Winter Releases and initially launching with all the usual scheduled Indie Dev Bangers so the general gaming community Vibe will be a little more receptive to new games in my opinion. Works for me anyways since I am absolutely Stoked Beta Decay is launching in just a few months!!! ❤️

[outer pollen]

Nice, sometime next year is good, gives me time to build a new PC

[lost horizon]

Massive multiplayer in this game possibly? Or no.

[safe brook]

possibly. all we know is that it's kind of like nms but on one big planet. exactly how the multiplayer will work remains to be seen.

i mean, assuming a level of graphical complexity similar to nms, having (for example) 50 players on screen at one time might not be practical, but we'll see

if lnf is anywhere near as big as nms, then we're still going to have the issue (if you can call it an issue) of, "you can technically find other players in the wild with 0 prior coordination, but you're very unlikely to"

but i'd also bet that they're not really going for a "massively multiplayer" experience here. hello games are nothing if not ambitious, but that might be going a little too far.

[reef dawn]

Actually yes - that's a Good Question - will there be Totally random starting areas for all players (a wee bit complex & hard to store the data for).

Or set Cities or Areas that you appear within the region of (obviously appearing in the exact same spot as another player will be Bad/Scary/Distracting).

I think even the Portal idea may work but they will need to place limited players in each Instance to not get crowded & messy - it's like the top of an Escalator - some players will be standing around & not moving - getting in the way of others. A good way to make new friends maybe?

[safe brook]

actually I'm not sure totally random (or even semi-random) starting points would be that difficult for them to implement, since we already have that here in nms, with a few restrictions on which planet types and star systems you can start on

I would expect them to keep that, but it'd also be cool to start within some kind of NPC settlement that could serve as a tutorial area and an early "home" for players

but then, starting within a settlement would also delay the survival aspects of the game, since a player could explore reasonably close to their spawn point and not be in too much danger. I'm not sure I would prefer that over the way NMS just throws you straight into it—that method of starting and immediately having to find my footing hooked me right from the start. (I know for some people though, that was their least favorite part of the game—hopefully LNF will inherit NMS' in-depth difficulty settings to accommodate different kinds of players.

[void palm]

@safe brook @reef dawn @lost horizon
On the Light No Fire Steam page it only mentions Singleplayer and Online Co-Op in the tags, nothing about potentially being an MMO.

[storm gate]

So, am I the only one thinking that the new floating relic creatures in the “Relics” update to NMS are some sort of Earth Elemental creature that’s been carried over from LNF development? Seems like an awful lot of animation detail + melee combat animation (something not really not extensively found in NMS) for it to just be an NMS update NPC…

[foggy geyser]

I wish to light every fire

I started the fire!

[void palm]

Most definitely
I feel like the last 3-5 updates have mostly been LNF testing grounds

[hollow plinth]

Fr

Also if it is procedurally generated wouldn't that mean that world is endless?🤨

But it says it takes place on a single planet if I read right

[outer pollen]

maybe it's procedurally generated until we uncover the whole planet

which could take years

if it is earth size

I mean we haven't even fully uncovered all of earth

[hollow plinth]

Fair point

[radiant idol]

I have a sneaking theory that NMS will allow players to visit LNF's planet or interact in some way. I firmly believe it. With the way they are updating and tying things in visually. Oh yeah

[hollow plinth]

I'd really love that

[safe brook]

if currency in lnf is not called "shmeckels" then we riot

[final narwhal]

Nah

[hollow leaf]

Has game been released yet

The extinguish yes water

[steep sky]

still only gotten the announcement trailer in what, i think it was 2023

[radiant idol]

Why Nah? We've seen even do something similiar. Or try to. I believe NMS and LNF have a deeper connection that we think. Why would they re-create new tech that they have? They just refine parameters, etc.

[crystal willow]

Nah

Definitely Nah

Practical, logistical, programming Nah

And it would be boring if the story of LNF is just another round of the same as in NMS

[modern plume]

This would be unbelievably awesome. Even if they didn't have plans for this originally, they could attempt it based on our feedback

[short beacon]

cant wait for this to release

[hushed basalt]

You have to take into account that this would not only be a improbability to code, it would SORELY limit the creative imaginings of LNF. Just from a Lore perspective this is an impossibility. The only way these two universes could ever be connected is if LNF takes place in the Atlas simulation Pre-system-collapse, when there were a variety of races across the simulated universes, and not just 3. ||OR if LNF takes place after the 16th second (or 19th second) of the simulation crash, and is the result of a massive reboot right back to the beginning of the Atlas' programming.||

[radiant idol]

See this is where time and space can become somethig unique in a game?

[hushed basalt]

Not really, though I have noticed that the infinite scope of NMS has a tendency to ignite possibilities in people's minds. Every possible scenario they can cook up in their brains or that they've seen in other games is something they want nms to imitate or integrate. Honestly id prefer LNF not suffer the weight of that same anchor and be allowed to be its own game.

[twilit talon]

Theres no release date info yet right?

Gameoneer says Dec 31st 2025

[little frost]

We do not have any announcement nor a known release date other than trailer. Don't trust anything you seen from internet yea

[twilit talon]

Figured, just wanted to confirm thanks!

[cinder notch]

Dec 31st 202||9||

[void palm]

December 32nd actually

[lofty fog]

I hope another Light No Fire trailer drops soon.

[proud osprey]

I was hoping for one in the Nintendo direct

[proud marten]

Has there been anymore footage of this game yet other than the trailer? I wish Hello Games would update us soon 😛

[proud marten]

Was just thinking the same thing.. Like even more information would be great

[dusk hatch]

I wonder if LNF will have a narrative perspective exploring the plot of NMS from outside of the immediate reach of the Atlas

I was looking at the story of Nightfall, another Isaac Asimov short story about the cyclical nature of society and fear on the brink of destruction that are observing the approaching end of their civilization when an eclipse begins. Because the people have always lived in light without darkness, It posits civilization would collapse in 15 minutes on the planet because of the fear people have of the dark.

15/15/15

Are we the beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning?

[thorn cedar]

I like to think that one of the ruins Planet is the one where the story of LNF happened

[ocean flicker]

I think we need an ARG for the release of LNF.

[shut wadi]

Imagine if mounts fly like this
https://youtu.be/k75TIPXIfX0?si=9sJ0ElJQUr6IlN8S

[west locust]

would the planet in light no fire be bigger than no man sky planets or would they be on par with them?

[wanton arch]

Bigger

[green gorge]

They probably did the gas giant stuff because of the knowledge they got from the LNF planet size

[sand wasp]

Planets in NMS are about the size of .01 percent of the earth.

LNF is using an earth sized planet, it's far bigger than you think

[silk crown]

Do you think people will try and make it all the way across the planet and do an around the world trip? And make it a challenge?

[sand wasp]

Yes for sure

[plucky monolith]

Have they mentioned any release year yet?

Because I'm assuming it's not coming this year

Or else they'd have said something

2026/27 maybe?

[orchid pecan]

Exploring should be way better than NMS.

[sand wasp]

Tbh, I think the size will work against them for some players. A true earth sized planet is likely going to have vast areas of nothing much

Personally, I'm looking forward to wandering

[gentle grotto]

I am eagerly waiting to play LNF. My biggest worry is that societal groups will form and “bully” casual solo players into feeling they need to align with such a group to progress.

[sleek linden]

My guys and I plan to build a whole city man and I wouldn't dream of such. I want everyone to enjoy the game in their own way. That being said I can see other groups potentially being that way and that does bother me.

But rest assured not all societal groups are gonna behave that way

[hollow girder]

😐

[short beacon]

im sure someone will make a group to fight the other people who try to bully others into working for them just bound to happen

anyone know if LNF is going to be cross platform right away or if its going to be later down the line or not at all?

[crystal willow]

So far it wasn't announced on any platform, just available to be wishlisted on Steam

[plucky monolith]

Seems to me like they just went "hey btw we're making a new game don't expect it anytime soon BYE" and left us to wonder how it'll be

I'm very surprised their dedication to NMS continues so many years later, you'd think they would stop making updates and focus everything on LNF but no

[cerulean robin]

I'm wondering if when you create a character if you'll spawn randomly in the world or if there will be established loading points.

[opaque citrus]

For now better to expect nms in skyrim sauce and keep expectations low.

[gentle sparrow]

I mean; I'll be happy with that; that doesn't feel like low expectations...

Though TBF, I enjoyed NMS on release. Might be an outlier position

[oblique olive]

Magic in nms with dragons.... May be a GOTY

[lofty fog]

@rotund rain There are skeletons in the trailer. I wonder if we will be fighting the skeletons or if the skeletons are a playable character?

[rotund rain]

i think it will be both

i think

[uneven shuttle]

Nexromancer desire increasing

[lofty fog]

@rotund rain Also, the game trailer makes me think the game will be like a realistic version of Minecraft.

[opaque citrus]

I expect NMS but in skyrim sauce.

[thick pulsar]

Not to say, I want everything to be like dragons dogma, but I hope they’re a lot of aspects like dragons dogma

[shut wadi]

I'm just exited to ride the ground mounts they look so fluid movement wise unlike no mans sky janky animations and movements

[vague stratus]

I wanna ride a pig while holding a fishing pole with a carrot at the end of it.

[winged dragon]

fly it off a cliff

[safe brook]

i wanna ride a dragon, man. i want it so bad.

[night ibex]

Bro light no fire sounds fire when is it coming out

[crystal willow]

We don't know

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183103410979995728/1361187459513454633/Screenshot_20250414_055253_Chrome.jpg?ex=6805c11b&is=68046f9b&hm=ae404e160771c59379290078775382276d8eee48a24385bef1ad244199c9b295&

[night ibex]

Ohh so prob in like 2027 or stuff like that

[crystal willow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sudden goblet]

If that's your biggest worry, you've lived an exceedingly care-free life.

[gritty cliff]

Who knows they might do a cold drop like Bethesda did. lol

[cinder notch]

Same day as TES6 and GTA6

[quick basalt]

Light all the fires.

[hard parcel]

Can you set up camps?(never played LNF. or is it still in development? )

[gentle sparrow]

Not yet released

[hard parcel]

ah, ok, still in development, thanks, mate

[sudden steeple]

I advise to try the only detective story in the current world of Isaac Asimov:
A whiff of death
Because it is a nice story and far from known.

[reef dawn]

So many games still coming out this year - if they are finished (take your Time team get it finished before release).

Will they decide that GTA6 or Dune are too big to go up against in their months - or just accept We fans will make it a good release response anyways?

Hoping pre End Of Year - BUT if next year is needed to Bake it to perfection take as long as you need HG.

[cinder notch]

Hoping for 2029

[median falcon]

Did Sean post a photo?

I guess not

Someone said so on Fb

And showed a photo

I assume this is BS

Modified NMS post I guess

[sand wasp]

Size glitched some fossils

[foggy geyser]

Looks like a skeleton of the giants in ERing

[neat shadow]

Can't wait to see the game

[tribal cairn]

Given the size of the world I imagine they'll just drop us in alone or as a co-op group and then their will be an equivalent to the portal network that will allow us to access hub areas or the "cities" that players develop and congregate around. If their marketing isn't misleading the general idea will be for us to slowly develop this planet over the course of a decade or more as they drop content and we build our accounts, so naturally player built civilizations will emerge at logical places like with the galactic cores in NMS.

[harsh lynx]

Guys is it possible to inform us about the progress of the game without giving us a exact date, like making a loading icon or something like that to get at least a bit of a feeling about how long we have to wait?

[void palm]

!officialdiscord

[split meteor]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

The game's developer HelloGames.org links to our Discord, officially acknowledging it as the No Man's Sky Discord (https://discord.gg/nomanssky). However, the server is 100% run by community volunteers...

[void palm]

This is:
#1 not a suggestions channel
#2 not a place we even know 100% that the devs look in
#3 not zendesk

If you want to actually suggest something you can go to

!hg

[split meteor]

Submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[harsh lynx]

ok @void palm sorry, didnt want to hurt your feelings

but thanks for the info

[sudden steeple]

I love this idea from the official LNF discord:

NMS trailer release date: 12/08/2013
LNF trailer release date: 12/08/2023

NMS official release: 08/09/2016
LNF: i think is likely to be released on 08/09/2026

[cinder notch]

Poetic

[wind token]

Will light no fire be on PS4... Please be on PS4 🥺

[opaque citrus]

Low chances.

[hard matrix]

Unlikely it will be on ps4. Looks like it might not release til next year or later.

The later the release year, the less likely it will be on old gen consoles.

[little frost]

@sudden steeple Would like to remind you that promoting jailbreaking, is an activities deemed illegal according to community guideline and should not be talked about here.

[sudden steeple]

Ok sorry, I didn't know. I was only trying to find a possible way to run light no fire on a PS4 regardless of the release date and when this device would otherwise already be considered obsolete.

I guess I will personally play it on the future Steam Home Console if as I think it will release in 09/2026

[cinder notch]

You’re gonna have a hard time running a game on ps4 that won’t come out until 2028

[sudden steeple]

Can we stream another console or a computer from the PS4 ?

[cinder notch]

Unlikely

[slow fossil]

That would involve doing the aforementioned illegal thing the last person got a verbal warn for

[neat shadow]

It's gonna be on steam, PS5 series s/x

Not on old gen

[sudden steeple]

Maybe on newer gen too (not yet released ones) if it is delayed enough.

[cinder notch]

Will run on PS7

[waxen pivot]

is there a light no fire discord?

[crystal willow]

Yes, there is

!lnflink @waxen pivot

[split meteor]

@waxen pivot https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[waxen pivot]

thanks bro, never clicked with NMS but im super hyped for Light No Fire

[neat bear]

You can remote play from PS5 on a PS4

But then you might as well just play on a PS5

But the time LNF comes out PS5 might have gone up/down in price

[sudden steeple]

On this Discord you will find every single piece of information known about Light No Fire so far

Below this sentence too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQem4Z6ioQ

[opaque snow]

[cinder notch]

[balmy elk]

Hello

Is there early access testing to the game ?

[hollow plinth]

How'd you do that

Oh wait ur a bot

Coddammit

[split meteor]

Correct, I'm a bot. Wenk!

[lucid plank]

I wonder if the plants we will play on in LNF will be randomly named

[sand wasp]

It's one planet

[sudden steeple]

A remote island can have a unique ecosystem with unique animals and plants, same with a distant continent

[past tendon]

Gunter

[cinder notch]

I wonder if the planet will be randomly named

[sand wasp]

Maybe!

Etahagai Alpha

[foggy geyser]

Well its not 4546B

[mortal grove]

definetally not LV-426

[foggy geyser]

👽

[foggy geyser]

Light every fire

[tawdry jay]

Wait really?

[foggy geyser]

yea I like fire, so, light every

[tawdry jay]

You got it boss

[hollow girder]

LNF is a horror game. Got it.

[hard parcel]

in LNF, I'd be a fox and live in the trees man, I'm staying away from the imperial maniacs, i am not coming down from my tree until the smoke of empires dies down, many people will agree with me there

[shut wadi]

I'm gonna be that travelling merchant from minecraft

[void palm]

(That emoji was literally made for me btw)

[sudden steeple]

I intend to be a mix of crafter and explorer to be able to do both community and solo content. Anyway, if such a thing exists in the game.

[cinder notch]

Will we get blackfrost before LNF?

[quick basalt]

@dusty nest this is the new game

[sharp yacht]

I think we'll get lnf before GTA 6

[cinder notch]

No chance

Lambo Calrissian

[sudden steeple]

I am pretty sure we'll get lnf before GTA 7

[blazing coral]

Is there a date for this yet?

[fleet imp]

nope

[blazing coral]

Damn ight

[tawdry jay]

I’m gonna light EVERY fire

[dense token]

Arson

[opaque citrus]

[blazing coral]

💯

[short beacon]

Elder Scrolls VI, as well.

[dry flint]

Do they have any ETA for LNF?

okay

[void palm]

Between 1 day and 3 billion years

[gritty ice]

LNF TOMMORROW?????

[sudden steeple]

I still love this idea from the official LNF discord:

NMS trailer release date: 12/08/2013
LNF trailer release date: 12/08/2023

NMS official release: 08/09/2016
LNF official release: 08/09/2026

[dry flint]

Recurring number in LNF: 26

[waxen quartz]

Oh so that's what the 16 stands for

Nice!

[opaque citrus]

[manic shadow]

I honestly expect LNF to launch before GTA6, they might do a shadow launch by the end of the year, so they can sell units before the big titan is out

[sudden steeple]

Are GTA 6 players and potential LNF players really the same ?

[manic shadow]

I find a bad decision launch close to gta, even if the games are very different, because all of the critics and youtubers will be giving gta their full attention, so any video, critic, or review that gets out will possibly be ignored because of it

And honestly, following the magnitude of LNF, is not a good deal to be ignored because of GTA
They will either launch this year, and have some months to gather their playerbase, or launch next year, by the end of the year, so the GTA hype already passed

[wind breach]

When gta comes out it’s going to break the internet.. rockstar already knows this…

I guarantee we won’t see any games from anyone for a few months after that releases 😂

[manic shadow]

Is simply not a good business decision to launch close to gta lmao

[vivid hearth]

i wouldn't bet a red penny on it but I almost wonder if we'll see news at Summer Games Fest then a launch within two weeks after that

HG surely wasn't expecting their new game to be the 7th most wishlisted game on steam

that's just on steam, too

who knows what the numbers will reach once the Xbox and Playstation pages are up

i don't have img perms so just pretend the star wars "200,000 units are ready, with a million more well on the way" meme is here

[steep gyro]

no man's sky players are Way smarter And actually create and make things instead of just pew pew pew all the time in GTA

[dusk pawn]

does anyone expect LNF to be holistically different that NMS?? it seems the same game in a new wrapper...at least to me

[sudden steeple]

They would not take so much time to make it if it really was the case. A bland redesign of a game like Atlas did with Ark takes little time to produce.

[dusk pawn]

i wait with baited breath.. what ever that statement ever meant..lol.. I will indeed give LNF a run with hope and some of the cynical scrbbed off ..

[quick basalt]

Yes.

I'm excited for both.

[thick pulsar]

Hell yeah! I’m hoping you can climb attack monsters in LNF

[foggy geyser]

Light every fire!

🔥

[lapis mantle]

🔥

[waxen quartz]

Light our fire with some news at Summer Fest Sean Murray!

[hollow girder]

SoTC vibes

[thick pulsar]

Same thing with dragon’s dogma

[hollow girder]

Yes!

[modern steppe]

"Beacon"?!?

https://youtu.be/i6LGJ7evrAg?feature=shared

[gusty hound]

Yes

Also the LNF account reposted the bacon

So i hope for something this week

🔥

[sudden steeple]

The Summer Game Fest is in 5 days.

[trail geyser]

Is LNF on gamepass

anyone know

[shut sorrel]

Games not even out

[opaque citrus]

We dont have even officialy confimed release date, pc reqirements, or release platforms ( probably curent gen consoles +pc )

[sudden steeple]

Actually every single game account Sean Murray own reposted the bacon, including the LNF one...
But we will see on the Game Fest

[misty egret]

Does anyone think that lnf will be harder because we won't have the tech we have in No Man's Sky? Like, how will we survive storms, or underwater?