battlefield-labs-discussion

[glad trench]

[livid gorge]

4-6pm

[rugged seal]

[livid gorge]

🤪

[wary lichen]

Are they still doing the 2042 class system without weapon lock

[weak obsidian]

I don't see any specialists so ...

[atomic marten]

No they doing the bf 3/4 class system without wep lock

Actually also not entirely true

[wary lichen]

Without weapon lock, aight bet not worth looking into 6 yet

[weak obsidian]

how?

gadget locking is far more impactful than weapon locks

[glad trench]

because invincible medic snipers /s

[wary lichen]

Classes being able to use any weapon isn't battlefield

So it isn't in my library

[weak obsidian]

guys... don't tell them about the universal class weapons in 3 and 4...

[wary lichen]

Like I wouldn't know about that jfc lmao

[weak obsidian]

so what's exactly the difference between that and unlocked weapons

[wary lichen]

Radio spawn beacons with assault rifles.
Medics with belt fed lmg's
Medics with sniper rifles

[atomic marten]

Support at the edge of the map with mortar, supply crate, aps and a sniper rifle going to be peak gameplay /s

[glad trench]

BC2... medics with LMGs

[weak obsidian]

recons in BF4 had carbines
LMGs are the signature weapon for support AKA medic in 6
not a big deal, they would contribute nothing to the team anyways

[wary lichen]

Crazy that you do not see the problem with "hurr durr you can use anything but a recon can hold his breath 10% longer than the rest haha!"

[weak obsidian]

it's really not that big of a deal, the lines were blurred by univeral weapons in 3 and 4

[glad trench]

it's not a problem in 2042

[wary lichen]

2042 is a problem

[glad trench]

not because of the weapon system

[wary lichen]

It's a major contributing factor

[weak obsidian]

not at all

[wary lichen]

You take away the essence of the original games

[glad trench]

no it's not, the game plays fine and like most BF games do

bad maps and a sterile atmosphere kill the vibe

[wary lichen]

Wrong on so many levels, but I'll vote with my wallet and remain on 4

[rugged seal]

More sniper examples!!!

[weak obsidian]

so there's no actual objective analysis here? just vibes based arguments

the average battlefield player really is a dimwit

[glad trench]

it's always the BF4 dads with heaps of the 'tism that complain about class locked weapons and can never make an actual argument

like we get it, it's the only BF you have really played but then try to tell everyone what is and isn't BF

[rugged seal]

The examples are always completely hypothetical because the things they say aren't issues in the game where its already possible

[wary lichen]

Good on ya mate, played every single one (except hardline) up until 2042.

Every single one had class based weapons locks.

[glad trench]

cool, it's 2025, not 2013 things change and evolve

[wary lichen]

Exactly, go compare the precious titles to your current piece of hot garbage

[glad trench]

want me to make the argument that being able to pick any weapon "isn't BF" because 1942 every class was locked to 1 primary

[wary lichen]

Go ahead, being purposely obtuse is all you can manage

[glad trench]

nope, using you're own logic

[wary lichen]

Your*
And no

[glad trench]

because something existed before this, that is what makes it "Battlefield"

no changes, ever

[wary lichen]

It's fine that you don't get it.

[glad trench]

No I get it, continue being like the rest of BF4 'tists

[ruby merlin]

Objectively speaking 2042s none class locked guns was the least of what made the game garbage

[weak obsidian]

you're is right

[glad trench]

it's not

[weak obsidian]

oh missed the using 💀

[weak obsidian]

everything from 2042 is actually bad

that game had NO good ideas

[glad trench]

I wonder when washed up older millenials will understand video games aren't designed around their decade old+ taste anymore

[ruby merlin]

Lol

[atomic marten]

(Your is posessive, you're is you are)

[ruby merlin]

Some reasons why no class locked guns might be good.

1. More Player Freedom

Letting players equip any gun with any class gives them full control over their loadouts.

It caters to different playstyles — e.g., a Recon player who prefers SMGs over sniper rifles can still fulfill the spotting role without being forced into long-range combat.

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✅ 2. Supports More Flexible Gameplay

Not being locked to class-specific weapons allows players to adapt to different situations.

Example: If your team lacks close-quarters presence but you’re playing Engineer, you could still run a shotgun or SMG to help push objectives.

This is especially useful in large-scale modes like Conquest where the battlefield constantly changes.

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✅ 3. Reduces Frustration

Some players find it frustrating to be locked into a gun they don’t enjoy just because of their class.

Removing class locks removes that friction, making the game more enjoyable for casual players.

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✅ 4. Encourages Experimentation

Players can experiment with combinations that wouldn’t be possible under class locks.

Example: Using a long-range DMR with a Support role, or pairing high-skill weapons with underused gadgets.

This can lead to creative, fun, or even niche playstyles.

✅ 6. Doesn't Necessarily Kill Team Play

Even without class-locked guns, gadgets and abilities can still maintain role identity.

A medic is still a medic if they’re reviving and healing — regardless of whether they use an SMG or an AR.

Teamwork isn’t just about guns — it’s about objectives, communication, and gadgets.

[weak obsidian]

ironically 2042's scoreboard turned out to be the best

[ruby merlin]

Your gay (meaning you are being possessed by gay)

Jk

[glad trench]

imo, 2042 battlepass wasn't bad. Missions to level it up where way better than the BFV weekly assignments

[weak obsidian]

I like how the progression was transparent

[glad trench]

cosmetic shop was good (except Sundance/Mckay getting like 80% of the skins)

[wary lichen]

Nice opinion did chatgpt give it to you

[ruby merlin]

Not chatgpt

[weak obsidian]

I like the class gadgets

[ruby merlin]

I typed that up, its a copy and paste I did awhile ago.

[minor linden]

... That's not even correct

They'd possess a gay

[weak obsidian]

crazy in the older games you can just around with no gadgets 💀

[glad trench]

some of the specialist gadgets were good additions to the game

blasco etc

[ruby merlin]

Scheiße

[weak obsidian]

I'm surprised we're not getting something similar in 6

[ruby merlin]

Also its not black and white.

There are pro and cons to no class locked guns

[glad trench]

i'm pretty sure there is a jammer, at least one was datamined I think

[ruby merlin]

Just as the same as class locked

In my opinion I dont care if there is class locked or not. Both have pros and cons

[wary lichen]

All your points are invalid.

1.Recons weren't range locked due to being able to use the universal weapons like carbines or shotguns

2. Again engineers could use cqb weapons like shotguns

3. Literally nobody complained about that.

4. You could already use a dmr as support.

????

[ruby merlin]

Ok then what do you complain about

[glad trench]

So you're saying open weapons don't cause problems?

[ruby merlin]

Battlefield 4s class locked was so tiny

Every class has carbines lmao.

[ruby merlin]

Considering how battlefield 4 all classes had carbines not really.

[wary lichen]

Zeethos has trouble grasping this but having certain weapon types locked to a class has always been part of the battlefield identity

[ruby merlin]

And objectively speaking carbines and Assualt rifles are better for general use then LMG, DMR, Snipers, and pdws

[glad trench]

replying to Orca, because he's determined to argue against his own point

[ruby merlin]

Oh, im tweaking.

[wary lichen]

Give a recon an ak5c, no problem.

Give that same recon an aek, different animal

[glad trench]

and how "class locked" weapons is just hurr durr vibes based because the thought of a medic using a sniper ruins their immersion or some shit

[ruby merlin]

Ok but battlefield 4 had a minimal one and yet you dont complain.

Having no class locked isnt much of a difference

[wary lichen]

👆

[glad trench]

even though in their favorite game the medic could just use a DMR

[ruby merlin]

Aek isnt much different from ak5c.

[wary lichen]

Holy shit lmao

[ruby merlin]

Aek has high rpm, lower stablity and accuracy💀💀💀

[wary lichen]

That ends the entire argument right here. You have not played 3 or 4

[ruby merlin]

Its a glorified carbine really. Faster firing gun for closer encounters💀

[ruby merlin]

Yes I have

[wary lichen]

Pressing X

[weak obsidian]

I mean a recon can't self sustain as hard as an assault so whatever

[wary lichen]

Goodbye lmao this is as always, useless

[ruby merlin]

You realize carbines are just ars but mostly every stat is just a little lower right?

[weak obsidian]

also the AEK sucks outside of cqc

[weak obsidian]

defeated male leaves the chat

[atomic marten]

Recon with an smg tugs, c4 and sensor balls is an absolute menace in cqb

[rugged seal]

By his logic it wouldn't be worth it to use any other class just because the aek is so OP

[wary lichen]

Head held high, wouldn't worry about some kids

[ruby merlin]

Woah, almost as if that problem is present in a lot of the games!!

Majority choosing assualt for objectively the best guns in the game!!!!

[weak obsidian]

unc in the chat 💔 🥀

[ruby merlin]

Differing beleifs/opinions≠kids

The fact you are labeling us as such just over different game opinions is wild work.

[wary lichen]

17 year old spotted

[ruby merlin]

Bros been using discord since 2017, I doubt they are a kid 😐

[weak obsidian]

nope

[atomic marten]

Having totally no restrictions on who can use what wrapons just makes it a bit harder to balance everything and also creates more overlap between classes which can be a good thing but also a bad thing

[spare wigeon]

.

[minor linden]

Imo it should go back to HL's style

Class + Faction locked weapons with nearly every class having some sort of an AR-adjacent gun

Idrc too much tho. Class locked guns are far less important than fixing the terrible class balancing and abysmal spotting

[oblique lintel]

When is next pc/uk playtest?

[oak condor]

vince zampella'a entire portfolio is call of duty and things that look a lot like contemporary cod games once you scratch off the paint, temper your expectations accordingly

[faint pivot]

Personally, I don’t like The new UI in the new leaks, looks like call of duty with soldiers sitting on boxes and shit and that test range is lame as hell, hopefully thats a place holder cause wtfff happened to open test range with vehicles to practice with and different moving targets etc

[weak obsidian]

the game have gun...look like call of duty .... Yucky ...

[gleaming dagger]

it wont happen if people just leak it all the time, so they move the date

[fresh moat]

I wonder if DICE is rotating the invitations, so that if you've already received one for playtest, then you won't receive another one (unless you are part of the initial inner circle)

That would certainly be fair of course.

[feral garden]

If you already received one you won't receive another.

[glad trench]

Nah didn’t you know Apex Legends is just CoD

[glad trench]

Another BFdad dying in the fields of valor (discord)

[gleaming dagger]

i thought they revoke it ?

[mild girder]

that was for the Stress Test

[lilac nacelle]

mabye change your playtest preferences on the EA page somewhere

[feral garden]

There is no way to change if youve already been invited

[mild girder]

You can give me that access

[oak owl]

Gotcha Thank you

[oak owl]

lol I have a ps5, just wanted to try it on pc 😏

[mild girder]

Well, i think you wont be able to play it tho

[oak owl]

you wish 🤣

[mild girder]

Buddy, you broke the NDA and i bet you are that smart, that you use the same Username on the PS as on Discord/Twitch

[soft flame]

Xbox version still hasn't been updated yet

[mild girder]

Bro, how do these people always get selected

[soft flame]

have u guys get the email?

[mild girder]

NDA buddy

[true schooner]

im sure you can talk of labs existence, not everyone in here has signed it or agreed either

[nimble bridge]

This tbh

[nimble bridge]

BF4 class system: 🤮
BF1-V class system: 🥰

#NoUniversals

[feral garden]

Relevance doesn't matter a lot of the time. Apex Legends released mid BR hype and became one of EAs top performing games ever, with a consistent and high player base. It also absolutely took players from other BRs like PUBG and Fortnite. The same way WZ took players from all of these when it released a year later.

[rotund pier]

What

[nimble bridge]

BRs were new and exciting when those games came out, now people just roll their eyes when they see a BR announcement even when that BR is actually kinda interesting, happened with Splitgate 2, it's the most interesting BR to come out in years with it's map design and respawn system imo but not sure if it became that successful

[feral garden]

People will play a good, free BR.

[nimble bridge]

BF1 and BFV had rigid class locked weapons with no universals, only assault could use assault DMRs, only recon could use recon DMRs which had different damage models, only medic could use SMGs etc.

[nimble bridge]

They will go back to Apex or Warzone whenever those games gets updates though and bring stuff they asked for, people still plays those games due to time and money investment they've made already, kinda like how you can't dethrone WoW or FF14 in MMO space, people already spent their time and money on those games for so long so you can't really convince them to drop their game in favor of new game even if that game is really good

[gleaming dagger]

not entirely true

[nimble bridge]

Gauntlet mode could become successful though if they are still doing that imo. There is only one alternative in that game style and that alternative has lost so many of it's players due to inaccessibility. BF can make it more accessible and could add a nice competitive aspect to BF which wasn't done before.

[rotund pier]

Cuz there were like 4 weapons

[nimble bridge]

There are like 70 weapons in them now

[lilac nacelle]

pls share some info about bf6, we are starving

[vocal axle]

Can’t or you’ll get a chat time out

[nimble bridge]

It has guns and vehicles 🤯

[turbid jasper]

Is it too late to sign up?

[severe anvil]

Nope, you can still sign up. Participation is not guaranteed though. https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[turbid jasper]

Alright thank ya kindly

[abstract path]

Well, more like "not guaranteed" it's forbidden for South American people.

[ruby shell]

Is there any plan to expand bflabs the inner circle one?

[severe anvil]

We're adding more people at every play test. It's still going to be a closed test for the time being though, as we have a lot of parameters that we're testing, including server stability, that we can't do by just opening it up to the public.

[ruby merlin]

Yall need to drop the nda, mostly everything has been leaked and every single playtest is leaked 😭

[severe anvil]

Now imagine how bad that'd be if there wasn't a NDA.

[ruby merlin]

Yeah it'd be worse but every time there's leaks

Now the data mining even without nda isnt allowed yes. But the gameplay leaks always happen lol

[nimble bridge]

Please add spread to the game, like BF3/4 spread 😭

[severe anvil]

Yep, that's the risk of doing these tests. We are getting good data and feedback, so they're worth it for now.

[nimble bridge]

Remove suppression, remove recoil, add spread 😛

[dry grotto]

I never got bfl since it stared😭

[cobalt sedge]

Can't speak for others but I appreciate your efforts. Tks.

[vast orbit]

What's the thought behind adding BR again after the first time it didn't work out? Genuine question, no snark.

Were there separate tests/polls?

[light isle]

Hello everyone

[severe anvil]

Please make sure that you're not discussing any unreleased and not announced topics as facts. There have been no announcements made and anything online is just speculation. Thanks.

[vast orbit]

My bad, I didn't know. Multiple gaming sources are reporting it so I assumed it was out somewhere and official. Sorry!

[glad trench]

Because a free BR is a great way to bring people into an fps franchise in this day and age and despite what people in here think, tons of people play them and they print money.

Firestorm was a good BR locked behind a paywall (BFV) when all of its competitors were f2p

[vast orbit]

Fair, I forgot about the free aspect. Thanks for the perspective!

[cedar flax]

I signed up for labs last week, do I get an invite? I got an Xbox and l’m testing it at home by the way.

[mossy marten]

No email invite = no Labs testing
Invites are sent out from a random pool of individuals who expressed interest in Labs testing

[sturdy steppe]

When the PUBG went F2P

[woeful sluice]

We're not getting a reveal in June are we. This is so unusual. July would be a weird time to reveal a game. COD had August reveals so maybe we'll get the reveal very late like those.

[soft flame]

@severe anvil Xbox version still hasn't been updated yet,what's the matter?

[severe anvil]

As anything with the Battlfield Labs test, I have no information in the public Discord. 🙂

[kindred crest]

Probably asked a million times already but I’ve been able to play the last two playtests on the same invite is that normal ? Ps5 if that matters

[vocal axle]

Is it true that people selected for the stress test last month aren’t eligible for future tests

[severe anvil]

Correct. If you've not been invited to the full Labs test you did only get to participate in the stress test.

[glad trench]

Y’all need to stop overthinking this

Read the fucking email man

And thousands of other testers have gotten the email and haven’t had a problem

[mossy marten]

[tall urchin]

Only the sharpest of minds selected, as per usual

[severe anvil]

The playtest is under NDA. Please make sure to read the instructions you received thoroughly. Discussing Labs test on the public Discord is a violation of the NDA you signed.

[tepid plinth]

Another one bites the ban

[shy quartz]

Was asking about the code mate. Not discussing gameplay or anything am I lol

[severe anvil]

And Battlefield Lahs is under NDA. So you discussing how you acquire something that has to do with getting in is a violation of the NDA. As is stated in the email you got. You also do not get support on this Discord, as all info is outlined in the onboarding process.

[tall urchin]

I really wonder if they need to remind themselves to breathe

[shy quartz]

Whatever man jeez. People leaking vids on YouTube and your going off on me about asking about how the code is distributed haha

[severe anvil]

We're "going off" on those people too, that's what the NDA is for. 🙂

[mild girder]

You really are asking to be banned from labs lol

[mild girder]

You are acting like its a random guy being mean or anything towards you breaking the NDA.

He is part of the EA Community Team and knows what is allowed and what not.

[mild girder]

My bet is that we will get news around Gamescom Time

Teaser a few days before it happens and Trailer during Gamescom Opening Night

[faint temple]

Sorry for the boring question would having dyslexia limit my chumps of getting an invites

[mild girder]

No, everyone has the same chance

[faint temple]

@mild girder thanks 👍

[tepid current]

Please no.

[verbal crypt]

Spread is essential for BF tbh. The fact that I can beam someone from 60+ meters with the PP29 is ridiculous lol. We need better engagement distances again

[tepid current]

If there isn't huge initial spread I'm with you. Bursting should be possible for distance.

[faint pivot]

Yeah just from the leaks alone the test range is similar to call of duty very linear and indoors what happened to open test range? Along with that the main menu UI is horrendous, soldiers sitting on ammo crates like this is Warzone or some shit. Gunplay is still way too laser beamish, there needs to be spread, in bf4 if my automatic fire is constant spread is worse which forces you to burst fire at ranges for better accuracy, they removed these elements and it’s gayyyyyyyyyy

[faint pivot]

Leading your target due to bullet velocity and bullet drop seems almost gone too

[glad trench]

Build better maps. Not these open field simulators with 400m sightlines in every direction

[glad trench]

Why are you complaining about the UI when that shit goes through like 100 different iterations in the course of a year

[faint pivot]

Gulf of Oman, caspian border, operation firestorm and many more maps are beautifully mapped out 2042 map design was pretty horrible for how open and vast it is

[glad trench]

Caspian and firestorm fucking suck

[faint pivot]

Because it’s updated from last playtest so it’s still an option that could be in game I’m giving feedback on the similarities of it trying to indetify close to cod really simple if you think about it

[faint pivot]

Whatever you say bro 😂

Bf4 map scales were perfection

[glad trench]

Hate me for telling the truth, they’re boring as shit maps with uninteresting gameplay

[glad trench]

Literally the dumbest thing I’ve heard in awhile

[faint pivot]

You’re not telling the truth that’s for damn sure you just have shitty ass opinions😆😆

[nimble bridge]

Unless you make every map like Metro or Redacted you can't limit engagement distances without spread

[glad trench]

Karkand?

[nimble bridge]

Karkand was a map with lots of sightlines too

[glad trench]

Plenty of great maps that have sections of the maps for varying engagement distances

[nimble bridge]

You still need spread to limit engagement distances

[glad trench]

And you could easily stay out of those sight lines with alt routes

[pulsar shard]

The devs are cod devs so no wonder why everything looks like cod after bfv

[faint pivot]

You just seem like you enjoy linear repetitive boring gameplay more than gameplay that can offer different possibilities and play styles

[glad trench]

Also damage fall off is a very useful stat

[nimble bridge]

If Karkand was in 2042 you would still have same issues with engagement distances, Noshahr Canals is in 2042 and plays awful

[faint pivot]

Yeah I understand that which is the most stupidest shit dice has ever done in the existence of battlefield other than saying 2042 was a love letter to fans lol

[pulsar shard]

I have zero expectations for battlefield anymore after BF1 it went downhill

[faint pivot]

The fact you need devs from your competitors company to help you create the game that made you unique and different from other fps, to help make it more like the competitors fps instead of its past titles is fucking goofy and pathetic and whoever made that decision deserves to have their position revoked 😭💯

[mossy marten]

🤨

[glad trench]

Wait until you learn that developers switch studios all the time and it’s nothing new

[pulsar shard]

true 🥲

[nimble bridge]

Best way to limit engagement distances is spread, recoil won't matter since consoles already gets less recoil by default with overpowered RAA so it will only hinder PC players to have high recoil. Spread is equal for everyone regardless of console or PC. You just won't be able to full auto someone from 100 meters.

[faint pivot]

Oh I’m aware of that you act like I barley got into gaming doesn’t mean you need to try and copy and paste a whole different game into an already unique authentic experience to make it more like the generic fps game there is just no excusing that

[glad trench]

BF1 being a dogshit mobile game mechanically with the production quality of a AAA game is the “downhill”

[pulsar shard]

yeah the most popular battlefield is dogshit according the minority of people like you

[faint pivot]

So zeethos if you hate every battlefield what battlefield do you really like? You’re just a bot bro

[pulsar shard]

next thing you gonna say is Bad company 2 is dogshit too

[faint pivot]

These folks are trolls and will argue with anyone who doesn’t like 2042 or call of duty lol they’ve done it since labs started and are on here ALLLL DAY you’re most likely arguing with jobless individuals or children

[glad trench]

BF has never had overpowered AA/RAA and aggressive damage fall off does a better job of keeping engagement distances between weapon type relevant than bullet hose random spread

[pulsar shard]

he hates every popular and most successful battlefield lol,everyone here is children and teenagers

[glad trench]

Justin Bieber must’ve been the greatest male vocalist of the late 2000s

[nimble bridge]

2042's AA is OP, just less OP than contemporaries

[glad trench]

Crazy what happens when games have good marketing and work at launch

[faint pivot]

Exactly, there’s a few others too on here that team up and will try and shame people it’s pathetic

[nimble bridge]

I only get beamed by console players in 2042, across 100 meters

[faint pivot]

Straight loser mentality 😭😂🤣

[pulsar shard]

they are the typical unemployed final bosses

[glad trench]

When have I ever hated BC2/BF3?

[faint pivot]

Theyre the minority when it comes to how the next battlefield should be so they team up and try to be the loudest

[fleet trench]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[pulsar shard]

I didn't say you hated,i said next thing you gonna do is call BC2 dogshit too

[pulsar shard]

yep

[faint pivot]

Then they also try to twist your words to keep you engaged and arguing don’t fall for it they’re miserable 😭

[glad trench]

Classy, you’re genuinely one of the most illiterate people on here? You can’t make a point without then defeating your own point.

And that panda guy is literally just a BF1 glazer because any game that doesn’t hold his hand across the finish line is the series “going downhill”

[pulsar shard]

right 😆

[faint pivot]

You don’t owe any of these guys an explanation! We’re here to give dice feedback! Not argue with jobless 16 year olds😭

[pulsar shard]

Apparently liking games is glazing now

[glad trench]

Why would I? BC2 was great. I use it as an example all the time to counter the dumbest shit takes most of you make

[faint pivot]

Let them say what they want they’re just trying to get under your skin

[pulsar shard]

Im wrong for liking the most successful battelfield

[languid void]

how can they invite me on Friday 19th at 9pm to the play test

[pulsar shard]

yeah waste of time

[faint pivot]

They ask endless questions like they’re the devs and are gonna change the game no need to argue with these suckers

[oak condor]

i hate this stupid ass line because now with vince zampella directing, all the people who spout it are going to be right by total accident

[pulsar shard]

last time i suggested that they should go for a mix of BC2 movement with BF1 and you guys came along with the other unemployed people like Enders and hated me

[faint pivot]

They’re a major waste of time that’s why they’re on here everyday with nothing better to do then try to get the next battlefield to be like cod and argue with people over and over and over

[mossy marten]

Seems like they did some construction in here
Very obvious echo now

[glad trench]

Ya why would people want movement from a game 15 years old and didn’t have prone? It was great for its day, doesn’t translate now

[pulsar shard]

bro you haven't see nothing yet,you can literally see the same people with the same names on youtube comments,tiktok and reddit too

[faint pivot]

Low life ass mfs😭😂😂🤣🤣

[pulsar shard]

So you guys are asking for BF3 and BF4 movement which both of them are 10+ year old

[glad trench]

You’re in here all the time, spewing the dumbest shit…. Something something kettles and pots are black

[pulsar shard]

but when it comes to Bad company 2 its a problem to you and you are using the excuse that the game is 15 years old, that is so hypocritical

[glad trench]

Think battlefield2025 is the only one that has you beat with dumb shit being said

And he owes people money

[mossy marten]

TRUEEEEE

[pulsar shard]

classy check your dm for a minute

[oak condor]

hey man, maybe dice needs to fail after 8 years of irrelevance and total lack of direction

[faint pivot]

I might actually agree with you! They’ll reap what they sow

[glad trench]

You keep acting like BF has been irrelevant when BFV has sold ~15 mil copies

[pulsar shard]

BF1 kept selling straight for 3 years unlike BFV

[oak condor]

well something went horribly wrong because even dice's battlefront 2 left a better impression on people

you know, the one that got loot boxes banned in some countries

[glad trench]

You mean the game that had years of fan service content released for it to a fanbase of the biggest IPs in the world…

Compared to the game that after its best content drop was abandoned (while again still selling well and has maintained a healthy player count since support ended almost 5 years ago)

[distant smelt]

Been trying to get in contact with someone from the EA Community Team without luck (their DMs seem to be closed). Is there a way to get in contact with them besides writing in the chat channels in here?

[glacial orchid]

Pretty sure you and like 500 other people demand to privately DM developers every day which most likely won't happen and you'll have to fill out a form on the EA website like most normal customers who read and write.

[distant smelt]

Chill, not making any demands, just had a question that can't be asked here because of NDA.

[nimble bridge]

Why is this chat still in slow mode?

[tall urchin]

Because it's not about age it's about design. Quake is extremely old but a lot of its movement mechanics are still used today.

[pulsar shard]

No its not about the design,you guys here pick what you like from specific battlefields and base it as a whole opinion

[tall urchin]

"It's not about design"
"Why do you guys pick and choose aspects of design you like?"

[minor linden]

Cause that's how a lot of people form opinions?

It's common to pick and choose aspects of what you like when you're making an argument about a new version. It's better than just choosing one version to base your opinion on and ignoring its faults

[pulsar shard]

Yeah so its my opinion too that i pick and choose aspects of design i like from bc2

[minor linden]

Ah. I just read back and yeah, I agree to a point

BC2 + BF1 would be an interesting combination movement-wise. I don't think it'd match a modern game like BF6, but it could work for a older themed game

[pulsar shard]

yeah i said a mix between these too with some adjustments would be cherry on the top in my opinion,and i think it would fit a modern game cause bc2 is set in a modern era too

[feral garden]

BC2 movement would not suit modern fps era. Unless you mean how heavy/slow it felt.

[pulsar shard]

I mean how heavy and slow it felt

of course it could work with some adjustments cause both games are modern shooters

[minor linden]

Eh. It wouldn't suit a modern theme, but it'd be fine for an older theme like cold war

[nimble bridge]

This game will have movement since EA wants Fortnite/Apex/Warzone kids' mom's credit card

[tepid plinth]

and wants it to be fun

[minor linden]

Bruh. You don't need fast movement to have fun

Fast movement can be fun, but you don't need it to have fun

[tepid plinth]

no further comment

I don't want to start another long discussion it was just an off handed comment

[tall urchin]

See, I feel it's the opposite they want that BF1 audience. Two failures? Go back to the casual stuff that worked.

[minor linden]

Considering the fact that BF1 is currently the most popular BF (Based on steam), I wouldn't doubt this

[tall urchin]

WZ/Apex movement only works and is tolerated to the extent it is, is entirely because of the high rotational aim assist values.

Could you imagine how much CoD players would cry for movement nerfs if holding left stick wasn't sufficient?

[minor linden]

They should replace aim assist with Insurgency's aim dampening

[oak condor]

having no offensive movement makes corner camping very powerful and that's just boring if you're trying to actively play the game

[minor linden]

There's other ways to counter corner camping

For example, if the map is designed well, you can throw a grenade and force them to move

[oak condor]

sadly dice's idea of stalemate breaking is explosive spam

[tepid plinth]

the way to counter it is just cheking every spot sequentially, and if it becomes too textbook-y I just tend to not enjoy it, it feels less dynamic and more like you are repeating the same steps each time

it's why I don't play cs. A little bit of movement just adds a little more spice

[minor linden]

(For anyone who doesn't play, Insurgency just reduces aim sensitivity when you're aiming near an enemy)

[pulsar shard]

in cs go it doesn't matter who will camp better,ive seen pros destroying campers with better reflexes and aim

[tall urchin]

Yeah, CS just doesn't feel as enjoyable when every engagement is just crosshair placement/click timing and at best your options are jiggle peek or wide swing.

And even then those movement options are more based on enemy kit than just equally viable options

[tepid plinth]

when getting better is practising maps that show you common spots and you run through them checking each one, that just isn't too fun

[oak condor]

throwing explosives down a hallway is almost as neuron deactivating as holding a corner for 10 minutes

[minor linden]

If you're just throwing the explosives and waiting, yeah. That's why, when you are clearing a camper, you should be pushing to where you think they're going to be running out from so you can catch them off guard

[tepid plinth]

using utility is fun, but there are only so many nades and loads of spots on this big maps

[oak condor]

that's still purely positioning, you're barely interacting with the gameplay at all

[tall urchin]

Especially doesn't help when said utility in battlefield doesn't really have effective counters. Like when the best play against smoke C5 spam is just back up constantly it means you can't contest

[minor linden]

tactics aren't gameplay? This is the first time I've heard that

positioning is half of all gameplay

Even a lot of movement tech is done to be in a better position than your opponent

[oak condor]

there's very little opportunity to outplay someone if you get caught out in a positioning only game, it makes things very one note and just boring after a while

idk how people sit down and play bf1 or siege every day

siege used to be a lot faster and allowed for individual players to excel i guess

[tepid plinth]

siege is better in this sense because there is far more variance with gadgets and destruction, it's the only tac shooter I can bear playing

[minor linden]

If you get caught out of position, that's your fault so you get rightfully punished. If you play the game correctly, you should almost never get caught out of position

[pulsar shard]

Because people have preferences just like how you like fast paced games,others tend to like slow paced

[minor linden]

Eh. Imo siege is nowhere close to being a purely positioning game. It's more about good aim, gadget placement/use, and figuring out where the enemy is

[oak condor]

ok but imagine the high of saving your own ass by being a way better aimer than the other guy or juking the shit out of him

you know, learnable skills, something to aspire to

[minor linden]

… that does exist in siege. A good amount of gunfights are won by having better aim and leaning

[oak condor]

something other than just taking safe routes and the rare flank with bf1 style handicapped guns and waddling speed

[minor linden]

I feel like that’s more to do with bad map design than anything

There’s games like insurgency that have the same (if not worse) movement as 1 that don’t have that issue simply because their maps are designed better

[oak condor]

insurgency has guns that can push ranges past spitting distance, even on maps like prise de tahure bf1 is pure brain rot

no offensive option besides full body peek waddling around a corner or explosive spamming

bf has historically been pretty arcadey compared to others games of its time, wish we could keep it instead of succumbing to whatever this is

[feral garden]

A game lacking the ability to strafe left or right, or prone would not go over well in a modern game heh

[minor linden]

Again, that's just poor map or gun design. It could be fixed by balancing the guns around the map or the map around the guns

The movement isn't the overall issue

[oak condor]

bf1 has small maps to fit the range compressed guns and the gameplay doesnt change aside from less sweet spot deaths

if they could push ranges like bf4 it would be even more miserable

give me a single outplay option, please god i will sell my soul for bf4 air strafing back

[minor linden]

I'm honestly not too against that

I'd be perfectly fine with it if they removed crossplay

[oak condor]

i dont think "jump and hold left stick" is asking that much of people but sure

[minor linden]

I agree it isn't

I just don't like crossplay in general. PC and Console move, aim, and react differently. It's stupid that console people are basically forced to play with PC (Which has a large advantage with K&M)

[nimble bridge]

I dunno why people want BF to be a tactical shooter, I mean I returned back to BF after I played 2K hours of Siege because I wanted something more casual and relaxed 🤷

[minor linden]

A lot of the people who think BF used to be a tactical shooter are Console players whose experiences were legitimately closer to tactical than PC

I honestly think that people would be happy if they heavily limited crossplay and mainly listened to PC players about movement since 90% of Console players don't do any of the movement tech that PC does

[glad trench]

Or design console around not having a garbage bin FOV

[oak condor]

it'd be cool if we could bring console players into the mid 2010s and show them that gyro really isn't that scary
unfortunately, microsoft

(and aim assist)

[minor linden]

FOV is nowhere near being the problem. It's the whole control scheme

Aiming is either 10x slower or 10x more uncontrollable

and Movement is harder to use in general because you normally have to double press the movement stick to sprint and it's harder to press a bunch of buttons at once

[glad trench]

And I played bf3 on console due to friends in HS not having PCs. Never thought the game was tactical at all

[nimble bridge]

I don't play BF with roller but I tried BO6 with roller and it was fine, I'm an MNK player too and I was getting way more kills 😂

You can buttslide all you want as long as you use tactical control scheme that binds crouch to R3

[crimson moss]

fov doesnt matter theres tons of good players with low fovs and good players with high fov's

[crimson moss]

because you have autorotational aim assist and you dont even use your own aim in cod

[minor linden]

Tbf, a lot of people think slow means tactical

Imo BF is less tactical than they believe but more tactical than the average PC player thinks

[crimson moss]

issue is is that this "tactical" gameplay comes from console players who sit on their couch and eat doritos

they are oblivious to pure tactical games and to what run and gun games are

[minor linden]

Yeah. I'd agree that that's the main reason. They see it's slightly more tactical than cod (largely because of bigger maps and vehicles) and think it's a tactical game

[crimson moss]

they crouch walk around random corners, get jump peeked and complain about it

[feral garden]

Bf3 on console and PC are completely different games. In the same way 2042 is completely different from ps4 to pc.

[minor linden]

Yea. The main issue though is that that used to be a rare occurrence. With crossplay, they're having it happen to them every 5 minutes because PC players naturally use movement tech more

[feral garden]

It's like 24 player max, versus 64 on pc.

So it's gonna play massively differently

[minor linden]

Even without the player count differences, they play really differently

[crimson moss]

idk no one really moves in 2042

just sitting in a group waiting to get fragged

[minor linden]

2042 is it's own phenomenon

Idk what's going on in the heads of those 2042 players

[crimson moss]

nothing

the entire game is just get behind kill 20 people and die to an spf launcher that some dude from 3 spawns away ran around with

rinse and repeat

[glad trench]

I always played it as a run and gun shooter on console. Most people who think the game is tactical at all are like the absolute dregs on your team

[nimble bridge]

SPF is so annoying, I hope BF6 won't have anything like that

People who fire SPF are immune to it's damage too, so you can't even suicide bomb them if you are stuck with it

[minor linden]

SPF?

[nimble bridge]

Sticky grenade launcher

[crimson moss]

some sticky grenade that sticks to your body

[minor linden]

Ah

Yeah, I understand how that'd suck lol

[crimson moss]

some players shoot you with it on complete accident

[glad trench]

It’s the assault gadget in 2042

[tall urchin]

SPH lol, SPF is sunscreen but I get you

Both feel greasy though

[sharp quarry]

[stiff root]

Still cooking, we are close don't worry

[true schooner]

did bf3 or 4 have a grenade launcher that shout a literal hand grenade out that would bounce around before exploding or am i going crazy?

[last sphinx]

This is 100% true and it's kind of insane that people are not focusing on this more. It dramatically lowers the skill ceiling when it comes to longer ranges. It also doesn't just make it harder to track targets at longer ranges, it makes it physically impossible to do it consistently because the reticle bounce is completely random per shot and the time between shots for full auto weapons is less than the human reaction reaction time

I don't get why they are adding mechanics that essentially "obscure" gunplay. I don't think anyone complained about the aim point being centered to the screen

[versed token]

Guy just made stuff up and you're agreeing with it

[feral garden]

What not getting an invite/not being able to play the game does to a persons mind

[last sphinx]

I have complained about this before he made that post

[last sphinx]

What makes you think I haven't played labs?

[feral garden]

Whats your username

[last sphinx]

Lol I'm not giving that away. You can check my messages on this server from during the stress test weekend

[feral garden]

Ah, so just blatant NDA breaking then, is it?

[last sphinx]

I never said that

[feral garden]

You just did

[last sphinx]

I just asked you what makes you think I haven't played the game. I never confirmed or denied if I ever played labs

[feral garden]

Sure dude, whatever. Just making shit up anyway

If you have people like Enders and Ghost not making videos on these things, they legit are not issues lol

[last sphinx]

Lmao yeah you believe that lil bro. It's not like there are leaks where you can verify what I said about the reticle being decentered

[last sphinx]

https://youtu.be/1TUMhCkNpfg?si=_1ITzjnPp55XYaFU

[feral garden]

Fact you wont even share your player name speaks volumes

[last sphinx]

The same issue is present in labs

[feral garden]

Posts video of different game.

Proving my point. Looking to force drama on mechanics where there is none

[last sphinx]

Again, why would I do this and risk getting banned?

[feral garden]

lmao, so you ARE breaking your NDA then

[last sphinx]

You are welcome to look at leaks and see for yourself if the reticle is centered or not. It's pretty easy to do lol

[feral garden]

Im good

[lilac nacelle]

in which dimension will we get this update "on classes in the near future"?

[last sphinx]

Lol so you refuse to engage with evidence. Keep glazing dice lil bro. Hope they give you a free copy

[feral garden]

whenever its ready. good things cant be rushed

lol, blocks anyone who disagree with them. Clearly im speaking with an adult

[last sphinx]

Who did I block?

[feral garden]

Me

[last sphinx]

Uhhhhhh no I didn't

[feral garden]

I cant react with your comments, so that shows you blocked me

either that or discord be trippin

[lilac nacelle]

you cant react in this chat imo

well you can

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/wayne's-world-wayne-thimbs-up-ok-well-done-gif-15694288732343736292

[last sphinx]

I can't react to bsod either. Idk why

[lilac nacelle]

but i cannot react

[feral garden]

I can, just not with you. Discord knows!

[last sphinx]

I didn't block you though. You can still see my messages and reply to them and I can do the same with you. Idk why we can't react to each other

[feral garden]

Discord being discord I guess, my bad. Ill take the L on that assumption

[last sphinx]

Anyway, this issue really needs to be fixed for gunplay to be rewarding.

I guess "issue" and "fixed" are poor choice of words on my part

[feral garden]

Remains to be seen if anything needs fixing.

[last sphinx]

I mean... sure. But that can be said about literally anything lol

[feral garden]

I feel like if this was a massive glaring issue. enders would have covered it again by now. IYKYK

[last sphinx]

Are you on his discord? He has made a video in the past why it was bad in BFV and the issue still exists.

[feral garden]

I talk to them semi-regularly off their discord.

[last sphinx]

Ask him for his opinion on aim point being decentered. He has a lot to say about that. He mentioned to me in his discord that he wasn't expecting dice to change this mechanic since it was in bf5 and bf2042

[feral garden]

Spoken lots on the new game and its never been raised as an issue TBH

Id tag them for more context, but its like 4am for them now

[last sphinx]

Ask him how he feels about it. He will basically repeat the BFV video points. That being said, I can see why he wouldn't talk about it since it's hard to judge how much of an effect it has on gameplay without actually playing (Enders doesn't have labs access)

[last sphinx]

Does he not use he/him? Also you can tag him lol. He won't wake up because of a discord notification

[feral garden]

Its good etiquette to not tag people when you know its 4am for them

[mild girder]

tf is going on here lol

[feral garden]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mild girder]

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

You sure about that?

And i can already see you go like: "Well i was just asking because i wanted to know". That shit wont work, you were invited and couldnt read a simple email instruction lol you kept asking shit about the Stress Test

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

We also have this lol you cant make it more obvious

[last sphinx]

Lol I forgot about that one. Anyway, that issue is an issue in 2042 when you try to use a Tartarus instead of a normal keyboard.

It might be in labs as well idk

[mild girder]

Idc, you broke the NDA like an idiot

[feral garden]

🤣

[last sphinx]

Allegedly

[mild girder]

💀 Bro we have the messages in chat

[last sphinx]

Do I ever say that I've been invited? Anyway, I don't see how whether or not I broke the NDA is relevant to the point about aim point being decentered

[mild girder]

You talked about how to fix an issue with YOU shooting without doing anything

which was an issue during the Playtest for some. so why tf u keep acting like you didnt break the nda

[last sphinx]

For an issue that exists in 2042

[mild girder]

Yea sure, whatever you say 😭

Imagine asking that in a LABS DISCUSSION chat DURING the Playtest Session

[last sphinx]

Happy coincidences

[mild girder]

Its not like there is a 2042 Chat or something like that, would be really helpful

[feral garden]

If youre going to allude to you playing Labs, then break your NDA to try "win" a discussion...then completely back off when someone raises that as an issue...dont bother doing it in the first place

[last sphinx]

Ah I guess I didn't see that. Thank you for sharing with me

[mild girder]

i really hope EA will find ur Username on EA App and ban you for all future playtests lol

[last sphinx]

I mean hypothetically what would you expect who implicitly broke the NDA to do lol? Come out and say it (not that I did)

[feral garden]

You did come out and say it tho

Youre just denying it now

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

[last sphinx]

I really don't see why you guys are stuck on this point lmao. Unless you're on Dice's legal team you have no incentive to enforce the NDA

[feral garden]

I dont care one way or the other, just have some backbone. If youre gonna say something to try win a discussion or prove a point, dont immediately back down and deny...or just dont say anything and break your NDA (again)

[mild girder]

i just like pointing out how dumb people are regarding the NDA

[last sphinx]

My discord and EA account are not linked at all so I really don't see then finding out my EA account.

[feral garden]

I found you already from past messages, its not all that hard lol

[last sphinx]

Congratulations.

[mild girder]

And another one lol

[feral garden]

Contact any emails you may see in your invite. Discussion of invites, or labs info pertaining to them is not allowed here

[toxic turret]

Gotcha, I’ll delete. Apologies

[mild girder]

People really cant read emails these days

[rugged seal]

[last sphinx]

We can read them. It's just there's no real risk if you don't list your EA account on discord. Idk why you're so passionate about enforcing a company's NDA when you don't even work there

[mild girder]

Oh trust me, people are careless and they fuck up someday and leak their shit

[mild girder]

and respecting an NDA has nothing to do with working for them or not lol

[toxic turret]

Fwiw, there’s no email to contact in that rsvp email 🤷🏻‍♂️ reading the email is great n all but if it doesn’t contain the information you need it’s difficult to attain the information from the email 🤣

[last sphinx]

Doesnt apply in this specific case though.

[mild girder]

Trust me, there is...

[last sphinx]

Who cares? You're acting as if they're breaking a contact with you or something

[mild girder]

Wanna repeat what you just said to me: Who cares? Let me enforce the NDA Policy on others, why you care so much about it lol

[last sphinx]

It's like complaining about people sharing Netflix accounts with people other than their family

Like sure you agree not to do it but why would you care about it unless you're a Netflix shareholder or something

I guess EA is publicly traded so you could own stocks

[mild girder]

This dude is still going at it 😭 I hope this is ragebait

[last sphinx]

My brother in Christ, you're the one trying to enforce a company's NDA for free

[feral garden]

Obey rules of the server > Enforcing companies NDA

[last sphinx]

It's somehow even more pathetic than being a reddit mod

[mild girder]

This guy

[last sphinx]

Yall can continue to do this. I gotta go to bed now. Hope you're able to find my username and get me banned 🙏

[toxic turret]

Nope, maybe they’ve changed it since you had one? Only have the generic playtesting email it was sent from. No other emails my dude. If you know the email then please let me know 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[feral garden]

They emailed you from an address

[mild girder]

READ the email CAREFULLY

[last sphinx]

Before I go I'll just reiterate this in case someone else wants to engage with my point about gunplay

[feral garden]

No thanks, were good

[mild girder]

no one cares, go offline now

[feral garden]

"Let me break my NDA even more before I leave"

https://tenor.com/view/genius-excited-beard-bear-gif-4242197970653209363

[last sphinx]

"Let me glaze the billion dollar company a bit more"

[mild girder]

Yea, he is ragebaiting, he cant be real

[last sphinx]

Hope you two get a free copy for your service 🫡

[atomic marten]

"let me break nda to win an argument" what is this? warthunder?

[feral garden]

Helping people not break the rules of this server is not glazing, its what gets you a trusted regulars role here 👍

[mild girder]

fr 😭

[last sphinx]

Lmao I was right. This is even sadder than being a reddit mod.

[feral garden]

Oh no...wanting to have a nice friendly community!!! how dare I!!!!!!!!

[rotund pier]

I kinda wish the factions were map locked but eh, I guess it’s better than having shit skins

[feral garden]

For all we know, they are

[rotund pier]

For all that’s leaked, they don’t seem that way :p

But! If it’s just a placeholder thing, good

I’d much rather have them map locked than as an aspect of customization

Plus DICE is just so silly, if they want money, the more you have locked the better

You want to sell skins? The more factions the better cuz then people’ll want a couple of skins per character in that faction

[warm fjord]

Dont even try to bring another micro-pay sh..

[rotund pier]

Another? It’s literally the main one

[rugged seal]

[feral garden]

No, youre not. This was confirmed as not true by mods here

[toxic turret]

You defo ragebaiting I respect the commitment tbf. Because it’s not in the email 😂 that or you’re hallucinating

What a weirdly aggressive discord server this is

[feral garden]

Rules of the programe forbid any discussion of a users involvement

[atomic marten]

it states so in the tos unless the one from the server stress test is different from the normal play tests

[feral garden]

Not my words, thats what mods and admins have told us. I raised it as a contradiction in the user agreement, so no clue if it has since been amended

End of the day im just trying to make people aware so they dont break a rule that may get them warned/muted.

[atomic marten]

understandable, probably to kinda prevent some situations

[tepid plinth]

So many people fail to read the information they are given that if nobody told them anything they’d get banned from the tests and be sad

We don’t want sad people

[atomic marten]

They can do more than just ban you from the play test. But i agree with having the discord rule of dont disclose anything even if the tos says that you can say that you're part of it bc thats too much nuance already for most people

[mighty osprey]

Is there still the thing that they drop infos / teaser on Tuesday, and since we haven't had anything yesterday, we will not have anything at least until next Tuesday ?

[feral garden]

There is no real validity to the Tuesday thing. Blogs and update posts have released on random days.

[mighty osprey]

I don't understand what is happening with ea right now

There is 0 official infos since early February, total radio silence from dev / marketing

But we have seen like half of the maps + concept art, the whole set of weapons, every modes seems to have leaked, how the game handle, factions... like a really really big portion of the game is everywhere on Internet, but we are not allow to talk about it and they don't show it

Is the game even set to release this year like they said previously ? What about the transparency with the community they sell us during the lab reveal ? This situation is so confusing 😕

I hope I am wrong and the reveal is something huge, but if there is nothing new from all the leaks, it will be a disappointment

[atomic marten]

I just got a positive play warning?? What did i say here that is so toxic that it warrents a warning?

[feral garden]

Probably the statement on being allowed to say youre part of labs. that comment was deleted

[atomic marten]

They should update the rules than bc its not in there

[feral garden]

Perhaps something you can suggest in #discord-server-feedback

[atomic marten]

Oh yea good idea

[rugged seal]

I recommend going thru different admin/community manager posts in this channel to see what they have to say about when people disregard the nda and talk about it here

[atomic marten]

Wait how do i make the sugestion without saying it again and getting another warning...

[rugged seal]

They had a blog post that had a lot of community feedback last month...

[feral garden]

"Please consider amending the #rules to include what players can or cannot talk about in respect to the Battlefield Labs program.

Users are being warned or given positive play warnings, when there is no clear rule they are breaking and/or in violation of"

[mighty osprey]

They add 1 community post about destruction (which is a basic thing for battlefield, so not even considering it) and 1 post about weapons not being locked, not so much info in 4 months

In 4 months we have less official infos than any other bf games, but already seen more than any other bf games through leaks...

[rugged seal]

Its not the best idea to make a bunch of official posts about things that are more than likely going to be changed before launch anyways

[mighty osprey]

There are a lot of stuff that should be already done and over (like any other bf games trailer in late May, early June, they show final stuff)

If everything can't be showed or can change, that means the game will not be launched by the end of fiscal year like they said

[feral garden]

they say this like the Labs program doesnt also exist for info and feedback.

Bro will probably be the first to call an undercooked game ass...but then want it to release fast and early

Let them take all the time they need

[atomic marten]

I feel like this is too vague tho because its kind of a weird case and i genuinely want there to be a clear rule on it even if its just for this discord specifically. Ill try to think of something or maybe see if i can contact a mod about it?(boubtful)

[mighty osprey]

Wanting some official info about the game that suppose to be release this year is wanting to have "undercooked game" ?

You probably have access to pre alpha / alpha and official info from lab server, but for the majority it is so uncommon to have nothing at this point 🫤

[feral garden]

There is no set release date, hope this helps

You already have plenty of info in #1335997362258186292

[mighty osprey]

Have they not said end of the fiscal year (before March 2026) + no near gta6 (so not early 2026) ?

[feral garden]

No, EA CEO said a rough estimate of FY 26, but things change for all games and developers

GTA6 was expected to release FY 26 also. But it too has moved to FY 27 as they need more time

[mild girder]

im not lol you just cant read the email at all

[mild girder]

btw, this still is not a release date. If something happens with the development and they NEED to delay, they will do it (but since they didnt with 2042, they will 100% not delay)

[mighty osprey]

Plenty of info :
movement -> "we want good movements"
Recoil -> "we adjust recoil so each gun have good recoil"
Destruction -> "we have destruction"
Class -> "we have no lock weapons"

Except for the class part which is new in the bf franchise, everything is so generic and means nothing, like we add recoil to guns, yes like every game in every franchise, this is not plenty of info...

I thought it was set to be the end of the year, but the way it is (not) announced + the fact that ceo call is not trustable, I doubt to have anything this fall :/

[feral garden]

I mean, this is a lie. there is far more information in those posts than you are aluding tho

Ill just mark you as ignore, as you clearly have no interest in being objective

No need to reply to me

[mighty osprey]

Read them and tell what more about guns they say unless "we have recoil so each guns feels different" like any other bf game ? What about movements they say ? What about destruction unless we can destruct walls ?

[feral garden]

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

[mighty osprey]

I want to discuss, and if I miss information I am ready to ear them, but I found it very vague what they said

[feral garden]

No thanks, you are just reacting, not actually talking

[mighty osprey]

What ? XD how is that possible that I ask official informations because I found the official post to vague, and the only response is "you can leave I don't want to discuss" 😅

[mild girder]

"At this stage of testing within Battlefield Labs, our main focus points are:

Understanding which environments can or cannot be destroyed and which type of firepower is required for different material types

The impact of collateral damage from debris and destructible elements

Tactical use of destruction to create new pathing or persistent environments

Balancing the ecosystem of damage through firepower and destruction"

Seems like a lot more than "You can destroy walls"

[feral garden]

The Class System is defined by two main components: Customizable and class-defining.

The customizable components empower players to explore and push the boundaries of their roles within their chosen class while also still adhering to the expectations of the class.

The class-defining components are designed to enhance "pick-up-and-go" playability and reinforce the expectations of your class identity.

CUSTOMIZABLE:

• Weapon Loadouts: Fully customizable weapon loadouts allow you the freedom to play the way you want. Play to the strengths of your class by using your signature weapons, or easily switch to any other weapon to meet the needs of your squad.

• Class Gadgets: You'll have the option to carry two gadgets onto the battlefield, tailored to each class and its specific role. Recon aficionados specialize in intelligence and counterintelligence, with class gadgets including Deploy Beacons, Anti-Personnel Mines, and Laser Designators.

• Training: Our philosophy with Training is to offer a series of traits that can be unlocked during play to enhance your ability to perform your role. As you engage more in a match, you'll gradually earn flat-stat bonuses and more to support the effectiveness of your role further.

• Throwables: Our approach to throwables prioritizes enabling each class to effectively fulfill its role by providing tailored throwables.

CLASS-DEFINING

• Signature Weapon: Each class has a Signature Weapon category tied to their class identity, which, when used, enhances their role on the battlefield.

For example, using our same ongoing test subject, the Recon class, if you select a weapon from the Sniper Rifle category, you will benefit from increased breath-holding duration. In contrast, an Assault player choosing from the same category will not receive this bonus.

DMRs, Carbines, and Shotguns remain viable options, no matter your class, but don’t benefit from any Signature Weapon bonus.

• Signature Trait: Each class features a unique Signature Trait, providing passive bonuses tailored to optimize your role on the battlefield. For instance, a Recon player automatically spots enemies while aiming down sights, encouraging the use of weapons that complement this specialization.

• Signature Gadget: These gadgets are unique and singular to each class with an aim for you to always have access to a tool that fulfills the role of that class.Separate from what you may choose as gadgets within your loadout.

• Default Weapon Packages: The default weapon package is a pre-set combination of attachments and visual customization for each class to be combat ready, with the option for further progression and personalization.

What’s Next

The Class System and its individual components will be available for testing within Battlefield Labs in the coming weeks. Participants will be able to go hands-on with these features, discuss, and provide feedback.

Following further play sessions, we'll be back with another Community Update to unpack class components in more detail, and share learnings based on participant feedback.

Get Involved

Sign up for Battlefield Labs now if you’re interested in helping us validate the future of Battlefield. Read our FAQ if you’d like to learn more, and join the discussion on Battlefield Discord.

As a reminder, Battlefield Labs is a closed environment, and attendance is limited, but we’ll make sure to share to keep everyone updated!

Thank you for joining the discussion. We look forward to connecting again soon - see you on the battlefield!

This announcement is related to content in development through Battlefield Labs, and may change as we listen to community feedback and continue developing the next Battlefield title and beyond. We will always strive to keep our community as informed as possible.

Super vague indeed /s

[mossy marten]

[mighty osprey]

• different kind of Firepower needed to destruct different materials : have we not already this system ? Like guns can destroy small stuff, rpg does medium damage to walls, and tanks can do top damages ?

• impact of collateral damage from debris : have not already that when Wall fall apart on soldiers?

-Tactical use to create new pathing : kinda new, but pretty sure some maps already have them in bf3

• balancing ecosystem : generic term

This is what I mean : nothing really new for a battlefield game, and I can be wrong, but what have been announced here is in battlefield franchise from the beginning right ?

[mild girder]

You took this long for all that?! 😭

[mighty osprey]

This is what I said it was new, the class system, yes

[mighty osprey]

Kinda slow 🐌 but we have all our time here

[feral garden]

Its a game vision presentation, which will then be tested and itterated upon by people with Labs access. They arent going to, and shouldnt do as they did with past games. And make promises they cant keep...or just act like yes men and say the game is one thing, then release and be completely different.

[mighty osprey]

So we are kinda agree that there are not so many micro info about the game itself, but more a vision about going through a classic battlefield game

And my point was : not so much info for a game that launch this year

But since it may be not, it change everything

[prisma wing]

Weapons should be locked to classes, otherwise the players will not fullfill the class objective

[feral garden]

Giving micro info is pointless at this stage. As they will change the game constantly based on feedback

[mighty osprey]

It will not be pointless if it was realising this year, as stuff barely change between trailer / teaser in early year and final product in fall

[feral garden]

Not really true. Engineers will still fight vehicles and repair regardless of what weapons they have available.

Make a better argument

[feral garden]

You are working under the assumption that BF Labs is not being used to test and change the game based on feedback from those tests.

The game is not finished, it doesn't even have a name yet. This mindset should be changed.

[prisma wing]

So how do you justify playing a medic with a sniper rifle?

[versed token]

Always the same boogeyman

[feral garden]

I won't. I'll use a weapon that's appropriate to how I want to play. Which will probably be an AR or LMG for Frontline combat, healing and reviving

[glacial orchid]

Freedom of choice is the best way to go. Not some guy playing medic because the gun thats meta is locked to it and they won't revive me 80% of the time. Classes should be based on gadget. The old days of that idea are gone. Let's focus on real game mechanics like movement, gun play and vehicle balance.

[tepid plinth]

tbf both approaches have their pros and cons that match each other in severity

[rotund pier]

I can't see a game without class restricted weapons as a Battlefield game

[young jetty]

I definitely can, class restricted weapons are terrible in my honest opinion.

[rotund pier]

did you like 2042

[feral garden]

Hardline is proof they should not do locked weapon classes.

Players didn't like that game, so clearly it should not happen again.

[atomic marten]

kek

[covert nest]

I love my support and battle rifle simulator battlefield hardline but ironically with its mix of all kit weapons it probably stands as one of the better balanced games.

Relatively. Its ttk was insanely quick.

But i dont really care for this shit. I'll be maining assault... with assault rifles. Like the rest. And the game will be as meta driven.

[minor linden]

I wouldn’t really call HL a fully weapon locked game. All primaries were locked to a certain class, but every class had access to an off branch of ARs (besides for recon iirc)

So people who like ars could run ars on nearly every class but the general populous used the intended guns for the classes

(Also, ik you’re most likely joking but Hl didn’t fail because of locked weapons. It failed because they made a cops vs crims game in a military franchise)

[feral garden]

This was me using the same logic the comment above mines was using, to justify weapon unlocking or not.

[rotund pier]

except the game was amazing

one of the best BF games, people were just being cry babies about the fact it wasn't war themed and was police vs robbers instead

[feral garden]

Sorry, failed game, disliked by BF core audience. Everything from it should not be used moving forward.

[rotund pier]

I wish they'd do Hardline 2 because it's peak BF

[feral garden]

This is why no one should value your opinion

[rotund pier]

I know it won't happen but oh well, we don't deserve nice things in this dumb community

[feral garden]

Hardline is fine, but it is objectively not peak BF.

[minor linden]

Ah. Fair

[minor linden]

Yeah. It’s an amazing game and my personal favorite Bf, but it’s not a peak bf game

It doesn’t have any tanks, planes, or really any armored vehicle with actual weapons

[minor linden]

Will sadly probably never happen because the studio that made it doesn’t exist anymore

[exotic pine]

Good morning and thanks for the invite. Looking forward to being friends.

[severe anvil]

This is not the Battlefield Labs Discord, please ensure that you read the email instructions properly and do not post about Battlefield Labs in public spaces like these, as this breaks the NDA you signed.

[minor linden]

Every 5 minutes

I swear, this happens every 5 minutes

Can y’all invite more people with the ability to read?

[severe anvil]

It's a fraction of people invited that get confused. I know it's annoying but not much you can do as a user. It's going to happen. 🤷‍♂️

[exotic pine]

Whoopsies

[feral garden]

It has some good maps. But I really didnt enjoy the gunplay/weapon balance. It was like BF4 balance on drugs.

[exotic pine]

Is this not # battlefield-labs-discussion?

[feral garden]

Channel topic: Discussion the PUBLIC information available around Battlefield Labs. For further information see #battlefield-labs-news, or visit battlefield.com/labs

[rotund pier]

I thought the gunplay was the best one up until that point

like it's been forever since I played but as far as I can remember, the bullets actually register unlike bf4

[feral garden]

Hit detection and gunplay arent the same thing. Related, but not the same

I honestly cant remember a single weapon in that game outside of a few ARs. I just remember everything else being useless

[feral garden]

I remember one of the bolt actions being and feeling great also, but not much else. Maybe the R700?

[versed token]

R700 and AWM were great

Probably my fav snipers in any bf game

besides m98b

[young jetty]

No

[vast orbit]

Cosplaying as a mod

[atomic marten]

oh look mrBattlefield is back

[raw current]

if i have a question about labs where i can get an answer without breaking NDA?

[severe anvil]

If you've been invited you received instructions via email, follow these.

[raw current]

can i send you a quick dm just to clarify somethings without sending an email?

[severe anvil]

I don't have any insight on the invitation process or can get you in. You will have to follow the instructions in the email and that will provide you with all you need to join Labs if you've been invited.

[raw current]

im already invited, i will send anyway an email

[severe anvil]

That'd be best then, yes.

[regal mauve]

"no discussing playtest in public" is there some playtester only discord or something?

[severe anvil]

Yep, there's a tester environment to discuss Labs and provide feedback and bug reports on the tests.

[regal mauve]

how can i get in it?

[severe anvil]

If you are selected for the playtest you receive instructions what to do, where to go, and how to play. Non-testers cannot join that environment.

[regal mauve]

well i did get invited and all i have is the email and the date for the upcoming playtest

i didnt see anything in the email on instructions to get in

[severe anvil]

I would definitely advise to fully read all emails you get and follow the instructions.

Check spam folders as well in case your email provider filtered any mails.

[feral garden]

Patience is also a virtue. Judging by past peoples experiences...emails with info pertaining to these things can take a while to arrive. But they will arrive.

[raw current]

i checked my emails andi dont have a server only tester

[regal mauve]

this is my first time doing a playtest for battlefield and the only email i got was about needing to complete a quick survey to get in which i did complete and it says im approved

[feral garden]

Be patient dude. As they already said...this isnt the place to talk about this

Youll get everything you need in due time

[raw current]

i hope so, i got the email one month ago

[severe anvil]

Did you get an email about the 72 hour stress test? That's not Battlefield Labs testing, that was a one off special test.

[raw current]

isnt still a labs test?

[severe anvil]

Nope, players for Labs have different access and playtests. The 72 hour stress test was specifically set up to test the servers for that specific date only.

[raw current]

thats why i wanted to ask something cause i send an email from the instruction i got, and he did not answer my question and got an answer that i didnt need or i already know

[severe anvil]

If you received instructions a month+ ago, it's likely you weren't invited to the actual Battlefield Labs playtesting. If you do think there was an error, feel free to reach out to [e-mail] again. If they do not resolve your issue it's likely that you haven't been selected for testing and you will have to wait and see if you get selected in the future. Not everybody who signs up for Labs will be invited.

[steady robin]

☝️

[nimble bridge]

DICE is flip flopping for no reason:
BF1 = Aim tied to screen center
BFV = Decoupled from screen center
2042 = Tied to screen center
BF6 = Decoupled from screen center

[nimble bridge]

I want class locked weapons because I don't want every class to use 3BTK ARs with headshot multiplying bullets

[feral garden]

Yeah, only the class you play!!!!

[nimble bridge]

Yes 😂

I'm a basic assault

ARs should be exclusive to assault

[feral garden]

#OpinionIgnored

[nimble bridge]

I don't want SMG assault either, we don't need a repeat of Mackay PP29 meta

[last sphinx]

Honestly that's more of a general ttk problem instead of a class problem

[cedar isle]

I should’ve signed up for labs lol many of yall takes are just outta thin air 😂 especially dude named phreek

[ruby merlin]

Battlefield 6 isnt 2042 though, there isnt any grapple hooks

[inland glacier]

Idk how bout we just use the formula that wasn’t absolutely lambasted on like idk.

In comparison

Just my hot take I guess

[nimble bridge]

PP Mackay was OP because of strafe speed too

Mackay would be OP even without grapple hook

[mossy marten]

faster strafes is not as powerful as Zain's passive or Sundance's passive

[rugged seal]

I hardly see Mackay in 128 tbh

[glad trench]

Give us an example of something @tropic tulip has said

[young jetty]

No I just wanted to respond

[astral oracle]

Hello everypony

Quick question

[severe anvil]

Did you read my message fully when you asked?

[astral oracle]

Im scared bro 😭

[severe anvil]

Please make sure you follow the full instructions sent to you via email if you were selected for a playtest. This Discord is not for discussions that are under NDA. 😉

[astral oracle]

That's the thing idk if this counts as breaking NDA.. but thank you I was gonna delete that 😭😭😭

My apolocheese

[delicate frigate]

I was taking a look at this new Battlefield and it reminds me of CoD. Should I be worried?

Not that I wanted it to be a MILSIM, but the movement is fine...

Fast?

[severe anvil]

If you want to be, sure. I'd wait until you get a chance to play.

[delicate frigate]

Well, by then, I've already spent money on the game. What can I do, my friend? Games aren't like they were 10 years ago. Today, the market has changed and the focus is on profit. Quality and fun games? Bah...

[glad trench]

So delusional?

[delicate frigate]

I say this as a consumer.

[glad trench]

Games 10 years ago weren’t focused on a profit?

BF4 was literally a cash grab pushed out as fast as possible off the success of BF3

[modern seal]

So excited to play tbh ❤️ can’t wait for hands on, hopefully I get a chance to playtest

[delicate frigate]

No, it's just point of view and perception.

But with a hint of concern.

But I'm not the one who decides to boycott a game. The entire community will evaluate it, as they did with 2042.

[glad trench]

If what the leaked videos have shown reminds you of actual modern CoD, you need to either go play CoD or rewatch the leaks

[delicate frigate]

Same

[modern seal]

And bf4 was awesome tho

[delicate frigate]

I've played CoD, and I know what I'm talking about. But like I said: point of view.

[glad trench]

BF4 was a game that barely worked for 12-18 months and was getting railed by class action lawsuits because it launched so miserably

[delicate frigate]

Mainly Warzone.

[modern seal]

Theres your problem. Warzone is 💩

This isnt warzone

[delicate frigate]

Yes, but what I meant was that 10 years ago, there was a quality that games don't have today. Where almost everything is bland and without proper polish. There are few shooting games that really entertain you like the old days. It has literally become a "fast-food" of games. This is noticeable if you came from PS2, X360.

[delicate frigate]

Well, I said I've played. I don't play Warzone.

Is my problem giving my point of view?

[glad trench]

Idk what to tell you man there are plenty of great games today even if the fps market the past few years has been in a rut. The rose colored glass are lying to you

[modern seal]

Isnt it enough to just be excited? Like you said, 10 yrs ago games made me excited. The footage ive seen of this bf has genuinely brought that excited kid I once was back out.

[glad trench]

the majority of games from the ps2/360 era were total profit driven slop off the coattails of the big games

[astral oracle]

New bf looks peak

I'm sure it plays really well

[delicate frigate]

If you are from the x360 generation, you will understand my point. I don't want to dwell on this, as it is not a formal debate.

[modern seal]

I havnt been this excited since my mum told me I needed to get a paper route if I wanted bf4 🤣 guess what? I got that route, and my first cheque was spent on bf4

[astral oracle]

I agree with this too. Bfv and bf2042 didn't make me excited at all as much as did bf2bc2, bf3, bf4 and bf1. But the new one makes me genuinely excited

[astral oracle]

Peak

[delicate frigate]

Traumas of 2042.

[glad trench]

I’ve been playing games since the Dreamcast man. You’re remembering all the good games from that era and not all the garbage slop

[astral oracle]

I did come from that era, and I kinda get what you mean. It felt like games back then were made with soul and passion but now they're formulaic
I sound like a damn boomer by saying that

[mossy marten]

the game looks fast?
leaked gameplay shows the game to be slower than bf4 lmaooooo

[modern seal]

Have you played recently? I dowloaded it cause why not, its $5 on steam and ive sunk some good hrs into it this last week

[astral oracle]

Its why the indie scene pops off because its all unique ideas and full of passion, like clair obscur for example

But new bf looks very very good

[astral oracle]

👀

[modern seal]

Its actually kinda fun. Even if super annoying

[delicate frigate]

I'm being bombarded.

[glad trench]

Slower atm but there’s more opportunity for movement tech and shit people will find

[delicate frigate]

[astral oracle]

Maybe one day dice will recreate the sound design of Black from the og Xbox. I remember playing that on those xrocker chairs

[mossy marten]

i hope so, i ain't trynna play battlefront (2015) clone, BF1, again lol

[modern seal]

Just tryna hype you 🤣 I too am concerned. But just be excited, lifes too short

[astral oracle]

If I'm under an NDA, am I allowed to say I'm under NDA.. or is that..breaking NDA..

[delicate frigate]

I played it when it was released and I've been playing it again recently. It doesn't excite me. If I said it did, I'd be lying. Man, even BFV can be more fun.

[delicate frigate]

The last shooter game I LOVED was Insugency Sandstorm. I literally LOVED it.

[astral oracle]

I still play it on ps5. It's so amazing

Waiting for ready or not on console too

[modern seal]

Play portal with a full squad of mates. Genuine fun

[astral oracle]

I've (sadly) done every COD camo grind since OG MW..

Nothing hits like realistic shooters

[delicate frigate]

Hell Let Loose and WW1 trillogy.

[astral oracle]

Hell let loose is great with mates but frustrating solo

So satisfying to play tho

[delicate frigate]

I always play as a machine gunner. Using an MG-42 is so much fun in that shit.

[astral oracle]

Damn you got me wanting to play insurgency.. firing it up lol

[astral oracle]

SAME nothing better than gunning a treeline hoping to nail stragglers or a team

I walk in my lunch break in some forests around me and I see those familiar layouts of roads with hedges alongside the edge and out of habit I walk close to the outside edge because of HLL 😭😭😭😭

[delicate frigate]

Yes. That's the essence of the game. Paranoia and PTSD.

But as I said, I was a little worried about the leaked gameplay. Although I was also excited, because I found the environment very interesting. But let's wait for the release to draw our conclusions.

[modern seal]

It just looks like bf3/4 with some new movements tbh 😯 👀

[nimble bridge]

People who played the game told me it plays like MW22, and honestly they are right tbh...

[feral garden]

Lol dude just stop. You're making a fool of yourself

[nimble bridge]

We'll see when it's open beta, I bet we will see tons of people saying the same thing, ''you guys just remade MW19, 22,23 in Frostbite engine'' 😂

[feral garden]

By default a Battlefield game will be nothing like those titles. It has vehicles, destruction, class systems. What a silly thing to say.

[tall urchin]

I get where they're coming from, my takeaway is it follows a lot of similar design philosophies (movement disjointing reticle from screen centre on top of reduced movement/ADS penalties, etc) it isn't to say it's a duplicate of MW22 but it's gutting skill gaps to appeal to the same audience.

[molten wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-3-battlefield-war-video-game-gif-1002719864111083496

[feral garden]

Again, a ridiculous thing to day. People really are suffering from not having access to test versions 😂🤣

[tall urchin]

So far we've seen those aspects on top of a much faster TTK, so unless the game starts changing a significant amount of things prior to release I'd agree that it seems like a much more casual entry.

[tall urchin]

It's not ridiculous when you can literally see those aspects in the leaked footage.

[feral garden]

Feels like it rotting some of y'alls brains. Over analyzing leaked videos into an inch of your lives.

[regal mauve]

you arend under nda i believe

unnlless you signed something

and even if u did leak anything they wouldnt do anything

its about what the nda requiress

if the nda doesnt alllow you to say you are under the nda then you can get sue'd

[delicate frigate]

No, man. It's just that no one wants to break their face and have to migrate to games from 7 years ago because a game doesn't meet the qualities and "perfection" that you would demand.

[feral garden]

What does this even mean?

[delicate frigate]

It's not fair that you have to play a game from 2008-2019 because a recent game can't entertain you enough to make you angry. It's a simple thing to understand.

But either way, it's irrelevant to argue about it.

[feral garden]

The last BF game was shit, but all before it are pretty good games.

It doesn't look like they are making the mistakes of V or 2042 to me.

[modern seal]

7 years ago, I was 20. 7 years ago, I didnt have kids, 7 years ago I had time to play. things have changed, games now are still good, bo6 is fun on a casual level if we’re talking about recent games. Id play bo6 over mw3 any day. But am I going back to bo1 or bo2? No. I’ll play bo6 cause I’m having fun NOW

Why did I choose to play 2042 over the last week instead of bf4? Because bf4 is old now and less fun today than the countless hrs I played back then. You crawl back to older titles for nostalgia. I pray this is a good bf game coming up.

[fair summit]

I agree, actually I enjoyed V aswell

lol

and I'm the server's 42 biggest hater

I'd say it if I did not

[modern seal]

Its by no means a good game 🤣 but its fun atm

I genuinely hope it satisfies @delicate frigate

Bf6 anyways

[feral garden]

By mistakes of those games. I mean 2042s horrid launch and disastrous gutting of all things that make Battlefield...Battlefield.

And Vs terrible marketing, launch, live service that basically fell flat on its face, and constant ttk changes.

Obviously some of those things are unknown in respect to the next game. But BF Labs itself existing as a post launch CTE will likely (hopefully) stop bad patches/changes from reaching the live game.

[raw current]

i need to enjoy 2042

[modern seal]

Hop in 🤣 portal is great

[delicate frigate]

There are some points that I have to disagree with, but I'm tired of having to argue about something that hasn't even been released yet. Well, if you at least understood my point of view, I would feel honored. Because at the end of it all, I just want the best of the franchise and to come home tired from work and go play and say: Wow, this is really good.

Let's wait for the release of the new battlefield.

[modern seal]

I agree with you. I realky hope it brings that excitement back

Hope to see you on the battlefield 🤣

[feral garden]

Bare in mind that lots play BF4 on console. Which means to this day they are playing 900p 60 FPS. BF4 aged a lot better on pc where better hardware actually allowed the game to feel better to play.

[raw current]

i pay it 100€ so i need to enjoy every single second of it

[feral garden]

At least your money will get you more than just multi-player with the next game. Hopefully the campaign is also good.

[raw current]

i get the platinum on BF4 hardline and V so i hope is good

[astral oracle]

My condolences (on being 27, congrats on the kids tho!)

[modern seal]

🤣

Turned a rather competitive gamer into a casual has been real quick tbh 🤣

Grateful tho, they’re the best! Thanks dude

[vagrant mural]

Can you put in a good word for me so I can get an invite? 🥺🥺🥺

I want to play this new battlefield so bad, it looks incredible!

[inland glacier]

Feeling the drought now

[weak obsidian]

this is probably the second slowest movement modern battlefield

[short hornet]

I can't tell if it's too slow or I just didn't know how to toggle sprint and it felt slower. I guess I'll find out

[ruby merlin]

Objectively speaking we "Crawl back" to older titles becuase they are better then 2042 💀

[weak obsidian]

toggle sprint?

[short hornet]

I had to hold down the left stick to sprint, couldn't figure out how to toggle that

[minor linden]

Idk why they act like old immediately means worse

There's a ton of "old" games that are really fun to play regardless of their age or nostalgia

[delicate frigate]

I can't wait to decimate an entire platoon with an A-10. That "BRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTT" is enough to scare anyone.

[weak obsidian]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the A-10 is not in the game

[delicate frigate]

For now?

Remember, it's labs. As far as I know, not all vehicles have been added yet.

[weak obsidian]

the F-16 takes it place

[delicate frigate]

F-22 or F-35?

[minor linden]

Damn. I'm gonna miss the A-10 and Frogfoot (I will never think about these again after today)

[weak obsidian]

F-22 is the NATO stealth fighter

[delicate frigate]

Yes, but will they still use the F-35 or will they replace it with the F-22?

Because it is unlikely that there will be only 1 plane in the game. For each team, there could be 3 helicopters and 2 fighters.

[weak obsidian]

yeah it's replacing the F-35

which is weird considering it's not just the US but whatever

[delicate frigate]

Well...

[weak obsidian]

also it's kinda lame Pax is using Su-57s...

[winter viper]

Speaking of, have we seen Battlefield2025 guy?

[ruby merlin]

Bruh stop glazing 😂😭

[astral oracle]

i know one day thats gonna be me, and im gonna teach my kids how to be the best players in the world

[modern seal]

Already on it 😉 my 3 year old daughter loves trying to play already

Its the cutest thing tbh

[astral oracle]

Lovely!

[astral oracle]

I can imagine 😭 i do hope one day they'll surpass me in gaming skill (but that won't happen teehee)

I really want kids..

[modern seal]

Ever see that meme where the kids are getting destroyed and the ons friend goes “its time…” then they call their dads to take over

I hope thatll be me one day 🤣

[astral oracle]

LMAOO it will be, im sure ya daughter will ask you for help

[modern seal]

Hope so, and I hope one day you do have kids and the same happens too you. I’ll never stop gaming regardless, although it is harder to do so for now with them so young. 3yrs and my boy is 7months -absolutely loves trying to grab the controller

Hoping labs lives up to how I felt playing 3/4, eveb if the gunplay already looks closest to 2042 (mostly why I’m playing 2042 @minor linden )

[sand moth]

haha ho boy!! was on trip, back home yesterday! Saw a email about playtest so i was ooooooo... already too late to rsvp 😂 🤣 fckkkk loll

[modern seal]

Thats so sad tbh 😭

[sand moth]

yep lol like 4h too late

[sturdy steeple]

Just wait for another email or can I download it from some where?

[pale dew]

If u find out, plz let me know 🙏

[winter viper]

Glazing? That dude owes me money lol

[static fable]

in theory today you should receive an email with download instructions, let's wait...

[pale dew]

@static fable 👍

[atomic marten]

yea he said something yesterday

[rotund viper]

man, I just saw a commentor on a video perfectly describe why I think open-weapons are bad. I can't belive I haven't thought of this because this is a common quote. They said "can't eat your cake and have it too". That is exactly why I think weapons NEED to be locked. I'm just saying this in the hopes some dice employee sees this and reconsiders this class system, just do something like BF3, this was one of the reasons why I hated 2042... the classes just feel so watered down from open waepons.

when you want gadgets there should be certain trade offs, having both a sniper and a rocket launcher just is dumb

I feel like i have to bring this up so dice still knows there is people wanting weapons to be locked

[feral garden]

Word salad.

[mossy marten]

Unlocked weapons 4 lyfe

[young jetty]

I hope weapons are not locked, it’s just shit.

[rotund viper]

omg what the hell happened

unlcoked weapons are shit

all polls had most people in faovr of locking waepons when they happened

i dont wanna see another 2042

I HATED THIS IN 2042

I WILL NOT HAVE THIS AGAIN

[feral garden]

And you wont

Good thing it's not up to you

[rotund viper]

no i specicially dont like this in 2042

man yall just wanna see battlefield crash and burn :(

[feral garden]

Bro went off the rails at the first hurdle.

[young jetty]

No they’re not having Unlocked weapons means more creativity and freedom for the players

[rotund viper]

i feel like im going crazy seeing three people with this wackass opinion

no it means you can just run around with whatever

[feral garden]

Your opinion is just weak.

[rotund viper]

and there isnt any tradeoffs

your opinion is wrong

i just gotta let dice know atleast i am not okay with this

i know there has to be others

[young jetty]

He just wants attention

[feral garden]

"Can't have their cake and eat it to" doesn't apply to video games where you can do anything you choose to do.

Bro they know some people want locked weapons. You aren't the main character

[rotund viper]

thank you, atleast you have decent points

[feral garden]

He was talking to you

[rotund viper]

just i havent seen much recently

oh

f*CK

[young jetty]

I was talking to you professor dumbass

[rotund viper]

atleast 2042 wasnt my first game

i dont want attention i want locked weapons

[young jetty]

[rotund viper]

my first was bf1, your first was 2042

[feral garden]

You can state an opinion without all caps and essentially crashing out. They read everything. But making unhinged reasoning for wanting something is just gonna make anyone reading ignore you.

[severe anvil]

It's fine to have opinions, it's not fine to attack other's opinions. Please make sure you follow the #rules and be civil with each other. Thanks. 👍

[rotund viper]

im sorry just im tired of dealing with people that want open weapons, the reasons are all the same things

[young jetty]

Ok now I understand you’re a casual

[rotund viper]

???

[feral garden]

My first was BC2 BTW. Not 2042.

[rotund viper]

doubt that

my dad has been playing since 1942 and even he says that weapons are a part of classes

[severe anvil]

You will not convince anybody by attacking them. It's also fine to think open weapons is the way to go, as well as locked weapons. You do not need to convince every Discord member. You said your piece, that's good! All you can do.

[mossy marten]

i started with bf3
Unlocked weapons 4 lyfe

[rotund viper]

bait

[rotund viper]

they just never listen

[severe anvil]

And that's their right. Nobody has to listen to your opinion if they don't want to.

[rotund viper]

i dont want to see this battlefield be ruined by dumb things like open weapons :(

[mossy marten]

nope
unlocked weapons won't hurt the gameplay loop as many might imagine

[rotund viper]

im not taking any more bait

startin now

[feral garden]

It's not your job to make someone else listen. This isn't TrexTeddy server

[young jetty]

Nah your dad probably played battlefield since BF1

[rotund viper]

then whyd you reply to me, huh?

you engage in an argument and wont listen to any points

[rotund viper]

i can load up 1942 right now

his computer has it

[feral garden]

Cos I chill and talk in this channel often. As I have interest in the next game?

[rotund viper]

with DC extended

highly doubt your more interesting in this than COD

[feral garden]

Again, it's not my job to listen to or agree with your "points". I just said your argument was weak.

[young jetty]

You literally crashed out in all caps bro

[mossy marten]

not bait
Give me reasons why locked weapons are more important/better than unlocked weapons
using medic/ammo sniper is not a valid reason, it actually is less useful than a recon sniper lol

[feral garden]

I also don't mind of they do locked or unlocked. I'll enjoy the game regardless. As long as it has good combat, gameplay, maps and modes.

[rotund viper]

i feel like it ruined 2042s gameplay

and freedom isnt always a good thing in games

[young jetty]

And after you said that your first battlefield game was BF1 I can’t take you seriously

[feral garden]

Why

[rotund viper]

i played 4 after i liked 1

and bf1 is almost 10 years old

its not too new

heck i even got 3 installed

[mossy marten]

feels are not a valid reason
give me actual gameplay reasons why it's not a good thing

[rotund viper]

this is all opinions here

[young jetty]

[rotund viper]

i cant put my finger on it, but claseses feel like gadget select instead of calsses

and at that point

just remove classes

[feral garden]

Drama queen 🤣

[young jetty]

[rotund viper]

theres no point in classes if its like half class

[young jetty]

He just said there’s no point of classes…

[rotund viper]

that wasnt my point

i want weapons locked

this is just trollling with comments like that

even hear of hyperbole

[feral garden]

It's like something a stereotype GF in a bad romcom would say.

"if I can't have all of you, I don't want any"

[nimble bridge]

Gunsmithing and unlocked weapons Why even have gunsmithing when weapons are unlocked?

[rotund viper]

my point was, water-down classes just feel like gadget select

but clearly yall are so dense you take statements at face value

[feral garden]

You've made your point, you're not changing anyone's mind with your opinion. It's not a unique thought. Let's just move on.

[rotund viper]

ok

[nimble bridge]

Everyone will use same ARs or SMGs with same meta setup if weapons are unlocked. No one will use LMGs with fast mags, no one will use SMGs with long barrels. Carbines are entirely useless since they are just worse ARs. It will lead to every class using same 2-3 weapon types with same setup.

[feral garden]

Didn't happen in 2042, wouldn't happen in New game

[rotund pier]

Except it literally did

pp29

[feral garden]

Show me proof, I can show you proof it didn't

[rotund viper]

after playing 1942 DC extended, why is it rare to see things about having mroe than 4 classes, i feel like the classes were definiately not perfect but having 5 or 6 classes maybe could be better. medic as it's own class would probably work

[young jetty]

4 classes should be the norm, no more than that.

[rotund viper]

the first battlefield had more than 4 dude

i dont see why 5 could hurt

[young jetty]

Is 1942 relevant today?

[rotund viper]

i mean it was fun

and fun is relevant

[feral garden]

There are weapons that perform better, and are better than others in 2042. But it's a lie to say that players only use 3/4 weapons. The truth is that players use a wide variety of weapons

[nimble bridge]

2042 didn't had gunsmithing

Happens in every CoD with gunsmithing, people uses same 2-3 weapons

[rotund pier]

I wish we had numbers on what guns is the most played in the game, unfortunately all I could show you is idk youtubers videos with everyone running around with the pp29 but you’ll probably go “non-conclusive.” Or some shit

[feral garden]

Record a full game or multiple with full killfeed active and send me the video. I'll tally all the weapons used and relay that data back to everyone here in spreadsheet form

I 100% guarantee there will be more than 20 different weapons used in each round.

[rotund viper]

BC2 had 5 classes i think so its not just 1942 without 4

[sour hedge]

It begin when?

[severe anvil]

This is not the place to discuss Battlefield Labs playtesting. Please make sure you read the NDA if you've been invited. 🙂

[sour hedge]

Okay, but is the place ea show me

I looking on my email

[glad trench]

I’ve been playing since 1942 too, I want unlocked weapons

[glad trench]

Lmao it’s always the BF1 tourists

[glad trench]

Comparing this “gunsmithing” (which is still WIP) to CoD’s is a leap

[rotund pier]

Mine was BC2 and I still refuse to call anything that has an open weapon pool a BF game

It’s just not right, said it before, it’s like if they released chess 2 but every piece could move like the queen

[mossy marten]

BF is less chess and more checkers anyway

[glad trench]

Congrats you’re being overzealous over one ingredient in the BF “cake” being changed and ignoring all the other ingredients that still make it a cake

[rotund pier]

Ok, you order a cheese cake and they give you a cookie cake then

[glad trench]

Except we”ve never ordered a cake. We’ve always been given the cake of the day

That’s how video games work

And art in general

[severe anvil]

Make sure you read the instructions again, especially on the general access to the playtest, as well as other steps to do. This Discord is only linked at places where you signup for Battlefield Labs, not when you're invited to it.

[rotund pier]

That’s how video games went to shit and started losing their charm yes

[hollow slate]

does anyone have any idea how it works?

[rotund pier]

Why does everyone keep breaking the NDA my god

[glad trench]

No, video games have always been the vision of the developers (cook) and not designed by committee (aka their dumbass community)

[hollow slate]

because I do not have any files downloaded and working during the day

[feral garden]

You require use of patience.

[rotund pier]

No, video games USED to be the vision of developers that wanted to make a good game, now they just want to make some cash grab

[glad trench]

Keep telling yourself that bud

[rotund pier]

I will cuz it’s the truth

[glad trench]

Most games back then were profit driven slop too

[rotund pier]

Nah

[glad trench]

You’re just remembering the games you liked

[bright lark]

Kojima watches you

[rotund pier]

Profit driven sure, slop? No

[rotund pier]

Kojima is still based

Makes whatever the fuck he wants

[rotund pier]

I’m remembering the good ones

[bright lark]

Even made war with konami and discredit him from upcoming mgs delta 💀

[feral garden]

I have not, but info from others tells me you will receive new info before anything you're scheduled to be part of starts.

Keep an eye on email, spam folder, and in the case of Gmail, the updates folder.

[glad trench]

Ya so go look at game lists from any year and look at how many low effort slop was coming out as well, purely chasing profit

[hollow slate]

Alright, thank you so much

[glad trench]

And I’m gonna hit you with some hard reality, all those games you loved, most were made to make money first and foremost

[rotund pier]

No shit people make something for money? Who could’ve guessed