#Crimson Desert - CHECK PINS FOR ADDON
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Reinstall both
Preset E looks like ass without indirect lighting. They seriously have no QA department I swear
the only thing annoying with movent was that the character would conitnue walking 5 steps after letting go of the key... the rest was fine
They were so proud of not doing on UE5 and having built their own engine, PA entry for single player open world game, but well, it seems not so much
hahahhahha
yeah thank god this ain't ue5
Not doing UE5 for this game is still a big win for overall fluidity. I don't think anyone should have expected a flawless game
I got you bb
I’ll ask them to relaunch the game
im sticking to the 1.00.03 update for now with the manifest readonly
Wait you can switch updates?
shortfuse psychov14 update:
#1469072401450012774 message
Ah got it. Good to know.
too many flaws though
For now I just force Preset D and stay on the newest version. Even if the SSDM is a bit noisy I still think it's better to have that.
Idk I feel like the game looks quite good and runs well too on my setup. I would hate it much more if I had constant shader compilation stutter and traversal stutter
Also not like Lumen would have much less issues in games that rely so much on indirect lighting
yeah tbh there are some huge set pieces in this game that perform really well without stutter
They are doing this to spite you now 🤣
QA = me

You should bill Pearl Abyss at this point haha
Can the shaders of the new version be decompiled now?
overall fluidity? I have a 5090 and I get 55-60 fps using dlss quality 🙁
Ah fuck. But understandable. Weird thing that the decomp for shaders suddenly fails.
Fluidity is not about high frame rates but stable frametimes and this game has one of the flattest frametime graphs I've seen in an open world game.
fair enough
They are updating the game almost daily. I hate to say it but it's not worth it for you and the team to work in the game because every update breaks everything you do
Sure the performance with everything turned to the max could be much better if they used modern technologies but they didn't so here we are
@subtle sinew while this worked after the game got patched and redownloaded the depot, today because there is a new update, it fails to start
which is better shortfuse one or pinned one
For now I don't like pyschov14 that much but you should try it for yourself.
nvm, enable 100% acceleration in input settings for archery (in case anybody gets stuck there)
What do you mean, are there two .addon files?
Ugh really taking their time on that one
ok probably need to manually edit the manifest to make steam think its updated again: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3517757180
I need to hurry up and get the this fukin game done
shortfuse psychov14 update:
#1469072401450012774 message
this game has no frame drops lol
should we just not update to the latest patch? Im still on the one from 29th
what?
Honestly the frame timing is pretty good
yeah unlike ue5 that going down 5fps feels like absolut shit
Like black myth wukong
A hotfix improving graphics quality when using Nvidia Ray Reconstruction and DLSS has gone out for Steam. We will continue to look into this and related issues going forward.
Check the patch notes here: https://t.co/uYxXcDRvaA
They don't stop do they
Yeah they dont stop downgrading the game I agree
noice
As someone whos too broke for rr, I've not had any issues :p
already tested, RR still ass
Its because it's "partially" fixing
Full fix will fix

I guess people with saves can't downgrade but maybe reno should recommend a game version we could all try and stay pinned on?
just updated again and logged it to make sure the game works. seems fine other than the weird artifact line across the bottom of the screen. I can live with it.
then at least you have some people who can help test
When is the patch for boss fights not being mid af
Somehow I just tested and clouds are still flickering and smoke as well. So what exactly did they fix?
i understand optimisations, but whats the point of looking in the distance if mid distance u can see ps1 textures
I was getting endless flickering pretty much everywhere last night, not seeing any flickering after updating
Maybe not so easy to pin down the issue
Ah okay I didn't play the last patch actually then maybe I didn't see the issue in the first place the meant.
Still needs work regardless 😅
anyone tested that new hotfix?
Erm have they made rain look shit now?
People keep saying this, the rain was always trash lol
I hope at some point they also improve the pop-in of clutter and stuff
its very distracting
i like the rain
The RR fucks with the rain, also they changed RR preset from D to E. Maybe you can try manually rollback RR to preset D and see if it improves for u
Reno hdr still work ?
Partially
It is definately better than it was, still prefer it disabled anyway.
Reno is working fine for me
It seems worst in hernand with all the cobble stone, some places it's barely noticeable.
Thanks, I tried the pinned one, is this one better somehow?
thats why they're uploaded, for testing. see if you prefer it
Ty ok
i'll try it, but g2g now, work
boutta test it now
🐸
LetThereBeMoreLight is still recommanded with Shortfuse version ?
dont know if it even still works with this patch but yeah its recommended with all versions as long as you use the auto exposure fix
Ok thx
well the game hasn't crashed yet that's a good sign
copying in identically named files, how would it not overwrite them?
Im a really like psycho14
I like the old "dark" version better, due to the feel of it. But I guess for playability, the custom 3 or 4 and PsychoV14 are better. I'll still play with V11 and Custom1 though
The shimmering on the edges of rocks and stone walls etc is still there
not sure what they fixed
are the clouds actually improved like they say in the notes?
I think it's about brightness mostly? perhaps
must have done something wrong because thats impossible. Just doing it now and it of course overwrites them like normal. It would have to
so right now only hdr and autoexposure work with reno?
idk man it didn't overwrite i wouldn't lie about that
I didn't say you lied, just that you made a mistake or didn't do what you thought you did. Its physically impossible in computing to copy two identically named files into a folder and have it not overwrite them.
ppl still have the shadow wich bug and low res texture ?
I know that which is why I was confused about it too
I can try adding the mod back to see if it overwrite
My game is vanilla atm
Let me just save and i'll test
I mean i just did, its not a question of "if" lmao
Maybe they changed the file name? I don't know
Well is it possible for windows to override without giving a prompt?
because maybe that's what happens
The custom auto exposure it so dark at night time lol, couldn't see shit it's way too dark to play that way
anyway I guess clouds look a bit better
and reno doesn't appear to be broken so far
i had the same problem, with RR+ any dlss (exept on DLAA but it consume too much).
One way to fix the problem is to put quality model on low, but you lose some details.
Second way to fix is by using this mode https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/256?tab=posts, it work with quality model in cinematic, all the shadow bug and blur texture are gone but still have all the detail
Also use framegen X2 max, not X3 x4
I think everything besides the render stuff works, no?
yeah that stuff was broken from 2 patches ago anyway
That being said. Cooking is much smoother after the update
Having to scroll down a bilion recipes was a terrible thing
I mean that's the only thing actually listed in the notes besides vague "blurriness" so I'll take it. At least they are working on stuff like that. Hope to see it once the second class citezens who bought it else where get the fix
they have fixed the blurriness for the dlss presets below DLAA
good to know. that and half the smoke/clouds in teh game always looking terribel on their edges were two of my biggest complaints
they did say it was a partial fix, so dlss blurriness is one thing and clouds and smoke too
Fellow Greymanes,Patch Version 1.01.02 has been prepared to fix an issue on Steam. Patch Notes Version 1.01.02Graphics quality when using NVIDIA Ray Reconstruction and DLSS has been partially improved. We will continue to look into related issues going forward.Improved screen appearing blurry in...
Graphics quality when using NVIDIA Ray Reconstruction and DLSS has been partially improved. We will continue to look into related issues going forward.
Improved screen appearing blurry in certain environments, flickering where the sky and clouds meet, and flickering when chimney smoke effects overlapped with nearby objects.
Smoke and clouds definitely look improved to me, using dlss and rr
damn we had no idea!
u so cool fren,
I think there is a bit of an fps boost too?
I can hit 50 base fps with dlss quality now, previously it was around 35-40
maybe
Are you sig the new fg model?
Makes sense
Feels much better
And pc latency seems to be better too
DLSS balanced looks more usable now, still need RCAS though
Agree. I was using 100 rcas
Now 50 with balanced is pretty good looking
yeah i decided to go with 70 for now but it does look better
even with 100 I couldn't do balanced tbh
you know that the guy you're replying to is the author of the mod you linked right? lol
I was using performance mode since the launch day

no xD thanks to him then
The blur...
Just remembering it gives me nightmares
I still prefer DLSS quality tho, night and day over balanced
with the new FG dll, 5x quality feels like a nicer experience than 4x balanced tbh
wouldnt be able to do it with m/k but controller is not so bad
I feel like at launch I needed to use Performance at 4K. At some point over the weekend I felt ok with Balanced.
optiscaler ?
Anyone found a fix to reduce the damn jittery floor?
I use optiscaler but not for fg
how do u force x5?
where is the link to the new fg dll?
i replaced dlls but i cannot use more than x4
not really related to RenoDX and this game
yea true
Hm the option should be in the menu as soon as you opened the game
I had the same issue it's because your presets are probably being forced to something else in nvpi
make sure that is set to latest
i'll try again after my work
Make sure u update all the streamline files
Make sure to disable any overrides too
so what do i do with the bin files?
Rename to their corresponding dll files
You need to rename each file in order to it's respective dll
Displacement shader is defenetly cooked, looks like shit even without RR now
can someone explain why this game only uses 7-8gb of vram ? is this some kind of capping ?
MFG 6X dll and a new patch
For console probably
Look at objects more than 10 metres away lol
It's not? Mine is sitting at 10gb now.
Ah, ok, no improvements for regular dlss i assume then, im on 4000 rtx
my 5080 is ever since on only 7-8 gb
Some people said the 2x fg feels better
Oooh hmm. Where were these sourced from? Did some game launch with them?
wait, there's been another patch after the patch 1.0 lol. Bloody ell
We received an update from our antimalware team, and the file is clean, and detection should be removed in the next couple of updates.
Bitdefender.
good news fuse, it's not broken with the patch that just dropped
where do you copy these
1.01.01, and now today there's 1.01.02
bin64 folder
Nvidia themselves release the driver files. Probably because the official update comes march 31
overrwrite the nvngx_dlss.dll files
Oh I'm into this https://www.nexusmods.com/crimsondesert/mods/435
I think the new DLSS 310.6 upscales in higher quality
Did you guys notice any of the QoL abyss changes?
so need to rename the file that downloads ?
If you want to
I can dm you the dlls
yeah to the corresponding thing
oooooh please 
I have a question, I am using the RDXC app that auto-pulls from the RenoDX Github. The pinned files here are WIP alternatives? And the app pulls only the "main/stable" release? I want to understand if I should manually copy files or I can rely on the app to update things for me.
for example if you download dlssg, rename that bin file to nvngx_dlssg.dll
Just a sec
and overwrite
where to download
also downlide the streamline folder and overwrite all first
Tbh I’m gonna get flamed for this but whatever, I just want something to remove all the challenges from the sealed abyss cores. I just don’t wanna do em
Here you go
Don’t download random dlls tho
yeah if you don't trust me just use that as a guide for what to rename them lol
alternative bloom seems broken with rain after the last round of patches
Play however you want 🤷♂️
The files he shared are signed.
I lied the rain isnt fixed, looks slightly better though
nevermind, I see in the pins it's a known issue
someguys are saying they bring the 6x framegen
remember to download the new streamline files and overwrite them as well as the dlss
6x looks way better thasn old 4x
yeah and the latency is better too
pretty insane
where
.
The top one SL 2.11.0
they aren't bin files so dont worry about renaming
I was having high expectations but I think it really surprised me in a good way
aight ty
yeah it's so unreal, "bit of a no brainer" 😂
I'm gonna need to get a 360 hz monitor to actually make use of it lol but it is nice to have
even the lower latency with 4x is good
just need dynamic FG now
Oh for sure you gonna love it. I got a 360hz oled last year and mfg is a blessing
fuck yeah, I just got a gen3 qd oled a few months back, by the time I need a new one i'll be eating good hahah
Mine is 3 gen too. AW2725DF
I would've
ahhh nice yours is pretty similar quality to mine I think they use the same panel actually
I have the samsung G8
Bought the one from MSI 360hz, but my country don't have much options
update now? @pure sundial
yea thats good bro
Seems good
tysm
This one is great too
yeah I got it for 1k nzd
pretty gnarly sale
they go for 2.3k nzd here on the samsung website
It has fewer firmware issues than mine too
I'm curious, how noticeable is artifacting/ghosting when using 3-4x compared to just 2x?
Still ass
honestly pretty much the same provided your base fps isn't lower than like 50 fps
Damn they must have nerfed the hell out of the bosses, before the patches i was reading rage post after rage post about reed devil, i got to him yesterday and beat him in 2 mins by button mashing
although 60 frames and up for best results
I think the worst part is in the borders of the image if you base FPS is too low and some UI elements
yea they nerfed him a few patches ago
Wukong was by far the worst game i've played with mfg
I agree
mfg on cyberpunk was really good
that game runs really well for how good it looks path traced
But I think it's something you only see if you look for it, depending on your base fps, of course
Yes. Cyberpunk and alan wake 2 were the great in that regard
I have 4h playtime. 4h tinkering with settings to make it look playable.
Havent even done one mission yet
Hope they fix this mess soon
im at 90 hrs last 15 have been tweaking lol
@pure sundial True, i play on mkb and mfgx3 still feels really snappy
At least you got some playtime in. Its either blurry asf with rr or shimmering like crazy without it
And everything looks ass without it
@pure sundial Some other games though it feels like you've got an anchor on your mouse lol
Makes sense, I personally only ever use FG (2x) in like Cyberpunk with PT and or Alan Wake 2 PT.
Though I pretty much never get the full 2x since GPU resources run out before the CPU could fully benefit from it lol (9800X3D & 4070 Super). 😄
yea for sure
whats that tool even never seen it before
global override
Can we use this tool to override only some games?
Never tried using it
idk I don't use it myself
Oh
doesn’t dlss swapper does the same?
dlss swapper works per game, override works for all
does this game use streamline? i overrode using the wrong files i think oopsie
pretty much
Kinda
yea
that would explain this
Ops
average mod user moment
lol what did you override with
still a better night than vanilla
You're good my game crashed the first time I tried doing it
at least it's not shimmering
Looks better then my game. Cant see any shimmering on your ss
the other download links lol, not done it manually before (DLSS / DLSSG etc)
generally speaking since this reno isnt finished, discord builds modt current
Try verifying files
@smoky brook these are my dlss just use these
And override streamline with this (SL 2.11.0)
^ this must be in bin64 folder for fgx6 to work
I run at 58-65fps without MFG and I have the same monitor. Do you recommend doing MFG? I am not sure how much more smoothness I'd get, especially as base framerate would fall.
I try to avoid MFG unless my base framerate is a stable 60+
Dont use it under 60 base fps
they bring 6x for 5000 and still 4000 series have 2x? anyone tried?
4070S limited to 2x yes
Also take into account that your base frame rate will drop as you enable FG (your typical average 60 might be 50 with FG enabled).
No new RR presets or nothing?
mfg feels pretty good for me with base 55, but thats probably more like base 45 lol using x5 fg
do i need to override these files as well as the sl. ones?
no harm in just trying it bro
can always turn it off if it looks shit
yes
use the ones I uploaded it's easier
you can upload Krish's renamed files into dlss swapper and can just do it per game that way
ok i think i did half of the right thing earlier then reverted
well dlssd 310.6 is rr
but I don't actually know what it changes
rr still has preset E and D
Saw some people on Reddit that already had like 84h in week after release.
No showering, no work, eating behind the PC. playing 12H a day 
is this dlss update for msfg users or also for 4000 series (non RR)
both of which look blurry. E even worse then D.
Can't agree with that, E looks way better
You think?
I've heard many people say E is better and many people say D is better lol
Hard to come to a conclusion
To me at least, D was too soft
What's Ur specs
7800x3d/rtx4070s
40 series
Monitor ?
yep its a lose lose situation
I tested both. E maybe slightly less issues indoors by a hair, but I noticed more sparkling artifacts on faces in one cutscene and in different locations
Its honestly preference, both has their trade-offs.
D has less ghosting while E is clearer. 
yeah E has issues with character faces
wait you talking about screen space displacement mapping or somethin else?
Do you use DoF?
If so, turn it off.
I preffer the look of no RR way sharper. But everything else is bad (armor looks soft, like wax) (lights look bad) (shadows are blinking/shimmering)
DLAA looks sharpest quality 4.5 is also ok
Shadow lod needs increasing substantially
But the shadows...
they are displacement mapping the displacement mapping
It's bad and unnecessarily low as it is
greatest game engine ever
Surprised there isn't a mod to increase the shadow distance
It's a beautiful game, it just needs refining.
because you cant
I do use dof, why turn it off?
Yeah, figured so
theres no "easy" one toggle button to increase sahdows
causes issues with E rr
Me and Laz already tried
because modding this game is really hard
I'm not using E
I don't have those issues
E looks nice at 4k on performance, with rcas at 100 it's chefs kiss
@ 25 base fps? 😛
D on performance looked like playing at 1080p
Loll yeah, nah 45-50
90ish with 2x fg
ok thats not too bad
It causes visual issues with preset E, such as stripes especially at vendors.
I have always had DoF turned off, but turns out its the cause for it. 😄
Wishing I had mfg 3x at least
Idk I will wait a few patches. Cant find a middle ground. With RR i get headache, without it flickering on all shadows and lightning and stuff.
I get it, it's frustrating.
I got it to a point that's acceptable and try to ignore the little things
is adaptive framegen out already?
No
why is my texture quality always reverted to HIGH and is model quality change still recommended?
Is 4/6x framegen even worth it? My card doesn't support it. But doesn't it cause even more latency compared to 2x?
It's improved alot, especially with the new dlss model.
It's worth it if you have a high hz display
how to implement with 4070 super?
will wait for the next gen gpu's I guess. With DLSS and framegen in some titles I can still max out like every game @1440p
4070s is only 2x
I thought there are other ways
There are using fsr frame gen but it's bad
The floor jittering got so much worse after the latest game update that it annoys me now. Any tip on improving it?
im not using preset E but good to know
Or use lossless scaling
Uninstall and wait 6 months
Which is also bad
@fierce quest Dunno about the new GPUs, latest leak i saw said the 6070, 6070 TI, and 6080 sill still have 16Gb of VRAM when the PS6 is rumoured to have 30Gb, i'm not getting 3070'd again.
only fix currently
But thats shared ram with the cpu
its definitely not gonna take them 6 months
new FG model has very slightly less artifacts. if you were at 2x before you might be fine at 3x or 4x. Also, MFG stutter seems to be fixed
Lets hope so
im optimistic
But the difference between FSR and DLSS is night an day. DLSS looks way better. Tried FSR for fun yesterday
artifacting is way worse with fsr
yeah I don't know how I'd survive with an AMD card
@fierce quest So was the was PS5's 16Gb, i still ended up with my 3070 being gimped cos games were made around the PS5s VRAM
Yeah don't don't temp me speedlemur, been itching for a 5080 .. it's just not worth the money since I have a 4080
6x works but is above my 240Hz panel and the artifacts are too much for me. frame pacing is impressively smooth at 6x, though
what about this: https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/757
2x frame gen is all you need most of the time tbh
I imagine if you are hitting base 70 on a game 6x would be pretty good
Hahaha
nobody is hitting base 70 with rr in this game though unless ultra perf
You probably can on a 5090
Ultra perf and perf isn't even too bad with dlss 4.5
yeah at 1440p
its pretty good actually
Using performance or balanced
what is the best DLSS preset for this game ? 4.5 M ?
there is no dlss 4.5 with rr
I'm at a point that if you told me the CSM was also done screen space I'll believe because everything in this game seems to be 
Oh yeah true
3440x1440 on DLSS Quality with RR gives me stable 85 fps
You are right
which card?
5090
makes sense
the higher your base frame rate the more perf cost to turning FG on, just be aware
most people using a 5090 are on 4k I would imagine
Just saying 4.5 is a huge jump quality wise from dlss 4.
with a 5070 ti I am getting like 55 base fps with dlss quality on 3440
In most games
Id hope so, it's a waste for 1440p honestly
i'm waiting for that new 39" LG with 5K2K
i mean this in a relative sense. its a fixed frametime, but that costs you more fps the higher fps you start off at
wonder what FPS will i get on it
one day I will also have a 90 card and a 5k2k
but today is not that day...
how to delete shader cache ?
so basically the new dlss is useless if we use RR?
the ppi on 39 inch 5k2k must be pretty goood
It's in appdata/local/nvidia
143 PPI or smth
oh yeah
could have been better
I know this is not much of a consolidation but on 4K, ultra perf can look just fine because 4K scales better. Performance can be almost as good as native.
Depends on your viewing distance but I've been defaulting to ultra perf more and more recently, it's hard to tell a difference. Vegetation and distant detail is the only place where it gets noticeable.
So I've been running FG free at 70 fps averages for most games, I just don't like the input lag from fg. Would it be worth with a 3x or adaptive framegen? Maybe. But if you can't get a completely stable 60 base is kinda yikes so I don't use it.
My point was if you ever consider hooking up to TV or upgrading your monitor to 4K, it doesn't mean you'll still be chasing higher input resolution. You can go much lower. It just scales so much better, upscaled 1080p on a 4K display just looks great
me too rn
nice
I use performance at 4K it looks great
i have the AW3225QF, its an amazing monitor
i was thinking of 45" curved 5K2K for real estate but mah PPI is 125
ahh yeah I'm quite happy with 34 I think 45 would be too overkill for me
what curve is your monitor?
mines 1800r
ahh is it an LG?
honestly best thing about this new FG mode might be the improved frame pacing
It would be interesting to see how 5K would scale on DLSS. 4k already looks better upscaled than anything else. I wouldn't worry about the PPI. I think going higher is a net positive
same actually, 7900XT. I went back to the previous version. I will just play the game now 
ye
LG likes 800r
Stahpp
@cyan flax If you need the previous version let me know
I received the Philips Evnia 27M2N6501L monitor for free to test.
Had a samsung odyssey g7 before that. And the difference is night and day.
This oled doesn't get as bright, but I play in dark rooms mostly. The HDR is amazing. Oled is becoming really afordable.
If anyone is looking for a $400< oled. Consider that one.
I use a 32" 4k QD OLED 165hz .. Ive been through so many monitors it's a joke
half of my PC use is work with text, so PPI is important for that and to my knowledge 180 PPI is a must for sharp text
yeah the gigabyte mo27q2 also is pretty good for an entry level oled I reckon
was looking at that until i got the sale of a liftetime on my G8
ooh nice
It's pretty good but I don't care for the tizen os tbh
Hard to run games though that's the trade off
👀
Yeah reason I didnt go for a 4K monitor is because then I also have to get a better GPU.
While @ 1440P I can max out most settings on DLSS quality/balanced. Or sometimes even DLAA.
how's the fringing on your current monitor
I did that to myself
i get jealous when people even mention SALES on tech, in my country there is no sale let alone sales on tech stuff
which country?
Had a 5700xt but wanted 1440p and then my gpu wasn't good enough anymore 😭
I'm in Australia mate
i think its same just as yours since we share same 109 PPI
yeah if its gen3 it would be
i have gen 1 OLED actually
Ah I have the G85SD
did this do anything?
mines gen1 nvm
yeah it made it look worse
I got the 360hz qd oled but I’m gonna get a glossy version of the LG if asus ever goes for it
clouds and smoke look a bit better
so as mine, probably identical QD-OLED panel from samsung
yea im pretty sure alienware uses the same panel
going to try the new reno with this patch
The thing I just cant understand is how did they not see these issues when they release the game? Like the first scene, walking to the cabin looked awful.
1 min into the game
honestly, matte or glossy is highly debatable but i have been using my QD-OLED (which is glossy) for 3 years now since its gen1 and i would prefer matte any day, most of the time i sit in dark room yet a single light or a lamp not to mention sunrays WILL turn your perfectly black oled into purple also you will see your face and those lights as if you were staring in the mirror
they probably did and just didn't care
They took 7 years to develop it, investors be like hurry TF up
yeah a lot of people hate on matte but it's never bothered me at all
Should i even use the tone mapping if I'm on sdr
no idea can't remember the last time I played any game in SDR
Couldn't tell ya it's not 2010
I think it also improves sdr
Read that somewhere
Not 100% sure though
I don't see 6x in game after updating the DLSS files to 310.6, what am I missing
I wish HDR would become the standard someday
I wish we had proper hdr
it is but a pricy one
check if your nvpi is overriding framegen
no abl monitors gonna last a week
all DLSS overrides in the nvapp is showing us 3d app setting
@rugged sequoia which shader groups do you personally keep active in your new shader toggles, all of them?
did you override the streamline files?
On MSI we got an eotf boost mode it's still crap though
shoot no, i thought it was just the 3 DLLs
yeah scroll up and download the new streamline as well
i have been considering microLED 120" TV despite horrendous price my first thought was - how many people out there who own that thing? Few hundred thousands? and how many own usual OLED?
What will i do if experience bug with such a small user base?
sweet. yeah its a .zip file so looks like renaming isn't necessary? just copy the individual files over?
yep and then overwrite
true I feel like not many people use micro led
It's not trendy
I've heard it's a good experience though similar to OLED in blacks and better colours I dunno
The ones that are active on startup in the newest update.
i really hope it will reach consumer segment asap, micro LED is superior technology to OLED or miniLED
The rest is optional depending on your settings
that is what I've been hearing yeah
it doesn't burn in by definition and even brighter than any OLED can offer
maybe in 10 years lol
but its 15k$ for 120" TV
can you even get microled tv's smaller than that
Now you gotta make another YouTube video showing what each toggle does 😅
haven't seen any
they go from 120 to 140 or smth
120"? You have to place the tv first and then build your house around it.
Gen5 is a lot better even with a lot of light, but for me personally I never felt like I had an issue with my gen1 panel with purple blacks. Def noticed it in bright lights, but I light control my office so 🤷♂️
i rly dont like the Displacement one because when sprinting, there is like a blurry line at the bottom of the screen where the displacement seems to be turning off/on. Maybe its due to my camera mod
you can't even buy micro leds in my country lol
I'll wait for PA to fix the mess they introduced with the last hot fixes.
I love the game. But at the same time I wasn't this annoyed with the tech side of a game in forever.
Wtf, here it's 40 grand
samsung didn't reach australia? can't be
oh well
no incentive, the market here is too tiny
115" micro RGB $40,000
i wish i could live in New Zealand
Haha I am grateful for being here
feels like a fairy tale country
And this is DLSS Q, just to share the new DLSS 310.6 details with latest patch + reno (disregard if clouds overbright)
true
Same, fuel cost $3 a liter
Come live in the Netherlands. Its amazing. Gas prices are 2.55 euros for 1 liter!
It's expensive to be alive
any better after the today's patch?
worse
People don't invest in stocks here, they invest in housing
at least you wont get nuked if things go really bad
wait are you fr or kidding
fr
It's the same
gas is too pricy to fuel any rockets flying that far
well I like to think that but we are part of five eyes so I guess that kind of makes us a target
idk lol
They didn't fix anything they gas lit us with "partially"
It's abit better but problem largely still exists.
All the old dudes like trump, putin all going to war, to ruin the world for us. Before they die in like 2 years tops.
ooh finally at least, W
yea its rough out here
Weird, it wasn't blury for me I was using 4.5L it was crisp as
let them 1v1 eachother
exactly
i wish bro, putin will probably be here for 10 more years, he is too young
why is this not pinned? should we use this or the pinned one for now?
and i'm on discord using vpn btw, otherwise its blocked in here
Yeah probably
yeah he's still got some life left in him
because its still a WIP
All the vodka preserved him
yeah I have to talk to my family in russia using telegram
like it looks decent now even on lower modes?
yep
Yeah this first 10 days of the game has been interesting, seems like a better project to work on in 6m - 1 year
Yeah
ill try balanced instead of quality, see how it looks/feels
better than before but quality still feels way better its night and day imo
Discussion Thread 2
i can't make threads?
I didn't know threads had a limit LMAO
Yeah you guys talk too much
there is a non blocked thing for voice/video calls called yandex.telemost if your elder relatives struggle with vpn stuff
maybe makes a text channel for this game lmao
Hahaha
oh
but threads have limits? i didnt know that wtf
I didn't know there was a limit hahahaha
make a channel for crimson desert, this game is so big its selling concordillions rn
its because the chat isnt in HDR 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're going back to channels
ShortFuse looks cute. Ngl. 🍆
is this going to get deleted or stay up
probably best to keep this up and leave only modders+ to talk (mainly to post updates) & just create a separate temporary chat for crimson desert until hype of game dies down
Maybe keep for history only
yeah there was some useful stuff in here buried
Maybe channels only for very popular games
nak, the number never goes down
I wanted to ask where do I even start but this is like a general chat of people ive never seen beforehand
Or too broken games hahaha
have you guys ever gotten this much traffic in this discord on one thread
they can view the posts though right? but they just can’t comment?
Ray Regeneration On vs Off.
Anyone knows why the game looks worse with regen on?
or post whatever
because amd sux
Is there a github repo with dev work on this? Would be a lot easier to follow for people who can't join
github and normies dont go well together
people dont know how to download from github
My theory is the executives don't look at the game in motion but screenshots
a meme theory but a theory nonetheless. Easier to market and share screens than videos. Nobody knows how bad the noise is until you see it in person in motion and DF makes a viral video about your slop
even DF had very cherry picked footage before the game dropped
well a lot of them cant read the title that says "CHECK PINS FOR ADDON" either
was about to say this haha
certainly it's easier to open github and then releases than find a discord server, find a thread within a channel, then check the pins?
To be fair if Ur not familiar with discord it is confusing
it's also a lot easier to have organized discussion on github
I still have trouble sometimes 💀 gotta admit it's not the most intuitive system
and there's no limit and it's publicly accessible
I can't imagine there's people out there familiar with github but not discord
theyve actually improved RT noise of interiors significantly in this patch
I'm familiar with a certain hub
I will have to check this
normally it looks bad when there isn't a lot of light
because of the low bounces
Raytraced or no
With rr or without?
without RR
My S95f coating is so much better than my QD-OLED monitor that I wish it used the same matte coating
nevermind im not turning off rr
Is the black flicker fixable?
not doing that to my eyes
Yes the interior noise is much improved.
John just doesn't care as much, I'm going to believe that he genuinely liked what he saw and that's about it, it isn't only DF that "skipped" on those issues, literally nobody else pointed them out until Reno here, afaik.
Is there any easy way to brighten up the nights a little with this preset
Feels like the worst of both worlds with the monitor
Did the hotfix break the Let There be Light mod ?
to be fair they didn't even take that footage themselves it was provided by PA afaik
RR looks like dog shit right now unless the last hotfix improved the stability
You know what I'm more concerned about than just interior? If I turn off RR all the trees and vegetation become an unstable noisy mess. It's horrible. Did THAT get improved?
still better than no RR
Basically can't see the tint on my tv
On the monitor I can sometimes
What dlss presets are the NO-RR clan running? Whatever the default is seems to be blurry as fuck.
true, took me a while to lacate the "pins"
i dunno im in the middle of the night rn xD. but i doubt it
dont think so
but the interior noise bothered me the most tbh
I think he did mention that he played it, they had a guy physically fly to his house and let him play, but who knows if it was only a couple of slices
Good question for @crude marsh
Yeah it was unncacptable but so was the vegetation noise once you saw it
It's the shadows I believe
yea true, idk tho I do trust them a little less after the dlss5 debacle
openly saying "we should have waited for the public opinion before making our own" is kinda crazy
yeah its the first thing i noticed, its horrible.
Yeah they completely shit the bed with dlss5, John went on a rampage on socials, distancing himself from it
There is a version floating around that works with JSON Mod Manager. I can't locate the original msg so:
Yeah pretty much all the noise is raytraced shadow noise
Yeah how do you even fix such with so much going on
What I think RR does it looks at the noisy input (like using a super low res source with low amount of rays) and says that looks bad let's put our AI sloppify filter on it (like DLSS5) and just re-imagines a stable image. Just guessing out of my ass but I think that's how it works
Sounds feasible
I think it looks worse at lower resolution, as the lighting works based off internal resolution
sounds like it could be right there's a heavy reliance on RR, it literally erases the rain while denoising
Is this the updated version ?
It is "a" version, that will always work via crimson browser / json manager. Immune to updates.
ah, thanks
Yeah so my theory is RR is not just a denoiser in a traditional sense it might be just doing the AI uplift hallucinations we've seen with 5
just need to redelpoy the mod whenever the game updates and yer golden
RR just rubs vaseline on your screen and calls it a day. Look what it does to flowing rivers, rain, leaves, anything that moves. All goes smoosh.
that would directly contradict what ray reconstruction supposedly is, which would be wild. I think it's just a terrible implementation of it by PA. RR is in cyberpunk and it's nowhere near as bad as this
As I said I'm just taking wild vibe guesses 
at this rate I'd prefer a game without RT at all and just some good ol fashioned SSDO
Yea but the environment is vastly different
ohhh there is a damage scaling mod?
Yeah nah of course, that would just be wild if it's using any form of filtering
Defenders of this tech say it saves a fuckton of work for the developers placing light sources and shit
Making building large scale like this way more efficient
rt is fine if done right, cd just isn't it, could be their engine being wonky, could be the actual pipeline and implementation, could be all,
the issue with RT in this case is that it is just so fkn low res
Probably underestimated actually how much it reduces the work?
b-but muh ray regeneration!
Can we make AMD do anything? Or is it time to say that for nvidia as well? 
I saw shortfuse upload some work with psychov14, guessing thats coming closer to being finished?
still wip afaik
fair nufff
V14 looks waaay more pleasing to my eyes. I'm still using his beta build not going back. Completely solves the dark night shadow crush for me

yeah my thoughts exactly
best iteration so far imo
I had to do a mission at night couldn't see a thing, had to revert to vanilla auto exposure.
what is the latest v14 build
Just use a second Reno profile with adjusted contrast and exposure. You dont have to go full vanilla nuclear nights 
Custom 2 ?
yea im trying it out rn with the version shortfuse posted and im liking it a lot too
i have only V11 on the last reno add on, its normal ?
Yes its still in testing
Custom3 looks good for nights
This was posted this morning I was still using last night's build
Yeah it's still so dark though man can't even see the enemies
I still max the fuck out of low light exposure limit tho
Yeah use this one it makes the nights darker but way more tolerable
I like the darker nights but that’s the dragons dogma 2 fanboy in me
Game needs to be playable first and foremost
It's nice to look at but it's not practical to play the story with
thx bro
and boiling
It’s crimson hernand
shiiiiiit
PS5 users be like what do you mean that's normal 
does the game even have a desert?
Makes sense now
i only been in that first area
Yes, and it's crimson
what have they done to make the shadows so awful? I notice they shake a fuck ton from a static light source
"the game runs and looks fine" - basically all my ps5 guys said that. Nobody complains
Thats console cope
Plebstation
Console players don’t get to complain because they can’t change anything
the vast majority of people are extremely unbothered by the stuff yall complain about in here lol
limited by their hardware
They don't know any different I guess
Unironically a better name than CD lol
We are built different
They will have their slop and be satisfied
its like my buddy who says he cant tell the difference between 720p and 4k
Not even on a pro
DF says pro is pretty decent but idk about the noise
the human eye can only see 30 fps 
How do they fix the noise issue with PISSR? Even with V2 theres no RR on consoles
They're getting frame gen too apparently soon
They don’t it’s still noisy no?
is it with RR or without? can you force preset Q with DLSSD (RR) somehow? DLSSD was also updated to 310.6
Fuck you I wanted to type first
That's my one of my friends - just use TV motion interpolation, it's smooth AF can't tell a difference - he was doing that 10 years ago and still does 💀 💀 💀
Interpolation 🤮
I wish I was that easily satisfied
i pinged you there lmao
found the relevant image
We've hit the Discord limit on forum posts
Moved to #crimson-desert
