Cyberpunk 2077

[chrome zephyr]

No, that's not the case.

[iron nymph]

Thanks, that helps a lot

I can get back to playing 🙂

[primal sonnet]

Yall need to try nrd and dlss preset L. Makes frame gen a whole lot less noticeable. Frame gen preset B

Realcolor 4 lut is super saturated

realcolor4 vs nova lut 4 with NRD + dlss L

When you're walking around slowly, RR is better, but when you're actually playing, preset L looks way better in motion.

[weak fiber]

this good?

Did not install any addons. Just the psycho 17

[fossil fractal]

Hey, having an issue with the posters, they're overexposed. Checked the settings but couldn't find anything — anyone got any idea ?

edit : its fixed

[bleak torrent]

How did you fix this? Getting the same issue

[tame canopy]

why are you using autohdr with an hdr mod?

[maiden oasis]

it's part of my preset, just uses the tone mapper to offset having to use SDR shaders with it

[tame canopy]

yeah, i definitely don't condone

[maiden oasis]

Soop's HDR converters don't work properly so I didn't have much choice

and I prefer Pumbo's tone mapper over Lilium's since it has more fine tuned control

[maiden oasis]

how did you fix it?

[fossil fractal]

It’s simple, I just removed Re Lux bc Nova 4 LUT doesn’t work well with other LUT or the ENV - and for the poster I messed around with the highlights & exposure

Until it wasn’t too dark 🙂

@maiden oasis @tame canopy @bleak torrent

Im just stupid xD

[maiden oasis]

what do you mean ReLUX doesn't work with Nova LUT 4?

ReLUX isn't a LUT nor is it an ENV

[fossil fractal]

Compatibility:

The LUT is not compatible with other LUTs. It is compatible with other mods.

The ENV is not compatible with other lighting and weather mods.

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/11622

That’s what I understood, I may be wrong idk

[fossil fractal]

Oh…

Okay So I was wrong 😑

[maiden oasis]

what values did you end up using for exposure and highlights?

[fossil fractal]

Mhh not on my pc rn but I tweaked both by like 0.40 🤔

[maiden oasis]

I'll probably have to retweak the preset again if you had to change RenoDX by that much. The goal was to make it as plug and play as possible but I'm not sure if that will ever be the case.

for me it worked fine as is so it's tough

especially when there's so many different mod combinations etc

[fossil fractal]

i just changed that

[maiden oasis]

I wonder if the issue would go away if you changed the peak brightness both within RenoDX and the AdvancedAutoHDR shader to an even 1000

someone else had an issue where adjusting the peak brightness with the advancedautohdr shader, even from 1017 to 1015, had a large impact

[fossil fractal]

mhh im trying this out

meh, same problem, im missing some details about the light and poster

[maiden oasis]

ok, I appreciate you trying

[fossil fractal]

yeah totally get it, every config is different so it's hard to make it work for everyone out of the box
that's why messing around with it yourself is honestly the best way to figure it out

but ur guild is still really good tho, explains everythings well x)

also random question - is it normal that my HDR screenshots (reshade or specialK) look way too dark when I share them on discord?
even tried converting HDR to SDR but still the same issue

[maiden oasis]

enable hardware acceleration within Discord

on mobile you'll have to fully open the screenshot to see them properly

[fossil fractal]

That's already done - when I look at my phone , it's very dark... :/

[maiden oasis]

iPhone?

[fossil fractal]

Yes, iPhone 15 pro 🙂

[maiden oasis]

does it happen even when opening them in a web browser?

I have Android so its hard for me to test this.

I have heard that resaving the screenshot with SKIV can also make them more viewable on iPhone

[fossil fractal]

example :

[fossil fractal]

yes

[fossil fractal]

also tried that too btw

might be a monitor calibration issue on my end tho 🤔

[maiden oasis]

wait

I know what it is

Discord is build on Chromium and thus has the same issue as it when it comes to viewing HDR content.

What is your SDR content slider set to within the Windows HDR settings?

You ideally want this set to around 31 to view HDR images accurately

(yes I know SDR content slider affecting HDR content???)

https://youtu.be/J9dRP5xF-Ss

[fossil fractal]

37 for me

like on my monitor with HDR on the image looks fine, but as soon as I open it on my iPhone 15 Pro it's extremely dark - shouldn't it switch to HDR automatically? and even in SDR on my monitor it's super dark too, even after converting the HDR image to SDR through SKIV

[maiden oasis]

@tranquil portal you're the only iPhone guy I know

[fossil fractal]

PNG SDR :

[chrome zephyr]

Sorry about that. I'll update the description to make that clear. The ENV has been retired.

[fossil fractal]

It’s okay :p

[chrome zephyr]

These were the files. Now archived. 😅

[fossil fractal]

Oh 😅😅

[tranquil portal]

Loads fine for me?

[celest silo]

That second photo doesn’t load like that for me either

Never mind it does now

discord bugging

[split lichen]

@maiden oasis is it the way to go
ultrapunk mod pack with nova lut 4 + Creepy Ultra HDR + Renodx

[maiden oasis]

that's basically what I'm using, slightly tweaked of course

-# 1000+ clothing mods later 😛

you'll want to tweak the preset to your liking

[split lichen]

will try to make some youtube videos

[fossil fractal]

okay nice

[smoky minnow]

this is too dark right? irl the interior would be more visible

[fossil fractal]

what did you capture it with?

[smoky minnow]

steam screenshot

[fossil fractal]

mhh personnaly, i think its a little dark in some spots

[smoky minnow]

only way for me to get it brighter is to decrease the cone response from 70 all the way to like 55

adjusting exposure and game brightness does very little

but creepy's guide recommended 70 lol

[primal sonnet]

Anyone know what the v4 box on ultra plus does

[maiden oasis]

cone response 70 is equivalent to the artist intent for the game

[fossil fractal]

it's just a recommendation to get as close to the game's look as possible, but feel free to tweak it however u want

[maiden oasis]

but of course that doesn't take into account other mods you may be using etc

but yeah that's why I went into so much detail with what each slider does, everyone has their own preference

and its possible you might want to make a few different RenoDX presets (not ReShade presets) for different situations

maybe you like cone response 70 in the badlands but prefer 55 in the city

or day vs night, sunny vs raining

Nova Optics (replaced ENV Tuner Lite) is also handy for fine tuning the lighting

[flat river]

Should I remove RELUX and Reimagined for Relux when using Nova Lut 4 then? Also I noticed Nova 4 is a bit darker than 3, cone response = 70.

[maiden oasis]

keep using ReLUX and Reimagined

especially if using path tracing

also if cone response 70 is too dark, turn it down a bit, maybe to 60-65

[chrome zephyr]

Definitely a dark area but the exposure difference is quite drastic.

[stray steeple]

@maiden oasis is it ok with You if I squeeze Your guideline link in collection description for HDR users ?

Ｎ Ｃ Ｐ Ｒ ｖ２.０ Ｎ Ξ Ｘ Ｕ Ｓ Ｔ Ξ Λ Ｓ Ξ Ｒ

Ξ Ｔ Λ = < ２４ｈ

[maiden oasis]

go for it

[stray steeple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/denzel-training-day-3

[split lichen]

@maiden oasis is psycho v17 compatible with nova lut v4

[warm knot]

My screenshots in Cyberpunk always look a little bit too saturated/bright since using renoDX with creepys reshade preset.
I installed everything with Creepys HDR guide. I have this problem with ingame screenshots (1st) and screenshots taken via reshade (2nd). What am i doing wrong? When playing everything is PERFECT.

[maiden oasis]

yeah

I tested the LUT both with and without RenoDX

[limber herald]

When you take a screenshot in-game, reshade post effects don't work (this doesn't apply to add-ons like RenoDX). This may be the reason for the different results. Try disabling post effects and compare the results.

[maiden oasis]

or just take screenshots using reshade...

but yeah don't use the in-game screenshot feature

photomode also disables ray reconstruction just as an FYI

[limber herald]

That’s kinda debatable tbh. Yeah, it doesn’t have stuff like ray reconstruction or post-process effects like film grain, sure. But on the other hand, the game takes a ton of samples/screenshots and accumulates them together, so the final image ends up being insanely clean and sharp. And when taking screenshots in-game, you can also render them at x2/x4 resolution scale, which gives you even more detail on top of that.

So yeah, I wouldn’t say there’s a clear winner here.

Oh, and one important thing. When you say people shouldn’t use in-game screenshots because Ray Reconstruction doesn’t work there, it’s worth clarifying that the real issue is the vanilla photo mode specifically. Entering vanilla photo mode is what actually forces RayRecon to get disabled.

[slender fulcrum]

Does anyone mind sharing their settings for the RenoDRT preset not Psycho-17? I kinda prefer the duller colours on faces

[old oracle]

is Psycho V-17 the new "meta" or is RenoDRT still more accurate?

[warm knot]

thanks for responding! what do you mean with vanilla photomode, as oposing to what?

[tame canopy]

PsychoV is more accurate in reconstruction of the scene if a human were there seeing those things. RenoDRT is more a scaling of Vanilla colors and hues. Offering most Vanilla like is there. Doesn't mean Vanilla is good though

[limber herald]

Appearance Menu Mod or Otis_Inf

[grim tree]

does this mean it just chooses the HDR lut automatically or do I need the lut switcher tool to choose the correct one?

[maiden oasis]

just use the LUT switcher file instead, so you can fine tune the look to how you like it with the color temperature packs.

The one that contains the LUT only replaces the vanilla LUT (will automatically switch depending on if you're in SDR or HDR). If you were to use LUT switcher with that one it would just override it

[maiden oasis]

there is actually one more important reason why you shouldn't use the in-game photomode, that isn't up for debate...it can't take HDR shots 😛

I just tested it again to make sure

so even if you're using photomode to line up your shots, you still want to use ReShade to take them

a bit of an oversight on CDPR's part

Photomode vs ReShade while in photomode

should add that to the guide as well

[limber herald]

Ehhh, that’s not entirely true actually 😄

The game itself is already capable of outputting screenshots in EXR format, so HDR data can absolutely be preserved. For some reason though, vanilla photo mode just doesn’t expose or use that properly. This mod basically overrides the screenshot export settings and lets the game save shots as EXR instead.

[maiden oasis]

that mod doesn't work with HDR

I tested it 😛

I even asked the mod author about it and they said it was a limitation of the game

you used to be able to use Nvidia's Overlay to take EXR shots but that work around was a bit of a hack and it doesn't even work anymore

[limber herald]

What do you mean by “doesn’t work with HDR” exactly?

[maiden oasis]

it doesn't output HDR shots

it might be EXR, but that EXR image is not HDR itself

do you play the game in HDR?

[limber herald]

In the context of EXR, “HDR” vs “SDR” isn’t really a strict distinction. EXR stores channel data as linear float values. So when you say the result “isn’t HDR”, do you mean the values are being clamped to SDR range during export or something along those lines?

I’m a bit skeptical that’s actually happening, especially since I haven’t noticed it visually myself. But I’ll double-check it just to be sure.

[limber herald]

yes, of course

[maiden oasis]

I'll have to try it again since I haven't bothered with it since December but I distinctly remember it having issues.

[limber herald]

I double-checked it. The EXR files are definitely preserving HDR data correctly - there are tons of values way above 1.0 in there. So maybe the issue was actually with the EXR viewer/reader being used?

Honestly, I’m not even sure what image format would survive Discord without breaking the HDR metadata 😅 I tried AVIF and UltraHDR as a test, but Discord converted both into WebP, which obviously ruined it. And JXL doesn’t even seem to be recognized as an image format there at all...

[maiden oasis]

so I tested it again. The EXR files do come out in HDR so that was just me misremembering the issue.

I did a test without any other ReShade shaders applied (as per the description these aren't supported by the mod) however it doesn't look like all the colorgrading from RenoDX transfers over to the EXR file

ReShade vs EXR Export to HDR PNG

hold up, let me fix the thumbnail lol

Affinity Photo 2 bug 😛

[maiden oasis]

HDR PNG is what I recommend

[limber herald]

I’m not really trying to argue that everyone should be using the native screenshot tool or anything. EXR workflows are definitely more of a hassle to deal with. But for some people it can still make sense — especially if you want an insanely sharp image at a ridiculously high resolution.

[maiden oasis]

oh for sure

for the average person this wouldn't be something I would recommend regardless

it possible I was using a buggy test version back in December

if IGPT supported HDR PNG it would be much better

[limber herald]

Could also just be a colorspace mismatch. Maybe some metadata got lost during the EXR → PNG conversion or something along those lines - like BT.709 vs BT.2020 handling getting messed up.

[maiden oasis]

it's possible. I don't really deal with EXR images much, mainly because of the hastle and lack of programs that properly support it

Affinity Photo 2 is alright

if you're going to further tweak it then it makes sense to use it, but if you want an easy solution for exporting an image how it looks in-game, probably not 😅

I just use Otis' tools and I can just hotsample that way

even though you have to brute force the resolution you want

[limber herald]

Seems unlikely to me. All this mod really does is call the engine’s own screenshot function, just with slightly different parameters 😄

By the way, what exactly do you mean by “PNG HDR”? I know PNG recently got support for HDR-related metadata, and I actually experimented with it a while back. But at the time literally no image viewer seemed to support it properly. Does Discord actually support that now?

[smoky minnow]

which is which? the left pic looks over exposed

[maiden oasis]

HDR PNGs, also known as PNG v3 I believe, supports HDR and will automatically tonemap to SDR.

The problem is what can view it. We typically recommend using SKIV, which is a program bundled in with Special K, to view HDR PNGs locally on your computer. Discord does support the format, however it requires desktop users to enable hardware acceleration. Mobile and web users will see a washed out image and need to fully open them in a web browser to see it properly in HDR.

Discord as a whole is also influenced by Window's SDR content slider, so keeping that around 31 is best for accurate viewing

You can also use Pictureflect photoviewer https://pictureflect.com/download

pictureflect is handy because it can export images into other formats, and do some limited HDR image editing which is cool. Can also export as an Ultra JPG (JPG with gainmap)

[limber herald]

For my phone I actually had to make a converter into the UltraHDR format myself 😅

[maiden oasis]

HDR AVIF sort of works on Discord, but anything higher than 8-bit won't look right even on the desktop version

but if you fully open them in a browser it will look fine

so yeah it makes sharing HDR images a complete pain in the ass lmao

[maiden oasis]

left is photomode, it gets outputted in SDR and doesn't tonemap it properly which is why it looks like that

[smoky minnow]

ah ok

what about steam screenshot?

[limber herald]

Doesn’t really work for HDR though - it only exports screenshots in SDR format.

[maiden oasis]

Steam does support HDR AVIF now

though the thumbnails look horrible lmao

you can fix that by resaving the image with SKIV

personally I would just stick with ReShade for most use cases

[glad dune]

there's also this viewer
https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pgn3nwpbwl9?hl=en-GB

[smoky minnow]

my steam screenshots are saved in jpg

are we cooked 😩

[maiden oasis]

one sec

[tranquil portal]

Heard this was broken.

[maiden oasis]

last time I tried Steam AVIFs all my thumbnails were red 😛

[glad dune]

it opened hdr pngs just fine last time i tried, didn't try other formats

[smoky minnow]

ah you can't upload them

unfortunate

[maiden oasis]

you can't?

[smoky minnow]

it says save external copy

so implies its not uploaded?

[maiden oasis]

maybe not uploaded to the steam cloud

Conan Exiles HDR Avif (I have cyberpunk via GOG)

why is the thumbnail red

the steam screenshots do capture reshade as well, which is nice

Cyberpunk JPG with GainMap

I wish ReShade outputted in that format

the file size savings is huge

[tame canopy]

avif is best

gain map is itm

[maiden oasis]

true

just sucks AVIF isn't supported in more places

[tame canopy]

just apple iirc

[maiden oasis]

AVIF
8 vs 12 bit per color

the 12 bit one won't look right on Discord, but I think Apple users will be fine

apparently 8bit is blacked out for iPhone

[fossil fractal]

I approve

[tame canopy]

discord likes breaking previews, but fullscreen is usually untouched

[maiden oasis]

I just wish it was more consistent with mobile users

[celest silo]

It’s not blacked out it’s just insanely dark

Like you can barely see 8bit

[unkempt cloud]

Never knew reshade screenshot is this good

[maiden oasis]

yeah HDR screenshots were added in ReShade version 6.4

[unkempt cloud]

How do I have it take hdr? mine doesn't seem to be

[maiden oasis]

If you're playing the game in HDR then you should have two options within ReShade: HDR PNG and JXL. Both will take HDR screenshots but only HDR PNG is supported on Discord. The Windows photoviewer cannot view HDR PNGs though so you'll need to use a third party viewer like SKIV or Pictureflect Photo Viewer

Links to both: https://www.hdrmods.com/HDR-Link-Library

[unkempt cloud]

Ahh, I've been viewing the screenshot in windows photoviewer

[split lichen]

Or chromium browser with 31 sdr brightness

[warm knot]

Is 31 SDR a good standard or does it require some calibration as well?

[worldly thistle]

It's preference, but 31 is required to view HDR screenshots in chromium apps at the correct brightness

[maiden oasis]

yeah generally I say don't put it at 0 or 100 and expect things to look right. 31 is the "magic number" because it equals 204 nits paper white, but if you're in the 30-40 range it should be close enough

[undone compass]

what settings does everyone use for film grain?

[maiden oasis]

I like to keep my film grain pretty light. Perceptual within RenoDX at like 20-30.

[celest silo]

For the preset that we change in the nvidia app, there isn’t one for ray reconstruction so I assume the guide is talking about super resolution?

[minor compass]

i change my RR Preset either with Nvidia profile inspector or DLSS Swapper

[maiden oasis]

I thought the Nvidia app allowed you to do it but I just checked and it looks like it doesn't. But yeah I just use DLSS Swapper

[undone compass]

cone response 70 looks great but super dark in shadows, any other recommendations? also i know cy posted maplutbegone, but the map is still super washed is there any way this can be fixed?

[maiden oasis]

I use MapLUTBegone combined with HUD Painter's map color tweaks

but I also prefer the realistic map which gets affected less by the issue

as far as the cone response 70 being too dark, do you also have the EOTF Emulation set to On?

if so I would change it to UI/Menu only or off

if you're using Nova Optics / ENV Tuner then you'll also want to tweak things

ultimately it's user preference and what looks good can vary depending on mods used, display settings, and overall preference on how you like the game to look

[undone compass]

thanks, yeah i had sdr eotf on , do you have a preset for hudpainter map colors?

[maiden oasis]

I can check what I have mine set to when I get in-game later but overall I think I just adjusted the contrast a bit

[real cloak]

Hi people!
so I love RenoDX and I'm currently using the installer and ReLimiter in various games, it is a great experience.

Today I tried updating the latest Cyberpunkl version of RenoDX from the message pinned in this thread and I find it extremely different from the previous versions... I'm trying to follow a guide to understand how to properly set it up but to me it looks like, following the guide, I'm getting both way higher visibility for extremely dark areas AND a somewhat washed out image? I guess I'm doing smth wrong. My monitor has no black crush issue

[maiden oasis]

if you're using my preset disable it if you're testing with it

just so you get a solid baseline

[real cloak]

I'm trying to fiddle with it a little bit and I'll keep you posted... I have a hunch it is not reading my monitor calibration correctly too... I'm in the HDR Game preset for F06 firmware of a gigabyte mo027q28g and I calibrated a profile to 1020nits in windows calibration app

[real cloak]

thanks

[maiden oasis]

yeah I would rather you blame it than Reno 😛

[real cloak]

yes, I'm following this guide:

https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk

[maiden oasis]

ok nice, that won't have my preset in it so you're good

there's some troubleshooting tips in the end of the guide but feel free to post some screenshots of what you're seeing along with your renodx settings

I have to go run some errands but I'll check them later or maybe someone else will be able to help in the mean time 🙂

[real cloak]

I'll play with settings some and keep you posted; I've been a fan of visual hi-fidelity since always so I'm used to look at pretty much almost reference level calibrated images and I originally played 2077 on a perfectly calibrated IPS, then in HDR on the new monitor (which is honestly working great for me) and I resorted to RenoDX HDR because the original in-game HDR was too messy

[real cloak]

ok, I gave the wrong link, I was trying to follow your guide here: https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk-Creepy-Preset

My bad, I need to follow a couple extra steps I didnt ._.

[maiden oasis]

all good, I got some thoughts on how to further improve the guide but it'll require me to take a lot of screenshots

and maybe do a video guide....

-# don't expect the video guide to happen unless I'm super bored

[maiden oasis]

that's not related to RenoDX, I would try asking in Ultra+ 🙃

[ebon oak]

yah lol

[maiden oasis]

😛

all good

[amber patio]

Hey, do you guys get these disco light effect with Ultra Plus mod before the light settles? Happens mainly when you move the camera fast or stand next to a wall then reveal a room right behind it. The first vid is on a custom Vortex profile with just Ultra Plus and the required mods active. The quality setting doesn't make a difference, but I put it on Insane quality regardless for the video. If I then add reLux and whatnot the effect will appear more pronounced (2nd vid).

[maiden oasis]

what graphics card do you have?

I think I've seen other people mention it in the Ultra+ server

might be better off asking there

[amber patio]

I got a 5070 ti, and I have seen this bug before randomly and I would just restart the game and it'd fix itself, but I updated the mod today and now its just permanently like this

[maiden oasis]

reason I asked is that I saw the denoiser was set to vanilla

typically with Nvidia cards you want to set that to one of the RR options

[amber patio]

Oh yea its usually set to one of the ray reconstructions, I was tinkering with every setting to see if this lighting bug was related to one of the options

I still have the game open and changing to them did nothing

[maiden oasis]

https://discord.com/invite/UltraPlace

Sammi is active in the Cyberpunk channel over there

that's where you'd want to get Ultra+ support

a lot has changed with the recent versions so I'm not sure

[amber patio]

Ok I joined

[wispy falcon]

@maiden oasis I really appreciate the work you put into the guide. I'm having a bit of an issue when it comes to the reshade effects and was hoping you had a sec. In 1-6 after selecting your preset in the ReShade update/effects, you say it will automatically pick deband, zenteon's local contrast, zenteon's sharpen, pumbo's advancedautoHDR, and lilium's HDR analysis shaders, but the only boxes that get selected are Standard effects, ReShade HDR shaders by Lilium (lilium_rcashdr.fx), and ZenteonFX Shaders (ZenteonLocalContrast.fx, ZenteonSharpen.fx).

Deband isn't an option anywhere here, though I can check it in the ReShade menu in game, and Pumbo's Advanced AutoHDR is there in the update list, but not checked by default, and even if I manually check it, it doesn't show up in the in-game reshade menu. I'm not quite sure what I'm missing here. Any idea?

[maiden oasis]

Deband is actually one of the default shaders that are automatically picked if you download any other shader. It's part of the standard effects

I should have added a screenshot for that step

GitHub link: https://github.com/crosire/reshade-shaders/tree/slim

[wispy falcon]

The part that's really tripping me up is the Advanced AutoHDR that just doesn't seem to show up. If I download it directly (I think https://github.com/Filoppi/PumboAutoHDR is the right one?) and drop it into right bin like the Azen PreCorrect and Film grain ones, would that work?

[maiden oasis]

yeah that's right

[wispy falcon]

It seems like the problem was that the ReShade updater was dropping AutoHDR into a subfolder within the shaders folder. I pulled the files out into shaders and it's showing up now. Thanks

[maiden oasis]

it's partially my fault because I hid this in a dropdown

I didn't realize I never actually stated you should do this

the ** at the end tells reshade to look in all subfolders

[stray steeple]

@chrome zephyr Hey, would You mind uploading this [FIX](#1434377434022809610 message) on Nexus ? Would like to add it to collection.

[chrome zephyr]

Sure, if you can remind me tomorrow. 😄

[stray steeple]

Ofc, no probs. EU time zone here 🙂

[chrome zephyr]

!remindme 12 hours

[shell blaze]

Missing argument after the time.

[chrome zephyr]

Oh, that's a real thing here?

!remindme 12 hours Upload MapLUTBegone to Nexus.

[shell blaze]

New Reminder | ID:91362278

Alright thecyanidex, I'll remind you in 12 hours about:

Upload MapLUTBegone to Nexus.

[stray steeple]

apparently it works 🙂

Thanks man

[primal sonnet]

Use disable sharc blending, rr clean, edit the denoiser.ini file for Rr clean to be 24 previous frames (was 32) , use high streaming.

find this line under rr clean: Editor/Denoising/ReLAX/Indirect/Diffuse/MaxAccumulatedFrameNum = 32
Editor/Denoising/ReLAX/Indirect/Specular/MaxAccumulatedFrameNum = 32

and change it to 24

\Cyberpunk 2077\bin\x64\plugins\cyber_engine_tweaks\mods\UltraPlus\config

denoiser.ini

Also, go to nvidia control panel, go to manage 3d settings, program settings, cyberpunk 2077

Then change anisotropic filtering to 8x or 16x.

Go in game and make it 1x in game

[chrome zephyr]

Nexus uploads seem to be broken right now. I'll try again later.

[chrome zephyr]

Done. 😉

[stray steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/kojima-clap-kojima-gif-26545378

Thanks

[novel hinge]

https://youtu.be/m0SJ9i9RtRg?si=uU_KttBG79EBXQk6

A rare DF great video with the devs deep diving into their engine

[amber patio]

Ty for your help, I tried your fixes and it seemed to be the same, I think Ill just use PT21 setting instead of NextV4, this issue seems to be purely exclusive to NextV4 for some reason, and after doing A/B comparisons PT21 seems marginally identical while being a lot more playable in movement (1st image: Vanilla setting in mod; 2nd image: NextV4; 3rd image: PT21

[primal sonnet]

Use pt20 its faster

No reason to use 21 when its just as slow as next and is worse visually. Pt20 medium is the sweet spot for fps and quality imo

[amber patio]

Oh yea it does

Whats the purpose of NextV4 then? All of my issues with the disco lights came down to it

[primal sonnet]

Also update the nvidia sdk

Nextv4 is for 5090 people

For screenshots and stuff

You are having those issues because your fps is too low and nextv4 adds more bounces

So its calculating the extra bounces

When you do that

And that takes time to update

Its also more accurate to the material

So light bouncing off rougher surfaces is more accurate to real life

[amber patio]

Yea I figure even with a 5070 TI it shouldn't be doing those issues, but seeing it in screenshots with barely any quality difference.... I dont see how the hassle is worth

[primal sonnet]

Well a 5090 has double the horsepower of a 5070ti

So you go from 30 to 40fps base to 60-70fps base and those issues arent noticeable

Are you on 4k or 1440p

[amber patio]

Ohh so the disco lights are related to FPS, so the higher the fps the faster it updates and less noticeable it is?

[maiden oasis]

no it's not. V4 itself doesn't cause much more overhead. Going from Fast to Insane uses more FPS

[amber patio]

I'm on 4k Dlss perf

[primal sonnet]

Try switching to next from pt20

It lowers fps by a ton

[maiden oasis]

maybe

[primal sonnet]

Same quality level

[maiden oasis]

almost

PT20 is faster than PTNext sure, but if you're on a higher quality setting try lowering that first

sometimes PT20 is pretty close in performance to PTNext

[primal sonnet]

No im saying using the same level of quality (med) and only switching from pt20 to next

You get an insane boost in fps

[maiden oasis]

you mean PTNext to PT20 right? And it varies

[primal sonnet]

I go from 35-40 base with 4xfg to 55-60

Yeah pt20 with v4 check to ptnext with v4 checked

[maiden oasis]

that's not the same thing

[primal sonnet]

Pt21 is same performance as ptnext roughly

[maiden oasis]

when you say you're going to something, that means you're switching to whatever comes after the to

so unless you're saying changing it to PTNext lowers your FPS

[primal sonnet]

Yeah I go to 55 to 60 when switching to pt20 from ptnext

[maiden oasis]

so PTNext is faster than PT20 for you?

[primal sonnet]

Ptnext gives 35 to 40

No

[maiden oasis]

is English your first language?

[primal sonnet]

Ptnext medium quality gives 35 to 40 fps

And pt20 medium

Gives 55 to 60 fps

When I have 4xframegen on but only looking at base fps

Using dlss performance at 4k

On 5070 ti

@amber patio

Im also on 5070ti dlss performance, but i have LOD mods

[maiden oasis]

gonna be honest, I would take this guy's advice with a grain of salt

I've literally switched from PTNext to PT20 sometimes and it barely changed the FPS. It really depends on the situation

and what version of Ultra+

[primal sonnet]

Latest buuld

From discord yesterday

[amber patio]

Well I've tried everything and I can't make NextV4 stable with movement, I keep getting the disco lights effect, and that's not present with pt21 or 20, so I'll use one of those 2. It's not really a fps issue for me because I'm on a C5 OLED so I can frame gen to 137 fps really easily

[maiden oasis]

when I tried V4 it had some weird lighting issues

but I also haven't upgraded to the more recent discord builds

so that makes sense

[primal sonnet]

Check base fps on pt20 vs pt21. Not worth it imo. You also need nulled lights mods and relux

[maiden oasis]

that I do agree with. Typically you'll want to use PT20 or PTNext

[amber patio]

I tried their v9.0.0 build and the light issues are still there, but I like one of their new settings, the increase mesh LOD

[maiden oasis]

yeah the LOD stuff is nice

Vanstorm was showing me

[primal sonnet]

Do you have all of the nulled fake lights mods

[maiden oasis]

Sammi is definitely cooking

[amber patio]

Yea

[primal sonnet]

That are recommended

Hmm. Can you show your ultra+ settings both tabs

[maiden oasis]

btw, Sammi is in the Cyberpunk channel right now in the Ultra+ server

[gaunt kelp]

No it isn’t. lol I’ve used Next Insane on a 4080 for ages, including v4. It’s still the most accurate mode, though not as performant. PT21 is darn close in fidelity with a bit better performance. PT20 is a bit behind both these days.

[gaunt kelp]

[primal sonnet]

I know, but im talking about for a consistent experience

You are agreeing with me. Its not as performant

[gaunt kelp]

So am I. I play on Next Insane all the time. I have for two years.

[primal sonnet]

If im using fg I rather have as close to 60fps base for lower input delay

Pt20 lets you have that with medium

On 4080 level hardware at 4k

Using 2x fg i get closer to 45-50 fps with nextv4 but 4x lowers it even more.

To 39 avg sometimes dipping to 30s

[gaunt kelp]

No, I fixed your incomplete assertions: PT21 and 20 are fore performant because they’re less accurate/lower fidelity.
Just because you like one to suit your particular needs doesn’t make it better.
You plainly said Next v4 is only for 5090s and screenshots. That’s completely untrue, which is the point I was making.
All you’re doing is spouting nonsense.

[primal sonnet]

Well, I for one, have standards to how my game should feel and look. Not just look.

[gaunt kelp]

So do I. I still get plenty of FPS too.

[primal sonnet]

Just because its playable doesnt mean its enjoyable. You can get the best of both worlds with pt20

Because with 4x fg you can get the smoothness of 200fps, but the overhead makes it feel terrible, so using pt20 brings that little bit back.

And 2x fg isnt as good when you compare it to 4x because the input latency is similar but 4x is much smoother.

Or 3x

3x is sweet spot

[gaunt kelp]

You might try 21 at the same quality level you use for 20. It oughta look at bit better and perform around the same. Worth a try I’d say. If not you could always swap back.

[primal sonnet]

I have

That's what im saying. I've tried every combo and pt20 medium gave me the best fps to quality balance

Fast makes dark areas not gather light and next/21 shaves off a ton of fps compared to 20 for a noticeable, but small increase in accuracy

[gaunt kelp]

Well, that’s the nice thing about options: you can tailor it to your specific needs. I used PT20 High and Insane for quite a while until I swapped to Next a couple years back.

[primal sonnet]

Its easy to see the quality difference, but the difference between RT and PT is higher, so getting pt to look good and run good was my goal

[maiden oasis]

yeah if you can run PT that makes a huge different regardless of modes

anywho, this has been fun

[gaunt kelp]

No doubt. It was rough going back to RT or raster whenever I’d be doing testing.

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[maiden oasis]

I think its better if people stick with using the Ultra+ server for support. That is why I sent SilentStriker there

both servers share a lot of members but this channel should mainly stick with RenoDX

[gaunt kelp]

Indeed. Here is for Reno!

[primal sonnet]

Yeah any of you guys use the dlss adon for renodx. I just downloaded the modded reshade hdr app and it seems that the addon doesnt work

Is it just a general addon, not made for cyberpunk

[maiden oasis]

I don't use it but you can ask about it here https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1413548071987576862/1413548071987576862

I don't use FG because I'm on a 3090 that is stuck with FSR FG which sucks

[primal sonnet]

Ok its for UE games nvm

[amber patio]

Yea apologies, just glad I was able to solve my issue

[maiden oasis]

all good man, that wasn't really directed at you. I'm just glad your shit is working lol

[primal sonnet]

What was the fix? Was it installing the newer ultra plus version

[amber patio]

Nah, switching from NextV4 to anything else

NextV4 to me creates the disco lights artifacts in a lot of places

[primal sonnet]

That effect is actually how its supposed to work. Did some digging, and because next uses reGIR instead of reSTIR, those artifacts are from the gpu taking time calculating those rays in a 3d space.

@amber patio

[maiden oasis]

[primal sonnet]

https://tomclabault.github.io/blog/2025/regir/

[maiden oasis]

can we please take this to the ultra+ server

I'm sure Sammi would be happy to explain

[surreal folio]

Do you guys recommend HDR Peak 1000 or True Black 400 mode for Cyberpunk

I was considering making hotkeys to switch between them for when the game is in daytime vs night

But if I could only pick one what would you say

[maiden oasis]

it won't be as easy as making hotkeys since you'd need to change the RenoDX setup for each mode

so at the very least you'd want to make two different RenoDX presets

I think which mode you'll like depends on the monitor. You're going to experience more aggressive backlight dimming with the peak 1000 mode vs the True Black 400

True Black will be less bright overall, but more consistent. Peak 1000 mode will have brighter highlights but if a scene is bright as a whole then the screen will dim a bit

personally I would try both and see what you like better

[wild narwhal]

Hey! So, I'm fairly new to modifying Cyberpunk in general. I've installed RenoDX and tweaked it and everything works great, except that when I opened the map I noticed it being too bright/washed out. I found in the pinned msgs something called MapLUTBegone, and I thought that might fix it, but I don't know where to drop the file for it to work.

[maiden oasis]

it actually just got added to the nexus

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/29837

so you can just install that with a mod manager

alternatively extract the pinned mod to your cyberpunk installation folder. Cyberpunk 2077>archive>pc>mod>#####MapLUTBegone

[celest silo]

wasnt there a fix someone posted here

what if we used that

[maiden oasis]

it's the same mod

[celest silo]

o

[maiden oasis]

just uploaded to the nexus

[wild narwhal]

I see. I thought that might be it seeing that the structrure inside the zip is the same as in the archive folder, but for me the mod folder doesn't exist. Am I supposed to create it?

Also, thanks for the help! ^^

[maiden oasis]

if you're just installing it to the vanilla game then you can just paste the archive folder into it and you should be fine. That's why its organized like it is already 🙂

for example with my GoG loadout

[wild narwhal]

But inside the archive folder inside my game are also 2 other folders, will it be fine if those are deleted?

Please excuse my ignorance

[maiden oasis]

yeah that's normal

content = vanilla game files
ep1 = Phantom Liberty files

then mod = modded archives 🙂

[wild narwhal]

So those can be deleted np

[maiden oasis]

if you don't want your game to work lol

[wild narwhal]

fair enough xD

[wild narwhal]

Gotcha, ty ^^

[surreal folio]

Yeah I know that but Im pretty sure I can hotkey that too, I'll have to see

anyway I know how the different modes work but I was just wondering what people thought in their experience with the two modes

[vital night]

Hey chooms, I've been wanting to play the legacy 1.63 version of the game, but naturally renodx doesn't work with it. Is there a version that might work on 1.63?

[tame canopy]

i only modded 2.x shaders

[vital night]

Ah, I see. Thank you

[hybrid pawn]

just got a desktop notification when I launched the game that said cp2077 might not work properly due to renodx having an unknown publisher or something

and then it said this in game

and it crashes when i try to load a save

nvm i got it to load but renodx is def not working

[maiden oasis]

can you post your reshade.log for me?

you'll find it in the /bin/x64 folder or if you're using MO2 you'll find it in the overwrite folder within MO2 itself

[hybrid pawn]

like post the file itself here?

[maiden oasis]

yeah

[hybrid pawn]

I unblocked renodx in file properties but it didn't fix

ok I just restarted my pc after unblocking renodx and it worked lol sorry

[maiden oasis]

what version of RenoDX are you using?

the one pinned here?

[hybrid pawn]

cursed github one, I tried the new psycho one and it looked too washed out for me

[maiden oasis]

mashed out?

you mean washed out?

[hybrid pawn]

yeah lol

[maiden oasis]

did you follow my guide at all for things you need to adjust in-game?

[hybrid pawn]

yeah I did and still preferred old one

all good

[maiden oasis]

all good, if you're happy 🙂

[hybrid pawn]

👍

[tepid galleon]

[maiden oasis]

the windfarm is good for shots

[tame canopy]

Oof. Was going to rewrite eye adaptation, but the LUTs are so ass

Everything is blown out white

Street lights are inconsistently purple or orange but their LUTs are so bad they blow out white

[formal orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monsters-vs-aliens-speechless-what-i-do-what-we-gon-do-bout-that-gif-5698728855178858064

[unkempt cloud]

If you were to rewrite eye adaptation, then that would conflict with Cyanide's, yeah? Iirc he integrated and changed eye adaptation

[tame canopy]

probably not. would nuke whatever vanilla does

[gilded stirrup]

I've been using the new PsychoV addon since today, where is this guide?

[maiden oasis]

https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk

[gilded stirrup]

thank you ❤️ it honestly looks really good already with the default settings (i'm playing on the highest settings with path tracing and ray reconstruction)

[gilded stirrup]

i have followed the guide and adjusted everything in accordance with PsychoV-17

it's crazy how much better it looks now i can't believe it lmao

[maiden oasis]

glad it helped 🙂

[bleak granite]

[bleak granite]

Does anyone got a .ini for shadertoggler to disable the hud ? Thx in advance

[maiden oasis]

the Limited HUD mod has an optional version that just adds a toggle to remove the HUD

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/2592?tab=files

If you pay for Otis tools that will also do the trick

[bleak granite]

[maiden oasis]

[gilded stirrup]

hey guys, is there a way to take high quality HDR screenshots? the screenshots that i take look like shit

[fiery spire]

If youre using renodx, you should use Reshade for HDR PNG screenshots

[placid pebble]

What RR preset everyone using? D or E? Which one the best?

[fiery spire]

preset D (default), E has some banding issues, especially in the sky

[fossil fractal]

If you are using DLSS Ray Reconstruction (aka Nvidia users) then I highly recommend using Preset D. This will have much less banding issues, especially in the sky, compared to the newer Preset E. Preset D is what the game uses by default. You can set this via the Nvidia App DLSS Override feature (Graphics > Program Settings > Cyberpunk 2077 > Driver Settings) or a third party program such as DLSS Swapper.

Ray Reconstruction is highly recommended to be used in Cyberpunk when path tracing is enabled, otherwise you’ll notice quite a bit of specular artifacts known as noise. AMD / Intel users can make use of the NRD mode found within the Ultra Plus mod as another denoiser option.

Ray Reconstruction gets disabled when using the game’s photomode. This is a bug in the vanilla game and is not mod related. If you like to use the game’s photomode, then set the DLSS SR preset to M for better quality.
https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk

[gilded stirrup]

i'll check that out thanks

[placid pebble]

What about motion clarity? Isn’t E supposed to have a better clarity and ghosting is reduced compared to D?

[gilded stirrup]

i'm using PsychoV-17 (renodx) and i followed the guide, there's no noticeable ghosting at all

[placid pebble]

Really wonder why the Ultra+ community say it’s recommended to use E

[maiden oasis]

because a lot of them use SDR

though we do have quite a few people using HDR over there as well

ultimately it comes down to user preference. Some people prefer using E along with the Deband shader, but D just tends to be better for HDR most of the time

its possible that if you're using frame generation that decision might be different

but I'm not able to utilize it so I can't really test it

[placid pebble]

What are the differences really between the 2 presets tho?

[maiden oasis]

probably just how the models are trained. I'm not sure of the technical details though

[placid pebble]

I only seen some people saying E is better in terms of ghosting and clarity but no idea if it’s actually true or not

[maiden oasis]

can always try both

I'm more into taking screenshots so motion clarity isn't something I care about much anyways

but what I've said about each preset seems to be true based on the number of people that have switched from E to D

I have a feeling that if you have a really high refresh rate monitor, combined with the super high frame gen, then maybe E could be better but that's just me theorizing

[placid pebble]

I did, but honestly i can’t tell much difference other than E has some weird corona effect on white ads and bellboards. I also use a flash light mod and i did notice less ghosting when moving the flashlight from side to side with E, but that’s all i noticed

[maiden oasis]

interesting

[placid pebble]

I think i’ll go back to D and see if it makes a difference. It’s true D overall is more stable but just going by what people are saying

[worldly thistle]

Motion clarity between D and E is the same I think, no significant difference there. E has less boiling, but has issues in games where it isn't officially implemented (checkered pattern in sky in Cyberpunk) as well as some oversharpening at times that I've noticed

[supple pewter]

@zealous viper Bro which one is lastest?

[maiden oasis]

#1434377434022809610 message

https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk

[maiden oasis]

btw, why did you ping him of all people?

just check the pins in any of the mod threads in this server and that'll get you the answer 99% of the time

[zealous viper]

I was randomly summoned for jury duty lol

[bleak granite]

personal preference in the end. i tried both and stick with preset e , using hdr

[placid pebble]

I see, care to elaborate why exactly you stuck with E?

[gilded stirrup]

this looks so good that it made me start over my current 80+ hour playthrough lol

[amber patio]

not me installing the main mod then wondering why the global hotkey wasnt working....

[old cliff]

Is RTX hdr to be used or no?

[split lichen]

No

[mossy dome]

Anyone else using ultra+? pt21/next absolutely get rid of details that vanilla path tracing shows

and by my judgement there should some light

[smoky minnow]

do you have before/after?

[mossy dome]

in a game with no flashlight i think next/pt21 feels a little cringe at times in a game with no flashlight

there's no direct light source here but there should be enough light pollution so it would be closer to vanilla

its not everywhere. practically dont see a difference from them often, but in some places pt21 can be insanely dark where it shouldnt be so dark, practically making it pitch black

[maiden oasis]

just a reminder that you're better off taking Ultra+ issues to the Ultra+ server

however those two settings appear to be the ones that might cause some issues in certain locations

so try disabling those. V4 seems to be ok for the most part but you can also try disabling that. You'll also want to load a save after changing settings if it prompts you to

[primal sonnet]

Use the more bounce light option

[warm ember]

@maiden oasis you mention in your guide that you think no lut is needed with the psycho preset. Is that still the case with Nova lut 4 being around ?

[maiden oasis]

I definitely recommend Nova LUT 4. I tested the HDR LUT for Cyanide and its really nice. I thought I updated the guide to mention it but I must have forgot

[warm ember]

Ah nice. Good to know. So nova lut plus renodx mod psycho tonrmapper

[primal sonnet]

Nova lut 4 has been the most realistic lut for me tbh. Every other lut is a bit oversaturated, and looks like you're looking through a camera.

Nova lut 4 looks more like a window

I like using the other luts from time to time like realcolor 4 if im going for a cinematic shot

[warm ember]

As I am already pretty far in the game I might have missed some nice visuals

[primal sonnet]

But i use nova lut during gameplay

[warm ember]

I only can use RT, hope that's sufficient

[primal sonnet]

Just use lut switcher then you can use whichever one you like

Luts dont change performance

[primal sonnet]

What gpu

[warm ember]

9070xt

Rt ultra is fine, pt is too slow

[primal sonnet]

Oh

I went with 5070ti instead because it was 40$ more at the time

Yeah pt is a huge hit

It just transforms the image vs pt and raster though imo.

[warm ember]

In am gaming on Linux , so for me the 9070xt was the better choice and got it at start day for MSRP

Pretty nice perf/price card

[primal sonnet]

Yeah nice that you got it for msrp at leasy

[warm ember]

Now it is a no-brainer, price diff to the 5070ti is huge

[primal sonnet]

I got pretty lucky my 5070ti was 640$

[warm ember]

Dann, nice orice

[primal sonnet]

Would have been 590 but I went for the gaming trio model for 50$ more

Better temps and ocs pretty well

You should try a little uv/oc see if you can squeeze a couple more frames

Black Friday sale

[warm ember]

The good old times..

My card is running with UV and 255w pt, same performance as with stock

OC on that card is useless here, doesn't improve things

Let's see what the next AMD generation can do pt perf wise 🙂

[supple maple]

Where can I find the latest HDR version?
The one from github has a bug it seems. My peak brightness nits are not changing.

Is this the latest version?

Thanks

[supple maple]

Peak brightness in nits are showing incorrectly and it's showing differently in the HDR analysis tool.

Ex: I set 450 in peak brightness (that's my max monitor display) but in the HDR analysis tool it's showing 700-900 nits

What could possibly went wrong?

🫠

I didn't face this issue with pragmata HDR mod

[worldly thistle]

Set tone-mapping midpoint to 1 in the in-game HDR settings maybe

[supple maple]

Unfortunately there's no customize settings in game other than hdr, auto or HDR10 PQ or SC RGB. Anyway I need to check once again to confirm

[tame canopy]

screenshot of your reshade settings please

likely using vanilla film grain

[worldly thistle]

It's on the left side of the screen in the Video tab. But I just checked and yeah when looking at the sun the minimum nits reported is around 700 nits no matter what I have peak brightness set to.

[tame canopy]

or just something else missing

[worldly thistle]

I don't think it actually matters though, I can see the sun becoming blown out around 450 nits which is my peak brightness

[tame canopy]

it's the ui, no?

[worldly thistle]

No, If I look away from the sun it's no longer 700 nits

[tame canopy]

the sun isn't 700 nits

it's like 203

[worldly thistle]

idk whats happening then

[tame canopy]

it's 450

[worldly thistle]

Oh it is the UI

[tame canopy]

UI has it's own game slider, which i could overrride just out of convenience

[worldly thistle]

Didn't realize the UI hits 700 nits with that set to 100

It just spikes when you look at the sun, but otherwise it's pretty static

[supple maple]

Yeah found the settings. Thanks

[supple maple]

This fixed 😍

[cunning flame]

how come film grain is recommended? is it just bcs of banding?

[supple maple]

Same issue for me as well. If i look at the sun then the peak brightness is around 600-700 nits

[worldly thistle]

It's the UI, gets bright depending on what's behind it

[supple maple]

But for me it looks washed out

But that's not so distracting anyway

[cunning flame]

have u set ur color precision to high in settings

[supple maple]

Yeah and all my settings are set to max

[bleak granite]

sure, less ghosting primarily

[olive trench]

nova lut 4 both, vanilla vs RenoDX | settings used

[placid pebble]

I did 5 minutes testing with both again and i can finally say, D absolutely looked smudgy and less sharper, where E definitely looked a little bit better overall image clarity, sharper, not as smudgy.

However, E did suffer from the sky grid artifacts and i did notice minor “light particles artifacts” specifically on V’s body but not all the time tho, i didn’t notice those issues with D.

All in all I’m finally staying with E since it looked better all around to me. For now…

More excited for RR update coming out August!

[patent summit]

How do I get PsychoV-17? I've installed the latest version.

Okay 🙂

[steady lichen]

try RT+PT in ultra+