Cyberpunk 2077

[maiden oasis]

shame the Nexus Mods App got cancelled

I actually liked it...until it stopped working on me

[tight jetty]

Never knew Nexus had an app hahah

Im new to all of this

[maiden oasis]

well Vortex is the Nexus mod manager now, but they were working on a sequel

[tight jetty]

Finished building my PC 2 weeks ago

[maiden oasis]

but they decided to merge the changes that were made in NMA to Vortex

[maiden oasis]

nice! congrats on the new PC!

can finally experience the joys of HDR mods

going from console to PC is like woah

[tight jetty]

Yeah hahah

I finished cyberpunk on the PS5, using raster and a messed up HDR

Playing on path tracying is insane

[maiden oasis]

have you tried the Ultra Plus path tracing modes?

[tight jetty]

Plus all the other mods

[maiden oasis]

makes it look even better

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490

[tight jetty]

I have seen them, but the sound like such a hastle to set up hahah

[maiden oasis]

it's straight forward now

they put a bunch of work into it

[tight jetty]

And i can barely get 60 base fps as it is haha

[maiden oasis]

it can also help the existing modes run better too

[tight jetty]

Really?

[maiden oasis]

yeah it's nice

because you can pick from a few different PT modes

and then fine tune the performance further

[tight jetty]

Nice

Ill check it out later

So it can even increase performance while using PT?

[maiden oasis]

hard to explain unless you use it, but instead of just having one PT mode, there's like 5

like on my RTX 3090, the PT20 mode, which I think is basically the original path tracing that was introduced to the game, runs better than the newer modes

If you try it out you'll see what I mean

we have a pretty active Discord server as well that can help answer questions about it, that's where I spend the other half of my time 😛

[tight jetty]

Ill give a shot

Just gotta check if its compatible with my other mods

Whats the Discord server?

[tight hound]

I want my next OLED to be a 42" TV, but currently I have no idea how people can afford these

some 42" gaming OLED TVs cost as much as a god damn 5090 💀

[maiden oasis]

https://discord.com/invite/ultraplace

[tight jetty]

I live in Brasil, and my monitor was around 10k

Basically the same as my 5080 hahah

[tight jetty]

There´s so much going on in the server i don´t even know where to start looking hahah. All i want is to know how to install the mod, and set it up

[maiden oasis]

you don't really need to go on the server to install it

Here's a link to the mod page on the nexus:

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10490

make sure to download the required mods:

once you get in game open Cyber Engine Tweaks

you'll see the Utra+ window

you can change the settings in real time, except for switching to PTNextV2

that requires loading a save

but tbh I just switch between PT20 and PTNextV3 and the various quality settings

the channel for support there is: https://discord.com/channels/1296187754979528747/1296190077717971004

[tight jetty]

Shit, its really that easy? hahah

Their mod page make it seem a lot more complicated

[maiden oasis]

yep 😛

it's not bad at all

[tight hound]

my current QD-OLED is definitely twice more expensive than the most expensive PC part I ever bought

the OLED was 40k, max I ever spent on PC parts before was about 20k for my RTX 2070

[tight hound]

not forever though, definitely saving up for a new GPU now to handle 1440p and path tracing properly

[kindred fjord]

I liked the old reddit, the new.... I can't make sense of how it's displayed 🤷‍♂️

surprised at your fps, just curious what's your processor ?

mine is ...... not good enough anymore, often get CPU bottlenecked

[maiden oasis]

think the game itself is largely limited by the CPU tbh

over in the Ultra+ server that seems to be the case at least

that and VRAM usage when using the larger sized texture packs

[kindred fjord]

yeah but still
RTX 5070 Ti & Ryzen 5 3600 here wanted to upgrade to an X3D chip but missed opportunities and now .....

[maiden oasis]

gotcha

[tight jetty]

I have a 9800x3d

With FG on i get around 100 to 120 fps, which is around 50 to 60 real fps, but the drops are a lot less percivable, and there´s barely any ghosting or artefacts.

The only time my fps fell below 90 was inside Dex car. Dont know why that´s so taxing.

[maiden oasis]

there's a mod that increases the reflections inside car interiors, maybe that's why?

assuming you have it of course

but it's one of the sousine mods I think

[rustic wraith]

So do I take the snapshot build from the Renodx github, and run it default settings? I've changed my peak brightness to my monitors and game brightness to 200. Also changed filmgrain to 20 and vignette.

[maiden oasis]

You're better off using the pinned WIP version

there's a full install guide I wrote as well pinned

if you follow that then you should be in good shape 😄

[rustic wraith]

Awesome I'll follow that, cheers

[maiden oasis]

Just posted my ReShade preset on the Nexus: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/28191

about damn time I got this done

been on my to do list for eons

[tight jetty]

I do use a PT mod that fixes reflexions, but I believe is only water reflexions. But I can test to see

Also, I’ve been messing with the Ultra+ mod, and it’s pretty cool

Do you think PTNext fast is better than PT20 medium?

[honest vine]

Do you have before/after HDR screenshots hosted somewhere?

The description says on Discord but I don't know where to look xD

Oh, I just need to use a browser that actually supports HDR is all!

[kindred fjord]

brave for example should support it

[tight hound]

what mod is that?

[tight jetty]

PT reflexions fix

[tight hound]

damn, literally

[tight jetty]

But I just realized I might have to delete this mod, since in the Ultra+ page they say to not use it with engine .ini files

[tight hound]

Jefferson Peralez looks like Patrick Bateman from the movie

kinda sounds like him a lil bit

[maiden oasis]

yeah any Chromium browser should work fine 🙂

[tight hound]

ehh, sometimes Google Chrome has issues enabling HDR

but you can always force it

[maiden oasis]

I use Brave personally

this setting will help with HDR as well

all Chromium browsers should have something like it

[maiden oasis]

I replied to your comment on the Nexus but just wanted to let you know I added a note to the HDR images section 🙂

@golden raptor I don't reply to DMs from people I'm not familiar with.

To answer your question about what RenoDX settings I use (I'm assuming for Cyberpunk) I mostly stick with vanilla but set the film grain to 0 (because I use ReShade filmgrain), LUT strength to 50, and SDR EOTF to UI/Menu only. The other sliders I may adjust for specific screenshots but that's about it.

but this is going to very much depend on your individual display and modlist setup

[kindred fjord]

alrighty, I thought it was a good idea to remind it
also turns out as I have two browsers... I experienced it first hand so 🤣

anyway
I think your reshade looks pretty good but I think it's a real shame
renodx & mods like that strive to make a 10 or 16 bit color calculations internally in games' engines
and here we got some reshade aftereffect shaders that convert the whole image back to 8 bit then back to 10 bit
kind of a shame even if most of the detail is preserved

[maiden oasis]

It really is. I spent a while trying to find a way to swap out the SDR shaders for HDR ones, but the issue I ran into is that most of the shaders I like don't work well with HDR.

Most of the HDR shader authors don't make hardcore color grading shaders that you need to make a preset like this. In a sense the HDR world is still mostly separate from the ReShade world, except that there is that bleedover that exists because ReShade is a handy tool to inject RenoDX / Luma to use other shaders to fix the existing HDR.

The two shader devs I really like are Zenteon and Marty and neither have much interest in HDR, and Zenteon is actually working for the Warframe devs so he can't really spend much time on shaders these days anyways.

[chrome zephyr]

I uploaded a fix for this in my channel. It’s just a simple envparam edit to remove the map LUT.

No no it’s not released. Just a quick test file in my channel.

I’ll ping you.

[frail mauve]

Hello everyone.
Is the pinned message (the first one) the current version of RenoDx?

[mint ridge]

Putting it there for wink wink reasons but I bet SF should be interested now 🙂

[kindred fjord]

it's this one : #1434377434022809610 message

also shortfuse has another version in the works, unreleased yet though :
#1434377434022809610 message

edit: ho and don't forget to check this guide: https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk
it's very complete

[maiden oasis]

Just a bit lol

I need to give it a once over to not make it so intimidating to newbies

[tight jetty]

So, i started a new game on cyberpunk using Reno, but there´s some weird effects happening

They look like blobs of water moving across the screen

You can see it on the yellowish light, and on the walls

Is it normal?

Or am I doing something wrong?

[maiden oasis]

yeah that's some pretty knarly banding

I've seen that before just trying to remember the fix

[jolly berry]

A little bit of film grain should help, no?

I get noticeable banding, until film grain is at ~20

[hardy atlas]

color precision settings on high?

[maiden oasis]

Color precision high, HDR10+ off if you have it

make sure PQ Saturation is at 0

[jolly berry]

I know that for RenoDX to work properly, HDR needs to be enabled in-game. But with HDR turned off (in the game settings), Reno still noticeably changes the image. In those cases, what is Reno doing?

[tight jetty]

I’ll try it when I get home

Should I set only in game, or in the mod too?

[tight jetty]

Yes, it is

[tight jetty]

Apart from HDR10+, which I don’t even know if I have haha, everything is set correctly

[maiden oasis]

if your display doesn't support it you won't even see the HDR10+ setting

[tight jetty]

Is it a monitor setting, or a windows setting?

[tight jetty]

Yeah, I don’t have that

Maybe it is a monitor setting o need to change?

But I doubt it

[maiden oasis]

if it was a monitor setting we wouldn't see the banding in the video

(unless recorded on your phone)

what LUT are you using? vanilla?

don't think that would matter much though

[tight jetty]

Was not recording on my phone hahaa

[tight jetty]

Vanilla

Don’t have any LUT mods

I think the in Reno the LUT strength is at 100, and scaling as 70

Or the other way around

Something in Reno a have to change?

But every setting is default

[maiden oasis]

I would double check the guide I wrote. I'm not sure what the issue is

Just to make sure all the settings are correct

Other than that, maybe a dlss config issue? Are you using ray reconstruction? Did you change the dlss preset?

[tight jetty]

I’ll try a clean reinstall

Ray reconstruction is on in-game, and in the Ultra+ settings

DLSS is on preset D I think

Performance

What if a try an earlier version of Reno?

[minor compass]

didnt invictus fix some sort of weird visual bugs in cyberpunk by setting PQ Saturation in Ingame HDR settings to 0? that was causing some visual artifacts for him

[tight jetty]

I did set it to 0

[tame canopy]

are you using any reshade shaders?

[tight jetty]

No

And no add-on either

[tame canopy]

what are your renodx settings in renodx UI?

[tight jetty]

Everything is default

[tame canopy]

do any of the settings help the banding?

[tight jetty]

I don’t even know if Reno is the issue

[tame canopy]

are you on nvidia?

[tight jetty]

I turned it off, and the banding was still there

Only when I turned HDR off it went away

[tight jetty]

Yes

[tight jetty]

Turned it off in game i mean

[tame canopy]

and windows hdr is on?

might be nvidia overlay or some setting here

[tight jetty]

It is

[tight jetty]

I turned it off in the nvidia app

But I’ll check it again

[tame canopy]

probably worth using reference mode

there's also trash calibration systems that can break window HDR

in here

which force some 8bit stupidity

[tight jetty]

I used the windows hdr calibration tool

Is that right?

[tame canopy]

that's fine. that doesn't mess with colors

but i would think if its a hdr/display issue it would be all hdr

i never turn off HDR

[tight jetty]

Yeah, I don’t think it’s all HDR

I’m playing a plague tale innocence using Reno, and there’s no banding there

Only on cyberpunk

I also don’t see any banding when using windows

[tame canopy]

and you're using the pinned version?

[tight jetty]

Yes

I’ll do a clean reshade and Reno reinstall, check the settings you mentioned

Then report back

I’m not home right now, but I’ll do it when I get there

[tame canopy]

👍 let me know

[tight jetty]

Could it be any DLSS issue?

I’m using preset D with ray reconstruction, and the guide said we should use E, but it only mentioned boiling, not banding

[mint ridge]

My bet would be the banding (in the sky ?) is due to RR, preset E to be exact (that's its massive flaw in 2077), but if you're sure you're using preset D then it can't be that

To make sure which preset you're using, get the dlss debug overlay enabled

[tight jetty]

I’ll check it out, thanks

[orchid isle]

How should I install RenoDX if I used RenoDXCommander to install ReShade and Display Commander for CP2077?

[maiden oasis]

put the RenoDX WIP that's pinned in this channel in the Cyberpunk 2077/bin/x64 folder

in the game installation folder itself

[tight jetty]

Hey, @tame canopy i fixed my banding issue

It was lack of film grain haha

Thanks for the help

[indigo timber]

First time messing with RenoDX. I have an Alienware AW3225QF, I have it in TB400, max nits is 430

What should be my in game settings? After a quick search it should be 500nits since the slider caps weird, midpoint 1.0 and PQ 0, correct?

In RenoDX menu I just select match SDR and RenoDX tonemapper? It gave me 450nits, brightness 203. Not sure about the rest

[maiden oasis]

For peak brightness do the windows hdr calibration and go with the number it gives you when that white grid goes away

Game brightness set to what you want. 203 is not a standardized number. Generally speaking 1/4 of your peak brightness will be good enough at these lower numbers

So 100-150

[indigo timber]

Windows gives me 430. I put that both in game settings and RenoDX?

[maiden oasis]

Game settings ignore the peak brightness setting

That doesn't do anything with Reno

There's a full guide I wrote in the pinned messages that goes over what everything else should be

[indigo timber]

Gotcha (I saw a comment about it on Nexus from ShortFuse but was old).

I'm also confused about the snapshot. What's the difference between the WIP. and the latest in tags from GitHub?

[indigo timber]

Yup that's what helped me

[maiden oasis]

Wip is actually the newer one. Has some fixes not in the snapshot version

[indigo timber]

rule of thumb always check pinned messages then

[maiden oasis]

Pretty much

[indigo timber]

What does the tonemapper actually change? I somewhat like the Vanilla one more than RenoDX. Might be just how it should look with PT on

[indigo timber]

Shouldn't in game midpoint change the image? Mine doesn't xD

[maiden oasis]

Don't touch the midpoint

There's a reason for that big bold statement in the guide

[tame canopy]

i need to upload what i have. let me see

ah, can't, doing the decomp stuff

[indigo timber]

This? I was talking about midpoint not PQ

Ah. English not my first language so I understood it as "if too bright then double-check it", as it change it to higher or lower

[tame canopy]

didn't i make that a slider that i default to 0 now? or is it just my internal build?

[maiden oasis]

All good 😅

Tbh I need to clean up the guide a bit, it got a little too big

[indigo timber]

My fault. It was at 1 anyways and the guide is good

[maiden oasis]

I appreciate it

[indigo timber]

Not at home, but can take a print in a bit

[maiden oasis]

I don't recall a slider for it but I'll be taking screenshots in a bit so I can double check

I just can't wait for psychoTM to be added

That'll be nice

[indigo timber]

@maiden oasis Can you explain the tonemapper? That and the SDR EOTF Emulation are the only two things I have no clue exactly what they do. They both change the image a lot

[olive cloak]

cyberpunk by default runs aces tonemapping twice in hdr while running it only once in sdr. renodx switches out one of the aces for a neutral tonemapping so that it matches the sdr because more than likely the developers built the game around the sdr rather than the hdr

also the eotf emulation just makes sure the black levels match up with the sdr presentation

[maiden oasis]

Sometimes having EOTF emulation on can be too dark, especially combined with other mods like nova city 2

So I tend to recommend it to UI Menu only first, then switch it on fully if the shadows aren't dark enough

[tame canopy]

incoming

[maiden oasis]

[tame canopy]

Testing:

• PsychoV-11
• Hue Correction Off
• Contrast+Saturation equal (60-70)

Tonemapper Midpoint is "Dynamic Exposure" (Default 0)

Requires Reshade 6.7.3 with Addons

[maiden oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1163633850279268362.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=hehehe

[tame canopy]

psychov-11 has better orange hue and purple blowout

[vestal olive]

[indigo timber]

Nice 🔥 I took a print. Looks correct? Only switched white point to D65 and Hue to OkLab (people recommend that, I see no changes) idk

[tame canopy]

looks wrong

from 3 months ago

[indigo timber]

But how? I got the WIP from the pinned comment. I'll update to the one you just uploaded

Or is that the Reshade version?

[tame canopy]

you replied to the one i just uploaded. i figured you were referencing that

[indigo timber]

I took the print before realizing. Just a sec

[indigo timber]

Alright. Can i change hue to OkLab and white point to D65 on the new preset?

[tame canopy]

that's up to you really, that's not an option with PsychoV

[indigo timber]

But the Vanilla preset looks different than RenoDX preset

[tame canopy]

vanilla sdr or vanilla hdr?

because vanilla hdr is not the goal. vanilla hdr is broken

also #1434377434022809610 message

[indigo timber]

Not sure, hdr i think. There's a Vanilla preset in the tonemapper

[tame canopy]

that's the vanilla tonemapper, original (unmodified)

[indigo timber]

and it should look different than if i switch the Preset to off? With reshade OFF looks washed out. With the Vanilla tonemapper looks fine. RenoDX looks the best

[tame canopy]

off would be all options off, including EOTF emulation, and lut scaling, etc

tonemapper is just one part of vanilla

[indigo timber]

Understood. Just one more question and i'm off. What does SDR Look / Match SDR option does exactly?

[tame canopy]

new renodx::utils::settings::Setting{
        .value_type = renodx::utils::settings::SettingValueType::BUTTON,
        .label = "SDR Look",
        .section = "Options",
        .group = "button-line-1",
        .on_change = []() {
          renodx::utils::settings::ResetSettings();
          renodx::utils::settings::UpdateSettings({
              {"colorGradeContrast", 42.f},
              {"colorGradeSaturation", 42.f},
              {"processingLUTScaling", 95.f},
          }); },
        .is_visible = []() { return last_is_hdr; },
    },

just sets these numbers for you

reset => those 3

an estimated match of what SDR looks like on a normal 2.2 SDR display

[indigo timber]

In what scenario would that be more useful than just disabling HDR and using SDR? or that's just to test things?

[tame canopy]

sdr is only bt709 gamut and no highlight detail

hdr is more colors and more range

[maiden oasis]

with the vanilla LUT

[tame canopy]

oh, i think blowout shouldn't be stuck at 50

need to undisable it

Testing:

• PsychoV-11
• Hue Correction Off
• Contrast+Saturation equal (60-70)
• Blowout 0

Tonemapper Midpoint is "Dynamic Exposure" (Default 0)

Requires Reshade 6.7.3 with Addons

[vital junco]

👍 I'll have a proper play tomorrow, it's pretty late here

[maiden oasis]

looks like some sliders are still locked (not sure if intended)

[tame canopy]

yeah, ther'es no substitute, hue correction should be off for psychov

[maiden oasis]

ok

sounds good 🙂

[tame canopy]

red/orange/yellow should be better with psychov

less smeary

[maiden oasis]

the neons look way better

[kind gulch]

Vanilla or d65 for the white point?

[maiden oasis]

I stick with vanilla for the white point

[kind gulch]

Just prefer it or is it more accurate?

[indigo timber]

I prefer White Point, removes the yellow tinge a bit

[maiden oasis]

prefer it, I can't speak to the accuracy of it

I use my own reshade preset for colorgrading if needed

[kind gulch]

Gotcha

Preciate the feedback

[maiden oasis]

no problem 🙂

for screenshots I do specific color grading for the shot, for gameplay I keep it very generalized and minimalistic

use PsychoV-11 for the tone mapper

[indigo timber]

Can't decide on the ICtCp or OkLab though, barely see a difference if any. Shouldn't matter

[maiden oasis]

with PsychoV it won't give you the option to change that

[kind gulch]

And seems better so far imo

[maiden oasis]

it really does

feel free to experiment to find what works best for you of course

[jolly berry]

I find 60 just a hair too contrasty. I bumped down to 55

[kind gulch]

The corpo opening is playing crashathon for me so testing is a bit slow X D i always have issues with this one

[vestal olive]

dont know why but reshed isnt booting

[maiden oasis]

https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk#part-1---steps-0-7-installing-reshade-and-renodx

links directly to the ReShade installation portion

Common issues:

1. Don't install ReShade with mod managers (other than RDXC)
2. Make sure it's installed to /bin/x64 folder in the Cyberpunk installation folder

[jolly berry]

jeez, the neon look insanely better with PsychoV

[kind gulch]

Finally managed to get to the av, city at night looks great in this build

[jolly berry]

actually, yeah, 70 is not too contrasty outside - it's beautiful

just too much inside

[maiden oasis]

I'm doing 60 contrast and saturation now, I dig it

[vestal olive]

I used RDXC to update reshades thats why had to nuke all my resahde and plugis

[maiden oasis]

gotcha

[vestal olive]

There is an interesting difference at higher brightnesses

[vestal olive]

Looks way better on psychov

Really helps with the "Mexico" filter this game has

[indigo timber]

What does blowout do? I see no difference from 50 to 0?

[maiden oasis]

if you highlight over each thing in RenoDX it should tell you

[indigo timber]

Yeah I got that. But changing from 0 to 100 I see no real change in the image. I just set the recommended 0

Also the 60 contrast crushes blacks like crazy. At least in doors. 50 is perfect. 60-70 Saturation is fine imo

[maiden oasis]

as a rule of thumb, any color grading sliders you can adjust to your liking. The mods you use, LUT, display even, can determine what slider combinations look best in your use case

the blowout slider might not have a noticeable difference in every situation

a dark interior vs a bright sunny exterior for example

[tight jetty]

How are the skin tones when using PsychoV?

[tame canopy]

which is which? first set was pv / drt, and second set was drt / pv

[vestal olive]

Left was always pv

[tame canopy]

ah, my brain mixed up tonemapper slider with image position

[worthy isle]

Happy days. A new tonemapper to check out! BTW, looks like exposure should be at .70 for the default if you want to match vanilla.

[tame canopy]

i was noticing that

but i just dropped my base brightness to 100

[worthy isle]

I've been noticing that any brightness over 110 in this game things seems to look off.

Especially with nova luts since they were mastered for SDR first.

New TM looks amazing though. Thanks for all your hard work @tame canopy

Would love to see this ported over to BL4 down the road

[paper badger]

Hey people, sorry for the silly question but Im new to all this, do I install the file pinned today, or the one dated 11/11/25?

[tight jetty]

The one pinned today

[high thunder]

Is it because of Reshade 6.7.3 or the new RenoDX that the VRAM usage seems to have decreased slightly?

[tame canopy]

probably reshade 6.7.3. mod doesn't touch textures/assets

[void thorn]

idk why, but when going into scanner mode, the game frame is all black, except scanner mode highlights and UI, which only started after I updated the renoDX version and nothing else, this could be some stupid mod interaction, but im not sure, writing here anyways.

Ive furthered disabled reno and tested, and re-enabled it to make sure its not something else

[tame canopy]

custom LUT?

[void thorn]

no custom LUT

very little visual mods anyways

[tame canopy]

this scanner mode?

[void thorn]

yep

normal scanner mode

everythings black ( literally ) except object hightlights and UI

[tame canopy]

scanner mode is essentially a lut ontop of the image, which is why i asked if there's a custom lut going on

it's the shader as all the tonemapping sliders, so should be all or nothing

like everything should break (sliders)

[void thorn]

if it helps, when deactivating, the frames comes back, with the scanner "look" still there fading away into normal look, but when you hold it, its pitch black

ive hopped off cyberpunk for now, ill show you when im playing next time

See for yourself @tame canopy

without reno, it works like normal, im not sure why

is there any extra pre-requisite addons for the new version that i needed to enable for something

[tame canopy]

what graphics settings do you have?

[void thorn]

everything maxed, path tracing

SDR, atm

[tame canopy]

SDR?

does it happen on hdr?

[void thorn]

not sure, noticed another thing that might help

you know the debug graph

that you can enable

that also turns into black too

maybe somethings going on there

[tame canopy]

probably some sdr shader i'm missing

i rarely check sdr

[void thorn]

that sounds about right

well ill test hdr in a bit, but seems to be a SDR only issue

[past locust]

@dire elm

check pins

[past locust]

push it to the git push it to the git

[dire elm]

thanks, where do i put it? inside the main game folder?

[past locust]

in bin/x64

[silent nexus]

Hello all. Decided to play again after almost 3 years. I have a question about the renoDX settings. If I tweak to make the Interiors and very dark areas somewhat visible then the outside world is overly bright and yellow-ish. The last I played I was on a 12700k, 3070Ti, 32GBs RAM on a standard LED 60Mhz. I am now running a 14700k, 64GBs, with a 5080 Gamers on an OLED 144Mhz. I'm fairly certain I played the last time on SDR. Now that I have played/seen what it looks like in HDR at max settings I cannot go back to SDR lol. Is the overly bright daytime world the way it is intended? Any images I search are usually "Look how awesome this is at fully tweaked settings" so I'm struggling to find comparisons. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance. 🙂

[junior grail]

how to get the psychoV-11 to be able to be selected

[primal stirrup]

The latest pinned version is T22:58, looks like you have a different one

The build you are using has the same date, but different time as the latest version

[dapper oasis]

Hi, you can use the mod Nova city 2 and turn on path tracing to have a more consistent lightning

[junior grail]

yep you are right. must have somehow clicked the wrong pin or something. Thanks it works now

[maiden oasis]

The guide should be updated later today or tomorrow to reflect the new RenoDX update

[silent nexus]

TY. Got everything installed and ready. Crossing my fingers. Not going to be an issue between renoDX and Nova City I'm guessing?

[dapper oasis]

No they work fine together. i suggest you those 2 guides : https://www.nexusmods.com/games/cyberpunk2077/collections/lv4wpp and https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk

[tame canopy]

i think i need the CDPR HDR preset button and that's it right?

or just that weird SDR issue?

[mint ridge]

Shoot how did I miss that new build...

I take it it's the WIP one with a few extras and without debug stuff ?

[tame canopy]

psychov

[maiden oasis]

Wish we could have a proper map fix

That is the one downside sadly

Even the realistc map mod is a bit hard to read now ngl

I tried the one cyanide linked but it made the map darker / unlit, so I feel like it's only a partial solution

[broken spindle]

psychov looks fantastic. thanks for the update!

[maiden oasis]

PsychoV is life changing

The only "downside" is I have little reason to color grade my screenshots now 🤣

[mint ridge]

Have you ever tried using HUD painter's Mod Settings part to tweak the map ? 🙂 It's pretty powerful

[maiden oasis]

I haven't

I'll have to check it out

[mint ridge]

You can basically choose any of the default color palette tints with enough values to solve your issue I believe

Tho if you have a HUD Painter theme applied, those base colors will be altered by said theme so that's the only unintuitive thing about it

[proven verge]

Hey guys what HDR mod should I use here

[maiden oasis]

The latest pinned one, not the WIP

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[proven verge]

So , is it RGB or PQ

[maiden oasis]

either scRGB or PQ will work fine, however if you're going to be using other ReShade shaders on top I recommend PQ for compatibility reasons

[maiden oasis]

RenoDRT vs PsychoV

[leaden lark]

Hello, I have an issue with the latest pinned addon. Even though I set the peak brightness to 1400 nits, the game reaches peaks of 1800–2000 nits. I can’t figure out what’s causing the problem. Can anyone tell me if this is normal or if there’s something wrong on my end? Thanks

[maiden oasis]

Are you using any other reshade shaders?

[leaden lark]

No

[vestal olive]

Its one of the in game settings

I think I had the same issue

[leaden lark]

I set 800 peak brightness in the game HDR settings

[maiden oasis]

Midpoint should be 1, PQ saturation 0

The maximum brightness in the in game hdr settings shouldn't do anything, and the paper white just sets the UI brightness with RenoDX

[leaden lark]

I am using these parameters

[maiden oasis]

Not sure then. Maybe shortfuse can provide some input on this

I haven't run into this issue personally

[vestal olive]

Is it a ui element?

For me the time in the top right is whats making it read 1213 max nits

When I have it set to 800

[maiden oasis]

I know filmgrain can make you go over as well, but not by that much

[vestal olive]

SDR EOTF Emulation is a bit darker on PV than RenoDRT. I liked it set to ON in DRT bit is too dark in PV (PV dont need it)

[paper badger]

Does anyone know how to stop HDR cranking up the brightness on my screenshots? Only really seems to happen when they're taken in direct sunlight, but it absolutely butchers them, looks nothing like it did in-game.

[verbal stump]

do you reccomend using any lut like preem lut 3

sorry dude i just finsihed reading your hdr guide ;D looks like you do reccomend preem lut 3 😂

[maiden oasis]

I actually just use the vanilla lut now tbh

But yeah Preem works too

[maiden oasis]

how are you taking your screenshots?

That's an SDR image, I'm guessing directly from the game's photomode. That doesn't support HDR output

You'll want to use ReShade when taking HDR screenshots

[paper badger]

Ahhh gotcha, thanks!

[maiden oasis]

no problem 🙂

[ocean wadi]

@maiden oasis any DoF recomendations ?

[maiden oasis]

For screenshots, there can only be one. Otis camera tools with his IGCS addon. Not free but highly recommend.

Real time dof, you can try out Otis cinematic dof shader

[ocean wadi]

I tried Otis Cinematic DoF while ago and it wasn't working well on my end. Will have a look at IGCS tho

thanks

[maiden oasis]

No problem

[maiden oasis]

I will say that for real time Dof there is not a perfect shader. It's just not something reshade is good at. Igcs works because it can take 100s / 1000s of shots by moving the camera slightly and stitching them together. Getting a proper DoF effect

[ocean wadi]

I will have to agree with that. Haven't find anything worth using for real time DoF yet through ReShade.
Most of shaders that I have tried have some issues with depth buffers and even tweaking them I could not find any balance.
For picture taking I will have a look at IGCS from Frans, seems good from what I see in your shots.

[covert flame]

Hey Creepy thank you a lot for your HDR guide, you are making it easy and simple to fix HDR in cyberpunk. Always struggled with that before 🙏
I'm using last renodx PsychoV-11 with Preem LUT 3 and ShortFuse's Film Grain shader.
I was wondering if the "Creepy's Ultra Cyberpunk Preset" you are giving here is still relevant since these are not in your guide ? especially the Zenteon's PreCorrect, Zenteon's Local Contrast and Soop's HDR Converters parts

[maiden oasis]

I'm still working on updating the guide for PsychoV-11.

I actually have my preset hosted on the Nexus now with updated notes pinned in the comments, and it's still something I use 🙂 https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/28191

[delicate mirage]

Hello, i did follow this guide https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk
But it seems for me that the black levels are still a bit high is this normal or did i miss something?

[maiden oasis]

can you take a screenshot with ReShade showing the issue?

[maiden oasis]

RenoDX Install Guide has been updated:
https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk

• Now current with the PsychoV-11 version.
• A new guide has been added on how to use the Windows HDR Calibration app to figure out the peak brightness for RenoDX.
• Reworked the ReShade portion of the guide to make it easier to read
• Added optional section on how to install my ReShade preset.

[delicate mirage]

Hi, for example this

it seems almost a white patin over everything

But if i move to a corner it's way better

These are the settings i use

[maiden oasis]

I would reference these pinned settings (forgot to add them to the guide, will take care of this later today) #1434377434022809610 message

I also recommend setting LUT strength to 50

[novel hinge]

Imo LUT scaling 75 also

[maiden oasis]

I'll have to mess with that

[novel hinge]

Try it, with Nova City 2 hits the sweet spot

[maiden oasis]

Nova City 2 is a must

that's going in that place holder recommended mods page I made

[delicate mirage]

Thank you very much it seems it's better now.
Regarding lut strenght it seems 60 is sexier

lut 60

lut 50

[maiden oasis]

yeah 100 is too much with PsychoV, it also makes picking another LUT easier

those are nice

that car lighting

[delicate mirage]

before was kinda gray and not as sexy

thank you

[maiden oasis]

no problem 🙂

[tame canopy]

the in-game lut forces white blowout

because the in-game lut is ACES SDR, which blows out to white, stretched to hell

i just don't know how they stretched it

oh. i should throw that into a process to invert and figure out the HDR LUTs

[maiden oasis]

[maiden oasis]

Just redid the last half of the Cyberpunk guide real quick. Now has updated suggested settings, along with a screenshot of what it could look like

[worthy isle]

^^ might want to mention that frame gen doesn't work with scRGB as well.

[tame canopy]

what the hell is that 3rd hdr lut

[worthy isle]

What are you aiming to figure out from these comparisons? Just comparing other vanilla luts?

[tame canopy]

the one that matters is the top left. blue is sdr and orange is hdr. in some cases they're not even close

if there was universal thing done to the luts to "make them hdr" that's one thing, but this is completely random

[worthy isle]

I see. Just looking for a pattern huh. I have a feeling they tried everything in the book along the way to the final lut lol

[tame canopy]

but there's more than one lut is the problem

no consistency

and it's not i get access to the original SDR lut when in HDR so i can build from that. i only get the HDR version

probably best to rebuild linear HDR luts from the SDR ones with inverse ACES

[worthy isle]

Is your goal to rebuild the whole suite of luts in CP? That sounds horrible lol

[tame canopy]

starfield had 205, don't know how many there are here

[worthy isle]

If there was a way to track down where each lut was used I'd be happy to help but have no idea how that'd be even possible lol

[tame canopy]

seems like luts are based on envs

[maiden oasis]

Cy would probably know

[worthy isle]

Looks like Cyanide's vanilla lut switcher pack has all the LUTs used in the game. Lists 273... oof

[maiden oasis]

oof

[vestal olive]

On my oled I like to turn SDR EOTF on and then just boost shadows.

Left is SDR EOTF shadows 65 / Right is SDR EOTF UI Shadows 50

[vestal olive]

Might crank shadows even more I think

[ocean wadi]

@maiden oasis Are You keeping White Point = Vanilla or D65 ?

[maiden oasis]

vanilla

[novel hinge]

did u try LUT scaling 75?

but u gotta test it especially on interiors

[honest vine]

I want to try out the new psycho tonemapper but I keep getting redscript compilation errors with the latest ReShade v6.7.3. Are you guys just not having issues with the latest ReShade?

[mint ridge]

Nope

One has nothing to do with the other

[honest vine]

Exactly

It only happens with the latest ReShade. I saw a suggestion to install core mods manually over using a mod manager. I'm going to try that.

[tame canopy]

sounds more like reshade and redscript fighting over dll hooking

[tame canopy]

there's only 18 sdr+hdr pairs

16 photomode

101 sdr only

8 bad references

128 unused

[olive cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[maiden oasis]

[maiden oasis]

briefly while taking that red bikini shot

I can see why people may like it, but I don't think it's something that needs to be recommended in a guide 🙂

I thought about covering every single setting, but I think the LUT Strength slider is much more impactful

[novel hinge]

ya my question as nothing to do with the guide

was just asking to u

[maiden oasis]

oh no worries

I've messed with it before, but I guess I like to do a lot of my stuff with ReShade

the main changes I focus on within RenoDX are ones that would impact the final peak brightness the most

for example, changing the contrast within RenoDX, respects the peak brightness set within RenoDX

vs applying it after the fact with ReShade

I gotta say though, if you have any interest in film style color grading, give ReLooK a chance

not free, but man is it good

the B/W shots are

I didn't post this in the screenshots but I thought this was cool

trying to find that balance of how to take a good B/W HDR shot

[remote karma]

Would be great if you could reverse Aces the SDR luts and create liniar HDR luts. Think picture quality also with the new psycho tonemapper would be awesome!

[tame canopy]

the only hdr lut pair that has responsible values

sdr goes to 100 nits, and hdr goes to 2000

[maiden oasis]

-# it's already awesome

[tame canopy]

like wtf is this

[maiden oasis]

I never realized LUT science was so complicated

[tame canopy]

it's not

a lut is a function turned into a table

[maiden oasis]

like the concept of a LUT seems simple, but getting it right seems like a pain

[tame canopy]

the problem is all the code to generate the numbers is lost

you only have A=>B

just color in=>color out

with nothing of what it actually does

[maiden oasis]

gotcha

[tame canopy]

this is a lut

the hidden function is return (x*y);

[maiden oasis]

and everyone pretty much uses cube LUTs now right?

and those can support HDR

I've made a few to use with the cube LUT shader in ReShade

tried following the Cyberpunk tutorial for making a LUT in Resolve, but it was weird

just figuring out exactly what you want is different compared to using something like Affinity Photo 2

[tame canopy]

luts are baked results for a math function. luts use 0-1 as percentage, basically, but you can think of it as a numbered as well. imagine a set 32 boxes stacked high, 32 width and 32 deep, and each box has a value inside it. that's 32,768 boxes. that's what a lut is, containers. and based on your encoding, you can say what the first box represents (eg: 0 nits) and 32nd box represents (eg: 10000 nits)

overbrighten, but basically

(not in this angle but) lowest corner is 0%,0%,0% and furthest is 100%, 100%, 100%

it's overall cube shaped, but not one big cube

[maiden oasis]

[maiden oasis]

RenoDRT vs PsychoV-11

[maiden oasis]

just tried this and it works wonders

appreciate the tip

tried it with both the realistic map and the vanilla map, doesn't take much

I'm going to switch the realistic map mod out of the guide and recommend Hud Painter instead

Before/After

[ashen pendant]

I still don't understand PsychoV haha... Have not messed a lot with it but... On RenoDRT I can tell the bench graffiti letters are blue, and the motorbike headlight are blue as well while wheels and neon underneath is yellow. On Psycho it all tends to be very white.

[maiden oasis]

Most lighting isn't just a single color. You'll see this with rope lighting and neon signs. The outer edge has a bit of color, but there's a lot of white present in the sign as well.

PyschoV shows off light sources much more accurately compared to RenoDRT

If you go to jigjig street and toggle between both tone mappers, it should be pretty obvious

[ashen pendant]

Yeah I should try live and see. Not playing Cyberpunk much now, but good to see you guys still cooking. The last WiP was a big step ahead. Was waiting in hopes of maybe new ray reconstruction tech, but we got DLSS 5.0 instead haha.

Also... Is that thing about adjusting debug graph per scene still necessary?

[maiden oasis]

You can just disable the debug graph

I never use it

[void thorn]

I dont do cyberpunk modding, however, is it possible to bake out your own lut as a .cube and convert that to whatever the game uses and for it to work?

[tame canopy]

WolvenKit supports this yes

[void thorn]

what about other way around, if I want to analyze the Cyberpunk LUT(s)

[tame canopy]

Also WolvenKit. It can export cube

[grim tree]

Testing Nova lut 3 right now. Anyone have recommendations for settings or just keep at default?

[maiden oasis]

Update to the latest pinned version of RenoDX and you won't even need a LUT

The PsychoV tone mapper is that good

[grim tree]

Thanks👍 I prefer the vanilla look of the game just testing out some LUTs and mods for my yearly playthrough🙂

[maiden oasis]

Sounds like fun

[forest gull]

Did I do something wrong? The max brightness reported in the HDR analysis shader is a lot brighter than my peak brightness. I don't have any other mods/shaders/addons running

[maiden oasis]

Are you running any other reshade shaders?

[forest gull]

Nothing other than lilium HDR analysis & renodx

just figured it out, my contrast slider being at 70 causes it

[maiden oasis]

Someone else had this issue too

@tame canopy any ideas? Sounds like a couple people have had this issue

[maiden oasis]

Oh?

Contrast within renodx does it?!

[tame canopy]

anything that is lut after tonemapper (because cdpr thought that was a good idea) may bork peak nits. there should be some small overages, but psychov11 should curve to peak

[maiden oasis]

Gotcha

[hardy atlas]

the lack of science is the issue

devs seemingly were just dicking around

[kindred fjord]

ho goodie, time for me to get back to cyberpunk
(was transitioning from manual to Mod Organizer 2)

[maiden oasis]

oh heck yeah, very good time to be playing the game

random screenshot I took yesterday, no fancy ReShade on top

like damn this game looks good

[narrow gazelle]

sdr but lookin good

[maiden oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[maiden oasis]

don't you have HDR?

[narrow gazelle]

i do i do lol

i took this in hurry because i was testing some mods but the scene looked good

[maiden oasis]

then why post SDR shots!!!!

[narrow gazelle]

mabad

[maiden oasis]

just giving you shit bud lol

[narrow gazelle]

ik

even u cant denyy the pic looks smexyy

[maiden oasis]

in SDR the blacks do look a little crushed tbh

but yeah I can see how it probably looks good in HDR mode 🙃

[narrow gazelle]

agreed

[grim tree]

Do you use ultra+ ?

[maiden oasis]

yeah

PTNextV3

[novel hinge]

@maiden oasis your new avatar logo is cracking me up! 🤣

[maiden oasis]

just keeping it real

[maiden oasis]

I changed it 😛

[novel hinge]

this is top tier ngl

[narrow wave]

Hi, guys! i'm in the part of the guide where they say i should use the psychoV-11 tone mapper. But i simply can't find it, i don't have that option.
i just have the options RenoDRT, ACES, None and Vanilla.

i downloaded the Repo Build from the pinned comment from 02/11/2025

[tight jetty]

Use the pinned version on this server

[covert flame]

#1434377434022809610 message

[maiden oasis]

I should mention the date of the post in the guide, and maybe not hide this part in a collapsed section

Trying to keep a long guide like this organized but still full of information is tough 😅

[severe yoke]

tried using the psychoV-11 tonemapper with the Nova 3.0 LUT, and it just looks... worse? (more washed out colors and it destroys some detail on bright objects)

is it just better to not have any LUT at all?

[wise mirage]

It is fascinating to see how much certain LUT packages limit the overall color gamut

[verbal stump]

preem lut3

maybe the renodx does look a little better in certain scenes

[scenic minnow]

Hi All, I am facing an issue where the game just freezes after startup. Basically AFTER the part where the reshade overlay pop up appears, and just before the game loads the main menu. NOTE: I tried with both reshade addon 6.7.3 and 6.7.1. Same issue, screenshots and logs are from the 6.7.1 version.

Uninstalling reshade fixes the problem and the game loads just fine. I'm on linux, and i have used reshade + renodx in other games without a problem

[scenic minnow]

Issue in Reshade when DLSS is enabled. Using a nightly fixes it!

https://reshade.me/forum/troubleshooting/10203-games-crash-when-reshade-addon-and-dlss-are-enabled-under-proton-linux#48402

[maiden oasis]

With PsychoV you're honestly better off with Vanilla LUT. Preem LUT 3 is nice if you want to use a LUT but i haven't used it since the Renodx update

Try it with my reshade preset and you're good to go

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/28191

[mint ridge]

If Cyberpunk was an iso shooter ❤️

[mint ridge]

Forgot to press send on my phone the other day lmao :
Realistic Map was nice to have as a novelty but it missing chunks of playable areas always bothered me tbh

[maiden oasis]

Very true

Especially if you have mods to unlock the outer areas of the map

Thanks again for mentioning the hud painter as a fix

I'm back to using the vanilla map now

Forgot how useful it can be

Wish we had that in full color

[mint ridge]

Pleasure 🙂 HUD Painter is so underrated

wdym full color ?

[maiden oasis]

Like it if was a Google maps type deal

Where it wasn't just a solid color for the buildings

Satellite style map

[mint ridge]

Oh, might need a DLSS 5 setup then

And by than I mean 2 5090 worth of VRAM

[maiden oasis]

Hehe

[mint ridge]

[maiden oasis]

Or I could convince Cyanide to do it 🤣

[mint ridge]

An actual DownloadMoreRAM mod ?

I mean with unlimited draw distance mods and more LOD levels, could be doable by killing the vanilla map entirely

And then just have an aerial view of the game realtime

But oof, gud luck having that running

[maiden oasis]

Yeah...

I think a few games did that as a jank way of doing their minimaps though

Where it's just an aerial view

[covert flame]

Oh that's good to know.
The only reason i use Preem 3 over vanilla is i found sunny weather at noon to be not bright enough, it looks very dark

Vanilla

Preem3

Maybe there is a better way of doing it ?

[maiden oasis]

You can try the ENV Tuner (Simple) mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/23079?tab=files

or just use Weather Switcher and change the weather to something else, I don't like the normal sunny weather either. I just stick with the custom Nova City 2 weathers

Highly recommend the Drought weather (within Nova City 2) for screenshots if you want something sunny

[covert flame]

It's worse on Drought

vanilla

preem3

somehow with preem3, it looks more like noon than with vanilla

[maiden oasis]

wait, just reread this:

found sunny weather at noon to be not bright enough, it looks very dark

normally I find its the opposite 😅

in that case yeah Preem LUT 3 might be better for you

because it does get a bit brighter

[tepid galleon]

response to the "latest pinned" RenoDX version ("PsychoV-11") seems very positive, and great shots. Looking forward to reading over Creepy's guide ||and seeing if there's enough to scare me away or not||

[maiden oasis]

The guide is very scary indeed

[maiden oasis]

Damn man, you're making me look bad. 😂

Nice work!

[jaunty river]

Using shortfuse's settings from the sticky + D65 + a bit of film grain. Maxed out with PT + Ultra+ PTNext V3 and bunch of texture and LOD mods

[maiden oasis]

all the mods

And Creepy's preset 😉

such a salesman

I've been sticking with Meteor Film Grain at like 0.050 intensity for most of my shots

[jaunty river]

[tepid galleon]

Seems fine, thanks.
(The only "riiight, I'll take a better look at that later" part is about fixing the map color problem. I think what I'll want to do is find a HUD painter preset I might like and then install all that required stuff (went back to unmodded/vanilla after my last cancelled playthrough of a few hours). Dunno yet. Wait. Will all the presets also look washed-out/different than they should? Hmmm. A problem for when I encounter it.)

[maiden oasis]

yeah that is the one thing I'm like...well...

you get to that part in the guide and I'm basically like... none of this will fix it...but it will help

[plush drum]

Feel like i've got everything setup correctly following the guide. Been a while since I last played so booted an old save to test

should night look this light generally?

[maiden oasis]

sunset maybe, but that's also an SDR jpg

you can take HDR PNGs with ReShade to upload here

[plush drum]

Thanks, didn't realise that this is an HDR one. In game time is at 3am h ere

[maiden oasis]

3am?

[plush drum]

Yes but the weirdest thing just happened, I tabbed out and back in and suddenly its really dark. I dont even know

[maiden oasis]

ohhhhhh

https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk#washed-out--gray-image

probably the RTXHDR thing

especially if it fixed itself on alt tab

because that does that to me when I forget that I have it turned on

[plush drum]

damn, I was sure that was turned off but nope you are correct

[maiden oasis]

glad I could help 😄

[plush drum]

The guide is great, I just can't read and everything looks amazing so thank you

[maiden oasis]

no problem 🙂

glad it works

[remote karma]

With the pinned addon and PsychoV tonemapper I cannot reach the max 2500 nits of my panel whereas RenoDRT does.

[maiden oasis]

what are you reading within the HDR Analysis Tool?

I would test on a sunny day around noon

[remote karma]

Of course I did, used also the cursor feature of the HDR Analysis on the sun and other high nit things. I can get about 1300 nits or so whereas RenoDRT is maxing out correctly to 2500 nits as per my setting

[maiden oasis]

tbh I think most people end up getting higher peak nits with PsychoV because of how sensitive the contrast slider is

but I'm not sure why yours would be so low

[remote karma]

Not sure about that, have a friend with the G4 and he also does not reach his 1500 nits max

[forest gull]

I have a G5 and was hitting 2.5k nits with every tonemappet

[burnt cliff]

What would be the Purist settings for Cyberpunk?

[maiden oasis]

Purist?

You can check the pinned comments for recommended settings (or use my guide)

[remote karma]

Thanks but then how come me and my friend don’t get our max nits our sets are capable of with PsychoV but get them with RenoDRT both with vanilla lut I wonder?

[covert flame]

Hey

Out of curiosity, should i uncheck any of those ?

Not RenoDX obviously

But i think i read "Generic depth" should be unchecked if i use FG, true ?
What about the "Effect Runtime Sync"?

[maiden oasis]

Effect Runtime sync you can safely uncheck, the only thing that makes use of that is VR shaders I think.

Generic Depth you can disable if you don't use any other shaders. However Deband does make use of it, which some people do use.

As far as benefits goes to disabling them, you can get a tiny bit of performance back but anytime I've tested this I never saw much change. The only game I noticed a change was Borderlands 4

I removed that bit out of my guide because it was too confusing to explain to people and the benefits were marginal at best

[covert flame]

oh i knew if read something about it in your guide, couldn't find it anymore, happy to know im not crazy haha.
You are right, i disabled it and didn't even get 1 fps.
Maybe i will have less stutter
Thanks !

[maiden oasis]

No problem at all bud 🙂

[maiden oasis]

[narrow gazelle]

i was using these 3 together before

remove the first 2 and use ur preset>?

[maiden oasis]

just use LUT switcher

that way you can switch out the LUTs you want

but with PsychoV-11 just use Vanilla LUT

it's honestly perfect

maybe Preem LUT 3 if you want it a tad brighter

Don't mix my preset with that one. I have Deband included in mine if you need it

[narrow gazelle]

ye do need deband okay
so remove those 2 lut alright and uh also which one best overall jus the normal one the photo one

[maiden oasis]

both presets use the same two shaders as a base. Basically the vitual photography preset is more intense

some people like it for gameplay, others stick with the more subtle gameplay preset

[narrow gazelle]

alright got it thanks

[burnt cliff]

Like CD Project Red intended. In many RenoDX addons there is a Purist setting.

[maiden oasis]

that would be the settings recommended by ShortFuse in the same pinned post as the addon: #1434377434022809610 message

[round geyser]

Is it strange that the vanilla tonemapper lowk looks better than renodrt? Renodrt tonemapping is like flat but with the vanilla tonemapper I see higher highlights

[olive cloak]

renodrt is more faithful to the sdr presentation

vanilla cyberpunk hdr runs aces twice which makes the game look deepfried

[round geyser]

wym deepfried

[maiden oasis]

Why not use PsychoV-11?

[solar flume]

downloaded new build can't seem to find psychoV-11. I had the old nexus version before. maybe thats causing a problem?

[olive cloak]

#1434377434022809610 message

^ @solar flume

[round geyser]

Oh I was on an old version

[solar flume]

Hey guys im following the guide and I'm kinda conflicted on one thing on the guide it says

Game Brightness: The paper white value, also known as average brightnes. You typically want to set this between 150-300 nits.

• Below 1500 nits or so, having this set to 1/4 to 1/5 of your Peak Brightness is usually good enough.
• The higher the ratio between game brightness and peak brightness, the more room you have for highlights to standout.

My peak is 450 measured in windows, I have a QD oled so nothing too much.

So I put game brightness to 1/4 so 111, but weirdley enough the game looks better at 150. Maybe I just need to get used to it? Wondering what you guys with oleds are setting this value to.

[fiery spire]

There's no right answer because it also depends on your room lighting and preferences

Mine peaks at 600 nits so "correct" paper white for me would be 138, but if I'm not sitting in a pitch black room it might be too dark etc.

Just mess around and set it to whatever looks best to you

[solar flume]

Yeah its still daylight and i have some sun coming in from the window, ill probably wait until night and set it up as thats when i game usually. I feel like higher gives that HDR pop that I like even though 1/4 might be mathematically the most accurate picture.

[vestal olive]

Brightness is mostly down to personal taste. Think of Paper White as your baseline "everyday" brightness and Peak as the ceiling for highlights. You’ll actually notice a much bigger jump in contrast going from 200 to 450 than you would from 300 to 450.

Most current OLEDs offer two main HDR modes: True Black (TB) and Peak. For example, mine has TB400 and Peak 1000. It’s a bit of a trade-off: TB400 can keep the entire screen at a consistent 400 nits, but anything brighter than that will "clip" (lose detail). Peak 1000 allows small highlights to hit that massive 1000-nit mark, but the rest of the panel has to dim to compensate. It’s a limitation of current tech, which is why the next generation is pushing for TB500–600 and even higher peaks.

[round geyser]

Guys PsychoV-11 is extremely washed out, and the map is kinda buggy, should be like this? or its something I made wrong

[vestal olive]

Share screenshots that were taken with reshade so we can see the hdr image you see

[solar flume]

Just got this monitor a few days ago so Im still learning. Only HDR Ive used was on my tv and ps5 but that was a simple setup.
Im currently in the normal tb400. But ive been reading about peak 1000, just didnt want to mess around with it as im trying to set this mode up correctly for now. What would you recommend for Cyberpunk?
People say peak 1000 looks amazing in some games and horrible in others.

Overall when im playing in a dark room the overall brightness can be too much sometimes so maybe it’s worth trying out peak 1000. Set up windows hdr and go from there? I got the basics down in renodx

[round geyser]

PsychoV-11 vs Vanilla tonemapping

[vestal olive]

Cyberpunk is one of those games that peak 1000 would be really good in because most of the time you are inside or in a shaded area so yah give it a try and see if you like it

[jolly osprey]

as people said before renodx matches sdr in grading since the vanilla hdr does some cursed things so it might look “contrasty with more color”

you can play with the color grading sliders to make it the way you like it

[formal orbit]

vanilla is just way too much contrast, your eyes are just used to the vanilla look but psycho looks way more natural

[vestal olive]

as for the map I think there is a mod to fix tht

[formal orbit]

yeah map is cooked there

[round geyser]

oh I see

[solar flume]

So set up peak 1000 in renodx and game brightness to 250 and go from there? Or run the windows HDR test and set those values up?

[round geyser]

Idk but I see no diff in none tonemapping and pshychoV-11

[formal orbit]

are you in a very bright room? otherwise i wouldnt really set gamebrightness aka paperwhite that high

[vestal olive]

Yes monitor to peak 1000 mode set peak to 1000 the paper white to whatever you want.

[solar flume]

No moslty in a very dark room but it was reccomended 1/4 1/5 from peak on the guide

[solar flume]

Okay i guess its a prefrence thing ill test it out i need to take a fat nap. Thanks for the help guys cant wait to play on my new pc and monitor

[formal orbit]

i see, yeah for lower peak that should work okay i guess, if i did that on my G5 then rip

[solar flume]

I did 111 from my 400 peak and it looked kinda boring lol. So definitely will keep that in mind not to follow as a hard rule

[formal orbit]

thats what musa uses as well roughly

i think 100-120 and 400ish peak

but yeah on g5 i use anywhere from 180-247 and 2468 peak

depends on the game really some games look really dim at the default 203

[solar flume]

Whats the default based on?

[formal orbit]

i wouldnt put cyberpunk in that camp of dim games tho

[solar flume]

My default was way off

[formal orbit]

Lilium did a writeup a few weeks ago https://www.reddit.com/r/HDR_Den/comments/1rwvd20/about_hdr_paper_white_hdr_reference_white_level/

its technically not a standardized value but many games target this as their default paperwhite level

unless youre sony and just blast 300 PW all day in all games

[solar flume]

So stare at the sun in game adjust until prefrence. Got it. I liked the volume analogy

[solar flume]

Yeah my ps5 hdr is bright as a bitch, and its a backlight zone tv so it gets really really bright sometimes

[formal orbit]

[tepid galleon]

I have found my personal solution to the map problem. First ran the game without RenoDX, looked a the map, and since then it is clear: I hate the map, period. Don't have to waste time trying to make it better with RenoDX. 😂

[severe yoke]

hey, what does the dynamic exposure setting do?

[austere pier]

Hi everyone, sorry if this is a noob question. I’m new to OLED and HDR, just got an LG C4 on sale a couple of weeks ago.

I’ve been trying out HDR and wanted to test the RenoDX mod for Cyberpunk since a lot of people recommend it, but I’m a bit confused about which picture mode I should be using when gaming on my C4. Should I go with HDR Game Optimizer or HDR Filmmaker mode?

I’m also confused about tone mapping, especially HGIG vs Dynamic Tone Mapping. When I run the HDR calibration, I get very different results depending on the mode..

In Filmmaker mode, the white box only fully disappears at around 2200 nits, but in Game Optimizer it happens around 800 nits.

Does that mean Filmmaker mode is better since the number is higher? From what I’ve read, the 48 inch C4 only has around 800 nits peak brightness, so I don’t understand why Filmmaker mode goes up to 2200..

Should I just stick with Game Optimizer instead? Filmmaker mode does look a bit brighter to my untrained eyes.. but maybe thats just a placebo since I saw the bigger numbers with the calibration tool..

[forest gull]

I'm on the G5, so might not be identical but I'm always in Film Maker mode on my G5, with Pixel Brightness set to 100 (only in HDR, for SDR its personal preference), then set Dynamic tone mapping to off (and enable the professional slider and max everything out to 100)

there is a game optimizer setting within film maker mode that I keep enabled, for me its in General -> Game Optimizer

[austere pier]

I just followed your settings and tried the calibration again in Filmmaker mode, and now the white box clips at around 800 nits instead of 2200, just like in Game Optimizer mode. I’ll stick with your setup for now, thanks for the tips 👍

[strange spade]

(I have no idea how to take a screenshot with reshade menu visible)

I wanted to ask if I'm reading the pin right? Do both contrast and saturation both at 60-70 with V-11?

I ask cuz the game is dark as hell now 😅

[maiden oasis]

Between 50-60 is recommended for saturation and contrast when not using any LUT mods, but it's ultimately user preference.

BTW to take a screenshot of the reshade overlay, go into the reshade settings and you should see that about halfway down

[formal orbit]

I just use win shift S for the overlay or skiv

[maiden oasis]

Also change EOTF emulation to ui/menu only

That will help with it being so dark

[maiden oasis]

Or use Umers new fancy hdr screenshot app

Love that thing

[formal orbit]

Im a man of habit

Way too used to skiv

[maiden oasis]

I feel that

[strange spade]

Thank ya thank ya for the help <3

[lost panther]

I'm not sure why the other guy recommended Filmmaker mode, that's a very weird setup for gaming.

No, you should actually use Game Optimiser mode both in HDR and SDR. Dynamic Tone Mapping should be set to HGiG for every game (if you learn more about HDR in the future and get more advanced, you could technically experiment with Dynamic Tone Mapping ON & OFF, but it's somewhat complicated and only reasonable if you're NOT using RenoDX, so forget about that for now).

I think @forest gull plays in Filmmaker Mode to get the best colour accuracy and to target D65 whitepoint, but that's not the optimal solution. Ideally, you could pay a licensed professional display calibrator to set up grayscale/gamma/colour accuracy etc. of your TV on the Game Optimiser profile for the best results. If you don't want to pay for that, then it's probably best to just copy the settings regarding white balance from Filmmaker to Game Optimiser, but that will be still significantly off compared to reference.

I had my LG C2 calibrated some time ago and it turned out even Filmmaker Mode (which is de facto the most accurate mode out of the box) was still waaay off from the reference target in colour accuracy, grayscale, gamma, EOTF tracking and, most importantly for me, white balance (it was too warm).

"In Filmmaker mode, the white box only fully disappears at around 2200 nits, but in Game Optimizer it happens around 800 nits.

Does that mean Filmmaker mode is better since the number is higher? From what I’ve read, the 48 inch C4 only has around 800 nits peak brightness, so I don’t understand why Filmmaker mode goes up to 2200."

No, it does not mean that Filmmaker Mode is better - quite the opposite. Your C4 does indeed display roughly 800 nits peak brightness, so 2200 is absolutely inaccurate. I assume it's probably because you had Dynamic Tone Mapping ON in the Filmmaker Mode, correct?

[sacred sentinel]

Filmmaker mode with Full 4:4:4 chroma enabled is only a frame slower than the game mode
And it's the most accurate OOTB on LG
and you can pretty much set it to hard clip at the panel peak with the advanced options

I can't remember if the clipping submenu is on C4 or C5 upwards
Still, you can force it with the 3rd party app on the older models IIRC

[forest gull]

not sure about the C4 specifically, but on the G5 I'm pretty sure it's even less

4k @ 120Hz 5.3ms
4k @ Max Refresh Rate 4.0 ms

Filmmaker Mode with Game Optimizer Enabled:

120Hz: 5.1 ms
165Hz: 4 ms

from the archive page of RTINGs g5 review

[maiden oasis]

[lost panther]

Still, he said he's new to HDR, OLEDs and whatnot. Going for Game Optimiser with HGiG is, in my opinion, the best starting point. Now, if someone wants to get more advanced and not invest in professional calibration at the same time, then going with Filmmaker + the settings mentioned by you guys is better, I'll grant you that.

Though, from my perspective it's worth to pay the extra quid to get the TV calibrated right, it makes a huge difference if you have an eye for details. If one makes this step, then it only makes sense to use Game Optimiser. In a way it's like a bell curve.

[sacred sentinel]

Sure, the point is game mode has some pretty cursed defaults

[sacred sentinel]

Also not all calibrators are equal

[lost panther]

Yeah, it's blue AF

[sacred sentinel]

And it can be more expensive than a quid depending on where you live

[lost panther]

Facts

Though, I wonder now - does Filmmaker actually have any other colour accuracy advantages apart from the white balance?

Cause if it doesn't, then you can potentially just copy FM's colour temperature into GO and have a roughly similar picture, no?

I never actually checked that to be honest, but it would be interesting to investigate.

[tight hound]

EOTF Boost reshade sure works incredibly well when calibrated for my specific QD-OLED with my own APL behavior measurements

basically one of the cheapest OLED monitors, yet achieving pretty great HDR in Peak 1000 mode by making ABL a non-issue anymore

[tight hound]

someone even uses that over their monitor's built-in EOTF Boost, because the reshade is more accurate lol

[vestal olive]

This one right

https://github.com/DespairArdor/QD-OLED-APL-FIXER/tree/main

[tight hound]

almost

the fork
https://github.com/mspeedo/QD-OLED-APL-FIXER

[vestal olive]

OO I haven't tried this yet

[tight hound]

if you have a QD-OLED, you don't even really need your own measurements

if you use it in Peak 1000 mode

but you can measure your own APL for best accuracy, yes

[vestal olive]

Works really well

[tight hound]

yup, quite a bit better than the OG version

now making bright scenes bright enough but not too bright doesn't make mid scenes too dim and/or dark scenes too bright

[austere pier]

ahh I see.. that explains it. I had DTM on in Filmmaker mode earlier, so that’s probably why it was going up to ~2200 nits.

turned it off and now it matches ~800 nits like Game Optimizer. I’ll stick with Game Optimizer + HGIG then. Tbh HDR is kinda confusing haha, I thought it was more of an out of the box thing… guess I need to learn more about it. I just want to play Cyberpunk with the best visual possible

thanks and I appreciate the tips 👍

[vestal olive]

@tight hound I made gemini due a costom curve for me

[sacred sentinel]

On older models ('23 and '24) FMM lets you use the color boost, which is disabled for the game mode
I think for '25 models color boost is available in the game mode

[grim tree]

Is this good for movies too?

[narrow wave]

Anyone knows the name of the mod who make these changes to the hud? i'm having problems with the healthbar in cyberpunk 2077 when i installed the cyberpunk 3077 modlist, i have tried everything, and i still can't see properly the healthbar.

[forest gull]

Iirc color boost in low latency modes is for G4 and G5 but not c series

[lost panther]

I get that, pretty much everyone has the same reaction at the very beginning 😆

Then you learn more about the technology and you're much more capable of navigating the mess and getting the results you want (this is why RenoDX was created anyway).

[tight hound]

why tho

[vestal olive]

It was probably not needed but whatever

[daring cypress]

That’s kinda stupid and a generalization, Game Optimizers white point is way off I think so you have to calibrate that

FMM has higher peak brightness and is better calibrated out of the box

Plus you can set the sliders in DTM pro section to 100 to make it hard clip at around 2400

[lost panther]

It was a joke bruv

And IIRC in newer LG OLEDs there's no difference in peak brightness between GO and FMM

there is in mine for sure, but it's not that big and I prefer the lowest latency + game optimizer features

[maiden oasis]

Ask in the Ultra Plus server

[daring cypress]

There is, in my G5 at least

[formal orbit]

^

[forest gull]

yeah

GO + HGIG caps at like 2000 nits

FM + tonemapping off with all sliders at 100 is 2.5k

[formal orbit]

GO I think also has the sliders that makes it like 2200 for me iirc

Haven’t messed with it in ages been in FMM on the G5 for 12 months straight

[tame canopy]

PsychoV-17

[tame canopy]

TIL flames are pink because the LUTs

[olive cloak]

nice little bump I think

[tame canopy]

blurple shouldn't be an issue

and blue should go a bit more cyan

before, dark blue was purple

[olive cloak]

that addon is without psycho exposure correct?

[maiden oasis]

[tame canopy]

just using the game's base exposure system

which i hope to rip out

[olive cloak]

nice

I might actually play the game with it ripped out :p

[maiden oasis]

so far it looks like that the contrast and saturation can remain at 50 now and putting the highlights at 55 seems to get it close to how v11 looked before. Using the same settings I had for v17 that I did for v11 made it look too saturated to me

v17, highlights at 55, contrast and saturation 50

This is the H10 apartment mod I've been using for testing this out: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/13858

[vestal olive]

Looks great

[maiden oasis]

It does

I'm taking a small break from the game to work on Life is Strange stuff but I'll update the guide with new recommended settings once more people experiment with PsychoV-17.

[tight hound]

that won't work man

If you want to optimize it for your display, you have to measure those yourself

README tells what you need to measure for that

I used https://github.com/ledoge/dogegen to generate test patterns and measured nits with my phone's camera through "Screen Brightness Nits Meter" app for android

don't need perfect 1-nit accuracy here, and this way of measurement is fine for that

[novel hinge]

this is my very first issue with the game, fixing that would make it a lot better

[past locust]

@urban basin

[strange spade]

I just woke up so sorry if im a lil dum rn, but the new Psycho versions, those are the 'latest' versions of this mod right? It's not something I need to pair with a LUT or something?

[tepid galleon]

The "consensus" on the previous pinned version seemed to be that, no, you no longer require a special LUT mod to enjoy the game, vanilla is fine. (I hope I summarized that correctly.)

[tame canopy]

the only alternative to it being a false positive is claiming i injected a virus into it.

[tepid galleon]

Hax00r!

[worldly thistle]

Is the cone response slider effectively a unified contrast+saturation slider? And should be used in place of adjusting contrast and saturation?

[tame canopy]

yes. #1434377434022809610 message should be the first thing you move

[worldly thistle]

Thanks. 60 looks great

[vestal olive]

Thanks testing shows that my monitor get 150 nits brightness at full screen white when targeting 1000 nits Don't know if that's intended or not I thought its supposed to be 252 cd/m² at sustained 100% Window according to rtings.

[vestal olive]

Scratch that my oneplus13 dosent work well with this my old Galaxy s9+ does tho

[vestal olive]

Dont know whats up with the reported overshoot

[vestal olive]

Also dont know if I will actually use these points or if I will wait to see if Gigabye backports HyperNits(EOTF BOOST) to my display

[maiden oasis]

PsychoV-17, Highlights 55, Cone Response 60, Vanilla LUT at 50 Strength

[tight hound]

yeah that sounds hella wrong, are you sure you haven't messed with any settings?

like brightness in nvidia control panel

and are you sure you are actually trying to show a 100% white, 1000 nits image on the screen?

[tight hound]

for some, monitor manufacturer's EOTF boost built into display might actually be worse than the reshade

[sacred sentinel]

Are your settings just a personal preference? Or do you target some specific look?

[maiden oasis]

Probably a mixture of both, though when doing test shots like this I don't treat it the same as when I do normal virtual photography. The settings should reference something I would use during normal gameplay and work in a variety of situations, weather types, time of day, etc.

I try to find a nice neutral baseline to work off of while attempting to use the least amount of slider changes possible to simplify recommendations.

I pay close attention to how the neon lights look in particular. I try to find a balance of having a colored edge, while keeping the center almost white.

Highlights and shadows should not be overpowering. Same with saturation, contrast, etc.

This is also why I recommend keeping LUT strength at 50%. It helps maintain a more balanced look and feel.

If we compare how the same scene look at 0% LUT strength and 100% LUT strength, we can see how that single setting alone makes a huge difference.

[jaunty river]

Yeah I put the lut strength at 50 too after noticing some bloated highlights

[past locust]

github update please

[strange spade]

Would you still recommend 50% strength if I'm just running vanilla/no luts?

[grim tree]

he is talking about vanilla 🙂

[storm nacelle]

my scanner is black unless i target something hackable, in both hdr and sdr

[jaunty river]

My fav car

[strange spade]

Dang your game looks so sharp ✨

I use Path Tracing with Ray Reconstruction and DLSS balanced and while the lighting looks insane, my game does look a bit 'soft' :/

Bought a model of that car too cuz it's so cool 🙏

[jaunty river]

I'm using 4K DLSS performance, bunch of texture and LOD mods (since my 4090 has plenty of vram to spare) and latest Ultra+ with the clean RR option enabled.

[novel hinge]

have u checked 55 highlights on all the signboards? I've done 1 hour test everywhere and 55 blows some details out of certain signboard

I ended up linking 50 as the more balanced

Psychov17 if well tuned is amazing

[modern light]

hey im new to this is it bad that i prefer how LUT strenght looks like at 75 rather than 50

[worthy isle]

That guide is pure opinion. Don't worry. Use what works for you.

[misty hill]

Does Vanilla lut choose vanilla from lutswitcher or does it mean game default lut with nothing selected?

[maiden oasis]

both

it's the same difference

the only difference is that there are two vanilla LUTs within LUT Switcher, one for the main game and one for DogTown

yeah always use what works best for you. I try to find decent default settings to recommend but it's always user preference

[misty hill]

It's hard to choose because my preference changes depending on the situation. Thank you for your advice

[maiden oasis]

I'm adding a disclaimer to the guide that recommended settings are my own personal opinion and don't reflect those of ShortFuse or any mod author 🙃

[wanton badge]

What does tone mapping midpoint do and why exactly does it need to be at 1 and why is it at 2 by default

[tame canopy]

cdpr copium exposure.

[vestal olive]

Why does this reno mod max its game brightness slider at 1000 while most other stop at 500?

[cinder cairn]

what version of reshade is needed for the reno dx snaphot from github ?

im trying with 6.4.1 but game dont launch with error message

game launch with reshade but as soon i put reno dx add on in game directory game dont launch*

[fiery spire]

I dont think the github snapshot is updated, if you want the most recent its the one pinned here

[cinder cairn]

allright thx will try this

[fiery spire]

you downloaded the bottom option right?

[cinder cairn]

yh

but 6.4.1 tho

might maybe try last version

[fiery spire]

oh 6.4.1 I thought you meant 6.7.1 💀

yeah I imagine thats a very old version so I'm not surprised it doesn't work

[cinder cairn]

i see will try last one then

[fiery spire]

yeah download 6.7.3 and also this most recent version

i havent tested it but I think default settings should be good

[cinder cairn]

nice its working thx again

[cinder cairn]

oh allright i downloaded the first at top

will try this then

[fiery spire]

yeah you need the one with "full add-on support" for every single renodx mod

[cinder cairn]

damn yes the psycho tone mapper is sick

make color more saturated its stunning

love it

[grand juniper]

Is this with SDR EOTF emulation UI/Menu only or ON? I've been playing with that setting and generally prefer it being ON but my god a lot of places are just wayyyyyy too dark.

[maiden oasis]

I have it to UI/Menu only

I use Nova City 2 to help with interior exposure

[worthy isle]

I wouldn't turn it on. It crushes shadows hard. If you want to see for yourself turn on the debug graph.

[grand juniper]

Oh okay that's something I could try then

It's just when I change it to UI/Menu only it feels like it adds this washed whiteness over the image

And then greys look atrocious on my oled

[maiden oasis]

I did update my recommend mods page earlier today for Cyberpunk. So if you're looking for some mods to use with the game, it can be a good starting point

https://www.hdrmods.com/Cyberpunk-2077-Mods

[grand juniper]

It definitely does 😄 it's been a battle of having it ON and using a flashlight mod or using the UI/menu option and just sucking up what feels like a more washed image to me

But yeah I will probably try some more mods to "fix" it, thanks!

[maiden oasis]

why would you want to go that high in the first place?

Or are you just curious? Super high game brightness will just make the game look really over exposed

[tight jetty]

I have the same feeling haha

So i leave it on, and decrease shadows a bit

To 48

[vestal olive]

Just curious

[maiden oasis]

was worried for a minute 😅

[vestal olive]

Look kind of nice

[tepid galleon]

verrrry bright but mostly I'm distracted by the MILF Guard advertisment, hahaha

[maiden oasis]

I use the Nova City 2 Drought weather for my sunny shots, vanilla sunny just doesn't look good imo

[weary tendon]

Speaking of adverts, i discoversd the high quality ads, posters, and magazines by EmreHQ and god does it make things feel more immersive

[maiden oasis]

oh yeah I use pretty much all his mods