#vanilla-tech-support
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Not innately, maybe with mods -you could ask in #archived-modded-support. Auto-tool use is a really nice mobile feature.
can stardew run off a linux with a 32 gb usb since harddrive crashed?
Should be able to, as long as the PC recognizes it as the OS drive. Welcome to the server, make sure your nickname follows #old-rules 😄
i think it might be possible
as long as linux is set up as a normal system and not a live session (live sessions dont keep whatever you do, usually)
it definitely can run off a regular usb, I have steam and SDV currently installed on a usb right now
also, if your hard drive still "works" you might be able to pull files and stuff from it with linux
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I recently started playing an old save again, and cannot get Seafoam Pudding recipe to appear.
Playing on steam. Pretty much had a maxed out farm. Also tried resetting my fishing levels with the statue of uncertainty, no dice.
Any mods?
Oh, a tractor mod. Will try removing that, thanks!
Head over to #archived-modded-support if you still have trouble too 🙂
that's probably not it. but any game played with mods just has to go to using-mods for troubleshooting
^
I will try it, and if there are continued issues, I'll ask in using-mods. The mod didn't even cross my mind as a possibility.
All good, that's why we ask
@frozen fable just checking, you've tried hovering over the recipe shadow when standing at the stove? Only because since it's a level up recipe, I'd expect that a pre-1.4 save file updated to 1.4 would just automatically have the recipe added, but you wouldn't get a notification for it or anything.
@willow elm Thank you so much! I didn't re-check kitchen after resetting fishing levels, but now it's there.
Don't wanna type all this again so I'll just send a picture of it
@loud pulsar Im clearly not knowledgeable enough of how this game works to help you but ill still try
, do you start the game with smapi when you play with your friend?
Or do you use other mods when playing together
It's a problem that may be cause becuase of mods so please move to #archived-modded-support
Hello! In the hypothetical case (hopefully not) if I delete my save file by "accident". Can it be recovered in any way?
Possibly through steam cloud, but very unreliable. Best bet is recovering it from recycle bin (though if you deleted it through the game interface, it won't be there). Taking precautions with regular backups yourself is advisable; if you use mods, SMAPI comes bundled with a save backup utility.
Thx Jonqora 😄
guys, I used SMAPI on my Android phone until yesterday without problems, then today I had to format my phone and now it doesn't appear for me on the Playstore to download the app .. I downloaded it through the browser, installed the installer and installed the SMAPI stardew valley, but when I open the app, it crashes and closes at the same time .. Can someone help me?
#archived-modded-support please
Hello! I downloaded the original game on my PC few months ago and I can't join/host any game, even if people send me the invite on steam, the game opens and still doesn't work. I tried doing the firewall thing, and still couldn't do anything... It looks like the game is in a different version, but it has everything except for multiplayer stuff. When I host a farm the place where the code should be there's nothing, and when I try to join a game I can only do it by LAN/IP, and it still don't work...
I don't know what to do :((, I've spent many months searching for tutorials and nothing work. Also sorry for my bad grammar, english is not my first language
so... you got stardew a few months on pc (windows im guessing?) you cant host or join, and it looks likes the multiplayer thing doesnt work?
go into steam, right click SDV, click properties, updates, set to "always keep up to date", click local files, then click "verify local files"
you could also install smapi to see what the version is of the game you have installed, see that way
Okay! Thank you aa
and just to be sure, your running on windows with steam?
yes! Im installing SMAPI rn but the verification of the files says everything is okay
smapi should show the version when you run it (latest is 1.4.5)
The smapi version and game version are diffrent
they're using SMAPI to check the game version
Oh I see
So um
I just started getting the same problem Electrajato had earlier
i can only join by LAN now and the show invite code isnt there when i host
and ive been playing multiplayer quite a bit all this last week
I use SMAPI and mods usually and that is where im having the issue
im only using CJB and walkthrough trellis
You can check the game version without smapi btw
Click the little question mark in the bottom corner of the main menu
@native veldt if you're using any mods, #archived-modded-support is the place to ask
please help, the game is frozen [seb 6 heart event spoilers]
i can still move my cursor
Any mods?
i can still use ingame chat
And what version
ok
Hello again! I'm back and now my problem is another apparently,,
I downloaded smapi and I checked the version, its on day, but when I try to open the "coop" my screen stays like this
So I'm not really sure if its working again 😦
and when I'm playing idk why the screen froze then it gets white too
Do you have anything like Afterburner installed?
uuh not really
Try....I think it's F12
np
bruh i still cant play multiplayer wtf
See this page for connection issues in multiplayer: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_another_player_in_multiplayer. (Applies to both vanilla and modded games; console players just check as many steps as you can!)
yea I did a while ago
And what's your Steam username? Try changing it (you can change it back later)
Ok i'll try it! Thank you
hey there, i started playing stardew valley again after not playing since march, just got into the stardew mood, but i've been encountering some issues that i didn't encounter back then
when i open up the game and load my file, sometimes the text chat will open itself without me doing anything, and when i close it via /exit, sometimes it will reopen itself
also, my character sometimes moves and uses items/tools on their own without my input or me doing anything
and if i manage to stop the random movement/actions somehow, when walking around my character may automatically interact with objects as if i was clicking on them, but again no input from me on doing this
any ideas/suggestions for how to try to fix this? i am playing vanilla SV and have no mods installed, have verified my game cache with no issues, and uninstalled/reinstalled to no avail
hmm, that sounds to me like it could be an issue with your keyboard/mouse? a stuck T key could account for the text chat thing, W/A/S/D/X/C for the rest
also, i'd like to add that this usually happens when i click out of the window, but sometimes this happens after loading my file
this happens to me occasionally too, i have a surface book and it sometimes gets fussy about whether my keyboard is actually attached
i'm not sure if it's an issue with a stuck T
my laptop keyboard does not have issues with stuck keys as far as i know
o
do you also have a surface? lmao
no
i'm playing on a dell precision 5510 w/ windows 10 OS
same laptop as i used to play on before
all my keyboard/mouse drivers are up-to-date if device manager is correct, i checked again a few minutes ago 
hmm... you can try changing your keybinds and see if that does anything?
the default left and right click alternatives are C and X, chat window is T
it may also be that the game window is taking input when you're tabbed out, which is a known issue i think--not sure why it's getting "stuck" if that's the case though. if you're tabbed out and type something, pressing those keys might be triggering your farmer to move around
oh, didn't know that 
does this occur even if i open up the inventory before clicking out of the window?
it can i think, bc inventory keybind by default is E
Yeah. Sometimes people have Stardew open behind an active window and accidentally have clicks register. Worst case scenario you can delete your savefiles that way if you're not careful
Always minimize, don't trust alt-tab
yeah that's another way it can happen, if you click something in another window and it clicks you out of the inventory
gotcha
oh, forgot to add about the text chat - when it opens itself, sometimes it'll just start spewing random characters
does that only happen when you're tabbed out?
i don't think so, the last time that happened was when i just loaded my file up
i already had the wiki open so i just opened my file and tried to play as normal
unfortunately i can't consistently replicate these errors, sometimes i may click out after opening my inventory and it works fine when i click back, sometimes i open up the game and the game starts going crazy then
thanks for the help btw, i appreciate any inputs for potential causes/fixes - just want to play the game again without running into errors/issues 
my game wont open, on windows, through steam, whenever i try to launch the game it wont let me see the game, hiding it as if it is minimized to the task bar.
if you haven't already, try restarting your laptop and uninstalling/reinstalling stardew @ionic shadow (i know you tried verifying files, for whatever reason sometimes it takes a reinstall)
!reinstalldeps @magic star
@magic star Try reinstalling .NET Framework 4.5.2 and XNA Framework 4.0 (see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Game_doesn.27t_launch for links).
yeah, i did that already but i'll give it another go
If you can take a screenshot of the chat spew sometime, that might have a chance to offer insight too
do multiple uninstalls/reinstalls help?
you could also try reinstalling .NET and XNA, couldn't hurt
and sure
if it happens again, i'll take a snip
And - lol only because it comes to mind - do you happen to have a friend, roommate, or sibling who enjoys playing pranks by chance?
I can totally imagine a scenario where a situation like this was the deliberate result of someone hooking up a second, bluetooth keyboard to my computer just to mess with me 
nah, i've got a roommate but there's no bluetooth devices connected to my laptop
and apparently XNA 3.1 was on my laptop? 
played a couple in-game days, overall worked pretty well
i occasionally had some issues like my character moving on their own in a direction (fixed usually via doubletapping the direction's key), though there were a few instances where the character acted as if there was constant/automatic clicking going on
is there a way to fix the clicking issue like the movement issue?
If you're unmodded it's very unlikely to be an issue with the game itself, much more likely to be an input issue whether hardware or otherwise
Could somebody check out my snapi log and tell me what I did wrong?
my game keeps crashing
#archived-modded-support if you have mods
Thanks
You'll have to let us know what the issue is
I can figure quite update my game
for some reason steam just wont let me update to 1.5
That...would probably be because the latest version is 1.4.5
1.5 is not out at this point
@hexed apex i think the collector's edition is out today, that may be why people are confused about the 1.5 update. we have no release date for 1.5 right now, but since it's been teased, it's likely that it'll be out within the next few months
i cant open game who can help me ?
what platform? are you using any mods? do you have the game through steam or GOG?
So like, I'm going away for the weekend to hang out with one of my farmers on the game I'm hosting. We may just nix Stardew for the weekend but in case we don't I'm trying to migrate my setup to my laptop to host from their place.
For doing that I just need the game (obv), the save data folder, and the mods folder, right?
Well, and I guess the SMAPI installer for the version we're running, 3.7.4
what platform? are you using any mods? do you have the game through steam or GOG?
@peak osprey i have no mod steam windows 10
@silver sparrow yeah that's all. Stardew is DRM-free so you don't need to worry beyond just moving all the files over.
Wew, sounds good to me
@balmy estuary why happens when you try launching through Steam - do you get an error message at all, does the game open and then freeze/crash, or does it just fail silently
Also did you just get the game and it's not working, or was it working properly before and not anymore?
@balmy estuary why happens when you try launching through Steam - do you get an error message at all, for the game open and then freeze/crash, or does it just fail silently
@willow elm just not opening
Ok. Does your computer have a working audio device like speakers or headphones? Built in is fine
Ok. Does your computer have a working audio device like speakers or headphones? Built in is fine
@willow elm yes they working goodly
All right. Is a computer reboot something you've tried yet?
Any anti viruses enabled
Uninstalled and the reinstalled SDV. Now the music won't play. I've already done the Google play recommendations and I have a strong internet connection.
What is the issue
(Android)
Also, when I do install SDV, it says the game isn't installed, but it successfully installs on my phone, just without the music
All there is is the ambience of birds chirping
That's a common issue without a good fix sadly
@tribal nacelle does that mean I have to buy a new phone to play SDV
Not saying I will do that
But is it now permanent
No, but if the fixes don't work, there may be something interfering. Are you trying to use mods?
No
Hmm. Give me a bit here
You did that?
I do not own a computer though.
Well frick
No
You don't need a computer, just a file manager app to access your storage
Well I saw the OBB file there. I even deleted it, and it remade itself
https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/337774601696313347/722273813961769070
That seems to be the only fix, though it's not one I like since it's technically distributing game files (which is a big
)
And you've checked the in game volume and everything, yes? Since there are different volume controls for each type of SFX
Well can't help you if you did pirate, so good 😛
And yes all that works
As much as I hate to say it, try the OBB linked by Jonqora and see if that works. But this is something the mobile port team needs to work on, seems to be a fairly common issue
Thank you
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
^ try the file but report either way please
Alright.
Please let me know if the file fixes it too
@tribal nacelle the upload is no longer available, but I did report the issue
Alright, thanks
Do you have your DMs turned on?
Yes
Summary of troubleshooting: tried working obb replacement, no luck :/ Unable to test on other devices, it did stop working when trying to install SMAPI/mods
hello all
i found out that the xbox one is supported, but sadly not the xbox 360. what must i do to get it onto the xbox 360?
There is nothing you can do to "get it on" the Xbox 360
Hey there! This isn't a gamebreaking crash or anything, maybe it isn't even a bug, but I'm new to the game and noticed that today after coming back from mining a few of my majonaise-makers and jelly/pickle barrels are gone. Are they made to break over time? Thanks and I hope this is the right channel, ha.
they don't break over time
Then they just up and left.
it could be lightning possibly
What platform are you on Reptain?
I'm using turkish language of the game, but every stardrop message is broken I think. My favorite thing is not "Tavuk" (Chicken) but it says "Tavuk"
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
It happened in winter and I don't think there are thunderstorms in winter? I left for the desert in the midday with nice weather, mined, came back in the night with nice weather, and they were gone. I am using Android.
I also have lightning rods nearby, I haven't seen them in work yet but I think they would have pulled the lightning strike to themselves if there had been one?
I am using Android.
Ah, unfortunately you're not the only one to report machines just disappearing on mobile.
Oh no, is there anything I can do to prevent this? Are all machines equally affected or just the basic ones? I just received a gem multiplier, I wouldn't want to lose that machine.
Alright so i found this bug where if i move any direction the screen just does the thing i shoed there so can i have any help with fixing this?
it doesnt show it there
why?
I figured out how to fix it even though it was random
change ur vsync to on
new here--random question. are save files broken after you use SMAPI & then uninstall it?
I've done the launch thing where you delete it so it launches normal
but my saves won't load
Not due to smapi itself I don't think, but any mods you were using will break it when missing if they added objects and such things
@dark dirge when you say won't load, do you mean they don't show up at all, or they freeze on black screen?
SMAPI can remove custom stuff, so it may be best to reinstall it, play a day or two and then switch back. you also may get more help in #archived-modded-support
oops. I thought we were in using-mods.
yeah this needs to go in there, this room's for vanilla
@scarlet jasper lightning doesn't destroy machines. It could possibly have been debris/weeds spreading on your farm. If you don't clear stones, logs, and weeds that are near your crops or placed objects, they can spread and destroy things.
If it wasn't that, then it must have been some sort of glitch.
weeds can destory machines? huh
is there any reason as to why some controllers will just disconnect with SDV? like i can pair my controller to my laptop, itll stay connect all day, but in stardew sometimes itll just disconnect and turn off altogether
@willow elm there wasn't any stuff spreading nearby, they really just vanished over the day. Odin already let me know that happens on android occasionally, it seems. Thanks anyway!
I'm trying to change my hair color in the game, but the HSB color sliders aren't really that accurate, is there a solution to this problem? Like a color converter or something? Help would be appreciated.
Nope, that's it
Oh. Thanks regardless.
np
actually, if you happen to have something like gimp, you could use the colour picker and play around with the colours, since the colours are HSV values
though there isnt a defined tool that shows how they look in game, just the colour sliders and the hex value of the colour
The tint makes it looks different a bit, but it can help yeah
If you're on PC or Android and have SMAPI, there's a debug command you can use to set hair color directly using RGB values
What’s everything I should collect in summer for the greenhouse? Is there like a list somewhere?
Also what crops for summer?
Those are good questions for #stardew-valley, this is for game bugs 🙂
ohh
@tribal nacelle

She’s technically on the right channel lol
K
(Jonqora and I are pretty much the only people who attend this channel regularly, trust me, I know what it's for)
I attend this channel regularly I'm just not very helpful lol
I'm mostly here to tell people 1 of 3 things
Go to using mods
Go to new/seasoned farmers
If you have any anti viruses disable them
is there a way to fix the clicking issue like the movement issue?
just a little update on my clicking/moving issues, i think much of it just stems from clicking out of the game window (even with the inventory opened)
i haven't gotten the text chat opening itself issue again, so i guess it may stem from alt-tabbing? which i haven't done since it was brought up that alt-tabbing gives issues
but in regards to the auto movement/clicking, i think doubletapping the keys for direction(s) that your character is moving generally fixes itself
similarly, with the autoclicking issue, i just doubletap C and X since they're the keys for using/interacting with items/objects
and sometimes when these issues come up, the esc button doesn't bring up the inventory (forgot to mention that initially i think), but typing /exit in text chat fixes
hope it's okay to give updates/quick fixes on issues in this channel, and hope this helps anyone else who might have similar issues 
Yeah, that's more than okay! Definitely fill in a bug report with this info as well
isnt there a "pause when window inactive" option? or is this a bug around that
Normally it pauses when you click out yeah. But sometimes it continues to take inputs when it shouldn't
Alt-tabbing is a big culprit of that
ah
so its just an alt tab issue
thats probably why i havent seen it, i dont use that i play fullscreen windowed
It happens sometimes without alt tabbing too - one of the best examples I have is the main menu taking clicks even though it's behind another one (windowed mode)
oh? i wonder if its a windows issue
It's probably a thing with XNA, which if so isn't a whole lot devs can do
But without more info? Hard to tell
i dont remember if XNA is cross platform or not
iirc mac/linux uses mono, not regular xna
i know it uses mono, i just couldnt remember if XNA was cross platform or not
It's not
i dont know how hard it would be to move from xna to monogame
the multiplayer section in options isn’t there
!mphelp
See this page for connection issues in multiplayer: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_another_player_in_multiplayer. (Applies to both vanilla and modded games; console players just check as many steps as you can!)
Yeah, that's more than okay! Definitely fill in a bug report with this info as well
@tribal nacelle do i send in a bug report via stardewvalley.net?
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
and yeah, i have the "pause when window inactive" option on, but this still happens
o my bad
All good 🙂
i need to make an account first?
Yep. Or you can email, but the forums are neater for tracking

i emailed but figured i'd come here since there'd probably be a faster response time 
but will do
You may not get a response; often the bugs are fixed in updates
*without public comment that is
np!
still sucks that i encounter these issues but am glad that i found a temporary fix
Anyone know why my game keeps crashing ? Am playing multiplayer with smapi https://smapi.io/log/1880865c779b4c8eb6a1c8eaa6bfd23e
#archived-modded-support please
So I married my boyfriend in the game. Got pregnant. Never did anything sides harvest some crops. It’s been over 14 days and the baby isn’t born. There weren’t any events in that time either
What platform and any mods?
Got a bug report. This may already be fixed for 1.5 though.
When you place incubators at the bottom of the hutch, the slimes that hatch are stuck below them. In the wall basically.
Incubators can be removed and slimes jump, but never get unstuck from those tiles. They can be killed.
Way around this is obviously not to place any incubators on the lowest row, but in this screenshot's case it's a waste of 5 slimes.
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
Okay. Yeah, it looks unlikely this is due to mods.
hey i need help uh, where do i find crash logs?
i've been playing with a friend (she hosts the game) and i tend to crash for no reason at all
i have no mods installed
How can i check what game version i am currently on? (nevermind, i found it)
It was on the switch. No mods
It’s not the first time it’s happened and I’ve never found anything online about why
@knotty willow they are in the same place as SMAPI logs if they generate, but usually the game doesn't produce one when crashing. You can check by following these instructions
!log
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
????
Extremely common bug
hello... Im in the 1.year and dont know how to feed my baby chicken... I do have a Silo and I do feed it daily with some hay.... ( i put hay in the hopper) he always is grumpy or "looks a bit thin"
This is a good question for #stardew-valley - but in short, you need to take hay out of the hopper and place it on the feeding bench where the chicken can reach it each day.
you can also let your chicken outside and place some grass around their coop
Um there is a duplication glitch and I'm pretty sure everyone knows it at this point
Where you fill your inventory and have one item in a chest then you attempt to grab the item and then press and hold on the organization button on the chest a good way to fix this is just to not let the item hover the way it does and to just let it sit there until u place an item in the chest or to get rid of it then pick up the item
Yes, it's known
@willow elm thx
@tribal nacelle So I got a different app, "File Manager" and was able to find the file you were talking about. I placed the file in correct place and boom, the music works now. Thank you so much for your patience.
No problem!
!log
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
@tribal nacelle i only have something like this in the said crash folder. Not sure if SMAPI is a mod or something but I never installed any mods and I kept crashing while playing on a friend's hosted game
It tends to happen at random intervals, when I'm performing an action (fish, mine, eat), and also rarely happens when the day ends
Out of memory error
are you guys playing for a really long time at once or something?
she doesn't crash despite having a shittier PC than mine, and no, in my case sometimes it crashes after 20-30 mins of gameplay
Hmm. The host not crashing makes sense, since the out of memory causes the data from her end to stop making it to you, hence the crash, but these can be super hard to diagnose
What anti virus do you have, anything else running like GeForce, Afterburner, etc?
yes i have geforce running with nvidia shadowplay's instant replay enabled
does that lead to out of memory issues? because i dont think i have that happening to me on games that require more memory
Ah, try turning that off while playing then
hmm i'll try
The problem is stuff like that intercepts the engine the game is built on, trying to capture or optimize, whatever. And XNA can't handle that, so boom, crash
XNA is a very very old game engine at this point, it was not designed to handle stuff like this
I can't seem to open the game from steam, but if i open it it from my files it works
Check your launch options and make sure they are entirely empty
oh cool, thx
np
I have downloaded Stardew Valley and pressed run, and it si still not working
si*
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did you get it from steam or did you yarr it
have you tried running it as admin
@magic veldt
First any mods
!reinstalldeps @magic veldt
@magic veldt Try reinstalling .NET Framework 4.5.2 and XNA Framework 4.0 (see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Game_doesn.27t_launch for links).
First off
If this is modded it should go in #archived-modded-support
Second we don't know if there using mods @peak osprey
yes, i'm aware. that link is for troubleshooting with or without mods, it applies in either case
i know it says modding, but reinstalling XNA and .NET is the first step here regardless
alright rhen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I found a glitch within stardew
if you have a fish in the fish pond and you have multiple people fishing the fish up at the same time it can duplicate
Yay extra fish
!officialbug @plain hollow
@plain hollow If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
okay i literally joined this server just to see if anyone can help me because ive been trying to figure this out for like 2 hours
I was playing on a save with 200+ hours when my computer just randomly restarted, and after it restarted I reopened the game and my save was missing
I went to the game files and it shows that its there, so I dont know what to do to get it working
can anyone help me?
Any mods?
nope
Okay I'm out of ideas wait for someone like Minerva or jonqora
Minerva fixes almost every problem
And jonqora fixes alot of problems so your probably maybe be fine
The heck?
I just leveled up to foraging 6 two days in a row
using mods? if so it needs to go in #archived-modded-support since conflicts are most likely. this room's for addressing vanilla issues
No mods
On switch
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
@restive tartan are the names of the files in your save modified, like with extra words or anything?
nope
so it looks something like this?
yeah
weird
and all the other saves in your save folder are showing?
yep
I'm not really sure then
it could be a problem with the vaules inside
try this
!installforlog
Try this:
- Install SMAPI: https://smapi.io/.
- Run the game through SMAPI.
- Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log.
- Share the log link here.
(You can remove SMAPI later, we're just using it to see what the problem is.)
just run the SMAPI exe
i dont know how to do that lol
same folder as your game exe
Stardewmoddingapi.exe i think
okay i opened it
what do i need to do now?
im sorry im not really good at these kinds of things
!log
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
yeah theres something wrong with that save
try moving the save game info files out of the folder and run it
what?
take these 2 files and put them somewhere else, like your desktop, for now
and then try running the game
if you want
and then share the log again?
yeah do it under smapi and share the log if it doesnt load
not yet
hmm it's possible that it got corrupted
but this is out of my area, so I'll leave it to Jonqora and Minerva to help fix it
https://community.playstarbound.com/threads/missing-corrupt-save-file-troubleshooting-guide.112827/ this guide can help!
If your character no longer appears on the "load" menu, or your game crashes when you try to load your character, please follow these steps:
Possible...
but at least we've isolated the problem
yeah...
ill try that guide
basically what happened was I was in the middle of mining and my computer screen just went black, I didnt press or do anything. My computer restarted and when i reloaded the game my save was gone
hmm, that log doesn't have the error, is that after putting the SaveGameInfo back in?
hmm okay
if it doesn't work, you can zip up that whole folder and send it here, and i can take a look at it
i enjoy a bit of save file surgery on occasion :P
ive been trying to figure this out for so long that doing more file work sounds really unappealing rn so im gonna go get lunch and see if anyone else has any input
so i can skip the struggle of all that surgery
maybe
but thankyou guys for all the help
ill try that complicated stuff later
if you want you can take a look
but youll have to tell me how to do that lol
some easier things from that guide to try if you haven't: restarting, checking that you're on the same windows account, and trying to go back a day by renaming the FarmerName_old and SaveGameInfo_old files
did all of those things
oh, if you can make a zip of the whole folder for the corrupted save and send it here, i can take a look for you and see if i can do some surgery!
and if i can't manage it someone else may well be able to
how do i do that 
do you have a program like winzip, winrar or 7zip?
i recommend 7zip, but any of those will work--you just need to install it and then go to your save folder, right click, and hit "add to archive"
yeah, the whole folder for it
theres a built in file compressor
yeah i was wondering about that, since they were able to install SMAPI
you should be able to attach the file to a discord message
okay great, let me take a look!
it should be yeah! sorry, my internet is abysmally slow rn bc zoom meetings are eating up the bandwidth lol, give me a couple minutes
no its totally fine! been doing this for 3 hours so whats one more right
discord decided now would be a great time to download 5 updates
jesus my computer always does that at the worst time
i totally get it tho
@ me if you message again bc im leaving my computer and wont see it
oh my god i finally got internet back, that was hell, sorry about that!!
i can actually take a look now
ok! sounds good :)
welllll the good news is part of it's still there! the bad news is the end looks like this
so i'd say it's definitely corrupted, but looks fixable
I knew someone could fix your problem
Whoohoo
I didn't do anything besides tell you to wait lol
do you have any idea what would be wrong with my game if we get it fixed
like how would it be different
probably it just corrupted itself when your computer crashed, it's possible we could get it back fully working again
first i'm gonna look at the _old file and see if that one looks any better, then i'll see if i can splice it with one that works using the technique from that guide
ok!
oh! wait! the one that's in there with a (2) at the end looks okay to me!
okay so where those came from was when i changed the name of the old files
and they just stayed in there with the (2)
but i wasnt sure if i needed to remove the original or what so
okay yeah, so in order to get those ones to load you need to remove the originals and remove the (2). are you okay with losing a day of progress?
yeah im pretty sure my game crashed after like 2 seconds of the new day so im totally fine with that
i dont really remember any of the things ive done so i probably did something wrong
knowing me
it sounds to me like it was a problem with your PC rather than the game, and the computer crash just happened to mess up the save file when it happened
yeah thats what i figured
my computer has had some problems before so im not surprised this happened
so you just need to delete the original files and remove the (2), and it should work again
do i need to unzip it?
is the original folder not in your saves anymore?
its inside the zip in my saves
ah right, then yes you need to unzip it first
ion know how to do that
wait no it is nvm
theyre both in there ill just remove the zip one
yeah that's fine!
i thought it replaced it but it just made a second one
so the only files that should be in there are the _old ones?
or
and do i need to rename the old?
my internet is bad again......
:(
is it back oh my god
YES okay, yeah the _old ones need to be the only ones in there but they need to not have the _old on the name
ok
ITS BACK
THE SAVE IS IN THERE
fingers crossed that its working properly!!!
im going to load it 👀
it should be! both the old files looked fine to me
sorry it took so long!! my wifi literally just said fuck work for half an hour
no its fine!!! i literally would have spent all day trying to figure this out
it also probably would have gotten figured out way easier if i just did the thing right in the first place but its whatever
because we still got there in the end!!!
i literally cant thankyou enough im so excited
so if this ever happens again, renaming the _old files is probably the first thing to try if you don't mind losing progress! if you're worried about losing a bunch of work to a crash, you can keep playing with SMAPI so your saves get backed up (you don't have to install any other mods if you don't want to, it will still work the same as the original game)
yes definitely
this has never happened before so i doubt it will happen again but ill keep SMAPI just in case
also the game is on the same day that it crashed?
so something weird definitely happened
i think my game is bugged
I had just ate a stardrop from the fair and now I am extremely slow
what platform, any mods?
try pressing the left shift key a couple of times
Hey, I'm new, as in really new, and am on chromebook using the android mobile version. My trackpad interacts weirdly with fishing in that clicking (besides a full click, which are hard to spam) does next to nothing which makes me have to only hold and release, any known fix for this or is it supposed to be like this?
alright, thanks!
np!
just to double check, the difference of one click should be literally almost not visible, right?
just want to make sure before I go asking lol
Yeah, you have to juggle it pretty much. I prefer using the keyboard myself, but Android....
yeah, trackpad makes it harder, too, since I have to "click" then press harder after that
you could use a usb mouse if you have one
Ah okay

hi can someone come to my farm to get the gift from a house/cabin i built
or is there a way to get rid of it?
Hello! Does anyone know what can do with this structure? I didn't find any information on the wiki
||greenhouse||
hi can someone come to my farm to get the gift from a house/cabin i built
@viral oyster you cannot get rid of gift seeds
Thanks!
you can fix it from a ||bundle in community center ||
please use new-farmers channel for questions about the game
do i need to have stardew valley on steam to play?
Steam is one of the ways to get stardew valley
wrong place to ask this please move to #stardew-valley
This is for technical support with Stardew
@hexed apex #archived-modded-support
Hi, I'm using smapi with 22 mods and my game keeps crashing when I walk into the forest area.
Thanks
I picked up a frozen tear and went invisible for like 5 seconds
what platform? any mods?
sorry it took so long, on steam on pc and no mods
Is that multiplayer?
If its multiplayer then someone needs to update, otherwise im not too sure
@mild sail can you have your friend check their game version? Click the small question mark in the bottom corner of the main menu screen.
we got it working now thanks!
I get this whenever I get to the 100th floor of Skull Carven. Before it told me it was because of Dynamic Nights got rid of that and now it shows this
Anyone know how to fix?
@split belfry #archived-modded-support please! it also helps if you provide a full log rather than a screenshot
Right right will do
I would assume I need to show the error part right? Cause for me no txt file for just the error but the latest so it shows everything. Here's it just showing the error https://smapi.io/log/fc1d2852b03845e1aae31935e763bb3f
@split belfry we need the full log to be much help - and please share it in #archived-modded-support, this channel is for non-modded game problems only
Can someone help me? my stardew valley doesn't open
please someone help me, I'm desperate
@echo cliff does it come up with an error?
no
Is it steam?

what platform are you running?
👀 i see
Please see #old-rules #5 @echo cliff. Can't really offer support for a pirated copy of the game.
;-;
(You may notice on the sidebar that the Stardew developers themselves are here on this server - this may not be an official community run by the devs, but it has the support of the developers nonetheless. Using a stolen copy of the game isn't really in good faith.)
I didn't have the money to buy the game, so my friends told me to download a pirate
I'm Brazilian, and here we don't have good conditions like there
Your situation is unfortunate but it doesn't change the rules
Hi, new here, is there a timetable for 1.5 yet?
nope
Keep an eye on ConcernedApe's twitter, I'm sure the info will be there when announced
okay thank you. November confirmed or no?
Or here in #bulletin-board I suppose
no word one way or the other, so probably not but we'll see
Definitely not confirmed. Rumors only, based on confusion with the recent collector's edition release and pattern expectation to follow last year's november release (no evidence to support November again)
Ok sooo I formatted my PC last week and I haven't been able to play SDV since, this is the warning that appears. I can run other games just fine only SDV shows this, I think my graphics card is working fine so idk. I need suggestions on what to do I haven't been able to figure it out
Also my first message on #vanilla-tech-support wew 
Try reinstalling .NET Framework 4.5.2 and XNA Framework 4.0 (see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Game_doesn.27t_launch for links).
Alright let me see
i think that might be a gpu issue
make sure your using the right gpu, update drivers etc
my sister accidentally deleted her save file, is there anything she can do to get it back? we looked in the files app (she's playing on an android) under StardewValley but nothing was there. i think it may be gone but i just want to make sure theres nothing else i can try
Yeah :( if she deleted it through the app interface there won't be a copy in recycling bin or anything. Unless she previously made backups of her own (or used SMAPI/mods with the bundled save backup tool), she's out of luck. 
One way I like to keep periodic backups is with the upload.farm website. You can track your progress in a fun way there, and it leaves a re-downloadable backup in case you ever lose your save file.
ah ok, thank you for the help!
If I want to delete the game, but keep the saves how do i do that?
do i just take the saves folder out?
What platform?
pc/ mac
But yeah, just need to locate the save files and keep them somewhere
I don't even know for sure if uninstalling the game would delete those files normally 🤔
But can't hurt to be safe
once my pc crashed delteing some games
(inculding stardew)
and my saves were deleted
I had minecraft
I had this huuuge cool masion in sims 4
ok thats off topic lol
the stardew valley saves are in appdata
How can I exit my game without saving?
Like I did something bad and dont want it to save
Do I just close the game without sleeping?
Yes. Just close the game
@hexed apex are you using mods?
@chrome sandal none
Steam folder plus the saves are in appdata\roaming\stardew valley
br?
??
So I'm trying to join a multiplayer and it won't let me enter a code
Like there is no interface to put it in at all
It only says "Join LAN game"
I am gonna try uninstalling and reinstalling
are you launching from steam?
My friends can't join the world we've been playing on for the last 2 days, like its not showing up in co-op and the code is not working. anyone know whats up with that?
Well, just to cover the basics: Have you both closed and restarted the game?
Are you sure you're both in co-op mode?
Are there any version differences you might have, including any mods either of you might have?
we fixed it! thank you! It was a problem with mods haha
Ah, okay!
Glad you were able to sort it out :D
im assuming this is a bug but it happens to me ALL the time
when I walk through a gate and i try to click it twice to open and close it quickly (so my pigs dont get out) sometimes it breaks
after flicking it multiple times
this might not be a bug but it seems weird so im assuming it is
im on pc with no mods
ok so I killed all of the monsters in the quarry mine and as soon as I did this bug happened I don't know if this is documented but just in case it isn't here it is the quarry mine was also infested if that helps
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
ah ok thanks
ok the post has been made
@rough island Oi! Infelizmente, este servidor está apenas em inglês, exceto para este canal e #multiplayer-lfg-old. Se você está procurando pessoas para jogar, #multiplayer-lfg-old é um ótimo lugar para encontrar um jogo! Este canal é para travamentos e problemas de jogo. (Desculpe pelo português ruim, estou usando o Google Translate!)
I just accepted the task to give Clint 20 copper ores, but when I went to give it to him, he took one as a gift (a gift he hates), and now our friendship points have dropped.
@jolly drum that's not a bug! to complete that quest, you just need to collect 20 ores (you can check your progress in the quest log) and then talk to clint, you aren't supposed to give him anything
you can use the ores or turn them into bars, too, the quest just wants you to collect them and then speak to him
Ah, okay. Thank you
hello
me and my friend are trying to play together but it keeps crashing
she keeps crashing when she joins and i crash when i hover over an invisible starfish
hey im having alot of trouble getting my friend into my game?
its her first time playingh and she doesnt know what to do
she said when trys to put the invite code in, it says connecting and then it says connection failed
!mphelp
See this page for connection issues in multiplayer: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_another_player_in_multiplayer. (Applies to both vanilla and modded games; console players just check as many steps as you can!)
@verbal jewel forgive me if maybe I'm being dense, but what is the bug you're pointing out in the video?
the way down has appeared maybe
can i send the video here?
oh wait
yeah its the way down has appeared thing
its in the quarry mine
so this thing
and yeah it seems to happen every 10 ingame minutes
Help
Started every save but all the gold looks like thus
This
Bought the game yesterday
Oh! Yeah that is weird 😅
wait i wanna try something with that that is mobile correct?
@shell token that's pretty strange. You're not using any mods are you?
No
What does it show for cash/total earned when you open menu?
How to use mods 😂
Anyone else have an issue where they need to disable CPU Affinity for core 0 when starting the game? If I don't do this I get massive frame drops across my entire PC every few seconds. Both modded and vanilla, i7-10700K/1070Ti. Apologies if it's a known issue 😅
Hm. What about the in game menu?
That is really weird
Especially that it's the specific same number both times
Android
This is pretty bizarre. Maybe it is some bug that was introduced in the new mobile update?
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
hmm possibly a apk downloaded from a unofficial source
im testing that with bluestacks right now
that looks like some kind of limit break maybe? that number looks to me like the number that gets put in when something goes over the integer limit
(good point. You did download the app from the Play store, right?)
I bought it from PlayStore
@shell token have you tried any manual editing of the save files?
Baffling
!saves
Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
(I figured it's unlikely if you just got the game - just checking lol)
But I just noticed my gold problem
I thought I was broke
So I never tried to buy stuff
But yeah, this definitely shouldn't be happening
Just fish the whole day
^ yeah i would also love to see your save, it must be messed up somehow
did your money somehow try to go into the negatives?
like when you say broke, how broke?
I tried 2 saves only
When you start a new save, does the money have this problem right away?
like when you say broke, how broke?
@peak osprey I mean when i see yt, everyone starts off with less gold
So I thought the 8 on my gold, is 0
So I never bother to try to buy any stuff
But just now
I went to that blue mart
ohh okay, so it must have been like that from the beginning but you hadn't noticed?
you're supposed to start out with 500
I would totally try to replicate this myself, but I turned off auto-update on mobile to avoid the newest SDV update that breaks smapi. So I don't actually have it to test with 😣
i downloaded "hack" apk aaaand
they said they bought it from play store though 
are you saying you have stardew and another hacky APK, or that you just downloaded a second APK for testing purposes?
If I really downloaded a hacked apk
I would have started bragging
Not asking for help here
who would report a money bug if it wasnt a bug
you'd be surprised how many people ask for help here and pretend they didn't download from a sketchy source haha
Lol
@shell token do you have a hacked apk installed in your phone? (just asking cuz some hacked apks can interfere with the other legit apps installed)
@verbal jewel you downloaded an apkn and you need help?
oh, different people
shadowmaster while the hack APK does affect money count, that's a different wrong money count + wolfgang doesnt know what happened and would like it to not be happening
Whats happening
oh that is a good question machikai, you mean for any other games/apps right?
oh that is a good question machikai, you mean for any other games/apps right?
@peak osprey yes
shadow posted a screenshot of the results of a hack APK to show that it could cause similar but not identical results to your stuff, machikai wants to know if you have any hack APK on your phone in case it's trashing some stardew valley data for ????? reasons
idk what CR is but it's totally possible that a private server could be messing something up somewhere
Clash Royale
@shell token can you check for me the app version number you have for SDV? On my phone I can get that by opening all app list and dragging an app to the top where it says "info", but it might be different on yours.
It should look something like 1.4.5.something
OK, LOL
I dont have another device
We're done here I think
is that an old version with a known bug?
App installed from Package installer
Not "App installed from Google Play store"
gottem
And it's an old version
ok nvm
I'm sorry 😔
So, there's your problem. And please review #old-rules 🤦
"installed from package installer" shows that you didn't download it from the play store
what your screenshot is telling us is that the game was installed from an APK instead of the play store
so unless you can prove you bought it from the play store I'm afraid we can't help you
My brother and I shared the RM20 and he bought it on his phone
sorry
Lying about not buying the game never does anyone any good, especially since a lot of problems (like this one) can be caused by a pirated copy and waste the time of people trying to offer support 😔
He says I can get it there
yes, but not legitimately
please no discussion of piracy here, especially how-tos
it was a scam
And it appears that I can download it
but it sounds like your brother has a legitimate copy of the game
thats a chinese piracy site
....
or something
So which means my brother got the real one?
yeah it's a chinese piracy site and i would delete the message with the name of it just to be safe
fortunately you can probably log into his google account or something and download it
and then if it is broken we can help you
np, you didn't know
hey, you didn't know it wasn't legit, no worries
yeah, instead of buying the game for you he brought a copy for himself and pointed you to a shoddy broken copy
which is Very Rude of him
Totally. 
if you can get a refund
no problem!

which currency is RM?
Malaysian ringgit
so uh the quarry mine message bug
nah
or was that just for testing
it could be a rare thing, as i didnt have it when i went in there
it's likely a bug
when it happened for me the mine was infested
ah
I didn't even know the quarry mine could become infested! Definitely odd.
which itself kinda probably is a bug
Quite possibly
it might be an oversight in the code
since mines can be infested, its likely that the quarry mine doesnt have a way to prevent it
yea
plus it might also be that the normal mines have quarry/dungeon floors
that could also be part of it
oh sorry wasnt paying attention to what you said lilie
i wonder, could you replicate the bug with SMAPI installed and see if it gives you more detailed error information?
!installforlog
Try this:
- Install SMAPI: https://smapi.io/.
- Run the game through SMAPI.
- Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log.
- Share the log link here.
(You can remove SMAPI later, we're just using it to see what the problem is.)
i do know about the sv save editor
you know what'd be hilarious? if SMAPI somehow fixed it by accident
this isn't the save editor (and that can cause a lot of problems with your save)
but yeah if you install SMAPI and get a log, it may be that you can get some detailed errors for what's happening, since it seems to be doing that every 10 minutes ingame
sure
Huh good thinking! As long as you're still on the same day (or can revert 1 day previous to it) that would be easy to replicate
yea
yeah cause infested levels should be the same right?
In fact
If you can replicate it, zip the whole folder for the save and include it in your bug report. Devs will appreciate that.
is there a way to force an infested level? that could be useful
^ i was just about to add that too--infested levels are calculated based on your save's unique seed (the numbers at the end), so it might be a really edge case thing because of the specific day and time you started the save file
yea
You can predict them, with Stardew Predictor or similar mods, but I don't know if any of those even check the quarry mine for... understandable reasons lol
i wonder if there was supposed to be an infested quarry level and somehow the floor got mixed up...?
(quarry mine is mine floor 77377 internally right? I don't recall if stardew predictor has a limit on how far deep it checks)
have you saved more than once since then?
because if not you still have the save file and making a copy would be a good idea
(it's in appdata)
i have a bug to share
sure!
it happens when you press your phone's back button while being in the process of changing your animals barn or coop
oh its an android device
after pressing the back button the unsaved progress pop-up will show
!officialbug
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
well yeah just sharing to heads up android users is to never press the back button while moving/changing the farm animal's barn or coop
i guess i'll just post there
Which one of these mod fuckers banned me from the reddit for no reason
I need support lmao
!ask
Feel free to ask your question or describe your issue here, and someone will help if they can :)
it's also likely tho reddit mods moderate here as well, so I would tread carefully
@hexed apex please check #old-rules, you can DM @spring peak to appeal a ban. but like arcane said, most of the reddit mods are also moderators here
Yep, several Reddit mods are also discord mods.
hello! everytime i go outside with mods installed the game craches. is there a fix to that?
sorry, go to #archived-modded-support I meant that channel not this one my bad
oh ok
Hello! I have a question with smapi actually. I have been wanting to use it for my game but computers and myself don't mix well, can someone help walk me through the download process of smapi?
I think you would need to go to #archived-modded-support for that 🙂
Thank you!
np ^^
Can my save transfer to another phone?
I think if its android you can
Both android and iOS can save transfer just fine, even from one to the other or to PC
See here @paper parrot: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Mobile_Saves
i took a screenshot but i cant find it, im on linux and its not in the saves folder
nevermind
its nowhere near where it says online
but the wiki says it, but i didnt know
How do I use the chatbox on switch
is rice the only crop that will grow faster next to water?
- that's a question for new-farmers 2. rice is currently the only vanilla crop that grows faster next to water; there may be more coming, and also if you use mods there are some modded crops that use that mechanic.
Hello, today I played on a co-op save until day 9 of spring, then my girlfriend bought the game and joined the world. On day 9 we were able to play as normal (sleep/save/etc). Then on day 10 we kept crashing when we tried to sleep, I have tried all the usual workarounds, dump my inventory in a chest, not adopt the dog, adopt the dog, dont harvest anything, just go straight back to sleep as soon as i wake up, and also to play the save by myself to try and get through that day, that didn't work either.
I have no error logs to provide as they are both 0kb, as in, the files are there but they are completely blank.
Does anybody have a suggestion?
i have a bug where hay doesn't disappear, it gets more and more every time even in winter. i have 3 silos and it once showed me that i had 736/720 hay, how?
wish I had that bug tbh...
I'm glad i have it, i don't have to spend so much money
Hah!
what
My game freezes for a second when a slime monster attacks me. It kind-of squats down, and then freeze for a second or two, then BAM my health goes down by 20 or something
cool
not
Oh, 'freeze'
yeah kind of
Is this a pun
oh. interesting
If you've checked that it's not a mod bug, you can report bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/index.php?forums/help-bug-reports.12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into). Alternatively, you can email support@stardewvalley.net
Hello! I have seen in a group that a user has expressed a bug that she experienced.
It is that she left her game (Singleplayer) on the 4th of summer, and when she entered again, she was on the 8th. I emphasize that she was in Singleplayer. Is it a known bug or does it only happen in a few people?
Hello, I have recently encountered an issue where I will attempt to open up my save game, and Stardew Valley crashes in the loading screen. I think the file is corrupt, but I am not sure. Like the genius I am, I didn't make any backups either, so I cant just open up a working version. I have tried some of the basic things from basic research, but I can't get it to work. If anyone on here is able to help me, it would be much appreciated, as I am about halfway into year 2 with 60 hrs of gameplay. thanks!
Fix the game in the Steam
!reset
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)
^ that, it won't touch your save
Oh, I see
@meager moss did you have a bug to report? this channel is for getting help with game issues! your comments might be better suited to #stardew-valley
@west hemlock that happens anyday when you sleep before a certain time
Try this:
- Install SMAPI: https://smapi.io/.
- Run the game through SMAPI.
- Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log.
- Share the log link here.
(You can remove SMAPI later, we're just using it to see what the problem is.)
@worthy zealot if she left her game unpaused and had not put anything in the shipping bin, her character passed out at 2am then it automatically went to the next day because not putting anything in the shipping bin = no confirmation screen
@flint quiver try installing smapi for an error log
@wary mason Thanks will try that now

