archived-update-spoilers

[manic notch]

and not fossil

[vapid furnace]

Found

[gray oriole]

He went fishing

[vapid furnace]

Why can I not hook The Legend

It's ironically the last fish I need

[gray oriole]

Skill issue

Also is it raining and spring

[naive cape]

oops

[vapid furnace]

You distracted me by saying Skill Issue

how dare

[molten turret]

you

[drifting anvil]

he is the best

[gray oriole]

[primal gate]

Can you put deluxe bait on crab pots?

[gray oriole]

Yes

Reduces trash chance slightly

[primal gate]

Does the deluxe worm bin create bait everyday?

[gray oriole]

Yes

[primal gate]

Thanks

[gray oriole]

4-5/day, i have one planted next to my pots

[lavish anvil]

whts mystery box

[primal gate]

Geode but gives you random items

Best one I got was a golden pumpkin

[lavish anvil]

like ltierally random?

[midnight knoll]

No

[lavish anvil]

also where i find it

[midnight knoll]

Its from a list

[lavish anvil]

i just triggered it

just returned playing so im utterly blank

[primal gate]

Is autograbber a 1.6 thing?

[tough remnant]

No

[primal gate]

You get it randomly

[tough remnant]

Autograbber has been around a long time

[primal gate]

Maybe I clicked too fast before to not read Marnie's letter

[lavish anvil]

no ik randomly but as in?

[tough remnant]

1.3 IIRC?

[lavish anvil]

like when or what are you doing

[primal gate]

From my experience: Mining, fishing (chests), cutting trees, obtaining from Lewis house

[lavish anvil]

ah

lewis?

[primal gate]

You don't know your own mayor

[lavish anvil]

lmao

no i mean like why lewis of all place

lmao

[primal gate]

You'll see once you try to visit. I know this is 1.6 channel but I want you to discover it on your own

[lavish anvil]

ok

[vapid furnace]

For some reason I thought you were talking about getting extra pairs of purple shorts

[lavish anvil]

thts marnie

[vapid furnace]

Extra pairs

[lavish anvil]

my saves oddly got rollbacked and it doesnt exist in backup

[lavish anvil]

theres one?

[primal gate]

It's better to start a new save right now

[vapid furnace]

Let me give you a short history

Before 1.6, there was an exploit with the way the game uses items

[primal gate]

I wanted an extra pair so I could let the Governor eat it at year 2

[lavish anvil]

i have never cleared the game once so id like to continue

[vapid furnace]

In short, you can use yellow couches as wool in a loom, or a wallpaper as a prismatic shard for the galaxy sword

[lavish anvil]

oh that

[vapid furnace]

You used to be able to wear staircases, but it was patched out

[primal gate]

Me too but 1.6 is better when started fresh. Lots of new things that can help boost your farm

[vapid furnace]

... and replaced with an intentional secret

[lavish anvil]

the only exploit i know is if u named ur animal with item ID
poof

is tht ptched?

[lavish anvil]

aw

rip the wife lmao

well at least im still year 1

[vapid furnace]

You used to be able to wear staircases as pants, which would transform the staircase into trimmed shorts, but like I said, it was patched out and replaced

If you want to find out the secret, try grabbing a staircase and using it how you would normally, but in "wrong" locations

[lavish anvil]

buh

[primal gate]

You'd find your dead self being buried

[vapid furnace]

Wrong locations, as in ||Lewis's Bedroom||

[lavish anvil]

funnily i didnt know u can grab staircase

[primal gate]

Is it safe to do so?

Or will it bug my game

[vapid furnace]

It's an intentional feature in 1.6

[primal gate]

Niceeeeeeeeeeeee

[vapid furnace]

So I'd imagine it wouldn't break anything

[primal gate]

Omw to Lewis

[woven tusk]

It is not a bug

[vapid furnace]

It exists to replace the former method of staircase to purple shorts transmutation

[woven tusk]

...But I would definitely not say it's, uh, safe.

Your save file will not be in danger.

||Only your, y'know, life.||

[lavish anvil]

now thts scary

[primal gate]

My cat is always lazy

[lavish anvil]

give me detail

[vapid furnace]

So in other words.
... Don't grab a sword, grab a mental notebook and make sure you know your way back

[primal gate]

So it's like a maze

Let me guess, going to Marnie's ranch

[vapid furnace]

Surprisingly, no

[cyan prawn]

Cute!

[primal gate]

Reminds me of Urahara from Bleach

[vapid furnace]

I'd recommend not clicking the darker one until you found the secret yourself

[cyan prawn]

Awesome I thought I broke the game when I did that lol

[neon owl]

that is pretty cool. anything down there?

[vapid furnace]

I like how the rain sound effect started playing when I yoinked it

[midnight knoll]

||evil shorts||

[dense reef]

do i have to specifically fish in the top or the bottom for the goby?

[neon owl]

bottom i think

[tough remnant]

Bottom, it's the water between the two waterfalls

Between the top and bottom waterfalls that is

[dense reef]

okay thanks

just 6 fish left now

will have some trouble with crimsonfish and legend though, i need to get 3 iridium ones (so perfect catch w/ challenge bait)

blessing of waters helps but that may prove difficult for the legend unless i just spam rain totems lol

[neon owl]

my personal method? just use a cork or trap bobber, with improved bait

[tough remnant]

Go for the roe as well 😛

[neon owl]

and seafoam pudding/+3 fishing

[dense reef]

Nevermind just found out you can predict blessings with sdv predictor lol

[dense reef]

yeah but if i knew that i couldve got 3 iridium legends rather than 1 i wouldn't forgive myself

Won't bother with roe though (also i think the wiki said you can get them with pans? not sure abt that but i won't anyways)

[slow crest]

how do you get the blue grass on a regular farm if possible

[dense reef]

i just opt for cork and curiosity

[dense reef]

Mr Qi recipe

in the walnut room

[slow crest]

oh ok

[dense reef]

jeez

oh looks like tommorow is a water blessings day

[dense reef]

can't wait to try triple catch the iridium legend! never caught the legend before!

also don't have a seafoam pudding (or master on my fishing rod) so dish of the sea will have to do

Lmao

[dense reef]

i got master on my iridium rod but forgot about the advanced one

If i really struggle ill run 2 cork instead of 1 cork 1 curiosity

just will take longer

just gotta prep everything the night before so it doesn't take 6 years to reset (i also had the event with leah gifting her statue the dya i was resetting on) like with the glacierfish

😭

ooh tent kit is good idea

ill do that quickly

Now do it for the Legend!

Oh i forgot my god damn statue

Its fine i can make it back

only 11pm

[junior lake]

im wondering was there any secret easter egg added to the start screen?

[dense reef]

don't think so?

I FORGOT MY FISHING FOOD

THIRD TRIP HOME

oh my god i just found the legend for the first time

this is NOT enough 😭

may have to come back to this with qi seasoned seafoam and a master rod honestly

[neat sail]

I've only seen this since 1.6 release but idk if that's because it's new or if I just haven't seen it

[tidal axle]

hello! i'm new to the server because i saw this, was too shocked to take a clear screenshot but is this new?

[dense reef]

oh ive never seen that

Lmao

[tidal axle]

oh hey that's the one i just got!

[neat sail]

Haha great timing, it's a secret loading screen! Happened to me twice recently (I also missed the screenshot the first time!)

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Secrets#Intro_Screens

[tidal axle]

rare green version, huh...

that's really cool!

[dense reef]

yeah its new

[neat sail]

Yeah!

[dense reef]

In the nicest way possible, people think shes a guy??

[neat sail]

That's what I was gonna say 😭

In the first Stardew Valley Cup live event, ConcernedApe said that there's one secret that he didn't think anyone ever found. He said that:

"I guess you might say a message or something. And actually the thing is the message is not even really relevant anymore. It was like originally revealing something that's like actually not even true anymore. But it's still I don't think anyone has found it, and I don't know if anyone ever will. Because it's extremely obscure to find it."
Now I'm curious if anyone has found this

[tidal axle]

i don't think anyone's even close

[dense reef]

does a max cast do anything besides making your rod go the furthest it can?

[neat sail]

It increases the chance of getting an iridium fish iirc

[tidal axle]

if youve ever heard of the golden ball hunt of hypixel skyblock i have a sneaking feeling its gonna be similar

[neat sail]

But I already normally get iridium fish 90% of the time after lvl5 so it's only really relevant before that

[tidal axle]

actually i know about this! max casts send your line as far as possible, and the farther your cast, the higher your rate for a gold quality fish!

if you get a perfect catch, it becomes iridium after you get a gold

[dense reef]

yeah

[tidal axle]

so yeah all it does is make your rod go as far as it can go

[neat sail]

Any cast that is more than 99% of the maximum distance is highlighted by the text "Max".[1] "Max" casts do not receive any special benefit
Interesting

[dense reef]

I am NOT getting 3 iridium legends bro

Im going to keep trying but if i give up ill just wait til i can get the extra 3 fishing levels

[dull sonnet]

lesgoo

[novel ivy]

look what I found a spot of grass that looks like sweden even gotland is there

[solemn prawn]

nice

[neat sail]

Kinda does look like sweden tbh

[novel ivy]

look to the left sweden all over and a small gras to the left that is gotland

Right*

that cant be a spoke.

[solemn prawn]

what is that? (it says "Wrong item" but i still kinda confused)

[novel ivy]

can you ask the dev if its a easteregg?

[neat sail]

It's unlikely to be an easter egg, but it's a fun coincidence

[neat sail]

Do you have mods installed?

[novel ivy]

maby but that litte gras spot makes me think its made that way

[dense reef]

it does kinda look like sweden but im going to be honest i doubt thats intentional

[novel ivy]

strange its the only spot in the w hole game that has that from but pretty cool

any way thx ape. sweden loves you

[solemn prawn]

no, but its a very old save

[dense reef]

yeah i give up ill try get this legend with qi seafoam pudding and master or something man

[neat sail]

Not sure, try asking in #vanilla-tech-support

[solemn prawn]

ty

[neat sentinel]

bro

i got 2 legend roe

how is that even possible

[tidal axle]

the guy who wants to collect 999 of every stackable item is in shambles btw

fish roe is now obtainable

[dense reef]

he can't get 999 legend roe without glitches right?

[final tide]

what should i do with truffles?

[bright gyro]

He needs to fish thousands of legend 2s so that he can get 999 roe from the treasure chests

But that doesn’t even compare to the statue of blessings

[solemn haven]

put them in oil maker then sell the truffle oil

[drowsy steeple]

the patch on the right looks kinda like poland

[dense reef]

oh do the give the same roe

[drowsy steeple]

or ivory coast

[bright gyro]

yep

[drowsy steeple]

how many fish do you need on average

[bright gyro]

no idea, but its not that common

so alot

[reef prawn]

i just realized its now possible to get roe from the squids with the new book

[tidal axle]

but he CAN get 999 midnight squid roe

anyways... sheep

[bright gyro]

I think golden animal crackers make animals the best source of money

[balmy temple]

[bright gyro]

golden chickens per tile is way better than crops already

[midnight knoll]

Panning with the fisher enchanment also has a glitch so you can pan for legendary fish

[modest spindle]

What dis???

[balmy temple]

even if you have already caught it?!?

[balmy temple]

i forgor

jelly probably

not sure

hmm

[torpid leaf]

raisins

[modest spindle]

Jelly on page 1

Damn

[balmy temple]

jelly is in the fish tab pretty sure

[balmy temple]

oh yep

[modest spindle]

Appreciate it

[tidal axle]

assuming max friendship with a sheep, every other day a sheep will produce iridium quality wool, right?

thanks to the quality wool buff, processing iridium quality wool will give you 2 guaranteed cloth, every other day

assuming artisan, that's 658 gold per day per sheep

add onto this the golden animal cracker, and that's 1316 gold per day

if you swap professions between shepherd and artisan, you can double this thanks to shepherds perk, giving you 2632 gold per day per sheep

[balmy temple]

crazy

[tidal axle]

that's about half as much as pigs, but they're much less of a hassle than pigs (no need to harvest anything with autograbbers, no truffle crabs to mess you up, works in rain, works in winter)

[woven tusk]

Well, the iridium rate won't be 100%

[tidal axle]

so they're... viable now

[tidal axle]

that's still around 2k gold per day per sheep

still pretty good all things considered

[bright gyro]

golden chickens are better per tile I think

[tidal axle]

golden chickens are also locked behind perfection

[balmy temple]

yes but they are post-perfection

[tidal axle]

as a viable money making method, sheep do the job

pigs are still... obviously better

but now sheep aren't terrible

[balmy temple]

[bright gyro]

fair enough, I usually only use wine till perfection

[drowsy steeple]

so the worst farm animal is officially the duck then

[pseudo rune]

noooo

[tidal axle]

what about dinosaur or void chicken?

[pseudo rune]

they can swim

[balmy temple]

[tidal axle]

im not too familiar with the profit margins of coop animals, sorry

[bright gyro]

still? even though they can't be crackered?

[tidal axle]

yes.... they make over double the amount as crackered sheep with the shepherds profession

it's.. insane

[bright gyro]

now if only pigs didn't have so much maintenance

[tidal axle]

that's the thing

sheep are now a viable low maintenance option

[drowsy steeple]

they can't be crackered but they look perpetually cream crackered

[tidal axle]

sure they're slower but with the land you saved from not using pigs you can use other money making methods

like the new mushroom log-mystic tree setup

[bright gyro]

true lmao

[tidal axle]

or just.. wine... i guess

[sour hare]

I haven't done the actual math but I think dinos are still worse, even with the book buff

[warped yew]

Smoked Stonefish is kinda crazy

[bright gyro]

wine is the best method (im an alcoholic)

[regal fulcrum]

and it's hilarious given...the combination of words.

[tidal axle]

oh absolutely but it's boring and im tired of it and there are so many things ive never tried

like fairy rose honey

or mushroom log

or fish ponds

or animals

[drowsy steeple]

I kinda meant the worst farm animal that you can buy

[tidal axle]

or.... anything other than wine really

[bright gyro]

ginger island honey goes crazy

[warped yew]

1500 at Iridium Quality is crazy fun

[tidal axle]

people have theorycrafted a lot on the whole smoker thing

[sour hare]

Ah sowwy

[fringe sandal]

hi, quick question, did 1.6+ changed something about slimes outside? (havent found anything in patchnotes)
my outside slime (town pet) disappeared, is there a point in incubating another one?

[tidal axle]

if youre okay with getting the initial stonefish (may be a little annoying), it's pretty good

[tough remnant]

I bring new code diving news, I've parsed out the potential results from the random furniture that drops from various activities now

[sour hare]

Smoked Lava Eels 🙏

[bright gyro]

anyone know the numbers on legend 2 fishing for money? Its gotta be crazy right

[drowsy steeple]

it's still better to do catfish or sturgeon since you don't get stonefish all the time

[sour hare]

42k with angler and artisan

[bright gyro]

I mean like for a full day

[tidal axle]

exactly what i was about to say

[sour hare]

Ah
That depends on how cracked you are at challenge bait fishing

[tidal axle]

you could also go for 42k Per Fish with curiosity lure-quality bobber the legend ii

[drowsy steeple]

and stonefish bait only increases the chance by 10% which is nothing and absolutely not worth the fish you put in

[woven tusk]

Fashion and interior decoration: the true endgame for any title that has then.

[bright gyro]

Even if you suck ass at it (i do) and only use targeted bait its gotta be a few hundred ks a day

[midnight knoll]

Yes

[sour hare]

Don't use targeted bait for legendaries, super not worth it

[tough remnant]

Random cosmetic drop has a 60% chance to be a random shirt, and that can be almost any random shirt. Very few exceptions there, mostly stuff with gendered variants or prismatic effects, plus some shirts with non-numerical IDs.
Also 20% chance to be a random hat, this is from a specific and much stricter subset of hats, all of which are tailorable. No skipping achievements or specific rare drops like Living Hat.
And then there's 20% chance to be furniture.

And if it's furniture, then you have:
5% chance for Decorative Lantern outright.
Then if that fails, there's:

• 1/9 chance of a random chair from the following list: Oak, Walnut, Birch, Mahogany, Red Diner, Blue Diner, Country, Breakfast, Pink Office, or Purple Office
• 4/9 chance of a random House Plant (ID range 1376 to 1390 inclusive)
• 1/9 chance of a random End Table from the following list: Oak, Walnut, Birch, Mahogany, Modern, or Winter
• 1/3 chance of an item from the following list: Small Plant, Table Plant, Decorative Bowl, Futan Bear, Globe, Model Ship, Small Crystal, or Decorative Lantern

[woven tusk]

Does it not work as well on them?

[bright gyro]

why not? isn't it a percentage increase, and legends have a pretty high chance already

[woven tusk]

Maybe the hook rate code works differently for legendaries?

Or in this case for Extended Family

[tough remnant]

Nope

[sour hare]

I don't think it's worth it personally, but I only have my limited experience in my main save

[restive raven]

I assume its cos the opportunity cost of a smoked legend 2 far outweighs the increases chance

[woven tusk]

Hm. Is their hook rate low enough that the extra hook attempt doesn't meaningfully recoup the sacrificed fish to produce the bait?

[tough remnant]

Bite rate is actually significantly increased as well

Targeted Bait has two effects

[drowsy steeple]

huh, which line is this

[woven tusk]

1.66× RNG weight and two hook attempts per cast, yeah?

[tough remnant]

First is multiplies bite chance by 1.66, and second it basically gets two fish per cast

[dawn hill]

What’s a trinket and how do you find them?

[tough remnant]

Sorta, but if you're talking about RNG weight, you have to also say that the weight is capped at 1

[woven tusk]

Combat Mastery, and then do the same kinda stuff where Secret Notes and Mystery Boxes come from, I think?

[regal fulcrum]

Trinkets are a Combat Mastery accessory, and you find them in SC and Mines.

as well as other areas

[sour hare]

Get combat mastery to unlock the chance to get them
Little dudes that follow you around and help you

[woven tusk]

I didn't know that. So the 1.66× doesn't work if the fish already had a bite weight of 1.0×?

[tidal axle]

if i may ask, relating to trinkets, is the fairy box better than the golden spur? i have the spur at 7s, my weapon is the galaxy sword, and the fairy box at 4 hp

[young kite]

what happens if you put a tapper on a wild tree?

[gray oriole]

can't

[gray oriole]

that depends on u

[tidal axle]

i dont rlly have a crit build rn

[gray oriole]

Then spur wouldnt be very useful id imagine

[tidal axle]

wdym by wild tree? you can tap the trees growing around the valley if thats what ur asking

[sour hare]

Then you'll probably get more mileage out of the fairy

[gray oriole]

New tree type

[tidal axle]

idk about palm trees though

[woven tusk]

They probably mean the green rain mutants

[tidal axle]

gotcha... i may as well try it

[restive raven]

Obviously magic hair gel is the best trinket

[hybrid bloom]

Hold on what?!

[sour hare]

Correct

[woven tusk]

Speaking of which I notice that only my oaks turned into green rain mutants in the fall. Maybe the "make oaks lose their leaves in the fall" code is pointing at the wrong type of tree

[drowsy steeple]

book of starses lol

[tidal axle]

oh, no, some trees just do that in fall

[white trail]

wow that dried produce stand is so OP 40g peppers go for 455g!

[drowsy steeple]

mr qi is gollum underneath

[white trail]

that is actiually crazy

[tidal axle]

(please do remember that you need 5 items to equal one produce)

[gray oriole]

It eats 5 peppers

[white trail]

why do i have to go to clint to open a mystery box tho ?💀

[woven tusk]

Maples turned to leafless maples.
Oaks turned into the green rain mutants.
It makes sense if the "trees now have a chance to lose their leaves in the fall" feature (mentioned in the patch notes) was implemented just a little wrong

[white trail]

ohh

[young kite]

the new trees that are called wild trees lol

[gray oriole]

I have no idea how ur getting 455 though

[tidal axle]

so it'd actually be 200 to 455, still good! kegs will still be better for fruit though

[neat sail]

What happened?

[unkempt dome]

@neat sail You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

[golden pond]

… thats still a markup by 255 gold than selling them straight up

[gray oriole]

Wait nvm artisan

[tidal axle]

actually.... yeah..... how did you get 455

[tough remnant]

It's line 132, in StardewValley.GameLocations.CheckGenericFishRequirements()

[tidal axle]

300*1.4 is 420 though

[drowsy steeple]

thanks, I couldn't find it in FishingRod

[woven tusk]

Mushroom logs say "wild trees" but mean oak/pine/maple/mahogany

[gray oriole]

Its 40 * 7.5 + 25 * 1.4

[vapid furnace]

... it does not work

[young kite]

oh do they? wtf lol i thought it meant the green rain trees

[golden pond]

BAHAHAHAHAHHA

[young kite]

that's so stupid

[barren raft]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[tidal axle]

OH RIGHTTTTT THE +25 I FORGOIT BAOUT THAT

[white trail]

yeah but I want to uise most of my kegs for acient fruit and satarfruit I could make a shed with dehidrators and kegs to put fruits like melons, tomatoes ect, those that I dont need for cooking

[sour hare]

Your horse has broken its neck

[tidal axle]

that's definitely a good plan if you dont yet have more kegs than youll ever need

[drowsy steeple]

that's cursed

[golden pond]

Tbf, the actual name for the green rain trees are still being disputed

[tough remnant]

Yeah the game never actually calls those wild trees is the issue. Wild Trees is a name given to them by the community, despite Wild Trees being used by the game to refer to well... any tree that grows in the wild

[gray oriole]

I call them moss trees since they grow from moss seeds

[hybrid bloom]

See the picture above. I used the wizard to change my name to an item code to see what would happen and that’s the message I got lol

[tough remnant]

Green Rain Trees is how the game actually refers to them

[cyan prawn]

They just look like giant melted prehistoric ferns

[gray oriole]

Green trees is also one ive seen used

[tough remnant]

Probably because of the Mossy Seed

[drowsy steeple]

if we call everything by their in-game ids some items are bound to have weird names

[tough remnant]

"Can be planted to grow rare wild trees"

[neat sail]

Cute easter egg

[golden pond]

See, but theres 2 different trees that grow from mossy seeds

And so you would need different names for both

Plus the name moss tree will get confused for a tree with moss on it

[cyan prawn]

Cute new hat with the feature

[sour hare]

Melons are still better jellied
As a rule of thumb, dehydrator is cracked mostly for multiharvest fruits like blueberries and cranberries, ie whatever you have a ton of and don't have time to keg or jar

[white trail]

guys we can have multiple pets now!!!

my only pet already hates me but still

[dense reef]

wait wtf you can get infinite qi gems with /recountnuts??

[latent rune]

thats my fav part of the update, the pets

theyre so cute

[golden pond]

Got patched out I think?

[dense reef]

nope

[gray oriole]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tough remnant]

"Wild Trees" are not a rare type of tree, the mossy seed trees are rare types of wild tree.

[stark glade]

work shed v2

[tough remnant]

It's not based on their IDs

[latent rune]

its so neat wow

[stark glade]

sadly couches had to go but now I have space for 2 more machines on the left

any ideas on what I put there?

[drowsy steeple]

i mean generally not just in sdv

I think terraria has really weird ones

[sour hare]

more fish smokers 🙏

[stark glade]

[reef mica]

those eyes couldnt possible have any bad intentions

[golden pond]

Yes, but I dont think the ID’s in this case are of any help since Im pretty sure the names would’ve been more distinguished if they were

[tough remnant]

Oh yeah, but I'm saying that "wild trees" being a specific type of tree was always a mistake

Misunderstanding that was unfortunately propogated

Wild trees are just any tree that grows in the wild

[stark glade]

GOD DAMN MY LAVA EEL POND JUST GAVE ME 10 FRIED EELS????

[tough remnant]

The only names that are given to the mossy seed variants by the game are Green Rain Trees

[golden pond]

Man I wish I knew how to code so I could help update the wiki because theres so much work put into it I’d love to help with

[dense reef]

Pretty broken, but also it’s through a softlock fix so i guess there isn’t much they can do

[gray oriole]

Figuring out what code does generally doesnt need u to know how to write it

[stark glade]

this gotta be some ancient sacrifice ritual

[golden pond]

Ig “The harder the fish, the better the fish pond” still rings true

[tough remnant]

Very nice golden animal cracker right there

[latent rune]

he definitely wont take a kidney or liver tbh

would trust

[tough remnant]

If you're leaving the pond full, you can also get 20 magma geodes at once lol, with a ~1/30 chance

[stark glade]

yeah I got that drop too

[latent rune]

animal crackers are cracked, after i found out using them on the ponds was possible its the 1st thing i did

so wicked tbh

[golden pond]

I suppose but Ive tried helping with wikis before and Ive screwed up with mainly formatting so many times with no way to fix it

[tough remnant]

Magma Geodes sell for 150g with zero processing

[latent rune]

oh fr?

[tough remnant]

Yeah

3000g from that pond drop

[stark glade]

oh my god I just accidentally synced all my ancient fruit

[tough remnant]

I wonder if it's actually still better to not process geodes

I never did the maths on that myself

[stark glade]

if it took less time it'd be worth it

[tough remnant]

I know it's not worth it if you get Clint to do it

[woven tusk]

Even with the iridium scythe?

Oh, the geodes not the fruit

[tough remnant]

And it wasn't worth the coal in 1.5

But now that geode crushers are free...

[stark glade]

I'm slowly setting up an army of kegs

great wood drought of year 4 is real

[tough remnant]

It would still never be worth the time, but it might not actually lose you money anymore

[woven tusk]

The oak resin isn't your bottleneck?

[stark glade]

not really

I have like 500 stored

[tough remnant]

Why can't you just buy it?

[sour hare]

Hit Robin for that wood

[stark glade]

maybe I should but I'm saving up money for all 4 obelisks

[sour hare]

...it lost you money before?

[woven tusk]

250G per coal

[sour hare]

Worth it imo
Kegs snowball your money pretty hard

[woven tusk]

That's a higher cost than most of the stuff popping out of the geodes is worth, I think

[tough remnant]

Yes, with the obvious exceptions of the ones that sold for 0g

Cracking omni geodes, artifact troves, etc. made you money (if you did it at Clint's)

[sour hare]

I never considered the coal cost yeah

[tough remnant]

But regular geodes, frozen and magma actually lost you money

Even compared to just selling the geode and the coal

And you never sell the coal

[vapid furnace]

I don't know if I am blind or if it despawns at night, but I can't find the prismatic butterfly most of the time

[tidal axle]

RUN DONE

OH MY GOD THAT WAS THRILLING

THE HAUL AFTER

I AM PROUD OF THAT HOOOHHLIBEFWUEJK

[sour hare]

Nicee

[brittle peak]

That is really good!

[latent rune]

congrats wtf

[tidal axle]

oh my god my hands are shaking i am SO proud of that run

[latent rune]

oh my god thats crazy

[tidal axle]

only 7 staircases!

[sour hare]

The best thing in that haul is the living hat that I don't have

[brittle peak]

Dang

[tidal axle]

this save is crazy on the rng to be honest

yoba seems to really like me this time round

[steady narwhal]

146 deluxe bait? Nice

5 prismatic shard for 400 iridium ore alright

[tidal axle]

thank youuu 😭 im very proud of myself for this

[buoyant field]

my 2nd cactis

[tidal axle]

its so cute..

[small igloo]

I feel like my 1.6 playthrough has like the worst luck of any run so far, void chicken not until winter y1, no ancient doll yet spring y2, none of my trees turned into a mushroom tree in fall y1, not a single crop fairy, no meteorite, i cant make it past lvl 80 in the skull cavern. Like brooooo

[sour hare]

Are you me?

[tidal axle]

my 1.6 save is full of highs and lows

[sour hare]

I don't even have the dwarvish translation guide completed, can't get the green scroll to drop

[brittle peak]

Same

[tidal axle]

im so sorry to hear about your bad rng though..

that sounds like it sucks

[regal fulcrum]

Meanwhile, my Riverland Farm is cooking. 2 Meteorites and a Fairy in Summer Year 1.

[small igloo]

I also havent found the dwarven gadget so y2 and no farm computer for me

[tidal axle]

good lord....

[brittle peak]

Dang! That's some really good luck

[sour hare]

The price I have to pay for Day 4 Ancient Seed drop

[tidal axle]

im so jealouys literally the only thing to come from my 1.6 save is 2x owl event and NOTHING ELSE

[sour hare]

The rng giveth and the rng taketh away

[small igloo]

I honestly think i havent gotten a crop fairy in an irl 1 year

[brittle peak]

I got a crop fairy spring y1 1.6

[regal fulcrum]

That's the balancing act, though, because I still have no Ancient Seed, yet.

[sour hare]

The new rng didn't mess with night events, right?

[small igloo]

Like 1.6 is making me have the best fun in this game in years, so its distracting me from all the stuff it isnt giving me lol

Like I unlocked Mastery in fall y1 so that has been a blast

[brittle peak]

I didn't get the actual ancient seed until fall y1 but I got an ancient seed from the traveling merchant right before CA patched it

[brittle peak]

Dang!

[sour hare]

I do kinda think early ancient seed> no Dwarf in Y1, because I'm finishing Winter Y1 and my greenhouse is already almost done
Those early fruits came in clutch

[small igloo]

Spring y2 im using the mastery statues and the buffs are awesome

[pure osprey]

is 1.6 out already?
Does it work with an existing savegame?

[fathom mist]

What's the best place to fish in fall?

[sour hare]

Yes and yes

[pure osprey]

time to update, thanks

[sour hare]

Ocean iirc

[drowsy steeple]

getting iridium sprinkler from SC in spring feels really good

[woven tusk]

River for catfish when it rains

[tidal axle]

what are you going for?

[small igloo]

Catfish in a smoker is god

[fathom mist]

Smoking fish for profit

[tidal axle]

oohhh uhh.... yeah catfish (river while its raining)

[dense reef]

SC in spring…?????

[sour hare]

Volcano caldera bless
But yeah river when it rains, ocean otherwise (forgor about catfish )

[drowsy steeple]

yeah, I'm having a pretty good run with floor 86 at only 3 pm

[tidal axle]

that's a damn good run wow

[vapid furnace]

Does Qi's crop count as that one monoculture achievement where you deliver 300 of the same crop or something?

[tidal axle]

are you going joja route or are you minmaxxing the hell out of a noprmal run?

[small igloo]

I swear the aesthetic of an inventory in skull cavern gives me endorphins, why is SC so good?!?!?

[drowsy steeple]

actually lucky bc I went in with 0 bombs and 4 coal to make bombs

[brittle peak]

That's insane

[tidal axle]

holy

[sour hare]

It's the pseudo-roguelikeness of it all

[drowsy steeple]

but then again i'm using MRC

[tidal axle]

such a fun and interesting part of the game i love it

[sour hare]

You're using what

[drowsy steeple]

magic rock candy

[sour hare]

Ah I'm an idiot bless 🙏

[small igloo]

I use a lucky lunch every time and I still havrnt made it past lvl 80 in y2

[sour hare]

Time to get staircasepilled

[small igloo]

Yeah but Ive had crystalariums going eith staircase for 2 seasons and I still only have about 90 of them

Jades

[sour hare]

Yoba rewards those who are patient

[small igloo]

Yeah imma log on rn so enjoy yalls conversation, ill pop in and out

[drowsy steeple]

and I'm out of coal again so it's mega bomb only time

[sour hare]

Coal bottleneck is real

[fathom mist]

should i smoke gold albacore or iridium sea cucumber or starfish

[barren wing]

hey guys when going a Skull cavern run is it ok to pass out in the cavern?

[drowsy steeple]

died at floor 130 but thank god fuck

[barren wing]

😭

[vapid furnace]

Why is "Danger in the Deep" better than "Skull Cavern Invasion"

I know you have shafts, but you also have checkpoints

[barren wing]

truth but there are 120 floors in the mines ig

idk i thought skull cavern was harder tbh

[tidal axle]

the skull caverns one isn't thst bsd tbh

it's just the same thing but the monsters are harder

[vapid furnace]

I guess the main reason is that, in the best case scenario, you can do SCI on Day 1...

... since you kind of have to without checkpoints

[barren wing]

and that u dont get checkpoints

[drowsy steeple]

I guess that's because SC gets shafts

[tidal axle]

a normal skull caverns run won't usually differ much from a sci one

[drowsy steeple]

while you have to go floor by floor in the mines

[barren wing]

truth

and tbh at this point just leave skull cavern in hard mode

[tidal axle]

true...

[drowsy steeple]

yeah I do that all the time

[woven tusk]

Mines will force you to see three spiral maps (but I guess there's nothing stopping you from staircasing right past)

[barren wing]

oh ok bet

[limber crypt]

anything I can do to my fishing rod to increase jelly odds?

[barren wing]

I wanna get to floor 300 😭

[woven tusk]

Yes but it's fucking cursed

[dusty shore]

Has anyone run into problems with the Luck Skill mod interfering with the Mastery system?

[barren wing]

tbh if u need jellys

just fish at like 1 am

[stark glade]

you'll get a better answer on the mod channel

[woven tusk]

Before we continue, which jelly type(s) are you after

[stark glade]

#archived-modded-support

[tidal axle]

you mean the removed luck dtat?

[barren wing]

the less fish u can fish the higher chance of getting a jelly

[limber crypt]

ocean and cave

[woven tusk]

Cave is easy

[barren wing]

frfr

[woven tusk]

B100F has the best odds. Use luck buffs to multiply the rate.

Daily spirit luck does not impact it, only buffs do

[barren wing]

how many jellys do u need??

[dusty shore]

There's a mod that reimplements it, and I've already went to mod support, and they sent me to modded farmers, who then sent me here

[woven tusk]

Ocean Jelly... there's a ridiculous two-rod method

[tidal axle]

ahh.. I've got no clue sorry

[limber crypt]

im looking for maybe 3 more atleast, wanted to make fish smoking faster

I get a lot of river jellies cause I fish a lot at shearwater bridge (SDE mod)

but the other two have been avoiding me like the plague

ill keep floor 100 in mind when I reach it for the cave one

[woven tusk]

Let's see, I think the idea was that during the summer or at Ginger Island South, all the fish are too advanced for the Training Rod to hook. So you can use the Training rod to catch Jellies at a higher rate.
BUT! Outside the mine, Jelly RNG is seeded and the seed does not advance until you catch something other than trash

So you cast with your training rod to see if you're on a jelly seed. If you catch trash, switch to a real rod and catch a fish

[limber crypt]

thats perfect for me, in summer rn

[woven tusk]

Then switch back to the training rod to see if you're on a jelly seed again

You must catch the fish; hooking it and failing to land it will not count

[dense reef]

oh my goodness why can't i have KIDS

Its been taking so long

[stark glade]

at this point it's easier to just fish until you get a jelly randomly lmaooo

[dense reef]

Spring 3 Y3, married Haley (and had house upgrade since then) Spring 14 Y2

Not once has she offered

[limber crypt]

ill give it a shot, ty for the tip!

[stark glade]

she don't want you little bro

[woven tusk]

Hope you didn't delete your cribs

[dense reef]

Nope

[woven tusk]

Then it is a mystery

[dense reef]

Its a 1/20 chance man 😭

[tulip fossil]

so the new theorhetical best perfection date with no perfection waivers is spring 1st year 2? spring 4th year 2? my big thought with this is is it possible to get enough stardrop teas while doing perfection to love bomb kent on a non birthday or do we need a birthday which is spring 4

[mellow atlas]

meep

[tulip fossil]

spring 4 year 2 is definitely the upper bound and spring 1 year 2 is the lower bound

[dense reef]

I wish my animals just all produced iridium man

[woven tusk]

It would take ten Stardrop teas, would it not

Sounds plausible with Fishing Mastery

[dense reef]

Maybe the 5 hearts takes longer but it should be CONSISTENT iridium then, so sick of how many slots their stuff takes up

[tulip fossil]

yes it would take 10 to love bomb him on spring 1 2-3 to love bomb him on his birthday spring 4

and queen of sauce recipes can be finished year 1 now so that isnt an issue

leaving kent to be the latest bottleneck

[woven tusk]

Was there a good way to get Rhubarbs in y1?

Wait

Not Rhubarb

Garlic

[tulip fossil]

you can grow those in greenhouserequires rng but travelling cart

[woven tusk]

Hm...

Red Cabbage spawn can be toggled and Artichoke is in the wild seed pool

[tulip fossil]

the only strict year 2 requirements in 1.5 were queen of sauce and kent

queen of sauce cookbook can easily be gotten so that removes queen of sauce which is the only reason it used to be winter 28 year 2

as that was the last queen of sauce recipe

so its purely dependent on if you can get enough stardrop tea to love bomb kent day 1 if its spring 1 or spring 4

[woven tusk]

I would not be surprised if pro speedrunners can do it on Spring D1

(Year2 ofc)

[tough remnant]

Skull Caverns treasure room seeds

[tulip fossil]

lowering minimum day perfection from winter 28 year 2 to spring 1 year 2 is insane

[woven tusk]

Because Gold Fishing Treasures have I think a 7% chance of stardrop tea after mastery

[tulip fossil]

oh right i was thinking raccoon quests and prize tickets

[solemn haven]

dont you need at least spring 2

cause the recipes from mail

[woven tusk]

Oh... To view the scene, huh

[tough remnant]

Spring 3rd for 100%, 4th for summit access

[woven tusk]

So it's Spring 4 anyway for completely different reasons

[tough remnant]

Kent can only send you 1 recipe per day

[tulip fossil]

oh right you do need spring 3 to cook the super meal

still thats an insane reduction for minimum day perfection

[vapid furnace]

And then speedrunners find a way to trick the game into thinking it's Year 2 and causing Kent to spawn on day 7 or something

[tough remnant]

So it's Spring 1 meet Kent and give him 10 stardrop tea or whatever

Then Spring 2 and 3 you get recipes and cook them

[woven tusk]

Wonder if Mr. Qi would call bullshit on that or let it slide because you're still doing the work

[vapid furnace]

Listen, I am taking him out of the war, Mr. Qi can hate me all he wants

[tulip fossil]

yeah and haboo proved if everything was available year 1 its easily possible to do it all year 1

[tough remnant]

SDV actually shockingly well coded for the most part, no real way to do anything serious like that.

[tulip fossil]

so its really just the bottleneck of meeting kent at this point

[stark glade]

I love deconstructors so much oh my god
I can indirectly buy fiber using grass starter

[tough remnant]

Besides which, speedrunners also typically don't do things as by the earliest date

[vapid furnace]

Only when it's most convenient

[woven tusk]

They do things when it is most time-efficient, huh

[tulip fossil]

yeah theres 2 type of stardew high level play speedrun and minmax both fo these do VERY different things

[tough remnant]

Speedrunners are generally sleeping a shitload because it's faster to just sleep-grow crops in real time than to try spend in-game time very efficiently

[midnight knoll]

Kent proves guns are canon in stardew valley, since he has ptsd in one of his heart events when jodi makes popcorn, and guns are the only weapon thats sounds remotely like popcorn

[woven tusk]

Oh, so in this case a "soonest date" thing would be a separate style of challenge

[tough remnant]

Yeah that's challenge running

[tulip fossil]

speedrunners only care about how fast it takes in real time they complete the community in like year 4 sleeping through most days to use rain to water crops and stuff like that
minmaxers use each day to their max potential they dont care about real tiume a minmaxer playing skull caverns can takke like several hours on 1 day pause buffering literally everything

[woven tusk]

Mr. Qi is the one who put the treasures in the mine. He could have given us guns.

But that probably means needing paperwork and firearm licenses and such, so a slingshot just made more sense

[vapid furnace]

... bow and arrow

[tough remnant]

Plus don't forget playing the same day over and over again to get everything just right

[vapid furnace]

Also, he did have Pierre's stocklist

[woven tusk]

Explosive ammo for the slingshot is criminally feeble for what it is

[tulip fossil]

or checking the casino for step count and pause buffering steps to rng manipulate luck

[tough remnant]

Dude runs a shady backroom casino and pays Sandy exorbitant fees to keep it quiet, I don't think he cares about legalities

[woven tusk]

He cares about not doing our work for us

[tough remnant]

Supposedly the rent he pays Sandy is actually what keeps the Oasis afloat lol

[tulip fossil]

qi is canonically willing to murder

[warped yew]

actually i assumed he gives us a slingshot as a way of challenging you

[tulip fossil]

let that sink in

[midnight knoll]

When?

[tulip fossil]

try out of bounds into the summit without perfection

[warped yew]

either that or all the soldiers like Kent use Explosive Ammo

and Master Slingshots

[woven tusk]

If only projectiles could reach Morris.

[warped yew]

which is equally just as funny

[midnight knoll]

He doesn’t kill you though

[tulip fossil]

harvey finds you unconscious with 1 hp at the bottom of the mountain

[vapid furnace]

To be fair, when players in Stardew use the word "dying" that usually means that the player lost all their HP

[tulip fossil]

if thats not attempted murder idk what is

[tough remnant]

Counterpoint, if he wanted you dead you'd be dead. He knocks you out then "someone just so happened to find you lying on the ground unconscious"

[warped yew]

i think its assumed taht Qi does it to punish us and knows how much force to put in

[vapid furnace]

Counterpoint, he did it to prove that, if he wanted to, he could kill the player

[warped yew]

considering hes the dude who puts items in the treasure rooms that means hes floated in and out of Skull Caverns multiple times

[vapid furnace]

I don't think any enemy in the game is that strong

[woven tusk]

No matter how fast you speedrun to SC 100 without warning, he can get there faster

Mr. Qi might be Stardew's own Chuck Norris meme...

[dense reef]

surely its just that he cares more about seeing you achieving perfection than punishing you, so while he punishes you he still lets you live to continue with your goal and learn your lesson

but yeah mr qi is still a beast

[warped yew]

he moves faster then the speed of light, the speed that the plot demands it

[tough remnant]

More impressive TBH is the turnaround time from walnut room to casino

[tidal yacht]

keeps us alive so we can keep participating in his sick games and challenges. its like the saw movies

[woven tusk]

Man might have reeeeaaally specific warp totems or something

[dense reef]

the files for Mr. Qi just appeared on ConcernedApes computer one day and forced him to make a game around him

[tough remnant]

Alternative, Mr Qi is actually omnipresent and capable of being in many places at once

[echo atlas]

Is the red frog egg rare?

[tulip fossil]

although i mentioned minimum perfectiojn without waivers i wonder what minimum perfection with waivers would be just going all out thats going to be far more complicated to calculate but im sure its like fall year 1 with heavy minmaxing

[echo atlas]

And are there other colours?

[dense reef]

yeah

[tidal yacht]

i could buy into that, he stands next to grandpa and chills in the summit scene. like hes god or smth

[midnight knoll]

Yes and yes

[tulip fossil]

the rarest are void prismatic and i forget i kknow theres a third rare one

[stark glade]

truth is he's hiding the warp spot behind him in the casino and his walnut room

[warped yew]

i think its even funnier that qi keeps track of how many stardrops youve ingested.

"Hmmmmmmmm...... The farmer is about 1.5 hearts away from consuming their marriage and obtaining the lovers stardrop. My machine must be able to detect this!"

"Ah.... I wonder if the farmer will eat Willy's family heirloom. my machine must be able to detect this!"

[neon owl]

could be explosives which we know exist

[midnight knoll]

True

[neon owl]

wait you need all stardrops for perfection right

or no

[dense reef]

yeah

[drowsy steeple]

he literally said if you work hard you can be like me

[echo atlas]

This is from the wiki

[neon owl]

so you DO need to get married

[tulip fossil]

blue-green, brown, green (common); blue, red, yellow (uncommon); void (rare); prismatic (exceptionally rare). looked it up

[stark glade]

little buddy

[dense reef]

Mr. Qi pays off Harvey for your medical records

[warped yew]

yeah its required i believe. which means qi knows when your lover gives you it.

[stark glade]

one of the stardrops is a special gift from your loved one yes

[tough remnant]

Actually, Mr Qi is definitely capable of being in multiple places at once. You can test this in multiplayer by having one person in casino and one in walnut room simultaneously. For good measure, also send one to the Mines 100 quest and one to cheated summit cutscene while doing this.

[tulip fossil]

also if you want to collect frogs they can be put in fish tanks

[neon owl]

someone said earlier marriage is not required for perfection

so that debunks that i guess

[stark glade]

kids are not required

[neon owl]

YOU CAN COLLECT FROGS NOW?

[vapid furnace]

The Q stands for Quantum

[tough remnant]

Technically no, because Krobus

[vapid furnace]

Multiple places at once

[neon owl]

he functions the same as marriage though right

[vapid furnace]

... at least until they are being observed but you don't need to worry about that part

[warped yew]

with perfection waivers its possible you dont need marriage

[tulip fossil]

yeah theres 8 pet frog trinkets

[midnight knoll]

Basically

[drowsy steeple]

sandy can also be in 2 places at the same time during the desert fest. outside oasis and inside oasis during the cutscene

[warped yew]

but he will keep track if you are married

[tough remnant]

For the most part. No kids though.

[dense reef]

maybe theres a back door she sprints through if she sees you

[warped yew]

Still the implication that Mr. Qi is waiting for your love to give you a stardrop so he can add another mark to your perfection is insanely funny

[stark glade]

they eat enemies :)

[drowsy steeple]

literally one second earlier she was outside but then I open the door and she's inside.

[midnight knoll]

What even is mr qi anyways

[dense reef]

what can i say shes fast

[dense reef]

Hes Mr. Qi

[stark glade]

I am convinced this mr qi is actually the owner of joja

[tough remnant]

Desert heat is clearly getting to you

[drowsy steeple]

ah yes the classic unreliable narrator MC

[neon owl]

damn i was going to get foraging mastery second but maybe ill do combat

so i can get a frog

[stark glade]

I got the pam prayer cutscene while she was all the way in the fern islands getting some sun 😭

[warped yew]

me too why else does Fizz say that perfection are marked by Qi but he works for Joja,

[tough remnant]

Extraordinary, to use his own words

[warped yew]

Qi definitely owns Joja somehow

[dense reef]

he does look like morris to be fair

[drowsy steeple]

qi is CA self insert

[reef prawn]

i have a feeling that the perfection waivers arent completely legitimate but who knows

[woven tusk]

Qi honors them anyway

[stark glade]

• blue
• mysterious
• knows way too much
• related to joja from fizz?
  I'm convinved

[warped yew]

it isnt if you name yourself an id number i believe, theres a cutscene where grandpa, mr.qi and concerned ape all say your id.

[dense reef]

Similar face shape and smile i feel like (also glasses if thats anything)

only major difference is a shorter face

[stark glade]

not that much

[tough remnant]

Somehow I don't quite believe that Fizz actually works for Joja, not sure what it is that makes him seem so untrustworthy...

[drowsy steeple]

disregarding the fact that he's literally blue

da ba dee da ba die

[reef prawn]

thats the most believable thing about his character imo

[stark glade]

I'm telling you the money from the waivers goes directly into qi's pockets

[dense reef]

Paint man idk

[midnight knoll]

This, maybe?

[tidal axle]

what happens when you complete perfection with a waiver anyway

[stark glade]

nothing

it's the same

[warped yew]

buisness as usual but you have to live with the "You got 16 perfection waivers" on the statue and have to live with that shame

[stark glade]

apart from your perfection score being wrong

[tough remnant]

Those look completely different to me. Nose is rounder, corners of mouth curl the opposite way, has much flatter ears, much rounder face rather than squarish...

[dense reef]

yeah i dont genuinely believe it

just somebody said something about him owning joja

[warped yew]

Well Morris doesnt own joja, hes only a worker.

[dense reef]

True

[drowsy steeple]

qi built joja to mess with you

[tough remnant]

Anyway, Mr Qi is clearly like, Grandpa's Apprentice or something

[neon owl]

if qi built joja it's to create a hero to destroy joja

[dense reef]

Maybe Mr Qi is a joja product himself

[tough remnant]

He's the previous player farmer

[dense reef]

everything they make is that@blue colour

[dense reef]

As in grandpas grandpa??

[tough remnant]

He chose to be extraordinary, so went to the Shrine of Illusion and changed his skin selection to bright blue

Rather than one of the odinary ones

[reef prawn]

qi was grandpas husband obviously

[dense reef]

oh yeah

[drowsy steeple]

they were in a polycule with the wizard

[stark glade]

amazing lore discoveries today

[tough remnant]

I figure Grandpa is clearly too old to work the farm when he dies, so someone else was probably working it for a while.

[neon owl]

qi is a human junimo

humimo

[warped yew]

Qi was probably the one who killed Birdies husband just so you could go on a long winded quest to get a worm for willy.

[tough remnant]

And Qi seems older than farmer but younger than farmer's grandpa

The farmer is some kind of "young"

[drowsy steeple]

guys

qi is abigail's dad

[tough remnant]

Qi is probably like, Middle Aged

[warped yew]

oh shi-

[tough remnant]

I would believe him as Emily's Dad TBH

They are both suitably extra

[drowsy steeple]

I wouldn't believe him as Haley's dad

[tough remnant]

Haley does question Emily being her sister in a single dialogue

[warped yew]

Nah hes actually Pennys Dad, he can appear in multiple places at once but hasnt brought back the milk yet

[tough remnant]

No mention of this made anywhere

[drowsy steeple]

he gave it to us

[dense reef]

Qi is every single NPCs dad (that doesn't have one ingame)

[warped yew]

your right we drank the snake milk i forgot about that

[tough remnant]

Qi is Clint's Dad

[warped yew]

Qi is Vincents dad otherwise how do you explain red hair coming from two blonde people? recessive gene? whats that?

clearly qi was originally a redhead

[drowsy steeple]

dang you're right

[timber kite]

oo is the trees in town having little colorful lights (?) during winter on them new?

[dense reef]

Why do fruit trees take so long man

[tough remnant]

Jodi has reddish hair?

[jagged orchid]

hii i was wondering how specificly the mushroom tree works like i get everything but can i just put two of them next to eachother or does that make it worse? (if theres even any specifics known already)

[dense reef]

Ive had 126 walnuts for ages PLUS I still can't get that damn obelisk

[tough remnant]

You mean mushroom logs?

[jagged orchid]

oh the logs yeah mb

[tough remnant]

Because mushroom trees have been around a long time

[drowsy steeple]

have you seen clint and qi together in the same room

[tough remnant]

Mushroom Logs are complicated as hell

General mechanics are explained fairly well on the wiki

[jagged orchid]

i get how different tress affect what mushrooms come out in a 7x7 but i saw u can put them next to eachother but im wondering if that affects how well it works

[warped yew]

to be honest jodis icon makes her hair look alot more dirty blonde/brown then it does redd

[tough remnant]

I might update it with some reference tables for number/type/quality of mushrooms if I have time tomorrow evening

[warped yew]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/images/f/f7/Jodi_Icon.png

[frank iron]

i just accidentally Gifted the Dwarf Book to the dwarf by misclick is there a way to get another?

without waiting til year 3

[warped yew]

Depends which dwarf book

[frank iron]

safty manual

[warped yew]

cant you just buy it again?

[jagged orchid]

oh ok take your time i was just wondering

[stark glade]

can't you buy that every day?

[frank iron]

no stock ran out

[tough remnant]

You can put the logs next to each other just fine, but you basically always want to start from a grid of trees as your basis, because tree density is what controls how good the logs are

[warped yew]

wait till the next day

[frank iron]

oh ill have to check

i though there was opnly 1

[dense reef]

what benefit does blue grass actually give

[jagged orchid]

yeah thats tree but i mean if you can put them next to eachother isnt it really complicated what the most effective layout would be

[frank iron]

hearts raise faster

[tough remnant]

Doubles animal friendship gain

[regal fulcrum]

has max heart animals by then

[stark glade]

just 2 more obelisks

and it gets beautiful

[dense reef]

thats what i was thinking too lol

[frank iron]

on a new run its amazing

[jagged orchid]

oh damn that looks awesome

[calm dock]

its useful for meadowlands

[dense reef]

yeah i feel like it only helps there

[regal fulcrum]

Indeed...since you start with a Coop

[dense reef]

ill still plant it because its cool but still

[warped yew]

me personally i dislike the aesthetic of the slimehutch i feel like people include it just because you know, its a slime hutch but it also feel like it doesnt really jive aesthetically

[regal fulcrum]

I don't know why, but I like to think of Blue Grass as New Zealand Grass.

[calm dock]

also for people who want to specialise in animals and just mass buy coops/barns later in the game as a money source

[green geode]

what should I be using my golden crackers on

[stark glade]

I'm still unsure on that location of the tea saplings, what do you think could be in that spot?

[frank iron]

the time decrease for animals to produce is amazing if your trying for year 1 community centre completion aswell

[stark glade]

ponds and sheep/rare coop animals
and then cows/chicken/ducks

[tough remnant]

It depends on size, as logs near the edge will always perform worse, but the ideal tiling pattern across a large area is basically this:

TLTLTLTL
LLLLLLLL
TATATATA
AAAAAAAA

T = Mystic Tree with Heavy Tapper and Moss
L = Mushroom Log
A = Ancient Fruit with DRS

[warped yew]

wait you can put crackers in ponds?

[tough remnant]

Yeah

[stark glade]

yeah, look at the ponds in the image I posted

[regal fulcrum]

Fish are indeed animals.

[warped yew]

..... Damn i wish i had known that before my last run

[jagged orchid]

whait why the ancient frient?

[warped yew]

Well i was thinking it was just like barn or coop animals

[jagged orchid]

did i miss something also whats drs?

[dense reef]

wish we could give one to the horse even just for a +0.2 speed or something

[stark glade]

deluxe retaining soil

[warped yew]

we already have the carrot for that

[mellow atlas]

powdermelon best winter crop

[regal fulcrum]

and Horses like carrots.

Strangely that's the only crop we can feed 'em.

[tough remnant]

Oh MB lol, copied the wrong pattern. Just replace AF with pathing.

[jagged orchid]

uhh my farms still pretty ugly so im not sure but maybe just some decorative items it doesnt have to have use no?

[dense reef]

yeah but thats not premanent idk

[jagged orchid]

ahhh ok

i was so confused lol

[tough remnant]

Like, putting AF there is just maximally efficient use of space if you're doing it on GI farm area lol

[stark glade]

that mill is basically there for decoration too lmao

[tough remnant]

Just needs to be something you can walk through

[jagged orchid]

thats a pretty interesting pattern i thought itd look much different

[tough remnant]

Nice, I haven't seen a decorated standard farm in actual years lol

[warped yew]

I thin kthe best animal honestly to use crackers on are rabbits but i also think that might be wrong.

[jagged orchid]

ig thats true yeah\

[dense reef]

Seafoam pudding for only 900 from travelling cart lets go man

[jagged orchid]

also about mystical trees if you shake them can you get seeds out of them or not?

[stark glade]

the south still needs some work as you can see but I like how it's turning out

[warped yew]

Cause what are you gonna do with extra milk? and extra eggs by the time you get mastery in farming

[stark glade]

maybe I'll put some loose path that blocks the grass/connects to the forest and hutch

[tough remnant]

Rabbits are pretty terrible candidates IMO, they're low profit and by the time you get animal crackers, you're probably already getting close to maxing out friendships, making gifts kinda useless

[stark glade]

qi's kindness

rabbit foot is absurd there but it's the only good thing about it

[small igloo]

Okay its taken almost 2 seasons to get 1 batch of Casks to Iridium quality, is it even worth the price increase or should I just sell everything base instead of sitting on hundreds of wines and only selling 60 every 2 seasons?

[warped yew]

Cask half sell half,

[tough remnant]

Sure, but you don't need tons of rabbit feet for that IMO. Qi Kindness is generally easy in endgame, with easy access to diamonds, amethysts, coconuts, tree fruit, etc.

[stark glade]

I think the biggest problem is filling your inventory with carefully selected gifts

[small igloo]

I cant believe we cant make the basement bigger in 1.6, give us the option and just make casks super expensive

[tough remnant]

Fill casks, set aside enough to refill casks when they're close to done, sell the rest

[warped yew]

then what do you think is the best cracker candidate

[stark glade]

ponds

from what I see it doubles the drops

i.e. 10 fried eels drop, 20 cinder shards drop, etc

but if you're talking about farm animals which probably is the case

[tough remnant]

So like, a full cellar layout is 125 casks, assuming you don't do the backfilling thing and just fill the whole basement. This basically means you can sell up to 250 wine per year at double price.

So 250 wine per year should be set aside for casks, and any more should be sold as-is.

[stark glade]

I would say sheep and ostriches

[tough remnant]

Does that everywhere

[stark glade]

yeah I'm just not sure if it straight doubles pond drops, never used ponds before

[solemn haven]

its great on ponds. amazing on ostrich

so many mayos with so little effort

[wintry forum]

who made the statue of blessing cost 999 fiber and 333 moss

[stark glade]

hehe

[tough remnant]

Golden chickens, then Sheep if you have Shepherd, Ostriches if you don't. Everything else is low priority and you should save them either for good animals, or for utility like stingray ponds.

[wintry forum]

i used like all my fiber for tree fertilizer and i've been mossless ever since like winter y1 😭

[tough remnant]

It does indeed. Way they work is when the animal makes produce, whatever that produce is, it makes twice as much.

[stark glade]

you don't know how much I missed having more than 2 stacks of fiber

[tough remnant]

Good times in early 1.5 when we were brainstorming that list in the Discord lol

[stark glade]

1.5 was basically all this qi stuff right?

[tough remnant]

Yeah

[stark glade]

wasn't around for that update

[tough remnant]

Everything to do with GI

Ridiculously huge update, way bigger than anything that came before, probably bigger than anything that will come later

[mellow atlas]

I got a question.. for winter outfit I know it change the Portrait but does it also change their cloth like ingame? the pixel

[tough remnant]

Yes

[stark glade]

yes

[tough remnant]

Overworld sprites aren't on the wiki at all currently

Should fix that

[mellow atlas]

is there an image

i dont see to find it

[tough remnant]

Just said, not on the wiki yet

[stark glade]

gotta do all the work around this place grr

[tough remnant]

Search for winter star images in this channel probably

Should find some that way

[stark glade]

there's a list

https://www.ign.com/wikis/stardew-valley/NPC_Winter_Outfits

face portraits and sprites

[mellow atlas]

tysm

[stark glade]

from ign of all places

[tough remnant]

Probably will put them on the Winter page

[stark glade]

she's so small

[mellow atlas]

why is leah have green pants..

[tough remnant]

Who got the best winter outfit in people's opinion?

I think Haley was a pretty big winner

[mellow atlas]

ikr

they do leah bad

leah green pants...

[tough remnant]

Sam got the biggest upgrade by far though

He actually looks like an adult in winter

[stark glade]

haley has a full on wool turtleneck with a beige coat

[stark glade]

this woman is RICH

[mellow atlas]

lol

[tough remnant]

Pretty sure it's like, a thick turtleneck dress

[stark glade]

but she definetly doesn't give any money to her sister
emily's stuck on a dress with a scarf and beanie

[tough remnant]

I do not like Penny's winter outfit

[woven tusk]

Put a hat on his anime hair and suddenly he looks like a normal dude

[tough remnant]

Definitely hurts her wife rating. She is no longer excellent home decor.

[stark glade]

sam just got back from 8 hours of pure manual labor

[stark glade]

come on it's not THAT bad

[tough remnant]

Definite downgrade though

[drowsy steeple]

are we gonna talk about how people in sdv take hours to get places

[midnight knoll]

Sure, but if they didnt everyone would be going super fast

[tough remnant]

Why do you think we need the bus to travel to the desert

[drowsy steeple]

i mean the desert is indeterminately far away

[tough remnant]

Walking in SDV world is so slow that you need the unlimited travel speed of the bus to get anywhere

[tough remnant]

You can see it on the map

Vehicles are basically magic

[drowsy steeple]

the map isn't to scale

i mean your farm is huge in the map

[stark glade]

it's because the bus turns the world into cutscene mode so you can take as much time as you want

[mellow atlas]

how do u know that

[stark glade]

what?

[woven tusk]

I thought their parents were rich

Not Haley herself

[tough remnant]

Lewis with his pickup truck is able to instantly export all goods we put in the shipping bin (and mini-shipping bins) overnight no matter where they are and what we out in them

[drowsy steeple]

and he comes back with the money in 4 hours no matter what

[tough remnant]

Yeah

And people complain about him

He earned that fucking golden statue

[woven tusk]

Gold isn't even that costly, it's cool

[tough remnant]

If he wasn't so shy about it I'd display it proudly in town

[stark glade]

he's literally embezzling taxpayer money?!

[drowsy steeple]

question, what does he do if you're not around

the bus won't be fixed, the bridge won't be fixed

[tough remnant]

What embezzlement, that's his own salary

[tough remnant]

Yeah, town economy was fucked without the farm lol

[mellow atlas]

you said haley dont give money to emily

i dont know her story so

[stark glade]

it's a joke

don't worry

[mellow atlas]

oh lol

[tough remnant]

They needed to drive Joja out of town anyway because it was ruining the township's balance of trade

Until you came along

[drowsy steeple]

what does the town produce without you anyway

[tough remnant]

Some smallscale mining

Art

[stark glade]

bus is never fixed meaning eternal cuttoff of access to/from the desert
bridge is never fixed meaning the ore in the quarry is unattainable
carts are never fixed meaning people take hours to get to the edges of town
CC is never fixed, people of the town will come and go see that tragic building in the center

[tough remnant]

Hardly a wonder all the youth were planning to leave just about

[drowsy steeple]

does this mean clint is the backbone of pelican town's economy

[tough remnant]

Sebastian, Haley, Alex, Abigail, Sam all had plans outside the Valley. Maru too probably

[stark glade]

small amount of produce, animal products, simple fish commerce, very rudimentary mining/hunting expeditions
no wonder Joja overtook it

[drowsy steeple]

and pierre had a chance to go out of business, that means the entire town can afford joja's produce

[tough remnant]

I forgot forestry. Robin did lose her axe in Cindersap, so she presumably does some small scale logging

[tough remnant]

The food was supposedly cheaper there

[drowsy steeple]

oh she makes furniture too

[tidal depot]

Joja was likely causing an issue because spending at Joja took the money out of the town's economy

[tough remnant]

Farming supplies are more expensive, but Joja Mart had cheaper food according to the townsfolk

[stark glade]

even the damn railroad was completely unavailable until that earthquake happened, they didn't have access to the main carrier of supplies to the town

[drowsy steeple]

if lewis controls exports... oh my god

racketeering

lewis is literally putin

[tough remnant]

Lewis kept the town from total collapse when it was struck by all kinds of disasters that should have spelled its ruin

[mellow atlas]

lewis reminds me more of lukashenko

[mellow atlas]

may i wonder how did he get golden statue of himself

[stark glade]

slice of life anime about being a mayor in a small town while the entire world is filled with magical entities, materials and disasters