mod_development

[crisp dew]

a buildable from the build menu

[bright fog]

Which allows for crafting right ?

[crisp dew]

yup, a craft recipe can be used directly for a building which is immediately placed on a tile vs being placed in the player's inventory

[bright fog]

You can also reference the table in other crafts

[crisp dew]

Rendered UI that entity is generating. (for reference of what it's doing)

[bold pike]

Yall,how to fix this

The weapon mod not working

[crisp dew]

I think your item just needs an icon, right?

[bold pike]

Even i take the gun,it show no gun,just invisible

You can use the gun but you can't see it

[crisp dew]

Probably just missing/mismapped texture_x files, (or whatever they're called.... I haven't ventured into yieldable item modding yet, just tile sprites)

[bright fog]

See the icon page

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Icon

[bold pike]

Thanks,hope it work

[civic galleon]

Is it possible to have a single mod work with both b41 and b42?

I cannot seem to get B41 to see the updated version of my mod now that I have switched to the new folder structure.

[sour island]

You'd need to include both B41 and B42 structures together to support B41 and future versions.

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

Simply combine both, like the example at the bottom of the page

[crisp dew]

I do wish they would have added support for common in B41.

[bright fog]

You can technically access it from B41 in some cases

Anytime you need to access a file by starting its relative path with media you can technically access common/media

This is notably what Chuck did with one of his mod that added a lot of textures and was already heavy, which made duplicating the files not great

However yea this mostly just works with textures usually

[crisp dew]

oh, so I don't need to include 2 packs/tiles?

[bright fog]

That I doubt it

Like I said

It only works at places where you need to add the relative path to the file by starting with media

Like media/textures/myFile.png

[crisp dew]

oh... yeah, tiles don't quite provide that level of functionality

[bright fog]

You can technically do common/media/textures/myFile.png from B41 files too

[crisp dew]

Now I just need to figure out how to preserve tags on picked up furniture. 😛

[bright fog]

mod data

Probably

[crisp dew]

This looks promising

Well I think it worked, because now I have an issue with the weight.... it's 10x what I expected it to be.

yup, that Item (full name) in the Tile editor lets you define what item definition to use when picking up the Tile.

[civic galleon]

read the whole page? What am I, a responsible and intelligent being? 😅

thank you and @sour island for the help!

[sour island]

No problem, and yeah any lookup that starts in the main folder can allow B41 to access common -- but this is highly limited.

[civic galleon]

Sweet! Luckily for me I get to be lazy and just add the correct structure for b42 and beyond 😂 zero complaints with how SWF works so why touch it lol

[sour island]

The most impactful use I've seen is sound files for sound-scripts. Item icons require a prefix in the respective textures/ - but the basic getTexture() doesn't.

[civic galleon]

this did not work

but perhaps this is mod conflict because I still have old version loaded

I think actually I skipped a folder

[sour island]

Subscribed mods take precedent over local

[civic galleon]

no im just screwing up the folder setup. These instructions where it did not have the full tree (skipping %UserProfile% / Zomboid / Workshop when showing the tree) I misread 😅

aka my brain was autoreplacing Contents/mods with just Zomboid. This is what I get for trying to rush this lol

[crisp dew]

My directory structure, media/... is for B41 and common,42 is B42 code.

[silent zealot]

Can you do ../common/media/restofpath?

For paths that automatically start in media

[civic galleon]

I think I finally got it correct hahaha

[silent zealot]

Note quite

You need 42/common

[crisp dew]

no

[silent zealot]

It can be empty, but it must exist

[crisp dew]

that looks correct to me.

[civic galleon]

yes

[silent zealot]

Oh, I'm reading it won't

*wrong

That is correct

[civic galleon]

its ok I just read the docs wrong several times because Im trying to rush for 0 reason

I admittedly just want to keep my position on most downloaded mods if Multiplayer sleep time isnt going to be a setting in b42 multiplayer

[crisp dew]

I would offer to contribute a templated build project, but y'all run Windows so my Bash-based scripts won't do you much good.

[civic galleon]

I only stay on windows because I have 2070 super and cant take a performance drop in S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 😂

but you totally should do that regardless

[crisp dew]

That's fair. NVidia performance has gotten better in recent years, but still not quite on-par with AMD and Intel drivers.

(Running an AMD 7900XTX)

[civic galleon]

I'll be in the market for a new GPU in the next 6 months or so, how has that card been? (maybe we should move to another channel?)

[crisp dew]

Name the channel if you want to chit chat about it. I picked it up because I wanted to use it for 3D modeling and it had 24GB of VRAM.

[bright fog]

He has it

[bright fog]

If at some point the relative path starting in media is used you can yes

[civic galleon]

Got it setup properly! Thanks so much everyone!!!!

[frank elbow]

Why not share it anyhow? I typically write scripts for both bash and batch & I'm sure I'm not the only one—someone would translate it

Plus it could be handy for others using Linux

[crisp dew]

Alright, I'll put something together.

[civic galleon]

When updating a mod, does changing the name (ex, the version number is in the name) prevent one from "updating" the mod?

Zomboid (uploading from b41) is attempting to create a new mod through the in-game menu

[bright fog]

No

[crisp dew]

It's probably because you don't have a workshop ID set

[civic galleon]

OH I noticed I am missing the workshop.txt in the same folder as Contents, is this related?

[crisp dew]

workshop.txt:

version=1
title=Veracious Network's Garage
tags=Build 41;Build 42;Building;Multiplayer;Realistic
visibility=public
id=3133520800

[civic galleon]

yes I am missing that file, this must be my issue

[bright fog]

Yes

[civic galleon]

Oh the holes that must be plugged when returning to a mod from years ago

[crisp dew]

oh I know, that was my fun this week too.

[civic galleon]

more questions.

What is the syntax for the description? is it markdown?

[bright fog]

Rich text

[civic galleon]

thank you yet again!

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ISRichTextPanel

[crisp dew]

Do you mean the mod description?

[civic galleon]

yes, what you view in the steam workshop

[crisp dew]

description=[h1]Veracious Network's Garage[/h1]
description=
description=Veracious Network's Garage adds a tire rack as a storage container which displays how many tires are stored.
description=
description=Expect more features and equipment to come!
description=
description=[h2]Features[/h2]
description=
description=[h3]Unpainted Tire Rack[/h3]
description=
description=[img]https://raw.githubusercontent.com/VeraciousNetwork/PZ-VNGarage/master/docs/images/preview-tirerack.png[/img]

BBCode

[civic galleon]

I have to recreate the workshop.txt from scratch, unless someone knows a way to get it from a workshop upload

[bright fog]

Oh that's different

Edit the description in Steam directly

It's better

Tho make sure to copy pasta it in the in-game editor later or you will override it

[civic galleon]

so upload with it blank and remake (copy paste old descrip)

[crisp dew]

I cheat 😉

[bright fog]

Oooooh

That's cool

There might be that on VSCode wait

Tho you still need to copy it in the workshop.txt

[crisp dew]

# Build a workshop.txt file for publishing mod tags
cat > "$DIST/workshop.txt" << EOD
version=1
title=$MOD_TITLE
tags=$MOD_TAGS
visibility=$MOD_VISIBILITY
EOD

if [ -n "$WORKSHOP_ID" -a "$WORKSHOP_ID" -ne 0 ]; then
    # If we have a workshop ID, add it to the workshop.txt file
    echo "id=$WORKSHOP_ID" >> "$DIST/workshop.txt"
fi

cat DESCRIPTION.bbcode | sed 's:^:description=:g' >> "$DIST/workshop.txt"

yup

[bright fog]

Nice

[crisp dew]

I'm working on cleaning up this build system now so it can be a portable template.

Reading up on Tilezed / Worlded to see if there's a better option than a random Dropbox link.

[bright fog]

Dropbox link for what ?

[crisp dew]

TileZed

[bright fog]

To download it ?

Jeez

[crisp dew]

Have a better approach for it?

[bright fog]

There's the modding tools

[bronze yoke]

the modding tools are outdated iirc

[bright fog]

Uh

[bronze yoke]

there's ones on the forums that are newer

[bright fog]

It's for B41 ?

The ones on Steam are not the ones on the forum ????

In 3 fucking years they haven't updated them ????

[crisp dew]

That what you're referring to?

[bright fog]

wtf

Yea

2021

[crisp dew]

yeah

[bright fog]

Ok nvm guess that's not the main way to get them

[crisp dew]

So, as per https://pzwiki.net/wiki/TileZed, it refers to https://github.com/timbaker/tiled which I'm going to see about compiling. Like I mentioned, originally I found someone's random Dropbox link to the Sep 2022 version, but I'd like a more elegant solution.

[bronze yoke]

there's changes newer than that on steamdb but not clear which of those changes are actually public (and which are actually just internal steam changes)

[bright fog]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/59675-latest-tilezed-worlded-and-tilesets-september-8-2022/

[crisp dew]

oh, ok so a random Dropbox link is the official recommended source..... alrighty then.

[crisp dew]

well that's weird; Github makes a repo private when you toggle it to a template.... odd

[bright fog]

Added the link there, since it was previously available in the Mapping wiki page
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/WorldEd

[crisp dew]

Awesome, I'm onto a template project now, (hopefully someone can port the various scripts to Powershell, as I have experience with it, but can't easily run it to test)

[bright fog]

Template for what ?

[crisp dew]

a build project that handles things like that description bbcode and deploying your mod code to your local game directory for testing and deployment.

It'll also contain a basic directory structure for B41 and B42 so folks who use it (hopefully) won't be as confused about which files go where.

[tranquil reef]

is corpse sickness the noxious smell moodle

[bright fog]

Tbf at this point just figure out the steamcmd to upload manually outsided of PZ ?

[crisp dew]

steamcmd +login $SECRET +workshop_build_item "$DIST/metadata.vdf" +quit

oh that's already done, but it's quirky because it doesn't support tags and you have to close Steam prior to running it.

[vapid arrow]

i have a question

i managed to make a button

but how would i go about making multiple of them?

if for example i need to have 13 of essentially the same buttons under each other

i tried this

but it errors on the selected line

[tranquil reef]

what's the minimum and maximum value of a moodle. trying to apply corpse sickness but it doesn't seem to want to work

[bright fog]

Did you read the error ?

[bright fog]

0 to 1 most of the time

[vapid arrow]

nvm i just realized i wrote self.addChild instead of self:addChild

[bright fog]

Classic

[jolly grove]

Can someone give me a hint where in the files the forage item distribution (42) is located? I can only find flint chipped stones while foraging in winter, no nodules what so ever and wanted to check if that's bugged.

[bright fog]

Search for the item IDs in the Lua files

The items that you know for a fact spawn in foraging

And see where they are used, you should end up finding their foraging entry

[slim swan]

After a week of hard work, I finally got this virtual scrolling working. No matter how many lists or items there are, it only uses resources for the items that are actually visible.

Long lists like those in inventory or crafting no longer need to consume so many resources, which used to cause FPS drops.

[crisp dew]

That always trips me up too, coming from other languages.

[bright fog]

It's due to how classes are made in Lua

I think ?

[bronze yoke]

yes

[bright fog]

Yay

[bronze yoke]

lua does not at a language level support classes, but many of its features are specifically designed to allow you to implement them

: is syntactic sugar that lets you pretend a little harder

[tranquil reef]

Any way to perform an action when a throwable lands? Or at the very least stop it from disappearing the moment it hits the ground

[bright fog]

I doubt it

[crisp dew]

oh sad face; I don't think PZ's built-in mod uploader supports changelogs. That's one thing the vdf file supports which workshop.txt doesn't.

[bronze yoke]

it does support them, but they aren't defined in workshop.txt

you just enter them in-game during the upload process

[crisp dew]

Happen to know if it reads from a file by default, say changelog.txt?

[bronze yoke]

i don't think it reads any file

workshop.txt isn't meant to be edited by hand, you set those settings in-game, it's more like a cache

changelogs don't need to be saved for next time so they aren't kept in any file

[crisp dew]

alright thanks, one more thing for me to tweak with this template then.

[crisp dew]

refusing to list ExampleMod well that's rude of the game to refuse to load my test mod

[bronze yoke]

that's the one hardcoded name you can't use 😅

[crisp dew]

OH, I thought it was something wrong with something else... I started comparing it against a known working

[bronze yoke]

the game comes with an ExampleMod so it's hardcoded not to list that id

[crisp dew]

ok, we'll do YourExampleMod. 😛

I thought that was ModTemplate

[bronze yoke]

that's the folder name, examplemod is the id

[crisp dew]

Oh FFS

alright, take 2

yup, it likes YourExampleMod.

[rich reef]

Hello, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to get the ID of a player corpse/zombie when they die? Trying to track the location of a dead player / zombie.

[thin swan]

That's sick dude, nice work!

[crisp dew]

Alright, I think I'm comfortable with this template project.

https://github.com/VeraciousNetwork/PZ-ModTemplate

Specifically built for development on Linux, but folks are free to port to Powershell if you feel so inclined.

[rich reef]

For more context, I am hoping to be able to use onPlayerDeath to get the player ID, and then somehow record the ID of the reanimated player zombie. I just dont know how to acheive this.

My plan is just to print the original player's name, death location, etc to a log file, and also include the reanimated zombie ID, so I can then try to track it somehow.

I know there is reanimate.bin, but have no idea how to deal with that. I checked through the java code a bit and it doesnt give much detail on how that is parsed, except as just an array.

Anybody have any ideas? Trying to make it easier to track down player zombies on my server.

Thanks!

[bright fog]

Nice I'll add that to the wiki. One issue I find with the template is that you can't directly clone it in your Workshop folder

Also what's that logo mini thing ?

[crisp dew]

it's a thumbs up icon

[bright fog]

Yea nvm

It's for the icon param

[crisp dew]

I'm annoyed that SOOO many mods published don't include icons, so I made sure to include something to serve as a default.

[bright fog]

Before there was a default in B41 actually

The default is the pie icon

No longer in B42

[bronze yoke]

b41 didn't support icons

[bright fog]

Ooooh that's the mod manager ?

Nvm then

You know, it's one of these mod that was basically vanilla at that point

[crisp dew]

And yes, it's not directly clonable to the workshop; that's the job of build_local.sh. This was so that TileZed played nicely with your tiles and packs.

I thought B41 did support icons.... I had an icon in mine.

[bronze yoke]

the mod manager mod did

it wasn't a vanilla feature

[crisp dew]

OOOH, right, I forgot about that mod

[crisp dew]

I'm realizing that B42 added a bunch of new tiles, and loading them by default may not be ideal.

[tranquil reef]

can't for the life of me remember how to figure out the names of these tiles to reference in my script. anyone know

[stiff dust]

probably been answered already;

For build 42 tagging in steam workshop, how do i do it?
i get the mod missing mod.info file while in unstable/b42 version.
i upload in b41, no problem at all but im unable to tag my mod for b42.
mod got uploaded, went back to b42, still same mod.info missing error.

any ideas?

[crisp dew]

_0, _1, _2, etc

erm

yeah, whatever_footsteps_0 is the first item

[bright fog]

Tags are stuck to the old tags in the B41 uploader bcs they don't update the B41 version of the game to fit recent changes

You need to upload with B42 uploader

[bronze yoke]

if you're getting that error at least one of the mod folders in your mod does not have a mod.info where b42 needs it to be

you'll have to fix that before you can use the uploader

[tranquil reef]

the row is 6, so would it be like footsteps_0 - 4, then footsteps_7 - 10?

[bright fog]

Wait you're describing two different problems in the same message and mixed together here ?

[crisp dew]

They're counted from top-left starting at 0, given an 8-column width, the last item in row 1 is _7

So I think in your case, you have _0 through _3, _8 through _11

You can double check it with the Pack viewer.

They'll be all jumbled up, but you can see the images and the key name

[stiff dust]

okay so where does my mod.info folder need to be?
currently, the folder is as follows
1.Workshop
2.MyMod
3.Contents
3a.mods
3b.MyMod
-media
-mod (mod.info)
4.preview

[tranquil reef]

ah, that's much easier lol

thanks

[crisp dew]

plus

[stiff dust]

so i need a 42 folder in my mod's 2nd modname folder AND a mod.info in there?

[crisp dew]

YES

(and I think common from what I heard earlier, but haven't tested that...)

[bright fog]

Check the mod structure wiki page

[crisp dew]

The mod.info at the root is for B41 only and the mod.info inside 42/ is for B42 only.

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[bronze yoke]

you want to upload with the b42 tag and you haven't even got it to work in b42 yet...? 😅

[stiff dust]

i havent uploaded a mod since 41 😅
sorry guys, total noob here

[bright fog]

Like I said, check the Mod structure wiki page, this will tell you everything you need to know regarding setting up mod folders and files

Has an example which combines both B41 and B42 too

[stiff dust]

that makes sense why some mods can work with both 41 and 42, yeah i should have checked the wiki

[bright fog]

Np, people are still getting used to the wiki having actually useful informations

Check the pinned messages of the channel too if you want, I updated those to fit the most recent modding informations

[stiff dust]

i did check those at least, and tried to google this problem. the best i saw was some post regarding uploading in 41 version over 42

[knotty path]

so i changed menu in context_menu_EN and i removed "take stones" words. Then when i right click on campfire it still says "remove campfire(take stones)"
anyone?

[supple briar]

Is there a way to insure keys will spawn in a vehicles glove box?

[bright fog]

You removed the entry from the base game files ?

Also you sure there aren't other options ?

[supple briar]

So I'm having this issue with my cars where when I try to add a blood overlay it doesn't work, it just flickers and looks way too small

b42 btw

[bright fog]

I love how I keep seeing people with this issue

Like constantly every 2 or 3 days there's at least one person that comes and ask about this issue, and I've yet to see anyone give a proper fix

Tho possibly modders found the answer to the issue in some cases, and I'd really be curious to know what the answer is at this point lol

[supple briar]

The blood issue or the context menu thing?

[bright fog]

Your issue

Try to search key words in this channel or #modeling

Someone might have shared the answer to this issue already and I just personally haven't seen it

[supple briar]

Found the fix

so for anyone else who is having the issue where blood isn't working: You need two UV Maps on your car

TWO UV MAPS

[bright fog]

Stonks

[tranquil reef]

Does anyone see why the tiles would be placed too high? If you walk into the footprint, you can see it going through your model about halfway up

I can't tell if this is a problem with the code or the tile definition

[bright fog]

Tiles have 3D aspects now

A 3D depth map

[knotty path]

but doesnt that mean everybody would have to do it if somebody would want to install the mod?

[bright fog]

That's just not how you do it

[knotty path]

oh, ok

[bright fog]

You're supposed to create your own translation file, and reuse the entry ID to change its text

But like I said

Are you sure there aren't any other options that have the same text ?

That you for a fact changed the right one ?

[tranquil reef]

It's a foot print, I already went into the depth map editor for my mod and added a plane, it looks fine here, but in-game it looks like it's too high. Which is why I think it must be something in the code

[knotty path]

idk, chatgpt says the text is somehow connected to campfire sprite

[tranquil reef]

chatgpt is only right 35% of the time with zomboid

[knotty path]

tried many things

nothing worked

yet

[bright fog]

Jesus fucking christ

Do not use ChatGPT, learn the tools modders use, this will be a million time more accurate

[crisp dew]

oh no, chatgpt coding... that never ends well

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Game_files#Searching_the_game_files

[bright fog]

Worse, they looked for informations by asking ChatGPT regarding the files

So it's even worse !

[bright fog]

In your screenshot on the right, are the player feet positioned at the center of the tile ?

Bcs besides the issue with the depth map, the tile is centered on a square

[tranquil reef]

seems fine to me

[bright fog]

You missunderstood me

The right screenshot, in-game screenshot

Is your character's feet on the center of the tile

Or on the border

If not centered, then yea that's normal that the tile is too high compared to the player's feet position and not aligned

Not related to the depth map issue here

[tranquil reef]

ah, sorry

[bright fog]

That's something else

[crisp dew]

Positioning tiles is tricky, I had to make this template to try to get my items aligned........ before I gave up completely and used Blender :/

[bronze yoke]

it does seem like it should be a depth issue

[tranquil reef]

also goes between the legs

[bright fog]

Try to put it a tiny bit higher ?

So it's not completely on the floor

Just a tiny bit above, like carpets do

[random dragon]

Hello everyone, how are you?
I tried to convert The Ultimate Bag mod to Build42, but as I don't understand programming with Zomboid, I used chatgpt to replace the mod codes with those that the build accepts.
But it still didn't work, can you check the files and tell me what's wrong, please?

[bright fog]

I swear if I see one more ChatGPT thing I'm going to commit war crimes

Do I need to make a full on massive WARNING sign pinned everywhere in every modding channels or what ?

[pliant cypress]

HHAHAHH

[random dragon]

I dont understand nothing about codes bro hahaha thats my only option hahaha

[bright fog]

No it's not your only option

You can also just

Learn

[pliant cypress]

its not hard

[random dragon]

I have tried man

[pliant cypress]

look up a youtube vid

[bright fog]

And learn how you're ACTUALLY supposed to use AI to help yourself learn

[random dragon]

I just can´t

[bright fog]

You can't vibe code PZ mods

[pliant cypress]

You sound like a teacher lol

[bright fog]

It will completely hallucinate random shit

[bright fog]

I want to become one 😭

[random dragon]

Ok

[bright fog]

Also I'm not downloading that rar file

Make a Github repo

[random dragon]

can I send screenshots?

[pliant cypress]

If I hear one more fucking word of CHATGBT in your essay im failing u

[bright fog]

No ?

[pliant cypress]

nope no backshots

[bright fog]

I've yet to go through that, but I will possibly soon LMAO

[bronze yoke]

you're basically just asking us to do it for you

[pliant cypress]

I remember when that stuff first came out that made me pass my last year of high school

[bright fog]

💀

[bronze yoke]

which i'm not going to do, but if you are going to do that, don't give us the version chatgpt pre-fucked up everything in 😭

a mod edited by chatgpt is worse than it started

[pliant cypress]

My English teacher was so amazed for my big words lol

[crisp dew]

I almost feel like I need to add a new tag on my mod.... 100% AI FREE

[bright fog]

lol

[pliant cypress]

I swear some people do that with their mods and it ends up horribly

[random dragon]

Well, I just wanted a help, but if you guys dont wanna help, its ok for me

[pliant cypress]

Like I'm still trying to learn my fucking gun mod and I still haven't figured that out yet

[bright fog]

It's not that we don't want to help, it's that you're kind of not giving us anything to help with here

We are not going to download your whole ass mod and look from problems

[crisp dew]

We're glad to help, but there's a difference between helping and doing all your homework.

[bright fog]

YOU find the problems, and ask about them

[pliant cypress]

Oh I figured out how to do some of my stuff is that I downloaded a different gun mod from another person on the workshop and I looked at their work to see what I was doing wrong

[bright fog]

We'll help you, don't worry I've been helping newbie modders for the past 2 hours and even helped one try to fix a script issue for a literal hour and more

Helping is not the issue here

[tranquil reef]

basically the only way to learn zomboid modding lol

[random dragon]

I kwon that the bag dont show on crafting menu

[bright fog]

Explain the goal of the mod, what you are trying to do and what works

[pliant cypress]

Trust me I was spending like an hour trying to put it on the workshop until I download when the mods to look see what I was doing wrong and I was doing it so wrong

[bright fog]

Does your bag exist in the game ?

[crisp dew]

So many times I've delved through someone else's code to see how they do work; it's a great way to learn.

[pliant cypress]

I'm still trying to figure out what does a gun because I want to make this thing like so cool but The thing is right it's so hard and from what I was asking other creators that do gun mods they were saying I was breaking so many rules on how to do it but they told me how to do it though but I'm just too lazy right now

the gun model was like the biggest

[random dragon]

technically yes and no, its texture does exist (the military backpack), but the mod makes it have a practically infinite weight reduction and weight capacity
(sorry for my english)

[pliant cypress]

So what are you trying to do make like a super weight backpack

[random dragon]

Exact

[tranquil reef]

I'm a dumbass, just realized all I had to do was place the tile down manually with the brush tool and I could've seen whether or not it was the code. It is in fact the code

[random dragon]

You can take every item e nothing changes

[bright fog]

Infinite weight reduction and weight capacity won't work in B42, you need to use a tool which can help you do that. But that's an issue for later

[tranquil reef]

Now I just need to find out why this code is placing it one tile too high

(5 hour long endeavor)

[bright fog]

Try to spawn your item in the game

[random dragon]

I didnt know that

[pliant cypress]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387796610

[tranquil reef]

Does anyone know of another mod that creates overlay tiles on the floor dynamically

[bright fog]

It's a B42 problem, and that's an issue for later

[bright fog]

The seasons mod

[random dragon]

thats the same thing but with another mod?

[bright fog]

Sort of

[pliant cypress]

Basically what I would do is download it look for it in your files then I would try to find what the backpack you want to use is then I would make it into like a duplicate of that and basically put the stuff you want on it like carry weight damage blah blah blah

[bright fog]

Actually that mod most likely makes the PLAYER inventory infinite

So that sounds different than an item

[pliant cypress]

That's what I use

[random dragon]

so basicallyI would just change the name of the codes?

[bright fog]

There's a cheat in debug mode for that too

[pliant cypress]

Well basically kind of using it as an example of what you want to do

[bright fog]

No

You do not steal code

Learn from it instead

[pliant cypress]

yepppp

I've learned my lesson from doing that yikes

[random dragon]

Of course (Just to be clear, I don't intend to publish this mod)

just to convert it to b42

[pliant cypress]

I mean that's up to you but that would be pretty cool if you did a lot of people do be looking for certain mods that nobody else does

Or something similar that's discontinued

[bright fog]

👌

[random dragon]

Oh, thats the original mod >>> ||https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2773311916&searchtext=ultimate+bag||

[random dragon]

hmm thats an idea

[pliant cypress]

I would ask if anyone's good with gun stuff tho

I'd would like to vc

because I'm still having troubles with some things

[crisp dew]

I would, but I have zero experience with player item models

[pliant cypress]

Basically the code and the model

[silent zealot]

The worst is when you say "make this small change" and they ask ChatGPT to make the change and return with a completely new Lua file (that also doesn't work)

[silent zealot]

You can do weight reduction 100 to make the bag contents weightless when worn, that's easy. For infinite capacity, it's a lot trickier; java sets hard limits, but Lua enforces those limits... in many different places.

I have an un-uploaded mod that lets you select container categories to ignore weight limits (player inventory, bags, vehicle storage, most world containers) and I just need the motivation to kill one final bug that can lead to duped backpacks.

[bright fog]

Then they tell ChatGPT to fix the code bcs it doesn't work so ChatGPT ends up testing a million things until it finds a code that basically doesn't run so it never breaks

[bright fog]

There's a mod for that

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/JB_Max_Capacity_Override

[silent zealot]

Like compsci exams, "fix this code so it compiles"

Scribbles it all out and writes
void main(void){}

[bright fog]

stonks

[silent zealot]

Mine is aimed at users, rather than modders... I think that one hooks the same function, I remember talking about how I did it return JB was working on the Zuper cart capacity

[bright fog]

No JB did not work on the zuper cart capacity

[silent zealot]

I am mixing thing up then lol

[bright fog]

But the guy that worked on the zuper cart was literally asking to die at that point LMAO

I don't remember JB working the zuper cart least

[silent zealot]

I thought JB helped, I remember the person working on getting very stressed lol

[bright fog]

Likely

JB might have helped yea idk

[silent zealot]

And I do get the frustration of just one "little" thing blocking a project

[bright fog]

Definitely

Especially for such a limitation added by devs

[crisp dew]

My lack of design skills is apparent when viewing the two models alongside mine; I don't think this will be suitable given the middle is supposed to be the same shelf as the left-most. :/

[silent zealot]

Can you copy the shelf image and add your extra bits to that?

[crisp dew]

I tried before for something else, and I had even less success with working with rasters.

[silent zealot]

Render the charger on a transparent back ground, copy-paste it in.

I think if you want to match the left model the biggest issues is the lighting direction

[crisp dew]

Probably, and this is only 1/24th the issue; I have the other 3 directions and 6 variations of each, (because it can hold 6 batteries)

7! no batteries + 6...

[silent zealot]

It's hand drawn so might not actually be possible to match extract lighting, but it looks like the main light if from in front and too the right to shadow the shelves like that

[crisp dew]

I need an unpaid design intern I can just farm this stuff out to so I can focus on the code. :/

[silent zealot]

The versions facing way look the same when batteries are in the shelf, so that half the work done already 😛

I'd just play with lighting a bit, get it a bit closer so it fits without being perfectly identical, and call that good enough

[crisp dew]

yeah, especially with the originals being hand drawn, I just don't have the skills with Blender to replicate it.

[silent zealot]

You wont mimic the drawing via 3d without a lot of work, things like the line on the inner left edge of the side panel don't actually exist but the artist added that to create a visual edge

[crisp dew]

I've watched a few tutorials and actual artists all seem to use UV maps, which is above my pay grade.

[silent zealot]

UV maps are easy, but you need to actually make the texture they will use

How did you create the texture? Procedural material?

[crisp dew]

oooh, yeah, that's part of my problem; I have 2 lights in the scene and the sun is angled too much.

[sour island]

Is there no back to your shelf?

Curious where the light inside is coming from

[bright fog]

true

[crisp dew]

No there's not; it's going to be a battery shelf so I thought it may be cool if the player dismantled part of it to hold the batteries

[silent zealot]

It will be wobbly without a back. That little bit of crossbracing is important, like when you assemble an IKEA bookshelf and it's a wobbly mess until you nail on the back plate

Then it's only a little bit wobbly

[crisp dew]

oh yeah, especially after you load up 30kg of batteries

[silent zealot]

No idea how you'd match the drawn lighting, it's a mix of a vaguly defined ambient lighting with some directional lighting

But closer enough is good enough

Also, you can bake procedural textures to a texture map and then touch them up in an editor of your choice but that's getting into a lot of extra work and time spent learning

[crisp dew]

yeah, that's too many sprites to manually touch up

[bright fog]

Indeed

[crisp dew]

Oh yeah, I'm also doing some tricks to override the default "0, few, many" quantity selectors.

[pliant cypress]

That looks pretty cool

[signal pilot]

Hello, im looking for help for my weapons mod, i need help about the model being slightly off my hands, i don't really know much about how this works, can someone help?

[crisp dew]

We need a weapon-specific mod channel.

[bright fog]

#modeling bruh

[bright fog]

Simply move forward the model in Blender

Also check pinned messages in #modeling , there's a guide to gun making

[pliant cypress]

I can't believe you got your gun to work but I can't

tisk tisk

[signal pilot]

oh my bad 🙇‍♂️

[bright fog]

np, that's fine here

But for a weapon specific channel, just #modeling is enough

[signal pilot]

i did, and it doesnt work. i even tried asking gpt and they gave me some weird code that im supposed to put in the scripts folder (it broke the mod)

[signal pilot]

ookay 🙇‍♂️

[crisp dew]

oh no

[pliant cypress]

That's why you never rely on AI

[bright fog]

oh god

Oh no

Oh dear god please

Make me blind please

[pliant cypress]

Somebody's about to crash out

[signal pilot]

frr, i need to remake the whole script all over again

[crisp dew]

Just breath Jvla

[signal pilot]

im sorry 🙏

[pliant cypress]

if you figure it out slide them by the ends and help me out for Christ sake lol

[signal pilot]

lmao what's ur problem tho?

[bright fog]

FINE, I'M MAKING THE WARNING BANNER

[pliant cypress]

Basically the models invisible and I know the reason but idk how i would fix it

[signal pilot]

did you add the texture.png thing?

[pliant cypress]

I know it's the reason why it's because of the textures but I have to fix that somehow like we make it completely new one for it instead of using one that already exists

[signal pilot]

ooo, goodluck to you sir 🙏

[silent zealot]

Look for a tutorial on baking multiple textures to a single texture/UV map.

Or redo the texturing from scratch with a manually made texture image

[pliant cypress]

I'm still trying to figure out what this magazine system that's the one thing I really need to figure out

[silent zealot]

So you have the gun model working now?

[pliant cypress]

I found a video on how to do it but it's for b41 and its like old blender

[pliant cypress]

I still have to do that but I got told on how to so I just have to do it then it would work

[bright fog]

Regarding AI modding

Tell me what you guys think about it, I'm going to pin it

[crisp dew]

Hmm, I just realized there aren't jumper cables in the base game. A battery charger comes with one set, but where would the player get additional clamps...

[silent zealot]

You're not going to be able to attach a magazine without a working model for the gun

[pliant cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-ai-robot-ai-meme-ai-meme-gif-509507551361818171

[bright fog]

tiny fix wait

Regarding AI modding

Wiki section on the subject

Tell me if you guys see the need for improvements in it

[crisp dew]

More benign than the warning I would have made.

[bright fog]

wdym ?

[crisp dew]

I probably would have just written a quick bot to auto-ban anyone who mentions chatgpt. 😛

[bright fog]

Well that's not my server, and I'm not doing that LMAO

[crisp dew]

or mine would have had a number of expletives in it.

[bright fog]

lol

[crisp dew]

perfect

[signal pilot]

i swear i already deleted the old script lol 🙏

[bright fog]

I'll try not to pin too shit but this is so freaking accurate 😭

[tranquil reef]

good. glad you're also not being passive aggressive or berating people for using it in general

so many discord servers I've seen where people throw a fit at the slightest mention

[crisp dew]

cough mine cough

[bright fog]

Yea I can't blame people using it, I use it myself for stuff, and that's an important technology current (tho I don't think it's dogshit 90% of the time, + I really really really don't like AI "art") but that's my personal opinion and that's not the point of the message

I'm all in to using it to learn the basics of programming

[crisp dew]

We have a few admins on mine; I generally detest using it for production because it fails so often and there's another admin who loves them and keeps bringing in AI bots all the damn time.

[bright fog]

But using it to write your whole mod, I've seen way too many times now to actually deserve a freaking warning about it

People do not realize the amount of shit AI throws at them

[tranquil reef]

Anyone who brings in more than 4 bots in the first place is too far gone

[silent zealot]

It's can be good if you have a very specific coding question that doesn't rely on anything Zomboid related.

[crisp dew]

I will say, writing content in HTML; CoPilot does an OK job at auto-completing information about whatever topic you're writing about. It's accurate about 70% of the time. Python code, about 40%. LUA code in Zomboid, I'm yet to have it provide a functional autocomplete suggestion.

[tranquil reef]

It's also just so lazy lol. If I weren't a programmer and just wanted a custom T-Shirt in my favorite game I'd probably want to generate it within seconds too, but a lot of people try to make really big projects or ambitious shit with 0 goals to actually learn what they're doing

[silent zealot]

I got one functional mod from ChatGPT!

[crisp dew]

Where's the rest?

[silent zealot]

It even wrote the mod.info and gave the correct folder

I did have to remind it to generate poster.png.

[bright fog]

Now tell it to do something else instead of copy pasting the code I wrote on the fucking wiki LMAO

[tranquil reef]

I've been using AI for zomboid a decent amount, but it's mostly for organization. It hallucinates 30% but gives me a much more organized script structure, so I go in and replace its hallucinations with my existing working code, and whatever possibly breaks beyond that I just look through zomboid code or whatever. Works really well in that aspect. Telling it to make "x mechanic" though is always screwed

[silent zealot]

But, techically, a working mod.

[silent zealot]

Heck no, anything more than Hello World is beyond it

[tranquil reef]

It probably wouldn't be so bad if the zomboid error logs weren't also the vaguest I've ever seen

[bright fog]

That wouldn't work for B42

Telll it to do it for B42

[silent zealot]

lol

[bright fog]

Going to spit out my own wiki page again I bet

[silent zealot]

I'll take the win where I can, a technically working B41 mod.

[bright fog]

Just try it out of curiosity lol

[crisp dew]

"Hey chatgpt, make this Blender model for me..."

[bright fog]

Actually there's tools for AI generated models, but I believe they are of extremely low quality, like an insane amount of vertices and shit lol

[silent zealot]

There are AI models for making 3D objects... like image generation, it's a reasonable use because you can look at the output, decide if it's good enough, and it won't fail because of being a bit wrong.

I've not had good results when I tried, but I did get a working model of a gun from a side profile image.

[bright fog]

I remember when Ray showed me the tool in action, and it literally was producing models that had flat surfaces with hundreds of vertices lol

We do be loving the optimized models

[silent zealot]

it added some sticky-out bits that were not appropriate for the gun I gave it, so teh opposite of "too flat"

[tranquil reef]

There's a 3D modeling one that's getting good, has actual retopology. I hate that we're getting that in a full package though rather than just standalone. Let me sculpt my model (the easiest thing in existence) and then click a button to have AI retopologize and UV unwrap

[crisp dew]

ARK / Wildcard has entered the chat

[silent zealot]

3d modelling stuff has gotten better, and there are workflows that texture 3d objects

https://www.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/1l53272/blender_sdxl_comfyui_fully_open_source_ai/

But for zomboid, you want a simple model and a low-res texture

KI5 does his cars with 512x512 textures somehow.

That's definitely skill, since they look great and I assumed he must of been using 2k textures or something.

[silent zealot]

Tire consolidation is not in his skill list. 😛

[crisp dew]

Don't even mention KI5........ they add WAY TOO MANY parts for the cars into the loot table!

[bronze yoke]

i enjoy programming, so i don't really see why i should try and make the computer do the fun part for me

[silent zealot]

He has "small universal tire" and "lage universal tire" so it would be nice if that was an option, to replace the many others

[bronze yoke]

as for ai art, music, etc, i am bad at those things and don't really enjoy them but beyond any ethical concerns the quality is way too low for me to be happy to ship it

[crisp dew]

And when you want to restrict what parts can go into a container, and someone just happens to have over 100 items for just wheels....

[silent zealot]

But, the different tires do look different.

[bright fog]

LMAO the AI warning has a white stride on the right 😭

Oh man that's cursed I'm leaving that shit in

[silent zealot]

There might be a handly table of parts you can use in the KI5 library. But yeah, I'd hate to have to list them all out, and it's annoying how many recipes get added when they could be using generic "front window armor" instead of "1977 chevy front window armor"

[crisp dew]

nope; no handy list of parts.

[silent zealot]

AI knows when it's not wanted.

[bright fog]

LMAO

WHAT

XD

[silent zealot]

🤣

[crisp dew]

well then

[bright fog]

OH WOW XD

Omg that's amazing

[silent zealot]

Oh wow I can fix it myself! Thank you AI for letting me know I am a slightly capable person who can do stuff instead of makinga cimputer do everything for me!

anyway, leave the white stripe.

[crisp dew]

But yeah, no parts list Stalker, but luckily someone in the community volunteered to add new tires to that list once I shows them how to use Github.

[silent zealot]

It's not a problem, just annoying once you know it is there

[bright fog]

I will not soften in front of adversity freaking AI monster !

Damn imagine launching paint and just move the border a pixel to fix it

[crisp dew]

"Change some of the stronger words..." heh, yeah...

[bright fog]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

Improvement to CraftRecipe timedAction parameter

• https://pzwiki.net/wiki/TimedAction_(craftRecipe) : rewritten to refer to the timedAction script block, compared to my previous mistake regarding what it was using (not directly animation actions)
• https://pzwiki.net/wiki/TimedAction_(scripts) : explanation of timedAction script blocks and its parameters

Now I go sleep, with all this shit I took way too long to write all of that, while helping newbies, and making a big AI hater board

[silent zealot]

It's only hate for a specific case that causes lots of problems.

So quite justified I think.

[bright fog]

Yea

[sour island]

Really tired of seeing these magic fix mods lol

Also, welcome to the team jvla. 😄

[bright fog]

Hell yea

I needed Discord markdown, I got pin permission (and THAT channel)

Definitely fine with that, useful to pin stuff and update the pinned modding resources

[sour island]

They're just pale imitations anyway

[bright fog]

damn new version 👀 ?

[silent zealot]

Does that just hide all the errors?

[sour island]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-hill-king-of-the-hill-no-no-no-no-no-yes-no-but-actually-yes-gif-26274899

[crisp dew]

it's like the @ operator in PHP....

[silent zealot]

Or the good old gcc -w for "I fixed all the compiler warnings!"

I need to stop procrastinating nd go do some shopping.

[sour island]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-homer-simpson-voiture-panne-moteur-gif-11912224157250272566

PatBren used this gif to describe it

[bronze yoke]

protip: prefixing every line with // will fix all compiler warnings AND massively improve compilation speed

[sour island]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-cool-great-nice-not-bad-gif-5220607

[pliant cypress]

im so cooked

and lost

Anyone good at making gun textures

And the mechanics to make a custom magazine

[supple briar]

In the home stretch with my car mod

[supple briar]

If you mean having multiple magazine types I don't think it's possible with coding, but I think (at least for B41) you could set the ammo count per gun

but I haven't tried gun modding with B42 yet, could have changed

[pliant cypress]

It's just like the regular magazine for the gun and it's for 42

Because I want to make it detachable from the model itself like if it comes with no magazine or if I have to take the magazine out to add bullets to it

[supple briar]

I think it needs full on coding to do that

I remember looking into that for myself when I was working on a gun mod but it isn't possible out the box, Brita's and other mods that have that have their own code to do that

[pliant cypress]

I mean I see a lot of other mods do that as well for b42

But I just don't know how to do it

[supple briar]

Taking a peak at Rain's gun mod it has models both for and without magazines. So I imagine it's doing something like how the break actions work in the base game and uses two models

Maybe it isn't though?

now I'm curious too

[pliant cypress]

if you wanna come help me We can find out together pookie

jk jk

[supple briar]

If you didn't add that JK i was going to get very very uncomfortable

I think Rain's mod might add the mags as a attachment and then uses code to remove them maybe?

That's my bet

since afaik vanilla guns still have the mags stuck to them

[pliant cypress]

I know my lesbian rizz is mid lol

[pliant cypress]

The thing is right if you want to hop in DMS I can show you like what I have so far

Like I can send you the whole file and you can look at it

because I think I'm going to the right direction but at the same time I think I'm not

I never expected modding to be this hard

im down

[supple briar]

Me either, and nah about the dms, trying to keep myself from going full ADHD with modding right now

[crisp dew]

Close enough for now, I'll just say the player cleaned up the wood a bit and painted a black stripe on the front for some reason.

Now back to actually getting this to do something

[crisp dew]

---@public
---@return ArrayList|Unknown
function InventoryItem:getTags() end

crosses fingers please work like I think you should...

[silent zealot]

It will give you an ArrayList of strings

Note: not a table, an ArrayList so it's zero indexed and uses methods to get stuff instead of the native Lua table syntax

The first time you mix those up is very frustrating

[crisp dew]

Also I'm going to be upset if KI5 has custom batteries for their cars too...

[silent zealot]

Lol pretty sure they all use normal batteries

[crisp dew]

Good, because all the default batteries use Tags = CarBatteries so I don't have to iterate through the item name.

**CarBattery

Since this portion of the mod won't be backported to B41, I should be able to rely on the tag feature.

[silent zealot]

I'm pretty sure here's a hasTag function if you just want to check if an item has a specific tag

Instead of checking the getTags output

[crisp dew]

OH, well I'll be damned, yup! There's a hasTag available.

[silent zealot]

Rain's code is very simple for that: make a cosmetic magazine attachment item that isn't in any loot tables/isn't something the player should ever have directly, named the same as the real magazine with _Attachment appended. Then a little bit of code:

function ISInsertMagazine:complete()
    local Magazine = instanceItem(self.gun:getMagazineType() .. "_Attachment")
    if Magazine then
        self.gun:attachWeaponPart(Magazine , true)
    end
    return true
end

function ISEjectMagazine:complete()
    local Magazine = self.gun:getWeaponPart("Clip")
    if Magazine then
        self.gun:detachWeaponPart(self.character, Magazine)
    end
    return true
end

So when you load a Base.AA12Magazine into you gun the code looks for a Base.AA12Magazine_Attachment item and if it finds one, attaches it to the gun for the visual effect.

If you made Rain's Firearms a requirment for your mode there is zero coding needed, just make the cosmetic attachment item that attaches to the Clip attachment point.

Otherwise you can add a prefix to those method that does the same thing for you guns, so that it works with/without Rains.

[bright fog]

Did you make the texture yourself, or did you reuse the tile texture ?

[random dragon]

It's not literally infinite, it's just a VERY big number of weigth capacity, something like 24271293592
I genuinely don't think it's possible to achieve so many itens that make the bag full

Hey guys, what's the best place to learn how to code for PZ mods B42 for beginners?
I'm going to do this mod in my own, fuck it

[bright fog]

Check pinned messages

[stiff dust]

is there any info on why a modded recipe wont show up in the crafting menu?

[silent zealot]

Does it show up in recipe debugger?

on the debug menu, that will show you every craft recipe so you can tell if teh issue if yoru recipe is not in the game OR the issue is your recipe does not show where you expect it to show.

[bright fog]

Can be a million reasons

See this
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe

[stiff dust]

yeah i figured out why.
Why, WHY is Base.RabbitMeat not a thing, but Base.Rabbitmeat is WHEN ALL THE OTHER MEATS HAVE THE 2ND WORD CAPITALIZED

i struggled on this for over 2 hours

[bright fog]

Welcome to PZ

[random dragon]

I made it to put the mod in my test world, but the bagpack dont appear on the Crafting Menu (tailoring page)

[bright fog]

B41 or B42 ?

[random dragon]

42

thats the recipe code

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe

[bright fog]

That's B41 recipes

[random dragon]

hmmm ok

let me try to update

[random dragon]

the only thing that change between the B41 to B42 is this?

module yourModule /* or Base */
{
craftRecipe <RecipeID>

[bright fog]

no wtf

Read the craftRecipe page

[proper laurel]

hello, how make cars mod?

i love modern cars in pz

[knotty path]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3495513065

[random dragon]

like this?

[bright fog]

No

Read the wiki page !

Check individual pages of each parameters

The wiki explains everything

[stiff dust]

make sure you have an items txt file for GodsBackPack, otherwise the module wont register.

your recipe txt is fairly off.

see mine for reference.
and read the wiki page like @bright fog said.
there are a few mandatory params needed, others are optional.

for example, if you want to use 10 thread

your input
Thread 10

correct input
item 10 [Base.Thread],

but make sure you correctly find the itemID either from the wiki page, or from the game while in admin mode via -debug

[bright fog]

Actually no brackets are not optional for inputs if I'm not mistaken

There just shouldn't be brackets for outputs

[stiff dust]

good point, i looked at some of pz's recipes txt and yeah single items do use brackets everytime

[random dragon]

oh yes, I was thinking that the "item" on the input was just a placeholder

I think that I made the correct way

Going to test on the debug mode

[manic forum]

is there a way to use a duplicate sprite ?

component SpriteConfig
        {
            [...]
            face N
            {
                layer
                {
                    row = crafted_05_7,
                }
            }
           [...]

i want to use a already existing sprite to test it

Error:
java.lang.Exception: Sprite 'crafted_05_7' is duplicate. entity script: BarrelOven

[crisp dew]

Made the texture manually myself by just eyeballing the sprites.

[random dragon]

Still not appearing on the crafting menu e I cant spawn it on the debug mode

[icy night]

At what number/100 does muscle strain become a problem?

I wanna make a warning for it but idk at what number I should warn the player about the rising stiffness

[bright fog]

You can have reused the sprite texture

[bright fog]

Missing commas

[bright fog]

Go in debug mode with health cheat activated and give yourself muscle strain look at which number it changes state

[crisp dew]

Someone who's actually good at raster image work could reuse sprite textures. I've never been all that good with raster work; much better at vector.

[bright fog]

Raster image ?

[crisp dew]

a PNG is a raster. an SVG and Blender are vector.

[bright fog]

It's not hard putting a sprite on an object, you just move the UV around

[bright fog]

Blender are not vectors for textures, what ?

[crisp dew]

oh, yeah the UV map is a raster strapped onto a model.

[bright fog]

https://youtu.be/b5aqvZpMe7o?si=ssDE6AlFODeZ_BNI

Chrck this guide

[random dragon]

On the two codes or just one?

[bright fog]

It explains how to use sprites on 3D objects

[bright fog]

No on the recipe one

You can see you don't miss any commas on the item script

[random dragon]

But I can't spawn the backpack on the debug mode

[crisp dew]

"how to get furniture into blender..." eh? interesting, the only guides I've found just focused on characters

[bright fog]

Then you made a mistake on the item

That module usage is wrong

Needs {}

[random dragon]

https://github.com/OTurato/the-ultimate-backpack

[random dragon]

ohh

[bright fog]

That part 2 should explain the process

There's a section about it

And I've done it numerous time and it's easy to do

[icy night]

ok, the answer is muscle strain takes effect after it reaches 20/100

Anything under that has no effect apparently

[tranquil reef]

I have a custom tileset in my mod. can I copy paste the .pack, .tiles, and .png, and just change the png, and have it automatically work, or do I have to go in and recreate the .pack and .tiles for each of the new pngs

same exact png structure, it's just retextured

[crisp dew]

recreate the .pack; the tile should pick up on the new pack contents, but the pack won't.

(at least in my experience, if anyone knows how to get the .pack to auto work, let me know)

[crisp dew]

Got the UV maps added to this model, thus far going ok, but this is going to cause more complexities as I'm going to have to have up to 4 sets of maps per face, (because objects rotate which will change the lighting for a given face). I think though as long as I got my sizing close, this should result in a much more vanilla object.

[tranquil reef]

Is there any way I could tap into the "advanced" sandbox option button? I want to make presets for some options, but allow manual value changing like the vanilla enums

[bright fog]

Sadly I have no idea how this even works

I haven't put too much time in searching in the vanilla code how it works

And I really don't know how the base game defines the vanilla sandbox options

It's partially java sided if I remember right

[tranquil reef]

I think it's mostly java

[bright fog]

Tho

Something you could do, is hack into the sandbox option menu

[bronze yoke]

yeah i've been meaning to reimplement that myself

[bright fog]

That'd definitely be useful

[bronze yoke]

i prefer enums since users are stupid and won't make good decisions but i don't necessarily want to actually prevent advanced users from doing whatever they want

[bright fog]

There's some cases where it's useful tho

[tranquil reef]

I was about to say, it probably could be done with a custom GUI, since basically all the problems are exclusively related to UI and not changing sandbox functionality.

[bright fog]

There's some cases where giving the choice of enums is good

[tranquil reef]

Lmao exactly

[bright fog]

But also giving the choice of exact number is good

It really depends what you do with these sandbox options

Some stuff are more obvious than others

[tranquil reef]

Also without shit like headers and sliders, it's basically impossible for the average person to look at a sandbox menu and not skim over it almost entirely

[bright fog]

Like let's say you have "stamina lost" option, and you give like low medium high and you want to give the ability to users to chose an in-between too

[bright fog]

Considering you can hack in the sandbox option panel, you can add header tbf

I have a tool in my API that allows you to easily retrieve your sandbox option panel, and even change its color and shit but I didn't go too deep into it so there's no other tools available

But I've used it to add custom buttoms in the sandbox options and shit

And you could easily use that to add more UI stuff in the sandbox option panel

[tranquil reef]

At this point I think sandbox mode should be the default, you click a button for which game mode (apocalypse, builder), then it shows you the sandbox menu panel, and you can just click past if you want. Plus with all the UI improvements. People wouldn't constantly get confused about wanting to disable settings but not realizing it's in sandbox options, etc.

[tranquil reef]

Which mod is this?

[bright fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908459714248048730/1340113810748342363/2025-02-15_01-12-20.mp4?ex=6846cffe&is=68457e7e&hm=8902fed6d1a4eec6da2e5208ee2fdc7fc6c97f0b83ed312a07614c80b50aa0ff&

[tranquil reef]

I've been looking for so long for a mod that does that so I could look through the code.

[bright fog]

I haven't released it, and sadly I might not release it ...

It's a rework of the Spore mod, basically making my own buuuut due to burn out of making TLOU mods and the community, I stopped developping TLOU mods

[tranquil reef]

[bright fog]

https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/The-Last-of-Us-Spores/blob/master/Contents/mods/The Last of Us Spores/42/media/lua/client/OptionScreens/TLOU_Spores_SandboxOptions.lua

If you want to see how I did all of that tho

[tranquil reef]

Oh, awesome. Thanks a lot

[bright fog]

Uses a custom UI I made to show a noise map

And I basically wanted a menu for users to be able to see what the sandbox options did to the noise map

And technically, you could do anything

[manic forum]

Do you got a link, and can i use it to test my mod ?, i currently want to focus on the functionality instead of the .pack stuff

[bright fog]

The UI is fully Lua, so you can cook extremely hard

[tranquil reef]

I've been too afraid to look into it starting from 0. I have enough knowledge to expand on it I think, so that's extremely useful

[tranquil reef]

It's not public yet, also only has a few footstep tiles for a very specific mechanic I was working on with a bigger mod. What exactly are you trying to test?

[manic forum]

i just need some .pack to use as a Spriteconfig for a new "oven" i working on, but i wanna do the functionality fist but i need the Tile ingame and everytime i want to look into the .pack stuff i understand nothing. So something working i can look at would help

[tranquil reef]

I tried my best to understand as little as possible while getting it working, so I'm probably not the guy to ask about any of that. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3457632586&searchtext=snow+footprints

This is the mod that has the .pack tile files I looked through to reverse engineer it though

[manic forum]

Thanks i will have a look into it

what tool did u use?

[tranquil reef]

this

you download it on steam, it has TileZed, WorldEd, and a Tiles folder with the vanilla game's tiles

[bright fog]

Apparently these tools are not the last version

[crisp dew]

Sir Doggy said just use sprite maps, it'll be fine he said.....

an hour later, I am still derping with this because I'm an annoying perfectionist

Coffee, what data do you need for the oven? The pack images or the tile data?

ok, so the steps I would do is: grab TileZed from wherever, (aka modding tools that Sniffles linked), copy the .pack and .tiles files from the game, (specifically newdefinitions.tiles)

With the pack viewer, you can extract all images as either single images or tiles. (Warning, there are about 24k single images in there!)

Then you can recompile the selected images as a new tilemap and import that into a singular pack. With that you can create a new tiles file.

TIleZed is old and janky, but it can be done.

Though since all the published versions of TileZed are out dated, you will probably run into errors as they don't have definitions for new B42 items. You can make it work, but again... jank.

[bright fog]

I never said that what ? 😭

I don't even know what a sprite map is

[crisp dew]

ok, maybe you didn't say it would be fine

[bright fog]

Also I seriously don't know wtf you're doing with svg files ?

Why do you use vector images in tiles ?

Is that a tilemaking thing ?

[bright fog]

Brother, how do you make all this look so complex lol

[crisp dew]

and I use vector so I can precisely set the points at the exact pixels I need.

[bright fog]

But the tiles ARE pixelated in the first place, it's impossible to be precise

[crisp dew]

lies

[bright fog]

No I'm not lying, I did the 3D objects that use tile sprites many times and never needed anything this complex to get good quality assets

[crisp dew]

It's mostly so I can rotate/orientate the points on the final furniture sprite. Trying to figure out which way is 'up' when you're looking at a tiny piece of wood isn't the easiest thing to do

[ancient grail]

thats so cool
you might want to create multiple cam setup with proper masking
so that you can batch render multiple images thats already cropped and ready
you dont need to slice up single images to make multitiles if you manage to pull that off

but yeah it always depends on the image you want to slice so..

[crisp dew]

or I'm just an idiot and don't know how to use blender..... realized there's a "Project from View" option which does most of the hard work for you.

[manic forum]

well kinda everything xD

module Base
{
    entity VacuumResinPump
    {
        component UiConfig
        {
            xuiSkin         = default,
            entityStyle     = ES_VacuumResinPump,
            DisplayName        = Vacuum Resin Pump,
            uiEnabled       = false,
        }

        component SpriteConfig
        {
            face S
            {
                layer
                {
                    row = VacuumResinPump_1_0,
                }
            }
            face E
            {
                layer
                {
                    row = VacuumResinPump_2_0,
                }
            }
        }
        
        component CraftRecipe
        {
            timedAction   = BuildMetalStructureMedium,
            time          = 200,
            SkillRequired = MetalWelding:8,
            xpAward       = MetalWelding:20,
            category      = Furniture,
            tags          = Welding,
            ToolTip       = Tooltip_craft_crateDesc,
            inputs
            {
                item 6 [Base.BlowTorch] flags[Prop1],
                item 6 [Base.SmallSheetMetal],
                item 8 [Base.SheetMetal],
                item 6 [Base.SteelBar],
                item 15 [Base.ScrapMetal],
                item 8 [Base.WeldingRods],
            }
        }
    }
}

it would be a shorter list to say what works :D

• it shows up

[crisp dew]

https://github.com/VeraciousNetwork/PZ-VNGarage/blob/master/src/VNGarage/42/media/scripts/entities/furniture/entity_vn_tire_rack_unpainted.txt

That's my functioning recipe for a tirerack

(You can probably skip the OnCreate)

[stiff dust]

i dont see them on the wiki, can anyone confirm the following skills for SkillRequired lua?

Carpentry = Woodwork
Metalworking = Blacksmith

[manic forum]

MetalWelding = Metalworking

how did you create the tiles

i think that is missing on my end

[crisp dew]

https://github.com/VeraciousNetwork/PZ-VNGarage/blob/master/designs/tilesets/vn_tire_rack_unpainted.png

Started with my spritemap/tilemap/whatever you want to call it, (well after I used montage to add individual images to it)

Then used TileZed's Pack -> Create .pack file, based it off the directory that contained that spritemap

Then used Tilezed's Tile Properties to create a new tileset which let me edit each tile sprite individually

Lastly, install both .pack and .tiles in your mod and link them

mod.info

pack=vn_garage
tiledef=vn_garage 1300

[crisp dew]

ok, their render of the shelf was pissing me off because it wasn't symmectrical (as one would expect if you were to make it with Blender), so instead I just gave up and tried the mask + compositing method instead...

More manual processing required for each tile, but at least it looks like it's from vanilla. For the batteries and charger I found WorldItems which contained a nice UV map.

[tranquil reef]

Is there a way to check for the blood overlays, not the tiles but the actual blood splatter

Trying to detect if I'm on a square with it so I can do bloody footprints

[tranquil reef]

Figured it out

way easier than I thought actually lol, square:haveBloodFloor(), that's it

[crisp dew]

nice

[tranquil reef]

this is a gif, to do this do I just publish the mod without an icon and then add it in the workshop, or am I able to reference gifs in the workshop.txt or mod.info

[bronze yoke]

you can only upload a gif as the main poster using external uploaders

the ingame one only accepts pngs

[tranquil reef]

external uploaders?

[bronze yoke]

you can upload through steamcmd

there's definitely programs out there to make it simpler too but i haven't used any

[silent zealot]

SteamChangePreview is the tool I use.

very easy commandline: SteamChangePreview.exe HighBeams2Animated.gif 3461995683 108600

Just needs the mod if (you get after the first upload) and the game id.

You want a still preview for the in-game mod browser anyway, so I always use that for the initial upload.

And you need to re-upload the gif every time you puch an update to steam since Zomboid overwrites the image, so save the gif and make a litte batch file to save time.

[crisp dew]

A little primer on why the built-in debugger (F11) is so helpful... You can search for your LUA files and double click on the line inside the file to place a breakpoint to pause execution when that code is ran.

Can anyone identify why my sprite overlay of vn_battery_shelf_9 isn't being loaded? (Rhetorical question; I've already fixed it, but educational opportunity)

[crisp dew]

buahaha, I finally have a battery shelf that accurately displays how many batteries are stored (none through 6), AND actually charges any batteries stored within!

.... and just realized the face of the battery charger is incorrectly mirrored..... screw it, let's call it an easter egg

[manic forum]

i can only add existing tilessets to the .tiles?

[bright fog]

Probably ask in #mapping

[manic forum]

was referencing this post from yesterday so here is better channel to write it.

[bright fog]

Tbf the best channel to ask is most definitely the unofficial mapping Discord anyway

But yea you already had a convo here so that's okay

[manic forum]

i don't know, mapping community's are usually toxic to "new" ppl :x that why i am so grateful to have gotten a good answer here :D

[bright fog]

uh

The unofficial mapping Discord was toxic towards you ?

[crisp dew]

Create a new tileset by clicking that and just creating a new.

then those tilesets should be available from the pack data.

[manic forum]

now i can add exisiting tilesets but not a new one

[crisp dew]

Did you create your .pack file already?

[manic forum]

yes

[crisp dew]

Then try clicking 'Tilesets...' just above Tile Properties to regenerate the list of tilesets.

[manic forum]

do i need to put it to a specific folder?

[crisp dew]

I'm honestly not sure, I have mine in:

designs/
   Packs/
   Tiles/
       2x/

I recently reformatted my directory structure and everything still works. Also your tileset .png should be in 2x so you can see the images from the tileset editor.

The full directory structure of my project, also showing my tilesets, .pack, and .tiles.

[manic forum]

IT WORKED, Thanks

but thb TileZed is not a beginner Friendly Tool

[bright fog]

Nop

Tho like again, the mapping Discord should have guides, and there's videos around on how to use it. Tho for your specific issue that you had idk

[manic forum]

i still dont understand why i need a tiles and a pack file xD, why is it in seperate files

[manic forum]

this was the answer, on 'Tilesets..' is the option to add new ones

Thanks man, you really helped.

[pliant cypress]

So like I built this house right anyone know how to replace it a pre built house and make it a spawn point

[manic forum]

looks good!

https://github.com/EvulDev/CustomSpawnLocations/tree/master/media/maps/Muldraugh%2C KY - Hotel

idk if something has changed on how it works

and i think you need to edit a whole maptile and change it with your house in it.

[bright fog]

Yea you can't add a singular building to a cell

This is notably stated in the mapping wiki page

Making a map involves an ENTIRE cell

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mapping

[pliant cypress]

So you’re saying right I can’t replace a house in Rosewood

[bright fog]

No

It involves having a copy of the source map, which in the case of B42 I think you're fucked, and for B41 I think it exists but no idea where or how you get it

Replacing a house in Rosewood would involve modifying the source map and creating a map of the cell you modified

[pliant cypress]

I’m doing b42 lol

Hmmm

[bright fog]

Welp

Perhaps ask in the unofficial mapping Discord (pinned messages)

They might have a solution

[pliant cypress]

Ok ok

Another thing so basically somebody helped me with my weapon, but the problem is with the model that now shows up, but it kind of looks like a cookie crumb then a gun

Any solutions

[bright fog]

I mean brother

The problem is not the cookie texture

It's the fucking size

You need to export it by scaling it by 0.01

[pliant cypress]

Ok

[bright fog]

Try with this value

[pliant cypress]

I did that

[bright fog]

This is scaled by 0.01 ?

Did you create your object by using a vanilla item as a reference size ?

[pliant cypress]

Yep 👍

[bright fog]

Try exporting with an even lower value then

[pliant cypress]

Ok

[pliant cypress]

Same thing

[bright fog]

Show a screenshot of the object in Blender

[tranquil kindle]

In my guide there is literally example mod with model that you could use to reference in size

Unless the link somehow does not work anymore, but I think it should

[pliant cypress]

It’s basically the same thing but the scale is 0,01 then 0.100

I’m not on my computer right now

That’s the same model I’m using

[bright fog]

I mean

Did you even see what your model looks like ?

There's literally bits of textures in between metalic parts

Idk what your UV map is, but jesus I'm scared to find out

[bright fog]

Jesus

Did you generate this model by AI ?

[pliant cypress]

Nope used blender to put all 4 textures together

[bright fog]

@tranquil kindleoh god

Explain to me what he did

[bright fog]

I mean no shit your model in-game is a cookie, look at your texture 😂

Anyway, that doesn't fix the first problem

What scale did you put ?

When exporting the model ?

[pliant cypress]

1024x 1024x

[bright fog]

?

That's not the model scale

[winter bolt]

some unwrap settings do that but i dont understand where all the brown is coming from

[pliant cypress]

It’s the grip of the gun

[bright fog]

This is the image resolution, not the model scale

You didn't scale the model down did you ....

[pliant cypress]

Basically, there’s four textures for the gun that I have the magazine, the grip, one of the body textures and the other body texture. Basically what I did is put all of those into one.

[pliant cypress]

Ohh umm

Let me look when I get on

[bright fog]

Scale it down when exporting in fbx

[pliant cypress]

Unless you want the file to look because I did send it recently for somebody to look at it

[bright fog]

No I don't have Blender rn nor the time rn

[pliant cypress]

Let me get out of bed

@bright fog what u want me to do

[bright fog]

Go in the export to fbx menu

[bright fog]

In transform > scale

Put 0.01

Try different values until you get the model to the right size in-game

[pliant cypress]

Testing now

[pliant cypress]

model is just Invisible now

[bright fog]

It's too small then

Use a scale that's higher

like 0.1

[pliant cypress]

still nothing

[bright fog]

Export without changing the scale

If the model doesn't appear, you made a mistake elsewhere

[pliant cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-squidward-krusty-krab-training-video-poop-gif-13429955355820746777

[bright fog]

All of this is easy and you must be doing mistakes that are fairly obvious once you realize them

Also follow the firearm making guide on Steam

[pliant cypress]

thats what ive been doing

nothing again

[bright fog]

Then you did a different mistake

[pliant cypress]

if this mod was a person I would strangle it

[bright fog]

Make sure to select the object and export selected objects

[pliant cypress]

still nothing

Anyone here willing to look at the whole mod folder to tell me what i did wrong

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[silent zealot]

That's fine, Zomboid is not a beginer friendly game.

[bright fog]

I think I've seen enough. You want to make your mod ? Don't expect people to do everything for you, you need to want to learn or there's no point coming here for help, people are not going to make your mod for you

It seems like there's no desire in you either to just try by starting simple. Literally someone else already went over your exact same issue and you're just losing everyone's time here

[silent zealot]

Step back, make a simple proof-of-concept gun instead of using an existing model, work through the process in the tutorial.

you're better off making an ugly gun where you make the model and texture yourself so you understand what is happening, that will set you up for success when you start working with models other people made that need some work before they are zomboid-ready.

[tranquil kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/korean-sad-cry-meme-funny-crying-gif-1207969963881931756

[tardy otter]

the joys of UV maps xdd

[terse delta]

Is there way to reroll container loot with debug? Wanna check out my distribution patch

[bronze yoke]

enable lootzed in cheats and then right click the icon of the container

[rancid tendon]

hey folks! i am currently working on implementing a clothing item and as far as i can tell i have done everything i can discern correctly and yet the end result is that the game is crashing with the following error:

[09-06-25 12:00:10.478] ERROR: General     , 1749495610478> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.lang.Integer.intValue()" because the return value of "java.util.HashMap.get(Object)" is null at AnimationPlayer.getSkinningBoneIndex line:340..```
looping indefinitely

and i honestly can't figure out where i messed up--anyone have some insight?

for some context: as far as i can tell, this item is literally identical but for some GUID/item id changes to an existing item that already works, and for the life of me i can't figure out what the difference is between them that is causing this crash

not only that but it's copied in the same way as a bunch of other items that work just fine, so the method i used to copy/change it is proven to not result in bugs usually, so i Really have absolutely no idea why it's busted like this

[tranquil kindle]

Is it custom model?

You could provide screnshot of that clothing item xml, its item script aswell.

[rancid tendon]

right now it's a carbon copy of an existing mod item with a custom model just to try to get it to work, but eventually the intent is that it's a recolored version of an item from a mod that will appear in the mod i'm working on if you have the original mod installed as well

one moment and i'll get those screenshots

new XML is the 'MFTEOTW' version, script is provided (and there is another xml file for the tucked version of course)

the guidtable also received its entries for these two items

as it is, the item works and appears fully functional but once your character finishes equipping it the game instantly freezes and starts churning out that error forever

for further context, i've copied another clothing item that also has a custom model in the exact same way and ran into absolutely no issues with it, so i really don't understand what the difference is

[tranquil kindle]

Did you hide parts of your clothing XML on purpose or it's all there is?

[rancid tendon]

in the first one, that's all there is and that's all i see on most clothing items of the type

[pliant cypress]

I’m not asking people to make my mod I’m asking people to help me i followed them damn instructions like 1000 times open taking people’s advice and shit but still nothing works like what you expect me to do. I’m asking people to see if I’m doing it right not make the mod for me.

[rancid tendon]

to compare here's an XML from a working clothing item i have right now

[tranquil kindle]

I don't remember there being attach one anywhere, so maybe remove that line completely?

Attach bone*

[rancid tendon]

s

some do

this is another functional clothing item and it does have that one also empty

part of why i'm reticent to say that might work is because the AttachBone field is in the original XML for the item that works

the second XML in my original message, the non-MFTEOTW version, also works just fine--it's JUST my item with the ids changed

[tranquil kindle]

I'd remove it to be fair as it seems doing nothing. Then maybe show your model in blender with it's vertex groups? I feel like there is wrong bone somewhere

[pliant cypress]

RAHHHHahagata

[rancid tendon]

the problem is that i'm not a modeller, i don't have blender and i haven't messed with the model at all lol--the model is currently implemented and works just fine in the mod

i'm just trying to use the same exact model and stuff as an already existing, working item and it's somehow breaking

[tranquil kindle]

Ah so the model does work if you say it does as a mesh for different item

[rancid tendon]

lemme try and explain a little more:
i'm trying to take an existing item, copy it bit for bit, and only change two things: the ids/guids that distinguish it as a new item, and the texture. so i'm not adjusting anything about the model or how it's being applied, merely applying a new texture and new ids but pointing to the same model

[bright fog]

Someone did exactly the same job as me before I started helping you, and many times he suggested you things that you did not do

He told you to start with a very simple model first, to simply the steps and so you're learning how to do the things

[tranquil kindle]

That item does exist, is there in debug mode, you can spawn it, but the moment you equip it it breaks, or even when right clicking it?