mod_development

[bright fog]

wdym ?

[tranquil reef]

Ah, I've been awake for like 15 hours so my reading comprehension is ass

Thought you two were talking about making custom flyers

Not drawing on them

[bright fog]

Yea I thought that's what he wanted

His original question definitely meant that, tho that's not what we wanted to know himself

[long perch]

I explained myself a little bit wrong I guess

[tranquil reef]

My guess is what writing on the flyer would be significantly harder than it's worth

[long perch]

it does not necessarily have to be a flyer, writing in general on an image

[tranquil reef]

The draw on the map mod only works because it basically takes the default game's symbol system and just makes it happen when you free draw. That's the only mod I've seen that has ever gotten close to custom drawing

[tranquil reef]

Then a map would probably be the best bet

[long perch]

for now I guess using the tools in the game that allow me to write / put symbols will be enough for me

[silent sky]

Hey guys if i just wanted to do a simple retexture of something would I just put the retextured png in the appropriate texture directory with the same name

[winter bolt]

yeah

[long perch]

I tried but I don't know how to do it, I'll try another time I guess or hopefully someone else will do it with the flyers

[brittle geyser]

Hey does anyone know why my model is changing color when blood gets on it?

this is B42, possibly a B42 issue

[sour island]

Did you set a blood texture?

Looks banded like a UV map

You may need to ask in #modeling

[brittle geyser]

I didn't change anything related to blood textures. I only added a texture that corresponds to the model

I'l ask in the mdoelling channel thanks!

[quartz badger]

Hello, I have a problem. I can't find FBX model for beer can. I assume that same model is used for diet cola, beer can and etc.

[vast pier]

Why did bro become skinward

[vast pier]

not seeing anything about
SetTraitDescription
What would the equiv be for professions?

nvm it's
SetProfessionDescription

taken from MainCreationMethods.lua

    local profList = ProfessionFactory.getProfessions()
    for i=1,profList:size() do
        local prof = profList:get(i-1)
        BaseGameCharacterDetails.SetProfessionDescription(prof)
    end```

[weary matrix]

Yay, B42 compatibility! 🥳
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2642486124

[silent zealot]

nice.

[weary matrix]

Still have to find a proper name and poster for this mod by the way 😂

[silent zealot]

I agree with TIS the context menu approach has become a huge mess, but right now the UI is still... quirky

[weary matrix]

yeah well, the whole game is a huge mess 😂

[hot plinth]

Anyone know where parcel loot table is set? 😐
Or mailbox loot table for that matter?
I can find mailbags and postbox but not the houses mailboxs.

[floral patio]

Does anyone know how guns are coded in B42? Because in the media/scripts/items/items_weapons_firearms.txt, guns seem to have a Hit Chance just like in Build 41. I do notice that the closer the zombie, the easier it seems to be to hit the zombie, is there any file in the game that dictates how far is considered "point blank range" where I have a significantly higher chance to hit?

Also, by how much does the point blank range increase the chance to hit the zombie?

[floral patio]

All rifles and pistols seem to have a base hit chance of 50%, but those odds seem to increase when the zombie is close enough

This also makes me wonder, don't firearms function practically the same way they did in B41?

[silent zealot]

There is a approximately 100% chance that there are legacy values still in the firearm definition.

And they are very different to B41 - in B41 you point in a direction, the game pretends you have a really really really long melee weapon and highlights the zombie(s) you will hit.

Now you fire a projectile in 3d that hits the 3d zombie model. Or doesn't.

Tip: when using a shotgun make sure you car is not behind your target.

[floral patio]

This is really odd though because the hit chances were different back in B41

Certain guns had a higher default hit chance than the others back in B41

[silent zealot]

that may still be the case, but more like guns in an FPS

i.e.: how close to they hit to where you aim?

instead of being like a taletop RPG when you have a X% change to hit, for percentile dice and decide if you hit.

[floral patio]

So where is the code for guns and how they aim and fire now? 🤔

I mean, this is probably a worthless question now since the whole gun hit chance thing is getting replaced with a damage chance next patch

So soon enough guns will always hit, but whether or not they damage the zombie is a different story

[bronze yoke]

the rework is that aiming is actually physically simulated so 'hit chance' isn't really a concept anymore, it's not a dice roll it's based on spread and stuff

i would guess that hit chance either doesn't do anything or is just reused to affect spread or something

[sacred matrix]

Are b42 mod dependencies working? In a test sub-mod, the mod names have a backslash in front of them, so the dependencies don't line up.

[floral patio]

There's still some level of it most definitely. Even when the aim reticle is really small, I can still miss

And the reticle can get small enough to where all of it is on the target

[bronze yoke]

yeah, just add the backslash

[sacred matrix]

Never mind - the format updated and you need a \

[vast pier]

@silent zealot soooooo how would I make the description use the language translation files so it's not hard coded english

Assuming it's not 3am for you again

[silent zealot]

getText("IGUI_StatsAndBody_Hunger")

that's it

so simple

it will return the string you give it OR the version of that string defined in the translation files.

Translation files are special - they're not really lua even though they are in lua\shared\Translate

make the folder media\lua\shared\Translate\EN

create a file with the same name as the equivilent vanilla file, which is normally something you want to avoid. In there you put your translation strings

[vast pier]

Ah I know how to do that, I just thought there might be a way without copying all the translations myself 😭

[silent zealot]

You only need to put the new stuff in your file

they get automagically merged

Like for this mod, I will have only one translation string in teh translation file:

[vast pier]

I know but it's an existing translation. It just doesn't get translated due to when it gets loaded I'm pretty sure

Remember? It was the description for the handy trait, it wouldn't translate due to it being injected with lua, so I hard coded it to be English.
It may just be cursed to be in english

[bronze yoke]

all translations are loaded before lua

if you can't get a string to translate i'm sorry to say it is user error

[vast pier]

It would load the translation under normal circumstances, but it has to do with traits displaying text.
I believe it to be a special case, as we have to reload the trait display for it to generate the stat display properly

It would add the stat properly, but would not display the text for it

I'm sure if I overwrote the trait it would translate fine without changing anything

Trying to avoid overwriting anything for compatibility

[silent zealot]

No, what you do is take that string you use

make it a new translation entry

[vast pier]

Wouldn't I need to do that for every language?

It's the same string used in vanilla

[silent zealot]

You do it for English only

If people want they can either send you translations for another language that you add, or make a mod that adds a translation

So for my mod, playing in EN will see "Lick Battery" but playing in FR will see "ContextMenu_LickBattery" because there is no translation entry.

If a french player says "the french translation file is ContextMenu_FR = { ContextMenu_LickBattery = "Lick Le Battery", } then I can add that to the mod.

[bright fog]

MDR

Lick le battery

Nah man what

[silent zealot]

And if I don;t respond, they could release Battery Licker: French Translation

[silent zealot]

This is why I don' t add French translations myself 😂

back to the original question - it was a string that is already in the translation files?

In that case just find out what it gets called, and replace "My English Words" with getText("IGUI_Trait_Handyman") or whatever the proper translation identifier is

[bronze yoke]

if it's a vanilla entry you shouldn't need to duplicate it

[silent zealot]

yeah, I misremembered - I thought we added a new string

[covert carbon]

How do you re-open the command console in debug mode

Surprisingly this is the thing that stumps me

[vast pier]

I think it says the keybind in the options menu

Yeah I was using the vanilla translation string and you said this but I didn't understand it

So I just hard coded it to be English since the vanilla translation string wasn't working

[finite scroll]

can i replace .png textures with textures in a .PACK format?

[silent zealot]

Cheese:setDescription(getText("UI_trait_handydesc"))

SomethingThatTranslates:getTranslation was my 3am way of saying "put the translation function here"

[bright fog]

I believe if you name a texture the same way as the one inside the .pack files, it can override the existing textures

[finite scroll]

alr, good to know

[ancient grail]

except for item icons i think
since the name should have Item_
but when its used via code it should have the suffix

for some weird reason
i dont have enough IQ to understand why

[covert carbon]

How do you know when a custom context option you've added has been selected?

[bright fog]

Item icons are the same

Just that weird part about scripts

But that has nothing to do with it

[bright fog]

A context menu option links to a function to be clickable

So when you click, it triggers the function, and sends the arguments you set in addOption

It's a specific writting, I need to make a guide for it

[covert carbon]

Time to start digging lol

Oh also, I don't get if I am doing this right, but every time I change my code I have to restart my game in order to reload it. I've tried reloading the lua file in the debug menu, but it only works once before not being usable. Is there a way to reload lua without this issue?

[bright fog]

Reloading a specific lua file requires you to write it in a specific way

You can however reload all the lua files in the main menu

You can't have problems with that

But yeah reloading specific files, you need to be aware of stuff that might break in the caching of stuff for example

[covert carbon]

Yeah I don't have issues with doing that part

[bright fog]

Also

[covert carbon]

I had a feeling that was the reason so I hadn't asked for a while but it kept bugging me to quit and rejoin my worlds.

[bright fog]

Check the community debug tools

[covert carbon]

Where can I find it?

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding#Community_Modding_Projects

There's a tool to reload multiple files

And without opening the F11 menu

[covert carbon]

This is going to split the time required for this mod in half

Thx

[bright fog]

Yup

[south bear]

Is it possible to get/setStats from server side with lua?

[bright fog]

Nah

It's client side

Should be at least

[south bear]

SO question -

If you send a server chat message, that is read by a client side mod and then do something on a local client...

Is there some sort of server sync that would then overwrite that change?

Like if I have a mod that changes my xp to max in Fitness, won't the server see that change and be like - ummm no chance dude. Nice try!

[bright fog]

I'm not familiar enough with it, but could be locked behind one of the anti cheat

Which can be deactivated by servers

There's different AC rules which are on/off options

[south bear]

Gotcha

Not trying to make cheats here - trying to understand just what all is possible to change/affect from serverside

It just so happens that the one thing I can think of as a workaround would likely be seen as a "cheat"

[bronze yoke]

no, there is very little security in b41 mp

[vast pier]

👍

[bronze yoke]

be aware you should expect most things to move to the server in b42 mp - very few mods designed for b41 mp will still work

[vast pier]

local function SaltyTraitChanges()
    local Hondy = TraitFactory.getTrait("Handy")
    Hondy:addXPBoost(Perks.SmallBlunt, 1);
    Hondy:setDescription(getText("UI_trait_handydesc"))
    BaseGameCharacterDetails.SetTraitDescription(Hondy)
    local Engiheer = ProfessionFactory.getProfession("engineer")
    Engiheer:addXPBoost(Perks.Maintenance, 1);
    Engiheer:setDescription(getText("UI_profdesc_engineer"))
    BaseGameCharacterDetails.SetProfessionDescription(Engiheer)
end
Events.OnGameBoot.Add(SaltyTraitChanges);```
Translates properly 👍👍

[silent zealot]

I don't expect a lot of security in B42 multiplayer either - it's a big piece of work to make a secure multiplayer game, and means loading more onto the server instead of trusting the clients.

[vast pier]

For anyone using the search feature in the future looking for a way to modify traits or skills with lua.
This script modifies a trait and a profession without overwriting anything 👍

[silent zealot]

Limited anti-cheat to catch some blatent abuses is likely the best Zomboid will ever get.... and a bunch of that will need to get turned off for various mods anyway.

[vast pier]

Best moderation is self moderation!
Don't be a cheating loser outside of singleplayer or friend groups :)

[silent zealot]

But even really basic stuff like you can't stop the client spawning items because the client spawns items every time you take a battery out of a torch or reload a pistol.

[bronze yoke]

from what i can speculate from reading the b42 code, much of which has been restructued for multiplayer but of course the multiplayer code itself is removed, a huge amount of stuff has been moved to the server

[silent zealot]

Yeah, self moderation is the best for an indie game.

[bronze yoke]

all items will be handled on the server

this is something we know for a fact

[silent zealot]

Also, I think the learning curve keeps a lot of griefers away.

[silent zealot]

nice, that's a good change

[vast pier]

Makes the experienced ones even worse. Cuz it acts like a filter

[long perch]

I asked before but well it's been quite a few hours and maybe there are other people. I would like to use the map functions to write/put symbols in a flayer/png/custom image, do you know if there is a way? Either make a map and actually the map is a custom png or do it by adding to a flyer the overlays of the map. I tried before with both ways and I couldn't, but I'm very novice so idk

[bronze yoke]

this however is absolutely true

whitelisting and moderation is the only viable way to keep a pz server genuinely secure

[vast pier]

Even then, be aware what's in the mods you download. Could be a backdoor lurking.

That's a bit much to ask from the average player, but server owners should be more thoughtful about it

[south bear]

lol battery licker!

[bronze yoke]

i reported the most insane possible security exploit a couple months back so i genuinely would not be surprised if there is other scary shit mods can do

[vast pier]

Chuckleberry Finn may have an answer
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3155647614

[covert carbon]

Prank your friends by licking their flashlight batteries when they aren't looking

[silent zealot]

I should re-record with out music playing so I can add that to the mod's morkshop page.

[long perch]

wow, ty

[vast pier]

Hey guys, any idea why engineer can't craft aerosol bombs or pipe bombs even though they're in the listed recipes they're supposed to know?

[bronze yoke]

typo LOL

Bomb should be capitalised in the recipe names

[vast pier]

oml you're right what

that's a vanilla thing btw

[bronze yoke]

yeah there's a lot of instances of this currently

[covert carbon]

Gotta love it

[bronze yoke]

blacksmiths had a typo in every single recipe they have iirc

[bronze yoke]

it's in the upcoming patch notes so you'll just have to wait for them to fix it

[covert carbon]

Does anybody know how custom context options are supposed to be connected to a function?

[vast pier]

I mean I can just patch it for now, no?

when is the new patch supposed to drop?

[bronze yoke]

who knows

[vast pier]

so 2026, gotcha

[robust locust]

I've finally updated my guitar mods for b42... those changes were a pain, but inspired me to do better 😄
Please check out... and thanks for the help along the way... this community rocks!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3410972667
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3410974338

[royal oyster]

does anybody know why it says its missing mod.info?

[robust locust]

try putting mod.info outside of the 42/common folders

[covert carbon]

Keep the mod.info inside of the folder named "42" but move the mod.info file that is inside of "common" to the "mods" folder

From what I know about build 42, the common folder should stay empty

[royal oyster]

doesnt work still

[weary matrix]

for me I had to keep the mod.info at the root of the mod, and also add it to common folder (I'm targeting compatibility for B41 and B42)

[robust locust]

is the file contents correct?

i have it in all of them and it works lol

[silent zealot]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3410973219

[silent zealot]

here's an example: ```local doDIYContextMenu = function(playerNum, context, items)
print("##### doDIYContextMenu()")
local primaryItem = items[1]
if not instanceof(primaryItem, "InventoryItem") then
primaryItem = primaryItem.items[1]
end

if primaryItem:hasTag("DIYSchematic") then
    print("##### It's a DIY Scematic")
    local playerObj = getSpecificPlayer(playerNum)
    readOption = context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_ReadDIY"), items, DIYonLiteratureItems, playerObj);
end

end

Events.OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu.Add(doDIYContextMenu)```

You add your function to the OnFillInventoryObjectContextMenu event, it checks if the item is the one you care about, if it is then it calls context:addOption() to add an option.

[finite scroll]

dear god is that ai generated "pixel" "art"

that's so cursed

it has like inconsistent pixel size

some areas are just completely smooth

[silent zealot]

utterly cursed.

It matches the quality of the mod's code.

[covert carbon]

Everytime I see an update on the battery-licker mod it makes me giggle

[silent zealot]

The workaround for geting rid of the charge from the battery tooltip is so stupid.... but it works.

Like a magician doing slight of hand... I swap the real batter for a fake one, let java make the tooltip, then swap them back.

The accessor function is so I can create one fake battery and re-use it over and over, since I suspect making and destroying items every frame would be bad for performnce.

[tacit pebble]

little weird question here, is there any way to update my workshop mod but not thru zomboid?
like via web or something..? I can't use steam at my work but i want to update.. :/

[silent zealot]

You can edit the description on the Steam website

I'm sure there are API calls that will technically allow you to update without using the game, but in practical terms I don't think you can.

[tacit pebble]

[bronze yoke]

you can upload through steamcmd but the structure is different

[dull moss]

I mean you can just wait few hours until back home? xd

[tacit pebble]

I just found a single typo, made me like:

[covert carbon]

I found the solution at the same time you sent me this and I realized I forgot a singular parameter

1 hour of search for a missing parameter

[frank elbow]

@white briar re. #1318920979581501502 message: That thread isn't for requesting mods; it's for modders to request stuff from the developers for modding purposes. There's a community modding discord where people accept commissions (and maybe ideas?), though

As well as https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1075939080287834113

[umbral raptor]

Can someone help me with smthin?

[white briar]

Sorry about that.

[frank elbow]

No worries

[umbral raptor]

Im trying to add new furniture into the game, but i don’t know how to work with TileZ to make it. Does anyone know how to use it? I have the textures and code so all you’ll do is implement them as new tiles thro the program.

or whatever the name of the PZ modding tool used for that purpose

[robust locust]

add your tilesheets to the tileset (toos>tileset), make sure they are in the correct folder (2x and also a folder outside of that). then go to Tools>packfile>create pack, and create the pack file directory in the top bar, and then the + to give the directory for the tilesets (point it to the folder outside of the 2x folder, put your tilesheet png in there), then create the packfile.
You will also need to add tileDefinitions, so go to Tools>tileset>tile properties and create a file, then add your tilesets from the list that should show. this will show all your tiles, you just need to pair them up and set their properties.

there's a youtube tutorial (by daddydirk i think) that goes through this

[solar briar]

Today I created and uploaded my first mod to the workshop, I subscribed to it but it doesn't appear in my list of mods in the zomboid project, does anyone know if because I am the creator I can't use it that way and I have to use it directly in the mods folder of my game?

[ebon dagger]

Nah, you should be able to download it.

Drop a link, I'll take a look.

[solar briar]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3411001431&searchtext=Refrescos

Thank u so much

[ebon dagger]

Just checking, because its always the first thing to check. Are YOU on build 41?

[solar briar]

Yeah the build 41

[ebon dagger]

Np. First checkbox checked 😄

Hmmm

Nothing is downloading.

It MIGHT be an issue with steam at this moment.

[solar briar]

I use this mod donwolader to see if theres files and downloaded all correctly

well i wait tomorrow to see if works, thank u so much for ur time

[ebon dagger]

It won't let me download other mods either. I don't think its your mod lol.

[solar briar]

That's good, for me at least

[ebon dagger]

Ok, I'm working on a mod to add special ammo types (HP, AP, HEI, Breaching Rounds, etc.). So far everything is going well, other than one little issue.

Anyone have any idea how to force the tooltip for a weapon to update? The type on the weapon HAS CHANGED. Reloading uses the changed types, debugging on firing and on hit verify that the weapon is using the new ammo type, but the tooltip doesn't reflect that. Is the tooltip based on the script item and not the item instance?

I tried the following with no results:

• syncHandWeaponFields(character, weapon)
• and I tried update() as inherited from inventoryItem

[abstract cairn]

Just got my mod on server for testing, I'm getting this error at line 99, thoughts?
ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: 1.0 of non-table: null at KahluaThread.tableget line:1689.

[bronze yoke]

PlayerToAdd doesn't come from anywhere, you probably meant PlayerArray

also for arraylists make sure to loop from 0 to size() - 1, not 1 to size()

[outer crypt]

does anyone know if findandreturn works on fluids other than water?

[abstract cairn]

lmAO ty

[bronze yoke]

and you should index them with :get(i) not [i]

[abstract cairn]

but if I have it go from 1 to 1 (IE there is one person online) then it should only fire once for that player no?

[bronze yoke]

the issue is these count from zero, so it should be zero to zero

like arrayList:get(0) returns the first element in the array list, :get(1) would be the second element

[abstract cairn]

my friend lied to me

told me LUA arrays started at 1 T_T

[bronze yoke]

that's true but that array isn't a lua object

[abstract cairn]

PlayerArray:get(i) ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[abstract cairn]

and just set it to 0 and then -1 from the size?

[bronze yoke]

yeah!

that's right

[abstract cairn]

ty T_T mfw I realize I was using a made up variable for literally 90% of this because i coded this at 4 am lmao

not that it was the only issue but smh would be nice if i didnt do that

[outer crypt]

love the ears, Albion

[silent zealot]

try syncHandWeaponFields(character, gun)

Not sure if it will help, but I saw that a in a few places in reload code after changes were made to a weapon

[bronze yoke]

that's for networking, it shouldn't actually do anything in singleplayer (one of the reasons i mention occasionally that i believe b41 mods will not work at all in b42 mp)

[abstract cairn]

does this look inherently wrong? the :get is making me second guess it, table.remove should return the instance (I'm trying to transfer it from one table to another, I know that there are more optimized ways of doing it with better algorithms but I'm just trying to get it working first lol)

[ebon dagger]

Yeah, when I looked into the decompiled Java for syncHandWeaponFields it was all packet data transfers.

[bronze yoke]

i'm mostly guessing what you're trying to do here but you may want table.insert(PlayersToAdd, PlayerArray:get(PlayerTempNumber))

you can remove from the arraylist but i wouldn't recommend doing that as i'm not sure if it's a copy or not, and if it's not you're messing up some internals

[abstract cairn]

i am intending to remove it from that array, then move it to the other one

as I do not want to repeat players in the playerstoadd

[abstract cairn]

and since you said this I'm assuming that the first instance would be 0 (IE playertempnumber = 0 would mean the first person in the array)

[silent zealot]

Since I have the decompiled code for tooltips handy - (from B41 but probably didn't change) - DoToolTip is using getAmmoType() on the live item.

[abstract cairn]

ty albion the goat 🙏

[bronze yoke]

yeah, i'm looking in b42 and they do the same kind of caching there

[silent zealot]

what does print(getPlayer():getPrimaryHandItem():getAmmoType()) show?

[bronze yoke]

i can't see any way to reset this

it seems like it should be impossible for that text to change after the tooltip has rendered once

[ebon dagger]

Ok, it might just be easier for me to make several dummy guns to swap back and forth.

Copy the durability etc.

[silent zealot]

Does the whole tooltip get cached, or just that specific line? Because you might be able to force an update with something like gun:setCondition(gun:getCondition())

[bronze yoke]

the problem here is this.bulletName

the first time it draws the tooltip it'll assign that and then never change it because it's already assigned

[silent zealot]

You'll likely hate that when you want to make a change/recipe/attachment/etc and there are 5 types of every gun

[ebon dagger]

Oof.

Good point.

[silent zealot]

Or you add somthing else that can be changed and need 25 of every weapon to cover both choices.

And then one day...

[ebon dagger]

And I've already discovered there is no way to get "MountOn" from attachments, so I can't dynamically add the new wepons to the attachments.

Omg, wow.

setCondition totally worked.

[tacit pebble]

Isn't there getMountOn and setMountOn?

[ebon dagger]

There is a set, but no get.

Its in the Java, but not Lua

[tacit pebble]

I remember I tried this once
print(part:getMountOn())
and it returned like
[Base.Shotgun, Base.Pistol, Base.AssualtRifle, Base.AssualtRifle2]

as arraylist

[ebon dagger]

I can test here real quick lol

[tacit pebble]

local MountOn_ArrayList = part:getMountOn()
print("First: " .. MountOn_ArrayList)
MountOn_ArrayList:add("Base.NailGun")
print("Second: " .. MountOn_ArrayList)

First: [Base.Pistol, Base.Shotgun]
Second: [Base.Pistol, Base.Shotgun, Base.NailGun]

I didn't go further than that because I wanted to see only if i can add something in arrayrist
and it worked, maybe 1weeks ago?

[bronze yoke]

the script doesn't have this but you can get it with field access and add to it

[abstract cairn]

this is in my lua shared NPCs folder... I don't think my trait is being initialized cause I'm getting null errors when trying to determine if a player has a trait [by this ID]

what am I missing ?_?
(I also have trait_PreyTrait.png in the ui Traits folder)

[ebon dagger]

I'm probably smoothbraining why I stopped trying to change MountOn that way, aside from that @silent zealot idea totally worked.

[abstract cairn]

this is what I've used in my other mod im working on to init the traits (and it has worked in that mod...)

[ebon dagger]

Now time to go hunt through mods and search the post history to figure out how to save item data lol.

[vast pier]

Okay but I find it hard to believe that just because it's illegal would automatically mean a professional farmer wouldn't know what season it grows in.

[ebon dagger]

Hotwiring cars ain't exactly legal either. lol

[vast pier]

yeah I also take issue with that.
An electrician, engineer, and mechanic have no concept of hotwiring a car's ignition

but a random burglar does?

🤨

[ebon dagger]

I mean, its a vocational skill for nocturnal vehicle aquisition technicians.

[vast pier]

I feel like at minimum the mechanic would understand how to do that

Can rebuild an entire car, ship of theseus style. Can't connect the ingition to the power.

[ebon dagger]

Can't fix the glovebox either.

hahahah

[vast pier]

Need an engineer for that, clearly

😏

But it's things where they maybe haven't done it before.
Growing hemp, and hotwiring a car

but surely though they would understand it??

Like maybe the mechanic knows how, but needs to gain a level in electrical first to utilize it?

[floral patio]

I think I'm right. HitChance in build 42 still matters, effectively making the aiming system similar to build 41 with extra steps. I checked with a mod that increased the chance to hit a zombie, and by the looks of it, the HitChance field still plays a role in whether or not you actually hit the zombie that you're shooting at

[vast pier]

Like I know the basics of making a gun, but I'm sure if I tried to wing it the thing would blow up in my hand due to an oversight

[floral patio]

Again, this is likely going to be changed to something else in the near future (like the whole damage chance where a hit is guaranteed but whether or not you do damage is still RNG), but its still an interesting find

[vast pier]

A mechanic with no experience in electrical should know it's possible.

whereas the average person with no car knowledge might not even know it's an option to begin with.

idk man this is the same game that makes pipe bombs deal like no damage at point blank and sets stuff on fire..

[tacit pebble]

I heard all Hit-Chance will be changed into Damage-Chance

[floral patio]

That's correct as well

In the end, it's still mainly RNG-based

and in my opinion, I like it that way

[vast pier]

I love shoving the barrel of my gun into the mouth of a zombie and the zombie channels their ultra instinct to dodge it.

[tacit pebble]

yeah and it's acceptable since head shot will give more damage while hand shot will give less damage.

[floral patio]

That's 100% a bug

I installed this mod called Point Blank that instakills a zombie if you shoot it when its incredibly close to you (like 1 tile away I think)

[vast pier]

I know, just funny cuz it's cause by the rng I'm pretty sure.
At least partially

[floral patio]

So it "fixes" this bug (and to prevent aiming skill abuse, it lowers the amount of XP you get significantly)

[vast pier]

I don't like that our characters are so inherently bad at aiming

Humans are ranged hunters naturally, we evolved to kill things with projectiles

Our anatomy is literally designed for it

A lot of people won't be great at it at first, but they would not miss as much as we do in game.

[floral patio]

Don't forget that this is aiming with a firearm

[vast pier]

We shoot like toddlers

Yes but the concept of lining up your arm with your target still crosses over at least partially

[floral patio]

Aiming level 0 is the equivalent of never picking up a gun, nor knowing anything about how a gun should be handled in the slightest

[floral patio]

Although the next patch will fix this

[vast pier]

I think most people picking up a gun would hit a human sized target 2 arm lengths away

Hell, even down a hallway

[floral patio]

Every time you shoot at a zombie, it will hit, except whether or not you actually do damage to it is up to RNG

So you'll still stun the zombie and make it stagger for a bit

So I think the next patch will make it more "realistic"

as in

you can actually hit a target

[vast pier]

Also are there any plans to make projectiles like molotovs and various grenades not so damn slow?

Like half the time it just hovers in the air

[floral patio]

whether or not the bullet i shot actually connects with a vital part of their system is a different story

because, again, level 0 aiming means i've never held nor handled a gun in my life

[vast pier]

If you aim straight at the ground outside, the grenade will just hover in place for a bit

[bronze yoke]

yeah they're well aware the throwing system is hilarious

[vast pier]

You aim at the ground in a room, explodes almost immediately

[floral patio]

Although I 100% recommend this mod

This will save your ass

Many many times

[vast pier]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2990322197
This one?

[floral patio]

Yep! That mod

[vast pier]

I wish your poor aiming skill was better displayed with your animations, or possibly having the crosshair itself shake to make it harder for you to aim it yourself

leaving it up to a number generator just feels unfair

[floral patio]

Optionally, you can configure the mod to simply increase the damage of the shot rather than just instakill the zombie (if that's what you'd prefer)

[vast pier]

I think the crosshair shaking but being more accurate than the current rng based system would be nice, and could reward player skill

Like the player skill would almost be like your character's inherent talent, being able to overcome a lack of skill with intuition

Just seems silly to aim directly at something, and then roll low on a die and so it just shoots into the sun or something

[floral patio]

This is a fair flaw with the system, yes

Although I think the next patch solves it

[vast pier]

I hope so, I hate it when player action becomes heavily disjointed due to your character's skill

Stuff like that works fine for text based or tabletop where you're roleplaying

but when you're actively denying a player's action, that they are literally watching themself do. It just feels frustrating

Having the character's bad aim be displayed in a game mechanic would feel less cheaty

This would also be able to be used for other things that affect player aim.
Like panic/anxiety

Imagine a straight shooter gun build who forgot to smoke, aiming dead on their target. The bullet just evaporates because they're too anxious.

[abstract cairn]

how would I get the traits of the player to remove it?
[this is on the client] [the self reference does not work, but im pretty sure the getplayer returns the isoplayer... so maybe the isoplayer.character?]

[vast pier]

I'm repeating myself a lot, idk if I need more caffeine or less

[bronze yoke]

have you played abiotic factor? they use aim shake to represent skill instead of inaccuracy and i find it turns out kind of annoying

[vast pier]

No I haven't, but that seems to be an fps. I feel like the mechanic would translate differently due to it being isometric third person

I could easily be wrong of course.
I'm not a game dev, so it's not unlikely that a shake mechanic wouldn't work well.
I would still prefer a mechanic that represents the inaccuracy in some way that isn't just a dice roll, and has some player involvement

[lapis moth]

what is self here

getPlayer():getTraits():remove(TraitType) will work

[abstract cairn]

ty ty (I'm trying that rn actually lol re-checked the isoplayer docs)

[tranquil reef]

Any way to remove the ability to craft with an item without swapping it out with a duplicate custom item?

Someone also needs to find a way to change item textures in-game lol

Being able to just change the texture of a weapon when painting it vs. having one copy pasted weapon per color

[silent zealot]

Edit every recipe that uses it?

[tranquil reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-cod-call-of-duty-call-of-du-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-ii-simon-ghost-riley-gif-27104686

[silent zealot]

Most normal Zomboid player character

[split summit]

Hello,

Is there anyone that can explain to me how to merge multiple mods ID on the same Workshop ID? I see some modders doing that like AuthenticZ

Edit. I created a hotfix for a older mod and I'd like to make other versions with different balances for different tastes, but I'd like to merge all under the same Workshop ID instead of creating many different mods on workshop

[tacit pebble]

Do you mean this?

[slim swan]

Whythe translate didn't work

[bronze yoke]

Say(getText("UI_ElectricWeapon_Mode_On"))

[split summit]

Yes!! exactly

[slim swan]

thanks

[tacit pebble]

mods/myMod_Core/media/...
mods/myMod_Fix/media/...
mods/myMod_Misc/media/...
all you need is different MOD IDs in mod.info files for each folders.

[split summit]

I tried this and the mods are exactly the same but some tweaks for easier or harder, I create 2 folders with different names on mods/mod1
mods/mod2
Then both mod.info inside respective mods have different IDs and the game is crashing once I load the second mod

[tacit pebble]

Does your mod list show both mod1 and mod2 but you can't load your mod2?

[split summit]

Yes, it shows both, and the mod2 is crashing the game, I am trying to reinstall the game again just to be sure

Honestly is just a mod for my server, we downloaded a mod that had a bug and we fixed the bug, so I wanted to upload so the server can download directly from the workshop, and then we thought about of nerfing the mod, but I want to keep both version and if possible under the same workshop number

[tacit pebble]

then i guess it's different problem? idk if i was you, i'd test with only mod2 and see if it's okay
(remove mod1 completely)

[split summit]

The game crashes when I open the game in debug mode

[split summit]

So I figured out, my game had a API requirement for the mod to run but I accidently disabled and the game was crashing with both mods, it's verry silly I know, I am not a modder tho, thanks a lot for your help

[silent sky]

Anyone done posters? I have recently learned Melee weapons and helmets but now I would like to learn posters as well if anyone could get in touch and help plz lmk

[bright fog]

By posters you mean fliers ?

[sly monolith]

i was told that there shouldn't be any spaces in crafting recipe names in b42, how do i separate words then?

[bright fog]

_

Underscore

Always

Spaces are usually defined with underscores

[sly monolith]

oh ok thanks!

one more thing, would it be overly complicated to have corresponding icons in the crafting menu in b42? like i have an item with 2 texture choices, 2 recipes with getTexture lua, but they both have the same icon in the crafting window

[winter bolt]

if you mean the ingame items
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/How_to_make_a_flier_mod

[bright fog]

Wdym by corresponding icons ?

[silent sky]

Now like posters you put on the wall

@winter bolt

[silent zealot]

Do they have the same icon when in your inventory?

[sly monolith]

nah i mean in the crafting icon, both red black and white versions are using the same icon

only after you craft them they are using the proper one

[winter bolt]

you might have to check some poster mods to see how they did it. i dont think i've seen many people talk about poster mods like that here

[split summit]

Do you know how can I add a description for the item of my mod, so people can know how it works when hovering over?

[silent zealot]

To the tooltip?

[split summit]

Yes

[silent zealot]

Easiest way is the Starlit API, it has an easy-to-use function to add stuff to tooltips.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3378285185

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/3378285185/604141771964811219/

You can also just put what people need to know in the mod description.

"use a turbo encarbulator by right clicking it and select "embiggen" from the context menu"

[split summit]

I see, because I see some mods like snake's modpack where they have some sort of instruction when you hover over, didnt think would be that complex for a dummy like me

I thought would be just an extra line on the item code using item tweaker API

[silent zealot]

The Starlit library is easy - the second link I posted has an example of adding to a tooltip

You just copypaste that into your mod, change the item name and change what you want to add.

[split summit]

I see, interesting seems like an option

[silent zealot]

then make Starlit a dpendency. If you want to avoid that... tooltips are not fun to work with. You can see how Albion to them in Starlit with horrible (but perfectly functional) hack, and for Authentic 1990s Battery Charge Detection to remove the charge meter on batteries I ended up making a whole new FakeBattery object that doesn't hold a charge and I quickly swap that in when a tooltip is being made then put back the original item after.

[split summit]

Awesome, I will see if it's viable to do, because it's many items

[silent zealot]

Lucky for you computers are good at repetative work.

set up a table with the item names and text to add, then the tooltip function just looks at the item type and pulls out the needed text.

[split summit]

I wonder how this works to have small description like on the snakes mod

seems even more complex than using starlit

[winter bolt]

isnt this just a tooltip

[split summit]

Not sure, but how could I add something simple like this on a item mod

[hushed hound]

Do you guys know if there is a way to remove occupations entirely, or organize ones you add instead of the modded occupations being at the bottom?

[winter bolt]

ToolTip = Tooltip_YourToolTipTranslationHere,

[lavish pond]

Is there mod for B41 where you can change weapon damage ?.

[split summit]

lol it worked perfectly, thanks a lot

[naive crescent]

Yea there is one I believe, it allows you to change stats of a weapon. I might be getting it confused with debug mode though. Ive just returned from a long PZ absence

[sick ermine]

hi! do you know which person that was, or where i can find this program?

[winter bolt]

i have no idea who it was, i dont think they ever released it

[sick ermine]

bruh moment 😔

allright thanks for the response

@sour island how long did you ban me from pz modding discord? 👉 👈

[silk wadi]

b41: is there an easy way to hide a recipe from the context menu without hiding it from the crafting menu?

[naive crescent]

So I looked at my mods and you might be able to do it in Necro Forge 2.9b (717015179)

[lavish pond]

Big thanks !

[split summit]

Is it easy to add a funcion like a trait into a item, for example, adding the trait dextrous to a backpack when equipped?

[sick ermine]

is it possible to read the world environment from lua? i want to scan a x by x area to check if it contains some specific piece of furniture

[naive crescent]

This part of the UI is it scalable or is this a TBD feature?

[silent zealot]

Look like they are all created in lua\client\ISUI\ISEquippedItem.lua

At a guess that was made for the top two icons and they just added everything else to it.

There' s no neat "scale" parameter though.

[bright fog]

A tile basically

[naive crescent]

Thanks, It was mostly for my sanity I couldve sworn they were bigger before and Ive spent way to long in the options looking for something.

I had asked in another channel to no avail, its my first day back to playing/tinkering with PZ and I had forgotten that any place besides this channel could be a cess pool sometimes

[sick ermine]

whats zomboid tps

[bright fog]

It varies

It's not constant

[sick ermine]

allright thanks

if i print() in lua, where does it show? (where can i find the printed text)

[naive crescent]

The consol in debug mode

its at the bottom left of the screen

[sick ermine]

thanks

🫡

[sour island]

For ERPing elder abuse with our AI-Granny-Spiffo? Forever??

[sick ermine]

i got carried away trying to mess around breaking the bot and it was not my intention to make it erp and i understand why i got banned but uh could you shorten it to like a week or 2

ill never interact with the bots again i promise i will be a very upstanding citizen 👉 👈

[sour island]

You could have stopped a few messages in, this is also not the place to ask.

[sick ermine]

where should i ask? i stopped the moment i saw it actually went along with my suggestive vegetable consuming requests

[worthy sorrel]

Let's not forget you tried to feed it some racist crap too

[sick ermine]

did i?

not sure about that one

[naive crescent]

What discord are you guys talking about?

[sick ermine]

pz modding

i got a bit carried away trying to break the ai bot

[silent zealot]

There's another PZ modding discord? What a way to find out.

[naive crescent]

Straight up

[sick ermine]

lol

[bright fog]

Yea

[wicked crane]

You were warned several times, it was off-putting

[bright fog]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1125248330595848192

[sick ermine]

i remember getting a verbal "dont do it please" like twice

but i got carried away and thats 100% my fault lol

im asking for humble forgiveness here and idm if you guys say no

[naive crescent]

Thanks, I wasnt sure if it was like an invite only kinda thing

[bright fog]

It is

I mean

It's open

If that's what you meant

It's a public modding Discord for PZ where we share much more resources and have better categories for modding

[wicked crane]

you can come back but you won't be able to use the bot for now

[sick ermine]

i appreciate it a lot, i wasnt planning on using the bot again anyways after all this 🫡

[naive crescent]

Naw I ment like private society kind of thing. I wasnt aware of this exsisting but looking at the date of when it was that link was posted it was right after I stopped tinkering and playing PZ like a full time job

[bright fog]

It's linked on the wiki too

Tho the wiki has been updated only recently

So people don't automatically go to it

And a lot of people think this channel is basically the main place for modding

But when you get to technical stuff I find the non-official Discord way better, which is why I'm more active there now

[naive crescent]

I havent been around in a hot minute back when this was the main spot, im still refamilarizing myself with whats new with the game/community

[bright fog]

Here tends to be recurring questions about the same stuff over and over imo

[naive crescent]

I only tended to be active here because of shared interests and I find this channel conversations to be a little more...comprehensive. If thats a whole server like here then ill probably start hanging out there instead.

[sour island]

There are also channels for every facet of modding, and we have a weekly discord-broadcast event (messages get sent to participating discord) for user generated mod suggestions.

Also, a commission board- neither of which (I assumed) TIS would want to risk facilitating here.

I'd also like to do another modJam 😅 the last one didn't pop off as much as Id like

[naive crescent]

Yea straight up. This is a good first line of defense but its where everyone comes too and this server can get quite noisey. Its nice now theres a spot where all the information and people for modding/dev have congregated

Oeuf a jam...im gonna have to brush up and knock the rust off.

Havent done a jam in a super hot minute

[sour island]

There's none planned rn

[naive crescent]

Thank god 😅

[sour island]

Now that B42 is out maybe there's a theme that could stand out

[wicked crane]

we kind of kicked around the idea of having a partner based event

[naive crescent]

Slice of life

Its more doable with the new skills and end game mechanics

Or something horror. The light propagation was honestly my most hyped new feature and it didnt let down at all.

[sour island]

That's a good point - and Jvla has been working in new features to his Forge API

[naive crescent]

Ive done a few game jams in my time so I got couple of good ideas left to bring to the table 😅

[naive crescent]

You could do a poll of the greater pz community here to see what new feature they like the most and try to find a theme to build off on to do the jam on.

[bright fog]

which one lol

[quick forge]

hello I just started pz modding and I would like to learn via a doc or something, and if you can tell me how to increase the sickness of a player thanks a lot

[bright fog]

Oh to make custom zombies you mean ?

[naive crescent]

Any character stat you want to manipulate do it in debug

[quick forge]

via a mods

[sour island]

I thought you updated it? I saw it on SS

[sour island]

Yeah I think people would be interested in creative custom zombies

[naive crescent]

if your just starting off modding then familiarize yourself with the debug side of the game youll be in there a lot

[sour island]

The wiki has been updated, and has a getting started guide

[quick forge]

I'm already in debug, but how to add sickness via code

[naive crescent]

uhhh youd have to look at the guide and doc

I dont remember off hand

[quick forge]

can i have a link ?

i dont find

[naive crescent]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

heres a good place to start

[quick forge]

thanks a lot !!

[naive crescent]

im sure the others have more precise information to documentation on hand

[naive crescent]

if you click the pinned button on the workshop shop channels it will show you pinned posts with relevant links and important information to help you get started.

[bright fog]

I did yea

[bright fog]

Yea but my job is just to document it

Once I document it, sure we can make it a thing

I completely rewrote the framework for B42 to take into account the various improvements

And I improved it by a massive amount just by having that OnZombieCreate event

[naive crescent]

Is the current state of the documentation for it public?

[bright fog]

I got more planned, like Bandit does to override the control of zombies

[bright fog]

There isn't much doc for it rn

I have the doc for B41 version, and even then I really didn't put the work needed for it

It's very easy to use tho, simply check out TLOU Infected to see how I use it

[naive crescent]

I actually saw that mod today, havent checked it out though but have it in my pile of mod references scour through it. (only saw it today as it was my first time going through all the 42 mods since launch)

I knew once 42 dropped the flood gate for these types of mods were going to burst

[bright fog]

The mod already existed for B41

I had already made it before

But B42 brought me one or two tools to improve it a lot

And I myself learned a lot

So rewrote it with all my new knowledge, and since I had already done the work on understanding how to do things I didn't lose my time on it, while the first time I developed it it took me a while

[naive crescent]

If May 17th was the date you dropped it for 41 then thats why its so new and fresh to me. I was on a PZ sabbatical

[atomic hare]

Guys, where in the wiki i can find info about overriding vanilla gear stats? I cant seem to find. (I want it to because i want to disable the overriding that a mod a does)

[dark spear]

hi, idk if this is the correct place to ask this, but maybe someone here has experience with making such mods and could provide help
I'm trying to make a true music addon using the true music b42 mod
I'm guessing it works because there is a lot of such mods popping up in the workshop. I've tried loading it by itself, and it seems to work , as I can find the new items in the debug item list

But it's not working correctly for me? Specifically, when I load my custom true music addong alongside ture music b42, it "unloads" , because the new items or cassettes are just not present, even in the debug item list, does anyone know why could this happen?

oh and I just noticed that all the item categories in the debug item list disappear too.. does it unload all of my mods?? why would it do that

[atomic hare]

Check your debug.log, it might give you hints

[sharp plinth]

Hey guys! Finally made video showing my Project Zomboid server manager! https://youtu.be/lfyC6VQr0XU this is the next update Mod Manager 🙂 any feedback be great ❤️

[dark spear]

thanks, no idea why it was doing this, but I managed to fix it.
for some reason, when loading the mod, it referred to the path /home/sidoka/Zomboid/mods/home/sidoka/Zomboid/Workshop/mymod instead of the correct one /home/sidoka/Zomboid/Workshop/mymod, which, I guess, forced it to unload all the mods due to a path mismatch, or smth, I dunno
point is, I uploaded the mod to steam workshop and subscribed to it, and then removed the mod files from the Zomboid/Workshop folder. After doing this, it actually loaded fine without errors

[naive crescent]

If you really want to do just that what you could do is make a local copy of the mod go into its code and change it and remove the workshop version from your save

[naive crescent]

Because youve made a mistake somehwere. It doesn't 'unload' what happens is that something in the mod like the lua or the javascript crashed in a way that the game probaly ejected the mod entirely from the compiler to avoid crashing all together.

Most likley its a null reference pointer or a conflict

[slim swan]

is this right in B42

I try to locate an item from all container

[bright fog]

There's already methods for that

[slim swan]

only in the inventory can work

[bright fog]

Should be findItem or recursed find

Check findItem methods

[frank elbow]

Java, not JavaScript. We're fortunate enough to not live in the reality in which PZ is JavaScript (not a js hater like many are, but the thought of that is nightmarish)

[naive crescent]

Thank you for the correction. This PZ troubleshooting my own thing is fatiguing me.

[hot plinth]

Question relating to fileGuidTable, do I need to include the entire base guid table with my additions? I noticed it in Authentic Z it basically starts with base games Guid then below starts adding their custom clothing.
But if its a matter of the mod overwriting the entire table how do different clothes mods remain compatible with each other? 😐

[bright fog]

Wtf AZ does that ?

Hell no never do that

[bronze yoke]

if you're adding outfits, you need to include the guid for every vanilla item you use in the fileguidtable

[bright fog]

Ooh

[hot plinth]

Oh if you touch a Vanilla item? Guess that makes sense. But yeah AZ seems to do that. Granted maybe they have a reason for it but I never dived into much of AZ other than getting it for the miniskirts lol.

[oak hornet]

Hello, I'm new to modding here, where do you find the "Events" Lua / Listener/ Broadcaster ?

[bronze yoke]

they're detailed here https://github.com/demiurgeQuantified/PZEventDoc/blob/develop/docs/Events.md

[winter bolt]

no if you even just use a vanilla item in a modded outfit the vanilla item has to be in the mod's fileguidtable for some reason

otherwise the zombie will just be naked

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_event 💀

[oak hornet]

Oh... So thats what it was, just weird that I can't find it after digging the entire Lua File, Thanks

[bright fog]

I'd really like that we push to share the wiki, so it becomes an habit to modders to check the wiki for some info or resources on the subject

[undone elbow]

The wiki is good for not saying the same thing over and over again.

[bronze yoke]

in this case they just contain the same information anyway

[bright fog]

I do hope to improve it further, add new stuff, got a few bits planned but some of these I still need to learn how to do, like UI I hope to do that one day but I don't know much I need to fuck around with it, and timed action which I know well enough to be able to write something about it.

However my main goal is to actually have people share it so it becomes a centralized documentation that anyone can add to, but even more importantly is to actually have modders start documenting on it

[bright fog]

Your guide is even linked at the end anyway but if you think your guide is worth more sharing than the wiki I'm interested to know why because this kind of limits this effort of pushing modders to actually have a general documentation that every modders contribute to

I've explained it already and already debated it, but this separation of guides and plateforms to write guides on, different gits etc is just making documentation for modding terrible

Everyone's fighting to repeat the same shit over and over, like Star said

Like cool you have this guide that talks about that, this guide that talks about that but at the end of the day all keep repeating the same shit over and over

[bronze yoke]

i just don't really see copy pasting existing reliable resources onto the wiki as consolidation, imo it's further fragmentation

[bright fog]

Yea no shit bcs no one's working on it besides me and maybe Chris who did some few bits etc

ANYONE can modify the pages

[bright fog]

Such a loss of time to have everyone do their own guides for modding and shit

[bronze yoke]

how so

idk about other resources, but i only created resources that didn't exist yet

[bright fog]

Tell me, which guide do I share
https://github.com/MrBounty/PZ-Mod---Doc
https://github.com/demiurgeQuantified/PZEventDoc
https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide
and there's probably others here, that's only the ones I got stared

How many guides do people need to read to learn something new ?

Seriously

[bright fog]

Yeah, and no one can participate

[patent adder]

you guys got any tips for starting to make pz mods? ive made a couple of mods for some other games but im really lost when it comes to pz lol

[bronze yoke]

it's literally on github

???

[bronze yoke]

all of them? they all share different and useful information

[winter bolt]

perfect timing lol

[bright fog]

You're the one maintaining it ? If anyone does a pull request you need to accept it ?

[bronze yoke]

that's correct

however should i disappear it is completely possible for anyone to fork it

[bright fog]

Then that's not open, I'm sorry but that's not an open project. What if you disagree with someone wanting to add info about something, you're the one blocking the roads to the documentation

On the wiki, anyone can add on to stuff, and if we don't agree, we're forced to discuss to coexist

[bright fog]

And then people end up sharing YOUR original guide
"Oh sorry you got the old link ? Nah you need to check the N fork for the up to date guide"

If you're not fine the wiki, tell me about it so I can work on solutions

[silent sky]

When you mod in items like helmets and melee weapons is there anything i have to do to make sure they spawn in the world or have the chance too

[winter bolt]

it depends what you want to make but this is a good place to start
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

[patent adder]

mainly general qol mods maybe some weapons/vehicles etc, ill read up on this really quick

[winter bolt]

you have to insert them into the distribution tables
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Procedural_distributions#How_to_add_your_own_items_to_distributions

[bright fog]

I'm trying to push community effort in documenting and I don't want to have to constantly fight modders who are already big in documentation stuff to push for a global sharing of documentation that can be modified by everyone without forced limitations and leadership. That's why I didn't want to force myself onto the leader slot when I first started to look at the wiki and how we can actually use it for modding, because I'm not YOUR chief on what should be or not on the wiki. I just want to push easier documentation available for every new and older modders + it's an official website for PZ, what do you need more

If something is not right to you with the wiki rn, please tell me

Please really tell me what you need if you do need something to start getting on the wiki

Or tell me what you think we should do completely differently

[bronze yoke]

i haven't done anything to oppose the efforts of the wiki

i've contributed to it myself and i let you use the events data collected and maintained almost exclusively by me over the last two years

i just sent a link to a resource that answered a question and you got mad at me

[bright fog]

I know you're not opposed by it, you've accepted to help me more than one time to clarify stuff. But I'm really trying to push to use the wiki and you just never link it when it comes to event, so I just don't get why

You've mentioned "fragmentation" of documentation but if you accept to help the wiki to develop good documentation for modding, don't you think doing that is exactly "fragmentation" ?

So it just felt like you don't consider the wiki the go-to in a way and if you think that's because of how it's presented or stuff, i'd rather you tell me

Anyway sorry I'm not mad, just confused

[bronze yoke]

there's nothing to my knowledge wrong with the wiki version

[vast pier]

Is there a way to make it so explosives deal more damage to players? feels weird to have the pipe bomb I'm editing instakill zombies but the player can just face tank it and walk away with a few scratches

[bronze yoke]

there's probably a better way than this but there is an event when they explode so you could check if they're in range and fuck them up

[bright fog]

Maybe also detect when they take damage probably

I think there's an event that gives the type of damage

Also I just remembered I forgot to update the formating for that one on the wiki

Yeaaa that one lol

I'll fix it

[mellow frigate]

how many pipe bombs have you throw ?

[quiet plank]

is there still a tag or flag to make a recipe hidden?

(in B42)

[vast pier]

wdym

[frank elbow]

I know this exchange is over, but fwiw: I agree that just having the same info on the wiki isn't all that useful & I think it'd make more sense to just link to albion's event doc on GitHub (perhaps too late, since there's already multiple event pages). If there's a worry of it disappearing, it can always be archived—it's not uncommon to see references on Wikipedia, for example, include a live link as well as an archive link

[bright fog]

omfg

[quiet plank]

cuz the other alternative would be to not have anything in outputs and have the onCreate put the easter egg in their inventory

[bright fog]

My point is that no one can modify Albion's guide

Same with every single guides

[frank elbow]

It is not a point that is true, but I understand that you're saying it's not as easy to do so

[bright fog]

Again and again and again and again and again, always people doing things on their side, yea it's github and what if you disappear or disagree with people, no cooperation, no communication

[frank elbow]

That's just my two cents anyway, not trying to put down the wiki. I think your work there will be helpful

I'm just talking about events in particular

[bright fog]

If we keep this argument, no pages on the modding Wiki makes sense to exist

Literally

[frank elbow]

Not necessarily. An events page that just explains what they are and has a list with links to further reosurces wouldn't be as duplicative

But I don't think there's really an issue with duplication anyhow

[bright fog]

It already links Albion's guide, the wiki already links external stuff

And no one can modify albion's stuff

NO ONE

[frank elbow]

I don't know why you keep saying that but okay

[bright fog]

always people doing things on their side, that's the number one enemy of modding documentation rn

The wiki, everyone can come and add to it, there is no ownership of stuff

I've started modding start of 2024, came into here trying to find resources, and I'm pretty sure more than a few new modders had the same experience of having to constantly ask for everything because there's never a centralized place for everything

[frank elbow]

Yeah wikis are great

[bright fog]

Or it always involves skimming through hundreds of links that were on the main Wiki modding page

Or stuff that are left everywhere, in idfk how many channels

At least 30 channels I know of that have pinned messages with important resources

Bcs no one wants to centralized shit

Let's count together how many pinned mesages alone in this single channel exist

Now do that x30

[frank elbow]

People can choose to contribute info where they want

🤷

[bright fog]

What's a good documentation if it's not easy to find

[bronze yoke]

this is a weak argument given that omar has himself contributed to both pzeventdoc and its data 😅

[frank elbow]

It's me, I'm no one

[bright fog]

Yeah, and like I said, how about people you disagree with

The wiki, no one can say your shit doesn't matter, you are forced into debate with others to know how the wiki should be

[frank elbow]

I didn't really intend or desire to add fire to an argument, just gave my two cents

This doesn't seem like a productive discussion at the moment

[tidal geode]

hello is there anything to follow on how to make clothing for pz

[bright fog]

Currently
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025955520

[bright fog]

The main problem rn is that I'd really love to have other modders put some work in documenting stuff on the wiki, bcs I'm pratically alone in it

[frank elbow]

I've seen you sharing your work & I'm sure it'll inspire others to contribute as well

[bright fog]

I'm not an expert in every fields rn, and while I'm learning a lot to try and document stuff, it will take years

[naive crescent]

If you just starting to build and consolidate all the information for proper documentation especially something as complicated as how to code a game engine it would be better to get it all in one spot first then sift through it all to stream line it.

Its rather common in game engine documentations to see duplicates of information when looking at things.

calling it a Wiki is not doing it justice when its honestly a manual

[bright fog]

The main problem is that there was never a community effort to even get a centralized documentation for modding

[bright fog]

Uh

Not really

I mean sure for some few bits

The goal is to document everything that exists for modding

And yea some stuff are literal guides currently, but the goal is to just explain every bits

What's available, document stuff that exists for modding

I feel like that fits more the definition of a wiki than a manual ?

For example IsoZombie, you can do a bunch of stuff on it
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/IsoZombie

I started listing everything that's possible

And there's probably other ways, listing all the different ways is good too

[frank elbow]

I think articles like this are a great example of where the wiki can shine

[bright fog]

Yea

[frank elbow]

Guides seem well-suited for it

[bright fog]

Bcs each modders can be expert in a specific field

And come and tell about cool things you can do for various Java objects in this case

But that will be the case for UI stuff too for example

Timed Actions too

That's lua stuff

Later down the road, animation stuff, what could thing can you do with AnimSets

To trigger specific chain of animations for example etc

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PersistentOutfitID

Another example

[frank elbow]

I realize after looking at that one that I didn't put the distinction in my mind into words earlier: to me, events feel more like "annotation"-type information—something that'd live in type annotations—whereas the above is more like details on what you can do with this. So, for example, a page about events used for timing (EveryX, OnTick, OnTickEvenPaused) & their differences feels more guide-like to me

[bright fog]

It'll be both, there will be guides yeah

We can't deny that

Bcs at the end of the day, people need a line to follow sometimes to get started, and guides that tell every steps are needed at some point

The wiki is still likely to change how things are ordered in Modding

Maybe guides should be put in their own categories

Also page names

Should we name those like that ?

Or more like this ?

Should we normalize it in a way ?

Lots of examples

[frank elbow]

Could always normalize it one way & have the others as redirects (How to make a clothing mod → redirect to "Making a clothing mod" or whatever)

[bright fog]

But a lot of these pages are also leftovers of before stuff

[winter bolt]

i prefer it like "Custom Clothing Modding"

[bright fog]

Hmm

[winter bolt]

i think they should start with the same word so theyre all grouped together on the page

[bright fog]

Wdym as redirects ?

[trim quartz]

Hey all, before I reinvent the wheel, is there any pre fab code to create a table in the UI, a bit like how the inventory pane works.

I've poked around the code for the inventoryPane and inventoryPage but it obviously has worlds more functionality than I need.

Just looking for a basic table system that I can add rows and columns too to show data

[bright fog]

Definitely

[frank elbow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect

Applies to mediawiki too

[bright fog]

Ik what a redirect is but I'm not sure what you mean here

Oooh wait

Ok I think I see what you mean

And that would be amazing

But currently the wiki doesn't have much systems like that

[frank elbow]

I believe it does?

Hold on, let me find an example

[bright fog]

Redirects are used for pages that were moved elsewhere

[bright fog]

It does, but doesn't uses it that way

[frank elbow]

They can be manually added too

[bright fog]

Yea, probably

But that depends on how the wiki should be handled

@sudden lichen might know more in detail about that

Or what can and can't be done

But that's also the reason the main Modding page exists, to easily link to existing guides

Tho it still needs a bit of cleanup imo

[frank elbow]

All you have to do is put in #REDIRECT and the page, I believe in double square* brackets

[bright fog]

Notably at the end, I need to go through the various resources and order them

[winter bolt]

i think its mainly just to make sure old links to the page arent broken

[bright fog]

Yea I said that exists, but it's not used the way you described it here

[frank elbow]

Redirects are pretty common on Wikipedia for linking similar terms, could be used similarly

[bright fog]

Oh I believe you lol, but yeah that'd have to be seen with Faala who's a wiki admin

Bcs currently I don't know a single example of it used to find more easily pages

But I agree it'd be great to have that

[frank elbow]

This discussion is a sudden #pzwiki_editing collab lol

[bright fog]

Yea

At the end of the day, we can and should work with the wiki team for the Modding wiki

And I've been working with them

To apply some standards, and proper organization

Today we've even renamed and reorganized some Lua events wiki pages/categories to clean it up a bit

I also made a summary of the changes on the wiki for December

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PZwiki:News#December_2024_summary

Was looking for it lol

[sly monolith]

I asked about this earlier but it seems the answer I got didn't solve my issue, so I have those recipes here that let you craft certain items, I was told that I shouldn't use spaces in the recipe names, then how am I supposed to separate the words without the ugly _s between them? I checked the base game recipes and they just have the whole recipe name in 1 word, so i guess it's separated somewhere else?
Another question, is it possible to have different icons for crafting the same item but with different texture choice? The recipe itself uses getTexture from a lua file to pick the correct texture choice, it works for the crafted item, but it doesn't affect the crafting recipes, is it possible to somehow affect that too?

[bright fog]

Translation files

Every recipes should link to a translation file

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Translations

didn't I rework that page a bit?

[sly monolith]

could you point me to the correct game files path so i could copy the file xd?

ooh ok found it on that wiki page thanks

[bright fog]

You probably don't want to do that lol, you're better off starting with a fresh file

[sudden lichen]

I'm out of the loop, you want to redirect some pages?

[sly monolith]

i mean idk what i'm doing, gotta open the file and see before i do anything heh

[sudden lichen]

Redirect in wiki are mostly for the users that search a different term

[bright fog]

Apparently what is done on Wikipedia, is that you can more easily find pages by doing that

[bright fog]

Yeah that's fair

[sudden lichen]

when it comes to categorization, you can use different DEFAULTSORT https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting

Other than that, yeah, pages can be renamed.

[sly monolith]

what about the other half of my question tho, any ideas? 🥺

[bright fog]

No that's not the idea lol

[sudden lichen]

oops, old link https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words (search for DEFAULTSORT)

[bright fog]

Like you have a "Custom Clothing Guide" and it could be found by searching "How to make custom clothings"

For example

And add many many other options I guess

Is what @frank elbow had as an idea I think if he can confirm

[sudden lichen]

I think I mentioned renaming the "How to" guides? But yeah, can set up redirects too

[bright fog]

But like I told him, currently the pz wiki doesn't do that

[ebon dagger]

TIL: There is a search on the wiki lol

[bright fog]

Or it doesn't use it that way

[sudden lichen]

😄

[bright fog]

Yea, and it won't find the pages lmao

[frank elbow]

This is essentially what I had in mind

[sudden lichen]

and can conveniently be accessed using / key

[bright fog]

If you search "How to make custom clothing", it just won't find the page name I mentioned

Unless there's a specific redirect

[ebon dagger]

The UX doesn't mesh with my brain, more than likely a me issue lol

[sudden lichen]

These are fine, yeah. Though keep in mind that modding is pretty much the only area where any kind of guides are present (there used to be gameplay guides, but they basically had been removed as outdated; Steam serves a better place for them)

[bright fog]

I'm sorry gonna read that last part

[coarse sinew]

Unfortunately there are no templates for this, but these tables are usually scrolling lists with separately rendered borders and headers. For an example of implementation see Player Stats (client\ISUI\PlayerStats\ISPlayerStatsUI.lua) and Item List Viewer (client\ISUI\AdminPanel\ISItemsListViewer.lua).

[bright fog]

You had already asked about that different icons thing but like before I just don't understand what you mean by it. Do you mean have variants of the crafted item ?

[sudden lichen]

Generally "How to" is not what the wiki search is for, more a search engine like Google type of thing 🤔

But yeah, the naming of "How to" guides is something of an old name being followed. Generally pages in PZwiki are encyclopedic-like, so you have pages such as "Items" or "Scripts". One of the pages I eventually got to rename was renaming that https://pzwiki.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Tiledefs_in_use_by_mods&redirect=no

[sly monolith]

yea i went to sleep after i asked that last time heh

i have 3 texture choices in the item, red black and white

[bright fog]

Is the wiki properly referenced in google searches actually ?

[sly monolith]

when i craft the item using each recipe, it has the correct in-game texture, and the correct inventory icon, but in the crafting menu they all have the same 1st texture choice

[bright fog]

Hmm

So like you'd like something that cycles through the various textures ?

In a way ?

So visually it animates with the different available icon textures ?

[sly monolith]

i'm bad at explaining stuff lol, so i have those 3 inventory icons for ankle holsters, i have recipes that let you craft each of those, but in the recipe window, they all use the same red texture, because that's the 1st texture choice in the XML

[oak hornet]

Ok I'm getting dumber than a wet cake by the minute, is there a way to implement the CraftRecipe_OnCreate Callabacks here? I Keep encountering error using the normal Events.[EventsName].Add([Func])

[bronze yoke]

you can set the recipe's icon with (i think) Icon =

these callbacks aren't events, they're just the signatures for when adding a function to a recipe

e.g. in my craftrecipe OnCreate = myFunction, myFunction should be a lua function that expects these arguments

if you have umbrella then these names are the ones you can use as a type e.g.```lua
---@type CraftRecipe_OnCreate
function myFunction(recipeData, character)
...
end

[bright fog]

Visually only

Or do you mean the craft result ?

[winter bolt]

they mean the icon that appears for the recipe in the menu

[bright fog]

Yea

[sly monolith]

the craft result is ok, i only mean the crafting window icon

[bright fog]

And that's what I've been saying lmao

Visually only

Not a question of result

Just have the crafting show there's different variants ?

So it could be like a cycle thing, animated gif showing every variant icons ?

[sly monolith]

no no no

[sly monolith]

this i think

i didnt think about even trying that heh, gonna see if it works

yea it does lol, that was simple xd

thank you very much !

[oak hornet]

wait what?

[winter bolt]

wait that actually works lol?

i just tried looking in the code and i thought it wasnt possible

[sly monolith]

yeah it does lol, i remember asking about that back in b41 like a year ago and i was told that it was too complicated to do or smh 😂

[bronze yoke]

yeah in b41 it was impossible

b41 always used the result item for the icon

[sly monolith]

oh really wow, nice, that's some QoL fixes haha 😄

[ebon dagger]

In case anyone ever uses the search to try and find the same info in this discord as I was working on yesterday.

Setting the "AmmoType" of a weapon and using setCondition(weapon:getCondition) to update the tool tip.

It works. But only once. Then, as Albion surmised, the tool tip is cached and cannot be set again until the game is loaded again.

I have chosen a third option. I am adding to the tooltip with an additional line noting the ammo type loaded by hooking into ISToolTipInv

[sly monolith]

one more question, where can i find the base game texture icons? are they bundled together in ProjectZomboid\media\texturepacks ?

[ebon dagger]

Also, if you swap the ammotype of a weapon to a custom ammo you have created, a gun must exist that fires that ammotype via script. Otherwise, Java has no idea how that ammo type is supposed to work.

[winter bolt]

some of the new items icons are loose in media/textures but most of them are in the packs

[sly monolith]

how can i access those files?

[winter bolt]

you have to install the zomboid modding tools from the tools section of your steam library and then open tilezed and use the pack viewer tool in the top bar

i have all of the item icons ripped already if you want me to send them

[sly monolith]

great thank you !!

oh yea that would be even better

[bronze yoke]

you can also grab them off the wiki

[sly monolith]

oh true lol, that's even easier

[oak hornet]

Wait hold up, what do this (vvv) line do ??
---@type CraftRecipe_OnCreate

[sly monolith]

thanks yall rock!

[ebon dagger]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PZwiki:Item_list

[winter bolt]

wiki wont have the filenames though i think?

[bronze yoke]

at runtime literally nothing, but if you have umbrella it tells your ide what types the parameters are (copied from the type definition, so the same information as on that page)

[sly monolith]

don't really need the names anyways, cuz i gotta recolor them for my custom colors anyway heh

[winter bolt]

theres a few other ui ones in here but it should have all the items

the other ones should all just be in media/textures

[sly monolith]

thanks!

[ebon dagger]

Yoink, thank you.

[slim swan]

How to get the weapon hit sound into mod data or get the script sound

[oak hornet]

Oh... So Basically it is like an extra documentation that write to umbrella output
ps: Instead of directly used in the game runtime?

[slim swan]

Try lots of way but always buged

[dull moss]

Is it possible to have scripts interacting with lua? Like lets say I want to have a mod with multiple levelup sound options, to overwrite it it's easy, you just throw

module Base
{    
    sound GainExperienceLevel
    {
        category = Player,
        clip
        {
            file = media/sound/sound_1.wav,
        }
    }
}

in scripts. But is it possible to check something in game code and play different sound based on lua logic? I can't find relevant either playSoundLocal or GainExperienceLevel in lua files in pz

[winter bolt]

umbrella cant always tell what types the variables you're using are meant to be, so adding those lines lets it do stuff like autosuggest function names and tell you if youre doing something wrong

[slim swan]

I want to like press a key then change the weapon damage and sound,make it happen in lua but the sound

[bronze yoke]

literally speaking though it is a comment so doesn't affect in any way how the code actually executes

[bright fog]

What tells you how many times your function is referenced ?

[dull moss]

vscode, no?

[bronze yoke]

that isn't something i had to set up or anything yeah

apparently it's code lens

[winter bolt]

you might be able to intercept the default levelup sound by adding a function to the LevelPerk event and then stopping the GainExperienceLevel sound from playing

and then you can run whatever code you need to do and play your own sound scripts

[sly monolith]

one more question, so in that recipes LUA i gotta just start the file with: RecipesEN { drop my Recipe_blablabla,'s close with } and i'm good?

[bright fog]

Kind of yes

[bronze yoke]

these are my global lua settings, umbrella automatically changes some other things that aren't as subjective

[sly monolith]

like it's not going to overwrite anything in the base files if i have a different name for that file right

[bright fog]

You need to have this naming

It's forced

That's why prefix are listed on the wiki that way

Because you NEED to use the right file naming

(actually do we have to? @bronze yoke)

[bronze yoke]

yes

[bright fog]

Alright good to know

[sly monolith]

i dont really get what you mean here, can i have my translation file named "Recipes_Evil_EN" ?

[bright fog]

No

You're forced in using Recipe_EN

And that won't cause problems

[sly monolith]

but isn't that going to overwrite the base game file with all the recipes?

[bright fog]

It will cause problems if you don't name it that way

[bronze yoke]

translation files aren't loaded through the virtual filesystem so they won't override each other

if you name your file differently it won't load at all

[bright fog]

Do script files override each other ?

[bronze yoke]

yes

[sly monolith]

oh ok so i just name it the same and only type in my translation names and that'll work fine?

[dull moss]

Arent events handled in java?

I don't see a definition for LevelPerk event anywhere in game files

[slim swan]

I did this before,but I still want to switch the sound to what I want or original one by press a key or something like this

[winter bolt]

Events.LevelPerk.Add(YourFunction)

[dull moss]

Yea except that is adding to event

not changing default behavior that happens when players levels up the skill which plays the sound

[winter bolt]

yeah its not possible to change it so you have to just stop the sound from playing and then replace it with your own

[bronze yoke]

what they mean is you can most likely just stop the already playing sound on that event

[oak hornet]

oh wait so practically the game never really call the said function, and it is just used to document the parameter?

[winter bolt]

player:getEmitter():stopSoundByName("GainExperienceLevel")
might work but for some reason stopSoundLocal() doesnt let you use a string

[bright fog]

That looks quite useful from a first glance at the result of changing to these settings

[dull moss]

I haven't found a single relevant hit on GainExperienceLevel or levelup in game files that's why I'm confused

[bright fog]

I never actually fucked with the settings of lua in vscode

[winter bolt]

its hardcoded in the java

[bright fog]

You can change the level up sound tho

[dull moss]

Yea I know it's possible

[bronze yoke]

you could also replace the sound script with one that doesn't actually have a clip so it doesn't play anything

and then just play whatever you want on the event

[winter bolt]

wait this is it lmao

[dull moss]

Oh that might actually work

AHAHHAAH

[winter bolt]

ive even done that before and didnt even think of it 💀

[slim swan]

But how to replace item’s script sound like hit sound name in lua

[bright fog]

Existing items ?

DoParam

[silent zealot]

To clarify: DoParam is like editing the script file, if you want to change one specific instance of an item while playing you need to get the item as a variable and use whatever methods it has to change it.

Since I saw mention of press a key/change damage and sound in the chat.

[vast pier]

Here's an example of me simultaneously editing existing data and adding on new params to the pipe bomb.

if item then
    item:Load(item:getName(), 
    [[{

        MaxRange = 10,
        ExplosionPower = 0,
        MaxDamage = 60,
        ExtraDamage = 150,
        AttachmentType = Hammer,
        
    }]])
end```

[trim quartz]

awesome thanks

[silent zealot]

Wtf syntax is [[{}]]

Crazy lua

[bronze yoke]

[[ ]] is multiline string

[dull moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ied-better-call-saul-bomb-your-honor-gif-24668812

[vast pier]

It's originally a script someone here helped me with to edit fluid values on items without overwriting the item.
I messed around with it and is now my go to for editing items that I don't wanna overwrite

It was albion actually

I think

[silent zealot]

So same as DoParam() but different syntax for changing multiple parameters at once?

[vast pier]

Edits existing parameters, and can also add in entirely new ones

[vast pier]

ExtraDamage and AttachmentType aren't existing params on the pipe bomb

[bronze yoke]

DoParam("Key = Value") is far more common for editing/adding one parameter, but it wouldn't work for a fluid container since that's a component

[vast pier]

"Big Cunt Belle is typing"

💀

God mode was not used during this, I fr thought I was about to have to start the scenario over because of that trip. To demonstrate a use case for buffed pipe bombs

[silent zealot]

The old "throw super bomb in front of you and run past it trusting a cheap interior door to protect you" strategy 😂

[vast pier]

I mean a pipe bomb is just a shrapnel bomb, a door would probably protect you decently

Based off how I threw it, it looks like it would have been the wall protecting me anyway

[bright fog]

Before it would kill you through the door ?

I never use these

[vast pier]

Before, it would do like zero damage and set everything on fire 💕

[silent zealot]

That actually does make pipe bombs useful

More like a grenade

[vast pier]

I mean yeah, the US military has an official munitions guide for making pipe bombs because they're effectively just frag grenades

[silent zealot]

Plus carrying them on your belt

[bright fog]

Oooh I see

[vast pier]

I think the military also has an official guide for a zombie like scenario

[bright fog]

That shrapnel bomb might interest us @tranquil kindle @past radish

[silent zealot]

They also consider frag grenades "defensive weapons" because you should never use them while running forward, that's what concussion grenades are for.

[vast pier]

currently the issue is I don't feel like the bomb does enough damage to players, it just kinda scratches you up a bit

[silent zealot]

And "home defense frag grenades" sounds very Kentucky

[silent zealot]

Sandbox option for damage taken by player? Let people adjust to taste, easier than trying to figure out the proper value for everyone to use

[vast pier]

idk how to make it effect players more tho, as it doesn't have a separate damage value

[vast pier]

This is for a trait/profession buffing mod I'm making.
Though I could single out the engineer changes specifically in the future.

It's mainly targetting the engineer at the moment, because the bombs SUCK at doing anything other than causing a fire

I also want to make it so the bombs can be learned from a military magazine

[bright fog]

We're working on The Last of Us mods, and for nail bombs that'd be very useful

[vast pier]

I have the damage set high enough to just instakill zombies, but you could set it lower and just deal a lot of damage to em

Also I'm definitely getting put on a watch list due to how much I've been googling about IEDs

👍 👍

[bright fog]

lol

[bright fog]

Yeah sounds good

I think we might interested in that in the future

[inner seal]

hey, does anyone know where do i found the sound files for weapons swing sound effects ?

[vast pier]

Maybe they're used to it though, they saw me googling a bunch about making guns at home and improvised firearms, and how matchlocks/flintlocks/wheellocks work

[tranquil kindle]

I had it in my first ever mod.

[bright fog]

Nice

[bright fog]

That's probably in the .bank files

[vast pier]

well I posted it a bit ago, but this is what is changed about the pipe bomb to have the effect shown in the video

if item then
    item:Load(item:getName(), 
    [[{

        MaxRange = 10,
        ExplosionPower = 0,
        MaxDamage = 60,
        ExtraDamage = 150,
        AttachmentType = Hammer,
        
    }]])
end```

You could just copy the pipe bomb from items_traps and then change it as seen above

Setting explosion power to 0 makes it no longer catch stuff on fire, I'm not actually sure if max damage does anything itself for explosives.
And ExtraDamage is what gives it actual damage?

I'm not entirely sure myself, I just know it works

Like an ancient viking knowing that crushing chicken bones into their iron made it stronger.
But not actually knowing why

(The carbon from the chicken bones would smelt into the iron, creating rudimentary steel)

They thought it was the chicken's souls making the iron stronger

[hollow rock]

Hi I'm new to PZ modding

I am currently working on a mod that messes with zombie behavior

specifically their sight

would anyone know how to config zed characteristics through mod tools?

[bright fog]

In what way ?

[hollow rock]

Blind

Mainly

I've been trying to run a preset where zombies are superhuman yet blind as bats

[bright fog]

I'm planning on doing that with my clickers

[hollow rock]

But neither the base game nor the steam workshop supports this to my liking

[hollow rock]

Really?