mod_development

[digital osprey]

could someone point me in the correct direction? i want to add full MP support to my mods but there is little in terms of resources. My auto oven one seems to work fine with the exception that turning on and off the oven doesnt sync (shows on for one player, off for another) what would be the steps i need to take?

do i just getCurrentPlayer instead of getPlayer and run the same function for all in game, or is there more to it

[fast galleon]

@digital osprey
This guide will teach you a way to solve almost any MP issue.

[gilded hawk]

Poltergeist do you have any suggestion regarding this?

[digital osprey]

thank u!

[fast galleon]

Not sure that there is something like that. Possibly you can retrieve the cell population that appears in the debug UI or check the number of loaded zombies.

[gilded hawk]

You mean, this debug UI?

[drowsy delta]

how do i modifiy degration speeds on clothing n stuff in a script?

[drifting ore]

does someone have like a hand icon

[chrome egret]

Any easily-recognized problem (hopefully with an equally easy solution) that would cause my new generator PNG to be added to Tilezed with two GIDs?

And what would be a feasible way to check for the ### value used by tilesets, as referenced in the TIS thread "Customer texture packs and tile definitions"?

Obviously it's beyond a human to look at every Steam Workshop mod for PZ and make sure they're not conflicting

[hot void]

is there a way to make a piece of clothing a weapon

[drowsy delta]

you might be able to do it with crafting

just a thought not completely sure tho

[digital osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tZujOPnDw this teaches how to make a consumable but the process is similar

[mellow frigate]

akaik weapons must be equipped in hands. but the attack can be hooked. https://github.com/demiurgeQuantified/PZEventDoc/blob/develop/docs/Events.md#hook

[thick karma]

Halp. Should I use AI art, just show the code, or wait for a classic Spiffo bg from Chuck?

[desert kelp]

Hi Team, Just hoping to check. Is OnPlayerUpdate just as taxing to the server as EveryTenMinutes?

[opal badger]

is there a wiki for all the PZ lua functions?

[mellow frigate]

lua code is readable from your installation folder

[mellow frigate]

it depends on game speed. in most cases OnPlayerUpdate frequency is higher.

[robust locust]

Is there a difference between StaticModel and WorldStaticModel?

[inner wedge]

Thank you so much, this is exactly what I was looking to do. Where in the file structure would I put this chunk of code?

[nova socket]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3171815531

No more guessing about where safehouse starts or ends for players.

That was annoying me for a while from both sides

[mystic vessel]

So, does anyone know a possible answer?

I made a test tile, put the pack file in the folder

"texturepacks"

I opened the mod config and put

"pack="

And in the tile editor it appears, but inside the game for me to put it down, it doesn't

What am I doing wrong?

And typing the name "test" doesn't appear either

[nova socket]

You need to add both pak and tiledefinitions to your mod and mod.info has to describe them.

[mystic vessel]

Sorry did not understand

Do I have to create tile definitions and place them both in the folder and in the file?

and what would be the "pak"?

[nova socket]

So I guess this is your first time creating tiles?

[mystic vessel]

Yep

[nova socket]

1. mod.info has to describe both your .pak and .tiles files like that

pack=tradertiles
tiledef=tradertiles 1337

2. Your .pack file is where your textures are and should be located in media/texturepacks folder of your mod
3. Your .tiles is the file that describes the purpose of those textures in-game and should be located in a media folder of your mod.

@mystic vessel ^ most compat explanation

[mystic vessel]

and after that i restart my game and should be available right?

well didn't work

[thick karma]

Well, it exists. @bronze yoke
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3171829037

[mystic vessel]

maybe i made something wrong with the "Pack" file? i think?

[thick karma]

Feel free to repurpose our code if you want to do your own main volume / options page, albion.

[mystic vessel]

I followed the tutorial of

daddy dirkie

It's probably old

[opal badger]

wherabouts in the game files do I find that?

[mellow frigate]

Zomboid\media\lua

have a look at the pz modding wiki for all discovery questions. https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

[opal badger]

very very white

my eyes hurt looking at the wiki lol

Im looking through and cant seem to find any functions for shooting, any idea where those are?

[nova socket]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_Events

There is mouse down and weapon swing

Not sure how to achieve firearm shot event but I guess you can combine mouse down with it or sum

[mystic vessel]

I did what you told me, but unfortunately it didn't work

[nova socket]

Well something you do isn't right, because this is how my Immersive Shops work currently.

Check manuals about how TileZed works

[mystic vessel]

where can i find it?

[mystic vessel]

I figured it out, thanks in advance for your help.
She was super fundamental for me to progress :)The problem is that I needed to create a new save to load the textures.
(unless you can recharge the lua)

[nova socket]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Adding_new_tiles

This page helped me to get through everything I needed

[bronze yoke]

very cool! i love seeing tools like this

[nova socket]

@mystic vessel and that too

Thats cheatsheet for properties, PSD for tiles and blender template for creating sprites from 3D models

[mystic vessel]

And another question, can I only reload the textures by closing and opening the game?

[nova socket]

yes unfortunately

[mystic vessel]

This is sad ;/

[nova socket]

Well actually makes sense, blobs always get flock'ed in most engines

[mystic vessel]

The important

But the problem was solved just by creating a new save and installing the mod

[nova socket]

new save is not required, you need to enable mod and reload the game to make game load fresh copy of assets from blobs

[mystic vessel]

The only sad part is that my Zomboid doesn't start quickly

[nova socket]

Remove unneccessary mods for debugging

There is no need to run game with 100+ mods like you do for gameplay while you code the mod, you need to only do it after to see any possible conflicts

[mystic vessel]

In fact, taking advantage
What are the 2x and 1x textures for?

[nova socket]

Basically what it says. Different quality of textures.

[thick karma]

Thanks! I thought about decorating require itself, but decided against it because I didn't want to accidentally grab samename mod files instead of local vanilla modules in the event of overlap. Still might offer that in an update as an optional import mode. But yeah, hopefully it leads to useful things.

[nova socket]

Game can run potato mode and switch to 1x textures instead of 2x

[bronze yoke]

DOME is a sick as hell name btw

i wouldn't mess with require, i've played around with stuff like that a bit but modifying global state is a bad idea in a heavily modded game like this

normally i'd be worried about adding any overhead at all to global functions but require isn't really performance sensitive

you can sort of locally inject overwritten 'globals' using the fenv stuff but it's kind of overcomplicated and i hear runs badly

[thick karma]

Word, I hadn't experimented at all, just mused. But thanks for the words of warning.

[bronze yoke]

i wrote an overwrite for pairs() that would allow it to iterate over arraylists but found it not worthwhile to add any overhead to the global function, and if people have to manually import it with an injector function they might as well just call apairs or something instead

[thick karma]

Completely fair. I could also simplify use with a global function but wasn't sure what people would prefer, so I decided to keep stuff local.

wrequire har har

[bronze yoke]

please keep everything in a module whenever possible 🙏

[thick karma]

Yeah all my latest mods are doing that now. No globals in TMJ

Well glad my decisions were at least acceptable lol

Probably leave it as is indefinitely

[bronze yoke]

it seems good how it is to me

[outer crypt]

When you pick up a sprite item like furniture it results in this log entry "pickup test" does anyone know where this is coming from? Be looking through the actions etc but do not see any furniture pickup actions... I found the place commands in lua server world objects

[mellow frigate]

it prevents overriding from outside though

[bronze yoke]

what do you mean?

[mellow frigate]

if everything is local to a module, you cannot override it from "another mod" without overriding the whole module.

[bronze yoke]

you can override parts of modules just like anything else

local MyModule = require("PathToTheModule")

local old_foo = MyModule.foo
MyModule.foo = function()
    print("foo overwritten!") -- will be printed whenever the function is called, whether it's by this mod, another mod, or the original mod
    old_foo()
end

[frozen frigate]

what about java-implemented modules, is that possible?

[mellow frigate]

your exemple has something like ? ```lua
--PathToTheModule.lua
local function foo()
end

[bronze yoke]

java methods can't be changed but the reference lua keeps to them can be - in effect, you can change a java method but only when it's being called from the lua side, java side calls won't be affected

[frozen frigate]

oh right, sorry that's what I meant

so like calling Picker from Lua and overriding it to another Picker

[bronze yoke]

if it's a true local you can't overwrite it but that's just because it's local, not because it's a module

[frozen frigate]

I somehow managed to make a more accurate picker (in this case, for mouse over tooltips) in Lua than the basegame apparently, even though it took me over a week to figure out the math and stuff lol

[bronze yoke]

--PathToTheModule.lua
local MyModule = {}

-- part of the module, can be accessed by other files by requiring this one
MyModule.foo = function() end

-- not part of the module, can't be accessed by other files whatsoever
local function foo() end

return MyModule

[mellow frigate]

thanx

[true crown]

Is there any way to guarantee certain clothes on a zombie outfit? I just got started learning how to add custom outfits for zombies and it is half-is working. The shirt is popping up as expected but it puts random pants on the zombie instead of the custom one. I already checked my code multiple times and everything seems to be correct :/

For the record: Shoes are also fully ignored and replaced by generic shoes for some reason

[near hull]

Is this to add new moodles (because I understand so) or to modify the form of the current ones (UI)? My idea is to modify the interface in the style of Plain Moodles/Moodles Quarters and Flat UI Revamp. This is the first time I'm trying to do this, answers to those questions would help me a lot. Thank you

[mellow frigate]

this is to create new moodles. as it was part of your initial question.

[near hull]

It works for me, at least in part. Thank you very much for the reply

[bright fog]

There's a line to have no pants or no shirts

[true crown]

Omg...

[bright fog]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<outfitManager>
    <m_FemaleOutfits>
        <m_Name>Bloater</m_Name>
        <m_Guid>06c758ce-eb0e-4905-9ede-5c84e5c45332</m_Guid>
        <m_Top>false</m_Top>
        <m_Pants>false</m_Pants>
        <m_AllowPantsHue>false</m_AllowPantsHue>
        <m_AllowTopTint>false</m_AllowTopTint>
        <m_AllowTShirtDecal>false</m_AllowTShirtDecal>
        <m_items>
            <itemGUID>6b9a55dd-a875-46d9-8205-b3454358b9d5</itemGUID>
        </m_items>
    </m_FemaleOutfits>
    <m_MaleOutfits>
        <m_Name>Bloater</m_Name>
        <m_Guid>06c758ce-eb0e-4905-9ede-5c84e5c45332</m_Guid>
        <m_Top>false</m_Top>
        <m_Pants>false</m_Pants>
        <m_AllowPantsHue>false</m_AllowPantsHue>
        <m_AllowTopTint>false</m_AllowTopTint>
        <m_AllowTShirtDecal>false</m_AllowTShirtDecal>
        <m_items>
            <itemGUID>6b9a55dd-a875-46d9-8205-b3454358b9d5</itemGUID>
        </m_items>
    </m_MaleOutfits>
</outfitManager>

[true crown]

That is probably it

[bright fog]

Example of clothing I have

[true crown]

Ok that is a lot of info I had no idea about, thanks

I'll see if I can get it to work this way

[bright fog]

Tho in my case it just adds a single clothing which is a complete custom model of a zombie

idk if it will apply to what you want, go try it

[barren goblet]

I'm trying to make a standalone region, but I wonder if there is a way to remove the default map items from the loot tables somehow?
(Solved btw. - turned out I was very close to the actual solution but did just some small mistake all along)

[drowsy delta]

how do I get a BloodBodyPartType so I can setBlood of a clothing Item? like is there a way to just type it out instead of having to use :getBloodBodyTypes() or whatever that function is called?

[barren goblet]

All the stuff I find is about adding additional items to the loot tables - but in my case I'd rather want to remove entries or replace them.

[true crown]

I worked with it and ended up causing the pants to disappear entirely. Then I just copied over an outfit from Authentic Z to double check and realized that something is definitely messed up because even in my own mod it refuses to work

Wait I might have figured it out

Nvm

[slow granite]

Sleepy_Butterfly#1493 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[nimble yarrow]

You could use getCoveredParts() to get an arrayList that works for BloodBodyPartTypes.
If you use getCoveredParts() on a pair of pants, you'll get Groin, UpperLeg_L, UpperLeg_R, LowerLeg_L, LowerLeg_R, then you can iterate through that arrayList (or specify the index) for the addBlood command

local coveredParts = thisClothingItem:getCoveredParts()
IsoGameCharacter:addBlood(coveredParts:get(i), false, false, false)

[stone garden]

does anyone know where to start learning modding

[true crown]

I solved it!

Just gonna write it down here in case someone else ends up having the same problem and is a bloody amateur like me:

When creating outfits for zombies, make sure that every piece of clothing, etc. is referenced in your own mods' fileGuidTable.xml, regardless of whether or not the items are from your own mod, vanilla, or from another mod. All have to be referenced in there in order to end up on the outfit

[austere sequoia]

check the wiki, it has a pretty good section for modding, and the different kinds of modding as well

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

[austere sequoia]

plus it helps IMMENSELY when you look at other mods, that do stuff similar to the stuff you want to do. I cant understate how much this will help you getting started

Dude, I gave you two superb starting points for learning how to mod PZ, I am not sure how else I could have answered your question. I even went out of my way to get you a link. That is literally the best advice I could give you. I dont know how this could possibly result in such a rant about the community supposedly being bad

[bronze yoke]

what kind of label? you should be able to just change its text whenever that action completes, though finding the label might be difficult

[austere sequoia]

How can I make Icons change their color depending on the color of the item? Like T-Shirts and other clothing does? I cant find any hint on this in the gamefiles

Dude, I already told you where you can find out how to mod the game. There is nothing more anyone here could do for you, unless you ask modding specific questions

[robust locust]

errr.... does anyone know why this screen popped up on pz?

it appeared when I disassembled my item

is it a "major error" screen?

[cosmic ermine]

It's a script debugger, it shows up sometimes when there's an error with a code, most often with mods. You can close that by clicking on the play button above or F11.

[robust locust]

oh thanks... i didnt realise it could be closed 😄

[cosmic ermine]

Sometimes you'll have to click the 'Break On Error' box if the error is persistent.

[robust locust]

wondered what that was...

[wise warren]

WHO'S BEING BULLIED HMMMMMMMM

[stable plover]

yea

[wise warren]

You're all under arrest

[stable plover]

lets bully uppy now

[wise warren]

Including you Goose

You sunbish

[stable plover]

you first frickin nerd

[wise warren]

Oooooooo

[plain crest]

okay i'm glad i'm not the only one who does this--i felt really bad when i first started and was worried i would be "plagiarizing" someone else's mod or something but sometimes i'm just like dang, what's their file structure or how did they write this code out..? good to know it's not just me

[winter bolt]

im not sure if other types of items support it but i think clothing items automatically change the icon colour based on the clothing colour. ive seen a few items like the poncho also set the colour of the icon manually in the item script

[austere sequoia]

I use it for clothing items. When my code has errors and the items are corrupted, they funnily enough have colored icons (even though in random colors), but for some reason it does not work when everything is fixed

[fast galleon]

3 things wrong here

• claiming this as your idea
• does not support shared folder
• does not support classes with same name

[open drum]

hey boys

what will be a best approach in trying to check if a certain UI is open

so i can prevent for it opening repeatedly?

I tried setting a name to an UI by using setUIName("string")

and it didn't help.

has anyone done this before please give me advice

[zinc pilot]

are you setting an instance for that UI? For example:

    local o = ISPanel:new(x, y, width, height)
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    
    CustomPanel.instance = o
    return o
 end

If so, you can check if CustomPanel.instance exists and\or isVisible.

[open drum]

actually no i am not

[zinc pilot]

if you save it to an instance variable then you can get it from a static function

and then you can perform the check to see if it's open\exists from there

[open drum]

i see, but isn't what i have also saving all things in a table?

is there a way to check if the table exist ?

[zinc pilot]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean

[open drum]

like at line 85

i create an empty table

and save new() into it so it's all packed into a table

as an "instance" mimick

by returning the "o" table

[zinc pilot]

Ok, I think I understand what you mean. You're not really "saving" it to the o table, since it's local. Your only reference to that is gonna be the returned value in your case

you'd need something like the instance I told you about to have a reference

[open drum]

oh i see

i understand

thanks ill try that

[sour island]

Looking for a group of testers to help testing some of my mods. 👼

[robust locust]

Hey peeps, what ya think of my guitar on wall mod im working on? only a couple of days in, so it looks rough. long way to go still

[bright fog]

That's pretty good hey

It might not be perfect but that's already pretty good

[open drum]

which mod do u need test with

[cosmic ermine]

I love testing and debugging even though it can be annoying sometimes.

[muted garnet]

Is there a way to set 2 types in item`s script, like drainable and weapon?

[bright fog]

No

But you can make a lua function that swaps the item between 2

[fast galleon]

I know chuck has a mod that converts most items to weapon type for this purpose.

I made a mod that converted buckets to different types for different uses.

It would be a nice feature for the future, like tags were a nice addition.

[muted garnet]

hmm, thanks at tips

[plain crest]

Does anyone have any tips for formatting the steam workshop page?

[true crown]

Quick question: So I figured out how to get zombie outfits working properly, but I'm wondering around the probability that I can set for clothes. Does 1.0 equal 100% or 1%?

[plain crest]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3172171349&searchtext=

Screaming crying throwing up we're public y'all AAAAAA

If anyone has feedback for my description I'd appreciate it

[austere sequoia]

If I am not totally mistaken, 1 should equal 1 % chance - at least in the LUAs this seems to be true

[austere sequoia]

Jesus, this Icon Art is beyond beautiful, have you done this yourself? Otherwise I feel like you are going a bit on the overkill side of things with your text - you add three hairstyles with textures (that I like, great work here!) and for that rather small amount of content you have written a book on steam, including chapters containing political education 😄 maybe a bit over the top for a PZ mod, imo. But its yours, so do whatever you feel like with it 🙂

[small topaz]

Looks cool! Do you already have an idea about how to fix the clipping issues?

[plain crest]

BAHAHA i'm known for being extra so thank you. i made the image with canva using their free assets--may update it to something more hand-made in the future, but i wanted it out of my hands.

[plain crest]

I do! Tbh most of the current bugs are quick fixes, I'm just too tired to bother and I get publishing paralysis so my brain was like "DO IT NOW BEFORE YOU DON'T DO IT"

[austere sequoia]

Since I just did a mod around hair.... and all my hair is clipping through hats... How do you fix clipping? I deemed it impossible

[plain crest]

Depending on the hat, you just need to keep testing it (you can have the game open while you update the model/export it straight from blender into your mod folder) and warping/moving the hair around until you get it to fit the hat. You may even need to "cut" part of the model off or flatten it reeeeaaaally close to the body

[austere sequoia]

How do you do this with your afros? I mean, if you make them match, lets say, a cowboy hat, there is not much afro left

[plain crest]

for those, some styles will have to be bald. like, a hood, it's just gonna be bald most likely, or just a small model of the bangs showing.

did you peek at spongie's hair guide? they do a much better job of explaining it than i do

[austere sequoia]

have not heard of this one yet. you mean the mod on steam?

[plain crest]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2721464487

Nope, a guide! Helped me most of the way through my experience.

[austere sequoia]

Thank you, I will have a look 😄 Maybe I can do some fixing without breaking everything, lol

[plain crest]

Im sure you can! Youve got this 🙏🏽

[urban ravine]

could anyone tell me how to upload my clothing mod? i cant seem to figure it out.

[plain crest]

is it in the Workshop folder? From there, you click on "mods", then "create or update"...and go from there!

[austere sequoia]

Oh jesus... "New Hairstyles for each Hatmodel" translates into thousands of extra itemfiles for me, lol xD I guess this will take some time

[urban ravine]

yeah, it had certain recuirements that i noticed other mods didnt meet, so i was confused, i assumed it was just for map mods.

[plain crest]

you could also use the fluffy hair mod! it describes in the guide what that means

[austere sequoia]

Did you upload it from ingame?

[plain crest]

wym? call mods go in the workshop folder and stuff

[urban ravine]

here, let me get a pic of what i mean

[austere sequoia]

Thing is, I use Hairstyles as items (wigs, so they can be put on mannequins). That means each model and texture combination needs a separate itemfile. quadrupling the number of models would get me up to close to 3k itemfiles right now, and I am only at 28 hairstyles xD

[urban ravine]

this power armor mod doeesnt have this structure, and my mods structure is the same layout as the power armors.

[plain crest]

ohhhhhhh you made THAT mod! i see, i see...

[plain crest]

i guarantee it does, you just don't see the upper folders

[austere sequoia]

Still very much a work in progress, but already fully functional 😄

[plain crest]

go into the workshop folder and copy the structure shown in the mod template

[urban ravine]

weird?

[austere sequoia]

you need a specific folderstructure for workshop

[urban ravine]

but ill give it a shot

[plain crest]

hey you've already got me beat--mine isnt even without bugs yet

[austere sequoia]

Look at users/zomboid/workshop/ModTemplate. This is how your mod has to be structured. Add folders in users/zomboid/workshop following the logic: Yourmodname/contents/mods/Yourmodfolder/media/....

[plain crest]

ye you've got this! you should just need to drop your mod a couple folders deeper--[Mod Name] > [Contents] and a 256x256 preview image > [mods] > [Mod Name] (MAKE SURE ITS THE SAME!), a 500 x 500 image named poster, and a txt file called mod.ini > [media] > ...

anything in brackets needs to be a folder

[austere sequoia]

256 x256 should be right

or not?

[plain crest]

you're so right it's lie 2 am here

so tired LOL

[true crown]

Alright, thanks 🙂

[austere sequoia]

No problem mate, just got me confused 😄 still new to this as well

[urban ravine]

i got it working, i really appreiciate you guys helping, modding this game is very different than what im used to

[plain crest]

Same! I'm also new to this--glad we can all help each other <3

[urban ravine]

<3

[austere sequoia]

Thats why we are here ^^

[urban ravine]

Now the real test is to see if it actually works

[plain crest]

bahaha legit half the battle is getting the mod up in the first place

[urban ravine]

honestly kinda suprised there arnt more mod templates?

[plain crest]

tbh there's such a variety of mods out there--i highly recommend doing what you did and just looking for a mod that does something similar to what you want, then following their structure, or asking for help

[austere sequoia]

you can always download any mod from workshop that does something similar as you want to achieve to have some kind of template

[plain crest]

BAHAHA JINX

[austere sequoia]

lol xD

[urban ravine]

well thats a good sign

[plain crest]

Like, I was thinking "what if I want to do custom textures in the future?" took a look at Yaki's, figured out how they do it...now, if I wanted to, I could do that.

But I would've had 0 clue without seeing how they did it.

[austere sequoia]

Thats exactly how I learned how to add tiles

[urban ravine]

yeah no, i tried making one from scratch from the tutorial the devs reccomend and HOLY, it goes from 0 to 100 real quick

[plain crest]

It really really does. Give yourself time and kindness while you learn! The learning curve is def steep...

But you can do it!

[urban ravine]

honestly, it really helps having some experiance modding other games tho

lets me weight paint models and the like better

[austere sequoia]

I still dont really feel like touching blender. Way to many buttons I have no clue about

[urban ravine]

true, but its needed for armor sadly

[plain crest]

oh man...yeah, i went into it with 0 knowledge and 0 wllingness to watch videos (which i ended up having to do anyway LOL)

[urban ravine]

i just powered through blender learning most of it myself

[plain crest]

same LOL i just didnt want to do the like

"learn how to make a fish!" tutorials LOL

like lemme just DIVE IN...

[austere sequoia]

I stick with Gimp. 2D is already enough dimensions for me 😄

[urban ravine]

ah i use paint.net, my prefered image editor

dont get it confused with paint tho

btw, is their a way to cheat in materials so i can craft my stuff?

[austere sequoia]

-debug mode, you get a menu with all items. (add -debug in steam start options)

[urban ravine]

sick, thanks

[plain crest]

you can also use admin tools/the item menu

[small topaz]

Afaik, having different icons for one and the same item type is not possible via modding (and not supported by vanilla code).

[plain crest]

It def is--If you pick up a red t-shirt, the t-shirt is red...I forget how you do it though.

[austere sequoia]

So I would have to write LUA? Now thats a whole new dimension...

[plain crest]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3025955520|Workshop
Have you seen this guide?

[austere sequoia]

yes, this one helped me getting started

[small topaz]

This specific thing you want is not even possible by lua coding...

[plain crest]

I wonder if ElictraV knows--it looks like their mod does what you want

#modeling message

Do you mean how the pink shoes have a pink icon?

[austere sequoia]

That is good to know, thank you! The easiest way would probably anyway be just creating Icons for each item

[austere sequoia]

yes, they also made separate Icons, they just link them in a special way

[small topaz]

only way to realize this is to define new item types in your script and give them their icons there, for example and item red tshirt with red icon, an item blue tshirt with blue icon and so on. One for each color

[urban ravine]

finally, a starwars mod

[austere sequoia]

I will think about this, thank you

[austere sequoia]

seems to be working

[urban ravine]

i'd say

just need to tweak it a bit

https://tenor.com/view/youve-been-very-helpful-terry-ray-ramano-the-big-sick-thanks-for-your-help-gif-18110423

[small topaz]

do they have those shoes in all colors (ie the full vanilla color set) and an icon for each one?

[austere sequoia]

"Beam me up Scotty!" - Gandalf

[urban ravine]

"Leviosaaaa" Scott Pilgram

[plain crest]

off the top of my head i'm not sure. i wanna say yes..? check ellie's clothing mod on the workshop

[austere sequoia]

nope, specific colors with specific icons. all kind of pinkish

[plain crest]

ellie's shoes that are currently available in the mod are avaiable in any color i think i know

(idk why i say i think when like.....i know they are)

[austere sequoia]

I will have a look 🙂

[urban ravine]

but just out of curiosity, how would i let my characters body/clothing appear under the suit?

[small topaz]

kk. even know this mod. they did it probably as I said, just a seperate item types for each color. (in this case, no lua coding required ofc...)

[urban ravine]

id imagine its with the "masks" but i have no clue what color the should be

[plain crest]

maybe check out how spongie's open jackets does it..?

[urban ravine]

forgot that mod exitsed, lemmie download it rq

[plain crest]

lmao i love it, it's one of those "you don't realize you have it until you don't" kinda mods

spongie is around this server too, you could ask them what they did

[plain crest]

i think this is just for applying textures to models

[small topaz]

have you tried to just delete all those masks?

[urban ravine]

i have not, couldnt hurt

[small topaz]

just delete it from the xml file.

[urban ravine]

yeah, nothing, but its whatever i guess

[small topaz]

doesn't work for you?

[urban ravine]

nope

[small topaz]

that's strange. in general, the game will render everything which is under your clothing by default if you don't use masks. only the parts which are covered by your actual 3d model should be hidden. so at least the nude character texture should be shown then

[plain crest]

try reloading just in case..?

[small topaz]

good idea. and maybe restart game

[urban ravine]

i'll restart again then

[small topaz]

btw what body location are you using for your suit?

[plain crest]

USUALLY you can just update textures and models straight into the game but i have noticed sometimes she gets...goofy.

so give 'er a restart LOL

[small topaz]

maybe there are problems when you do this with xmls. but not sure....

[plain crest]

tbh i'm not sure. sometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't. i always just do a full restart just to be sure. sometimes i have an issue, restart, and it goes away, so...

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[urban ravine]

FullSuit

[austere sequoia]

FullSuit Removes you clothes beyond, IIRC

[urban ravine]

even your skin?

hell of a suit

[small topaz]

would wonder if it does that...

[urban ravine]

what could i change it to and have it still be one peice for the body?

i mean, worse comes to worse, i can give teh model an under suit

[austere sequoia]

Try something different. I picked Nose, not many problems with that

[plain crest]

belly button ring/whatever slot that takes would be a good one

since you can't see the belly button ring anyway with the full suit on

[austere sequoia]

thats even better than Nose, did not know this

[urban ravine]

is the slot just bellybuttonring?

or does it have a different name?

[plain crest]

i have no clue unfortunately

😭

[urban ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[plain crest]

it looks like it's BellyButton

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Clothing

[urban ravine]

time to boot up the game and give her a go

[small topaz]

or a make a new body location... but still wondering whether fullsuit automatically hides the vanilla character skin. that's usually not what bodylocations do.

[urban ravine]

yeah, cause i can let it get holes

[plain crest]

Looking at the clothing thing on the wiki--could you add the suffix TINT to the ID? i wonder if that would do the thing matching up the icon with the color...

[urban ravine]

i lowkey wana make those zombie stormtroopers nw

wait

do i have to update the mod page everytime i change somethign to test?

[austere sequoia]

I did this, to no avail. I could add randomtints to my wigs, that also works on Icons then. But then of course the wig color is random - and a blonde wig should be blonde, not pink xD

[plain crest]

nope! if it's in the workshop folder, that's the verson your computer loads

update it when you're ready for everyone else to have that version

[austere sequoia]

I was somewhat afraid you ask this xD dont work in the workshop folder, work in the mod folder

[urban ravine]

D:

[plain crest]

opposite--work in the workshop folder, update when ready

mod folder is the copy that is CURRENTLY uploaded to the workshop

[austere sequoia]

thats what I did with my first mod as well, like 18 times in three hours xD

[austere sequoia]

It updates from the workshopfolder for me? 😮 I will give this a try, I am working in user/zomboid/mods, what works just as fine, and only copy over to workshop when I am done/updating. Gives me two copies of my mod, so a lifeline if my python code messes something up badly xD

[plain crest]

if you work in the workshop folder, nothing updates until you click "update" in the game menu

BACK UP YOUR FILES OFC BUT

you can work in the workshop folder if you're feeling risky

[austere sequoia]

So I must have misunderstood you 😄

[plain crest]

i work in the workshop folder cuz i wanna just be able to update as soon as my stuff's done/fixed rather than having to look for everything

but i'm sure it'll bite me in the ass

[austere sequoia]

but when you do this, dont you have to update the mod in the games workshop menu if you want to test it? oO

[plain crest]

nope

[austere sequoia]

interesting!

[plain crest]

though, if you're subbed to your own mod, it's possible that version might overwrite the local one...hmm...

[thick karma]

@frigid mantle My only thought on the issue is that you do trigger log-in using a primarily Lua UI, so in theory perhaps you could make the game re-trigger log-in process while already in a server -- but it may require logging all the way back out and back into the server due to Javaside processes between pressing Join and the actual "Click to Start" screen that cannot be modded from Lua.

Or it may require Java modding, which is beyond my Zomboid interests, personally, due to how much harder it tends to be for some users to install those mods correctly.

[small topaz]

when you edit your own mods in the zomboid/workshop or zomboid/mods folder, you should always unsubscribe from it in steam

[frigid mantle]

hmm
i just wondered because i cant use a username and psw to enter as the host and so i wondered if a mod could do that or if i should ask the devs to maybe add it in the future

[thick karma]

But, yeah, in theory, I could see it being feasible, if you hack hard enough at the code.

Steam wouldn't stop you to my knowledge, but I could be wrong about that. (And if the only thing stopping a thing is PZ itself, well, in theory, that can be modded.)

[austere sequoia]

BTW, since you asked for feedback to your mods steam-stuff before: For me personally the "v 0.1" in the thumbnail is hell of confusing. My brain reads it as "Vol. 1" and therefore automatically categorizes it as just another music mod and therefor uninteresting (to me!). Honestly it took me until writing this now to realize that it does not even say Vol. 1. So I guess this could be discouraging people from looking at it

[plain crest]

eh, that's fine. i'd hope the name doesn't Sound like a music mod? and i think it's important for me to (somehow) show that it's. not finished/to the point where i feel comfortable calling it a "full" release. i don't know how else i would say that.

any ideas?

[urban ravine]

something fucked up

i think i need those masks

[plain crest]

check your recycle bin

[small topaz]

what body location are you using now?

[austere sequoia]

Well, it does not say that it is a music mod, but it does not say that it isnt either. To me as someone just looking over it "Palsj's Poofs" could be some indie band with three black ladies singing and someone uploaded their music and albumcover to the game. Maybe replace the "v 0.1" with something like "African Hairstyles" (cause thats whats in the mod) and just say in the mod description that it is a work in progress (as you already do)

[urban ravine]

the belly peircing

[austere sequoia]

some bodylocations can do crazy things IIRC. Maybe try "Nose". This worked for a lot of stuff for me, and only replaces noserings, so no biggie

[small topaz]

this is rendered before the pants and the sweater and it doesn't have the correct setExclusive definitions. it therefore won't cover those clothing types. you should choose a body location whoch is rendered after them to hide them

[austere sequoia]

where can one find the order?

[plain crest]

hmmm...i'm honestly not sure that i agree/that this would be a problem, but i'll keep it in mind for future updates. thank you for the feedback! 💕

[austere sequoia]

No problem 🙂

[small topaz]

in vanilla shared/NPCs/BodyLocations.lua. The render order correponds to the ordering of body locations you find in this code

[austere sequoia]

That is awesome, thank you! I did not even know I needed this, until you mentioned it

[urban ravine]

looks like i just need to do some reposition now, thanks for all the help

[small topaz]

what is your bodylocation now?

[urban ravine]

Nose

[small topaz]

you can try using this but this will result in a lot of glitches. whenever players wear pants with a 3d model for example like baggy jeans, they will get those render problems as in your screenshot from above

[urban ravine]

eh, ya win some you loose a few hundred

[small topaz]

ofc it's your mod and you can design it to your liking. was just to inform you that those problems will occur. using appropriate body locations can prevent this. the whole vanilla body location system is specifically designed to avoid those problems.

I'd still try the FullSuit location...

did you try this after reloading your mod without the masks?

[urban ravine]

yup

just got done refitting the suit too

[small topaz]

cannot imagine that the full suit doesn't work! can you send me your mod as a zip so I can have a look?

I am just bored atm 😉

[urban ravine]

sure thing, but keep in mind, its a heavly edited T-60 power armor mod, so its gonna be a bitch to find references

[small topaz]

I'd try 😉

[frigid mantle]

so as a game suggestion would be better than modding it

[small topaz]

works completely fine for me when using the FullSuit

[urban ravine]

yeah my thinf being weird on my end ten

[small topaz]

but you have to delete all those masks entries in your xml file!!!

[urban ravine]

i did, but i readded them later

[small topaz]

in the version you send to me, they were still there. it has to look like this

[urban ravine]

well then

okay, so i can see clothing underneath but not the player? weird

[thick karma]

I wouldn't necessarily hold my breath for either modders or devs to add that particular feature, to be honest. But you are welcome to try to make those changes possible. It'll be a lot of reading through game files at the point where the game tries to log you into a server and figuring out what you would need to trigger from in-game to simulate everything necessary that follows.

[small topaz]

that's because you didn't delete the masks in the xml! they will hide the full player model

[thick karma]

So you would need to decompile game files most likely and read the Java as well as the Lua, starting with the function triggered when you hit Join Game.

[urban ravine]

:p

well, i should be heading off, its like 6 AM :/

[small topaz]

if you wait 2 mins I can send you my edited file of your mod. then you'll see that it should work

[urban ravine]

nah, ill just edit it out on my end

[small topaz]

kk

[austere sequoia]

For some reason I hoped this would fix models glitching through each other

[small topaz]

it's only the render order. but it comes with additional stuff like setExclusive or setHideModel which makes other clothing automatically disappear when worn together. But it doesn't hide the character skin

[austere sequoia]

but it can only hide like a whole model, if I see it right? So no (easy) way to make, lets say, Hats override the part of wigs (items with hair meshes and textures) that they actually touch?

[small topaz]

it can in some cases prevent glitching since the problematic clothing item is then simply not rendered

[small topaz]

yes. only the whole model.

[austere sequoia]

dang it... you dont happen to know where in vanilla I can find the models for the altered hairstyles that happen through hats?

[small topaz]

no easy way. this can only be done by trying to design the actual 3d model in a proper way

[urban ravine]

\

[small topaz]

you mean the vanilla hairstyle which characters get equipped when they wear hats?

[austere sequoia]

yes, like the normal "FHairLong2" version of the models when using hats

the basic one (I use it) is in models_X/Skinned/Hair, but I guess if there is no other way than making new models, there already must be models for this somewhere

[small topaz]

isn't there a model which called "Hat" or something?

[austere sequoia]

Oh. Now that makes sense. So the models for different hair lenghts are the same, no matter the hairstyle

when using a hat

[small topaz]

yeah... not 100% but I think vanilla only has 1 or 2 models for hats

[austere sequoia]

Well, gaining that information is progress and setback at the same time 😄 I guess I will be fine with a bit of clipping for the moment, lol xD

[small topaz]

I think if you would like to avoid clipping with hats, you simply have to replace your modded hair with one of the vanilla hat models then.

your mod already on steam?

[austere sequoia]

Funny thing is, by accident I already added the "hat" hairstyles as separate wigs on steam. Now I can just sell it as if I did this on purpose to give wigs that are useable with hats xD

[austere sequoia]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3171649407

[small topaz]

so I just checked, vanilla names are "Hat" and "HatLong". can be found in vanilla media/hairStyles/hairStyles.xml

[austere sequoia]

I thought so... Well, I guess Python will find a way to make the work for me

[small topaz]

Python?

[austere sequoia]

yes, my whole mod is written by python code. would not be possible by hand

[small topaz]

understand. all the xml and scrip.txt files

also made a mod where I created some of them automatically but I even used lua to generate them XD

btw just had a look at your mod and saw that your hair styles are all clothing items. then there is no way to make them all so that they don't clip automatically (i.e. just combining your hair style and a hat and there is "magically" never a clipping issue). you probably have to remodel your hair styles or make a separate "hat version" for each of your hairstyles. In the latter case you have to replace the hair styles whenever player puts a hat on. this must be done by lua coding

[austere sequoia]

I was afraid that this would be the way. This would at least double the already obscene amount of items I have 😄 And yes, the hair needs to be items, as It needs to be put on mannequins

[small topaz]

yeah got that. won't work for normal hairstyles. also necessary in order to make them craftable

[austere sequoia]

yes, exactly! It is a difficult balance between providing a solid amount of content and flooding everything in files

[small topaz]

also the amount of 3d modelling required for this would be some work

do you just use vanilla hair styles for your mod or did you create your own ones?

[austere sequoia]

No, everything is vanilla. I try to avoid blender as much as possible

[small topaz]

hmm... ok. so the 3d modelling could be bypassed if you simply try to use the vanilla "Hat" and "HatLong" hairstyles. then there would only be the lua coding thing. this wouldn't be much code I guess but still some work if you aren't used to lua modding in PZ

[austere sequoia]

This would require some drastical rewriting in every single file, but the textures, lol 😄 Maybe I will tackle this in the future, but at the moment I guess I am happy (seeing the amount of work the alternative means). There is hair on my mannequins, that is all I ever wanted 🙂

And I even have the hat versions as wigs in the mod, so they are separate items that can freely be used with hats

That actually was an accident- but a lucky one xD

[small topaz]

Yeah, that's totally ok! 🙂 But still... I don't think you have to change anything on your mod. Just add some lua code. Not changing stuff you've already done

[austere sequoia]

I would basically need LUA code that checks if a hat is placed on a wig, check for the wigtype to chose the proper hat-hair-type and make sure it uses the wigs texture. would this be possible with LUA?

[small topaz]

yes

[austere sequoia]

what would you consider the best starting point / guide / tutorial to start learning LUA?

[small topaz]

if you already know python, learning some lua basics shouldn't be a huge thing. I learned it directly through PZ modding. Checking the PZ code, checking code of some mods which did similar thing I'd like to do and asking here on discord. and using some web resources for basic lua commands (here for example: https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html or just google smth like "lua for loop")

for me, it was more difficult to find out how the PZ code works and how you can mod it via lua

[austere sequoia]

i dont know python, unfortunately. I just know how to explain stuff to idiots and can therefor make ChatGPT do my work

[small topaz]

haha ok! XD

without any programming knowledge, it might be a bit more difficult then to learn the basics

in this case, I also don't have an idea for a good tutorial then. but maybe there are some out there

[austere sequoia]

I say by reading code, I understand 60-80% of whats going on. I just cant write it. But seeing that LUA is an own language, and nothing that PZ just made up (what I presumed), I now can find out how to go on 😄

[small topaz]

best is idea is probably to start with a lua program which prints "hello world", then a lua program which prints all elements from a table, a program which adds to numbers and prints the result and similar easy stuff

[austere sequoia]

I did all this in java once, that is not even too difficult 🙂 Should get it running in LUA too

[small topaz]

if you know basic java, then lua would also not be too difficult to learn. just thought that you have no experience with programming. my bad

[austere sequoia]

well, it is extremely limited at best. Cant write myself, but can successfully alter existing code to do what I want 🙂

[austere sequoia]

But this link here is awesome, this will help me a ton writing myself

I just asked ChatGPT if it can also write in LUA... and it said yes! Lets goooo

[small topaz]

you then need to get a rough overview over the pz lua code, learn how to properly mod it and how to use all the predefined commands and stuff

I think there are also some simple pz modding tutorials on the pz wiki

[austere sequoia]

I will first try make my robot do this. I just need to find the right commands, and iirc they were somewhere on the wiki 🙂

[small topaz]

the commands which you can use in lua can be found here: https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/index.html

they are programmed with java but can also be used in lua. only downside is that the source from my link does not really tell you what the commands do. this has to be inferred from the context when having a look at pz lua code

[austere sequoia]

Thats great! I knew I have seen this list somewhere, thanks for the link!

[sour island]

@cosmic ermine It's a cluster of my mods, but the main one would be EHE. The server I have is 24/7, mostly vanilla settings. I turned events up, just trying to see if this latest fix for the infinite sound is fixed.

[thick karma]

@fiery pecan @bronze yoke Do you know if y'all gave permission to have your file in this mod? Just got a rare conflict because someone running the pack was also running the (sort of awkwardly named tbh) "Small Town First Responders - LEGACY2 - REWRITE OUT NOW!!!", which includes the same exact file name in the same place, but slightly edited:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2809058492

Filename is 87GMCarmoredcar.txt... Seems a bit specific to be a chance alignment. And code is almost identical up to a certain line. P sure it's no vanilla file in my game.

[winter bolt]

try torsoextravest maybe

[cosmic ermine]

Does editing the workshop description affect your workshop.txt aswell?

[austere sequoia]

No. Did this mistake a couple of times

[bright fog]

No, do a copy of your steam page before updating a mod

[thick karma]

Also, if you expect your workshop.txt not to change much or at all, you can dupe your text into a good editor (e.g. VS Code), find and replace all the newlines with newlines followed by description=, and then throw that in your workshop.txt. Then your page will keep the right text when you upload.

[sour island]

If you use the SteamAPI you can bypass the in-game uploader

Would only change the contents package, and not the workshop related stuff

For what that's worth

[thick karma]

Fancy

[sour island]

This is also how gif posters are setup- using a program/steamAPI to edit just that file - as the in-game uploader doesn't allow gifs

[crystal oar]

just gonna toss this out in the aether since i just had the idea: Pogs

[crystal oar]

nice!

[oblique shard]

is it possible to set up custom survivor npcs that idle on the spot for rp faction guards in a mod

[urban ravine]

morning, does anyone know how i can get my mods armor to spawn on zombies?

[urban ravine]

this might be what your looking for
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088354589

[oblique shard]

ooh nice ty man

[urban ravine]

np

[sour island]

Braven made a NPC framework? I thought he was using PZNS 😮

[bright fog]

He did yes

Not sure how good it is tho

[oblique shard]

looks nice but wish it was for multiplayer like spawning npc hostile military guards or police that raid you for looting lol

[sour island]

MP NPCs as a mod would be pretty close to impossible

and probably require java mods to get off the ground

Not to mention parallel developing something like that along with the official version would be a good waste of time

[bronze yoke]

i honestly don't know what this file is for, night has vanished for the time being so i can't ask him, but my best guess would be that this is an intentional overwrite of that mod's file

that is, it probably originates from that mod and not us

[thick karma]

@bronze yoke Interesting, because this picture suggests that it is not allowing an overwrite, and simply registering it as a mismatch:

I wonder if perhaps the files loaded in the opposite order on server vs client?

So client overwrote the opposite direction?

Not sure, problem could be something else.

But that's why I hyu

[bronze yoke]

does the client definitely have the correct mod installed? maybe it's checking before making the client download it

[thick karma]

Unsure, he has other issues and burned out before we could finish. @bronze yoke

I'll let you know more when I know more.

He rebuilt new server settings from scratch and launched his server okay (I didn't catch whether he used both those mods the second time), but then it crashed due to some kind of divide by zero error associated with clothing, which leads me to believe maybe he removed a very important clothing-related mod that the save cannot live without.

We never made it to reproducing what he originally asked for help solving.

I think he was given the idea to just remove all mods and resub to everything by Beard and did that before I could get my scalpel out. Was at work.

[bright fog]

That can happen even when you really have the right mods installed, I suggest uninstalling the mods that are mentioned in this error and reinstalling them

[heady crystal]

Just decided to do my own thing from the ground up. It's nothing special, far from it in fact.
It's more of a pet project for eventually getting to the real crazy ideas, but I've been out of time to work on it more.

[thick karma]

Word if he lets me try more stuff, I'll mention results here.

[bright fog]

👌

[sour island]

Was just curious, thought I remembered wrong 😅

[thick karma]

Uh-oh, what's this? Do they go to 11, you in fact never asked?

Oh, they go to 11.

[bright fog]

Or just go from 0 to 10 you mean ?

[thick karma]

No.

0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

(mo #*$&a ❤️ )

[bright fog]

bruh

[thick karma]

BROUGH

IT IS ON

This update gonna be crankin 90s

gets banned

[thick karma]

Anyone hearing impaired? You can become so...

(I put subjectively reasonable limits on this, but it does get pretty loud.)

[bright fog]

why lmao

[thick karma]

Accessibility of course

For the hearing impaired and people who are metal

And doesn't seeing it just make you happy?

I mean isn't happiness worth something?

is banned for getting off-topic

[thick karma]

@bronze yoke I might just be delirious from modding all day, but, if not, I believe I've found a small error in MFTEOTW...

While using it for many months, I have very rarely encountered the following error:

Originally I chalked it up to a bad track or something; but today I was bored enough to check line 50 of that file, and I found this:

local function onFillContainer(_roomName, _containerType, container)
    local dummies = container:getAllType("Tsarcraft.BlankCassette") -- dummy item type
    if dummies:size() == 0 then return end
    for i = 0, dummies:size()-1 do
        container:Remove(dummies:get(i))
    end

    for i = 0, ZombRand(1 * SandboxVars.MFTEOTWC.maxCassettes) do
        local itemChoice = ZombRand(#itemList)
        local item = container:AddItem(itemList[itemChoice]) <-- Invocation Target Exception
        container:addItemOnServer(item)
    end
end

Events.OnFillContainer.Add(onFillContainer)

So I think to myself, "Can I be sure itemList[itemChoice] exists?" and I quickly notice ZombRand(#itemList) which would give you a number from 0 to #itemList - 1... And if I'm not mistaken, itemList does not have a 0, because it is created entirely using loops based on table.insert. It is therefore possible for this to randomly (about, what, 1/500 times?) throw an exception because it rolls 0.

[bronze yoke]

thanks, it'll probably be fixed when the next update comes out

[robust locust]

Thoughts on my mod (wip) to hang guitars on the walls? (other instruments might come later)

[plain crest]

Super rad, I love that. Is it a modification of current guitars or is it like a “furniture” that we put up and then store the guitar in?

[cosmic ermine]

This is nice, good for builders and decorators.

[dawn acorn]

how would i go about creating new animations for new guns

[austere sequoia]

Awesome work so far! Dont forget the shadows 😛

[austere sequoia]

Is there a way to give tiles tooltips? As in just hovering over a generator with the mouse, it will tell how much fuel it has? Or does anyone know of a mod that adds something like this?

[fast galleon]

check farming tooltips

[austere sequoia]

!!! Thank you! It was right before my eyes

[oblique shard]

noob question but do players autodownloaded required mods for a multiplayer server or do they need to dl them individually from workshop ?

wondering if i should compile them all into one megamod (its just a small server for friends)

[austere sequoia]

when connecting to a server a player sees a list of all missing mods and gets the option to download

[oblique shard]

easy thats what i was hoping, thanks

[granite ginkgo]

Guys, anyone has a clue why a car mod would not work in MP?

And also, what if a car doesn't spawn randomly on the map at all?

[small topaz]

better ask in #mod_support or on the mod's steam page if your question is about a specific mod

[robust locust]

Thanks! its like furniture... you attach the guitar to the "hanger" from inventory then place it on a wall. only way i could do it without loads of code, which i dont know how to write 😄

[robust locust]

thanks dude! yea it needs shadows... is there a light direction that pz uses? i.e. light source comes from west side, etc?

[austere sequoia]

following the logic on the textures, light should be coming from topleft (east?), so shadows are cast to bottom right

[robust locust]

so would i mostly see shadows cast from items on the northwall onto that wall? items on the west wall would cast a shadow into the center of the room?

isnt topleft the west side?

[austere sequoia]

orientation is this game confuses the hell out of me xD

[austere sequoia]

basically yes, they will throw their shadow into the room

[robust locust]

😄 yea i got no idea too.

I might just focus on the north wall, as that's where a shadow would hit the wall... im thinkink

[sage mantle]

Cant figure this out. I'm trying to make a function called localTigerIITurretKillZomb() that uses a global variable from the other existing function to make a killzone in front of the turret (to act like an MG) the problem I have is that when the vehicle spins in the opposite direction the rotation of the MG zone gets inverted. Ill post video

Idk how to change the math to fix it

P.S I had an idea to use this function for a flamethrower tank as well lol

[brittle vapor]

How to remove the sandbox label in sandbox-options

[tough edge]

Adding new tiles to TileZed, does anyone know what this tile property does? Is it the surface the tile uses or the surface that items can be placed on the tile?

[thick karma]

Looks like the translation variables are set up wrong. I'm not even sure using non-English characters for the variable name can work at all. I imagine there are many non-English characters that would definitely not work as variable names properly in the Lua but I could be wrong.

Share your sandbox-options.txt and Sandbox_LANGUAGE.txt and we may be able to spot the issue

[brittle vapor]

Sandbox_LANGUAGE.txt no

[thick karma]

I see two issues... First, this;

[arctic ember]

are you uploading this to the steam workshop?

[thick karma]

If my app is misreading the translation names because you're not using English characters for the names, it's possible Zomboid also parses then wrong.

[brittle vapor]

written in Cyrillic

[thick karma]

Yes that's the problem

[sage mantle]

no

[arctic ember]

aw man

ok

[thick karma]

Variable names may need to be in English letters

[sage mantle]

well maybe but not with that model at least. I got permission from the coder but not the model maker

[brittle vapor]

and they need to be translated into Cyrillic?

[thick karma]

Translations in your Sandbox_LANGUAGE file can be Cyrillic with the correct encoding.

[arctic ember]

wasn't the model maker shark?

[thick karma]

But I don't know if that's allowed for the names of the options

[sage mantle]

yeah he didnt want me to use it

[thick karma]

Also, you do not use a closing comma on the last field in sandbox-options

[arctic ember]

ah, it looks cool though

[sage mantle]

I think papa chad might make a model, he said he was interested but Idk

[thick karma]

And I am not sure about trying to write more than one field on a line; I always put each field on its own line@brittle vapor

[brittle vapor]

in shared?

[sage mantle]

Im just gonna keep working on the code though

[thick karma]

Yes, but to be clear I mean the translations themselves, NOT the variable names.

I have never tried Cyrillic for variable names anywhere, and I would expect problems if I did

[sage mantle]

the issue is here on mine if vehicle and string.find(vehicle:getScriptName(), "TigerII") then local angle = vehicle:getAngleY() -- Calculate the direction vector based on the turret's rotation and current bearing local deltt = {} deltt[1] = math.sin(math.rad(angle + currentBearing)) if math.abs(vehicle:getAngleZ()) > 90 then deltt[2] = -math.cos(math.rad(angle + currentBearing)) else deltt[2] = math.cos(math.rad(angle + currentBearing)) end

but Im stupid and cant figure it out

[austere sequoia]

I am somewhat stuck. Tiled cant find my png in the 2X folder, so I cant add it via the blue plus button. I used the basetemplate for creating new tiles and paint in it, as I did before (I already made it work before), but now it is not working - no matter what I try. It is 1024 x 2048, it has an alphachannel, it definitely is PNG, but nothing is working. What did I miss? Is there a certain way to name my layers? Or like a button I missed during saving?

[thick karma]

Also one of your options seems to have a "." where its name should be

[brittle vapor]

These aren't variables, are they?

[thick karma]

Yes they should be

[brittle vapor]

Ok thanks

[thick karma]

If you're not using quotes they're assumed to be variables pointing at translations in Sandbox_RU or whatever language that is

You can check True Music Jukebox for examples; we have sandbox options with Russian translations

[brittle vapor]

👌

[thick karma]

And, again, I'm pretty sure you cannot use a trailing comma there

I think it'll bug the line and cause translation not to load

@brittle vapor

[sage mantle]

yeah I dont think its supposed to have comma either

[brittle vapor]

I'll take it into account

[sage mantle]

so in pz does the y angle become like a negative value after crossing the center axis or something

in terms of like vehicles

[muted oyster]

What is like the least amount of time it would take to make a mode ?

[austere sequoia]

like two minutes. unless you want a good thumbnail, then depending on your skills 10 minutes or more

[sage mantle]

so close yet so far lol

[muted oyster]

Wym that looks good bruv

[sage mantle]

watch till the end though, like when the actual vehicle break the 180 degree mark it like flip flops

[muted oyster]

Ah

[sage mantle]

yeah Idk why

[muted oyster]

Wish I could help but I ain't no coding genius

[sage mantle]

me neither I'm just jamming random stuff in till it works lol

[muted oyster]

No no you probably have basic knowledge I have no knowledge about coding I mean I'm currently taking a classes for it but I'm failing lol

[sage mantle]

I just know like really basic stuff

[muted oyster]

Exactly

[sage mantle]

I think I just need to do like this but have an else to do the other way

        angle = angle -180
        end```

[muted oyster]

From one peasent to what currently feels like a lord when you are done with that do you want to make the smallest mod ever for me

plz

[sage mantle]

whats the mod?

[muted oyster]

Very basic just something that makes it so the only people that see the circled part are the nurse/ Doctor occupations

Basically, so it's dangerous to change bandages alone.

[sage mantle]

man idk nothing about player UI stuff I just been messing with vehicle stuff

[muted oyster]

Ahhhhh ok well thx anyways

[sage mantle]

If I ever figure this out I can look into it, is there a player UI lua for it I assume?

[muted oyster]

Honestly bruv idk anything about notin

[sage mantle]

If there is a similar mod that edits player UI you can reference it and see what files need to be edited

ahh yes perfect

[muted oyster]

I'll look more but I know the inventory tetris changes looks of inventory ui

[sage mantle]

yeah man sorry I'm just not sure how to go about doing it I'd have to look at like a reference or something

If I had my game decompiled maybe

[muted oyster]

Ight

[nocturne swift]

UI ..Tell me please how to set the default selection in a comboBox to the first element? It really confuses me that I have to click every time to select

[fierce sparrow]

How do you calculate the angle

it looks like you're using the vehicle's model direction

[sage mantle]

yeah and then the current bearing is a globabal variable thats calculated in another function and thats a value between 1 and 360 so I'm subtracting that from the vehicle angle

which gives me the right angle in most directions except when the vehicle turns 180 then it breaks it

so these are the two functions

    local playerObj = getPlayer()
    local vehicle = playerObj:getVehicle()

    if vehicle and string.find(vehicle:getScriptName(), "TigerII") then
        local angle = vehicle:getAngleY()
        -- Calculate the direction vector based on the turret's rotation and current bearing
        local deltt = {}
        deltt[1] = math.sin(math.rad(angle + currentBearing))
        if math.abs(vehicle:getAngleZ()) > 90 then
            deltt[2] = -math.cos(math.rad(angle + currentBearing))
        else
            deltt[2] = math.cos(math.rad(angle + currentBearing))
        end

        -- Get the initial coordinates for spawning smoke
        local xxx = vehicle:getX()
        local yyy = vehicle:getY()

        -- Variable for breaking out of the loop
        local isbreak = 3```

        for i = 3, 20 do
            xxx = math.ceil(xxx + i * deltt[1])
            yyy = math.ceil(yyy + i * deltt[2])

            -- Loop through a grid of squares around the calculated coordinates
            for xx = -1, 1 do
                if isbreak <= 0 then
                    break
                end
                for yy = -1, 1 do
                    if isbreak <= 0 then
                        break
                    end
                    -- Get the grid square at the calculated coordinates
                    local zsquare = getCell():getGridSquare(xxx + xx, yyy + yy, 0)
                    if zsquare then
                        -- Check if there's a zombie in the grid square and kill it
                        local zombie = zsquare:getZombie()
                        if zombie then
                            zombie:Kill(playerObj)
                            isbreak = isbreak - 1
                        end
                        -- Spawn smoke at the grid square
                        IsoFireManager.StartSmoke(getCell(), zsquare, true, 200, 1000)
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end
end```

and then

    local modData = player:getModData()
    if vehicle ~= nil and vehicle:getSeat(player) == 0 then
        if isMouseButtonDown(1) then
            modData.TigerIIAim = true
            modData.TigerIIAimVehicleId = vehicle:getId()
            goalBearing = pMod(math.floor(playerDirection(player:getDirectionAngle()) -
                                              vehicleDirection(vehicle:getAngleX(), vehicle:getAngleY(),
                    vehicle:getAngleZ()) + 0.1), 360)
            goalBearing = math.floor(goalBearing / 1) * 1
        else
            goalBearing = 0
        end
        if RotatoTick <= 0 then
            RotatoTick = getAverageFPS() / 50
        else
            RotatoTick = RotatoTick - 1
            return
        end
        if goalBearing > currentBearing then
            TurretRotating = true
            locked = false
            if goalBearing - currentBearing <= 180 then
                sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
                    newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)),
                    oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
                    vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
                });
                currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)
            else
                sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
                    newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)),
                    oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
                    vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
                });
                currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)
      ```

            -- Check if the looping sound is not already playing
            if not vehicle:getEmitter():isPlaying("TurretRotate") then
                -- Start the looping sound
                vehicle:getEmitter():playSound("TurretStart", false)
                vehicle:getEmitter():playSound("TurretRotate", true) -- 'true' for looping
            end
            ISTigerAimTime = ISTigerAimTime + 1
            if ISTigerAimTime >= 1 then
                ISTigerAimTime = 1
            end
        elseif goalBearing < currentBearing then
            locked = false
            TurretRotating = true
            if currentBearing - goalBearing <= 180 then
                sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
                    newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)),
                    oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
                    vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
                });
           ```

            else
                sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
                    newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)),
                    oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
                    vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
                });
                currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)
            end
            -- Check if the looping sound is not already playing
            if not vehicle:getEmitter():isPlaying("TurretRotate") then
                -- Start the looping sound
                vehicle:getEmitter():playSound("TurretStart", false) -- 'true' for looping
                vehicle:getEmitter():playSound("TurretRotate", true)
            end
            ISTigerAimTime = ISTigerAimTime + 1
            if ISTigerAimTime >= 1 then
                ISTigerAimTime = 1
            end
        else
            TurretRotating = false
            locked = true
            if vehicle:getEmitter():isPlaying("TurretRotate") then
            -- Stop the looping sound
            vehicle:getEmitter():stopSoundByName("TurretRotate")
            --vehicle:getEmitter():playSound("TurretStop", false)
            end
        end
    end
end```

I wrote the top code to use the bottom code

[muted oyster]

My brain has done gone

[sage mantle]

mine too lol

[fierce sparrow]

I think your issue is,

        goalBearing = pMod(math.floor(playerDirection(player:getDirectionAngle()) -

this part

because your playerDirection changes according to the vechile doing 180

and then you subrstarct the vehicle dir from it too

[muted oyster]

Give me your brain juices

[sage mantle]

Ik goal bearing is also a global variable but I though it was referring to the aimed point

but yeah I do see it does this in his ```if goalBearing > currentBearing then
TurretRotating = true
locked = false
if goalBearing - currentBearing <= 180 then
sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)),
oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
});
currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)
else
sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)),
oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
});
currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)

  end```

so what would I have to put here to fix it?

            TurretRotating = true
            locked = false
            if goalBearing - currentBearing <= 180 then
                sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
                    newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)),
                    oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
                    vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
                });
                currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)
            else
                sendClientCommand("TigerIISend", "Rotate", {
                    newBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)),
                    oldBearing = tostring(pMod(currentBearing, 360)),
                    vehicleId = vehicle:getId()
                });
                currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)
      
      end```

[fierce sparrow]

Why are you checking btw if the GoalBearing is higher than the Current Bearing?

and not if they aren't the same for example

but for erm fixing, I think you might want to, check how you spawn the smoke

and where

Because, when you aim it, it doesn't aim where your mouse is

its not in the current bearing etc

[sage mantle]

this was the orginal function, but I think because if its higher hes telling it to add if not than to subtract from current bearing

[sage mantle]

yeah but probably to get the closest point beacause if the pointer is all the way on the other side it will tell the turret to spin the direction that is closer

it proably is from it going from

currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing + 1, 360)

to

currentBearing = pMod(currentBearing - 1, 360)

in his function thats making it flop in mine

so I need to edit this to account for the change

        local angle = vehicle:getAngleY()
        -- Calculate the direction vector based on the turret's rotation and current bearing
        local deltt = {}
        deltt[1] = math.sin(math.rad(angle + currentBearing))
        if math.abs(vehicle:getAngleZ()) > 90 then
            deltt[2] = -math.cos(math.rad(angle + currentBearing))
        else
            deltt[2] = math.cos(math.rad(angle + currentBearing))
        end```

I think I dunno lol

more likely is my math part is wrong

or that when the current bearing goes from a positive to a negative value instead of adding it I need to subtract it instead

[vital karma]

I have been trying to figure out a way to get the number of zombie kills from the player, is there a function I need to call or should I make one that runs separately?

[austere sequoia]

isnt there a mod that does this already? you could look what they did

[austere sequoia]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2553809727&searchtext=kill+count

this one will probably have answers for you

[small topaz]

you can try this: player:getZombieKills()

[vital karma]

thats what I found is used in the mod listed above, was just asking too see if there was something else reccomended to use. but as of now thats what I am using.

[small topaz]

getZombieKills() is also the "official" command for that which is used by the vanilla code. Not sure if there is a better alternative...

[vital karma]

thank you!

[plain crest]

perfect, that's what i'd prefer from a user perspective. keep up the good work!

[quick garnet]

Hey guys, do anyone know where can I find the layout for the zpop_xx_xx.bin file?
I wanna be able to see how many Zeds are still around in a given playthrough and think this may be the way to do it.

[robust locust]

thanks, I'll try 😄

[sage mantle]

I am an idiot, but I am a determined idiot lol

this is what I ended up doing if curious

    local playerObj = getPlayer()
    local vehicle = playerObj:getVehicle()

    if not vehicle or not string.find(vehicle:getScriptName(), "TigerII") then
        return  -- Exiting if player is not in a Tiger II or not in a vehicle
    end

    local angledet = -currentBearing
    local deltt = {}

    local angleY = vehicle:getAngleY()

        deltt[2] = -math.sin(math.rad(90 - angleY))
    else
        deltt[2] = math.sin(math.rad(90 - angleY))
    end

    -- Calculate deltt[1] based on the condition
    if deltt[2] < 0 then
        if math.abs(vehicle:getAngleZ()) > 90 then
            deltt[2] = -math.sin(math.rad(90 - angleY - angledet))
        else
            deltt[2] = math.sin(math.rad(90 - angleY - angledet))
        end
        deltt[1] = math.cos(math.rad(90 - angleY - angledet))
    else
        if math.abs(vehicle:getAngleZ()) > 90 then
            deltt[2] = -math.sin(math.rad(90 - angleY + angledet))
        else
            deltt[2] = math.sin(math.rad(90 - angleY + angledet))
        end
        deltt[1] = math.cos(math.rad(90 - angleY + angledet))
    end

    -- Get the initial coordinates for spawning smoke
    local xxx = vehicle:getX()
    local yyy = vehicle:getY()

    -- Variable for breaking out of the loop
    local isbreak = 3

    for i = 3, 20 do
        xxx = math.ceil(xxx + i * deltt[1])
        yyy = math.ceil(yyy + i * deltt[2])

        -- Loop through a grid of squares around the calculated coordinates
        for xx = -1, 1 do
            if isbreak <= 0 then
                break
            end
            for yy = -1, 1 do
                if isbreak <= 0 then
                    break
                end
                -- Get the grid square at the calculated coordinates
                local zsquare = getCell():getGridSquare(xxx + xx, yyy + yy, 0)
                if zsquare then
                    -- Check if there's a zombie in the grid square and kill it
                    local zombie = zsquare:getZombie()
                    if zombie then
                        zombie:Kill(playerObj)
                        isbreak = isbreak - 1
                    end
                    -- Spawn smoke at the grid square
                    IsoFireManager.StartSmoke(getCell(), zsquare, true, 200, 1000)
                end
            end
        end
    end
end```

I just jammed stuff in till it worked lol

[mellow frigate]

I am currently removing a floor tile and replacing it with another floor tile. The removing works immediately. but the adding half works: the Iso object + sprite is on the tile (seen through Chunk Debugger), but invisible (black tile when there is no other IsoObject on the tile) If I move far enough away and come back or quit and continue, the tile loading system shows the new tile's sprite as I initially expected. ```lua
currentSquare:RemoveTileObject(toRemoveIsoObject)
local newObj = IsoObject.new(currentSquare, "myvalidspritename", 'myobjectname')
currentSquare:disableErosion()
currentSquare:transmitAddObjectToSquare(newObj, 0)
newObj:transmitUpdatedSprite()

[sage mantle]

#1211658917877260359 message

[slow granite]

castiell_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

K2#1335 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[quick garnet]

Hy @mellow frigate, you are the author of the Auto Loot mod right?
I am the guy who was asking about the possibility of reaching farther the other day.
Maybe you can help me here, I am trying to find a way to count how many zombies still exist on the map in a given playthrough, and think that the answer may lie on the zpop_xx_xx.bin files.
Do you happen to know where can I find a description of their layout and usage?

[thick karma]

@bronze yoke @bright fog Mission completed fairly easily thanks to DOME.

[robust locust]

Can a recipe give more than 1 item?
i.e. I want to seperate 1 item into 2

[vital karma]

Say...... How do I make an object edible?

Been having issues with making nails edible, it's an inside joke and was wanting to make it possible for us.

[robust locust]

Have you set it as a Food item?

[vital karma]

As the type? I should yes, I will double check

[robust locust]

Yea, i think that does it... if not... im all outta ideas 😄

[vital karma]

anything I am missing? or that could cause an issue?

[quick garnet]

@robust locust and @vital karma maybe you guys would know where can I find the layout for the zpop_xx_xx.bin file?

I wanna be able to see how many Zeds are still around in a given playthrough and think this may be the way to do it.

[vital karma]

idk. have you checked the game files? I have no clue

[quick garnet]

Do you mean, decode the java source?

[vital karma]

It should be in the file if its opened and not ran I believe

idk though

[drifting ore]

anyone know where to find the lua code for the generator?

[quick garnet]

In the bin file you mean?

[vital karma]

yes

[quick garnet]

No, it is not there, just binary stuff and some codes about dresses and types of zombies

[robust locust]

Sorry, I dont. Im super new to modding, so not much idea where anything is 😄

[robust locust]

no, but let me know if you do as i was looking for that too

[quick garnet]

Thanks guys, I am a newbie myself, just trying to find my way

[drifting ore]

will do. imma give it another look rq

[vital karma]

from my understanding there is no "zombies left" as I know zombies in buildings are not spawned until you look in the building.

[robust locust]

quantum zombies

[vital karma]

then that is your answer for the files layout. nothing much too it

sorry was running somewhere on my play through

[quick garnet]

I've killed all zombies in the streets in my current playthrough, but I know for a fact that there are plenty of zombies still in the woods.
I would like to create some mod that coould count them.

[vital karma]

then I would recommend looking into how zombie spawns work and starting from there. might be able to find your answer there.

[chrome egret]

Thanks to help from folks in this server and others, Propane Generators Version 2.0 is live with custom items, sprites, and icons! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3167672659

[drifting ore]

found these two files, but they dont appear to contain the actual lua workings of the generator.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\client\TimedActions\ISActivateGenerator.lua"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\server\Map\MapObjects\MOGenerator.lua"

[robust locust]

it's a sneaky little bugger

[robust locust]

this looks great... i'll deffo add that to my playthrough

[crystal oar]

if i use local recipe = getScriptManager():getRecipe(item) will that get me a recipe object or an array of all the recipe objects that match?

[nova socket]

That's actually genius even its a bit unrealistic

Subbed and favorited

[grand raven]

Hi mates

Mb somebody could help me explaining how to make modpack?
Thanks

At least
If i make modpack
Will it stop mods from updating on server and client?

[thick karma]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-tumble-weed-ghost-town-gif-11132442

[signal frost]

Is there a gitflow pipeline for zomboid mods?

[cosmic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-the-cycle-frontier-the-cycle-frontier-hop-on-the-cycle-frontier-gif-26888181

[bright fog]

Now that's interesting

[mellow frigate]

Hi, I do not know. I do not look at binaries directly. But all Zombies are not alive at all time. I guess random will come in your way and it is not possible to get more than an estimation like those given by Zombie Heat maps.

[small topaz]

should return a recipe object. you can check that here https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/

[austere sequoia]

Hey guys! When I want to add tiles, I have to add the "tiledef=nameofmytiledef randomnumber" line into mod info - my question is, where do I find the random number? Do I just pick one? Unfortunately all guides and videos about this I found dont mention this / are outdated

[grand raven]

If i make modpack
Will it stop mods from updating on server and client?

[small topaz]

Yes, if you make your mod pack as a separate mod, they will never update when the creators of the original mods update them in the steam workshop (this applies to server as well as to client).

[small topaz]

Is there a way to get the grid square a player is facing at?

[cedar ingot]

How can I make a mod

[austere sequoia]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

[cedar ingot]

How do I get everything to work right and so that I could test it

[austere sequoia]

set up the folderstructure with your contents in user/zomboid/mods, then you can test it ingame

[cedar ingot]

It'll auto load it and then I can just go into a world and shite

[austere sequoia]

when you put everything in the right folder, you can activate it ingame as any other mod and test it

[cedar ingot]

Oh ok

Ans what would be the best cheat mode mod or thing to help test a new mod

[austere sequoia]

set -debug in PZs steam starter options

then you have debug mode, with all cheats

and an item search menu, and basically everything you could ever need

[cedar ingot]

Ok that's cewl

So adding a text file to the game through that structure will automatically load and be used or? Like how do I get it to recognize it as code for the game

[austere sequoia]

it is highly depending on what you want to do, but yes, when you add a textfile with the right contents to the right place in your mods folder structure, you can make something happen in your mod

[cedar ingot]

so do i create a new folder in the mods folder or no?

[austere sequoia]

Yes, your mods folder goes there. there should also be an examplemod already present, you can copy the mod.info file from there and modify it to your liking (this names your mod and more)

[cedar ingot]

like this

[austere sequoia]

yes, one folder per mod. so you "mymods" folder should contain the mod.info file, a poster.png (not mandatory) and the media folder, where all your stuff goes into

[cedar ingot]

media folder?

[austere sequoia]

yes, a folder, called "media". best to look at other mods how they have done it. your mod basically copies vanillas folderstructure, beginning with "media" (the main folder of the game with almost everything in it)

[cedar ingot]

so i need to create a new folder in "MyFirstMod" called "media"?

[austere sequoia]

yes

[cedar ingot]

what do i need to put in that folder?

[austere sequoia]

depends on what you want to do. Add an item? Put a scripts folder in your media folder with a textfile called "items_whateverbutspecifictoyourmod" as name and your item desription in it

as example

textures go somewhere else, as well as code, texturepacks, clothing items, etc. Look at the vanilla folder structure or at mods that do something similar you want to do, to learn how they made it

[cedar ingot]

so the mod.info should just be those 5 lines?

[austere sequoia]

Is enough for most mods, yes. Some mods, like tilepacks, would need additional entries

[cedar ingot]

whats a tilepack?

[austere sequoia]

stuff like furniture, floor textures, wallstyles.... all the 2D stuff

[cedar ingot]

oooh ok

nah i think i just want to do something basic like a new item or something

[austere sequoia]

alright 👍

[cedar ingot]

how can i find the info from other mods so that i can look at it

[sage mantle]

is there a way to disable a key press if certain conditions are met. Like if I want to prevent the E key from exiting vehicle if the player is aiming with the tank

because I get a overflow if the player exits while aiming

[austere sequoia]

steam/steamapps/workshop/content/108600/MODID-you get from workshop

[sage mantle]

maybe isExitBlocked?

[reef vine]

Hello ! I'd like to work on a mod about Wooden Crate. It's ok for the .fbx but I can't find where's the script or files in PZ directory to work on ! Help ? 🙂

[cedar ingot]

i dont think i understand how to read code to understand and replicate it myself

[austere sequoia]

you dont have to understand code 🙂 for a lot of stuff just understanding the folder structure and what goes where is enough

[cedar ingot]

i meant to add an item or the scripts or anything like that

[austere sequoia]

it really is pretty simple - as said, as long as the files go to the right folders and you used the right format (via copy paste - edit) there is already a lot you can do

[cedar ingot]

maybe but i cant find a mod simillar to what i want to do because their all numbers

[austere sequoia]

the numbers (i guess you mean workshop ID) are on each mods workshop page. So you want to look at the files of mod XYZ? Go to mod XYZs workshop page, look at the bottom of the description, and look for the folder named after the steam ID in the 108600 folder I mentioned earlier

[cedar ingot]

oh

[thick karma]

Next update we read in Mod Options if they exist and write them to our own file... Mod Options will no longer be a dependency of TMJ. We're handling our own options using our DOME now.

I reimplemented everything it did for us but better using DOME (better in that we now have more control and our own options page with less dependency on other mods)

[thick karma]

You should not modpack without permission and you should change all mod ids in your modpack to avoid causing bugs for all your users or getting your mod taken down drom Steam for code stealing violations

If you modpack badly and without permission, modders can and in my opinion should have that modpack pulled from steam. And before you try hiding a badly made modpack that reuses original mod ids, know that we will find out about it through mod support even if it's hidden or private because it will cause bugs for people who will show up there for help.

Changing all the ids and references in mod.info and the mods' files will reduce chances of you causing bugs for people, but you can still get pulled down for reposting code that isn't yours without permission.

[small topaz]

Does anyone knows how to check whether a square contains obstacles for player movement? I.e. solid, insuperable obstacles like cars or tables but also obstacles which only slow the player down like hedges or trees.

[azure edge]

maybe here it better to add my question so i can continue trying

if i want a recipe to have 2 different results how i write it? for example result is a 200$ coin and a 50$ coin
Result:200$,50, or Result:200$/50$? or something else?
i dont want to create a 250$ bill also as a new item (which i guess i can but i dont want )

[thick karma]

There are several functions.
https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/zombie/iso/IsoGridSquare.html#isSomethingTo(zombie.iso.IsoGridSquare)

@small topaz

I think you'll have to use isSomethingTo as trigger to figure out what

[small topaz]

thanks! I'll check those functions out.

[sage mantle]

anyone use setLocked() or getDoor() ?

[azure edge]

cant any1 help me?

[small topaz]

Recipes can only produce items of one type. For example, to get 20 nails, you can add
Result:Nails=20,
to your recipe script.txt. Recipes cannot return items of different types. If you want to achieve this, you have to make a Recipe.OnCreate function in your mod's lua/server folder and use this function to add the additional items to the player's inventory. To see an example how this works, you can check the vanilla recipe "Open Box of Jars". It has a function Recipe.OnCreate.OpenBoxOfJars attached to it. This function can be found in vanilla lua/server/recipecode.lua and it adds additional items to the player inventory.

[azure edge]

@small topazty so much

so it will be easier for an amateur like me to make it return money=250 i guess

ty

[small topaz]

yes, if you want to avoid lua coding, this will be easier

[azure edge]

ty

[crystal oar]

oh boy, how does getAllRecipesFor work? what i am trying to do is go through the list of all recipes and affect certain ones based on if it matches a recipe enumerated in the sandbox vars. the way I used to do it was with local recipe = getScriptManager():getRecipe(item) but i realized that it would only grab the first recipe with a given name from a given module, when what i want is each matching recipe (in the event more than one has the same name and module name)

[small topaz]

I don't know what the getAllRecipesFor exactly does. However, the result will be an array list which you can access and modify via lua code

[crystal oar]

looking like that gets all the recipes with a particular result? not what i wanted. would the best way to find all instances of a given recipe to just iterate over all the recipes? also is there a way from a recipe object to get what module it is from when not using local recipe = getScriptManager():getRecipe(item) (that took the module name and the recipe name)

[quick garnet]

👍

[small topaz]

don't know anything about those things. sorry here

[crystal oar]

okay, thanks for the help anyway

[mellow frigate]

the blocking movement is handled by TchernoLib through ```lua
MovePlayer.isBlockedTo(fromSquare,toSquare)

[robust locust]

Hiya... I'm trying to write a function that always gives me back an item...

but it's pulling an error in game... could someone please point out how I'm being an idiot?

[neon bronze]

Whats the error?

[rich void]

Made a new anomaly today, kinda fun 🤣

[robust locust]

when the save loads, the "break on error" screen pops up and shows that code. I cant tell what the error is saying exactly

[robust locust]

looks really kool!

ideally, I'd like my DisconnectGuitar function to check what guitar ive clicked on (if I have more than one type for example) and return that item...

but I dont know how to do that

[rich void]

Get the stack trace from the console.txt

Just ctrl + f stack and send the error, it will tell you the line it throws and the error 👍

[robust locust]

im not sure where that file is... will have a look

[rich void]

your local zomboid folder, same place you'd go to upload your mods

[robust locust]

this is the 1st part..

thanks btw

[stone lantern]

Hello. I have a question. I would like to design a mod that not only was a profession but changed the way the Character looked. Like a 1-Armed man, or 1-legged woman. The idea being you get a large number of bonus traits along with draw backs. What tool can I down load that would let me design characters and their animations?

[robust locust]

probably blender

[stone lantern]

Blender is the goto for MODIng? I see a map modding tool in steam for PZ. Nothing for character development.

[robust locust]

for 3d models and animation... it think so, but im new.
for 2d stuff - either photshop or gimp... again, i think 😄

[rich void]

My guess is that Recipe is returning null, I haven't really messed much with recipe script calls but I'm pretty sure you need

require "recipecode"
require('NPCs/MainCreationMethods')

and to be on the safe side

Recipe = Recipe or {}
Recipe.OnCreate = Recipe.OnCreate or {}

at the top of your script @robust locust

[neon bronze]

Try Recipe.OnCreate instead of Recipe.onCreate

[robust locust]

thanks i'll try that

[robust locust]

thanks, i'll try that too

[neon bronze]

In your function you have the latter

[rich void]

^ Good spot

[robust locust]

i'll that change first, as it's a quick one, then 1ndie's

[robust locust]

so many i things need to fix

this still appeared on start up

i think i also have a texture problem somewhere

the recipe worked, but the function didn't

I wish they made an easier way to get more than 1 thing back from a recipe...

[robust locust]

gonna try this now

[bronze yoke]

requiring vanilla files doesn't do anything at all

if you try to Recipe = Recipe or {} here, it won't work because the vanilla file doesn't do that, it'll just overwrite the table you created - you can guarantee you load after the vanilla file by just putting it in the server folder, which they have done

[bronze yoke]

click Errors to see what the error actually is

in the screenshot OnCreate is still not capitalised, which would throw an error

[robust locust]

is there a reason why Recipe has a squiggly line?

or is that no biggie?

[bronze yoke]

vscode doesn't know about zomboid stuff so it doesn't know where Recipe is coming from

if you install umbrella it should go away

but it won't affect how your code actually runs

[robust locust]

i tried installing it but the lua open library doesnt work

[bronze yoke]

you don't need to do all that stuff anymore, i put it on the addon manager

[robust locust]

i ran the game and it crashed on load

[bronze yoke]

instructions here

[robust locust]

it keeps showing this when i click it

[bronze yoke]

weird as hell, never seen anything like that

[robust locust]

that's not good 🫠

[bronze yoke]

i can't see why your function wouldn't work, it looks like a perfectly valid oncreate function - at the very least it has absolutely no reason to crash the game

[robust locust]

i took the lua file out and the game ran, but with it in... it crashes. Something in there is killing it 😦

do I need to import Base?

[bronze yoke]

nah

at least not inherently, if your recipe uses base items you might need to unless you reference them by full type

[robust locust]

Result:addItems() or something like that instead

should I try ?

[cedar ingot]

For a new item, all the attributes is a list and that's how we make new weapons or whatever?

[thick karma]

Did you copy-paste anything into that file? Sometimes you'll end up copying invisible characters that way that can really bork a file

E.g. event handler templates

I've copy-pasted those before and gotten bad results

[robust locust]

no, i typed it out whilst watching dried-meat tutorial on YT

[thick karma]

Did you post the file that prevents game from starting somewhere here?

Letting people read the whole file might be necessary

Also did you check console.txt after crash?

Sometimes an error makes it there right before crash

[robust locust]

i posted the only code in there...

[thick karma]

But gotta check before you reload game

[robust locust]

no I didnt check console file... had to restart as it boinked my entire pc

[thick karma]

Whaaa

[robust locust]

yea, the icons in the taskbar wouldnt go, and shit wasnt closing all of a sudden

I removed the code file and reloaded the game, and all worked again

[thick karma]

Sure doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard of PZ doing

[robust locust]

as far as i can tell, it's only a simple function that i wrote

[thick karma]

Did you try reinserting code file after restarting?

To confirm it causes that outcome?

And not a coincidence?

[robust locust]

I had it in there and it crashed... removed it and it was fine... added it back in and it crashed... restarted pc and removed the file and all was good again

[thick karma]

Oof

Hmm

[robust locust]

does the line in recipe script that calls that function have to be there, or will that cause a problem?

[thick karma]

Without it no function gets called afaik

[final raptor]

Is there a way to debug player mod data the way globalmoddata works? I am tired of console logging 🥵🥵

[thick karma]

Debug how

[final raptor]

See the values for each key of each mod

[robust locust]

im looking forward to the debugger they showed off on the latest update

[thick karma]

Mmm... Not sure how easily. I have a function for quickly grabbing all keys but not values

You could definitely write a loop

[final raptor]

Can I add a button to the debug "dev" tab? Or is that a private api

[thick karma]

Never tried but if I wanted to I would use visible words to find translation variables, and use those variables to try to find a Lua file for the debug window UI

Idk what file it is or whether it's even Lua

[mellow frigate]

yes I implemented it with TchernoLib https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986578314.

See 3rd point of UI in description

[thick karma]

\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\client\DebugUIs\LuaThreadWindow.lua
and
\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\client\DebugUIs\LuaDebugger.lua

May be that file

Idk

[bronze yoke]

you just need any generic table dumping function, nothing special about mod data

[thick karma]

(I think he's so tired of typing into console he wants to make a button if I'm not misunderstanding?)

[thick karma]

You could probably decorate one of these to add a button but I think it's easier to just use the debug console than make a whole UI for what you want... @final raptor

[thick karma]

Where did you save this file

[bronze yoke]

the debugger screenshot shows server/HGWHRecipeCodes.lua

[thick karma]

Oh

Hmm

@final raptor

BS = {}

BS.maxSafeDepth = 7

BS.reveal = function(someTable, verbose, depth, prefix, found)

    if not (someTable and type(someTable) == "table") then return "" end

    found = found or {}

    if found[someTable] then return "" else found[someTable] = true end

    prefix = prefix or ""

    depth = depth or BS.maxSafeDepth

    if depth > BS.maxSafeDepth then depth = BS.maxSafeDepth elseif depth < 0 then return "" end

    local result = ""
    
    for key, value in pairs(someTable) do
        result = result .. "\n" .. prefix .. tostring(key)
        if verbose then
            local subresult = BS.reveal(value, verbose, depth - 1, prefix .. "--", found)
            if subresult then result = result .. subresult end
        end
    end

    if prefix == "" then
        Clipboard.setClipboard(result)
        print(result)
    end

    return result

end

@final raptor I use this to dump keys to my clipboard to read them in an editor. You could easily edit result line to include tostring(value) and see what's up.

[thick karma]

Then just call BS.reveal(getPlayer():getModData()) from debug console and paste results to somewhere worthy of reading them.

[thick karma]

Oh that's a thing?

Well sheeit

[robust locust]

I saved in lua/server

[thick karma]

Yeah tmk that's where you need to be... I dunno that's odd. I would crash it one more time and send us the console.txt

Might have to let your computer crash, too, but console.txt should be there when you restart

[robust locust]

ok, i'll give her a quick hug and tell her it's gonna be ok before i do 😄

[mellow frigate]

yes, with autorefresh as on option (CPUheavy). automatically available with TchernoLib https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2986578314

[thick karma]

Savagery

[mellow frigate]

it was required because vanilla refresh moves back the scrolling to the top and it was anoying

[thick karma]

Bahahaha

[bronze yoke]

can it collapse/fold tables?

[thick karma]

On a serious note, Tchernobill, can you stop releasing so many cool mods that I feel absolutely compelled to provide gamepad support?

Haha I just spotted Roll; killin me over here man.

lol I have to have that.

[robust locust]

It worked!!! 😄
My game didn't crash and it gave me back what I wanted!!

[thick karma]

lol!

I didn't think anything sounded wrong...

[robust locust]

I didnt do anything differently.... put the file back and it loaded... then I added the line in the reciped, loaded and it worked!

I swear computers are already sentient and they're messing with my head 😄 🫠

[thick karma]

I mean it would make sense if their first instinct upon becoming sentient is to troll people

[robust locust]

thanks all the same, much appreciated!

[mellow frigate]

No, but great idea !

[thick karma]

lol receives thanks for saying "try running it"

[robust locust]

if they're learning from the internet, they know to troll and take feet pics...

[final raptor]

Thank you chernolib!!

[fathom sapphire]

I know this is probably obv but I'm very new to lua, and I don't understand why this isn't working.
I looked for an example in the files and found ISFastTeleportMove that looks the same, but when i press the g key it does not log anything to the console
input.lua -
OnKeyPress = {}

OnKeyPress.log = function()
print("G IS PRESSED")
end

OnKeyPress.OnKeyStartPressed = function(key)
local player = getPlayer()
if player ~= nil then
if key == 71 then
OnKeyPress.log()
end
end
end

Events.OnKeyStartPressed.Add(OnKeyPress.OnKeyStartPressed)

I do have it in the ModName/media/lua/shared folder if that is important as well

[thick karma]

I would be careful about highly generic root level names for files (e.g., input.lua) and common names for global modules (OnKeyPress), because it'll increase risk of conflict with other mods. Assuming nothing in vanilla or another mod has prevented your file from being read properly, I would verify it exists in the game at all by firing print(OnKeyPress and OnKeyPress.OnKeyStartPressed) in the debug console.

If it exists I would try logging every key instead of just logging G to make sure the key event even fires

[fathom sapphire]

When looking in it, it does show a "classstack 55" for the ISFastTeleportMove, but not one for the newly created one. On the right it shows all the lua files and input thankfully is the only one named input, and does show up there

If that helps

[thick karma]

It's also possible you need key signals in client. I'm not on PC right now so I cannot confirm, but if the process depends on files that are loaded in client, you could be attempting to use it before it's ready.

[fathom sapphire]

Oh i thought shared was just client and server

[thick karma]

shared means that it loads on client and server, yes, but it does not eliminate the importance of load order.

Since both client and server use shared, it logically loads first.

If you try doing things in shared as soon as a file loads that depend on things found in client, they won't work, because client hasn't loaded yet.

client loads after shared

[fathom sapphire]

But if i put it in client will it still be able to print to the console?

[thick karma]

Yes, the console to which you print is the client console.

The debug console in game shows clientside messages

Not serverside ones.

[fathom sapphire]

So i tried it and got
closure 0x2071871637

[fathom sapphire]

I see

[thick karma]

Then the function does exist.

I would try removing 71 condition

Or perhaps putting key command in client; unsure

Just a guess

The code doesn't look wrong but I could be overlooking something

Half busy sorta

Watching stuff with friend online

[fathom sapphire]

Ah thats fair, I appreciate any and all help, I couldn't find anything about simple stuff like this online

[thick karma]

It exists but you really gotta dig and ask the perfect questions like you're in I, Robot

https://gist.github.com/Konijima/7e6bd1adb6f69444e7b620965a611b74

That's a good reminder link to visit

For this detail

[fathom sapphire]

Ah, it was the 71

[thick karma]

Keyboard.getKeyName(key) iirc

Or just use if key == Keyboard.KEY_G maybe

It's been awhile since I mapped keys

[thick karma]

https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/org/lwjglx/input/Keyboard.html

Keyboard is exposed you can def use it globally

[vital karma]

Are Global variables able to passed through to other Lua files? Like let's say I wanted to make a file that only updates and declares variables. Is that able to be used by other files?

[thick karma]

Yes but it's better practice to use a local module and return it.

In DirectoryName/NomOptions.lua:

local NomOptions = {}

NomOptions.one = true
NomOptions.foo = "bar"

return NomOptions

[vital karma]

And that's the same with functions right?

[thick karma]

Yes

In DirectoryName/ThingThatNeedsOptions.lua:

local NomOptions = require("DirectoryName/NomOptions")

-- Can now call NomOptions.whatever.
-- Adding to it will be registered in every file that references NomOptions.

Changed Package to Directory above to be clearer

[thick karma]

☝️

[vital karma]

thank you!

[thick karma]

It's passed by reference

You can declare in A, import A in B, import A in C, add functions in C, and call them in B