mod_development

[sour island]

I kind of gave up on scripts

My mod that converts a bunch of items into weapons just uses Lua and doParam

[red tiger]

Template Vehicle IMO is an incomplete idea put into production.

[sour island]

I made it use a giant table with templates that get applied first before getting other variables

[ancient grail]

Hard to read

[sour island]

afaik it's the same concept as I described - I just couldn't figure out all the syntax

file 1 is read, then whatever else you defined gets applied over it

[red tiger]

So it's a

/// <reference:..>

[sour island]

I think what I'd have done differently (or maybe it is possible but I couldn't get the syntax right) is that 1 vehicle could be a template for another. As I understood templates had to be kind of standalone

[red tiger]

template wraps VehicleScript

I do the same in my API.

import { VehicleScript } from './VehicleScript';

/**
 * @author Jab
 */
export class VehicleTemplateScript extends VehicleScript {
    get label(): string {
        return 'template vehicle';
    }
}

Well @sour island If you want to form some kind of focus group with me on discussing ways that ZedScript could be better for vehicles, I'm for it.

I'm going to look at writing a language that will compile to ZedScript and ideas for things like vehicles would be welcome.

[sour island]

I'm a bit strapped for time as of late - I will say if by the end it is easier to make cleaner vehicle scripts then you did great

[red tiger]

=). I think the first step is to group things like wheels, windows, doors, and other parts as embedded groups as a whole and not redundantly placed wherever in the vehicle object.

[unreal pawn]

Insurgent.Vest_BulletArmyInsurgent, Insurgent.Hat_ArmyInsurgent, Insurgent.Hat_GasMaskInsurgent, Insurgent.Hat_BeretArmyInsurgent, Insurgent.Jacket_ArmyInsurgent, Insurgent.Trousers_Insurgent, Insurgent.Bag_ALICEpack_Insurgent, Insurgent.Gloves_LongInsurgent, Insurgent.Gloves_FingerlessInsurgent

[ancient grail]

Wrong channel
#mod_support

Just so you know

What the actual F* just happened

[sour island]

?

[ancient grail]

Vs code has an extension

O damn i was replying to old posts . My mobile is cursed

Ah cuz i clicked some reply thing

Lol

[ancient grail]

Does that 0 happen to pz lua too?

When you use pairs

[bronze yoke]

idk exactly what happens in which versions of lua but pairs is not meant to give a consistent order

[sour island]

pairs should be consistent if the keys are the assumed default I thought

i.e.: 1, 2, 3, in order

using non-numeric keys or 0 to negative is kind of like riding the fence

Lua is so freeform is just kind of vibes with it

Weirdly 3 is getting lost with the non-numerics, so I have ot assume internally Lua is grabbing the next key to see if it's in order

👁️ 👄 👁️

[ancient grail]

[sour island]

I guess it just hates odd numbers

[bronze yoke]

i think pairs usually does go ordered when the indices are but it's never meant to guarantee anything like that

[sour island]

I understood it was 🤷‍♂️

[ancient grail]

Wtf lol
But if you run it multiple times it print same order?

[bronze yoke]

(and if your indices are ordered just use a for loop)

[sour island]

With ordered-numerics is the same -- I'm not sure why the last one being odd causes it to get lost

[ancient grail]

Whats faster in terms of benchmark

[sour island]

But it's highly advisable to not mix key behaviors and expect normal behavior

[bronze yoke]

for loop

[ancient grail]

Ok gotcha

[sour island]

This could be useful if you're limited to 1 table - but outside of that doing this is mostly for giggles

Note # still works but only for the numeric

[worldly olive]

Is someone aware if the spriteName of a tree should change based on the sprite it is currently using? The three with or without snow is returning the same spriteName :

[sour island]

snow is probably an overlay

[worldly olive]

Almost one hour reviewing tree by tree sprite with snow in the pack viewer to have this table:

WinterTreesDefinitions = {
"e_americanhollyJUMBO_1_2",
"e_americanhollyJUMBO_1_3",

"e_americanlindenJUMBO_1_2",
"e_americanlindenJUMBO_1_3",

"e_canadianhemlockJUMBO_1_2",
"e_canadianhemlockJUMBO_1_3",

"e_carolinasilverbellJUMBO_1_2",
"e_carolinasilverbellJUMBO_1_3",

"e_cockspurhawthornJUMBO_1_2",
"e_cockspurhawthornJUMBO_1_3",

"e_virginiapineJUMBO_1_2",
"e_virginiapineJUMBO_1_3",

"e_yellowwoodJUMBO_1_2",
"e_yellowwoodJUMBO_1_3",

"dogwoodJUMBO_1_2",
"dogwoodJUMBO_1_3",

"e_easternredbudJUMBO_1_2",
"e_easternredbudJUMBO_1_3",

"redmapleJUMBO_1_2",
"redmapleJUMBO_1_3",

"riverbirchJUMBO_1_2",
"riverbirchJUMBO_1_3",

}

And in the game I just found the 1_0 and 1_1

[sour island]

there's separate sprites for snow covered and not?

[worldly olive]

Look at the names

I assumed yes

But looks like nope, the game is handling them somehow different

[sour island]

zombie/erosion/categories/NatureTrees.java seems to do some checks

also has references to an ErosionIceQueen

this is where it might be swapping the sprite

What are you using to get the spritename?

[worldly olive]

local spriteName = isoTree:getSprite():getName();
print("spriteName: " .. spriteName)

Checking those two files

Hope I get something useful

[sour island]

I know erosion also uses attachedsprites and overlays

But that wouldn't really make sense as the leaves of the other tree would show

[worldly olive]

I think that I will handle this based on world temperature, will be easier probably

[hot patrol]

are there any guides to create an accupation with special trait?

[rancid panther]

the easiest way i think would be to use profession framework, but it would still have some limitations i think. it has support for making special traits tho

without it, as long as you make the occupation and make the trait, then it is easy to just make it exclusive to the occupation

[wide oar]

<outfitManager>

    <m_MaleOutfits>
        <m_Name>Goblin Slayer</m_Name>
        <m_Guid>6ff05a3c-c20a-4807-a428-b5bcda17b623</m_Guid>
        <m_Top>false</m_Top>
        <m_Pants>false</m_Pants>
        <m_AllowPantsHue>false</m_AllowPantsHue>
        <m_AllowTopTint>false</m_AllowTopTint>
        <m_AllowTShirtDecal>false</m_AllowTShirtDecal>
        <m_items>
            <itemGUID>69bbbe30-cd3f-49e0-a5ca-cdf21ddfe4ba</itemGUID>
        </m_items>
    </m_MaleOutfits>
<m_MaleOutfits>
        <m_Name>Deidara</m_Name>
        <m_Guid>fb83e37f-ad01-4130-9bc1-8c2257947fd6</m_Guid>
        <m_Top>false</m_Top>
        <m_Pants>false</m_Pants>
        <m_AllowPantsHue>false</m_AllowPantsHue>
        <m_AllowTopTint>false</m_AllowTopTint>
        <m_AllowTShirtDecal>false</m_AllowTShirtDecal>
        <m_items>
            <itemGUID>6926ed0b-b251-4253-abca-2a5813fee67c</itemGUID>
        </m_items>
    </m_MaleOutfits>
    <m_MaleOutfits>
        <m_Name>Itachi</m_Name>
        <m_Guid>3efece14-819b-47b1-ac1e-804c8132ffc6</m_Guid>
        <m_Top>false</m_Top>
        <m_Pants>false</m_Pants>
        <m_AllowPantsHue>false</m_AllowPantsHue>
        <m_AllowTopTint>false</m_AllowTopTint>
        <m_AllowTShirtDecal>false</m_AllowTShirtDecal>
        <m_items>
            <itemGUID>196693e2-19c9-4e6c-a00e-a44bb608d22f</itemGUID>
        </m_items>
    </m_MaleOutfits>
</outfitManager> ```

can someone help me understand why my outfits arent appearing in game

i cant select them in the character screen

the itemGUID's (ignore deidara and itachi) are the same as the GUID in clothingItems

[hot patrol]

yrying that now. I'm using the fursuiter mod as a base since it does most of the things I want out of mine

plus it's goofy

[rancid panther]

i have a furry trait on my mod too 🤣

[hot patrol]

I'm trying to make an otaku profession that spawns you in neckbeard attire and with a dakimakura. and gives you a special "studied the blade" trait that ups your long blade skill and gives you a nearly broken "mall Katana"

This is my WIP prof description "Never had a job, dwells inside of their mothers basement, lives and breathes anime and hentai and collects the most degenerate material known to man. Some would say your way of life makes being undead preferable."

thoughts?

[rancid panther]

i dont think you can force enable certain facial hair unless it is a clothing option from a mod, like how authentic Z has wigs

if you have that then it sounds good

[hot patrol]

oh I just meant neckbeard as in the outfit choice. not actually spawning with a neckbeard

lol

[rancid panther]

ah

[hot patrol]

I meant more a fedora, trench coat and fingerless gloves

[rancid panther]

well that seems easily doable with profession framework, since the trait only gives you skill points and an item.

i thought you meant a trait with special features

[sour island]

Anyone familiar with tracking if the player enters/exit aiming?

rather not do onplayerupdate

[hot patrol]

the traits special feature is pretty much just the long blade xp skill and the katana spawn. If you have any suggestions I am open to them

[bronze yoke]

maybe onkeypressed?

[rancid panther]

i think that's a good place to start. if you want to make anything special, you could try making them gain more happiness from reading comic books or something, as a challenge to urself once the easy parts are done

[hot patrol]

oh now that you mention that I do have some code that makes you gain comfort when you have a dakimakura. I planned to tie that to the profession

[rancid panther]

oh so u already have some stuff? u just need to make it as an occupation/trait?

[hot patrol]

yep

[rancid panther]

local burglar = ProfessionFactory.addProfession("burglar", getText("UI_prof_Burglar"), "profession_burglar2", -6);
    burglar:addXPBoost(Perks.Nimble, 2)
    burglar:addXPBoost(Perks.Sneak, 2)
    burglar:addXPBoost(Perks.Lightfoot, 2)
    burglar:addFreeTrait("Burglar");

TraitFactory.addTrait("Burglar", getText("UI_prof_Burglar"), 0, getText("UI_trait_BurglarDesc"), true);

[jaunty marten]

even for table where key are number lua can't guarantee that with pairs loop u will get numbers in ascending or any other order due to lua tables optimisation and how it stored them in memory. so next function (pairs internally uses next) it will just return next k,v that will found in memory

[rancid panther]

in vanilla, you still need a separate function to add starting items, starting clothes, and any special effects

in profession framework it is handled pretty well in one place for the occupation and in one place for the trait, depending on how complex the trait effects you wanna make are

[hot patrol]

How would I spawn in an item with low condition using prof framework?

so like a katana with like 3 hits before broken

[wide oar]

nvm ur supposed to use fileguidtable item guids in clothing.xml not the clothingitem guids

[rancid panther]

im not sure. if that's the case, you might want to go without it. i'd probably make my weapons start with lower condition too if i knew how to

[hot patrol]

hmmm, damn.

[rancid panther]

but using the events feature with profession framework it is probably possible

i just have never been able to get it to work and ended up making some things without using profession framework, and some things with

should have no problems like that, with how nicely profession framework is handled

and might be better so you can add compatibility with the daki mod

[hot patrol]

well this is going to be part of the daki mod.

[rancid panther]

ohh

you made the daki mod?

[hot patrol]

sure did

kinda

mostly the idea

got a lot of help with the rest

[rancid panther]

wow!

then i think you should just make it without using profession framework, as it will mess with other servers that use the mod probably

[hot patrol]

Yep I am working on getting it updated to improve a few gripes I have with it plus add a few more features.

[rancid panther]

i have p much done nothing but make traits so far in my modding experience so far

[hot patrol]

probably not a bad idea but I hardly know what I'm doing with it so I would be lost without it. I'm probably going to have to just comission this bit out as well, I try to do some things on my own but i'm really no modder 😅

[rancid panther]

it's really easy, i'll just give you some of the functions you need to use

here's an old sample of how i made a furry trait start with skills and items before i moved to profession framework

[hot patrol]

well my idea was for it to be a profession that gives you an exclusive trait

[rancid panther]

yea, you make the profession and trait separately

[hot patrol]

ah

[rancid panther]

for a profession you can do the same thing p much but using ProfessionFactory.addProfession

then you can use addFreeTrait

for a profession exclusive trait, you need to make it cost 0 and set the thing at the end to true

profession framework also tells you how things would be done in vanilla, so i'd look at that too, even if ur not gonna use it

this would be done in shared/Definitions/

[hot patrol]

alright, good call.

I see addXPBoost but how do I also just add a level. So like 2 levels in long blade plus a 1 XP boost

[rancid panther]

if you wanna do that then you need to make them gain 1 level on spawn and 1 level on creation

i think more traits has a trait that gives u maintenance levels on spawn but not in the character creation menu

[sour island]

I was curious about this and did a test.
Afaik numeric keys that are in order should always return in order using pairs

[hot patrol]

alright. I'll have to put a bookmark on this. Gotta get some sleep before work. Thanks for your help. I'll crack at it some more tomorrow but I'm thinking this is beyond my skill level.

[rancid panther]

kk. good luck!

[hot patrol]

[rancid panther]

im a complete beginner at modding too, but making traits is not too hard

[hot patrol]

maybe not the process itself but I don't know anything about lua

😅

[sour island]

The results show a matching n and k(of t) 500 times

[rancid panther]

can i use debug mode to force a function to be performed without its requirements being met?

like the whole function

[jaunty marten]

yeah, it will work fine with numbers in a strict order n, n+1, n+2, n+3...

[sour island]

Yeah, that's all I was saying -- what I guess is weird/new to me is that you can blend the styles of keys

but I guess internally pairs is looking for [1] first then scanning for n+1

non numeric keys end up at the end of the list with out any order expected

This all started cause someone found [0] used in superbsurvivors lol

Wait, what did I do wrong

This should have came back with a jumble of 789, no?

[jaunty marten]

did mistake

works only with 1, 2, 3, 4 .. n

[jaunty marten]

sometimes [0] uses to save there len of tbl
but idk for what use it cos # is faster anyway

[jaunty marten]

u can don't think about it, just accept that next is a random due to lua table optimisation

[sour island]

but the print for the tests is random

am I storing the results wrong?

[jaunty marten]

it's correct output

[sour island]

oh, the entries are coming back out of order but ... not if it is within the same for loop

that's peculiar as hell

[jaunty marten]

wdym not if it is within the same for loop?

[sour island]

My best guess is because the for is inside of another for it's maintaining the order?

abc varies at 1 2 and 3

but within each test it's the same for all 5000 runs

[jaunty marten]

it's just the random order so u just 5000 times iterate all table and add +1 each time

u adding value but it won't change the memory address

so pairs be in random order but memory address of tables didn't changed

lua didn't change address of table just for nothing

[sour island]

n is just supposed to count each entry not really be concerned with an entry

my expectation was each new pair call would have a different n for k..v

so the results would be
1_abcabc 800+
2_abcabc 800+
3_abcabc 800+
1_xyz 800+
etc

or do you mean memory within a function

and not the key

[frank elbow]

pairs does not guarantee any order by definition, but some implementations may end up preserving some sort of order. Some things can lead to table order getting wonky-fied, like adding a key

Something to do with the table hash

[jaunty marten]

local t = {...} > random order but now is "static" cos keys already got their memory address and it won't be changed after

for k,v in pairs(t) > always will same order due to "static"

[sour island]

ah

[jaunty marten]

single way to make it in order it's keys 1, 2, 3 .. n in a strict order. 2, 3 .. n already won't work

[small topaz]

How are the map corrdinates calculated? Sometimes, they have a formal like x = 10951, y = 9490 In other cases, you have smth like cellX = 36, cellY = 31, x = 151, y = 190 How are those data related to each other? And is there a way to see those "cell-coordiantes" in game (in debug mode ofc)?

Edit: Just found out what happens.

[wooden lodge]

Does anyone know how to mod/edit the permission levels for Observer Moderator etc.

Like, how does one add a new permission level, rename or adjust their rights?

For example, I want to make Observers be able to use the "adduser" command ingame. Any ideas?

[bronze yoke]

permission levels are totally hardcoded

[red tiger]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-hi.

Falling asleep at the speed of syrup.

[rancid panther]

you could try creating a dummy admin rerouting command where players with a certain role can send a command to the admin that will automatically perform that command or something

kinda like how discord servers have bots with the admin role

[hollow current]

Is there a way to return the current client language of the player?

I thought of a way by adding your usual translation files, each file has for example a currentLanguage with the value of corresponding language, and using getText(currentLanguage) to return the current language. Was wondering if there's a more direct way though

[bronze yoke]

getCore():getOptionLanguageName()

[hollow current]

oh lovely

Thanks!

[wooden lodge]

Ah shiii, how would I even start

[rancid panther]

not sure, but since permissions are hard coded this is the only way i can see it being done

[hot badge]

How difficult would it be to make a mod that replaces the death sound with MORTIS from Faith? And how would I go about it?

[true vault]

Have you tried simply looking at how it's done with other mods that do the same thing (with different audio)? There's several of them on the workshop; simply sub to one, and look at the mods files.

[hot badge]

Yes but I'm still trying to navigate the files to find zomboid

nevermind

I found it

Now I just need to navigate this list for the mod I just installed

Wowee

[true vault]

The folder names, are the mod ID.

[hot badge]

And how do I get the mod ID? The URL?

[true vault]

mhm; and most workshop items also have the ID listed at the bottom of the description too

[hot badge]

Well, the mod ID was supposedly 2915074844& but that just leads me to ModTemplate, which is... strange

[true vault]

That's... not the mod ID then.

What mod are you using as reference?

[hot badge]

That's what it says on the mod page

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2915074844&searchtext=death+sound

I directly copied the ID from the bottom of the page

[true vault]

Hmm, yep that's the ID then..

[bronze yoke]

if it takes you to a modtemplate, they just didn't rename the folder

[hot badge]

Modder just forgot-

Yeah what she said

[bronze yoke]

she ^^

[hot badge]

She, sorry

Looks like they just have the mod's icon, title and description in the folder, then a wav file of the sound with a really basic script, so it seems pretty trivial

Thanks guys

How do I actually upload this to the workshop? Like how do I format it

[hot badge]

Hey can I get one last bit of help from you? I don't know how to format the files so that I can theoretically upload it

(I'm making this for someone else to upload, but they don't know what to do and neither do I)

[rancid panther]

you already made the mod right? just not the part for workshop?

[hot badge]

Yeah

I have the script and mod working, just need to get it into format for workshop

[rancid panther]

User > Zomboid > Workshop > YourWorkshopFolder
in this folder you should have preview.png and workshop.txt and a folder named Contents
Contents > Mods > YourModFolder

ModTemplate shows the exact way you should do it. just copy it and replace the mod contents with your mod folder

and change the preview and workshop.txt to your mod preview and details

[hot badge]

Wait hold on I forgot something

[rancid panther]

u should rename those folders to actual relevant names to your mod

[hot badge]

I will make sure to do that, I forgot to add the contents folder when I sent that link so one sec

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gCY804kE3UJkNr7bSZqRRDGIUYPU8lcm?usp=sharing

[hot badge]

Fixed, how's that look?

[rancid panther]

looks good. just change the workshop.txt to fit the proper formatting of a workshop file

i think when you try to upload it, it will just tell you to fill that in yourself and it'll automatically update the .txt file

it'll ask for a title, a description, visibility, and tags

[hot badge]

Alright, now where do I actually upload this bad boy?

I may not be able to, but I can at the very least have someone else do it

[rancid panther]

you put it in your workshop folder and go in game and select the workshop option in the main menu

then click upload

[hot badge]

Wow that's easy

[rancid panther]

yep

[hot badge]

The workshop folder in common/projectzomboid, right? Not the big one with all the downloaded content

[rancid panther]

and when ur uploading u can fill in the Title, Details, etc

no

Users/Zomboid

[hot badge]

Uhh

[rancid panther]

Users/YourUserName/Zomboid

[hot badge]

Found it

But thank you

[rancid panther]

np

[hot badge]

Alright so I just paste it here, click workshop, then upload?

[rancid panther]

yep

[hot badge]

Awesome, will try now

[rancid panther]

you can check if your folder matches the ModTemplate folder

[hot badge]

Seems to

If I can't upload it I guess I'll just send it in chat for someone else to do it

[rancid panther]

no reason for you to be unable to upload it. if you cant do it someone else will walk you through it

u already did 99% of the work. no reason for someone to take the credit

[hot badge]

I caught a community ban because I pissed off a community mod who was the mod of 3 different game hubs, he banned me from all 3 and steam support said that technically because he's the mod he can do whatever he wants on those hubs, so I have to wait until May to do most things

I assume the workshop is included

[rancid panther]

for zomboid?

[hot badge]

No, but a community ban is global for steam

Interesting problem, it says that the preview png could not be loaded, but when I click on it, it opens fine

Could it be the wrong image size?

[rancid panther]

it needs to be the right size

[hot badge]

What size is that?

[rancid panther]

256x256

[hot badge]

Thank ya

[rancid panther]

np

congratulations on your first mod

[hot badge]

I cannot upload it, so I'm just going to share it with the person I made it for

[rancid panther]

alright

complaint that my mod doesnt give enough free points

[bronze yoke]

LOL?

[zinc pilot]

ew

[rancid panther]

ofc i considered that some ppl would be using my mod with immune mods and cures and stuff, which is why it is only worth 10 points

[zinc pilot]

quick question, how do you pass to an Event the instance of an object?

local function HandlePushOption(_, handler, direction)
    handler:startPushingVehicle(direction)
    Events.OnTick.Add(handler.updateVehiclePosition)

end

Handler is an instanced object, but when it gets called through the OnTick.Add it seems it's not getting the instance itself

[rancid panther]

i have no knowledge in this subject. hope u get the answer soon!

[bronze yoke]

Events.OnTick.Add(function() handler:updateVehiclePosition() end)

[fast galleon]

https://github.com/Poltergeistzx/zomboid-ladders
Can you test this ladders update from me and Burryaga?

[hot badge]

Lol why the heck don't they just increase points manually?

[rancid panther]

i agree. they might as well if they want free points anyways

just thought it was funny

also i didnt realize there actually was another bitten mod.

i swore there was but couldnt find it cuz they dont have bitten or bite anywhere in the name or description

[fast galleon]

I use
local self = class.instance
the other way is add this function to events
Add(function()class.instance:doStuff() end)

oh Albion answered

[zinc pilot]

Thank you

[zinc pilot]

and thank you, but I wanna steer away from anon functions

about that, I was wondering, if I wanted to remove that event, how would I do it? I'm referring to the anon function one

[fast galleon]

that's impossible. You need to at least make a local reference.

[zinc pilot]

I'll keep steering away from them then

thanks again

[fast galleon]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_Functions
see the end here

[bright atlas]

Would anybody want a mod that lets you create armored cars, mad max style?

Execution is pretty simple but I can't make 3d assets

I would appreciate if someone could point me to free armored car or tank assets

I really like the idea of turning a car into a giant bulldozer with scrap metal to massacre hordes

Parts that increase the amount of damage you do when ramming into zombies, durability, multihit bumpers...

Equipping things like machine guns to the back of trucks

Would be fun playing with zombies on insane mode

[gaunt meteor]

anyone know where the trait functions for vanilla are? 🙂

[rancid panther]

MainCreationMethods.lua

[gaunt meteor]

not that one

im seeking the trait functions (e.g. where it defines what a trait does)

[rancid panther]

like how burglar can open windows easier?

[gaunt meteor]

yeah ^^

i have looked through client folder i think im blind

[rancid panther]

they can be anywhere between client, server, or shared

[gaunt meteor]

oh, thank you

[rancid panther]

i think some are hardcoded in java or scattered around multiple files

[wispy basalt]

I've been thinking about making a mod to nerf tall fence climbing so that whenever you climb over a tall fence your character goes slower and has a higher chance of falling

What file would I need to edit?

[chrome egret]

Good morning all

@fast galleon did you get a chance to look at those notes on the inventory transfer action issue?

[warm prawn]

I tried to get one of my custom mods working (The beginning of a project), but it wouldn't run. So I tried again with an example mod. Not working. For some reason, it's like my mods just simply don't run. I've enabled them in general and for my modding test world, but I can't get my mods to work. Not even a simple print("Loaded").

I put my mod structure as following

Typicxl
|Zomboid
  |mods
    |modname
      |media
      |-|lua
      |- -|client
      |- - -|script.lua
      |mod.info

Nothing loads in the command console.
I'm running in debug mode.

[fast galleon]

can you tell me which files has the functions that you mention?

You said it's on server but I don't see it.

[warm prawn]

By the way, good morning.

[chrome egret]

How are you running your mod?

[warm prawn]

I'm running it directly by enabling it on both my mods menu, and the server's loaded mods.

[chrome egret]

Dedicated server or locally hosting?

[warm prawn]

Right now, locally hosting.

[fast galleon]

if you hook to transfer action maybe you need to check that the item was actually transferred, I'm speculating here

[warm prawn]

It doesn't work even on singleplayer.

[chrome egret]

In my mod I start from ItemSearchPanel, which creates a SearchInventoryAction or SearchRoomContainerAction. When the searched item is found in either of these, they'll spawn an ISInventoryTransferAction (if the player has selected to take the item). ISInventoryTransferAction contains the doActionAnim function which calls the global createItemTransaction (which defers to ItemTransactionManager.createItemTransaction). Is that what you were looking for?

[chrome egret]

Is your script.lua file short enough that you can paste it here in full?

[warm prawn]

Yeah, it's a very simple print("Loaded") script.

[fast galleon]

I'm a little busy to analyze more that a few lines, involving multiple functions.

[chrome egret]

Nbd

[chrome egret]

When you start the game, is there anything in the lower-right hand corner indicating Lua errors?

[warm prawn]

No, just reload lua.

And 2 other small buttons.

But they're default.

[chrome egret]

Right, but when you load the world it goes to a black screen right?

Usually if there are Lua errors, a red box will appear in the lower-right corner of the screen

[warm prawn]

It does the intro, then loads the world.

[warm prawn]

I'll try.

Thanks for helping, by the way.

[chrome egret]

Sure thing. It can be hard to get started.

[warm prawn]

I'm gonna have a rough time if I can't even get a script to work, huh?

[chrome egret]

You'll get there!

So in console.txt I have some very basic lines that the game outputs about loading mods

[warm prawn]

Hope so! Anyways, no red bpx/

[chrome egret]

LOG  : Mod         , 1679255735072> 0> refusing to list examplemod
LOG  : Mod         , 1679255735072> 0> loading ItemSearcher

Can you search for "loading" and see if your mod comes up by name?

[warm prawn]

Does console.txt just load from the command console?

[chrome egret]

Mmm not usually

You can find it under *\Zomboid\console.txt

[warm prawn]

Alright, then it's worth looking,

Yes, it found loading mod

I confused myself for a moment.

Sorry.

[chrome egret]

np

If you scroll down the file from that spot, do you see any stack traces?

[warm prawn]

I don't believe so.

No.

Does this have anything to do with anything?
LOG : General , 1679313888101> MISSING in SettingsTable: Mods

[chrome egret]

doubtful

[warm prawn]

Okay.

Otherwise, no, basically nothing.

[chrome egret]

Let's try something else. Wrap your test print in a function like:

function testPrint()
   print("[Your Mod Name Here] - Things are happening");
end

Then add a line at the bottom of the file:
Events.OnGameBoot.Add(testPrint);

[warm prawn]

Alright.

[chrome egret]

Just to see if things are happening 🙂

[warm prawn]

Never had such trouble developing a mod before.

Should I load my save to test the function?

[chrome egret]

I usually load singleplayer if possible since it's so much faster

[warm prawn]

I do, too.

[chrome egret]

Same with launching the game in -nosteam mode

[warm prawn]

Would it show the print in the command console?

[chrome egret]

It'll happen before you get in the game, so checking console.txt is likely easiest

I just keep a continual tail of that file running while developing

[warm prawn]

Okay.

This is just part of the development process, I guess. Running and tweaking till it works.

[chrome egret]

Right. Either it's working or there is some hangup keeping it from engaging, and if it's the latter it's a bit of a painstaking process to figure out where and what it could be.

[warm prawn]

It printed properly.

So the code IS working.

I'm gonna give a script, and I want you to tell me if I did it correctly.

function onKeyDown(key)
if key == Keyboard.KEY_APOSTROPHE then
local player = getSpecificPlayer(0)
player:Say("Hello")
end
end

[chrome egret]

That's sort of similar to how I have Item Searcher's UI bound

https://github.com/TheCrimsonKing92/pz-item-searcher/blob/master/media/lua/client/ItemSearchPanel.lua#L614-L629

[warm prawn]

Interesting.

[chrome egret]

But if you look at line 632 I have it bound to an event

[warm prawn]

Alright.

[odd fjord]

not sure if this type of question is allowed here, but i'll shoot my shot. sorry in advance!

is there any item in game that checks if it's in the players inventory? if yes, what is it? if no, how do i do that?

[chrome egret]

What do you mean the item checks that it's in the player's inventory?

[odd fjord]

i wanna make a mod wherein the first time a player grabs the modded item, puts it in their inventory, it'll do something only that one time and never again.

[chrome egret]

Item Searcher is updated! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789003239

• Added search modes: https://github.com/TheCrimsonKing92/pz-item-searcher/issues/10
• Fixed Take Item functionality in multiplayer

[warm prawn]

Did you code this?

[odd fjord]

its like, i want to make a boolean. where if the player grabs item for the first time, it'll check true

[chrome egret]

I think this type of effect is usually accomplished by adding a new function to be evaluated at arbitrary times (each tick, each minute) by an event and removing it when it's not longer necessary.

[chrome egret]

Yes, ItemSearcher is my mod.

[warm prawn]

Where did you even start?

[odd fjord]

alright thankyou!

[chrome egret]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding and the associated resources, pretty much. I did most of my initial learning last year.

https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide this guide is pretty good and then I used a lot of MrBeast's references for custom UIs https://github.com/MrBounty/PZ-Mod---Doc

[warm prawn]

MrBeast? lol

Why did I laugh like that?

[chrome egret]

lol whoops

That's the YouTuber I think, didn't learn much from him xD

MrBounty**

[warm prawn]

ik

[warm prawn]

He's only the most famous youtuber ever.

Besides the point.

[chrome egret]

I'm happy to keep helping, but I will have to start work here in a few minutes, so I'll become much less available.

[warm prawn]

Alright, I think you helped enough.

Thanks a ton!

[upper lynx]

Hello, I was just wondering if anyone can help me with getting started on vehicle modding for the game? I know of two tutorials on the forums, but was just curious which is the best to follow along with since they're dated now, plus I'm wondering how things like pop-up headlights work (if possible) as well as extra bits for vehicles like spare tyre slot, spoilers, armour etc

[chrome egret]

@faint jewel where do you recommend people start for this?

[faint jewel]

Dr. Gustavo made a rather well done tutorial.

[frank lintel]

arbitrary? you mean specified time or you just talking random() also unless there an event for 'onPickup()' or something equal ya gonna have to check every tick to make sure someone doesnt pick something up.

[upper lynx]

I'm not familiar with that one, where can I find it?

[chrome egret]

Like it has a time but it doesn't match up to the thing happening you want because it's not directly linked. Something like EveryDays, EveryHours, EveryTenMinutes, EveryOneMinute, or even OnTick

[upper lynx]

Ah the animation guide on steam, nice 👌

[frank lintel]

why I was saying you'd need like an onpickup event so you can then 'assign' one but getting that pickup time to start it all is where the real difficulty going to be (dont think there is an event triggered when someone picks something up albeit there should be one...)

[chrome egret]

Well you don't "need" it, if you build in the logic to clean up your event and such, but yeah it is more work than a prebuilt.

[upper lynx]

Which guide is the best to get started of these two? I can't find any more up-to-date one https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28633-complete-vehicle-modding-tutorial/ https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24408-how-to-create-new-vehicle-mods/#comment-274042

[sour island]

Aside from using events you can also just use the Lua functions. If you're safely overwriting them, there shouldn't be any issues.

@chrome egret

[faint jewel]

the first one by tube is actually really good.

[warm prawn]

Apparently, age doesn't matter when it comes to modding usually.

It remains relatively unchanged.

[upper lynx]

Ah, was just unsure cause this game has had a lot of versions, in another game I modded there was different bits of info needed for things to work correctly, good to know then

[warm prawn]

I know because 5 year old videos still worked somehow.

[frank lintel]

coughs... API

[warm prawn]

I have the feeling modding is gonna be easy, yet difficult to get into.

[upper lynx]

It's going to be a steep learning curve since it's a lot more complicated than I'm used to 😅

[hearty rain]

Mod upload file structure is giving me headaches. How do I upload and maintain separate mods? Every time I try and upload a new one, it keeps pulling up the info of the previous mod and I'm afraid of overwriting it on the workshop.

Oh, hey Sycholic lol

[frank lintel]

honestly the coding isnt the hard part, setting up the enviroment and having a fully working IDE is the hard part...

[chrome egret]

Do you use much IDE support?

[frank lintel]

well dont know anyone who doesnt...

I mean if everything was annotated and there was some kind of javadoc-like reference it might happen.

[sour island]

If you use intelli-J, there's this:
https://github.com/Konijima/PZ-Libraries

[chrome egret]

I'm not saying it doesn't help, just that I mostly work in VS Code without very good IntelliSense for PZ modding.

[sour island]

Fairly easy to set up, wish it was even easier but I don't have the braincells to learn Gradle or recreate what it's doing inside

[frank lintel]

gradle just a batch process in basics

the whole decompile process etc

[sour island]

I imagine it is, but it is hosted somewhere online

And I don't have that level of know-how

[frank lintel]

well I havent looked at gradle in years but no its all done on your box. the how to do is stored remote

it'll def run faster or slower depends on your rig ^_^

[sour island]

Yes, from what I could tell it's lifting the instructions

[chrome egret]

Not necessarily

[sour island]

The original author was a bit of a weirdo, left the community pretty quickly

[frank lintel]

no but this instance (without opening it up and diving in more) it is

[sour island]

My best guess is he didn't want people to easily reverse engineer what he'd done (?)

[frank lintel]

it totally reminds me of nothing more then a MC craftbukkit/spigot creation

[sour island]

That's what he cited as his goal/inspiration

[frank lintel]

oh I could do that just by looking at it... I was totally following it along as it was running

[sour island]

Oh? Well you'd be doing the community a big service -- if the process was more streamlined.

[frank lintel]

someone said it uses JD and Im like no... that def fernflower working here

okay chuck open up any .class file in IJ

[sour island]

Alot of people use VsCode as well, I've never tried as I'm happy with IntelliJ. But would the libraries be somehow usable for them?

IntelliJ can open java files, yes

The pzdoc program does more than just decompile though

It runs through the exposures and creates a Lua friendly library

[frank lintel]

yeah there actual functions that do this.

[sour island]

Allowing for intelliSense, autocompletion / suggestions as you type.

Not at my computer atm

[frank lintel]

I mean I could try and tear it open more and look see exactly if that is actually an issue I thought it ran pretty well didnt know there a issue

[sour island]

There's only 1 issue after it's setup, and that's classes don't have proper inheritance of methods

But you can circumvent that by using EmmyLua to typecast multiple classes

---@type IsoObject|IsoMovingObject|IsoGameCharacter|IsoPlayer

But as you can tell, this is a pain and if you're new to PZ modding you won't know these classes by memory

Other than that, I feel like the setup is a bit steep for people.

The fact that Konijima had to rewrite the setup guide to make more sense is a testament.

Passed that, it's a pretty bare bones tool, so not much room to improve it I imagine.

[frank lintel]

well gonna take some digging. this is also involving maven so...

    id 'groovy'
    id 'io.pzstorm.capsid' version '0.4.2'
}

group 'org.example'
version '1.0-SNAPSHOT'

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
}```

and lulz at the default group and version

[chrome egret]

mavenCentral is just a default place to look for artifacts too

so it may not be used at all

[sour island]

Afaik the documenter stuff is hosted on maven

The decompiler is one tool, the pzDoc is another

He wrote a prototype called pzMod but he didn't understand mod file structures and the implementation would require installing the decompiler and documenter on every mod

Capsid is the 2nd iteration, and just requires decompiling/documenting once to set up as libraries in IntelliJ

Repeated runs are needed as the base game is updated.

[mental harness]

Hey Modders. Just getting into modding with a simple Cooking Expansion with some requests from friends on an MP server. My question: How would I go about extending base items to allow them to be included in a new EvolvedRecipe? For example, making Soft Tacos with Tortillas. I would essentially want the same functionality as the Taco EvolvedRecipe, we're just starting from a Tortilla instead of a Taco Shell.

[sour island]

That's more or less all the context I can give

[frank lintel]

well the last part you totally summed it up

like I said its just like back in MC, when we were decompiling getting fernflower to gen the source, saving them different jars adding in annonations so IDE's to use... it really doesnt look much different then that

[sour island]

The first iteration of the decompile tool also points to a hosted documenter that is hard locked to java 8. And so I broke with the recent change of PZ.

I'm worried something similar was done for the current version lol

[mental harness]

Or would it be simpler for me to make a Taco Evolved Recipe that replaces the base Taco Evolved Recipe and just make the starting ingredient Taco Shell or Tortilla?

[frank lintel]

yeah why I keep seeing this java 8 limit Im like why...

[sour island]

You might be looking at the old version, the current setup doesn't seem to have that issue

The game is on 15(?) But the tools still work with 17 or 18, and infact shouldn't be on 15(??)

[frank lintel]

17

[sour island]

I wonder if the version change working was a fluke then

[frank lintel]

the custom java they using their version # is 15 but its Java 17

[sour island]

Ah ok

[frank lintel]

why they named it like that I have no clue...

[sour island]

That would explain the fact 17 or 18 is needed

The thing is the author of capsid wasn't active then, so I wonder if he came back to change the version 🤔

Or maybe it matches whatever the game has-- and only the old version was hardlocked to 8

[frank lintel]

I actually have that JDK installed lol

but yeah there programs that take source look at it in java and auto add in your annotations in a basic form follow what types args are return etc and it just builds your function help/Intellisense stuff

so basically fernflower decompile, build class/source jar, run thru exposed functions, make annotations in a nutshell

[sour island]

Well if you're able/upto the task I would be grateful. Messing with it isn't in my current wheelhouse and I don't have time to learn.

[frank lintel]

I can keep digging its my day off my work sched sucks, on off on off rinse repeat.. what day is today?

[red tiger]

Good morning.

I've noticed a couple of bugs with my syntax highlighting extension for ZedScript. It's otherwise performing well. =)

[frank lintel]

does the name jboss mean anything?

[red tiger]

It's public and anyone can use it right now.

[red tiger]

This is my wheelhouse. xD

[frank lintel]

guess I was just the one raising the anchor :P

and chuck... umm lemme just post it.... <component name="ProjectRootManager" version="2" languageLevel="JDK_1_8" project-jdk-name="17" project-jdk-type="JavaSDK">

not sure if thats like global or what but just seen that in one of the xml configs

[red tiger]

For a sec I thought that was HTML from my PZ HTML project.

xD

Was like.. Oh..

[frank lintel]

nah thats from misc.xml in capsid

and yep compile config is 1.8 also.... so got a plan... rubs hands evilly

ah.. now it makes sense.

[red tiger]

What's your project?

What are you trying to do?

[frank lintel]

thats capsid and its because of groovy.

[red tiger]

???

I've read up and it looks like you want to upgrade compiled Java from 1.something to 1.something.

[frank lintel]

I was looking to try but since seem groovy dont like higher levels of java not sure even the point of doing so

[red tiger]

What uses groovy? What are you trying to modify?

[frank lintel]

umm everyone here does?

[red tiger]

I'm curious because this is the kind of work I used to do a lot.

[frank lintel]

that thing that makes your library/source stuff for IDE's.. PZ-Libraries

[red tiger]

But I have no idea what you want to do.

Oh you want to create a compliable project for modifying PZ bytecode?

[chrome egret]

All gradle scripts are written in Groovy

[red tiger]

False. Some scripts are in Kotlin.

[chrome egret]

Okay, that's a bit persnickety

[red tiger]

I'm one of those people.

[frank lintel]

lol

[chrome egret]

There has to be a way to make it work with higher Java versions though, there's no way Gradle stopped supporting with 9+

[frank lintel]

yes but again stop talking 'if's when we talking about something static.

[red tiger]

https://github.com/asledgehammer/SledgeHammer

This project is in Gradle and works with PZ directly.

Maybe that'll help?

[frank lintel]

so decompile, source, annotations the whole schpeel?

[red tiger]

I use it for modern Java versions.

Also IIRC IDEA uses an outdated (Maybe not anymore) version of gradle.

I had to install a later version and set it up.

You need to be at least JDK 16 IIRC to function with current stuff?

It's been a year since I messed with and solved these same issues.

It was a technical issue for my end when setting up gradle to work for my Java projects.

[frank lintel]

jab from what I can tell the PZ-libraries everyone using right now is brought down to 8 that was what I was trying change. but groovy apparnetly doesnt like 17.

[red tiger]

PipeWrench's Java transpiler uses gradle too however that's closed source so I can't reference that as another example. xD

[red tiger]

Try 16.

I remember this being something that I did.

[frank lintel]

why... if our code is in 17...

[red tiger]

Are you using 17's features?

[frank lintel]

do you know that by looking at the bytecode well I dont..

so if you gen source from bytecode on a lower level how you ever gonna know.

[red tiger]

Java can run legacy bytecode. There can be issues however the JVM is designed to support older compiled code going forward.

It's when libraries are removed or missing that the old compiled code fails.

[frank lintel]

well given Im looking at 17 JRE I doubt thats an issue

[red tiger]

The reason why PZ was in Java 1.7 for a long, long time was that they used sun libraries that were removed in JDK 1.8. (Lock objects) and this took time to replace.

=)

Anyways. I thought I'd at least share working projects in gradle that works with current versions of PZ. Maybe something in there might shine a light on your current issue.

[frank lintel]

well thats the point Im trying to seeif there limitations and thus if there is well Im gonna take a stab at making it over.

[frank lintel]

because Ive been down that road with MC 3rd party server development

[red tiger]

I'm at work so I'm quickly going through my stuff to see if I can provide more info

[frank lintel]

Im just brainstorming and digging thru capsid atm. and that dont help cuz says my gradle plugin is version 223.xxx lol

basically jab, the whole process of making the library jar stuff looks just like back when we were decompiling MC. then topic turned as apparently there still issues with it so then topic went to looking into fixing or something better.

[red tiger]

I was a mc modder since early 2010. I recall that time. I also contributed to projects then and made a clean compilable decompile of MC 0.30.

Yeah custom in-house tools were built then that turned into MCP.

[frank lintel]

lol MCP mmm

[red tiger]

I wrote a mod before that was a thing. It was over 100 class files extra.

[frank lintel]

yeah talking when craftbukkit came about as a 3rd party multiplayer server

[red tiger]

I worked on HMod.

=)

I'm not Hey0 but I knew em. <3

[frank lintel]

but you know what Im refering to the whole decompile, gen source, make javadoc annotation etc

[red tiger]

So you want to generate or manually add annotations?

[frank lintel]

well its done somewhat but there issues (and dont ask me Im too newbie ref this game)

[red tiger]

That's totally fine.

[faint jewel]

I was a 5th party developer.

XD

[frank lintel]

there the whole whats exposed checking etc there more too it but the whole basic workings reminds me totally of back then

[red tiger]

I need to find a picture to show you just how insanely interested I am in your problem a year back.

[faint jewel]

I'm the reason Minecraft has AO lol.

[red tiger]

@frank lintel =)

I went so far as to write a software program that allows people to write their own documentation as a third party.

PipeWrench has generated documentation that shows all method variants and their Java-specific types for each parameter.

[frank lintel]

yeah there programs that do that. why this whole automated system using capsid I was looking into to see exactly what its doing

[red tiger]

See: https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench/blob/stable/java/zombie_Lua.d.ts#L441

Maybe I could be more help after working hours. =/

[frank lintel]

if ya good at gradle stuff yeah could help out

[red tiger]

Maybe I could set up a template repo on GitHub for you.

[frank lintel]

right now I was just gonna change the XML's and force it to use a higher level see what happens but then ya woke up :)

[red tiger]

Good luck.

[frank lintel]

oh its either gonna work or the jar's are gonna be blabla bla

thing I was atm trying to figure out is...

a valid languageLevel="JDK_1_??" entry

[red tiger]

1_ is for old versions.

Usually, modern configurations use the whole minor version without the major version.

[frank lintel]

well exactly right now its 1_8...

[brave ruin]

Is there a way to have function checking how long a player have driven a car?

[red tiger]

Oracle changed their conventions on versions after 1.8

[frank lintel]

why I was trying to look up the valid field for it

[red tiger]

try JDK_16

[frank lintel]

k

oh this gradle build trying to use 7.3 so likely no issue there just seen it in another xml

[red tiger]

I'm using a newer version of gradle IIRC.

[red tiger]

.

That only works up to JDK 17

(7.3)

[frank lintel]

I'll prob have to install a newer version but thats okay

azul is 17

[pulsar rock]

Hey hi

What are the available types for sandbox options?

integer, boolean

string?

text?

[red tiger]

enum too.

[pulsar rock]

What's the exact name of the string type though?

"string"?

[red tiger]

Here's an example of a sandbox-options

[pulsar rock]

Neat, thanks!

Wait, crap

strings can't contain commas?

They can contain spaces though, right?

And ;?

[red tiger]

, is illegal IIRC.

Yeah the format isn't great. =/

[frank lintel]

escaped... isnt it?

and btw jab you'll know this strings for us in lua are what UTF?

[red tiger]

UTF IIRC.

[frank lintel]

nvm

[red tiger]

You should be able to use \uXXXX IIRC.

[frank lintel]

yeah how ya'd do a comma right?

[red tiger]

charmap. one sec.

It'd resolve when digested by a buffered reader as a comma though.

[frank lintel]

or any of the other special characters..

[red tiger]

It'd be digested the very same.

Yeah maybe a special comma.

[frank lintel]

but yeah ignore the utf thing I was thinking something else

[red tiger]

‚

[frank lintel]

and build successful? O.o

[red tiger]

\u0130

That's a special char that's basically a comma.

Not sure if the game will render it if that's the goal.

zombie.scripting and zombie.scripting.objects is where the parsers are located.

[frank lintel]

Ive seen escaped characters in SS so I know they used somewhat

[sour island]

Sandbox options should have IDs for translation purposes

You can include special characters there

[frank lintel]

interesting... capsid works fine with normal jdk but fails with Azul

[scenic cradle]

Anyone know why my mod isn't updating? The id and workshop number are correct, and the uploader says it is successful but the version on the workshop hasn't updated

nevermind, I'm an idiot

[modern hamlet]

Events.EveryHours or Events.EveryTenMinutes
Which one is called first?

[frank lintel]

whomever's time comes first? you have two different starting points...?

[frank elbow]

Fine for most use cases, but with string options specifically it's a bit of a pain that the default value can't contain commas because of the delimiter being a comma

I ran into that problem when creating options for format strings used in interpolation—initial design used commas to separate arguments in functions

[frank lintel]

why I thought ya can do \, for string stuff

double backslash.. etc

[frank elbow]

I don't think so based on what I remember the code doing, but I could be wrong (I'd check but I'm at work)

If my memory is accurate I think the parser looks for the comma first when parsing a block value

[frank lintel]

it might not even been a string I seen it in. right now just trying to figure out why I got azul15 when we dont even use it...

[frank elbow]

I'm talking specifically about sandbox-options.txt, to be clear

[frank lintel]

oh the topic came up earlier using ,'s in strings

[frank elbow]

In regular Lua strings it's fine (I think that was the relevant topic from earlier too; may have just been a misunderstanding)

[modern hamlet]

I mean, which runs first when it's 12 o'clock for example

[frank lintel]

unless its set that way I dont think every10min runs like that.

I mean to me if ya tell me ya got a 10 minute event trigger that just means it triggers every 10 min 'when you started it' not related to the time of day...

[frank elbow]

I think they're asking which event is triggered first, which is a fair question

I can't check myself at the moment

In other words, if every ten minutes runs at minutes 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, and every hour when the minute is 0. The question is which event is triggered first when the minute is 0 (unsure if the events actually run on those particular minutes or not, but that's the easiest way to conceptualize it)

[frank lintel]

dunno to me an event never would do that unless you lucky enough to call it by the exact time in seconds milisec? I forget the name of how time tracked... but if that the case whomever created first.

[frank elbow]

The events would always be triggered in whichever order they're set up to be triggered based on how to Java code invokes them, so not necessarily whichever event handler was added first between the two events

I think that's accurate for a single event, but this is concerning two separate events

[frank lintel]

why I dont think you can say which... is first...

[frank elbow]

I'm unsure what you mean

[frank lintel]

its two different events

[frank elbow]

Yeah, EveryTenMinutes and EveryHours

[frank lintel]

you just said what im saying in a better way. :)

[frank elbow]

I think I said something different, but I don't know that I care to elaborate any further unless you really want to know 😄

[modern hamlet]

Their invoke order is important i was asking that order

[frank lintel]

wasnt my question. I dont know how internally events are hooked

[frank elbow]

The question is answerable by looking at the decompiled code. I'd check if I were home

You could also just find out via testing, if no one answers

[modern hamlet]

I couldn't test it because my hand is a little full 😛

i will check it k

[frank lintel]

tbh prob best way to get your answer though

I mean I thought 0 or let alone negative # index's were not even possible.

[frank lintel]

well okay got if I see this Compiling exposed class zombie.ai.states.PlayerEmoteState... Expected to find missing API page for path zombie/ai/states/PlayerEmoteState that just meaning there no annotation or thats a non-exposed class?

[sour island]

You can confirm with the LuaManager class

Some inherited classes are not exposed while their parent class is

[frank lintel]

Im not trying to dig hard just wondering if that was a quick sign Im now decompiling this with the exact java that the game using now

some how I had azul 15 dunno why... its Zulu(azul) 17

but either was yeah its def java17

now I wonder if lower lang level being used because of Kahlua...

[sour island]

That could be a strong possibility, I think the Kahlua is old as well

Could be why it's 17 but named 15

[frank lintel]

no I was wrong that was my fault some reason had Zulu 15 installed as a jdk (and no clue honestly where it came from)

I went back checked the JRE versions in the game and seen it is Azul/Zulu 17..

[red tiger]

Hehe.

I have to copy the expose code-block for PipeWrench to only expose the exposed classes.

[frank lintel]

every time so far capsid been running (which I didnt notice) was it was running off my default java jdk now I got it set to specifically use only the java the game uses

[red tiger]

Yeah that can be an issue.

[frank lintel]

now Im just trying to find the dang jar files so I can look at how it went...

[fast galleon]

remind me best way to add / remove items on server to a container

[sour island]

Check the debugtools

The vanilla ones have a remove/delete function

[fast galleon]

don't those work from client?

[frank lintel]

hmmm okay if you have java source not class's you can use that as a library right?

just wondering if IJ has some odd quirk that causing all the 'missings/unknown' cuz I went thru the steps fully and when adding zdoc-lua its like 'uh I dont know what this is...' then asks me to pick what this is.

[sour island]

They send stuff over to server

[frank lintel]

ideas anyone? would classes be the right choice?

only asking cuz the docs dont tell ya this part.

[red tiger]

Hmm... I think this looks better:

[frank lintel]

mmmm cake

[frank lintel]

what about you jab... you got a jar full of source code... what choice do you make?

[red tiger]

I don't know why I'm choosing.

[frank lintel]

because to me thats sources or sources archive dir... (cuz a jar is nothing more then that..) just want 2nd opinion

give a netbeans user a break ^_^

[tawdry solar]

i added a new item to my mod and it made my model for my other weapon dissapear

[red tiger]

woooo

I got capture Regex working.

[frank lintel]

💰

[frank lintel]

okay well not sure if this right or gonna help but if I just renamed the jar to a zip I could instantly without problems have IJ see it as a Lua library now.

[red tiger]

Found a syntax error in recipes.txt...

lol

[frank lintel]

okay is this bad form? (IsoPlayer.getCoopPVP() == true) when getCoopPVP returns a bool? isnt this just adding more steps to check the == true ?

[bronze yoke]

if it's definitely going to be a bool, it just makes the code longer

[frank lintel]

so bytecode steps wont be just pointlessly added in from that?

[bronze yoke]

idk, it isn't exactly the same operation so the bytecode will be different, but never checked which is faster

[frank lintel]

ty that actually just gave me inspiration cuz I got a program just to check that derp...

[wide oar]

models-resource

xD

Question

Can items not have tooltips?

{



    item bakugo
    {
        
     
        Type                        =   Clothing,
        DisplayName                 =   (Outfit) Katsuki Bakugo (Hero Outfit),
        Tooltip                     = "If you think you'll be reborn with a quirk in your next life, why don't you take a last chance swan dive off the roof?!",
        ClothingItem                =   bakugo,
        BodyLocation                =   Shoes,
        BloodLocation               =   Head;Neck;Trousers;Jumper;Hands;Shoes,
        NeckProtectionModifier         =   1,
        Icon                        =   cosplay,
        StompPower                     =   2.5,
        CanHaveHoles                =   false,
        RunSpeedModifier            =   1.05,
        CombatSpeedModifier         =   1.25,
        ScratchDefense                 =   100,
        BiteDefense                 =   100,
        Insulation                  =   0.80,
        WindResistance              =   0.75,
        WorldStaticModel            =   gobslay,
    }
    recipe Katsuki Bakugo (Hero Outfit)
    {
        Money       = 50,
        Result         : bakugo,
        Time         : 50,
                Category    : Sankese,
    }
} ```

doesnt work in game

[fading horizon]

I just made my first mod ever. Am I allowed to post it here? I didn't see anything in the rules

[drifting ore]

Might be a stupid question but how to write an if that'll check if player is being chased by zombies?

[bronze yoke]

if getPlayer():getStats():getNumChasingZombies() > 0 then

[drifting ore]

Would ~= 0 work fine too?

But anyways thank you so much for helping

[manic relic]

anyone know where the textures are for these flags?

wanted to make a reskin of one of them or maybe even add custom ones

[red tiger]

Going to update my VSCode extension in a bit with some improvements to the syntax highlighting.

[drifting ore]

Well i added that code and even when I'm chased the rest of the code doesn't work

[tawdry solar]

i would assume in the game files

more specifically heqre

[manic relic]

nah its not

[tawdry solar]

no clue sorry

they may be encoded

anyone know what this means

i added this weapon

and 2 of my models no longer work

[wide oar]

if you search in the media folder for flag u might find it, otherwise my guess would be one of the decor images

[manic relic]

what are decor images

[tawdry solar]

like couches n stuff

i assume

like tiles

wtf

[manic relic]

and how do I edit them?

[tawdry solar]

idk man

i havnt messed with that

this is a stretch BUT

#mapping may know sm

oh hey

uh

yeah

i copied some of my other code

and changed it all

but it still doesnt work

👍

[ancient grail]

yeeah there in the \steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\texturepacks

the .pack files

if you want to learn how to do tiles you should ask #mapping

[manic relic]

k

[ancient grail]

😅 youre welcome

[keen silo]

Hello, I need some help with my automation tool for my Voiced Radios & TV mod, I managed to programatically access the RadioData.xml, get the Lines and their voices and get the audiofiles and time tags.

Because of the way the mod is made, I need to add the sound to a script file.

It would look like

sound {BROADCAST_ID}
{
    category = Object,
    clip
    {
        file = media/sound/Broadcasts/{BROADCAST_ID}.ogg,
        distanceMin = 5,
        distanceMax = 50,
        reverbMaxRange = 10,
        reverbFactor = 0,
    }
}

Does anybody know what is the format name or if there is one for this type of file?

Im trying to automate the insertion of data using python, and I would rather us a good format library instead of writing a long string with every tab and newline to keep it formated

[bronze yoke]

it's an original format for pz, there are no libraries for it

[keen silo]

f*ck

well, worth a shot

i guess i'll have to write a very long string

(why couldn't they use json )

[tawdry solar]

im sad now

can anyone help?

[zinc pilot]

does anyone here have experience with messing with vehicle physics in MP?

[keen silo]

'\n\tsound {id}\n\t{{\n\t\tcategory = Object,\n\t\tclip\n\t\t{{\n\t\t\tfile = media/sound/Broadcasts/{id}.ogg,\n\t\t\tdistanceMin = 5,\n\t\t\tdistanceMax = 50,\n\t\t\treverbMaxRange = 10,\n\t\t\treverbFactor = 0,\n\t\t}}\n\t}}\n}}'

What a horrible way to encode this.

But it formats it beautifully, and works perfectly

[chrome egret]

Seems like exactly the kind of thing @red tiger is trying to provide tooling over

[red tiger]

The problem is my API is in TypeScript.

I could translate it to a pure Lua lib.

I can see that being useful down the road.

Right now I'm working on VSCode extension support for ZedScript.

Generating it from Lua can be easy to write actually.

[red tiger]

I also have a modified JSON library that works with PZ.

[chrome egret]

@keen silo what would make it easy to integrate from a python app?

[keen silo]

I guess that we would need a way to store the different objects (sounds, items, whatever), get their contents, write their contents, add different tags acording to what they require, and then writing those changes to the file

currently, what im doing is just deleting the last } from my script file, and adding this long line of text that formats it nicely and closes it

since I only have one type of items on this file (sounds), and they are all the same, it is not a big issue to me, but it would probably be nice to have a way to make sure everything is formatted correctly

[red tiger]

My API needs work, however: https://github.com/asledgehammer/ZedScriptParser

This API is a deep-searching one. If you want a shallow, generic key->value API, Fenris_Wolf made one in Python 3.

IIRC it's a nested dictionary model.

[frank lintel]

now is the time I wish I didnt erase my freebsd install...

[red tiger]

My stuff is probably doing way more than what's needed.

[frank lintel]

lua.c lua.h .... basically sums the issue up atm

[red tiger]

Rewrite of Kahlua when?

[frank lintel]

no original lua

[red tiger]

lol

If I rewrote Kahlua, I'd call it Brandy.

[frank lintel]

I went that deep just to try and actually run lua

[red tiger]

People build their own kernels. (I don't know why)

I assume it's C programmer brain dialed up to 11.

[frank lintel]

no I was just wanting to test the actual speed of (bool) vs (bool == true)

well no cuz lua is C

11 would be making it in java :P

[red tiger]

11 would be writing in ASM.

[frank lintel]

tat going back a bit too far

it being in C is pretty down there as is

[red tiger]

You would've hated being near me as a kid then.. =P

I played a little with ASM.

[frank lintel]

oh I dont mind ASM

just saying for what lua is. asm might be way too low level

[red tiger]

Yeah

[frank lintel]

but tell you what in java there is a clear difference between a single boolean IF logic and using an == true

I found that alone just by playing with PZ's math.clamp

[chrome egret]

Say more?

[red tiger]

Give it ~5 minutes however the ZedScript VSCode extension is updated.

Fixed some highlighter bugs and what not.

[ancient grail]

@dark wedge you dont consider zedDmg as part? Its weird but it can ve considered as part i think?

[frank lintel]

was that to me?

[worn juniper]

thank you big man

[red tiger]

👍

[dark wedge]

Afaik, those are not something you can equip and unequip at will under normal circumstances via your inventory, so no.

[chrome egret]

Yes

[frank lintel]

well found a code speed increase for clamp.

also doing so found that any >= <= == ~= is slower then just > < not

enough that just using System.currentTimeMillis() its measureable

[ancient grail]

Cuz they dont have displayname on the scripts
If you add it you can equip em

But yeah like you said "under normal circumstances"

[red tiger]

Sounds right. That's why I use !== A lot.

!== 0

[frank lintel]

facepalms

Im gonna name something after you as I aim on someone in honor of that :P

[red tiger]

Nots with explicit integer literal expressions are fast.

[frank lintel]

well this is a bool compare in this case

[red tiger]

Oh? Hahaha that's awesome.

[frank lintel]

Im about to hop into a shikra

[red tiger]

I remember making a fast pi calculator using int math

The guy interviewing me was confused lol

[frank lintel]

so says the guy talking about ASM

[red tiger]

Registers my friend.

[frank lintel]

and you know Im right because I bet < 1 out of 100mil know asm

[red tiger]

Kahlua doesn't support bitwise and I am offended.

[frank lintel]

oh so am I. I was like wtf there is no ! like wth

[red tiger]

Lua 5.2 when?

[frank lintel]

well they got not... but they dont do !== like you said

[red tiger]

!== Is a JavaScript explicit not.

[frank lintel]

unless Im missing ya on bitwise meaning

well we are in java land too remember :P

[red tiger]

Pretty much !=

[frank lintel]

and this is why I am trying to compile lua atleast first with C...

[red tiger]

Js makes!= Implicit

[frank lintel]

Im glad they got short circuit logic atleast

[red tiger]

"1" == 1

1 !== "1"

Welcome to JavaScript.

I am the only human being that likes JavaScript

XD

I like how JavaScript handles null.

[frank lintel]

its null.

[red tiger]

Null !== Undefined

[frank lintel]

no null is just null

[red tiger]

Null == undefined

Undefined is so useful

[frank lintel]

okay back to flying ttl maybe I'll turn the stream on

[red tiger]

Null is a value in js

Cya

[wide oar]

Does anyone have the Katana model in .fbx

or just a pack with all the weapons in fbx so i can scale my own weapons better lol

[hot patrol]

anyone know if it is possible to to have a crafting recipe not appear in the crafting menu? one of my weapons has mechanic similar to opening and closing the umbrella and I want to hide that from the crafting menu as to not bloat the already laggy menu with more redundant crafts.

[sour island]

I faintly recall there being a 'hidden' parameter

[hot patrol]

how do you use it?

this is the function I am using for the craft function Recipe.OnCreate.DakiFlip(items, result, player, selectedItem, firstHand, secondHand) result:setCondition(selectedItem:getCondition()); if secondHand or firstHand then if not player:getPrimaryHandItem() then player:setPrimaryHandItem(result); end player:setSecondaryHandItem(result); end end

not sure if that's important

[frank elbow]

Check the code for the crafting menu: ISCraftingUI.lua

Perhaps unclear without checking the java, so short answer is that there's an IsHidden value on your recipe you can set to true which will hide it

I was messing around in the animation viewer & when I closed it I saw this

I assume I just hit some key on accident while in there, quite the surprise

[drifting ore]

tbh its kind of cool if you think about it

[frank elbow]

That's why I shared it 😄 thought it was neat

[keen silo]

alright, I finished the automation script

I decided to make the transcript of the next program after the one I did

[hot patrol]

Wait so it's really this easy? ```recipe Flip Dakimakura
{
Dakimakura1,

    Result:DakimakuraFlip1,
    OnCreate:Recipe.OnCreate.DakiFlip,
    Time:0,
    IsHidden:true,
}```

[frank elbow]

Should be, yeah

[glass basalt]

yeah it makes it a hidden recipe you can't see in the crafting menu

[hot patrol]

nice. I'm not used to things working out this well

[keen silo]

this is the script:
Welcome to Exposure Survival guys.
I'm Dean and I'm goin' back to nature.
This is a show that'll teach you the basics of outdoor life.
But before we get to survival - lets nail the basics.
Let's fish.
Now I'm sure you've got your rod...
But then: bait.
What bait should you get?
Well worms are common, right?
So dig, and get a bunch.
Or there's lures, or maybe smaller fish - ey?
Find your river, cast the line - wait a while.
Job done.
Until next time guys.

[glass basalt]

...this is AI generated, isn't it?

has that uncanny filter in the bg

[keen silo]

yes

[glass basalt]

still really cool, looking forward to it getting released 😁

[hot patrol]

Maybe it's just me but I think it would be comical if you used Dean Hall's voice for that since DayZ and all.

[keen silo]

im not gonna voice every line :v

[keen silo]

I do not have a paid Eleven Labs Account sadly

but

Im planing on improving the automation script

and what I want to do

is release the mod + automation script

then, everyone can start running the script with whatever voices they like, and adding to the mod

if they want, they can even add their own voice to the game

[hot patrol]

That's pretty cool.

I like it

[keen silo]

(Currently the automation tool is able to overwrite already made Broadcasts)

[hot patrol]

yep I would absolutely have rocket teaching me how to climb everest and make a campfire

Nobody ever expected this guy to be the host of exposure survival XD

[weak sierra]

can anyone help me locate the bit of code that draws the "Mod: XYZ" tooltip

i can't seem to find it

looked in ISTooltip and ISTooltipInv

searched all the lua files

can't even find a translation string for it

[glass basalt]

News_EN.txt, line 3714

[weak sierra]

that's a news post tho

is it not

:P

[glass basalt]

it has the information you are looking for

ill paste it, one sec

[weak sierra]

i did find these

[glass basalt]

Fixed "Mod: XYZ" in item tooltips for mod items always displaying the name of the last mod loaded.
Added Tooltip.ModName debug option to control displaying "Mod: XYZ" in item tooltips for mod items.
[NODOT]<INDENT:40> This could be changed to a Display option if wanted (translations needed though).

[weak sierra]

searching for Tooltip.ModName yields nothing, however

[glass basalt]

so i'd look for Tooltip.ModName

ah

[weak sierra]

im guessing maybe it's in the java..

but that's weird

cuz the render code sure isn't

for the tooltip

[glass basalt]

weird to have something benign like this hardcoded

it makes it NOT benign

[weak sierra]

yeah.

i wanted to disable it, should have been easy

[glass basalt]

people are forced to be informed which mod an item comes from 😔

unimmersive as shit, I want to be confused lmao

[fast galleon]

That's vanilla option already.

[weak sierra]

is it?

says it is in debug

[fast galleon]

I like not knowing, It's always off. The colour is a bit weird and intrusive.

[weak sierra]

ah

it is in there

weird that i couldn't find anything for it by translation strings

[frank elbow]

Looks like it's untranslated; it's set in InventoryItem

By the way @weak sierra, what did you end up doing as a workaround for the sandbox options issue? After I noticed it I added a server + client command to grab & set updates but that feels less than ideal (a fix to the actual issue would be actually ideal, of course, but I'm wondering whether there's a better way nonetheless)

[weak sierra]

i haven't tested what i have right now to verify that it works

[frank elbow]

Something similar to what I've described, or no? Not looking for a full description, just an idea

[weak sierra]

not similar, automated

unless u meant automated via commands

i HAD been working on something that did that (store sandbox options in global mod data, clients pull from it)

but i was having trouble finding a way to set the sandbox options on the client end

then i stumbled across a trick that lets me automate it from just the server end

but i need to validate it

[weak sierra]

means i can't forcibly disable it without a java mod, yeeting it from the end result with regex, or messily forcing the option to be set on clients and patching the box away so they can't turn it back on

was hoping to just quietly patch it out

bah

[frank elbow]

Right now I have it set up to grab sandbox options when clients join, so it's automated but if they change while the player is online they won't persist. I suppose it would be wise to have a way to push updates

[weak sierra]

how'd you do that

ill share what i have if u share what u have :P

that said, u could easily put that on a timer

[frank elbow]

I don't much care for how I did it honestly, it's just via server commands

[weak sierra]

yeah but i mean

the actual mechanism

the commands are not interesting

the code they call is

curious how u propagated it and set it

[frank elbow]

Ohh, just by setting it in SandboxVars directly

[weak sierra]

i tried to do that and found i had to convert them to ConfigOptions

and then that the relevant functions were non-existent

maybe i was using the old doc by mistake

[frank elbow]

Via the SandboxOptions global? I should clarify I have it set up specifically to sync my mod's sandbox variables, so not the same process

[weak sierra]

OH

i was making something that syncs everything

dynamically

[frank elbow]

Ahh, gotcha

[weak sierra]

so i had to account for unknown named vars

[faint jewel]

the key you press was "w" you can do it in the vehicle editor too.

[frank elbow]

Unsure whether this is relevant, but I did find that getDefaultValue was present on the unconverted option objects while grabbing default values

Dunno whether the same is true for whatever sets the values

[weak sierra]

well if the thing i found works it wont matter cuz it just triggers the native sync functionality

and i think it does work

when im 100% sure i'll release a little minimod that fixes it

[frank elbow]

Oh, nice

[keen silo]

@hot patrol Im trying to improve the automation script. I currently managed to make it output the text transcripts in roughly the same color as the game does. My plan is to add a config file, where you place the following information:

Your Elevenlabs API Key
The broadcast ID you are using
11 Voices (can be repeated)
Voices contain:
Voice number : 1-11 (just to know which is which, serves no purpose in script)
Voice name : the name of your voice in Eleven Labs
Voice stability : the stability value
Voice similarity_boost : the similarity boost value

Once Im done with this and I check that it works correctly, I'll try to voice a couple of programs in Life and living, and I'll upload the mod with the automation script. I guess I could finish by tomorrow

[modern hamlet]

I'm trying to repair walls and doors. I can see its health decrease when I damage to it, but when the zombies hit, the health I see with getHealth() doesn't change. I'm a little confused, are zombie damage and player damage different things?

[wide oar]

hey guys plewase help me im getign really fukcing frustartaed