mod_development

[red tiger]

You can only do so much.

[true vault]

Alright, welp, let's see how terrible this ends up lolz

[bronze yoke]

probably not very - though i've been cautioned about it so much i haven't really experienced it myself, and i have mods relying on it

[red tiger]

Im fucking crazy because I've been lost in the sauce for too long. I don't expect you to be efficient on your first try.

Premature optimization is the leading cause of orphan projects.

For real.

Enjoy yourself and never forget to have fun when modding.

[true vault]

Honestly, at this point I'm not even trying for optimization, just figuring out how to make this work in the first place lolz

Dynamic generation is, after all, supposedly a very hard thing in this game I've been told.. >.>

[drifting ore]

Hey guys

[drifting ore]

Kay, so I got a png I want to add to a pack file

How do I add a png to a pack file?

[drifting ore]

what are you trying to spawn in anyways?

there is another way to do this as im sure you might be familiar after being in the mapping discord also. just would depend on your goal really

[weak sierra]

anyone who knows how attached weapon definitions and hair outfit definitions work around?

tryin to figure out why a specific outfit spawns but won't spawn with the items it's supposed to anymore

in a mod i did not make

AttachedWeaponDefinitions.ScreecherKatana= {
    chance = 100,
    outfit = {"Screecher"},
    weaponLocation = {"Stomach"},
    bloodLocations = nil,
    addHoles = false,
    daySurvived = 0,
    weapons = {
        "Base.BlackKatana",
    },
}

AttachedWeaponDefinitions.ScreecherMark= {
    chance = 100,
    outfit = {"Screecher","ScreecherNoKatana"},
    weaponLocation = {"JawStab"},
    bloodLocations = nil,
    addHoles = false,
    daySurvived = 0,
    weapons = {
        "Base.ScreecherMark",
    },
}

AttachedWeaponDefinitions.attachedWeaponCustomOutfit.Screecher = {
    chance = 100;
    maxitem = 2;
    weapons = {
        AttachedWeaponDefinitions.ScreecherKatana,
        AttachedWeaponDefinitions.ScreecherMark,
    },
}

AttachedWeaponDefinitions.attachedWeaponCustomOutfit.ScreecherNoKatana = {
    chance = 100;
    maxitem = 1;
    weapons = {
        AttachedWeaponDefinitions.ScreecherMark,
    },
}```

cat = {}
cat.outfit = "Screecher";
cat.beard = "None:100";
table.insert(HairOutfitDefinitions.haircutOutfitDefinition, cat);

cat = {}
cat.outfit = "ScreecherNoKatana";
cat.beard = "None:100";
table.insert(HairOutfitDefinitions.haircutOutfitDefinition, cat);```

they are spawning with the correct clothing, but no ScreecherMark or ScreecherKatana

table.insert(ZombiesZoneDefinition.Default,{name = "Screecher", chance=0.01});
table.insert(ZombiesZoneDefinition.Default,{name = "ScreecherNoKatana", chance=0.03});

so they spawn, so the last bit works

as far as i can tell the HairOutfitDefinitions thing just prevents beards on them

therefore something's wrong with the AttachedWeaponDefinitions somehow?

anyone see anything?

compared authenticz's stuff to this, i see no issues..

[drifting ore]

i dont see anything either

i checkewd for like 15+ mins lol

[ancient grail]

How will u do this if it was you albion

[silk owl]

With a vampire mod out (amongst other things), are there any plans to create a superhero themed one? Something to add a little more variety, that is! I'm thinking flight, laser eyes, and other neat stuff.

[humble oriole]

yea, I give up, you can't remove items from zombies on death and I can't get this to work.

function removeLoot()
    for x,y in pairs(Distributions[1]["all"]) do
        if x:contains("Outfit_") or x:contains("inventoryfemale") or x:contains("inventorymale") then
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "Bullets380Box",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "Bullets38Box",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "Bullets9mmBox",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "Bullets45Box",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "Bullets44Box",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "ShotgunShellsBox",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "223Box",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "556Box",            nil, true)
            RemoveItemFromDistribution(Distributions[1]["all"][x], "308Box",            nil, true)
        end
    end
end

Events.OnPostDistributionMerge.Add(removeLoot)```

[drifting ore]

this person was able to do it apparently using this code.
#mod_development message
i'm don't remember why you are targeting any outfit when you dont want it to spawn on anything right?

[humble oriole]

just zeds, there's stuff in all that aren't zombies

[drifting ore]

but it's still way more simplified than what you're doing here. also does those two zombie types cover all zombies? i didn't think it would

[humble oriole]

all the Outfit_, inventorymale/female are all under all

LOG  : General     , 1676269390989> 0> Distro all:      PaperTray
LOG  : General     , 1676269390989> 0> Distro all:      EmergencyAxe
LOG  : General     , 1676269390989> 0> Distro all:      RSLocker
LOG  : General     , 1676269390989> 0> Distro all:      WZLocker
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      ESLocker
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      PVLocker
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      FloorSafeSpike
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      bin
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      campfire
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      cashregister
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      clothingdryer
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      clothingdryerbasic
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      clothingrack
LOG  : General     , 1676269390990> 0> Distro all:      clothingwasher
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      counter
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      crate
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      desk
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      dishescabinet
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      displaycasebakery
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      dresser
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      filingcabinet
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      freezer
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      fridge
LOG  : General     , 1676269390991> 0> Distro all:      grocerstand
LOG  : General     , 1676269390992> 0> Distro all:      inventoryfemale
LOG  : General     , 1676269390992> 0> Distro all:      inventorymale
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      locker
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      logs
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      medicine
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      metal_shelves
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      microwave
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      militarycrate
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      militarylocker
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      officedrawers
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      other
LOG  : General     , 1676269390993> 0> Distro all:      plankstash
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      postbox
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      restaurantdisplay
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      shelves
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      shelvesmag
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      sidetable
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      stove
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      toolcabinet
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      vendingpop
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      vendingsnack
LOG  : General     , 1676269390994> 0> Distro all:      wardrobe

those are also in all

[drifting ore]

welp. also looks like you can't set the PickUpLevel of a sprite above 5 that i can see

[humble oriole]

not even in the tile def?

[drifting ore]

yes only there

i am trying to control via sandbox 😦

getSprite(light):getProperties():Set("PickUpLevel","6")

soon as i go above 5 it goes potato

reverts to 3 always

[humble oriole]

o.O

[drifting ore]

i noticed in the vanilla tile properties file in Tilezed it's default is 5

i had to manually edit the file itself to change what value it allows

it works when i set it up to 10 in the tile properties file itself but not here

i have another method for this anyways i may go with. just thought this would be fun to do this way

[bronze yoke]

i wonder if you could use UnSet("PickUpLevel") first then?

[drifting ore]

o you're so fancy

im gonna try it

[bronze yoke]

i haven't looked exactly what that method does but if the original value matters maybe this will give it a blank slate of sorts

[drifting ore]

it doesn't cause an issue but it still wont let me set above 5

it goes back to 3 haha

nice thought though D: god i hate that it's always the last step of each function that i get caught up on

soo weird how i can do it with editing the .tiles itself though

[weak sierra]

is the setting reverting? cuz.. https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1067210244159193108

delete ur map_sand.bin file before updating sandbox settings, also sandbox settings are rather borky

[bronze yoke]

the problem isn't the sandbox setting itself is resetting, it's just the application of it is being refused for mysterious reasons

[drifting ore]

yea

i can use every minute event and change it all daty

1-5

second i use5+ it goes to 3

Me and 9 other Project Zomboid YouTubers are looking for moders on our server. We need just a few simple mods
If you are interested - DM me. And I also will send you the full list of YouTubers participating, if you want.

gonna try to figure out the other method i think where i use a context menu that makes you "disconnect wires". so if you hit perklevel and use context menu it should let you access the option, which essentially is just me just changing the level to below the sandbox option

then ill just hardcode it to 10 from .tiles

[bronze yoke]

i had a quick look at the code involved and this stuff is WEIRD

[drifting ore]

my brain can't think beyond that atm lol

LOL

at least this way is being gated by the context menu always needing to be used before removing any lightswitch

doesn't seem the worst. unless i'm not thinking about something haha

really bugs me though that 5 limit lol

there is also no possible way to force player to use more than 1 tool to pickup or place lol

unless im also a dummy there. but i tried hardcoded and lua and neither

said not implemented lol

i mean there probably is outside of the box way but not with that direct setting that i can find

[bronze yoke]

it keeps every possible value for every property in a lookup table

it's a bit too complicated for me to understand exactly why but that's why it refuses it, those values aren't in the lookup table

[drifting ore]

can you direct me to it?

is it on the java side?

is it something i can rewrite? LOL

[bronze yoke]

it's all java

[drifting ore]

😦

[bronze yoke]

i assume it's done this way for a reason so rewriting it might have a lot of consequences

[glass basalt]

where can I advertise my mod on this server? I see people usually post links in this channel, but what about others?

[drifting ore]

i have

i posted in pz chat lol

i dont endorse spamming but it's hard AF to get your mod out there with all the poo people decide needs to be posted publicly. spotlight is good but shortlived

[glass basalt]

I don't intend to spam, just want to send it out once to any potential onlookers and that's it

[drifting ore]

ah you are good. i just said it more as a disclaimer 😄

i love seeing posted mods anyways

[glass basalt]

gotcha. Time to upload this thing. I got ISUnequipAction working btw, the bug was incredibly stupid.

[drifting ore]

lol what was it? a missing parameter?

[glass basalt]

I was calling the player to unequip an item after it had been removed from the inventory, and the action didn't know what to look for

[drifting ore]

ohhhh

this is why i'm not great at coding. my brain doesn think that far through always 😄

[glass basalt]

the solution was putting "equip", "UnequipAction", then my timed action. I was very disappointed

[drifting ore]

gratz on any solution though

can always come back later if you want. mods done for now 😄

[glass basalt]

whatever gets the job done, right? the main thing now is having someone else solve the greater issue I have with it lolol

[drifting ore]

i was gonna messs with it later in tiles

try assigning an item to the sprite and set Isotype on the item. no idea tbh

it's all very magic-like when it works

if i had a better idea how it worked then np. lightswitches were already interesting to figure out

[glass basalt]

i looked at adding a sprite just for the new items, but "texturepacks" and pack files all looked very intricate and difficult to maintain, so I'm going for 3d models

[drifting ore]

it's def not more complicated than 3d model LOL

but i like that

[glass basalt]

perhaps a pipeline could be made with an "invisible" model that combines the InventoryItem and IsoObject but I'm not gonna waste more time on that for now

[drifting ore]

literally png file with precoded properties lol

[glass basalt]

I did not feel like reverse-engineering the xml files lol

[drifting ore]

i'll check it out and ping you if i get anywhere

[glass basalt]

sure thing

[glass basalt]

Thank you to everyone who put up with my dumb questions and struggles. This was a rollercoaster to make, but now I can have it available for the public to fix its issues lol
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2932823902

[ancient grail]

Me and Pao doing a colab on the reanimation mod
Basically turns the player into controllable zed once they die
Ive written a pseudo tech paper base concept of it
The animation ad the server client codes are already written
But still have alot of functions to cover

Anyone willing to colab with us?

The mod is posted on github but currently as private

This is a passion project

Its huge mod

Most of the listed items can be scratched as it might require lots of work for minimal impact
But i just wrote everything in mind so yeah the whole scope should be less than that

[glass basalt]

seems like you'd have to implement a bunch of properties from IsoZombie into IsoPlayer, if it's even possible
Or making a Lua class that is assigned globally to everyone to function like a Java class

[drifting ore]

could also do something like based off of udderly knocked out where when you die you have the ability to respawn and choose a specific psuedo profession or whatever that you can assign that to.

just an alternate thought

then you essentially respawn there as a new entity. not even sure if it would matter or not but it may save some headaches, especially if the char despawns and drops everything on death

back to lightswitches 😄

[fast galleon]

@drifting ore - Add new values property values and set them on sprite

--before OnLoadedTileDefinitions, in this example you can generate a new array with all levels and put it to PropertyValueMap without any checks
local vals = IsoWorld.PropertyValueMap:get("PickUpLevel") or ArrayList.new()
for i = 1, 10 do
  local val = tostring(i)
  if not vals:contains(val) then vals:add(val) end
end
IsoWorld.PropertyValueMap:put("PickUpLevel",vals)

--OnLoadedTileDefinitions *and later, tested with this event
--#Properties Set(string property, string value, boolean isIsoFlagType)
Events.OnLoadedTileDefinitions.Add(function(manager)
    manager:getSprite("..."):getProperties():Set("PickUpLevel",tostring(sandbox),false)
end)

#selfpins change tile properties

[drifting ore]

lol this is a thing? hell yes

if this works this is huge haha

every time i think i'm done i realize something else.... like when you hit level 5 electrical you can add battery connectors to them. ended up having to make something for that also

i'm addicted to the icons

[weary dock]

yo guys and ladies(if any present) , how to take timestamp when lua function called? ive got my hands on PZcalendar but syntax kinda weird and im not sure i get it

i need to write time when effect was applied so i can check how many of same effect is active at the time

and how to make item behave like Poultice

[jaunty marten]

os.time()

[weary dock]

ty

[jaunty marten]

u r welcome

[fast galleon]

hm, probably best to check if the array already contains the value before adding it.

[drifting stump]

os.time isnt a good choice for tracking buffs/debuffs

imagine you log out then come back 2h later

os.time gets irl time not ingame so it wouldve advanced the state when it shouldnt have

[drifting ore]

i'm about to crash but i will be spending a good amount of time looking into this. thank you @fast galleon

[weary dock]

yup thought about it so looked more and found LuaManager.GlobalObject:getGametimeTimestamp()

i guess it must work the way i need

[ancient grail]

done for commish proj of the day

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2932880530

[nova socket]

I wonder if there is any way to control that behavior from server?
[13-02-23 13:33:41.353] LOG : General , 1676288021353> 82 403 098> Disconnected player in CurrentCell.getObjectList() removed.

[ancient grail]

https://imgur.com/cPGtd6j
https://imgur.com/7k9zIbr

[shy hearth]

skellington :)

very cool

[thick karma]

@heady crystal FYI, I just reported a pretty significant bug on your page and told you exactly what needs to be done to fix it. Sorry to ping, but I suspected you may want to address it quickly, since it's a very easy problem to fix but a game-breaking error for gamepad users.

Out of curiosity, regarding common lingo around here, is there a technical difference between a Steam collection and a "modpack"? Does this community use modpack for an individual workshop item that contains a ton of mods, or does this community use modpack and collection interchangeably?

I know a lot of people don't like being included in "modpacks" from seeing people say this often, but I am wondering if the feeling about collections is the same.

I'm guessing inclusion in a collection would be okay with most modders?

(Since users do ultimately add to their subscription count?)

[jovial harness]

Personally I'm ok with modpacks as long as they're private

[thick karma]

That's fair. I think people want to get some traffic to their page that reflects the effort they invested, which is understandable.

I am interested in making a collection for my favorite set of mods, but I want to respect the wishes of the modders who make the collection possible.

[nova socket]

How does one properly spawn a vehicle from server? I see client sending /addvehicle string commands to server but not a single example for server execution.

[hot patrol]

I can't imagine peoe have issues with steam collections. But yea some people don't like being included in actual mod packs even if they are unlisted.

[thick karma]

Thanks. I think I understand but I want to explicitly make sure I'm not misunderstanding.

Hopefully this is how most modders feel. If no one responds with an intense hatred of being included in collections, I'll probably go for it.

[jovial harness]

People have asked me for modpacks, but never collections even though there's a lot of them out there. I can't picture someone getting upset with steam collections either

[hot patrol]

Collections still link to the workshop page and even include the modders name in the tags. It basically just adds that mod to a list as it says. So there is really no reason for them to be upset. But then again I don't see much harm in unlisted mod packs but I have been told other feel otherwise

When in doubt ask I suppose

[jovial harness]

If you have to ask you should create a discussion for it on the workshop page. That way people know the stance of the author and don't need to ask in the comments ; because apparently people dislike that.

[ancient grail]

Steam collections are basically the same as the normal sub so theres nothing wrong with that
It actually advertise the mod so its a good thing

[silk owl]

With a vampire mod out (amongst other things), are there any plans to create a superhero themed one? Something to add a little more variety, that is! I'm thinking flight, laser eyes, and other neat stuff.

[ancient grail]

Mod packs steals subs

Unlisted or not

[jovial harness]

Yeah that's why people never ask to make collections, and should ask to make modpacks

[thick karma]

@ancient grail @jovial harness @hot patrol Thanks for the feedback.

[ancient grail]

Ill provide you the code i have in a bit.. im currently afk

But basically i just use sendcommand that does the admin chat power

If you wantnto use the other code that need server client pingpong

[thick karma]

Lol @jovial harness accidentally removed your reaction checking who reacted

My fingers are unfit for this role

I am undeserving of blue

I apologize for my existence

[nova socket]

The thing is I wanna create vehicle at specific square without client being a part of it, if square is currently loaded in this cell.

[jovial harness]

lol no worries

[nova socket]

I seen there is a BaseVehicle class but it does require a descriptor to be built for it from what I got.

Just was wondering if there is a proper server-side function pre-existing to create vehicles without clients.

[ancient grail]

@nova socket
just modify the code

• addvehicle : Spawn a vehicle. Use: /addvehicle "script" "user or x,y,z", ex /addvehicle "Base.VanAmbulance" "rj"

function spawnv()
    local scripts = getScriptManager():getAllVehicleScripts()        
    local allV = scripts:size()+1    
    local randV = ZombRand(1, allV)
    local randM = scripts:get(randV):getModule():getName()
    local randN = scripts:get(randV):getName()
    local spawnV = randM..'.'..randN
    local command = "/addvehicle ".. spawnV .. ' '.. getPlayer():getUsername() 
    SendCommandToServer(command)
end

this is a random vehicle spawner code

[nova socket]

oh god.. getScriptManager():getAllVehicleScripts()

Gotta look into that now.

ty

[red tiger]

Hmmmmmmm

Good morning.

I'm probably going to need to regroup and start on pseudo-class implementation for my transpiler. =/

[ancient grail]

@mellow frigate i have sent you a dm

🙏

[ancient grail]

Nah you dont need the get all vehicle
You just need the sendcommand to server bit

Replace the username with xyz

[nova socket]

Nah I mean I want to know if there is a proper way rather than sending command with xyz

[ancient grail]

Idk what you meab

[nova socket]

I mean there should be a way to construct vehicle from class or have some related function to do it.

Unless there is none.

[drifting stump]

let me know how you decide to implement classes in lua might follow the same structure for ui

[red tiger]

? Oh this is for JS / TS.

I'm trying to map class-logic from PZ to proper JS / TS.

It's a way bigger headache.

[drifting stump]

werent you also writing the portion from ts to lua?

[red tiger]

No. This is handled by TSTL, a third-party transpiler.

[nova socket]

@ancient grail But thanks ill use command way for now.

[drifting stump]

ah youre still using that

[red tiger]

I plan to keep using that.

I'm working on a projact called LTTS.

(Other way)

Lua is not as straight-forward about pseudo-class solutions as ES5 JavaScript prototypes.

I could implement ES6 however this would possibly erase function-overrides.

[drifting stump]

im about halfway documenting the base ui

dealing with those 8713467127881 overloaded functions is pain

[red tiger]

This is a critical point in the development of the transpiler.

[red tiger]

10% of them being deprecated / unused.

[drifting stump]

especially figuring out the quirks of each

[shy hearth]

addVehicleDebug() in LuaManager.GlobalObject might be what you're looking for?

never used it myself

[red tiger]

Hey.. you might actually learn enough about the UI codebase on the Lua side to rival me. xD

[drifting stump]

yeah the overloads might not be used but there are still a crap ton of render functions

[red tiger]

I know both Java and Lua UI engine.

[drifting stump]

i mean i already know the lua side really well

[red tiger]

Make sure that you make it out alive.

Yeah.. I do need to release the shaders API for UI...

[drifting stump]

its the drawTexture and drawTextureUniformScaledColorWithFlowersUpsideDown that gets me while documenting

[red tiger]

If we can get the color byte order of params for Lua handles to be consistent with the Java API, that'd be great.

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-lumbergh-that-would-be-great-gif-7919962

I straight-up call self.javaObject haha.

[drifting stump]

im doing r g b a in every function

[red tiger]

argb is a common order for DirectX devs.

Makes me think that uhh some of the older devs worked with DirectX.

[drifting stump]

cool theory however TIS

[red tiger]

Hence "old devs"

[nova socket]

Doesn't work on server-side apparently.

So far from what I discovered sending command to server from.. server is the way to do it.

[drifting stump]

example of the docs ive done

[red tiger]

I would like to have you use my documentation format / app. The problem: It's not ready yet.

Having it stored in the JSON format I made would allow me to inject docs at some point in the Lua code lol.

It's literally for your situation.

💢

I wish I had time to finish it up.

[drifting stump]

well but that wouldnt have integration with the lua addon in vscode

or emmylua in intellij

[red tiger]

I'd like to extract your docs at some point so hold on tight to them.

[drifting stump]

well it does follow a standard so would be simple to extract and convert

https://github.com/LuaLS/lua-language-server/wiki/Annotations

[red tiger]

More like I'd use luaparse.

I can scrape your docs as long as I have the files.

[drifting stump]

eventually will be in the community framework

[red tiger]

What I want to do is inject the JavaDocs for PZ to var names and docs in decompiled Java code.

[drifting stump]

this one hurts

difference?

[red tiger]

Basically, it's to get around Lua function signatures not behaving like Java's method signatures.

It makes sense. The solution is meh.

You can mix params.

It'd confuse modders if not documented.

This is why you see PipeWrench's typings have interesting mixed types for params.

      /**
       * @noSelf
       *
       * Method Parameters: 
       *  - (String arg0, String arg1, KahluaTable arg2): void
       *  - (IsoPlayer arg0, String arg1, String arg2, KahluaTable arg3): void
       */
      static sendClientCommand(arg0: string | zombie.characters.IsoPlayer, arg1: string, arg2: se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaTable | string, arg3?: se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaTable): void;

(Example)

Same param thing, but with types showing what's happening from how Lua interprets a CallExpression.

[brazen fossil]

Finaly posted my volvo

[wintry dune]

does anyone know what this error means? im having a real hard time with it and it's affecting both the visibility of my clothing item as well as its tootip (which doesnt show up at all + does not register bite protection)

its difficult to resolve since i do not know where to look. for example i went to line 215 in the clothing.class file and nothing seems really out of place

not sure what my mod is breaking or why. although it maybe could be a compatibility issue? i'd like to still resolve the issue somehow since some mods are integral to my gameplay

[faint jewel]

what line sets up part 14 in your clothng?

[wintry dune]

in my files?

[faint jewel]

yes

[wintry dune]

squints i dont think i have a line that sets up clothing in my folder. which file should i be looking at? the item's .xml or .txt?

[fast galleon]

did you... fix capitalisation?

[naive fox]

Hi guys, quick question. If one is interested in getting into modding, where could they find the existing library/code to read & learn the structure & internal conventions etc?

Also, is the modding done purely done in Java, Lua or C++, and/or which ones can a modder utilize for the mods they create?

[thick karma]

Mods are mostly written in Lua for the sake of the end users. I recently posted this to offer a basic template of recommended decent practice, including tips / tricks and a GitHub repo link that you can clone into %userprofile%/Zomboid/Workshop, here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2929985581

That said, the type of mod you are making will affect what you need and the structure of your code.

E.g., you will need special folders for animations or sounds if you add them.

[naive fox]

Oooh, thank you 😄 I'll read this. I've been putting off my modding career in zomboid for too long.

[thick karma]

You can view the code of any mod to which you have subscribed on the Workshop in Steam/steamapps/workshop/content/108600

(obviously Idk where your Steam is installed)

[naive fox]

And which softwares are primarily used? Something like Visual Studio for coding?

[thick karma]

Super subjective imo

But there are objectively useful tools associated with specific editors

I personally prefer VS Code but I do not rely heavily on code completion when I program, so I'm not necessarily as picky as some about my editor.

A lot of people strongly recommend IntelliJ for a couple reasons

One, you can easily follow Konijima's guide to decompile the game's Java and use its files in your code completion

And two I believe there are add-ons for Lua code completion based on the media folder as well

Although I don't use them so Idk what they are

[naive fox]

I'm a game programmer by career (haven't graduated yet) focused on C++, so I expect the mods I make to be heavily code-oriented

But thank you, I'll take a look into those now ^^

[thick karma]

Good luck!

[dark wedge]

Is there a way that I can get a zombie by its OnlineID, or something similar? I'm currently trying to send a command from the client to the server, and need a way to tell the server which zombie to actually do something on. The only thing I could find is GameClient's getZombie() static method, but that's not exposed (or at least not from getGameClient()).

[jovial harness]

for playerIndex=0,getNumActivePlayers()-1 do
     local playerObj = getSpecificPlayer(playerIndex)
     if playerObj and playerObj:getInventory() then
         -- do stuff in the player's inventory
     end
end

This is in a function called on the EveryOneMinute event on the server. Anyone knows if this is fine to get all online players on a server?

[sour island]

Yes, I pass the zombieId over and use getcell():getZombies() to parse through

It seems accurate for the most part

I'd have to retest but I recall there being instances of not finding the zombie

This was also server to client

[worldly olive]

I use that for my mod and it works both SP and MP

It also works for split screen

[jovial harness]

Nice, thanks

[dark wedge]

I've thought about that technique, but it could be expensive to do that all of the time and this event will be triggered a lot. My other thought was to transmit the square coords, and iterate over the square's zombies just so there is a smaller sample size.

[humble oriole]

with the script manager is it possible to remove a recipe requirement and add in another?

[sour island]

Tried that too and that also had some issues - but more so - the returns for getZombie kept coming back as nil

If they moved around that is

[dark wedge]

Yea, i could see that being inaccurate if the connection between client and server isn't the best or there is just any sort of delay/desync

[sour island]

Perhaps using tile first then falling back to cell could be the way to go

But whatever information you need to send could probably be cut down

[lost spear]

No place to really discuss mods. Im curious are there any big mods like hydrocraft was back in the day?
I know its quantity over quality but it had some cool parts to it.

[ancient grail]

whats the max for engineForce

anyone know

[dark wedge]

This is for a weapon attack, so it needs to be fast. Iterating over the zombies like this would not be good for performance, and it needs to be consistent. If I can't get by the zombie id, then i'm not sure this is possible without either building my own cache, or letting the server calculate the weapon arc and stuff too. Problem with that is then I don't have a way to ensure that the same zeds are hit on client/server as i can't get by any zombie id....

[fast galleon]

hm, chuck knows better than me, but I thought it was said that zeds should be hit client side? Not sure how that conversation ended.

[dark wedge]

They do get hit client side, and i can see the events be fired when doing damage. My problem currently are the hit reactions/staggers...

[fast galleon]

can you use something as a tag or you need to edit the recipe itself?

[humble oriole]

Trying to edit a vanilla recipe

[fast galleon]

I think so, don't have an example atm.

[rustic garnet]

Is it more worth to do PZ mods in lua or java?

[fast galleon]

java is worth more, lua is simpler. For peace of mind, none.

[tepid dawn]

Hello, i think its a quick question but it may not be too

[rustic garnet]

Do you recommend something like PZ storm to start with java?

[tepid dawn]

i have a mod, and when i wear only my pants, its model is properly set

however when i also wear my jacket, then some faces disappear from my pants

[fast galleon]

never used that, I keep it simple

[tepid dawn]

does anybody know a fix for this, its making me mad.

[dark wedge]

Your best bet would be to ask in #modeling

[tepid dawn]

oh that makes sense, sorry didn't see that channel lol

[faint jewel]

check your masks

[tepid dawn]

Oh yes, but i dont really know what masks are for

[faint jewel]

.... those are what cause that to happen.

[tepid dawn]

and what numbers mean, couldnt find documentation online too

so i should remove all of them ?

masks of my jacket and pants interact with eachother, i dont know if this is on purpose but when i remove all of them, i can see the the skin from the elbows of my character...

[drifting ore]

Me and 9 other Project Zomboid YouTubers are looking for mod makers on our server. We need just a few simple mods
If you are interested - DM me. And I also will send you the full list of YouTubers participating, if you want.

[faint jewel]

what kind of mods?

they may already exist

[tepid dawn]

@faint jewel do you know any documentation about how masks work ?

its driving me crazy

[faint jewel]

check the pin in #modeling

[tepid dawn]

thank you so much, i think i will solve the problem !

[faint jewel]

🙂

[cosmic condor]

Something seems to be simple might require hundreds of lines of code. Could you elaborate on the concept of the mod so that those who are interested may offer their assistance?

[true vault]

[drifting ore]

every time I almost finish up. I find one more thing that would be awesome and then spend the entire next day figuring out. adding battery connector to lightswitches by sandbox level requirement, or completely disabled.

as i do more things i start to understand why modders mod 😄

[true vault]

Oh hey Nippynip

So I figured out a potential workaround to that project

[drifting ore]

this is how many options i've finally added

oh really?

[ancient grail]

You are doing great

Keeep it uuuuupp

[true vault]

Yeah, potentially. If I were to detect the worldage, that might be a hacky way of detecting when the map is newly generated, maybe. Like, there's gotta be some combination of other functions that would allow me to detect the world being "created", first player joins, etc, etc.

Then if I can somehow force tiles getting placed on squares that haven't been loaded..

[true vault]

Very noice, btw <.<

[drifting ore]

that's actually a pretty decent approach I think . I do wonder if it's possible to generate additions to veg layer on the fly

without killing pc

if there was then it could just appear like a tree would but only dynamically

i do wonder what event it's tied to or what kind of custom event would be ideal for that

[true vault]

Well, I realized something important that'll help with this lolz... what I'm working on is for a very specific map, with an already-known size, so, I can manually loop through the cells, randomly select a set of coords within that cell, grab the square based on those coords, and place the item, then wash rinse and repeat through all cells.

So, that part at least is covered.

[drifting ore]

ohhhhhhh

i didn't realize this was going to be on your map. even better

[true vault]

It's just the part where I need to limit this to only happening once, pretty much as soon as the world exists, that's the tricky part

[drifting ore]

my original idea is teh way IMO

it's not dynamic but the performance cost is not even compareable

[true vault]

In theory, if I can later figure out how to detect total number of cells in a world, such a script could be adapted to any size map too.

[drifting ore]

actually thats right

we want new and inventive ways to do things 😄

[true vault]

Yeah, I want the spread of them to be dynamic, so that players can't simply memorize where they are, and plan where to build communities based around those known locations.

[drifting ore]

your way would work for any map though if you get it to work, while my way would require you setting up a rules.txt and custom defining a color to the tile and where map makers place that color on map will spawn them

[true vault]

Like that way players can't be like "Hey, I know item X will spawn to the far right of the cell if I spawn at the Camp Rosewood point, so we should all spawn there, move that way, and start the first village there" type of thing.

[drifting ore]

my way is the boring way and more work for everyone

yea i'm really interested

you gotta keep me update on your progress 😄 i'm not at a level where i'd even know where to begin implementing something like that

[true vault]

Heck, if I can even get it to work off of a manual trigger, that would be a start, and then figure out automatically triggering it later lolz

[red tiger]

sus

[true vault]

actually, that said, I already did get that partly working. I already have a function that spawns it where you're standing when you run the function in the in-game console. I can probably expand upon that to generate it randomly with the same function... hmm...

[drifting ore]

could have it attach to certain other tiles/sprites and spawn within a random distance from them

[red tiger]

Huh did someone else besides me call Lua classes pseudo-classes?

[drifting ore]

not sure if there is any sprites that would fit the criteria for you

[true vault]

I mean, psuedo-classes are def common enough of a term that I've heard the term used before >.>

[fast galleon]

table inheritance

[true vault]

I mean, that's pretty vague though, since after all, basically everything is some form of a table in Lua...

[red tiger]

And that's why it'll be fun adapting Lua pseudo-classes as ES5 & ES6 JavaScript classes.

TIL you can use prototype API on ES6 classes.

My goal is to spit out something like:

// ES6 Class syntax
export class ISUIElement extends ISBaseObject {
 // ...
  update() {
    // ...
  }
}

// ES5 Prototype syntax
// Example Override method in another Lua file.
UIElement.prototype.update = function() {
  // ...
}

[weak sierra]

anyone know if the "ZombieMap" in the lotheaders for maps is exposed to lua in any fashion whatsoever?

[ancient grail]

Whats this

You and your mods.. i never understood anything that you do

Not once

[red tiger]

It's using JSDoc to define types for IntelliSense.

[ancient grail]

[red tiger]

I'm at work.

I write JS at work.

[ancient grail]

Ahh cool man

[edgy shadow]

I just made my first mod with an outfit. It's a military outfit, how can I say that I only want the outfit to spawn in areas that other military outfits spawn in?

[true vault]

Put it only in the military zones distribution tables

Good reference to learn to do so would be AuthZ

(I would pull up and post the relevant code for ya directly, if I weren't on mobile at the moment, sowwy ;-;)

I believe there's even a list somewhere in this channel of the entire list of room zones/types/definitions, and the containers they support.

You can also specify it as viable options for military zeds themselves, using the outfit defs for the military zeds

[edgy shadow]

I've added the new clothing piece to container distributions, but I mean as an outfit on a zed

[true vault]

Aye, that'll be the last point above then; you would want to add the clothing pieces as an outfit, and add that new outfit to the male and female zed outfits, for the military zed type.

[edgy shadow]

I've already made the male and female outfits, and can spawn them manually the way I want them to look using the debugger

[true vault]

(plus any variations as well, as new outfits, like if you want some to spawn with the vanilla army tshirt, your pants, no jacket, that would be a variation that needs to be a new outfit)

[edgy shadow]

I copied a vanilla military zed outfit as a base, but didn't see anything in that to say where they spawn

[true vault]

Yes, you specify that using the zed inventory dist tables

This right here: #mod_development message

Basically, you would need to add it to three things;

military zed outfits - male
military zed outfits - female
world containers appropriate for military equipment spawns

Sound like you're saying you already have the last one covered, so only the first two left.

HOWEVER, and maybe this is just me not explaining it thoroughly enough.. to add them as outfits to the zeds, you bave to create the actual outfit definitions. Then add those definitions, to the tables that control what the zeds spawn with as what they're wearing, specifically for the military zed types.

Can't just spawn the items in their inventory and expect the game to make them wear the items, if that's what you were expecting.

[edgy shadow]

I've got the outfits defined. Just need to do the zed spawns

[true vault]

So yeah, you just need to add it to the military zeds outfits tables

[edgy shadow]

I think I found the file in vanilla for this
ZombiesZoneDefinition.lua

[naive fox]

Anyone know if one can use Visual Studio Enterprise to mod zomboid, or does it have to be visual studio code?

[true vault]

Doesn't "have to be" anything; I use Sublime Text lolz

But yes, you can use any editor that'll allow you to open, edit, and save .lua and .txt files

[red tiger]

VSCode is a great medium.

Some use IDEA.

I'm in the VSCode camp.

[true vault]

Heck, you can even use Notepad for it (like regular notepad, not notepad++ even haha)

[naive fox]

Well, I use visual studio enterprise for my coding, and I'm used to VS, but would prefer not to install Code when I have enterprise :/

Just don't know which modules I'd need for zomboid.

[red tiger]

vim

[true vault]

None actually @naive fox

The .lua files open as basic text files really

[red tiger]

If you want to go conventional Lua modding, there're guides for setting up your environment.

I also manage a TypeScript environment as an alternative.

[naive fox]

Hmm, I see. Thank you~

[true vault]

As far as Lua goes, there's not really any 'environment' to set up.. they're just basic text files with a non-standard file extension haha

So simply opening the folder will do (in VS)

I also use VS (not enterprise, but the difference between community edition and enterprise, in this case, in nothing), and tried using it as my IDE for PZ mods, but TBH, I find a basic text editor to be alot less cumbersome to edit these things in, comparatively.
(plus Sublime happens to have Lua highlighting built right in anyways, so, win-win lolz)

[red tiger]

VSCode is what I use for everything except what I need to code in VSCommunity.

Java -> IntelliJ IDEA because I mainly reverse engineer.

[true vault]

I've never understood the appeal of VS Code.. Less features, and no native port for Linux/Ubuntu..
It otherwise looks decent enough, and is still more than a basic editor like sublime or notepad++, but still, I just never understood it lolz

[edgy shadow]

I think I got it figured out

local ArmyCamoUrban = {
    name="ArmyCamoUrban",
    chance=5
};
ZombiesZoneDefinition.Army[ArmyCamoUrban] = ArmyCamoUrban;```

[true vault]

table.insert(ZombiesZoneDefinition.Army["ArmyCamoUrban"], ArmyUrbanCamo) I think

[edgy shadow]

I put that in lua/shared/NPCs folder

I copied the code I have from AuthenticZ... there are some inserts at the bottom, but I thought that was just for rooms

Or general population? I also looked at the vanilla file, and just copied based on the desert camo entries I found

[ancient grail]

Copying from other mods isnt exactly a good practice. But on your case i think we can agree its cool cuz its just definitions

[true vault]

Right, but I think what you did above, if I'm thinking of it correctly, is assigning only your definition to the ArmyCamoUrban table, rather than adding it.

You're assigning instead of appending, basically

Essentially overwriting all other outfits in that table

[edgy shadow]

I think it's appending, adding a new item to an array. I'm no lua expert but that is the syntax in many other languages

[true vault]

I mean, I actually program in many other languages, and that's false... single = is assignment, not append.

[red tiger]

I mean is this nuance that important? =P

[edgy shadow]

Well then AuthenticZ has a lot wrong in there code

[pulsar heath]

hey everyone, i have a dumb question... is there a way to make an item in the players inventory invisible?

i think there was a way but cant quite recall how

[true vault]

I mean in this case it is slightly important yeah haha... if you don't want to completely overwrite something, you need to append not assign shrug

[true vault]

Unlikely; AuthZ adds alot of new types, not only adding to existing ones, so assigning to a table makes sense in that case, to populate an otherwise non-existant table.

[true vault]

Not sure the purpose, but you might be able to accomplish the same thing by simply setting a modData value on the player?

Nit sure how to make invisible inventory unfortunately lolz

[edgy shadow]

I was being sarcastic. Here's a snippet of the AZ code

local Ghillie = {
        name="Ghillie",
        gender="male",        
        chance=0.5,
    };
ZombiesZoneDefinition.SecretBase[Ghillie] = Ghillie;

SecretBase is defined in vanilla. No SQL inserts for SecretBase in AZ

[true vault]

Yeah, that's adding a new outfit called Ghillie

[pulsar heath]

was trying something out that ill do some other way

but i do recall someone saying something about making an item not listed in the players inventory

or i might be mistaken and it was on another game

[true vault]

ArmyCamoUrban is a vanilla outfit though isn't it? Your code overwrites it. That's all I'm sayin..

[edgy shadow]

ArmyCamoUrban isn't a vanilla outfit, that's the point of my mod. Vanilla lacks Urban Camo Jacket, so I made that and an outfit with it

[true vault]

Oh, well fair enough then, I thought that was a vanilla outfit, because I've seen it ingame before lolz... guess it was another mod we had installed.
What you wrote should be fine then. Carry on lolz

[naive fox]

Is there an "OnCreateZombie" event just like there's one for player & survivor? o.O

Can't seem to find it in the wiki

[edgy shadow]

hmmm, well I must still be missing something. I went to the military road block by LV. Spawning zeds with the debug horde manager and my outfit does not appear...

regular military spawns, but not my addition, so I didn't overwrite the vanilla...

[drifting ore]

she's right btw

you are adding to a non defined table or something

authz uses custom defs

so you can add to their def but your stuff has to be defined within the other parts of your code that determine which zombies wear it or something along those lines

there is a post earlier showing a semi reasonable example but for weapons spawning attached to zombies based from clothing, which is same concept minus adding the extra weapon attachment stuff based on clothing

you wont need it all but check this to see generally how it's done.
#mod_development message

pretty sure the reason for this not working is the usage of weapon attachment so you should be fine seeing what's used prior to it

[drifting ore]

i read over this so many times, did you ever figure this out?

[modern dirge]

is it possible to get the world Coords of the camera?

[tame mulch]

Why you need camera coords?

[weak sierra]

nope

no damn clue

[edgy shadow]

D'oh! So my code worked. But I had made a version that I uploaded to the workshop, and then I was still working on my original dev version. But PZ was running the unmodified workshop code.

[drifting ore]

any chance you think it could be another mod causing it?

[weak sierra]

it adds its own code and things for everything

a mod i run does override some of the animations

but that's the only thing that should collide

[drifting ore]

maybe something runs that breaks it before or something

i mean i got nothign but im throwing stuff out there

[modern dirge]

im working on a shader related to fog that but there is a world offset based on the player i think

[weak sierra]

i put it pretty long in the load order to avoid stuff too.

[true vault]

Welcome to PZ Modding! lolz.. I feel like that happening is basically a rite of passage haha

[tame mulch]

I think you can get player coords, zoom and camera offset

[modern dirge]

ah i see cameraInfo that may be it

[drifting ore]

trying to add a feature to control light strength through a couple of context options for the lightswitch mod and finish this pickup level thing and i should good to go lol... i swear im not going to think of another thing to add

[true vault]

"i swear im not going to think of another thing to add"
-cough- BS -cough-

[drifting ore]

said that 3 features ago lol

[true vault]

It's okay, if I had stopped when I originally planned with what has turned into my current mod, I woulda been done weeeeks ago lolz

[drifting ore]

[rustic garnet]

Does anybody know where is the code that renders the health tab in the character?

[edgy shadow]

Anyone know if it's possible to specify a texture for an item in an outfit? This particular item has 3 texture options.

[true vault]

Gonna need to make it 3 seperate items with a model def for each, I think.

[edgy shadow]

I know that can work, but this is for an item that I didn't create. No big deal

[modern dirge]

Thanks Aiteron, i found the camera offset

[humble oriole]

What's the best way to send a command from the server to the client without using the object system? I'm trying to have the chracter "say" something after doing an onCreate which is server side.

do I still do the ServerCommand?

[drifting ore]

woo @fast galleon lol I will credit you for sure... but seriously link your workshop or ANYTHING you want. so good

you made something i didn't even think was possible, possible, and also open the door for many other possibilities i havent even figured out yet 😄

[thick karma]

@jagged fulcrum Yo alree FYI I just posted a bugfix on your workshop page for IGM

[rustic garnet]

Is there anything specific I need to do so I can reload lua scripts in the debugger? It seems when I hit reload it doesn't often reload the script I need to quit and start again the game

[drifting ore]

not sure where chucks version went but you can use AUD
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340608427

here is the one chuck was updating from that to improve upon
https://github.com/Project-Zomboid-Community-Modding/pz-community-modding

box on the left side to open lua file explorer, can click + to favorite and then click to reload

[drifting stump]

there are a lot of quirks with reloading files in most cases backing out to the main menu is recommended

[ancient grail]

whats the syntax for offset

[red tiger]

Back to the drawing board.

Working on UML class diagrams again for my transpiler class stuff.

[quaint zephyr]

Hi. Is there a tutorial on how to get started in modding?

[tepid dawn]

Yes, there are two pretty good video tutorials on youtube and a good enough clothing mod tutorial on Steam guides

they're easy to find with a google search really

[quaint zephyr]

Yeah. ofc I googled. I ended up here though. https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/61-robomats-modding-tutorials-updated-12112013/

[thick karma]

You need to quit and restart most likely because you stayed in the debug menu reading too long.

Staying in for too long before reloading a file would cause a server timeout and boots you.

[red tiger]

Not planning is planning to fail!

[true vault]

Is there a set number of chunks per cell?

Or more accurately, is there any possible way at all to fetch a specific square and interact with it?

[thick karma]

10x10

Wait

30x30

A chunk is 10x10

A cell is 300x300

[drifting ore]

i swear a chunk was 175 tiles in and x and y from the player at all times

[thick karma]

It's not

[drifting ore]

ahh so it starts right in the first pixel?

or coord of that cell?

[thick karma]

Yes

Square = 1x1, chunk = 10x10, cell = 300x300

[thick karma]

Yes

Um

One sec

[drifting ore]

i always wondered also but never had a reason to ask i guess that makes sense also. thanks!

[thick karma]

@true vault

ZGal88 = {}
ZGal88.onClick = function(object, x, y)
    if not badSitch() then return end
    if not object.getSquare then return end

    local square = object:getSquare()
    -- Boom
end
Events.OnObjectLeftMouseButtonUp.Add(ZGal88.onClick)

(either way)

[thick karma]

Oh for some reason I thought you meant click on one

There's also getGridSquare(x, y, z) iirc.

Or maybe just getSquare

[autumn sierra]

i made some random remakes of some of the t shirt decals in better quality on canva, all of them are replacements except the circular mccoy one, what do yall think so far

never messed with modding before so im giving it a go

i figure simple retextures are gonna be easy enough, maybe even adding some new decals that can spawn

[drifting ore]

thats sick

nice

[thick karma]

@true vault Okay it's getSquare(x, y, z)

Global

[ancient grail]

how do i bend the players knee via xml? like the animation i did

and how do make this animation be able to move

its just stuck on 1 square

[red tiger]

Still going haha

[cosmic condor]

I just discovered that the PNG preview image of a mod can cause this error. I'm sharing this information for anyone who may encounter the same issue.

    at zombie.core.textures.TexturePackPage.getTexture(TexturePackPage.java:179)
    at zombie.core.textures.Texture.getSharedTextureInternal(Texture.java:630)
    at zombie.core.textures.Texture.getSharedTexture(Texture.java:528)
    at zombie.core.textures.Texture.getSharedTexture(Texture.java:515)
    at zombie.core.textures.TexturePackPage.getTexture(TexturePackPage.java:179)
    at zombie.core.textures.Texture.getSharedTextureInternal(Texture.java:630)
    at zombie.core.textures.Texture.getSharedTexture(Texture.java:528)
    at zombie.core.textures.Texture.getSharedTexture(Texture.java:515)

[red tiger]

PNG encoding probably.

[true vault]

Right, so I was looking at that and messing with it, but it didn't seem to work right.

For example, if I feed it getSquare(0,0,0) it should in theory fetch the top-left square of the map, right, and I should then be able to getObjectsList() based on that?

[tepid dawn]

No no no, not these ones. Just look it on youtube, video tutorials are always better and this shit is from 2013 ?!

there is a comprehensive video tutorial that covers many aspects which is 1.5 hour long

and a simpler one belonging to a channel named Blackbeard i think

[red tiger]

Spent nearly 100% today coding.

\o/

[tepid dawn]

i'm trying to get an icon from the base game to work on

but cannot find the icons

i looked at the xml files of clothings, Hat_ArmyHelmet has Icon = GreenArmyHelmet

but when i search for GreenArmyHelmet in PZ directory, it returns nothing

[true vault]

Just pull it from the wiki, that's what I do lolz

Wouldn't happen to be this one perchance @tepid dawn?

[tepid dawn]

Ohhh

That makes a lot of sense

Thanks

[true vault]

aha, yerp. They're in the files too, but as a pack of icons, for lack of a better word.

[tepid dawn]

And one more small question if you dont mind

[true vault]

mmm, sure

[tepid dawn]

Do I have to relaunch the game everytime i edit an icon or a texture ?

I dont need to for models but

[true vault]

Usually works fine for me just exiting to main menu then reloading save

[tepid dawn]

Oh thanks again

Im sick of disabling and enabling mods over and over again

[true vault]

Your mileage may vary on that though; I wouldn't take that as written in stone lolz

[tepid dawn]

Oh yeah If i dont see any changes in a long while ill probably just relaunch the game

Still thanks for the help though

[drifting ore]

Looking for a moder to hire. Me and 9 other PZ YouTubers are currently making a server, and we need to remove this stupid knockback when you get shot. If it will affect zombies as well, that's totally fine for us. DM me

[true vault]

Can you really call it hiring though, when you're not actually offering payment? aha

[drifting ore]

now we are
some guy donated me to help with the server

[true vault]

cool cool, best of luck then :3

[tepid dawn]

was going to ask if this was some kind of a favor or a real job, but i didnt feel like for some reason

its actually interesting there are so many ways to make some money, like i'd never imagine somebody would ever get paid for modding on zomboid but here we are

[tepid dawn]

best of luck bro

i'd like to if i had enough knowledge but im just a newbie

[true vault]

yeah, I only knew because they posted the same message roughly, last night too, but when I asked at that time, they weren't offering compensation.

I also would take a look at it, but I feel like it'll be taking up more time than I have, while I'm in the middle of something else rather huge currently.

[autumn sierra]

four more shirt decals before i'm done for tonight lol i think the woodcraft one is very fitting

[robust briar]

Mod I am working on for a server: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzSkk5nglwM

[drifting ore]

that sure is interesting

does this wipe the current as well? does it ignore safehouses? or is that the goal?

sorry for questions, just pretty awesome

[robust briar]

It wipes if there are less than the number of items configured in the container (in the gui). Yes, it ignores safehouses, and only refills original containers. It uses the same lootspawn table as well, so it follows the sandbox settings.

[drifting ore]

sure hope that sees the public lol

goodbye soft resets

[robust briar]

Was not too hard really, I just hi-jacked the "right-click -> refill" admin thing

then I remove items based on the settings

[drifting ore]

yea it's still a straightforward way and you make it easy haha. that's really the part

[robust briar]

the worst part is delays to wait for network shit, like chunk loading, and container item sync

[drifting ore]

nice job though

[robust briar]

I need to a way to export the log to a file (so it can be reviewed by QA team and such)

[drifting ore]

pretty sure you can write to a file"?

[robust briar]

Yeah, just need to think about it.. like CSV maybe?

a list of X,Y,Z and items spawned

maybe container name

[drifting ore]

sure, i think it's really based on how you'd utilize the data i suppose

csv is easy to whip into a spreadsheet quick lol

just depends on how the data ends up being formatted i suppose

[robust briar]

and its plaintext searchable too

I ❤️ CSV's

You can pipe a CSV into grep like 🎂

[drifting ore]

lol

[robust briar]

Future respawn ideas is car cleanups and burned out cars

like, delete any car that has been stripped and randomly spawn in another one in somewhere else

[drifting ore]

oh nice thats very doable. pretty sweet also. lol essentially a live chunk cleaner instead of wiper 😄

[robust briar]

Yeah, at least on our server we have random lore all over the map

[drifting ore]

all you need is something to handle zpop and good to go

lolol jkjk

[robust briar]

we have respawn on lol

its a grind

[ancient grail]

Nice

Ill add this to the tool list when its done

[ancient grail]

Is it possible to refil container that has been grief

[weak sierra]

very fancy

[weak sierra]

already did most of the legwork for that..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2871002471

[ancient grail]

His respawning container loot

[weak sierra]

would just need to change the parameters from "unseen for X time" to "condition < X"

[weak sierra]

read what i replied to lol

[ancient grail]

Ahh sorry lol

Just woke up

That vehicle respawn is useful but the print tho 😭

[weak sierra]

anyway @robust briar if you need that feature it would not be too hard to add it as an option

[weak sierra]

i swear it's on my list

:p

look

literally on the list

lol

[ancient grail]

Thnk you

[weak sierra]

that's the short list too

i had big depression times through most of december/early jan

so i wasn't super productive in that time

fell behind on a lot of stuff, and then found out sandbox options are bork and other nonsense

[ancient grail]

I understand. Please take care of yourself and try to avoid getting stressed out cuz of pz

[drifting ore]

sorry for your troubles lately and i also apologize for changing topic as well but i must ask. if there a way to just generally speaking add a timed action with no parameters except the time itself? i don't fully understand when i am reading it

[ancient grail]

I guess but what for

Just to stop the player?

[drifting ore]

i want to control craft speed by sandbox option but i can just use OnCreate maybe to add a timed action before completing craft

?

i tried using getTimeToMake() for recipe but it seems it only returns a value and can't be set or i dont know how to use it properly

then i saw ISCraftAction:new(self.character, items:get(0), recipe:getTimeToMake(), recipe, container, containers)

[ancient grail]

No setter ? Thats a shame

[drifting ore]

see that second one though

[ancient grail]

Just put the sandboxvar as time

Yep you're right

[drifting ore]

actually i mean this one
ISCraftAction:new(playerObj, selectedItem, recipe:getTimeToMake() + additionalTime, recipe, container, containers)

[ancient grail]

Your workaround sounds spot on . Well atleast for me it is

Yes whereas additional time = sandbox var

[drifting ore]

i'm trying to see if i can alter it without having to call player or selectedItem though

exactly is my thought. but setting player and selectedItem to nil doesn't work and i don't know how to skip them without calling them nil

lol i dont want to write moreee

at this rate though i have literally almost everything thought of

[true vault]

Bet you didn't think about being able to craft different coloured light switches, to control the light colour 😛

[drifting ore]

haha already in

unless you mean it working a different way

you can use battery connectors by sandbox option level, also a setting to disable players from installing them.

this is my potential workaround for not being able to control craft speed by sandbox option. using OnCreate lua

local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player)
    ISCraftAction:new(player, items,  switchSpeed-1)
        player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
        player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
        player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
        player:getInventory():AddItem(result)
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
end
``` here's hoping it works lol

hoping the sound doesn't play forever 😄

fail, well tweak this a little. someday i won't be incredibly slow at this

[fast galleon]

you're welcome

[ancient grail]

@red tiger i had this idea that we should start a thread about other programming related stuff . Idk

[red tiger]

?

[ancient grail]

Nvm

Im gona dm u why

[drifting ore]

that would actually be pretty cool to see all the updates and stuff in one place to reference. i like seeing them here or anywhere, but having them all together would be pretty sweet

also good way for people to know the extra tools available for modders that aren't the standard tools you'd use

jeez... goodluck with that

[golden sparrow]

Ooof Just contact authorithies and let them do the tracing thing i'd say

[queen sail]

This is an odd question- I remember an ammunition foraging focus, but cannot seem to find any reference to one. I am playing on a server with alot of mods, is there a mods that adds this?

[ancient grail]

Philippine governmebt is way too corrupt

I ment to keep this private but i guess i hope someone here reads this msg and decide to help.

[ancient grail]

#mod_support

[thick karma]

Hey deleting the file will not delete it on servers that already run your file. You may instead want to leave the file in your mod but empty it of code for compatibility.

I know right haha

Just wanted to warn you

Unfortunately deleting a file can cause probs

[rustic garnet]

Any good mod tutorials and resources out there?

[ancient grail]

Check the threads @rustic garnet
Its literally almost every resource out there

[rustic garnet]

Also for the client scripts if you want it to work multiplayer can you still use getPlayer or do I need to loop still through the connected players and getSpecificPlayer?

[rustic garnet]

Thank you! Didn't notice the thread 😮

[ancient grail]

If you want local then getPlayer()

[thick karma]

If 0, 0, 0 is a defined square

0, 0 may have no definition

Idk for sure

[ancient grail]

No one does

[drifting ore]

anyone know of a way to set a timed action with only using time, player, and item as my arguments? or another way to add a timed action to OnCreate D:

[rustic garnet]

Will that work on servers still though? I assume so since it's client side

[rustic garnet]

Perhaps have a messaged pinned? So that you know to go there?

[rustic garnet]

Also thanks the Resources Thread is fucking nice!

[ancient grail]

Yes
I suggest looking at vanilla and other mods(use as reference ONLY dont copy unless prrmitted to)

[thick karma]

I'm pretty sure you can create a custom timed action with any arguments

Why wouldn't you be able to?

[ancient grail]

Hes just asking if its a good idea i think

[drifting ore]

lol no idea i can't figure it out inside the recipe function yet

[fast galleon]

any square that is not loaded, will return nil

[drifting ore]

not saying much 😄

[thick karma]

Start with ISReadABook and edit replace ISReadABook with NippinAround

You have to call it NippinAround or it won't work though he lied, laughing

[drifting ore]

was trying to use ISCraftAction:new(player, nil, switchSpeed-1)

[thick karma]

I mean is crafting your goal?

[drifting ore]

yes

it's for controlling craft time of recipe

[thick karma]

I see then you could dulicate ISCraftAction and edit that instead

[drifting ore]

but i can't figure how to change that with sandbox only by manually setting in script

[thick karma]

To make your own similar action with new requirements

Uhh TimedAction must be written in Lua

[ancient grail]

My suggestion didnt work?

[drifting ore]

yes i'm using OnCreate

[ancient grail]

Put the sandbox var as param

On the time action

[drifting ore]

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player)
    local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
        ISCraftAction:new(player, nil, switchSpeed-1)
    player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
    player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
    player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
end

[ancient grail]

That is triggered by the onceeate

[drifting ore]

getting error atm

[ancient grail]

o.time=defaultTime+sandboxvar

Have you tried this?

I believe ive done something like this before but not sandbox

Someother variable based on the trait and its tested by the oncreate or context menu cant remember

[drifting ore]

no idea. ill try it

[ancient grail]

👌

[drifting ore]

it doesn't need to be ISCraftAction though

[ancient grail]

😮‍💨 back to work

[drifting ore]

i just thought it lined up and would have easily worked but i'll try something more straightforward maybe

[fast galleon]

you can intercept craft action new and edit the returned obj maxTime

just an idea if you have trouble with other options

[thick karma]

@drifting ore What exactly is your modding goal here?

Just a craft action with a modded duration?

[drifting ore]

with a duration set by server owner via sandbox. totally not needed whatsoever but also realized it's the last piece to making it pretty much fully compatible with anyone's setup also

someone mentioned issues with me using a book, so i made page length an option. and it kinda spiraled from there

this is literally the most unimportant option of them all but if i can figure it out, that would be cool also 😄

i still have to figure out how to change the light strength on the fly as well so i can create a sub context menu that lets you change the strength of the lights radius as well... 0 idea if that's even possible but i'm sure half of my day tomorrow will be messing around with it

I've gotten 90% done thanks to many great minds and a ton of my time researching and learning 🙂 . still extremely noob when it comes to all this

[thick karma]

Light radius on what light?

[drifting ore]

lightswitch

[thick karma]

Ah. Depends on where lightswitch code declares its light in vanilla

[drifting ore]

i think i can use spritemanager

and properties

ignore the above*

not 100% but i'm going to mess around with it here next if i figure out the craft speed thing or give up on it 😄

thanks to poltergeist writing that overwrite to PickUpLevel array thing. i was able to actually use it also

somehow it only has 1-5 in vanilla...

setLightPower() is what i actually meant

not sure where i thought i saw it before lol... but yea that's what i figured i'd be using to do it

[thick karma]

And you want it to affect duration for all crafting?

[drifting ore]

in this case it's going to be limted to 2 recipes

OnCreate:Recipe.OnCreate.Switch, inside each recipe

will contain my timed action and all the other fun stuff

[thick karma]

Mmm. I see. So you're already firing that event successfully? What does that function look like?

And is Recipe.OnCreate.Switch a vanilla override or what?

[drifting ore]

it's not firing correctly but will when i get the timed action setup correctly haha. this is what i'm going to try next. using global function and just calling it inside the other function in the oncreate

it's not technically an override

it's just a new function instead of using a limited one inside or recipe script

this is my new function im going to try

[thick karma]

But does the function get called? Are you that far?

[drifting ore]

function SwitchCraftAction:new(character, item, time, recipe, container, containers)
  local craftSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
  local originalTime = time
  local modifiedTime = originalTime -- add 30 seconds to the original time
  local o = {}
  setmetatable(o, self)
  self.__index = self
  o.character = character
  o.item = item
  o.recipe = recipe
  o.container = container
  o.containers = recipe:isCanBeDoneFromFloor() and containers or nil
  o.stopOnWalk = recipe:isStopOnWalk()
  o.stopOnRun = recipe:isStopOnRun()
  o.maxTime = modifiedTime
  if character:isTimedActionInstant() then
    o.maxTime = craftSpeed
  end
  o.jobType = recipe:getName()
  o.forceProgressBar = true
  return o
end

yes

getting error atm

because im not using the vanilla one the way it wants

so im just making a new one

[thick karma]

Your action should really be PascalCase not camelCase

It's an object class

It's pseudo OOP

[drifting ore]

so cap first letter?

[thick karma]

yes

just standard

[drifting ore]

appreciate that

[thick karma]

You'll see every single object class in the game works that way

[drifting ore]

prefer to learn it right way from start

[thick karma]

Every TimedAction

(Including TimedAction which is itself also an object class)

(hence not timedAction)

[drifting ore]

i'm assuming if i use my sandbox option for max time. all this convolution ends up turning it into time

[thick karma]

  local originalTime = time
  local modifiedTime = originalTime -- add 30 seconds to the original time
  local o = {}
  setmetatable(o, self)
  self.__index = self
  o.character = character
  o.item = item
  o.recipe = recipe
  o.container = container
  o.containers = recipe:isCanBeDoneFromFloor() and containers or nil
  o.stopOnWalk = recipe:isStopOnWalk()
  o.stopOnRun = recipe:isStopOnRun()
  o.maxTime = modifiedTime

This snippet sets maxTime to the original time.

Ohhh I see you redo it

[drifting ore]

yes. vanilla added 3 secs

[thick karma]

Weird

[drifting ore]

30

i could probably simplfy that a little but w/e haha

removed that comment also

[thick karma]

o.forceProgressBar is likely pointless, all Timed Actions show progress bars unless someone makes them stop doing that with code that will likely ignore your flag.

[drifting ore]

as long as it ignores lol.. about to test it now here

[thick karma]

What error do you get?

[drifting ore]

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player)
    local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
        ISCraftAction:new(player, nil, switchSpeed-1)
    player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
    player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
    player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
end
``` error was with this in vanilla and it was getting caught up somewhere int he vanill function

testing for craftfromground = true

so i'll try this for now and see if it works lol. going to cut all this stuff out except item and time

[thick karma]

Can you screenshot the error?

Also that is not how you use a timed action

but setting that aside

[drifting ore]

hahaha

[thick karma]

I need to see your TimedAction code in its entirety

[fast galleon]

yeah 🤣

[thick karma]

To see if it's even constructed correctly

[drifting ore]

lol

[thick karma]

And seeing the error would help

-- or Module.action =
local action = DualWieldAttackAction:new(player, WDW.lefthandWeapon[player])
ISTimedActionQueue.add(action)

@drifting ore

The Queue fires your timed actions

[fast galleon]

I think what you try to do would be smoother if you remove the recipe part and use context and your time action?

[drifting ore]

ahhh. alright. and yea it would but i'd like to kee3p it in line with how vanilla works for the most part

adding a perk level requirement to reading the book and other things ended up working out and was a great learning experience but i'm hoping to really try to figure this out all using the recipe and OnCreate if i can.

or OnCanPerform, but this seemed to fit better under OnCreate

[thick karma]

If your code is calling Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player) and providing you with that input, you can do virtually anything with it

[thick karma]

This

[drifting ore]

i gotta test this quick

ill share then

[thick karma]

And this

Cool

[drifting ore]

well i rewrote the vanilla and shared it

just above

ill report back ina few

[thick karma]

That's all you have?

One :new function?

You need other functions...

[drifting ore]

do i need all 5?

[thick karma]

At least perform, start, stop

isValid might be a useful one to define

[fast galleon]

derive from craft action maybe

[thick karma]

Yeah

Good call

Agreed

[drifting ore]

thank the gods lol

[thick karma]

So what is the OG craft action called again?

[drifting ore]

not 100% sure what you mean

[thick karma]

SwitchCraftAction = ISCraftAction:derive("SwitchCraftAction")

It's called ISCraftAction, looked it up

[drifting ore]

ahh

yea thats what i got it from you right

[thick karma]

That would give you all of ISCraftAction's functions

And THEN you redefine :new and you're golden

However

Your action requests a recipe, a container, and containers, and presumably needs them

[drifting ore]

can player be the container? lol

what is also the diff between each? i dont get that

that part confused me

[thick karma]

Probably not. I am not sure of the precise nature of the recipe object or where to get it... you may be able to get your container from the items object. I would look up an example of vanilla calling ISCraftAction:new and see where vanilla grabs its data / what kind of data it grabs.

[fast galleon]

hm, derive from craft could cause issues, maybe you need base action instead.

[thick karma]

e.g., in ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.lua:

local action = ISCraftAction:new(playerObj, selectedItem, recipe:getTimeToMake() + additionalTime, recipe, container, containers)

[drifting ore]

yea thats what i got my first iteration from

i left out all the args after time

[thick karma]

Where

    local containers = ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.getContainers(playerObj)
    local container = selectedItem:getContainer()

[drifting ore]

recipe:getTimeToMake is time Arg

[thick karma]

and selectedItem very well may be your items variable at a glance.

[ancient grail]

its not bad tabbing its intentional the player isnt on the Z1. his just on the Z0.. i nead to make it move on the Z1 any ideas??? pls help

[thick karma]

or something related

And recipe may be result in your code, but idk for sure

You would need to do some printing

[drifting ore]

i assumed result was my item

ill check it

[thick karma]

I have no idea what kind of object recipe and result are without printing them

[ancient grail]

i might check if thers a floor on the z1 if there is then move like that animation on the ground

[drifting ore]

yea i'll run prints

[thick karma]

Vanilla naming standards are problematic at best and not well-enforced.

[drifting ore]

before i go too deep into this also, anything that is bad enough to where i shouldnt even use it?

[thick karma]

Is it player or playerObj? playerIndex or player? Which kind of player is it? Questions like these . . . should not exist. 🙂

[thick karma]

Why?

[drifting ore]

it prints 0

[thick karma]

Result is 0?

What is 0

[drifting ore]

lol... the player

[thick karma]

I already could have told you that

In this case player means playerIndex

(and I would rename it accordingly in anything I do)

[drifting ore]

sorry i am getting tired also so i'm not as quick to the draw 😄

[thick karma]

(because calling player objects "player" in some contexts and calling the player index "player" in other contexts is whatever the opposite of smart is.)

[thick karma]

I asked for result and recipe... I'm not sure on those.

I knew player was 0 because of this:
local playerObj = getSpecificPlayer(player)

This is how the game received a 0 for player and turns it into an object sometimes

When they don't use
local player = getSpecificPlayer(playerIndex)

(the latter of which I greatly prefer)

Using "player" as a name for an index just looks bad to me and seems counterintuitive.

Come to think of it

Your CraftAction probably requires a player object.

yes it does

ISCraftAction uses character which more consistently expects an object in vanilla

Not an index

Therefore you need getSpecificPlayer(player) as part of your call, or you need to rename player as playerIndex and use local player = getSpecificPlayer(playerIndex) and use player from then on.

[drifting ore]

okay restarting again now and trying to see if it prints other stuff

[ancient grail]

Please help

🙏

[fast galleon]

RecipeManager calls and possible duplication of already done functions

[thick karma]

So I'm thinking this:

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, playerIndex)
    local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
    local player = getSpecificPlayer(playerIndex)
    local action = SwitchCraftAction:new(player, items [[???]], switchSpeed - 1, result [[???]], container, containers)
    
    ISTimedActionQueue.add(action)

    player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
    player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
    player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
end

Something like that

but you need to figure out some deets there

Obv

What is container, what is containers, if they are even necessary

Is result the recipe

etc.

[drifting ore]

no error

no stack trace at least

[thick karma]

Oops fixed player above

Meant to do that

[thick karma]

So it's not finding that function by that name

The function never gets called

Idk how to properly link a recipe to an onCreate function

Someone else may know that step

Never done that.

[drifting ore]

hmmm

[thick karma]

I would imagine you would just type the proper name of the function if it's global

[ancient grail]

Huh? Just copy the vanila oncreate code

[thick karma]

@drifting ore Is your Recipe module local?

That might be the problem

[drifting ore]

this is all within my mod

im using base module

no import just calling Base

[thick karma]

Yes and how is Recipe declared in your Lua?

You created this function, right?

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, playerIndex)

This function is inside a module named Recipe

How is that module defined?

Are you using a vanilla module?

[drifting ore]

here

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player_num)
    local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
    local player = getSpecificPlayer(player_num)
    SwitchCraftAction = ISCraftAction:derive("SwitchCraftAction")
    --SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed, Recipe.Switch, nil, nil)



local switchCraftAction = SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed, items, nil, nil)
    player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
    player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
    player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
    local player = ...
    local result = ...
    local switchSpeed = ...
    local Recipe = ...
    print("Player:", player)
print("Result:", result)
print("Switch Speed:", switchSpeed)
print("Recipe:", Recipe.Switch)
print("Switch Craft Action:", switchCraftAction)
end

i can also just delete the nil completely in theory? iu understand if it comes before i may need it to call nil, but after?

this is called here btw

module Base
{

    recipe Right Light Switch {
        keep Screwdriver,
        keep Wrench,
        keep Scissors,
        Wire=10,
        ElectronicsScrap=25,
        DuctTape=4,
        Screws=10,
        Prop1:Screwdriver,
        Prop2:lighting_indoor_01_0,
        NoBrokenItems:true,
        AllowOnlyOne:true,
        OnGiveXP:Recipe.OnGiveXP.DismantleElectronics,
        AnimNode:Disassemble,
        Sound:VehicleHotwireStart,
        OnCreate:Recipe.OnCreate.Switch,
        Result:lighting_indoor_01_0,
        CanBeDoneFromFloor:TRUE,
        NeedToBeLearn:true,
        Time:1.0,
        Category:Electrical,
    }
        recipe Left Light Switch {
        keep Screwdriver,
        keep Wrench,
        keep Scissors,
        Wire=10,
        ElectronicsScrap=25,
        DuctTape=4,
        Screws=10,
        Prop1:Screwdriver,
        Prop2:lighting_indoor_01_0,
        NoBrokenItems:true,
        AllowOnlyOne:true,
        OnGiveXP:Recipe.OnGiveXP.DismantleElectronics,
        AnimNode:Disassemble,
        Sound:VehicleHotwireStart,
        OnCreate:Recipe.OnCreate.Switch,
        Result:lighting_indoor_01_4,
        CanBeDoneFromFloor:TRUE,
        NeedToBeLearn:true,
        Time:1.0,
        Category:Electrical,
    }
}

[thick karma]

If the nils aren't needed by the action, yes

[drifting ore]

ahh gotcha

[thick karma]

But if they are assumed to exist, they may call functions on themselves

And if they are assumed to exist in the action code and do call functions on themselves

But you didn't provide them

Your computer will actually burst into flames

That's what really happens, it's science.

[drifting ore]

okay going to try this then

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player_num)
    local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
    local player = getSpecificPlayer(player_num)
    SwitchCraftAction = ISCraftAction:derive("SwitchCraftAction")
    --SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed, Recipe.Switch, nil, nil)



local SwitchCraftAction = SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed)
    player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
    player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
    player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
    local playerr = ...
    local resultt = ...
    local switchSpeedd = ...
print("Player:", playerr)
print("Result:", resultt)
print("Switch Speed:", switchSpeedd)
end

i had capital letter issue

think that might be why it didnt call the function...

[thick karma]

Hahahaha no no no

Oh dear

Give me a second to help clarify something

[drifting ore]

i fixed those prints also since i fixed them on my end also

so not keep calling same loca

[thick karma]

THIS line is used to create an object class, which is a class that gets used to create instances of objects.

When you have an object class, you use it to create instances of objects that inherit the features of that defined class.

[drifting ore]

i thought i was deriving so it would use it's own

[thick karma]

So if you have Dog = Animal:derive("Dog"), then Dog acquires the characteristics of an animal, but neither Dog nor Animal refers to a SPECIFIC dog or animal

They refer to the TYPE of thing and the characteristics that such a thing would need to define

So SwitchCraftAction = ISCraftAction:derive("SwitchCraftAction") creates a TYPE of a thing called a SwitchCraftAction

It does NOT create the thing itself.

It does NOT create the action you need in the Queue.

[rancid panther]

is there a particular reason why mods have trouble with audio falloff range? it seems like the audio is at full volume no matter how far you are from the action

[thick karma]

When you WANT such a thing (an action for the Queue), you need to do something like:

local switchCraftActionThatINeedToQueue = SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed)

[drifting ore]

i dont think audio falloff is implemented in all or many things

omg

i see what you mean

[rancid panther]

but how about custom weapons? wouldnt it be basically done for you already

[thick karma]

This creates the action of the appropriate type.

[thick karma]

.

[drifting ore]

so i have to use it how it's designed no matter how it's being used/called

argh lol okay well i guess there are a couple concepts i'm sturggling on picking up

and these are the things i've spent the most time researching

[thick karma]

It is not trivial. People are given months or a year to digest these fundamentals in school.

But you do need to internalize it to use TimedActions correctly.

As they are heavily OOP

(In fact this game's Lua is heavily object-oriented)

So knowing your classes from your instances is crucial

[thick karma]

Generally speaking the game does respect the standard of using camelCase for instances. This is reflected e.g. in ISTradingUI.instance, ISSafehouseUI.instance, ISFactionUI.instance, etc. The classes containing the instance objects above (which are sometimes called object classes because they're used to make objects, as opposed to a static class which is just accessed directly as a library of functions) is PascalCase, but the instance itself is camelCase.

[drifting ore]

so the object is the instance of class and the class is like what tells it how it's going to work?

[thick karma]

Yes

And "object class" really just means "class", but the kind used for making objects.

Hopefully one of these ways I've said it is clear... Haha

[drifting ore]

yes. i may not grasp every single thing you are stating here. but i assure you while im doing more research and learning, i will reference back to this stuff and lightbulbs will happen

i do get a majority though

[thick karma]

Putting the instance of an object class IN an object class is pretty unusual practice in OOP though, just FYI... the game sort of has a hybrid approach here, where the classes used to make objects also provide static references to the last object they made sometimes.

[drifting ore]

been struggling finding a good source of knowledge that isn't the lua handbook since it still feels like the subtle difference in just standard apis and usage. i just dove right in

[thick karma]

Also, I think Zomboid Lua is pretty heavily influenced by Java practices, soooo there's that to consider.

It's a unique context so I wouldn't really expect it to 100% generalize.

[drifting ore]

yea i noticed i can call java functions and variables straight from lua

still wrapping my mind around how this works exactly also. keep in mind.. (hate to be that guy also) but i hadn't typed a string of code until around a month ago. so even little things that help me understand are appreciated

[thick karma]

Yes. You will also notice that the java functions (that are written by people who knew what they were doing) are all camelCase because Java has very clear, publicly declared standards on that.

Unlike Lua, which is a bit of a cluster because it hasn't even told people whether to write simple variables in snake_case or camelCase.

Let alone all the other standards it would be wise to declare.

[jaunty marten]

snake_case

[thick karma]

You will see a lot of Lua floating around the internet that DOES favor snake_case @drifting ore, however, I would strongly discourage it in this context, because you're literally fighting the standards of the game and sowing confusion and inconsistency in new people who follow your code by doing so.

[drifting ore]

I try my best to be consistent

[thick karma]

Being a Java-based game, Java standards are the most logical standard on which to base your decisions, since, again, Lua has no standards for this.

And reflecting that obvious conclusion, most game files work that way