mod_development

[pulsar heath]

and enough for me... is like the basics...

never again will i make mods with UI

[fast galleon]

It's like riding a bicycle, only need to learn it once.

[pulsar heath]

yeah you never forget... but you will still crash regularly 😄

almost done with the testing... so far so good... no errors no impact on performance

[uncut meteor]

is there a way i can overwrite a mod original code

[bronze yoke]

if it's in a global/returned function you can just overwrite the function

otherwise you can overwrite the entire file by making one with the same name and directory and messing with the load order

[uncut meteor]

Ok thx

[stone garden]

i wish my mod ideas happen

at least one of them

[zinc pilot]

at this point I'm lost, is there anyone that could help me with BodyLocations stuff?

I've got a custom body location to manage amputations, just added at the end of the body locations so it shouldn't affect item rendering

except it does

for a while, it didnt

[spare knoll]

do you have the fbx file for the large backpack?

and are you using blender

[zinc pilot]

sorry, I'm not modifying anything backpack related, I'm applying a mesh to show an amputated limb on the right arm

with a custom body part

[spare knoll]

oooohhhh

[zinc pilot]

should have been clearer

[spare knoll]

No, It's fine

[zinc pilot]

m_masks shouldn't affect clothing afaik

and I'm trying to null everything else mask related

for some reasons, in some saves it works, in some other it doesn''t

I'm not sure what I'm missing

[uncut meteor]

over 10k lines but atleast working

[pulsar heath]

im trying ( and its working kinda ) to create a UI Element that is "animated"... for now i have a timer running and when i trigger the function it changes the texture in the ui everytime the timer reachs 0 (timer has around 2 seconds duration ) and loops until the counter is 5 ( around 10s animation ).

am i just complicating whats already easy to do some other way? Is there a better way to do this?

[sour island]

If you're doing it in render you're probably fine

[pulsar heath]

yup doing in render

render is always running, that made my life easier when changing the amount of elements in the UI without player interaction

[spare knoll]

Do you have an FBX file for the Large Backpack? I am trying to make a different model for the large backpack through blender and I believe I need the FBX file to import.

[sour island]

I don't do models, sorry

[spare knoll]

ah ok..

[ancient grail]

#modeling

[ancient grail]

Try again tommorow and the day after. Infact spam every hr

[pulsar heath]

ok ok... needs some improving but atm i can get the image from a twitch user account send it to the mod, and do some basic animations messing with another elements alpha ( another image )

[stone garden]

Ok i will speak less here

[pulsar heath]

so this way i can change the player say to that animation with some text related to the event triggered

[ancient grail]

ProccessMsg i forgot the syntax

But you can check the ISChat i think

Or just use Halo

@pulsar heath

[pulsar heath]

yeah im using halo for the temporary traits

but for zombie events and heli events i want to do something... different

[ancient grail]

No one else sees this msg tho

Just the player itself

Im not sure if there a way to make other see it

[pulsar heath]

yeah but thats not the point

[ancient grail]

Maybe a sever to client event might read others saying it

Ow ok

[pulsar heath]

its not related with if only the player sees it

or if everyone does

[ancient grail]

Then just type what he wants to say

[pulsar heath]

im trying to do something like the alerts we use on twitch

like a sub alert and stuff like that

[ancient grail]

Use servermsg

[pulsar heath]

hmmm

ill have to make a video or gif perhaps its better to understand my objective

[ancient grail]

client server msg

     local myMsg = "hello world";
SendCommandToServer(string.format("/servermsg \"" .. myMsg  .. "\""))

[pulsar heath]

but ill simplify what im trying to do: i have right now an animated heli or jet for the EHE events bought via twitch

[ancient grail]

Idk what else is there. Proccess msg
Servermsg say halo

[pulsar heath]

running in game... the jet crosses the screen from left to right has has a "banner" behind with the name of the viewer that bought it

[ancient grail]

Ah then thats UI

[pulsar heath]

yup

im doing it all in UI

replacing the player says

🙂

[ancient grail]

Ok i dont know anything about that anymore goodluck hehe

[pulsar heath]

kinda works... a bit janky

but ill sort it out 😄

[ancient grail]

Im sure you will figure it out

[pulsar heath]

as of now the jankyness is in the movement of the ui

its... not fluid 😄

[crystal pollen]

Does anyone know if AllowRandomHue or AllowRandomTint or a similar command, works non-clothing objects like pillows for example.

[ancient grail]

You might have gotten a syntax wrong

A file thats not suppose to be part of the mod.

Wrong directory structure

Or you have something wrong with your game files verifying files will fix this

[polar thicket]

I fixed that long ago already

But thanks

I found out what I did wrong

[ancient grail]

🤔 this a good question . No idea

[ancient grail]

Nice

[pulsar heath]

Using this for the air events 😄

mslug rules

[ancient grail]

DCMA

Lol

[pulsar heath]

i doubt they will care enough

[atomic river]

does anyone know how to make a mod pack including various mods for easier download?

[ancient grail]

What we do for our server is
We use spreadsheet
There you can enter the

mod id | workshop id
column 1 | column2

The. It will auto create two cells containing the merged list of both that you can easily copy and paste
The whole thing

This would make placing and removing mods easier

Idk a t the steam collection feature i think they gave that where you can group em so its easier to sub and resub ithink.. idk how it works ihavent tried that

[weary forge]

Would it be possible to make a mod that shows the "remaining" Zombies under the kill counter? I normally play without any respawn and i am curios how much progress i am making 😄 (Playing on Insane population without ramp up. First week and i am 4k zombies in. xD)

[fast galleon]

Last person who tried says it couldn't be accurate.

[bronze yoke]

it's not something i know enough about, but i can't think of a way to do it

[ancient grail]

it cant be done afaik if you look at the zeds population data there are zeds that are virtual local remote and ithink theres more

but if you test it out and figure out whaqt thoes are then maybe we can figure out how to merge the zeds

or like do the math of it based on the spawn rate if its not random

[onyx sage]

I need someone to help make a few mods for my server im working on (PAID)

[weary forge]

Hmm gonna fish around the debug mode and see what values are exposed to count against

[small topaz]

has there been a recent vanilla update?

[ancient grail]

https://imgur.com/jwFvLQe

[uncut meteor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2911874981
Finished anyone intreasted of changing spawns of Aresnal(26) mod you can use this mod for it , works in MP

[onyx sage]

any mod devopers that could either point me in the right direction or i could maybe hire?

[bronze yoke]

next() is not available?

it's apparently implemented in kahlua so i'm a little confused by that

[small topaz]

did the zomboid devs recently removed the feature that you can cook food with rotten ingredients??

[bronze yoke]

you need a high cooking level

[small topaz]

I have now the situation that I cannot craft jars when having rotten food in my inventory even I have enough fresh food to craft them too.

is this a known issue? I could swear that a few weeks ago, this was not a problem

[sour island]

do you have any mods changing jarring behavior?

[small topaz]

no. I tested vanilla. even after a fresh install!

[ancient grail]

<m_2DBlends referenceID="3">
<m_AnimName>Bob_Idle</m_AnimName>
<m_XPos>0.00</m_XPos>
<m_YPos>0.04</m_YPos>
<m_SpeedScale>0.80</m_SpeedScale>
</m_2DBlends>

[sour island]

sounds like the onTest / onPerform might need to be fixed/changed

[ancient grail]

anyone know show to use that

[small topaz]

it's crazy. I could swear that this problem wasn't around a few weeks ago. I am working on a mod changing the jarring behavior and playtested the system quite deeply. now, I have this strange issue without any mod...

maybe I only playtested stuff with high cooking skill and therefore didn't notice the problem. but definitely seems to be a vanilla bug...

[honest shard]

there's a mod to chain zeds like Michonne? or to lock'em down?

[stray yacht]

Quick easy question I think, is there a place in one of the txt files that I should declare dependency on another mod? I've listed the dependent mod on steam but wonder if there's anything I should do in the mod as well to help people notice the dependency

[ancient grail]

U plan to make that? @honest shard

[honest shard]

I wish I could, I don't know how can do that. I'm currently making a sound mod tho

I have a zombie I don't want to kill, I need a mod like that rn

[ancient grail]

If you require it on the steam page it will show its required before they can sub the other mod thats require will popup and ask to be downloaded too

[ancient grail]

This is the mod dev chat . We talk about developing mods here

#mod_support

[bronze yoke]

in your mod.info use
require=modid

[ancient grail]

But just so you know zed is hard to manipulate and it will need you to like configure probably the groupings on the sandbox

[bronze yoke]

if you have multiple separate them like this
require=modid,modid (don't add spaces between them)

[ancient grail]

And make em like always attract to each other by noisewhich would be difficult to control

[stray yacht]

ah awesome, thanks albion!

[zinc pilot]

there is a OnBeingHitByZombie event on the wiki but it seems like it's obsolete, is there any alternative?

OnWeaponHitCharacter?

[ancient grail]

OnHitCharacter

Character can be zed you or other players

Ow wait i could be wrong

[zinc pilot]

You're talking about OnWeaponHitCharacter

and no

it doesn't work

zombies do not trigger it

[bronze yoke]

you can use onplayergetdamage but it's not 'precise'

depends if you need it to *only* run when hit by a zombie or not

although that event is super laggy so be careful with it regardless

[ancient grail]

You cant isolate the dmg comming from the zed. Why did that zedhit event got removed

[bronze yoke]

a lot of the 'obsolete' events were just never implemented

some of them aren't even events

all the hooks are listed as obsolete events on there

[zinc pilot]

it's not in the lua events page though

[bronze yoke]

wiki is old

[zinc pilot]

oh, perfect

thanks for the help then

[bronze yoke]

i have notes about it here

it literally gets called every frame, often multiple times every frame, while you're taking any damage, so it's only useful as like a last resort for catching things and not a consistent 'zombie damage' event

[ancient grail]

Adding this to the list of reference

[zinc pilot]

that's fine for what I need then

do you know what variables are passed to it?

[bronze yoke]

in the message i linked

[zinc pilot]

today I'm blind, nvm

[bronze yoke]

i wanted to write a more up to date event guide (since the wiki can't really be updated) but it's a lot of work, probably need to automate it to a certain degree and i don't really know anything about that

[ancient grail]

Nice

[bronze yoke]

probably in the same format as my hook guide

[ancient grail]

Ill add that to the reference list once its finished

Pls link of hook guide

[bronze yoke]

https://github.com/demiurgeQuantified/PZ-events-guide/blob/main/Hooks.md

[zinc pilot]

ok wow you weren't kidding, every single blood droplet calls it

[ancient grail]

Added it

[bronze yoke]

yeah, you literally get a call for every negative health change, most of which happen every frame, for every BodyPart it is happening to, *and* the BodyDamage as well

[zinc pilot]

not getting the body part there kinda sucks

[orchid carbon]

Hey all, I'm brand new to modding, no coding experience to speak of, and I'm looking to get help with figuring out a component of a project. Mostly just trying to figure out how to determine what exactly gets returned by things like getTimeOfDay and getDawn.

I'm trying to get the mod to determine if it's daytime, and return true if it is. I assumed getDawn returned a time and I could just compare it with greater than/less thans to the getGameTime, but it doesn't seem to work that way.

getDawn and getDusk, that is.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[ancient grail]

Look at the foraging lua
It has a function that does that @orchid carbon

[orchid carbon]

alright... where would I find the foraging lua?

[ancient grail]

media/lua

Not sure where exactly

Or what it's called
You might need to have your id index your folders so you can just search easily

#mod_development message

If you need references

[orchid carbon]

Thanks. I'll try to slog through it, its just hard as a non-coder to understand what other coders intend the code to do without really good commenting.

[bronze yoke]

it looks like getClimateManager():getSeason():getDawn() is used instead

[ancient grail]

So the event you wrote here not ont he events lost for some reason
Did you just make them

[bronze yoke]

they aren't events, they're hooks

[orchid carbon]

Alrighty. And that returns a number that can be compared to getTimeOfDay?

[bronze yoke]

yep, that's what the code i found it in does

[vast veldt]

Does the game assign a unique, immutable ID to vehicles? I've just tried to capture a reference to a vehicle using the getId() method of https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/zombie/vehicles/BaseVehicle.html, however, after disconnecting and logging into the server again, I get a different value (I got 247 originally, now I get 251).

[bronze yoke]

gametime's dawn/dusk are integers and i don't see any indication that the game actually updates them with seasons and stuff, they might just be a relic

[ancient grail]

I remember skizot tried this before but dont know if he manage to figure it out.. but afaik they say itsbuggy

[orchid carbon]

Alrighty, I'll try using the seasons version and see if that fixes it. Thanks!

[bronze yoke]

BaseVehicle:getSqlId()

[ancient grail]

@faint jewel you manage to solve your vehicle id problem before

[faint jewel]

huh?

there's a what now?

[ancient grail]

The one u wanted to capture the id

Long time ago

[faint jewel]

yes i know!

i am reading my boy!

[drifting ore]

what would i need to do to obsolete an item? i cant seem to remove an item i want from distribution

[zealous cosmos]

Hi, are there any devs here with audio/ai-audio/tts knowledge? I've created a mod with talking zombies -> twitch chatters can make them talk through twitch chat. I'm using google cloud, but the voices there are much to clean

[abstract raptor]

How does this mod work?

[nimble spoke]

Copy the item script and add obsolete = true

[zealous cosmos]

websocket to twitchchat, analyzes messages, if it encounters the tts command, it makes a call to a small backend component to fetch a wav file and run it on the zombie (zombie.getEmitter().playSound(wav)).
The small backend just sends some voice and audio parameters and the text to google cloud tts service

[abstract raptor]

wowza! That's pretty epic actually. Whish I knew how to help you with the AI voices -- but I suspect if you wanted something better, it might be something you'd have to pay for I'm guessin', most free text to speech sites are pretty clean/robotic sounding

[drifting ore]

MechanicMag1: Obsolete = true``` is this correct?

oh copy the item script

[zealous cosmos]

gc seems a good niche - for the basic product I would pay peanuts. Free test account with 300$ for 3 months. But once you go way from basic products, you pay big $$$.
I've seen a project for tts on bulldogs github account. But I haven't done anything yet with Python and AI.

Any hints are appreciated.

The problem with bulldogs tts: it's entangled with plenty of other services on his gh account + no/not enough docs. I don't know where to start

[small topaz]

when I have a string of the form "Base.MyItem" which refers to an item defined via the script.txt, is there an easy way to retrieve the string "MyItem" from it?

so just deleting the "Base." in the prefix?

[bronze yoke]

if you know the module is always going to be the same you can just trim it that length

otherwise you have to do some weird regex (or whatever lua uses)

you can probably just trim using string.find to find the . actually

[nimble spoke]

Local mytext = luautils.split(text, ".") [2]

[small topaz]

lua has a method called string.gsub for this. I just thought that there might be a pz java command for this situation...

[ancient grail]

its probably not what you are looking for but i saw this so i thought you might find it useful idk

function ISSpawnHordeUI:getZombiesNumber()
    local nbr = self.zombiesNbr:getInternalText();
    return tonumber(nbr) or 1;
end

[fast galleon]

that's a curious case, where do you need that

[fast galleon]

isn't that the number you type in the box to spawn zombies?

[ancient grail]

getPlayer():getStats():getNumVisibleZombies()
getPlayer():getStats():getNumChasingZombies()
getPlayer():getStats():getNumVeryCloseZombies()

[ancient grail]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-who-knows-gif-17348455

[sour island]

@fast galleon Looking into the registerWindow() stuff and the intended behavior is the windows that were open will reopen onCreate - I suppose the issue is registering the window leads to it being 'nil' on death?

[fast galleon]

I don't understand what you mean. It's main purpose is to save the layout for next time. But it also keeps the instance cached to save it on exit, so they don't get garbaged

[sour island]

Using the registerWindow in your PR leads to the debug windows not being open on create new character

[jaunty marten]

there're exists such funcs? have nver seen lul

[fast galleon]

you added registerWindow

[sour island]

to the vanillaOpen yes

[fast galleon]

I added ISDebugMenu.RegisterClass(_class)

[sour island]

. _ .

[fast galleon]

It closes the UI on player death

[faint jewel]

Is there wa way to disable sneaking when holding a certain item?

i mean the "stop player from running while holding stuff" doesn';t work.

it says it does but it dont.

you can TOTALLY sprint even when it says you cant.

[sour island]

I mispoke a bit but I'll retest it - what I was seeing was that on death the windows close (good), but on creating a new player the windows that were open don't reopen.

but the windows that were opening on their own did not open on their own atleast

[fast galleon]

ah, so you'd like to keep the instances saved

[sour island]

If possible yes, I'd like the debug "setup" so to speak to come back

The issue isn't present when relogging - only seems to happen when you die and make a new character

I'm guessing there's something I missed in the new() for isoregionwindow and generaldebug

[dark wedge]

players have the setSneaking(), setRunning(), setSprinting() functions. Might need to just set these repeatedly OnPlayerUpdate or something when you have an item equipped.

[bronze yoke]

can't sprint, can jog

[faint jewel]

i wanna force them to walk when carrying heavy stuff lol.

[fast galleon]

@sour island
so this, but keep the instances

function ISDebugMenu.OnPlayerDeath(playerObj)
    for _,class in ipairs(ISDebugMenu.classes) do
        if class.instance then
            class.instance:setVisible(false);
            class.instance:removeFromUIManager();
            class.instance = nil;
        end
    end
end

[sour island]

Yeah, I made my own version of the func so far

But now another issue cropped up

[fast galleon]

It should be the same for all ui you open, not only those two.

[sour island]

well it's still using the new() of the original classes

and those are kind of all over the place

[drifting ore]

Im setting the items as obsolete and they still spawn in game? ```module Base
{
item MechanicMag1
{
Obsolete = true
DisplayCategory = SkillBook,
Weight = 0.1,
Type = Literature,
DisplayName = Laines Auto Manual - Standard Models,
Icon = MagazineMechanic1,
TeachedRecipes = Basic Mechanics,
ReplaceOnUse = MechanicMag1,
Tooltip = Tooltip_item_MechanicMag1,
StaticModel = Magazine,
WorldStaticModel = MagazineMec1Ground,
}

[bronze yoke]

Obsolete = true line should have a comma at the end

[drifting ore]

ty

[sour island]

I wonder if I could use layout and just use a different variable than visible to track if it was open or not

[fast galleon]

@sour island

        --ISDebugMenu.RegisterClass(_class)
        Events.OnPlayerDeath.Add(function() _class.instance:close() end)

[sour island]

that's a bit slicker than what I had

function generic.OnPlayerDeath(playerObj)
    for req,args in pairs(generic.overwrites) do
        require(req)
        local _class = _G[args[1]]
        if _class and _class.instance then
            _class.instance:close()
            _class.instance = nil
        end
    end
end
Events.OnPlayerDeath.Add(generic.OnPlayerDeath)

hmm

I got it working but I'm not sure at what point

I'll remove the = nil to check

interesting

with =nil removed this is what I get

the only windows I had open was cheats and stats

@fast galleon Appreciate the help, added your PR and name for credit

[red tiger]

Always fun.

Time to work on some PZ commissions I've had backlogged. =)

[sour island]

backlog? damn I'd feel so much anxiety 😅

[red tiger]

Heh. They like my work. =)

Also some are friends.

I try to let people know every now and again that I have a market for commissions but not many used it.

I'd like to see people in here who work really hard on their hobby projects get rewarded. =)

Also me lol

Mainly the work I get is bug-fixing or updating older mods.

[sour island]

I'v been using Kofi for comissions but there isn't a way to accept/decline - it's all instantly accepted and money upfront

Probably where my anxiety stems from lol

[bronze yoke]

that's so scary

[weak sierra]

don't do anything unless they talk to you first

<_<

[red tiger]

Yikes

[sour island]

I set the 'stock available' to 0 after the first one came in

it was 1 fortunately

[nimble spoke]

That will completely remove the item from the game

[red tiger]

Time to debugggg

[queen sail]

Is there any way to fix the bug that causes Walkies to only work if players have met each other, by changing who has access to get all players?

Perhaps a sandbox setting?

[weak sierra]

i wish

im equally annoyed at that change.

if not moreso

it's possible that a java mod on the server end might be able to fix it

anyway

though that's irritating in its own ways

[queen sail]

You think there may be a server end thing that could be changed?

I have gone through the sandbox settings and the .ini because i heard there may be but i have not found anything- I am curious if there's any i missed or any files i missed

oh you mean a java mod on the server end i misread

[weak sierra]

yeah

there's no setting

i' begged them to add one, as im sure u saw in the support thread

this is terrible for all RP servers

and any servers that wanna VC without discord involved

[queen sail]

oh shit yeah you're The Guy lmao

I have established just now that by making somebody admin they are able to send and recieve voice messages once they are no longer admin

[weak sierra]

yes

they were attempting to prevent non-admins from getting a list of player positions

because a specific scenario in which a hacker could teleport between players and kill them rapidly

this seems pointless to me because if they can teleport between players they already have access and this probably would not stop them, plus you can just java mod the client to bypass most limitations

but i don't decide their priorities

if i were them id've made it an anti-cheat setting or something, at least.

[queen sail]

Do you know how one might go about java modding the client to fix them?

[drifting ore]

Decompile. Fix . compile. Distribute manually

Not ideal which is why no one jumping on it

[queen sail]

I'm not very literate with code and i kinda get what you are saying but not entirely

[red tiger]

👍

Looks like I need to get back to updating CraftHammer for server-side plugins.

Someone also asked me to look into the bugs for walkie-talkies a while ago.

I'm guessing the bug is still around.

[limber oar]

I'm back with another episode of "probably made a stupid mistake and need someone to point it out for me."

Long story short, I have different items spawning based on sandbox options, and so I need to run the distributions file after loading said sandbox options. I have it linked to OnInitGlobalModData, which works fine in other cases. But while the file works fine when not in a function, it's not spawning items once I wrap it in a function and wait for that event.

Is there any reason why this wouldn't be working?

require "Items/ProceduralDistributions"
require "Vehicles/VehicleDistributions"

local function modnameSetDistributions()
    -- This works fine when it's not wrapped in the function / triggered on event.
    table.insert(ProceduralDistributions.list["BedroomDresser"].items, "modname.clothingitem");
    table.insert(ProceduralDistributions.list["BedroomDresser"].items, 0.05);
    etc.
end

Events.OnInitGlobalModData.Add(modnameSetDistributions)```

[weak sierra]

it's only useful if it's server-side-only unless you have a small technical userbase lol

i suspect the walkie thing can be fixed server-side since it works fine for admins atm

[limber oar]

I hypothesized that because the file load is being delayed the vanilla distribution file (which loads first) is just taking over, but I'm not sure if that's actually true.

[queen sail]

Is there a particular server side file that I may want to look at for a setting to switch like other zomboid files? Or will Java not be as easy to read as Lua

Is it something in here?

[weak sierra]

don't use sandbox options for distributions, the sandbox options aren't loaded at that point in the load process

you CAN force them to load code-wise

but presently all mods that do that just.. placebo..

[limber oar]

So there's currently no way at all to affect what might appear in a container based on sandbox options?

[bronze yoke]

just call ItemPickerJava.Parse() at the end

[limber oar]

End of the Event function, or literally the end of the file?

[bronze yoke]

at the end of the event function

[limber oar]

So:

    table.insert(ProceduralDistributions.list["BedroomDresser"].items, "modname.clothingitem");
    table.insert(ProceduralDistributions.list["BedroomDresser"].items, 0.05);
    etc.
    ItemPickerJava.Parse();
end```
?

[bronze yoke]

that's right

[limber oar]

truly an angel

thanks for the help :)

[queen sail]

Would it not be as easy to find in the java file as in the Lua files?

[limber oar]

Shouldn't expect anything otherwise at this point, but it worked perfectly. Thanks again.

[orchid carbon]

LUA event question - when I use OnGameBoot to load a profession it works fine when someone is making a character the first time, but it does not load that profession if they die and make a new character without restarting. Is there an event which does similar things as OnGameBoot but applies to character recreation after death as well?

I'm slowly working my way down the list on the wiki of events that sound like something that works at any character creation, but figured someone here might be able to save me some time. 😉 Much appreciated if so.

[bronze yoke]

i think usually people just hook the vanilla profession function for that

[orchid carbon]

Alright. I'll look at another mod that adds professions and see how that works then. Thanks!

[fresh geyser]

Just throwing out a concept here for a child trait along with some concept art

Negative Trait
-3 Strength
-1 Fitness
+2 Nimble
+3 Sneaking
+1 Sprinting

Personally would pretty much exclusively use this to emulate a Joel and Ellie duo.

Clementine and Lee too

[queen sail]

Does anybody know a way to change server files so that all players can getOnlineUsers?

to fix walkies

[limber oar]

Would be great if someone could figure out a way to deform the player models -- make 'em smaller, etc. Or has this been done already?

[cosmic condor]

how did you fix the floating bag?

[fresh geyser]

Sorry to disappoint it’s not in game

Though I’ve explored the issue

You would need to create new clothing items with different connecting points

Same with hats

So child exclusive clothes and items

[cosmic condor]

yes, that's a lot of headache

[limber oar]

I mean, that in and of itself makes sense from a realism perspective. Most adults can't just wear children's clothing and vice versa.

I actually considered making a "clothing sizes" mod just to make scavenging for outfits a bit more involved than purely "does this look good on me"

Add a small mobility debuff or something for clothes one size too small/large and then make anything more than one size out completely unwearable

[fresh geyser]

Still it’s technically doable

Just tedious with hats and bags

[sacred matrix]

I'm working on a mod that needs custom sprites for the a custom world object. I think I need TileZed but when I launch the Linux version from the forums it errors out with:

Error renaming file!
From: 
To: /home/jaql/.TileZed/Tilesets.txt

Invalid cross-device link
(while reading Tilesets.txt)

Is TileZed the right tool? Is there documentation on setting it up?

[cosmic condor]

you can get the tool from steam https://steamdb.info/app/380880/

[sacred matrix]

That's Windows only...

[cosmic condor]

oh... no idea then 😅

[dark wedge]

Are you on Linux or Mac then?

If you're on Linux, can run it with Proton via Steam. Not sure how stable it is as I don't use this often, but it loads.

[sacred matrix]

Ah, is there a way to get to it in Steam?

That said I'm a C++/Qt dev. I found the GitHub and could fix the crash, but I'm not a GitHub user so I don't know where I'd send the patch...

I'll figure something out. Just a bit of a faff to simply add a tile...

[dark wedge]

You can get it in Steam, just make sure that you have "Tools" enabled in your Library and you'll find the "Project Zomboid Modding Tools". If you right click on it in your Library and choose "Properties" -> "Compatibility", you can choose to run it through Proton. This is assuming you're on Linux. ha

[sacred matrix]

Awesome, it works - that at least unblocks me on the modding. I'll see if I can patch the bug as well. This mod description might end up having a rant in it 😛

[ancient grail]

Na dont waste too much efforts on rant.
Atleast you got it working

[humble oriole]

can you only have one item module per modID?

[bronze yoke]

no, no restrictions like that

[humble oriole]

Man a single } hangs the whole server haha

[ancient grail]

yea thats just normal for me.. i always make mistakes like this whenver im copy pasting from another file to another file like piece by piece or like converting from a script into lua variables

[humble oriole]

Yea, I was refactoring our server's items and shops and everything into separate mod IDs and when I was splitting the recipes into their own files I missed a closing } aahah.

[queen sail]

does anybody know where in the java files i would be able to change permissions for getOnlineUsers or getOnlinePlayers so that walkie talkies can do voip again

Alternatively could i make interested parties admins and or observers, allowing them permissions to see players connected, and just have them disable godmode and invisibility

[pulsar heath]

good morning

having mine right now... brain cant function before having coffee

[ancient grail]

🍻

[pulsar heath]

the plane flies... kind off

it looks like a drunk fly on a bad winters day

but it goes through the animation cycle

😄

[ancient grail]

[pulsar heath]

oh and i finally got to test dynamic traits branch in the more traits mod

thinking about adding some stuff to the twitch integration, gonna make the char trip and have a panic atack stuff like that

[queen sail]

Is there any way to either allow regular players to access player info or to limit the abilities of mods so they can't sprint infinitely?

[jaunty marten]

is there a correlation between the two questions?

[queen sail]

Yes, i want to fix walkie talkie VOIP on my private server and the thing that is broken is that players cannot draw user data unless they have been physically close to the player they are drawing from, and pulling that data is how the voip over talkies works
However mods can pull player data, and disable godmode on themselves and it seems like they can still interact with locked doors, however they can sprint at max speed infinitely and idk how to disable that

I either need to give players the power or take a different power away from observers

[pulsar heath]

i would like to help, but i cant make sense of what you are asking

[tardy wren]

How do I mark a mod as a required?

[pulsar heath]

@tardy wren i did that for one of my mods but cant remember how

lemme check my notes

[queen sail]

I want to use the in game voice chat over walkie talkies
That feature broke a few patches ago because a function of the game was restricted to moderators, specifically the ability to pull user data of people on the server
I do not think i can change the game's files so that the function is re-enabled for players so I want to either enable that feature, or disable a feature of being a moderator
because my other option is to make everybody a moderator and just let them play like that with god mode off
But mods can sprint infinitely and i want to disable that

[pulsar heath]

in your mod.info just add require=MODid

[tardy wren]

That may require javamodding

[tardy wren]

thanks

[queen sail]

Yeah i think it does and that's where i'm stuck so i'm trying to find alternatives or workarounds

[tardy wren]

boycot IndieStone harder?

Though it didn't work when we tried when it first was released

[tardy wren]

question

playerModData['DaikonPanic_ZombieKills']
What if I do this when That index isn't defined

[thick karma]

It'll just be nil

[tardy wren]

alright

[thick karma]

Hey does anyone do UI stuff who is awake?

[cosmic condor]

yes, but only by tiles replacing not by coding

[faint jewel]

what are you needing burryaga?

[pulsar heath]

working on ui atm

if is there anything i know, ill happy to share

almost done with animating a UI element

using still images extracted from a gif

still a bit janky but... it works

😄

[faint jewel]

yikes lol

[pulsar heath]

but tbh i dont think this will be viable

[faint jewel]

animated pngs not available?

[pulsar heath]

it will probably impact perfomance a lot

i just extracted the images from the gif into png format

and in animates 6 frames

1 per second

and loops back

[faint jewel]

1 fps?

[jaunty marten]

depends on the question 🤔

[faint jewel]

what is it?

[pulsar heath]

1 fps yes

total 6 frames, 6 seconds animation

[faint jewel]

but... why? lol! zomboid slug?

[pulsar heath]

using that as a test

simple small and simple animation

[faint jewel]

true.

[jaunty marten]

what kind of bullshit you have to do in pz...

best game

[pulsar heath]

i do what i want in the game my friend

if you dont like it, thats just your problem

[faint jewel]

vishnya is just playin lol.

[jaunty marten]

why r u bulling me

https://tenor.com/view/why-u-bully-me-bully-gif-15364456

[pulsar heath]

here comes the victim, i just said i do what i want, its not your concern and thats bullying? just block me or ignore me and youll be happier... i will im sure

[jaunty marten]

why would I want to block you? I just said in pz u even can't render gif format and u should create shit like animation via pngs. u really things I want to hurt u someway? bro.. u trolled urself

just chill, lol

[pulsar heath]

i misunderstood you then, sorry about that

Events.OnRenderTick.Add(functionName) i thought this would be a good event to call the timer function but i guess i was wrong

[jaunty marten]

it's fine

[pulsar heath]

and i cant put the frame changer in the :render ...

[jaunty marten]

wdym?

[pulsar heath]

tried it, it just didnt update the render properly

but i can try it again... i've changed the fram changer function... maybe that was the problem and not having in the render

yup it was the function... but still kinda janky

but better... kind off

nop... the game cant handle it 😄

[jaunty marten]

btw if I got right in pz no render order, right? all render divides to 2 parts: world and UI, and for second all elements is panels? worked before only with render in panels and didn't check how to render, for example, just simple text somewhere

[pulsar heath]

it has to be outside of the render

i use panels mainly

even for text

at least the way i need to use it

second

[jaunty marten]

cos as I remember there's only panel objects have draw methods, no global ones so... seems right

[pulsar heath]

function STATSTab:render()
    local player = getPlayer()
    local KillModData = player:getModData().AKCModData
    local alivefor = player:getTimeSurvived();
    local zkills = player:getZombieKills()
    local fkills = 0
    
    if KillModData then
    fkills = KillModData["fk"]
    self.KillCount = true
    end
    
    if self.leftside then
    if not self.KillCount then
    self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/calendar.png"),0,-15,70,70,1,1,1,1)
    self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/zedkills.png"),0,25,70,70,1,1,1,1)
    self:drawText(alivefor,55,10,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large);
    self:drawText(tostring(zkills),55,45,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large);
    else
    self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/calendar.png"),0,-15,70,70,1,1,1,1)
    self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/zedkills.png"),0,25,70,70,1,1,1,1)
    self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/firekills.png"),0,65,70,70,1,1,1,1)
    self:drawText(alivefor,55,10,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large);
    self:drawText(tostring(zkills),55,45,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large);
    self:drawText(tostring(fkills),55,85,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large);
    end```

it was the only way to change the ui on the fly

was using the children method

but that isnt very flexible ...

plus this way it allow to add and remove elements on the fly when certain conditions are met

like in my mod, since everyone was asking for fire kill count... i just used the data from another mod that does that already and is well coded

so no point in doing something that already exists, i rather make a require in my mod

[jaunty marten]

I remember, while have been creating new mod, draw methods don't use panel bounds and render context can be free outside of panel bounds, so maybe it's fine to create panel with 0, 0 size and use draw methods on it

[pulsar heath]

yup

im doing something like that

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2629062026

the panel is only the size of the icons

so it can be dragged around

the text appears oustide of the panel with no problems

[jaunty marten]

cool, so then there's way to draw smth "without" panel

[pulsar heath]

yeah if you define the size 0,0 the only stupid thing you have to do is to use "weird" xy locations, since the element xy is based on the panel size

[jaunty marten]

I can set pos 0, 0 too and just use screen size to get position

[pulsar heath]

im just getting the width of the panel and base on that adding or subtracting x and y values on the elements

    self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/zedkills.png"),self.width-55,25,70,70,1,1,1,1)```

thought about using the screen size but this way no matter the resolution the ui itself will be on the right place

it will prolly work with the screen size as well but this was simple and easy to implement

when i say the ui itself i meant the panel elements 😄

nop, the function to change the frame cant be inside the render

the game ends up not responding 😄

[jaunty marten]

for panel context it's fine, yea, but for my way to draw smth somewhere by (0, 0, 0, 0) panel it won't work

ha-ha

[pulsar heath]

never tried it with 0 size

mine are 60x120 and 60x80

just big enough to have the icons inside and 1 or 2 px border for when you "anchor" the panel to the screen limits

if 0 doesnt work you can always make it 0,0,1,1 😄

so 0x 0y 1w 1h

[jaunty marten]

when started with pz modding anchor was nothing for me, I literally can't get how it works until check in pz source

always have did in manually but in pz for it is anchor

useless discovery for me xd

too strange way

[pulsar heath]

the problem with pz modding is the lack of proper documentation and no standard in a lot of things

you wanna do this the syntax is this way the naming logic is x

the next thing you wanna do the naming logic is totally diferent or the syntax changes

so its more digging throught the damn file to make sense out of how thing works than it is actually coding the mod

its like 4 or 5 hours digging around the vanilla code then around 1h to actually make the code you want..

[jaunty marten]

but while I tried to find anchor I found that pz surprisingly have stencil functions

at least some good news

[pulsar heath]

are they exposed?

that would allow to do animations easier and less prone to impact performance

[jaunty marten]

yea, I already saw some mods that uses them

[pulsar heath]

hmm i need to check those out then

[jaunty marten]

but don't know how much of it tis provide to us

just know there they are but didn't use yet

[pulsar heath]

a good thing would be a pz "IDE" to test stuff out

[jaunty marten]

pz ide?

[pulsar heath]

an "interpreter"

[jaunty marten]

I mean pz ide = in-game ide?

or... ?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar heath]

a tool, a modding tool

something for you to test UI code and crap like that

without having to do it ingame

[jaunty marten]

ah

[pulsar heath]

all the math functions and stuff like that are easy to test without running the game, the UI

....

[jaunty marten]

I think will be too complex to create such thing with ALL logic from pz

[pulsar heath]

and i crashed the game again

😄

[jaunty marten]

[pulsar heath]

im sure theres a event in lua that will allow me to do this

but... which one...

maybe OnPostUIDraw?

even if the render tick made more sense

ill give that one another try

[jaunty marten]

can u show the code? I can try to do smth

[pulsar heath]

print("----------------LOADING AniMOD UI ------------------")
local aniframe = 1
function AniModUI:initialise()
    ISPanel.initialise(self)
end

function startanimodui()
    AniModUI = AniModUI:new(900, 250, 90,48)
    AniModUI:addToUIManager()
    AniModUI:setVisible(true);
end


function AniModUI:new(x, y, w, h)
    local stats = {};
    stats = ISPanel:new(x, y, w, h);
    setmetatable(stats, self);
    self.__index = self;
    stats.title = "AniModUI";
    stats.background = false
    stats.moveWithMouse = true
    return stats;
end

function AniModUI:render()
        self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/" .. tostring(aniframe) ..".png"),0,0,90,48,1,1,1,1)
        
end

function AniModUI:onRightMouseDown(x,y)
print("------------ r mouse click -------------")
self:removeFromUIManager()
self:setVisible(false)
end

function stopanimodui()
AniModUI:setVisible(false);
AniModUI:removeFromUIManager()
end

function updateTimer()
local calendar = PZCalendar.getInstance()
return calendar:get(Calendar.SECOND)
end

function myaniTimer()
        local second = updateTimer()
        local endframetime = second + 1
        while endframetime >= second do
        if endframetime > 60 then
        break
        end
        
        second = updateTimer()
        if endframetime == second then
        
        aniframe = aniframe + 1
        if aniframe == 7 then aniframe = 1 end
        
        break
        end
        end
end

Events.OnRenderTick.Add(myaniTimer())```

[jaunty marten]

render gif as a few pngs is a shit but for pz it's fine XD
interesting to try

can u give frames too?

[pulsar heath]

still need to replace that break for some logic about the seconds value

but for now i just want to see it run 😄

[vague raven]

Is there a function for preloading chunks?

[fast galleon]

kinda, nobody uses it because it's not safe. that's what I heard last

[vague raven]

Just having a problem with teleporting players above z0 as they'll just fall through the floor and take fall damage

[pulsar heath]

thats just an homage pz devs made to skyrim

it isnt a game until a player can fall through the floor

sorry for the bad joke 😄

[open drum]

good morning fellow modders

I have a question about a clothing item that i made

I tried to add a flag to be worn on the back

so I made an item with following variables

imports {
Base
}
item CFlag
{
DisplayCategory = Accessory,
Type = Clothing,
DisplayName = Beavers Flag,
BodyLocation = UnderwearTop,
Icon = CLbeavers,
ClothingItem = CFlag,
WorldStaticModel = CFlagGround,
}

I tried BodyLocation= Back (but this didn't allow me to wear a bag at the same time)

Thus I tried underwear, necklace, neck, LeftWrist, and also ZedDmg

necklace, neck, LeftWrist these locations cut my item render into wierd shape

when it suppose to look like this

Ive tried ZedDmg which worked great flag + Bags however, I couldn't take the flag off. When I do take off, i can place it on the ground but game still shows that it's attached on my back..

Could anyone help me if there's any simple solution for this?? I would like to wear both flag and rest of items;including bags at the same time

[jaunty marten]

@pulsar heath first ur problem is Events.OnRenderTick.Add(myaniTimer()) 😄

[pulsar heath]

yeah not using that anymore

plus the timer fucntion is a bit frankensteiny 😄

[jaunty marten]

local delay = 0.1
local change_frame_time = os.time() + delay

function myaniTimer()

    if change_frame_time < os.time() then

        aniframe = aniframe % 6 + 1

        change_frame_time = os.time() + delay

    end

end

Events.OnRenderTick.Add(myaniTimer)

[pulsar heath]

you have access to os in pz?

[jaunty marten]

sure

[pulsar heath]

i thought i didnt thats why im using the pz calendar 😄

[jaunty marten]

he-he

[pulsar heath]

oh that makes things a lot simpler and less impact on perfomance

so you got it to work?

[jaunty marten]

yep, works well

[open drum]

oh wow that's amazing

[pulsar heath]

awesome

and its on the onRendetick event?

ok ok now i can finish this crap

[jaunty marten]

as I sent, yeah

[pulsar heath]

i need to change my other mod then

to use os.time

no need for bloated functions anymore

you just made my day

[open drum]

that's so cool m3ss

[blazing vine]

Its trying to use a mask I think, try doing the body location as a scarf.

[jaunty marten]

I used os.time for benchmark lib but it not so good, will be so cool to get highly accurate time by any way

mb do u know such func?

[open drum]

ill try that thanks

[golden sparrow]

I think you're supposed to use timestamp in console log

[pulsar heath]

hmm

[jaunty marten]

at least in console time saves just in seconds

I sure it's just formatted but there's used not highly accurate time func, think so

[pulsar heath]

never even remembered the timestamp

but for this, accuracy is secondary i think

[jaunty marten]

even os.time returns time with millseconds but this func not so accurate

[pulsar heath]

as long as it works without having to much impact in the game performance

[jaunty marten]

mb some function that returns time since game/server starts will be more accurate

but yet don't know such one

[open drum]

this worked wonderfully

but can't wear it with the scarf

[pulsar heath]

well thats smoething they should think about adding in the future?

a timer function

[open drum]

is there a way to make an extra body part to wear somthing

[golden sparrow]

Isn't it in tick ?

[pulsar heath]

thats not related with anything else

[open drum]

or make ZedDmg bodypart refresh?

[jaunty marten]

I done timer lib too but used os.time

[golden sparrow]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding there's a 'A Note Regarding Optimization and Timestamps' that discuss it here

[jaunty marten]

nope

it's seconds past the unix epoch

[pulsar heath]

@jaunty marten this will do just fine, now just need to make the movement bit, mess around with the alpha a bit and im set

[jaunty marten]

cool

[pulsar heath]

and update my integration mod to use os time

that cuts around 40 lines of code 😄

i was convinced that os wasnt available in pz lua dunno why... never even tried to use it

i think someone told me that?

whatever... im happy... another step in the right direction

[ancient grail]

Ooooo i want to use this too

[pulsar heath]

😄

[ancient grail]

How many ssprite frames it would be cool if you hover then it animates

[pulsar heath]

whats stopping you?

[ancient grail]

Idk how yey

Yet

[pulsar heath]

just detect the move hover and trigger the code

thats what im doing in one of my UI's

it should be a way do to it on game objects

[ancient grail]

I see it now

[jaunty marten]

don't forget to cache textures 🙏

[ancient grail]

When i find the use for this ill gove credit to you thnx

[ancient grail]

How

[pulsar heath]

me and @jaunty marten

he fixed the function to change the frame

[ancient grail]

Nvm ill just learn that when. Cuz i dont need it yet

Yeah sure vishnya always gets credit on my code cuz lua timers a staple code for me

[jaunty marten]

local textures = {
[1] = getTexture(...),
[2] = getTexture(...),
[3] = getTexture(...),
end

:drawTexture(textures[...], ...)

[jaunty marten]

glad to hear, btw I hope u remember that timers going even when game paused 😄

[ancient grail]

I dont care about SP very nuch

So no worries abt that

[pulsar heath]

now the sound...

@ancient grail werent you making a mod with a chainsaw?

that looped the sound?

[ancient grail]

Why

Its done

[pulsar heath]

how did you loop the sound?

[ancient grail]

You need the code for surio

Ok wait

            if not getPlayer():getEmitter():isPlaying('chainsawLoopsfx') then 
                getPlayer():getEmitter():playSound("chainsawLoopsfx");            
                addSound(getPlayer(), getPlayer():getX(), getPlayer():getY(), getPlayer():getZ(), 50, 50) 
            end
        elseif handWeapon:isBroken() then
            getPlayer():getModData()['chainsawDBG'] = nil                     
            if getPlayer():getEmitter():isPlaying('chainsawLoopsfx') then
            getPlayer():getEmitter():stopSoundByName('chainsawLoopsfx')
            end
            ISTimedActionQueue.add(ISUnequipAction:new(getPlayer(), handWeapon, 10))    
        end

[pulsar heath]

thank you

[ancient grail]

function chainsawLoop(pl, chainsaw)
        if pl:getEmitter():isPlaying('chainsawLoopsfx') then
        pl:getEmitter():stopSoundByName('chainsawLoopsfx')
        end
end
Events.OnEquipPrimary.Add(chainsawLoop)

[ancient grail]

🫡

[red tiger]

@ancient grail You should really store that player object and call it. (Makes the code long and is vulnerable to wasteful calculations when grabbing objects in general)

local player = getPlayer();
local emitter = player:getEmitter();

-- ...

    if not emitter:isPlaying('chainsawLoopsfx') then
        -- NOTE: Could probably tuple these. 
        local x = player:getX();
        local y = player:getY();
        local z = player:getZ(); 
        emitter:playSound("chainsawLoopsfx");            
        addSound(player, x, y, z, 50, 50);
    end
elseif handWeapon:isBroken() then
    player:getModData()['chainsawDBG'] = nil;
    if emitter:isPlaying('chainsawLoopsfx') then
        emitter:stopSoundByName('chainsawLoopsfx');
    end

    ISTimedActionQueue.add(ISUnequipAction:new(player, handWeapon, 10));    
end

[pulsar heath]

now to build a decent animation adding more elements to the UI

and make one for the helis and zombies events 😄

[drifting stump]

are you taking into account render speed?

[pulsar heath]

render speed?

[drifting stump]

you can change ui fps so some people may be running it at higher values

are you accounting for that in the animation?

[pulsar heath]

the animation is based on a real time timer

and its like 1 fps

oops

6

its prolly more than that

but i dont think it will be an issue

[jaunty marten]

need to find better gif cos looks not so good

[pulsar heath]

since its a timed function to change between 6 images

yeah this one is for testing

now to get decent images

and make my own

and maybe cut the images number from 6 to 3

[jaunty marten]

even 6 too laggy, 3 will the hell

[pulsar heath]

thinking about using something like this for the zombies event

[ancient grail]

Right.. the thing is when im still writing the code i often copypaste verbose debug
And do optimizations later

Who am i kidding i never really cared abt that yet 🤣

[red tiger]

Clean as you cook my friend..

[pulsar heath]

dunno to what point using a better "animation" will impact the perfomance

[red tiger]

FPS won't matter much here. The main villain in the UI code is the update() method. It is very slow.

[pulsar heath]

the ideal would be at least 16 images

[red tiger]

You should use a OnTickEvenPaused() Event-hook.

This is how I get around this limitation for my HTML render engine project.

[pulsar heath]

to pause the animation if the game is paused?

[drifting stump]

like ive said before update ticks at a fixed rate

while render and prerender tick every ui frame

[pulsar heath]

this is meant to be a simple thing

just plays the animation doesnt care if the game is paused or not

[drifting stump]

theres no need for updating animations on tick when you already have the perfect hook with render

[jaunty marten]

OnRenderTick ?

[pulsar heath]

Events.OnRenderTick.Add(myaniTimer)

[drifting stump]

dont use events for this

[red tiger]

I'll argue that it is not wise to mix update code with render code, however in PZ's case, render code for UI is on the main thread...

[pulsar heath]

ui in pz is a pain to work with

[jaunty marten]

btw @red tiger do u know in pz some accurate time function instead os.time? for benchmarking

[drifting stump]

os.time is the best you can get

[pulsar heath]

i dont see any other way to do what i want to do without using onrendertick

[red tiger]

There will be cases where it is a good idea to use the event. It's good to know about it as an alternative while respecting update code being in its own thing vs render code being in its own thing.

[jaunty marten]

[red tiger]

Sec

[jaunty marten]

😮

[drifting stump]

ive asked the devs for a nanosecond timestamp but alas nothing

[pulsar heath]

print("----------------LOADING AniMOD UI ------------------")
local aniframe = 1
local delay = 0.1
local change_frame_time = os.time() + delay
local AnimPosX = 1400


function AniModUI:initialise()
    ISPanel.initialise(self)
end

function startanimodui()
    AnimPosX = 1800
    AniModUI = AniModUI:new(AnimPosX, 250, 90,48)
    AniModUI:addToUIManager()
    AniModUI:setVisible(true);
end


function AniModUI:new(x, y, w, h)
    local stats = {};
    stats = ISPanel:new(x, y, w, h);
    setmetatable(stats, self);
    self.__index = self;
    stats.title = "AniModUI";
    stats.background = false
    stats.moveWithMouse = true
    return stats;
end

function AniModUI:render()
        self:setX(AnimPosX)
        self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/" .. tostring(aniframe) ..".png"),0,0,90,48,1,1,1,1)
        self:drawText(tostring(AnimPosX),55,85,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large);
        if AnimPosX <=0 then stopanimodui() end
end

function AniModUI:onRightMouseDown(x,y)
print("------------ r mouse click -------------")
self:removeFromUIManager()
self:setVisible(false)
end

function stopanimodui()
AniModUI:setVisible(false);
AniModUI:removeFromUIManager()
end

function myaniTimer()
    if change_frame_time < os.time() then
        aniframe = aniframe % 6 + 1
        change_frame_time = os.time() + delay
        AnimPosX = AnimPosX - 10
        end
end

Events.OnRenderTick.Add(myaniTimer)```

[jaunty marten]

I hope Jab know the some secret

[red tiger]

Oh yeah nano? Nah.

They don't have an exposed API for it.

I can add this to Crowbar.

[drifting stump]

yeah every exposed timestamp was ms

[jaunty marten]

u need to update X pos in some other event, not in function with 1 seconds delay

[pulsar heath]

yeah that would make it more smooth

[drifting stump]

i had a really efficient animation system need to find where it is

[jaunty marten]

[pulsar heath]

but atm while im building this up it will have to do

first the blueprint then the fiddling and improving

[jaunty marten]

[pulsar heath]

im probabbly gonna end up making a panel with the screen width

and move the elements inside of it

and not the panel itself

[red tiger]

    @LuaMethod(name = "nanoTime", global = true)
    public static long nanoTime() {
      return System.nanoTime();
    }

[jaunty marten]

[drifting stump]

hmmmmm

[red tiger]

Added it to CrowBar.

That method is not in the game without modding it so don't try it.

[jaunty marten]

waiting for ur tool

[drifting stump]

local time, totalTime, frameCount = 0, 0, 0
    local function OnPreUIDraw()
        time = getTimestampMs()
    end

    local function OnPostUIDraw()
        local milli = getTimestampMs() - time
        totalTime = totalTime + milli
        frameCount = frameCount + 1
        print(string.format("UIFrame took %.0fms to render", milli))
    end

    UIProfiler = {}
    function UIProfiler.start()
        totalTime, frameCount = 0, 0
        Events.OnPreUIDraw.Add(OnPreUIDraw)
        Events.OnPostUIDraw.Add(OnPostUIDraw)
    end

    function UIProfiler.stop()
        Events.OnPreUIDraw.Remove(OnPreUIDraw)
        Events.OnPostUIDraw.Remove(OnPostUIDraw)
        print(string.format("Average UIFrame render time: %.3fms", totalTime/frameCount))
    end

remove the print on postuidraw for a more accurate reading prints slow things down a lot

let it run for a while before you stop because the minimum time it can represent for each frame is 1ms

more samples gives a better average of the real performance

[tardy wren]

Phew. You ever break the game so hard it refuses to load to the main menu?

[drifting stump]

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896285374165418016.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[pulsar heath]

not even i managed to do that

[red tiger]

Also remember that the time it takes Lua to convert from Java and execute pcall will also affect the times.

[pulsar heath]

but i make it crash a lot 😄

[red tiger]

I've made the game stackdump, not stacktrace.

[tardy wren]

What does that mean

[red tiger]

It means I made the JVM very angry.

[tardy wren]

I see

Hmmm

My submod didn't load in the sandbox settings

Its translations did override the base mod's but it should've added an extra option which isn't showing up

Failed to parse...

option DaikonGeneralAnxiety.MoodleListMoodleFramework
{
    type = string,
    page = DaikonGeneralAnxiety, translation = DGR_MoodleListMoodleFramework,
}

Why did it fail to parse this?

I didn't miss a comma at the end did I

[ancient grail]

I have this idea of sort ranking system but only based on days survive
It will change the players name and everyone should be able to see the color change
Is it possible?

[jaunty marten]

I'm not sure if it's on lua side but if yes then u can try to override get player name method
about color change idk, I think there's just a color without reference

[ancient grail]

Ayt thnx

[red tiger]

Only if you mod the server's Java code to send another name to the client.

[ancient grail]

No way im gonna do that. Lol

[jaunty marten]

yea btw I think if even override name method on lua side other features can be broken due to usage from java no lua

[tardy wren]

Well, crud, I fixed the mod option but now the translations load in the wrong order

[pulsar heath]

dumb question is there a way to name the elements inside a panel?

[drifting stump]

?

[pulsar heath]

im adding ui elements manually

        self:setX(AnimPosX)
        self:drawTextureScaled(getTexture("media/ui/" .. tostring(aniframe) ..".png"),0,0,90,50,1,1,1,1)
        self:drawText(tostring(AnimPosX),55,85,1,1,1,1, UIFont.Massive);
        if AnimPosX <=0 then stopanimodui() end
end```

[drifting stump]

those arent elements

those are draw calls

[faint jewel]

it warms me heart to see browser talking code again.

[pulsar heath]

ok, is there anyway to name the drawcalls?

[drifting stump]

no

you could have another uielement drawing that but youd just be moving the draw call somewhere else

[pulsar heath]

i guess il make 2 panels and manipulate everything inside each panel

or something even simpler... thanks @drifting stump

[drifting stump]

draw calls are as simple as it gets

[pulsar heath]

yeah im saying simpler in what i want to do

[drifting stump]

as always refer to https://github.com/Browser8/PZ-Server-Points for a proper ui implementation

[pulsar heath]

ill frankenstein some code and post it so you can at least try to understand wth im doin'/talking about

i doubt that covers what im trying to do but will have a look

[tardy wren]

Hmm, so now it loads the lua correctly

But my function is now nil?

How do I reference a function from a different file across a global table?

I'm making a submod that will provide a function, and the main mod should only call it if the submod is loaded

I did something like this

local daikonGeneralAnxiety = daikonGeneralAnxiety or {}
local DGA_extraAnxietyMoodleFramework = daikonGeneralAnxiety.DGA_extraAnxietyMoodleFramework or nil

[drifting stump]

you could make a module exposing your main mod

[tardy wren]

In the main mod

[drifting stump]

then require it in your sub mod and add the function to the module

[tardy wren]

So... Have my main mod have a dummy function that the submod will override?

[drifting stump]

could

could also not

[pulsar heath]

bit by bit ill get where i want... i hope

[tardy wren]

Bowser you're not helping

[drifting stump]

local MyModule = {}

local function doTheThing()
    if MyModule.subModFunction then
        MyModule.subModFunction()
    end
end

return MyModule

local MyModule = require("TheFileContainingTheAbove")

function MyModule.subModFunction()
end

there you go

[tardy wren]

thank you

[fast galleon]

error not a table

[drifting stump]

fixed

[tardy wren]

To require multiple mods, I need to put them after a comma?

[drifting stump]

in the mod.info?

[tardy wren]

yes

Oh are you kidding me

My mod didn't load because a mod it depends on loaded later in the order

[tawdry moss]

Is there a way to have the “read sheet of paper/journal” UI show up without the player having access to the paper? I’m trying to make a mod that allows using the computers as a sort of chat room for multiplayer and I can’t think of a way to display the saved messages

[drifting stump]

ah yes one of my many projects

a fully functional pc

you probably want to make a custom ui

[tawdry moss]

That’s not something I really want to do though. I guess I could try it.

For a different mod I’m making, is there a way to override the speed penalty imposed by injuries? A mod I’m working on will include a lot of drugs, and I want morphine to make players temporarily unaffected by speed penalties from injuries, but I don’t know how to do that

[pulsar heath]

that would be awesome

ok, got everything working... apart from the sound

but time for a break

[drifting stump]

i need to get the base ui elements for the community framework done before anything else

but im not happy with the way it is now

[red tiger]

mmmm I love it.

If you need insight I could possibly provide some.

[drifting stump]

yes please im banging my head against this

[red tiger]

UI is such a pain if you don't know how it's designed from the bottom up.

I've probably spent around 400 to 500 hours doing UI code in PZ since 2015.

[drifting stump]

im working on the base for all uis

a new uielement class

[red tiger]

Why not simply work with me with Crowbar? My goal is to write a new UIElement Java class.

[drifting stump]

i want annotations to not show every single method available and actually act like a class

[red tiger]

I'm planning to add draw calls for things like circles and other useful bits.

Also the HTML render engine project. <3

[drifting stump]

if you call on the class only static methods should show up

[red tiger]

PipeWrench. :D

The real reason I wrote PW was for UI.

That's the white paper for it.

[drifting stump]

and if you call an instance then youd see everything like render update etc

[red tiger]

I'm glad to see someone else taking action to improve the UI API.

[drifting stump]

this should only show for instances aka the return of new

[red tiger]

Lua?

[drifting stump]

of course

[red tiger]

I guess IntelliSense can be used for Lua.

I know about EmmiLua but not this.

[drifting stump]

this is derived from emmylua

[red tiger]

Ah ok.

It's beneficial regardless of choice.

[red tiger]

Now we have two languages with documentation as options.

I planned on baking in my own third-party documentation to UIElement when finishing up what PipeWrench is right now

So our priorities are aligned. xD

[jaunty marten]

🥺

[red tiger]

Hey you know the project is open-source right?

https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench-UI

I simply need more time to get to it. =(

[jaunty marten]

I thought it's still on dev branch

[red tiger]

It's not ready yeah. (Not close)

[jaunty marten]

(private)

[red tiger]

But the framework's basically there.

[jaunty marten]

yea, cool, will check

[red tiger]

I paused when I started writing CSSChain. (My attempt at rulesets and order of CSS rules)

You can easily argue that a bit of it isn't organized in a way that would be better however most of it is documented to all hell.

@jaunty marten This is the example file so far: https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench-UI/blob/main/src/client/example/ExampleUI.tsx

[drifting stump]

i could have a table of static and another of instance methods then do some metatable magic

but might not be very user friendly adding functions to those tables instead of the main one

[red tiger]

Surprised that TIS didn't place drawPolygon in UIElement. It's currently in RadialMenu.

[drifting stump]

---@class CFUIElement
local CFUIElement = {}

CFUIElement.InstanceMethods = {}
CFUIElement.StaticMethods = {}

setmetatable(CFUIElement, CFUIElement)
CFUIElement.__index = CFUIElement.StaticMethods

function CFUIElement.StaticMethods:new()
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, o)
    o.__index = self.InstanceMethods

    return o
end

something like this

[jaunty marten]

awesome 👍

[red tiger]

I won't be offended if you end up critiquing it. It's a WIP.

[jaunty marten]

nah, it's fine

[drifting stump]

@red tiger think something like that would work or too complicated for newcomers to extend the class?

[red tiger]

Like what? Pre-made element types would make things a lot easier.

Typescript / Lua would then be used to manipulate those elements much like how JavaScript is used to on websites.

[drifting stump]

before i get to any pre-made element i need to get the super class done

which is what im working on

[red tiger]

Oh, I'm talking about my stuff.

[drifting stump]

this

[red tiger]

I plan on writing things like ```html
<radialmenu onclick="..">
<option />...
</radialmenu>

[drifting stump]

but that will have to get translated to lua code

which is what this is addressing

making the lua side of things actually usable

[red tiger]

https://typescripttolua.github.io/docs/jsx#custom-factory-functions

[red tiger]

Lua API is doable even if written in Typescript.

I wrote my own CSS parser.

I can also write an HTML parser.

[drifting stump]

i dont like ts

[red tiger]

The goal is to be able to use it in Lua too.

[finite radish]

why?

[red tiger]

I mentioned it above. I'm writing a HTML render engine for UI design in PZ.

[finite radish]

oh, I was initially thinking something like SASS/SCSS/etc. but I think I see what you mean now, you wrote a parser for the game to parse CSS

[drifting stump]

well this works flawlessly now its just a matter of how user friendly it is for extending the class

[finite radish]

depends on what you mean by extending the class, derive should work perfectly normally with the syntax there

unless you're asking how he's going to handle that in typescript, which is a good question I suppose

[drifting stump]

we talking about completely different things XD

im rewritting the entire ui base

[finite radish]

that's irrelevant, plenty of non-UI stuff uses inheritance in the base game

unless by "extension" you mean something else entirely

[drifting stump]

youre a bit lost XD

im rewritting it all

the way inheritance works atm has issues with documentation

[finite radish]

how so?

also I'm not really lost, just asking you to clarify

[drifting stump]

given any ui class

in fact ill examplify

im operating on the class yet its showing me instance methods

[red tiger]

This is of course my personal opinion, however as big as ISUI is in PZ's Lua codebase, ISUI needs scalability with error checking / strong types / object types.

[drifting stump]

only static methods should show up

[red tiger]

IMHO ISUI should be rewritten as TS.

[pulsar heath]

agree

[drifting stump]

typing is solved with the documentation

[red tiger]

Both options requires work.

[finite radish]

you're using a colon, so wouldn't you be operating on an instance there (that'd be shorthand for CFUIElement.<function(CFUIElement)> wouldn't it?)

[drifting stump]

no because of the way the inheritance mechanism works

[stone garden]

guys

i figured the issue why superb survivors doenst work in mp

[drifting stump]

new and derive are static methods yet they still need self to make the inheritance work

[stone garden]

with my friend that know coding

soo the issue is obvious the npcs dont spawn in mp[

[drifting stump]

yes they dont theyre too afraid of you

[drifting stump]

(When we call Account:new, self is equal to Account; so we could have used Account directly, instead of self. However, the use of self will fit nicely when we introduce class inheritance, in the next section.) [...]

https://www.lua.org/pil/16.1.html

to understand the mechanism behind it

[red tiger]

Keep in mind that Kahlua isn't real Lua and is 5.1. (You may know this but others don't)

[finite radish]

oh I see what you're saying, the implementation that ISBaseObject uses has its constructor set up via :new() rather than .new(), so that causes issues with static encapsulation

[drifting stump]

no

[red tiger]

.new is a thing Kahlua does with Java objects.

:new is the pseudo-class implementation that TIS uses for Lua code.

[drifting stump]

the column is needed to make inheritance work in lua

[stone garden]

dude im saying the truth

[drifting stump]

but conceptually the method is static

it doesnt operate on an instance of the object

[stone garden]

i just found the issue

[red tiger]

It's a silly nuance that trips people up when they start modding PZ.

Thank goodness that I can rid of that nuance in Typescript using @customConstructor

[finite radish]

no, the difference exists in lua - : is for functions that pass self as an argument, . is for anything that doesn't (or that explicity passes self)

[red tiger]

Exactly. I'm saying this.

[finite radish]

but you mentioned Kahlua/TIS's implementation, that's what threw me off - it's not specific to that

[red tiger]

I've clarified already that Kahlua uses .new for Java classes that are exposed.

[ancient grail]

x and fbx

https://imgur.com/jeB9ytG not smooth but will work on it (personal proj this time)

its just shove

[sour island]

heh nice

[ancient grail]

]so its never gonna be solid unless i do somehit reaction to the zed

idk how to do that via xml so i guess ill have to do it using lua

🙏

[finite radish]

right, but the discussion we're having is about why inheritance with ISBaseObject won't work for static methods

and I think the reasoning is that ISBaseObject makes a mistake in using :new() when it should be .new() and identify self as a new object within the constructor, rather than assigning the metatables/meta flags to the ISBaseObject class via self

[red tiger]

Yeah there's static-like code being implemented as instanced code in the codebase. I haven't seen ISBaseObject's example yet.

[pulsar heath]

whats the right way to get the resolution that the game is running? I only know getPlayerScreenWidth() and that give my screen resolution and not the game

[drifting stump]

no theres no mistake in the implementation

[finite radish]

-- vanilla
function ISBaseObject:new()
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    return o
end

-- cleaner, fixed static function encapsulation
ISBaseObject.new = function()
    local self = {}
    self.__index = self
    return self
end```

[drifting stump]

the self parameter is needed for the inheritance to work

your version is not going to work

[finite radish]

the vanilla way, yes - but not really

[drifting stump]

ill link it again

https://www.lua.org/pil/16.1.html

[finite radish]

that's one way to do it, but it's not the best way (imo)

[ancient grail]

Im also going to make use of spear stab anim for the shove of the riffle with bayonet but im not sure if its possible
Is it?

[drifting stump]

what you wrote literally does not work

it has no inheritance

[finite radish]

because it's the base class, yes

lmao

[drifting stump]

but thats the issue

it has to inherit at any level

[finite radish]

local newClassLmao = {}
newClassLmao.new = function()
    local self = ISBaseObject.new()

    return self
end```

this is what inheritance would look like, if you want to keep proper static encapsulation (using the above change to `ISBaseObject`)

[finite radish]

and it does

[drifting stump]

but youre already doing it wrong having to call the new of the parent

[finite radish]

that's not "doing it wrong" if it maintains encapsulation

(and it does, unlike the vanilla way)

[red tiger]

I'm fine with using :new() for now.

[finite radish]

to explain why that's "the right way": any static members shouldn't be inherited with the class, because static members are inherently (lol) tied to the class. if you're trying to pass those members down, they shouldn't be static in the first place

and that's perfectly fine, if encapsulation isn't a goal of yours (and it doesn't really need to be if you know what you're doing and you aren't expecting other people to use your code, but otherwise it's not clean)

[drifting stump]

the issue with this is that it wont inherit any method at all from the parent

[finite radish]

sure it will, just none that are statically defined

[weak sierra]

can someone explain wtf is going on with __index and setmetatable there anwyay? while i've picked up lua i still have no fuckin idea

[finite radish]

(or private, naturally)

[drifting stump]

not statics nor instance

[drifting stump]

he doesnt understand whats happening either

https://www.lua.org/pil/16.1.html

read here

[finite radish]

yes I do

but go off

[weak sierra]

i gather setmetatable associates a lua-interpreter-internal kind of table for something

but that's about the extent of my understanding lmao

[finite radish]

setmetatable just copies the existing metadata from whatever table you supply, while __index is a meta flag that changes the behavior of the table's accessors

[drifting stump]

right so by what youre saying if i add instance methods to ISBaseObject then it will inherit?

[weak sierra]

huh

[finite radish]

yup! as long as you aren't making them private or static, by OOP terminology

[weak sierra]

such weird stuff, as someone who comes from C# and Python

[drifting stump]

right ill prove you wrong real quick then

[finite radish]

okay!

[finite radish]

yeah metatables and the flags associated with it are weird, but they're fairly straightforward once you understand them. think of them as "table traits" that define the behavior of a table

[drifting stump]

there you go

no inheritance

[finite radish]

because that's a static function, my friend

I don't know what you expected when you wrote it wrong lmfao

[drifting stump]

[finite radish]

[drifting stump]

you still dont understand

[finite radish]

I don't think you understand

if you're trying to emulate OOP, this is how it's done

anything that isn't explicity added to self is static (or if it's local, then it's private)

which is how encapsulation is maintained - only data added directly to the object should be passed via inheritance to any child classes

that's OOP 101

[drifting stump]

massive facepalm having to explicitly declare every function

[vital sedge]

Suppose you have a file with a lot of small functions, those functions are then called in another big function which is then added to OnEvent callback. How can i overwrite just that one small function of someone else mod?

[finite radish]

massive facepalm not understanding encapsulation workflows in a language that wasn't explicitly designed for it

[vital sedge]

there are two options - name the file like ZZZ which will overwrite function or copy the one with big function and all others, but maybe theres cleaner way to overwrite function?

[finite radish]

if those functions are local, you can't

[vital sedge]

they dont have local keyword, ok so i can overwrite them in other file

[finite radish]

yup! just do ModNameOrWhatever.FunctionName = function() <your code> end

[vital sedge]

Im just modding for myself, but i want to prevent steam erasing my shit if the mod update

[blissful canopy]

what is the name of this application

[vital sedge]

if i make my own file it wont replace it when mod update

even if its in same folder

[weak sierra]

is there a way to override locals besides overriding the whole file, some lua dark magic perhaps?

[finite radish]

also you can do Events.<whatever>.Remove(ModNameOrWhatever.FunctionName) if you just want to remove it from the event handler, I believe

[weak sierra]

while im asking people who know more lua than i

[drifting stump]

there is but not in kahlua at least exposed

[weak sierra]

damn

[finite radish]

not as far as I'm aware, that'd be "reflection" in Java and Lua has no counterpart that I'm aware of

[vital sedge]

if namespaces are global[?] couldnt we just overwrite like that "namespace.functionname"?

[drifting stump]

you can get the stack for a given function and overwrite the value at that memory location with debug functions

[finite radish]

yup!

[vital sedge]

even if function is local?

[weak sierra]

that makes sense

[drifting stump]

https://www.lua.org/cgi-bin/demo

[finite radish]

if it's local, then passed into the namespace (MyNamespace.FunctionName = localFunction) then yes, you can still overwrite

because you're overwriting the reference to that function, not the function itself

[weak sierra]

but if something calls localFunction internally

it won't overwrite that

[finite radish]

right, exactly