mod_development

[hollow current]

np

Any idea what function to use to reset a bool after each in-game day? (not each 24 in-game hours)
e.g. I want to allow the player to do x action only once a day

[bronze yoke]

like you want it to reset at midnight or something?

[hollow current]

yea something like that

[bronze yoke]

you can just set it to whichever value lets you do the thing EveryDays

if you wanted it to be at a slightly different time, you could use EveryHours and just check the time

[hollow current]

I will check both functions out. Thanks so much!

[austere finch]

Re: running AwesomeTime + Le Gourmet Revolution concurrently, don't they have sharply conflicting farming frameworks?

[hearty dew]

Events.EveryDays.Add(function()
  MyMod.MyBool = false
end)

[hearty dew]

Yea, I've read that. I have yet to progress that far in the game though. Planning to address the conflicts once I get there, if they aren't too time consuming

[hollow current]

just to double check my knowledge of how Lua operates, this should work as well?

function setBool()
  MyBool = false
end

Events.EveryDays.Add(setBool())```

[hearty dew]

The () you have after setBool will cause the function to be called and the return value of that function call will be passed as an argument. You want to pass the function object to Add(), so don't want to invoke setBool there

otherwise it will work, yes. You probably want to make setBool local, unless you plan on calling it outside of that lua file..```lua
local function setBool()

[hollow current]

Actually that brings me to another question. That bool will be used in another file, a TimedAction. When that timed action is complete, the bool will be set to True

.. How can I exactly have the same bool work across 2 files?

[hearty dew]

By using the same identifier, and not declaring it local, which you haven't done

[austere finch]

FYI one of the subtle problems with Snake's mods and the reason they have such wide-ranging compatibility issues is that they replace instead of supplement a number of core game lua including tooltips.lua for example -- so if you're running Snake's mods without explicitly maneuvering around that you'll eventually discover mods orphaned from the UI because there's nowhere for them to hook in, since broad swaths of vanilla engine are replaced.

[hollow current]

ah so I don't actually have to import it manually into the files, it's just.. there

[shadow geyser]

that last line is equivalent to the following

setBool()
Events.EveryDays.Add(nil)

[hearty dew]

So how I'd set it up is to put your stuff into a global table (to namespace it to avoid name collisions with other mods). Then initialize the boolean. Then in the files you intend to reference the boolean, you can require that file that initializes it

[low sky]

someone should have told me making games in java is so hard

[hollow current]

Alright got it. Gotta do some research about global tables but the concept is pretty clear to me. Thanks so much for the help guys!

[low sky]

collisions are beating my ass rn

[hearty dew]

-- media/shared/ArendamethMod55_initializestuff.lua
ArendamethMod55 = ArendamethMod55 or {}
ArendamethMod55.MyBool = true
function ArendamethMod55.setBool()
  ArendamethMod55.MyBool = false
end

Events.EveryDays.Add(ArendamethMod55.setBool)

-- media/server/ArendamethMod55_importantthings.lua

require("ArendamethMod55_initializestuff")

local function doFancyThings()
  print(ArendamethMod55.MyBool)
end

@hollow current

[low sky]

god lua makes me want to cry

it's a mish mash of weird naming conventions

MyBool

setBool

i bet somewhere in there is a do_thing

[hearty dew]

Yea, I fixed that tooltips.lua issue.. At least the one I saw anyway

[hollow current]

wow thanks so much! Now it makes me feel guilty because I didn't give it the effort to try to put it together myself beforehand 😂

I really appreciate it though

[low sky]

don't feel bad lua is like deciphering moon runes

at least to me

[hollow current]

i kinda agree

I remember the first time I started playing around with java

took me a freaking week to get 3 lines put together that imported data from an online .json file

[low sky]

most things people don't get are the main function

[low sky]

this is kinda hard

but i think i know how i would do it

i have never done it, but i have an idea already on how i would

[hollow current]

honestly python was the easiest I ever worked with

simple, on point, just makes you love your life

[low sky]

yes, because it is made to be that way

it's like saying scratch is easy. yes, because it is on purpose.

although scratch is a very heavy example

[hollow current]

ah well its all a learning curve. You eventually get used to it

2 weeks ago I couldn't put a proper if condition together because I was so used to writing it in the form:

if:
  #do stuff
else:
  #do other stuff```

took me a couple of hours to realise its a different language and not same concepts apply 🤦‍♂️

[hearty dew]

btw, by global table, all I meant was a table that isn't local.

Nearly all variables you declare without the local keyword are global.

this_is_global = {}
local this_isnt = {}

function foo()
  this_is_global_too = 5
end

[hollow current]

and its global across all files of the mod, yea?

[low sky]

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

this_is_global

😭 '

trash ah naming conventions

[bronze yoke]

anything that isn't declared local is global to the entire game's lua

[hearty dew]

all lua in that process, vanilla code, other mods

[hollow current]

nice nice

[hearty dew]

MYNaming_conventions_AreGreat = "okay"

[hollow current]

please

[hearty dew]

||I used underscore to fish for this remark btw, and it worked and I'm happy 😂 ||

[low sky]

the only proper naming convention is camelCase

[hollow current]

those aren't even the worst

I had a project going on once and I went back to it after a month and I had to spend an entire hour deciphering my OWN code

[low sky]

"it worked and i'm happy" it takes nothing to get you happy i see

no dopamine having ass

[hollow current]

lool

[low sky]

https://media.giphy.com/media/sC1j6UV8P0Jo3He2LP/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[astral dune]

u32HungarianNotationIsGOAT

[low sky]

u32HungarianNotation is just weird imo

i like to know what everything is when i am calling it

not just bool1 and var1

i get you can also do it like bBoolName but that is still kinda weird to me

since i use intellij so i can see what kind of variable it is before i call it anyway (thanks intellisense)

[hollow current]

quick question.
ArendamethMod55 = ArendamethMod55 or {}
We initialized ArendamethMod55 as a table using {}, but I don't really get the or statement. Why the ArendamethMod55 = ArendamethMod55?

[bronze yoke]

if you start each file that way, it doesn't matter which order they load in

if the table already exists it'll use that one, otherwise it'll create it

[hearty dew]

It's a lua convention to initialize it only once (e.g. if you reload the lua file while debugging, ArendamethMod55 will already have a non-nil value, so it will use that existing value)

[austere finch]

I would be interested in what you did there, I resorted to commenting theirs out

[hearty dew]

The first time that statement is run, ArendamethMod55 will be nil (which is a falsy value), so the right hand side of the or will be used ({})

[hollow current]

ooo i get it

so its basically like

using ArendamethMod55 IF it exists, otherwise, create the table

[hearty dew]

I did some shenanigans with filenames and require to load snake's util mod's code first before other mods. That way mods that decorate the function will decorate snake's implementation (instead of the vanilla implementation, which snake's will overwrite when it loads)

[hearty dew]

right

[ancient grail]

i wish theres a mod that everyone is working on as a team . id love to colab with people

[hollow current]

alright, and its generally better to have that statement in the beginning of each file that will have/use global mod data?

[hollow current]

I think I came across a couple of mods from the workshop before where before can contribute

but I don't remember at all their names

[ancient grail]

what if its inside a local function?
is it still global?

[ancient grail]

is it to do the wiki page?

[hollow current]

no i meant actual mods

where you could contribute by committing to the GitHub page

[hearty dew]

yea, that or require a file that initializes it

[ancient grail]

ahh i see

or atleast a collection of well organized snippets and functions and what not

[hearty dew]

yes

[bronze yoke]

that's why you're cautioned so much to use local whenever possible

[hollow current]

Would be nice though to start a more thoroughly organised wiki page of PZ's functions/tutorials where everyone here can contribute

it'd be so much better for beginners (like myself)

[ancient grail]

public on github or something
that modders can use as reference

basically disected vanila lua and moders orginal stuff
and libraries and utils and what not

[bronze yoke]

well anyone can start a project like that

be the change you want to see in the world

[hearty dew]

-- media/lua/client/!_miscpatches_bugfixes_SnakeUtilsPack.lua

local PATCHED_MOD_ID = "SnakeUtilsPack"

if not miscpatches_utils.initializePatch(PATCHED_MOD_ID, function()
            -- Load SnakeUtilsPack's ISToolTipInv:render modifications first because it tramples over other mods
            require("tooltip")
            return ISToolTipInv.MakeFishState
        end)
then
    return
end

The filename starts with ! so that it loads before other mods. The miscpatches_utils function basically just calls that getActivatedMods():contains() api in that instance and the function return verifies the snake utils mod loaded successfully

[ancient grail]

im too noobish to execute haha

[hollow current]

Well I guess imma do it

ReadTheDocs is a good host for documentations and stuff

I could try getting one up and running, as long as everyone's interested

[dim hill]

What's the mod that lets you use empty cans as water containers/boilers?

[bronze yoke]

i'm not sure i care much about documenting the lua and java, but documentation on the scripts would be nice

[hollow current]

+1

I want it to be more PZ oriented

and less Java/Lua Oriented

[ancient grail]

ill contribute what i know

[bronze yoke]

i meant the pz code

[hollow current]

ye exactly

[bronze yoke]

i think the vanilla code is fairly easy to read and search with a bit of general knowledge of the game's workings, but the scripts are a total mystery to me

[low sky]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dog-in-car-selfie-rapper-calvin-cordozar-broadus-jr-gif-17908339

[low sky]

very true

[ancient grail]

be like the go to source for mod related stuff since we will also link it to other github pages that are public. wiki guides etc

[bronze yoke]

particularly vehicle scripts which don't seem to be finished

[low sky]

if you know java it is ez

pz is cool because they are not doing any crazy ah code

[ancient grail]

damn how many languages do u guys speak

[low sky]

the code for their game is pretty tight

[dim hill]

Was there a mod that let you put and boil water in empty tin cans?

[bronze yoke]

it could be a good way to encourage people to use apis/frameworks/whatever they want to call themselves

[low sky]

OR

hear me out

[bronze yoke]

i think so, but i don't know what it was called; try asking in #mod_support

[low sky]

they coudl just be super epic

and make us able to add java mods natively

[calm acorn]

So i can experience the joy of gradle all over again...

[austere finch]

Did you happen to publish this on the workshop, or just use misc. patches locally? I play with a half dozen friends on a dedicated server but this is much more elegant than quashing the lua unilaterally and appears to still pass through the fishing components.

[low sky]

this game i am making is turning out to be a lot more work then i signed up for

anyone know how to convert the speed of the mouse into a hVelocity?

on the x plane

[astral dune]

ya its pretty clear the vehicles are more WIP than other things in game. Stuff in the vehicle scripts like gear ratios aren't even used and other things are called from the script every time so you can't even modify them at runtime

[bronze yoke]

i was messing around with the install table for vehicle parts for a bit until i found out:
a) drainables aren't supported yet
b) the keep=true/false keyword doesn't do anything
c) the ui doesn't actually show if you need multiple of an item (unsure if it still works, just noticed this was hardcoded in the ui)

but to be fair, vehicles aren't supposed to be finished, like not just from the limited flexibility of the scripts, they don't have their animations and stuff yet

[astral dune]

Ya, my "parts" code doesn't actually use parts for some of those reasons

everything is just strings and doubles in the ModData until you go to pull it out

[bronze yoke]

huh

[hearty dew]

I can later if you want. It is just a random collection of little tweaks and mod compatibility fixes

[livid geode]

I've got a quick question.. how does the mod loading order work?
If I put my mod as last in the list will it overwrite the one behind it or is it the other way around?

[astral dune]

I'm under the impression its actually just alphabetical at the file level, but maybe somebody else has a better idea

[livid geode]

I can change in pzserver.ini and adapt the list and make the order myself.. I just don't know which one overwrites the other..

[bronze yoke]

later mods will overwrite earlier mods

[livid geode]

Thanks 😄

[bronze yoke]

(i think...)

[astral dune]

if the files have the same name and location, ya maybe

[bronze yoke]

i'm going to load up a bunch of mods to check

[hearty dew]

@livid geode

[bronze yoke]

this doesn't answer their question though

[hearty dew]

I think later mods in the load order win if multiple mods have files with the same path? I'm not sure about that

[bronze yoke]

oh my bad, you were still typing

[hearty dew]

Ah, nm. I'm talking about the order lua files are loaded

[austere finch]

I'd appreciate that, I'm sure a lot of folks could use the assist with Snake compatibility too! FWIW I have posted a more thorough english translation mod for Snake's

[livid geode]

Well I'm getting a weird thing where the texture for ALICEpack_Camo_Pink cannot be overwitted by the next mod in the order.. whereas others are.
Speaking about LoliAlicePacks mod texture change

[hearty dew]

There is a mod that allows you to control the mod load order via the UI btw. Mod Manager

[hearty dew]

Oh, I'd be interested in that

[austere finch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2866697618 There was a surprising amount that was still Spanish in the EN translation, I also spent a lot of time trying to go through to thoroughly tweak and clean up the existing EN translation for consistency on capitalization, phrasing, tooltips etc. to match PZ.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2868734860 Better Sorting for Le Gourmet Revolution

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2869324238 Better Sorting for a -lot- of other things.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2810180951 AFAIK this is the only mod so far to try to tackle farming crop compatibility for Le Gourmet Revolution, though the approach here is just a recipe option to convert one itemID of seeds into the same seeds provided in LGR. I would like a more elegant solution to ideally bring some of the other modded crops that LGR doesn't have into coherency with the same framework though, e.g. Rugged Recipes has Cucumbers and LGR doesn't.

[hearty dew]

Thanks

Yea, next thing I was going to do it make the hunting feature in snake's mod compatible with britas/arsenal firearms

But still haven't really progressed far enough to be able to need it (died in the last save I had that found the hunting gear), so might be a long while before I get around to that

[hollow current]

sooo umm

~~https://projectzomboid.readthedocs.io/en/latest/~~
For anyone happy with the idea and willing to contribute!
not an efficient way of doing things, never mind

Should be relatively easy to anyone familiar with Github

[austere finch]

There's a mod that has tackled this as well, fortunately; crossbows get a little trickier in general because none of the Brita crossbows want to play nice with other mods for bolts as ammo etc.

[hollow current]

shouldn't Events.EveryDays.Add(ArendamethMod55) be Events.EveryDays.Add(ArendamethMod55.setBool)? To specify the specific function, assuming we have multiple funcs?

[ancient grail]

they say mod load order is important so if its alphabetical then it wouldnt make sense that we need to arange them acording to individual mods nature

[austere finch]

If I can get Fx Clothing Tweaks to not use another renamed ItemTweaker that'd save 20 seconds; ideally it'd just use the default ItemTweaker API anyways, but it could also probably use an update for a bit of additional coverage generally.

[hearty dew]

yea, I missed that when typing it up

[hollow current]

ah it's okay, thanks!

[hearty dew]

for britas? I found one for firearms b41, but not britas

[austere finch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2863883433

[astral dune]

There is a reason people put !!! or zzz at the beginning of their file names. Mod load order may matter for which file gets loaded first if they have the same location, but there is more to it

[ancient grail]

if u use ArendamethMod55.setBool

u will need
ArendamethMod55 ={}

correct? i e started learning tables and still not sure about how things work

[hollow current]

I believe so, as setBool will be stored in the table if I am not mistaken

this is literally my first day with tables too lol

[hearty dew]

That's probably doable, since you can overwrite that mod's file containing the copy

[astral dune]

ArendamethMod55 = ArendamethMod55 or {}, or better yet require ArendamethMod55

[hollow current]

by the way, ArendamethMod55.MyBool = true
Assuming the player is in, say, SP. Wouldn't loading into the world intialize the mod, and thus setting it true immediately, even though its intended, for example, to be set to true only when the setBool is called on the EveryDays event?

[hearty dew]

The lua files are loaded before entering the world. You can use the OnGameBoot (think I spelled that right) event to know when it starts

[hollow current]

but that still poses the same issue, relogging into the game will reset the bool?

[austere finch]

The real trick is trying to scratch the surface of phasing out Better Sorting's item tweaker copy cc since so many things explicitly reference it, whereas the Fx clothes tweak + Eliaz better bags 1.Item Tweaker lua forks are just identical to the regular API and don't add / change anything (apart from 20 seconds of extra game boot time, grrr)

[hearty dew]

So it would be initialized to true prior to entering the world. I understood you said you'd be using the boolean potentially before setBool is ever called, so figured you want to initialize it in some way

[hearty dew]

correct

[hollow current]

what i basically mean is
Player is intended to do x action only once every in-game day. Once he does that action, the bool will be set to false, so he can't do that action again, until the bool is set to true using the setBool function after one day has passed. Now, assuming that player does that action, then relogs, technically he can do it again, no?

[astral dune]

why not keep a timestamp in their moddata instead?

[hearty dew]

Sounds like you probably want to initialize it to what's in moddata if moddata is available. If not available initialize it to true.. if I understand your requirements correctly

[agile lily]

Aye fellas! I've got a question regarding modding. Is there any way to extract the 3d models from PZ? I'd like to get a player model so modeling becomes less of a pita when deciding on scale and such. If my memory servers me right I think I've seen these resources online as well, but now I can't find them for the life of me :o

[hollow current]

Check pinned messages in #modeling, there are a few models there, player character included

[hearty dew]

Yea, could do that too, and just check if enough time has elapsed since last usage

[hollow current]

I think the bools for moddata will be easier for me since I definitely have no idea how to compare times in lua lol

[astral dune]

assuming there is a way to get date and time, either RL or in game

[hollow current]

plus it'll be tricky since its intended to reset at midnight of each in-game day, and not technically after every 24 in game hours of doing the action

[hearty dew]

irl time is available in the os table. There's some function for in game time too, but I can't recall it atm

[agile lily]

Thank you! :)

[hollow current]

My pleasure!

[astral dune]

if the game time is retrievable, and I assume it is because things like whether the power is still on rely on it, then you could just compare which day it was done last to what day it is now

this would break if the admin rolled the day back, but I'm not sure that's even possible

and you can tell if you went back in time more than a day anyway

[hearty dew]

Just to overwhelm you with more options (😂), in your EveryDays event handler, you could set a boolean in the player's moddata to true. Then in the function that checks whether the action can be performed, if the boolean is not in the moddata or if it exists there and is true, it can be performed. After performing the action, set it to false. That should work too

[hollow current]

I guess I could try implementing either ways and whatever works, just works

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

okay gimme a min to process that
Might need more than a min

[astral dune]

is this happening server side or client side?

[hollow current]

Well mod is intended to work both for SP and MP soo I guess best is to make it compatible for both

[astral dune]

sure, but thats not really related per se

[hollow current]

oo i see what you mean

It's client side

[astral dune]

anything you handle clientside only is going to get lost on relog, right? So you have to consider that

[hollow current]

.. except moddata, no?

anything defined in moddata stays there, even after you relog, right?

[astral dune]

still has to be transmitted to the server to be stored, I'm not sure if that's handled automatically or not

hmm I may be lying, it may get stored locally, which is a great way to enable cheating but w/e

[hearty dew]

My understanding is most moddata is automatically persisted. The exception is global moddata (moddata not associated to any object), which you have to call a function to explicitly transmit to server / to client

[astral dune]

all the moddata on vehicles has to be transmitted manually

and the transmit functions don't all work, lol

but players are likely different

[hollow current]

ye its just "one piece of moddata" to be stored on the playerObj

[astral dune]

I would still advocate for a timestamp, a boolean has no context and if they aren't logged in when the day rolls over it won't get reset properly, a timestamp just requires a simple comparison

I wish I had the API on hand to tell for sure if you can get a useful timestamp

[hollow current]

lemme see if I can find anything useful on the PZ's official API or vanilla files

[bronze yoke]

getGameTime()

there's a getGametimeTimestamp() but i'm not sure exactly what format that would return and that would actually make things harder for this specific usecase

[hollow current]

There's also apparently a getTimestamp()

lemme try to print both and see what I get

[bronze yoke]

you can set the player's mod data to getGameTime():getDay() after they do the action, and then only allow them to do this action if the current getDay() is greater than their mod data

that would work through relogs and in multiplayer

[hearty dew]

getTimestamp() is irl time in seconds since epoch if I recall correctly

getTimestampMs() is same but in milliseconds

[low sky]

i love java

System.currentTimeMillis

[hollow current]

lemme see if that works

[low sky]

DateTimeFormatter formatter = DateTimeFormatter.ofPattern("yyyy/MM/dd HH:mm:ss");  
   LocalDateTime now = LocalDateTime.now();  
   System.out.println(formatter.format(now));  ```

🫘

☕ supremacy

[bronze yoke]

oh and you'd probably want to set it to -1 when they create their character, Events.OnCreatePlayer (check that they don't already have one as this event runs when loading a save too)

[hearty dew]

os.time()

gives time since epoch I believe. I just wasn't sure of the function name

[low sky]

same as System.currentTimeMillis

gives time since like 1970 or something

i forgot

yeah Jan 1, 1970

[hearty dew]

Might be simplier imo to infer moddata not existing implies the action was never taken so it should be available to perform

[astral dune]

getGameTime():getDay() is the ticket, for this use case the time IRL doesn't matter

[hearty dew]

But I'm lazy like that 🙂

[bronze yoke]

that's probably the better way of doing it

[astral dune]

i agree 🤝

[hollow current]

Yup definitely works

thanks so much

[low sky]

puffin on zooties and she calling me daddy

[astral dune]

One thing I don't get about vehicles is it appears that the engine overheats faster if there is no hood

[hollow current]

there is engine overheating system in PZ?

[astral dune]

overheat is probably the wrong term, but yes there is engine heat, I think its related to how well your heater works, I haven't looked too deeply yet

[magic nymph]

Has anyone been able to find where the implementation of ILuaGameCharacter is?

[magic nymph]

If someone knows where it's at, please ping me. Thanks.

[bronze yoke]

i've seen some stuff to do with engine heat, but does it actually do anything?

i've seen how it's generated and stuff but not what it actually does

[astral dune]

I think the heat your heater puts out is related to your engine heat, but like I said I haven't really looked yet

[neon bronze]

Anyone knows how the vision cone of the character is created/calculated? If im not wrong it has something to do with the IsoObjects$VisionResult but i cant get more out of it

[summer rune]

can i put my item definitions under media/scripts in an arbitrary subfolder like media/scripts/mysubfolder. And basically the same question for media/textures/mysubfolder and media/textures/WorldItems/mysubfolder ... ?

[midnight mica]

does anyone know if theres a way to get a unique value from a character (id)? if one player for example creates multiple characters by dieing, i'd like to get a unique value for each character that is also unique on the server.

[astral dune]

hmmm.. I would think a player's sqlID might be useful for that, but doesn't look its accessible

[thick karma]

I don't know about anything built into the game but you could use a save file and this https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/OnCreateSurvivor

[midnight mica]

thanks, i'll have a look

[shadow geyser]

its Iluagamecharacter.java

not much to say other than its in the java decompile

[dark finch]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

Any modders take commissions??

[bronze yoke]

i've been considering it

[dark finch]

Ive been looking for a modder for months

[magic nymph]

If we're looking at the same thing, that's the interface.

I'm looking for the class that implements it.

[bronze yoke]

isoplayer, isogamecharacter, isozombie, etc

IsoDummyCameraCharacter, IsoGameCharacter, IsoLivingCharacter, IsoLuaCharacter, IsoLuaMover, IsoPlayer, IsoSurvivor, IsoZombie, RandomizedBuildingBase.HumanCorpse```

[gilded hawk]

Add me on discord maybe I got some free time

[drifting ore]

Is there a mod that makes Project Zomboid look as much like the original The Sims as possible?

[dark finch]

my man

[bronze yoke]

i'd like to hear what you're looking for myself

[neon bronze]

So does zomboid use a different java compiler than the usual ones?

[low sky]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-discord-who-cares-handsome-squidward-squidward-gif-25418980

[astral dune]

don't think so, I compiled some stuff with java 17 and its playing nice so far

[low sky]

you using storm api?

[astral dune]

nope

[low sky]

are you making mods in java?

[astral dune]

no, I just patched some stuff thats currently broken

[low sky]

ah

i thought you were making some mods

[astral dune]

still doing that lua style for now

[bronze yoke]

gerald absolutely ravenous for any mention of java modding

[low sky]

yes

[abstract raptor]

Anyone have a problem where player built things dissappear when you leave a chunk and come back?

[astral dune]

from a mod you're making?

[abstract raptor]

Well, in my new graffiti mod placing the graffiti works fine, but when I left the chunk and came back all the graffiti was "gone", as in still there but invisibile. The option to remove it even though you couldn't see it was there. I have no idea why it wouldn't just persist

I wasn't sure if this was a problem with the mod or a problem with the server I was using

[thick karma]

FYI, that info and info like it is easily available at https://projectzomboid.com/modding/ or in your specific case https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/characters/ILuaGameCharacter.html. See section at the top called All Known Implementing Classes

Extremely useful tool

[astral dune]

is the option to remove it still there if you log out and back in?

[abstract raptor]

was just about to check that

ye

[astral dune]

I assume that option doesn't show up if there is no graffiti?

[abstract raptor]

it persists but it has become invisible on a server. Apparently my friend just tested and it persists and doesn't become invisible in single player.

Yeah that option only shows up if there's graffiti on a tile

I dunno how to confirm if it's a MP issue with the mod or if it's just my server though X_X

[astral dune]

running a different server locally would probably be your best bet

I can't imagine you have to do anything special to transmit the tiles from the server, but I suppose you could look at another mod that adds tiles to be sure

[thick karma]

@hearty dew Did some testing, and getTimeSinceZombieAttack is independent of game speed... in fact I'm 99% certain it updates OnTick

[elfin stump]

Anyone have a guide for overriding vanilla items? I thought I understood how to do it but all the items I try to add that should override don't show up at all.

[glad ridge]

i've seen people just use ```
module Base {
item PUTITEMYOUAREREPLACINGHERE {
UPDATED INFO GOES HERE
}
}

but I'm assuming this would also work and is probably better to do, just test out both ways

module whateverthe.txtfileiscalled {
imports {
Base
}
item PUTITEMYOUAREREPLACINGHERE {
  UPDATED INFO GOES HERE    
  }
}

[glad ridge]

^

[low sky]

omfg i just had a cool idea for a mod

if i can't make it

[elfin stump]

Thanks - there must be some other issue here. The top one is the method I have been using but doesn't seem to override. The second one creates the item as an additional item when I try that. Not sure what is causing it tho.

[low sky]

someone else totally should

[ruby urchin]

IIRC the game adds it (imports)

[elfin stump]

Okay I just did some testing on this. It seems to work with regular items, doesn't seem to work with Weapons. I will do some more testing and try and figure out why - the example I was looking at was a weapon so there must be something else breaking it that I don't understand.

[glad ridge]

I just did it with crowbar using my first example and it seemed to change the base item and attributes, but if any of the names and values they = inside of the items { } are wrong you will get some weird errors or it will just straight up fail, gl

[elfin stump]

Cool. That sounds right. I am honing in on it... I think I may see the problem so I have a couple things I will try. Thank you for your help!

[spark crystal]

@abstract raptor Hey Aza, I think your issue with the new Graffiti mod, might also be the same issue that seems to be occurring in the Repair Wall Cracks mod - assuming that both yours and theirs are replacing/adding map tiles or overlays, maybe to certain layers? I haven't looked in to the inners of how either work, but I can understand it's likely to be similar.

With the Wall Cracks mod, can repair them, but you leave the area/come back after a while and suddenly they're all back again - thought it might just be the erosion progressing - but it's not.

Although on that note, could be something to investigation - when the erosion kicks over, if that might be clearing or overriding whichever layer you're using?

[calm acorn]

So apparently you can force sandbox vars to load before OnDistributionMerge and OnPostDistributionMerge

local EarlyBootSandbox = function(newGame)
    if not SandboxVars and not isClient() then
        print("Attempting to load sandbox options earlier than normal")
            getSandboxOptions().load()
    end
end
--Events.OnPreDistributionMerge.Add(EarlyBootSandbox)
--Events.OnPostDistributionMerge.Add(DoStuffWithSandboxVars)

alternatively the safer way appears to be

local EarlyBootSandbox = function(newGame)
--  ~stuff~

    ItemPickerJava.Parse()
end
Events.OnInitGlobalModData.Add(OnInitGlobalModData)

[true vault]

Any info to add multiple requirements to a recipe? Trying to require an elec level, as well as a custom skill tree level.

[boreal crow]

Multiple deleted, or mulitple kept

Ohh

[true vault]

Sorry, I should have been more specific... multiple skill level requirements

[calm acorn]

SkillRequired:MetalWelding=5;Electricity=5,

[true vault]

Okay, that's what I thought it was, but it has... issues.. lolz.. I'll keep workin at that, thanks

[calm acorn]

what are the issues you are experiencing?

[boreal crow]

He's trying to use a custom skill tree, does that not require more indepth

[true vault]

She* actually; and pretty much that yes.

(ZGal... Zed Girl...) lol

[elfin stump]

Awesome. I will test this. I would love to get those sandbox settings working for distribution.

[calm acorn]

eh the second one seems safer

the first one reloads the files from disk

then gets called a second time

the second one does this which you can infer what it does from most of the names

[elfin stump]

I will give that one a shot first. That is going to be really helpful.

[calm acorn]

you actually would just need ParseSuburbsDistributions() and ParseProceduralDistributions() but those methods are private

lol same i have been beating my head for my next update to carwanna

im so close

[abstract raptor]

Thanks for this -- I know the graffiti is actually overlays and not like a proper constructed tile

[true vault]

That did it, thanks for confirming.. the issue was entirely on me; I used the wrong perk name. ZedCraftChemistry versus ZedSmithChemistry

- facepalms -

[calm acorn]

oh man

[elfin stump]

Yeah that one loot table / sandbox setting issue is the only thing in my mod that I couldn't figure out without a bunch of extra crap I don't like haha

[calm acorn]

capitalizations and misspellings are my #1 enemy

[true vault]

Same tho lolz... I cannot even count the number of times a bug/error was caused by those two things...

[calm acorn]

i already did the trial by fire of cAsInG and sorting based on filename sorting order burning me for a week

lol

[cedar anvil]

Does anyone know where I could find 'WorldObjectSprite'? I'm trying to make a Moveable item but have no idea where I could find Sprite images or files.

[elfin stump]

I have not done moveable items but I have done sprites, I think start here: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/New_Tiles and here: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/44033-latest-tilezed-and-worlded-december-21-2021/ - there may be newer tilezed, but I think that is where I got mine.

Sprites are in .pack files so you cannot get to them without looking into those files

[cedar anvil]

Oh my god Thank you so much

I found some tutorials but it was outdated. Will look into it. Thanks!

[elfin stump]

No problem! Good luck!

[elfin stump]

I may have figured it out haha... looks like it caused other issues though.

[hearty dew]

@sleek saffron ```lua
local function OnZombieUpdate(zombie)
local zombieModData = zombie:getModData();

--if not zombieModData.TrippingZInit then 
    local zombieData = getZombieData(zombie);
    zombieModData.TrippingZInit = true;
    zombieModData.TrippingZombiesSpeed = zombieData.speed;
    zombieModData.TrippingZombieCrawler = zombieData.crawler;
    zombieModData.TrippingZombiesFakeDead = zombieData.fakeDead;
--end

I need to do something similar, and was curious what you learned that led you to recalculate the zombie data on every `OnZombieUpdate` rather than rely on the data already cached in the zombie's moddata?

[weak sierra]

hell yes

@elfin stump did u see this?

[calm acorn]

ugh big pain in the butt to not do it otherwise

[elfin stump]

Ohh yeah I saw it! 😄 I am excited about it

[hearty dew]

Why the need for the not isClient() check?

[calm acorn]

that is just replicating what is in the java

[hearty dew]

Ah

[calm acorn]

honestly though i think hitting the itempicker with parse is the lesser of two evils, that only seems to rebuild a the distribution tables in java from what i can tell

[hearty dew]

@calm acorn Hmm, would that cause any modifications to loot tables by later loaded mods to not have any effect?

[calm acorn]

i noticed when i was loading my loot with OnInitGlobalModData that it was in the loot table for lootzed but it would never drop

[hearty dew]

the Parse() call. Or will it reparse again later and re-read the tables?

[calm acorn]

no its only called once in isoworld.java on line 1661

the issue is you cant read sandbox options until they are loaded and i really dont want to use lua config mods for my endusers

[hearty dew]

That makes sense if the tables were modified (during OnInitGlobalModData) after the tables were Parsed

[calm acorn]

its like man... would be really cool if cough sandbox variables loaded sooner

[hearty dew]

Mm, I hit something similar with the sandbox vars not being available early enough for some mod patches, so I just went with Mod Options, even though it is quite awkward

[hearty dew]

yea

[calm acorn]

yeah im currently in the process of pulling it out

[elfin stump]

Me too, I ended up using dynamic loot and hardcoded sandbox settings in submods that disable my dynamic loot if you use them. - How did you use Mod Options to do it?

[elfin stump]

Is your fix still hitting snags?

[calm acorn]

no

[elfin stump]

Awesome I have not used it yet

[calm acorn]

the issue im having now my procedural loot lists are acting up

what is dumb is i can sit there and just bam bam bam hit refill container and all of sudden the game will be like boom https://puu.sh/JoNJt/721d11f7bc.png

proc list has a min 0 and max of 1 lol

[elfin stump]

They don't spawn on their own though?

[calm acorn]

nah they do they have a really low chance

[hearty dew]

I didn't need it specifically for loot tables. I needed config options very early in the lua load sequence (at the beginning of when shared lua files are loaded, which are loaded before client (and before server)) files. Did this:```lua

-- Not necessary atm since this file is alphabetically after !ModOptionsEngine.lua
--require("!ModOptionsEngine")
if ModOptions and ModOptions.getInstance then
ModOptions:getInstance(miscpatches_utils.MOD_OPTIONS, miscpatches_utils.MOD_ID, miscpatches_utils.MOD_ID)
end

miscpatches_utils.initializePatch = function(patchedModId, verifyIsLoaded)
if not miscpatches_utils.ModOptionsLoaded then
miscpatches_utils.ModOptionsLoaded = true
if ModOptions and ModOptions.getInstance then
ModOptions:loadFile()
end
end
-- etc ...

[elfin stump]

Awesome thank you.

[weak sierra]

that's in java tho im not sure u can call that..? or is it exposed

[hearty dew]

But it's not a great user experience

[hearty dew]

The user has to config mod options before starting the world. That's an extra pain if it's on a dedicated server, bc there is no UI

[weak sierra]

honestly id be surprised if that's exposed, but im guessing u know well enuff to have checked or tested it

[calm acorn]

no that method is public and you can grab the instance via getSandboxOptions() int he luamanager

[weak sierra]

huh

[calm acorn]

same with parse and the item picker

[weak sierra]

yeah i was talkin about ItemPicker.Parse

didnt kno

til

[elfin stump]

I see, thanks for the info it is helpful.

[weak sierra]

a generic mod that just loads that will fix a bunch of mods that uh.. don't work with sandbox options atm

[calm acorn]

you can see all the classes that are exposed in the luamanager

[weak sierra]

yeah

i just didnt look

[calm acorn]

usually those have a method to grab a instance of them

some times they have a static ref on them that you can just grab them directly

oh man honestly the only reason im able to do half of what i can figure out is cause i keep the java open

[hearty dew]

And you can print out the metatable to see what methods are exposed as functions in lua @weak sierra

once you have an instance of the java object in a lua object

The lua object pretty printer I pasted here a few times will print them out

[weak sierra]

i have it open too, have done things

and reflected to do things that i shouldn't do when i can't do things

and keeping the option to java mod the server open when i still can't do things

:|

(at least for my own server, can't really redist that)

[calm acorn]

oh man i saw some of that naughty java on that respawn mod, gave me some ideas i didnt know i could get into trouble with

[hearty dew]

A static method? How do you call those? Through the __classmetatables table?

Hadn't thought about how to call static methods/fields. Hmm

That'd be handy to get fields like GameServer.instance, etc

[astral dune]

Scriptmanager.instance works for some strange reason, even though there is a getScriptManager

[hearty dew]

Oh, don't even need to mess with that. It's right there in _G, heh

[bronze yoke]

i think class.instance usually works (when applicable)

[hearty dew]

yea, exactly. Nice

[bronze yoke]

i think the getters look pretty so i use those

[hearty dew]

That's a lot easier than the hoops I was jumping through before

They are also arranged in java namespace e.g. zombie.characters.IsoPlayer, zombie.inventory.ItemPickerJava, etc

[astral dune]

if they can expose .instance fields I wish they would just expose all the public fields

[hearty dew]

The public fields should be exposed, if their class is exposed in the Exposer

[astral dune]

no fields are exposed, only methods

except for rare instances, no pun intended

we went through this the other day, even with reflection shenanigans you can only write to public fields in debug mode, outside that its read only and kinda nasty

[hearty dew]

Yea, they should be exposed and readable. That's what I mean (not writable)

[astral dune]

You can do ScriptManager.instance:getBlaBla(), which is what I would consider the minimum level to be considered exposed, tbh. Having to use the reflection library to access a variable doesn't count imo

thas cheetin'

[hearty dew]

Oh, I see where you're coming from 😂

So public static fields are exposed that way (readable, not writable). public instance fields are not however (only methods, as you say) 🤔

[astral dune]

I assume it a limitation of kahlua, but lord knows

[hearty dew]

weird asymmetry

[calm acorn]

i think thats cause its exposed in the luamanager and instance is a public static in ScriptManager

[calm acorn]

you could boot the server in debug mod but your console would get really chatty

[astral dune]

Try explaining that to someone downloading your mod on the workshop, lol

[calm acorn]

:p hey those java mods get traction, some one might be willing if it really does something they want

lol

[weak sierra]

im gonna make a version that uses a javamodded server to get better access to the vehicles.db

[astral dune]

Its a bit of a catch 22, nobody uses the java api because it has no support, it has no support because nobody uses it. I don't think java mods can be distributed through the workshop, but I don't know why, surely someone could flange it up to work right

[weak sierra]

and do more fancy stuff

[weak sierra]

they can't be distributed because u have to actually inject them into the game files which is outside the workshop folders

technically u can distribute the files, someone would have to write a loader that would collect and relocate them and do waht is needed

[astral dune]

well if the Minecraft Forge team can make an api that lets you dump mods in a folder, surely the PZ community can too

[weak sierra]

tho if ur using a java hook like stormapi

then u can just put it in a workshop mod yes

but since there's no java hook in PZ

u have to install that hook first by hand

which is a huge barrier to entry for most users

if TIS would give us a java hook we could basically do anything we want

would be more like modding rimworld

[astral dune]

Thats a lot of hooks, the would sit side-by-side with the kahlua hooks... it would probably be ok, but no reason to maintain both. They'd likely want to drop kahlua, which would tick some people off... I dunno its a mess

kahlua as far as I can tell is also a dead, unsupported project, something's gotta give

[weak sierra]

there's kahlua2

not sure which they use

i assume 2

[astral dune]

oh rly

[weak sierra]

dont think it's dead

they use the lua side for their own stuff

[hearty dew]

Pretty sure it is 2. Some of the changes in 2 I noticed in what pz runs

[weak sierra]

so i dont see them dropping it

[astral dune]

last commit is 11 years ago

[weak sierra]

doesn't mean it's a problem

lua is a simple language

it's not like some huge new feature gonna drop tomorrow and break everything

nor is it like we couldnt sit on 5.1 or whatever

[hearty dew]

It's a problem bc kahlua isn't even to lua 5.2 spec 😂

[weak sierra]

lol

[astral dune]

kahlua doesn't support the full lua spec

ya

[weak sierra]

i never knew lua before this so that hasnt bothered me lol

[calm acorn]

same boat, blessing/curse i guess lol,

welp nope turns out my loot tables are working im just tired and never realized when you have a range of min=0, max=1 that you get 0 loot some times even when your table is set to 100% lol

went in and set it to 1/1 and bam works.... turned that back off

[astral dune]

I may look closer at Storm. If they were smart enough to make it work somewhat with workshop it may be worth it. They say they have some 150+ events you can listen to, if even one is onVehiclePartDamaged ...

[weak sierra]

you can javamod the server by hand on a particular server and then expose whatever u want in lua or make whatever events u want

and use non-javamodded clients

just can't easily javamod the clients

w/o technical users willing to do a thing

[astral dune]

thats true, if as long as whatever hooks you put in are server-side only, you could possibly make it compatible with vanilla clients in a dedicated server setup

couldn't legally distribute your server changes though

[hearty dew]

Can do that and rely on server/client commands to do quite a bit, perhaps. Things like mechanics of vehicles being the exception since those are executed largely in client-side java code

[astral dune]

ya, most of the physics stuff is client side, which makes sense

[weak sierra]

used to not be

and yeah, several servers do do that

[astral dune]

My main point of frustration is that I can listen for the incremental "wear and tear" damage on a vehicle, and I can listen for when one crashes into an inanimate object, but the only way to track damage from hitting zombies is to attach to OnTick and check all the parts on the vehicle every tick. Its gross, and I'm fairly certain why I get like 10fps in some modded cars. But it may just be the rendering engine for all I know

[hearty dew]

Since you're already modifying the java, you could add triggerEvent(onVehiclePartDamaged) to the java side while you're at it

[astral dune]

haha I could... I haven't decided how far I want to distribute my mod yet, but if its "further than my circle of friends" I have to keep the jar hacking to a minimum. Currently all I change is how Engine Power is handled, in anticipation of them fixing it in build 42

[hearty dew]

Hopefully they would fix it. Maybe could send a patch their way to increase the chances

[astral dune]

they are aware of the issue and may fix it for 42 according to their forum. The fix is literally commenting out a single line so I'm sure they can handle it, lol. If we're lucky they'll also take out the magic number gear ratios and actually use the ones in the script

[calm acorn]

VehicleHit might be exposed to AddXP

[astral dune]

I'm not clear on how this would be useful

[calm acorn]

looks like it the description of the xp source should have Vehicle in it

[astral dune]

is this called lua-side?

[bronze yoke]

i can't say i've tried, but i didn't think we could access that stuff

[astral dune]

I assume the lua function that would get called to add xp is IsoGameCharacter_XP:AddXP() but I don't see any instance of it being called by the lua for anything besides the admin console or doing things that increase your perks.... actually, XP is only for perks right? What XP would you get for running over a zombie?

longblunt I suppose

[calm acorn]

Events.AddXP.Add(owner, type, amount)

maybe type == Perks.Driving fires off when you hit something

[astral dune]

driving is a modded perk, isn't it

[calm acorn]

oh damn yeah i think your right, eh thats just a sign i need to go to bed, have a good one mate.

[astral dune]

have a good night, thanks for the idea though. I'll root around a bit

[weak sierra]

anyone familiar with how the chat system works

i made custom commands but when u hit enter they sit in the chat box

[calm acorn]

also maybe just checking for blood intensity cause i think those get set when you hit things

[weak sierra]

need to know how to clear the chat box

or maybe defocusing clears it..

probably something on textEntry anyway..

why am i even asking i know waht im doing im just too tired to think

[astral dune]

I thought about listening for when the vehicle texture gets damaged, but that only happens past a certain threshold. I assume blood is the same, but maybe not...

[bronze yoke]

i don't think there's anything useful you could hook into for that either way

[astral dune]

my only hope atm is looking for some single variable that changes when damage happens, so I can check one thing per tick instead of every part

either that or what I'm currently doing, which is hooking into part updates and just partially reverting/redistributing batches of damage

[bronze yoke]

yeah that's how mine works

it's not perfect but it's definitely the best way of doing things i can find

[astral dune]

have you figured out a nice way to handle windows breaking? I was thinking of just storing what window was in the spot and putting it back if it disappears

[bronze yoke]

no i haven't really thought about that yet, but that's probably what i'll do

that or freeze the part's condition at 100 so it just doesn't happen, which may be a better way of doing it

[astral dune]

by just topping it up every update?

[bronze yoke]

well it'd be exactly the same code as the protection already uses

even if you replace the window it'll still make the smashing sound

also worth looking into is why windows are deleted when other items aren't, might be able to just turn that off

[astral dune]

now that you mention it, in the part damage code there is special mention of windows..

of course right now I can't seem to find ANY of the relevant code, may be bedtime for me too

[bronze yoke]

god i need to get up in three hours lol

[astral dune]

here it is

function Commands.damageWindow(player, args)
    local vehicle = getVehicleById(args.vehicle)
    if vehicle then
        local part = vehicle:getPartById(args.part)
        if not part then
            noise('no such part '..tostring(args.part))
            return
        end
        if not part:getWindow() then
            noise('part ' .. args.part .. ' has no window')
            return
        end
        part:getWindow():damage(tonumber(args.amount))
    else
        noise('no such vehicle id='..tostring(args.vehicle))
    end
end

this command is unfortunately hidden in a local table, BUT part:getWindow():damage() should be injectable

[bronze yoke]

oh well that makes things easy

if we can verify nothing else damages windows that's most of the updates gone

[astral dune]

hmm, this command may only fire when you break a window with the vehicle context menu

ya, BaseVehicle.addDamageFrontHitAChr(), which is what is called when you hit a player or zombie, doesn't issue any commands or trigger any events

[bronze yoke]

that sucks

[astral dune]

worth mentioning though is that Brakes and shocks never take damage from a zombie impact, so thats a small handful of checks that can be avoided

[bronze yoke]

i wasn't actually planning on protecting those

[astral dune]

Tires, headlights and taillights, engine, hood, trunk, gastank are damaged by zombie hits

everything is damaged by crashes

and I imagine that damagewindow command is called when a zombie tries to get you through the side window

🤯 What Xyber said on his way out might actually be the ticket. Every single zombie hit increases the blood intensity, which I think is set with VehicleCommands.Commands.setBloodIntensity(), if so, hooking into BaseVehicle:setBloodIntensity() should fire every single impact... gonna try right now

[bronze yoke]

you can't hook into that though

it's being called from java half of the time right

[astral dune]

Thats what I'm going to test. If the blood intensity is set by that command, we're good. If not then we're SOL

[bronze yoke]

well i'm ever hopeful!

[astral dune]

crashing into an object is handled this way, so we may get lucky

[astral dune]

dang, no go

[astral dune]

ok, so this is what I've found re: detecting and/or stopping damage to a vehicle from the lua side

1. Crashing into stationary objects aka trees, fences, building etc:
   BaseVehicle.crash() is called, from the lua, every time this happens. Hooking into it lets you reduce the damage or negate the crash altogether
2. Hitting zombies
   So far no secret sauce, but if you're going to run a OnTick or OnPlayerUpdate event listener that checks the vehicle, storing and comparing BaseVehicle.getBloodIntensity("Front") and BaseVehicle.getBloodIntensity("Rear") will tell you at least when an impact has happened, or at least one large enough to cause damage. At which point you can then scan through the parts to see what got damaged and revert it if you choose. This is more performant than checking the parts every tick, but how much more performant? I don't know. Also could run into an issue if blood intensity has a cap, because after that obviously it wouldn't change again until you clean the car. If thats the case you may have to check if its hit the cap and revert it a little
3. Zombies breaking windows to eat your brains
   Hooking into VehicleWindow.damage will let you know every time this happens and alter it. Unfortunately, you'll have no idea what window on what vehicle is being damaged. Using the Reflection library, you could get a hold of the part the window is in, and if you make a habit of marking a vehicle's parts with its ID then you could retrieve it, but its all kind of a mess. Personally I'm just going to go back to overwriting VehicleCommands.lua and adding the line return VehicleCommands at the bottom. By doing this, you can just hook into the commands VehicleCommands.Commands.crash() and VehicleCommands.Commands.damageWindow() and still have painless access to the vehicle being damaged

tl;dr
you can detect and sometimes alter all damage a vehicle takes, fairly efficiently, by watching a couple things. But there are challenges

[astral dune]

Oh i almost forgot, there is another kind of damage, wear and tear, that can be intercepted by overwriting each part's update function. The only kinds of damage left are from guns and potentially players smashing a window. I'm not sure if the zombie window protection will work in that instance

[summer rune]

i have my icon of a new item in media/textures/subfolder/Item_BusTicket.png

and this is the content of items_BusTicket:

module Test
{
    imports
    {
        Base
    }

    item BusTicket
    {
        Type = Normal,
        Weight = 0.01,
        DisplayName = Bus Ticket,
        DisplayCategory = Junk,
        Icon = subfolder/BusTicket,
        WorldStaticModel = PaperNapkins_Ground,
    }

}

But in the game the icon is not showing up. any idea?

[hollow current]

I am not sure if folder names matter, but here's how I got my custom item icon to work:

--Battery Jumpstarter\Contents\mods\Battery Jumpstarter\media\scripts\item_jumpstarter.txt
module Base
{
    /************************ Mechanic Items ************************/
    item Jumpstarter
    {
        DisplayCategory = Tool,
        Weight    =    5,
        Type    =    Drainable,
        UseDelta = 0.2,
        DisappearOnUse = FALSE,
        UseWhileEquipped    =    FALSE,
        DisplayName    =    Battery Jumpstarter,
        Icon    =    Jumpstarter,
        MechanicsItem = TRUE,
        Tooltip = Tooltip_item_Jumpstarter,
        WorldStaticModel = Jumpstarter_Ground,
    }
}```

then I put the icon in the following directory:

Battery Jumpstarter\Contents\mods\Battery Jumpstarter\media\textures\item_Jumpstarter.png

You also want to make sure your icon is .png

[summer rune]

i have the exact same structure, except everything 1 level deeper in subfolders. hmm.

[hollow current]

try to not make it 1 level deeper and see if that changes anything

[hollow current]

any idea where I can find the vanilla code for adding the "randomise" and "play" buttons in the character customization window?

[hearty dew]

ProjectZomboid/media/lua/client/OptionScreens/CharacterCreationMain.lua:        local button = ISButton:new(self.outfitCombo:getRight() + 20, self.yOffset, 15, comboHgt, "Randomize", self)```

[hollow current]

Thanks!

[sleek saffron]

Off the top of my head, I believe it's to cater for mods that alter zombie lore mid-game.

[hearty dew]

Ah, that makes sense

[still spoke]

new to the game how do you deconflict mods in this game?

[hearty dew]

You can create a mod that patches the conflicting mods. Among other things, that may include patching functions, overwriting files, change the lua file load order by using require and deliberately naming files to load a certain way, changing/merging recipies/items.. Lots of stuff. Depends on the nature of the conflict

[still spoke]

well let me be more precise I have a modd causing issues how do I find out the trouble maker, everytime a cutscene starts my game closes back to menu.... but most of my mods are vehicles

I tyried using the debug but its not showing is there a log file?

[hearty dew]

What errors are you getting? It will be logged in Zomboid/console.txt in your home directory

[still spoke]

im not seeing a console.txt in ProjectZomboid in my steam directory

do I have to have debug on to dreate file?

[hearty dew]

Zomboid/console.txt in your home directory

[still spoke]

i do not have a console.txt file in my home directory. Do I have to enable it? Purchase through stream

[hearty dew]

no, it is always created when starting pz

You looked in the Zomboid directory within your home directory?

[flat cipher]

That would be C:\Users(yourname)\Zomboid

[still spoke]

within ProjectZomboid there is no file or subfile labeled console.txt, i just searched and even unhidden filed to verify. No just to make sure Im not stupid by home directory you mean roughly \SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid

ok thanks found it, hold while i read up on the problem

shows the mods being added, and exiting to main screen but doesnt say why?

[hearty dew]

Tons of errors in there. Here is the first:

LOG  : General     , 1665522336725> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
function: POETBagsBuffMODDED.lua -- file: POETBagsBuffMODDED.lua line # 12 | MOD: [POET] Carry More Stuff

ERROR: General     , 1665522336730> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in POETBagsBuffMODDED.lua at KahluaUtil.fail line:82.
ERROR: General     , 1665522336730> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in POETBagsBuffMODDED.lua
    at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaUtil.fail(KahluaUtil.java:82)
    at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.luaMainloop(KahluaThread.java:973)
    at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.call(KahluaThread.java:163)
    at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1980)
    at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1782)
    at se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.pcall(LuaCaller.java:76)
    at se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.protectedCall(LuaCaller.java:117)
    at zombie.Lua.LuaManager.RunLuaInternal(LuaManager.java:555)
    at zombie.Lua.LuaManager.RunLua(LuaManager.java:501)
    at zombie.Lua.LuaManager.RunLua(LuaManager.java:487)
    at zombie.Lua.LuaManager.LoadDirBase(LuaManager.java:334)
    at zombie.Lua.LuaManager.LoadDirBase(LuaManager.java:261)
    at zombie.Lua.LuaManager.LoadDirBase(LuaManager.java:380)
    at zombie.GameWindow.init(GameWindow.java:1203)
    at zombie.GameWindow.mainThreadInit(GameWindow.java:575)
    at zombie.GameWindow.mainThread(GameWindow.java:488)
    at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)```

[still spoke]

Im not sure code wise as im new to this game, bu what is the killer one here looking for critical error or something to that end

LOG : General , 1665567112634> EXITDEBUG: MainScreenState.enter 2
DEBUG: Animation , 1665567112635> FileTask_LoadMesh.loadFBX > Loading: G:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\models_X\vehicles\Vehicles_SmallCar02.FBX
LOG : General , 1665567119789> EXITDEBUG: onMenuItemMouseDownMainMenu 1 (item=MODS)
LOG : General , 1665568079961> EXITDEBUG: RenderThread.isCloseRequested 1
LOG : General , 1665568079961> EXITDEBUG: GameWindow.exit 1

SmallCar02 comes up alot

[thick karma]

The moment of the error was during the execution of POETBagsBuffMODDED.lua. You look to pay attention to this line especially: Object tried to call nil in POETBagsBuffMODDED.lua at KahluaUtil.fail line:82.

Specifically, Object tried to call nil means the function called by an object was perceived not to exist, perhaps because referenced it incorrectly, or perhaps because it truly does not exist.

[kindred dagger]

Question. How would you go about editing a container? As in furniture. I'm trying to simply increase the capacity of various bookshelves, but I don't really know where to start.

[thick karma]

I've never done it, but, shot in the dark, you might need setCapacity(int capacity) in zombie.inventory.ItemContainer (https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/inventory/ItemContainer.html)

[kindred dagger]

That's the thing, I looked there but setCapacity is not in ItemContainer.

[thick karma]

This guy might have solved it: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2719850086&searchtext=container

Do you know how to look at his code by subscribing to the file?

[kindred dagger]

Yeah I do, I did it here and there. I'll give it a look

[thick karma]

GL

[still spoke]

@thick karma @hearty dew Thanks for your time and help

[thick karma]

No worries, you make progress solving that error?

[kindred dagger]

That mod didn't really help as it doesn't touch furniture items from what I can tell. An idea would be to replicate the Organized trait behavior, maybe.

[shadow geyser]

I don't think you can modify container size in a way that will save in the container through lua. you would need to make a new tile with the new size. I faintly remember that someone tried to modify them in code, and it was possible for existing containers, but that it would get reverted when the tile is unloaded and loaded. Im guessing because when being saved and unloaded, the tile is saved as the original tile rather than a new thing with the adjusted properties. so depending on how variable you want to be able to expand the capacity it might be easier to just make for example 4 more copies of the bookshelf with varying capacities in the tile sets, then when your character upgrades a bookshelf, you would replace the tile with the upgraded ones, rather than trying to modify the existing bookshelf

[kindred dagger]

Mhmmm. This is annoying because I do it easily with wearable items :/

That method you described would only work for any new item that I create, while I'm trying to make work for all containers, to help with mod compatibility.

How does Organized do it then? Clearly it boosts container sizes without editing them prior, right?

[shadow geyser]

unfortunately that stuff is hardcoded in the javaside so I don't think it would be easy to manipulate

   public int getEffectiveCapacity(IsoGameCharacter var1) {
      if (var1 != null && !(this.parent instanceof IsoGameCharacter) && !(this.parent instanceof IsoDeadBody) && !"floor".equals(this.getType())) {
         if (var1.Traits.Organized.isSet()) {
            return (int)Math.max((float)this.Capacity * 1.3F, (float)(this.Capacity + 1));
         }

         if (var1.Traits.Disorganized.isSet()) {
            return (int)Math.max((float)this.Capacity * 0.7F, 1.0F);
         }
      }

      return this.Capacity;
   }

[kindred dagger]

Maybe not manipulate, but replicate. I won't touch anything that's hardcoded

What class is this from, if you don't mind?

[shadow geyser]

ItemContainer.java

[kindred dagger]

Thanks, I'll give it a look. Looks like something I might be able to use or just learn from.

Yeah that's what I thought. There is the getter for capacity but not the setter. Without it I'm stuck

[ornate flax]

Simple question, how do you get the user name client side. getPlayer().getUsername() doesn't work

[thick karma]

You mean the name of their character or the Steam user name?

[hearty dew]

Are you running in steam mode? If so, I wonder whether username even supposed to be set in steam mode

[thick karma]

using :getUsername() returns the name of the player you're controlling

I just tested it before replying to Sal

I am trying to figure out if he just needs a colon instead of a dot, or if he needs different info entirely

"doesn't work" is ambiguous

[hearty dew]

oh, yea, should use : syntax there

[ornate flax]

ok will try that...

lol, NFI what i'm doing but managed to make good progress anyhow

[thick karma]

Persistence is half the battle. (The other half, of course, is knowing. GI Joe.)

[viral vale]

Hey, does anyone know where I can find a list of all names that can be randomly generated? Like their first and last names separately

[austere finch]

FWIW Organized / Disorganized in multiplayer don't revise a container's capacity for all players, only for the players with those traits interacting with something -- doubtless to prevent a situation where disorganized players grief people by shrinking containers, or people insisting someone with Organized go rifle through all the boxes like King Midas' touch.

[ornate flax]

So it worked.. thanks guys. My mod is done!

[undone elbow]

How to get items AFTER death?

getPlayer():getInventory():getItems() -- empty list

[thick karma]

When I want to test a mod online with another player, do I need to upload it to the workshop first?

Or can I share the file directly or something like that?

[bronze yoke]

you can share the files directly

[thick karma]

Nice... is anyone bored enough to help me test my Meditation mod? I'll give you credit on the Workshop page to move people who see my mod in the direction of your mods...

[hearty dew]

I've seen other mod code that accesses the inventory on the death event Events.OnPlayerDeath. Might try that?

After death, maybe the inventory contents is no longer on the IsoPlayer object? Perhaps it moves to a zombie object? Just a hunch

[undone elbow]

May be. The issue is the mod data on clothes is removed on death.

In multiplayer

[thick karma]

Hey, when I try to Host, I get a weird error...

What's weird is I'm only running one version of Mobile Reader on server and it comes from the Steam Workshop tab

So how would it be referencing the old one?

[bronze yoke]

if you have it installed to both folders, then some weird stuff might happen

the priorities for which it loads are weird

[thick karma]

I see. Okay, so in general, just develop in Workshop and ignore mods if a mod is intended for online play?

[bronze yoke]

it depends, i find it easier to test locally with two non-steam clients, and they won't load anything in workshop

just make sure to stick to one (or at least only have one in its folder at a time), the load priorities can be inconsistent

[thick karma]

Do you have to buy the game outside of Steam to launch it independently of Steam?

[bronze yoke]

no, you just use the launch argument -nosteam

or maybe -nonsteam i don't remember exactly

[thick karma]

I see, okay thanks

[bronze yoke]

this way you can join a local server with multiple clients without steam auth tripping out

[thick karma]

Oh wow so I can launch a second Zomboid using -nonsteam (or something) and join my own hosted server for testing?

Also, can the nonsteam client join a Steam host?

[bronze yoke]

no, everything needs to be nosteam

[thick karma]

Got it, appreciate all info

[kindred dagger]

I give up on my furniture thing. Can't figure out a way to change that without editing one a java class.

[agile lily]

Hello, this is probably a dumb question but where can one find the scripts for the different medical items? In the "items" .txt there are some, but they do not define what should happen to the character once they get used. Any ideas?

[hearty dew]

The ItemTweaker api prints a line for each item it tweaks. With all the mods I have, it comes out to 5521 items.

The function to apply all those tweaks takes around 22 seconds with a print for each of those tweaks.

After changing the code to append each line to be printed into a table and doing one big print at the end, print(table.concat(printOutput, "\n")), it only takes 0.1 seconds 🤯

[hearty dew]

There is a newitems.txt. Might check that. If not, you can search all the scripts files for what you are looking for, bandage, alcohol, etc

[bronze yoke]

yeah, prints are really really slow

[austere finch]

You will be my hero forever if we can somehow manage to encapsulate all these various rogue duplicate copies of ItemTweaker and its derivatives and just make a cohesive package with more efficient code.

I'm running 390 mods so you can imagine how long itemtweaker takes for me when I have basically four variations of it all running ongameboot

[hearty dew]

Oh, this is awesome. I had a function running for like 5 mins to print out some info about objects before I finally gave up and killed pz. Now it prints in about a second

[hearty dew]

Yea, that's what I've done heh

[austere finch]

DarkSlayerEX hasn't updated ItemTweaker since 2015, if they'd be willing to pass the custodial torch that would be a huge boon for the modding scene in general I think.

[astral dune]

strings and printing are always the slowest part of anything, good job

[thick karma]

@bronze yoke Issue just occurred to me... if I run with no Steam, it won't connect my controller via Steam, will it?

Seems like an obviously or at least probably not...

[bronze yoke]

if you're launching the game through steam i think it still will

[thick karma]

Okay, so I just launch game once through Steam, and then once through Explorer, and host from Explorer version and test on Steam nonsteam? That should work afayk?

[bronze yoke]

i think so!

[ancient grail]

suppose to be
getPlayer():getUsername()

[ornate flax]

Yeah, it's working now. I assume : is because it's LUA calling Java?

[thick karma]

Appreciate the direction, will try that

[astral dune]

: is used for functions that have self as their first argument. This would be any non-static method being passed from Java, but you'll also see it from lua stuff as well

aka Something:setValue(input) === Something.setValue(self, input)

[shadow geyser]

I mean you don't really need itemtweaker. its basically just a one liner

[austere finch]

Even so, it is ubiquitously used in a lot of mods.

[shadow geyser]

right but, there is basically no reason for it to be used in mods

because it doesn't really do anything other than change a getitem call and doparam call into a a tweakitem call

[austere finch]

Most of what I'm getting at is that if you can update and correct some of the core issues in the API you can effectively eliminate those issues in multitudinous mods that otherwise are never going to update on their own.

[astral dune]

The trouble is mods like this end up having 10 different abandoned versions from 10 different Devs and nobody knows which one to use, better to just start over and put in some compat with the original

[shadow geyser]

well, I guess that is true. the way I see it, the problem is caused by using itemtweaker, and itemtweaker really doesn't provide anything IMO.

[austere finch]

It's all well and good that there are better standard practices that could be conveyed to modders who are actively working now, but so many servers and players are sitting on ancient and obsolete versions of legacy staples that are never going to get updated, and once b42 hits there's likely to be all sorts of fallout from people being confused and ornery that 40 mods that haven't been updated since 2016 don't work anymore.

(Referring to broader issues than just ItemTweaker having more efficient alternative implementations now.)

[bronze yoke]

yes, itemtweaker is not as useful as it seems, but patching itemtweaker is by far easier than patching every single mod that uses it

[austere finch]

Right now the biggest problem is that over the years several mods decided 'I use ItemTweaker, but what if ItemTweaker goes missing or gets edited in a way that affects my mod? I know, I'll just pack in my own renamed variant of it for myself.' and then all of them have ongameboot copies of the same routines but they're separate so suddenly a large loadout has four different versions of ItemTweaker all re-running on boot and adding 80 seconds to launch time when it could be 5.

[bronze yoke]

yeah bundling dependencies is really annoying

[ancient grail]

ya think the author will remove it?

[austere finch]

Unlikely, many of them haven't looked at PZ or responded for going on a year or longer.

[austere finch]

This most glaring example of this is probably Better Lockpicking + Profession Framework and the dozens and dozens of visually similar duplicates all trying to fix the same problems but breaking them in different ways.

[bronze yoke]

that one profession framework offshoot is so annoying

it was made to fix a bug that isn't even in profession framework anymore, it overwrites the original completely, and is now a massively outdated version of it that totally breaks one of my mods

[quasi geode]

its very annoying. could have uploaded a single line of lua that would have fixed that bug (ie: a proper patch) but instead uploaded the whole thing causing numerous issues.

[austere finch]

There are a whole lot of core modding staples in PZ that could badly use actively maintained githubs nowadays

Steam's Workshop is kind of awful for trying to have multiple contributors working on things though

[bronze yoke]

i recall some other games having workshop items that used a bot that would automatically update from github

[austere finch]

That sounds fairly slick

[shadow geyser]

yeah, I feel like if steam would let accounts properly transfer ownership of a workshop item, it would be amazing for keeping those older mods alive

and nor requiring filling steam with clones

like for example the irrigation mod I think has 4 different mod pages, as people picked it up then abandoned it after a while

[austere finch]

I mostly feel bad for most of the typical users who (really not blaming them) have no clue of what to look for or how to distinguish what is or isn't a maintained / working copy of something, blind-subscribe to an assortment and then wind up helplessly frustrated when things don't work and not knowing how to troubleshoot it.

[summer rune]

local function tick()
    if ... then
        Events.OnTick.Remove(tick)
    end
end
Events.OnTick.Add(tick)

why does this not work?

xceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in tick

[low sky]

Where’s my fellow Java modders

[hearty dew]

Some variable with nil value in the ... part being called perhaps?

[hearty dew]

It should give you a line number to help narrow it down

[gilded hawk]

Soooo, I don't like the way the context menu is popolated, but apparently this code works

-- This using this globals IMHO is awful, but this is also how TIS does it  so, idk it's free code I guess 
---@diagnostic disable-next-line: lowercase-global
clickedPlayer = nil;

function TMCOnFillWorldObjectContextMenu(player, context, worldobjects, test)
    local playerObj = getSpecificPlayer(player)
    if playerObj:isAsleep() then return end

    for i,v in ipairs(worldobjects) do
        ISWorldObjectContextMenu.fetch(v, player, true);
    end

    if clickedPlayer and clickedPlayer ~= playerObj and not playerObj:HasTrait("Hemophobic") then
        if test == true then return true; end
        local option = context:addOption(getText("ContextMenu_Medical_Check_Mx"), worldobjects, ISWorldObjectContextMenu.onMedicalCheck, playerObj, clickedPlayer)
        if math.abs(playerObj:getX() - clickedPlayer:getX()) > 2 or math.abs(playerObj:getY() - clickedPlayer:getY()) > 2 then
            local tooltip = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.addToolTip();
            option.notAvailable = true;
            tooltip.description = getText("ContextMenu_GetCloser", clickedPlayer:getDisplayName());
            option.toolTip = tooltip;
        end
    end
end

Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(TMCOnFillWorldObjectContextMenu);

clickedPlayer is a global inside ISWorldObjectContextMenu and if you the fetch using ISWorldObjectContextMenu.fetch(v, player, true);, it populates the global in your file too , odd but it works

[bronze yoke]

that sounds similar to a problem someone else had, they couldn't access a global until they required the file, maybe there's something i don't understand about globals

[thick karma]

Anyone want to enlighten me to how the game sends signals to close popup windows? Is it unique for different kinds of windows or is there a universal function that works? Does the game have any built-in function to close all windows (inventory health, server info, etc.) on screen?

[bronze yoke]

doesn't everything close when you die? worth looking into

[thick karma]

Oooo good idea

I dunno if server info and such would

I usually close all that before I die

I'll look into it when I'm home but I'm afk so brainstorming remotely r.n.

[bronze yoke]

it's possible that it just stops the ui entirely when you die, which wouldn't be any good for what i think you're trying to do

[quasi geode]

it populates the global in your file too , odd but it works globals are globals... accessible to all files and functions. if the vanilla is defining the global clickedPlayer theres no need to also define it in your file (all your doing is changing the value, which was probably nil at that point anyways)

[thick karma]

Since I have joy pad detection almost working (may have to work out a bug for MP, but working in SP), i want to assign a button press to close-all

@bronze yoke

That's what I'm trying to do

[bronze yoke]

hm yeah i guess you'll just have to look into exactly how death does it, at worst you might have to manually call whatever function closes each window individually

[gilded hawk]

Interesting, thank you fenris

[bronze yoke]

because it's possible that death just kills the ui entirely

[thick karma]

For sure, and I am aware of the latter option but hoped maybe y'all's collective genius could spare me the pain if I asked haha

[thick karma]

Definitely doing this asap

[willow estuary]

Nobody needs to use item tweaker; it's actually simpler to just use the vanilla functions that it serves as a wrapper for.
The code can just run raw in a lua file in the shared or server directory.

local item = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Vest_BulletPolice")    
if item then 
    item:DoParam("Weight    =    8")
end

If the item exists; it will be tweaked, otherwise nothing will happen.

[austere finch]

Technically it's slightly more onerous because that's multiple lines for TweakItem hitting something on a single line, but nevertheless I'll work to convert at least my own patches to just use that instead of ItemTweaker.

[thick karma]

Add and Remove seem to take an Event object according to the doc online, but whenever I call Add, I do not create an Event object, I just send it a function... Maybe Add has a way of turning a function into an Event, but it doesn't work backwards?

[rugged glade]

Hello, is there a file i can reference to make something that is similar to a clothes dryer in game?

[thick karma]

An Event has an index apparently... Having no index to tell it what to remove could mean remove doesn't work

I do not know... these are guesses

[bronze yoke]

remove does work, a mod of mine uses it

i don't see anything different about this code though so i can't offer any help

[austere finch]

Assuming I'm still defining these categories in the translation file, is this valid as an example if I'm undertaking disassociating applying sorting categories from requiring any version of ItemTweaker?

[astral dune]

which one is the good one?

[bronze yoke]

the one that's just called Profession Framework

this one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1343686691

[astral dune]

ok, that one is the one I'm subscribed to, good. Its a good thing that mods that list the other one as a prereq don't force you to load it

[austere finch]

That depends entirely on if the mod itself listed something as a prereq-- prereqs on steam workshop are a separate thing

If you run a mod that wants the antiquated b41 profession framework version it'll force it in-game.

[bronze yoke]

obnoxiously, that version has more than twice as many subscribers

[austere finch]

Yep

[rugged glade]

Hello, is there a file i can reference to make something that is similar to a clothes dryer in game?

like i want to make a clothesline so people can dry their clothes off the grid but am having trouble finding any kind of tutorial or anything for help

[austere finch]

Considering you can dry clothes in an oven, you may be able to accomplish something like that by making a container that warms its contents as a surrogate clothesline -- though it'd also technically cook food placed on it. 🤔

[bronze yoke]

you probably just need to setWetness() periodically, i've never done anything with containers so i'm not sure exactly how you'd do that though

[rugged glade]

thank you for the advice! ill have to look into those.

[agile lily]

Hello, how do you set the model and texture of an item you've created yourself? I've followed some tutorials who (barely) explain how to do this and looked at some other workshop mods as an example, but I still can't figure it out. Anyone got a link to some sort of wiki for this or knowledge on this topic they'd like to drop for me? <3

[austere finch]

I wonder how much the total workshop count for PZ is inflated by Brita's requiring servers to publish their own separate settings mod

[bronze yoke]

probably a couple hundred 😨

[hollow current]

Does Lua have the functionality to pick something randomly from a .json table? Or is there a better way of doing it?

[thick karma]

Google suggesting to me you'll need an external library to play with JSON n LUA but I could be wrong

At a glance lunajson might help

@hollow current

[hollow current]

Will look into it, thanks!

[hearty dew]

@austere finch steam://openurl/https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2874475795
If you want to test out the patches to make ItemTweaker load faster

[shadow geyser]

an idea came to me. if you intend to make a modification to make itemtweaker faster, one thing you can to mitigate issues from people packaging in their own mod, is to clear the ItemTweaks table so any further inserts into OnGameBoot will have an empty table to parse through. ofc it won't work if the modders also renamed the table but many probably haven't. then you just need to manipulate the event tabel to make sure yours is first

[hearty dew]

I use JSON.lua http://regex.info/blog/lua/json

MyMod = MyMod or {}
MyMod.JSON = require("lib/JSON")
local jsontext = MyMod.JSON:encode({"foo", bar = "baz"})
local object = MyMod.JSON:decode(jsontext)

It serializes well to files too using getFileWriter / getModFileWriter / etc

[hollow current]

Gonna give this this a go

thanks!

[astral dune]

I have a couple mods that "require" the knockoff version, but they work with the original since they both use the same function names and variables. I think the only way they'd be incompatible is if they checked the workshop id or if it relied on some function that only exists in one or the other

[bronze yoke]

one of my mods needs a few functions that are only in the official version

i don't think the official version lacks anything in the forked version though, i'm pretty sure it's just a one-line change of a now very outdated version of the framework

[gilded hawk]

To indentify a user, should I use :getUsername() or :getSteamID()? 🤔

[bronze yoke]

getSteamID() will only work on steam

[ruby urchin]

It depends on what you want to do, but usually, it's through his id getOnlineID

[astral dune]

Isn't that just a small integer?

[gilded hawk]

I'm looking to set the "owner" of an item and I need it to work in SP and MP

[ancient grail]

if u have a function with a local variable
and within thay function u called another function (without the "return")
will the parent function absorb the local var from the function i called
or will it pass to the child function its local var or only "return" can send variables this way?

[gilded hawk]

At the moment I'm doing it like this:

    local bodyMeasurementsItem = self.character:getInventory():AddItem("TailorMadeClothes.BodyMeasurements")

    local name = "Measurement of " .. self.otherPlayer:getUsername()

    bodyMeasurementsItem:setName(string.sub(name, 1, MAXIMUM_RENAME_LENGTH));

    local itemModData = bodyMeasurementsItem:getModData()
    itemModData["bodyMeasurementsID"] = GetBodyMeasurementsID(self.otherPlayer)

function GetBodyMeasurementsID(otherPlayer)
    return otherPlayer:getSteamID() ~= 0 and otherPlayer:getSteamID() or otherPlayer:getUsername()
end

[ancient grail]

for single player you can just do something
if getPlayer():getUsername() == "the userneme" then

for mp u have to make a read write files i guess

[bronze yoke]

only return

[ruby urchin]

Oh I see, in this case, getting the id will not help you much, you can try with what you mentioned above

[ancient grail]

can we return multiple var?
or we do that by array containg the var?

[bronze yoke]

yes

[ancient grail]

ok thnx alot

[bronze yoke]

return a,b,c
a,b,c = function()

[gilded hawk]

I'm wondering if this would work

function GetBodyMeasurementsID(otherPlayer)
    if not isClient() then
        return 'localPlayer' -- for SP Only
    end
    return otherPlayer:getSteamID() ~= 0 and otherPlayer:getSteamID() or otherPlayer:getUsername() -- for Steam and NoSteam
end

[undone elbow]

local tick;
tick = function()
    if ... then
        Events.OnTick.Remove(tick)
    end
end
Events.OnTick.Add(tick)

Note that RELOAD such a lua file in debug mode will cause glitches.

[weak sierra]

and it's broken, too

lol

[undone elbow]

This should work: 🙂 lua function GetBodyMeasurementsID(otherPlayer) return otherPlayer:getUsername() end

[low sky]

where is my java devs at

✋

[gilded hawk]

Would this work even In SP? 🤔 Does the player have a username in SP?

[weak sierra]

yes

it's their char firstlast

[undone elbow]

Sure. It's just name + surname

[weak sierra]

yeah

[astral dune]

who would be the otherplayer in SP?

[gilded hawk]

😮 interesting

[weak sierra]

herobrine

[undone elbow]

There is also

player:getFullName() -- first name + " " (space) + surname

[astral dune]

🤯

[magic nymph]

Thanks man

Has anyone tried using getMaintenanceMod()?

This is the code from 41.68, I'm not sure if anything has changed.

      int var1 = this.getPerkLevel(PerkFactory.Perks.Maintenance);
      var1 += this.getWeaponLevel() / 2;
      return var1 / 2;
   }

I'm on 41.71 and calling that method gets a value of 2 for Maintenance 5 with a weapon at level 5. Expected value should be 3.

[astral dune]

given that its integers it looks like the outcomes are being truncated

[magic nymph]

Yeah, I tested it and Java floors any double to int coercision, but it should still be 3, no?

[astral dune]

ya I suppose so, unless += is somehow evaluated before the /2, which would strike me as odd

do either perk level or weapon level start at 0 instead of 1?

[bronze yoke]

they both do, but that's how it's displayed in-game anyway

[astral dune]

I didn't even know weapons had levels 🤷‍♂️

[bronze yoke]

isn't getWeaponLevel() just shorthand for getPerkLevel(whatever perk the weapon you're holding uses)?

[astral dune]

ah, I see, so BaseballBat.getWeaponLevel() would return your long blunt perk

[magic nymph]

I double checked getPerkLevel(Perks.Maintenance) and it returns 5. I'll try out getWeaponLevel now.

[wanton dirge]

Literally my first day attempting to mod PZ. I want to create a whitelist of destroyable objects. I may be naïve but so far I think I could do this by overriding the ISDestroyCursor:isValid function in ISDestroyCursor to only work for a set list of objects/tiles if the user isn't an admin but I'm a bit stuck on how to find the objects/tiles I want to be able to destroy.

[magic nymph]

Yeah, it also returns the proper weapon level

All I can think of is that there's a method that overrides it and that it's getting called. But I haven't found that method, yet.

FWIW, I'm using the getPlayer() function to get the values in Lua.

Either way, I appreciate the help.

If someone could dump a print statement in a mod and check the return value of getPlayer():getMaintenanceMod(), I'd appreciate it. Maybe it's something on my end, but I have tested with only 1 mod running, so it could be that that the code is different for 41.71 or who knows.

[bronze yoke]

it's actually part of IsoGameCharacter, but yeah, i think so

[neat kraken]

hello, I'm wanting to learn to program and I really like pz, is starting with mods a good start?

[astral dune]

on 41.77 , with maintenance 5 and long blunt 5, I get a maintenance mod of 3 on a baseball bat

[thick karma]

Desperately searching lua's for any details on death or dying events, or more directly for any details on UI closing events, and coming up empty-handed 😭

I wish there were a LUA/client/UI folder or some equivalent that just dealt with all of the popup interface crap

[ruby urchin]

Create a item or something like that, also you can see other mods to get exp or check game files

[astral dune]

lua is mostly pass by reference when it comes to tables, right?

[neat kraken]

where do you develop?

[thick karma]

I like VS Code because it's dark and almost as fast as notepad and has autoformatting for many things, including LUA

And it's free

[thick karma]

https://code.visualstudio.com/

[neat kraken]

thank u bro

[ruby urchin]

I've seen people using notepad lmao, I can't understand that

[thick karma]

I just hate how it looks and the lack of autoformatting is in general a huge waste of my time

The tenth of a second saved opening Notepad is paid for 100-fold by autoformatting.

[wanton dirge]

My best code is written in notepad with my monitors brightness and contrast maxed out at 3am.

[thick karma]

That sounds like a personal problem. 😉

[thick karma]

This would likely be of great assistance to you in learning to do what @ruby urchin recommended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tZujOPnDw

[ruby urchin]

yep

[thick karma]

(Expect to pause often.)

[neat kraken]

this will be very useful, thx

[calm acorn]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/bukkit-plugins/amchat

oh wait wrong java 😛

[low sky]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/just-another-economy-plugin.100709/

😛

i have quit doing stuff in mc tho

because i quit playing mc

i quit like a month ago since i only played anarchy mc and that finally got to a point where it was so dead it wasn't even worth to play anymore

shit was boring af

[calm acorn]

every time i start looking at mod packs i start getting that itch but then i remember all the hell i went though with just getting stuff working with forge and gradle, but i was using eclipse at the time.

[low sky]

just use intellij

there is a plugin on intellij now

that will set up the project for you

and you can just jump straight into coding

[calm acorn]

im using intellij now but mainly to decompile pz so i can look at all the fun undocumented stuff

[low sky]

i won't make pz mods until i can learn how to use storm api

i refuse to learn lua

i won't kneel down to the devs wanting to make the game easier to mod for kids

[calm acorn]

well im more a c# guy now but i guess 90% of the time the same.. ish code lol

[low sky]

@slow granite just wondering do you think there will ever be native java modding?

or at least a official api to do it instead of having to use a back doored method like storm api

[low sky]

i just prefer java

it looks cleaner imo

and i prefer the way it operates

that's why i kinda want to learn whichever c lang is closer to java i forgot if it is c++ or c#

[calm acorn]

c# is just msjava

[low sky]

i think it might be c#

[low sky]

ye

i am about to try and add a event bus to my game i am making

any hints?

[calm acorn]

I have more use for it at work, im a IT system admin so i deal with powershell and .net at work

[low sky]

i want it to be able to be able do the @SubscribeEvent call

[low sky]

ah that's dope

that is what i want to be when i get out of college

atm i am a senior

in hs*

any hints?

i could def use some

i have the general idea of going into computer science in college but just wondering if there is something more specialized you would recommend to get a more higher chance at acquiring a it system admin job?

[ancient grail]

theres an debug tool on the context menu that lets you push zed or stagger them
but this is only happens to the one doing the command . on other players eyes it didnt happen right?
do you guys think its possible to make it for real i mean make it so that it actually happened?

[mellow gust]

How do I go about changing animations for zombies based on their current speed (Sprinter, Shambler, Slow Shambler) and tying that to a sandbox setting as well.

[ancient grail]

this has been done by UdderlyEvelyn when she made a patch on Bikini's mod

[bronze yoke]

i knew you were lying about the company lol

[ancient grail]

check out other zombie mods for reference i guess

[astral dune]

is it possible to send a message to a particular radio in game, or is it all channel based?

[thick karma]

I tried to find death-related UI closing events or other UI closing events of any kind in the LUA earlier @bronze yoke... Alas, I failed to find anything. I have no idea whether a window-close call can be sent to Zomboid on the LUA side. Have you ever seen anyone do custom menus in this game, or can you think of any other mods that might have a hint about how it could be done if it is possible?

[bronze yoke]

sorry, i have no idea

[thick karma]

No sweat just thought I'd ask

[bronze yoke]

i've been lucky enough to avoid ui for the most part

[thick karma]

Your idea was legit but I am failing to find anything good unfortunately

[bronze yoke]

it must be from java or something

[thick karma]

My thoughts too

[bronze yoke]

if you have the object, yeah

WaveSignalDevice:AddDeviceText()

[worldly olive]

Hello! @undone elbow just saw that you are the creator of Mod Options mod, and just saw (and checked to confirm) that since today's hot fix the mods that adds options are throwing error (I'm also getting this with Customizable Zombies), I switched to public branch and no problems, also tried with the mod isolated. If you are interested in checking 🙂

[undone elbow]

Yes, getCore():getVersionNumber() doesn't work

I guess this function has been removed

[astral dune]

nice, I'll give that a go

[worldly olive]

Ohh, makes sense why Bow and Arrow also throwed that error. Gottcha 🙂 thanks for the explanation

[bronze yoke]

not sure what the last argument is but the first five should be text, r, g, b (as values from 0-1), codes

[astral dune]

codes?

[undone elbow]

I can add backwards compatibility patch to ModOptions, so all that mods will work fine, if you use ModOptions 🙂

[worldly olive]

Yeah, some of the mods I use, uses the Mod Option so is always there in the modlist xD

[bronze yoke]

stuff like stress reduction

if you're just using it as a fancy print like you mentioned a while back, you can probably just pass an empty string

[astral dune]

ya, more or less, I want debug messages about a particular vehicle to come out of that vehicle's radio

first var is a player, hmm

I guess only a single player can see the message, little odd

[bronze yoke]

weird! that's not how it shows up on the javadoc

[astral dune]

deaf players can't hear debug messages I guess

ah, looks like the one without the player is an overload

WaveSignalDevice has no implementation for the non-player version, so I guess its up to whatever implementation the vehicle radio has

[bronze yoke]

oh that's right, that's an interface

[astral dune]

ya, they didn't follow the i prefix convention, smdh

[bronze yoke]

well the vehicle radio is implemented in VehiclePart

[astral dune]

triggers an event, so its completely different than the other one. That's neat. Looks like the last var may be the channel

oh, no, its a distance setting of some kind, not sure what it does I'll just have to mess with it

oooh, the interactions let you do the perk points or buffs/debuffs, thats kinda cool

[undone elbow]

Fixed. Update ModOptions, it should fix all the mods.

It was easy enough. ```lua
-- Path the core, so fix all the mods causing errors.
local core = getCore()
local m = getmetatable(core).__index
if m.getVersion then
m.getVersionNumber = m.getVersion
end

[worldly olive]

Oh, that was fast 😂

Awesome!

[astral dune]

been trying for 30 minutes to get some code with table.unpack() to work, only to find its just unpack() in kahlua apparently 🤦‍♂️

[undone elbow]

Show your example. What is your goal?

[ruby urchin]

yep #mod_development message

[hollow current]

Is there a way to somehow temporarily increase the chance a player misses his shot (guns) and miss his swing (melee weapons)?

[ruby urchin]

I think the accuracy perk looks like be directly related, did you check it?

[hollow current]

Nope, gonna check it out

[jaunty marten]

I didn't test and not sure u can use it via lua but only java
but u can try to use getAimingPerkHitChanceModifier/setAimingPerkHitChanceModifier

[astral dune]

whelp, after sorting out the table.unpack vs unpack issue and fighting through some client/server shenanigans, I finally got debug messages to come out of a vehicle's radio

kinda neat, even if a bit pointless in the long run

[hollow current]

Can't successfully put it to use. Can't find either in vanilla files either

[summer rune]

thank you. that worked. 🔥

[hollow current]

aa i see, but doesn't this set the hit chance modifier for a specified weapon only, rather than making it apply to all weapons?

[jaunty marten]

u can add mod on equip and remove on unequip

[hollow current]

makes sense, gonna try putting that to use in that way. thanks!

[bronze yoke]

yeah it's pointless but it's cool as hell

[jaunty marten]

yep gl

[shadow geyser]

I think the latest one is working

[ruby urchin]

lmao someone forgot to remove some prints on ...\ISUI\ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.lua#L448-L459

[stray yacht]

Hey gang I am hyper new to lua, coming in from quasi-intermediate C#. I'm getting a "tried to call a non-function" error from line 31. Anyone able to spot why that is? My "ask google" skills have failed me here

(ps I'm 99% sure that someTable[i] is not at all what I want, but I was playing around with that one in desperation.)

[ruby urchin]

Line 30 should be for i, v in pairs(someTable) do

also in Line 31 you will want set the value and not the key

[hollow current]

soo im trying to get text from the forenameEntry textbox (the textbox where you enter your name in character customization), and use it in another textbox modal. My code doesn't seem to be working correctly. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
Here's the error:

ERROR: General     , 1665641709506> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: getText of non-table: null at KahluaThread.tableget line:1689.
ERROR: General     , 1665641709506> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: getText of non-table: null```

and here's my code:

function CharacterCreationMain:onBackgroundButton()
    self.modal = ISTextBox:new(660, 250, 600, 500, "Test Modal", self.forenameEntry:getText(), nil, self.buttonConfirm);
    self.modal:setNumberOfLines(15)
    self.modal:setMultipleLine(true)
    self.modal:initialise();
    self.modal:addToUIManager();
end```

the problem is primarily with self.forenameEntry:getText() since changing it to a simple text works

aaand ofc I find the solution right after I post the problem.
had to change it to MainScreen.instance.charCreationHeader.forenameEntry:getText()

[stray yacht]

Pairs! Thanks lots, working now 🙏

[hearty dew]

Also would encourage you to encapsulate your reimplementation of TweakItem somewhat, rather than overwrite the global TweakItem function. That's used by 100 other mods. Something like: ```lua
MyModNamespace = MyModNamespace or {}
MyModNamespace.TweakItemData = MyModNamespace.TweakItemData or {}
function MyModNamespace.TweakItem(itemName, itemProperty, propertyValue)
MyModNamespace.TweakItemData[itemName] = MyModNamespace.TweakItemData[itemName] or {}
MyModNamespace.TweakItemData[itemName][itemProperty] = propertyValue
end

MyModNamespace.TweakItem("Base.Apple", etc etc)

[stray yacht]

Hmm I'm not going to touch the TweakItem function, I'm just implementing a new "TweakTable" function in there. Should be alright I think?

@hearty dew

[hearty dew]

I don't understand the context. How are you only adding a new function? Is not the entire file within your mod? Or is it mostly duplicated from ItemTweaker_Core.lua?

Or are you modifying another mod locally? (which is going to cause issues in multiplayer, because it does lua file checksums)

[stray yacht]

Duplicated from ItemTweaker_Core.lua yeah. Just following what I've seen some other mods do where they've entirely duplicated tweaker core at the top of their lua for the item adjustments

[hearty dew]

And adding another TweakTable function isn't a problem, no. It's the overwriting of TweakItem that can cause issues (It's an issue because many mods do this, they make little changes, and overwrite the same global function that many mods use)

[stray yacht]

Okay should be good then, not touching that!

[hearty dew]

No, you are touching it. lol. That's the issue 😂

[stray yacht]

Ohhh no haha I don't get lua at all 🤣

[hearty dew]

So if you want to add a copy of ItemTweaker_Core.lua inside your own mod without overwriting any other implementations, this is how you can do that (thought I wouldn't do this personally, but it won't cause any big issues):

[stray yacht]

Oh wow I think I got it already

[hearty dew]

-- This is the copy of ItemTweaker_Core.lua. It shouldn't have your additions in it
-- It must be placed in your mod at this file path: media/lua/client/ItemTweaker_Core.lua
-- If multiple mods have a lua file at the same path, pz will only load one file from the
-- mod that's last in the mod load order

function TweakItem(bla) end

-- leave this untouched

-- This has your additions. It can go in media/lua/client/mymod_ItemTweakerAdditions.lua or where ever you want
require("ItemTweaker_Core")
function TweakTable(blah)
  ...
end

[stray yacht]

So I don't need an "import" or "using" like Python or C#, just do a require and then I can use the global functions without addressing them as extention methods?

Got it got it awesome, thanks!

[hearty dew]

👍

[hollow current]

can you gimme a quick example of how to put getFileWriter to use? Can't seem to get it to read json text from a json file

[hearty dew]

ArendamethUtils = ArendamethUtils or {}


ArendamethUtils.readFile = function(filename, createIfDoesntExist)
    if createIfDoesntExist == nil then
        createIfDoesntExist = false
    end
    local reader = getFileReader(filename, createIfDoesntExist)
    if not reader then
        return nil
    end
    local lines = {}
    local line
    repeat
        line = reader:readLine()
        if line then
            table.insert(lines, line)
        end
    until not line
    reader:close()
    return table.concat(lines, "\n")
end

ArendamethUtils.readModFile = function(modId, filename, createIfDoesntExist)
    if createIfDoesntExist == nil then
        createIfDoesntExist = false
    end
    local reader = getModFileReader(modId, filename, createIfDoesntExist)
    if not reader then
        return nil
    end
    local lines = {}
    local line
    repeat
        line = reader:readLine()
        if line then
            table.insert(lines, line)
        end
    until not line
    reader:close()
    return table.concat(lines, "\n")
end

ArendamethUtils.writeFile = function(filename, contents, createIfDoesntExist, append)
    if createIfDoesntExist == nil then
        createIfDoesntExist = true
    end
    if append == nil then
        append = false
    end
    local writer = getFileWriter(filename, createIfDoesntExist, append)
    if writer then
        writer:write(contents)
        writer:close()
        return true
    else
        return false
    end
end

ArendamethUtils.writeModFile = function(modId, filename, contents, createIfDoesntExist, append)
    if createIfDoesntExist == nil then
        createIfDoesntExist = true
    end
    if append == nil then
        append = false
    end
    local writer = getModFileWriter(modId, filename, createIfDoesntExist, append)
    if writer then
        writer:write(contents)
        writer:close()
        return true
    else
        return false
    end
end

Let me know if you have any issues with those. Just wrote them the other day and haven't tested most of them yet

[hollow current]

I assume I only need the .readFile part, since I am not looking to do anything but to fetch JSON table form a JSON file?

[hearty dew]

Yea. So getFileReader/Writer looks in Zomboid/Lua. The getModReader/Writer looks in the mod's folder.

So if you have ~/Zomboid/Lua/somejson.json,

MyMod = MyMod or {}
MyMod.JSON = require("lib/JSON")

local jsontext = ArendamethUtils.readFile("somejson.json")
if not jsontext then error("do your error handling") end
local object = MyMod.JSON:decode(jsontext)

Think that'd do it

missing the json error handling

Actually haven't written any error handling for it myself either 😝

That library has an involved interface for error handling. It's written inside the JSON.lua file if you want to dig into it. As I recall, by default, it will just call error("error message"), which may be sufficient for your use case

[hollow current]

jsontext returns nil. probably something's wrong with my implmentation

[hearty dew]

Is your file at ~/Zomboid/Lua/somejson.json?

[hollow current]

no its in Lua/client

[hearty dew]

Are you trying to read a file from ~/Zomboid/Lua/client/ or from media/lua/client/ inside your mod?

[hollow current]

the latter, inside my mod

[hearty dew]

Okay, you need lua local jsontext = ArendamethUtils.readModFile("MyModID", "media/lua/client/somejson.json")

[hollow current]

does the same concept apply to MyMod.JSON = require("lib/JSON")?

I have JSON in ~/media/lua/client/lib/JSON.lua

[hearty dew]

Yes, you'd put JSON.lua at media/lua/shared/lib/JSON.lua to use it as require("lib/JSON.lua")

[hearty dew]

that's fine too

makes a little more sense conceptually in shared/ but it should work either way

Also, just fyi, ~ means user/home directory. I see that's causing some confusion

[hollow current]

aaah got it

lemme place in shared

aand also I am getting error thrown at local reader = getFileReader(filename, createIfDoesntExist)

from ArendamethUtils

lemme add error handling

hmm i am not sure what the problem is, doesn't print any error in console

[hearty dew]

let me test it out, sec

Hmm, worked for me when tried with a non-existent file (returned nil) and with an existent file (returned the file contents).

You're getting an exception on that line? If so, can you get it from ~/Zomboid/console.txt?

[hollow current]

Trying to but doesn't seem to print any exceptions in console.txt

it looks normal

[hearty dew]

How do you know it is causing an error if there is no exception?

[hollow current]

It gives me the "error window" in game

[hearty dew]

ah

[hollow current]

also hold on I may have found the issue

[hearty dew]

With that error UI, you have to continue the execution for the error to print in the log or the 'error' window. It's kind of annoying

[hollow current]

I realised I had entered the Mod ID incorrectly (it was with space in mod.info, while in the code there was no space), but that apparently wasn't the issue either

https://pastebin.com/M1a8nLvw

this is the error

[hearty dew]

f = ArendamethUtils.readModFile("miscpatches", "mod.info")
ArendamethUtils.inspect(f)

Typing that in the console prints out the mod.info for my 'miscpatches' mod

[hollow current]

welll the mod works when you're in the customization window of the character soo not really any console to use