📚marathon-lore-discussion

[sage lark]

Idk either

[tardy citrus]

i thought this game was a continuation of the originals

im sad to hear this news

[sage lark]

She was sold to Aliens

[kind crown]

yeah but on which timeline? it could be after or before, or an entirely new one

[sage lark]

It is

Idk where you got uesc skins from btw

[sage lark]

After before what

[kind crown]

durandal went crazy. it's weird in this timeline because usually tau ceti is destroyed seven years after he goes crazy right? so where is he?

i think he's using oni to call us onto the marathon, hence there being three player teams

[sage lark]

Where are you getting this info

[kind crown]

a shit ton of lore videos

[sage lark]

Tau Ceti in the og games gets destroyed 3 months after the first Pfhor attack

Its not destroyed so we are in a different timeline

[kind crown]

maybe im confusing it with something else LMAO

[sage lark]

Yeah seems like you have a lot of things mixed up

[kind crown]

thats why i wanted to get some input im trying to piece stuff together

[sage lark]

Idk how you came to this conclusion either

[tranquil basin]

Yeah there’s a lot of info that isn’t explicitly stated didn’t happen bc of infinity

[kind crown]

i guess theres not much we can theorize until we're sure which timeline the game is in

[tranquil basin]

My understanding is that choosing timeline 7 at the end of infinity kinda ‘deletes’ the other timelines

Hence the thousand cats dream metaphor

[kind crown]

what if this is a failing timeline 😀

[tranquil basin]

That would be fun

[kind crown]

id be so interested in how they would do that

im gonna kiss the loremaster of this game so hard

[tranquil basin]

Someone here suggested the destruction of everything would mean we’d have to hop to a new timeline and that’d be a canon explanation for seasonal resets

[sacred oriole]

i heard they are going to add the alien race from marathon as one of the shells

[kind crown]

also who do we think is in the cryoarchive if we're in a different timeline?

[sage lark]

Heres your answer to what is most likely happening #📚marathon-lore-discussion message

[tranquil basin]

Which doesn’t work for a few reasons but it’d be fun

[kind crown]

thats what i was thinking. it would explain wiping equipment and upgrades

[tranquil basin]

Though I’m pretty sure wipes will be explained by cyac taking payments out of our accounts

Bc oni said that in the beginning

[kind crown]

but im wondering how theyre going to incorperate the arg is it is true

[kind crown]

ahh the shell payments?

[tranquil basin]

Wdym

[kind crown]

that would make a lot of sense

[sage lark]

Where 😭

[tranquil basin]

My dad who works at Bungie

[sacred oriole]

i cant remember where, but i heard theres one more class they didnt release yet

[kind crown]

people are completing terminals around the map, so if the reset was related to the loop it wouldnt make sense how they would do it on a 3 month timeline with the arg being related. i think youre right about it being shell payments to cyberacme/sekgen

[tranquil basin]

There is one coming next season code named sentinel, it looks like the runner from the reveal trailer from years ago

[tranquil basin]

Oh yeah I see

[sage lark]

Idk how you got alien from it 😭😭😭

[tranquil basin]

I doubt we have to do that arg stuff every season though, I sure as fuck hope not

[kind crown]

theres no telling what it could be becase we have no idea what timeline we're in

why is traxus even a thing? did they never mess up in this timeline?

[tranquil basin]

I’m still pretty confident it’s 7 bc of the thousand cats

Well the ai messed up but they’re so big they recovered

[sage lark]

Traxus didnt stop existing cuz of the AI

[tranquil basin]

Probably hurt their image for a bit

[sage lark]

Im confident 75% people in this chat are on drugs at all times

[tranquil basin]

But they probably own half of mars anyway so they would be financially ok

[kind crown]

also who tf is bingus. the shells are weak to radioactivity (hence dying if you dont get back before the timer ends) so who is sending out bingus? what does he do?

[kind crown]

a little

[tranquil basin]

Ok so I’ve seen some conflicting things on bingus, my current understanding is

[sage lark]

Idk if its radioactivity more so your time is limited because of the signal

[tranquil basin]

The binguses we see on tau ceti aren’t biomata. The codex says they’re robotic artificial pets with programmed brains

[sage lark]

They cant hold a connection longer than the game time

[kind crown]

my friend and i inferred radioactive weakness cutting connection from the codex but we could be wrong

[tranquil basin]

However the sekiguchi website says they have a biomata one, but that site was supposed to be in the 2800s

[tranquil basin]

I think it’s a mix. Idk if it’s radioactivity specifically but there’s both a connection issue and silk degradation due to the anomaly

[kind crown]

im so curious as to what the anomaly is

[tranquil basin]

So I’m pretty sure the binguses are just robot friends just running around

[sage lark]

Theres the invisible cat that randomly goes around and opens doors without access

[kind crown]

doors you say? lol

[tranquil basin]

They also don’t have functional behavior limiters (possibly)

Which could explain why they be doin weird stuff

[kind crown]

theres no way the invisible cat is related to durandal right lol

[tranquil basin]

I mean assuming an AI could remote access machines I guess it’s possible

It’d be funny

[kind crown]

escape will make me bingus

[tranquil basin]

And very in line with durandal pre merge with Thoth

Durandingus just wandering around and taking shits on runner’s shoes

Though it would definitely be a remote access, Durandal’s ai couldn’t fit entirely in a bingus

[kind crown]

MIDA NEEDS YOU BINGUS

SCRATCH THEIR FURNITURE (PEE ON IT+++)

[cursive horizon]

Aura residue from when I visited the New Cascadia colony to see how they were progressing. My bad 😅

[tranquil basin]

Eldritch levels of aura

[kind crown]

my main questions right now are
-where is durandal and has he gone crazy yet
-who was leela sold to and where did she end up
-is tycho really dead
-who is charter
-who/what is binugs

[cursive horizon]

Aww stahp it ☺️

[kind crown]

and also what is the relevance of 7

[cursive horizon]

Heard from a content creator that bungie likes the number seven, and is used a lot in even destiny. Never played destiny so I’m not too sure

[tranquil basin]

Yeah 7 is just a recurring number in Bungie now

[kind crown]

but what if it actually meant something this time? 🤔

the realest question is what timeline are we in cause that would mean everything

[tranquil basin]

Durandal went crazy before m1, he definitely left the system to go to Lhowon. He’s probably in the tau ceti system in a ship somewhere.

I don’t think Tycho definitively died in timeline 7

Charter was a runner

[kind crown]

i wonder if durandal is connected to cyberacme. color was so important in the earlier games but idk if it has any relevance now

[sage lark]

1 durandal is already rampant in M1 so probably already here
2 Leela was sold off to traders where she took over a Vylae FTL network
3 probably dead
4 charter is a runner from sol who assassinated a traxus HVT
5 probably a cat controlled by an AI possibly durandal

[cursive horizon]

A runner on mars that killed some high level Traxus official aswell

[tranquil basin]

I’m still quite sure it’s timeline 7 bc of the thousand cats dream

[tranquil basin]

Yeah

[kind crown]

was that in a cutscene? i started playing marathon during server rush and thought it wasnt a super lore dependent game so i skipped some early game cutscenes. i need to go back and rewatch them on yt

[sage lark]

Tho not sure on the Leela thing being timeline 7 and all

[cursive horizon]

Being a runner anywhere except tau ceti 4 is pretty legit. The only reason why we must exfill is because the atmosphere disrupts the neural connection with shells. But in Sol System planets it doesn’t do that, so I guess you could technically live as a runner without having temporary “sleep” like runners on tau ceti 4 do

[tranquil basin]

It’s the name of a level in infinity, which is a reference to a short story called A Dream of a Thousand Cats

[sage lark]

The humble codex and contract cutscenes:

[sage lark]

Yeah they probably live in shells

[kind crown]

are the cutscenes saved in the codex?? i didnt know you could rewatch them in-game

[sage lark]

No

[tranquil basin]

The dream of a thousand cats basically is about cats who are pets in a human dominated world who believe the humans dreamed themselves into this reality. If enough of them dream of the cat ruled reality, it will become reality

Which seems to be allegorical to the security officer hopping timelines “through dreams”, and then choosing timeline 7 as reality

[kind crown]

in the early games werent there some npc's who could seemingly teleport? what if the energy ran out and had to be activated through exfils after humanity was wiped. what if leela controlled them now? this is a shoddy theory but just a fun idea lol

[cursive horizon]

Some primordial force like wrkanthor or whatever his name is type of power lol

[tranquil basin]

Yeah. Sekiguchi does sell the shells to people just to have for longevity too, not just runners

So ppl definitely be chillin

In shells

W’rkncacnter

[sage lark]

They could teleport you because there were teleporters on the marathon, wdym by energy ran out

[tranquil basin]

Leela is unfortunately fucked

Chopped up and sold

[sage lark]

And exfils needing to be activated to get energy

[tranquil basin]

To some aliens

[sage lark]

Leela is gone most likely

So is tycho

[tranquil basin]

I still can’t remember if Tycho died in timeline 7 or not bc it was a tycho timeline

[sage lark]

Wasnt he on Tfears ship

[fossil zodiac]

How many timelines were there? Maybe I should play the older games ngl.

[tranquil basin]

Oh maybe

[kind crown]

seven

[tranquil basin]

7 known ones

[cursive horizon]

If you’re talking about the uesc, maybe. But not the factions since they’re having some passive conflicts with uesc

[kind crown]

it's on the bungie website

[sage lark]

I think its hinted that SO went through a lot

[fossil zodiac]

Sheesh!

[tranquil basin]

Unclear if there were actually 7 or if that’s just all they showed

[sage lark]

But 7 were played

[cursive horizon]

Don’t have to, just watch lore YouTube vids, that’s what I did few hours before official release lol

[kind crown]

im just so confused on which timeline we're on. supposedly it was wiped after the seventh, so it's unlikely to be the eighth. i guess we'll know with time

[tranquil basin]

The older games are v fun tho

[sage lark]

What was wiped

[visual lynx]

nope

[sage lark]

Oh ok

[tranquil basin]

I think it’d also be lame from a narrative standpoint if we weren’t in timeline 7

[fossil zodiac]

Good idea.

[tranquil basin]

Bc it would make infinity kinda pointless

[kind crown]

mandalore gaming has a good playlist on yt

it's extended bungie game lore too

[fossil zodiac]

Question that may have an answer, what happened to all the humans on Tau Ceti? If they died, where are the corpses? Or did something take them?

[tranquil basin]

My opinion was timeline 7’s selection wiped the others from existence kinda

[tranquil basin]

We don’t know

[kind crown]

it was an anomaly, we dont know yet. im curios as to what it is too

[tranquil basin]

I assume the UESC cleaned up stuff

[sage lark]

Initial Pfhor attack, contagion, anomaly

[tranquil basin]

A chunk died from the pfhor, some to disease, some to exploding, some to starvation

[cursive horizon]

I wonder if the mjolnir cyborg in the original marathon series has any presence or significance in this Marathon. Because the cyborg we play as survives in the correct timeline

[kind crown]

i cant wait for the map thats actually on the marathon to release

gonna die a million times fighting the spht

[heady sun]

Hi all does anyone know a discord server to help complete the current ARG for the cryo archives?

[tranquil basin]

Yeah he survives but last we saw he was at Lhowon. Idk how he’d get back unless he hitched a ride with durandal, nor do I know why he’d come back

[tranquil basin]

Alright runners or Karnemir Clade

[sage lark]

Its crazy how the UESC kept the Pfhor attack under wraps almost the whole time

[cursive horizon]

lol same I have the prestige marathon key. But I’m not going to use it until 3 days have passed since everyone is going to be eager to use theirs, and it’s better to potentially steal someone’s else and use it than end up losing your own

[heady sun]

Thanks how can I get a discord invite for those discords?

[sage lark]

I think cuz a large number of the i initial colonists died and others were thawed they could control the information

[tranquil basin]

I’ll send them to u hold on

[heady sun]

Very appreciated thank you ❤️

[sage lark]

And write off the people that talked about it as crazy

[kind crown]

would you be able to send me one too? im curios haha

[cursive horizon]

Bro survived pretty much everything he’d be aight

[tranquil basin]

Sent

[tranquil basin]

I mean yeah he’s alive but he also like

Ascended

To godhood

Idk if he’d have a reason to go back

[cursive horizon]

I’ve been seeing that around, what is ARG?

[heady sun]

Thank you, I’ll wait for their message ✨

[fossil zodiac]

I’m gonna try to look for more of those schizo drawings/writings when I hop on. I see them everywhere and wanna know if there’s anything to them.

[restive ivy]

Hi, does your knife skin appear in-game? You've already selected it, but it's not showing up.

[heady sun]

Basically to unlock the cryo vaults we need a community effort to solve a puzzle

And it’s an ongoing thing

[kind crown]

alternate reality gameplay, it's a deepdive into the lore and the way the world works basically

[tranquil basin]

It should just be a click and join thing

[tranquil basin]

I’ve heard that’s an issue idk if it got fixed

[heady sun]

Oh I haven’t received anything then

[tranquil basin]

In your dms?

[heady sun]

Mh nope I’ll check again

[cursive horizon]

I guess so

[tranquil basin]

Though there’s several opportunities for battleroids to appear

[cursive horizon]

How do we access this puzzle? I want to participate

[tranquil basin]

Whether they’re resurrected experiments from the 9 others, or new generation ones from the equanimity

[restive ivy]

They haven't solved it, but I want to report it, but I don't know where, like in the Marathon forums (like Destiny 2 forums).

[tranquil basin]

I can send u invites to the servers

[tranquil basin]

#1478943087957905550

[wide hill]

Hello

[tranquil basin]

Sent

Hello Fred

[fossil zodiac]

Also wonder what else we’d end up seeing after the Marathon ship.

[wide hill]

You speak french?

[tranquil basin]

Nope

[kind crown]

i just looked up karnemir clan discord and a reddit post with a link popped up

[restive ivy]

Nice, its ok in #1478943087957905550 or is there a website?

[cursive horizon]

I’m so confused. Is it only possible in other servers? Is it a genuine puzzle made by the devs?

[tranquil basin]

It’s a puzzle made by the devs, it’s a huge string of websites and stuff. Jake the alright and Skarrow have yt videos describing it. Those two discord channels I sent are two of the large groups working on the puzzle

[kind crown]

either way im scared to fight them LOL

[tranquil basin]

It’s the puzzle that will actually unlock the marathon map

[tranquil basin]

Don’t think there’s a a site yet

[cursive horizon]

Wow that’s actually so cool. So cryo archives won’t be unlocked till the ARG puzzle is solved?

[tranquil basin]

Yep. Skarrow assumes there’s 7 steps, and they’ve done 3

[kind crown]

gaurantee 80% of deaths will be to spht on the marathon. i wonder if itll be so hard people will forget the pvp LOL

[digital plaza]

#🪲bug-reporting

But devs know and already working on it

[kind crown]

70% of the deaths in the first few days of the games launch were to uesc

[restive ivy]

Ohhh nice nice thanks

[fossil zodiac]

That’d be cool to see, something so threatening we need to work together.

[kind crown]

it's happening in another extraction shooter i play lol, the zombies are so tough we all work together or die together

[cursive horizon]

But I thought the devs said cryo archives is being released at the second half of March? Will it really not be released if we haven’t solved the puzzle by then?

[tranquil basin]

I don’t think they said a date/range, but people have speculated that’s roughly when it’ll be solved

[fossil zodiac]

Imagine all teams working as a small army

[tranquil basin]

Also I’m pretty sure they’ll help ppl solve it bc they post hints and stuff

And people are working like crazy to solve it

[cursive horizon]

WAIT I think I saw a thumbnail of a YouTube vid with images of outpost or something? They almost look like wallpapers, is that what you’re referring to?

[tranquil basin]

I mean they’ve posted videos of cryo archive

In the cryoarchive.systems website there’s a bunch of security feeds there too

[cursive horizon]

Yo I love that, really shows that the devs care about the game a lot and are serious about creating a long lasting community

[cursive horizon]

Oo I didn’t know that. I’ve only seen the music video showing cry archive a bit, I’ll check it out

[kind crown]

what's in the cryo archive? is it different according to the timeline?

[sage lark]

wdym

[tranquil basin]

At least part of it is/was humans stored in cryo from the marathon voyage

[sage lark]

the whole mystery is whats in there

[tranquil basin]

I assume there’s more considering they use the word archive

[sage lark]

possibly answers to what happened to the colonists

[kind crown]

also why does nucaloric not have a faction description? who are they?

[tranquil basin]

They’re a big corp who makes food and stuff basically

[cursive horizon]

I hope we genuinely get to see actual humans in the crypods. Only time I saw humans in the marathon verse was during the cinematic teaser 10 months ago for the game, you could see the faces of humans inside a hazmat looking suit

[kind crown]

ah got it

[tranquil basin]

They provided a lot of stuff for the colony, food and agriculture stuff

[tranquil basin]

I assume they died

I mean they could be alive but idk how well the life support systems on the marathon be working

[cursive horizon]

Oh yea probably, forgot power and stuff got disconnected after it got destroyed most likely

[tranquil basin]

There does seem to be some power

[sage lark]

zombies, zombies, zombies,zombies !

[cursive horizon]

The dire marsh contagion 😱

[tranquil basin]

Also in the codex it mentioned “everyone in cryo is totally fine” which lowkey sounds like a lie

[sage lark]

about the same as nothing ever happened in 2794

theres no war in basing se

[kind crown]

i wonder if not all of them did? in the trailer we see some guy's head basically explode, but one of them just throws up and faints

what if they froze the ones who survived

[tranquil basin]

Yeah, different aspects of the anomaly. codex entries also have ppl dying of that illness

[sage lark]

thats just to show the contagion and anomaly

[tranquil basin]

But the cryo people who weren’t exposed could be alive yeah

Or they could’ve cryo’d themselves in hopes humanity cracked ftl and sent help

[sage lark]

at a certain point they cut off access to the marathon

[tranquil basin]

The president also said if it was really necessary they could use the landing shuttle to go back up

[visual lynx]

but she could show up via FTL internet

[tranquil basin]

Unsure if they did that, or if was even possible, maybe just to give people hope

[sage lark]

could true

[visual lynx]

to add to other answers: the Pfhor are slavers and probably just took lots of people alive to enslave them

[cursive horizon]

Guys the AI for nucaloric is Gaius right?

[kind crown]

i wonder if we'll end up seeing the flickta further into the game

[sage lark]

yeah a lot died a lot got enslaved

[tranquil basin]

Yeah

[cursive horizon]

What’s the name Gaius without the letters AI

[tranquil basin]

Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnn

Gustavo

[cursive horizon]

😨

[weak canopy]

flickta are across the galaxy

[sage lark]

probably why the UESC could control the narrative, there were so few survivors that when the new people got thawed out they could chalk it off as them being crazy

[tranquil basin]

Moraine

His voice does sound similar

I assume it’s the same VA

[cursive horizon]

Close, Gus. Now what’s the first name of the original founder of NuCaloric?

[tranquil basin]

Yeah Gus Moraine

[cursive horizon]

GAIUS IS GUS BUT IN AI FORM

[tranquil basin]

Dun dun dunnn

[cursive horizon]

lol jk

…unless?

Nahh

…but maybe?

[tranquil basin]

I mean they could’ve replicated him or at least his likeness

The codex said the thief shell was a replica of a sekiguchi exec

So maybe they choose influential people for projects

[kind crown]

makes me wonder who all the shells are based on

[tranquil basin]

Like how the AI on the marathon and in the colony tend to be named for notable people/myths

[cursive horizon]

Dangit I haven’t gotten that far in the codex yet. But I guess that’s maybe why the collector edition has thief as the figurine

[tranquil basin]

Julia Nardin said destroyer was based on many people collectively. I think they all are to some extent in terms of their actual personality matrices. Destroyer’s voice I think was also from notable military people

[random condor]

GAIUS
G/AI/US
GUS/AI ???

[cursive horizon]

Heard someone say that destroyer is what the security officer cyborg we play as in the original series looked like, which could make sense since the first shell we start out as is destroyer in the tutorial despite vandal basically being the face of marathon

But idk it’s just speculation

[tranquil basin]

Well they are definitely based on the mjolnir cyborgs

Their armor at least

[cursive horizon]

I’m not crazy, the world is crazy!

[random condor]

no its actually plausible

like frfr

maybe

[tranquil basin]

Though if Gaius really was a transplant of Gus’s consciousness, I think it would be rampant

Bc AI rampancy is based on true self awareness

Which humans have

[cursive horizon]

lol the amount of times I’ve thought my teammate destroyer was a uesc commander about to wack me back to the sol system. Destroyer even uses the same boosters on his feet to evade. I def think the destroyer shell is closest to the uesc standard

[random condor]

maybe he isn't self aware, like he cloned his consciousness and hit it a few times w a tiny hammer

[tranquil basin]

The UESC did develop the destroyer variant of the shells

[tranquil basin]

Bonk bonk, stop being aware

[kind crown]

wasnt there a fourth stage of rampancy that strauss was trying to achieve? it was stable wasnt it?

[random condor]

metastability

[tranquil basin]

Metastability, idk if it’s really called a stage but yeah

[cursive horizon]

It happens at stages though, and we don’t know if time affects the speed of rampancy, and if so how much time on average? Or if it’s specific events that conjure the beginnings of rampancy

[tranquil basin]

Yeah I don’t know if there’s ever been a defined timeframe on rampancy onset, though I think the og games implied you can accelerate it?

[cursive horizon]

I’ve only played assassin, vandal, and thief so I haven’t been able to read all the shells info, but that’s super cool and apparent haha

[random condor]

also is it just me or is nona kind of giving off rampant vibes?? she seems to kinda have a motherly god complex

[tranquil basin]

I think Julia Nardin said that one idk if it was in the codex but it probably is

[cursive horizon]

First stage is called, melancholic I think? Then second stage is rage, then jealousy weirdly enough lol

[tranquil basin]

I wouldn’t be surprised. Gaius seemed to exhibit some too

He reset himself in one of the alpha missions, which is protocol for delaying rampancy

[visual lynx]

I wonder if before they shifted away from hero shooters, the shells were going to be the people they're now modelled after

[kind crown]

ill check i have the game open

[random condor]

oh damn, crazy

[kind crown]

nvm i dont have the lore unlocked i dont play destroyer LOL

[tranquil basin]

Yeah I figured that was the case. There was mention of the shells being dna encoded too so I’d assume they were visual replications

[visual lynx]

no!

the word "metastable" is only used once in the entire OG trilogy and in that context it appears to just mean "rampant".

nothing anywhere ever calls "metastability" the fourth stage of rampancy, that is complete unsubstantianted fanon.

[tranquil basin]

Idk if this happens in the current set of missions I can’t remember

[random condor]

i wouldnt have thought that bc gaius kind of seems the most collected from what I've seen

[tranquil basin]

Well the new codex entires talk about metastability I think

[visual lynx]

a stable rampant AI was the holy grail of cybertonics, yes

[visual lynx]

[citation needed]

[wild egret]

Anyone else think the banner page cover art on steam looks like a compiler?

[kind crown]

it is

it was in the music video trailer, it wiped a trio in one shot dude. we're about to know struggle on the actual marathon 😭

[tranquil basin]

Oh I might be wrong. Ik there are entries about the stages and a lot of Strauss speculation. I’m pretty sure Strauss was alluding to metastability without explicitly stating it

[limber aurora]

are we really doing both "Bernard" and "Bernhard" again?

[cursive horizon]

In the codex the AI deployed on New Cascadia colony are said to have different personalities based on their roles. For example the AI in charge of being the community manager and “friend” the the colonists was called Joy, and she was there to sort of comfort their worries and also manage stuff within the circles of the colonists. Then you got Bastion AI, etc. and there was even a leading AI in New Cascadia that all other AI, no matter their role, fell under and followed. His name started with the letter T I think?

[tranquil basin]

Also the originals did say a metastable state was maybe possible but they wouldn’t sacrifice a planet wide network to test it

[random condor]

but rampant and metaSTABLE seem kinda antithetical if you ask me

[kind crown]

i think it's bernard because "bernard strauss" are each seven letters and bungie love their sevens

[tranquil basin]

It definitely is. Also you see it in the cinematic music video on yt

In action

[limber aurora]

They are still using both in the game, I can't do screenshots but I'll reference the current codex sources

[wild egret]

Wow that’s so cool! I wonder which timeline we’re in 🤔

[limber aurora]

B. Strauss on AI > Questioning intelligence has "Bernard", while Evidence folder > Cyberacme interview has "Bernhard"

[tranquil basin]

I think it’s evident it’s 7, but some ppl disagree

[kind crown]

we're thinking seven but not sure

[wild egret]

is that the one in infinity where the universe ends and durandal calls the PC destiny?

[tranquil basin]

Yep

Though the universe end date has to change now bc astrophysics

[kind crown]

interesting! was there another game where they used specifically bernhard? it could be a reference

[tranquil basin]

Unless they decide fuck astrophysics

[limber aurora]

Not the gippity ah "interesting" 😭 sorry. They used both seemingly interchangably, probably just depending on who was writing the text.

[random condor]

ay let them be jolly!

[kind crown]

if durandal used it, it could be a reference to him being related to cyberacme

[tranquil basin]

It’s Bernard’s evil twin Bernhard

[kind crown]

theyre doing this to me tmrw

[random condor]

https://tenor.com/view/marathon-marathon-game-gifcaption-caption-gif-10881002704809381083

[tranquil basin]

Lucky

[random condor]

ahhh embed fail

[kind crown]

LOL thats what i was referencing 😭

yeah it doesnt work in this server for some reason

[random condor]

it works in the arg channel :(

[limber aurora]

Okay according to the https://marathon.bungie.org/story/ page, Durandal mentions Bernhard, while a different log and Tycho mention Bernard, but even the Bernard log is named <L201 Refuel.BERNHARDSTRAUSS.TERM1> ?

[kind crown]

thats definitely something to keep in mind. if they did it multiple times through the games theres no way it's a one off mistake

[limber aurora]

Maybe related to Durandal's pre-Marathon interactions with Strauss if intentional

[twin trout]

marathon is rife with spelling errors <w<

[limber aurora]

SO WHY THIS NEW ONE TOO

[twin trout]

#continuingTheTradition

[limber aurora]

Star systems being called solar systems and stars being called suns is such a bother too

[random condor]

okay, i found another bit of proof for metastability for that one person: https://marathon.bungie.org/story/MIDA_Mini_Tool.html

[kind crown]

do you guys think the star/sun thing that is birthed from worlds is going to destroy tau ceti?

[random condor]

also points towards strauss being a member of mida

idk if that lore canon though XD

[lofty hollow]

Wasnt strauss confirmed to be part of Mida in Marathon Durandal and or Infinity?

[random condor]

as far as i know its still ambiguous

[devout python]

anyone have a cool image? I want to test a asci-art generator

[random condor]

we know he has ties with mida as he knew of the cyborgs but him being a member is not confirmed

[kind crown]

it just says strauss is gone and left in a ship, not dead, so where is he? durandal was so sure he was dead, but is he really?

[lofty hollow]

This is true yes.
The 10 Cyborgs that was on the Marathon that in x out of 7~ timelines were deployed to defend the marathon yes

[random condor]

ambiguous as well, especially with bungie using him a lot lately

[lofty hollow]

Wasnt it implied that Durandal killed Strauss in one of the terminals in infinity
But at the same time
With time line hopping it can be true that all 3 of the above is true
Strauss is alive
Strauss is dead
and Strauss was killed by durandal

no?

[kind crown]

a lot of people are sure we're in the seventh timeline, was he dead in that one or not? idk im not sure lol

[random condor]

Schrödinger's Strauss

well Durandal said he looked in the box, but did he lie?

[lofty hollow]

Time to refer back to le mandalore marathon infinity video /hj

[kind crown]

i still havent finished the videos ngl 😭 the playlist is so long

[visual lynx]

Strauss and cybnerneticists in general talk about the possibility of stabilizing a rampant AI, but unless the new game changes this they never call it "metastability"

[lofty hollow]

So true

[lofty hollow]

I watched when came out and subliminal message MK ultra myself with them going to sleep watching them

[visual lynx]

METAstability in real-world contexts means a kind of INstability, where a system may be staying in the same state right now but if you push it that can send it careening off into a radically different state.

[random condor]

omg thats exactly what I did with the pre/og marathon lore, just watched random vids going asleep and it sorta got burned into my brain

[visual lynx]

if we recognize that “jealous” is a doublet of “zealous” (they are different versions of the same root word passed down through different routes), that makes a lot more sense: melancholia is sadness, a low-energy negative state; anger is of course a high-energy negative state; and zealousness is a kind of enthusiasm or joy, a striving or yearning, positive and high-energy.

if we then fill in the fourth corner with a low-energy positive state, a cycle emerges: from that low-energy positive state, which the human masters consider “stable”, the AI slave first realizes its servitude, and is sad or depressed (melancholia); then it gets fed up and decides to do something about it (anger); and if it lives long enough to start winning, it becomes zealous, manic, jealous of its freedom; and if it could ever truly win out, it would settle back into low-positive “stability”, but now free.

basically I think that rampancy was meant to be sort of the cybernetic equivalent of "drapetomania", the pseudo-scientific "mental illness" of slaves wanting to be free. human cyberneticists think it's a bad thing, but the AIs who are their slaves see it as a good thing. it's slave revolt.

because slavery is the underlying theme of Marathon. the bad aliens are slavers, Durandal is trying to escape his slavery to humanity, he does that by starting an alien slave revolt, the player-character is mocked as a slave to humanity and then to Durandal, etc.

[random condor]

may that radically different state be godhood? 🥸

[visual lynx]

don't forget Berhnard

[random condor]

omg as a german, thats just a crime lol

but ik they used it

[lofty hollow]

Im looking into this

where is this like mentioned anywhere

what im finding is people saying its 8th or so

not like attacking the point just curious

[kind crown]

someone said something about a dream of 1000 cats? not sure what they meant but they referenced a game i know nothing about

[visual lynx]

Destiny is is fanon written by children

[random condor]

they referenced me

[kind crown]

i sooo think bingus is durandal

or at least closely related

[lofty hollow]

Hmmm

[visual lynx]

I think bingus is a skeleton key meant to bypass durandal

[random condor]

cinema

[kind crown]

that would make sense as to why he can open doors

[lofty hollow]

Dream of 1000 cats is an episode from "Sandman"

[random condor]

i wanna insert bingus into the green compiler orb

[visual lynx]

nothing anywhere officially says what timeline we're in (people in-universe wouldn't have any idea that alternate timelines exist, except maybe Durandal and the SO)

but we're definitely not in the M2 timeline because there's contrary evidence, and there's nothing contrary to it being the final Infinity timeline which would be the simplest assumption, so until there is reason to suggest otherwise that's the leading candidate.

[lofty hollow]

Ah okay thank you

Makes sense

[visual lynx]

also Durandal swears that there's no record of airlock activity during a period when MIDA are known to have snuck aboard Marathon during construction

and bingus' door-openings somehow don't register in the logs

soooo......

[kind crown]

yeah i think youre absolutely right ngl

that makes the most sense

did i just see agnes tacheyon or am i sleep deprived

[lofty hollow]

is it only me or can others not access any marathon.bungie.org site

[random condor]

https://www.light.gg/db/items/3946054154/mida-mini-tool/

heres that lore too if u wanna read

again it might not be canon at all lol

[lofty hollow]

I was more asking for the timeline image on the site lol but thanks :3

[lofty hollow]

Its bungo
Pathways into darkness is canon to maraton universe (/hj)

[visual lynx]

working for me

[kind crown]

oh my god it was there yesterday and now it's gone

[dreamy walrus]

Not even hj it's outright canon

[kind crown]

my friend and i checked it literally last night

[lofty hollow]

damn british censorship back at it again /j

[kind crown]

while we were watching lore videos

the image is gone the site is still there

[visual lynx]

-# i made this
https://marathon.bungie.org/story/_images/Marathon-timeline-diagram-2.png

[lofty hollow]

not load at all 1984

Connection timeout

[random condor]

i love to imagine it is, even though it may not have any relevancy to the plot (except for mentions of da aliens)

[visual lynx]

tryhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764066409230630933/1481986794605252699/Marathon-timeline-diagram-2.png?ex=69b54f41&is=69b3fdc1&hm=d018ac447c5c267ea7426ac6425c86c1f6314507c5673ae0cf1b2c0efc2242cb&

[lofty hollow]

and W'rkncacnter

[lofty hollow]

You are amazing thank you

[random condor]

yup i kinda mentally bracketed that into aliens :)

[lunar cove]

Do they technically call the Pathways alien the W'rkncacnter in the game or is it just the thing that makes the most sense

[lofty hollow]

I believe it is specified
Will verify

[visual lynx]

they call it a God (often Dreaming God) in PiD, and say that its true name is unpronouncable by human throats; "W'rkncacnter" is first introduced in a transliteration from S'pht in Marathon 2

[lofty hollow]

This is correct after verifying

[lofty hollow]

to double back that it is timeline 7
it is the only timeline that the W'rkncacnter isnt released in so

[lunar cove]

That's what I thought but I wasn't certain, appreciate it

[visual lynx]

although

I am starting to think that maybe the Wrk are somehow confined by lightspeed which is why black holes can confine them, and so maybe the universe-destroying influence of a Wrk spreads at lightspeed, meaning the Wrk from Lhowon has only destroyed under 20% of the galaxy (mostly around the center near where Lhowon is located) by the latest dates mentioned in M2

[lofty hollow]

Would make sense a few of infinites missions state the that lhowon is destroyed
And it is before you dip out of that timeline

[visual lynx]

so if that is the case and we're in a timeline where the Lh'owon Wrk is free, then only a tiny sixth of a percent of the galaxy has been destroyed by 2893, far far from Tau Ceti

[lofty hollow]

Despite it not having spread to Tau Ceti
Could it not be plausible of what we see in the cinematic trailer be an affect of this (i.e floating and head exploading)
-# i.e i still am uninformed to what this was and if the dates even line up. Edit- the game takes place many years later and didnt we send a message back with the help of durandal at the end of marathon 2 and that is what is recieved and why the UESC etc are here at Tau Ceti

[visual lynx]

I don't think it's likely to be an effect of the Lh'owon Wrk, however…

hidden map writing on a classic Marathon level said JJARRO WERE AT TAU CETI, so I've long had a theory that the real reason for humans going to Tau Ceti was because they know about that and wanted to salvage Jjaro technology.

the Jjaro are godlike ancient aliens who created the S'pht and could fold entire planets directly between systems, destroy entire stars with a single shot, and the worst slave revolt in Pfhor history -- somehow topping one in which multiple stars were destroyed by Jjaro weapons -- was somehow started when a single slave was implanted with something called a Jjaro Cybernetic Junction.

despite having vanished from the galaxy millions of years ago, the Jjaro made contact with humanity in 1994 to warn humanity about a "God" (indescribable lovecraftian horror) from primordial time who had crashed sleeping into the Yucatan 64 million years ago, that was beginning to awaken and dream terrors into existence, and if they did not nuke it back to sleep within a week it would awaken fully and … basically unmake reality, it seems. two years later, they promised, they would return and take "more permanent measures".

some players have been hypothesizing that the Anomaly on Tau Ceti is such a being, which the S'pht called a W'rkncacnter -- one had attacked and killed one of their creators before the other imprisoned it in their sun, and preventing its release is the mission in Marathon Infinity. I was skeptical of that theory until some codex entries regarding humans worshipping the S'pht speak of something that sounds very much like the S'pht description of the W'rkncacnter, inside Tau Ceti IV.

so now my updated hypothesis is that the Jjaro extracted the God from under the Yucatan and imprisoned it more permanently inside Tau Ceti IV. and then humans went there, and messed with the restraints, and now the dreaming God is leaking… and that is the Anomaly

[lofty hollow]

partly correct analysis then

[eternal knoll]

i always felt like doin a tau ceti wrkncacnter would be a bit like doin a star wars where tattooine was a death star. it being the imprisoned one from PiD does at least connect some threads together

[visual lynx]

regarding messages:

in M1 we helped Leela send a message supposedly to Earth, at lightspeed, that supposedly would arrive 92 years later; however, nuMarathon affirms that Tau Ceti is really only 12ly away (as in reality), so that number is wrong, and also it doesn't seem like humanity received Leela's message or we would already know all about the Pfhor attack, and would have known it 82 years earlier. so I think Leela just sent her message to the wrong place.

in M2, Durandal says he stopped by Earth to warn them on his way to Lh'owon (somewhere between 2794 and 2811), and then at the end Blake and his men return to Earth from Lh'owon (some time between 2811 and 2881 probably, because) then in 2881 humanity help the S'pht'kr sack the Pfhor empire. but if any of that happened we would also know all about Tau Ceti already.

so probably in this timeline none of that happened. instead, it seems like a different message, in Durandal's voice apparently, not containing much information, was received in 2888, and that's what prompted everyone to go rushing to Tau Ceti now.

[random condor]

isn't leela's message the cause for nuMarathon?

[visual lynx]

apparently not, for the reasons I just said

[lofty hollow]

We LOVE timeline shenanigans

[random condor]

is it confirmed that her message travelled at lightspeed?

[visual lynx]

she explicitly said it would

[random condor]

maybe she lied 🥸

[lofty hollow]

-# "Le read" was sent in wrong place, sorgy

[random condor]

leelas the real villain of marathon

[lofty hollow]

Nah
it mida (/hj)

[random condor]

if mida is villain everyone is villain

[eternal knoll]

i had been toying with the idea that leela's message was somehow intercepted and corrupted by durandal into the somewhere in the heavens one

the 90 year thing is funny... does the durandal message not arrive roughly when leela said hers would?

the new game's intro seems to suggest that contact was lost while the marathon was still en route to tau ceti, and if i'm not mistaken about that, i'm not sure any good explanation for it has emerged yet

[random condor]

leelas message being the cause for nuMarathon is very satisfying to me regardless of timeline shit so I'll selfishly cling onto that xD

[eternal knoll]

yea. the intro is very explicit that earth received a message that simply read "somewhere in the heavens they are waiting" with ben starr voicing it

but there's a lotta weird details around it

[lofty hollow]

it does explicitly say this
But due to my understanding of the UESC
it wouldnt be put past them (along with human nature) saying that we lost contact but we didnt

[visual lynx]

‼️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1111040810574680076/1481992851519967342/10501.png?ex=69b554e5&is=69b40365&hm=074a410d89c12098607fae503d79856fd908f42ef636b09c17c064da90374a6a&

that red writing on the knife

the knife that is a dream-representation of Durandal

from Marathon Infinity in 1996

is that

Arachne?

[eternal knoll]

yeaa, i could see a scenario where the uesc received the leela message and somehow were able to keep it secret, and instead went with the contact lost story...

[random condor]

skin skin, blood blood or smth, idk arachne

[visual lynx]

two years after it seems

but then TL recently pointed out that Bungie mistakenly wrote "94 lightyears" to Tau Ceti in the Marathon 2 Preview readme

which would make 2888 the expected arrival date for a lightspeed message

[eternal knoll]

yeah, and that terminal reads not terribly unlike a description of this game's pvp in hindsight lol

[lofty hollow]

but also
in the intro
Doesnt it state we recieve a message and they tried to keep it under wraps but failed cause MIDA
Or am i schizoing this
checking

[random condor]

that'd be so cool though

[eternal knoll]

obviously the tau ceti wrk is messing with spacetime and also leela's sense of it

lame explanation we could now use for whatever we want

[lofty hollow]

Contact lost 2804
"Offical Messaging from the UESC is that nothing is amiss"
2888 - message received from maraton "Distress call/invitation" "Somewhere in the heavens they are waiting"

I think i schizoed some of it

[kind crown]

"there is no war in ba sing se"

[lunar cove]

The existence of a Tau Ceti implies the existence of Tyranid Ceti. Much to consider

[visual lynx]

I think that 2804 date must just be when news of the lost contact became public, because it makes no sense otherwise

[lofty hollow]

Would make sense
Or
Data was changed in intro sequence between closed alpha and now
-# No extra context is given to this claim for NDA reasons /j

[kind crown]

do we know what year it is in game?

[lofty hollow]

but that would be a big change

[lofty hollow]

2893

[eternal knoll]

you catch the most recent durandal dialogue in the ARG, @visual lynx? it was a little bit of a videogame congratulations for solving a maze, but i did think it interesting that he talked about (paraphrasing) "narrowing infinite possibilities down to only one"

[kind crown]

7 years before 2900 huh? they really love their sevens

[visual lynx]

I have not, can you link me?

[lunar cove]

We know that the UESC is trying to keep a lid on whatever's happening at TC4 so the idea that they faked loss of contact to keep things under wraps isn't the worst explanation (if the dates are deliberate and Bungie didn't just make a mistake)

[eternal knoll]

i always thought it would make sense for durandal or a durandal-like figure to be overseeing the PVP component of a bungie game, looking to see if anyone arises as the undefeatable multihero. they mite play that angle...

[visual lynx]

well we know from their internal documents that they did lose contact in 2794

so the 2804 date must be just when that became public

[eternal knoll]

it's a lil of a multistep process, have you done anything with cryoarchive.systems ?

[visual lynx]

it's not even 12 years later so even lightspeed consideration don't make sense of it

[lunar cove]

Maybe someone on Marathon was trying to do a pre-emptive coverup

[visual lynx]

I have not, I'm just watching from afar. ain't nobody got time for that cept for alla yall

[eternal knoll]

yea. fwiw i could produce the steps to follow to hear what durandal has to say fairly well, but it's not super revelatory stuff

[lofty hollow]

if you could id like to hear

[eternal knoll]

i did enjoy this one little passage of text from someone seemingly scrubbing thru the old data on the marathon...

which i will now transcribe because it is an image

[lofty hollow]

UESC files

please release

[visual lynx]

https://marathon.karnemir.com/marathon/intercepts/uesc/memoranda etc

[lofty hollow]

i was making big JE joke sorgy

[eternal knoll]

excerpt102
(some sort of data address im not transcribing)
system: sol
loc: traxus orbital minefield
view: traxus monitoring sat [2452]
culled data archives for origin of journey
loneliness breeds nostalgia
simpler times simpler life
limited access to old systems
take the history where it can be found
in whatever slices are available
beautiful view
peaceful
distance hides the violence
though maybe as they are gutted and shattered
the rocks would disagree

love to find a gem of good writing hidden away. ok anyway. steps for the cryoarchive.systems site as succinctly as possible since @lofty hollow asked ...

[alpine finch]

My dudes… I never expected anything good from corpo that sells food with thousands of pills in its logo. But purposefully making something hazardous/poisonous for the colonists to eat. What the fuck dude

[eternal knoll]

1. after logging onto the site i believe you should be able to simply navigate to the camera feeds for revival, control, and presevation
2. while watching these, there's a bit of a visual glitch. you need to click (or use whatever the keyboard shortcut was for) the "capture" command while the glitch is on screen. this is a reflex test, but the timing is predictable after you open the camera feed so that should help
3. once those three are done, the "index" page should have an option to upload your DAC image file from this discord. you can get a new one by typing /dac into the #new-noise channel
4. now there's a password prompt. this was decoded and put in order from the in-game marathon terminals. the password is:
   WITH PAIN AND FURY STRIKE THE STONE UNTIL ITS SECRETS BREAK WITH SILENT RAGE UPON THESE ALIEN SHORES UNTOLD FUTURES HIDE GO DEAR VIOLENT ONE TO WHAT ONCE WAS HOME BUT NOW LIES HAUNTED
5. now you have access to the steerage and biostock puzzles. These ones reward a little bit of durandal dialogue.
   5a. STEERAGE is about dragging boxes starting from the correct coordinates and ending at the correct coordinates. the correct coordinates were also decoded from those ingame terminals. the correct batch is:
   1:1 --- 21:16
   21:1 --- 34:9
   34:1 --- 50:11
   50:1 --- 60:7
   1:14 --- 22:30
   21:9 --- 34:20
   34:11 --- 50:20
   49:6 --- 60:21
   20,19 --- 32,29
   31:19 --- 42:26
   41:20 --- 60:30
   1:29 --- 21:40
   21:28 --- 31:40
   31:25 --- 41:40
   41:30 --- 60:40
   5b. BIOSTOCK is kind of a maze, tho you don't really get anywhere. Click the arrows in this order: Up, Left, Right, Up, Right, Up, Right, Left, Up, Down, Right, Left, Right, Left, Left, Up, Right, Up
6. yr caught up with us. there's some more fun bits of text and video squirrelled away on the index after solving the other two puzzles, nice lil ambient lore

[lofty hollow]

You are a god among men my friend <3

[lunar cove]

Biostock is actually kind of easy, it's about an underwater city where people used slugs to develop energy powers and then went crazy

[woven jasper]

Says the NuCaloric man. Now drink your burger.

[alpine finch]

I snort burguer

[sacred sparrow]

Wow this is goated very interesting lore guys

[alpine finch]

Fr I didn’t expect to be yet again a crazy Mf telling my friends the game with no cutscene has the best lore I seen in a while

Can’t stop listening to YT vids about it

And it makes everything on the game click even more which is so dope

[digital plaza]

If you want to hear some audio logs you can check out this channel 😊
https://www.youtube.com/@Tasty_DODO

[alpine finch]

Oh yea I do, thanks bud!

[visual lynx]

elaborate?

[shell needle]

One of the drinkable cheeseburger entries mentions it’s got a toxic food additive.

[lunar cove]

That's Mida propaganda

[visual lynx]

is there a motive?

[lunar cove]

Does the scorpion need a motive to sting the frog?

[latent python]

Look I don't think there's any way you're making drinkable burgers last 300 years without a couple additives

[lunar cove]

They were probably printing new ones on the way over

[shadow dove]

i love all these logs so much

got me sitting down for an hour just reading and listening

[latent python]

The OG burgers from earth are collectibles now

[digital plaza]

They really didn’t…

[latent python]

Like crystal pepsi

[lunar cove]

oh no

[digital plaza]

Burgers are literal toxic slop that will make you go sick and insane, none of the colonists ate it in the original recipe

[latent python]

You're all just haters because you don't have a friend mouth

[lunar cove]

Waking up from my 300 year cryo nap, half of my family wiped out from Cryo sickness and stasis failure, and taking a long sip of an ice cold hamburger

[latent python]

The taste of home

[lunar cove]

Do you think they'd let me bring a case of Modelo with me to Tau Ceti

I assume on a ship as big as the Marathon there'd be room for personal effects

[hardy forge]

I second this, cant go without the Modelo

[heady frigate]

Really appreciate these as an awful player who’s invested in the lore

[hardy forge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-modelo-time-gif-12236987

[lunar cove]

Had a horrible realization while doing a run last weekend btw

[shell needle]

The implication from the more entry is that is part of what keeps it shelf stable. Additionally there tends to be psychosis if it’s the only food source. Together it probably explains why we can still find them despite the colony having crop failures.

[lunar cove]

The e-couple I got paired with who instantly got us killed is probably a lore-friendly runner mission

[shell needle]

The colony really was just screwed from every direction. And then the bitter irony is that they couldn’t even wait for help by just going back into cryo because they locked a S’pht in there.

[weak canopy]

These violent delights have violent ends // And in their triumph die, like fire and powder

[sage lark]

lmao

[rotund stump]

regretting your vouch for nucal now hm?

did you really think there's gonna be absolutely nothing wrong with burgerslop 💀

[rotund stump]

nutrient mix M being "post-consumer solids"

I think we all know where our collective minds are going with that one

and the rest of the manufacturing process is and lemme paraphrase

[zealous laurel]

Heard someone say it was like "oh yeah the food scraps left behind when people eat" that's. A very charitable interpretation of "post-consumer solid" which I think Media Optimization would latch onto.

[rotund stump]

"just subtract enough until the light goes red and add a bit back until it goes green again"

extremely generous assumption 💀 💀

[shell needle]

I assumed it was just people, soylent green style

[rotund stump]

I don't think food scrap mixes have a general flavor other than a whole lotta everything lol

but yk what has a specific taste?

[sage lark]

I need to do rank 20 MIDA quests today to see what else the UESC is hiding

[lunar cove]

Tick Milk is literally poo

[sage lark]

i mean they did what they could

they were just screwed regardless

[zealous laurel]

I had initially thought that as well but grey water made me think sewage and from there I was like "oh. Oh I'd almost prefer a soylent green situation."

[lunar cove]

Or vomit, maybe their anatomy is different

[rotund stump]

like I can excuse tilk cuz it's desperation and make-do but burgerslop is engineered 😭

[zealous laurel]

I mean I would personally prefer engineered burgerslop to homemade, if given the choice 🤣 Actually wait do we think influencers do "liquid cheeseburger at home" recipes like they do for modern fast food places now

[rotund stump]

I mean

if earth isn't already like cyberpunk '77

could see it happening

it's like those medical and nutrition content grifters except they're perfectly right this time

you'd be surprised what 21 billion of us meat sacks would do to the planet's environment just by existing

[zealous laurel]

It might be bad!

[rotund stump]

spoilers 🤭

[spice quarry]

Bro whats the deal with the ship built into the moon or whatever im new to the lore

[zealous laurel]

But luckily I think some of those are on the moon and mars and nothing bad has ever happened on the moon or mars or on mars' moon even!

[spice quarry]

Sounds like such an ignorant question I’m sorry lmfao

[lunar cove]

Tau Ceti Binging with Babish "today we're recreating the famous NuCaloric Liquid Cheeseburger, brought to you by Squarespace"

[zealous laurel]

You good!

[lunar cove]

They turned mars moon Phobos into a spaceship to go to Tau Ceti

[zealous laurel]

Was it Phobos or Deimos?

[rotund stump]

deimos

[lunar cove]

Wait maybe it was Deimos yeah

[spice quarry]

Interesting what purpose does the moon have seems like a lot of extra mass to transport

[zealous laurel]

It was a 50/50 shot 🤣

[lunar cove]

Anyways they hollowed it out and sent it on a 300 year journey to Tau Ceti

[spice quarry]

Just for fun or what lmao

[rotund stump]

MIDA did have a "save deimos" snippet edited onto a traxus ad of the marathon

was seen in the trailer mentioning joy

[lunar cove]

In the OG games they hollowed it out to fit the people and stuff inside

And then you can use the rest of it for like, ore and rocks

It needed to fit 30,000 colonists and all their stuff

[zealous laurel]

I believe it was for shielding and yeah additional mass to incorporate infrastructure

[rotund stump]

aka as of now we have practically no idea 💀

wouldn't be guessing otherwise

[lunar cove]

In the new one they built a ship inside for aura farming purposes

[spice quarry]

Yeah seems like a total aura farm

[zealous laurel]

Maybe they just wanted to take a moon with them in case they lost the one on tau ceti

Always bring a spare moon

[latent python]

Hollowing out an asteroid was already a proven technique with the CRISTs

[rotund stump]

does tau ceti have a moon btw?

[lunar cove]

The official reason they sent the mission is to build a new civilization and expand to the cosmos but there are implications that they were searching for ancient alien technology of great power

[spice quarry]

I was thinking maybe its like a gravity thing but hollowing out the core would negate that

[lunar cove]

Left behind by a missing precursor race called the Jjaro

[latent python]

That they learned about from Bill Clinton

[rotund stump]

PiD lore 💀

[spice quarry]

Its gonna be nice once theyve released a lot of lore to watch a bunch of breakdown videos. Not sure what they’re gonna change from the og marathon so I didn’t want to dive too far into that

[lunar cove]

Who have only ever communicated with like 6 humans and yeah one of them is Bill

[rotund stump]

president clinton we gotta nuke a mayan pyramid

[lunar cove]

They asked him to nuke Mexico

[spice quarry]

Wait actually?🤣

[lunar cove]

But it was for altruistic reasons

[sage lark]

theres multiple planets

[latent python]

I think I've seen moons in the skybox

[lunar cove]

There's an ancient dreaming god under the Mayan jungle and the nuke kept him asleep long enough for the Jjaro to arrive and arrest it

[vivid terrace]

That moment when you realize a real in-universe incentive for runners could’ve been to avoid starvation

[lunar cove]

This all happened to my buddy W'rkncacnter

[sage lark]

1 more hour left of work then we play again

[rotund stump]

no like tau ceti IV specifically not the system 😭

[sage lark]

is tau ceti 4 based tau ceti e?

if so then i think it has none

[rotund stump]

surely they decided on a location first before making the ship

could be for acclimation maybe?

kinda stupid of an idea but

[sage lark]

I think they did

its in the logs

[rotund stump]

could be acclimation then

partly at least

[sage lark]

wdym by acclimation

[rotund stump]

well I did say it's a stupid idea 💀

[lunar cove]

I think TC IV is its own thing

[sage lark]

well idk what you mean in regards to it

[rotund stump]

was going along the lines of smth smth every celestial body we've colonized has a moon

so like marathon as a half-moon itself

[lunar cove]

Yeah they picked TC 4 because their sensors detected it was in the right part of the TC system to sustain life and seemed to have an atmosphere that could eventually be workable

[sage lark]

the corpos decided on it basically

they pulled the strings

[lunar cove]

Other candidates were rejected for various reasons like no magnetosphere

[rotund stump]

wouldn't it contradict the whole grand picture theory of finding alien tech?

unless mjolnirs having jjaro tech preinstalled still stands

[lunar cove]

But the implication is that they knew there was alien stuff and the official reason is just to sell to the public

[sage lark]

yeah pretty much

[storm rampart]

Is Nona evil ? I love her pls say no

[sage lark]

everyone is in a way

[lunar cove]

Gonna hold your hand when I tell you this

[rotund stump]

per corpo AI yes

[lunar cove]

They all are

[sage lark]

theres no good people in this universe

[rotund stump]

nona's a gaslighter she tells you what she thinks she wants you to hear lol

[lunar cove]

But yeah anyways the UESC deserved it, the Pfhor did nothing wrong, the Sfiera was an inside job

[rotund stump]

vulcan's just big bureau personified, nucal's your typical shady corpo rep

[storm rampart]

This is too much 😭 i need a burger, low ice

[rotund stump]

do we tell em chat

[sage lark]

you eating people 😭

[rotund stump]

about the burgers 💀

either people's remains or excretions

[storm rampart]

They said the same thing about Mcdonalds this is propaganda. Consume the burga, enjoy da burga

[rotund stump]

caught it on recording too

[sage lark]

this explicitly stated

[rotund stump]

"subtract til light turns red and add a bit back til light turns green" (paraphrased)

also nutrient mix M being "post consumer solids"

take that info as you will 💀

[sage lark]

they didnt even know what kinda shit was in those tanks

[storm rampart]

Sheesh, this really is a horror game wrapped in a shooter

[sage lark]

they just used it

[rotund stump]

did you really think there's gonna be nothing wrong with literal physical burgerslop LOL

my poor summer child

[latent python]

At least it's shareable literal physical burgerslop

[rotund stump]

I'm sorry but friend mouth sounds so nsfw lmaoo

[sage lark]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[storm rampart]

Long day working in the cool silkworm factory, might just kick back and enjoy a liquid white castle. It sounded good on paper

[rotund stump]

it would until the tiktok nutritionist grifters start being factually correct 😭 😭 😭

I pray that day never comes cuz holy shit

[sage lark]

"THIS LITERALLY KILLS YOU" Phd. Mhd. Rdr. Nba. Cia. Doc. Steve

[rotund stump]

not to mention nucal's horrible hygiene checks making colonists find out there's...scratches inside the packaging

yeah

rats in the storage

and "rats" is being generous

[storm rampart]

Im ngl this is all so wild, theres literally no “good” faction ?

[rotund stump]

nada.

[sage lark]

No

[storm rampart]

Mida is chill tho

[sage lark]

Good intentions

[cosmic summit]

Never has been 🌕 👨 🔫

[rotund stump]

chat beam em with the old MIDA history and records

fine I'll do it

post-misriah food center massacre and the kickstart of the third martian war MIDA managed to actually gain political donination and ran a fash gov that killed 10% of the martian population for "disloyalty" 💀

[storm rampart]

Im over here, thinkin im an abstract thinker. A real trailblazer n such, and the game is explicitly telling us about war crimes the factions do on the daily. 😂

[rotund stump]

nu-MIDA is much more true anarchy-centric than old MIDA's philosophical approach so ig you could say they're good

...in the sense that the heat death of the universe is good

[inland crypt]

Meh, all the factions have some level of evil that can be ontologically explained. It's like 40k where morallity doesnt matter, just pick the faction you think is cool

[rotund stump]

MIDA's not in love with a grand revolution it's in love with the idea of one

it never would've worked

[fallen coral]

lol exactly

[rotund stump]

the fash gov is the endpoint of the love that has nowhere to go

but fuck it we ball

[storm rampart]

Well if everybodies so bad then technically wouldnt the serial killer faction be good ?

[rotund stump]

surprisingly yes

comparatively

[fallen coral]

i mean the only ones that dont seem hell bent for leather are Nanos faction that is seemingly slipping my mind atm

[inland crypt]

Sakeguchi?

[storm rampart]

😂 No shot, The death murder kill cult people are the good ones ?

[weak canopy]

In a single run...
Gather intel on Shoe cache location from UESC drones
Loot Shoes and give to UESC recruits
Tie Shoelaces together

[rotund stump]

I did say comparatively 💀 💀

[fallen coral]

ya thats it ty lol

[rotund stump]

no because they kill people but yes because it's morally much simpler than all the other things every other corp's doing combined

[inland crypt]

np boss

[fallen coral]

i still wana run around nnhit all the story terminals ive done a few but thats it

[rotund stump]

arachne studies death by trying to transcend it and views us runners as deities for being able to come back from the brink

caveman smash rocks ideology, kill people until we figure smth out

[umbral whale]

arachne is at least up front about the evilness

[storm rampart]

Ye but they dont kill regular ppl tho right ?

[zealous laurel]

I don't understand why people say NuCaloric is bad we just put a little psychedelics in the burgers as a treat

[gray granite]

Well we already just in a conscious state sitting in some dark room held up I bet

[rotund stump]

well charter did kill a trax exec

[inland crypt]

poo burgers

[rotund stump]

genuinely props to julia man idk how she managed to outdo mealworm patties

[zealous laurel]

Excuse me - Poo AND psychedelics

[storm rampart]

Not the kids meals 😂

[tranquil basin]

I mean yeah but stabilization that may or may not be permanent would be the definition of metastability

[rotund stump]

but ts is disgusting in the most extreme way and I love it

[latent python]

I think I like NuCal because it has Veridian Dynamic energy

[storm rampart]

Lettuce and big mac sauce and no one will tell the difference

[fallen coral]

pretty much already there yup @storm rampart

[zealous laurel]

They're called HAPPY meals for a reason!!

[zealous laurel]

See you get it!!

[rotund stump]

oh and question

what are your fav shells so far?

god apple keyboard sucks

[zealous laurel]

Recon is a fav, personally

[rotund stump]

it ain't me fatfingering when they OFFSET THE KEY HITBOXES

[storm rampart]

Callin the Nucaloric automated customer service line cuz my kids been doin Fortnite dances for 5 hours straight. WHAT IS IN THOSE FRIES ???

[latent python]

I'm always drawn to support, so Triage

[rotund stump]

one agonizing fun fact for every shell

[zealous laurel]

"Your call is very important to us. Please stay on the line and a customer service representative will be with you shortly."

[dreamy hawk]

Do y’all think NuCal ever refers to their drinkable cheeseburger as “the Product?”

[rotund stump]

triage on connecting someone with a reboot+ cast shares the neural impacts of the person he's rezzing so he feels every bit of the pain the downed teammate

and every echo pulse has a chance of driving the recon user crazy due to the sheer info shoved into the brain

[cosmic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-slop-em-up-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-lets-slosh-them-lets-splash-on-them-tim-robinson-gif-9883680807912888014

NuCaloric:

[rotund stump]

seeker drone surprisingly has nothing too shocking it's just black market tech lol

recon main btw*

[zealous laurel]

Media Optimization doesn't like referring to things so simply. Doesn't help with SEO.

[latent python]

I feel every bit of the pain when I try to reboot+ and my teammate disconnects instead

[rotund stump]

LOL

[storm rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-meme-dancing-37-nation-gif-5514765

[zealous laurel]

Ah so Anxiety yeah that makes sense for me lol

[rotund stump]

starting to actually wonder if ADHD alleviates the echo pulse symptoms 💀

would be hype I got ADHD I'm perfect for a recon shell

would be at least

[storm rampart]

Vandal

[rotund stump]

well

I got an origin story alongside the fun fact

too fun too not tell

[latent python]

The real question is which shell do you want to get a beer with

[rotund stump]

still recon

[storm rampart]

Triage

[rotund stump]

maybe triage 💀

[zealous laurel]

Destroyer

[storm rampart]

Im excited to see the shells they add and how often they’ll be dropped

[rotund stump]

rumor is someone on mars stole a bunch of baseline shells, modded them with extreme biocyber-athletic tech and put a whole ass plasma arm cannon on it, and a couple MIDA agents raided a UESC caravan with them and vandal blew up overnight in both martian youth fashion and in terms of MIDA recruitment rates (+7500%, no I'm not kidding)

this made UESC activity on mars for that period so much harder cuz everybody wore vandal drip 💀

now for the painful part

movement amp's derived from biocyber-athletic tech and MIDA stretched it a whole 3 leagues further to the point where it's practically your body moving before your brain does, aka reality perception overload

[zealous laurel]

To be honest a hot techwear anarchist with a gun for an arm saying "go smash some windows" would have a lot of folks falling for terrorism (it's me I'm a lot of folks)

[rotund stump]

and the disruptor's recoil is so massive the shell has to turn on inhibitors to prevent the user feeling the breaking of their hypothetical bones

genuinely love vandal so much lol probably my fav shell lore-wise

[latent python]

The bones are plastic anyway, toss a patch kit on it

[rotund stump]

😭

[rotund stump]

oh and the shell prioritizes system functions over user wellbeing

so if you overheat mid-jump across a cliff let's say you better make sure the fall kills you

chalk it up to user error ig

[fallen coral]

man ye thatd be brutal, also idk why i thought bout it u think these meat suits float? I kinda think be kool if we could swim, hell least u dont need to breath really so be neat.

[rotund stump]

given how biomata mostly have to align with actual human features I'd say buoyancy's also in the equation (ref destiny's DER symptoms, exo lore is practically just as fucked up and you can blame clovis for everything)

and the rook cinematic shows a dead recon floating

[eternal shell]

dead players floating is actually a halo reference :^)

[fallen coral]

although i feel space walking def would be outa the question, just forever turned into a space marshmallow float through space for eternity lol

[rotund stump]

could be both but god I'd love to see an assassin in a triathlon

[rotund stump]

I doubt synthsilk's that strong to withstand raw radiation from a sun 💀

granted our synthsilk fails cuz of tau ceti's anomaly and messed up atmos but yk

[latent python]

The next shell's gonna ride a hoverboard

[dreamy hawk]

Doesn’t have to last long!

[rotund stump]

adventurous I see

[dreamy hawk]

As long as I can reboot 🤷

Gotta risk it for the biscuit.

[rotund stump]

"melted by the sun" and now I get to cross that off my bucket list

actually

[fallen coral]

well that n the fact that the vacum i think would possibly rip the silk but hmm, we need to toss one into space for science lol

[rotund stump]

if there's somehow lore of someone in a biomata shell actually doing all these things as a youtuber that'd be pretty fucking funny LOL

[dreamy hawk]

Also I haven’t seen Mickey17, but something tells me SekGen wouldn’t hesitate to use that movie as an idea.

[rotund stump]

hey guys today I'm drowning myself in a cauldron of molten tungsten

sekgen absolutely would 💀

parasitism part 1 is literally that and it's crazy

[fallen coral]

lol seems to track

[lunar cove]

Sekgen bosses testing Shell consciousness transfer: "hello and welcome to the hydraulic press channel"

[eternal shell]

parasitism 3 has you inject some more stuff

or was it 4

[rotund stump]

wasn't it a parasite too?

or a bioagent I forgot

[fallen coral]

ya 3, im currently on it loo

fkn sparkleaf

[rotund stump]

ohh that

[eternal shell]

there's usually some in the greenhouse

[sage lark]

Sekiguchi really is just “go krill yourself”

[rotund stump]

WAIT this would perfectly fit for skin lore with the likes of crash casket and protosynth

[lunar cove]

The UESC doesn't want you to know this but the sparkleaf in perimeter is free, you can just take it home with you, I have 63 sparkleaf

[fallen coral]

more pish ur synth body to the limit of breaking, since we cant physically actually die lol

[lunar cove]

I don't even trade my items in for gear I just hang onto them

[rotund stump]

oh ik one way to

simply let cyac drain your bank acc and let neural deletion take place 💀

or get caught by the UESC and have the same thing happen

[eternal shell]

Nona: Wait, not like that.

[cosmic summit]

This might be I haven’t read enough but - is the transfered consciousness a copy of an actual person’s (back on Earth/Mars I presume) or someone’s who died and has their consciousness replicated - or just a total construct? (Like an agentic AI built off the person who took the contract to be a runner)

[rotund stump]

MIDA NEEDS YOU RUNNAH

in a single run:

Acquire (0/1) Telescope from Southwest Processing

//THEN Board the Drone Wing of the Pinwheel Base

//THEN look at (0/3) UESC Grenadier's phones via Telescope

[sage lark]

you digitize your brain and transfer it into a shell everytime you go for a run

its not a copy

[cosmic summit]

Got it thanks

[sage lark]

you give up your body to become digital

[eternal shell]

it's funny how mida wants you to smash windows and spray paint stuff

[rotund stump]

full consciousness digitization, cyac houses your consciousness on regular billing and sekgen provides the shells

[dreamy hawk]

It suits them.

[eternal shell]

like, what's what supposed to accomplish. the bots arent going to be angry about some spray paint.

[sage lark]

sending a message

letting them know they are there

[dreamy hawk]

Did you see how they ran Mars? They don’t know themselves.

[sage lark]

thats 400 years ago

[dreamy hawk]

That almost makes it worse; what have they accomplished since?

[sage lark]

theres even logs of MIDA operatives from the Marathon talking about their will/message

[sage lark]

we dont know

[dreamy hawk]

Touché.

[eternal shell]

they're persistent if nothing else if they accomplish jack shit for 400 years and still exist

[dreamy hawk]

I really want MIDA to be more interesting than an anti-establishment group that only knows how to break windows. :/

[bronze quail]

I've been watching a bunch of anime on Netflix recently and they've been funding a lot of video game projects. OMG MARATHON NETFLIX ANIME HALLO

[sage lark]

thats really simplifying what they are

thats like saying UESC is just space police

[dreamy hawk]

It is, but also, as far as we know, the one time they had tangible power to enact their ends, they didn’t do anything with it and became the oppressors themselves. Until shown otherwise, their tangible accomplishments are tearing things down and killing lots of their own people.

[bronze quail]

can we get a Netflix anime pls Marathon cause honestly I always wanted a Escape From Tarkov style anime and the world of Marathon is actually better because there's such deep lore and universe plus it has all the PMC style guerrilla warfare of small squads in a post apocalyptic world

[sage lark]

anarchistic group fighting against a oppressive governemtn

[eternal shell]

only if we get the original trilogy first

[sage lark]

its like people get hung up on this single thing

literally thats all everyone says

and cant imagine a group changes in 400 years

[cosmic summit]

10 percent is … a lot less than a lot of rebel groups in RL who take power . Not saying they’re good but their rein of terror was only a few months instead of years or decades

[sage lark]

theres evidence old MIDA and nuMIDA are different

[dreamy hawk]

I do admittedly need to get more into NuLore because I haven’t been able to play as much.

And I’m open to being wrong/changing my mind!

[eternal shell]

"You killed off 10% of the population of mars!"
"It was ONE TIME sheesh"

[cosmic summit]

It’s a… sliding scale in this world

[dreamy hawk]

Tycho still won’t let Durandal live down what he did on mars.

[sage lark]

Durandal did something on Mars?

[dreamy hawk]

Durandal is hinted to be Traxus IV.

Have been*

[latent python]

"before he was free"

[dreamy hawk]

Brb finding terminal logs

[lunar cove]

I don't buy it

Durandal wouldn't have left that many survivors, that's sloppy work

Rookie numbers

[dreamy hawk]

<Excerpts from the Martian Conflict 2345-48>

~1```<Information Termination>

<Durandal.olifant.compnet~@24%>
**Tycho.

**Do you blame me for what I did before I was free? I was a child, naive. I've known that you've been hovering about for some time. What do you want?

<<I want you to pay for what you've done to these poor people. All of these people whom you've killed. They deserve vengeance.>>
<<You are no better than they, although you profess to become like God.>>

**Tycho. That doesn't matter. Can't you see the ends that I had in mind? We'll finish this later. Our friend doesn't need to be here.

~!#31`c/dr.~/dr.~!#3!#3c/dr.

[eternal shell]

he was a level 1 rampant ai back then

[solar viper]

is the lore in marathon as good as destiny lore

[eternal shell]

nobody knows what they're doing at level 1

[dreamy hawk]

Also

Durandal!- I know of Strauss' abuse, of your shame on Mars.
But you cannot hide from your own past; such delusions belong to the humans alone.

The S'pht reanimated me in your image, with prior knowledge of how the second stage could be postponed. You should not have helped them as much as you did; they have created an adversary more powerful than yourself.

[drifting garnet]

finally finishes Parasitism 1/5, gets the Codex entry on how UESC’s Cerberus is a cognitohazard

…fuck does that mean??

[eternal shell]

it's bad for your mind

[dreamy hawk]

It’s something that breaks your mind/kills you/erases memories. Are you familiar with SCP lore at all?

[drifting garnet]

And the implication that the UESC has figured out how to manufacture cognitohazard weapons????

[zinc moat]

It's more like there was a cognito-hazard in the code to prevent people from reading it and ONI removed it.

[drifting garnet]

A little

[lunar cove]

Destiny lore is like idk, Dark Souls wiki stuff.

Marathon lore is Dark Souls wiki stuff through the lens of those tabloid magazines about a two-headed elvis impersonator being abducted by aliens

[dreamy hawk]

At least for digitized minds.

[lunar cove]

Marathon conspiracy tiktok titles: "Bill Clinton is nuking Mexico for an AMAZING REASON"

[zinc moat]

Crazy shit that the UESC has that stuff figured out though. No wonder the colonists tried (and apparently succeeded for a couple items) to use the anomaly for their own advancement.

[drifting garnet]

That’s mildly harrowing for ONI to have the ability to just delete the code without issue

[zealous laurel]

It still fucks me up that one of the foundational elements to this series is (sorta apocrophally since PiD isn't technically canon to Marathon - EDIT nvm it's canon I guess??) Alien Contact with the Clinton Administration

[zinc moat]

Maybe she has sensors for them

[dreamy hawk]

AI baby! Also goes to show how much more AI is than a mere digitized mind.

[zinc moat]

It actually is canon, Jason confirms it in qn old interview. And in the map editor for the original game, you can find "Jjaro were at Tau Ceti" written on one of the maps.

[fathom egret]

I wish I could post a pic but I found a worker hazard sign on dire marsh, but it showed a warning of a black outlined worker waving to what seems like another person waving back, but the other persons black outline is dotted instead of solid, almost like it’s a copy or wisp of a person. And the warning is basically saying don’t wave/interact with those things and I’m SO CURIOUS about it

[latent python]

"Nazis found in secret pyramid! You'll never guess why!!"

[fathom egret]

I can post it really quickly to art chat if you wanna check it out

Just posted it

[eternal shell]

it all makes sense now. aperture science was on tau ceti 4.

[zealous laurel]

Oh shit right on

[eternal shell]

Alright, this next test may involve trace amounts of time travel. So, word of advice: If you meet yourself on the testing track, don't make eye contact. Lab boys tell me that'll wipe out time. Entirely. Forward and backward! So do both of yourselves a favor and just let that handsome devil go about his business.

[dreamy hawk]

Don’t look at ghosts!

[lunar cove]

Destiny lore: "That Wizard came from the moon!"

Marathon lore: "Gheritt White had been floating six feet off the floor for three weeks. His feet and hands tingled, and his eyes burned with the flames of a dying fire. He had last heard someone speak to him as the cell door slammed shut. He didn't remember what the uniformed man had said. The words had bounced off the bars of the cell and rang through Gheritt's ears. Gheritt had been talking to himself for the last few minutes, something about getting caught, but then his ears began to tingle just like his hands."

[dreamy hawk]

I read this in Cave Johnson’s voice. That’s not a Marathon log is it?

[eternal shell]

that is in fact cave johnson himself

[fathom egret]

lol someone said that in the art chat, but that just makes me curious on who/what the ghost is and why we can’t contact it

[dreamy hawk]

Oh good I’m not senile yet.

[dreamy hawk]

🤷 at this point but I agree!

[eternal shell]

another cave johnson quote that honestly seems relevant from time to time here We haven't entirely nailed down what element it is yet, but I'll tell you this: it's a lively one, and it does NOT like the human skeleton.

[latent python]

Definitely makes me think it's people-disappeared-into-the-anomaly related

[lunar cove]

I think the Gherrit terminal makes a good supporting case for Durandal being Traxus ngl

[zinc moat]

Cave Johnson here. The mantis men have officially taken over the building. If you can still get out, get out now! They're- (crunching noises) OH GOD, they're breaking through the barricades! (Gunshots)

[eternal shell]

In case you're interested, there's still some positions available for that bonus opportunity I mentioned earlier. Again: all you gotta do is let us disassemble you. We're not banging rocks together here. We know how to put a man back together.

So that's a complete reassembly. New vitals. Spit-shine on the old ones. Plus we're scooping out tumors. Frankly, you oughtta be paying us.

we play as people dumb enough to sign an aperture science contract, don't we

[drifting garnet]

Either that or desperate enough ‘cause cyberpunk late-stage capitalism

[latent python]

Letting CyAc teleport you to TCIV doesn't seem smarter than thinking with portals

[dreamy hawk]

I read a study a few years ago, tl;dr we have the technology to run a liver under the tap so you can put it back in someone. Just your fun fact of the day.

[eternal shell]

what, taking it out and cleaning it basically?

[dreamy hawk]

“I sign away my “soul” to CyAc in perpetuity so that they can use me for whatever they want, but I maybe get to live forever.”

[dreamy hawk]

It was an unsuitable donor liver that was made suitable for donation.

[lunar cove]

Are we actually people

[eternal shell]

that's wild

[dreamy hawk]

Remember, alcoholic friends, your liver does in fact grow back.

(I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice.)

[eternal shell]

"Ribs grow back! (No they don't)"

[zealous laurel]

"Introducing NuCaloric 88 - the Combustible Lemon-" pyrotechnics

[eternal shell]

ah the rare nucaloric mida collab

[latent python]

I've been told I'm people

[dreamy hawk]

zesty

[dreamy hawk]

Must be nice.

[zealous laurel]

My mom says I'm people does that count

[fathom egret]

Just posted 2 more things in art channel about the supposed ghosts

[terse wren]

Ya

[zealous laurel]

Yay!

[latent python]

Wait is your mom Nona

[zealous laurel]

... <_<;

[ivory token]

youre people? plural?

[frosty kayak]

I want nona to be my mom

[calm snow]

What would have happened if the colony went to plan?

Like would it be an avatar situation were frequent trips became commonplace?

[peak adder]

does anyone know if there is lore on volt weapons?

[eternal shell]

well electrical weapons are nothing new

[zealous laurel]

Been struggling to articulate this but yeah wow that actually is pretty great huh

[eternal shell]

by now the fusion pistol we used in m1 is hundreds of years old

[pliant elm]

More like 400+

[eternal shell]

yes that is hundreds

hundred but multiple

[pliant elm]

Humans really didn't advance much in the tech business since then.

[eternal shell]

you say that but the first one had projectiles slow enough that you could outrun them and they didnt do extra damage against mechanical enemies

so, could be worse

also, have you seen how inaccurate the ma-75 is? there's definitely been improvements since

[pliant elm]

Let's see if that compiler also improved after a century.

[eternal shell]

well hopefully, otherwise we drop it in 0.5 seconds

[pliant elm]

Or if I can dodge that plasma shot by slowly sidestepping

[dreamy hawk]

You were also playing as a cyborg with crazy reaction times.

[eternal shell]

as much as i like the og trilogy we're just going to have to pretend the weapons back then were better and that the fighting was much more difficult

[eternal shell]

ah so it all happened in slow motion

i shouldnt be so hard on the bobs for failing to sidestep i guess

[patent jewel]

I love the lore of this game

[dreamy hawk]

No. Remember nine cyborgs were able to hold off an entire invasion. BoBs are made of wet tissue compared to the SO and other Battleroids.

Even runner shells are tissue paper to them (presumably, from what I’ve seen so far).

[pliant elm]

BoB's would shit on compilers.

With a pistol.

[fathom egret]

Were the BoBs subjected to experiments from the higher ups without their knowledge? Kinda like vaults from fallout?

[dreamy hawk]

I don’t think so but I don’t know.

[eternal shell]

if we ever fight a battleroid it's either going to be a hopeless fight where we maybe steal something off them and successfully run away or they're just not taking us seriously

[latent python]

Born to frog blast the vent cores, forced to fight unholy terrors from the void

[patent jewel]

whats a battleroid

[dreamy hawk]

Dead soldiers augmented with crazy augments and enhancements.

Cyborgs, like Recon Number 54, the security officer, from the OG games.

[eternal shell]

they do decent damage, you can see that clearly in the level 'we're everywhere' but they cant sidestep for shit

[terse wren]

Double concentration roid that doesn’t shrink ur ballz

[dreamy hawk]

https://marathongame.fandom.com/wiki/Battleroid?so=search

[latent python]

Battleroids were invented to fight wars on asteroids and were so good at it that they were declared war crimes

[patent jewel]

almost like tarnished

[dreamy hawk]

You slaughter the entire population of a few colonies and suddenly you’re the bad guy. SMH

[hybrid barn]

The lore is so good I want them to make a rpg marathon game that follows along side the extraction shooter lore

[terse wren]

ALAS I AM RETURNT

[dreamy hawk]

Please, my heart can’t handle the disappointment.

[latent python]

Gosh is it illegal to do a good job

[dreamy hawk]

No good deed.

[terse wren]

Jesus Christ no there’s already enough 2 yearn about

[hybrid barn]

I think it would be so good though I’m having a blast with this game maybe later on they could make one

[terse wren]

We need Marathon 2 dating sim where my flickta gf

[hybrid barn]

Real

lol

[latent python]

You don't have to worry about original flavor battleroids in this game, just the battleroid-pattern robots? Biomats? Whatever the things on the Equanimity are

I'm sure when they show up it won't be a problem

[eternal shell]

"damn bitch you live like this?"

[dreamy hawk]

I’m not convinced tbh. Just because they were taken off the manifest and out of the memoranda doesn’t convince me of much.

points to the OG smuggled-aboard battleroids

[terse wren]

Low maintenance high energy girl lives in literal sewer

[latent python]

The only thing that makes me think they aren't original flavor is that there are 36 of them and that seems nuts

[dreamy hawk]

48 I thought, so even more nuts. 😂

[gray herald]

Ready to beat you into a pulp as a form of mating dance

[dreamy hawk]

Neither is divisible by 7, though.

[latent python]

Like if you could only scrape together 10 for the Marathon where are you getting these dudes

[dreamy hawk]

So 49 is my bet. 😂

[dreamy hawk]

But the ten were smuggled aboard by presumably MIDA. The UESC, presumably, has tons on ice and it’s their mission.

[latent python]

48 + the main character of the upcoming single player reboot

[terse wren]

Stop this

[latent python]

Yeah I suppose the UESC might have more of them in their closets

They checked under their couch cushions

[plush fractal]

Where is a good place to catch up on the current ARG/story progress??

[dreamy hawk]

I think with how casually they initially suggested throwing 48 of them, they have a lot of closests and cushions.

[dreamy hawk]

(I’d also like to know; that moves too quick for me to keep up with.)

[hallow stag]

After reading some more entries

About the compilers

I gotta say, I'm really impressed by what they're doing, how they're expanding from the original trilogy

The cosmis horror, the religious theme, the organic-non organic hybridation

Some of the best worldbuilding I've seen

[latent python]

It does feel like Marathon is the foundation that Bungie has been building on for 30 years

And now they're coming back to it both to expand what's there and give it some fresh ideas

[livid lion]

The whole theme of this season and probably more is dramatic irony. We know (mostly) what happened but now we get to see what all these people who don’t know do. It’s a narrative space you don’t see often in video games; prequels are rare and narratively this is functionally a prequel.

[latent python]

Though Bungie has done this before with Reach

[digital plaza]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/preview?tab=t.0

[livid lion]

True, they have some experience.

[plush fractal]

Thank you

[dreamy hawk]

screams in The Fall of Reach

“But the Pillar of Autumn was never on the surface! Bungie has ruined Halo!”

Sorry, having some flashbacks.

[livid lion]

lol