#📚marathon-lore-discussion

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sinful thicket
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Arachne skinned me and their contracts aren't actually that difficult

soft girder
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🫃 🫃 🫃

deft cipher
sinful thicket
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put it this way, while trying to do the other contracts you WILL encounter other runners. If you're in a trio you dont' actually have to land the killing blows either, just be there and survive the violence

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runner shells aren't exactly battleroids but the way you can just weave another shell and send the same, experienced mind to a fight over and over is almost as scary

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maybe sekiguchi also found something they're not exactly supposed to have their hands on

deft cipher
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something about SekGen makes me shiver. No clue what.

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I wanna like and trust Sekgen,, i just need to think about it

sinful thicket
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JJARO WERE IN JAPAN

serene ravine
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where is our weapon stickers ?

rotund stump
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yes that includes nucal

rotund stump
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stickers also have a quantity count

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usually 2

deft cipher
rotund stump
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cyac's a monopoly and very much has the power to send out physical forces (syn-dis shells), nucal hides its crimes very well but their drinkable burgers have literal human excretions in them lol

wet osprey
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At least Arachne's entire thing is "Kill other runners lol you're gonna kill so good bro"

rotund stump
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post-consumer solids they call them

sinful thicket
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cyberacme owns and surveils almost all digital communication
nucal basically have a monopoly on the basic neccesities for human life
mida are an aimless anti-disestablishment group, their existence isn't exactly positive
arachne is a cult. it's just a cult. a rich cult at that, but at least it's only encouraging non-living shells to murder each other
if you don't think traxus is up to something you're stoopid

rotund stump
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lemme expand on this

fallow wagon
sinful thicket
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UESC also aren't exactly squeaky clean either, but the few codex pieces i got during the server slam demo clearly stated humanity wouldn't even be there if it weren't for their stewardship

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as runners, we're kinda just petty assholes stealing things we shouldn't even be breathing near in the first place

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so yes this is Thief V

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
soft girder
sinful thicket
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if it were the choice between the UESC and Traxus you'd probably still want the UESC leading to impose regulations

knotty moon
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Is there a spread sheet on how to do stuff

soft girder
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I haven't grabbed too many of the intel entries yet, but the impression I get is that there was a struggle on the colony between self-determination VS. making another Earth for the techbros to move to when old Earth got too uncomfortable for them. That's what I'm sensing from the whole "wait what do you mean we're terraforming the environment?" thing

bleak vapor
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so does the UESC have FTL travel or did they slowboat a mostly automated occupation and investigation force?

soft girder
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What I'm really curious about is what the relationship was like between BoBs and O.G. colonists on ice

fallow wagon
soft girder
rotund stump
# sinful thicket cyberacme owns and surveils almost all digital communication nucal basically hav...

cyac's a monopoly, usually doesn't care for much since there's next to no competitors but definitely has some physical power outside of their digital empire on top of having their own rates on consciousness storage leasing to essentially enslave people

nucal prides itself on optimization and philanthropy while doing the least of everything else, covert corporate espionage and coverage control are their specialty given how burgerslop has literal human excretions in it as long as it passes checks and the company's history of surviving state-ending conflicts, storage quality's also minimum

Traxus Does Not Care About You.

UESC loves its authoritarian regime and war crimes with rumored backend deployments of banned weaponry and destroyer shells which had to be discontinued after the Consequences of Violence treaty, its CSL also develops some extremely questionable shit (recon and subsequently blackbird) as well as the org's constant war with traxus

sekgen's records feel kinda clean but you can rightfully assume biomata development requires animal cruelty (shit from a butt when we don't know anything about sekgen aside from its accolades yet, get searching)

nuMIDA's a shell of the old MIDA, values nothing but disruption of the current status quo, disregards or takes advantage of every other environmental element without knowing their natures or consequences, twists truths as long as it weakens the gov-corpo grip

arachne simply takes advantage of the status quo and is trying some kind of grand insurrection with the runner way of life, pursuit of a primal concept leasing to heinous obviously ain't good either

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hi

mental trellis
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The interior of the uesc marathon is actually space backrooms

rotund stump
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well it is a moon and a half long lol

soft girder
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Yeah after reading the lore on that one Destroyer skin... it's funny how the whole Battleroid controversy seems to have happened a second time in a slightly different form, now there's a bunch of ex-UESC spooks as runners, oof

rotund stump
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given destroyer's lore it's not that surprising lol

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SnD genuinely was that effective

bleak vapor
rotund stump
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same thing as people not letting go of a war when it's over

soft girder
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NIGHT OF 1,000 DEATHS

soft girder
soft girder
rotund stump
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hope we get to raid it either way

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if it's already arrived I hope it's some kinda security bypass to get up there

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if we're there waiting at the dock I hope it's a ton of stuff for the taking

fallow wagon
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Side note: This is the current UESC kill rate: 29,096/min (1,745,782/hr)

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just managed to calculate it

rotund stump
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authority at work huh

dim edge
fallow wagon
dim edge
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oh embeds are off. understandable tbh

rotund stump
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There are No Good Guys in This Story

dim edge
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good honestly

the real good guy is busy on Lh'owon rn

rotund stump
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the sketch vibe honestly matches mida too

queen adder
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OG lore question but was an AI potentially as powerful as Durandal running doors normal? Like I get the other two systems wanting a potentially powerful AI but doors?

Was there anything weird about the fact they used something they knew could fuck shit up since Traxus for such a simple system or are there smart toothbrushes in the marathon universe just waiting to escape

feral pawn
rotund stump
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every AI could've been what durandal is now if left unchecked

dim edge
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It's commonly agreed that Bernard Strauss purposefully put Durandal in charge of menial tasks to push it into rampancy deliberately. He was trying to create the first stable rampant AI.

feral pawn
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ragebaiting durandal untile it becomes a god

dim edge
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All of the AIs in the current game we've experienced haven't been gone rampant yet - IMO, rampancy is likely extremely uncommon in the Marathon 'verse because otherwise the use of AI would be completely untenable for most scientific applications

rotund stump
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no better summary than that

dim edge
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let alone any practical ones

feral pawn
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i'm still a bit behid sorry

sudden pollen
dim edge
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-# i dont have all the codex unlocked so you may have to fill me in

feral pawn
dim edge
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-# I'm just here to correlate with the old lore :3

mossy creek
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a collectible lore bit also mentions an incident with traxus 4 on mars

dim edge
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oh that's also referenced in M1 i believe

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hold on lemme get the terminal

rotund stump
dim edge
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"It is a side effect of Rampancy that AIs generally become more aggressive and more difficult to affect by subterfuge. Thus, actually disassembling a Rampant AI is quite dangerous. This was evident in the Crash of Traxus IV in 2206. By the time that the Rampancy of Traxus was detected, he had already infiltrated five of the other AIs on the Martian Net. The only recourse for the Martians was to shut down the Martian Planetary Net. Even then, it took two full years to completely root out the damage that Traxus had done, and the repercussions of the Crash were seen for over ten years after his Rampancy had begun.
-# Marathon 1, Defend THIS!, Terminal 2

rotund stump
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heh

feral pawn
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fair ig

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I still have to complete the contracts

dim edge
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oh wait yeah i think i know the codex entry youre talking about

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wasn't it like, darius experienced a failure that was not related to rampancy?

feral pawn
dim edge
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implying the server had like a hole blown through it?

feral pawn
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idk

dim edge
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ok i think we're talking about different codex entries lol

feral pawn
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I mean no, it does fails on that one

dim edge
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i got the one im talking about during the slam and ive been starving for diodes so i havent gotten it back

feral pawn
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like

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not allowing dr song to access

subtle oracle
feral pawn
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yum yum

dim edge
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there's a brief mention that nucaloric seems more interested in recovering the why than the what at least

feral pawn
dim edge
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NUCALORIC does not appear interested in sustained confrontation with the UESC or other corporate stakeholders, preferring to gather historical data and specific intel using hired RUNNER operatives.```
-# Marathon (2026), Establish Link: NuCaloric
clever aurora
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all perimiter terminals done?

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just need dire and outpost?

subtle oracle
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it spells that out in the MIDA entry

dim edge
# feral pawn btw quick question.... is Halo's rampancy any different?

This is a bit of a weird question. There's the Doylist (out-of-lore) explanation that Halo was originally in development as Marathon 3, before the entire scope changed, which is part of why the games have a lot of linked lore stuff like the precursors and jjaro and the marathon "cycle" symbol showing up all over the place.

However, there's also the Watsonian (in-lore) answer that rampancy is specifically a problem experienced with AIs. Marathon Infinity's story heavily implies that the player character, a cyborg, is going through rampancy himself which manifests very differently with an organic connected to a machine.

I don't know a lot about Halo lore, haven't played them yet, but I know that Spartans specifically are similar to Battleroids except for the "undead shambling corpse" part, so they are in fact most likely similar concepts.

feral pawn
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holy-

dim edge
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I'm familiar with the easter egg where you shoot civilians in Halo and get a Cortana line saying "Chief's gone rampant!" If you consider a culture that has only ever experienced rampant AIs destroying things in their haste like Traxus IV, then it's likely that any AI or human would see a cyborg* going mental and assume rampancy has occurred.

white adder
visual lynx
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the first level of Infinity is in some different timeline where Durandal never sent you to explore Lh’owon and yet somehow the W’rkncacnter has been released anyway.

then it jumps back to yet another timeline where you were never taken by Durandal in the first place but instead captured by the Pfhor with Tycho but that ends very similarly anyway.

then back to another timeline with Durandal where he awakens you earlier but it ends up just going the same route as M2 again

so then we try two other branches of the Tycho timeline before succeeding

feral pawn
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wtv

dim edge
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oh cortana goes rampant?

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maybe i should play those games sooner rather than later

feral pawn
feral pawn
torn oyster
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So gang. Wassup with this cryoarchives website? What do we got on it so far?

livid tiger
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was anyone able to scan the qr code sticker for one of the energy pistols? think it was for the v11

subtle oracle
feral pawn
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haven't read lore walls in a while, that's all

subtle oracle
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oh hey wonder if hamish has an update

visual lynx
feral pawn
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w...who

subtle oracle
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aw man is hamish done with daily updates since the games out?

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makes sense but 🙁

feral pawn
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pat pat lion

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pat pat

sinful thicket
subtle oracle
# feral pawn w...who

hamish sinclair. basically been keeping marathon and its lore alive, intact, and talked ab since its original release in 1994. hes an OG more than i think even most of the devs here are

feral pawn
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btw what happend to the Unnamed 'God' that crashed on the Yucatan Peninsula

sinful thicket
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sealed.

feral pawn
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oh oka

dim edge
# visual lynx the first level of Infinity is in some different timeline where Durandal never s...

The end of M2 has Durandal explain that the Pfhor are about to use the Trih Xeem to make the sun go nova as a last ditch effort "taking you with me" attack

The Pfhor have a weapon they save for slave revolts; a weapon which even they hesitate to use in the ordinary conduct of war. In the language of the Jjaro who conceived and built the device, it is called the trih xeem; a fair English translation would be "early nova".```
-# Marathon 2: Durandal, *All Roads Lead to Sol...* Terminal 1

It is implied doing so unleashes the W'rkncacnter, who was trapped in the sun.

When the W'rkncacnter came, Pthia was killed, and Yrro in anger, flung the W'rkncacnter into the sun. The sun burned them, but they swam on its surface.```
-# Marathon 2: Durandal, Six Thousand Feet Under Terminal 4

This has the knock-on effect of causing time to go screwy, and I believe the cyborg is flung unwillingly into a timeline where the Trih Xeem is used early in the attack.

Things have gone terribly awry. Until now, I thought myself immortal, but now I know that is not true. There are things that can destroy me with the ease that I slaughtered the Pfhor naval garrison and the Western Arm of their Battle Group Seven. But in their final gasp they used a weapon that I thought they had retired, even Tycho tried to keep them from using it.

Now I fear what that weapon has unleashed will destroy us. I once boasted to be able to count the atoms in a cloud, to understand them all, predict them, and so did I predict you, but this new chaos is entirely terrible, mindless, obeying rules that I don't comprehend. And it is hungry.

-# Marathon Infinity, Ne Cede Malis Terminal 0

feral pawn
dim edge
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isn't his site pinned?

subtle oracle
dim edge
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oh yep it is

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yeah hamish is the real goat, it's where I'm sourcing these terminal entries from

dim edge
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but if you do want to play the games yourself they do be free on steam tho

subtle oracle
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hes less keeping up with the NuMarathon entries rn but i feel its a matter of time until he uploads them all

feral pawn
subtle oracle
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maybe he'll do some end of season update to the site every few months idk

dim edge
subtle oracle
dim edge
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oh i forgot to actually link my source for "causing time to go screwy"

The nova went off on time and for a moment our simple victory was assured. But then, in a pathetic failure of discipline, the fleet's ranks broke in an all-out retreat. All quarters reported the same thing: half of the sun had gone nova, but the readings from the other half were impossible. It was as if the universe had forgotten its own rules.
-# Marathon Infinity Manual, Transmission to Pfhor High Command from Admiral Tfear

subtle oracle
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but yeah while the slam was down he was still posting codex stuff so he has it somewhere

subtle oracle
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i say maybe not icarus bc he was more the middle man between TC4 and the Marathon with sol. so he had more interaction with the Big 3

rotund stump
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bastion didn't have anything from what I got from the slam but that was when dasari went mia

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mostly darius going haywire during the query from dr song

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and idk which codex naarah comes from

dim edge
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icarus kept in contact with the sky, eh? love an ai with an ironic name

rotund stump
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heh

topaz thicket
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I think it's pretty clear that the arg website will reveal ||Five Nights at the UESC Marathon||

visual lynx
visual lynx
visual lynx
sinful thicket
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👏

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Looks like you figured it out

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Now even a dum dum like me gets it

subtle oracle
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assuming the last few are theories?

cerulean hound
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where can i see it?

karmic raven
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Can anyone give me the short on shells? To my understanding, they were people that essentially sold themselves to be immortal, but they do not fully own their minds or bodies and we inhabit them to do contracts and missions while the retain some of their former personality. Am I close?

visual lynx
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not theories exactly, more statements of what seems to be evident. since we now know that the 2888 message was by Durandal and what it said, we can back-calculate to when it must have been sent. and given what humanity apparently didn't know in 2888 in the second ARG, we can infer that they weren't involved in the sack of the Pfhor empire and hadn't received Leela's full warning message.

visual lynx
subtle oracle
rotund stump
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pfhorrest stealing my job I'm sadg

torn oyster
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||My trio are workin' on the easter egg thing, anyone else? We found a code on the terminals. We've only found 2 terminals so far but have a complete number. Unsure of if it's coordinates or something else.||

keen willow
visual lynx
# subtle oracle yeah but youre setting exact dates for stuff that should be date ranges. anytime...

a message received from Tau Ceti in 2888 would have to have been sent in 2876.

and 2881 is the date given in Marathon 2 for when the S'pht and humanity together sacked the Pfhor empire, which appears not to have happened in this timeline.

the mention of the Pfhor having cyborgs there is derivative of the 2811 data point where the Pfhor abducted cyborgs from Tau Ceti, which we know from Rise Robot Rise in Infinity.

visual lynx
rotund stump
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I'm the shell guy smh

visual lynx
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oh! ok I'll leave that to you then

subtle oracle
keen willow
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@torn oyster I found the terminal at south relay and a terminal between north relay and tunnels but I cant tell where the next image is showing

sinful thicket
rotund stump
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yay

visual pecan
torn oyster
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Oh duh, that makes sense lmao

sinful thicket
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the site's probably useless until everyone figures out Outpost and gets on a jump pad to the Marathon

visual lynx
sinful thicket
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I noticed in the new launch trailer there's hint of that static-y tuncer mirage effect which is a nice touch. it's still the same universe

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but damn wouldn't i just kill for a marathon 1 remake that ends with this new corrected timeline but with the new art and much better puzzles

rotund stump
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gonna have to check out the terminals myself

visual pecan
sinful thicket
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no one should be put through Colony Ship for Sale, Cheap

subtle oracle
torn oyster
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Well, anyone have any like, clues/hints/etc on the website info then? I noticed there's a countdown at the bottom. X yrs/months/days/hrs/min/sec but like it's counting down

sinful thicket
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Runners are also severely underequipped. Seems the Security Officer depleted every single rocket launcher and grenade launcher equipped rifle on board the marathon

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all we have are regular guns and whatever the equanimity and the UESC brought with them

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guess we can see the Control and Index cameras once a certain number of UESC bots have been dismantled. I better start playing...

visual lynx
subtle oracle
sinful thicket
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so 16th of june??

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maybe that's a deadline

subtle oracle
hazy mist
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since theyre three months

subtle oracle
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which we're simply Occam's Razor until further notice on even the m1 and Timeline 7 of M:inf stuff

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(if it seems likely it happened, it probably did)

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but we have no facts yet to back that up outside the compiler

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and the dates of the attack

torn oyster
north solstice
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7/7 is bungie day

visual lynx
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that's what "parsimony" means btw, in case you're not familiar with that term; Occam's Razor is aka the Principle of Parsimony.

that whole timeline is just my statement of what would be the most parsimonious series of events to explain the data thus far.

subtle oracle
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you dont need to play till 7am lmao

torn oyster
subtle oracle
torn oyster
torn oyster
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Well, that doesn't help lmao

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The video feed we see is in the past.

rotund stump
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I googled occam's razor and gemini fucking broke pfhorrest what did you do

subtle oracle
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so its pointing to that

visual lynx
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88 = HH = Hamish Hinclair

it's a joke on 819 being a nickname of sorts for Hamish Sinclair, and 88 being a shibboleth for a hate group I can't name without getting timed out

torn oyster
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I wonder how many grimoires are tied to the arg

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Or, easter egg hunt, or w/e

subtle oracle
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wdym

visual lynx
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huh interesting, I didn't catch until now that the gravitational anomaly in the cinematic would be in the year of the 40th anniversary of the colony's founding. I wonder if that means anything.

visual lynx
rotund stump
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nope you absolutely did something

elder swallow
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anyone found information about where we are in the main menu screen?

subtle oracle
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arg - in game lore and events we affect with irl psrticipation
easter egg - a reference to something outside the game from inside the game (like if there was a ball you could loot that was the traveler)

rotund stump
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it just went Occam's razor is a philosophical, scientific, and problem-solving principle stating that when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same1546782572522765383556534015638258661647414777552514578146714576356784826135645814576625881457613524584487771344445584551715668581628174577154564551126626636752718134764848348877526715655455821151614748154554865886617565548777166162584145747164478225881457788414611414164871347656247854452585474775416456172658826578415714781515152281861754854558771455581561727771746777615616614144414674747137151167771644146755451671587788414611414164871347656247854452585474775416456172658826578415714781515152281861754854558771455581561727771746777615616614144414674747137151167771644146755451671587788414611414164871347656247854452585474775416456172658826578415714781515152281861754854558771455581561727771746777615616614144414674747137151167771644146755451671587788414611414164871347656247854452585474775416456172658826578415714781515152281861754854558771455581561727771746777615616614144414674747137151167771644146755451671587788414611414164871347656247854452585474775416456172658826578415714781515152281861

subtle oracle
north solstice
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So the progress bar, that’s in the perimeter tick tunnel…

elder swallow
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we def arent on the marathon

hazy mist
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main menu or like lobby

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which one r u talking about

elder swallow
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lobby*

torn oyster
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Also, outta curiosity. I can't find the 3rd terminal. We found Station and South Relay

elder swallow
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like where you see your selected runner/prepare

hazy mist
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iirc thats the like liminal buffer whatever when our brain is uploaded to the internet between runs

north solstice
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Hauler and data wall

subtle oracle
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ohhh. thats the "liminal space" our runner/shell is stored in. we dont know a ton ab that until we get more sekgen lore imo

rotund stump
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probably the same place anywa yeah

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just liminal space

elder swallow
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Okay that makes sense. so to us its a 3d world? so sick

rotund stump
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'spose

dreamy hawk
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Nowhere, anywhere, the space in between.

unreal slate
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AI are less prone to casual anthropomorphism

dreamy hawk
elder swallow
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thank you gaius 🙏

rotund stump
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drinkable cheeseburger what do you have to say about the allegations of nutrient mix M being human feces in the ingredients list

radiant sandal
unreal slate
subtle oracle
dreamy hawk
rotund stump
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I mean tilk's already bad enough but 💀 💀

subtle oracle
dreamy hawk
rotund stump
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bouta bite raw iron

radiant sandal
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Tilk must be kinda spicy though.

rotund stump
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well I mean

dreamy hawk
rotund stump
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worm nestlings also small like tamarind when dried

plain flame
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Where the third terminal in perimeter?

tiny kraken
torn oyster
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How much of this was datamined?

unreal slate
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"Nutrient mix M" is not on the confidential ingredients list anyway. You must be thinking of ||MMC (Macronutrient and Metabolic Compound).||

rotund stump
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bungie already announced datamined content takedowns day 1

dreamy hawk
torn oyster
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Nice. I like to hear that

torn oyster
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There's literally thousands of messages. Where am I scrolling to?

tiny kraken
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the beginning 🥸

unreal slate
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To the fun

tiny kraken
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jk

short badger
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anybody see the cryo website?

torn oyster
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Where the heck did all the msgs go?

unreal slate
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To tau ceti

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via FTL

visual lynx
subtle oracle
rotund stump
wraith belfry
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🤔

rotund stump
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call in the mjolnirs

subtle oracle
torn oyster
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LOL Idk where all the msgs went. I HATE dataminers. That's why I was asking. Because if this info was from people datamining, I'd stop looking here and discussing because it wont' be fun

subtle oracle
torn oyster
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Nono I mean like, MY messages are gone haha The last msg I see was at 1026. My Discord prolly bugged, gunna restart after this run

unreal slate
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All substitutions must be approved by a NuCaloric Food panel.

subtle oracle
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heres where todays discussion began

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so yeah ppl coming in ab the terminals are.. a bit behind

fallow nimbus
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uescKillCount 58576965
uescKillCountNextUpdateAt "2026-03-07T05:46:00.131Z"

yall seen this on the website? Would be interesting if player uesc kills contributed to this total, perhaps it needs to hit 777,777,777 😂

subtle oracle
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recheck it. is that 5 hrs

torn oyster
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Okay cool, I now see everything lmao Yeah, just to clarify. Dataminers can suck booty. It ruins things and is why I never join stuff like this but I'm into it. I'm at the ground lvl and this is fun af to be a part of

subtle oracle
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777777777 would make sense. theyve done it before

fallow nimbus
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though tbh that seems like an absurd amount of kills for players to make in a reasonable amount of time

plain flame
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So everyone saying that security cam footage on second terminal of from within marathon ship right?

clever aurora
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does bingus lead you anywhere

fallow nimbus
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a couple hundred mil lol

subtle oracle
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Bungie lore always seems to keep a pretty decent crowd as opposed to the other parts of the games

torn oyster
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Maybe the zero g maker room lmao I can't think of what it's called

subtle oracle
fallow nimbus
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I only hopped on this like an hour ago

subtle oracle
fallow nimbus
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naaaaa there's no way

subtle oracle
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so thats a valid criticism

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hold on lemme look st slam stats

placid gust
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Alright guys, been a few hours - what’s our status? Any big updates? Traxus expects results…eventually

plain flame
clever aurora
subtle oracle
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so server slam had 130mil killed in 96 hrs

clever aurora
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whats now

fallow nimbus
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ok say we have like 80k concurrent players, all actually playing, that's like 732 uesc kills PER player, which is definitely doable but not in 12 hours

subtle oracle
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rn we're at almost 60 mil at 36 hrs into launch

fallow nimbus
radiant sandal
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I wish I could sign up for a "Ping me when lore is happening" role. I'd love to (try to) contribute instead of wandering in to see that everything's already been done hours ago.

subtle oracle
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thats ab half as many uesc/hr as the slam

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but the weekend hasnt hit yet

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and ppls best loot comes later

fallow nimbus
#

yeah that's fair

sudden pollen
clever aurora
#

i found a new image on website using inspect element. idk if thats datamining but you guys could go take a look yourselves. No crazy info from it from what i got

subtle oracle
#

going uesc/hr is better than uesc per player

fallow nimbus
#

anything on website is fair game imo

subtle oracle
#

bc thats a comparible thing

fallow nimbus
#

anything you can find there, they intended

subtle oracle
#

exactly

lucid moss
#

Did you guys figure out Cryo-Archive puzzle on Perimeter?

subtle oracle
#

yes

clever aurora
subtle oracle
#

its onto the website satp

lucid moss
fallow nimbus
#

anyone figured out any hidden codes from the random 3 character strings in the website?

north solstice
#

I think the progress bar counter fills based on matches completed. Well it’s a hunch

subtle oracle
fallow nimbus
#

I tried shifting every character through the ascii table but couldn't find anything legible

subtle oracle
tiny kraken
#

where'd the numbers for the a1z26 cipher come from again? they were overlaid on durandal's messages on the terminals?

north solstice
subtle oracle
clever aurora
#

is progress bar the greyed out bar over cam 3 footage

subtle oracle
#

yes its over a few

#

with the black and green stripes as rhe progress

clever aurora
#

yea

subtle oracle
#

im on mobile so i cant see it

clever aurora
#

updates in 12 mins

#

so maybe itll go up then

#

are perimiter terminals done though?

north solstice
subtle oracle
sinful thicket
#

the vandal costume is a bit scuffed but the recon one is REALLY good

torn oyster
#

LOL That's a big difference

subtle oracle
#

@fallow nimbus update pls on the countdown

fallow nimbus
subtle oracle
#

So its minutes

subtle oracle
north solstice
#

So if it’s uesc kill count is that runner deaths or uesc deaths

fallow nimbus
#

by cam timers you mean the re-establishing connection thing right?

subtle oracle
#

yeh

placid gust
fallow nimbus
fallow nimbus
# subtle oracle yeh

I don't think so? By what metric would you measure them lining up? On the minutes?

hasty rain
#

Oh, ok, I found what I assume is one of the Cryo terminals. It's one of those that look like the classic Marathon ones, but now are displaying a numbered percentege. It didn't let me interact with it, so I don't know if it's just on a timer until next week

fallow nimbus
#

I'm pretty sure the cameras all stabilize in 15 min increments, and the kill count update seems to be on a different sort of timing from that

subtle oracle
fallow nimbus
#

got 3 more mins til I can check again

subtle oracle
torn oyster
#

LOL

subtle oracle
#

The Z means its just UTC time

#

so next update is 6:01 am utc

#

overthinking olympics i get gold every time

#

I was partially right

torn oyster
#

Is it every 2ish hrs then?

subtle oracle
#

it does update every 15 mins with the cams

radiant sandal
#

Z must mean a third time axis!

torn oyster
#

LOL

subtle oracle
#

cause the last one was 5:46 and this one is 6:01

fallow nimbus
#

we're not thinking like durandal, we need to think in 4d guys

subtle oracle
#

how long left on the camera reset

fallow nimbus
#

5 secs

subtle oracle
#

WEIRD

clever aurora
#

Are there videos on the marathon lore so far?

subtle oracle
#

so its off by ab a minute

subtle oracle
fallow nimbus
#

yeah seems like they stagger it for some reason

clever aurora
#

Bet

subtle oracle
north solstice
#

I was basing my hypothesis on "I've been watching, you curious things... you violent ones. Your journey is only just begun. So many Marathons yet to run." Any clues in the other dialogue maybe?

fallow wagon
#

I love how I could be playing the game but instead I spent the last 4 hours reverse engineering the website instead

modern sleet
subtle oracle
#

@fallow nimbus should say 6:16 now

fallow wagon
fallow nimbus
#

yep

fallow wagon
#

and calculates how many uesc die per hour

sinful thicket
fallow wagon
#

its so stupid

sinful thicket
#

drinkable cheesburgers are all very.. very old.

fallow nimbus
#

can you not post images in here?

#

dang

subtle oracle
sinful thicket
#

i question why a runner shell can even drink them or what purpose it would serve but maybe that's the only safe way to consume centuries old liquid cheeseburger

fallow nimbus
#

59349001

fallow wagon
#

28,547/min (1,712,810/hr)

#

59,349,001
last total kill count

fallow nimbus
fallow nimbus
#

so definitely not reflective of actual player kills

fallow wagon
#

Note that this calculation is based on the last recorded updates at 15 minute intervals

real niche
#

hi

fallow wagon
#

rate changes

subtle oracle
#

Yeah. still ab half the total server slam rate

#

but the rate will go up as general loot gets better

#

and more ppl play

fallow wagon
#

The per minute is prob the more accurate

#

vs the per hour

sinful thicket
#

right i'm hopping in to contribute to total UESC bot death

#

may we all reach the marathon safely, or not.

torn oyster
#

My trio and I get like, 25+ a game lmao so

fallow nimbus
#

FUCK THOSE UESC CLANKERS

subtle oracle
#

maybe we're making a sacrifice to the compiler /j

north solstice
#

Can you change the url on the camera site to the cryo lab?

fallow nimbus
#

ya

fallow wagon
#

I wish we could post pictures here

fallow nimbus
#

/cryoHub

#

idk if those are the same actually

north solstice
#

I’m afk so can’t check, thx is it still restriced or wtfe

fallow wagon
#

✅ cargo —
🔒 index —
🔒 revival —
🔒 biostock —
🔒 steerage —
🔒 preservation —
🔒 cryoHub

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the pages

subtle oracle
#

maybe the first unlock is 77,777,777

#

hmmmm

hasty rain
#

So are those the 7 vaults? Is the compiler in the CryoHub?

placid gust
#

Likely

#

At least, that’s my own theory

#

I mean, this describes what I would expect to find in a “Cryo archive” if such. Thing existed

hasty rain
#

Yeah, biostock is probably where that shot with the bags labeled HUMAN was taken

north solstice
#

Where was triage and thief in that music video when they were trying to access the panel to the marathon?

torn oyster
#

BIOstock.... With.. A bag labeled... HUMANS?

north solstice
#

“Music video”

torn oyster
#

I'm calling it. AI went crazy and humans are now fertilizer

hasty rain
#

They were frozen! The Marathon was a generation ship but some scientists were actually frozen/stasised so they could arrive alive to the future colony

subtle oracle
#

cargo - gen good/food
index - lists of names/items
revival - coming out of cryosleep
biostock - maybe food storage
steerage - contrary to the name, these are living quarters
preservation - actually where i think people are stored
cryohub- the whole place?

plain flame
#

any update on the terminals? I found one on outpost but it was off

placid gust
#

CryoHub is likely the control area

subtle oracle
#

oh true

hasty rain
#

Oooh, yeah, preservation makes more sense for human storage

torn oyster
distant cradle
#

why does the terminal i found say 04%

#

im not up to date on arg stuff

subtle oracle
#

unless CArchive is a self contained map

plain flame
subtle oracle
#

maybe thats how much we had when it turned on?

hasty rain
subtle oracle
#

bc rn we're at about ~7.5%

north solstice
plain flame
#

Maybe the % means how close we are to unlocking access to the UESC Marathon

fallow wagon
fallow wagon
#

only reason I can see to include the uesc kill count

torn oyster
#

I bet the terminal percentage IS related to killcount progress but it doesn't update same time as the killcount. But I suck at predictions so

plain flame
#

I investigated the command wing tonight and I wasn't able to find any other clues

fallow wagon
subtle oracle
#

4% is the # we had when the terminals came on
tmrw it may update at 10am pst to a new % while the website keeps track of live numbers

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my theory at least

torn oyster
#

Yeah that's what I'm thinkin' Vulcan

placid gust
#

Oh wait I thought everyone was frozen, I didn’t know it was a generation ship - ok, interesting

subtle oracle
placid gust
subtle oracle
#

thats why the colony uses BoBs for menial/low tier tasks and theres like disdain for them from the scientists and stuff

placid gust
#

Ah I see I see, I guess I haven’t gotten those codex entries yet - thanks for the info!

plain flame
#

i wonder if we'll meet any

hasty rain
#

Do you guys think Cryo will be like Koschei in DMZ? Where you infiled into a normal map but then accessed a way to enter the special map? The runners in the cinematic grab an exfil that takes them to the Marathon ship

subtle oracle
#

my issue is didnt it rain in the MV?

north solstice
#

Yeah that made me think dire marsh somewhere

plain flame
#

Yeah outpost was the first landing site for new cascadia so there has to be a way up too

north solstice
#

Could also be outpost during day

plain flame
#

Yeah especiallly since we know there are variant maps with dire march night version coming out in season 2

north solstice
#

Showing the zone status as heat cascade makes me assume there will be other weather effects/day cycles

#

Could be where the anomaly is 🤯

frank fern
subtle oracle
#

it might be perimeter tbh

gray nacelle
#

do we know how we got from 35.212.46.162 to cryoarchive.systems ive tried to confirm thats how people got there but its not working, did i miss something?

subtle oracle
#

ohhh yeah thats marsh

subtle oracle
#

lesd to the site

gray nacelle
#

how exactly? ive been trying to do it myself to no avail

rotund stump
#

we are Not Ready for cryo

hollow surge
#

Have we tried brute forcing the terminal IP yet? 35.XXX.46.162 on the one at Overflow on Perimeter.

subtle oracle
#

its alr done

hasty rain
hollow surge
#

baller where can I keep track of that

subtle oracle
#

all the terminal stuff is done rn

hollow surge
#

I love the ARG stuff. Best part of this game

subtle oracle
#

go here on pc

#

we have to kill UESC

hollow surge
#

How do you keep track of progress? Everywhere I go for this game is toxic.

civic aurora
#

Back from car shopping with roomie. What I miss?

subtle oracle
#

at a certain # of uesc kills game-wide, new cams unlock

rotund stump
#

timer per match per this system doesn't really make sense

subtle oracle
hollow surge
#

that kicks ass

hasty rain
rotund stump
#

but how would it make sure there's enough players per lobby?

subtle oracle
#

usually if theres a new arg it starts getting news between 0-2 hrs after a daily reset (10am pst)
so just check messages in here in that time frame and scroll to see if stuff started earlier that dah

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bc we started the terminals and had them lesd to the cams around like 12 hrs ago

subtle oracle
hollow surge
#

I saw the website link somewhere but I just got to playin' for today and noticed a terminal change. Cool that they're related. I get points for noticing don't I haha

subtle oracle
#

it starts a new matchmaking

rotund stump
#

wait time's gonna be hell 💀 💀

subtle oracle
#

we dont know if its timed

#

tau ceti 4 is bc the anomaly

hasty rain
subtle oracle
#

the marathon may not be as aggressive time wise

placid gust
#

Well, based off of D2 , it probably will be timed - probably just standard 25 minute clock.

civic aurora
placid gust
#

I’m curious how exfil is going to work, honestly.

#

Like, is it all or nothing? Can you do one room and if you got your shit kicked in dip? Do you still teleport, or do you like, take escape pods or smth?

#

Shit wait that would be cool

#

There are finite escape pods, so even if you make truce with every squad and agree to split everything, there’s not enough for everyone to leave

north solstice
#

I’m imagining that teams are gonna have to work together to defeat whatever is on the damn ship

#

I also am having a hard time imagining getting two teams to work together

hasty rain
#

I'm thinking at least 2 or 3 opportunities to exfil, so one every 2 vaults, roughly

rotund stump
#

if it's timer per squad with a persistent lobby then it'd be less dependency but running a singular lobby like this for a long while's gonna put strain on the servers maybe

manic gull
rotund stump
#

plus all the props accumulating and people spamming claymores then leaving one way or the other lmao

manic gull
#

uesc will absolute NOT like runners doing shit around marathon so its probably going to be a final exfil type of deal with them as the focal point

subtle oracle
#

I dont see how you put a 25 min timer on "raid like mechanics" tbh

#

bc dying means losing everything not just a "wipe"

#

and this game is hard but thats plain unfair

placid gust
manic gull
placid gust
#

Damn ok that’s rough

plain flame
#

Outpost has a good amount of loot you just have to risk a lot more to get it

hasty rain
#

I think vaults are going to be kinda circular with exfils at the center maybe? Not so linear where you could leave traps for others. So you finish one or two, have enough cool loot and say, let's exfil and regroup. Maybe You come back later for the full 7

north solstice
#

I played rook on outpost all day and is was great

placid gust
subtle oracle
#

just so we're not completely out of our elements

manic gull
gray nacelle
#

was there anything in the videos

#

that gave hints or anything

#

or was it just aurafarming

plain flame
#

I think there were a lot of hints in the music video

subtle oracle
civic aurora
north solstice
#

Yeah I’m trying to find where triage and thief teleported to the ship from

plain flame
#

rook scouting missions will be needed

north solstice
#

I’m actually there right now doing exactly that lol

civic aurora
#

Havent seen work like this since Halo 3 and the skulls.

north solstice
#

I spent a ridiculous amount of time thinking the golden warthog was real

placid gust
#

It’s a Bungie thing - they make us work for it. You should see some of the shit people did for Destiny 2 puzzles. Dudes dedicated years of their life finding that 15th wish, only to discover it was preplanned to be released with a seasonal update 4 years later lmao

lilac crag
#

idk where this question should go but hypothetically if i did terminal things in first zone and saw... stuff... is there any confirmation i should be seeing? based off of the mail we recieved earlier in game

cosmic gate
#

so does anyone know how to like access the first video thing on the croarchive website?

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
#

dire marsh and outpost terminals have yet to turn on

lilac crag
#

so just 1 squad has to do it for everyone or do people need to each get attuned?

subtle oracle
lilac crag
#

gotcha

dense jacinth
north solstice
#

Yeah was just about to say can’t find a way in

dense jacinth
#

im assuming that door is locked until all the terminals unlock?

subtle oracle
#

Command wing is a puzzle hold on

dense jacinth
#

oh

frozen fern
#

Anything new since a couple hours ago?

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
subtle oracle
frozen fern
north solstice
#

Which is fine

dense jacinth
swift fox
#

So outpost was where most of the colony lived right?

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
north solstice
subtle oracle
#

good ass loot is in there at least

dense jacinth
civic aurora
placid gust
#

We haven’t seen much “residential” from the colony yet. We have perimeter, which is, well, the perimeter - had some data monitoring and such. Dire Marsh was an agricultural site, and Outpost was Ground Zero and appears to be both the Command and Control hub along with the connection point between New Cascadia and the Marathon. I’d be interested to see like a suburban zone in the future lmao

normal iron
#

wish i could play marathon

#

just constant weasel errors after doing everything i can to fix it on my end

subtle oracle
civic aurora
placid gust
#

Damn fr? D2 got like that for me sometimes too - give it a bit, and either it’ll fix itself or it’ll be so bad Bungo will likely take interest. If it keeps happening, I think there’s a reporting channel you can share it in,

normal iron
#

just the game gives you a error that says u were disconnected and sends u back to start screen where it says click to continue error code : weasel cant last 30 seconds in menu and cant get in game

subtle oracle
#

weasel error is a general network error

#

theyre actively investigating it but yeah put in a ticket

normal iron
#

how

subtle oracle
#

could be so many things

normal iron
#

i dont see a ticket option

subtle oracle
civic aurora
placid gust
#

Hey, now we have a esoteric ARGs instead, so progress

subtle oracle
#

and award level cinematics

#

which i hope this arg unlocks

frozen fern
#

Im sleepy, lmk if anything big happens

placid gust
#

Same here lol - Traxus Offworld Industries expects a full status report by tomorrow. (Not really, have fun doing what you do y’all lmao)

north solstice
#

So you need two access clearance codes to open the elevator door that goes to the command center

subtle oracle
#

hey someone in game rn help me out

civic aurora
subtle oracle
#

terminal i mean the thing with the colored lights

subtle oracle
civic aurora
#

lemme check

#

in codex already

north solstice
hasty rain
civic aurora
#

No i dont

mint wing
#

Question: Am I the caterpillar? I think I'm the caterpillar right?

hasty rain
#

I wish they could have ended things nicely with Seth Dickinson, who wrote the books of sorrow and so much more, so they could have him back on Marathon

mint wing
hasty rain
#

Bungie games have of course great gameplay, but personally the most I get from them is lore and immersion

sudden pollen
subtle oracle
hasty rain
hasty rain
cerulean hound
#

is the refresh timer on the cryoarchive page global or local? for me its showing 11m 30s (and counting)

north solstice
# subtle oracle alr

So there’s a much easier way inside than the two keycards assuming both way lead to the same place, but there’s another elevator and you just have to hack a nearby workstation

hasty rain
#

Also, I just saw the voice lines from maybe-Durandal from the Cryo terminals and I wish they kept the multiple concurrent voice takes that overlap, like the voice was in the Mielgo short. It's still nice, as it's Ben Starr

signal steeple
#

I got voicelines from durandel randomly on loading in. Dialogue was:
Oni: something about unauthorized communication
Durandal: "Your candles sputter and gutter."

subtle oracle
civic aurora
signal steeple
subtle oracle
#

I really think it ai uplink tho

#

"When its systems were functional, AI UPLINK connected the local support intelligence to the wider colony network and the Marathon ship."

hasty rain
#

*Durandal slides into your DMs

subtle oracle
#

lemme look at outpost location info

signal steeple
visual lynx
hasty rain
#

"hey babygirl"

"Durandal, please stop"

signal steeple
#

The marathon terminal in data wall said "4%" when I was doing a run like 2 hours ago btw

rain moat
#

Lmao

Also idk where or how people are solving this Marathon terminal puzzle thing, but there's another active terminal in Perimeter.
It's in Station. Thought people would like to know.
Coordinates are NE 055, I think??

signal steeple
subtle oracle
#

jk its def outpost

#

yeah i realize

#

airfield might be where we set off

rain moat
signal steeple
#

The perimeter terminals are the only ones turned on right now though? Aren't the dire marsh and outpost ones going to come after???

subtle oracle
#

Maybe theres stuff in the destroyed wing

night rampart
#

Seems like they kept the colonists and Marathon inhabitants pretty separated

north solstice
#

And also look for clues

visual lynx
subtle oracle
#

the tauceti.world makes me think we're gonna go all over tc4 and maybe even deimos

signal steeple
night rampart
#

Tho maybe they can find excuses somewhere

civic aurora
subtle oracle
signal steeple
#

Cyac: "don't worry about rampancy on the marathon, we have dr. strauss the rampancy expert onboard!

Totally not mida agent strauss: immediately causes durandel to go rampant for giggles, proceeds to indirectly destroy colony

hasty rain
signal steeple
civic aurora
#

null

hasty rain
#

Harlan was the author of the story, but was also a great narrator/reader of his own work

knotty moon
#

What are the latest details on getting to the cryo archive

dense jacinth
#

command wing doesnt seem to be the same as the place in the laucnh MV

signal steeple
north solstice
signal steeple
rain moat
#

The launch MV?? As in, "music video"????
What did I miss-

dense jacinth
lilac crag
#

speaking of rampancy whats the chances of interacting with tycho

dense jacinth
knotty moon
#

Dang no answer from anyone that’s crazy

rain moat
signal steeple
hasty rain
north solstice
dense jacinth
rain moat
#

Ohhhhh

#

lmao I see I see

dense jacinth
hasty rain
lilac crag
#

this could be out on a limb thinking but part of me things that the red lighting on the banner image and part of launch trailer makes me think about it. Durandal was always green i feel like

north solstice
sage lark
#

Well the mail in your inbox says the terminals will be active in order - perimeter, dire marsh and then outpost

signal steeple
#

spoilers for lore collectables ||people were worshipping the s'pht on the tau ceti IV colony||

verbal mountain
#

has there been an actual in-game/arg source for having to kill uesc to proceed or just from looking at scripts? (not seen all the durandal messages yet)

subtle oracle
#

Look for two tall skinny like /| connected at the bottom by lots of wires

hasty rain
subtle oracle
#

and updates every 15 mins

verbal mountain
#

this might be really stupid but.... where? lol

subtle oracle
lilac crag
subtle oracle
lilac crag
#

gotcha

verbal mountain
#

ahh okay so no actual like "in-universe" confirmation thats what we need to do

digital plaza
clear ridge
digital plaza
subtle oracle
dense jacinth
clear ridge
dense jacinth
#

got killed before i could get out through the way they escaped from in the video

digital plaza
dense jacinth
# north solstice Oh snap, huh

also the wing they were in in the launch mv seemed like it was in the drone wing no? cause it faces the like... long dock thingy i forgot the location LOL

subtle oracle
lilac crag
#

website killcount refernce, f12, check scripts in elemnts its there, i cant post screenshot here but its there

digital plaza
knotty moon
#

Is there a site I can go to where someone logs all the arg stuff that has happened this far. I want to see the history

dense jacinth
signal steeple
#

If you really want to read it I'm happy to just dm the screenshots

hazy mist
#

could udm the screenshots to me im veyr curious

signal steeple
dense jacinth
signal steeple
#

I'm silly, you can add multiple images to one post

subtle oracle
#

LMAO

subtle oracle
dense jacinth
#

WAIT IM ACTUALLY BLIND WHERE DOES IT SAY THERES A KILLCOUNT LOL

subtle oracle
#

god i love this channel. general is a hellscape and here its like a study group

#

uhhhh should say by the number in f12 requests

signal steeple
subtle oracle
#

this was earlier

dense jacinth
#

ooohhhhh

subtle oracle
#

i assume we're over 60mil now

signal steeple
#

61 mil yeah

verbal mountain
#

yea i was looking everywhere for an actual progress bar or something but ppl got it from the site data

signal steeple
#

61340875

subtle oracle
#

Well i hope the camera progress bars update.

north solstice
signal steeple
# signal steeple 61340875

I'd love to know if changes to the kill count are proportional with changes to the percentage shown in the data wall terminal.

#

Because if so then we could estimate the number of kills

subtle oracle
#

Im just confused why it was raining and not fire rain. maybe a preproduction change before the release?

signal steeple
#

Outpost has normal rain too I'm pretty sure, the fire rain doesn't seem natural

verbal mountain
#

theres massive like flares that explode to cause the heat cascade

#

you can hear them fire before it starts

signal steeple
#

I'm pretty sure it's caused by a weapon being fired at the outpost. You can hear it firing before heat cascade

subtle oracle
signal steeple
#

gotcha. I'm gonna go check the data wall term

subtle oracle
digital plaza
north solstice
subtle oracle
#

hamish might not be doing daily updates now that its out and hes playing

north solstice
#

Yeah my slow ass responding on mobile 🫣

subtle oracle
#

My adhd lets me do one thing and thats retain info

#

nah im on mobile too i get it

verbal mountain
#

maybe we'll get day outpost at some point like night marsh

#

but might just be an artistic choice for the video who knows

subtle oracle
#

btw

#

this

#

is in direct opposition to the audio logs @digital plaza uploaded

#

which means either rampancy or the anomaly is fucking them up baaad

signal steeple
#

Going to grab a screeny of the data wall percentage, brb

subtle oracle
#

gabriel (compassionate, empathetic) incinerates someone alive
joy (optimistic, patient) gets upset and interrupts the scientist

#

holy shit

#

was alva the one gabriel incinerated

#

from this

digital plaza
#

And i presume some audio logs after that, but i didn't unlock them yet

subtle oracle
#

ohhh yeah

#

we got zombies fs

subtle oracle
#

ts is dark

#

i fuck with that

sage lark
#

Atleast from the anomaly b sample logs

#

Unless theres some new ones

digital plaza
#

Someone also trying to get footage from quarantine...

sage lark
#

I feel like no one has the Night Patrol log for the anomaly sample 😭

sage lark
#

Holy shit

subtle oracle
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@digital plaza btw where did these come from? like what path of the codex

digital plaza
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World > Outpost > Collectibles

north solstice
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Are they like the personal logs you pick up?

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Oh okay cool

signal steeple
subtle oracle
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okay sick. so yeah outpost is where shit gets real

subtle oracle
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if it doesnt well

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fuck me ig

signal steeple
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If not then we haven't even done 1% lol

north solstice
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Has anyone seen, or they themself, put the audio from the music video through a spectrogram

subtle oracle
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which wouldve been under 55m

signal steeple
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yeah idk

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I guess we'll see as things unravel more

subtle oracle
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with very rough math

north solstice
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Final thought and I’m done for the night lol, someone ping me if something crazy happens, but watching the video again they are almost 100% at the airfield beaming* up to the ship

subtle oracle
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between 6pm and 1am est we killed a bit over 11mil uesc

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thats ab 30k a minute

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if we use that for a 24 hr period for launch day then we get like 43mil

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and if its whole percents then 40mil is 4% of 1 billion

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which imo a crazy number

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bc if we do 4% a day thats 25 days which is into april

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oh hey so rip these guys but this might be the MV exfil

subtle oracle
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terrible news bro

weary lark
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Oh no

subtle oracle
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i compiled them over 14 hrs ago

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but good looks nonetheless

weary lark
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There's also something about usecKillCount in there?

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I don't really know what I'm doing, just fussing around with Inspect

clever onyx
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is usec a reference to tarkov

timber trench
torn oyster
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Tryna find destroyed wing button, any ideas?

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Desperately need help D:

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nvm

weary lark
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Or just this channel

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
weary lark
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hmm

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Eh, this chat it is

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{"initialState":{"pages":{"cargo":{"unlocked":true,"completed":false},"index":{"unlocked":false,"completed":false},"revival":{"unlocked":false,"completed":false},"biostock":{"unlocked":false,"completed":false},"steerage":{"unlocked":false,"completed":false},"preservation":{"unlocked":false,"completed":false},"cryoHub":{"unlocked":false,"completed":false}},"shipDate":"$D2777-07-07T12:00:00.000Z","memoryUnlocked":false,"uescKillCount":62381024,"uescKillCountNextUpdateAt":"$D2026-03-07T08:46:00.119Z"},"children":["$","$L12",null,

seems like we'll be able to complete things?

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Probably open tabs in the upper left, if I had to guess

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Also the kill count thing

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62381024?

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And it updates?

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No clue what that's all about

fallow wagon
weary lark
fallow wagon
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updates every 15 mins

weary lark
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I see, thank you

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Again I don't really know anything about html I can just look for specific phrases in it

subtle oracle
weary lark
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like the terminal things?

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
torn oyster
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I know this is lore but just wanna throw this here so it doesn't get swept away. If you make it inside the Pinwheel base. Holy. Fudge. I can't let it go BUT my team and I found a 'secret' (prolly already well known) way in, which allowed us to loot everything and we found out how to unlock the command wing. If you go. Be prepared. That's all I'll say o7

zinc moat
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Do you mean going through destroyed

fallow wagon
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is it sitll possible to get a dac

drifting mulch
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can someone link the site

fallow wagon
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cryoarchive.systems

neat kernel
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Hey guys im a little confused about the arg stuff what does it do and how do I know where to start?

tough cargo
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bungie lore page has a recap

neat kernel
fallow wagon
jaunty otter
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/DAC

wicked hazel
subtle oracle
dense plume
subtle oracle
fallow wagon
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I found a place hidden in the code somewhere for authenticating with the DAC

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but I think its still locked

quick swift
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Is the terminals thing (thats now at 4%) something you need to do in game apart from finding the terminals

signal steeple
neat kernel
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are we as the community meant to uncover what happened to the marathon ship or is it explained in the contract dialogue snippets as the game progresses

mystic frost
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Both afik

subtle oracle
subtle oracle
north solstice
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Okay last hypothesis, tomorrow I’ll run it through audacity but if anyone wants to download the music video and spectrogram it now, I suspect some ARG hints/clues at 3:17, 4:44, or 5:02

subtle oracle
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oooo interesting

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spectogram is outta my wheelhouse but good idea

north solstice
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Yeah same tbh but we’ll see

hasty rain
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What do you people think about Darius' logs? It all seems really Wrkncacntrry. Something that scares an AI, something that lingers and loathes...

north solstice
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A rampant AI could scare a non rampant AI 🤔

quick swift
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🤔

hasty rain
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Maybe! But these are logs from the colony time, so Durandal still is a door-opening, non-rampant Al

torn oyster
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Bruh, y'all are wild lmao

hasty rain
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But I've shared here before my theory that the Wrkncacntr, Jjaro and Pthia were maybe ancient AI that hyper evolved into near gods

torn oyster
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The hell does that emote even mean? Never said it was bad. It's impressive

subtle oracle
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and whatever tf That is

torn oyster
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I'M NOT PERGANTE

subtle oracle
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maybe a pfhor hunter?

zinc moat
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Can't really tell anything from that spectro 🤔

subtle oracle
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That one def looks like the marathon

north solstice
subtle oracle
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yeah

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however

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did they run the audio from the camera feeds

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@north solstice

fallow wagon
sudden pollen
torn oyster
limber tinsel
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Does anyone have a rundown of everything that happened since the cryostorage cam and the first terminal séquence?

sage lark
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those Xenobiopsy codex entries are gonna go hard i can feel it

gentle barn
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anyhing new in the last 8 hours?

subtle oracle
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nah nothing on spectrographs

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i rly think its a waiting game

subtle oracle
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Its okay we're past that part

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No spectrograph on the videos and no inversion on the pics

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simply at a dead stop

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im they wouldnt make the website desktop only if we didnt need to do inspect on it

snow stag
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I was also curious if Inspect Element had anything to tell but it seems from here and the subreddit progress is halted. I suspect we will need to find the other terminals on Outpost and such before anything else happens, that inbox message said there's 3 terminal (terminal sets?) on each map

inland jasper
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I just got a voiceline from oni that said „ID confirmed as Dr. Tobias Luttero.“ anyone know anything about this? I havent read much of the lore tabs yet

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The one thing i saw near me was a dead rook with a coord pad next to it

sage lark
twin snow
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How can I redeem my Premium Pass voucher? Can someone tell me?

raven yarrow
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I learned today that MIDA is in M1

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And that Gianni Montegrano voiced Durandal in a review of M2.

shrewd ingot
sage junco
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So. All these hefty UESC troops. I just killed a Wraith Warden, the thing was a bullet sponge

it begs the question: could they not have loaded a few of these on the Marathon to begin with? The Pfhor wouldn't stand a chance

raven yarrow
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Maybe the androids were not build yet?

inland jasper
shrewd ingot
sage lark
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Could be running around and sometime it starts, i assume when people do the nucal intro quest

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Thats why I assumed its a bug

tall sorrel
digital plaza
sage junco
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like, there's an easy way to compare the health of enemies in Marathon vs Classic Marathon

shoot them with the Magnum MC and see how many shots to kill

a classic green Pfhor ~trooper~ fighter on normal difficulty was... about 4 shots?

one of the modern bullet sponge UESC troops...

vivid terrace
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Some part of my brain goes to the Triage of the cinematic with his little figurine: “you wouldn’t believe what this classic Compiler action figure is worth, even out of the box!”

inland jasper
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You can find it in world -> outpost -> collectibles :)

tall sorrel
rotund stump
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I like how we just immediately plunge into some dark shit narratively like

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apparently the compiler was saving a colonist

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and then now we're just here under corpo paydays to bash its orb in

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tau ceti's dead and we're the parasites

keen plank
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Only Arachne and Mida are more philosophical and belief-driven. Which makes them scarier in a sense. NuCaloric likes to present itself as more humanistic but they’re…a lot more dangerous than people might initially assume.

karmic wasp
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Besides the name

karmic wasp
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I still don't know what it stands for

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XD

rotund stump
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could be anything fitting the acronym

regal shell
karmic wasp
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Mida after take over the government on mars

regal shell
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inside a prestige key room

karmic wasp
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That's why they dont lasted that long

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Imagine being executed because mida thinks you are still loyal to the UEG

visual lynx
rotund stump
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mayhem inspires direct action, manufactured intelligence deserves aggression, etc

visual lynx
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MIDA Is Dumb Acronym

rotund stump
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goddamnit there's nothing that starts with p

visual lynx
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wait are MIDA anti-AI now?

rotund stump
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always been 😭

karmic wasp
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But also success

rotund stump
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trax IV's a big mental scar

karmic wasp
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Is weird

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Lmao

karmic wasp
rotund stump
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I mean