wow-general

[harsh mason]

Is there any other aura like this ?

[sour patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-piccolo-aura-aura-farming-aura-farm-gif-4796219510675252498

[onyx ferry]

My goat always aura farming before getting folded

[sour patrol]

You can aura farm and still get rolled

[fervent ibex]

Check the comments on that page

There’s a couple others

And there’s also the kyveza ?? Aura

And the new midnight delve boss rewards another

[gentle frigate]

Ngl I went to dragon isles to do some mog farming

Why was DF so much better

Something about it

[rare solar]

The areas are connected and open

Not like 3 portals stitched together

[gentle frigate]

Midnight feels like AI slop

[rare solar]

Even khaz algar was kinda eh bc tbey had all that verticality in it

And flying up sucks

[fervent ibex]

Dang you think so?

I liked TWW so much more than DF ngl

[rare solar]

I love the zones

I just dont like how theyre arranged

[fervent ibex]

I really thought it was dope how you’d fly down a mine in Dornogal to get to the ringing deeps or w.e

And hallowfall

The spider zone was generally a pain though I didn’t like it as much

Then siren isles and undermine etc being portals/boat

Meh

[rare solar]

Karesh as well yeah

[fervent ibex]

Yea

[rare solar]

I think id hate hallowfall if i wasnt engineer

[fervent ibex]

I didn’t even play s3 rly

Undermine drive system was really cool but now it’s just gone

[rare solar]

Having to either portal -> fly or fly down the shaft, do a 180 and then still fly half a zone

[rare solar]

The city was too cramped for it as the first introduction i feel like

[fervent ibex]

Ye agree

I thought for sure they’d give us drive everywhere

But nope

[rare solar]

Its similar to my issue with the verticality, it all makes sense lore wise and for worldbuilding and so on

Just doesnt feel good to play

To me

Standing in that spot in hallowfall looking at the crystal change is cool as fuck

But flying there is so ass

I only ever used dungeon TPs or wormhole

[fervent ibex]

Going to get the free bags on every character lol

All the way to the very eeeeend of the zone

[rare solar]

Or flight master from spiders and go afk to get new water

Actually thinking about it, undermine portal was fine for me

[spark raptor]

It gave me motion sickness 😦

[rare solar]

Cause it was literally right in the middle of town

[fervent ibex]

I mean the portals are usually fine

[rare solar]

Harandar and voidstorm portals kinda suck

[fervent ibex]

It’s just kinda boring

And

So many portals in this game man

[rare solar]

Too far out of the way

[fervent ibex]

It gets a bit cumbersome

[rare solar]

Thats the biggest problem yeah

[fervent ibex]

And silvermoon

I still don’t know my way around it

[rare solar]

Also with zul aman this expansion it feels shit cause its the only zone without a portal

[fervent ibex]

I only know where the target dummies and catalyst are by heart ngl

[rare solar]

Its a longer way there than to most spots in voidstorm or harandar

[fervent ibex]

Tru

[rare solar]

I only know it from the crafting area

The towers are cool and all but its not really a fun city to traverse

Dornogal was better cause the important stuff was high up and there was a big hole in the middle for the rest

Now i gotta hop over a huge row of houses every time

[remote verge]

did the aoe blind and hero talent changes not make it into 12.0.5

[hearty fog]

its not 12.0.5 yet

[remote verge]

they release the preview notes and it has all the changes for the other classes like the uh dk changes, but none of the rogue ones

[hearty fog]

where 👀

tbh wouldnt put it past blizzard to forget about us

[remote verge]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/12-0-5-ptr-development-notes-2270121

[hearty fog]

lmao yup another 0/0 to rogue

[hearty fog]

@shell hill

[zealous halo]

i clicked link

[shell hill]

!ban @vague prairie spam

[shell hill]

What was your panic sell rate

[zealous halo]

idk but i swear i saw that website before

looks like every other website !

[hearty fog]

!dr

!feint

[ionic forum]

Atrophic /Feint in Raid: > Click to Open <

[hearty fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

tried my best, best was not enough

[uncut gulch]

dang is there no document???

[random pine]

i forgot, is there a way to turn catalysted tier set item into the original one? i swear i could do that in previous expansions

[somber idol]

Nah that never was a thing

You can ask Support but i doubt that will work

[grim oyster]

Guys, I heard assa is now on par with sub in raid. Does it worth to switch?

[harsh mason]

Omw to open vault

[harsh mason]

Myth head

[halcyon lagoon]

general question - in M+ would you rather align your on use trinket with your dps CDs or use them back to back so you have more frequent dmg windows?

so lets say first pack use pot, 2nd pack use trinket, 3rd pack use cooldown. then leave both rdy for boss. or would you rather use everything first pack then have them on CD 2nd pack use them all again 3rd pack? or is it just situational regarding the threat level of the pack?

I am only running lvl 13 keys rn so maybe it changes on even higher keys since mobs live long enough to have everythign ready on each pack. but rn I find myself haveing eitehr or on CD always

[somber idol]

You use trinket with cds, thats the whole point of them

[harsh mason]

At the same time

Your trinkets give u haste if they’re the best for like sub rogues

And it makes blades last longer and sectech cds shorter

If u use them back to back you’re losing a lot of dmg

[fringe umbra]

Generally you want a trinket that lines up with your CDs by itself

[blissful lotus]

noob question - why has my damage done decreased drastically all of the sudden? im leveling an alt in legion timewalking and being 73. all of the sudden mobs hit me for 7k while i do like 15 with my autoshot

[bright otter]

scaling says hi

the higher lvl you are the less dmg you'll do

[halcyon lagoon]

I get all of that.... but for M+ specifically I find it better to have something ready in every pack, like if you line everything up, whcih makes sense to get the most dps out of that specific window, you will end up with much less DPS on teh next pack if everything is on CD. so if you use them back to back you will have something ready on every encounter.

[mellow pilot]

wet noodles wont do more dmg because of a trinket

[errant geode]

People playing both sub and assassination, do you itemize for crit/haste or crit/mastery or some sort of blend?

[mellow pilot]

Whatever items I have and then sim both specs

[ember nest]

sub is a bit weirder than assa

as you want at least 700 haste

[stray lichen]

Anyone else secretly hoping the next buff we get puts outlaw as the supreme spec

[gentle frigate]

Tbh ye

Outlaw should be the only viable m+ spec

Otherwise just delete the spec it ain’t good for anything

Remember in BFA when groups were straight griefing if they didn’t take an outlaw rogue? that’s how it should be still.

[static epoch]

no chance

[woeful geyser]

yes pls

[gentle frigate]

[stray lichen]

Outlaw should be the pve spec, sub is for pvp, and then the other spec is for

[novel cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/nobodys-coming-no-one-is-coming-no-back-up-bad-news-worried-gif-15238516

[fringe umbra]

Too busy doing big buffs for devourer

Theyre stuggling rn

[novel cipher]

I love it when blizzard releases more leather melee classes and ignores the ones that were already there

[gentle frigate]

Nah but legit

The fact outlaw isn’t top tier in m+ is a travesty

I really don’t know what they need to do to make the spec good in that content again

Because please GOD I want something to play other than subs brainless black powder spam

[paper drift]

can delves t1 drop sparks?

[mellow pilot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/sporefall-boss-in-patch-12-0-7-will-have-a-mythic-flex-difficulty-381241?utm_source=discord-webhook

[novel cipher]

The fact that outlaw is basically nowhere sucks even if I don't care for outlaws play style

[novel cipher]

Huge.

[wary hemlock]

anyone know why with the playtnator, whispyr version, i cant see my bleeds n such on certain types of enemies
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1494052654832156893/image.png?ex=69e13477&is=69dfe2f7&hm=253dbdc1d7b554c201cf0be7ef50ebe1efc40f6990174584902fe68b4aa6d411&

[mellow pilot]

minor targets

the ones usually one doesn't bother with

[wary hemlock]

ahh true

[left jay]

has anyone had trouble making the paladins spawn

lightblinded vanguard?

[wraith moat]

yeah happening to a lot of guilds from what i see

stinky

[left jay]

sigh

[gilded sorrel]

what helped us was using the skip dialogue with npc at start

[left jay]

so they patch the boss not appearing when they use the skip

now they only spawn if you use the skip

[ebon mulch]

Melees down so bad blizz releasing flex mythic to get us off the bench 🙏

[long ice]

nah just means more ranged spots

think of all the mm hunters you can bring now

[ebon mulch]

Shit

[subtle orchid]

How do Gleaming Sunmotes work? I’ve been told they unlock additional effects on the current tier set. Do I need to unlock the different versions of the tier set (LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic) in order to use those appearances for transmog?

[wary hemlock]

they should add like effects on your shoulders or head

[subtle orchid]

ah okay, so when ever i unlock a shoulder or head pice from now on. they will have a 2. transmog option with the effect ?

[wary hemlock]

i think so

as long as its the set items for this season

[subtle orchid]

got it, ty!

[scarlet berry]

Stupid question, but is there an addon that will automatically start disabling the traps in Nexus Point when you click on them?

just want to skip the dialogue box

[royal mantle]

anyone know which campaign offers the fastest dungeon queues?

[wary hemlock]

ehhh

TWW and dragonflight i guess

since most just do those to lvl

[fervent ibex]

Dungeons tend to be the slowest way to level

Just throwing it out there

[sage ledge]

What should I take?

[fervent ibex]

Raidbots.com

[rare solar]

A good amount of addons have automatic gossip, leatrix or enhanceQOL for example

[mellow pilot]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[quasi venture]

i won't die and therefore can do more damage... how losers think. if i don't stand in fire but that's...

[wary knoll]

no tuning

lmao

[shell hill]

We weren’t expecting any

[raw wedge]

Does anyone know if Grudge pit spam curios is still #1 Valera xp

I know it's nerfed, averaging 4 levels an hour

[rancid grove]

to what end

[hearty fog]

To level valeera

[grizzled lodge]

Yo. I can see all specs of rogue rn are not doing too hot but I would like to gear a rogue as an alt. Which spec of rogue feels the best to play rn. I don’t care if it id the best performing just purely fun focused

[wary knoll]

speak for yourself m8

[shell hill]

blizzard said as much in their post from february about scheduled tuning

but yeh u rite

I wasn't expecting any

[shell hill]

"fun" is pretty subjective and the 3 specs play pretty differently honestly, if you like slower gameplay and dot management, try assa. If you want a 3 button spec (but the 3 buttons are fun), then maybe sub, and if you like hitting a lot of buttons and faster gameplay with procs and stuff try outlaw

[grizzled lodge]

Is outlaw still pretty consistent damage based around up time? I know they changed it quite a bit

[hearty fog]

I too wasnt expecting any tuning

How they supposed to buff our barely existent cleave without overbuffing our ST or AOE

[shell hill]

it is basically the most flat/consistent damage you could get

there's a talent they added that makes adrenaline rush give a damage boost

which helped a little

but it's definitely not bursting anything

[grizzled lodge]

I might start with outlaw then I really enjoyed it back in s2 tww just was not sure if it changed much. Thank you kind sir

[static epoch]

next patch AR will be even more bursty apparently

cloud cover is like another 20% while it lasts, and it lasts for 20s on AR

[shell hill]

yeh trickster changes are neat

[static epoch]

yup

[mellow pilot]

It's always fun watching whispyr post here :3

[unreal gulch]

But its way too rare

[jade tulip]

I have pretty much the same question but focus on the most usefull spec for mythic raid. Guild is currently on vealgor, i joined a bit and not sure which spec to focus my gearing on. I can play all 3, currently doing mostly sub

[shell hill]

community sentiment is mostly sub, assa is better on a lot of fights but doesn't contribute to add damage

[tough swallow]

https://x.com/WarcraftMeme/status/2044627209600606404?s=20

Warcraft Memes (@WarcraftMeme)

I can't unsee a crowned alpaca in the windrunner spire 😭 #warcraft
from peachiekeenie

X · Apr 16, 2026, 4:01 AM

i can't unsee it now

[ember nest]

nice

also im so sad there is an achiev to kill capybaras

[noble kestrel]

I will never finish that achievement

[raw hill]

LOL

[ornate nest]

ehh, anyone understand from the 12.0.5 changes done to uhdk and augment, are those like nerfs or buffs or neutral changes?

Wondering if it will mix up the meta at all

[fringe umbra]

Theres almost surely going to be more notes coming before .5 goes live

Because aint no way theyre gonna buff devourer by 3-5%

[ornate nest]

Sure...

To me atleast the uhdk changes look like they wil end up being a buff too

Think those were announced when the big nerf to uhdks was going to go through, which they then cancelled

[hearty island]

i'm trying to do mage tower , which spec in ur opinion is easier ?

[hearty sapphire]

sub

[onyx ferry]

I’ve never played outlaw and I one shot that tower a few months back

[raw wedge]

Look up guides. There's a dude who usually finds items that don't scale right and make mage tower piss easy

I did it last expansion. Some old legacy items really make it nothing

[sullen igloo]

I miss the mage Tower weapons, and I love them

[mellow pilot]

Imo outlaw was the easiest

[oak tartan]

New hero spec

[fringe umbra]

Its already the best spec

No need to be even better

[fickle slate]

Yo Rogue friends, question about shroud:

If you have a priest in your group and they mind control a mob and then you wanna do a shroud skip, will the mind-controlled mob mess up the shroud skip? Or does it play nice?

[oak tartan]

Yes
No
Maybe

Pets are never good and always a 50:50

[fickle slate]

Yeah I kinda figured it could be iffy, trying to minmax dungeon routing but I've never wondered about this specific instance before lol

[still topaz]

Wow took over my life so I haven't played in a few weeks, wtf did they do to make this work?

[grave root]

Kind of hard to explain If you are out of the loop

[grave root]

Thanks

Lb can perma proc it because of distance traveled when she ports with W

[still topaz]

Oh that's fucking disgusting

So she just QR(Q)W combos and your HP is just gone huh

[grave root]

Nah just pretty much plays like a adc

Little annoying mosquito

[raw wedge]

rengar heavy breathing

[grave root]

just autoattacking

[still topaz]

Oh gross, and there's no way you can out trade her either

Well, good to know I don't have to feel bad about not playing for a couple weeks 😄

[late grotto]

such a beautiful comp this was

[whole plinth]

thanks google 🙁

[gentle frigate]

Did it in prepatch so take that with a grain of salt. But sub was really easy.

[void wasp]

Hello rogue friends - I was wondering if it’s optimal to play assa and sub or should I stick to one through the season. I know they have two different stats so I’m sort of worried about my crafted items, especially my dagger.

[mellow pilot]

stats mean so little in that regard... for sub you want around 700 haste before commiting to mastery and crit, assa works with pretty much any stats

ilvl is king most of the cases

[void wasp]

I don’t mind refarming for gear if the bis items are set for crit haste, I think what worries me is if I’ll do enough dps for raid and M+ content. Currently I’m 3.2k on sub rogue but I’d like to try the other specs. I was thinking of making a whole new rogue just for crit haste but I don’t know if that would be worth it either.

[mellow pilot]

Thats dumb af ngl

just sim your character with whatever items you have in your bag

[void wasp]

I also did that too. My sub rogue is about 96k dps and my assa is around 70k which kinda worries me. Am I supposed to be that low?

[mellow pilot]

you're not supposed to be comparing specs with your sims

it exists to tell you what items to change/upgrade

[tropic pecan]

impossible to get invited into high keys i already regret picking up this game just gonna stick to league wtf is this bs

[haughty kelp]

whats ur io

just make ur own groups tbh

[woeful geyser]

playing WoW for m+ only and then also going pug andy live is a choice for sure

[tropic pecan]

most fun part about wow dont really care about smth else

[tropic pecan]

3,2k

[ember nest]

the wow milestones

dont make friends try to pug choose the most unpopular class

triforce

but yea it is cursed over here

[chrome iron]

I hear frost mage is popular :p

[woeful geyser]

i mean, you try to play with randoms

with a non-exceptional score

on a non-meta class that has no group utility

thats like

the absolute worst combination of things you could possibly do if you really wanna play with randoms instead of getting a set group togheter

[craggy ridge]

anyone else noticed that loggerhead/combatlog toggling is buggy? sometimes i need to do it multiple times etc

[mellow flax]

hi guys. what is the best race for max sub rogue dmg in pve content?

[quasi venture]

is there much to it?

[ruby linden]

I prefer method raid tools’ combat log option personally

[rotund patrol]

ye

I'm using mrt too and had no bugs

[fervent ibex]

Pretty sure panda is the best for most classes right now, but that’s something that is constantly changing. Would highly suggest playing what you prefer over playing what’s technically “best” at the time.

[mellow pilot]

Thats what happens when they introduce a big mainstat food buff

[fervent ibex]

All races are extremely close when it comes to dps output

[mellow pilot]

"wanna double it and pass it to the next person??"
Pandas - i wanna double it and keep it!

[fervent ibex]

Actually mechagnome is technically still best for sub I think

[craggy ridge]

I disabled all addons and type /combatlog, it gets stuck often and doesnt toggle reliably. very confused

[ruby linden]

Idk about that

Mrt automatically turns it on/off when u enter instances

[fervent ibex]

That’s how close they all are

[ruby linden]

That might be a local issue

[fervent ibex]

Within like 1-2k dps type shit

[craggy ridge]

🥲

[olive grove]

Do you guys struggle to get invited to keys? I have all 15 timed and no one invite me for a 16. It's like never happened, I have been using my own key but I didnt time a 16 yet

[mellow pilot]

Yeah

pretty normal

[olive grove]

Why is that? When I do keys I do more dps than everyone (most of time)

[mellow pilot]

you're a rogue

you bring no value other than dps

[barren ledge]

it doesnt get better as u go up

[olive grove]

and whats wrong? I have shroud, I have two stun, I have blind, I can kick

[mellow pilot]

and you're pugging keys that should be done with a premade

[barren ledge]

u arent a hunter, uh dk or aug is the problem, and people in 15/16s think u need meta to complete the key

[olive grove]

17 I would understand but 15/16s are easier we dont need meta

[mellow pilot]

tell that to the meta slaves

[meager totem]

everyone else applying to the key is same ilvl, same io as you except they also bring buffs

[mellow pilot]

and tier lists

[barren ledge]

i mean wox is doing 19/20s sin is fine in there he cranks

[olive grove]

What's better for higher keys?

I have been using sub/sin

[zealous halo]

sin

until next week ..

[olive grove]

why until next week

[meager totem]

its not going live zac im dming realz right now

[zealous halo]

gl lil bro

realz doesnt work on outlaw

[meager totem]

read latest outlaw pin

[zealous halo]

i hope you find the outlaw dev

[meager totem]

maybe its stealthi

you never know

[hearty fog]

shroud isn't a mechanic anyone cares about (mind soothe is better)
you have 2 single target stuns, and one single target incap whereas every single other class has at least one aoe stun/incap

[ember nest]

aoe blind is also whatever but hey you have to explain blackjack to people

[hearty fog]

every other melee class has akick

[ember nest]

maybe you can goof someone to inv you

[hearty fog]

no one cares rogue kick locks th em out for 2 more seconds

[ember nest]

or that you can kidney for 8s

oh right i can kidney 1 random schmuck

in a 12 mob pull

[hearty fog]

yeah gl kidneying for 8 seconds

its gonna be a 1 second kidney

[ember nest]

and most big guys are immune

[hearty fog]

and you will enjoy it

[royal osprey]

can i just say rogues are doomed and have the worse utility for pve. when will they can do something for us and fix all the bugs...

we need to complain more like that classes and do shit to get this fixed lol

[ember nest]

i mean we have had like 3 chances already to get good utility

and every time it does not even survive ptr

[zealous halo]

mind soothe cant be used to shroud past eye mobs tho

shroud + distract can

shroud > mind soothe

[ember nest]

a funny one people might want to know

eye guys have more vision if you are in stealth

so sometimes it is better to literally drop stealth and walk

AHAHAHA

[jagged comet]

Guy hello I need help I go rogue for my roster and I don’t know if I go sub or assa I like two but sub is more op no because lot of boss have cleave etc and rotation is simple vs assa ?

[mellow pilot]

#wow-general message

[jagged comet]

@mellow pilot ty dude I go sub
But sub is easy to play or not

[mellow pilot]

No idea, i don't play sub

I play what i enjoy, which is assa

[hearty fog]

based

[fervent ibex]

It’s pretty easy now yeah. Compared to the past iterations.

[jagged comet]

@fervent ibex but people say sub is hard to have perfect timing for use cd en cleave add etc

[fervent ibex]

Personally I don’t see how it would be any harder than any other spec in the game in that nature but I’m not sure

I mainly just pvp, so I can’t really speak to specifics of pve, but the rotation and amount of keybinds has gotten much simpler

[halcyon lagoon]

anyone using platynator here? tried to put CP on the plates but cant find an option to change colors. any ideas?

[fervent ibex]

you can change the color in the settings of the combo point widget

[halcyon lagoon]

the widget is called "power" for me

cant find settings for it hm

[fervent ibex]

i can't remember how i changed the color now hmm

this is what my settings look like

[floral spruce]

Good morning, are the spec changes for Rogue in version 12.0.5 already simulated?

[halcyon lagoon]

same but where is the color option

[fervent ibex]

no idea ngl

could've sworn i changed it on that page at some point

[fading path]

i think im going to start gearing an alt next week with the voidcore system since i'm likely done with trying to push keys pug only
any suggestions? was thinking of either ranged dps or do a different role

[noble kestrel]

I can recommend Rogue

But also Hunter is a really fun time, Prot Pal is my favourite tank and shield go brr, if you've never played a tank. Also very thematic for this expansion esp if you go Belf.

[fading path]

please no
i already suffer enough as is

[ruby linden]

You may feel more useful as a ranged dps so I suggest not playing that

[noble kestrel]

Warlock is just a really neat time to play with 'cos of how distinct the 3 specs are and al the cool little things they get to do.

And some stellar transmog

[fading path]

i dabbled with brew a little in DF & late TWW
SL was the last time i played hunter and i liked that MM but TWW s3 MM was so wack to me with dark ranger and just hoping for procs

lock seems fun

tried demo in DF as well but just stuck to rogue/mage

maybe a revisit is in order

[tiny idol]

Which specs can run the same stats and still be somewhat competitive? As in if I go sub with haste/mast, would that work for assa as well?.

[static epoch]

yeah it works

outlaw wants zero mast tho, so that's a pain

sub/assa are pretty interchangeable with stats as long as you hit the haste threshold on Sub

[ruby linden]

You can kinda flex between sin and sub iirc but you’d just want different trinkets

Puzzlebox versus guidon I think?

[tiny idol]

Super, thank you!

[harsh mason]

Joining a group with an alt is so fucking annoying

Everyone is spamming 10s with their main with 275+ ilvl ofc nobody will take the 265 goblin

[noble kestrel]

265 isn't even low. Just gotta keep applying

[harsh mason]

Yeah i find groups eventually

[noble kestrel]

It's rough out there. A trillion DPS fighting for 3 spots.

[harsh mason]

But for hero raids and keys higher than 10 ppl have high expectation

[noble kestrel]

Yeee. For heroic raids, you can make your own group if you know the fights.

And just invite the big boys

Nobody will give a shit about your ilevel if you are doing the bare minimum to lead the group

[harsh mason]

First week people were doing 12s with their 260 ilvl characters and now they want 20 more ilvl for weaker keys

Inflation going hard

[noble kestrel]

Haha yeah

[hearty fog]

at the risk of beating the dead horse

have you tried making your own group

[harsh mason]

Takes longer to find a tank than a group

[noble kestrel]

If only rogue tank

[hearty fog]

one day

we will be useful

to a party

[steep dock]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[harsh mason]

Tbh i’m playing my hunter alt and it made me think about how rogue is actually really useful

[hearty fog]

go on

[harsh mason]

I feel like i can’t cut anything anymore

With the rogue i could deal with most of the cuts myself alone

[hearty fog]

go survival

[harsh mason]

Yeah i could try

The 3,6% dmg reduction poison is also slept on

[hearty fog]

uhuh

[harsh mason]

In my dreams i’m playing a full physical comp with my friends

Like shaman heal, warrior, rogue, dk, monk

[hearty fog]

gotta keep dreaming for that

[harsh mason]

Well we only need a shaman heal xd

[unreal gulch]

What was that one high ranked monk tank running again

Brew rdruid sin arms ele

I think

[molten mulch]

!fuu

[ionic forum]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tribal panther]

Is there a way to track interupts in a key? I used to have a weak aura for that…

[ruby linden]

Not anymore no. Group sync is disabled during instanced content so even addons that require every party member to have it may not work

[harsh mason]

Should i put my crafts in public order ?

[hearty fog]

no

[heavy bay]

does it make sense to craft a third piece of gear with 285ilvl since i only get 1 myth item a week from the vault? i can't use an embellishment, this i know, but other than that are there any downsides?

[harsh mason]

No it’s great

Do it on back or rings or necklace, replace the low ilvl ones and put better stats

[hearty fog]

that's entirely what sparks are for

honestly you can even send it on any "low ilvl piece"

[heavy bay]

Rings and neck have great stats though, so i'd rather craft a back or boots because they have vers on them

[hearty fog]

the bis lists will say send it on low budget stat items

so wrists/belt etc

but thats for embelishment purposes

sending it on legs making it go from 276 to 285

is also a big gain

[heavy bay]

i have weapon and belt already 285 with embellishment so that's fine for me

back and boots are 266 both with vers/mastery, so the gain would be huge on those too

[hearty fog]

yeah you just fill out whatever slot you need it for

[heavy bay]

alright, thank you so much

[hearty fog]

holding onto crests/sparks past week 2 is cringe

np

[static epoch]

gotta get some crests to make a thingamajig

[heavy bay]

i just wanna keep enough myth crests so i can push the item from next vault to max instantly

[static epoch]

that'd be 80 crests usually

but honestly not much point to it

[hearty fog]

yeah but like

then youre always playing a week behind

[heavy bay]

yeah sur ebut i feel like if i put all my crests into crafted gear now and next vault is giving me exactly those to choose from those crests would be wastes

so id rather keep 100 in my pocket for next vault and spend the others for crafting

i still have to catch up on myth crests anyway so i have room to farm more

[hearty fog]

worst case you take the bonus roll on vault and use it on something else

idk sitting on crests always feels like such a waste

it doesnt matter in the greater scheme of things but

who cares

i sent all my crests on a neck

then the pit of sauron neck dropped from vault

is what it is

[heavy bay]

wdym bonus roll on vault?

[hearty fog]

slight waste of crests sure, but then that's just RNG

check the 12.0.5 patch notes

tl;dr you can use your tokens from vault to get a bonus roll

[heavy bay]

aight

[hearty fog]

and its like okay sure if you sit on it this eek

are you gonna sit on another 100 next week?

you dont get interest sitting on crests

[heavy bay]

yeha i get your point. still want to keep my 100 for the next piece of gear

ty for the input though

[ruby linden]

It’s not vault tokens though, you get (purchase?) two nebulous voidcores a week, you can send it after either m+ (costs 1) or a raid boss (costs 2)

[noble kestrel]

You can buy an extra roll with 6 vault tokens, too.

[ruby linden]

Is it one roll?

[noble kestrel]

Yep

Lemme find the blurb

[ruby linden]

I must’ve missed it while skimming between pulls

Sorry for the ping!

[noble kestrel]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/buy-additional-voidforge-bonus-rolls-with-great-vault-pity-currency-in-patch-12-381254?utm_source=discord-webhook

There we go

[lucid eagle]

It’s one token I believe so enough to roll for an m+ item but not a raid item

[noble kestrel]

It was only mentioned yesterday so it's easy to miss.

[ruby linden]

Gv vault reroll gamble not bad

[noble kestrel]

Ye

[ruby linden]

Would suck to lose the gamble instead of guaranteed socket though haha

[noble kestrel]

It would but it's still like, a good extra option

[ruby linden]

Agreed

God knows I know I’d be sending it on dreamrift till I get gaze

[noble kestrel]

I hope the bonus roll system is solid and they decide to have it from the get-go or something. I like the "can't drop the same item on ubsequent bonus rolls" so you KNOW how long it's gonna take at the maximum.

[ruby linden]

Actually let me check his drops rq

Because I know he drops waist that I need as well

[noble kestrel]

tier token (chest), belt, bad trinket, good trinket

I assume it can't drop the tier token (although fuck knows maybe it can) but it means 3(4) weeks maximum to get Gaze

[ruby linden]

Yeah it’s 3/4 good for me

[noble kestrel]

The sucky situation would be if you did 3 weeks and then won it on the 4th week instead of rolling

But that's still not a bad result 'cos you'd have 2 spare rolls now

So it's kinda w/e, I like it

[ruby linden]

I don’t think I have any raid content where I’d want to send it for a reward though

[noble kestrel]

It's him and Guidon for me.

[ruby linden]

Just this

[noble kestrel]

And then Nexus rings

[ruby linden]

Why nexus rings

[noble kestrel]

I like them and good statting for sub

[ruby linden]

Gotcha. I have the crit ring, of the two

[noble kestrel]

I have both on hero so I just wanna get them both on myth

[ruby linden]

Maybe AA, MT and WS is where I’d eventually roll for box, cloak and legs

[noble kestrel]

boxspeed.

[ruby linden]

PoS seems like a very nice place for sin bc of almost everything being crit haste lol

[noble kestrel]

Also fun to spread bleeds in it

[ruby linden]

Very

Second boss feels like a worse derelict duo, but that aside I love that dungeon lol

[hearty fog]

you done goofed now bucko

it's so jover for you

prepare to get pinged when you least expect it

[ruby linden]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-belly-full-stuffed-hungry-gif-12595013

[hearty fog]

[night pier]

[halcyon lagoon]

yo gearing alts is a joke lol its never been so easy, dinged 90 yesterday got 4set today and am ilvl 250 now wtf? lol

and I didnt even play that much

[celest hawk]

i mean 10s are so easy you can just farm infinite from them if you have friends willing to carry you a little

[halcyon lagoon]

farmed coffer keys during leveling got 4 keys did all the delves on 8 - bought items from the vendor crafted 2 pieces (still one left) rest is from m+0

[meager totem]

yeah its been the same since tww

[halcyon lagoon]

never played tww

coming from DF

[celest hawk]

the worst part of alts is the levelling

[meager totem]

arguably even slightly easier then when you got a curio for aotc

[halcyon lagoon]

true leveling was a pain even with follow the arrow

but it helped alot

going to run 12s with my mates today lol

[meager totem]

the upside is the catalyst you can just send on whatever now because they also drop

before it was just one every 2 weeks

[halcyon lagoon]

ye

[brave viper]

Is there a hey maybe I’m coming back to wow what rogue spec to play channel ? Xd

Considering my research every spec is playable rn

[mellow pilot]

There isn't no, this channel might be the best approach

And for what rogue spec to play: just play the class

[brave viper]

Aight

Ty

[sour patrol]

my Grand Slam was supposed to come with sausage

(incredibly dumb reference, I know)

[unreal island]

I’m leveling a Rogue for the 1st time. Just curious how you guys approach Delves? I’ve only really played a hybrid that has a tank spec so just tank them solo. Thanks for any advice

[sour patrol]

Make her Healer
Equip Porcelain Blade Tip (Combat Curio)
Equip Mandate of Sacred Death (Utility Curio)
????
Profit

Also as a Stealth class we excel at doing objectives in Delves that aren't just "Kill % of <enemy>"

The execute from Mandate can proc on any mob in a Delve aside from the end boss, even the Ultradons and Voidscythes that can spawn from Nemesis points.

[unreal island]

Awesome man thank you. I think I’m going to start leveling him tonight

[inland gale]

Cata change best part

[cloud wharf]

It's a good thing Blizz simplified rogue, now everyone is playing it

[sour patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/xari-yugioh-card-gif-2532550703045533449

[inland gale]

They simplified every spec. Why would you swap when yours is also easier and you were already playing it

They need to just over buff it for a season or two

Have all 3 yellow bars at the top of wcl and let people filter over cause they wanna be op

And maybe some stick around

[cloud wharf]

I think that rogue just has a niche of players that like it, I feel like I run into a surprising amount of rogues that instead of playing other classes, just have alt rogues

[inland gale]

Actually so true

Very dedicated but small base

[meager totem]

yeah tony doesnt even play it and posts here

feral mains smh

[inland gale]

I have only raided on rogue this tier and it has higher io but somehow my feral ilvl is like 3 higher

[olive grove]

rogue in a nutshell

I have 3338 io btw

[obsidian river]

Is there a Interrupt not ready cast bar color Plater mod that changes the cast bar color when my kick is up that works right now? If anyone knows would be big help

[meager totem]

jundies plater has something similar to that

shows on the cast bar when your kick is coming off cd

[obsidian river]

hmm i see might have to switch profiles if its built in already

there is a wagio mod that used to work last expac but doesnt now unfortunately

[inland gale]

Ryler never laughs at my jokes

[sour patrol]

Don't feel bad

We don't either

[mellow pilot]

you're also pugging

[cold grove]

!up

[ionic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[wet grove]

Are there any addons that function similarly to the old GTFO that played an alarm sound if ya stood in poop or took dmg from avoidable stuff?

[regal cargo]

does 2 enchants for primary stat on both weapons s tack ? :

or you need 2 different

[leaden parcel]

I’m at the same level, same experience with lfg. Wish it were easier to find/form a team

[fringe umbra]

yes

[idle cipher]

Can i change boss HP do be shown as % without addon?

[mellow pilot]

pretty sure

probably this?

[idle cipher]

Thats it i guess. I really dont know how i didnt find this

[plucky sparrow]

Hello, when should I vanish Lens Flare on last boss in Skyreach? Before the cast or during a channel?

[valid tiger]

Heyo, so it seems I used the wrong chat yesterday.
Any addons you fellow rogues cannot live without?

[chilly wagon]

when you have the red arrow on you, before it starts channeling

[plucky sparrow]

thank you

[steep dock]

!ui

[ionic forum]

Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides

[harsh mason]

Spamming low keys to farm hero crests is so annoying

Does someone know a better way ?

[fervent ibex]

EllesmereUI is a really good all in one package addon. Or Platynator+AyijeCDM

[rare solar]

Spam high keys to farm myth crests

And then once u cap

You get hero crests

[harsh mason]

brother what

I’m at 260/500 myth 260/500 hero

[mellow pilot]

basically once you cap out a crest type, the same key level starts awarding the lower variant

[harsh mason]

I’m not doing that xd

[mellow pilot]

and yeah im having the same issue

i just do bountiful delves

15hero per bountiful

[onyx ferry]

I’ve done more delves today than I have all season

[dreamy quail]

hi guys, just a quick question, who's the best in raid ATM ? Sub or Assa ?

[mellow pilot]

Depends

both are really good

[dreamy quail]

I'm actually playing sub

but i saw in high key assa is better

(Generally assa have like 200 elo more than sub player)

so i don't rly know what's the best atm

[mellow pilot]

Are you playing in a key level where it matters?

If yes, people are switching a lot to assa in really high keys

[dreamy quail]

ye i push a lot

i guess i'll keep farming a assa build for key and keep my sub build for raid

best thing i can do ngl

[proven olive]

is there a way to sim an item I dont have?

[mellow pilot]

yes

in top gear

[proven olive]

oh! alright cool, thanks

[noble kayak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385722696998060136/1494105808173269174/copy_BDD65D9C-5FA7-4E57-A86F-2C4EBB3964C5.gif

[grand atlas]

Anyone else getting absolutely unplayable amounts of lag in pit of sauron?

[compact silo]

what do we think best spec for high keys is gonna be after tuesday

[hearty fog]

Aug

[compact silo]

rogue spec!

[fiery coyote]

Outlaw baby

[noble kestrel]

Sub, sub sub sub, suuuub

[ember nest]

outlaw and sub have a pseudo cheat code now when they pop their offensive cd they also get 15% dr big

[lost surge]

Do we already know how the top 1% mythic+ mount will look like?

[harsh mason]

There is no keystone myth mount i think

U get the timelost saddle to buy master and legend mounts from previous seasons

Ohhh nvm you're talking about umbral champion

[hearty fog]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-achievements-and-rewards-coming-to-mythic-in-patch-12-0-5-381231

uncorrect

[harsh mason]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bonus-rolls-are-returning-in-patch-12-0-5-with-knockout-system-380757

Do we know how rare these things will be ?

And how many upgraded 298 items we can carry

1 weapon 2 trinkets ?

[clear oak]

Yo yo, hello everyone, i got a question, i am now leveling my rogue and it's my first time playing it, what spec is best for M+ and Raiding ? Not sure if i want Sub or Assassin, tbh Sub looks like a lot of fun

[mellow pilot]

~then play sub

[clear oak]

but is it worse then the others ?

[mellow pilot]

nop

[hearty fog]

playing whatever you enjoy the most will be the best spec

[glad onyx]

You can try both!

I swap between assa and sub in raid, but play assa in keys

[shut spade]

Do we know if we can use all of our bonus roll tokens at the same time?

I kinda want to hold mine until we kill crown as long as im not holding on any crests

[ruby linden]

I think you'd theoretically just be able to claim it once a week on the kill so it would be pointless

Bc of lockout

[harsh mason]

I’m more curious about how rare it will be

Because we’re obviously not going to have enough to be full myth in 2 weeks

[shut spade]

You get 2 a week. 3 if you pick one from the vault

[harsh mason]

Damn that's a lot ?

That means from now on we'll have 3 myth pieces per week without doing mythic raid ?

[shut spade]

Yeah

But that doesnt mean much

You are still crest bound

You will be defacto 2/6 myth by that point anyway just from the heroic crests and gear from m+

[harsh mason]

True

But it still means that we’ll get the full myth gear quite fast

Even if the pieces are in the bag until upgraded

[jade kindle]

hey is it easy to understand classic rogue or difficult? I want to pick up rogue if it is easy

[mellow pilot]

if anything in classic is hard i'd shoot my foot

[jade kindle]

Also, I am prefer using a controller, not keyboard, and I have never played wow before. I just want to go invis, and attack people lower level while they are questing

[mellow pilot]

a dickhead i see

yeah rogue's the class for you

also, this discord is mainly a retail server, i'd advice you to join simonizeshow discord, its focused on classic era

want a link?

[jade kindle]

I am just going to support the game. You guys dont want the servers to shut down do you?

[mellow pilot]

idk, maybe

[jade kindle]

yes thank you

[mellow pilot]

https://discord.gg/dBEMPVN2

he also has a youtube channel

really good content

[jade kindle]

thanks for the sugestions

[jagged comet]

HEY guy's you know if some oen sims 12.0.5 ?

[mellow pilot]

What now

[jagged comet]

For see if sub is good with buff 12.0.5

[mellow pilot]

did you read the pins

in the sub channel?

Theres a specific channel for each spec

[jagged comet]

yes yes but i just want to kjnow if we have sims in pre patch serveru

[mellow pilot]

i dont think they are helpful but if there are any, they are in #subtlety

[tough swallow]

subtlety gets a ~ 5-6% buff, outlaw a bit more

[mellow pilot]

Does that make sub get way ahead of sin? haven't been studying on the subject since i only play assa

[tough swallow]

i wouldn't say way ahead

[jagged comet]

assa is best of sub after buff 12.0.5 you thinsk ?

[tough swallow]

its like

kinda like this

subtlety moves from slightly behind to slightly ahead

[sour panther]

The outlaw buff is like 10%

Or more

[jagged cradle]

ho talks spanish ???

[mellow pilot]

Many people

[jagged comet]

ok i go sub ^^

[idle cipher]

Are there actually addons that kinda track and guide my rotation? I dont want smth to tell me what to press when, more like smth that says "you did it wrong"

[idle cipher]

Like logging, without analyzing my self..kinda

[mellow pilot]

i dont think so

[ionic cosmos]

is there a way to dodge the kidnapping in last boss in skyreach?

[jagged comet]

Ok sub adn assa this same dps after buff sub like 10-15k diff not a bigg diff right ?

[sour panther]

You can shadowstep at the end of it

Thats about it

[mellow pilot]

Brother, it depends on the fights

[tough swallow]

as noted above, the diffrence is not that big. If you prefere assassiantion play it

[jagged comet]

ok ty i prefere assa gameplay sub 3 touch is eazy but i sleep when i play it

[tough swallow]

you could try outlaw, it looks quite good for the next patch

[modest karma]

Hey, i can decently play both outlaw and assa but i never know which to play on each boss ? (i'm not an expert but i know the rotations)

[mellow pilot]

If you want to min max go to warcraftlogs

And see what the top rogue kills are overall using

[gentle frigate]

anyone else prefer the old character login screens

over the campsite

[bright otter]

nah

love to see my chars like that

[steep dock]

idk, im looking at my 2 monitor

[modest karma]

maybe a stupid question, if i keep my deathmark+potion macro in my bars on other specs and press it, it will still use the potion right ?

[delicate shoal]

Can you spam LFR even when already cleared a wing to loot Elementary Voidcores?µ

[regal cargo]

does anyone know the sources of manaflux

after you have 4 set

raid dungeons and what else?

[noble kestrel]

Raid, M+, PvP (rated, unsure on non-rated), bountiful delves.

[regal cargo]

thanksl !

[woeful geyser]

you can just use them you know

[gentle frigate]

Ye I do I was just wondering if others liked them

I don’t mind the campsite it just I can only fit 4 and the 4th one cuts off

[mellow pilot]

does it?

[gentle frigate]

Yo is that a paladin set?

Damn that looks hot

[mellow pilot]

yeah thats... TWW s2 (?) set, normal mode

[gentle frigate]

One thing I’ll give blizzard credit for their art teams always drop bangers

[mellow pilot]

This season paladin tier is even better imho

[gentle frigate]

I’m gonna level my paladin when turbulent time ways comes

I haven’t played them since mop lmao

[mellow pilot]

You'll probably have a blast, its really simple and easy

[steel nova]

Wait so raid bosses still parry from the front?

[fringe umbra]

Yes

Unless you are playing trickster

[tired dragon]

Is there any tool to remove slows? Like the chains in Seat of The Triumvirate, for example

[fringe umbra]

Vanish

(and cloak obv)

[tired dragon]

Cloak is the silver bullet haha

Only vanish then, ok ty 🙂

[fringe umbra]

You can spec into slows having a shorter duration in the class tree

Which isnt quite the same thing, but hey

[tired dragon]

Priest for example can remove snares on a 20sec cd with fade, is very good for things like this

[rare solar]

gnome can remove on a 1min cd

[woeful geyser]

didnt they remove that

[wild lantern]

So sub rogue likely surpasses assass in m+ next reset right?

[fervent ibex]

Realistically they’re all close enough to just play whatever you like

[gentle frigate]

Ngl I’m struggling to pick a main

[glad ivy]

same lol

[fringe umbra]

No, they removed it being raidwide

[chrome arrow]

uhhhhhhh

oh i got it

rogue

[steep dock]

Bard

[chrome arrow]

im feeling daring today
outlaw rogue

[steep dock]

Whats that

[chrome arrow]

it's like combat but not

[brisk vector]

it's the scary spec where you have to press a button every second

[brisk juniper]

is there any route as fresh 80?

[mellow pilot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1bmMD2Fi2A saw this a few days ago, no idea if it can help you

[brisk juniper]

will take a look

[torn pagoda]

Rogue/DH main looking for a guild that raids and does M+. Pref raiding on weekends(doesnt matter what time).

[hearty fog]

not the right discord for this. you're looking for a recruitment discord

you've also not specified a region or timezone

but i'm going to go out on a limb and assume america

@fervent ibex does it count if i say it?

[long ice]

new PB on mulch + green thumb gather

[harsh mason]

Someone in my group had an addon that wrote a message saying « x: no flask x: no food » when ppl put ready

Do you guys know the name ?

[gentle frigate]

Wait

So for the tier 2 recolors

We can’t even target the specific set we want?

[still topaz]

What the actual fuck, I didn't even know x30 was possible

[willow raptor]

Does the blackjack debuff apply to enemies that can’t be blinded?

[fringe umbra]

No

The enemy needs to have been blinded or sapped for it to apply

[gentle frigate]

hmm I still have an 80 boost shaman or druid

[frigid plume]

probably one of the raid tools addons like method raid tools or northern sky

[main solar]

What's the deal here? Says the 2nd boss of Skyreach beam is both feintable and not feintable. Solar infusion says feintable but Light ray is not. Those are both the same ability?

[fringe umbra]

Solar infusion is when they reach the boss no?

[main solar]

I dunno

Yeah I think you are right. Wowhead just has this wrong?

dungeon journal says otherwise

Makes sense. thanks.

[terse torrent]

Is that the rank 3 mulch?

[long ice]

just 1

[terse torrent]

Huge

[long ice]

rank 1 mulch green thumb on a lush node

[terse torrent]

I just spam rank 2 for the flask herb

[long ice]

ah I've been spending points to get the increased lotus drop from herbs instead of r2 mulch

and stack perception

[terse torrent]

Which tree was that?

[long ice]

Bountiful Harvests

first tab

[sand karma]

tools on tank macro? (I know there is a bot that has it, but idk how to call it)

[fringe umbra]

!tricks

[ionic forum]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[sand karma]

tysm ❤️

[tacit sparrow]

Is weapon my prio craft for m+ if i dont raid?

[mellow pilot]

Yes

even if you did raid

[graceful maple]

heya all, next week is only reroll - the 298 ilvl boost is later down right?

[torpid harness]

12.0.5 (Tuesday or Wednesday patchnotes):

[harsh yew]

It literally says he will need further assistance before we can do that in your post

[ruby linden]

Lowkey it could just be some npc quests, we’re not sure right

[harsh mason]

Transmuted crests count towards the cap ?

Like turning champions into hero

Or buying hero ones with myth ones

[ruby linden]

Yes

[hearty fog]

Yes

[ruby linden]

The only source of uncapped crests now is delve nemesis first time clear

[harsh mason]

And if i’m already at the cap in hero crests does it not work ?

[ruby linden]

(Used to be nightmare prey quest for 20 hero crests a week also but they nerfed it and it caps now )

[ruby linden]

It won’t let you use it if you are capped or if you will receive beyond cap

[harsh mason]

Alright ty guys

My alt is now 274 and my « main » 273

My alt can’t go higher for this week

I just have to farm the crests on the rogue now

I think my main can get to 278 this week

[ruby linden]

Nice

I’m just praying for alnseer in gv otherwise I’ll be so sad

[harsh mason]

This trinket is the holy grail

Is it ever good to craft 4 pieces ?

Like i still have 2 sparks

Is there really any downside to using them to craft a new cloak

[ruby linden]

We have voidsphere shit next reset, so potentially two myth track gear I think? Worth not crafting now

[harsh mason]

True

[pseudo idol]

what spec loooks for m+ in 12.0.5? outalw?

[terse torrent]

All 3 look pretty good

[pseudo idol]

damn hmmmm hard to decide, probably ass

[upper veldt]

yeah shake dat ass

[south lichen]

Stupid question could I get away with just not playing sub? Do sin and outlaw both have a place in raids and m+?

[noble kestrel]

If you don't want to play Sub, don't play it. You can get by with Assa and Outlaw, absolutely. It will depend on the level you want to play, but you should just play what you personally enjoy.

[tight edge]

i havent used a single housing item from midnight yet, soon have to make a second mule

i refuse housing!

[noble kestrel]

I don't understand why but I support this level of dedication to it

[tight edge]

idk, was just a fun thing, i wanted to see how much stuff they throw at you

[noble kestrel]

Haha, that's cool

I do wish we could vendor them 'cos, uh, hooboy do I have a lot of junk from delves

[tight edge]

yea

[tough swallow]

i hoped that we could trade them

[noble kestrel]

Lemme vendor them for marlvins

[ornate nest]

Anyone here use Archon to record runs? Having a problem that abandoned runs are not being recorded, or it sorta doesnt stop and video never appears

m+ runs to be spesific

[rare solar]

my take would be that you get the first one collected like with transmog, the rest you use just give you as much voidmarl as it would cost to buy that duplicate

and then u buy duplicates to put down via the catalogue

[torpid harness]

Bro that's literally what it says yeah

[tribal compass]

Its a quest we are going to get on reset

that unlock it

[torpid harness]

I think that's literally what it says

Or is it figuratively

[tribal compass]

just making fun of the rogue iq

It literally says he will need further assistance before we can do that in your post

[mellow pilot]

[halcyon lagoon]

are voidforged crafted weapons bis now?

[ember nest]

not really you can use the core also on normal mythic weapons

and they go like the normal ones also to a higher ilvl

[halcyon lagoon]

oh so 298 is not the highest?

[blazing prism]

298 is the highest. Crafted weapons do not go to 298 tho. Only 295(or 294?)

[tough swallow]

you ideally have a mythic item level weapon upgraded after patch

but crafted weapon upgrade is also fine

only rly want your main hand weapon tho

offhand is whatever

[halcyon lagoon]

oh I thought you can push a crafted weapon to 298, mb then

[tough swallow]

its one upgrade rank lower

294

[halcyon lagoon]

yeah its +9 I just figured it out thanks

and it works on any trinket or crafted trinket?

[ember nest]

has to be full hero or mythic track or crafted item at highest qual

[halcyon lagoon]

ah

got it

[tough swallow]

any fully upgraded trinekt on hero or mythic track (or weapon)

[left fiber]

we can only do a voidforged weapon/trinket per week right?

[meager totem]

we dont know

it might take multiple weeks for one upgrade even

[fringe umbra]

But i think its fair to assume we wont get 4x of them immediately on reset

[spare steeple]

theres a quest that starts tomorrow, beyond that I dont think anyone knows.

[main orbit]

From what I know we don’t have upgrades Tomorrow it’s only the extra Roll - Upgrade Quest will be Released Tomorrow maybe 1-2 weeks ?

[spare steeple]

anyone use arcui?

Trying to get the combo points to go red at 6, having some trouble

nm i got it

[onyx ferry]

I’m going to get a myth track dagger in vault. I can feel it

[halcyon lagoon]

the good thing is, for a myth guidon you can prolly pug the boss even 🙂

[sour panther]

Btw upgraded crafted wep with embellishment might be better than upgraded myth wep and using another embellishment

[halcyon lagoon]

thats what I thought, that embelished weapon might be better than any +4ilvl one

also myth weapons pretty hard to get if you dont have a proper guild

[fringe umbra]

You can upgrade your crafted weapons too

[meager totem]

well pugging 2nd boss is still not that hard just not as free as first

[sour panther]

Thats what i meant yea

294 crafted might be better than 298 mythic

Because ur embellishment gains 9 ilvl and its also a better embellishment

[fringe umbra]

But we are already using crafted dagger in offhand?

Because offhand is the least impactful ilvl upgrade its the best place to lose ilvl, on top of that hunt is one of the strongest embellishments

[sour panther]

Thats what i mean

Instead of double 298

[noble kestrel]

I don't believe embellishments scale with iLevel?

[fringe umbra]

They do, very marginally

[noble kestrel]

Ah

[fringe umbra]

They didnt in tww

Or well, most didnt

[noble kestrel]

Yeah, I recalled that. I haven't noticed the dif in Midnight, haha

[fringe umbra]

I doubt blizzard even knows what theyre doing with embellishments anymore

[sour panther]

Embellishments are kinda weird because there's always a best one

For everything

Atleast whenever I play there's no options

[main solar]

Oh is it on the ptr now? How do we know what the upgrades are?

[gentle frigate]

So is outlaw OP next patch

Or should I abandon rogue altogether this XP

[mellow pilot]

Probably should have long ago

[halcyon lagoon]

[worthy flume]

Hey what’s the process of getting Masquerade of the Grim Jest? Returning player here

[tough swallow]

same as the last time he did the statistic

[fiery coyote]

tier gear either drops from the raid or you use the Catalyst to convert any chest/legs/helm/shoulders/gloves into a tier item

98% of people get their tier through catalyzing items

you get a catalyst charge every 2 weeks https://www.wowhead.com/guide/midnight/matrix-catalyst-crafting-tier-set

one you have your 4-set bonus equipped then doing keys and such has a chance to give you another catalyst charge. So you don't have to worry about saving the catalyst for a mythic track item. You can blow them immediately to get tier and then farm up more later

[halcyon lagoon]

wonder why it even drops and they aint just going with the catalyst. my 1st alt had 4 set as soon as he was 90 lol

[fiery coyote]

oh, tier gear can also come from the weekly vault

[mellow pilot]

I got my 4set achiev, the literal next m+ I did gave me another catalyst, after that I've done all the bountiful delves, 3/4 m10s daily and normal + HC raid and I haven't seen a second charge yet. I might be unlucky

[worthy flume]

Thanks man. So set pieces can be obtained without raiding? I’ve mainly just done PvP up to now

[fiery coyote]

yes, i have not had any tier drop from raid

[halcyon lagoon]

every time a higher ilvl piece of the set slots dropped for me I got a charge with it

[young edge]

[halcyon lagoon]

maybe there is something behind this or I was just rly lucky

[fiery coyote]

[halcyon lagoon]

like you wear champ set piece and hero drops for the same slot you can immedtiately swap it with the charge that dropped

[mellow pilot]

Your lucky, I have hero pieces in my bag waiting for cata charges xD

[halcyon lagoon]

ok then I was extremely lucky

happend twice xD

[mellow pilot]

I have gloves and head literally 6/6, just waiting for a catacharge to swap

[halcyon lagoon]

damn

[mellow pilot]

Soon, gotta believe

[worthy flume]

Ok cool. Also it says players will receive a manaflux at the start of the season. Because I only renewed sub a week or so ago, I take it I’ve missed that? And will now have to wait the 2 weeks?

[fiery coyote]

i believe you will get a free one and then the ones you missed will just start dropping from doing stuff, until you are caught up

that's how the crafting sparks also work, which is a two week thing

[worthy flume]

Oh hmm I definitely haven’t gotten a free one yet so maybe I just have to wait. Are they given as a reward from a quest?

[mellow pilot]

If manaflux is the cata charge, it's already there

[shut olive]

does anyone know how do i deactivate those heal/damage numbers?

[fiery coyote]

go to the character tab > currency, it should show the catalyst charges you have

as Dawnlight Manaflux

[mellow pilot]

If by say week 5 there are 3 charges, a freshly leveled alt at week 5 will have 3 charges already

At the moment every single character have access to 3(?) guaranteed cata charges just by existing

I know because I Tmog a lot

[worthy flume]

As in they can drop from anything?

[mellow pilot]

No

[worthy flume]

As in bosses, PvP caches etc?

[mellow pilot]

They they are already in your possession

[meager totem]

they are just a currency you get passively

you can even see them on lvl 80 chars

Im guessing you cant use them on anything 😛

[worthy flume]

Oh. I haven’t got one yet

[mellow pilot]

The passive ones that generate every 2 weeks are already in your inventory

(currency inventory)

Currency tab***

[worthy flume]

I’ll check it out once im logged in

[spare steeple]

after patch what are people thinking will be the best "all rounder" spec?

my feelcraft says sub?

[fiery coyote]

outlaw baby

[spare steeple]

You fucking with me? lol

[woeful geyser]

outlaw players are overdosing on hopium once again

[spare steeple]

Solo wouldnt lead me wrong

@crude pilot what say you sir? lol

[meager totem]

its possible yes but lets wait for like 8h and see if blizz sends some last minute changes to the notes

because some of them are very egregious

[crude pilot]

Outlaw or sub

[spare steeple]

either one maybe taking an edge you think. Im a bit torn between the two

[crude pilot]

I think outlaw will just be better overall

But u kinda need to be able to play the spec properly

[spare steeple]

i do ok

for a 46 year old

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

[crude pilot]

LOl

Yeah that's probs fine

Just like, ppl expect to swap to outlaw and just do well. Do mid and say spec sux

If uve played it though and understand it, it's gonna be nuts

[jade tulip]

hii, just wondering if anyone else has performance issues in raids, mostly on Vealgor during the adds spawn etc. Im using ToxiUI which is using ElvUI and was wondering if this is the cause? Its not so easy to test for me as i do need the ui during raid, but maybe some have a similar experience?

[spare steeple]

Im just stoked I can finally put my weapons on my back. Been suggesting that every beta since cat

[marsh wagon]

as somebody who switched to rogue from monk this tier, def looking to have this back

[spare steeple]

transmog is the true endgame

[marsh wagon]

ilvl is temporary, transmog is forever

[spare steeple]

now if they give me upright undead, i can die happy

[topaz osprey]

so which rogue specs lookin the best for 12.05

[spare steeple]

seems like outlaw or sub, mostly personal preference. Outlaw has a slight advantage but is more difficult to play correctly

[gentle frigate]

I thought outlaw was just press the shiny button

Since when is it hard

[spare steeple]

compared to sub

[gentle frigate]

Oh well

[gentle frigate]

I’m just glad I’m not forced into sub anymore

What they did with that spec is a crime

[sour panther]

I mean sub is the easiest rogue spec by far rn

Its so dumb

[fringe umbra]

"by far"

Assa is literally just keep your dots up

[novel pewter]

Hey now, there's like 0.4% extra damage for maximizing implacable. Don't sell em short.

[sour panther]

Vs sub keeping what up

Assa def harder

People struggle with dots

[fringe umbra]

Idk

[sour panther]

I mean just compare the opener

[novel pewter]

It's keeping up two 30s buffs with a 9s pandemic. That's about as forgiving as it gets.

[sour panther]

Sub opener is shadowstrike, press macro, storm, black powder

[tough swallow]

keeping track of your dots is difficult for many