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With vanish yes
pricy
and if its a magic effect, cloak works aswell
theres two right? the gargoyles in pit and the miniboss in maisara
i dunno if either is magic
I don't understand why but every time i press tricks of the trade, it never works? nothing happens
anyone experienced this?
you are targeting somebody, right?
You gotta hit somehting
could be neural silencer
Doesnt' seem to be that
So apparently it's working but for some reason the ability doesn't go on cooldown. But it's working. Thank you both!
regarding the weekly sparks to make tier set pieces, is it not guarenteed to get one each week? ive completed 2/3 of the weekly quests which have a "chance" of dropping it but havjt got it yet, getting worried...
Sparks do not make tiersets
The catalyst, which you use for tiersets give you one charge every other week
damn, so I made a mistake not making a tierset piece when this expansion first dropped
I did my first now, I cant get a second one for awhile now?
I don't think that was a mistake
You dont use sparks to create tier pieces
dont think he meant actual sparks
hes referring to the lil catalyst things u get one of every 2 weeks
@remote nexus u should get one on tuesday for free, however that being said the faster you unlock 4 piece set the better because you start getting them dropped from raid bosses delves and mythic+ and you can turn better gear pieces as you gain them into better raid pieces if that makes sense
or you can reach 1600 rating in pvp or 2k rating in mythic+ whichever is easier for you
They should bring this back for rogue mog
I have noticed since the launch of midnight, a good amount of interactions have been changed and "can't do while flying" has been popping up a lot. I can't stealth while flying.... even if just barely off the ground. Anyone have any tips or ideas? Is it an interaction on/off in interface I am missing?
Yeah I was mainly there for vision of sargeras and daggers, but it dropped, and then I'm like wondering do I really farm the offhand if all it's for is running around in a city looking cool lol, meh
Really enjoying how it's impossible to do M+ if you didn't no life keys at the beginning of the week
Ask your guildies to help you push a key
Its the same every season, if you fall behind, youre behind.
I'm technically not behind, I just don't have score because I was raiding at the beginning of the week
welcome to pugging as a dps with low utility
if you have a tank/heal friend it all goes away dont even have to push your own key
even if you had every 10 timed id still be a slight struggle unless youre also 270 ilvl
yeah everyone and their monkey has 10 timed
With the dagger upgraded, are we supposed to upgrade our belt too?
thunderous-drums works?
does anybody know what pikas weapons are here?
legion artifact appareance
make sure this setting is checked, i know its been a few hours but hoping this helps
Hey there! I notice that I'm a bit hesitant to upgrade my gear / spend the crests. I got the 259 tier gloves from the vault (hero path) and since I'll probably never raid mythic I'm wondering if I should upgrade them
any advice? greatly appreciated!
Get yourself some 266 hands out of any +10 dungeon & then upgrad your hands. You can save some crests and then upgrade with your hero crests for efficent way to 276
or worst case atleast upgrade champ track to 263
if you cant be bothered to minmax every 20 crest
thanks a bunch!
Yeah, in like 2-3 weeks hero crests will likely to be irrelevant
So try to be a lil efficent but if you dont raid on high Mythic it doesnt matter that much on hero crests
Nah, I'm hesitant to even try the normal raid - mostly doing Delves, Preys and PvP at the moment! Mythic is far away
Guys what is skill in alchemy actually used for? It says it is used to determine the quality, but there are only two levels of quality and the highest quality requires concentration to craft, so I don't understand the point of getting skill?
multicraft, getting 6 instead of 2 flasks is pog as fck
Yeah I've already maxed all multicraft specialisation but now I had to choose basically between more skill or going for ingenuity, I've gone for ingenuity now because the only profit I'm making atm is through concentration crafts
what spec, should I, as a noob fresh level 80(?) rogue main
outlaw/assassination/sub, in no specific order
!up
Seat prison is good prison 
our paladin is 28 runs into it
stay strong
What are you after?
Big hands

Nullaeus auto attacks really outdps any Vallera heal, jfc.
skyreach is my best friend currently
but i still need like 7 or 8 gear slots after 50+ keys in total
loot feels scewed this season
Share this with your LFGs 😂
avenger's shield doesn't interrupt 3 targets
it only interrupts the primary target
Where does it say it interrupts three targets?
Ye wowwiki, wowpedia or whatever it is hasnt been updated
Am I blind?
The school lockouts are incorrect
Oh right, comment
ye
A relic of the old times lol
Sir this is a Rogue Discord
These cats man

Warrior cat
I've been looking in trade chat for 3 days
Thats unfortunate, this isnt the place to look for a crafter though.
?? why not, the rogue discord isnt the place to get help with rogue crafts??

The best way to get yourself sorted with crafts is either findint them through guild, your servers trade chat or other discords. This just isnt one of them.
If nobody is replying to you in trade chat, try making an opposite faction character to ask there. might be that nobody is about on your realms faction.
Should I use Hero crests to craft my second embellish?

Is there a spec that feels decent right now? lol everything I try feels so bad
rogue or overall?
rogue haha
Sub feels good IF you understand you do wet noodles dmg outside of shadowdance
Assa feels good because you can rest between mutilates
I call it optimal posting time.
mazel tov
no
i ordered migas for breakfast
Is there way to force the breath angle during ph2 in Dreamrift?
for people that have gotten dawnlight manaflux to drop in delves, was it from the bountiful chest or one of the regular/nemesis/banner ones?
fuck that
do we get another catalyst next reset?
yes
bountiful
for me
ive only gotten one from delves though
ah kinda figured that'd be the case, ty king
i havent done many delves this week since they decided to cap it at 4 on the extra delve week for some reason

I got one from something today, it might've been delves. I hope this helps!
it might've been a Prey bag..
I didn't get it from the keys I ran today as I didn't have one then. But I did some world content, prey and delves this afternoon and had it after that so.. something there.
I'll have to keep an eye out tuesday when I do my bountiful rush
0 set adventures
there was 1 item from the raid i could roll on this week
worst rng eu
I've had some real shit luck with loot this week, it's crazy
Done like two dozen keys, I got 3 items.
1 was slightly worse than what I had, 1 I was able to get from someone else, and the last was actually nice.
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7/7 LFR bosses dropped 0 tier for me this week lol I feel ya
W
I'm looking for the raid compositions of each boss kill from RWF. Is there a site somewhere that has that info?
Just boosted a rogue on TBC what should be my main priority? New gear? Honor? And what's the best way to approach that. I'm not a new player just a dad tired of rerolling at 35 so I figured a boost might help me commit to a toon lol
Is there a way to get ilevel / io popping back up when you hover over someones class icon in details?
what spec is the best for levelling right now?
yeah
sub is best for levelling
flat cd on sdance means you only ever have max of 20 seconds of downtime
For vanguards what do we think best rogue spec profile is rn?
bench
!sheet
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
is there any bis sheet for sub ?
whatever is on the fuu sheet probably
but really your bis is
get haste to 700ish +-
acquire mastery
if cant acquire mastery, acquire crit
which prepot is better for u the secondary stat one or the main stat
All of that is answered in the wowhead guide tbf
can we get petition to fire rogue dev? no buffs? is this for real?
You could start one, noone would lose his job
There are no dedicated class devs
Wouldn’t that also exacerbate the issue
If there wouldnt be a new one if the non existing one would get fired
Realistically they’d downsize or lay off more than hire/replace
At the end of the day, there are no dedicated class devs and balancing across specs/classes also kinda isnt a class devs job
yeah it's actual monkey thought "lets make the situation even worse by getting rid of our potentially single dev and make it 0"
Give it 1 more year and Claude will do class balance for Blizzard
If that'd make it better, I'd not be against it
Imagine claude just like remove rogue from the game
Most people wouldn't notice
there is always housing and battle pets
We shine in those fields... Right?
well after sublety got their talents nerfed in pvp by like 66% and like 50% or so
kinda
might still be good im not on top of the changes
battle pet remove for midnight btw
there is always housing
"only"


Chiefs, how do you manage big pulls that have like 2 or 3 mobs that need interrupting? I feel like blizz broke nameplate stacking this expansion, even if I have the stacking toggle turned on they still are so tightly grouped together it’s very hard to click through a bigger pull and interrupt accordingly. Is this an addon thing or is it broken from the game’s foundation?
The important casts are flashing, but I usually focus a kick target before I start doing damage
What’s the best rogue spec for m+ now ? since its a week out now
i saw the question before and the last time it was said that its to early to say
The non rogue
If you have to ask then it's not important.
Play what you want.
yeah i see
rogues are considered as b tier and i was wondering cause i still see gamers
but not everyone is sub so i was just asking
i wanna play smth cool thats rewarding with damage against other ppl that can catch up
no offense
Tier lists
Fantastic metric
Rogues are good doing some things
Other classes are good doing everything rogue does but better
And since they refuse to buff the class DMG numbers, we're in a shitty place
The main problem is that we don't provide anything but DMG to a fight
So we should at least provide really good DMG since we're sacrificing group utility
Yet there are some specs that have more utility AND damage than us
We aren't bad per say
lack of utility like ccs or
We just ain't a dk or a druid or a mm hunter
cause we got some kicks or not
1 kick 1 AoE blind
And kidney shot if you want to count that too
Or sacrificing DMG as a sub to cheap shot stuff
so thats why rogues can be still good but the other 4 ppl in the dungeon has to do more stuff
We do have numbing poison for M+ and atrophic for raid but how much value does that really give to the fight?
You can do really good overalls both in raid and m+, you just aren't as useful
Also yes
Doesn't matter for the average players
You can do +10s with your monitor off
its midnight, you can do +10s without a PC
XD
xD
We'll be a little better when we get aoe blind back but knowing blizzard they're going to take something away from us just to give it back
FRICTION
I really thought we already had that back .. it's still on PTR? Fuck
u say that for sub or all specs cause they are even?
All
gotta love using puzzlebox in +12 keys, and when the cast is finished my target is allready at 60% hp
.5 LOLOLOLOL

It's coming back in .5
The puzzle is figuring out why the trinket exists.
We're in the "it'll be fixed in .5" step of the copium cycle
(it will not get fixed even though subtlety has literally all the rogue players now)
what aoe blind brotha
not until may at the earliest

tbh I like friction, there should be some friction within a kit to make it feel good to play
but this ain't friction, this has gone beyond friction to border skirmishes and isn't far from a declaration of war
if you pardon my metaphor
Blizzard won't do anything until we shut down the discord
They won't do anything if we shut down the discord and they absolutely shouldn't in that case, too.
also you're super behind, I'm in the "it'll get changes in 13.0, will it get fixed, who knows" part of the cycle already
Shutting down the discord shouldn't work but it did
I will unironically be incredibly surprised
if the 12.0.5 changes (which are at best neutral so far) get any (good) adjustments based on feedback prior to 13.0
That’s because a reasonable amount of players actually play DK
When do we think 12.0.5 is coming? April?
It didn't. Blizz didn't do anything because of a discord closing.
but that was pallies
They were going to get a buff regardless.
nah, not before May, season only started in late March anyway, so 0.5 isn't coming less than 6 weeks afterwards, more likely even 8 weeks which would make it late May
Oh I thought it was DK
Brother I think 12.1 is in June
Or July
If you look at the roadmap
that is impossible
a four-month patch ain't happening chief
.5 is probably April, yeah. Middle to end. .7 is like June / July.
well yes
but the probability of it is so close to zero
i mean we have a giant countdown to the void forge opening in 4 weeks, which afaik comes with the .5 update
Yep
hmmmm
End of August for 12.1 imo.
Yep.
Ngl I hope in .05 they reduce leveling xp and void assaults are good for leveling because I CBA leveling all my alts
Main campaign was pain enough
I am hoping it's chill to blast timewalks on reset for leveling
tbh I just levelled three
the rest are levelling off gathering xp lmao
no it fucking didnt you ape
jfc
do you REALLY think that some shity onnline bookclub having 1 mod throwing a tantrum made blizzard do balance changes?
Well, look what patiently waiting got us
and not the fact that it was literally fucking friday, aka the day when they do balance updates, and ret was known to be undertuned
i swear
you cant be THAT stupid
That's where you're wrong
what did that for pally is three factors
- ret was weaker than avg on damage and blizzard hates when a hybrid class doesn't have a top-dps spec (at least above average)
- ret is THE MOST popular spec of this fucking game (honestly disgusting a bit)
- the issue was easy to fix with just an aura buff
I DON'T PLAY THE GAME, OK?
i mean they literally just buffed the bottom 3-4 and nerfed the top 3-4
like they did that entire expansion
ya IK, hope your kid is doing great :)
She's doing amazing, it's been awesome
Hellllll yeah
its insane how many people think that the "shutdown" did anything
when it happend on a thursday evening
and friday is when they do balance patches
and ret was down at very bottom
like, bruh
you cant seriously think that blizzard, a multibillion company, is acting on the whims of 3rd party Discords, when it was just a totally generic "nerf top buff bottom" patch and nothing else 
you are also the maincharacter
so its valid
I'm the load bearing idle man.
Shut er down
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5 days into the season

OneAzeroth my goat
i still go back and watch the growl video about him
lmao
Thanks, can I have my 20 minutes back?
I am not saying it's a bad video, but not the type of content/information that's valuable to me
feels good especially with this gear for w1
the fact that it could've been compressed into a 5 minute video is its only crime
Sometimes the urge to yap takes over
to be fair, thats 90% of youtube
hey anyone knows what addon is this ? it's stuck in the middle of my screen
I hope they find a home soon
That's the Clickable buffs addon, had the same and turned it off earlier
Under "Group info"
Yeah I’m not touching m+ till season 2
It’s already too late

Mfs already have 3k rating
Hello 👋
Is there anywhere i can find where people have found any uses for cloak this season so far? Seems like cloak isn't used thst much in m+ as much as it was back in the day
Wait fuck
The aoe stealth
Is what i meant to say
Shroud!
with the proliferation of sentry mobs, lack of AoE CC, and generally bringing only damage to the party, I wouldn't expect to see a lot of shroud-based optimizations
the 0.1% title cutoff is already 3231 RIO on EU its crazy
You'll have better luck trying in your servers trade chat because craft orders are realm locked (outside of guilds).
Shit.
Thanks for letting me know
If you can't find anybody to do it, try making an alt on the opposing faction for your server. Then ask there. Some stuff is faction skewed where more people are alliance than horde, etc. Crafting orders can be done cross-faction.
Interesting, could try that
man i cant evne get into +2's whats goi non
Making friends might help
And playing a class that isn't being mocked around the internet too
Someone knows if pvp makes u loot catalyst charges ?
after getting the 4pcs achievement
You can from arena, I believe. A buddy pushed to 1.8k and got 4 during that time.
I assume it has to be rated. No clue on non-rated PvP dropping the charges.
what
okayy ty
because i'm not getting much luck dropping them in keys
I think Eleem thought you meant the achievement for the +1 catalyst.
They can also drop from bountiful delves.
I haven't got any in my 6 ones this week
oh mb
it's alr xd
do you think it's worth it keeping a veteran piece if it gives me the 4pcs ?
i should maybe sim this instead of asking 
love the "XYZ guild got Chimaerus HoF on their OPTIONAL Monday Raid" spamm every 2min
very serious raidtier 
please won't somebody find them a home
the average m+ trashpack lasts 2 HoF notifications now
Fam, any1 using sensei class resources know if we can change combo point colors when at 6+ like we used to with WAs?
I didn't find such an opportunity there. So I had to go back to WA
sensei works well for me i think u can change colors in the addon
At this rate no one is getting into +2s. No one’s doing them. I don’t think it has anything to do with the class
What I said remains true
The lack of noticeable buffs or changes to our class became the subject of mockery already and it's sad. And people with negative IQ will check tier lists to base their decisions on whether they invite you or not
I just stopped playing sub
not getting 4pc in week 1 means the char is pretty much dead
by sub i mean rogue
since the damage without 4pc is a joke
Is there a mount at 3k io this season
yeah
its a white and blue recolor of the ugly bird
insanely cool color scheme wasted on an incredibly ugly mount
I mean sub is looking fine at least
It’s brain dead to play
But at least it’s doing ok
anyone got kick macro
What kind
shindig got a macro that u dont need to change ur target to kick
that kind
That's probably a mouse over kick
Been a while since I've made macros but you could try :
#showtooltip Kick
/cast [@mouse] Kick
Idk if it will work purely because I haven't done mouse over macros in ages
Check spec specific channels, some people might have it
alr sir thank u
I tried a tricks of the trade macro but it was prolly shit, but also used @ command, where you wrote your tank's name after the @ and it did nothing lmao so I made my own dumb ass macro and it works with /targetprevioustarget xD
Would be nice to have some kind of kick macro tho
Hmm
The automisdirect weakaura was made into an addon so it’s still around and works well
this mf with a 1h mace as ret in a normal pug

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i had to buy him a boe off a brutosaur
Wdym
Oh I see what you're saying
Idk I had a 6/6 hero track that I wanted to keep
Locked it in
its still 4set next reset if you get 1 piece in vault
i mean it kinda doesnt matter since you'll get another charge tomorrow
unless its the piece he already catalysed
I would need a drop too

2 catalyst + 1 vault
you dont have 2k?
You get one from that?
yes
Oh dope. No I have like 4 or 5 at +10
But haven't even touched the others yet
Hard to find a group
Do you just get the charge or does it drop or?
free
once every 2 weeks
here i can find or use addon to see the personal resoursers in the nameplates? idk why blizzard remove that
Sensei class resource bar
Does anybody know what addon shows those casts?
I got casualaddicts addons and idk what that is and its in the way
but with that u cant see it in the nameplates of u enemy, u see a bar there soo anoying
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Big wigs cuh
Addons so dead peps outhere asking what this new powerfull addon bigwigs is
Ah that's true I never even noticed that
Hey everyone, I’m looking to level up my rogue alt really fast. I heard it’s possible to chain run the Shadowguard delve to level quickly. What I don’t understand is that it needs to be done in “Calamitous” mode ? What does that mean ? (I haven’t looked into delves at all for Midnight). Thanks!
Would imagine"calamitous" being the story of that delve on that day
anyone's valeera doing like 20-25k damage in delves?
i was watching my friend do the ?? delve and his valeera did like 10k dps as healer while mine did 2-2.5x that amount
they were roughly the same level and same level curios aswell
do we get another catalyst charge today?
Mine pulls 60k
Yes
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"PvP mains" always talking about how much knowledge they need about all classes in the game
and then doesnt know about frenzied regen

Tbh Xaryu hasn’t competitively pvp’ed in a few seasons
Yeah and it's also not in an arena setting with a team and whatnot, 1v1 while leveling is hardly balanced, although I wouldn't argue arena is extremely balanced either lmao
should i put the last of the 4 piece tier set onto a champ gear cuz i dont have hero for that slot
Yeah. You'll get another charge.
You get achievement that unlocks catalyst drops on basically everything at around 10% drop rate.
random drops from endgame content
oh damn so like delve, dungeons, wq?
just like when you are behind and randomly drop them
oh cool
thanks
damn lol today was 2nd week so we got a free charge anyway
i picked the tier set in vault, yikes
guys hello 😄 im a newcomer and i need some help with something . i saw a streamer that had addons for his ui (he was a Subtlety rogue) and he had some buffs like shadowdance to be shown as separate bars showing the timer that the buff is active , what addon do u suggest for having this ? cause i have no idea of all this stuff 😄 i appreciate any answer
You can do it with the base UI, by putting shadow dance in the "bars" section in the buff tab
but this guy had it fully customized , the bar was streched kinda thin and was blue
dont know if u can see it clearly 😄 but the shadowdance and shadowblades buff is in the middle right section of his screen
and is shown as a tracked buff with timer but customized in blue color
thats what i mean
that UI looks familiar
its projectt's 😄
i was watching his stream yesterday night , and i just want to find out with what addon did he use to make the shadowdance shadowblades show like tracked blue customized bars 😄
Guys is timewalking up this week
for NA
Can you recraft an item from r3 to r5?
Yes.
Ahh nice nice so I’m just being lied to
Farstrider’s mercy
Yes, that can be recraft to R5.
Any item like that (i.e., gear). Can always be recraft from any rank up to R5, with the right reageants and skill.
Is it more worth to recraft from champ to heroic to try to push higher keys or just save and upgrade incoming hero gear?
Spending 80 hero crests on the dagger is a complete waste. It's better to get 80 myth.
They don't get refunded.
Awesome, ty!
Judging from your name I believe you'll recraft gear into heroic first
Wonder why
any of you struggling with almost no loot at all or I'm cursed
almost 40m+ this week and barely found 5 pieces
I'm screaming
That's how it goes.
My gf got 8 (EIGHT) chest pieces in a row
Loot is a lie. Content is forever.
welp its alt leveling time
do we have a midnight atrophic poison spreadsheet?
thankfully not this time, I generally make semi informed decisions in game compared to irl unfortunately
Fair enough xD
Might seem like a stupid question. But, anyone here have any advice at all as to where/what I should be looking for Guild-wise.
I am coming from Classic. Retail cranks and I am really enjoying retail. I usually am a hardcore raider.
I joined a guild on a snap decision, and they are clearing heroic omega slow. They are like a turbo-dad guild. I cannot join a mythic prog guild, as turns out classic raiding experience at the top doesnt matter. Cant trial cause I am not already a Cutting Edge raider (dont even know what that is).
What type of guild should I be looking for, and where would I find said guilds to apply to?
for raid
Just kind of aim for gradual progress really, you probably ain't gonna move from a dad AOTC guild to even late tier in one go. I'd say try and get some logs on HC then look at 4/8-6/8 mythic guilds to get some mythic reps in. (Also cutting edge just means beating the last boss on mythic that tier)
doing well in mythic plus wont hurt either and would be the fastest way to have something to show for other than your raidlogs
and better not mention classic at all in applications x)
I mean other than writing (who gives a fuck really) Dragonflight was bis
Midnight is just Dragonflight 3
Hell yeah
PMUCH
this bad boi trinket had more spell effect love than all of the rogue specs together ._.
does atrocity ui use elvui?
Retail boyos really hate classic aye?
I dont get the divide.
They're just different games at this point.
Yeah for sure. Cataclysm and MoP were starting to get really fun with the mechanics being so involved.
So I popped into Retail and this shit cranks.
Experience in one doesn't guarantee translation to another so people just tend to want retail xp.
not more than the other way around tho
I also dont get those people.
Yeah, it's hard to explain to people that I probably care more about raiding than they do. So I'd be a good raider. 🙁
Finding the stepping stone guild will be the challenge I am afraid.
dragonflight writing wasn't great, but i am not sure if minight reaches the same level as dragonflight
if you want to spoiler yourself, can watch this and judge the story development
SPOILERS DON'T OPEN ||I don't understand the whole plot about "shadowlands isn't what it seems man I gotta dig deeper man I just came here to shoot an arrow and farm aura man okay bye sister bye nephew xoxo"||
How is it easier to get into m+ keys on my 245 lock than my 263 rogue
thank you for typing that in caps
for some reason my first instinct was to click the spoiler despite not wanting spoilers

||I re-watched it to look if I missed something. But, I guess there isn't that much more context.||
Basically a "thanks, I... Guess?"
its weird, maybe we need noble to explain the depth of the cinematic
I grew up listening/watching his videos, he's literally the GOAT
same
||@tough swallow im 100% confident in this natural resistance to the void that the undead have. this will play a huge roll in prepering us, the players to face xally somehow. i guess we'll die or some shit and sylvanas in fishing us out of the maw. (we never died to enter the shadowlands)
(the resistance of the undead to the void was mentioned in some comic a few years ago btw im not making that up)||

tribalism on the internet theres nothing you can do.
but the guild applications from guys that misremembering themselves to have raided hardcore like 15 years ago is a running gag in most guilds.
"i almost cleared lichking on normal lets apply to the Hall of Fame guild on my server" type shit
I am not the old boomers that clear lich king on normal with the 30% buff guy for sure.
I was told that with my middling logs I was likely shooting a little too high. fwiw the dad guild I am in I am parsing in the high 80s-90s with bad kill times, and no raid strategy whatsoever. The advice of pushing IO is not a bad idea.
I pushed over 3k back in like season 2 of Dragonflight or something then stopped at like 2800 season 1 of TWW. I am 2641 right now and I have not actively tried pushing IO yet.
Try pugging, too. Get some kills, some boss practice
Rogue is Giga fun too.
It helps and shows initiative
Yeah this week I have to pug due to not being able to make the one saturday night raid. I havent looked at pugging mythic yet. But I imagine maybe the Chimaerus and first couple bosses as a merc wouldnt be impossible.
||All I know is we're going to see the Sylvanas plotline shelved until the 3rd patch where we'll get a new Maw-inspired dungeon like how we had Eco-Dome in TWW. There will also be a questline relevant to the new dungeon where we help Sylvanas possibly break free from the Maw.||
All I know is the next patch will do the usual "but first, this other stuff!" and we'll get a Troll patch.
wow has no real skillgap that regular players cant overcome. its mostly knowladge and prep that gets you 95% of the way
This comes pretty naturally to me. I like doing big dam. Part of doing big dam is knowing the mechanics, which ones can be cloaked, feinted, etc to keep the pump going.
I do truthfully appreciate the advice because as far as retail is concerned. It is all a mess due to there not being a smaller server size with everything being cross realm.
But new challenges to overcome.
Try raid leading a heroic pug if you want a fun challenge that really demonstrates how little a lot of people actually know
It's a great place to really get comfy with everything a boss does and what you should or shouldn't focus on
wdym buying a curve run week one and expecting kill xp the next week is all thats needed 
Haha
I legit ask people what to do with a specific mechanic if I suspect they've just bought
It works so well
Cos they might've bought but have really good encounter understanding and be absolutely fine
Post cats


fucking finally, ive suggested this on every beta
Is this real?
When the fuck does this start
next patch
i swear to god i have suggested that on the beta forums since cataclysm
I got more heated when monks went in
Give me this and Valera’s daggers and I won’t have to wish for ghost blades daily
||Haha, you think Ill write something smooth, but its just another
GOT HIS ASS, LETS GOOOOO.||
fak u
||Pretty sure its about shadowlands aren’t the real shadowlands, just something the titans made up too, just like arator says in the maw questline “its way too ordered and clean here for the shadowlands”||
||the shadowlands were all a dream, and in the 12.2 patch we will go to the even shadowerlands. Feel free to quote me on this||
||12.2 raid: 9x halondrus||
||The Shadylands||
this gives me anxiety
Just retcon the entire xpack 😭
tbf only a handful of lore stuff was relevant
No doubt they bring sylvannas back at some point lol
im waiting for the annual april fool dev post!!!
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who has been around long enough to have played vanilla haha?
Me but took a break from 2008-2025
im old!
So does anyone else have a bug where Ethereal Reaping’s animation will still proc? It does no damage but the animation still procs and I’m not even wearing that cloak
|| Its a 200iq move to do what they did with Arkway as a delve with an entire expansion, the Shadowlands turn into the Light/Sunlands. (i am joking)||

I liked the end of raid cutscene
It was good.
I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to handle the dirge mechanic via text consistently...
Is there a timewalking raid rn ?
yeah firelands
!up
Can someone explain what this does
Bcause i've been getting myth crests in guilded stashes before getting to that tier lmao
||The Maw becomes that field from Teletubbies, with Sylvanas as the Sun baby||
Small company
You get a single +1 from doing one of these three: 1.6 PvP rating, 2K M+ rating or AotC Midnight Falls.
Because you’re playing an rpg
Are you on an alt?
Ah well yeah sorry then
id rather just timewalking to max and skip this shit no one cares about the dumb story lmao
I'm not sure if this is every useful or not and I didn't see any mention of this from looking around a bit so not sure if it's old or new news
But swirly ball gives Gaze of the Alnseer stacks
It's rppm anyway, so it doesn't matter
Thought maybe in a situation where it procs and you're too far away from any enemies, during a soak or something
Hi guys, is there only one radiant spark we can get through quest this week ? I am 4/5 with the weekly quest today, not sure if I missed something
your total today should be 6 sparks, 5 from weeklies and 1 from world tour quest
Hi ! On Chimaerus Mythic, do you know if Feint reduces dmg taken from Rift Madness ?
Hey guys! Maybe a weird question.. I play Sub atm but i rlly dont like the phase between SD. Last time i played was Shadowlands (Sin in Raid and Sub in M+).
I would pref Sin but it feels rlly slow.. Sub is all about CD and im bad at timing 😅
I didnt play outlaw for a long time so i cant say anything bout it..
i wanna play a fluid specc. no energy starving. no slow rotation. no "just use cds and go afk after it" 🤣
i know sub is best dps atm but i heard outlaw is more fluid without downtimes or energie starving?
i rlly dont know what to play atm cause it feels weird. i play rogue since 2004 so i dont wanna play anything else 😅
Sin has been slow since forever, sub has been about CDs since forever, outlaw is the weird brother with a really high apm
what you can do reduce downtime between dances is to hold dance when you see you can funnel or aoe and dance when it's not possible
yea sin was always slow. but the energy starving feels really bad atm (just my opinion cause in shadowlands raid it was great)
thats what i try. but if u dont use SD it feels like you dont do anything 😅
maybe its just because im getting older but ur feels kinda weird
yes! and that feels weird 🤣
Idk, it's a time to relax for a bit
and if u dont use your cds correctly at sub you lose a lot of dmg
check pin msg
!up
probably not, no point to have it
Thanks, so it only applies 20% DR (not AoE), right ? Is it a good time to use Shadow Cloak then ?
hey, is anyone using Arc UI? did u figure out how to show anima-charged combo points while u have 0 combo points and u are not in combat? i mean mainly when i use shadow dance pre-pull for extra charged combo points
ask in your trade chat
This isn't trade chat

after crafting the belt and the dagger, what else do i make with sparks now?
another dagger?
wrist/ring/neck
what's your crappiest piece right now?
Is it just me or does the new raid have no warnings?
Any chad rogues do myth vangs yet on rogue? All specs feel awful for it ngl tryna figure out which is best XD
assa prop best for vangs
give ya spot up
that was legit my advice to my gm
and i never ask to be sat
lmao
thats kinda what my thought was but still feels omega awful
im sitting myself i think
bouta do tank damage
XD
they need to redesign asa to old asa and buff outlaw aoe by 10%
and then rogues in a good spot
it's like 100% gonna be benched on that boss anyways so no need to even think about it
you guys know if is there a specific breakpoint for spending hero crests?
what do u mean
pretty much just sended hero crests
When every item you have equipped is at least 276 ilvl
wtf is wrong with algethar academy, this dg is so much harder than the rest
time is so tight it seems
feels like the damn bird has so much more hp than it should idk
tight timer
and yeah that also
was it always 25% damage amp? i thought it was more back then
nah im pretty sure it was much more than 25%
Is there any reason to upgrade hero offhand over legs/chest?
not rogue specific but, is world boss loot only once per week account wide? i know the guaranteed drop is once per week but do i still have a chance after?
guaranteed once, random after
ah ok, and can i just bring my 80s for it or no
Only if sims tells you to
if u stun engineers in nexus point right before they die they don't drop canisters? has anyone noticed this
hi, does atrophic poison stack with paladin aura damage reduc ?
yea but it does not work on everything
like what ?
enviromental damage
what is enviromental damage?
who the fuck knows until we try if atro works on it
idk about that but
every AA pug I get is omega trash
probably why they invited a rogue to begin with but
there are a lot of mobs
that you need to CC as well
and tight dungeon
so either you pull big and do proper cc chain
or you pull small and really tight timer
On second boss of Seat of Trium, can we soak up all the void bombs with cloak or does that still kill the party?
anyone got tips on leveling - just got back into midnight and boosted to 80?
should I play sub since thats what i intend to m+ in and is there any level talents resource here ?
Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides
yeah sub should be good for levelling
legit just open up, sd, sectech, enemy is likely at least 50% dead, almost like vanilla ambush crits
any1 have an idea if we can up the addons volume and lower this in game ?
Yes

Does anyone know if you can Cloak of Shadows to solo Light Dive/Void Dive on Belo’ren, similar to a mage using Ice Block to solo it?
Yes you can
And it will still drop the puddle after, yea? You can’t cheese it so hard as to not deal with the puddle after?
Yes you still get the puddle
Thank you
I’d have used them on a trinket anyways so all should be good
I assume I just need another trinket to 6/6 for free
the one you're most comfortable playing
lol my gtx 1080 + 6700k had both 10% utilization and 5 fps in raid with lowest settings... Reverted to default graphics in wow which resulted in higher settings BUT 10x more fps 😂 kill me
im gucci now! at least for another year
What would be the best m+ spec sub or outlaw ?
Both probably
If you're pushing high keys, you could check raider io
the answer is w/e u like more
outlaws in 18s and subs in 18s its just abt who is playing/with
and thats at the very top imagine how much it matters in your keys
Usually when we give that answer people don't like it

You gave the right answer tho
i have been playing the decline simulator for an hour now

plssss
let me
into a dungeonn
might want to become the gatekeeper yourself
if you already have resi 14 try to find some like minded tank/healer that buffs you
then make groups with them
i should try that
feel like its so hard to get an invite after a certain rating
How do people generally find premades?
Felt like the wall kicked in for 14s and 15s are solid afk to play STS2 while I wait
usually if you want to push this early
you literally try and talk to every tank/heal you find
esp if you are on one of the not meta specs or classes like rogue
Does anyone know if Blizzard is already working on a solution regarding the massive lag in 40v40 Epic Battlegrounds?
i mean it has only been a thing for 17 years
surely they fix it now
maybe when those lags can legally drink in US
Was doing Grudge Pit and fighting this Ultradon; Valeera pulls the Voidscythe like she always does but after 5 seconds it just insta-dies.
No clue how.
heart attack can come at any time
i see. i will try that
thank you for tips^^
ah he got sacred deaded
I got every other Curio to 4 before I started getting upgrades for it
First time doing a Delve since I upgraded it, didn't realize it added that execute
based ethical rogue
backhanded compliment
but u take it cause its the last key group ur getting tonight
blizz make the tier lists like us again 
ayy nice
Found something I just don't understand. I've done my crafts for embellishments and am looking for a 3rd craft. I'm having a hard time understanding how Murder Row Fishhook at 285 can be 0.3% worse than a 276 with the same stats? From where I'm standing it looks like I would only add weapon damage and a bleed proc? Am I crazy here? (Also, I'm likely not doing mythic soon. So I'm thinking weapon is the way to go?) My toon is Thelore in Bleeding Hollow any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Murder row fish hook's extra effect counts as an embellishment
ohhhhhh thank god...Saved me there
Did Delves got harder? Also do you guys just run level 11 delves or is there an optimal lower level, were the rewards dont go higher, so no point in running 11?
11 are good when you reach delvers journey lvl4 because you can get 21(?) mythic crests per week iirc
@noble kestrel might know the exact number
Yeah, level 4 for Myth crests which drop on T11 gilded stash 3 times a week (plus map). 8 is better to run outside of that.
It's 7 per iirc? So 21.
Do you recall if map in 11 awards myth crest aswell, like in tww?
thanks for the answer
It does, once you've unlocked gilded crests in delves iirc
In tww, lvl11 map would award the most crest, correct?
so in theory it would be good to use map on 11 always (?)
Fuck yeah, still know my shit 
how do you guys choose what to take in the great vault?
is it better to get a weapon that could upgrade 13 item level compared to the current one, or get 3 set peace and upgrade the last one for 4 set bonus?
Raidbots says to take the Back, but that only does the current math
Normally it'd be a case of simming the potential upgrades to see what happens - and you can upgrade gear on raidbots.
So you could add in the 13 ilvls onto the weapon
Okay, it says take the helmet and catalys the hands
weapon can be crafted to myh level
so ideally it would be your first craft // first 80 myth crests used
anyone knows the + sign and debuff addons?
WilduTools
ok
Is outlaw kinda good? What do people think
What's the quickest delve to run as a rogue? Just want to get up my delve levels quickly.
All 3 specs lowkey pretty good for M+
For Valeera in Delve 11, you specialize here in what ? Tank heal or dps ?
heal if youre dps
I have her heal and then throw Tricks on her. Makes 11's a breeze.
Thanks ! 🙂
Does anyone know if there's a way to get friendly nameplates for players of the opposing faction with Plater? I raid with a mostly alliance guild as a horde and when I raid or do dungeons with them the friendly nameplates default to some small blue/purple font. Or is that just a restriction in the game right now?
This is not lfg
Does numbing poison work on bosses
What's the best spec to level as?
sub is probably the best atm, you just kill a guy every 20s like instantly
yee
Guys I think I found the rogue buffs
No problem!
Agreed. It's been really helpful too on Nightmare hunts. Just make sure something is around and delete it when necessary.
lads
when is 0.5 expected to come out?
lol
I heard that Dawnlight Manaflux (catalyst charges) will be earned by completing mythic plus after you've already obtained 4 set. Is it not guaranteed? I've ran more than 10 keys yesterday, still at 0
not guaranteed no, ive gotten 2 and ive done like 5 keys and 5 delves
just rng but they drop often enough
I've seen 1 in 25 keys this week
I'd like to speak to the manager
I think raid bosses and delves are faster prolly
Or it's just rng and I'm mind controlled

Does any rogue spec have good prio/funnel damage?
!up
You have 4p on 3 characters?
I got 3 in 6 bosses in raid last week
can anyone confirm if the achiev that unlcocks catalyst charges drop is warband?
its per char
Negative.
What you think will be Bis spec in raid with the tune up assass or outlaw ? I think de 4% overall dmg for outlaw is kinda huge
bis will continue to be not bringing a rogue
but if you absolutely must bring a rogue, then sub, changing to assa in some fights I dont recall now
if you ask like that, you dont play on a level where anything matters anyway and should just play what you like 
sad reading the chat, kinda wanna play rogue but looks like the class is in dire need of some buffs lol last i played we were so op
every class discord dooms when they arent #1 dps and if they are number 1 they doom in fear of nerfs, just play whats fun
Does your warband determine warbound drops in delves?
Nah bro everyone is a .1% player it matters so much
no
warbound = account wide
the warband in character selection is just a cosmetic
who at blizz
thought it was a g ood idea
to makle dungeons part of the campaign
you can do them in follower dungeons
Leveling wasn’t too bad, it’s the first time campaign gate keeping everything that hurts. Bum rushed to 90 in delves 85% of the time, only to do the campaign from eversong upwards at 90 lol. Finally completed the campaign last night with roughly 3-4 days of play time including pvp and legacy farming.
I personally like when Dungeons are part of the campaign. Feels rather immersive, same as they utilizing Delves to be part of the story.
The Dungeons are often the 'conclusion' of the zone story anyway, making it optional always felt awkward.
Yeah. It's not that hard, you just needed one vault with tier at this point
Or to have gotten a piece elsewhere
also makes people somewhat remember what bosses etc do
Having to do MT on alts just to start questing in Voidstorm is a bit jarring though
is there somewhere I can check skyfury buff per class ?
There is supposedly an achievement for the 4 set bonus no? Where you can catalyze for free afterwards?
Not for free
But you can get more charges by playing the game after you have the achievement
They drop from like keys/raid/delves sometimes
Ah, still better than waiting two weeks saving the charges.
whats a good ilvl to be at rn for higher keys like 15?
270+ probably
yeah that was what I was trying to say lol, I have the 4pc achievement on 3 characters and it wasn't until yesterday finally that I ran a dungeon/Delve(it was a delve) and got one of the charges to drop
They are still RNG
unlocky
did they nerf the shadowguard point xp thing
no idea
Nop
its only worth it on a specific story
!ui
Rogue Guides:
WoWhead: https://www.wowhead.com/classes#rogue
Icy Veins: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides
Ye calamitous.
It’s up rn so if you’re grinding dps alt just spam that while waiting on timewalking queue
Does Vantus Rune count in parse?
Yes
Guy used a toy that made me a portal to "Somewhere", ended up here. 10/10 would end up getting drunk and watching crabs fight again
Hi, do we need to kill a boss every week to include the boss loot in vault? Or do we just need to kill it once on that difficulty
How it used to work is that if you kill a boss, all the loot from previous bosses is included
But it's decided based on the highest tiered boss you killed that week
Soo now after wednesday witch class will be the top in m+ ?
poison srs necromancer
witch is looking very good rn yes
Can’t be, discord got deleted by the RMT demon
Guys anyone know how to fix the vanish Bug ?
Sometimes I vanish and cant Strike?
It’s Like the stealth doesn’t work
Does it have to do with autoattacks or what’s the Problem
I Spam vanish Strike
probably because you don't have enough energy
So u saying noone of u has that problem ?
U use any macro for vanish or shadowstrike ?
Maybe thats my Problem
It happens to me sometime too , maybe you pressing shadowstrike to fast after vanish .
If you have resil 15 for example and you drop your key to a 14 and deplete, does it drop to 13 or stay 14
Does the resil work for all levels or only the highest
I believe it works for all levels at or below the resi key
best lura addon? (none github)
how can i remove the combopoints counter under my healthbar? i have CDmanager that shows me the points i dont need it twicwe
You probably need a. Addon to remove those
hey, tried to look up some updated methods to farm this https://www.wowhead.com/item=231550/darkfuse-lowdown-coat#comments is scrap events for 14 market research each really the best method? can you not go to that one spot people used to farm mobs and kill them yourself now that we are an entire xpac ahead?
also some vids i saw people getting 1k rep per box while i only get 500, was there an extra rep event at some point in tww?
shieeet
idk where to even get the rest of the transmog
the glasses and the pants and w.e
doesn't seem like they're from the same vendor 
its tuxedo stuff
oh
glasses are fished up in worgen place
cheers bro
Pants look like Black Tuxedo Pants, shoes look like Sabellian's Boots
tyty
unfortunately, yes
the best part, however, is that you can (and should) farm it up gradually, then wait for a rep boost event and turn the currency in then for +100% rep
!up






guess i gotta farm it with scraps now