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Not playing a class due to perceived delve performance goes insanely hard
For Mythic Dungeon Tool, do you have it open during m+ runes?
Sub delves is really comfy and fast
You just nuke everything. And dance just drops aggro onto brann or other party members all the time so you never have to worry
that is a good reminder to tell people
NOT THIS ONE BUT THE STABBER
stabby stabby agility agility
because unless youre in a WR top 20 whatever spec you play won't matter
and if you are in a WR top 20 then you probably arent asking the question
oh
hes gone

You’re hours late and streets behind
there looking to be good opportunities for trash skips with shroud this season
which Rogue name do you prefer.
Cunning
Cutthroat
cumthroat
Rogues
It's patch day, I'm excited and also sad cuz my rogue won't be experiencing it yet
Potatochip
Mage day
Ayo
Patch day is tomorrow. Today is beta testing day for our brave Oceanic and Americas comrades. 🫡
Today is the day we find out if blizz fucked up their version control or not 
im sure they've learnt their lesson
SURELY
Is there a way to see which spec is favored for each fight in the raid
How do you guys figure it out
I look at the fight and then just play the spec that I'm used to playing and play for every boss anyhow 
I didnt know, that Rogue has a Spec named "Bench"
WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I was benched for most of stix prog and it was the happiest time of my life
Because I didn't have to prog stix
I benched myself on Stix Prog

Is it safe to say that if i am comfortable playing outlaw i should have no issues learning assa and sub if i have to swap on raid for specific fights?
Hello guys came back to wow and i was wondering which spec should i play between assa and outlaw ? Last time i played rogue was like at DF, i love the 2 specs so i just play the best between them, i just dont like sub, what u guys think if u had the chance to test the specs ? Thx!
the oen you enjoy the most
I was benched for 80 pulls, got asked to sub in for 15 minutes because someone was late and we killed 
Outlaw is very different
I enjoy both the same as i wrote i usually play the best between them
assa
But you have an idea how Rogue works
there's your answer then
Ty mate!
did they say what time the update sohuld come out?
Hey guys, do you think its worth to respec from outlaw to assasin for next season ?
You dislike outlaw now?
I mean a bit, assasin always was more fun, but its more complicated, so its kind of hard to decide.
Killing spree is just shit at the moment…
The new one?
Did not try ptr, just asking based on nunbers…
Atleast it doesnt kill you 7/10 times when you press it
Assa is bonkers on ptr, outlaw isn't, assa might get nerfed tho so
And what would be the best/fastest way to respec?
I mean in terms of gear
Think rogues will be overplayed?
Hello guys just a general question i just came back to wow after a year or two i dont remember and i was playing assassination rogue and now that i try to hit level 80 i was thing the old set from dragonfly do i need it anymore can i do something with it?
I have only played wow during dragon flight expansion and i dont know what people do old gear after a release
Prob not pretty much any new gear will be better than the old set, you can vendor it for a few hundred gold!
no, nobody plays rogues
Most of the time they just vendor or disenchant it. It typically won't serve a purpose anymore.
Okay thanks i was just curious about it thanks alot
I eill try farm the new set
I will see how that will go
Should be very easy to catch up via the new zone coming today (US) / Tomorrow (EU).
Once you are level 80, that is 🙂
Im at 76 prob will be 80 today or tommorow
I still try to catch up woth my rotations
Yeah, easypeasy. Don't hesitate to ask if you need directions to where to go and do stuff 'cos hitting cap mid-expansion can be confusing. But if you just follow questlines and the 11.2 (Anything about K'aresh) it should guide you to the latest content.
New zone will have gear ?
Most likely, yeah. Some basic stuff to catch you up.
Yea thanks alot I know coming to wow was hard the first time i thing now it will be better 😛
Do you guys know why https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/m-enterprising-hero-title-updated-3-august-582042
was not updated in the last 2 days ? Is it normal or no one really knows
@noble kestrel I just don’t want to play something that is like way over represented, and I’ve always wanted to play a melee
Rogue is least played (or second to least) played class.
To all the players asking what spec they should play // if they should roll another spec for season 3:
- if you're not playing in a RWF / early CE environment, just save yourself the trouble and play the spec that you enjoy the most. Rogue overall does well in any content;
- If you have to ask other people if you need to reroll another spec, you don't;
- All rogue specs are good, all rogue specs are able to clear high level content;
- PTR numbers might mean nothing in a few weeks when tuning is done due to heroic week (where data is actually important);
- Tierlists done by streamers are just cash grabs, since it's one of the best content to talk about before a season starts due to engagement metrics;
TLDR you're already paying to play this game, just enjoy it!
(sin)
(sub)
(not outlaw)
at least that one is honest
Pin It
Like one of your french girls
thank you royal for these informations! now I finally understand! ❤️
narrator:
- he doesn't.
..maybe I will if you could finally tell me what spec the best is next season
XDDDD
augmentation
Arms + Aug will establish the meta
“able to clear” and “give’s you best shot of maximizing DPS and/or not getting kicked out of your M raid trial for too-low dmg” are very different things. There are objective answers, even if we may not know them yet or even if they may change in future.

If you have to ask, you should be kicked out of your M raid trial 
The point was illustrative. Might as well respond “go figure it out yourself” when people ask questions if, by asking, they prove they don’t deserve an answer
yo royal your post was great but what spec should i play?
Arcane!
nah seriously, whats the best rogue spec, i need prio funnel cds and sims @mellow pilot
arcane right?
Combat
hahaha
Arcane left, right is taken
Perfection
i dont know why but i "hate" when someone just ask "whats the best spec now?" "what should i play now"?
cmon man, do your own research
atleast u should have a preference too, right?
estimate for servers to be live ?
3pm pdt is the current estimation by Blizz
I'm not a mythic raider nor will I ever put in the effort to get into a mythic guild, but I can tell you right here that I'll never not play assassination. It's my spec. Idc if it sims higher or lower than the other 2 lol
I wouldn't be able to pull my weight playing sub or outlaw even if they were incredibly broken
same here, i would never play assa as an outlaw main even if it sucks
everyone has its things
I genuinely have so much fun playing assa man, it just clicked with me
Funnily enough I played fury warrior S2 to get to 3k just so I had a reason to get warrior mythic transmog LOL
haha
this but Sub for me. High5, team favourite spec
Definitely the right channel
hey guys, anywhere we can see sims for all specs?
Hmmm there was something being shared in assassination I believe
Ty
🗡️ S3. ROGUE. IS. HIM. 🗡️
Assassination’s dots tick so hard they leave emotional trauma.
Outlaw is spin-to-win Beyblade mode.
Subtlety? More like Subtley destroyed the entire boss timeline.
I ran one sim and my CPU caught fire.
Tier set? Straight up made my opener illegal in 14 countries.
Even the boss is like
“yo can we chill on the damage???”
Raid lead whispered me: “We’re stacking Rogues this tier.”
The last time that happened was WotLK.
We back.
Every pull I vanish just to flex on the meters.
Energy regen? Infinite. Cooldowns? Constant. Style? Immaculate.
I’m not playing WoW anymore — I’m playing God.
what the helly

That's chatgpt
rogue is a damn awesome class
This is what happens when servers down and I have the day off work 🫠
Fair enough
Were the US servers down until 3PM? Is that EST?
Anyone have the TLDR for which rogue spec does the most damage in raid. I know sims say fate bound outlaw
The one you find the most fun
@mellow pilot WE GOT ANOTHER
gottem
Usually outlaw sims the highest amongst all 3 specs
due to how ST sims work
In reality it isnt like that during real play
In reality we do MUCH more damage than sims suggest, because we have to overcome so much
Plus the power of friendship
Sin it is
sub is going to be cool
v purple, v cool
fronteir gets it
Incredible
hello guys so which specc do we want to play in raid? which one is stronger or do we have to play sub and assa ?
I hope that helps you
yoo, guys quick question because my lazy ass cant memorize things like that. If patch goes live tomorrow, will i still be able to get AotC/CE for LoU? Technically the new raid wont be live yet.
you used to be able to get it, but apparently they changed it with this patch
that you cant anymore
oooh
but even in the patch notes its not 100% clear
lol
just says something about a new approach etc
ty!
I thought it wont be available anymore after reset, because this ssn ends on reset, but on the other hand next season goes live not this but next reset and the achievements says "before the next raid tier". so started to wonder kekl
NA just went live so hopefully we find out soon
Correct as far as I understand it. I believe season ends on reset for patch
'Cos we have part of season 3 stuff (m0, delve, world boss) right away
With the Ghosts of K’aresh patch on Tuesday, August 5, we’re taking a new approach to ending a season and opening new content. So that players can immediately start gearing up and enjoying everything new, the majority of Ghosts of K’aresh content will be available from the start, including the new campaign chapters 1-3, Reshii Wraps, the n...
But then you have the achievement that still says, 'before the release of the next raid', hence why people are confused.
Yeah, but I'd go with that blue post made quite recently
I'm leaning towards not being available but I can see why people are confused/questioning it
yeah hence why im asking, because just noticed what the achievement says itself. they shouldve redo the wording on it
Also, this is Blizzard, what they say is implemented on PTR and what goes live on a patch sometimes varies greatly
In darkmoon faire, ride the carosole
People are grabbing the resil keystone quest. I wonder if it was an oversight since this is the 1st season roll over since resil keystone were introduced
Does anyone know how much a mythic gally mount cost at the end of the tier?
@mellow pilot we made it fam
which alt was that btw?
out of the 14
last week went 0/17, this one was 6/17 of the week
Hell yeah
YES
Can we at least have a !dagger pin for stealth issues? Pls
Would be well thought if this was start of S2, no one will use that dagger going forward
Nobody should have been using an intellect dagger anyhow
Yet it happened
true
anyone else getting stuck in slow stealth stance whenever you come out of stealth?
its literally even making my mount slow xD
i completed but friend had it bugged idk if he assigned the power before the quest or what
but i think you can just ignore it, its prob just a tutorial quest
is assassination going to be better or sub this tier?
both
xalatath calling me her champion 
anynow know where Constable Zo'ardaz is?
anyone else having issues with elvui? not showing party frames and cant change profiles at all
is anyone having issues where their BAGS arent opening? thinking it could be an issue with my addons
probably elvui
is the cloak not available this week?
it is there are 5 chapters available you get it on ch 3
Elvui borks every update, part of the deal
Guys Hi i have question
Can you gain rating already tommarow (Season start tommarow bc am. EU)
or can i only gain rating from the 13th when the actual season starts
season starts on the 13
Ok so i can only then start gaining rating in pvp
Ohhhg ok thx so much
these quests buggin or what
What's the best delve for rogue this week?
Thanks for beta testing NA
anyone else getting this lua error bullshit?
heyo guys, I'm just coming back after playing on season 1, is there any catch-up quest or events that I can do to get ready to tackle season 3?
elvui?
just do the quest chain for the new patch, will get you better gear to start with
yeah
can we still play s2 m+ dungeons this week?
yeah elvui always breaks'
with every big patch
cost of doing buisness with the devil
fastest way to complete de weekly "more than just a phase"?
is anyone else's servers borked
Yep, can't get past character select screen
anyone tried 5 mask runs?
EU UP LOGIN
new skyriding glyphs, but they do nothing?
Are others experiencing the bug where you're like... stuck in the stealth animations and it won't let you re-stealth?
No
Or at least isn't supposed to have keys
Yes
Yoo Can we only do 1/5 of the storyline so far hence the cloak is timegated until chapter 3 or smth?
Did u do the campaign yet
It says "wait for your allies to gather against the shadowguard" and I cant accept any more quests...
in the quest log within the campaign section
If I'm not mistaken you can do like 3 or 5 chapters already, and you get the cloak at chapter 3(?) people have been reporting they already got the back
But I'm eu so i didn't play yet
yeah I just looked it up, should go further, but im stuck at 1/5 and the quest log tells me to wait for allies to gather against the shadowguard...lol
Ill have a look at the wow forum, maybe someone else has the same issue, thanks 🙂
If you hit the "wait for allies" that's the end of the campaign content for this week
Which means in theory you should have done everything by now and be able to acquire the back right @noble kestrel ?
Yuo should have it if you've hit the wait for allies bit in the oasis.
log out log back in
happened to me on 2nd character
Relogging does seem to be the fix of the day
What is max of the cloak this week?
701, I believe
Oh, neat, it goes up further
ye you get some threads to upgrade it from delves
Hell yeah
Yeah i re-logged a few times again and i have to do it now back to back whenever I finish another step in the storyline since my questlog doesnt update properly. Also the marker on the map doesnt seem to update always
What to do for that?
Probably best to search for it in outlaw channel, I wasn't really paying attention to the specifics
Something with alt fuckery
aren't s2 catalysts supposed to be unlimited now ? 🙁
next week presumably
https://www.wowhead.com/quest=86365/crest-transmutation this quest is bugged atm, deleted my 15 carved crests 🙁
Bring 15 Carved Ethereal Crests to Vaskarn in Dornogal, then trade them for a Pouch of Weathered Ethereal Crests. A level 80 Quest (Important Quest). Rewards .
NA testing
surely it will be fixed 🙃
it ate mine, too 🙁
Wich is the best spec for manaforge omega? sub?
Sub is very good, yes. It's purple and the raid is purple so it fits.
are sparks starting this or next id?
This.
Whichever you find the coolest
Some people advocate for purple = win
I rather enjoy my bleeds simulator
real
if it bleeds, we can kill it
You apply rupture as sub. So you bleed + purple
For purple related questions contact @noble kestrel

Purple insane week 1 or with 4p?
Didnt keep up with the sub news
Dang
Set bonus is very strong iirc. Something like 30%?
Deep purple
just get 4 set prism and wep before anyone else
then blast that first week like never before
Based and true
anyone know if we can skip / catchup with alts to karesh and cloak? or need to do all the quests again
You can skip. Do the intro bit then there's a skip option.
then go to the cloak upgrade npc and ask for one and you get it immediately. skip puts you at the end of the current 3 campaign quests
How is rogue doing in 11.2? I mean specs compared to each other? I play sub everytime I can but if sub is ass compared to other specs I’d consider playing assa or law. Pug world is ruthless if you ain’t meta
🔮
Mythic raiding?
Because if you're talking about normal/heroic raiding, you can play specless and with your monitor on and still do better than 90% of the raid
Just by pure sub skill
does anyone know how we get 2nd part of the spark, i did all weekly that says ''weekly activities'' on it
butim still sitting at 1/2 park
u guys getting invited in m0 ? on fresh rogue alt 660 ilvl i cant even do a single one, even tazavesh when I link the +20 keystone hero achiev for it i got in SL
is it just ilvl or ppl dont like rogues
Do you own group and you'll understand
Probably the ilvl, 660 is pretty low considering we just had a gear boost event
yeah i just dinged 80 this morning
but i mean its m0 should be perfectly doable
although i get it, if u have other options
Yeah but people signing up are all 675+, and when the leader has 200 people to choose from you dont stand out
true true
I had the same issue starting m+ late in s2
hello guys i hit level 80 yesterday and now i farm the new campaign for better gear im kinda new i have returned from dragonflight expansion and i was curious is there anything i need to learn for the new campaign? i was thinking finishing it and try out some m+ dungeons
is the campaign gear good in order to start m+? i dont know if i need to lookout for something
Campaign is the lowest gear, so starting out it can be ok but the farm rares, delves and m0 this week
no idea what is delves is i guess im going to learn now 😛
solo dungeons pretty much 🙂 but youll learn, this week is just do random stuff to fill your vault for next week
yea it is in the row for "world" content
well i know i ask dump question but the information is too much 😛
if you do 8 delves at the highest level you can (up to level 8, doesnt improve after that) you will have the maximum gear coming next week
okay is that something you can bring friends also? or its solo dungeon only
yea you can do it in group up to 3 people i think
np!
trying to gear alt rogue, and realized that renown rewards for carved crests actually gives weathered? Is that intended?
guys i finished campaign on my main, got wraps, upgraded with hisham and got the achievement, but when i logged on alt i didnt get the skip quest for campaign
any1 know a solution?
i reported it as a bug on ptr, doubt its intended. the upgrade tutorial quest in dornogal also is bugged as it deleted 15 carved crests for me.
you have to do the quest until you port to K’aresh, then you talk to the second guy there
ty
its pretty
Is the worldboss 1 garantied loot per account ?
yep
Hc and m+ around 2500ish. I know it’s skill>spec if we not aiming for top 1%, but as someone who can’t play everyday and got only few hours per week, I just don’t want to spend 90% of it being declined in lfg just because of the spec I play - I’ve experienced it back in DF and SL
That will happen regardless
You're not a buff class nor a tank or a heal
You might have more chances as assassination because it was doing well in the ptr
How are ppl getting 714 cloaks?
exploit
the normal max is 701 or 704?
does anyone know why i can't use new ensemble that i bought with untethered coins, i bought it but can't obtain for some reason
welp, i just log out and in, it now allows me to use it,
small company
Hi guys, do u know if Tazavesh Myth is open this week or it will start next week?
Next
!up
Do i do alt kills on world boss ?
For what
why am i perma stuck in stealth anim? 
Another one
i am too xD
saaaame
sucks to not have good stealth animations. 😛
hey, i play the other race with a good stealth animation
but it looks dumb on mounts 
My friend and I would like to start Heroic raiding this season and possibly mythic raidng the first few bosses. We are 3.3k IO M+ players and have only done pug Normal raids for fun in previous tiers. How would we go about finding the right guild? My friend prefers to tank as VDH, would guilds accept that for new guild raid members?
tanking is gerneally pretty tough to find when looking for a new guild, a lot of raid leads tank since in raid it is generally one of the simpler roles. There is the wowguilds discord or the #recruitment if you want to peruse through there
Thanks
someone else has a problem to click the northern fragment for "distilled madness" ?
Did we know wich rogue spec will be the best in this season?
yeah but we're not telling you
you missed the meeting a week ago where blizzard told us
the best rogue spec this tier is DK
idk what to say im pumping in m0
thats how we actually determine spec strength
i only tried sub, but if things survive my 2nd sec tech im top 100%
whatever one you prefere, all 3 are close enough to play whatever you like
This stealth bug is gonna turn me into the Joker
does it affect anything besides the way your toon stands/moves?
makes it a bit annoying to see if you are in stealth or not while phasewalking 
"I'm just SNEAAAAK past ya real quick" - me to everyone
why the heck is my bank UI changed, bags placeholder icon, and names are in french? 
you are french now
FUCK
a fate worse then death
sorry buddy time to start playing outlaw
im gonna go buy a peugeot
it'll be worth somethign soon trust
7 times?
i had so many from DF prepatch. i thought they will become unobtainable and be very expensive. but there are literally free on AH
i sold some for 3k at one point
ye
because literally everyone has the exact same idea and stocks up on 100s of them
so supply never actually drops
it will in like 20-30 years
i remember the iron star pets from wod prepatch the same thing happened lmao
maybe they gave sub some fixes aswell then


the omega long con
and also
there are not THAT many people that will pay big money for some pets they missed
its why soooooooo many of those "you can make 200k gold a hour by farming this old dungeon/raid for BoE drops!!!!" videos are funny
like, you can do it, but it just wont sell 
transmog and pets can take a long time to sell yeah
if i want gold i just go to nova discord and do some m+
but i had hope in this pet

or go boe run for a month when raid launches.
it will burn my neurons but i can make a lot
who the hell is that Blizzard dude with a hardon seeing us walk everywhere?
do we unlock mount use in phase?
Wow classic devs
is this new wowhead strat to allign everything in the middle?
Gotta make more room for ads
lol i use brave browser
it sucks if its intentional because i can't see the whole page for talents for example
eta gg
is it true we can get tier set from delve valut?
Yes, same as always
whats the max level of the cloak we can get this week/month
ive managed to get mine to 707
Wowheads ads are actually the most cancerous legit site ads I've ever encountered. Rivals some of the seediest porn sites
delve weakly chest is capped this week? or doing 8s will ive you a heroic piece on reset?
!wa
Rogue WA's:
Wago.io TWW Rogue
For more specific Rogue WeakAuras, run the !wa command in your preferred specialization channel.
wait oops
just had an ethereal p ortal at a fungal folly delve rez stone, it took me to a new place that was like 45 seconds to clear and counted as a delve run. pretty neat, is that a random chance to spawn or what
Rogues, where do I go to complete this?
Yea but what area
literally any legion zone
i think the meta was going into eye of azshara and pickpocketing the first area
then resetting it
😭 It says no pockets to pick
Wowhead is useless. There's only old comments
They say to go to Suramer but Suramer has ?? mobs
Im lvl 26 in chromie time
Boooooooooo
used to be so cool, got so much gold from that
had so many spare coins, each week free gold then legion class hall missions
guys what ilvl you will get for m0 like the lowest
1 per 2 week
1 per 2 weeks and when you first get either of 2k m+ score, kill dimensius hc or get 1.6k pvp rating
Oh year i forgor that
Is it warbouneable or only on the character you clean it with ?
Whatever char you clear with
Noice
damn this world boss got hands when you dont know mechanics
Are m0 dungeon resetting weekly or daily ? I know it has change at some point
weekly
You can get it on every char tho
Hum I know the sources for coffer keys have been limited but it seems I got 3 keys after doing the weeklies that award the right cache 🤔
Delve quest gave me one, the 100 titan shards, the special assignment
4 keys per week iirc
If I plan on swapping between sub for raid and assassination for mythic+ should I focus on gearing for sub or ass as a priority?
which bottom is dirtier ?

Dont get haste and youre good
you still get coffer key shards by getting other weekly chests
so try to do them as much as possible if champion delve gear is good for you
Hey, i got a loot on Reshanor with my main, and then i fighted him again with 3 alts but got no loots. Is it even possible ?
is this a visual bug? 694 is the same as the tier 8 delve reward
The special assignment in undermine gave me 2 chests (one s2 and one s3), both containing 50 shards 👍
Not sure if intended 😂
I got 6 or 7 keys
Hacker!!!
Im pretty sure I got more than 4,I log in later and check
You can get 4 from the weekly stuff, but stuff is also dropping shards, so you can get quite a few more
Hope not,got 2 kyveza summon items also
What were you farming
The game
tier items are still included in this weeks vault right? like delve vault hero tier?
Anybody know why my wowhead is all squished to the middle of my screen?
try turning your screen vertically instead
They're optimizing for mobile so they can spam you with legit cancerous ads that are straight out of sketchy porn sites
press the full screen button on the top right
Fullscreen helps but doesn't fix the issue, I'm also on my PC not mobile
I didn't speak to the catalyst guy before doing the weekly activity and getting my fractured spark so I still sitting on 1/2. Any way to fix this or is it just bugged and I'll miss out on a spark till week 3?
if you go to your currency tab what does it show for Starlight Spark Dust?
1/2
have you done all your weekly quests? You can get the second spark half from many different activities
well you will get another half next reset anyway so not w3, but iirc you can still get halves from delves and dungeons (at least m+ dungeons). And if you are behind in halves you should get 2 next reset
I got 1 spark from a delve chest and 1 from the weekly
hmm ok i guess not a big deal if it just catches me up next week. I've done 8 t8 delves too
ty guys
can you not get the Kyveza delve quests yet for the appearance toy?
Did someone mention you needed 9x delve 8's to complete weekly? I remember someone saying the first one is bugged? or am I high? 😛
You can kill her, but cant get quest
And doing difficulty ? atleast doesnt give achievement or anything
So im waiting patiently for next week
ye jumped in just to see how the fight was and didn't get any achieves or anything so I figured part of it is tied to the season launching
pretty fun fight
Ye i like it waaaay more than underpin and zekvir
We can have 4 Pinnacle Chest this week ?
I only had 2 weekly quest, is this a known bug ?
Pinnacle is awarded for special assignments wq as well
I did Special Assignment WQ and Artifact Disk quest
I don't have the Delve weekly quest and Worldsoul quest on my character
Absolutely no idea why
Does the old Special Assignement are valid for season 3 ?
I'll try it I have one left in rining deeps
might be my 4th key
I did get the delve weekly tho
no key no
The max ilvl fore the cape is 707?
This week, yep
I’m picking up Rogue as a main for the first time ever to fill a slot on my raid team. Is there an agreed upon spec that is easier to pick up than the rest? Currently gearing through heroics as Assa
its assa
assa
assa
do you guys play ass or outlaw for world content/delves?
Has anyone been doing the Nightfall event on alts? I've been getting veteran gear but the last run was adventurer or something, have they hotfixed it or something?
pretty sure it's only 1 veteran piece from doing the event and 1 from doing the quest per week
I've been getting veteran from the satchels every hour but the last one was adventurer, gonna try on a different character to test
Yeah it's hotfixed, adventurer track
what is the average min ilvl for m0?
it gives champion gear which starts at 681 so probably a bit below that
!up
It's possible to run multiple times the same m0 ? even without loot ? And if yes, did it count for weekly chest ?
yes
Hey sort of a weird question but coming back to the game to do some casual m+ with friends. Won't push really, just do 12-13s. Tank doesn't like to pull too crazy usually. So my question is at this key level what spec will pump the most overall. Don't really care about utility or prio damage that may effect higher key players. Only goal is have the biggest number at the end of the key to beat my friends
hard to say, all 3 have the potential to do good damage on lower pull sizes.
Best would probably be to just try which spec is the easiest for you to get into
because each of them plays very diffrently and have diffrent learning curves.
@whole linden This discord is not the place for promotion.
I have lots of rogue exp and im confident in being able to play all the specs. (Do tend to not like sin keys tho). So not worried about learning curve
Just havent been playing the game this xpac but friends who play more casually convcince me to come back to do weekly keys with them
Fair, i mean the best is probably just to test all 3 then
especially if pull sizes are inconsistent and routes are not optimized
Yeah thats fair, any just general advice/guess for this. Just so what im trying first is my best guess at what will be best, since swapping might be annoying with diff stats/crafts/embels/trinkets or weps if outlaw
thats why its easy to test now
you can do the m0 world tour
and see what spec performs best
without any of the problems
and then decide based on that
When im playing with my friends im a big fan of the Sprint > Pull the entire dungeon > cloak > run back to them > Vanish > hearth tech
easy crafts
ok what about best raid spec, i played outlaw and parsed a few 99s but dont know if i should stick it
Better to post in your servers trade chat as crafting orders aren’t cross server
ive done crafting orders cross server im sure, unsure if they were in my realm group or not tho
Well this isn’t the place either way
Best is the one you have most fun on
can anyone help?
did token market dry up
Be sure you're in the right realm
That might be causing some kind of problem
im on the right realm
Then send a ticket in game
is ist possible to get the belt form overcharged delves at this week ? or not ?
You can complete all the quests on regular delves now, just did it yesterday. Overcharged are gone now
this seems spicy
Talk to the lil console in dorn at the delve HQ
He doesn't know…
am i insane or is one of those effect PNGs just Kirby
took a while but i see your point 🙂
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is tier 7 the highest credit you can get in vault this week for delves?
!up
do them on 8
Does any smart person know why I cannot grab the Ka'resh campaign quest?
I just came back from DF, is there some pre requisite I have to complete?
likely have to skip the main campaign
but not 100% sure
think brann or faelin have an option
John underpin - its not war with others but the true war is the one within

guys im struggling to get the belt from 11.1.7 this is a fresh 80 character. i dodnt get anithing as quest or something to get the quesline for the belt. can anyone maybe help me.
im also didnt see an overcharged delve on the map but i have a weekly to complete 1 overcharged delve
you dont need to do overcharged delves anymore
abandon that quest then get the one from the machine next to brann
hello people, trying getting back to rogue since wod 🙂 what spec should i play in m+?
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Do you like spreading dots and bleeds and watching your enemies rot to death? Assassination!
Do you like utilizing the shadows to do massive damage windows when in your cooldown? Subtlety!
Do you like being a cracked out go go go spec with high apm? Outlaw!
i like playing the strongest stuff overall 🙂
Then don't play rogue 🙂
Nah Assa is bonkers in M+ most likely
but requires the team to play around it to get the most of it
yeah, the stealth condition to spread bleeds sounds annoying when your tank chainpulls stuff
its not that much of a loss as many think
assa looks strongest right now, can change
A silly question: what does the “fall” in “Hallowfall” refer to?
Have someone already killed princess Ky'veza in a new delve on rogue?
second level difficulty
ANyone know fastest EU delve today?
On 2nd level? That’s impressive!! - particularly when most guides are saying it’s impossible on a DPS spec.
just need to spread out your defensives as rogue its a long fight though
The speed of the guessing game is what's throwing me atm
why is it impossible? due to the damage taken? Because it felt comfortable on outlaw in that regard
you do get the usual vanish risks though
we playing a soulslike or what
To be clear I’m just saying they are saying it’s impossible, which clearly it is possible. But their justification is the white dmg is simply too high for DPS at current item levels
i haven't tried it yet but can't you make brann tank it with tricks?
that was clear no worries. The damage felt ok but maybe it becomes overwhelming as the fight drags out. She has over a billion health so it can take a while
(that was with healer brann)
guys how to spend valorstones now? im capped and all the quest/world quest valorstones are gonna go to waste
to clarify i usually set my brann to healer and make him tank anyways
whenever I tried that it felt worse than me tanking
both for sub & outlaw
but I haven't tried that on her specifically
nice
which spec are you guys playing in raid next week?
Sub
@viscid cradle
^
strange af, prob a browser plugin who fk
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adding these entires to ublock origin deletes the padding on the left and right
I mean, until they shit up the website some more that is
might be worth to link in a way to allow people to copy/paste
Like this
you're not wrong. one moment please
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the ! text is comment text so it's not completely necessary to copy it
use 3 of them so its an entire codeblock
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the ! text is comment text so it's not completely necessary to copy it
Does anyone know a good discord server for professions like herbalism and alchemy?
now i got to figure out how to add those to brave
You download firefox and then add it to ublock
if u use brave you can add this to shields - custom filters
www.wowhead.com##.sidebar-wrapper
Fuck off
no u
True
interesting aproach
But fr, I hope they change their minds on this
Idk feel like youll just be able to reset
Or the way it works right now it sounds like you can just go through it on alts and then log over and do last boss on mains
Which sounds unintended
Well see what the folks on the north alpha (NA) realms do with it
Actually good call
its the worst thing in the game i hate how they thought that was a good idea
real
i mean dude putting the highest gear behind it
idk i just see it as being bad for the community
and for vibes
imo imo
You dont get mythic gear if u dont kill the mythic raid boss so you dont get mythic gear if you dont do a +10 deathless
Theyll probably change it to be resetable (if it isnt already)
I thinm thats fair
i mean, its kinda how they try to implement a mythic drop chance for raiders that still has the ussual mythic gear things (aka 1x a week)
yeah the part about only having a single attempt is my only issue
i dont think its fair but thats fine
imagine dcing and gg get fucked for the week
right

pretty tone deaf from blizzard, they should know how a not small part of the community will react to someone failing in the dungeon, would be better if you could try again, dungeon will be long enough because everyone gonna pull like they are on hardcore wow.
Nah dc isnt a death
aka then its just like it was before?
i mean dude my guild is more than good enough to do it i just dont think its a good idea man
like im not worried about me or my friends just i think its a shit idea
afaik you didnt have a single shot a week before
Yeah i think theres gonna be a reset thing
so no
i mean wioth gear
not like it was before
L blizzard
mfs get an additonal chance for mythic gear and IMMEDIATLY complain
actual insanity lol
never beating the "wow players would complain about getting free mythic gear in the mailbox" allegations
i mean i dont have strong opinions on it either way, but its fair to call out when something is (apparently) implemented in a bad way
because no one will see it that way, everyone will see it as a "you need to do it"-Situation, not a "Nice to have"-Situation
i mean, honestly
its a non-scaling dungeon
if you still struggle with that in 2 months, its kinda a Skill Issue at that point and you should not complain about it (and i hate saying skill issue, but it IS true in that case)
I think instead of deathless they could cap it to a certain amount of deaths if they dont want it to be resetable for some reason
Like uhh 3 deaths
Idk
and before that its a reward for playing very clean on something that will be challenging
the deathless part isnt unreasonable, thats perfectly fine
its the not being able to reset part
which again, may not even be real
because wowhead is wowhead
wdym, wowhead would NEVER do clickbait and fabricate outrage titles or articles
its just bad since its weighted so
heavy at the beginning that people are going to feel terrible at large
for failing
its not good for vibes and the community trustttt
get your 8 split alts ready, everytime you fail with it in week1-2 that character might aswell get deleted

yes i peak at 3/8mythic, why do you ask?
on ??, got bitch slapped
rwf is decided by who has the least mishaps in tazavesh
You already get the funky mana skimmer right
wha
but ye, the entire thing is
i have no idea
if people think thats something you can pug
lol
lmao even
maybe in week 60 where stuff dies in 50seconds before mechanics happen
the average reddit poster be like:
Did they have something like that in Dragonflight too?
I just read somewhere that there was something similar there, but without this once-a-week opportunity.
skipped that addon
mega dungeons had a optional hardmode, and if you did them with no deaths you got a better drop at the end, yes
OG taza had it aswell
but no mythic item, it was a heroic item
yeah hardmode is nothing new, its just the one shot or get fucked part thats new
was that megadungeon tuned like a 10 Key ?
on hardmode, you kinda could say so tbh
probs harder with the no deaths requirment
cus +10 keys let you fail trought them anyway
shoulda kept it heroic
how we feeling S3?
rogue has been on the bench for a few expac. Been doing the 123123123 on ret for a bit.
S3 didnt even start yet, sooooo.............
ptr is up again
With m+ or
We survive
hello fellow rogues!! does anyone knows where to find a spreadsheet with tier set gains?
thx in advance!
on it. 👍
Anyone elses Brann been straight up lobotomised? feel like in half my combats he just sits around thumbing his hole
Yo guys. Just a general question. I am currently creating a online tool for wow. This is a tool that allows you to practice your rotation outside of WoW. Of course, there are limitations. The tool has implemented all classes, all specs, and all skills, and allows you to bind them to different keys.
You can then start the simulation and practice your rotation. This is checked in parallel with the current apl, and errors and improvements are listed in a log. I'm still working on the implementation for proccs, etc., but do you think something like this would be of use in the WoW scene?
I can’t tell if spam or not
hi guys. i have a bug. i have equipped a new waist and it turned grey and i cant move from that slot in bags neither i have it equipped. any ideas?
don't see that many advantages over hitting dummies ingame
thats the point. its just a small project in my free time but i do sit in the office the whole day. i can simply open up this application and train my rotation
getting some muscle memory. also this tool will tell you what you did wrong during your rotation
i am still debating on releasing it when its stable or not
also, it would be only useful for a tiny portion of players as an average wow enjoyer simply does not care enough to improve at spec
I mean really tiny
yeah thats why i am not sure if i want to release this
still pretty neat tho
IM DEAD
still working on gcd and casttime sync etc but thats simplified how it will work on the app
i mean you dont have your curios anymore
and the robot dinos and bloprint did a shit ton of damage
Guys do you have this error too with the new wa smart misdirect ?
Is energy regen like.. real bad right now?
"right now"?
Also no, works as intended
i think its kinda useless if you cant use your own ui you know, half the work of learning a spec is learning how to read your weak aura pack and react to it
Hello, I just realized that my ~30 chests bought 350valorstones unit last season disapeared from my bank
Is it intentional from blizzard ?
!up
Prob due to bank rework
Would assume they gonna show up eventually
Did we get any changes in the upcoming class tuning? Can't opet Wowhead at the moment.
afaik no
wdym bad
well, Boomy just got buffed...so on Wowheads Raid tier list the bottom five are all three rogue specs, feral and arms haha.
But I'm just being a meme
oh
yeah tierlists are not something we really care about
we already play rogue regardless
Sub is S rank
Assa is also S rank
Outlaw, sadly, isn't, because it doesn't have an S in the name so it's only A rank.
why does that tier list have a D and F tier but not E?
Rogue is not looking good in pure st atm tho right?
Does anyone know of a good way to plan CDs and other things (like reapplying ruptures before an intermission) during a boss' timeline? I was going to make a spreadsheet for it, but figured I'd check first to see if there's a site/ tool that people use for it?
Liquid Reminders, it's a paid weakaura though. Method Raid Tools has a version that some people say work pretty well. Or you can use the old school MRT note + Kaze MRT Timers WA
In the US that's how school grading is. A, B, C, D, F . They skip E because people confused it for meaning "Excellent" when getting their grades back XD
Thanks I'll check these out!
that sounds dumb
really? And they don't confuse B for Best, or C for Crap? 
take it up with early 1900s Americans lol
shrieking quartz already usable this week? heard something about it not dropping a map and champ piece yet?
you can use em
but they dont do anything apart from summoning her
she doesnt dro anyhting
so the loot is only available starting next week ye?
it's not available this week
This week, she will just drop 35 valorstones
dont buy the item that summons her if you farm portals, you cold get some
like 1 every 50-100 portals
and you would like to do 160 portals in a +11 to get enough undercoins to buy all the new things
ye I just dropped one on my alt

hello, what is the best rogue spec ST right now?
on sims, outlaw, in actual raid likely Assa
got itt
Is the next wow expansion the final one?
no
It’s called midnight it seems
thats the 2nd of the 3 announced
Wthelly

Oh theyre all titan based


can we export/import keybinds?
yes
World of Warcraft_retail_\WTF\Account\STRING_OF_NUMBERS\SERVER_OF_THE_CHARACTER\CHARACTER
then copy the "bindings-cache.old" and "bindings-cache.wtf" into another CHARACTER folder
just use myslot
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Which rogue spec utilizes stealth / vanish for dps the least in a raid setting?
assa/sub
sub the least, assa can spec into not doing anything with Vanish other than reapplying DSM if you managed to lose it or really need to switch (that was the preferred build in S2 and S3 seems to not have changed that)
That is so interesting and seems kind of backwards lmao... thanks! I was gonna try outlaw this tier after not having played it since WoD but having so much power baked into vanish is sketching me lol
it is backwards as fuck
what vault slot does kyveza ?? corresponds to? same as delves lvl8?
ye probs, previous bosses did that
Guys can i ask something about the campaign in 11.2
is it worth skipping in alt account the start of 11.2?
i ask this because it gives a solid starting gear but i dont know if i skip it can i get that gear afterwards?
dont worry gear comes from many places
Alright so guild does not have rogue, I've become designated rogue. How do I decide between Ass and Sub? The playstyle seems similar enough at least in dungeons
It’s just a dps cooldown, same as shadow dance for sub etc. I’m guessing there’s something else about the gameplay you don’t like
is there any recommended specs for delves or all the specs are equal?
so 694 from vault t8 delves is hero, 691 from m0 is champion. nm
Ky'veza ?? is considered as T11 itself
that's why you need to unlock T10 before being able to go ??
but well, the vault is locked at T8 max, even if you do more it's the exact same reward
it's (at the very least) aesthetically displeasing to me, and I'm sure to many others
and part of liking a spec/class is aesthetics
some people can play things just because the numbers are good or the playstyle meshes with them and flavour can be whatever, some don't like it
Imho assi is easier to start with than sub is. I don't play outlaw...
Don't self advertise
Have been.playing ass and its great in dungeons but I realised that once it goes to single target, my dps drops off drastically compared to other classes. Will the other 2 specs be better off in ST or do I hv to play other classes to be competitive in raid
Assassination in dungeons isnt the same assassination in raid
in dungeons you sacrifice a LOT of single target talents for AoE
So you are saying once we talent swap to raid, ass ST will be much better? Haven tried it this week since raid is not out yet amd I dont play ptr
Yes, assassination ST is good enough
all the top rogues in m+ dm me for something special
no
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Any chad multispec here that prog mythic raid, what spec are you gonna play?
Mage
The dagger specs
And i will copy whatever the goodest players will do
Swaping from ass to sub and the other way around is not that difficult in terms of gear
So just go with the dagger specs
Why don't you talk to your raid leader and just commit to outlaw like a chad and stick with it
Hahaha
If you enjoy law the most, go for it
Its just hard to justify playing outlaw in prog thinking about it logically
Unless your raid leader is also a chad member and goes with it and just tells you to pull your own weight
"logically" its so much worse too not just play your most comfortable spec lol
i can gurantee that nobody except a handfull of people here ever did content where the spec numbers did any real difference at all
99,9% of wipes are cus of people fucking up mechanics, not because of spec choice 
True
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