subtlety

[haughty mural]

damn you guys
i can only speak 3 easy west eu languages

[lilac stag]

I will say, you never know where conversations gonna go in this channel

I love it

[keen dome]

that's a lot, and owns

I can barely speak english

[lilac stag]

Come to America. You’d fit in

[keen dome]

No thanks I'm in England

[tribal blade]

bri'ish

[haughty mural]

Oi

[tribal blade]

i grew up around brits

[lilac stag]

A number of folks I train with (doggo stuff) are English

[tribal blade]

who would quote snatch every day

[lilac stag]

5 minutes Turkish

[haughty mural]

tbf nobody here in germany does speak german

[tribal blade]

one of my british friends memorized the entire monologue the bad guy does lol

[lilac stag]

Lock stock and Snatch are sooo good

[tribal blade]

it was 3 minutes 5 minutes ago

[tribal blade]

i'm trying to get my guildie to watch snatch but she doesn't like british accents

[lilac stag]

bullet tooth tony

[keen dome]

valid, imo

[tribal blade]

innit

[keen dome]

Show her some black country dialect, honestly. It'd be funny.

[lilac stag]

tell her they’re pikey accents

[tribal blade]

i'll show her paddy the baddy some time lol

[keen dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJHa5aN1Uus&

It's great.

[tribal blade]

i usually don't have any issues with british accents

but this one is hard

[sour horizon]

Girls love the scouse accents xD

[tribal blade]

i can understand 50% of what he's saying

[tribal blade]

SCOUSER

[keen dome]

It's hard for most people in England. They drop a lot of stuff, like H's.

[lilac stag]

https://youtu.be/En3MdYQn7b0

[tribal blade]

d'ya like dags?

[lilac stag]

Ye I like dags

[tribal blade]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YMKPDuUqEmI

[haughty mural]

[tribal blade]

kinda funny the UK has produced some of the craziest MMA fighters ever

michael bisping fought like 11 fights with 1 eye

and fooled the commission into thinking he had 2

because they wouldn't have let him fight with just 1

and now paddy the baddy

[lilac stag]

Cigarette Alcohol & Fists

[tribal blade]

oh and connor mcgregor

how could i forget him

technically irish but still

[sour horizon]

Easily

[tribal blade]

i saw there's a resurgence of young irish people learning how to speak irish

which is pretty cool

[keen dome]

I wish we could forget him

[tribal blade]

yeah that was an interesting person to follow

[haughty mural]

didnt he try to get elected ?

[swift tinsel]

yeah

in a truly wild move

[haughty mural]

and then suddenly ended his election bid

[keen dome]

He's a really awful person, so.

[swift tinsel]

and got like zero votes to be put on the ballot

[keen dome]

Just.. a whole thing.

[idle aurora]

We have a Chinese place by our house that’s very traditional it was a wild experience my first time there. They have all hot pots and stuff on the bone meats and do all the traditional dishes with feet and intestine and stuff. I never have any idea what I’m actually ordering cause I have nothing to compare it to. Nothing is like the fake American counterparts. I love that place their scallion pancakes are like eating heaven when you put duck in them.

[keen dome]

Hell yeah

[tribal blade]

oh yeah i'm used to all that weird stuff haha

feet and all that

when i was a kid i used to play with the chicken's heads they would serve alongside the entire chicken dish

and play with the eye sockets

and the beak

[keen dome]

My favourite Chinese meal was at the Wong Kei in london's China Town. it was incredible as an experience, but this was back in uh.. 2014? 2015? A long time ago. Extremely good, very traditional as I understand it.

[tribal blade]

eating chinese food means eating the entire animal

[idle aurora]

I want to learn cause I want to get a hot pots but I’m always too afraid to ask lol it’s always like some family or group of friends de of 4+ people with them

[keen dome]

While I can't deal with that, I have a lot of respect for that level of usage of a dead animal.

[tribal blade]

yeah it's cool 😉

it's good to because you learn to not be squeamish

[keen dome]

Ye

[tribal blade]

i'm a very picky eater, but i can eat almost anything

[tribal blade]

oh there's no wrong way to do it lol

[hollow spear]

That's why I just mix and match the stuff about cultures I like

[tribal blade]

you just need the hot pot, you make the soup broth and buy some raw ingredients to cook

[hollow spear]

I don't like eating the whole animal, so I don't do that 😄

[tribal blade]

like beef and pork strips

[idle aurora]

When we went to a kaiseki resturaunt in Japan. I found out that even though I’m the pickiest eater I’ll try anything. that experience was wild. Japanese people are like eat this both Luke warm and cold dish that both soft slimy and pops.

[tribal blade]

oh yeah i love raw sashimi

[keen dome]

I'm vegeterian, haha. So I just don't eat meat. but I respect the attitude to use the whole animal. I hate the wastefulness of a lot of western stuff.

oh man I miss sashimi

[tribal blade]

yeah it's the best

[keen dome]

Salmon sashimi is so fucking good

[idle aurora]

Seriously just be like hot pot me? I never know if I need to pick my meats or vegetables

[keen dome]

put it all in the hot pot

I've seen people put potato into a hot pot which seems weird to me but apperently it's really good?

[tribal blade]

if you're not sure you can ask your family or friends for sure

[idle aurora]

There is def a language barrier my wife and I are usually a very much out of place there

[tribal blade]

yeah that's normal too

that's not the weirdest thing

last time we did it my mom was putting in dried fish skin

[idle aurora]

Dude

[hollow spear]

I've seen people put unspeakable things in their hot pots

[tribal blade]

yeah the chinese are not scared about weird food haha

[hollow spear]

Looked like it spawned from another dimension

[keen dome]

hahaha

Army Stew has American Cheese sometimes I think?? i guess it isn't a hot pot but what.

[idle aurora]

Jesus hard pass

[hollow spear]

If you magnified that stuff by 100x, it would make a formidable raid boss in wow

[tribal blade]

https://youtu.be/2t7Sx8bx2nU?si=fNKil7VTwk1TEM9c&t=104 like this

crazy movie btw

[hollow spear]

not sure I wanna watch that

sussy

[tribal blade]

he makes a gun out of chinese food bones

not even joking

i don't think many people have watched this movie

[keen dome]

lmao

[lilac stag]

We’ve got “drunk taco” it’s basically a basic bitch street taco, flour tortilla. Usually pulled pork or chicken with a sauce. American Cheese slice for the cheese. They’re so bad and so amazing at the same time.

[keen dome]

Hell yeah

I guess England's version is doner kebab? I've never had any thogh

[hollow spear]

I haven't eaten a good kebab in such a long time

getting big cravings rn

[lilac stag]

Costco started selling them frozen. 6 mins in the air fryer and absolute gold.

[hazy breach]

The good kebab shop near me closed like 3 months ago

[hollow spear]

I hope you all held a vigil

[lilac stag]

Unluck

[austere spear]

sheesh kebabs sound good might have to make some at home

[hollow spear]

15 years back, as a teenager, we had so many good kebab places

I didn't realize back then how good I had it

[lilac stag]

Everything is closing here. Yay fascist tarrifs.

[hollow spear]

now there's still a lot of kebab places, but they're all arse

[haughty mural]

a german invention ofc

[hollow spear]

industrial yufka bread that tastes like plastic

[keen dome]

we just steal everything of value. see the britihs museum

[fallow nimbus]

Döner for 3.50€. Good times

[hollow spear]

How much is that in DM?

[swift tinsel]

weird as it sounds it adds a bit of umami creaminess to stuff when it melts

[keen dome]

Ye, i can get it but it always looks funny

[haughty mural]

i pay 11€ for mine together with the typical drink

[keen dome]

How much garlic sauce

[swift tinsel]

oh yeah it looks goofy af just seeing a slice of american cheese lol

[hollow spear]

Yes

[lilac stag]

One of my students is Ukrainian. Her mom made some type of strawberry wafer dessert. Holy shit I ate sooooo much, and dosed so much insulin. Sooooo good.

[hazy breach]

Ye but presumably thats today in 2026 and not like 2010

[swift tinsel]

ukrainian food is incredible

I miss it so much

[hollow spear]

never had Ukrainian food

[swift tinsel]

was eating my weight in deruny like every day

[austere spear]

I miss polish food. Had a festival here in the states once i worked security for they gave us plates of food for free

[lilac stag]

Polish food is, well the vodka is great.

[keen dome]

My first Uni was in a town made up of polish and pakistani immigrants. It owned. Just such good food culture, man.

[lilac stag]

The deserts are great

[hollow spear]

Polish food is very hearty, at least the stuff I've tried

[austere spear]

Yeah i had a lot of their pancakes and sausage. Also had some polish beer not a fan though

[lilac stag]

Everything else, at least from where my family was from was very dense and heavy.

[swift tinsel]

was there for a month for a dig and we went to kyiv lviv and a few other spots and it was one of the best times of my life

chilling at the voda club

big ol manmade lake up in the mountains

bukovel is a magical place

[lilac stag]

Kolaczki & Paczki…. DELICIOUS

[austere spear]

what is that

[swift tinsel]

oh yeah IL has little warsaw lol

[lilac stag]

fruit cookies & Polish donuts

[austere spear]

Sounds good

[lilac stag]

And by donut I mean child’s birthday cake in size

[swift tinsel]

paczki are a godsend tho

so, so good

whole day named after them lol

yesterday?

[hazy breach]

Yea

[lilac stag]

Feb 9th

Also Fat Tuesday

Also Pulaski Day in Chicago.

[swift tinsel]

its all German heritage up here so I forget some of the other cultural happenings lol

explains why theres a church and a brewery/bar on every block

[lilac stag]

Nice thing about Chicago. Melting Pot

[swift tinsel]

just gotta knock down trump tower

[lilac stag]

Running the marathon is an actual cultural experience

Sooooo many neighborhood you visit

[swift tinsel]

I haven't been down there in a while, last time was a concert in like 2019?

at the huntington bank pavilion

[lilac stag]

It’s still the same. Just pushed more of the project housing out on the south side

[swift tinsel]

ah yeah I pretty much only ever really hung around state street or the museum

[lilac stag]

So they either have gone to Indiana or Dekalb of all places

[swift tinsel]

man you couldn't pay me to go to Indiana

its like the most drab area of the midwest

[lilac stag]

The tax break is only reason

[swift tinsel]

outside of Indianapolis

or Scary Gary

ah yeah that's a pretty compelling reason lol

[hollow spear]

@lilac stag what was the breakpoint for 2 extra globals during dance again?

[hazy breach]

Keep in mind that 0.2s is still pretty tight, and coup takes another 0.2s

[lilac stag]

ye air on the side of .4

[hollow spear]

around 640ish should be fine ig

[hazy breach]

Aim for 700 or so is what i would say

[hollow spear]

dang

[lilac stag]

It’s still pretty easy on beta

[hollow spear]

every patch, I hate the coup delay a little more

[lilac stag]

Yup

[alpine wraith]

yea best thing you can do unless you have demon ping because you are eu like is

try with around 640 etc then see if 700 is better

try to make last global a strike to know if 100% you are getting that shit in

[hollow spear]

not the worst ping I guess

[vestal escarp]

Shopped?

[hollow spear]

No

[vestal escarp]

🧢

[hollow spear]

Maybe they have their server in my basement

No idea

[shadow lance]

Colo's neighbour is blizzard

Rj45 plugged right in the server

[open coyote]

in prepatch for raid/m+ what is actually best now after the nerf/buffs

[hazy breach]

[lilac stag]

Do you want to be 10th or 11th on damage meters?

[graceful osprey]

3588 haste it is lol

[hollow spear]

make it 3700 to be safe

[vale pine]

lol

[shadow lance]

Def my kind of joke

But who's 12th ,13th and 14th?

[alpine wraith]

the arms warr and others

[vestal escarp]

3700 is a lot

Stat squish my ass

[lilac stag]

Arms warrior, the two - three carries, tanks then healers.

[vestal escarp]

Should have one less 0

[hazy breach]

You cant get 3700

You have like 2k stats total in s1

[hollow spear]

We'll probably end up going for 700 haste and then go for whatever other stat sims best

[dry plank]

we'll probably play assa 🙂 after 3 buffs in a row for them in upcoming tuning

[shadow lance]

That's what I thought

[alpine wraith]

dont worry we are the best at sniping adds

so at least first 2 or 3 weeks we will show good

because it seems snapping apex on sec tech is not as bad we can just hodl

then enter dance with apex and sec tech coup

[vestal escarp]

This guy gets it already

[ripe flame]

me when the lowest my ping has ever been is 102ms

[hollow spear]

Saying that we'll play sin is not doomer enough. I believe rogue will be so bad that we are going to be permanently benched during S1.

And even if rogue is good in S2, we will stay benched to make sure we understand how bad rogue was in S1.

[lilac stag]

Sweet. Vacation time.

[torn tide]

is sub bad in ST?

i feel like my dps always looks nice until bossfights where it just drops

[main falcon]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[alpine wraith]

yea sub rn is kinda lower tier

[main falcon]

Do we have Midnight racial sims?

[torn tide]

damn

do u think apex will change that tho

[alpine wraith]

we wont know until things happen

they could buff us two or three times

or maybe even four

[hollow spear]

I won't take any less than five

[lilac stag]

Rogue is low tier.

[dry plank]

I’m trialing as rogue in new guild which already has rogue so I’ll be benched all 3 seasons if rogue would be bad 🙂

[lilac stag]

Trial as something new?

[keen dome]

it's time to start a rogue off

[hollow spear]

Maybe they'll release a fated season just so that you can get benched 4 seasons

[lilac stag]

Maybe dmg amp phases will save sub

[graceful osprey]

Defy and rebel, play sub anyways

[sullen hare]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-eight-ball-signs-no-gif-12565031

[lilac stag]

If guy starts dooming we’re cooked. Until then

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-cooper-andrew-dance-cooper-dance-feeling-dance-dance-gif-4719076827571292026

[sullen hare]

until then we're surfing I guess

👍
🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[lilac stag]

🏄 🏄‍♀️ 👍

when Stealthi drops rogue for Devourer an they run zero rogues, we’re cooked.

[keen dome]

I'll balance it.

Only sub rogues in my pugs

[lilac stag]

On god I bet max couldn’t fill a pug of only sub rogues.

Would have to tap into pvp community

[keen dome]

I bet I could

Although we'd have to define what 'fill' really is, and the tank / healer stuff

[alpine wraith]

dont worry sub will be the best prog spec once again

then fall off a cliff 2 weeks in

but at least everyone kills all the bosses in 2 weeks am i right

[torn tide]

LOL

surely it will be good in mythic

i believe

[alpine wraith]

by all means it is likely

lots of cleave and maybe prio targets to burst where we can be good

problem is as people get more gear

a spec that does 30% more dps

might be a bit more useful

[torn tide]

lol u mean mage?

[keen dome]

@lilac stag What would you accept as 'filling' a raid with Sub rogue. Hypothetically

[alpine wraith]

well for now demo and arcane yes

[torn tide]

still seems busted after the nerf but arcane is long gone tho

[alpine wraith]

but we wont know until literally

week 2 of raid

when the cool raid opens in mythic

so maybe even week 3

i donder if they do it like terrace or you can just natty go

to get your shit pushed in

on the 1 or 2 boss raid

[torn tide]

how are yall planning to spend ur 3 days early access of midnight btw?

[fallow nimbus]

Leveling 3 chars

[torn tide]

im wondering if i should just play it slow with quests levelling or just spam normal dungeons to 90

[dense geode]

you have to do the main story anyhow

[torn tide]

or maybe main story quests day 1 then spam dungeons after LOL

[fallow nimbus]

First char is always quests for story avs and such

[keen dome]

Leveling. Doing cool world content. Pet battles. Finding cool stuff. Doing all the content available. Being annoying in trade chat. Hanging out in the cat café

[alpine wraith]

leveling chars and working on cornering 1 or 2 markets

i need my boe money

only have like 3 mil rn

[swift tinsel]

are professions unlocked with EA

if so imma be a leveling and gathering machine

[keen dome]

Yeah.

Although not everything is, iirc.

I really, really wish they'd put EA in a pre-order like 14 does it. Instead of the highest tier. It's so scummy even though it is incredibly whatever.

[swift tinsel]

I'd imagine gathering is but possibly not crafting profs

[keen dome]

Crafting profs were in TWW but stuff didn't drop

Like the recipes from delves just weren't dropping

[swift tinsel]

ah yeah like the non-gathered mats

or that

[keen dome]

Also no sparks until the launch, etc, etc.

[fallow nimbus]

That's my money in my warbank

[swift tinsel]

I'll probs be gambling on alchemy profs since experimenting for them is ass

[alpine wraith]

yea you want to focus on engi and leatherworking

[torn tide]

ngl even tho ive played wow for years, ive never actually touched pet battles

[alpine wraith]

things like enchanting etc wont get the cool recipes

[swift tinsel]

I just like making all my own consumes if I can

and sell the multicrafts

[keen dome]

A good buddy of mine is currently working on leveling and collecting every pet, and getting all pet battle achievements.

Absolute powerhouse of a player. I just collect 'em

[torn tide]

i wonder what level will be acceptable to do mythic0 and + in midnight lmao its gonna be fun

[torn tide]

holy, taking wow pokemon to another levdl

[keen dome]

Heroic dungos drop 224 or something

[swift tinsel]

probs mix of heroic gear and some crafted stuff

[keen dome]

so just get that gear

[swift tinsel]

ye

[alpine wraith]

m0 are diff since quite a bit

they drop same day as m+

because they give champion gear

[keen dome]

And then do M0's and then do normal/heroic raid. We don't ave Mythic or M+ the first week of the season

[swift tinsel]

its still weekly lockout for m0 right

or daily

[keen dome]

No clue

[alpine wraith]

daily is hc unless doing it on finder

[keen dome]

Not even sure we have M0 until the season? They aren't clear.

[torn tide]

it should be weekly

[alpine wraith]

m0 is weekly

[swift tinsel]

thought so ty

[alpine wraith]

yea m0 is when s1 begins

[keen dome]

So the first three weeks is world content, heroics to all slots, crafted, questing.

[alpine wraith]

mostly

[keen dome]

Then M0 + LFR/Normal/Heroic on Week 1 of the season

[alpine wraith]

likely hoard as many mats as you can

[keen dome]

Then M+ onwards from week 2.

[alpine wraith]

then sell on week 2

[torn tide]

pit of saron looks great with the last boss having new mechs

[alpine wraith]

of s1

[keen dome]

LFR has huge value week 1 for sets

With the catalyst change. In theory anyway.

[torn tide]

sounds about right

[swift tinsel]

wait what catalyst change

[keen dome]

Getting a 4-set unlocks an achievement that lets catalyst charges drop from raid or dungeonc ontent

[alpine wraith]

we will do lfr as a guild likely

[torn tide]

oh wow

[swift tinsel]

um what.

[keen dome]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-ways-to-earn-catalyst-charges-in-midnight-378693

[swift tinsel]

do they just not get granted at all

besides that

[swift tinsel]

or in addition

[keen dome]

In addition.

[swift tinsel]

oh thank god lol

was gonna say that is a pure shit ass system

lmao

[keen dome]

But it lets you slam a Vet piece if you have to, to get 4-set

And not get royally fucked over, in theory

It's a huuuuge quality of life to the catalyst

[swift tinsel]

yeah

[keen dome]

In theory. until we know drop rate likelyhood..

[alpine wraith]

depends on what type of player you are if you do some m+ to get gear it is very normal to get extra charges i guess

[swift tinsel]

assuming they still cap at 8

unless its 1 per week

[keen dome]

Yeah, no clue.

[astral axle]

w change now revert the crest upgrade changes and we're chillin

[swift tinsel]

hmm this could be good or very bad

[keen dome]

I don't think there's any downside.

It's simply more chances to get Catalyst charges once you have 4-set. Even if it's a low drop chance, it's there.

At worst it's just the same as it is right now.

I'd guess it's a rare, but consistent drop since it can come from M+ and it does cap at 8.

So it's farmable (or they state it should be in the blurb)

If a player decides to spend that charge and then receives that Hero helm, it may have to sit in their bags for up to two weeks before it can effectively be equipped. This change should empower players to chase their seasonal class set bonuses early on without reservation with the knowledge that additional Catalyst charges will likely be farmable for them just several weeks into the season.

[vale pine]

time to play pvp again?

[keen dome]

Haha

[hazy breach]

Its to make it so people dont sit on their charges because they only have "hc" or "normal" pieces to catalyse

[keen dome]

If the drop chance is at all solid, it should be great. But so much will hinge on the drop chance.

Yeah

[hazy breach]

So that people feel free to just send it and get tier because theyll have enough to transform a mythic piece if they get it a week later

[alpine wraith]

yea it is a good change

otherwise people would just hold forever for the hc pieces or mythic

as the "best" way to do it if you do enough content

[keen dome]

We saw it this expansion. Sitting on stuff for ages.

It wasn't fun or rewarding

[torn tide]

thats actually sick, i can just get the heroic dungeon gear and make that a tierset then

[alpine wraith]

yea have to sit on crests to craft have to sit on charges in case the x thing drops and not lose a charge

the idea is that also you can get normal or vetetan and send it to get 4 set

and just cata the hc one later

[keen dome]

I don't think you can catalyst Adventure gear (Which is what Heroic dungo is, iirc). Just Vet and up?

[alpine wraith]

and THEN cata the M ones

[swift tinsel]

yeah just vet and up

[keen dome]

Yeah, it's Adventurer in Heroic dungos

So M0 gear you can catalyse.

[swift tinsel]

!fuu

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[torn tide]

oh so i cant catalyst until i get m0 gear alrightt thanks

m0 is champion right?

[swift tinsel]

!up

[wicked jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1463210920976056351/dark.jpg

[torn tide]

this is the one right?

also wew light mode, suddenly i gained the blinding light ability

[keen dome]

M0 is Vet in-game atm.

[alpine wraith]

ingame m0 is champion for TWW but might change in midnight

still works to cata i guess if you can 4 set fast

[keen dome]

MIdnight dungeons on M0 show as Vet gear. But this could very easily change in S1.

[alpine wraith]

yea

[vale pine]

ye, should be

[torn tide]

thankyou

[vale pine]

unsure if the crest names are the same

[hollow spear]

I think the hero track thing is wrong

[keen dome]

I believe they're now just Champ / Hero / Myth

[torn tide]

oh maybe they want it to be a new system?

[keen dome]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upgrade-crests-renamed-on-the-midnight-alpha-more-obvious-names-for-each-track-378810

[hollow spear]

Didn't they remove the gilded crest thing for the last two steps of heroic gear?

[keen dome]

Yes.

Each item now uses it's own category and nothing else

i.e, hero is only hero.

[hollow spear]

Because fully upgrading heroic gear was kinda dumb in tww

[vale pine]

oh okay, thats a lot easier then

[keen dome]

Champ only uses Champ crests now, Hero only hero, Myth only Myth.

[swift tinsel]

big W change

[keen dome]

Hero caps at the same ilevel as 2/6 Myth iirc (but the final two steps are huge, so)

Yeah. it's def a good change. Needing more crests each step isn't though.

It's a very annoying decision.

[swift tinsel]

yeahhh that's def gonna cause some big headaches

[hollow spear]

Will they still have the conversion from heroic to mythic?

[sullen hare]

It's still self-sabotage to go 5/6 or 6/6 in the first month or so

[keen dome]

Probably

[torn tide]

time to grind a shit ton

[swift tinsel]

can't grind too much if there's a weekly cap

[hollow spear]

If yes, you still might not spend the heroic ones on the last steps

[vale pine]

the funny gameplay if waiting 3 weeks to upgrade might be the ideal choice

[swift tinsel]

unless its a big cap

[keen dome]

Yeah, haha

[torn tide]

oh tf theres a weekly cap on crests?

well thats not good

[swift tinsel]

always has been

[sullen hare]

just get "natty" 4/6 items

[hollow spear]

Why are you surprised?

Always has been

[torn tide]

hm maybe i jist never noticed

[swift tinsel]

was 90 per week for a while but idk what itll be in midnight

[torn tide]

i thought the cap was on something else idk why

[swift tinsel]

valorstones was also capped

at 2k

[keen dome]

Valorstones are DEAD, though

[swift tinsel]

but that cap never changed

[sullen hare]

there's always a cap for the top 2 since the crest system was announced

[hollow spear]

I've already taken our loot council's children hostage

[keen dome]

Pulling pre-upgraded items from vault now gain a huge advantage

And also crafted items are just.. insane value now??

[hollow spear]

Do we know their ilvls already?

And cost?

[hazy breach]

It already was, its just even moreso now

[swift tinsel]

would assume max -3

[keen dome]

True, but I'd argue this is a huuuuge jump in value.

[hazy breach]

The difference between getting myth 1 items in the dungeon row and myth 3/4 items from raid row

Was already 1/3 or half your weekly crests saved

[sullen hare]

they're the only value now

[hollow spear]

Kinda dislike that

[limber cliff]

if you really want to maximize potential value https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTGkZ2Cjr0jlv90XqW9vy9VXsVucd-yMCgHdyCvX_kQfOrexNDAC7Lf3LifuhqxrcWqJ0W3zIhvK3ii/pub

[keen dome]

I believe crafted is something like.. 286 and cap is 289? I think?

So still -3 from the cap. I forget if they take 90 or 60 to craft though.

[sullen hare]

60

[keen dome]

Such wild value, haha

[sullen hare]

yeah. it remains unchanged which is great. it just solidifies the fact that we're crafting a dagger first because any other use of 60+ gilded is a waste

[keen dome]

Yep

[sullen hare]

well, your first** 60

[alpine wraith]

yea for gilded first 3 sparks or so

you only kinda craft

and pray to get 2 or 3 track myth things from vault

or bosses

[hollow spear]

Time to craft an int dagger then

[limber cliff]

that's assuming the crest upgrade values don't change

[alpine wraith]

well we dont know if they wake up

[keen dome]

They haven't yet but yeah, it could suddenly happen.

[limber cliff]

which they could, because blizzard hasn't officially announced any of this stuff lol

[alpine wraith]

they can backtrack at any time

[keen dome]

It's a weird disparity right now.

[sullen hare]

just make sure to come right back here and ask why your stealth keeps constantly breaking @hollow spear

[keen dome]

I really like all the QoL changes they've made except the increase per level. Just walk that back to 15 per and we're sitting on a real comfy system.

[sour horizon]

Ill take the ramping cost if it means no turbo boost bs

[keen dome]

You know what, I agree with that.

[limber cliff]

I even think the increase per level isn't like the worst idea, but the scaling right now is insane

[keen dome]

My hope is that the fourth raid we're getting in S1 is the alternative to a turbo boost. It'll have some higher iLevel items to chase or something dumb.

[hazy breach]

I would be insanely surprised if they dont do a turboboost

[sullen hare]

I'm with eleem. turbo boost is coming regardless

[limber cliff]

I don't think Turbo boost is going away, it's been fairly successful

[keen dome]

@hazy breach I bet you 5 gold that they don't and the fourth raid in 12.0.7 is in it's place.

[sullen hare]

that's 5 gold you're gonna lose lmao

[limber cliff]

and is mostly harmless

[sour horizon]

Yeah I dont expect it to go away

[sullen hare]

I don't understand why turbo boost is controversial. is the argument that it displaces content that would otherwise launch?

[swift tinsel]

did they turbo boost s1 tww or was s2 the first one

idr

[keen dome]

All three I think?

Let me check.

[sullen hare]

they've done all of them afaik

[sour horizon]

Its basically a timegated grind

[swift tinsel]

I honestly don't remember s1 being turbo boosted

[warm marlin]

dont think s1 had turbo maybe im cooked

[swift tinsel]

or maybe I'm confusing it with dinar

[keen dome]

Googling "Season 1 turbo boost" just gets me Knight Rider stuff.

[warm marlin]

it just had the siren isle ring

[swift tinsel]

bc dinar was s2

[warm marlin]

it def didnt have dinars

[swift tinsel]

yeah

[hazy breach]

People who felt like their characters was done must now log in and farm hundreds of crests

[keen dome]

Yeah, no. I'm wrong. S1 didn't have boost.

[plush roost]

S1 had circes

Cyrces

W.e

[swift tinsel]

fuck that ring lol

[sullen hare]

oh right. the /8 tracks. that makes sense and I had forgotten about that difference

[plush roost]

Prehistoric turbo

[swift tinsel]

"youll replace it with a hero track ring if not sooner"

hmge

[sullen hare]

circes, also known as 20%+ of sub's damage

[plush roost]

Boomkona hehe

[warm marlin]

i thinky that was the other ring introduced in s1 of an expac

[keen dome]

look, they got it wrong twice. That's not their fault.

[plush roost]

Onyx annulet

Was a funny release day

[warm marlin]

yes onyx annulet

[keen dome]

Now if they do the precise same thing a third time..

[swift tinsel]

that's a hat trick!

[plush roost]

Blood arcano duplicate gems

[swift tinsel]

or a turkey

[plush roost]

50% of my damage

[warm marlin]

wtb borrowed power ring in s1 of midnight to make it 3 expacs in a row

[plush roost]

Okiiii

[sour horizon]

Had to nerf the ring twice and it was still goated until mythic with upgrades xD

[plush roost]

Nerfed so fast

[torn tide]

man tww season 1.. good times, grim batol, trina scythe, boralus

[keen dome]

It would be really funny if they do the precise same thing again honestly.

"We're adding a ring. You'll swap it to a hero one soon!"

[swift tinsel]

nah it'll be a belt this ti...

[keen dome]

2/3rd's through Season 2 we're still using it

[swift tinsel]

wait

[keen dome]

Remember the helm enchant.

[swift tinsel]

nope lmao

[sullen hare]

tirna scythe when there's no weak auras and the healer has to go back to doing puzzle solving and healing the dps that stand in every mechanic every pull. I love cortisol!

[swift tinsel]

did they ever fix the one that was supposed to be good but was bugged to hell

[keen dome]

The helm enchant was my favourite one

[swift tinsel]

the helm enchant

[keen dome]

I don't think so

Not for us anyway?

[swift tinsel]

par for the course

[torn tide]

ahh yes the puzzle solving

[swift tinsel]

I 100% forgot about them until a month or two ago when I was doing the 8 mask title achiev runs lol

[torn tide]

i hated grim batol's last boss tho, literally nobody knew what they were doing until u got to higher keys

[swift tinsel]

second boss when people have zero sense of awareness or positioning

and spawned everything in the worst places possible

[keen dome]

that's me

[swift tinsel]

or tank kiting into packs

[torn tide]

nightmare

[keen dome]

Anyone have that gif of grim batol?

the tauren prot getting bonked

[sour horizon]

Lol

[torn tide]

lmfao i remember seeing that

[astral axle]

grim batol was just a stressful dungeon

[sour horizon]

Right out the hallway and falls over

[torn tide]

welp atleast the midnight dungeons arent so bad kindaa

[plush roost]

Timing grim batol without an aug

Was a good time

[hazy breach]

Bro iron wire was so good in grim batol

[keen dome]

First pull of GB in 'higher' (So like, a 12) keys was so funny

In pugs, that is.

[torn tide]

godly silence

[swift tinsel]

this one?

[torn tide]

LOLLL

[swift tinsel]

gets hit in the back and insta-gibbed lol

[torn tide]

bonk

[swift tinsel]

the warlock section was a good time

[warm marlin]

I did a couple meme rogue keys as assa and just spammed it

[mortal snow]

i love this clip

[alpine wraith]

dont worry now as sub we can be cheap shot bots

[swift tinsel]

woo

[alpine wraith]

pog

[swift tinsel]

gotta remember to use my m/o cs

pew pew

[mortal snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/611326455019733014/1233053949305684049/test23456.gif

[alpine wraith]

good thing is they changed dr to not immune

so now literally

you can kidney

into double cs

maybe triple if you use 2 dances

THAT BOI IS NOT CASTIN

[keen dome]

YES

God I love it

[swift tinsel]

triple dance into vanish cs

time it right so kidney is off cd by the end of that last cs

[sour horizon]

Haha was waiting for the DF DH one

[keen dome]

It's so good

But it doesn't beat the paladin getting bonk'd

[swift tinsel]

right pops literally every button but doesn't know your back can't block lol

https://imgur.com/EVRehLn

also the nexus gif

[lilac stag]

Besides jokes?

[torn tide]

"massive dps group"

https://tenor.com/view/fall-kirby-drop-falling-deep-gif-17081698

[keen dome]

Yes. But also, legit.

[alpine wraith]

every day we pray we get the second coming of sludgefist

so people care about atrophic

[lilac stag]

AOTC first 3 weeks, blue minimum no RWF carry.

idk seems decently achievable for good players

[plush roost]

Week 1 ansurek aotc in pugs was still one of the hardest things ive had to do ngl

[lilac stag]

We skipped her week1

[plush roost]

Harder than half of the mythic bosses ive done xddd

[lilac stag]

or maybe did it on our “heroic” optional day

we had to drop Raiders if I remember correctly

[keen dome]

What no I mean a full sub pug

[plush roost]

Oops all sub rogues

Hardest part would be finding 14 sub rogues

[lilac stag]

you said full, so full. Pick your tanks

Wisely

[keen dome]

Haha

[sullen hare]

only off-meta tanks. pwar/bdk

and only off-meta healers

[silent condor]

Hey guys, how is sub doing in beta so far?

[lilac stag]

No healers

[sullen hare]

very purple. a lot like live but with combo point refills

[silent condor]

Saw some twitch stuff with decent aoe damage, how is st ?

[sullen hare]

🔮

[silent condor]

Current beta I mean, hadn't played it

[sullen hare]

yeah, it's beta so the numbers are basically irrelevant

[alpine wraith]

sub is decent but nothing crazy in beta

in live we are dog

[keen dome]

Is it just me, or can you no longer see chat during raid encounters? Like I /rw and people say stuff but it doesn't appear in the chat window at all.

[sullen hare]

I've had to unclick and reclick several of those boxes

because for whatever reason that's what caused them to reappear, specifically system messages

[keen dome]

Aaah

[sullen hare]

it's been a bug since 12.0 iirc

[alpine wraith]

rofl

[sullen hare]

and it's annoying as fuck

[keen dome]

Yeah

I just did a quick dimmy heroic pug lea dnad it's pretty hard to do that when your messages vanish into the ether lmao

[sullen hare]

because you don't see /who messages, guild logons etc

[keen dome]

and I can't see what people are saying

Not being able to see people talking at you while raid leading via text is crippling

Also my details keep breaking in raid content. Annoying

[keen dome]

I was in a raid, but ye that's def my intention. Also no RWF groups. I don't like them. How many AotC's? all 3?

Blue minimum is probably the biggest ask there..

[alpine wraith]

tbh i may join some of the splits with my alts

it is very good for vault

[hazy breach]

Ayo

Ancient Arts2's Sht stacks does not get doubled by Shadowcraft

Was fixed too, you now get 2 sht

@plush roost @warm marlin 📈

Maybe we dont even need 13% haste anymore

[keen dome]

Huge

[alpine wraith]

wait pog

maybe soon sec tech 4 sht

maybe it was mastery stack all along

the old dino way

potent powder calls

[hazy breach]

Thats what it is

4 sht stacks every sectech (assuming its in dance)

[alpine wraith]

ok then this week we got lingering fix for sec tech

DN working with apex/shadowed

[hazy breach]

Nah not lingering for sectech

[alpine wraith]

just found out coup works with apex too

[hazy breach]

Lingering for other clones

Ye coup has always worked with apex

[alpine wraith]

oh ok lingering on normal clones

and with shadowed too?

i dont even remember if coup had anything broken now

[hazy breach]

The gcd

[alpine wraith]

ah yea that one is a lost war i think

but who knows

[hazy breach]

Nimble flurry has some odd stuff, but thats not coup exclusive

[alpine wraith]

they cooking

maybe they knew in advance like me with my tinfoil hat said

and that is why they did the 8% nerf

[warm marlin]

down with haste up with vers ()

[lilac stag]

[hazy breach]

Also means you kinda always get apex on your second finisher in dance

So maybe we dont need to pool

[alpine wraith]

we might overcap nw

if we pool

ahahaha

[hazy breach]

We are already overcapping a bit during lust

[lilac stag]

pool to get coup on second finisher or not worth?

[alpine wraith]

maybe that one still fine

[hazy breach]

I meant pooling sht

You get 4 from sectech

So you only need 1 more to trigger apex

[alpine wraith]

then on those 3 gcds ytou get like 7 or so

or even mor

[lilac stag]

is this already on beta or?

[alpine wraith]

let me check

[hazy breach]

Yes

[vale pine]

nicu

[hazy breach]

Presumably on live too

But idk

Well we dont have apex on live nvm

[alpine wraith]

hands up the merge working on the 28th

praydge

[hazy breach]

Theres also the issue of clones randomly doing like 2x the damage they should on prepatch

But not on beta

so thats a 50/50

[alpine wraith]

i still dont know why that happens randomly to strike mainly

or well actually only that one for now

[hazy breach]

Maybe its some sub 90 bug, idk

Its not only strike, works on backstab and storm too (with nado)

[alpine wraith]

someone forgot to code the variance well and it is 5 to 100

[final moat]

Holy crap

they removed so many buttons

holllyy

[slate marlin]

rupture, flag and sod no?

[alpine wraith]

yep

they also killed sepsis and er

[slate marlin]

er was killed some time ago

[alpine wraith]

oh and mfd and cb

well if he just came back

who knows when

[slate marlin]

ah

yeah

[hollow spear]

I think they also removed dfa

[quiet smelt]

is crafted belt better the the disc belt now ?

[onyx flame]

Yes

[quiet smelt]

appreciate it!

or maybe set belt ?

[hazy breach]

Literally anything thats not the disc belt

[quiet smelt]

bet they nerfed it hard huh ?

[hollow spear]

Always wear a seat belt

[hazy breach]

Fwiw i checked a random log of a ST boss (in m+) and this bugfix is around 8-10% more combo points

So its not insignificant

[swift tinsel]

very nice

[hollow spear]

Damn

I swear im having a deja vu

[warm marlin]

that high?

i didnt think it would be damn

[warm marlin]

i assume you want all 7 right

to guarantee that it spawns a clone

[hollow spear]

Wrt pooling: if we go into our blades window with just one point of sht, we're basically guaranteed apex?

[hazy breach]

I mean sectech > strike is already 2 globals so youre on average gonna get like 4-5 sht stacks during that

And then you get 4 from sectech

So the premed strike is almost guaranteed to proc apex

And then you have another second as well to proc more before you can actually hit coup so

Might still want to pool sht before, but idk

[hollow spear]

There will probably a cutoff

[hazy breach]

Ye i checked some charrend ST boss stuff

Its generally 5-6 more sht stacks per dance

Since its always 2 per sectech and then another one per clone, both builder clones and finisher clones

[warm marlin]

oh its every clone i kind of thought it was only sectec for some reason

nvm

[hazy breach]

But also more sht stacks > more clones > more sht stacks

It just loops in on itself

[warm marlin]

does it not combo with replicating/wm clone bug that they dont give sht at all?

or is that fixed

[hazy breach]

That is not fixed no

But those clones arent a huge part of the clone damage either way

[warm marlin]

I hope they let us cancelaura combo points in blades so we can proc more generator clones when we have infinite sht anyway

or find a way to bug the aa3 refund so we have to build again

[plush roost]

Hmmm i imagine going to 578 profile is just the play then? Or the dreaded 200 haste...

[hazy breach]

This is from my old log check before they fixed anything

So the weaponmaster thing is 12 sht stacks in like 5 minutes

Which is not nothing, but far less impactful than the 80 from not doubling

[warm marlin]

almost twice as big as blades not working

[swift tinsel]

does snd trigger the apex to spend cp

as a workaround lol

[hazy breach]

Probably 200 or even less ye, but we'll have to see after it gets fixed in simc

[plush roost]

Just to be clear what was fixed was

The builder part

Not giving 2x sht?

[plush roost]

I cant remember what apex2 does ngl

Oh just all clones

[hazy breach]

This was not doubled by

[plush roost]

Wait damn thats kinda turbo

[hazy breach]

Yes around 8-10% more sht stacks overall

5-6 extra sht per dance

[plush roost]

And also a bit more energy so haste is also less important in a way too

Very beeg

Now i get to fiddle with assa and sub today yay!

[runic sinew]

blizz don't anounce this fix?

[swift tinsel]

never announce any

[plush roost]

Bugs dont normally get announced

[hazy breach]

They rarely announce bugfixes

[plush roost]

Hmm

[warm marlin]

you think its big enough to drop premed?

might not need it

[plush roost]

I wonder if were net buffed even after the nerfs with this

Thats a pretty massive fix

[hazy breach]

I dont think so since theres no other dps talent to take instead of premed

[hazy breach]

Not the 8% nerf, but the small aoe nerf is definitely outweighed by this

[warm marlin]

in theory, if you have infinite sht, it's a loss to have premed since you would rather spend those sht on a builder and potentially proc an AA1 clone

[plush roost]

Ye thats what i meant

Tuessays nerf

[warm marlin]

and the premed bug obv

[hazy breach]

Ye i get what you mean, but i dont think we have that much sht stacks, and with blades its not even 100% to spawn the clone

[warm marlin]

okok maybe in lust only

[hazy breach]

Idk ill check

[plush roost]

I think premed smooths your opener a lot as well

[warm marlin]

but then you lose the talent

[plush roost]

Do u really wanna open with strike 3cp evis dance?

[warm marlin]

cmon charrend we're strike evis vanish striking

surely you have the sht by global 3 to build to 7 insta

with lust

[runic sinew]

!bugs

[hazy breach]

At "best" i think its like cancelaura premed if at >10 sht or something

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet

[warm marlin]

you can't cancelaura premed though

[hazy breach]

But i doubt thats more than like 0.3% or something

[warm marlin]

at least not in sims

[plush roost]

If were playing no haste i dont think so tbh

[hazy breach]

Ok ye nvm you cant cancel premed

Unluck

[quiet smelt]

we still rocking trickster or are we DS all the way now ?

[warm marlin]

with lust with lust!

without seems cursed

[hazy breach]

I mean its also possible robot wants more haste to just get clones all the time

[exotic steeple]

i dont understand that cancelaura shit guys can someone elighten me please

[hazy breach]

I dont think so, but i could see it

[hazy breach]

It literally doesnt matter

[exotic steeple]

so im not losing out on dps´?

[hazy breach]

No

[exotic steeple]

cool thx

[warm marlin]

im also certain there's a world where dance -> storm -> blades/sectec is good

there are so many sim iterations it casts sectec as last gcd of a dance and the clones hit in blades but not dance

[sudden quarry]

do we have a current bug list?

[hazy breach]

!bug

[wicked jolt]

Rogue Bug tracker: Spreadsheet

[sudden quarry]

cheers

[warm marlin]

and you aren't fully covering blades with dance anyway

maybe the loss of blades on that first gcd is bad but

(and it was bad every time i tested it) but the logic seems maybe good

[hazy breach]

Ive tried >6|buff.blades.up

But it doesnt seem to matter much

[warm marlin]

i tried something along the lines of max dance duration >= sectec cd | sectec cd >= blades duration remaining and it was bad

to hold dance for sectec coming closer

but still in blades

[hazy breach]

Ye idk why that isnt good

[warm marlin]

a single millisecond delay probably broke its brain 5 mins down the line

hasted cooldowns

[quiet smelt]

how do your guys secondary stats look currently? tryna see how i should do this crafted belt stat wise

[warm marlin]

as far as i could tell this also requires having the stat ingame and hardcoding the max dance duration value (-1.2s for clone delay) since i dont think simc can read that without you casting it

haste makes me want to blow up

[astral axle]

wait im unclear, with the bug on sectech and apex, is it worth it to

#showtooltip /cancelaura Shadow Techniques /cast Shadow Dance /cast Secret Technique

[hazy breach]

You dont have to

Its +-

[astral axle]

it i minimal diff then?

gotcha

[hazy breach]

In big aoe youd rather not cancel

[astral axle]

Thanks eleem!

[hazy breach]

And in most cases premed bug is gonna cancel it for you anyway

[astral axle]

yeah seems a waste

[astral axle]

[tulip light]

are there up to date racial sims anywhere?

[astral axle]

oh wait if we want to benefit from disorienting strikes prepull i guess we also now hafta kinda afk since sstorm will toss unseen blades

(i would hit sectech then just spam sstorm pretending i was useful in trash before boss xdd)

[hazy breach]

Yep

[maiden oar]

i love sandbagging trash

blades still resets on beta right

so u can go insane on one trash pack and hope details doesnt reset while the rest of the trash is pulled

to hide that u are sandbagging

[plush roost]

Yall just didnt do ur rotation and not press sec tec till trash was almost done?

Mash storm powder idgaf

[maiden oar]

i did

but id also cover it up by flagging asap

to hide it

and now itll be more important bc storm will proc ub

[hazy breach]

Best simming is mechagnome

[bleak night]

[warm marlin]

you aren't ready for my new trash rotation

dance -> storm -> sectec -> shiv -> wait -> wait -> wait -> shiv -> repeat x5 -> powder

[maiden oar]

is dwarf close

[hazy breach]

Ye

[maiden oar]

ok dodged

ty

[bleak night]

ok but your clown suit on a mechangnome

would go kinda hard

[maiden oar]

thats true i just dont want to spend gold or money on it

[muted girder]

surprised VE isnt on top of sims

[north schooner]

hello frens. FYI I bothered xeph to make some changes to how WCL breaks down sub's abilities to make them more clear. Specifically: eviscerate and black powder will now show which shadow spell is SF and which one is from Ancient Arts, and for gloomblade and goremaw's bite (lol) which have both the main and the clone ability deal shadow damage, there will be "(shadow clone)" for the fake ones. For the other spells this wasn't needed because there is only 1 physical and 1 shadow version

[hazy breach]

Unfortunately its not possible to destinguish between eviscerate (apex) and coup (apex) as theyre both eviscerate

But anyway good shit

[north schooner]

nor can you distinguish between apex and WM/nado because they use the same spell id

[hazy breach]

Yep

A bit unlucky, but what can you do

[north schooner]

it's a bit strange tbh, I remember 2 shadow spell ids per ability in the files. Initially I expected to have 1 per source

[astral axle]

does the beam on 2nd boss skyreach get reduced by feint or nah

even with elusiveness i felt like i was gett trucked but im unsure if that was healer diff

[hazy breach]

Not sure what spell that is

But it seemed like almost nothing was reduced by feint in that dungeon

[north schooner]

it's not considered aoe, you get just elus' reduction

[astral axle]

i shouldve just logged so i had the answer myself but i keep forgetting to install an autolog on beta

ty ty

[shrewd lantern]

pretty sure mechagnome is a flat value of primary

which typically sims higher first seasons

[swift tinsel]

Wait is the max tier list stream thing today

Sandbag bonanza

[torn ore]

!macro

[wicked jolt]

Subtlety Macros:
Here is a macro to make it easier to fit all of your globals into your Shadow Dances:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Secret Technique

Deathstalker likes to use this macro instead:

/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Shuriken Storm

This can be combines with trinkes and other cooldown use.

/cast Shadow Blades
/use 13
/use 14
/use Tempered Potion
/cast Ancestral Call

Trickster Rogues can combine Coup de Grace and Black Powder in one button:

/cast Coup de Grace
/cast Black Powder

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[lilac stag]

GUYS GUYS GUYS

WERE SO BACK

[slate marlin]

why

[swift tinsel]

The shadowcraft bugfix is pretty poggies

[lilac stag]

positive YouTube vibes. Sub is saved.

[radiant swift]

shadowcraft bugfix?

[maiden oar]

who said tghis

what is a positibve youtube vibe

[stoic spire]

some1 can explain what was bugged and what is the fix? 🤣 😅

[maiden oar]

does petko say hello my name is petko and i am putting subtlety rogue at S (for subtlety) tier

[swift tinsel]

#subtlety message

[maiden oar]

[short radish]

holy shit

is this OUR tier?

[maiden oar]

we just had our tier

2 in a row???

[swift tinsel]

Usually starts out that way

[slate marlin]

cant wait for heroic week tuning

respecting specs knowing its just heroic with no gear

[short radish]

we had half a tier

[short radish]

add on the negative 1 week we had in s2

we had less than half a tier

[maiden oar]

does this guy know anything

[swift tinsel]

Idk who that is lol

Never heard of them

[lilac stag]

Do any of us?

[maiden oar]

idk

[swift tinsel]

Having to be told what is fun is weird idk

[maiden oar]

i think we still went crazy at the end

less crazy than before but we were still really good!

[shrewd lantern]

ngl i just dont enjoy other classes these days

if rogue plays like asscheeks i just unsub

[maiden oar]

hehe

depends on what your threshold is for having your specs tier i guess

[maiden oar]

if someone knows what kinds of things i like and then recommends me a spec that is like that then i think thats fine

like if you say if you find x y and z fun go play subtlety

idk if thats what that guys doing though

[west tide]

guys did i forget how to play or is sub do no dam rn

[tepid trellis]

prepatch is not great dmg wise

[west tide]

ok ok

we levelin as sub ? mhhhm

[trail ledge]

How much is Cap stats for mastery

[tulip light]

leveling is w/e all speccs work

[lilac stag]

I’m just here for the YouTuber memes

[west tide]

bro

[lilac stag]

bruh

[tulip light]

brah

[short radish]

broh

[lilac stag]

mate

[tepid trellis]

bruddah

[sacred yarrow]

bruv

[short radish]

This message was removed as it violates the rules of this Discord.

hmmm.

[swift tinsel]

Blud

[sly shore]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-lookin-good-brev-castillo-castillo-1st-sniper-out-on-all-digital-platforms-big-man-ting-gif-26234544

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-g-day-mate-good-day-mate-gif-5609921

[short radish]

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/olympics-breakdancing-australia-gif-7348849836912101032

[short radish]

oh no

i forgot that she existed

[lilac stag]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdancing-breaking-raygun-olympics-2024-australian-break-dance-gif-8899224022021640048

[swift tinsel]

How dare you forget Raygun

[rustic geyser]

if she wasn't so maniacle about everyone takign the piss out of her afterwards she'd have been an aussie legend - instead she took aim accidentally at womens shelters and shit lol

became a complete joke of a person

[ebon trench]

Will we suck in raid?

[short radish]

yeah

[tepid trellis]

just dont suck at the spec and it wont suck in raid

[swift tinsel]

Clip this chat

Multidimensional Truth Nuke

[alpine wraith]

intructions unclear did 40k less dps than the devourer

[swift tinsel]

Get skill diff’d

Devourer currently killing god

[hazy breach]

🏄 🏄

[swift tinsel]

I take it the stream is going as usual

[hazy breach]

Yes thats why #assassination is on fire

[swift tinsel]

Who’s doing the rogue one, Guy?

[hazy breach]

Shindig did the rogue one already

[exotic steeple]

make it c tier maybe blizzard will buff again

[swift tinsel]

Oh shit just saw whispyrs big post gonna have to step off the line to read lol

[exotic steeple]

where can i read

[swift tinsel]

Dead service thankfully

[swift tinsel]

The assassination channel big dog

[astral axle]

The public library

is also a good place to read

oh you mean something else

[bleak night]

public libraries are scary

[bleak night]

did you know every person who enters a public library dies

[edgy zenith]

I got bad news

[astral axle]

as a libarian i can confirm