assassination

[umbral rapids]

I’m actually in such a dilemma for next week’s vault

[sullen torrent]

kill rares I head it's fun !

[sterile chasm]

When I play with my monk friend on m+ I feel like a complete useless thrash

[balmy condor]

Just lootspec into not outlaw and you’re good to go

[umbral rapids]

Yeah but I want to play outlaw :(

[balmy condor]

No you don’t

No one wants to play 9.2 outlaw

[umbral rapids]

I want to

I won’t tho

(I probably will anyway)

[balmy condor]

Guess that makes you noone

[umbral rapids]

Damn dude

Hurt my feelings will ya

Didn’t even review my logs.

[steel ridge]

i will absolutely play outlaw in raid tomorrow xD

[umbral rapids]

Where’s nice whispyr

Wholesome whspyr

[balmy condor]

I never saw the logs

[umbral rapids]

Help you woth logs whispyr

[balmy condor]

Just because I’m still awake when EU wakes up

Doesn’t mean I see your EU rubbish logs

[bold jetty]

It isnt better to double garrote at start?

[umbral tulip]

75 gold whispyr > log review whispyr

[umbral rapids]

No

[timid cloud]

[umbral rapids]

Not without

[balmy condor]

I’m about to Liam Neeson you mate I answered this 3 times now

[umbral rapids]

Erm what was it called

[timid cloud]

Just reading that Fae rotation made me exhausted.

[umbral tulip]

This double garrote thing is quickly gonna become a meme isn’t it

[umbral rapids]

Shrouded suff ?

[timid cloud]

LOL

I'm living for this.

[umbral rapids]

How does that work ?

[balmy condor]

It was a meme at the start of the expac too

[keen dragon]

Am I correct in thinking heroic sylvanas dagger will be replaced by any mythic dagger / +15 vault dagger

[oak sky]

@balmy condor for raid marileth build we go triple potency sudden fractures wps lethal

?

[balmy condor]

Because no one could figure out that Bfa is not shadowlands

[balmy condor]

Elaborate

[balmy condor]

Uh yeah I guess, heroic raid dagger > mythic sylv in off hand just sim yourself

[oak sky]

or do i need maim in

[balmy condor]

Yes

[timid cloud]

You ever just hit Garrote & it gives you 3 CP? Then you wake up covered in sweat in your bed?

[umbral rapids]

I just don’t understand. If it comes off CD you just hold a few seconds then press it ? I don’t get it.

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Cause vend is 1 min

If you cast on cooldown you’re getting shiv at 50 and missing the vend

[oak sky]

alright i have necro and venth prepped for tomorrow im so ready

[umbral rapids]

Ok

[umbral tulip]

Can’t u just cast on cd twice then wait?

Or

[balmy condor]

#916546791472783371 message

Just read this

[rotund oak]

hmm that means we either sync shiv with VDT and sepsis or holding sepsis to sync it with VDT windows

this is poggers

need to test it

[balmy condor]

The sync with sepsis and vendetta is the same sync you do with flag

That’s normal

The new thing is that you shiv with every cast of them

[umbral tulip]

Seems pretty simple now but took me a few reads to understand

[timid cloud]

So Whispyr...

About this new trinket update...

[round harbor]

[subtle tundra]

yea whispyr whats bis trinket?

i genuinely dont know whats good anymore

[versed mica]

Ah, so I here hitting garrote three times in a row with subterfuge is the way to go

[timid cloud]

[jade minnow]

@balmy condor could you please elaborate on why does the bis list have wrong helm and gloves?

Also why the fuck wowhead releases bis list when there are like 50 percent of wrong info on it

Fuck me really

[bleak sky]

Gotta farm those clicks

[jade minnow]

No seriously its unupdated fake info...

[late birch]

Btw, you guys rate Zold is playable on first boss? The dude comes out of wall at 40% +-

[bleak sky]

No

Ignore zoldycks

[sterile chasm]

What will be the best dagger?

[bleak sky]

The one that sims highest for you

[limber lion]

You might want read the entire post

[sturdy merlin]

I just ran a mythic sepulcher droptimizer, wtf is this lol

[limber lion]

And bis lists are bad anyways and you shouldn't follow them

[proper summit]

wowhead puts them in to cater to bad players for clickbait

[limber lion]

That trinket received a buff some hours ago

Probably a typo in the code

[timid cloud]

GM Cev.

Blizzard intern added too many numbers to the trinket.

Me right now.

[strange python]

I'm fairly new to rogue, with double legendary what would we use in a M+ scenario?

[bleak sky]

Pins

[strange python]

I wouldn't be asking the question if the pins had the answer

[bleak sky]

Pins have sims

And sims have your answer.

[oak sky]

but if you were wondering we're looking at duskwalkers always with either obedience for venthyr or deathspike for necro

but like minalba said make sure to read through carefully the info is almost always there

[strange python]

So Duskwalkers in M+ yes? Thats literally all you had to say 😅

[oak sky]

covenant usually matters

we used to have a pin that said duskwalkers everywhere always

[bleak sky]

This question is just asked 56 times a day

[strange python]

Its the only reason I asked, from what I've seen its majority raid, my bad and apologies if I came across blunt and rude

[bleak sky]

And while yes the answer is dusk + covenant, you could just search it or check pins

[oak sky]

@bleak sky you ready for raid

[bleak sky]

Brother

[oak sky]

How many days are you doing this week

Lol

[bleak sky]

I'm OMEGA ready

5 maybe 6 if I want to raid on an alt on sunday

[oak sky]

Holy

Go brazy

[thin latch]

assas looking juicy

[spice spire]

Bro?

[oak sky]

One day hes gonna have an alt in every NA guild

Just watch

[spice spire]

Man’s gonna be alt raiding in liquid

[thin latch]

lul

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[thin latch]

bro

im literally doin 24k st on a dummie

wtf

[bleak sky]

I don't raid with scrubs, only the giga chads

[thin latch]

bro

fr, on a opener, full st

is going up there

[bleak sky]

Doing 24k != Opening 24k

[oak sky]

I cant wait for raid tonight with shit patch day servers and everything this is gonna bang

[bleak sky]

[oak sky]

And i havent even slept yet

[bleak sky]

Man it's gonna be great

Laggy raid, fucked up bosses

[oak sky]

Last raid i didnt play the whole first week cuz i was gone

[bleak sky]

You did good, first week was super scuffed

[oak sky]

Now i get to juicerize everything

Show off what sin can do

[bleak sky]

It's gonna be great

[hollow river]

I got 2 hours in

[bleak sky]

Today I get sub to 11k sim

And it's gonna be great

[oak sky]

Im gonna get like 7

[hollow river]

Lucky

[bleak sky]

Yeah go to bed you degen

It's almost morning

[oak sky]

I have class at 12:30

Its 4:30

[bleak sky]

Oh you're fucked

[oak sky]

Im good

7 hours for sure

[hollow river]

He has plenty of time lol

[bleak sky]

[hollow river]

I stayed up too late prepping consumables to sell

[oak sky]

Lmao

I crafted obedience prepped gear and marileth then i played a league game

[molten galleon]

Is there a spreadsheet for the new raid which debuffs can be cloaced n shit ? 🙂

[spice spire]

It’s crowdsourced, so it will be !bos

But no raid yet means no info yet!

[viscid spear]

[spice spire]

It’ll be updated fairly regularly for the next few weeks

[viscid spear]

Salute to those Rogues taking the L to discover things

[spice spire]

Oh buddy that’s including you

I’ll int a few pulls to see what works

[lean coral]

Always tell my guild if my cheat isn't on CD I'm waiting my defensive

Wasting

[spice spire]

[lean coral]

Gotta remember to mention that when I die trying to cloak things

And I die through cheat

[spice spire]

“I’m just doing some limit testing”

[upbeat needle]

if your cheat death wasn't proccing every pull on painsmith you weren't playing the game right

🙂

[slim wagon]

cheat death is a great defensive to use on cooldown

[lean coral]

Cheat death is like my, shit I gotta pay attention now thing

[upbeat tinsel]

Today is heroic/normal raid, capped end of run m+ with full ilvl rewards next week, and new chapters of campaign... And that's about it right? No second legendaries or anything until later chapters?

[lean coral]

Sounds about right

High il conduits from mythic plus maybe?

[gusty mirage]

Who knows how they decide to handle it tbh

[lean coral]

Gonna try and get half of ksm done this week

[gusty mirage]

It’d be very unsurprising for them to cap conduit ilvl too

[bleak sky]

No habibi we're getting 265 condies for sure

[gusty mirage]

They might

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

Droptimizer has the Skolex M trinket as a 22% increase in dps

oof

[limber lion]

Probably bugged

[bleak sky]

probably tooltip error, someone added a number too many

[limber lion]

One 0 too mucj

[thorn fjord]

rip

[jade minnow]

@limber lion no i have read the post very carefuly, its just click bait

And confusing to a lot of players

[spice spire]

Keep in mind that best setups vary in reality and depend on your actual character's gear. Raidbots Top Gear and Droptimizer are invaluable tools in refining your gear. Simming yourself is always better than following lists like these, which are only supposed to give some rough guidance. In general, this setup favors Critical Strike and Haste, our two best stats.

Note the that list below doesn't list legendary pieces.

Two very important points

[tough canyon]

Sims for this should be fine it got buffed by more than 100% hotfix 2/28

[spice spire]

22% is egregiously high

I doubt it’s kosher

[elder jasper]

so here is a question I've been thinking about for the last few days and haven't seen anything online about. But before getting our tier set should we play venth and then swap to nf after getting the tier set/double leggo?

or is it more personal preference at that point

[solid venture]

plenty of information regarding that question in the pins 🙂

[tough canyon]

It is but it seems the trinket is not normalized so for rogue speccs + dh its bis by far for other dps its garbage

[spice spire]

Mister link is correct - if you want numerical guidance, whispyr’s spreadsheet in the pins gives you all sorts of numbers

[hollow river]

Incorrect

That trinket is 100% getting nerfed

Atm it’s bis for every melee in the game

[meager basalt]

do you think theyll take the full 4 hours for servers to go up

[hollow river]

Yep

Maybe longer

[visual prairie]

i'll take the under

what's the wager?

[meager basalt]

ima take the under too

200 thistle tea

[visual prairie]

high rollers

[subtle tundra]

holy shit deeper stratagem is so awkward in m+

[meager basalt]

never tried it I just do vigor

[soft merlin]

MoD instead of Vigor in raid now, right?

[meager basalt]

oh fuck yes, really?

[subtle tundra]

marked for death has been the play for many months

[bleak sky]

and it's going away with tier set

[subtle tundra]

well, its deeper strat now instead of the usual vigor

[meager basalt]

so stoked for tier set but how long will it take to get 4/4 do you think xD

[subtle tundra]

depends what you do

[meager basalt]

just normal and heroic

[subtle tundra]

if you get ALL vault options, do normal/hc

youll get it faster

and when mythic is available also do mythic

[meager basalt]

oh yeah i forgot the vault can drop tier

pvp too right?

[subtle tundra]

yea:(((

[meager basalt]

u dont like pvp?

[subtle tundra]

fuckin hate it

[meager basalt]

have u tried rated 2v2 with a disc/holy priest or r.druid ?

[subtle tundra]

i dont like the wow pvp

[meager basalt]

ahhh kk

wait where do you guys see that we use deep strat over vigor in raid now

[bleak sky]

sims

https://bit.ly/3yX1GQc

[meager basalt]

i thought it was 10 m+

[bleak sky]

changed to 8

[meager basalt]

fuck yes

thats so nice

[visual prairie]

1/4/8 i think. raid bosses are 2/5/8 now as well.

so only need 2 mythic bosses to start getting mythic vault items

[meager basalt]

oh wow

[hollow river]

Mfd for Venthyr only

Deeper strat for after tier set with NF

[soft merlin]

thanks, but yes. i ment at start, deeper when we have tier set

but mfd venthyr with no set

[hollow river]

Yeah

[meager basalt]

are we able to buy out 291 ilvl leggo upgrade when servers are up

[nocturne geode]

no

thats story gated

i think another week or so

if i remember right

[meager basalt]

makes sense

[soft merlin]

with current trinkets, what will u guys run from start? phial+counterm? salvaged+?

[hollow river]

Sim yourself

[soft merlin]

i did, counter+salvaged was the best

both on use tho

[hollow river]

Phial nerf hurts pretty bad if you only have a 246

Both on use is fine

[soft merlin]

yee

[hollow river]

If you can manage it

[soft merlin]

ye, counter lines up with vdetta

salvaged outside

[hollow river]

Eye trinket sims higher than phial for my sin profile

[soft merlin]

how much haste u run?

[hollow river]

I didn’t have much because of frost set

[brazen zodiac]

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE

[hollow river]

My profile is using the Nine ring now

[brazen zodiac]

TODAYS THE DAY THE SUN IS SHINNING THE GRASS IS GREEN

[soft merlin]

ye, but without the frost set active?

[hollow river]

Yeah?

[soft merlin]

hahaha GM

[hollow river]

The Nine ring is Haste Mastery

[soft merlin]

ye

true

[brazen zodiac]

Mines got me using the 262 crafted ring and the 252 Archnoid ring

Based

[hollow river]

I have M sylv ring

Doubt I’d replace it

But a crafted ring would replace the nine ring

I’ve got M painsmith ring and 246 arachnid cipher

Just have too much crit lol

[soft merlin]

running the ring from cos ^^

[hollow river]

Remnant necklace

I don’t have TW stuff

I’ll farm it this time tho, when it comes back around in April

[soft merlin]

ye, its actually nice

[hollow river]

Vault has 2 good trinkets and the ring is good I’m sure

Shadow damage trinket from vault looking good in some people’s sims I’ve seen

Shadowgrasp totem sims at like +250 dps for me rn at 272 too

[soft merlin]

tazavesh trinket looks good as well

[meager basalt]

yo how is duskwalker the best leggo in m+ once ur t4

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uxL8VSAYhQooGdmfP2iUS2

[hollow river]

Because it synergies with tier bonus

[meager basalt]

but it's ST, dman thats crazy

[hollow river]

Vendetta CDR is insane

I mean doesn’t matter if it’s ST

You’ll cast twice the amount of Vendettas in every dungeon

That’s big

A good portion of every dungeon is also ST

[meager basalt]

I dont even have dusk crafter yet xD I gotta farm torghast D:

[hollow river]

You don’t need it right now

Need it after 4 set

[meager basalt]

oh tru

[brazen zodiac]

todays the day

[hollow river]

Indeed it is

[brazen zodiac]

grab the bong, update wow

cope about bad frost set loss

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

[meager basalt]

anyone know the reason in all the sims they change the 2nd leggo from belt to bracers?

[bleak sky]

slots make little difference

and it probably sims better on wrists

[meager basalt]

kk nice ty

[fervent rune]

So we still slamming PF for phial after nerf?

[bleak sky]

gotta sim it

[meager basalt]

damn bro watching the raid guides rn - i only pug norm & heroic weekly and I can already tell prototype is gonna be a BITCH

[slow marsh]

For norm and heroic it's fine

You can mostly ignore mechanics and zerg them down

[spice spire]

Gonna Zerg you down I s2g mister iceblades

[slow marsh]

Uwu

[spice spire]

Up until prototype it does seem very uh easy

[slow marsh]

Yeah I'm anxious to see how good or bad my guild actually is for prog

[spice spire]

We’ll personally be slow, but that’s fine tbh

It’s a long tier.

[slow marsh]

Well you're not expecting to do anything crazy the first couple weeks anyways so yeah that's chill

These guys are wanting to push and acting serious so I'm interested to see how they actually perform

[spice spire]

Yeah yeah, honestly if we 2 chest heroic week I’d be ecstatic

Ahhh I see

Good luck mister iceblades

How many hours?

[slow marsh]

This week is normal 9 / 3 but first two mythic is 12 /4

[spice spire]

That’s not too bad for a 3 day

3 hours is pretty par for the course

[thorn fjord]

We're going to be raiding this tier in Oct still

be ready boiz

[spice spire]

October?

Buddy you said October 2023 wrong

[bleak sky]

october is hopefully when my 12th alt is gonna be bis geared raid yknow

raiding for this long

[slender berry]

hopefully i got my 4 set before october

[slow marsh]

Surely they learned from nathria right

[thorn fjord]

😂

[spice spire]

Mans actually gonna be more geared than me on 13 toons

[slow marsh]

At least this .5 patch will have content in that I can play with old guildies on ally

[thorn fjord]

I still believe blizz will hit us with a curve ball and announce one more tier before next expansion

Copium

[slow marsh]

No shot

[spice spire]

No shot

[thorn fjord]

LET ME BELIEVE

[slow marsh]

It was supposed to be jailer

[spice spire]

We’re gonna kill ragnaros 3.0

[slender berry]

zereth mortis guldan spawns as a new endboss

[slow marsh]

Onyxia 3.0

We're gonna have all the dragons come back as world bosses

[thorn fjord]

After we kill Jailer... cut scene goes to Yogg and everything has been a dream

[hollow river]

Artificer is going to be the pug killer lol

[thorn fjord]

and we get another raid

[hollow river]

I think

[thorn fjord]

Halondrus too

[hollow river]

I don’t think so

But we shall see

[strange silo]

is there a way to check what has more value over a 5min raid fight? condensed anima sphere or nimble fingers

[slender berry]

they do 2 different things how would you even compare them

[strange silo]

thats what im asking i thought maybe healing done but thats kinda weird because nimble just decrease energy cost

[slender berry]

if you want my opinion , anima sphere is kinda meh since uncontrolled hps doesnt really help, and nimble fingers can save your life if you mess up and dont have enough energy for feint when you would need it

but its personal preference in the end

also technically nimble fingers is a dps gain if you use feint / crimson vial

[dawn ivy]

nimble fingers makes your vial a free use and feint basically nothing, think of it like a dps increase

[strange silo]

true that

[junior rampart]

They could have made Anduin as end boss for 9.2. In 9.3 Jailer could have resurrected all previous expansion final bosses to make a new raid. "Last arc"

[hollow river]

Anima sphere is pretty garbage

[slender berry]

chances are the healing you get from that never saves your life just takes away from the healers already massive aoe healing

[dawn ivy]

i would genuinely fuck with a boss that basically spawns first/second tier bosses as adds during a phase of a fight

imagine fighting terragrue/hungering devourer at the same time

[thorn fjord]

i wanna fight legion bosses again

[slow marsh]

allow me to introduce you to jailer's gauntlet

[alpine radish]

*nightmare

[slow marsh]

I want jailer to win tbh

Tired of the traditional heroes always save the day and on to the next big bad

[timid cloud]

Sorry, I only trust the Rank 2 healing Rogue in the world.

[spice spire]

He’s asleep

Can I take a message

[timid cloud]

🔈

Do I heal snipe with CV?

[bleak sky]

<CV> ?

[spice spire]

Crimson goal

[bleak sky]

oh

[spice spire]

Vial even

[bleak sky]

thought it was the guild for some reason

[spice spire]

That’s my only response mr. ninjbreadman

[spice spire]

Nah man’s gone mad

He’s leeching + MP

Truly mad

[bleak sky]

zoldycks for the extra heal on execute

[alpine latch]

I just nuked all of my extra leggos

My heart is ready for r7s

[timid cloud]

What is the matter with you?

Keep them all.

Including Bloodfang.

[balmy condor]

?

[timid cloud]

[slow marsh]

I might craft a zold just in case tbh

[timid cloud]

A…b-b-BIS list….

[obtuse robin]

i cant wait to get that trinket and abuse it for a couple hours

[slow marsh]

I just looked at the bis list

[obtuse robin]

[slow marsh]

very well done

because there's 3 lists

[gusty mirage]

I’m waiting to see what wrong info is on there

[bleak sky]

can you tell me opener with Mawrat Harness + Kyrian leggo thanks

[gusty mirage]

It’s going to be nice

[timid cloud]

It’s bad.

[slow marsh]

surely someone will come in here and ask if wowhead guide is correct

and @ whispyr

[gusty mirage]

Woke up a little feisty today, it’ll a good way to make lunchtime more enjoyable

[balmy condor]

If he’s gonna cold ping me at 3:30 in the morning and flame me about what I wrote is wrong it better be good

[gusty mirage]

You’re WRONG because you out the tier gloves over the 285 gloves on the wowhead list

Presumably that’s what he’s bitching about

He’s been fuming about it for a few days now:

#assassination message

[bleak sky]

crit haste

https://tenor.com/view/jhnnycrwsh-forsen-nymn-batchest-twitch-gif-24086134

[alpine latch]

I don't forsee myself needing 3 Obe's anymore, nor do I need r6 Celerity

[gusty mirage]

Which makes me laugh a little more, because if he can take the time to come up with these complaints why is he even looking at a bis list?

Seems like that suggested list ain’t for him 🤷🏻‍♂️

[alpine latch]

Our profile isn't even a "BiS" profile

[slow marsh]

Some people just don't have the brain capacity

[bleak sky]

yeah the list has sockets, it can't be bis because it's unachievable

[slow marsh]

and that's why they play warrior

[bleak sky]

[alpine latch]

lol

[gusty mirage]

But he’s demonstrated that he does have the brain capacity

And he’s using to whine instead of figuring it out for himself

[alpine latch]

Our Unity (in a true BiS scenario) wouldn't go on bracers it would go on Helm based on what I asked a week or so ago in the 9.2 thread.

[slow marsh]

ye

[alpine latch]

But you don't lock out a tier piece during prog

[bleak sky]

yeah

[alpine latch]

So bracer is safe

I hate people

[gusty mirage]

Yes when you have all 5 tier pieces you’re better off crafting it on helm

[bleak sky]

we gonna be recrafting a lot of stuff later on in the patch

[spice spire]

@ me

[alpine latch]

@spice spire

[gusty mirage]

It’s exactly like that scenario Mr Palmer

[spice spire]

[slow marsh]

@spice spire is an exception he's being forced to play warrior

[alpine latch]

You told us to

[spice spire]

No, it’s fitting dw

And as of now I’m safe

[alpine latch]

I just brought over my warrior to the Horde side last night, ironically enough.

[bleak sky]

@spice spire warrior extraordinaire, fury machine, arms beast speed demon rank 1 surpassing critcake and all the other bad warriors

[gusty mirage]

I wonder if his warrior could out dps his rogue in that sanguine

[spice spire]

Multi-slow spec freakazoid

[spice spire]

AYO?

Actually probably

[bleak sky]

playing sin in low keys

actual griefer

[spice spire]

Yessir

Couldn’t tarnish my IO with another spec

[gusty mirage]

Letting me heal: actual grief

[spice spire]

Sorry king

[spice spire]

Let me mage

[bleak sky]

survival hunter about to throw 1 bomb and delete the pack

[spice spire]

I’ll show you grief

[bleak sky]

good luck setting bleeds up

[gusty mirage]

Just envenom for 5k

HUGE dam

[bleak sky]

[slow marsh]

Did someone say surv hunter?

[spice spire]

Bro I told you

[slow marsh]

Allow me to introduce you to icebladesxyz

[gusty mirage]

You’re not even trying with the names now

[spice spire]

It was triple garrote, CT, die inside

[bleak sky]

Icebladesxyz 🤝 Minalbatrap

[gusty mirage]

Should’ve played MA instead of subterfuge

[slow marsh]

why would i

[spice spire]

Yeah I should have

[gusty mirage]

You were in a 15 with a survival hunter and a monk

Those bleeds didn’t have a chance

[spice spire]

FOK > CT big dam

[slow marsh]

Look at this absolute monster

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/icebladesxyz#

[gusty mirage]

I can smell him through my phone screen

Stinky

[spice spire]

You’re my little juicer

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

Blue parsing at 4k dps

[gusty mirage]

What a time to be alive

[bleak sky]

blue?

[slow marsh]

In normal yessir

xD

[spice spire]

4.4 is a green overall

[alpine latch]

He loggedLFR

😂

[slow marsh]

bro easiest parses ever

[alpine latch]

haha

[bleak sky]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/minalbatrap

look at us go

[slow marsh]

if you are ever feeling down about your rogues just make a surv hunter

[bleak sky]

juicers ready

[alpine latch]

Why would I ever make a survival hunter?

[gusty mirage]

I have a friend who logged lfr nzoth

[alpine latch]

that just sounds awful

[slow marsh]

I assume that people just keep logs on or something idk

[gusty mirage]

God you guys suck

[bleak sky]

listen here

[gusty mirage]

Stick to the yellow boys

Sheesh

[alpine latch]

I log everything, including 10 or higher keys

[gusty mirage]

Dw my monk’s parses are hot ass garbage too

[bleak sky]

thank god I abandoned my monk

[spice spire]

Wait until you see my warrior parses

[bleak sky]

stupid class

brewmaster feels bad, wind wanker feels bad

[gusty mirage]

@bleak sky
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/zuljin/oxibrew

[bleak sky]

7k on soulrender

[gusty mirage]

Not bad for having 2 dom sockets

[bleak sky]

got 1 proc

[spice spire]

Brewmaster feels bad rn

But tier set actually a juicer

[slow marsh]

Dang must've been nice to raid on an alt that's 240+

[gusty mirage]

It wasn’t

[slow marsh]

Better than 221

[gusty mirage]

No the actual act of raiding on an alt wasn’t

Ilvl was irrelevant

[slow marsh]

O

[balmy condor]

What a weird hyperfixation

[bleak sky]

absolute trap run

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

surely the feral was the saddest of the bunch

[bleak sky]

damn the affixes are rough

[gusty mirage]

Yeah, it’s definitely weird to be this upset about it for 3 days and then ping you about it

[bleak sky]

tyrannical bolstering explosive

kind of a SHEEESH week

[spice spire]

Truer words homie

[gusty mirage]

Like three days after the fuming started

[slow marsh]

if only bolstering was literally anything else

[bleak sky]

hey at least it isn't fortified bolstering

[marble hemlock]

if only wow was lost ark

[gusty mirage]

Kek

[marble hemlock]

then id be looking forward to it

[gusty mirage]

Don’t you have the RWF to prep for?

Mr caster

[marble hemlock]

im not casting

im only writing

[slow marsh]

He can't cast when there's LA to play

[gusty mirage]

Wtf

[marble hemlock]

im too monotone and slowspeaking

obv

[gusty mirage]

I’m being deprived of your sweet sexy voice?

[marble hemlock]

ill stream prog

[gusty mirage]

[marble hemlock]

soo

you can listen to me yell at my raiders for 4hrs

[slow marsh]

bet

[indigo ginkgo]

did you seee the blood malet trinket list ? is that a bug ?

[bleak sky]

probably a bug yes

[slow marsh]

are you a bug

Bells is obviously overtuned

[bleak sky]

Coitos means "multiple acts of fornicating" over here

[slow marsh]

they buffed the damage by over 200% but didn't adjust the proc rate so I expect it to be swiftly nerfed

[timid cloud]

“+1 CP”

[indigo ginkgo]

hehehehe

[slow marsh]

Unless it's coded incorrectly annd it's actually fine

It's weirder to me that phial is so low on bloodmallet list

when it's still probably bis

[timid cloud]

Seli you going SBS today?

🦴

[alpine latch]

Nothing changes for us today, right?

We're still Venth with Obe/Dashing?

And then 4pc changes us, and then dbl leggo changes us more

right?

[slow marsh]

Venth obed or necro doom / zold

[alpine latch]

(re-reads the pins for the 4th time)

[slow marsh]

if you want to pad on the aoe fights

[indigo ginkgo]

well i was but with no set and just changeing kyrian gain 800 dps

[alpine latch]

You do more damage as Kyrian right now than you do as Venth?

[slow marsh]

no

that's probs just a profile thing

[timid cloud]

Mental Illness…

It’s been awhile since I ran Obe on Sin.

[slow marsh]

It's fun

[timid cloud]

Gonna feel weird, haven’t really raided in a few weeks either.

[slow marsh]

and plays nice with CT

[alpine radish]

Is it ?😂

[slow marsh]

Obe is yes

[alpine radish]

Cant wait to not be venth ngl

[slow marsh]

Then just play necro

Until skolex and halondrus

[alpine radish]

Ill be sticking with venth until 4pc im patient enough for that

Probs switch to sub at that point - early days

[alpine latch]

I doubt I'm swapping to Sub

If it's just far and away better I will

But if it's close, I'd rather be Sin

Even for keys

I really enjoy the Sin playstyle

[slow marsh]

I'm playing sub until 2p

[modern holly]

I feel you bro, switching to sub doesnt sound good

[alpine radish]

Wouldnt be surprised if i get a few 'why arent you sub'

In keys

[alpine latch]

I already got those last tier, and my response was always, "Because I'm beating you in damage either way"

[alpine radish]

Same ppl that expect us to do aoe instead of ST

If you wanted aoe you got the wrong dude

[alpine latch]

It's always the people that die to thrust that complain about rogues being the wrong spec, lol

[alpine radish]

Amongst other things

[alpine latch]

Cool, so chill Venth until 4pc

By then we'll probably have double leggo

and I can swap toNF

[timid cloud]

You’ll get 4P before Double Leggo

More than likely.

Double leggo is week…7…? IIRC

Clearing N won’t be hard once everyone hits either a wall in Heroic or full clears this week.

[edgy notch]

Am i reading whispyrs spreadsheet right? We go obedience with no tier and single lego?

[obtuse robin]

dl should be week 5

[timid cloud]

We just don’t get uhhh Shoulders / Chest

[gusty mirage]

week 5

[timid cloud]

Oh okay.

[balmy condor]

Yes

But honestly playing sin week 1 is kinda whack

Best case it’s like -700 worst case it’s -1300

[obtuse robin]

[timid cloud]

[edgy notch]

y i will play sub for sure. was just checking

[balmy condor]

My sin profile is 1150 down on sub it’s insane

[timid cloud]

At least it’s not… 🍞

[silk thunder]

Not for me as I suck at sub 🙂

[obtuse robin]

i dont have sub gear so yea

[silk thunder]

So sin will shine for me

[visual prairie]

is sub gear drastically different than sin gear?

[timid cloud]

For your Kyrian profile I’m assuming?

[balmy condor]

Even with people that don’t have sub gear it’s not even close

[timid cloud]

Or Venthyr?

[visual prairie]

or no lego

[balmy condor]

Yeh kyrian

[obtuse robin]

i mean i dont even have syl daggers

[timid cloud]

Oh shit, I didn’t make a 262 ER belt…

[visual prairie]

well, you have obedience i imagine. anway. if sub is 15% higher, that means they're probably even for me since I have almost no experience with sub

[timid cloud]

[obtuse robin]

i played sub for a little bit in bfa

not much exp

[balmy condor]

Still stronger

[obtuse robin]

damn

[brazen zodiac]

sup black, whisp

[obtuse robin]

yo

[visual prairie]

well, i can int harder than playing sin. i'm playing feral.

[timid cloud]

[obtuse robin]

i can int harder and play aff lock

[timid cloud]

I can int harder & play… Looks at hand P…Prot Warrior…?

[obtuse robin]

xd

[marble hemlock]

dont listen to him, assa is the best spec ever

[subtle tundra]

very true.

based opinion

[timid cloud]

[modern cargo]

So, are we going double sylvanas dagger or just one in offhand

[bleak sky]

pinned

sims also in pins

and comparison

[brazen zodiac]

sup minal!

[bleak sky]

waddup vita

[plush garnet]

Might be dumb question, but do tier pieces swap effects based on spec?

like you don't need to farm a set for each spec right >.>

[bleak sky]

yes

they swap

[plush garnet]

Cool cool

[strange python]

Whispyr did you sleep

[timid cloud]

I don’t think that would’ve made it off of PTR.

[strange python]

Ur gonna need your rest for the trinket questions

[thorn fjord]

about 500 worse for me luckily so i'll just play sin this week and swap to sub next

[balmy condor]

500 aint bad

[timid cloud]

Mine is 800 worse…but…

[balmy condor]

Ye

[strange python]

Good

[viscid spear]

You can sleep for 8 hours or 8 minutes, still counts as 'sleep'.

[strange python]

Guild wants me to play sin and do mechanics for downtime reasons

[timid cloud]

I slept for like…4…

I’m going to pass away.

[brazen zodiac]

i didnt sleep

.<

[bleak sky]

sin doesn't have downtime issues

[timid cloud]

Anyone else doing HOA 20 at 6am because they forgot?

[brazen zodiac]

XD

[thorn fjord]

Delayed one more hour

[strange python]

Tettles said so

[viscid spear]

I think I got Covid again

[bleak sky]

oh it must be right then

[timid cloud]

Stop…

[viscid spear]

Or the flu, hard to tell

[rugged blaze]

I'm only 242 ilvl on rogue but sim diff is still 500, maybe sub stonks Inc then but I love sin!

[bleak sky]

tettles is a BASTION of knowledge

[timid cloud]

Yeah…

[indigo ginkgo]

servers live ?

[strange python]

And a racist

[timid cloud]

Just like Ion is a master of Shaman…

[brazen zodiac]

they pushed itback an hour

based

[indigo ginkgo]

ok

[thorn fjord]

Servers up boiz

[spice spire]

GO TIME

[timid cloud]

Another hour.

[thorn fjord]

Its up

[timid cloud]

[thorn fjord]

literally logged in

Whats the haste tea string again?

[spice spire]

Shadowlands.party_favor_type= (insert stat there)

[thorn fjord]

ty

[balmy condor]

shadowlands.makeitquake_hoes=not_found

No maidens

[spice spire]

Can’t hear you from engagement homie

[balmy condor]

You still haven’t seen her ankles L

[spice spire]

I’m a man of god ofc I haven’t

Imagine holding hands before marriage L

[timid cloud]

???

Imagine making eye-contact before marriage.

[solid venture]

y'all ever talked to a woman before marriage? seems kinda wack

[timid cloud]

Strange, I've never even perceived another person before...kinda slutty if you ask me...

[drifting cloud]

youre trying to hard

[hollow river]

Are you online

[spice spire]

I am not

I’m at work

[hollow river]

Same

[spice spire]

Was hoping for a long maintenance

[soft merlin]

still nadija now at start or theotar?

[spice spire]

It’s a simmer

[indigo ginkgo]

miko

[spice spire]

Probably theo all the same

[spice spire]

Wrong spec homie

[timid cloud]

GASLIT INTO KYRIAN SIN???

[hollow river]

Any NA raid journal enjoyers wanna check skolex trinket tool tip?

[indigo ginkgo]

wrong chat

[timid cloud]

I can I guess.

https://i.gyazo.com/220b63187eb02f98f5d0e9a90a68533e.png

I forgot to ask which level you wanted.

https://i.gyazo.com/6a22d6400e8a6e4cfcad6f2b7713d9dd.png

[viscid spear]

"Tank, kite the boss"

[hollow river]

No worries. Thanks

[thorn fjord]

I want that

It'll drop for me tonight.. I BELIEVE

[sick aspen]

in the short term before we get raid gear, do we know which of the enhancements on crafted gear is best?

[spice spire]

Whichever sims best tbh

[carmine dawn]

yeah but which one is best'

[hollow escarp]

I think only one of them gives damage

[sick aspen]

not sure how to even add it to sims, isn't an option in gear compare. prob need to add it via custom?

[hollow escarp]

idk if it's supported yet

it was not last night

either way, you can get that effect on any piece of gear except weapon

so if you have a low ilvl slot or bad stats, you can use that instead and it will be an upgrade either way

[sick aspen]

looks like 3 give something that would affect damage, either explosion, primary stats or secondary stat

[hollow escarp]

314 damage

1-2 times a minute

[sick aspen]

hah ok

[hollow escarp]

that's on the 233 piece, probably more on 262

[alpine latch]

I really need someone in MDI to run a Sin rogue

Even if they lose

So people shut up about not being Sub

[nocturne geode]

LOL they biffed every boss in the raid already

buffed*

[alpine latch]

did they? lol

[nocturne geode]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-9-2-sepulcher-of-the-first-ones-tuning-hotfixes-326150?webhook

may not be looking at all of it right as i skimmed through but looks like mostly buff to the bosses across the board

[hidden bloom]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[somber hill]

did we get an answer about that crafted ring?

[empty hinge]

is there a way to sim all new crafted items to see which is the biggest upgrade

[bleak sky]

gear compare

[lost ibex]

is bells of the endless feast sim bait?

[drifting cloud]

skolex trinket very balanced

[woven ruin]

1st 4 bosses all PB or go CT on first boss?

[red plaza]

no...but I can't imagine it lasting long XD

[arctic venture]

Guys hello, Worth leave the items with shards now?

for the new raid?

[red plaza]

[gloomy epoch]

the shards only work in sanctum/maw/korthia

[hollow escarp]

and torghast

[strange python]

First bosses go sub

Sins gonna be troll until 4set

[hollow escarp]

I'm blood elf

[oak sky]

Why are you telling people to go sub in this chat when they ask about talents

You can play whatever you want especially in heroic

[strange python]

Cause sin is a troll for any raid for the first few weeks

[oak sky]

Its really not

[hollow escarp]

[oak sky]

Like they arent asking what spec to go

[red plaza]

Troll is a little much XD

[strange python]

Idk, if you're asking about talents to do damage then you should also be prepared to swap specs as a triple DPS spec. Sin is significantly worse than sub until 4set

[oak sky]

Thats just not true

[strange python]

If you're fine playing sin over sub before 4set then you should be fine playing exsang master poisoner lol

[oak sky]

That makes no sense dude

[hollow escarp]

yeah, it has to be extremes

[brazen zodiac]

what

[oak sky]

Some people just like a certain spec

And want to play it well

[hollow escarp]

necrolord first boss

[woven ruin]

Good talk, thx bud

[solid venture]

this guy still playing dashing scoundrel

[nocturne geode]

yea like who is this person

[solid venture]

was just checking if there were any rogue logs yet and saw this abomination

[limber lion]

Let them play what they want you bullies

[spice spire]

Just play x class, it does more damage?

[limber lion]

:(

[nocturne geode]

wym that perosn was the bully

person

[spice spire]

If people ask which spec, yeah that’s a fine response. But let people play what they want it’s fine

Fellas log watching in full force rn

[nocturne geode]

[oak sky]

Log watchers

[spice spire]

What are you saying agreonr-Tichondrius?

[oak sky]

Externals on day one though you cant write this shit

[spice spire]

I mean bear tank and a PI here and there

[limber lion]

I'm gonna pop off on normal tomorrow

[spice spire]

It’s 3, not 40

[limber lion]

3 tier pieces, ez

[spice spire]

Yessir

[oak sky]

Im gonna pop off on whatever we do tonight

[spice spire]

You’re gonna be 4p week one, pal

[oak sky]

Log watch me for sure

[spice spire]

Gonna get the fourth piece from the key piece in vault

Always do @oak sky

[limber lion]

Ya fosho

[oak sky]

Think I'm close to bis for the week

[spice spire]

But then you’re never looting a 285 dagger, Cev.

Sorry king

[oak sky]

No sylv belt unless it shows up in vault

[spice spire]

It’s just the script

[echo geyser]

any log watchin happening? @spice spire

[spice spire]

Nah we’re chilling rn mister ramfam

Soon tho

[oak sky]

Im literally so screwed if i get 4p before 291 leggos show up tho

[spice spire]

I have enough to do wow related that isn’t log watching.

[oak sky]

I dont have gold for 262 dusk then 291 dusk

[nocturne geode]

@oak sky if you ask nicely in the professions discord you can usually find someone to craft it for matts and a small tip

[oak sky]

Ill look into it

Thanks

[nocturne geode]

np

[cold rampart]

we still crit and haste ?

[jade minnow]

@gusty mirage u tryna be funny i see

[hollow river]

Haste and crit

But you should always sim yourself

Higher ilvl will likely be best

[restive falcon]

i already got 255 crit/haste ring from ToP with a socket lets fucking go

[hollow river]

There’s nothing wrong with a lil mastery or vers

[hollow river]

Useless item bozo lol +1

Nah jk Gratz

[west juniper]

As a returning player on a fresh-ish 60 should I not craft obedience and wait for Unity?

[hollow river]

Depends on your goals for right now I guess

If you want to raid right now, you might need to craft at the very least a 235 Obedience

Unity is still a couple weeks away

[restive falcon]

are we going a bit more into mastery, looking at the sim for the tier atleast for when we r nf it has a bit of mastery gear

[hollow river]

Any 255 gear we get this week is kinda wasted as it’ll take months to get enough valor to upgrade it

[hollow river]

Like I said a minute ago

Nothing wrong with a little mastery or vers

Highest ilvl typically best

[brazen zodiac]

nah fuck mastery

stinky

sup trick

[hollow river]

You makin me sad

Wassup

[cold rampart]

we raiding with obbediance?

[hollow river]

Until 4p yeah

[west juniper]

That makes sense, I wasn't sure if it was close enough to future proof with making duskwalker or dashing now or to just go with obedience. Is it worth considering zoldyck for mythic plus gear farming? Also thanks for the answer!

[restive falcon]

only make vendetta when you get 4piece tier and night fae

[hollow river]

Ehh idk tbh. I’d play sub with Obe in m+

And obe sin raid if that’s what you wanna do

Or just do m+ with Obe as sin

That’s not bad either.

[oak sky]

Yeah no need to make zoldyck rn

[hollow river]

Quite decent

I forgor

[subtle tundra]

BRRRR i cant wait to get 4p + duble leggo

for m+ 😉

[alpine latch]

I just nuked my r6 Dashing

Feelsgoodman

[limber lion]

Should we tell him?

[spice spire]

[alpine latch]

Nothing to tell me

[solid venture]

do it

[alpine latch]

We run Obe until double leggo and then we run Doomblade for all content

[brazen zodiac]

sup quake, cev

[alpine latch]

I've cried enough today

Don't do this to me

[oak sky]

You mean dusk for all content

[limber lion]

Doomblade

[oak sky]

And thats 40

[limber lion]

[oak sky]

4p

[alpine latch]

Dusk, yes

Not Doomblade

That's my fault

lol

[solid venture]

i for one, welcome our necro overlords

[glass tulip]

so uh

[vestal wren]

bells has a to high rppm

[solid venture]

today on "trinkets that won't make it to mythic week in its current state"

[vestal wren]

so ye, its busted

[limber lion]

Don't worry, it'll get fixed

Just like the crafted gear

[vestal wren]

they hotfixed it, and the rppm is ~50 and hasted

[oak sky]

Iqd is banned

[vestal wren]

probably a typo, should possibly be 5

[limber lion]

Just a typo in the code

Ye

[hollow escarp]

why fix something that was intended?

[alpine latch]

rrpm = ?

[bleak sky]

real procs per minute

[limber lion]

95% sure it's not intended

Every other effect is something like "when you slay an enemy"

so pretty much useless in raid

No shot one effect out of like 8 effects

actually works

[glass tulip]

but for the others are we thinking that looks accurate for now?

[limber lion]

Man's just trying to puff on hopium so you can make bank from merching them

[hollow escarp]

idk, been talking for weeks that raiders will want those items

[limber lion]

I see you KoJack

[hollow escarp]

only reason to rush honored this week

I could be in T3 in LARK

[open arrow]

is there any stat weight available? like how much crit and so we should go for?

[arctic venture]

addons to show enchants? in character?

[open arrow]

dont know if I should upgrade my obedience with haste crit to 262 or recraft with crit vers

[arctic venture]

somebodie knows?

[hollow escarp]

I think elvui and DejaCharacterStats do that

[worn badger]

Sorry if this gets asked alot but are there any resources for an old rogue that can show me what the ideal openers would be for raiding with venth/obedience ?

[hollow escarp]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[worn badger]

thanks

[arctic venture]

Tks

[gusty mirage]

thanks, I find myself quite humorous

u tryna be muted i see

by pinging people

[brazen zodiac]

hey oxi!

:D

[bleak sky]

mod abuse

[gusty mirage]

is it?

[alpine latch]

Hey, Oxi said I was cool and his friend. Leave him alone...

Stop being jealous because you suck. My guy has enough problems to worry about other than your jealousy

Yeah, I'm tired. That was a lot funnier in my head

I'll see myself out

[frigid kestrel]

Hmmm

What’s going on here?

[thorn fjord]

Everyone is at work counting down the minutes to go home

😂

[alpine latch]

facts

[tardy sluice]

2220021 is only with 4 set?

[vernal egret]

yo, i just crafted duskwalker's loop as my first lego, did i make a mistake?

[hollow escarp]

4 set night fae double leggo

[zinc frost]

It’s going to be in your bank for a fair while

[ripe gulch]

how does assa feel in raid

if anyone is NA and tested it

[sick aspen]

what about the crafted gear?

[limber lion]

Seems a bit busted kinda

[hollow escarp]

btw Cev, not sure if you discussed here

but apparently crafting that effect on normal blue gear makes the effect stack

so you could have a full set of 233

[limber lion]

wtf

[hollow escarp]

probably not worth though

as you lose a lot of baseline mainstat

[limber lion]

maybe worth on stuff like wrists

idk