assassination

[wide hawk]

that was fun

[hollow river]

yeah

[brazen zodiac]

xd

[hollow river]

we killed it heroic week like that

that was ass

[brazen zodiac]

that was based idk what u mean

stop dps

[hollow river]

but even before any nerfs, there were 0 dps checks

not even on the fight that was meant to be the patchwerk fight

it was all stop dps

[brazen zodiac]

I DONT WANT TO STOP DAMAGE I WANT TO DOO DAMAGE

good video

[hollow river]

the only "dps check" i saw this entire tier was M sylvanas mythic week 1

[exotic gyro]

Like I said if you got to the bosses week 2 or 3 it was very different than when you got there with full Dom sets raid wide

[hollow river]

no one cares about killing 10/10 week 1 my friend

like 3 guilds do that

[brazen zodiac]

meh it didn't really feel different

[exotic gyro]

My whole argument is the Dom sets nerfed the raid too hard

[hollow river]

nah because you have player imposed fall off in comparison to the top 5 guilds

[exotic gyro]

Do you understand friend

[hollow river]

yes

and that's a horrific oversight on the devs behalf

[exotic gyro]

I killed it week 4 it was 10x harder than it is now

[hollow river]

but those gems are part of the raid

i mean this may be too based

but who asked

[brazen zodiac]

lmfaoo

idk the mechanics and aspect of the boss itself doesn't exactly change

i guess the boss mechanics were just boring is all

[hollow river]

idk dodging Rive 9 times

had my heart pumping every pull

💤

[brazen zodiac]

haha

i thought that was okay ig idk

it was kinda rad i guess moving a d here and there

[hollow river]

keeping 5 stacks of alacrity up during the intermissions

was like the only thing keeping me sane there at the end

at least the new raid doesn't look like it's going to have a bunch of down time

[brazen zodiac]

yeah the downtime was boring

[limber lion]

And still people keep dying to it every other pull

Guess by nature it's a very simple mechanic, so you don't pay much attention to it and just end up dying because of it

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

xd

hi cev hope ur day goes swell

[strange python]

New raid genuinely looks unfun. Maybe just me though

Wall boss, artificer, pantheon, snake all feel bad to play.

[hollow river]

snake felt fine imo

[static pier]

is 32% crit particularly low or something? Unholy set is currently simming ~50dps ahead of frost for me

[hollow river]

kinda low but just keep simming as you get more gear

you simming Dashing?

[static pier]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jProvGWG5Y1qesETAxah3n

I'm hella behind on embers if that makes a difference

[spice spire]

It does

R4 is when frost starts taking over, if that’s what you mean

Usually

[strange python]

On mythic?

[hollow river]

i didn't test mythic nah

[hollow river]

gm

did you do your homework

[strange python]

Swirlies basically spam on mythic and land in a second, tiny window and nonstop

Just feels unfun

[spice spire]

I did not 🙂

[gusty mirage]

It’s ok you can copy off me in home room

[hollow river]

i'm doing it rn

NF campaign

[spice spire]

Thanks homie

Oh I did campaign already

[hollow river]

then you did do your homework

[gusty mirage]

Lmaooooo the nf campaign

[hollow river]

yes

[gusty mirage]

So glad I don’t have to do that again

[hollow river]

i never did it on any toon

[gusty mirage]

Well next time, just be sick in the head like me and have a bunch of alts at the beginning of 9:0

[spice spire]

^

Or run sin in 9.0

Which was even more sick in the head

[static pier]

Set bonus scales off your lowest level gem right? I wasn't really expecting to get multiple sockets before 9.2 so I dumped my embers into maxing Dyz for m+ and then a few levels in Cor, could that be why unholy is winning out?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it’s based on lowest shard rank

So like if you have 2 at R4 and 1 at r2 the bonus is r2

[limber lion]

You too, Vita!

[gusty mirage]

Dark times. I played a pirate for most of 9.0

[tight ginkgo]

[brazen zodiac]

what ultimately u got levek

alts**

[static pier]

i played ||havoc|| during 9.0

[gusty mirage]

[static pier]

||for a single normal clear||

[gusty mirage]

You poor thing

[static pier]

i actually just wasn't playing the game lmao, came back a few weeks ago by leveling a rogue

[gusty mirage]

iirc havoc wasn’t very good early in 9.0 either

[static pier]

sounds about right

my 215 ilvl chad, with a rank 3 collective anguish

pooompin

[gusty mirage]

Our dh rerolled boomkin in 9.0

And 2 of the other rogues rerolled, I was the last one standing

[normal mist]

Funny how i played sin the whole exp and started as venthyr for months :pepeclown-1:

[oak sky]

You arent alone

[spice spire]

You and me both

[oak sky]

I think me and oxi did too

[spice spire]

Pretty sure oxi did too

[static pier]

oh yeah it's also kyrian, i don't know if that's good or bad

[spice spire]

And agreon?

[oak sky]

I was just a humble aotc ksm pugger then

[gusty mirage]

Tbh I think havoc was in the same spot as rogue early on where it didn’t really matter

[oak sky]

Didnt know what a ravenholdt was

[spice spire]

Sbs got fucking gutted so it was just

[oak sky]

[gusty mirage]

Ye I was venthyr from the get go

[spice spire]

And ended up being sepsis was best because it was the least shit

[gusty mirage]

Cuz I hated fae

[spice spire]

OG venthyr ability

[oak sky]

So bad

[spice spire]

Goated

[gusty mirage]

And liked the vampire boys aesthetic

[oak sky]

Old flag lol

[oak sky]

We love our narrative choices

[gusty mirage]

I’d forget to press it a 2nd time half the time

[oak sky]

You and me and everyone else

[spice spire]

I won’t say mog didn’t help shape my opinion

It was like within margin to just not hit it iirc

[gusty mirage]

Bro I think at one point I just removed flag from my bars

[oak sky]

It gave half the haste it does now, had the reactivate, and lashing scars sucked

[static pier]

This is the real reason i'm not doing the nf campaign

[normal mist]

Same...

[gusty mirage]

I remember pvping for gear and my buddy goes “are you kyrian or fae?” And I told him venthyr and he goes “oh…. yikes”

[oak sky]

Just ahead of the curve

Ok i need to sleep

[normal mist]

S1 where kyrian rogues were oneshotting everyone........

[static pier]

I thought pvp was automatically necro for the defensive

[gusty mirage]

We’re visionaries

[gusty mirage]

Yeah except my stupid ass went kyrian AFTER they nerfed it

[oak sky]

5 am - 1pm sleep schedule I'm thriving

[hollow river]

not last season

[gusty mirage]

[normal mist]

I never went kyrian :pepeclown-1:

Why isnt my pepe working dammit

[tight ginkgo]

9.2 NF shiv logic looks interesting -- for 9.2 will NF sin also spec into MA and try to vanish for the boop?

[normal mist]

Pvp maybe

[hollow river]

no

Subterfuge

[gusty mirage]

We just pray our lord and savior scari makes the 4pc speed up sepsis

And then we stonks to the moon boys

[static pier]

Sepsis? Never heard of it

Only flagellators allowed

[gusty mirage]

All of sepsis fitting into shiv

[normal mist]

I do have a problem tho, my ambush key is my c.t key.

How will i bind a new key to ambush now

1st world problems

[gusty mirage]

Grow another finger

[static pier]

Someone remind me how TO works
Do you sepsis>shiv>wait for sepsis to expire>blow cds?

[gusty mirage]

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/i-never-thought-of-that-i-cant-imagine-i-cant-believe-not-in-mind-i-didnt-think-of-that-gif-15827065

[gusty mirage]

I’ll find you the message link from whispyr, un momento friend

[hollow river]

we shiv->sepsis right

here

is whispyr's msg

[gusty mirage]

#916546791472783371 message

[gusty mirage]

Daaaaamn homies got it screenshotted

Actually a great idea

[normal mist]

[hollow river]

all this time slamming shiv on CD

to this

[gusty mirage]

I mean it’s p much the same now

It’ll def take some getting used to

[tight ginkgo]

i may have to learn an ounce of delayed gratification if i give this a whirl

[static pier]

I can't wait to let all that info fall directly through my sieve of a brain just so i can continue playing venthy

[gusty mirage]

I respect it

[sweet gale]

Super new to assassination, why am I seeing people open with mutilate and use mutilate out of vanish instead of ambush or garrote?

[gusty mirage]

The combo point generation from master assassin. Right now we don’t play subterfuge outside of m+ (that will be changing in 9.2)

Mutilate crits = 4cp, ambush crits are 3cp

That’s essentially the simple answer

[static pier]

I mean hey I'm playing sin already instead of sub, may as well be edgy too

[alpine latch]

Woah, we're going to play Subterfuge in raid?

Is that what you meant oxi?

[hollow river]

yes

[alpine latch]

wowza

That's going to be new

[hollow river]

we're also going to press Ambush

[alpine latch]

ewwww

[spice spire]

Sort of, right n the fact that it’s not the focal point of our damage CC: shrouded suffocation

But we’ve ran sub in raid before

[alpine latch]

Well, at least my WA will make a comeback

I have a "Ambush/BTW Dumbass" WA

For when Ambush is free or Between The Eyes is available

I made the BTE/BTW typo

And it makes me laugh when big red letters pop up that say "BTW DUMBASS"

[spice spire]

Accurate.
I used to freak out about stealth bars, and just added the button for ambush

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I use alt 2 for CT/Ambush

Can't tell you the last time I ambushed, though

[strange python]

NF feels super hectic

Fights like artificer with constant downtime/target swapping had me exhausted

And something about DS feels super fucking bad to play with. Maybe just needs more haste?

[limber lion]

But... why though?

It's less hectic than Venthyr

You press Sepsis followed by Shiv and it does the job

Don't have to stick to a target to aimlessly hit it for 12s to fill up the Flag bar

Or even use MFD, which is hectic in itself

[strange python]

Not sure. Maybe I need to get used to it. Maybe it's just the 4set and dusk I'm conflating with it

[limber lion]

Definitely

[strange python]

It's 5 am :(

[limber lion]

I mean, the 4p is definitely a big part in the hectic and more speedy gameplay

[strange python]

Brain sleep

All I know is that artificer on mythic felt horrendous as sin, since we went to platform before vendetta expired

And even on normal, vend was timing up with intermissions which feels bad

[limber lion]

I mean just doing the fight once or twice won't tell you much

It'll start to make sense when tuning is actually done and the bosses are balanced

Everything in ptr is a bit off

[strange python]

I think I'm just overall bleh on sepulcher. Haven't found many of the fights particularly enjoyable from a mechanics end

[alpine latch]

Probably also because it's new - if you're anything like me, it takes a week or two to get the feel

[limber lion]

Could turn into a pretty good raid once tuning is complete

[strange python]

I mean ptr is always ptr. But sanctum was genuinely interesting to me. Undertuned for sure, but all the Sepulcher mechanics just feel annoying

[limber lion]

Yeh, each to their own

I wasn't a fan of SoD in ptr

but I quite like it nowadays tbh

Not a fan of Fatescribe or KT, everything else is fine

[strange python]

Debuff clear on Hal seems obnoxious, skolex in general seems atrocious on mythic, I truly despise everything about new artificer

I beg to sit on KT every week :(

[limber lion]

And who knows, maybe the last 3 fights are great

[strange python]

Fair enough

Oh and the fucking wall boss. Awful.

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion can we get a sped up sepsis with the 4pc already

[limber lion]

That's just a typical first boss to be fair

Most first bosses are very cheesy and out of the box

[strange python]

Shriekwing and tarragrue we're p fun.

[gusty mirage]

Shriek made me rethink the intelligence of the average human

[strange python]

Thats true for sure

[limber lion]

Hellfire Citadel had a first "boss" which was a bit

interesting

But yeh, don't think too hard about it

[strange python]

I mean wall boss is basically HFC 2.0

[brazen zodiac]

ha good one

[whole bluff]

Cev, I had a dream last night about you

[brazen zodiac]

..?

[limber lion]

You wipe on it once or twice and then you get it done.

[whole bluff]

And you played boomkin

[limber lion]

[brazen zodiac]

hide

[limber lion]

oh boy

not a great start to a story if I'm playing boomkin

[strange python]

I'm more thinking about doing these bosses for 8 months on farm. Prog will generally take us less than 6 weeks, most of the time in the patch will be farm.

[whole bluff]

Xd I think it was something like raid testing and I see on my raid frames "Ceverion" on orange background

[brazen zodiac]

i had a dream the jailor was trying to kill me irl

we should take a break from wow

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

@limber lion greetings and salutations, it is I, the Thunder chicken police. It seems you have broken rule 2.003.62, playing boomkin in another rogue player’s dream. Please come with me, and this can end peacefully.

[brazen zodiac]

quick make a run for it

sup quakes did u take a nap at all

[spice spire]

Nah, walked the dog, morning work out and dinner prep stuff

Just got to work an hour or so ago

[brazen zodiac]

that's the most adult thing

work out and prepare dinner stuff

[spice spire]

That’s the daily, vita

[brazen zodiac]

i just smoke weed and eat crackers in the morning

and go to work whenever they call xd

[spice spire]

Except the weekends, I am lazy af on the weekends. Will wake up at 11

[brazen zodiac]

im required by my job to workout but i don't zzz

oh boy 11 am pog

so reckless

[alpine latch]

My morning consists of rolling out of bed, doing the shit/shower routine, and driving my ass to the office

I wish I had time for actual life before work

[spice spire]

I’m an old man, vita. It is reckless

[brazen zodiac]

the shit shower routine lmfaooo

[alpine latch]

Well, shit/shower/shave is the "traditional" routine

[brazen zodiac]

i am a bright spirited woman

[alpine latch]

But I got a beard and I'm not shaving it

[brazen zodiac]

jk im fkin dead

[spice spire]

But during the week I’m a 4 am - midnight-ish man. So I sleep on the weekends lmao

I need to shave mine down again, it’s getting out of control

[viscid spear]

Define 'old'.

[brazen zodiac]

70

hard working 70 year old playing rogue

[spice spire]

Yes ma’am

Nah, I’m turning 30 in six months

[brazen zodiac]

pog

that was originally my first guess

[viscid spear]

I'm 33

[brazen zodiac]

i feel so young :(

[spice spire]

You also act younger than you are 😛
I’m a grumpy old man stuck on this body

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Yeah but you’re hot wtf, oxi.
I look like a decade older than you homie, get outta here

[brazen zodiac]

gotta be life like and wild

otherwise id be a sac of rotten potatoes

ur never stuck quake go wild

don't make me dm u the clip from that episode of american dad

[spice spire]

I did wild shit when I was younger, stuff not appropriate for this discord.
I just have a wonderful fiancé and two great animals.
I don’t feel stuck by any means, so like if I don’t work out early, I won’t work out.

And if I don’t do that 20 minutes of cardio, 30 lifting. I’ll get fat(ter) so that’s a pretty necessary thing for me to do.

I party when appropriate but during pandemic times, those are few and far in between.

[brazen zodiac]

wow u sound like an adult

rad

post pics of animals plz and tell ur fiance i said hi

[strange python]

Same. May 22

Rogues Turning 30 joint bday.

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

Hardship builds character

[spice spire]

But also you only have four months sir

[clever kindle]

I already turned 30

[viscid spear]

I play a Rogue because I wish I could escape and hide from my problems irl

[spice spire]

Damn

This turned dark

[nocturne geode]

no ash dont be sadge

😢

[glass tulip]

30 year olds

[viscid spear]

[strange python]

True. But we're celebrating late and going to New Orleans in August

[spice spire]

Nice! New Orleans is a fun town! I stayed at a nice older couple’s guest house in the French quarter. Was a great time, despite almost being mugged 😛

[strange python]

Sounds like my time there a few years ago lmao

And spooky waterbugs

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

Bro?

[spice spire]

My fiancé has never been, so that is on the list

[spice spire]

Yeah bro?

[gusty mirage]

You good?

[spice spire]

Yeah man

Just got an oxi pic early in the am and had to wash some pants

You know the vibes

[gusty mirage]

[glass tulip]

You guys are my world bro

[viscid spear]

Close your eyes, bro

[normal mist]

"I see only darkness, ash-sama"

[viscid spear]

That's my world without you, Royal-sempai

[normal mist]

[viscid spear]

We're all frens here

[nocturne geode]

[normal mist]

#assassination is just a big chat room where we complain about the spec and deliver love for those in need. We also a bit gay.

[spice spire]

Unsure if it’s PC to equating caring for the homies to love.

An actual statement, not a condemnation. It’s okay to care

[normal mist]

Sharing is caring, caring is loving. Right? Don't quote me on that

[alpine latch]

Didn't we dub you the Loinmaster like a week or two ago?

[viscid spear]

Bros before hoes

Loots before sloots

[spice spire]

Did we

[alpine latch]

Longer ago than I though, time flies

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

I forgot this exchange existed

[alpine latch]

haha

I need to figure out how to use my defensives better in m+

[strange python]

Easy. Sit in oribos and play Diablo if you wanna do Diablo gameplay.

No chance you'll die in wow then

[alpine latch]

Tyranical PF, the final boss just chunks

[spice spire]

What are you running with?

[alpine latch]

Our group right now is Guardian Druid, RShaman, BM hunter, Enh Shaman, me

[spice spire]

I’ll generally cloak the second rain. Just to be safe.
I’ll also fleshcraft if it’s needed for one, I really rely on my healer letting me know what they need

[alpine latch]

The Enh is healing a ton on that boss

[spice spire]

When I ran I had a bdk for amz as well.

Yeah it’s open communication; you’ll not have a CD for one, and that’s when you should cloak

Because rain is the only danger on that fight

[alpine latch]

yeah

I need to try Bolstering on it too for the extra damage from the adds

[spice spire]

That could work

They generally die during intermission, unless you skip OTPs

Oros even

[alpine latch]

Someone mentioned going Bolstering on PF because literally every boss spawns adds

IDK who, maybe Cev/Seli/Minal

[echo geyser]

its good yeah

[alpine latch]

Do you only go Bolstering in PF?

[spice spire]

It makes sense - I just brain dead take more crit

[echo geyser]

esp when u use cancelaura macro for it, otherwise its kinda eh

[spice spire]

You’d go bolstering on explosive week everywhere

[alpine latch]

Yeah

I don't take it ever

I need to start

I just want to learn to not suck

[spice spire]

Same

[exotic gyro]

Well sin on explosive week doesn't sound like a good time

[nocturne geode]

wym you just auto the orb or mut it

[bleak sky]

being mentioned with these 2

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

just let the shaman frost shock it

[alpine latch]

You've helped me a ton with m+ man

[gusty mirage]

All I get is trolled @bleak sky wtf bro

[alpine latch]

We don't always see the game in the same way, but you're a far better player than I am

[bleak sky]

get rolled loser

[alpine latch]

I never troll you oxi

[gusty mirage]

Minal’s bitch ass does

Guy messaged me about my 23

Trolling me

[bleak sky]

WHAT

[gusty mirage]

“Nice key nerd lmao only a 23 what a shitter”

[bleak sky]

lmfao

[echo geyser]

[bleak sky]

fucking lawyers lying man

[alpine latch]

I timed 2 +20s this weekend

Hoping to get 1-2 more tonight

[gusty mirage]

Man is like 50 io higher than me and just makes fun of me

[bleak sky]

I happy to see THE oxi on pugs doing a key

[gusty mirage]

Lmao don’t that key went to a 24 then turned into a 21 in the span of an hour

[bleak sky]

jesus

[gusty mirage]

I wanted to uninstall

[bleak sky]

I had an interesting key opportunity yesterday

joined top 25, joined their discord

[gusty mirage]

The tank I usually run with said last week was “bad” because of bolstering

[bleak sky]

one of them started being racist/homophobic just for fun and I left

[gusty mirage]

Let me guess, tich players

[bleak sky]

naw azralon

my home realm

[gusty mirage]

Weirdge

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

Is that what they’re saying in Portuguese?

[bleak sky]

ya

[gusty mirage]

They making fun of us?

SMH

[bleak sky]

last week wasn't even that bad

was just fifne

[gusty mirage]

I miss my fav South American player, Samarayomago

A frost mage from Ragnaros

Dude was a GAMER

[bleak sky]

pm them

[gusty mirage]

Didn’t speak a word of English but legit pumped dam

[spice spire]

Ragnaros/azralon exemplifies the duality of man

Either absolute pumpers or dog water

[gusty mirage]

We didn’t even realize he was frost until halfway through a KR

[spice spire]

Never have seen an average rag player

[gusty mirage]

Then he deleted the eyeballs on blob dude

I was like wtf

[alpine latch]

In my NW last night our Prot Pally did more damage than our Ret Pally did

[gusty mirage]

1 glacial spike they went from 85% to dead on a 22

Lmao

[bleak sky]

whenever I find a Unity player I'm just

[alpine latch]

jeez

[gusty mirage]

I was like bruh

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

Only mage to ever beat me in KR in bfa

Wild times

[bleak sky]

keys are wild sometimes man

[spice spire]

Did some dark tech nonsense on NW this weekend and blanked it. Felt bad

[bleak sky]

did you try vanishing the send down?

[gusty mirage]

But ye @spice spire rag/azralon players are either god tier or garbage

Idk what it is

[spice spire]

I did

[bleak sky]

vanishing and missing feelsbadman

[spice spire]

Skipped right side trash on big pull

[alpine latch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GJy8n2cBWbDLkmQ4#fight=last

[spice spire]

Was weird

[alpine latch]

Legit, prot pally did 5900 and ret did 5600

[bleak sky]

jesus it was a 20

[alpine latch]

Yes

[bleak sky]

I was expecting a weekly 15

[gusty mirage]

If they’re pulling big it makes sense

[alpine latch]

It was OCE too, so I was lagging my ass off

[bleak sky]

for a ret to do little damage

[gusty mirage]

Prot pallies shit out the damage

[exotic gyro]

What you mean lol ret does crazy aoe burst

[alpine latch]

I didn't realize I joined an OCE group until I zoned into the dungeon

[gusty mirage]

But kinda sus on the ret

[spice spire]

Ret pally also was dead a bit

[alpine latch]

The top floor with 250-300 ping sucked hard

I ate so much shit I shouldn't have because I just couldn't avoid it

[spice spire]

His active dps was higher

[bleak sky]

yeah OCE ping is a no go

[spice spire]

Ol boy just gotta stay alive

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I was annoyed when I realized it

[gusty mirage]

Good thing pallies struggle to keep themselves up

[spice spire]

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

It’s so hard to stay alive as a pally

With your own full heal

[gusty mirage]

Not enough defensives

[spice spire]

Awful stuff

[normal mist]

I thought all Portuguese players were on aggra/grimbatol

[bleak sky]

they've got so little utility and defensives

they need a buff

[bleak sky]

that's EU I think

[normal mist]

Yeah

[spice spire]

South America speaks Portuguese too, some countries anyway

[gusty mirage]

Ragnaros, Azralon, drakkari, goldrinn, gallywix, and quel’thalas

[spice spire]

It’s not just Portugal

[gusty mirage]

The dreamteam of ripped keys

[bleak sky]

damn oxi with the latam server lore

[spice spire]

Qt is close to soft black listed for me

[normal mist]

You sure you are not talking about Spanish? XD

[gusty mirage]

I pigged all of bfa bro

[spice spire]

Yes

[bleak sky]

I'm confident it's not spanish.

[gusty mirage]

Well seeing as they speak Portuguese in Brazil, couldn’t be more sure

[normal mist]

Oh south, Brazilians

[spice spire]

Yes, not south of America

South America

[normal mist]

Yeah yeah

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

But lemme tell you somethin

You can roll the dice on a LatAm player

[normal mist]

I didn't want the - português in front of my name, so i went grim batol

[gusty mirage]

And these guys will show you shit you never saw possible

Like I saw a prot warrior just shit out the damage before

Like things that’d make the NA elitists blush

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gihun-squidgame-shocked-lmao-gif-23348153

[bleak sky]

bruh it's been a while since I last saw a prot war

since........9.1

[gusty mirage]

But then you get a 2.6k IO mage from ragnaros that does 6.5k overall

[spice spire]

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

It’s like Russian roulette with your key

[spice spire]

It’s truly duality

[normal mist]

Last one i saw did as much overall in a 15 as our middle dps, around 7k

[spice spire]

It’s usually fotm LATAM players that scare me.
You’ll find that one trick that’s a god gamer tho

[gusty mirage]

You know what’s worse?

[spice spire]

Let me remove LATAM altogether

NA fotm players

[gusty mirage]

Late night Illidan mages

[spice spire]

TRUE

[gusty mirage]

Haven’t found a good one all expac

[spice spire]

Illidan is also a shitty server for pugging

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

They’re the one that ripped the 21 spires

[bleak sky]

late night illidan mage + shaman carried my ass through a 24 DoS so I can't complain about them

[spice spire]

Mister minalba had the hook up

On luck

[gusty mirage]

Only illidan mage I’ll play with that I don’t know personally is Jhazy

Perma declined from my keys otherwise

[normal mist]

For some reason i keep having bad experiences with spanish people

[bleak sky]

jhazy is a gamer

[gusty mirage]

Jhazy got me flamed by a tank

Dude W keyed a 20 sanguine and I didn’t say a word all key

Jhazy asked him if he’s done the dungeon before

“Shit talking after we time it? LMAO. Fuck all you illidan douchebags”

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

I didn’t even say anything

[bleak sky]

oh jhazy quit ww?

what a shame

[gusty mirage]

Legit all I typed was “lmk when you want lanterns opened”

[spice spire]

Oh no, I had a couple of thrall people rip the 21.

[gusty mirage]

Ye he’s always been a mage main tho

[bleak sky]

oh

[gusty mirage]

He just played ww this expac

[bleak sky]

I learned about him through his discord, someone linked it to me

and there he was ww gaming

spinning and winning

[gusty mirage]

Ye dudes a gamer

Super nice guy too tbh

[strange python]

guys, venth for sylvanas mythic right ? necrolord is not viable at all

defensives-wise

[bleak sky]

defensives wise?

necro is viable, venth is better

[strange python]

a friend said play kyrian if it's viable phial clears arrow stacks

i was like unfortunately no

[bleak sky]

kyrian is a sub / outlaw thing yeah

[strange python]

i play assa the entire patch, i dont feel comfortable with sub 😄

but i was wondering if playing necro instead of venth would make a big difference

cause i could use the shield i know it

[bleak sky]

nah, feint will carry you

[strange python]

fair enough

[subtle kiln]

door of shadows > shield on that encounter

[wary ice]

thrall is a garbage server

we're literally an english speaking quel'thalas

[spice spire]

Yeah the two I ran with weren’t great and then flamed at the end for not timing.
I know some gamers in thrall tho

So maybe closer to an English azralon , at least there’s hope

[gusty mirage]

I'm telling Zeph you said that @spice spire

[spice spire]

Obviously relating zeph to “I know some gamers on thrall”

Lawyer can’t even read L

[glass tulip]

[gusty mirage]

so you just said zeph is the same as your typical azralon player?

toxic

that's Zeph the MAN

godtier gamer

[spice spire]

I would never call Zeph Zephyr to their face, only THE MAN.

[gusty mirage]

comparing zeph to normal gamers

you make me sick

[spice spire]

Bro azralon are fraggers or absolute dumpster fires.
It’s obvious where THE MAN belongs

[wary ice]

i have never played with an azralon fragger

[atomic saddle]

Does it look like we are going to play Deeper Stratagem for 9.2 due to energy capping in vendetta?

[soft shale]

as nf chances are yes

[gusty mirage]

?

literally all of them play DS except for venthyr in 9.2

[atomic saddle]

why no DS as venthyr?

[bleak sky]

flag loves mfd

[gusty mirage]

because mfd is better

[echo geyser]

[soft shale]

more damaguuu

[viscid spear]

Thrall is a garbage character, makes sense.

[wary ice]

At least he isn't Jaina:(

[marble hemlock]

theyre both dreadlords, its fine

[gusty mirage]

spoilers dude wtf

[marble hemlock]

yeah

after SL ends, we'll be told that BfA/SL were just nightmares concocted by the coven of shivarra to torture varimathras and we'll be waking up back in legion again

[gusty mirage]

do I get the class hall back?

[hollow escarp]

this time Ravenholdt

[gusty mirage]

and kingsbane?

[marble hemlock]

you can go back into the sewer, sure

#sink

[alpine latch]

I'm still sad we got a sewer and not some random ass bar in the world

It would have been so much cooler if we just got some random inn or something

Or, you know ... Ravenholdt

[viscid spear]

Or, you know, Ravenholdt

[bleak sky]

Google what is ravenholdt

Because I thought it was the sewer's name

[viscid spear]

You're in it, silly

[marble hemlock]

ravenholdt is a sewer, yeah

[brazen zodiac]

a good smelling sewer

[gusty mirage]

[cerulean nest]

which abilities in sylv p1 apply barbed arrow stacks?

[bleak sky]

Looking at disc banner tsc tsc

[gusty mirage]

standing in mechanics applies a stack, and she also does it randomly

[viscid spear]

Could've built a new building on Broken Isles and called it New Ravenholdt

[cerulean nest]

some others Im talking to are saying none do, besides her random ability that targets people

[gusty mirage]

tbh its a crapshoot

I've gotten hit by descrating and it didn't apply anything

[bleak sky]

Idk if the circle on the ground applies stack

[gusty mirage]

and then there's pulls where I got hit by it and it applied a stack

[bleak sky]

I think it's really just rng

[gusty mirage]

maybe it was just weird rng

[bleak sky]

Just don't get picked

[viscid spear]

Does something else in phase 1 give a stack? Because I'm 100% sure I'm avoiding everything but still ending up with 2-3 stacks

[gusty mirage]

yes she applies it randomly as well

am I typing in a foreign language?

[viscid spear]

Gotta keep you on your toes

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Yeah

Common sense is a foreign language, and I can’t read it

I’m just going to flame my healers

[gusty mirage]

do you wake up every day and want me to hate you?

is that your kink?

[bleak sky]

Yes

[bleak sky]

Yes

[spice spire]

I just enjoy fueling the fire is all

[glass tulip]

Mr. Quake is just a pot stirrer

[cerulean nest]

basically our healers are using the argument of "well standing in the mechanics doesnt give us extra stacks" as a reason going forward to ignore them if they;re casting

[bleak sky]

this sounds dumb

"yeah let me stand on a 40k hit when I could just walk out of it"

[brazen zodiac]

no but its mine now only cause it does sound like a kink

u smell oxi ew

i hope u have a great day smelly

[gusty mirage]

[glass tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/that-smell-a-kind-of-smelly-smell-a-smelly-smell-that-smells-smelly-mr-krabs-spongebob-squarepants-gif-17867170

smoxi

[spice spire]

Don’t bully the homie, damn

[gusty mirage]

[brazen zodiac]

🦨

[glass tulip]

thinking about doing class hall quests and stuff today for titles and mounts

are they hard?

[brazen zodiac]

class hall?

[gusty mirage]

nah just a bit time consuming

the mount stuff takes a bit longer cause iirc some of it is tied to the legion mission table

[glass tulip]

content

[gusty mirage]

but like its still really good content even if its trivial now

[brazen zodiac]

ur good content oxi

:)

[alpine latch]

Just updated my RIO profile to make it more accurate

Recruitment Officer for IRONFIST Gaming, mediocre rogue, and constantly dies to shades/thrusts.

[viscid spear]

I die to thrusting all the time

[bleak sky]

I like to get thrusted

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

[alpine latch]

I don't, but it's a running joke with my group that I don't dodge them on purpose

I tried telling my healer I'm just helping her with her parses

[bleak sky]

[echo geyser]

next tier u can have dreamweaver pod too

@scarlet spade

[glass tulip]

this is how rogue works, right?

[pearl ingot]

hard to fight against all the sub rogue´s in lfg will drop out of m+ cutoff pretty soon hopefully next week will be better =/

[alpine latch]

The only Sub rogue I have ran with this season, I dumpstered in m+

He was not good at all

[pearl ingot]

it probably wasn´t ramfam 😄

[alpine latch]

It definitely wasn't ram

Or JPC

lol

Or Seli

Shit, Seli is Sin

Wasn't him either though

[pearl ingot]

it´s just stressfull to compete but a handfull assas are doing fine!

[spice spire]

Seli runs sub too

[bleak sky]

Keep that title

Make us proud

[bleak sky]

Seli is in prio prison

[spice spire]

[pearl ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-tribbiani-friends-smile-ramzes19-scromnyaga-gif-12180398

[spice spire]

I might break the OTP title, mister minalba.

I’m forced prio rn.
9.8king my way through dungeons

[alpine latch]

I ran a +15 as Outlaw yesterday. I hated it

[balmy condor]

You might play… NIGHT FAE SIN?

[spice spire]

I already did

And venthyr

[balmy condor]

Impossible

[spice spire]

Never Kyrian tho

[strange python]

Man I hate night fae already >_>

[balmy condor]

Venthyr and night fae are not green miq

[spice spire]

NF omega chill tbh

[spice spire]

I known

[balmy condor]

But you only play green covenant

[spice spire]

Oh wait I got one for you, look me up on raider.io

Check the covenant used

[strange python]

I guess I just don’t understand how nf does more damage than venthyr

[limber lion]

Why is that?

The 2p directly increases the damage Sepsis deals

The tier set increases the value of Subterfuge and NF benefits more from Subterfuge than Venthyr does

[strange python]

idk i guess im so accustomed to venthyr, when im testing on venthyr i do so much more damage

[limber lion]

And in fact Subterfuge is not great for Venthyr

[solemn plaza]

trust in the number crunchers

[limber lion]

Guess you just play your rotation wrong, that's all

[strange python]

^ thats the thing its supposed to be easy idk

[limber lion]

It's not like the difference is 1k damage

[strange python]

what i could be doing wrong

[limber lion]

it's a few hundred if that

just placebo

[strange python]

i must be fucking up something big time though cause the damage difference is huge

[limber lion]

They are honestly very similar in playstyle

[strange python]

i think im fucking the opener

[limber lion]

Kyrian and Necrolord are completely different in how they work

Opener does not account for 95% of your dps

it's so small

[strange python]

then i have absolutely no clue

[limber lion]

Do you have the tierset

Do you have double legos

[strange python]

yup

i have everything

[limber lion]

If so, press Vendetta on cooldown, press Sepsis on cooldown (syncing every other with Vend), sync Shiv with every Vend

That's it

Profit

[strange python]

venthyr im doing 10k-11k ish NF i was doing 8-9

[spice spire]

Why is this? I’m positive this is 100% correct but for some reasonI’m not parsing it in my brain.

[strange python]

exactly what i was doing too

[limber lion]

On what?

A dummy?

[strange python]

dummy

[limber lion]

I doubt you do 10-11k as Venth

Omega doubt

[strange python]

let me try again

[limber lion]

maybe the first 30s

Do a 10 min pull

Of each

[pliant granite]

What cov is looking the best for 9.2?

[spice spire]

Also I responded to the wrong thing. I meant why is subterfuge getting more in NF than venth*

[pliant granite]

In raid

[spice spire]

But the more I use my brain, the more I realize, flag windows

[strange python]

the peak of damage was just so much higher on venthyr cause of the burst i think

[limber lion]

Yeh, Venth likes combo points more, which makes MA better

But the tier set likes Subterfuge more

NF solves both issues

because nf is goated

[spice spire]

Makes perfect sense

[balmy condor]

You can check the pins, the ptr channels pins, both have info

[strange python]

i was doing like 10k ish over 3 min, ill test again

[spice spire]

Now that I walk through it

[gusty mirage]

just stay a bonerspiker

enjoy your zero ST dps covenant leggo

and then you can stay true to who you are

[bleak sky]

You're dead to me now

[spice spire]

I’m definitely not going to do Necro given current status

[strange python]

i actually can't pull it off

lol

every time im doing like 8.4k

with my melee doing the most damage

[limber lion]

that's fine

[alpine latch]

Other than Winds of Winter, melee always does the most damage for me

[strange python]

everyone told me i had to be doing 10k on here yesterday as NF

[limber lion]

have you simmed yourself for ptr

against a training dummy

[strange python]

i have not

[limber lion]

with both covenants

[strange python]

ill try after

[limber lion]

might wanna give that a shot

Of course things like consumables, raid buffs and whatnot might affect it some

[subtle kiln]

ez. just win game before week 3 of mythic.

[spice spire]

That’s what I’m saying, Mr. Scath. Man just wants to hate

[subtle kiln]

oxi just bloated and angry

he’ll be fine once he souls shapes into a fat corgi

[spice spire]

Very true

Critter shape is bis by far

[alpine latch]

Bro I turn into a goat

And ram shit with my horns

It's the best

[cerulean nest]

what are talents/soulbind/conduits for NF? and still dusk?

havent seen a comprehensive post anywhere

[subtle kiln]

you can open the sims and it will show you the load out

[spice spire]

Dusk/dreamweaver

Triple potency

[limber lion]

Because it's PTR. Anything and everything can change.

[cerulean nest]

of course, that notwithstanding

[limber lion]

No point really making comprehensive stuff about things that might see a change.

But currently looking like Dreamweaver with WPS, SS, LP

DUSK EVERYWHERE

always.

EP/Subt/DS/Alac/PB talents

[spice spire]

I’m ngl, build path actually has me pretty stoked for NF

[limber lion]

Hell yeah

[spice spire]

We love different rotations.
Keeps your love of assassination strong

[cerulean nest]

ty ty

[strange python]

Switching to feral at this rate

[alpine latch]

Okay, I'm asking this unironically... But will the set impact whether or not we want Mastery?

[cerulean nest]

anyone have a ptr log of just a full fight rotation so I can see it?

[pallid bough]

Night fae broke this person

[strange python]

😭

Going back to the spec that should actually be night fae

[spice spire]

Yes and no.
Yeah it will make it relatively wanted, but it’s not going to skyrocket to #1 or even number two.
It’s like #2.5. Like with all patches, you’re going to want some combination of stats and not just index all into x or y.

So yeah it moves up a little, afaik. But not enough to say I need mastery you’ll just have it shoot up on prio if you stack crit haste too much

[gusty mirage]

I'd be less bloated if I got a border collie* pupper

and less angry

🙂

[spice spire]

Dog pfps triggering oxi rn

[bleak sky]

Check the latest sims and open the sample rotation thing

You can see how it plays out there

[inland hull]

If you've got a warrior willing to roll necro, would the banner be a noticeable gain for NF sin?

[nocturne geode]

did anyone ever find anymor einfo on those datamined daggers?

are they real

[cerulean nest]

would that be this one? https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eK3JWjgQbWBgWuL7VAiVDF

[drifting cloud]

does the nitro thing knock you out of stealth when its dmging you?

[subtle tundra]

this is the way.

[limber lion]

Doesn't all damage do that?

[alpine latch]

Hey Cev, have we seen any new info about the dagger set from 9.2? I don't remember seeing that on any boss loot tables

[limber lion]

We have not. Honestly, we don't even know if it even exists

[nocturne geode]

[lyric crater]

NF 12k huh but that around 252

[spice spire]

The mastery gain is nice; however, it’s a 2 minute CD, compared to the 1.5 of sepsis. This could mean it’s not as effective as you’d think.

[alpine latch]

Also, according to the sim https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eK3JWjgQbWBgWuL7VAiVDF is it taking the Blood shards into account?

[spice spire]

They’d naturally line up on opener and at 6 minutes. Unsure if holding for the rogue would be the play

[alpine latch]

Because the Top Gear still shows those as being equipped

Oh it's just defensive shards

nevermind then

[spice spire]

Blood link also not shown on the damage done

So no 😛

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I knew blood link wasn't

I didn't check the shards themselves and had a brain fart

That's what I get for questioning the almighty Whispyr

[spice spire]

I think it’s fine to question what’s presented to you.
That’s how the whole night fae thing started. It was pretty well known that venthyr was going to be a fine choice going into next patch, but someone brought night fae up. Not asking questions will lead to stale patterns and not promote innovation.
Almost all of the time, it’ll probably be nothing, or within margin. But you’ll never know if you don’t ask.

[cerulean nest]

sorry guys i'm dumb and dont know how to fetch the sample rotation thing from the NF sims, can anyone assist?

[spice spire]

Yes un moment, I’ll screenshot

[echo geyser]

so what about kyrian sin doe?

[spice spire]

@cerulean nest go to full HTML report at the bottom of the sim.

Once you get there, click on the NF 4P tab, and a drop down with other headers will show. Click on action priority list and scroll past the APL rules and you should see one that pops up called sample sequence table that should show you the sample rotation

[spice spire]

it might be, but that’s the one covenant I won’t touch on sin

[lyric crater]

kyrian a big maybe if u have there lego that charge 4 cp i use it for sub and man those 8-10k cirts are hot

[bleak sky]

Not that juicy for sin though

[cerulean nest]

holy shit lol

never knew any of this existed

ty

[spice spire]

Any time king

Glad to help

[limber lion]

A good thing to note here, is that the simulation sims different fight length encounters thousands of times and randomly picks one to show to you.

Meaning that you should scroll to the bottom and see the fight length, so you understand why the bot is doing the things it's doing

Sometimes it likes to hold the second Vendetta for Sepsis, which is something you wouldn't normally do, unless you knew the fight length in advance.

[oblique smelt]

Can you vendetta 1st and 2nd burn Sylvanas mythic? from looking at timers it should be possible but maybe a bit wasted, is it worth?

[subtle kiln]

yes

[oblique smelt]

Yes as in you can or yes as in it's waste

[subtle kiln]

cloak 1st wave. cloak 4th wave of p2

during burn

unload

[balmy condor]

that's the painful stuff that keeps me up at night

[limber lion]

You don't get full value out of the second Vendetta, but it's better than nothing

Sometimes it's a bit scuffed if the other side gets to Sylvanas much quicker the first time around

[viscid spear]

Whispyr's unspoken nightmare

[oblique smelt]

tyvm gents

[limber lion]

Gl

[subtle kiln]

did they just assume my gender?

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

Sorry, carbon-based life form

[subtle kiln]

more better

[oblique smelt]

Very sorry, how rude of me

tyvm presumably humans

[brazen zodiac]

ba..based..?

[spice spire]

Scath is a dog it’s their pfp

[brazen zodiac]

quakebake

[subtle kiln]

woof

[spice spire]

Yes ma’am?

[brazen zodiac]

i was using niya this whoel time :(

[viscid spear]

The conversion of oxygen into carbon dioxide is a riveting experience, am I correct, fellow human beings?

[spice spire]

Oh no, not a dreamweaver gamer :/

Unfort

[subtle kiln]

niya yikes

[cerulean nest]

one of many things Im sure

not that visually appealing I'll say

[spice spire]

I agree fellow human, great job converting your gasses

[brazen zodiac]

i am now a dreampogger gamer ok

[viscid spear]

vita's horny for thorny

[brazen zodiac]

oh absolutely

[spice spire]

I wouldn’t even say that it’s not visually appealing, it’s just a metric brick of info

[brazen zodiac]

tie me down and force me to parse better

[spice spire]

[cerulean nest]

yeah totally. not taking it as gospel by any means. just havent really dove into NF stuff yet and just trying to get familiar

[viscid spear]

I just spill flowers from my pockets when I slap stepsis

[arctic hare]

lol

[lyric crater]

really

hmm i should lvl the fairly people on the off change the go to later on

[viscid spear]

I would have all but Kyrian up if you only play Sin

To be covered completely, that is

[lyric crater]

i play sub for pvp only atm im sub kyrian lvling up renown think im 61

[viscid spear]

This lull of content lends plenty of time too level all the covenants

[spice spire]

I’m still slowly leveling venthyr

[lyric crater]

haha true but the grind just kills me although i have seen NF sin and sub for pvp

[viscid spear]

[ashen scroll]

Ive been going through logs and noticed that some people dont SnD the opener if its lust on pull, and rupture instead, is that common/dps increase?

[viscid spear]

Is that why I only ever saw you as Necro?

[spice spire]

Do they and after, or did they prepull?

[median silo]

If they’re mfd they prob and pre pull

[spice spire]

Yes

[brazen zodiac]

with our opener are we vanishing after we press sepsis to reapply gar and get a double ambush proc?

[viscid spear]

This is an abstract feel

[spice spire]

For 9.2?

[ashen scroll]

they have mfd yeah, but they use it at 7.5s into the pull

mfd at -22s before pull, just to get snd?

that is wild

[viscid spear]

One less thing you have to setup during opener

[balmy condor]

ONE GCD SAVED

[viscid spear]

Glorious save

[bleak sky]

Mad nerd detected can't handle the omega poggers optimization

[spice spire]

Man isn’t on the sigma grustle.
+3 dps, difference between a 42 and 79, obviously.

[viscid spear]

He doesn't MfD before pull to get SnD going!

[gusty mirage]

not like you'd know

[spice spire]

Mad cuz no dog

[viscid spear]

Why dog when cat?

[spice spire]

Because George is a cutie and a national treasure and I love him.

[balmy condor]

why red

when orange

[viscid spear]

Why orange when colorblind

[spice spire]

Based take

[gusty mirage]

IO check?

[viscid spear]

Why not varying shades of gray?

Maybe.... 50?

[spice spire]

2404

Literally ran keys one weekend in 12 weeks

[gusty mirage]

L + cope + seethe + u stink + ur mom + u play warrior lole + u wanna be me

[spice spire]

Already shit on

[balmy condor]

higher than me poggers

[alpine latch]

2291

[spice spire]

You do keys less than I do

[viscid spear]

2004

[balmy condor]

FIFTEEN

GIGA HYPE

[gusty mirage]

wow u suck

[spice spire]

L + ur breath is an existential crisis + I get a charity tax write off for responding to you + arena main now + boomer + legally white

[eternal nebula]

If anyone would mind helping me out I am terrible with logs (I know I need to get better). I am finding that I am inconsistent per pull which this is mostly just p1 wipes as we just got into p3 clean for the first time.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8pBraJGd2kxDnWPT

[surreal prism]

I have 3 toons with higher IO than you lol

[spice spire]

Less fans tho, L.

[surreal prism]

Big true

[gusty mirage]

cope + ratio + you try so hard to be me + your projecting your stank ass breath on me + it was never covid that got val sick it was your nasty ass gingivitis

[viscid spear]

Note to self, never meet your heroes

[surreal prism]

lol

[spice spire]

Ur mom gave it to me + you wish I were you + I hate lawyers

But not you 🥺

[solid venture]

the fuck am i reading

[spice spire]

Two boomers on the verge of hate banging

[viscid spear]

[solid venture]

understandable, have a nice day

[gusty mirage]

not 30 but looks 45 + lol + ur dog even hates you + you play necro

[viscid spear]

Put your goggles on, it gonna get wet

[balmy condor]

define the twin prime constant C2 as the following + conjecture then using that the quotient of the two expressions tends to 1 as x approaches infinity lmao + you're mald

[viscid spear]

42

[spice spire]

Fuck

[solid venture]

69

[spice spire]

That’s the one that got me good

[bleak sky]

Io check?

[gusty mirage]

2594

[viscid spear]

Lowe check?

[solid venture]

mythic best perf avg check?

[spice spire]

That’s pretty malleable.
Depends on how far someone has gone

The better version of this is “asp check”

[viscid spear]

All this checking and yet no one checked themselves.
Now we've wrecked ourselves

[solid venture]

[nocturne geode]

dang oxi i missed my climb to the 1% im at 2422

[echo geyser]

@balmy condor

that top 16 was the first key of the week

[balmy condor]

you'll get there king just a couple more keys and you'll have KSM

[echo geyser]

33 deaths 6min over time

[balmy condor]

if you need any help let me know

m+ is difficult