assassination

[marble hemlock]

but i guess that doesnt count for much, when theres people on youtube who make a living off of smth they like to shit on 24/7 and what they call a dead game 24/7, who call the game "dead" for the 28th time this year.

[odd hazel]

azmond gold like:
"this game sucks" doesnt even play it

[subtle tundra]

azerite became a system in 8.1, the vendor was extremely bad designed since it was just rng slot machine that could get you bis in a month or at the end of the patch, corruptions only became fun midway through the patch which was also the last patch so it wasnt interesting, benthic ruined 8.2

[vestal wren]

i don*t think wow is for the amount of content it has atm unpopular

[marble hemlock]

thats a fair assessment

[tropic ocean]

i like sl a lot more atm than at release, not only bcuz of qol but actually can log korthia without 3fps and 600ms

[marble hemlock]

covering a game you heavily dislike for years is... questionable

[odd hazel]

hes 99% negative

[fathom swift]

I definitely know people this is the case for

[odd hazel]

so his opinions to me are skewd

[vestal wren]

tbh the next 2 weeks are positive vibe weeks

super excited about timewalking

[odd hazel]

cross faction wouldnt fix anything tbh

[marble hemlock]

sure. but that doesnt mean that just because its true for some people, that itll magically fix a lot of issues the game is currently dealing with

[subtle tundra]

gonna try to do all 7 mage towers, gonna be fun to do on specs i've never played

[fathom swift]

I have friends on horde na I can't play with cause I raid oce, which is mandatory to be alli

sure, it's not the only problem, but it is a real problem

[odd hazel]

its honestly not mandatory

[subtle tundra]

my mistweaver gonna be POPPIN

[vestal wren]

seli i am unsure

[odd hazel]

i raided as ally on EST U.S

[hollow escarp]

I still have a lot of alliance friends but that's because I just transferred to horde 7 months ago

[vestal wren]

i think a lot of current problems rly come from the fact that content releases are so slow

[fathom swift]

it is mandatory to be alli for oce if you want to raid in a decent guild ya

[odd hazel]

OH i read it wrong

my b

[vestal wren]

the content release cycle is almost double that from legion

[odd hazel]

i think if they just released small raids/dungeons in between we'd be fine

[hollow escarp]

one raid every 6 months

we also kinda had nyalotha for 10 months but still

[odd hazel]

who else remembers raiding SoO for like 2 years

it felt like

[burnt latch]

my favorite past time is triggering people that quit wow by telling them I actually enjoy the game

for some reason it gets them going

[odd hazel]

DDDUDDE SAME

[tropic ocean]

but end of addon raid vs 2nd raid and cn was already longer than ever

[burnt latch]

its funny how outraged they are that not everyone shares their views

[vestal wren]

i did write up the times a lot during bfa, and in sl. I can dig it up.
But a new content patch comes every ~7 months instead of 3.5 in legion

[odd hazel]

its funny because they have the most out dated opinions for the game lmao

[vestal wren]

and with that i don't count raids as only content

[odd hazel]

or havent played in 14 years

[vestal wren]

this is also in line with why a lot of people felt overwhelmed in legion with how much content there was

[tropic ocean]

by the time were at now in legion already cleared 3rd raid 🤣

[burnt latch]

even people who quit in shadowlands, they seem to think that everyone playing the game is miserable playing the game and just addicted.

[vestal wren]

while people feel bored in sl from

[burnt latch]

theyre right, i am miserable but wow has nothing to do with that

[odd hazel]

tbh, playing the game differently lately has helped me enjoy it more then focusing on raid as much as possible or M+

[burnt latch]

the pretty much endless amount of optimzation u can do in this game in pve content keeps me going

u can almost always improve on something

in m+ or raid

and thats good content for me

[odd hazel]

i've never run out of stuff to do in this game

which peopel say all the time

[burnt latch]

actually same

[tropic ocean]

u never do outside current content

[hollow escarp]

that's because some people are only interested in certain aspects of the game, and you can't really blame them

[tropic ocean]

but in current content pretty fast

[subtle tundra]

i wish seasons were 3-4 months so the m+ pushing seasons would actually be competitive and mean more
now there are 3 rotations of the affixes and people only play the really good weeks, kinda sad

[odd hazel]

tbh we should be able to stop at any level to do old ocntent like its current

[burnt latch]

i only exclusively raid and do m+, and i feel like ive still got loads of stuff to do

[hollow escarp]

tanking this week in m+ certainly keeps you awake

[burnt latch]

so dont think current content runs dry fast either

[odd hazel]

people just get bored easily, and thats on them

[tropic ocean]

like theres no improvements for my character outside kt loot

[burnt latch]

yeh

[tropic ocean]

which is 3 hours per week

[odd hazel]

level all classes, and get them maxxed

do all specs

GG

[subtle tundra]

thats why you get alts

[hollow escarp]

[tropic ocean]

i have pal mage warr

[burnt latch]

I mean gear is gear, but i feel like there arent many players in this game who couldnt improve their rotation for example

[tropic ocean]

🤣

[subtle tundra]

every character played as much as you do will stop getting upgrades at some point

[burnt latch]

thats the fun part, i dont really chase gear as that gets u done with the game fairly quickly

[subtle tundra]

then get 1 of them to main raid

start playing those

[tropic ocean]

im trying !!

need ows

[subtle tundra]

hit the gm with the "if i dont start playing this im not gonna show up"

[hollow escarp]

my monk is 246 and never seen the raid

[tropic ocean]

u actually get the gear to start the game first

[vestal wren]

i am unsure about this. Blizz does a bad thing in keeping stuff relevant and did cut a lot of optinal/casual content in sl.
I do agree that most people won't play all content but i don't think its the main issue

[tropic ocean]

and if they fix m+ affixes game would feel a lot better atm

[marble hemlock]

thats the thing though. i dont believe it is a "real problem". its just one of many, and one of the ones that has been talked about for over a decade. but i personally believe that if it was really such a hindrance to the success of the game, then blizzard wouldve put in the time and effort to fix this particular issue. the fact they didnt, makes me believe that its one of those issues that the community believes to be very big, but that the internal numbers just dont confirm to be a major issue that deserves the excessive amounts of time and resources to be fixed (yet)

[burnt latch]

whats wrong with m+ affixes

[tropic ocean]

feels like this week tanks reduced by 90% and cant blame em

[tropic ocean]

they are poorly balanced even with the budget fixes

[subtle tundra]

its only that bad when 2 shit affixes get stacked, such as this week

[burnt latch]

theyre fairly balanced i feel like

[tropic ocean]

they are not

[burnt latch]

i was able to get some rio even this week

not much

[hollow escarp]

both of these affixes force you to kite though

[burnt latch]

but some

[vestal wren]

I think the problem is that blizz does not iterate enough on systems. A lot of systems did work out fairly well but got scrapped once a xpac was over. This is also part of preservation of old content

[tropic ocean]

inspired sanguine necro dog affixes

rest ist okayish

[burnt latch]

well depends on what level u play at

sure u cant do cutting edge keys

but u can do anything else easily this week

[subtle tundra]

my only problem with necrotic is that there are anti-kite mechanics on mobs and then affixes like these make so melee just die randomly for no reason.

[hollow escarp]

even at 20s

[tropic ocean]

affixes that give a challenge = good, affixes that are easy but slow down dungeon = bad

[vestal wren]

blizz has such a good universe and wow could have been the center and scale way beyond what the company approached it to be

[fathom swift]

I don't have the stats to prove it one way or another, but anecdotally it def is. Them not addressing it up until this point doesn't mean it definitely isn't an issue; they've not fixed things that were issues for years in the past, it's not really that much of an indicator for whether it's a problem or not.

[subtle tundra]

i like the "problem solving" affixes, but sometimes they are just very polarizing like inspiring in top

[tropic ocean]

like inspired is 0 challenge either zerg down or cc out

[fathom swift]

there's also a cost to removing faction barriers, some people really care about and identify as one faction

[burnt latch]

thats what i felt like doing keys this week tbh

[marble hemlock]

yeah for sure. but in regards to "just remove factions to make the game better", i honestly believe it to be a very low impact change. removing the region lock and allowing EU to play with NA would do much more for the game than removing faction limitations, imo.

[tropic ocean]

sanguine super bad and slow cuz non controllable mobs

[subtle tundra]

it was ok-ish on tyrannical, but its impossible to do fortified.

[burnt latch]

u can play around it tho

[subtle tundra]

it would be very funny to have TOP inspiring fortified in TGP

[burnt latch]

either by comp choice or strategy

[tropic ocean]

errrr no

[subtle tundra]

what if i play with a group of 5?

[tropic ocean]

comp doesnt matter

when movs c

[subtle tundra]

a.k.a. my friends

[tropic ocean]

@Ausgelebt#6

[vestal wren]

I think they should do 3 changes:
#1 remove fraction restrictions
#2 remove cross realm restrictions
#3 make mythic id system less restrictive

[burnt latch]

comp does matter, a monk or a druid is extremely helpful to deal with sanquine when the pack has mobs that dont move

goliaths, shards etc

[tropic ocean]

no

its not about the control u have

its about non controllable mobs

same for necrotic

[burnt latch]

there arent packs where u cant control multiple mobs

with utility

like typhoon or ring

[subtle tundra]

there are elites you cant move

[vestal wren]

because:
ad 1: people are stuck with a fraction they joined with potentially a way lower player pool
ad 2: people are stuck on bad servers and have not a lot of option unless they spend $ for server transfere
ad 3: finding people for mythic is hard, and its impossible to find somone who wants to join for a evening if they ruin their id

[tropic ocean]

we must be playing a differenr game then

[burnt latch]

yes, usually one per pack

give me an example please

[subtle tundra]

nw multiple mobs

a lot

[burnt latch]

multiple in one pack?

[tropic ocean]

2 vanguard in mid pack

[subtle tundra]

yes

[tropic ocean]

right at dungeon start

[burnt latch]

vanguard can be typhooned

or ringed

[subtle tundra]

ok

[tropic ocean]

no

[subtle tundra]

and if its on cd???

[tropic ocean]

they cant

[burnt latch]

then u didnt play around the affix properly

[subtle tundra]

ok you made 1 mistake

you lost a minute

just like that

[tropic ocean]

vanguard cant be typhooned

lol

[subtle tundra]

1 ability pressed slightly wrong in a single pack and the mob healed to full

[burnt latch]

also they do move

like they dont just stand there and not move

[subtle tundra]

the harvesters

[tropic ocean]

same with goliath in halls

[burnt latch]

they need to be in melee

[subtle tundra]

just cast

[burnt latch]

yeah theyre a bitch to deal with, so u play the harvester

make sure u dont kill mobs on them

[tropic ocean]

if u can handle that all simulatenously in a pack of 15 mobs

[subtle tundra]

very easily said

yea just do that bro

[tropic ocean]

ur the best player in the world

[burnt latch]

exactly, thats the fun of it tho

[tropic ocean]

lol

[burnt latch]

its still doable

[tropic ocean]

ok

[burnt latch]

just not easy

[subtle tundra]

cause i am playing on tournament realm and have infinite tries to master every pack

[burnt latch]

i was literally able to get some small drops of rio this week

[subtle tundra]

on + what

[burnt latch]

so its not impossible

[tropic ocean]

ye at what rio man

[burnt latch]

im sitting on like

2750

or sth like that

not cutting edge

[subtle tundra]

so 24-25s?

[burnt latch]

but still fairly high ish

yeah

[tropic ocean]

and ur group is handling those packs easily

[subtle tundra]

i've tried 2 26s last night

[tropic ocean]

or are u just skipping them

[subtle tundra]

we just straight up wiped on first boss top

bcs of necrotic

[burnt latch]

not easily, this is probably one of the hardest weeks but keys are still timeable

[subtle tundra]

well, why play this

when you can wait a week

and play it so much easier

[tropic ocean]

cuz i played with 2.9 heal and tank and we struggle in nw

[burnt latch]

i actually swapped to kleia outlaw for top specifically for the first boss this week

[subtle tundra]

like 3x easier

[tropic ocean]

first top boss u cant soothe melee boss to reset necrotic

[burnt latch]

cuz im not only looking to get rating, and i could get rating this week too so why not do it

[tropic ocean]

so u kite which is cancer

[burnt latch]

its like saying why not just wait 5 months before getting CE, as there will be nerfs to bosses

[tropic ocean]

cuz its not the same

[subtle tundra]

literally not the same?

you get CE and you look at world ranking when you kill it for the first time, for m+ you have the whole season

[burnt latch]

sry boys im gonna stop

[subtle tundra]

? im an active player

[tropic ocean]

in nw first pull u have small jumpers that give 3 million stacks in 2 seconds the cleave thrower that afaik does whatever casts he wants in whatever order with vanguard u cant control

so naturally u need to either super zerg, have the correct tank or pull smaller/slower while in other weeks u just pull 4 packs bl and zerg

very imbalanced

and im unsure what it has to do with enjoying the game or not enjoying the game to critize such things, theres a reason they already did a lot of affix tuning cuz the m+ active population heavily drops during some weeks, because they are so cancer to play

[limber lion]

so much yellow in the assa chat today

[subtle tundra]

i dont even play outlaw 😦

[marble hemlock]

outlaw so dead the corpses are swimming up on the shores here

[vestal wren]

you forgot to post whispyrs outlaw audio file

[vestal wren]

thanks

[junior rampart]

This made me chuckle 🤭

[sonic schooner]

Regarding sims i guess we want the crit trinket from legion TW ?

[balmy condor]

faulty countermeasures and whetstone are good

auto ring is good too

[brazen zodiac]

good morning 6 am gamers and workers

:)

[warm drift]

Hello, you life in the past

[pseudo hamlet]

Where can I find these sims? I mean the list of items from Legion TW that could be good.

[balmy condor]

droptimizer

[subtle kiln]

!bis

[cobalt hemlock]

do you just stack critical strike in raid even with someone else sims a little bit better?

[balmy condor]

no

[glass tulip]

looks like ya boi is not farming legion TW

[subtle tundra]

free 128 dps?

i'd kill a camel for that

[hollow river]

Idk if there’s any amount of dps I’d farm that shit for

[balmy condor]

u wot

it's 128 dps

[hollow river]

I am interested in trying the dungeons in an m+ setting tho

[subtle tundra]

im planning to do legion m+ anyways

[glass tulip]

I mean I'll grab the one trink but farming all dungeons nosireee

[subtle tundra]

also, my guild wont have me moan about guardian trinket now

[glass tulip]

wants me to replace guardian trinket, I worked so hard for it

[midnight atlas]

there's a possibility not to get the countermeasure trinket during those 2 weeks farmed phial for 3 months

but its huge for rogues

[frigid sleet]

warrior have it at around double the amount we do apparently lol

like +250 dps ish

[midnight atlas]

I think it depends on spec. for my kyrian(kleia) outlaw it's 385 dps, and for sub (mika/theothar) it's just 180 dps

[glass tulip]

good thing I don't play outlaw

[limber lion]

what a nutty trinket

[normal mist]

What does that trinket do really? I can't remember that one

[limber lion]

adds frost damage procs to your attacks

on-use trinket

[normal mist]

Thanks. Eye of command (or wtvr it was called) it gave crit stacks, will it be good or Kara is not available?

[limber lion]

Karazhan is not available.

[dim wasp]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[vestal wren]

just can't get enough from frost

[pseudo hamlet]

same here, but will be farming that dung for the trinket 😄 after all it's ~130 dps gain!

[vestal wren]

these are part of tw:

vault is probably the worse with pugs

[normal mist]

That last boss....

[glass tulip]

never even seen any of them so I am expecting to have an awful time

I hate learning new dungeons

[vestal wren]

you sound scared

[normal mist]

I liked all dungeons from legion

[vestal wren]

tbh its exciting, they are all cool dungeons

[glass tulip]

🤷

[spice spire]

I’ve never ran them, outside of eye, oddly. So I am pretty excited myself

[vestal wren]

also mage tower challenge 👀

[glass tulip]

I am very excited to beat mage tower

I took about 20 pulls on PTR and got to about halfway

was having trouble dodging the spinny ground axes because they seemed to move so randomly

[normal mist]

Meanwhile the only mage tower I want to beat (besides rogue ones again) is the druid one

[gusty mirage]

Grief AF of them to launch it on bolstering week any raid boss seagulls?

[normal mist]

Those seagulls

Jesus. They made the second boss so hard when they were not cleared

[spice spire]

Raid boss seagulls

[echo geyser]

[clever kindle]

wait until peoples groups are wiping on the Vault miniboss

[nocturne geode]

kekw

[strange python]

I think I missed the mage tower part of the actual game...is it difficult (like assuming ilvl 250'ish)? How long would one expect it would take them to clear it (pulls #, time, whatever)?

[glass tulip]

Gear will be normalized so it shouldn't matter what you have, theoretically

[subtle tundra]

you get scaled down

your gear doesnt matter unless you get twink gear

[strange python]

gotcha

[subtle tundra]

with many sockets etc afaik

[strange python]

interesting

[balmy condor]

the hotfix nerf should help a lot

because most of the reason you'd wipe was taking axe damage cause skill issue

[glass tulip]

and it depends on how hard it is, shouldn't take you more than a couple hours if you know how to use the class well

[balmy condor]

but it's really really rough still

[subtle tundra]

the only class i dont know how to play that i need is mistweaver

[balmy condor]

I cleared it in about 2 hours during legion, and I was on ptr this time around and it took me almost 7

[subtle tundra]

cant wait to spend hours learning it

[balmy condor]

like it is

REALLY

fucking hard

[strange python]

7 hours?

[balmy condor]

yes

[strange python]

well that's actually a good thing. I wish the reward was something better lol

i dont even like that transmog

[glass tulip]

no leech this time around, poggers

[balmy condor]

it's easily harder than the legion one on release

[subtle tundra]

do all 7 ez

[strange python]

like getting green fire back in the day, was one of the most rewarding things i've done in wow

[balmy condor]

you're basically required to find leech gear or wear twink socket gear to try and game it

[strange python]

i love challenging solo content

[balmy condor]

at least for like the average joe

[glass tulip]

shard of rev

[balmy condor]

shard doesn't work

[glass tulip]

[strange python]

fortified leech, leeching poison - sound like good ideas.

[balmy condor]

THEOTAR LEECH

[glass tulip]

theotar doesn't work

[balmy condor]

yeah

it's uh

rough

[glass tulip]

its gonna be a long couple of days trying to dodge axes with no pattern

[spice spire]

Skill issue

Unfort

[strange python]

stupid question - is the assassination reward different from the subtlety reward ( i know we're getting off topic, so i appreciate it )

like if i do it as sin - would there be a point to also doing it as sub - i guess is the question

[fickle jolt]

I don't think there's a difference

[glass tulip]

I think they are diff challenges, I don't know if there are diff rewards

[strange python]

gotcha

cool

[glass tulip]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/legion-timewalking-mage-tower-rewards-in-patch-9-1-5-324672

[fickle jolt]

You'd be doing the different specs for meta achieves for the book mount

[strange python]

gosh - literally the only thing i need in-game is an upgrade to my 239 helmet

[balmy condor]

yeh would just be achieve stuff

[glass tulip]

Closing the Eye - frost death knight, havoc demon hunter, survival hunter, subtlety rogue, arms warrior
The God-Queen's Fury - arcange mage, ret paladin, assassination rogue, enhancement shaman, demonology warlock
The Highlord's Return - blood death knight, vengeance demon hunter, guardian druid, brewmaster monk, protection paladin, protection warrior
Thwarting the Twins - balance druid, marksman hunter, frost mage, shadow priest, affliction warlock
An Impossible Foe - unholy death knight, feral druid, fire mage, outlaw rogue, elemental shaman, fury warrior
Feltotem's Fall - beast mastery hunter, windwalker monk, discipline priest, destruction warlock
End of the Risen Threat - restoration druid, holy paladin, holy priest, restoration shaman, Mistweaver Monk

[balmy condor]

happy for you, or sorry that happened

[glass tulip]

?

[strange python]

ahh thanks for that.

[glass tulip]

So getting the mount requires beating all of those

[humble ginkgo]

Is the sin mage tower hard

Heard it was pretty easy back then but idk if they buffed or nerfed

[thorny pond]

Sin was the easiest back in Legion

[humble ginkgo]

Yea

[glass tulip]

#assassination message

[humble ginkgo]

Damn

[thorny pond]

Just start adding all the CCs and spells to your bars you never use

[humble ginkgo]

Whisp prolly just sucks lmao

owned

[glass tulip]

blind focus macro seems to be the only thing I needed to add

[humble ginkgo]

Yea im gonna have to start using ‘crimson vial’

Never heard of that ability

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

yo true

[grand ridge]

Has anyone tried it after the recent tuning patch note

[balmy condor]

considering it's not live and also cannot be tested

I would be very interested to hear if someone did

[grand ridge]

Oh oops

Well hopefully that helps make it a bit easier

[balmy condor]

it should, axes are the main avoidable damage that will wreck runs

[grand ridge]

I wouldn't mind grabbing that now but if it's still super hard I'll just wait to do it with a tier set

[balmy condor]

but tbh the whole thing is tuned way too high

if "we" (talking collectively as the mythic raiders and high io pushes and good pvpers of the community)

cannot smash it day 1

[thorny pond]

It was too in Legion

[balmy condor]

and it's a struggle

[thorny pond]

then we got gear

[gusty mirage]

I thought you’re playing sub next tier why are you in here?

[balmy condor]

then it is way too fucking hard

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

and this time there's no "waiting till next patch" to outgear it like in legion

you're just stuck

[grand ridge]

The set bonus should work in there but dom gems will not

[sonic schooner]

It means you are slow learners and are able to clear mythic only by cheesing mecanics with high end gears or by gathering all the good gear by doing splits and getting golds sent by your fans

That was a big kapp dont attack me D:

[balmy condor]

the set bonus does not work

[grand ridge]

Ah well I hope that nerf helps then

[balmy condor]

all tier bonuses are disabled

[grand ridge]

I should upgrade my garrosh heirloom weapons for the extra gems I bet that'll help

Put some old school enchants on them too

That seems to make a big difference in other time walking content

[strange python]

what gems can we put in that older gear, +16's?

[grand ridge]

It prob scales down so current gems are similar to legion level. But those daggers have two sockets each so if you have them that's a huge benefit

[hollow escarp]

better use old gems

[balmy condor]

I'm not sure it's worth it

[grand ridge]

I think gems are hugely worth in tw

It's only 7k gold and you get 4 sockets

[balmy condor]

they are worth yeh

[grand ridge]

Sockets are pure gold in tw

[balmy condor]

but mage tower isn't time walking

[vestal wren]

convergence seems rly good, so if you want sth for the mage tower challange, might look at that

m+ will be scaled up, so i think you can cheese in it

[grand ridge]

Dang I looted that on my dk in my last NH run.. too bad I didn't do it on my rogue

[junior rampart]

Won't the legion dung gear drop in m+ become redundant once 9.2 release? 9.2 might release in February right?

[balmy condor]

Correct

And then legion m+ will come back in like may

And we’ll farm the trinket again

:D

[spice spire]

[slow marsh]

New phial except on time walking

[hollow escarp]

at least you only have to farm it for 2 weeks every 6 months

[fervent rune]

The trinket with +crit right?

[balmy condor]

Faulty countermeasure

Crit stat

On use auto damage

[fervent rune]

That’s what I thought. Ty

Sucks starting in bfa. I don’t know any of the legion dungeons lol

[junior rampart]

It drops in VoW right?

[balmy condor]

Yes

You can droptimizer sim all of this btw

[next solar]

LEETS GOO

[subtle tundra]

mythic i hope

[glass tulip]

any difficulty is still hype

I havent seen one in 18 weeks 🥲

[next solar]

it is

[thorny pond]

Yeee!

[subtle tundra]

im not even bothering for hc on assa

[manic pebble]

how do you beat the mage tower as sin rogue

[nocturne geode]

22 blackrook hold

lol guess they give keys out based on your m_ keys

lol

[glass tulip]

Wondering if crippling poison would work in mage tower so that Jarl cant chase you down

I got a 20 neltharion's I just dropped to a 15, not trying to first time dungeons on a 20 🤣

[hollow river]

TW is already up?

[arctic hare]

Apparently yeag

Yeah*

[hollow river]

Usually servers aren’t even back up yet lol

[arctic hare]

My friends got into their vault so

[glass tulip]

welp, mage tower is still feeling just as beefy as ptr

[arctic hare]

Thats nice

I think we can stun the people who cast and try to obliterate us

[manic pebble]

is it really possible to beat Mage tower as rogue tho

400k hp bosses and I'm sitting here with 6k hp

[nocturne geode]

yea its possible

[manic pebble]

any clues?

[nocturne geode]

id recommend looking up some guides

[arctic hare]

You can apparently stun one of them with blind

Then handle the others? Idk

[nocturne geode]

there lots of little tricks

[glass tulip]

I don't understand, I get hit by 0 axes and still lose all my health in the first 30 seconds :)

[nocturne geode]

it was hard back then to

not going to be a pushover

[glass tulip]

kidney jarl when he empowers, blind the sigryn cast, kick shadowbolts, dodge valkyrie, run over the purple circles, heal with golden orbs

that's basically it to my knowledge

I just get fuckin trucked

[humble ginkgo]

ur triggered #lmao

[gusty mirage]

am I?

[arctic hare]

lol

[sonic schooner]

About the ocular gland, trinket from the Eye, does sims always assume that you re above half hp? 🙄

[glass tulip]

It does a certain percentage, not sure the amount, but there is consistently 90%+ uptime and usually higher

[sonic schooner]

Thx

[balmy condor]

There’s setting alongside the food buffs and stuff you can change

95% is usually good

I leave it at 100% personally

[sonic schooner]

OKayyy, didnt watch the settings

Kinda looking to minmax before sylv if i can get some upgrades i ll take it

[balmy condor]

It had a 97% uptime on my sylv kill

[glass tulip]

literally not getting out of the first 30 seconds of mage tower sigh

back to shadowlands it is

[sonic schooner]

Intresting, ty whispi

UwU

[humble ginkgo]

[gusty mirage]

Pretty sure pinging someone to insult them is considered harassment chief

🙂

[humble ginkgo]

aaaaaaaaaand ur triggered

wheres the insult

[muted ridge]

yo guys, idk if it has been discussed or not. Is this thing oversimming ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pC9BY48W5yp9eeXuH8H6dY

[humble ginkgo]

its not

[gusty mirage]

no

it's just a good trinket

[humble ginkgo]

that shit goated

[thin trout]

Yoyo cant find in the pins, but is there anything good from legion mythic plus for us ? Like the court of stars ring or did they nerf it

[muted ridge]

:monakS:

holy fuck

[humble ginkgo]

#wow-general pins @thin trout

[muted ridge]

Oh today pinned. cheers

[thin trout]

Ty

[pearl basin]

how different was rogue in legion? Design wise for mage tower

[viscid spear]

I'm glad I have two of the best trinkets recommended for MT

[nocturne geode]

it was still hard back then till you severely overgeared it

took practice

not everyone that did it won

@pearl basin

[pearl basin]

yeah thats cool, moreso wondering if our tools were relatively the same

[nocturne geode]

still the same i think

[balmy condor]

The same but everything is nerfed

[dapper yew]

maybe a stupid question, but is there anything we should be targeting in the Legion Keystone Dungeons

[low girder]

For the other specs maybe, sin's was infamously easy even on release. Will be curious if it's the same.

[nocturne geode]

that was before they adjusted it later

so sure your mostly right

[viscid spear]

What's Blind's CD reduced to again?

[strange python]

CoS ring not updated yet? Or just bad?

[gusty mirage]

Not working yet on raidbots

[strange python]

Rip

[quaint carbon]

!def

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Defensives usability: http://tiny.cc/q602uz

[glass tulip]

If it's infamously easy I should uninstall rn

Literally everyone is standing at the front door complaining about how hard it is except for 1 warrior I saw lol

[nocturne geode]

it was infamously easy for a shorter time than it wasnt

it got adjusted fairly quick for back then i believe

[alpine latch]

Sounds about right, yeah. Most of being a rogue in there is about using your entire kit.

Although we lost bandages... so IDK how that's going to impact us

Because blind/bandage was a thing back in Legion

[slow marsh]

@gusty mirage gib vault blessing

[glass tulip]

There are definitely no openings to bandage even if you were able to use them

The three apes punching you in the face all the time

[lean coral]

was the blind debuff a thing during legion?

[pallid bough]

@balmy condor what % hp does the sin fight end?

[edgy orbit]

i think its 20%

[clever kindle]

back then a lot of people used hp regen food I think, stam flasks, etc. Even build changes specifically for mage tower

[edgy orbit]

I read hard stack leech

[clever kindle]

Might be worth to go leeching poison or elusiveness

[edgy orbit]

yeah, I read leech poison, get the leech cloak enchant, and whatever gear you have with leech.

I'm going to to try it out after my class

[clever kindle]

if I remember correctly all of your CCs work so make sure to use them liberally

[gusty mirage]

bruh I got the sylv belt

I'm actually mad

[edgy orbit]

Does SL gear get down graded to ilvl50 or 60 ?

[slow marsh]

i got terragrue bracers but with speed

[glass tulip]

you go down to about 6-7k hp

[slow marsh]

holy shit vault of the wardens is toxic

[pallid bough]

what is the enrage timer?

[gusty mirage]

ye first boss is rough

[slow marsh]

those flames come out way too quick

[strange python]

Last boss is tough but idk what I'm doing

[wide ridge]

how are yall doing on mage tower? im getting shat on

about like 40% of runeseer's hp he starts casting shield non stop

i guess im soft locked

[slow marsh]

I got into a rando group they're doing it on 17

this is stupid

[celest ruin]

damn a 246 vault trinket beats 252 amplifier by a lot

[strange python]

Yeah about 2-3%

Ayy we got a faulty

[spice spire]

[strange python]

With speed

[spice spire]

AYO?

[pallid bough]

I finished the sin one

holy shit

lmao

also Satchel op

Satchel and CoF

[spice spire]

I could see satchel being GIGA busted actually

[pallid bough]

pretty solid

Is there a way to check how many vendetta's I used?

oh nvm found it

5 cast

[spice spire]

[pallid bough]

Convergence is nuts

Look at that Satchel

[buoyant mauve]

curious to see if it get's tuned with m+ taz coming

[slow marsh]

na

It has mastery on it

[hollow river]

Ew

[slow marsh]

it'll be really good for a lot of specs but yeah mastery and no main stat is rough

it's the same stuff that we had to say when people were stacking it for rwf

just cuz it does a lot of dam doesn't mean it's necessarily better. just gotta sim it when it comes out

[spice spire]

It does a shit ton of damage passively tho. It’s not that it was bad, it’s just at 246+ there were better trinkets than one capped at 233

I think it could be a heater next tier ngl

[slow marsh]

yeah the thing is people seemed to forget how much agi increases your overall dam cuz they were too stuck on the proc damage

it will be for sure and i'm glad we'll have something to compete with the other trinks we've farmed for 2 patches in a row

[hollow river]

@spice spire @slow marsh

[slow marsh]

Who knows maybe if we do end up going crit mastery it could be bis

[hollow river]

Gm

[slow marsh]

gm

[spice spire]

GM king

[hollow river]

Middle of next week I start 2 week vacation

Pumped 😈

[slow marsh]

pog

[spice spire]

but also since it scales down satchel might be fire

Idk man I just work here

[slow marsh]

I agree it could be

[spice spire]

Also jealous mr. no trickz

Always on the grustle am I

[balmy condor]

Satchel is insane

[spice spire]

Whíspyr

[pallid bough]

Ya

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Do you sleep brother

[pallid bough]

Whispyr Satchel and CoF is the move

100%

[balmy condor]

I just woke up?

[spice spire]

Bro

You were awake 3 hours ago?!

[slow marsh]

he's a light sleeper

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Mf taking a nap and calling it sleep

It’s me I’m mfers

[balmy condor]

Grustle don’t stop?

[spice spire]

True

[timid cloud]

Same, I slept for like 2h

Barely finished last shaping fate at reset.

Also, I didn't bless my brothers, both Rogues got bad loot.

[spice spire]

[wide ridge]

did we really have to lose durability on mage tower

[spice spire]

Just one tap it and you won’t

[wide ridge]

ok brb

[bleak sky]

GOOD MORNING KINGS

IT HAPPENED

IT EXISTS

[spice spire]

Bless up Mr. Minalba

[bleak sky]

now she drops the 2nd one guaranteed right

[kind talon]

Yes

[quasi grotto]

tried and tested that. still no luck

praying for my vault in the morning

[strange python]

Any sense of when CoS ring will be updated in Sims?

[violet jackal]

CONGRATS

[bleak sky]

Is it the theorycraft people that have to implement it or is it the raidbot people?

[spice spire]

Unsure tbh

On both of them

[bleak sky]

tier sets is theorycraft people, right?

[spice spire]

Well it’s a bit of both

So they have to be tested first - then implemented in. Problem is, if a TC knows change is about to happen, or thinks it will be what’s the point in running the sim?

It’s good to have early data, sure, but it could lead to a ton of unnecessary extra work

[kind talon]

i think it is

already updated

u can run droptimizer

[strange python]

I think the AA part isn't in Sims

[strange python]

No way it's simming 10 DPS lower than Painsmith ring with the effect included

I'm aware

But it's been me ruined a few times that the effect isn't in Sims

Mentioned*

[kind talon]

hm

yeah actually

that makes sense

hm

[balmy condor]

The effect is not in sims

And that’s on whoever does items

For sims

Raidbots is just an interface for the most part

[viral locust]

So AA ring is not actual doo doo?

Ash'golm trinket looking pretty heat (even though its frost dmg )

[balmy condor]

It’s not omega but it’s worth it

[worn panther]

It's just +10s duration Amp, so it's better xD

[vestal wren]

the trinket from vault seems to be rly good for some

[viral locust]

I don't have a mythic gaurdian trinket so I'm sure that's why it's so good for me?

[balmy condor]

It’s better than that

[slow marsh]

countermeasure is actual bis trink for a lot of specs

[viral locust]

pog

[slow marsh]

i think

[kind talon]

i think all melee

idk about 2h users

[viral locust]

CM doesn't look like it sims too well for me

[slow marsh]

wars seem to want it

[viral locust]

but ill grab one anyway lol

[limber lion]

I don't buy it

you don't have a mythic guardian trinket

and you're saying that cm doesn't sim well

even though it's heaps better than amp

[hollow river]

I don’t want to farm even more shit

Guess we grinding these two weeks

[viral locust]

https://i.imgur.com/FUBgcMR.png

[strange python]

Wrong trinket.

[slow marsh]

kekw

[viral locust]

OH

[strange python]

Faulty countermeasures

[slow marsh]

faulty countermeasure

[viral locust]

IM AUTISTIC

[nocturne geode]

thats not the right trink

[viral locust]

LOL

[nocturne geode]

LOL

[strange python]

I got faulty with speed on it :D

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/sxv-wtf-gif-23560064

[hollow river]

Are you playing

[viral locust]

https://tenor.com/yruy.gif

[edgy orbit]

anyone beat the mage tower yet?

[simple stratus]

i did with feint pants

[viral locust]

Yes Countermeasure is yuge for me, sorry Im autistic lmao

[simple stratus]

in a time long ago

[kind talon]

yeah its bis for everything

[strange python]

Brewmaster too

It seems meh for hunters at least

[kind talon]

its melee bro

unless the tooltip is fried

[strange python]

That would be why!

[kind talon]

well that means hunters dont have to farm this shitty dungeon

Sadge

[wide ridge]

I finally did it

[slow marsh]

this dungeon shouldn't exist on tyran

[clever kindle]

all 3 survival hunters will be in there for sure

[slow marsh]

please lord gib trink so i dont have to do this anymore

[golden basalt]

will SL drums work for me in magetower?

or do I actually need to buy level 40 drums

[kind talon]

how many times have u done it

[slow marsh]

2 kekw

a 17 and a 15

[kind talon]

how terrible is it

[slow marsh]

its so bad

[kind talon]

thats what i expected

[slow marsh]

i'm about to just try to get into 2's

[kind talon]

lol

[marble hemlock]

wdym?

[normal mist]

I will have to rewatch the bad tower guides again D:

[marble hemlock]

woops

wrong quote

[marble hemlock]

wdym

what dungeon?

[kind talon]

vault

[marble hemlock]

vault?

hahaha

[kind talon]

yes

[nocturne geode]

its easy wym

[marble hemlock]

1st boss vault tyrannical

[slow marsh]

so easy

[kind talon]

vault just sucks

[slow marsh]

just takes an hour for a 15 nbd

[nocturne geode]

prb bc half the people your doing it with dont know how to do it

[slow marsh]

that and too many things are just stupid

[marble hemlock]

nothing stupid about vault

honestly

[nocturne geode]

^

[marble hemlock]

one of the best dungeons

last boss aint fun with people who dont know what to do tho

[wide ridge]

worked for me

[slow marsh]

idk it doesn't seem like it's tuned for this

[golden basalt]

sick

thanks

[wide ridge]

np

I just did it with 1-2-1-1-3-2-3 talents, crimson is crazy on that fight

my top dmg

[kind talon]

we need %

[void carbon]

How the heck are people able to do the mage tower as sin rogue its impossiable

[slow marsh]

git gud

[normal mist]

Only available tomorrow for eu right?

[void carbon]

im trying but I guess I suck

[nocturne geode]

i almost got it took a break died really close lol

[slow marsh]

i actually haven't attempted it yet

[spice spire]

CC nonstop and outskill it.

[marble hemlock]

you got almost all percentage at the start

[spice spire]

It’s very difficult

[marble hemlock]

since you omegaskipped at the end

[wide ridge]

put all the gear with leech you have (i had 14% with talents) and go leeching poison and crimson

cleave all 3 of them at all times

dot them all

use a blind macro for sig and poisoned knife for jarl

kite him whenever he enrages and blind her whenever she does the blood thing

[spice spire]

PK

[golden basalt]

prob just gonna do it as outlaw, the pirate boys seems to be knocking agatha over one after one

[wide ridge]

also master poisoner for stronger crippling poison

[spice spire]

This is some dark tech

[wide ridge]

the fight ends before she dies btw, i think at 20% maybe?

[spice spire]

Ye

[wide ridge]

something around that

[fading wigeon]

anyone have a list of items we need to target legion keys?

[slow marsh]

countermeasure

[alpine latch]

Only thing I need is Faulty Countermeasure

[slow marsh]

aa ring

[alpine latch]

Everything else is a DPS loss

Including the AA ring

[gusty mirage]

Ring’s not properly implemented yet in raidbots

Sooooo

Enjoy court of stars

[alpine latch]

Y u do dis to me?

[fading wigeon]

court of stars is fun

just for dungeon sake

[gusty mirage]

Because I want to share suffering comrade

[fading wigeon]

handy to remember in case you forgot

[strange python]

What is the advantage to running a timewalking mythic+ on say 20 versus a 15?

[sharp zodiac]

There isn’t

[nocturne geode]

nothing really

[strange python]

thx

[normal slate]

are the mage tower abilities timed based or % [getting to round 30-35%] abilities just cast non-stop it seemed, at least the shield

[sharp zodiac]

Depends on fight

[normal slate]

well the sin one, wasnt sure if i am just dps'in too [enrage] slow or it just speeds up at certain percent

[sharp zodiac]

Fight ends at 20%

Probably too slow. Lots of people are having trouble with the check rn

[void carbon]

I make only 40 sec in the fight and dye

[sharp zodiac]

In fact I’d say most

[sharp zodiac]

Main target is the shadow bolt guy. Not the big boss

Read @balmy condor great guide on wowhead

Helps a lot

[balmy condor]

once you get farther in the fight, the shield and valkerie come out much faster while the other ones don't cast really

[void carbon]

ok thank you im about lose my shit over this game

it just seem so unbalanced

[simple gyro]

I'd like to know why it has an enrage timer now

[void carbon]

should i farm leagion gear to make easier

[balmy condor]

if it makes you feel better, I'm struggling too

[void carbon]

Im at 43 attempts only make it to 40 sec and then die

[subtle tundra]

if it makes you feel better, ill probably struggle too tomorrow

[sharp zodiac]

No it just all scales anyways

It’s just tuned very tightly right now

[balmy condor]

40 seconds should definitely be doable

[sharp zodiac]

There’s lots of guys in here that are VERY good Rogue players having a tough time

[normal slate]

thanks @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

I think my first attempt today was like 2 min in

so my guess is probably that you're missing a mechanic

[normal slate]

i just switch to Master Poisoner and def feels a bit more in control too

[void carbon]

Ill rewatch the video and read your guide

[balmy condor]

yeh I think MP might just be better

[subtle tundra]

i got IQD with leech can it be the play?

[balmy condor]

any piece with leech should be basically insta equip imo

[void carbon]

how long is this fight in the mage tower

[gusty mirage]

However long it takes you to get the middle dude to 20% iirc

Its super unforgiving damage if you mess up

[warped rock]

is it normal to get unholy instead of frost when simming in top gear?

[gusty mirage]

Depends on the ranks and your gear

Like if both are r5 something is seriously wrong

[warped rock]

both sets maxed, ~40% crit

unholy ahead by ~0.5%

[gusty mirage]

Yeah that’s different

I’m assuming this is with dashing?

[balmy condor]

link the sim

[warped rock]

here's one with obedience: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e8Tb4aZoZXS8E7JyfJs5EA
here's one with dashing: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i1H8Sm78PeiURkhbPwLShz

[spice spire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qa3A7fSs1fHUUfdXqfnbrn

Just did a bare basic one

And frost is an upgrade at t5

By 300 or so

[warped rock]

thanks! guess my settings are messed up somehow?

[spice spire]

Yeah, when running sims it’s best to keep it simple, so I just did t5 vs t5

[strange python]

Napkin math suggests ring would be ~.4% upgrade

[spice spire]

And pop, it works

You had your levels + the max

Assuming that fucked with it

[balmy condor]

fuck I almost had it

son of a bitch

[normal slate]

lol

[balmy condor]

something is very very weird though

the spell queueing thing is happening like every other pull

[normal slate]

im trying to stack them all a lot more in the beginning for CT dmg

[marble hemlock]

why arent you streaming it whispyr

[balmy condor]

yeah okay I'll toss it up

[marble hemlock]

afraid to embarrass yourself?

[balmy condor]

there seli

happy?

[marble hemlock]

yes

[grand ridge]

Is the boss a demon btw

I wonder if that heirloom trinket that is more effective against demons would help

[quasi ledge]

Nah humanoid

[celest sail]

im close, but christ does the damage randomly get out of hand sometimes

also the healing orbs definitely despawn

[thorn fjord]

So is this mage tower hard or am i bad? LOL

[celest sail]

why not both

but jk muti one is hard imo

the other classes with this challenge are like... ret paladin, enhance shaman, demo lock

so clearly designed with more sustain in mind lol

[thorn fjord]

do we only get one encounter or is it like legion actually was?

[celest sail]

each spec has its own

[thorn fjord]

because i remember the sin one being the platform during legion

or i might just be crazy

[celest sail]

think you might be crazy

[thorn fjord]

yeah i had it backwards

Sub one is def easier

[celest sail]

feel bad for arcane mages too

not sure how arcane is supposed to do this one lol

[warped rock]

I think it may be the fight length that's causing this.
5 mins: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qa3A7fSs1fHUUfdXqfnbrn
7 mins: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8MEcDxYQpVxpz1QME44Kse
10 mins: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uqv2i9VzrZF1on5Y9fjzuK
Is this normal/expected?

[celest sail]

your frost set is replacing your red gem in boots

longer fights will favor the red gem

[oak sky]

@gusty mirage we made it

[celest sail]

since more time is spent below your hp%

[celest sail]

so basically, you're simming red gem + time vs your frost set lol

[warped rock]

ok, I think i get it. thank you

[spice spire]

Running now

[gusty mirage]

I got the belt

[spice spire]

I’m guessing kyo is right; however, there’s no spot where you have a ten minute pw fight. Even sylv has a lot of in between time, and the damage is mainly focused on p3 anyway

[celest sail]

ye, even 5m patchwork is pretty generous

[warped rock]

I also tried running just the frost set and the one blood and even then, the dps still goes down over time.
6 mins: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sb81Wis5Z4yeGabWfUDwjF
10 mins: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u7DANgfwVurjdTqjmZDSqW
But you're right; 10 mins isn't realistic. Just bugs me that I can't figure out why frost dps goes down as the fight time increases.

[celest sail]

though that's my default raid sim

[warped rock]

maybe something to do with increased damage during first 20s?

[celest sail]

my guess is that it has to do with timings

yea

the proc lining up with cds, the absorption building up faster during lust, etc.

[obtuse robin]

cd's do not affect frost

other then crit

[celest sail]

oh, ma doesnt give the proc extra crit?

ah

ive been lining those up, so i woulda been kinda sad if not lol

in any case, vendetta/lust WILL make your proc hit harder unless you're capping the absorb every proc

just by virtue of more energy for more abilities

and i guess vendetta boosting your damage will also fill up the absorb faster outside of abilities that are already hitting the per-hit absorb cap

[oak sky]

the dagger is coming soon

[limber dagger]

where can i check ST and AoE openers for venthyr assa?

[sharp zodiac]

Token of merit gang

[oak sky]

i got token on my monk

:/

[humble ginkgo]

what are

mage tower talents

would we go iron wire

and leeching poision

[sharp zodiac]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/assassination-rogue-mage-tower-dps-challenge-sigryn

[celest sail]

fuck 5%

[misty holly]

Ugh I'm hitting the "enrage"

[celest sail]

isnt that just part of the fight lol

[misty holly]

Don't remember that ever happening in Legion.

Just avoid enough mechanics and you would finish

[celest sail]

at the end they're all doing their shit at the same time for me

[misty holly]

Yeah, I got the guy to do the shield thing 3 times in a row, and the big guy did the rage 3 times in a row, and I was like well guess my dps isnt enough

that sounds like an enrage mechanic to me

[edgy orbit]

I can't get under 60%

[celest sail]

im doing way less dps than whispyr on stream, at least

but im getting sub 10% with 800-900dps

[bleak sky]

HUGE POGU

[balmy condor]

guide writer isn't washed

[drifting cloud]

[oak sky]

ill go do it later

[obtuse robin]

[last imp]

i tried it earlier and i didn’t even get to 10% so i am just not geared enough for mage tower this time

[winged kindle]

Just takes practice

MP is the play for sure

[celest sail]

the gear is normalized

[spice spire]

Pull count

[balmy condor]

uh

10 or 11?

half of those were just rusty, reading chat, or moments tbh

I only really had maybe 3 pulls where I was like "well, I got caught off guard" and not "oh I wasn't paying attention lmao"

[obtuse robin]

also sub main playing sin

[last imp]

oh so maybe i’m just bad lol

[spice spire]

Whíspyr also had a set for it

Not an optimized set but it helped

[celest sail]

probably makes up at least some of the dps difference between us

im also shit at muti aoe since i only play muti on 1 or 2 target fights lol

side note, decanter is a meme, hasnt healed me once in a 6m pull and a 5m pull lol

just went back to normal trinkets

[edgy orbit]

yeah, i was not seeing decanter heal at all on details

[celest sail]

wonder how much iqd heals for as an oshit button

[jaunty steeple]

IQD is almost a Lay on Hands in regular SL stuff at least

someone's cube once healed me for like 45k or so when we were wiping

[primal egret]

dude im doing mage tower and the bosses just enraged and murdered me @ like 15%????

is there an enrage timer what the fuck

or did i fuck something up

[dawn ivy]

BRING OUT THE HOOKERS BOYS WE GOT A SECOND DAGGER

rogue is done done for the tier idgaf about tw cheese

[bleak sky]

weird message but gratz

[strange python]

Whispyr community council?

[alpine latch]

Debatable ❤️

[misty holly]

Hmm, I just watched an old guide, and it said that after 50% health 2 of the abilities stop happening and you only get shield and valkyrie

I did not notice that today.

[balmy condor]

yeh

it's fucked

[misty holly]

all abilities were happening

[balmy condor]

yeh

need to update guide

cause uh

yeh

[misty holly]

That's kind of messed =/

[celest sail]

also there's definitely a hard enrage at 6:30 i think

[misty holly]

Yeah I was hitting that I think with all 3 abilities happening at once over and over

[celest sail]

jarl literally got an enrage buff (not the one he gets from sigryn)

and just two shot me

[balmy condor]

aight

guide updated

[wild beacon]

never have I felt worse as a player

[main solar]

I tried an attempt using the jarl Kidney shot macro on the guide, it didn't work at all.

[celest sail]

the macro doesnt have his full name, so i dont think it works idk

i set him as focus and have macros for focus

[main solar]

I have sig as focus for blind. Its not a big deal, just wanted to point out it doesnt work for others who try to use it.

[balmy condor]

Oh

Unlucky

I’m not home atm

But if someone wants to dm me the working macro

I’ll get that fixed ASAP

[hollow river]

Is the sin tower difficult?

I see a lot of people saying the other 2 are hard af

[celest sail]

it seems to be made for classes with sustain, so yea

[hollow river]

Hmm

I was hoping I could get it done before raid

[balmy condor]

It took me about an hour and a half

With chat distracting me

[celest sail]

im just pure shiet at dodging throwing axes, feels like they're homing lol

[balmy condor]

@spice spire

[celest sail]

keep getting it to 5%

[spice spire]

?????

[balmy condor]

I opened up a spec channel and you were just sitting there soaking up the sun

So I had to do it to em

[spice spire]

[slim pebble]

What cov are we running for mage tower ?

[celest sail]

disabled

[slim pebble]

You right

[balmy condor]

[hollow river]

[celest sail]

ngl this would be easy with necro lol

[balmy condor]

It would be easier with anything

[slim pebble]

I’ve also never done a mage tower

[obtuse robin]

@balmy condor let us know when you get yours

[balmy condor]

[brazen zodiac]

Hi black

Whisypr:D

[obtuse robin]

hey

[balmy condor]

Hello

[slow marsh]

Hi