assassination

[sinful cradle]

Get good powers

[limber lion]

Not even r1 on every boss

[brazen zodiac]

Dam.exe not found ;/

[sinful cradle]

Snipe the damage buffs

[solar stump]

also Gam? 😂

[spice spire]

literally hold your raid hostage

[limber lion]

oops typorino

[spice spire]

until you get the ideal lineup

[brazen zodiac]

Lmfao

[spice spire]

if it's all of raid time

damn

sucks

they also get all s*mp powers

30k wombo combo extraordinary log

[hollow river]

@gusty mirage

How about we both make kyrian druids and we can switch and buff each other

[gusty mirage]

I'm not server transferring again

sorry homie

[hollow river]

Why would you have to?

[spice spire]

Haha @gusty mirage what if we met with affinity in SoD

[gusty mirage]

last person who said "we could game together" brought me to 1 troll key and then did everything in his power to grief my 19 top

[spice spire]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire

[limber lion]

Lumbering Form
Huddled Carvings
Elethium Weights
Potent Acid Gland
Kindred Affinity

[spice spire]

Hard carried that top, HELLO?!

[hollow river]

Why would you have to xfer???

[limber lion]

moist.

[gusty mirage]

got everything except gland last time I did heroic tarragrue

[spice spire]

tell the team what their powers are coach

[slow marsh]

you forgot the PI

[spice spire]

hit em with the huddled

[limber lion]

[violet jackal]

what about the 99crit recduce threat surely that is huge

[spice spire]

give em the haste orbs

[gusty mirage]

[wild lantern]

it's me, druid simp bear

[limber lion]

pi is so 2020

[spice spire]

@wild lantern can you change your name here to druid simp bear

ty

[gusty mirage]

wait

[hollow river]

The one that makes you use less energy is pretty stonks

[limber lion]

if you wanted you could list PI, Kyrian Hunter buff, Necro Warr buff and NF priest buff

[gusty mirage]

jez you were a bear for that 21 top?

[spice spire]

it's literally the only time you get pinged

[gusty mirage]

and I didn't get kindred???

??????????????

HELLO?

[limber lion]

but that's the weak stuff

[wild lantern]

better?

[limber lion]

we only like the good stuff

[gusty mirage]

@wild lantern ANSWER ME

[spice spire]

there you go

[wild lantern]

what???

[spice spire]

perfect explanation

[gusty mirage]

that 21 top

[wild lantern]

OH

[gusty mirage]

you didn't tether with me?

[wild lantern]

KEK

I LINKED WHISPYR

[gusty mirage]

wow dude

[wild lantern]

[gusty mirage]

WHAT THE FUCK

[spice spire]

LMFAO

the name

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

yeah tether the sub rogue over the sin rogue

real fucking nice jez

[balmy condor]

[hollow river]

That’s toxic

[wild lantern]

[balmy condor]

My tank

[spice spire]

you clearly didn't dm her @gusty mirage

sorry king

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

IT WAS MY KEY

[limber lion]

nice frost set mr. m+

[gusty mirage]

?????

[spice spire]

instructions very clear

[wild lantern]

oxi he wouldn't bring me to things if I don't link him

[slow marsh]

get rekt oxi

that's why you only got silver and not gold in that little key thing

[gusty mirage]

we could've easily not brought him

[spice spire]

also oxi, don't you run sub only in m+

[solar stump]

I got Huddled, tremorbeast, ever beating and someth else 😂

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

you tr yin to get me filtered huh

[spice spire]

LMFAO

[gusty mirage]

don't think I can't call you the words i want to call you in the sink

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

just dm me ur insults, i'm used to it

[limber lion]

This is what I was rocking with for my r1

[balmy condor]

That’s actually not true I’ve told you to not link me, and you keep telling me that you link me for your defense

[wild lantern]

semantics

[gusty mirage]

Jez fucking hates me confirmed

wow dude

[wild lantern]

oxi that's a lie

I love you bb

[spice spire]

OKAY SO NOW YOU'RE USING WHISPYR

[gusty mirage]

and I brought you the joy of fluffy cat daily

[spice spire]

THAT'S RUDE

[wild lantern]

[gusty mirage]

[solar stump]

giga jealous

[solar stump]

i got a rank 3 using Crimson Tempest cos i forgot to change pepeHands

[drifting cloud]

he took the winds for extra global in ma window

[wild lantern]

no but like actually, the reason I default to whispyr is the more damage that gets pumped out during my link the bigger the shield

[gusty mirage]

okay I guess I'm chopped liver

[wild lantern]

and tbh, that was the first group I've been in where his damage didn't auto-dumpster everyone eslse

[gusty mirage]

got it

[hollow river]

[wild lantern]

OXI LET ME EXPLAIN

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

Just do more dam oxi

[wild lantern]

I HADN'T GROUPED WITH YOU IN A DUNGEON BEFORE

[limber lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758203941053530122/902682016313671780/IMG_2001.png

[wild lantern]

I DIDN'T KNOW

IT WAS MUSCLE MEMORY

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

its okay I know I'm a shitter

[wild lantern]

you are not

[balmy condor]

I should make a clickable weakaura for your link, but force it to only ever link to me when you click it

[gusty mirage]

just have it auto send you the gold she sends you every week

[limber lion]

Chat is buzzing, love to see it

[gusty mirage]

one less step for her

[wild lantern]

I rarely send him gold

it's usually mats or pots

[hollow river]

Indeed

[wild lantern]

or, in rare instances, it was guild bank funds for crafting flips

[hollow river]

Been so long it feels like

[ebon notch]

ah yes finally someone on my wavelength

where has this chad been hiding

[gusty mirage]

damn

you tryin to get me filtered too

gotta go

[ebon notch]

xoxo

[hollow river]

No

Plz

[ebon notch]

that time i stepped on a healer with veil? he was pissing me off and i had to get closer to the boss

tactical decisionmaking

when the raid leader asked me to snap chain but i didnt because i was in vendetta?

TACTICAL DECISIONMAKING

when i got bomb on remnant and didnt move to the edge because i have shadowstep and had to hit boss?

you guessed it

[oak sky]

So true

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

ask for a different chain assignment silly

[hollow river]

lmao

my chain on prog overlapped CDs

[oak sky]

uhhhhh

👍

[hollow river]

who

[ebon notch]

ask to swap

[hollow river]

im on sylv now

[ebon notch]

did i stutter?

@oak sky whats this guy smoking

lmao

[hollow river]

OK

I WILL T ELL THEM TONIGHT

[ebon notch]

fuckin finally

[hollow river]

"give me different chain on soulrender when we reclear 7 months from now"

[hollow river]

you don't wanna know

[oak sky]

[simple rivet]

!pi

where can i find that PI target sheet

[balmy condor]

Pinned in #wow-general

[simple rivet]

thanks

[timid cloud]

What's the move for Obedience with MFD in the rotation? Do I keep sending it until it lines up?

[oak sky]

wdym

like mfd on cd then use it with flag?

because thats what you

do

you hold mfd up to 15s for flag

[timid cloud]

Sorry, that was kinda vague, I meant like...with Flag, for Sub, you hold it up to 10s to line it up with CD's, but for Sin, you don't exactly get that, so do I keep hitting Flag on CD until it lines up with Vendetta, just send it, or do I need to line this up at all?

[oak sky]

doesnt matter

hes just talking about syncing flag and vendetta

[hollow river]

Nvm misread

[oak sky]

right?

[hollow river]

Your first and 3rd flag should line up with vendetta no?

[strange python]

Is assassination better than Sub in shadowlands?

[oak sky]

it can be like 5-10s off though

[oak sky]

about even in raid worse in dungeons

but still totally viable in dungeons

[oak sky]

i think you would sync unless you lose a cast

[strange python]

I’m undergeared. Keep dying to just generic mobs out in bastion and I’m not liking rogue so far

[oak sky]

both are very strong at 60

world content gets trivial pretty fast you just have to push through

[strange python]

I hope you’re right!

[solar stump]

if you're shit at sub then it can be better :3

[strange python]

What’s a good rotation guide? Icy veins easy mode?

[oak sky]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[strange python]

What else do you have? !workout plans?

!get skinny fast diet

[solar stump]

there's a lot of things in the pinned messages that you might find useful 🙂

[static rock]

Is there a resource that gives like a clear opener as assa?

ive been doing ambush->snd->garrote->shiv->vendetta->flag->envenom

[oak sky]

wowhead guide

[static rock]

that's with vigor

[oak sky]

wowhead guide has the opener down at the bottom of the rotation page

[static rock]

okay thanks!

why does it say mutilate? do we not open with ambush?

[drifting cloud]

!mut

[prisma monolith]

Ambush is currently only used from blindside/sepsis proc, not from stealth.
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3).
Some other factors to consider are increased poison applications, blindside, and doomblade. This is true for all talent combinations and legendaries.

[static rock]

thank you very much!

[static rock]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Herodamage: https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[static rock]

is nadija dd generally the best?

[thick sail]

Quick inquiry: does anyone know if Dashing Scoundrel interacts with Poison Bomb, since it's a poison?

Further inquiry: do any of the poison based trinkets interact with Dashing Scoundrel?

I tried to Google the answer to these questions but couldn't find any answers.

[balmy condor]

yes, no

[thick sail]

I guess specifically I'm asking:

Can Poison Bomb ticks crit, and if so, is the chance increased by Dashing's Envenom effect?

Furthermore, can poison trinkets crit, and if so, is the chance increased by Dashing's EV effect?

[balmy condor]

trinket have 0 interaction with anything

[thick sail]

Oh. Balls

[balmy condor]

poison bomb will also give energy

[thick sail]

Oh, that's kind of neat. Crimson Tempest sims higher in Slice, but knowing that, I might play a bit with PB since I haven't messed with it since I was new

[subtle tundra]

PB's numbers just arent there to be any chance to get over CT

or rather, CT is just too stronk

[thick sail]

Absolutely true. Although this week is Tyrannical, so some extra single target damage probably isn't bad

Since, afaik, CT is useless on one target (I use it on 2, but never on 1)

[oak sky]

Its good in single target if you run any legendary but dashing

[thick sail]

What is? CT or PB?

[oak sky]

Ct

Just to maintain the dot

[thick sail]

I... Did not know I was supposed to be using CT on single target

[subtle tundra]

nah, its a small gain to use ct

[oak sky]

Yeah its like 30 dps or so

We change gear over smaller

[thick sail]

Oh wow, sheesh

[subtle tundra]

but also

[oak sky]

Only outside shiv though

[subtle tundra]

PB's st increase isnt big either

not even close to justify not having CT

even on Tyra

[oak sky]

The thing that makes it better than ct is that it doesnt cost anything, but its like never worth going in m+

[thick sail]

True, definitely not, though with Dashing it'll be giving extra damage and energy tick Regen with increased chance to crit, right?

I do love CT so being reassured not to drop it makes me feel good

[oak sky]

Most people dont really go dashing in keys

Generally speaking

[thick sail]

Oh 😞

I wanted to try something other than Obedience and I was liking the mini-game of keeping Envenom buff up

What do people use in keys if not Obedience? Zoldyck?

[subtle tundra]

Obedience if venthyr,zoldyck if not

[thick sail]

Gotcha

Am I doing something wrong with Obedience if I'm not consistently hitting 30 stacks?

With sub it was no problem, but with assassination I'm having a harder time and feel like I'm failing

[subtle tundra]

its normal

[timid cloud]

Obedience feels a bit strange, holding flag for like 40s is weird.

Unless I'm still doing this wrong.

After first Vendetta.*

[viscid schooner]

Hi guys sharpening stone or shadowcore oil? What is better?

One guide says that other guide says the other thing

[timid cloud]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[timid cloud]

Most use Stones / Agi Pot because it's consistent.

Shadowcore / Phantom are a bit RNG

[viscid schooner]

Okay thanks

[strange python]

So in looking at the easy mode rotation... it doesnt use mutilate at all?

oh wait nevermind I completely missed it

I pulled a dumb

[inland hull]

@spice spire I'm trying mfd now. I won't let you down!

[bleak ledge]

Messing around on my assa rogue alt, is frost set still bis?

[drifting cloud]

yeah

[spice spire]

You never do grim

[oak sky]

isnt it so pretty

[timid cloud]

Yes.

I told you, my brudda, you will get that 6 minimum.

But remember, always be humble.

Because this could be you.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/887327924720631889/902584888060969001/unknown.png

[oak sky]

i got an offspec ring from my vault

[hollow river]

agroaner

[oak sky]

we might kill up to kt but im not getting 9 bosses

whats good notricks

[hollow river]

what up dood

cool if i dm u rq

[oak sky]

yeah

im benched on remnant rn

[kind talon]

@oak sky how does he know

agroaner?

[oak sky]

he knows rick

[kind talon]

sheesh

[hollow river]

and daps be calling him agroaner

[brazen zodiac]

nice vault

[prime anchor]

Correct me if I’m wrong I thought obidience is for raid and zoldyck for m+ as a venthyr

[balmy condor]

you can play obed in keys as well

[prime anchor]

Oh ok, I just created both of this leggo today lol

[versed mica]

how does each rogue spec fare in M+ when new patch hits? Is it:
Sub > outlaw > sin? Or is it more complicated than that?

[rotund oak]

more complicated than that

but in terms of dmg it might be the case

[versed mica]

But I'm assuming sin will be the worst for M+ as usual yeah?

[rotund oak]

yes,most likely

but outlaw has something other specs dont

even if it loses to dmg,which it has to be by a fair margin to rebound the utility they are missing

[plain onyx]

naah, I say if you know your spec really good you can pull some decent numbers

[rotund oak]

we are talking about relative power,not how rly good you are to pull decent numbers

[versed mica]

outlaw basically just has gouge. That's it really. It's nice, but it's not essential

if sub pulls ahead people will play sub\

[oak sky]

good 5T, no cds, and also long arms

[timid cloud]

I think it'll be Sub-Sin-Outlaw

[oak sky]

hard to know

wait until like a week or 2 into the patch and we probably will

[hollow river]

Sin last tier after 9.0.5 was easily better than sub and barely behind outlaw. I’m feel crafting here but I think sub > sin >/= outlaw in 9.1.5

Obviously will depend on the dungeon and your tank, etc. Not much is really going to change with the way dungeons are pulled.

[normal mist]

Last night me and my guild downed fate HC, a total of 15 wipes since we first started trying this boss until he died. Gotta say, 15 wipes only is really amazing to me xD

[hollow river]

Yeah basically every boss on Heroic is pretty easy until you get to Sylvanas

Which depending on your guild can be pretty easy as well

[normal mist]

We almost got KT in 2 tries but it was getting late and people were calling RO

[bronze pike]

Kt has that one bad overlap, but by then you gotta let that one meteor kill that one guy and brez em or hope they have a immunity

[chrome spoke]

Hey all does dashing scoundrel affect poison bomb aswell?

[oak sky]

yes

[normal mist]

That final overlap where is ice everywhere?

[bronze pike]

Ice spikes, zombies and meteor that overlap

[frosty bridge]

Not a dagger but

259 chest

we take those

[normal mist]

Yeah we wiped to that

[bronze pike]

Ya

[normal mist]

Also we had 4 spikes grouped up so you can imagine the kaboom it was thx to our Aoe

[bronze pike]

Best to use your healing cds for that overlap, kill two slides first, then the other two spikes. Or kill two spikes first, damage one, and let the two remaining spikes die naturally

Ya

You can’t have em all grouped up, unless your stacking dk, paladins, warriors and healing cds

If you get meteors on that overlap, let the guy die if they don’t have a immunity. You can use the brez later

Cause In prog that’s a lot of incoming damage from spikes and meteor. Then deal with zombies right after

That’s the only difficult part of kt, once you got that part down, it’s hero and burn him

[normal mist]

After the raid I spent a chunk of time with our RL so we could figure out the best way to deal with that last phase. And it is exactly like you said, 2 spikes, dmg 1 and let the other die from natural causes

[bronze pike]

After the first two meteors on last phase, start sacrificing people

Exactly

[normal mist]

I've done KT, he did aswell but a bunch other didn't :P

[bronze pike]

Have two markers on the ground

[normal mist]

And as a group we are proging

[bronze pike]

Oh I believe it :) best bet for progging guild.

Moon marker on side for two spike stack, another marker for the other two spikes stack. Other than that kt is ez and enjoy your free loots

Syl is the toughy cause mechanics and fight length

[normal mist]

"if fate died in 15 pulls, KT will die in half those attempts" and I believe it

[oak sky]

kt got a lot easier

good luck

[bronze pike]

Ya kt is easier than fate by a huge margin. I got my bis helm so I don’t have to touch fate with a 9 foot pole

[north basin]

Hard to get the idea people progging hc right now)

[bronze pike]

It happens beginner guilds and somewhat, also content fatigue makes it hard to find decent mythic guilds

[north basin]

Decent chunk of mythic proggers iam raided with,did not use class discords). I assumed class discord users are mythic mindset people in 99% of cases)

[normal mist]

My guild isn't really beginner. We disbanded in the end of bfa, and rejoined like 4 weeks ago

Also I was playing ff14 till 4 weeks ago xD

[north basin]

Ok then)

[normal mist]

Maybe 6, since my sub already ran out once

[pure walrus]

hello, just so i understand the first question of the faq properly, we always want to finish at 5 cp?

sometimes mutilate gives you 4 Combo points at once, sometimes 1+3, 2+2. and it will end at 4, do i have to cast it again to be at 5 or is 4 fine?

[normal mist]

4/5

4 is good and 5 is great

If you are at 4, use a finisher. Unless your garrote is in pandemic, if so, garrote and finish

[pure walrus]

pandemic?

[normal mist]

Let's put it simple: if garrote is about to fall off, like 5< sec, and if you use garrote, you'll add 30% of that time to the new garrote you just applied, so instead of a 18/19 sec garrote, you'll have a 23/24 one (don't quote me, there are people here better at explanations than me)

Same happens to rupture btw

[pure walrus]

yea, i know that but what does "pandemic" means?

[normal mist]

That's the name of said effect

@balmy condor might be better to explain stuff

[balmy condor]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[normal mist]

Lol timings!

Thx Whispyr

My explanation was almost flawless

[balmy condor]

[normal mist]

Okay my vault didn't give me A sylvanas dagger BUT there is a sylv ring and a KT neck there

Hmmmm new ring and I go up to 45/46% CRIT hmmmmm

For the small price of lowering my haste even more

[oak sky]

sim it

that should tell you

[normal mist]

I'm working rn but I'm making something very similar to a sim.
Added all items in the gear comparison (each item in a different set). That should make the same job as the sim

(I'm on the phone, that's the important part here)

I have no access to the sim code rn :P

It seems the infinitely ooze goddamn 252 trinket simmed higher than everything else

[strange python]

FoK AoE cap removed. Is that going to be a ton of dmg for us?

[balmy condor]

no

because you're rarely ever in the situation of more than 8 targets to begin with

you're also only really getting some extra fok, ct, and poison damage, which is a decent portion, but not like some giga buff

[rotund oak]

POE Stream when ❤️

[balmy condor]

when I wake up

which requires I go to sleep

[normal mist]

Isn't it like 3/4 am for your rn?!

[balmy condor]

I don't wanna talk about it

[subtle tundra]

Atleast you didnt go to sleep at 6 and woke up 4 hours later

😔

[spice spire]

That’s His usual schedule tho

[subtle tundra]

same.. but atleast i dropped 2 ex and awakened brutality in 2hours 😎

[frosty bridge]

uh oh uh oh

[sturdy mesa]

[frosty bridge]

Good vault?

[sturdy mesa]

Got sylvanas belt that i looted from boss 🙂 so im happy :):)

[frosty bridge]

xD

[sturdy mesa]

Looted her saw epic that wasnt the ember i got excited then i decide to read the itme :):)::)

[solar stump]

Losmi = Caleb? :O

[frosty bridge]

Lel nah

[solar stump]

Sad

[frosty bridge]

caleb sucks

so thank god no

[solar stump]

I was gonna say thought Caleb was outlaw 😂

[frosty bridge]

He is a filthy WW abuser 😅

[solar stump]

Oh

Are you still in IBN? Or New guild now

[subtle tundra]

omg i cant wait for next fort week, imma play this filthy pad build with zoldyck

[frosty bridge]

Nah, I only helped them last tier get CE because they didn't have people :p

[solar stump]

I see I see

[heavy coral]

Still no dagger pogchamp

[thorny pond]

Same. Let's revolt

[sturdy merlin]

Who still doesn't have a single sylv dagger here ? not even a 233

just curious

[normal mist]

[wary pawn]

i dont and im in 3 weeks prog in sylvanas mythic already LuL

[alpine garden]

I don't have any daggers

Playing sin is really hard

Can't even mutilate

[sturdy merlin]

Build with garrote then

[normal mist]

Isn't a problem. Most of our dmgs is melee, so if you have swords or maces, the better!

[verbal mantle]

do you realize that you need 2 daggers to use Mutilate?

[normal mist]

Wait, really?

[verbal mantle]

yes

[normal mist]

I'm kidding btw

XD

[verbal mantle]

[normal mist]

I thought everyone would understand I was joking :'(

Sorry dad!

[verbal mantle]

Im not everyone you're gucci

[normal mist]

I mean, you didn't say anything about garrote building tho xD

[shrewd radish]

slow

[normal mist]

Which means it is viable my dudes!

[verbal mantle]

I noticed it ofc

[spice spire]

Garrote building

[verbal mantle]

[normal mist]

Best solution for all non-daggers assa rogues

They can also FoK sometimes or just poison knives

[thick sail]

Garrote building is huge brain

The perfect low APM spec for my old hands

[normal mist]

And 100% uptime on garrote

[thick sail]

Lol

[normal mist]

Which is huge

[thick sail]

Clearly subterfuge is the optimal choice here

[normal mist]

No doubts, so you can also get a rupture on the opener

[spice spire]

[thick sail]

Here's a real question, I'm assuming a Subterfuge empowered Garrote is stronger than a Nightstalker Garrote, 80% vs. 50%, am I wrong or right

[spice spire]

What am I reading rn

That’s correct

[thick sail]

Man

Nightstalker is not v good but I like the movespeed increase

Sadness

[normal mist]

I mean

You can NS, garrote, rupture and vanish

So you can be fast again

[thick sail]

Lol that's a compelling point

[normal mist]

And when garrote is about to drop, bang, a 50% bonus garrote

[spice spire]

Subterfuge also let’s you triple garrote for aoe as it extends time

MA just better overall

[late birch]

Did anyone say EoN?

[spice spire]

For ST

[spice spire]

[thick sail]

Yeah

[normal mist]

Gz my dude, now your garrote is super strong

That weapon is the pinnacle of garrote dmg

[late birch]

Anyone else farming old content for mage tower gear?

is it necessary? never played PTR

[normal mist]

Honestly I'm not gonna try hard the mage tower again

I'll go as I am rn

[late birch]

Well I never played legion D:, so im pretty excited

[normal mist]

Atleast the rogue ones are amazing, did them all

Sub One night be the hardest

While outlaw the easiest

[late birch]

luckily sub is my least played spec

so wont put too much time into doing it

[normal mist]

I was only able to do the sub One thx to literally item level

I bombed that boss

In the end, I don't even like the sub weapons or the rapiers for outlaw. Still using the assa daggers recolors to this day

[uneven summit]

KT progress and not a single dagger either normal, hc anything

[echo geyser]

whats the consensus on dashing vs obedience as venthyr, i have obedience simming 0.3% higher atm

but ppl telling me maybe its not the move

[north basin]

The TW ring worth farming in 9.1.5 with recent changes? How much dps it would give?

[clever kindle]

id like to find the crack you smoked to come up with this opinion

[normal mist]

How high are your frost shards ranks?

[clever kindle]

sin and sub were both trivially easy during legion

could have probably finished the sin mage tower single handed

[spice spire]

Obedience with mfd simming higher?

That’s pretty normal actually

[echo geyser]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uUGC6qrttGbidwKqiA6xYS

without wft

[spice spire]

100% normal

That’s going to be fine - you’ll do big thick damage with obedience

[normal mist]

I had a bunch of tries as sub early mage tower and couldn't do it, only later when I had gear and one shot it

[echo geyser]

yeah but is there like any downside to playing it on every boss etc

i guess the timers will be different

[spice spire]

Not really

[echo geyser]

close to 1 min flags

[gusty mirage]

Obedience kinda sucks on painsmith

[spice spire]

You’ll get more stacks

[gusty mirage]

Besides that should be fine on everything else

[spice spire]

Yeah I could see obe being dog water on the long ass intermission boss

[echo geyser]

almost all logs rn are dashing on wclogs

[spice spire]

But like obedience hella flexible due to stat buff, plus lowering CD of the ability

[gusty mirage]

I was thinking of playing obe for sylv prog because the idea of having flag up more often is kinda appealing

[spice spire]

The MFD Obedience tech also requires more brain matter. And is a new dark tech

Newer I should say

[echo geyser]

ill just try it in raid tonight

[spice spire]

It’s about a month or so now

[shell ivy]

Same, but I’ve been too used with 1:30 timers

ESP since I need to hold ccds for colossus

I don’t wanna ditch raid

[gusty mirage]

Peeps are slow to move to new stuff. A lot of folks still don’t play mfd even though it’s better

[echo geyser]

yeah could be true

[spice spire]

@ oxi

[echo geyser]

if only people didnt private log maybe we could see some high end ppl

[spice spire]

I know Cev did it at the end

And was a disgusting individual

But he always is

[echo geyser]

Cev

[gusty mirage]

Yeah I’ve gotten like every piece of p1 optimized where I’m kinda iffy changing anything and we’re finally getting everyone alive into p3 but sometimes the adds just take forever to die in p2 and I think having more flags might be worth tbh

[echo geyser]

good lad

[spice spire]

Absolute madlad assassination prodigy

Great lad - super jealous of his knowledge and skill of the spec

[gusty mirage]

No need to be jelly, cev’s always been a great help and generous answering questions

He even did a log check for me last tier

Apparently I’m not as bad as I think I am

[spice spire]

You’re not

[gusty mirage]

I died to rive last night

For the first time ever

[shell ivy]

Do u think with obe we can use flag every sylvanas burn phase & big add phases?

It’s prolly gonna be like 20 secs late

[echo geyser]

some bird told me obedience was the move on sylv

it might have been whispyr

[gusty mirage]

I’m not sure if we can get it for every burn phase and both big adds

[echo geyser]

maybe it depends on ur guilds push timers etc

[gusty mirage]

I haven’t paid too much attention to the timings

But p2 is roughly 4ish minutes?

[shell ivy]

I don’t know what’s ur assignment, but I’ve only been flagging the first summoner and then the colossus, as I have to go right and then left platform

But would been super great if I could find a way to flag sylvanas too

[gusty mirage]

Yeah I go right and left as well

[shell ivy]

Do u hold everything for colossus too?

[gusty mirage]

I’ve been holding for both burn phases

[shell ivy]

So nothing on adds

[gusty mirage]

But idk if that’s the play

[shell ivy]

How many r u guys on colossus

[gusty mirage]

Because sometimes we just hard struggle on adds

Uh let me check the spreadsheet but I think there’s 5 of us not including tank and healer

[echo geyser]

also CT in general is a trap i heard right?

[gusty mirage]

DK, DH, me, fae boomie, spriest

[echo geyser]

Yung Cev was preaching about just run PB a lot

[shell ivy]

I see

Yeah I think we’re 1-2 less than u guys and if I don’t use vendetta here we’re in severe lackdamage

[gusty mirage]

Depends on the boss I suppose

[echo geyser]

soulrender and KT what about those

rest i think opt for PB

[shell ivy]

So I’ve been using vendetta for colossus only on p2, now I’m very worried about our p3 sylvanas damage then

[gusty mirage]

Yeah that’s understandable

[gusty mirage]

Ye I play CT on those two and that’s about it

[shell ivy]

We get her to like 76% ish when reaching p3 sometimes 77

[gusty mirage]

Ye the reason I hold for burn phases is cuz ryler was telling me that if you just hold for both burns. Vendetta lines up better with the veils in p3

But having a boomie on the colossus makes it ez mode tbh

[echo geyser]

even if u go down?

[shell ivy]

We do have a boomie

[gusty mirage]

If they hold CDs for colossus they can do half its health in damage

[shell ivy]

It’s just him and me doing most

[gusty mirage]

AFAIK yeah cuz of the obnoxious amount of adds that spawn

[echo geyser]

also does it matter if u play dashing/obedience for using CT on ST?

[gusty mirage]

Nah, you just don’t CT in ST if you play dashing

[echo geyser]

ah less envenoms

[gusty mirage]

Ye

[echo geyser]

so CT on ST if outside shiv i guess if i run obed everywhere

painsmith bad

[gusty mirage]

Theoretically for KT if you stay upstairs I think obe would get a tad more value because it’d be easier to consistently hit 30 stacks

[echo geyser]

mfd

[gusty mirage]

We had a momentum DH legit top damage because of the adds on KT

He went from like 6th on the meters to first and 70% of his damage was to the adds lol

[echo geyser]

gotta remove some of his dmg with CT

[gusty mirage]

Actual braindead class

[echo geyser]

[spice spire]

Bro wdym momentum is the biggest brain

[gusty mirage]

He did tank damage to the boss

Parsed a 98

[hollow river]

Fking padders man

I’m gonna play a padder class next tier

We give out hunter PI on prog sometimes lmao

So he can decimate whatever aoe needs decimating

Kinda weird tho tbh

[solar stump]

giga cringe

[gusty mirage]

Are they at least marksman or does your guild love inting?

[hollow river]

They’re mm yeah

And he’s a sick player

[inland hull]

So I tried obedience/mfd for the first time in raid last night. I've definitely got room for improvement (maybe several rooms). Aside from gear / getting targeted with mechanics, give it to me straight docs, how bad is it? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x2gH6r4mkwdtF8Kv#fight=29&type=summary&source=93

[echo geyser]

im trying that tonight

[solar stump]

Your gear and stats look fine enough to me? Could use a sylv chest and a better trinket than ooze tho 😛

[inland hull]

My next best is IQD, which I worried was sim bait

[hollow river]

Ocular Gland doesn’t sim better than Ooze trinket?

[solar stump]

I used IQD up till literally 3 weeks ago 😂

[hollow river]

You just gotta know how/when to use it

There’s a WA for it iirc

[solar stump]

there is

but ocular gland is a good choice if you dont wanna think

[hollow river]

I didn’t take a 252 IQD out of my first vault of the season

[solar stump]

I did 😂

[hollow river]

Didn’t wanna deal with it

[solar stump]

first vault of the season I just took it because Lemunter was using it in Nathria

[hollow river]

I took a shadowgrasp totem because it only simmed like 30-40 dps worse

[solar stump]

I always thought shadowgrasp was a meme

[hollow river]

Nah for some reason this tier it’s really good

[gusty mirage]

It was good last tier too

[hollow river]

Was it?

[gusty mirage]

No one believed in the secret tech

Yessir

[hollow river]

I don’t recall anyone using it

[gusty mirage]

Around march we discovered it was hasted

I ran 220 phial/226 totem exclusively

[hollow river]

Imagine having a phial in CN

[inland hull]

I may have heroic ocular gland, and I hardly ever have hp issues, so it is likely better. I'll have to give it a sim.

[gusty mirage]

Hungering

[hollow river]

Dreadfire vessel>totem?

[gusty mirage]

No clue never had one

[hollow river]

I had 220 daggers

[gusty mirage]

Our boomkin kept it because it was “probably an upgrade” and never used it over his IQD/Bell

[hollow river]

220 dreadfire and 226 skulkers

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

Boomies r st00pid

He just wanted to int your meter damage

[real solar]

Hi @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

I remember people bitching about “sin is too OP they need to nerf”

[gusty mirage]

If it isn’t my favorite rogue on zuljin

[real solar]

heheh

[hollow river]

And I’m like I just know how to play my class sort of

[real solar]

I only raided last week - haven’t played all Oct lol

[gusty mirage]

I’m beyond jealous, I’ve been crying on sylv prog for 3 weeks now

[real solar]

I was pumping on Sylv and we didn’t rekill 😦

Was doing 7.9k at 245 or 246 😦

1% wipes

[gusty mirage]

I heard no dagger either

Just need you, @warped temple and me to get 259 sylv daggers

[hollow river]

Dagger is fake news

[real solar]

Nah I quit so idc :p

Pika’s brother is taking my spot

Next week

[gusty mirage]

Yeah I’m probably quitting when sylv dies

Tbh this tier has ruined me lol

Take me with you

[real solar]

Rip zuljin cutest rogues

[gusty mirage]

Leave ryfie by himself

[normal mist]

@limber lion You busy my dude?

[soft shale]

na rogues washing out

[gusty mirage]

Just saving more space for you

[soft shale]

maybe thats the way to dispel the curse to go to na

[fallen arch]

What curse

[soft shale]

the disband curse

[fallen arch]

I feel all you have to do is wait a bit longer

It will happen eventually

Game pretty stale if u ask me, and not really much to look forward to

I cancelled my sub too, hopefully 9.2 gives me a reason to return

[soft shale]

nah i get knocked down

but i get up again

[clever kindle]

even 9.1.5 to give people shit to do, pandemic plus recent situation crushed the development cycle

at least with 9.1.5 I can go farm shit for other covenants

But as of now we have no end to this tier in view, no information on the next patch to hook us in

(9.2)

[soft shale]

i mean i have been playing since 2005 im not leaving unless i die i guess

not many people are like me

[plain onyx]

yeah, i don't die

[limber lion]

Sup

[normal mist]

Thanks for reviewing a log with me last week (?) Man. Would love to ask you if you have some spare time today to recheck them today!

[limber lion]

I'm quite busy and can't really do that now

But there's plenty of gamers here who could help out

[normal mist]

It's fine, thank you anyway, I shall then bother someone else

[warped temple]

i also need heroic.. 🙂

[gusty mirage]

I got you

I got mine last monday

[warped temple]

haha man i should just create a 15 rogue sod reclear group and stream it lol

[gusty mirage]

it'll be like the boomie one

[warped temple]

would be p fun lol

[gusty mirage]

except everything will take 50 years to die

because we'd get fucked by mechanics

[warped temple]

cmon it's heroic lol

[soft shale]

may do that on eu too after i get my hc dagger/M dagger to make people happy

[gusty mirage]

just tell me when and where

[hollow river]

Down

Been trying to tell @balmy condor to do that for a while now but I guess he’s too ethical gamer :/

[charred wraith]

no need to create it, from time to time ppl buy vip sod runs with 10-15 traders, guess which class and for what

[hollow river]

Venthyr boomkin paying for dagger mogs

[charred wraith]

you are correct

to never see them in the boomkin form

[hollow river]

All Venthyr boomkins are rich, intellectual chads.

[prisma cypress]

anyone have advice for soulrender? talents, legendary, which targets to focus on

[hollow river]

Whichever legendary sims best for you

Focus the boss, and the Overlord

Maybe rupture a couple of the other adds

[gusty mirage]

run MFD for the juicy resets, run CT cuz add damage is still important even if they get deleted every other set

obe might have a lil more value because you can get a bunch of stacks during add phase

focus boss and big add

mostly boss

because big add should be melting anyway

[hollow river]

I thought CT was still a preference thing for render

[ember sage]

At what crit % is it worth going frost shards/dashing over UH/doomblade?

[hollow river]

You’d have to sim to be exact I’ve seen anywhere from 32-40% but it depends on multiple different things

Ideally you go frost in preparation for the future

[ember sage]

Yea thought it was between 35-40% but someone told me at was already around 25%

[hollow river]

Idk for me personally it was 32ish but it varies from person to person

That’s why we sim it

[plain onyx]

what is the cap level of shards ?

[thin imp]

Hi all, one quick question, we are doing prog at KT, do you vendetta at pull, then wait cds and vendetta to the phylanctery? Or hold it for second KT?

[inland hull]

In our HC, I pop vendetta with pull and have it back right after each phylactery phase.

I'm only ever using it on KT

But I'm running obedience, so I usually have flag for every phylactery phase

[spice spire]

5

[plain onyx]

thanks

[gusty mirage]

You’ll probably need the damage downstairs on mythic prog. So I’d hold until you go down

But it really depends on your raid comp

And where you need damage

[bitter apex]

while progressing bosses would it not be a "dps" gain to switch to another trinket instead of using Gland? cus gland is simming 100% uptime which is kinda not correct while on progress

[gusty mirage]

Try simming it with 80% uptime which is probably more realistic for prog

[bitter apex]

thanks can't believe I've never seen that options lmao

[echo geyser]

CT or not on KT, im on it now @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

CT

The decision is reinforced by my source for the secret tech being Cev

Just try not to beat my parse by too much

[echo geyser]

[gusty mirage]

I only got a 78

[echo geyser]

do u swap to tank adds

[gusty mirage]

Only if they’re close to boss

Far ones should be ranged’s job

Usually it’s just tossing a small cp rupture on them for the extra energy regen in the 4s they’re alive lmao

[spice spire]

We do be loving ranged mechanics (every mechanic)

[kind talon]

(Every mechanic)

Lmaooooooo

Not wrong!

[strange python]

Why do I suck at rogue?

[teal bloom]

You have to slam shiv harder

[kind talon]

We can help you if log review or something

[strange python]

I’m not sophisticated enough for a log but basically my item level is 90, I can’t get through bastion as basic world mobs are annihilating me

[spice spire]

Well that’s normal

Low ilvl plus rogue squish

[thick sail]

Your items are too low

[strange python]

What can I do to improve ilevel

[nimble thicket]

Quest for gear and remember to use your CDs to live in the world. Rogue gets crushed, focus on maybe CCing a mob and 1v1 the other mob.

[strange python]

What’s CD?

[wary ice]

cool downs

[strange python]

Oh duh

[wary ice]

Sap -> cheapshot openers are you friend at that low ilvl

[fallen arch]

Eh basically play the game, it’ll throw gear at you

[wary ice]

liberal use of evasion wil lalso help alot

[fallen arch]

Yeah on cd

[strange python]

Well thank you for the advice I’ll try some of these tonight

[fallen arch]

And kidney a lot

[wary ice]

^

taking uhhh

whats it called

internal bleeding?

[nimble thicket]

Try to kill the mob or get 70% of their hp within that opener-stun window. It will help

[wary ice]

the bleed on kidney talent

[nimble thicket]

90 ilvl is low but it will force you to play like a “rogue” - you get slapped very easy out in the open. You will scale into being able to handle the world better as you just play.

[wary ice]

u also have dots and crippling poison so

when in doubt u can just run in a circle with rupture on

[fallen arch]

Or lvl with sub or outlaw which is probably better at that ilvl

[kind talon]

Sub

Really good for world content

[gloomy epoch]

!ds

[prisma monolith]

Macroing Ambush to Mutilate only works with the use of a addon.
It comes with the downside that it often requires multiple key presss.
Suggested addon to use(Gnome Sequencer):http://tiny.cc/mxb6tz
Showcase Video: #assassination message

[pliant nest]

hey is it worth to use vendetta in 2nd burn phase in p2 mythic sylvie?

it only comes off cd when she has ~15s of vulnerability left, so im not sure

[hollow river]

Yes

If you’re vendetta isn’t needed for any adds

[pliant nest]

ok thanks

[limber lion]

yes.

[limber lion]

yes.

[limber lion]

It of course depends on what your team needs and if you're assigned to use cooldowns somewhere.

I personally just used all cds on cd generally, had to hold for Remnant a few times during farm and slightly scuffed comps but that's about it.

[bitter canyon]

any of the high io sin rogues stream keys?

[subtle tundra]

i will probably start?

idk

zerocool does

[bitter canyon]

do you know what his stream is? Its not listed on his raider.io page

[gusty mirage]

gonna take a moment to pat myself on the back for getting all these answers right

[bitter canyon]

or yours @subtle tundra

[limber lion]

yup!

[subtle tundra]

i havent streamed yet and idk zero's one

[bitter canyon]

want to try necro sin for m+ in 9.1.5 since we need a necro and i dont really like outlaw playstyle

ah rip

[subtle tundra]

ill play necro next fort week full pad build

[gusty mirage]

every time you beat a havoc DH in damage the angels come down and plant a tree

save our planet

[subtle tundra]

i played last night some dh keys and i outdps'd him

[gusty mirage]

that's because you're a chad gamer

and he's just an illidan simp

[subtle tundra]

true 🙏

[wary ice]

my DH is just named illestdan

and i havent touched him

[subtle tundra]

the difference between last week and this week in keys is so big, fuck bolstering on fort

[gusty mirage]

it took me an embarrassing amount of time to realize that the name was just a play off of illidan

[vestal wren]

!affix

[prisma monolith]

Affixes: Tyrannical, Sanguine, Storming, Tormented

[plain onyx]

is it okay if I combine amplifier with vendetta in one macro ?

[balmy condor]

not really, no

vendetta is 2 min, fusion amp is 1:30

[normal mist]

My friends i require some help!

Joined a HC sylvanas guild run, we downed her in 2 tries, but i would love if someone could actually take a look at my log to see where i could improve in that fight for when i prog it with my own guild.

[kind talon]

if you post the log here whispyr can make a thread

or u can feel free to dm someone for help

[tiny quartz]

try to run fast and use shadowsteep on her and use as fast as possible vendetta on 1st burn, use cos for the waves, on burn 2 will come exactly before she cast veil and use again cos for waves also try to get Pi's and pot on both of those u will get like 800-900k dmg on burn pha

[normal mist]

Im kind of dumb honestly and i have no idea which link i have to put here. i can just link wlogs of my character? sorry, really dumb here

[kind talon]

haha dont worry, you can link your character or go to the sylvanas kill and link that

[normal mist]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hAxzn6jG9Kr1P7qd#fight=11&type=summary

i guess thats it

[kind talon]

best to go to the log u want us to look at and post that

[normal mist]

there is only one there xD

[kind talon]

ye

[balmy condor]

someone wanna grab it or should I

[normal mist]

All i have to offer is being cool

[balmy condor]

lemme finish this map rq and I'll take a look

[normal mist]

Thanks Whispyr!

[kind talon]

could you make it a thread

oh

nvm

[fading wigeon]

Hey folks, can someone check out my logs here and see if there is anything I can do to improve? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wK9JXac4pCtjB8NV/#type=damage-done&boss=2434&difficulty=5&wipes=1

[brazen zodiac]

Whupsyr what level r u

Whispyr

[quasi grotto]

on p2 sylv im being told to hold my CDS for col only

shouldnt i be using on burns? col dies pretty fast tbh. but new guild so just doing as im told XD

[gusty mirage]

ideal usage is on burns

but if your RL wants it on colossus fuck it

if you end up having an uphill fight in p3 because not enough damage during burns

that's a strat problem

[quasi grotto]

yeah just didnt make sense to me lol

[shell ivy]

have u guys reached p3 yet? how much % is sylvanas

[proper phoenix]

Hi guys what lego is good for raiding?

[shell ivy]

when u do

[gusty mirage]

yea didn't make sense to me either lmao

[gusty mirage]

dashing or obedience

[proper phoenix]

And for mythic plus as assasination

[gusty mirage]

zoldyk's for m+

[proper phoenix]

Thanks so@much

[gusty mirage]

[golden basalt]

Obedience is pretty aight all a rounder if you’re broke on soul ash

[gusty mirage]

every time I was allowed to save CDs for burn we made it to p3 with her at 76ish%

[shell ivy]

i see

[proper phoenix]

Ok cool

[hollow river]

Ideally she should be 78% or less

[proper phoenix]

I don’t know which one I will craft for now for raid or mythic plus

[gusty mirage]

yeah obedience can be used for all 3 specs in all content

[proper phoenix]

Debating

[shell ivy]

i guess i shouldnt bother too much about the fact that i'm not cd'ing the burn then

we seem to reach 77-78% consistently

[gusty mirage]

it won't be as great as other choices in m+ (except for sub) but it'll perform well

@shell ivy ye with me CDing both burns we're high 76% to mid 77%

[shell ivy]

i'm acrtually surprised we get around 78% without any big cds either

we'll see i guess

[hollow river]

Sylv is hardly a dps check at this point

Most people are so geared that every fight is just about mechanics

[gusty mirage]

yea it was cleared with what? 233-235 ilvl average?

granted those are insane tier gamers

[hollow river]

Yeah and those people were doing 10k dps on guardian at that ilvl or some shit

[kind talon]

no way

10k dps

each??

🧐

[hollow river]

....

[limber lion]

Nah

[kind talon]

especailly the tanks

[hollow river]

I’m doing 10k at 249

[kind talon]

pretty sure they were only doing 8-9k tho

[hollow river]

Probably

[kind talon]

so youre better than limit players

[hollow river]

I exaggerated a bit

[kind talon]

which is why youre better than limit players

[hollow river]

Nah

[limber lion]

Stop

[hollow river]

I sim for like 10.5k at 249

[subtle tundra]

just say varas is the best

[hollow river]

Kinda bad

[normal mist]

Im back boysss REEEEEEEE

[kind talon]

welcome back

[hollow river]

I guess I’m gonna open loot box as outlaw for the rest of the tier or until Sylvanas dies

Need a ripper

[solar stump]

I traded a ripper today 😦

[kind talon]

252?

[solar stump]

DH priorities

[kind talon]

oof

[solar stump]

it is what it is

[kind talon]

you should have mained outlaw

its good for your brain

makes you smarter

[hollow river]

We gave 2 heroic rippers to our other rogues monk

[kind talon]

thats actually lit

[hollow river]

Because we’re trying to bring it to prog

[solar stump]

my monk have a 252 veinripper tbf

[kind talon]

adn then he quit?

[kind talon]

thats extremely poggers

do u have 259 dagger yet

[solar stump]

1 of them

[hollow river]

No he’s rerolled monk for Sylvanas

Because we haven’t had monk buff

Another big reason I haven’t played outlaw

[kind talon]

fair

[kind talon]

nice thats poggers

[solar stump]

need other to drop in vault

cos otherwise I'd probably trade it

[kind talon]

i need one

then i could plah sub

and sind

sin

[solar stump]

fuck sub tbh

[kind talon]

i dont mind it

[hollow river]

Sub is poggers

I finished blood set last night

[viscid spear]

I don't feel like playing anymore.

[subtle tundra]

Sub is boring cba

[solar stump]

i just dont enjoy the deathly shadows BS

one druid go zug zug too quick and then you may as well not play that attempt 😂

[subtle tundra]

make sure everybody knows you just kill yourself(IN GAME OF COURSE) if people ninja 🙂

[solar stump]

the response would be "go back to sin"

[subtle tundra]

and tell them to fuck themselves

[solar stump]

tis fine, outlaw will be my OS

I only have sub role because it's a nicer color

[hollow river]

^—best color

[viscid spear]

[shy nest]

Is shadowgrasp totem better for sylvanas? since gland losses value in p3 alot?

[hollow river]

check your gland uptime in p3

you can change it's uptime in sims

[balmy condor]

gland loses value in p3?

[drifting cloud]

not this shit again

[balmy condor]

98% uptime trinket

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

loses value

[shy nest]

85% uptime

in p3

[charred wraith]

Get hit less press feint more eat more pots

[hollow river]

pressing feint more on sylvanas is actually big

[balmy condor]

85%

just eating mechanics or something

[hollow river]

Well if it’s prog it could be like 1 minute of p3

[shy nest]

Yeah we're still progging but like its almost dead

[hollow river]

Smaller sample size leads to scewed results

[balmy condor]

85% is like

significantly lower than anyone I've heard of

[hollow river]

Really bad

[balmy condor]

on prog

[drifting cloud]

85 is healer problem not trinket problem

or maybe you got 3 arrows and were afk on other platforms

[balmy condor]

yeh

[shy nest]

yeah I did get arrow

[hollow river]

Check uptime on more than one pull

How long is p3?

[drifting cloud]

6min

my hp on first kill 2months ago, with r4 frost set

[hollow river]

Kk

[shy nest]

our best try 45% 79%

[hollow river]

79% uptime?

[balmy condor]

[drifting cloud]

that just sounds

impossible

[hollow river]

Yeah that’s a big yikes

[shy nest]

yeah

[drifting cloud]

thats literally 1min

of being below 50%

[hollow river]

Of being below 50

Yeah that’s insane

[shell kettle]

20% of time below half hp

[hollow river]

Usually you dip below for like 1-3 seconds

And get spot healed

Sounds like a healer issue