assassination

[rugged basalt]

I just pick crit and if it’s bad I scream

[grim jay]

But I would honestly for all intents and purposes just pick vers

Its just straight 3%dmg 1.5%dr

Probably the best value per point even unless it changed, as in you would need more stat points to get the %

[balmy condor]

Ratio in terms of comparing raw numbers to each other, not percents

[golden loom]

do you have the forbbiden difference between fb and ds in single target whispyr

since da sim aint simming

[balmy condor]

Fb is like 3-5% higher

[barren yarrow]

Just reading and we don't rupture on DS while it's active, why is that?

[dire smelt]

how is deathstalker not being taken for fallen king

[subtle tundra]

cause adds die insta

from the real specs

;O

[dire smelt]

ye but u can legit just hit the boss the entire time no

[subtle tundra]

yes so you play fb

[dire smelt]

but I thought deathstalker is better at pure st

[humble verge]

you guys do damage to the balls?

[dire smelt]

I did not hit a ball once

in that fight

and I was thinking

why am I not deathstalker

[subtle tundra]

why would you be

real question

[barren yarrow]

We assign melee and range a ball.

But it deletes so fast

[dire smelt]

because like I said I thought deathstalker is better at pure st

so is that just not true then

or what

[subtle tundra]

pretty sure it isnt?

last i heard

[dire smelt]

oh okay

lets just remove the hero talent then

[subtle tundra]

that was what ive been saying since tww s1 beta

[barren yarrow]

I mean play with it and see

[rugged basalt]

Wasn’t it used only in aoe builds in tww

[subtle tundra]

no deathstalker was the only option ever

in tww

until last tier

[rugged basalt]

Oh it changed in s3

[barren yarrow]

Yes

[subtle tundra]

where fb was better for pure st i believe

but i didnt play that season so i cant say fo so

[dire smelt]

nah cuz then i'd have to queue up for a boss I already killed

I was just asking incase anyone knew

[rugged basalt]

My memory of sin was a blur in s2

[golden loom]

2 messages above you

[barren yarrow]

I'm pretty sure it's not a huge difference.

[balmy condor]

Rupture doesn’t consume darkest night

[barren yarrow]

Ty King

[dire smelt]

yeah they should delete the hero talent

happens

[zealous moth]

(bit late but) you do and hovering on parse % shows you that info

Also someone please tell my I dreamed reading about mark for death

I dont want to check the pins and see it's real

[sacred oyster]

nah its became a meme to distract guild mates with the "rogue coins" in my group, gotta feed their love for my coins.

[latent kernel]

how do you get the additional 50 myth crests this week/

?

[runic hinge]

20 from cracked keystone from doing an 11 delve

30 from doing ??

[humble verge]

damn

casual playing assa in keys

[analog field]

yeah seems really fine

[humble verge]

also swapping to panda

[analog field]

for m+ I think dwarf is the only solution

maybe nelf too

but survivability will be the only issue

[humble verge]

hes panda for the double food buff tho

its kinda huge

atleast for prog this early

[analog field]

for raid yeah

I don't think for m+ it is

The problem all people are referencing is that we are doing too much dmg so the key level is like +3 from what it should be

and in the end it's not the mobs health but dmg which makes the key untimeable

[runic hinge]

Things die to fast but hit too hard

[coral ibex]

next week 12’s will be baby mode like 10s are this week

[stuck lodge]

How long should packs last I guess is the question? I'm finding that my bleeds are about to expire from the first round of spreading right around when the mobs are at like 5-10% health left. Which makes it awkward for me to know if I should be trying to reapply or what

[coral ibex]

well as long as the mob with the most hp in a pull dies before dm and kb fully tick

feels really bad watching the prio mob in a pack lose 50% hp before i finish casting puzzle box

[stuck lodge]

This is a dps loss right?

I keep finding that I am bursting my DM/KB target down too last, and I lose the DM buff

so idk if I should be like, putting DM on some rando thing and then tabbing to something else to keep the ramp

[latent kernel]

This shit literally sucks lol

Once again, another problem with having your dps cooldowns tracked on the target

[ornate jetty]

yayyy sin rogue represent

[stuck lodge]

is that the 3k mount? I'm at 2500

gratz

[ornate jetty]

yuppies! ^^

[stuck lodge]

very nice, do you need like 13's across the board to hit it?

[ornate jetty]

more or less yes!

[analog field]

4 and 4 I think

[stuck lodge]

12's and 13's?

I'm at 10's and 11's right now

[ornate jetty]

yup i think the average is 12s as baseline, then some 13s

[analog field]

I wanna play some high keys but my guildies want items

and I am bored of grinding just for gear

[ornate jetty]

i still have a 10, but a timed 14 and 15 pulled its weight

[analog field]

yeah I have like some 11's and 1-2 eights

and I am applying in 12

[stuck lodge]

I'm capped in crests and vault, so I'm probably just gonna wait for next week.

I did not get very lucky with drops

[iron thorn]

pretty much all from keys

45 this week

about what i expected to do

[latent kernel]

are the 50 additional myth crests time gated to this week or can you get them from doing the cracked keystone and ?? boss whenever?

[fallow canopy]

whenever iirc

[iron thorn]

how did you get cracked keystone again?

i must have missed that

even though i did some delves

[fallow canopy]

bountiful 11 delve I think

[iron thorn]

ah 11

[fallow canopy]

not sure if 11 tbh but I got it there

[iron thorn]

i cba'd going higher than 8 because they felt so shit

[fallow canopy]

so I'm going with that

[coral ibex]

its 11 doesn't have to be bountiful tho

[gleaming geyser]

I found delves way easier in Midnight than they have been in the past

[iron thorn]

myth crests only useful once you have myth track items to upgrade

[gleaming geyser]

have not had any issue climbing to 11 solo

[iron thorn]

so i don't need them yet

idk i struggled so hard pushing them to 8 on law week 1

[gleaming geyser]

worst case; just wait until the atal'aman one comes up where you just rescue the dudes and stealth past everything

[iron thorn]

i just cba'd since

[iron thorn]

[stuck lodge]

well you use myth crests for crafting too

Dagger and bracers

[gleaming geyser]

and one more item this upcoming reset

possibly

[weary stump]

Granted I didn't have much time this week but I have so far struggled to get even into two 8s as a pug rogue my fat chungus life

[iron thorn]

i do have a crafted dagger and still 120 crests left over

because i crafted sword and dagger

but don't intend on upgrading sword

because outlaw seems kinda wild this raid

[stuck lodge]

bracers is also BiS i think

[iron thorn]

as always

[iron thorn]

probably what i'll be doing next week

[weary stump]

Watch outlaw get an insane buff before we do

[lucid silo]

spyropulse will never need a buff... in my heart

[weary stump]

[sacred oyster]

id take least matching sub rogues dps

i can beat sub on ST but they def rocking me on aoe

[cloud dune]

Crafted weapon

[cloud dune]

Deserved tbh

[weary stump]

Outlaw isn't a real class so false

[royal lantern]

the only thing outlaw deserves is deletion from the game

[weary stump]

Change outlaw to ranged dps or tank spec

[cloud dune]

Buncha haters in here, I see

[cloud dune]

True, it's a spec

[weary stump]

God will smite me before I wield a sword on main

Also true yeah

[cloud dune]

Outlaw is fun though

[runic hinge]

With moonkin

[iron thorn]

did so alrdy

as i said, crafted sword and dagger last week so i was fine to play all 3 specs

next week will be 2nd embellish for assa/sub then

idk what slot on yet

[cloud dune]

Ah, I've been debating on crafting a dagger so I can flex into sub/sin but I'd need to get 80 more myth crests for that and I don't have the time.

[clever gust]

Hey guys, does anyone have a way to track Implacable stacks efficiently within the game ?
Cd manager not tracking the stacks whenever Energy regen buff is active is driving me crazy.

[torn dome]

Nah we just drag our eyes all over the screen every few envs and see where we’re at

[iron thorn]

sometimes it shows up, sometimes it doesn't

[royal lantern]

count to 5 and hope that blizzard fixes it at some point

its only our expansion feature talent, no biggie

[runic hinge]

I just don’t play around it and it’s fine

[royal lantern]

[clever gust]

Well will keep trying to find the green buff between my 10 other green buffs then

[fallow canopy]

If you use arcui there's a workaround

Other than that count to 5

[weary stump]

To be fair you kinda accidentally play around it with a good rotation ig

[stuck lodge]

sort of, depends on how lucky you are getting with crits for cp generation

[weary stump]

Yeah, that's why it's kinda lol

[visual dragon]

Mostly it falls off the moment you get rupture back up no?

[real pike]

Didn't someone post a solution that sort of worked a few days ago

[coral ibex]

you can do something hacky with arcui apparently

[analog field]

it was too hacky

[fallow canopy]

not really if you have set up your arcui its not that hard to do

[north spruce]

1. In ArcUI, go to Bars -> Custom Bars -> Create New Stack

2. Set Max Stacks to 80 and turn off all the other options under Stack Settings & Expiry.

3. Make a generator using the Spell Cast Option, tracking Envenom, that gives 15 stacks. This gives 15 stacks each time you cast Envenom.

4. Make a second generator using the Aura Gained option, tracking the Envenom buff that gives 5 stacks. This accounts for the fact that the first stack gives 5 more than the rest since you gain Envenom once at the start of the chain, but refreshing it doesn't give you a new instance of the buff, so this only triggers once on the first cast of the chain

5. Make 1 spender, using the Aura Lost option, tracking the Envenom buff, that removes 80 stacks. This resets the counter when you lose the Envenom buff

6. Adjust the appearance to your liking. Without changing any options, it looks like it does in the screen recording here. If you just want the icon and no bar, you can make the bar invisible and move the duration (not stack) text so it sits on top of the icon.

Since it's not doing anything with the Implacable buff itself, this doesn't get overwritten by the energy regen buff after Envenom drops off. idk if there's an easier way to do this, like I said, but this is what I did and it mostly works. It seems to occasionally bug out, but a /reload usually fixes it

That’s the implacable work around for arcui

I’ve found that after a relog though the +5 stacks for the initial envenom doesnt work (for me) so I’ve had to delete and re make the second spender each time logging in

[fallow canopy]

I just did +16 on env and did not create the aura +5 condition

on 5 it reachs 80 too

and didn't have too work around the +5 buff aura bugging

since i'm not tracking the number itself but did a bar with notches

[dreamy plover]

If I apply improved garrote and I am applying a new garrote again shortly before it runs out, will it continue as improved garrote or do I need to actally stealth out again and apply improved garrote? 🤔

[north spruce]

Oh shit that’s actually so smart I might try that

[runic hinge]

Yeah dude you’re blocked

[wraith knot]

Porn just isn't what it used to be

[torn dome]

Improved garrote debuff only lasts like 5s after breaking stealth.

[keen spruce]

[torn dome]

Debuff, buff, w/e

[latent kernel]

so we should wait to craft the wrists right?

[dreamy plover]

aaah, thanks!

[velvet nacelle]

shower thought: whoever coined assassination's abbreviated name as "sin" did us all a disservice. I'd much rather say "ass" repeatedly than "sin"

[strange onyx]

used to be called mut

but i say assa

[velvet nacelle]

i just like ass

i know how that looked and i'm ok with it

[oak flint]

Is murder row fishhook worth a craft or is it really bad?

[velvet nacelle]

i think the cantrip is pretty mediocre on that but if it looks fun to you i say go for it

[coral ibex]

it is really bad

[wraith knot]

ass as(arms warrior)

[marble wadi]

is there min crit req for assa

[solar wyvern]

Minimum crit = as much as u can possibly get

[marble wadi]

fair.

[past bobcat]

@solar wyvern how is sin doing on paladin

ok?

[solar wyvern]

Idk havent done it yet ill let u know after i pull it tonight

[stuck lodge]

What for?

[analog hedge]

for a huge room pull like algethar ( the 2nd boss adds) how many adds do u usually spread garrote to before going into fok + env spam?

[stuck lodge]

I think you want to spread rup and garrote to all of them

So its usually open with impg, fok, rupture, impg again, CT + envenom at 5+ until they all have it, then switch to fok (depending on mob count check the pins)

[analog hedge]

hmm, its like 20 30 adds? after pulling the whole room, and i feel like my dps dips (vs other dps) when i spammed CT instead of FoK

[stuck lodge]

Depends on kill time for the adds I guess

[analog hedge]

but ill try full commiting to ct next time ig

[stuck lodge]

If they are dying in like 5 seconds, yeah not worth

Probably anyway

And in those situations I just use them to funnel into the boss

[analog hedge]

oh this is before the boss spawn

[analog field]

if there are 20 mobs you dont run out of energy

[analog hedge]

algethar, the tree adda

*adds

[stuck lodge]

Oh the big pull before that boss

[analog hedge]

yeye

[stuck lodge]

Yeah those should take awhile to die, I would try to dot all of them I think

[analog hedge]

aight bet

[royal lantern]

me at 7am in the morning

[true tusk]

Hey mates! I noticed some players run 1 point in Fatal Concoction and 2 in Lethal Dose instead of 2 in Fatal Concoction and 1 in Secondary Poisoning. How does that change the playstyle? Does it give extra DPS for Sin Rogue?

[subtle tundra]

those talents dont matter

[runic hinge]

nothing matters, entropy comes for us all

[scarlet wyvern]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[night vessel]

i saw that zerocool has damage done overall in details. is this still possible?

[real pike]

Who is zerocool? Never heard of him

[spice surge]

Its possible with just the default meter

But yes

[strange onyx]

The flying dog is dead

Truly a mickey mouse HoF

[weary stump]

Kerrigan sends zerg to eat us all eventually, or something

[royal lantern]

i dont understand why they didnt make HoF being 9/9

like, that just makes sense right lol

[night iris]

Is there a fix to cdm not showing Implacable stacks when you have the energy regen buff?

[royal lantern]

nope

hope they fix it

[night iris]

Is there a seperate ID or something I could track with arcui

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-10455738442136230044

take a gues

[night iris]

Classic

[drifting cedar]

guys why my CT not spreading bleeds?

do yall know maybe.

[analog field]

there is a fix with arcui if you scroll up

[real pike]

Do you have bleeds applied?

[drifting cedar]

yeah I got them applied to boss then when adds spawn I spam ct but nothing...

how long does the CT "remember" the bleeds? does that even make sense what i'm asking even.

[analog field]

If you hit a mob that has bleeds it spreads them to two others

but all have to be in range and hit by ct

[drifting cedar]

ohhh

ty man

[night vessel]

but how? i can choose another segment yes but it wont display it right

[true tusk]

Possible best world rogue on M+ like sin rogue

[analog field]

lol

I mean this is a bit exaggerated

[runic hinge]

I was the best once

[haughty flicker]

Yeah I'm the best m+ sin rogue so he can't be

I just dont play it bc I dont want to embarrass people

[runic hinge]

(I was never the best but I was top 100)

[subtle tundra]

i was rank 1 once..

[true tusk]

I said it was possible because professional players don't play sin rogue in M+, since they don't, he's still first as the player like sin rogue with the highest IO

[analog field]

Yeah but he didn't even have 4k last season

[runic hinge]

I was there

[analog field]

It is clear that there are some players better than him that cba playing assa

[subtle tundra]

yeah me

jk

he is better than me...

[haughty flicker]

Tony would beat him in a fistfight

So hes the better rogue

[true tusk]

Probably, but since nobody is strongly supporting and playing sin rogue on M+, then we have to stick to the actual data

It's sad data, maybe... because no one in sin rogue took 4k

[analog field]

We have to acknowledge when data is skewed though

I was like top 80 or something

I wouldn't call me top 100 in the world or something

[soft shell]

guys is assa fun in m+ ?

is it hard to multi dot pulls

debating between assa or sub

[true tusk]

It's fun and easy

[soft shell]

the one draw for me , is assa has good single target i think

so i want to pump

[true tusk]

Same shit in all specs, similar damage overall with some changes on playstyle

Actually rogue its on the floor

[soft shell]

sub looks fun bursting but shurikan into black powder seems lame

assa i get to crimson tempest

[latent copper]

guys a question what Does Kingsbane and Deathmark exactly do on AOE? - Both are in generalö single target dmges but what they do on aoe? i cant spread blees with it so its caustic splatter what is in aoe stonger with Kingsbane and Deathmark or only with Kingbane and Deathmark a solo talent?

[true tusk]

CT it's easy to play now, you put bleeds on your focus and later stay on range to adds for spamm CT

[soft shell]

so i dont CT my primary target, only adds that spawn taht i want bleeds on?

[true tusk]

CT now works like combo points generator and spreads your bleeds

[true tusk]

Start in stealth, use garrote, fan of knives (this will almost always be the case on m+), rupture, your cooldowns if it's a hard pull, and spam CT

[winter garden]

i miss sudden demise :<

[true tusk]

And then a fan of Knives and Envenom like a possessed person

[true tusk]

It's still there, but the place they've put it isn't profitable at all

[winter garden]

yeah that's why i said i missed it :/

[night iris]

Not sure but I just feel incredibly weak, 246 ilvl compared to when my mage was around this

[normal mist]

Hero class vs forgotten class

Figures

[true tusk]

I still think it should be where Shrouded Suffocation is. Especially if the current premise was to remove stealth as part of the rotation....

And it would also provide a significant improvement in DPS

[royal lantern]

my RL is from london

he has irl Rogue stabbing experience

[coral ibex]

YE GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT STAB WOUND M8

[faint summit]

lmao

[wraith knot]

I showed my brit friend my crafted dagger (he doesn't play wow) and he said "Typa shit you see in brixton"

[ember condor]

what should i look when comparing my logs to other people? im illiterate about logs

i just want to learn what im doing wrong

[jade hemlock]

what is different?

[last skiff]

[shell plaza]

[latent copper]

guys a question what Does Kingsbane and Deathmark exactly do on AOE? - Both are in generalö single target dmges but what they do on aoe? i cant spread blees with it so its caustic splatter what is in aoe stonger with Kingsbane and Deathmark or only with Kingbane and Deathmark a solo talent?. Maybe u got an Link where its exactly explained

[coral ibex]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#how-to-play-assassination

[spice spire]

Ty nooj

[coral ibex]

https://klipy.com/gifs/swag-pose

[west crown]

@balmy condor I’m sure you’ve been asked this before but would you be interested in taking the Rogue Dev position if you had a chance?

[royal lantern]

based

[buoyant herald]

They don’t really have [class] dev positions by all accounts

Multiple people work on different classes, different people work on design and tuning etc

If only it was that simple 🙄

[haughty flicker]

Its me

Im the rogue dev

[jolly stirrup]

Damn, for a 2 raid day guild we done pretty good

[runic hinge]

Yeah okay you’re blocked

[coral pivot]

Is anyone else having an issue that they can't see duration on their Garrote CDM? I do currently use AyijeCDM, but it worked on the patch before we could see apex talent

I see that some don't have an issue

[coral ibex]

its an issue with how ayije cdm is written

you can do a lua change to fix it

[balmy condor]

In a hypothetical world where I am anywhere near qualified enough for this imaginary position as a “rogue dev” and was offered the spot, yes

[west crown]

Well it doesn’t seem like they have anyone currently qualified enough.

[fluid oak]

maybe designer instead of dev

[balmy condor]

Blizzard devs are genuinely some of the smartest mfers I have ever met idk. It’s one of those situations where you’re just having small talk and even from the way they do small talk you just feel it in your gut that you’re a dumbass

I am not smart enough for that shit

[coral ibex]

but rogue isn't exactly how i like it so the guy in charge must be a fucking IDIOT

i am very smart

[slate birch]

real shit

[west crown]

Blind aoe —> st. Beyond my understanding

[coral ibex]

are you under some kind of delusion that "smart" people never make mistakes and "stupid" people exclusively make mistakes?

[slate birch]

i wonder how much of the rogue or any class design is being impacted by higher up decisions made outside the class designer team tbh

[coral ibex]

i shitpost about no changes xd but like

[fluid oak]

like what, that rogues must be shit?

[coral ibex]

i question the logic of getting mad about spec tuning as a good use of your time

instead of posting in discord about how stupid you think the devs are, go touch grass

you'll feel better

[coral pivot]

Based comment

[slate birch]

no just like overall dseign, imagine they implement an idea that works, but it gets scrapped due to outside decisions

[coral pivot]

Doubtful since each department has no clue what the other is doing

[coral ibex]

i post with the worst of them but im not deluded about the size of my influence of john rogue the rogue dev

[royal lantern]

if they are smart, why is the class im playing not top dps? clearly they dont play their own game!

checkmate shill

[coral pivot]

Encounter designers don't talk to class designers

[slate birch]

im not saying encounter

[spare carbon]

tuning today

[coral pivot]

What I mean is that higher ups also have no clue what is going on with different classes etc

[sand elm]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-final-fantasy-7-ffvii-ff7-ff-vii-gif-209599928883383183

[frosty cedar]

ill do it. ill make us a 90% melee auto attack spec

that shit is sgoated

[strange onyx]

Its ya boi

[jolly stirrup]

[balmy condor]

#subtlety

[strange onyx]

):

[spice surge]

Whispor da booly

[strange onyx]

Assa is not my home until I get puzzle box

[fallow canopy]

Get to the AA mines buddy

[storm forum]

Farm those 2s buddy

Also does the snapshot stuff change our default talents? Cause we weren't taking imp gar for the light cleave raid build, do we take it now?

[balmy condor]

You should probably take it because most of the fights end up being more st than usual

[royal lantern]

i got the spire feather today

and like

[balmy condor]

I updated builds already, should be taking it

[royal lantern]

im thinking about using it over puzzlebox

fuck puzzlebox

[strange onyx]

Yo, babe. Cook me up a build for dragons mythic tyvm

[royal lantern]

isnt that just the cleave build

[balmy condor]

Just make sure you cancel macro the debuff

Into all your abilities

[balmy condor]

I am reviewing the scriptures for dragons and paladins

You shall have your knowledge, loa of misinformation

[strange onyx]

Arigato, bud. Did you kill flying dog and saladbar?

[balmy condor]

Today

Maybe

Hopefully

[strange onyx]

I love that for you

[balmy condor]

Or I’ll crash out

[strange onyx]

say hi to me if i drop by in the stream

[balmy condor]

I will not

[strange onyx]

now thats misinformation!

[solid loom]

I'm clearly missing something and I'm not sure what. I was looking up loot drops, and everything is saying "Edge of the Burning Sun" is the best mythic dagger, but Krick's Beetle Stabber gives crit and haste, whereas Edge of the Burning Sun gives haste/mastery. Can someone explain to me like I'm 5 pls xD

[strange onyx]

There are no more bis

thats are so fluctuating

what is BiS today for your char is not BiS tomorrow

Just get BIG ilvl

[fallow canopy]

[graceful bane]

Is it worth making a cancel aura macro for the envenom buff to get the apex energy roiling so you do not to wait the timer out of the envenom buff?

[solid loom]

Yea. My ilvl is good, I think. I'm a casual player and already at 265. Just trying to get a little edge here and there over my guildmates so they are more likely to invite me to stuff xD

[haughty flicker]

If homeless catgirls could do it so can you

[coral ibex]

craft a 285 dagger for main hand, dont worry about chasing specific dagger drops

bis lists are just ai seo fodder

[solid loom]

Ty!

[strange onyx]

Dragons got hands

send help

[snow kindle]

!impgar

[prisma monolith]

Improved Garrote Snapshots
Since June 2016 when Improved Garrote was added as an effect to Subterfuge, it has never snapshot stats. This is almost guaranteed to be a bug.

Currently Garrotes cast during the Improved Garrote window are snapshotting tick damage from Agility/Mastery/Vers. What this means is that you should Puzzle Box/Potion, then afterwards vanish and re-apply your garrotes.

See the Opener Guide for more information.

[real pike]

The bis list is actually super helpful for me

Otherwise how else would I justify any bis rolls on loot

[storm forum]

If I want it and it has crit and/or haste on it I roll BiS and put something like "tied for BiS" on it

[waxen oyster]

you hit bis on everything

and expect lootcouncil to read your droptimizer sim

[real pike]

We don't have loot council

[waxen oyster]

what

so bis everything

[iron thorn]

regularly sim your character to know what items are best for you

[analog field]

I mean bis is only logical for trinkets and maybe jewelry

and any cantrip that might be available

[real pike]

The classic low end casual CE guild

Priorities for certain very rares etc but no loot council

[analog field]

I don't think I have found a guild not doing loot council

[coral ibex]

so people just roll need and hope?

[storm forum]

My guild is low end casual-ish CE and we have a loot council but 85% of the time it's just "this is an equal upgrade for everyone, let's just go off rolls."

[royal hazel]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[royal hazel]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[real pike]

Nah we use rclootcouncil with extra options

But just bis / upgrade / catalyse / offspec raid / offspec m+ / transmog

[normal mist]

Transmog is way too low on that list

[real pike]

It's in reverse order

And some different options for tier

[analog field]

This is loot council though

The way you said no loot council we thought you just ffa roll

[twin hull]

what buff to take as sin rogue in algethars?

[real pike]

No it's an app that has it in the name

Addon sorry

It's not a loot council

[analog field]

yeah but someone makes a decision no?

[real pike]

Sim

Or just be lazy and take crit

[real pike]

No

We just have the roll categories I mentioned

And highest roll wins

From the highest category

[analog field]

hmm ok

I mean most guilds do something like this

[real pike]

Then we do this for very rares

[analog field]

but if for me it is like 2% upgrade and for you 0.1 and we put both bis we just roll?

[real pike]

So higher tiers get priority but still down to rolls within the tiers

[real pike]

Yeppers

[analog field]

kinda weird to not have someone to make such calls

[real pike]

Never seen an item be loot counciled

[analog field]

we are kinda chill too. and figure it out between raiders

but someone has to have the ability to make such decisions

[real pike]

We do upload wishlists but no decisions

The thing is an item might be a bigger upgrade for someone because they've not put as much effort into keys or whatever

So it's not fair they get rewarded and someone else punished cause they farmed harder

[analog field]

Yes I get that , but on the other hand if we want to progress we need good gear on all.

[real pike]

And that is why we are WR 700

[analog field]

I am usually one of the highest ilvls but I can understand why this ends up not in my favour

[analog field]

Yeah I am on a similar lvl a bit closer to 1000

[real pike]

But we have decided to run the guild that way

[analog field]

most of the items we just roll too because who cares

[hasty prism]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[real pike]

Loot allocation is one of those things where there is no 100% fair and optimal solution

Just gonna pick a lane and go with it

[analog field]

but let's say I think it is kinda griefing if I have crafted dagger and you haven't and one drops to not have you take it

[analog field]

yeah that's true too

[nimble tartan]

i love deciding all the loot for my guild

[hasty prism]

yo is anyone having trouble showing the garrote and envenom timer on the cdm bar?

[nimble tartan]

its a fun lil minigame

[hasty prism]

like along with your other cooldowns

[analog field]

Do you have ayjie?

[hasty prism]

not on the buff bar

yeah

[analog field]

yeah it is an issue

[hasty prism]

dam

[analog field]

for ayjie

[strange onyx]

Midnight falls buffed, but we not nerfed. We live another day bois!

[hasty prism]

ill just track them as buffs for now ig

[humble verge]

[pliant remnant]

[shy sorrel]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[vale shore]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[velvet ridge]

!ilvl

[supple girder]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1486352553166901328/drops.png

[forest whale]

Am I a total noob? I just watched Shindig's video on Assa and he said you always use these 4 poisons.... Do we not use instant poison anymore?

[balmy condor]

deadly poison does the same damage as instant poison, but also has a dot on top

amp poison does the same damage as instant poison, but also buffs envenoms

and both deadly/amp poison are debuffs, which instant poison is not, so you get benefits from lethal dose

[forest whale]

Ahhhhhhh I forgot AMP shares with deadly and instant.

Turns out....

I am a noob.

Mb.

[balmy condor]

poisons that deal damage are lethals, you get to pick 2 of them

[humble verge]

hello whispyr

[latent kernel]

Apex talent should’ve given 3 lethal

[balmy condor]

hello uber

[humble verge]

how are you bud

[balmy condor]

I'm okay I guess

[humble verge]

we lost out on the hof page

cause of the chinese API being slow and displaying us as 181 instead of the actual 211 we are

[balmy condor]

yeah but you still got the achieve

pog

[humble verge]

yea i mean

like all the 300 other mickey mouse guilds

[balmy condor]

me today

yippie!!!!!!

[humble verge]

how many bosses yall got

i got to stand in for like

2 pulls on dragons

then pulled out

LMAO

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-gif-20669459

[fallow canopy]

me and 2 warrios on dragons seeing all the range

[humble verge]

nvm

theres like

600 "hof" kills now

so 400 mickey mouses

[lucid rune]

are we still spamming CT on mass aoe? no env on how many targets?

[ashen scroll]

!impgar

[prisma monolith]

Improved Garrote Snapshots
Since June 2016 when Improved Garrote was added as an effect to Subterfuge, it has never snapshot stats. This is almost guaranteed to be a bug.

Currently Garrotes cast during the Improved Garrote window are snapshotting tick damage from Agility/Mastery/Vers. What this means is that you should Puzzle Box/Potion, then afterwards vanish and re-apply your garrotes.

See the Opener Guide for more information.

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-draft-owen-draft-war-gif-24972708

[sand elm]

how much better is internal bleeding over canny strikes in general in m+?

[latent kernel]

Need to sim it on dungeon slice bc sim still showing canny strikes better for me

I just took like the top 3 builds top people in m+ are running and simmed all 3 of them in dungeon slice to see which is best

[sand elm]

i was just curious so i was looking over the most common talents taken in dungeons on warcraft logs and canny has 80%+ pickrate, but the guide says IB is better

[latent kernel]

Could be better depending on stat weights etc, the problem is both talents are super close and competitive so to say one is definitely better doesn’t rlly work in all scenarios

Same vibe as saying generic catch all stat weights

[sand elm]

yeh i get that. i was just curious how close it was

[latent kernel]

For me it was within like 1k dps

Like super close

[sand elm]

just checked and its the same for me. canny is just under 1k higher

figured there mustve been something to it as so many people were using it

[latent kernel]

Guides are good framework but not always 100% accurate to blindly follow

[latent kernel]

Would recommend looking at gem and enchant recommendations, they’re also extremely close and mine were drastically different than the guide

[sand elm]

oh i have. was talking to whispyr about them yesterday

thankfully i dont have to replace the 2 gold acuity enchants i have

[sand elm]

ofc ofc

[thick sable]

What fight style are you guys simming at for raid since nothing is really ST?

[balmy condor]

you still sim ST

[coral ibex]

vora

let us go

[humble verge]

what dis

myffik kill or

[coral ibex]

ye

[humble verge]

fakk yu

[coral ibex]

sad 80 bc my guild are not pumpers

[humble verge]

give me degger

[coral ibex]

we kill during enrage

[humble verge]

oomf

i mean

we also killed it just before enrage

[coral ibex]

i cranked the opener

[humble verge]

[coral ibex]

YEA I KNOW I SUCK OK

[humble verge]

no bro

we sucked together

and my guild started paladin prog today

[coral ibex]

kind of a fat opener...

[humble verge]

your guild must be ass if youre top damage for that long

[coral ibex]

[humble verge]

[coral ibex]

ur tellin me bro

we had to optimize melee uptime to kill vorasius

[humble verge]

i mean i get insta removed by like

[coral ibex]

multiple 10+% enrages

[humble verge]

hunters, dks and warlock

[coral ibex]

our top geared hunter just got poached by a top 30 guild

its joever

[humble verge]

i mean i did actually do mechanics on vorasius so

[coral ibex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HqA9XZ3P2g4mdVNp?fight=12&type=damage-done

[humble verge]

bro parses only cause he plays assa

[humble verge]

it do be like that sometimes

i mean

[coral ibex]

my guild is full of aoe padding andys bro

[humble verge]

i got poached from a shit guild, to a less shit guild in Nerub

[coral ibex]

i have to unironically be the boss dam coper

[humble verge]

as in non CE to CE guild

[humble verge]

bro, our ww got flamed on the monk discord

[coral ibex]

[coral ibex]

it be like that

[fallow canopy]

ethical damage you mean

[humble verge]

[golden loom]

I only got beaten on vora by op classes like devourer dh, boomkin and rogue

[coral ibex]

do you guys think there's any cope value in going mind numbing poison on chim for the fear casts

[golden loom]

I was playing it due to the double rogue situation, the real op ability there though is kidney shot!!

8 second stun who balances the game?

[coral ibex]

chim chimmery

count it

[fallow canopy]

Curse of tongue is better i think but idk

[coral ibex]

the fakest hof ever

[coral ibex]

nah kidney is actually full bis

[fallow canopy]

It is

Unironically

[balmy condor]

gratz

happy for you

[fallow canopy]

Bud is rotting on stream

Going through the phases of despair

[coral ibex]

dw we havent killed sally yet

and we got a gaze

im not getting it tho

i forgot to put my % inc for it

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8xCXHr3B9d4V27fJ?fight=6&type=damage-done

im coping!!!

[fallow canopy]

No dragons kill today

[fallow canopy]

@balmy condor grats lmao

[balmy condor]

ty

[ripe blaze]

what talents would you go for vanguard ?

[coral ibex]

m+ because im not in and so ill be doing keys and watching the discord stream

[fallow canopy]

atrophic will get us in trust

[lethal turtle]

Not really that actually matters

So many kills people reaching enrage

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/fatebound/EAOFFVURRUVUVZiBRCUUNUVVBVFlFGSEVNBUFFVVVUBE

[coral ibex]

yea we killed very late

got a full 2nd potted dm

[coral ibex]

gz big guy

[keen raven]

tbh to fix rogue I think they need to redesign asa to old asa

rogues biggest issue is in 2-3 target cleave and i feel like thats where old asa excelled in

[coral ibex]

would need stronger bleeds i think

and then completely redesign ct again

[latent kernel]

i just want exsanguinate back, and i want CT to spread it

it was such a dopamine hit seeing the numbers pop up so quick

[fallow canopy]

[last iris]

exsanguinate rogue was BiS

[latent kernel]

honestly just remove the double bleed damage effect from DM and just make it so it makes our bleeds and poisons tick faster

that would be so fun

bleed everything up and then it just explodes stuff with DM

[wind condor]

Think sin is the play for mythic paladins, progged as sub tonight and shit was ASSSS

Like barely beating bear tank

[bright hemlock]

should i be pretty much crafting 1 dagger no matter what

[coral ibex]

F

did not kill saladar tn

no 4 box

too many ppl dying to tank lines

[golden loom]

Dw its irrelevant anyways cause I looked in your vault and saw a myth puzzlebox

[coral ibex]

[oak tangle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1486352553166901328/drops.png

[fallow canopy]

can you look into mine?

[stuck lodge]

@frosty cedar ayo how do you have a bracer gem in your rank 1 H chimmy kill?

[coral ibex]

he proc'd a socket

[stuck lodge]

oh it can like just randomly happen?

[waxen oyster]

if its m+ gear yeah

or vault

[fleet whale]

is eye of midnight ring good? I just got it from the delve weekly quest

[plush oasis]

I was a traitor for a moment and tried out some sub. What do you mean the single target rotation is literally three buttons?

Sin m+ buff when

[rugged basalt]

Yes

[golden loom]

3x swords cause you open vault in wrong loot spec by mistake

[fleet whale]

Seems really nice. Granted it’s just champion level it still was at 6/6 and has two gem slots

[solar wyvern]

Lowkey think bench is the play

This shit is so ass

Tho i havent gotten to execute yet hmnge

[past bobcat]

How was it

Sin cooked?

[solar wyvern]

Its hard to ever evaluate sin until u get some time in execute

Like i kinda kept up with arms war and ret pal

But i was also the 4th melee in a fight that has 3max melee chars

So i was on the ranged soak

Which let me tell you

Is hell on earth

Cause youre 100% gambling with shadowstep

[past bobcat]

Think fight gets better on reset with nerfs?

[solar wyvern]

100% easier ye

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1486352553166901328/drops.png

[mild sluice]

should i envenom b4 start deathmark/KB?

[balmy condor]

Yes

Otherwise you don’t have snd or envenom up at the start of kb

And you’re just applying way less poisons

[rugged basalt]

gm

manifesting blessed vaults for everyone

If I get dagger or wrist I’ll go fuck myself

[analog hedge]

just wondering, with tier set for sin

[coral ibex]

tomorrow i will get myth gaze of the alnseer in my vault

[analog hedge]

"garrote can now apply poison", does this mean u can spam CT instead of FoK after getting tiers?

🤔

[balmy condor]

you can, but you shouldn't

CT doesn't actually proc it

and it's on cast

not on tick

so the damage it gives is entirely worthless

[analog hedge]

ah so u have to roll that 25% chance to land

icic

thankies big man

[balmy condor]

np

idk what 25% chance you mean

[analog hedge]

the chance to apply the poision

[balmy condor]

oh, sure

CT just does that naturally

but everything has poisons basically instantly in aoe anyway

[analog hedge]

nod nod

[balmy condor]

you press 1-2 ct's and it's good

[jolly stirrup]

Dagger ist good no?

[analog hedge]

the last time i played is df s3 so i forgot, u cant get mythic raid stuff on m+ vault slot right?

🤔

[balmy condor]

m+ vault slots are for m+

[rugged basalt]

Since I crafted it’s kinda eh

[analog hedge]

figures ig, welp pray for tiers then ig

myth track tier will be nice

[balmy condor]

you can get tier in any vault slot

[rugged basalt]

Yeah

I had tier helm or shoulder in m+ slot last week

I think raid row was higher ilvl though? 266 v 263 I could be wrong

[analog hedge]

i got a hero shoulder tiers from my delves slot lol

i was quite surprised

i thought delves vault are to put it kindly "trash"

[rugged basalt]

If you have 2k io or 1.6k pvp you’re guaranteed, you’d have 3 catalysts charges on reset

[analog hedge]

yeah i got my 2k already

waiting for reset in a few hrs for my 4/4

[rugged basalt]

Very nice

[analog hedge]

nod nod, im happy with it. just a bit surprised its this fast

i remember it being hard back in df

and uuh, idk why but i feel like this season m10 is easier than previous m20...?

[rugged basalt]

Took me a while in tww but I was so unready for m+ back then. The tuning for dungeons paired with me just being more confident worked out well this season, so far

[analog hedge]

only sott and sky is a bit hard ig

[rugged basalt]

I find algethar and sky annoying

[analog hedge]

ooh i agree, especially alge final boss

its like playing touhou at the final few % before u down it..

[jolly stirrup]

We use crafted dagger in OH anyway so

[rugged basalt]

For first mythic I think it’s kinda wack

My waist and feet are lowest but I’d have to hunt for a hero track then

[sand elm]

biggest issue for groups ive had is the first pack ethereal side in nexus point

either tanks pull too much, healers cant keep up, or its just me on the barrels

[analog hedge]

sott first pull is a bit tricky, tanks needs to know what theyre doing or the pt will 100% wipe

u cannot kite the champs or they will dash toward the tank and applies bleed haha

[rugged basalt]

Nxp is giga chill for me

While tanks gathering I’m clearing the tripwires

[analog hedge]

lol xD

[rugged basalt]

I do hope they buff non bm monks..

[sand elm]

probably more likely theyll just nerf brm

[analog hedge]

i havent tried 10 nxp yet, ill see if its hard or not ig

[sand elm]

tried it on 12 earlier and the tank got deleted
next group, healer couldnt keep up with the damage and we died and abandoned

most stuff in there is fine, but the ethereal side can be rough for aoe damage

[analog hedge]

the only 10 ive timed so far is only aa pos magt sott and wsp

LOOL

well i couldnt comment much for anyrhing beyond 10

[sand elm]

easiest one ive done this season is probably skyreach

[analog hedge]

they rarely want to pick up ass anw

[inner atlas]

Is there a workaround for the implacable cdm bug?

[analog hedge]

😭 😭

i usually have to sweet talk the pug lead

🥹

[sand elm]

managed to time 13 academy earlier. bird boss feels like it takes several business weeks to die

[analog hedge]

hows the last aa boss on 13?

xD

[sand elm]

mmmm. so long as the puddle placements are fine then its generally ok

[analog hedge]

i feel like my brain will explode if the whole room is touhou

[sand elm]

if the group keeps them sort of grouped and u move to the other side of the room, u can manage it

[analog hedge]

ooh icic

well i usually pug, so it might be a bit hard to coordinate that ig

[sand elm]

hardest boss in there is probably the arcane elemental i think

[analog hedge]

vexa?

[sand elm]

yeh. its a pretty solid healer check so they need to be on the ball

[analog hedge]

i assume cause the soak hurts at 13?

[sand elm]

bombs hurt a ton, loads of aoe damage

feint is ur friend in that fight for the groupwide aoe

and have crimson vial hooked directly into ur veins

[analog hedge]

📝

lmao

[sand elm]

its funny really
back in dragonflight, the tree boss was always the blocker for groups. now its probably the easiest boss in there lol

and CT spam cos of the adds is juicy padding

basically go plus ultra with infinite energy

[analog hedge]

yea, lmao i remember the bleed from tree is so punishing back then

now its like whatever..?

[sand elm]

pretty much

least from the groups ive had the healer didnt seem to struggle at all with it and the add dies really quick

unlike before where u needed an ambulance after a tick or 2

[analog hedge]

😭 😭 😭

also the vacuum from last boss is so forgiving tbh

i remember back in df, u have to immediately move after the suck

now u still have a whole second

[sand elm]

yeh u can take a leisurely stroll on ur way out

[analog hedge]

is m10 during tww also this lenient or is it just weird tuning for midnight

cause i skipped the whole tww due to irl stuff

[sand elm]

this season is much easier than tww season 1

imo

[thorn crater]

i think most classes are good with mastery and these balls make it easy to deal with huge packs

[analog hedge]

icic

[sand elm]

it is a juicy bonus

[thorn crater]

it's a lot

[analog hedge]

welp overall im not complaining, still a bit rusty after a year of not playing, good warmup season

[thorn crater]

so dmg gets amplified

lets see next week

[sand elm]

im surprised even with all the discussion about how easy the season is compared to before, theyre nerfing some of them

[thorn crater]

random pugging and 3 chesting an 11 shouldnt be a thing imo

[sand elm]

it feels like the difficulty ramps up quite a bit above 10s

not just cos of the loss of the mastery buff

12s hit a lot harder than 10s do. compared to a 10 to say a 7 or 8

[thorn crater]

i mean that is normal though

difficulty should increase exponentially not additively

as it does

[sand elm]

hard to say with the stat squish

[thorn crater]

ngl though "upgrading" items to get 6 more agility... doesnt feel too nice

[onyx rock]

We also started into M+ with more Gear then in TWW.

[thorn crater]

i guess that 6 agi does more than we think given the track record of wow though

[sand elm]

did sott earlier. theres a pack near the 3rd boss that has 2 casters in it. if both of them umbral bolt a dps or the healer, it feels like the days of hall of attonement 1shots all over again

surge from the arcane elementals in academy is the same

[thorn crater]

that also happens at caverns if you mass pull at the end

[thorn crater]

cheat death ftw

[sand elm]

had so many groups where the group of skeletons just deleted the whole groups when their shields went at the same time haha

[sand elm]

thankfully that shitass spirit rend dot is getting nerfed tho

[thorn crater]

how do you like sin in dungoens btw

i cant get into groups with it so i am just playin dub atm

sub

[onyx rock]

Sin is insane tbh

[sand elm]

i have a hard time being invited as well. even with 265ilvl and 2.8k rating
honestly its fun. i really enjoy it. however its biggest issue is we're punished for smaller pulls, so it looks like we're worse than we actually are

usually topping bosses tho which is very nice

[onyx rock]

Im Top 7 World on Sin (noone playes it) and i have no problem getting invited at all

[thorn crater]

sub has kinda the same issue with 3 targets though

i just told my tank to stop being a pussy and pull 5+

262 im at 98k dps overall for the dungeon consistently not sure if thats good or not but it feels good

[sand elm]

having our aoe burst be basically nonexistent really shows, but if u chain pull and u eventually take over all the other dps, u dont feel like ur not contributing

[rugged basalt]

I hope not. Bear druids are hot ass to play rn

[sand elm]

i laughed when i heard after all the nerfs they cant even keep aggro anymore

poor guardians but fucking lol still

[rugged basalt]

They literally can’t maintain threat

People are cooking weird builds that don’t use apex talents and it’s either troll or troll

[thorn crater]

so i guess i should give sin a go on a 10 or something huh

[sand elm]

all in all, i like it tho. its fun to play for me. honestly i wouldnt mind them buffing caustic back up to its beta numbers but we`ll see what blizz ultimately decide on

[buoyant herald]

Honestly there’s no worse place to be than MILES head of everything going into tuning season

[onyx rock]

Yes

[rugged basalt]

I don’t have trouble being accepted, but I’m ilvl 268

[sand elm]

if u enjoy it id say its worth playing it

its more than capable for the most part

[thorn crater]

more than the shitty spam spam sub tbh

[sand elm]

plus, boss damage slaps

[thorn crater]

its like playin a slower outlaw spec atm

just send everything

tbf sub boss dmg isnt bad either

[rugged basalt]

They’re both fun

[sand elm]

i saw mistweaver are doing the same and ignoring their apex

[thorn crater]

with 4 set ofc

[rugged basalt]

Yeah but the game is ignoring half their talents anyway

[onyx rock]

Also you always have good aoe dmg even without dm and kb. Its very consistent.

[sand elm]

i know, its just funny
they spend all this time cooking up these fancy new talents for us and theyre so bad people dont even use them

[analog hedge]

i think the mist one is fixed soon(?)

[rugged basalt]

I didn’t see blue text on it

[sand elm]

no idea. i just saw theres builds that dont use it

[analog hedge]

maybe im tripping ig

i dont really pay attention to other class

ctrl f assasination

see 0 result

close tabs

[rugged basalt]

I skim bc I do read pve changes

And hate watch some classes

[sand elm]

if anything, my 2 gripes with sin atm is just the fucking cdm implacable tracking and thistle tea being auto use. fix those 2 and id be content

[analog hedge]

hatewatching a blue post is wild

but i get it

😭

[onyx rock]

Tbh noone plays sin in keys. There is Zerocool and then there is nothing. Im Top 7 with "only" 3,1k Rio right now so i would not take these builds so serious tbh.

[rugged basalt]

I haven’t struggled with thistle auto use personally

[sand elm]

sorry i was talking about mistweaver not using its apex

[onyx rock]

Ah ok

[sand elm]

[rugged basalt]

I just have it on my bar so I can see it and I decide how to play accordingly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1380450334056644658/1399054955339583598/six_cats_colored.gif

[analog hedge]

yea since TTea doesnt gives mastery anymore

idm it being auto tbh

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-wilde-zootopia-nick-wilde-dancing-gif-16098522368647277514

[analog hedge]

if it still gives mastery then id probably be a bit annoyed

[sand elm]

itd be such a nice qol to have a toggle on tea for auto use
i dont care if im called bad but i sometimes lose track of keeping my energy above 30 and use one when i dont want to

[rugged basalt]

I still dry shiv every now and then just to feel
Something

[analog hedge]

SHAIAHSKIAHAJSKS

DRY SHIV

😭 😭 😭 😭

[runic hinge]

Tea talk in current year

[sand elm]

im glad it doesnt so it can be used purely for energy management but i just hate the auto use

[analog hedge]

nod nod, tbh understandable

[rugged basalt]

When are you using it?

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[plush oasis]

Surely in the kb window.

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[rugged basalt]

Like, if it’s getting auto used when you’re low on energy

I’m not a numbers guy

[onyx rock]

Just ignore it

[sand elm]

the worst times it happens for me is when im starting to run low on energy but im about to let implacable run out for the energy regen and i misread my energy and i was just under the threshold and then get tea + energy proc which i didnt want

[rugged basalt]

Oh I see

[sand elm]

i like to save tea for when im running on absolute fumes cos rng decides to fuck me and i have to muta 3 times twice in a row

[rugged basalt]

I just be rawdogging my combos, if I run out of energy I scream

[sand elm]

i scream when im out of energy, no tea, and have to sit there pooling cos my implacable stacks are at 0

base energy regen is pain

[static glacier]

I’m still trying to cook a way to track implacable

Is there an addon that can track a specific spell id buff

Separately from cdm

[rugged basalt]

Someone had an arcui workaround

#assassination message

[strange onyx]

Did you kill the flying dog and the salad bar?

[balmy condor]

dog yes

salad no

[devout steppe]

Whyspir, we re starting mythic vanguard tnight is there a world where assa is the play

[balmy condor]

if your guild has no other ranged dps, sure yeah

assa is the play for rogues

just happens that rogue is not the play

[devout steppe]

Im the only melee on the line up yeah

[strange onyx]

Big up

[devout steppe]

Its gonna be suffering on this one i can tell

[balmy condor]

not really

[strange onyx]

Feels like dragon be a bit suffering aswell

[strange onyx]

Medium down

[balmy condor]

had to keep the slurs in my head during chim

[strange onyx]

Jeez, that bad?

[balmy condor]

straight mental damage progging this fucking thing

[strange onyx]

Just missing kicks?

[balmy condor]

our rdps seemingly unbound their kick button yeh

that and people just playing with monitor off and not doing the phase swaps

[strange onyx]

Crimes

[balmy condor]

first pull where we hit kicks it died

just took infinity pulls to get there

[strange onyx]

Ranged and kicking

Name a worse combo

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna be fr, I am convinced half my raid still doesn't understand the mechanics

[strange onyx]

Ours did quite well on Salad bar atleast

[strange onyx]

For kicks? xd

[balmy condor]

or dispels

or phase swaps

or add prio

or anything really

[winged quail]

Rdps need a giant glowing weak aura with air horns and air raid sirens to stop casting and use their kick. Unfortunately that no longer exists

[balmy condor]

[rugged basalt]

Isn’t the only new mechanic the swap and distancing phased people

[strange onyx]

Praying for as many trinkets as possible in the vault

[balmy condor]

kickmaster whispyr

[runic hinge]

With that many kicks I bet you’d love mythic plus

[strange onyx]

With that many kicks you gonna be a star on salad bar

[balmy condor]

I ain't kicking shit on salad eat my ass

[strange onyx]

kicks on salad for the entire night

[balmy condor]

I will proudly have 0 kicks

on salad

ranged problem

not a melee mechanic

[midnight mist]

did you guys do 100 pulls on chimerius or what

how is it possible to have that many kicks

[balmy condor]

^

[midnight mist]

whatdehelly

[balmy condor]

yeah

show some respect

you're talking to a raider in the worlds worst chimaerus HoF guild

[midnight mist]

surprrised you did 32 kicks in 38 pulls tho

god gamer

[balmy condor]

well

look at how many of these pulls

are not <50%

[midnight mist]

which boss are you on now

killed dragon or what

[balmy condor]

I just showed you that we did 40 pulls on chim

[midnight mist]

killed saladar ?

[balmy condor]

and you think we killed dragons

[midnight mist]

bro ..

are you 3 days

[balmy condor]

4 day for first 3 week

[midnight mist]

bro ..

you killed saladar at least

its ok

[balmy condor]

yeah....

killed salad....