or today
#assassination
humble verge
for the 6/8
but idk wher eto signup loll
oh nvm
im too late
he already filled lol
thorn thorn
💀
humble verge
well
ill just get into a 4/8 then 😭
he had posted the run like
12pm yesterday
and i didnt even see it
looks like he filled it rq
waxen oyster
is your guild not raiding
waxen oyster
💀
humble verge
i also want the fucking mount so
humble verge
we already did like 5 reclears
well more like 4 but
waxen oyster
only 5 though
humble verge
yeah
they wanted to be finished quickly
like
most people in the guild are pushing 30s
and dont wanna spend their summer farming
so its reasonable
waxen oyster
i feel 1-2 days of farm isnt bad
humble verge
i have tried to get in touch with other national guilds
humble verge
i feel 1-2 days of farm isnt bad
yeah but how are you gonna farm when half your guild is off to Honolulu 
ok thats just an exaggerated example but
waxen oyster
nope
humble verge
no it is here
waxen oyster
smh europeans
humble verge
atleast for some corps
where i worked before you had to take out 3 weeks
well atleast 2
waxen oyster
na moment
normal mist
around 22 holydays a year EU
waxen oyster
”generous” pto is 10 days
normal mist
or something like that
humble verge
just get unlimited PTO
normal mist
They actually do nap in the afternoon
waxen oyster
french breakfast is cigarette and coffee
humble verge
hm 😭
humble verge
wtf
but how much did u sell the myth for
damn wtf
4/8 is cheap
its only 1,2m
thats a steal
even for a VIP run
waxen oyster
i got 2 actually
waxen oyster
but how much did u sell the myth for
2m?
thorn thorn
i sold the ansurek one though
The only mythic mount I considered buying a boost for was the fyrakk one
And that was just so I could tame the bird on my hunter
💀
humble verge
mount boost is like
used to be hella expensive
idk how much it is rn
WTF ITS ONLY 5,5M 😭
we're like what
thorn thorn
I considered it but waiting for it to be legacy content sounds like a much easier solution
humble verge
how many weeks are we into the tier
waxen oyster
and when was this
kinda
waxen oyster
its been 13 weeks
yeah i mean i’ve seen guilds full clear in 90mins
timid haven
Is there a new yap session discussing the tier of next season from @timber pagoda ?
haughty flicker
i dont think that guy has any idea
hard timber
he might be the assassination rain main but no one has given him a chance, always in the shadow of Whispyr
waxen oyster
Theres not much to yap about tbh
timid haven
Did I tag the wrong whispyr lol
waxen oyster
first week is super subject to change
Idk why people want changes anyway
sin is good rn
whispyr’s actual acc got hacked so
pearl mauve
just read through pins, but the Fatebound set makes KB 45s and DM 1min if we do the usual DM KB / KB / DM KB, and we get a chance to roll the good coin to get extra 15/30s cdr or did I not get how it works ?
haughty flicker
you'll always get lucky coin in the opener because of 2p
waxen oyster
chances are you’ll play ds
haughty flicker
so the tier set is just functionally changing you to 90/45 for the whole fight
waxen oyster
regardless
haughty flicker
unless you die so dont die
normal mist
Did I tag the wrong whispyr lol
Whispyr is MIA for now, discord issues.
waxen oyster
unless you die so dont die
dying as rogue 
pearl mauve
so the tier set is just functionally changing you to 90/45 for the whole fight
ah so having the buff of that lucky coin makes your CDs 45s and 1m30, thought it was reducing actual CD by 15s/30s when you get the coin
red schooner
dying as rogue <:garf:1320173032743899157>
If we weren't meant to touch the swirlies why did they make them so pretty looking?
red schooner
Before patch? Scary fire. After patch - enticing red circle of friendship
waxen oyster
can we make outlaw the better keys spec again so we can confine the m+ players to that channel.
🙏
sharp viper
can't contain the 
humble verge
nah cause then i wont be able to be good at the game
ill actually have to swap to outlaw
stone oracle
sorry for the bad timing question, but how do you best sim for m+ as assas?
humble verge
since my guild believe the best spec is the best
normal mist
sorry for the bad timing question, but how do you best sim for m+ as assas?
dungeon slice
stone oracle
kk thanks
waxen oyster
also delete archon
timid haven
Whispyr is MIA for now, discord issues.
Thanks for the info
waxen oyster
Most people try to compare their weak champ level pieces to find out which is 0.2% better.
Instead of just getting some ilvl || and bitches ||
ocean quiver
Instead of just getting some ilvl || and bitches ||
is there a guide on how to properly pool?
ocean quiver
single target
waxen oyster
hands off keyboard
ocean quiver
actually?
ocean quiver
so just don't attack when below 50%
yeah ofc that
what about the buff, I noticed on my bars when I envenom I have a buff going down not sure what it is tbh
waxen oyster
Well sometimes you should, if you need to refresh ct
also likely not ideal to not env when you have dn instead of dsm
Thats just envenom buff
waxen oyster
but also pooling barely matters
ocean quiver
oh
waxen oyster
It’s basically negligible except in raid
ehh even in raid its like
unless you’re starved before cds
majorly whatever
ocean quiver
sometimes i'm like super low on energy to the point iI phyiscally can't press stuff
ocean quiver
Okay fair enough, just wasn't sure if I needed to do anything or whatever
main bridge
love me some nice funnel
waxen oyster
love me some nice funnel
if only it was as strong as dh’s
main bridge
how does DH funnel work?
i feel like mage is the god of funnel but i don't know much about DH
waxen oyster
They mark a target after hitting it with their hero talent
and any physical damage they do to other targets does stuff to the marked taeget
main bridge
oh dang that is nice
ocean quiver
i feel like mage is the god of funnel but i don't know much about DH
boomie biggest funnel class
ocean quiver
💀
main bridge
the OG one button rotation
waxen oyster
main bridge
yeah so i've heard
waxen oyster
So basically if you do anni into deathsweep combo
all the extra slashes of sweep
deal quarry damage to main target
waxen oyster
both havoc and vengeance have it
runic hinge
sometimes i'm like super low on energy to the point iI phyiscally can't press st...
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
thorn thorn
Man
ocean quiver
In raid it is fine
okay just curious
thorn thorn
had enough of you
bro?? i just got here
ocean quiver
you gonna hate on me again
main bridge
that's the problem
main bridge
thorn thorn
you gonna hate on me again
And what makes you think that comment was for you 
Did I make it too obvious
thorn thorn
havoc has 2 playable
hero trees
Why is thee now havoc talk in my rogue discord
main bridge
trudat
thorn thorn
Also loosely related to this
In DF S1 I posted in the dh discord about mover vs no mover builds and which one was better and it sparked a massive debate
I never got my answer
waxen oyster
Yeah i mean i mostly talk to dh oldheads
and most prefer momentum builds
if you talk to the male elf players its diff
main bridge
male..elf...?
thorn thorn
Cuz it does matter
thorn thorn
If you see a male draenei in your key there is a 95% chance they are a griefer
Idk why
Thats just the way it is
main bridge
waxen oyster
real
the only benefit male nelf/belf dh has is it can be shirtless with chest mogs to showcase tattoos more
thorn thorn
Same thing with male pandaren
If they are male pandaren and it isnt a monk, there is a 9/10 chance they are a griefer
No idea why, its just a thing that happens
main bridge
i feel like i never even seen pandaren
royal lantern
If they are male pandaren and it isnt a monk, there is a 9/10 chance they are a ...
our disc healer is one
she holds the healing togheter by herself lmao
runic hinge
If you see a male draenei in your key there is a 95% chance they are a griefer
they also keyboard turn
waxen oyster
tbh women who play male toons
royal lantern
all her characters are male pandaren
waxen oyster
are usually aight
royal lantern
its funny
waxen oyster
at the game
panda is comedy relief at least
Male orc i have trust issues if you choose non hunchback
waxen oyster
its not about racials
its the fact you look at male nelf and say “i like how this looks”
ocean quiver
I never said it was
waxen oyster
💀
ocean quiver
I just think they should
main bridge
most of the reason i end up playing tall races is because gear looks the best on them
waxen oyster
im just annoyed they made seperate races
for customization options
maghars
dark irons
normal mist
prices will go nuts
ocean quiver
goodjob i'm nelf
main bridge
i'm pretty sure that potion is stupid because the people that want to min max with shadowmeld are not going to want to waste a battle potion on it
but maybe there is a strategy i am not seeing
ocean quiver
you time 10s
I timed 25s
we are not the same
it will be used in my routes
twust
waxen oyster
it’ll be used as much
ocean quiver
that way I can play dwarf and have nelf ability
ocean quiver
every dungeon with me
waxen oyster
it will be used in my routes
Nothing I love more than a tank insisting on candle king miniboss skip on a 12.
and 1-2 people cant do it
ocean quiver
omg real
we end up sitting there for like 2 minutes
then eventually they pull the pack and die and we have to res
such a waste of time
then by the time we get to end of dungeon we missing like 10% 💀
ocean quiver
I agree
waxen oyster
If a tank yaps about route
main bridge
it doesn't require anything special to do it
main bridge
they've probably had bad experiences with people that don't understand what they thought was obvious
ocean quiver
I've made the jump every single time without fail
waxen oyster
im just lazy and step whoever makes it first
ocean quiver
I do that if we have a dh that beat me to the jump
thorn thorn
before a 12 key
Yapping about routing only matters if he is gonna do some monkey shit that people dont normally do
And keys 12 and below are the prime keyzone to do some monkey shit
royal lantern
most of the reason i end up playing tall races is because gear looks the best on...
then why do clothes look bad on me
ocean quiver
then why do clothes look bad on me
then take them off ;)
thorn thorn
then why do clothes look bad on me
Our FBI agent says otherwise king
proud dust
freaky ravenholdt
main bridge
then why do clothes look bad on me
need to lose weight
haughty flicker
Rich coming from a dude named muffin
ocean quiver
freaky ravenholdt
thorn thorn
https://tenor.com/view/plankton-spongebob-lips-close-up-gif-13579466202414445214
I swear you always have this gif on quickdraw
main bridge
Rich coming from a dude named muffin
everybody loves a good muffin, people of all body types
ocean quiver
I swear you always have this gif on quickdraw
thorn thorn
ocean quiver
thorn thorn
wut
royal lantern
need to lose weight
im underweight
prime hull
Anyone else running spark burst in keys on the belt? Even with the macro it felt like it was unstealthing me decently often, and spark burst sims equal to charge current in dslice with more ST
even without the unstealth it does cringe stuff like pulling mobs that are ccd
royal lantern
they kill it next reset anyway
tacit hedge
Is there some sort of damage rng involved with Mugzee? I feel my rotation is really consistent but sometimes I get 2.5 or 3.1 mil overall damage
prime hull
Is there some sort of damage rng involved with Mugzee? I feel my rotation is rea...
If you are cleaving goons or not and how quickly the goons die matters.
Maybe sometimes the cages are too far and you dont get cleave, or sometimes you get caged so you cant cleave
tacit hedge
Maybe sometimes the cages are too far and you dont get cleave, or sometimes you ...
So depending if I can cleave the two goons makes that much of a difference? I wonder if holding kingsbane specifically for when they pop up is worth it then
prime hull
not really
if you dont lose a usage sure but you need to know your approx killtime to guarantee that
tacit hedge
if you dont lose a usage sure but you need to know your approx killtime to guara...
That makes sense since I noticed a lot of high parses seemingly ignore the goons
prime hull
parsing on that fight is really down to:
- killtime
- do you get picked for first cage
- does your raid let you stay out and cleave last cage (not likely)
- do other dps let you cleave off rocketeer for a while or do they die quick (minimal)
tacit hedge
parsing on that fight is really down to:
- killtime
- do you get picked for firs...
That's good to know but that sucks lol. I'll always be a rouge but I wonder if other classes have that kind of dependency to outside factors
prime hull
yeah every fight is like this for every class
do you get picked for mechanics? especially at an akward time like during opener lust or mid cds? if so, bad parse
main bridge
Anyone else running spark burst in keys on the belt? Even with the macro it felt...
do you mean charged bolts?
winged sun
main bridge
well the macro in the pins is for charged bolts. maybe you mean you changed it?
main bridge
well then obviously the macro for charged bolts will not work for that. and yeah you don't want to run charged bolts for that reason
it will pull random shit too
it's terrible
prime hull
im using the macro when i used charged bolts... ok nvm
haughty flicker
tacit hedge
do you get picked for mechanics? especially at an akward time like during opener...
Not for the first cage but the following ones I do
waxen oyster
Not for the first cage but the following ones I do
Getting any cage will lower your damage.
That's just how the fight works
Ideally you also want a kill time that lands around a dm set ending
tacit hedge
Getting any cage will lower your damage.
At least I know now. I was having a hard time figuring out that variance in damage
Especially with the goon cleaving
waxen oyster
That's every boss
honestly
actually getting the dry shiv envenom spattered onto rocketeer did swing my pulls sometimes too
prime hull
shiv only increases your envenom damage to the target itself and the bonus dmg doesnt spatter iirc
waxen oyster
no it does increase spatter damage pretty sure
also depending how you hit things you could also lose your dry shiv window if you get the tank rocket
tacit hedge
also depending how you hit things you could also lose your dry shiv window if yo...
That always fucks me lol
waxen oyster
Yeah what can you do
tacit hedge
Yeah what can you do
Wipe and try again 
main bridge
we go agane
waxen oyster
It's just unlucky timing that you forgot how to play the game
on pulls you got mechanics
fathom flax
has the belt pin been updated post change
hollow river
i don't believe so
main bridge
it was never really good because of the bugs
tacit hedge
it was never really good because of the bugs
Wasn't that what pulled mobs?
brazen pine
So now it's back to useless
I don't know about useless. The mastery buff already simmed higher for me than charged bolts anyway and didn't yank me out of stealth. So I don't really see it as any great loss.
sonic zinc
Wasn't that what pulled mobs?
no, it was proccing more than intended
brave comet
3k io demonhunter when he rage quit the key
he wouldnt have ragequit if he had used the one button rotation
worthy rose
3k io demonhunter when he rage quit the key
oh my jod
less than 900k has to be embarassing
shoulda asked him how much he paid for that boost
solemn echo
3k io demonhunter when he rage quit the key
For future reference you can typically right-click a player's portrait to copy their name, you should also be able to add the to the ignore list from there too
brave comet
oh that is very helpful!
ancient rain
hopefully fatebound becomes meta next ssn. this talent alone makes the spec feel much better
winged quail
All they need to do is change the fatebound talent that nerfs its self in AoE I swear
subtle tundra
in m+ it wont
its still very bad numeric wise and you lose the capstone between pulls
ancient rain
ik i'm the extreme minority here, but i don't m+ (only weekly no leaver) so what I meant is i hope its meta for raiding ^^
solar wyvern
its still very bad numeric wise and you lose the capstone between pulls
Hmm this makes me want to check what happens if u lose the capstone, does deathmark gain 30 seconds again? Or does it stay the current 1.5m cd until next cast, cause if thats the case losing coin is very minor since you can refresh it guaranteed next deathmark
Ofc the reduction in aoe shit will make it unviable, but yknow, if that ever gets changed
red schooner
is this trinket sim bait?
Nah, it's pretty good when used with lingering darkness
gilded rune
Nah, it's pretty good when used with lingering darkness
okay got it I was about to say havent played rogue all season until now and just noticed it pretty much
out of warrior jail next season
zenith elm
I'm sad to say, i will not kill gallywix 🥲
scarlet orbit
Thats sad. But why did you stop raiding after mugzee?
barren zenith
am I fucking cooked? testing the fatebound set in ptr and my DM cooldown is 1min if I drop combat after bursting
has to be a bug right
zenith elm
Thats sad. But why did you stop raiding after mugzee?
I did not?
zenith elm
am I fucking cooked? testing the fatebound set in ptr and my DM cooldown is 1min...
seems pretty broken
scarlet orbit
I did not?
English is not my main language how its very obv there 😄
Was wondering why you not will kill galli and if its because your guild stopped raiding
barren zenith
yeah I'll test again but if I don't drop it it's the normal 1min30s
but if i drop combat it seems to be getting an additional 30s reduction lol
zenith elm
No they dropped me out of the comp
visual sun
Unli DM we are so back
red schooner
No they dropped me out of the comp
Boss ain't that bad, there'll be time for reclears
zenith elm
Yep i hope so haha
red schooner
We've hit p2 3 times and got him down to 14%, after you get past the bad overlap the boss is pretty free.
zenith elm
i'll see how it goes
past marten
If your guild is any good, they give players who sat a reclear for ce
Even if they don't want to do reclears after ce
barren zenith
can someone check if I'm cooked or not cause I'm both shit at fatebound sin and also just sin and rogue:
works normally if I don't drop combat (1m30s)
zenith elm
Hahaha if it doesnt we are basically ret pal
barren zenith
30s kb 1min dm 
humble verge
@thorn thorn i actually got a spot on the 6/8 boost 
glad mortar
!Gally
buoyant herald
What do you want that command to tell you lol
glad mortar
What do you want that command to tell you lol
How I should damage adds in Gally lol
Is the best approach just to focus target Gally for caustic? Or does anyone try to do a Darkest Night switch? Presume you stay on Gally, but I heard that caustic applies strangely in this fight.
buoyant herald
I can’t imagine a situation where it would be worth your time to swap tbh, they get kinda nuked these days anyway
I think most target swapping logic applies to gally too ie just don’t
Gally does have a weird hit box though
shy axle
!fok
prisma monolithBOT
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
nova kelp
I'm sad to say, i will not kill gallywix 🥲
you got a while yet if you're close at all
zenith elm
you got a while yet if you're close at all
We'll see but they dont consider reclear i think
only dangling it to get me to stay
nova kelp
I believe in you
warm vortex
I’m still here with my 8/8H and 3/8M
nova kelp
I believe in you too
maybe not to kill him by the end of the tier
but I fucking believe in you
snow hamlet
flat mesa
Hey, whats the best choice to sim for raid LOU? 5min patchwerk?
balmy condor
yes
warm vortex
but I fucking believe in you
Im not palying Mythic at all haha
Im just a casual chill guy that goes for M+ n heroic and such
warm vortex
yes
ALSO HI WHISPYYYYY IT'S BEEN SO LONG
Wnated to just say hi and hope your goooood
balmy condor
been a long week
sharp viper
grim palm
@balmy condor and the next one with all these nerfs/ buffs to disc going to be an arsenal of pain hopefully not too long of a strain on you.
warm vortex
been a long week
Ah shit, why's that if i may ask? Or is it more for personal reasons
sharp viper
<@167090536602140682> and the next one with all these nerfs/ buffs to disc going...
do you assume that hasn't started already?
@balmy condorwhich belt mod are we going to use next reset?
haughty flicker
balmy condor
Ah shit, why's that if i may ask? Or is it more for personal reasons
I got targeted in a phish and my pc had a rootkit
grim palm
Pretty sure whispyr has his other priorities in check ie boomers and cookie sales
balmy condor
and uh
scarlet orbit
I hope you didnt lost stuff which was not replacable
balmy condor
d4 has a thing on tuesday
balmy condor
I hope you didnt lost stuff which was not replacable
idk, should be good I think
sharp viper
I got targeted in a phish and my pc had a rootkit
just out of curiousity, how did you get phished?
warm vortex
Probably by a catfish or carp im guessing
nova kelp
Phishpyr
warm vortex
A carp
A MAGIKARP???
sharp viper
also you usually use nets or fishing rods for fishing, dunno if live bait is legal in whatever country?
rare jackal
been a long week
how is the art project going 
balmy condor
<:monkaScheme:586578756127424568> just out of curiousity, how did you get phishe...
an irl friend from college with a compsci degree got into my gmail at the end of covid when they came over to my house in 2021, we ran a bunch of keys in dragonflight, they moved to turkey in november of 2024 for work, reached out to me about an image project they were working on, basically an upscaling/rendering thing they did that they trained on screenshots of wow characters and then used to upscale their prot paladin, downloaded a file and got a rootkit that just hijacked the shit out of my discord
sharp viper
damn was your irl friend the perpetrator or did he fall victim, I don't get that
balmy condor
damn was your irl friend the perpetrator or did he fall victim, I don't get that
still unsure
if it wasn't my IRL friend, then I got social engineered to hell and back
cause then the next logical explanation would be that they chatGPT'd the entire history of the discord to get a bunch of info they would then use to fabricate a reasonable backstory about our time playing wow together and their degree
humble verge
well im surprised i improved my dps on cauldron by this much
balmy condor
while it was the same rootkit that everyone else got, it wasn't delivered to me in the same way
so like
very sus
humble verge
we do love BL
haughty flicker
which one of us did it i wonder
humble verge
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864972408959270913/1385640938159870003/...
it was me
im sorry whisp
haughty flicker
ok well yeah that does kind of point to them
rare jackal
TÜRKYIE TÜRKIYE
haughty flicker
dont think a scammer would go out of their way to pretend to be in turkey after getting the account
balmy condor
I mean the scammer was in turkey
but april 2021 was end of lockdowns when they came over to my house a couple times
and they also moved to turkey
so
I mean the timeline addsup
I just don't understand why or how
normal mist
Whispyr never opening a link ever again
balmy condor
their job seemed to be going well, we talked briefly in february
and they were happy
rare jackal
I just don't understand why or how
foreign intervention to destabilize the west
balmy condor
like if it was hijacked account scamming me with GPT, I don't get how they had a log in from 2021, and there's like very difficult to explain events
and if it was my irl friend the timeline adds up but I don't understand the motive
haughty flicker
oh i didnt notice the sign in from 2021
balmy condor
idk, the whole thing is insanely strange
haughty flicker
yeah thats pretty wild then
vestal wren
could both be unrelated?
balmy condor
wdym
vestal wren
well the one sign in was from 2021
haughty flicker
that was when the friend was at his house
balmy condor
and the same device is the one that hijacked me on the 15th yes
vestal wren
so maybe someone did compromise your pc back then
vestal wren
but maybe the entry point was just the same
so the hacker just used the already existing pathway
haughty flicker
very strange situation all around
vestal wren
in the end, if you got things sorted
its probably not that relevant anymore, just scary
balmy condor
I did not sadly
was mostly a fit of rage
because the rootkit survived the first round of cleansing and idk
I was like fuck it, it's a 1TB SSD from like 2017
I already wiped it clean
there's nothing on it
I'll just get myself a bigger SSD and then snap this one in half in case they're in the fucking silicon or some shit
cut it and threw it away
fuck that noise
balmy condor
i would expect a rootkit to be in UEFI/BIOS
that's what I thought but idk
new ssd, new windows install
everything good
balmy condor
I've been back for a day or two now but way too much d4 work to catch up on
vestal wren
I've been back for a day or two now but way too much d4 work to catch up on
did not know that you play d4 actively
balmy condor
no one plays d4 actively
vestal wren
XD
balmy condor
game is barely playable
red schooner
Yeah, well, I'm bad at noticing things. Just ask my raid leader when swirlies happen 
vestal wren
typical blizz ^^
balmy condor
but alas, if I don't write the news I don't get paid
no matter how shit the actual news is
visual sun
Whispyr backstory > Legacy of Arathor
balmy condor
you know how dead diablo 4's gotta be
for me to write an article
about a jar-sized cat version of lilith?
haughty flicker
royal lantern
I mean I cut an SSD in half with a chefs knife
balmy condor
blizzard is legit just copy pasting the season mechanic with a different font, releasing 1 item per class, not balancing anything properly, and then calling it a season
best barbarian build, big physical barbarian, with 4 weapons
guess
fucking guess what the best build is
haughty flicker
spin
balmy condor
kinda but not really
haughty flicker
red schooner
Is it one where you wield one weapon in each limb?
Just tie a big axe to your feet idk
balmy condor
you use these cause it makes talic spawn dust devils that are stronger than any dust devils you spawn
red schooner
Kick your enemies in half
balmy condor
and then pump the shit out of summon damage
haughty flicker
lmao
balmy condor
we're going in s9 btw
s6 they gave us earthquakes, it was stupid op
s7 they were like "earthquakes were a bit much, we're tuning it down"
s7 earthquakes were still by far the best mechanic for 3 different builds
dev livesteam for s8 they go "we really want to lean into the physicality of barbarian, earthquake has been too good"
rework a unique to specifically buff whirlwind damage
best whirlwind build just spawns earthquakes for a third season in a row
s9 PTR comes around, they nerf earthquakes for a fourth time now
best whirlwind build just summons ancients to cast earthquakes and twisters
vestal wren
to be fair, it sounds like what you expect from a barbarian in terms of gameplay
balmy condor
nice job blizzard
I mean barbarian gameplay in d4 right now is "grab all the shout skills and then pick a skill that you can use to spawn earthquakes"
the skill tree is pretty straightforward and somehow they still managed to make 3/4ths of the skills entirely unplayable
it's insane
unique items empower a single aspect of a build, like the uniques will say WHIRLWIND GOOD NOW USE THIS FOR WHIRLWIND, HEY, WHIRLWIND!
and then still suck
vestal wren
guess its time for a whirlwind buff
balmy condor
it's almost impressive at this point, it feels like they have to actively spend time thinking of ways to avoid balancing skills
balmy condor
there's skills on the tree that are so abysmal that I don't even know what the hell they do
and I'm the fucking barb writer
the hell does this even look like
balmy condor
poe 2 might be the worst game I've played in the last 5 years, only because I'm not sure if I should consider diablo 4 a game
but poe 1 is good
sharp viper
blizzard is legit just copy pasting the season mechanic with a different font, r...
good wow summary
balmy condor
brother wow copy paste is so much better
the d4 livestream of season 9 they had some random dev on camera that clearly was not PR trained and was clearly uncomfortable being on camera
radiant raven
Oh no, poor guy
balmy condor
and she just blurted out "players might be familiar with this gem, cause it's just bane of the stricken from diablo 3!"
radiant raven
I'm amazed they've not added a Paladin-style guy after so much was.. hinted at. The expansion felt like a damp squip and nothing has come of it since.
balmy condor
and we're sitting there in the newsroom watching it live
and all of us are just like
did she just....
are we
what is happening
balmy condor
bro she did it 3 more times
radiant raven
They need to get the guy doing the D3 seasons involved, stat.
balmy condor
legit they were showing off s9 stuff
and every 5 minutes
she would go "this one is familiar"
and we're like dude you gotta just shut the fuck up at this point
she also kept saying "customization" and "choices" so often she ran out of synonyms, became self-aware of it, and then started doing it as a bit
looked straight down the camera and went "chat, say it with me, customization"
that livestream was the longest hour and a half of my life
like it clearly wasn't rehearsed at all, and it felt like they just pulled devs out from the cubicles to sit on a couch and yap about stuff
plush remnant
Is hybrid or bleed build better in key levels around 12?
normal mist
!builds
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
balmy condor
which is cool and all, gives it a more personal feel and less corpo but like jesus fuck man at least a little bit of prep if you're expecting us to sit there and listen to it for over an hour
radiant raven
Gotta get the person who's really passionate talking about their weird corner of development.
balmy condor
it was less of a developer livestream and more of a highschool book report powerpoint presentation
balmy condor
Gotta get the person who's really passionate talking about their weird corner of...
I think they honestly need less of that
radiant raven
More needing a general overview kinda person?
balmy condor
cause they're already yapping for 20 minutes about shit that poe wouldn't even bother tweeting about
I watched the poe announcement like a week later
and they had like a solid 10 minutes worth of trailers more
like 4x the content
and had the presentation wrapped up in 2/3rds the time
I was amazed
vestal wren
brother wow copy paste is so much better
did not know we are in a race to bottom
balmy condor
race to the bottom? sounds like a good patch name for midnight
vestal wren
haha
glacial crypt
did not know we are in a race to bottom
There's no race when @balmy condor is involved
radiant raven
Well, 11.2 is in outer space so it's all down from there.
vestal wren
because his pc is hacked, so he can't participate^^
balmy condor
I'm gonna teach the turks to play my character
it's not account sharing if I can't play on it right
vestal wren
he will be like
balmy condor
sharing implies multiple people
glacial crypt
Just get married to all of them
vestal wren
"wait, so you pay for my wow addiction?"
balmy condor
vestal wren
we just wait or illidan to return
humble verge
quicker than the full 8/8 hc boosts i did 😭
vestal wren
so he can free sylvanas from the world quest dooties in the maw
vestal wren
and reunite against the evil god that possesses misses feet pictures
glacial crypt
illidan and him return
Full send it, we need another illidan
radiant raven
illidan and him return
they voltron into Sardian
midnight mist
wtf whispyr is back again (for real this time)
haughty flicker
surely
vestal wren
wtf whispyr is back again (for real this time)
don't jinx it
glacial crypt
wtf whispyr is back again (for real this time)
Oh did he leave? Welcome back omg
midnight mist
Oh did he leave? Welcome back omg
ye he had enough of you
glacial crypt
ye he had enough of you
I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN YAPPING
midnight mist
I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN YAPPING
stop it you might make him leave again ..
balmy condor
Illidan was secretly the last titan all along and we need recruit the help of Sylvanas and Tyrande and Thrall and Anduin to fight a corrupted version of illidan in orgrimmar and he shows us a vision of a destroyed stormwind and the entire capital is under siege from these like purple guys and wait it’s just mists of panderia isn’t it
radiant raven
finally, we get the siege of stormwind raid that's been TOTALLY COMING GUYS IT'S A LEAK from at least 3 expansions.
haughty flicker
and then illidan commits war crimes and everyone says he did nothing wrong and was just based
radiant raven
Personally I think the last titan is milhouse manastorm
haughty flicker
wait he already did that
vestal wren
Illidan was secretly the last titan all along and we need recruit the help of Sy...
i did not play MOP, did hear good things about it.
Maybe the direction is not bad then
haughty flicker
Personally I think the last titan is milhouse manastorm
he's finally gonna finish casting
we are not prepared
balmy condor
i did not play MOP, did hear good things about it.
Maybe the direction is not ba...
You hear good things about mop the same way you hear good things about legion, people forget all the aids from that expansion
radiant raven
MoP or "Wherein garrosh builds the ultimate man cave under orgrimmar"
glacial crypt
You hear good things about mop the same way you hear good things about legion, p...
Yeah but normally by the end of the expansion it's actually good again
balmy condor
Also WoD and shadowlands makes mop and legion look way better than they actually were 
haughty flicker
ok but mop starts with you gunning down drowning sailors in clear violation of the geneva convention
so its a good expansion
radiant raven
Weird schedule of content releases, mandatory and grindy daily quests, killing a turtle who was just in our way, the almost year of Siege of Orgrimmar. Mandatory PvP victories to get the legendary cloak..
red schooner
Weird schedule of content releases, mandatory and grindy daily quests, killing a...
Mandatory PvP
vestal wren
You hear good things about mop the same way you hear good things about legion, p...
I give legion some leeway because it had banger dungeons and raids and introduced many of the modern wow systems like mythic+ and worldquests.
balmy condor
It’s like seeing a cream cheese bagel and going “oh a bagel, that’s aight, pretty good even”, and the next thing you get is wet grass and you go “oh man I wish I had that bagel, that was AWESOME”
red schooner
Also, Legion had the class halls and I really liked the class halls.
vestal wren
legion's main problem was legendary aquistition (outside of a undertuned first tier)
vestal wren
was a problem for like the first weeks
normal mist
We had burst of speed in MoP, best expansion ever.
balmy condor
And titanforging
glacial crypt
And legendary drops
silent compass
Just read the class changes and we get nothing?
vestal wren
because it gave mindless grinding a purpose
runic basin
assa will swap to critical chain too in ST ?
vestal wren
and people love to grind the shit out of m+
vestal wren
its a rly good rework tbh
silent compass
I love the look of that but assa feels so left out...
balmy condor
assa will swap to critical chain too in ST ?
What is critical chain
balmy condor
I love the look of that but assa feels so left out...
What’s wrong with assa
vestal wren
belt
runic basin
What is critical chain
belt
red schooner
What is critical chain
Belt effect thing
balmy condor
Oh
radiant raven
Hit/Expertise shit in moP lmao
balmy condor
Probably fine idk I haven’t rerun the sims
silent compass
What’s wrong with assa
I would have liked to get one or two buffs with that xD
red schooner
Charged is getting a nerf following its 141% buff
normal mist
I would have liked to get one or two buffs with that xD
but why
balmy condor
Charged is getting a nerf following its 141% buff
“Sorry, we don’t know how math works”
red schooner
I sent the sim and critical chain seemed to be better
Crit chain, spark burst and one other were within margin of error
silent compass
but why
As i said, i felt assa was left out with almost all the classes getting huge changes n such
red schooner
That was at 691 ilvl
normal mist
But we dont really are in great need of changes
balmy condor
Buff some thing by a billion thousand percent and then be surprised that it’s too much
normal mist
Spec plays well enough
red schooner
Though tbf I sent the sim with overwrites and I just guessed at how to apply the overwrites, so like
My numbers are probably so fucking wrong
glacial crypt
Poison knife buff when...
silent compass
Spec plays well enough
Would've been happy with some small increases xD
balmy condor
Though tbf I sent the sim with overwrites and I just guessed at how to apply the...
Hey that’s what we do too cause some of the spelldata is so spaghetti
balmy condor
Would've been happy with some small increases xD
Increases to what
red schooner
Hey that’s what we do too cause some of the spelldata is so spaghetti
I just put the overwrites in the header section and went, 'yeah, that'll probably do'
Critical chain - +1.0%
Spark Burst - +1.0%
Electric current - +0.9%
Static charge - +0.7%
Charged touch - -1.1%
Energy shield - -2.1%
Cauterising bolts - -2.2%
Thats what I got with charged bolts as base at 691 ilvl
vestal wren
Probably fine idk I haven’t rerun the sims
The overrides:
override.spell_data=effect.1231848.coefficient=9.1675
override.spell_data=effect.1232881.coefficient=0.3424
override.spell_data=effect.1232886.coefficient=0.1505
override.spell_data=effect.1232963.coefficient=52.9531```
And the copy/pasta for the belt (probably need to change gem id if you want to be perfectly optimal).Nothing particular, just wanted to see some stuff
vestal wren
sorry, if you already have them
balmy condor
Nothing particular, just wanted to see some stuff
Unironically you’re kinda the worst for that
glacial crypt
HAHA
balmy condor
At least the doomers point at something that makes them mad
normal mist
xD
balmy condor
sorry, if you already have them
I did not, thank you
normal mist
Not all bluetext is good text
red schooner
The overrides:
```yaml
override.spell_data=effect.1231848.coefficient=9.1675
ove...
Did I do it right by putting the overrides in the header section or did I fuck it up massively?
balmy condor
Did I do it right by putting the overrides in the header section or did I fuck i...
Should work in headers I think
lavish wing
I did not, thank you
what is the best type of sim, weekly, nightly or latest?
balmy condor
I usually put it in the 3 box, whatever that one is
red schooner
Should work in headers I think
I hope so, I just assumed, 'maybe this should go first cos it needs to affect stuff below it'
silent compass
I don't have anything that i wanted to change in particular, just would have been good to see some buffs that's all
vestal wren
You just want to see text in a blue font
I got you covered @silent compass.
[2;34m[0m[2;34mWhispyr's Discord profile misses cat ears, unacceptable.[0m
if you want buffs its because the class is lacking dmg, and we really arent
balmy condor
what is the best type of sim, weekly, nightly or latest?
I don’t see a reason to sim anything other than latest unless something omega broke and then you just use weekly until its unbroke
silent compass
I got you covered <@973763186559963206>.
```ansi
[2;34m[0m[2;34mWhispyr's Dis...
I wholeheartedly accept that
glacial crypt
They should change darkest night to be stronger to hold onto than the marks are to consume
lavish wing
I don’t see a reason to sim anything other than latest unless something omega br...
it rly is u... welcome back, sir
balmy condor
I got you covered <@973763186559963206>.
```ansi
[2;34m[0m[2;34mWhispyr's Dis...
Oh true
glacial crypt
I think people would love that
silent compass
if you want buffs its because the class is lacking dmg, and we really arent
Skill issue from my part then xD
normal mist
We do well in M+ content, we do well in Raid content
vestal wren
They should change darkest night to be stronger to hold onto than the marks are ...
Deathstalker needs a rework, its still such a boring hero talent design.
glacial crypt
aight the cat ears have been put on
What about your socks?
balmy condor
What about your socks?
nyet
red schooner
Not a true blue post, if it was a blizzard blue post there'd be 10 pairs of cat ears put on at once before being later nerfed by 90%
silent compass
Personally id like to see fatebound buffs cuz i love gambling
vestal wren
sandals and white socks, channel the inner german
normal mist
Personally id like to see fatebound buffs cuz i love gambling
have you seen next tier tier set?
glacial crypt
Deathstalker needs a rework, its still such a boring hero talent design.
Shiv applies 12 marks, 6 of which get consumed immediately
silent compass
have you seen next tier tier set?
Did not
normal mist
90sec DM basically fatebound
silent compass
90sec DM basically fatebound
Oh gotta read that rq
normal mist
check pins
nova aspen
ayee welcome back whispyr 
glacial crypt
Where did he go
red schooner
Where did he go
Turkey
lavish wing
Where did he go
he had some issues with Nigerian Prince
balmy condor
sandals and white socks, channel the inner german
brikens sind für die orthopädie, is doch logisch
silent compass
Gamba!
sharp viper
brikens sind für die orthopädie, is doch logisch
silent compass
Gonna try that out when ppl figure it
balmy condor
DU KOMMST JA SO KRUM DAHER SAGMAL
sharp viper
DU KOMMST JA SO KRUM DAHER SAGMAL
silent compass
it is, actually, not gamba
😭
vestal wren
it is, actually, not gamba
unlucky, i like gamba
sharp viper
balmy condor
unlucky, i like gamba
you can gamba on whether or not a sub ability works properly
balmy condor
although I guess it's not much of a gamba if the answer is always no
balmy condor
Whispyr why aren’t you purple!
cause I just came back
vestal wren
you can gamba on whether or not a sub ability works properly
tier set did not work on ptr, ill roll a dice before login in next time, maybe it works if i roll a 20
lavish wing
hes druid main now
barren yarrow
cause I just came back
Welcome back king
normal mist
i mean...
lavish wing
one button rota boomie
red schooner
whispyr feral arc
Isn't that whispyr on patch day when everyone asks what spec should I play?
scarlet orbit
tier set did not work on ptr, ill roll a dice before login in next time, maybe i...
Does the current sub tier set work rn?
balmy condor
i did see Whispyr go feral
vestal wren
Does the current sub tier set work rn?
the current tier set works
glacial crypt
Isn't that whispyr on patch day when everyone asks what spec should I play?
The moment this chat goes slow mode
sharp viper
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1385189903624572978/1385682661896360037...
rawr :3
red schooner
The moment this chat goes slow mode
Not again
vestal wren
the 11.2 one on ptr, works partly
normal mist
What is slowmode? 
vestal wren
but just say its not working for now
lavish wing
What is slowmode? <:AA_Umaru_Cool:853237575481163777>
assa apm
normal mist
real
red schooner
What is slowmode? <:AA_Umaru_Cool:853237575481163777>
Assassination outside of cooldowns
normal mist
based
final star
Single Target 
normal mist
@vestal wren does #subtlety go slowmode during big patch days too or is that a #assassination exclusive?
haughty flicker
bleed gaming holy
normal mist
ooooh
lavish wing
sub channel goes slow mode only when we r in a blue post... so never
vestal wren
#assassination just tried to be imposter and hopped on the hype train
i don't think #subtlety was in slow mode for long if even
just has not enough players currently
like season 4
glacial crypt
One of the guilds I was in used to disable everyone's ability to yap at all and close the channel for the night if we started yapping too much
vestal wren
logging was completely broken for subtlety for a month
and we had not outrage to a degree to justify slow mode
balmy condor
Single Target <:Susge:888573531468734555>
makes sense to me!
sanguine blades just doing a solid 90%
of the bleed damage you dealt
very cool
glacial crypt
Can't seem to find my exsanguinate button..
balmy condor
thank god
vestal wren
balmy condor
only off by a factor of 3
well now hold on a second
glacial crypt
We can only hold for so long
balmy condor
okay so if the sanguine blades replicated the bleed damage dealt + all the bleed damage that remained on the target when sudden demise popped
we're still looking at 52%
:icant:
oh
where did that go
I don't have an icant
thanks turkish hackers
vestal wren
I 🥫't
balmy condor
true
balmy condor
trying to make a german joke with like tischkante
but I can't make it work
man that sucks
glacial crypt
but I can't make it work
Try more you've got this
final star
germans are well known for their sense of humour so that makes sense
balmy condor
no I'm giving up on the bit
glacial crypt
Wow
balmy condor
do you have any idea how long it took me to curate my 200 servers of emotes
and they fucking left all of them
every single one
thats so aids
barren yarrow
Comcast is your enemy
balmy condor
it'll take me years to get all my emotes back
barren yarrow
Turks do be doing that shady shit
damnnnnn 200 servers of emotes. Poof just gone. Set up a gofundme for Whispyr.
glacial crypt
it'll take me years to get all my emotes back
Make a post on Twitter about it
Then make another one talking about how poisoned knife needs to be buffed thanks
balmy condor
Then make another one talking about how poisoned knife needs to be buffed thanks
I'll stab you
I hear that's what you guys do over there
glacial crypt
whats twitter?
Errr tumblr clone that failed bc the owner was stupid
glacial crypt
I hear that's what you guys do over there
Listen you can try but obviously I have a racial buff
prime hull
any bets on how long it takes for an invite to my first queued 19
vestal wren
Errr tumblr clone that failed bc the owner was stupid
oh, so its like X but less known?
prime hull
im thinking 2h
glacial crypt
oh, so its like X but less known?
:^)
prime hull
people dont invite unless you like like 6/8 dungeons complete on 19
vestal wren
probably need to bring your own key
prime hull
yeah mine is stuck at 17 since i got resil 18 this week so I kinda cant be bothered to push it up
vestal wren
unlucky
balmy condor
pugging 19's
prime hull
Yeah good thing im playing runescape on my other monitor so its not too bad i can queue for 4hs and not feel it
glacial crypt
Yeah good thing im playing runescape on my other monitor so its not too bad i ca...
Based
haughty flicker
ive actually thought of getting into runescape solely as a second monitor game lmao
prime hull
its super fun and i love it because i can wfh all day and chop trees and get xp while doing it
feels like im being double efficient
glacial crypt
ive actually thought of getting into runescape solely as a second monitor game l...
You're better off playing Pokemon as a 2nd monitor game
You'll have way more fun
prime hull
i do afk mining while playing keys ingame and got like 100h of xp so far, almost maxed the skill
vestal cliff
whispyyyyyyyy welcome back
glacial crypt
Over 100 hours and it's not maxed? RuneScape sounds wild
prime hull
mining takes like 600h to max or something
glacial crypt
What the fuck
prime hull
but i put in a lot more hours earlier so im close now
i have 106 days played and i only started last year
maybe a bit unhealthy....
but i kinda just afk skill all day ingame while i work from home or play other games
glacial crypt
maybe a bit unhealthy....
I wish I had that time to play video games wtf
What do you do for work?
glacial crypt
That's giga
I'm doing a web development degree rn
Praying it's wfh when I get a job in the field
indigo mulch
Its rough out on the market at the moment :c
Our company tried getting a junior not long ago and about 100 of them were senior's. Not sure whats going on.
prime hull
Yeah i kinda wanna change jobs but the economy is scary so i just stay with this one since its chill
buoyant pumice
!ui
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
pure moth
Yeah i kinda wanna change jobs but the economy is scary so i just stay with this...
This is where I'm at. Job security has me staying
hidden bay
do you have any idea how long it took me to curate my 200 servers of emotes
The only emote you need is this
haughty flicker
winged sun
@balmy condor welcome back whispyr, i think u forgot to give me purple too
@midnight mist wants one too
pure moth
cause I just came back
Welcome back
candid hull
!builds
prisma monolithBOT
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
grave sandal
on M sprocket I was running into an issue with energy so I recrafted my neck haste/crit and it helped a lot (I saw on lorgs top parse had a neck a crafted haste/crit neck), fixed my gems so alchemical chaos wouldnt cause my signet to hit crit
so I'm wonder why everything says just giga stack mastery and crit, it seems in single target haste has good value?
grave sandal
thats the other thing I was worried about if it would gimp the bleed build
in theory it hurts sudden demise?
balmy condor
haste speeds up bleeds
red schooner
on M sprocket I was running into an issue with energy so I recrafted my neck has...
Haste won't make a noticable difference with energy regen, we're kind of fucked single target. But we tend to like all stats to an extent so the best option is just to sim potential crafts and upgrades.
balmy condor
so haste would affect sudden demise the same as it would affect any bleed
more bleed damage, more sudden demise
grave sandal
aaah
zenith elm
so haste would affect sudden demise the same as it would affect any bleed
SECOND JESUS COMING BACK??
grave sandal
well I can say it felt a lot better 3% vs 11%
balmy condor
I doubt that
shy creek
Def feels better
balmy condor
yall cannot be serious
forest nacelle
i feel like any haste question is a sim question, idk why.
golden loom
1 extra cast per min pog massive energy gains
scarlet orbit
Did you miss us whispyr 😄
balmy condor
I shouldn't have come back
forest nacelle
wb 😄
balmy condor
I'm back for like 4 hours and it's already back to fucking haste brainrot
get new ragebait this isn't 2020
grave sandal
brb recrafting to more haste
shy creek
uou came back cuz you missed it i know
forest nacelle
haste brain.
grave sandal
auto tea might be the best change ever made
balmy condor
each percent of haste is equal to an extra 0.13 energy per second, do with that what you want
forest nacelle
so crit/mastery is better? 😄
grave sandal
one extra muti every minute, LOCK IN
balmy condor
so like 8% haste is around 1 energy per second extra
if you can notice that you need to like
re-evaluate what the hell you're looking at
thorn thorn
Daddy whispyr is back 