assassination

[humble verge]

oh

[worthy rose]

iirc just using /use will use both

[humble verge]

healthstone

i read hearthstone

[worthy rose]

LOL

no

i just vanish heathstone manually

when i need to roach

its worked many times for raiding when they wipe

i just need hte tank and healer to live long enough to pad the 10 seconds

theres also the vanish eating if youre taking fat damage

works great in mythics

[winged sun]

Time to watch silo

[worthy rose]

but would this macro work

for using healthstone before potion

[balmy condor]

I guess it would

[midnight mist]

you are watching @hard river ?

[winged sun]

Ye

He plays piano’s and shit

[worthy rose]

i just tried it no healthstone in inventory

it doesnt use the potion

fkn annoying

[thorn thorn]

Me when crimson vial

The elite dont wants you to know the crimson vial actually tastes like fruit punch

[thorn thorn]

Each time you post this the edit gets more intense

[fast phoenix]

i want to use my eye of kezan for any fight thats +5 mins or longer, and my mechano-core for shorter fights correct?

[humble verge]

ja

[fast phoenix]

cool beans just checking

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

[winged sun]

[hidden bay]

Time to spoiler you

[winged sun]

[restive glade]

anyone know if there's a wa that colors cps when its valid to consume deathstalkers mark and colors it when only valid consume darkestnight (was thinking today I could be lazier) (plus shiv mental math when it gives charges xd)

[thorny pond]

Mucho buenos

[vagrant brook]

there is no shiv mental math

[terse stone]

I'm trying to track caustic spatter, but it shows up on plater as mutilated flesh 🤷‍♂️

[balmy condor]

that's doomblade

you're not tracking caustic spatter then

[misty holly]

This brings up a good point. Should we be trying to spread doomblades for the 2% extra damage from lethal dose in aoe?

[balmy condor]

no

even without taking into account that fan of knives is simply superior in those situations

you're probably going to lose all that extra 2% damage just from the time you spent off your marked target

you lose the poisons spattering and hunt them down spattering for like 0.5 seconds

and that's going to probably be similar

[misty holly]

mouseover macro for mutilate, obviously.

[balmy condor]

incredible technology

W ragebait though

[fallow canopy]

do you mean it is not worth a global per mob just to spread 2% dmg amp surely thats' cap

[misty holly]

It would be beyond the skill level of an average player, for sure, but Im thinking mdi level technology here.

[balmy condor]

oh

you were serious

[vague widget]

Just thank you for the pins, because I was going to ask a trinket related question and instead will just disappear again.

[fallow canopy]

lol

[balmy condor]

you are unironically the best type of discord user

checks pins before asking question, doesn't stop just because the first pin didn't have the answer

reads it, recognizes that was the answer

quietly leaves

[buoyant herald]

"you're the best type of discord user, doesn't say anything and leaves" is the most based take

factual

[winged sun]

And thats why batman is the best discord user

He plays sin too

[buoyant herald]

you'd never even know he was in here right

[winged sun]

Correct

He reads pins before asking

[iron vigil]

I did read the pins but just asking. Which lesser helm enchant is everyone taking?

[buoyant herald]

TD / gushing / ritual

i took ritual because im a wuss

[winged sun]

I took void ritual cuz idk why

[iron vigil]

I dont want my TD pulling extra mobs

[winged sun]

Just play what the sims say and ur fine

For m+ u can just run void ritual the enchants literally dont matter rn

Too small effect

[buoyant herald]

ritual was the best on average, although given i play outlaw too i should probably grow balls and take TD

but yeah also it does NOT matter

[brittle shuttle]

ritual simmed better in slice and patchwerk for me

[balmy condor]

they all simmed within 0.2% for me

best to worst was 1.3 to 1.1

[terse stone]

was using the wrong lethal poison xd, ty!

[winged sun]

was using the wrong lethal poison xd, ty!

[thorn thorn]

[thorn thorn]

Hey whispyr what do I use dinar on ?

[fallow canopy]

[thorn thorn]

I was thinking maybe some outback

Or chicfila

[runic hinge]

I’ve never been to Outback

[fallow canopy]

what do they sell? burgers? I'm not in the us

[thorn thorn]

Many things

Burgers steaks salads chicken

Alcohol

[thorn thorn]

You arent missing much imo

My favorite kind of restaurants are the mom and pop ones that look like the owners/staff actually live there

Like a Waffle House almost

[fallow canopy]

so like big boys BK or mc'donalds etc?

[thorn thorn]

Kinda

But the food is slightly higher quality

And much more expensive

[fallow canopy]

Cool, the times I've visited the US I didn't really try much fast food, I think just mc donalds, chick fila and five guys i think.

And chicfila cleared hard

[thorn thorn]

ya chicfila is my favorite

lots of controversy over the companies beliefs but the food is good

I like popeyes too

[dense shadow]

what sort of IL is recommended for starting mythic dungeons ?

i see a bunch of M0s sayng 635 required

[winged sun]

I tanked +10 on my 611 vdh without enchants almost 2 chest

U can do any m+ it just depends on how experienced you are

Especially that your a dpser it wont matter

[junior aurora]

i went to chilis tonight

mid af

[runic hinge]

Wrong

[junior aurora]

always heard it was better than the bees

id put them on par

[runic hinge]

Idk. It’s better than the bees

At least here it is

Maybe I’m overrating them both cause I’m hungry rn

[storm forum]

I've somehow never been to chili's

I've gone out of my way to try and go before and things come up to stop me

One of them closed down for pipe repairs

The universe is conspiring against me

[runic hinge]

You need a triple dipper asap

[thorn sorrel]

Smart

[rotund oak]

ive run 7.8klm my belly is screaming for breakfast

also good morning

[thorn sorrel]

What trinkets are you guys running these days? Is house of cards/pacemaker still the combo?

[coral ibex]

signet/magnet for me

[rotund oak]

core amplifier/house of cards

[thorn sorrel]

I have to resim my trinkets, stuff has been changing for me. Like now sim seems to like haste a bit more than it did before

[wise plume]

signet/pace

[thorn sorrel]

Copy. Ty guys.

[rotund oak]

yw fam

also all DHs should burn in hell

[thorn sorrel]

😂

[worthy rose]

i used to be the roach god back in my prime in wotlk

vanish eat/vanish hearth

so many ways a rogue can avoid dying

[runic hinge]

Good morning

[rotund oak]

Pet Stu for me

[runic hinge]

When I get home I will

[turbid wraith]

Should I always make a dry shiv work or if procs dont line up well should I just skip it and send both to kingsbane

[balmy condor]

if it don't line up you skip

[turbid wraith]

Is there any hold period

like ~5 seconds

[thorn sorrel]

This is a good question. I’m also curious.

Coming back after a long break

Thanks for the clarification

[wind jacinth]

Just joined discord - can I ask spec specific questions here at all?

[thorn sorrel]

Everyone has been very kind here. A lot of very skilled players that are happy to help.

[rotund oak]

you can but before everything u can read the wowhead guide

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

many ppl here to help

[drifting cloud]

well with mutilate rng and blindside on top of it yeah it can vary alot, just have to think ahead during that time

[shy creek]

WoWhead generally has 99% of the answers people ask questions about, really recommend reading through it

[drifting cloud]

worst case you just dont do it, not the end of the world

[shy creek]

But if you are confused, or aren't sure where to find smthn, can ask here

[thorn sorrel]

Copy, that makes sense. Holding is better correct?

[thorn sorrel]

Ok got it

[drifting cloud]

its only like a 1% dps increase to dry shiv

and thats over a whole fight, not just 1 cd rotation

[wind jacinth]

I've had a look for an answer to this question but I didn't spot anything. It's in regards to Kingsbane and Lingering Darkness. Does the 30% nature damage buff warranty possible holding on Kingsbane till Lingering darkness. All guides point to using CDs together, but I was just wondering about that as an alternative?

[shy creek]

You use deathmark with kingsbane always

The reason deathmark becomes so strong is because its damage is directly tied to kingsbane

So holding it for the extra 30% is a loss over the massive DPS u get from duplicating the damage

[wind jacinth]

Deathmark duplicates Kingsbane? Thought it was only lethal poison damage. My mistake

[shy creek]

Mhm

[golden loom]

It does not duplicate Kingsbane, but you ramp KB way faster due to the duplicated poisons

[drifting cloud]

and shiv buffs your bleeds so you cant hold the shiv

[shy creek]

P sure this duplicates kb

[wind jacinth]

Stuff I read says it doesnt

But unclear

[drifting cloud]

it doesnt

[golden loom]

It does not

[shy creek]

Guess its just bad tooltip diff

[golden loom]

Yeah

[shy creek]

Crazy that it doesn't though

Today we both learned Helious LOL

[golden loom]

Well it would be completely bonkers if it did

[drifting cloud]

its for the best, kingsbane was way too strong in DF

if it got duplicated aswell oh boy

[runic hinge]

There can’t be two kings. So no double kingsbane

[golden loom]

You also will get the final kingsbane tick in lingering darkness so thats something atleast

[rotund oak]

It doesnt no,would be pretty wild,even with this nerfed version of KB

to get two of those

[wind jacinth]

Thanks all

[balmy condor]

the real thing is the difference in lethal dose

vs lingering darkness

means that you don't actually really get that big of a difference

[rotund oak]

man,im so sad corruptions dont benefit from Sub''s shadow amps

blizzard cant let us have some fun

dance+blades+sod and proc TD

[drifting cloud]

yeah fun when some random shadow dmg delve trinket would be turbo bis

[rotund oak]

would be so pog

[drifting cloud]

im surprised they havent turned off the magnet interaction yet

probably arent aware of it

[sonic pagoda]

over here flexing his rat alt lmao should i flex my 620 ilvl destro lock doing 10s?

[runic hinge]

Realistically I think they would if they were aware of it. Most things like that get whitelisted

[drifting cloud]

I dont know if other classes have interactions like that aswell I just thought they try to get rid of all of them

I remember when it used to be a problem for ele shamans for a long time

maybe theyre fine with it since its "only" 30%

[quasi hill]

morning

anything new on echoing void ?

[rotund oak]

im gushing wounds

[normal mist]

Sap check Tmog, idk if it is something you'd enjoy or not

[rotund oak]

hit me brother

[normal mist]

#transmog message

[rotund oak]

i want the black tmog ''Matrix Robe'' to pair with the pants

idk if uve seen supatease's tmog reel

hold on gonna search for it

[normal mist]

I haven't, show me!

But might be the chest piece we have pinned in the channel

[rotund oak]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qF28ZN5N7Ig

[normal mist]

Yep, it is

We have it's wowhead link pinned there

[rotund oak]

i need this in my life

its superOP

[normal mist]

Because for a month everything people asked was "where to get black long coat"

[rotund oak]

gonna farm that mfk@r

im pumped now

[keen spruce]

[gloomy heart]

which WA tells you wwhat your stats are at

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-neo-keanu-reeves-power-windy-gif-15235043

[runic hinge]

11 am tee time tomorrow. It’s finally happening

[native heron]

if im not a mythic raider. should i craft double weapon?

[orchid pewter]

Only if you have no other craftable upgrades

Crafted offhand is super low prio

[native heron]

i crafted neck/2 rings/wrists so far. i have 1 craft left.

[orchid pewter]

Just sim it probably

[uncut vector]

is anyone useing the plater from whispery ? cuz i only see rupture and garrote, but the WA tells me to see splater and more

[zenith elm]

Hello, does anyone have a good macro for mouseover rupture ? to help with certains boss figths

[sharp viper]

/use [@mouseover,exists,harm,nodead][]Rupture```

[balmy condor]

never craft two weapons

surely you get a myth dagger from vault doing m+ or something

and if you can't I'm sure you'll run out of sparks before you should craft an offhand

[solid saffron]

Should i be getting some more crit and vers?

[coral ibex]

you should be getting more ilvl

and not thinking about stats until you are 680

[haughty flicker]

Should be getting a transmog

[solid saffron]

add me and boost me then

[normal mist]

!stats

[coral ibex]

ok 250k per +10 key

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[solid saffron]

Rip off i can go to g2g and get some kid to do it for like $2

[cinder geode]

I was looking at the top sin rogues and 7 out of the top 10 use this hybrid looking build with twist the knife and atrophic and no garrote talents, do any of yall use it?

[coral ibex]

go do that then

[normal mist]

dont look at top sin

its a different game up there

[solid saffron]

Smh allergic to making money

[meager plank]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[coral ibex]

if i need wow gold i buy a token because i have a real job

[cinder geode]

Theyre doing 20s Im doing 16s how different is the game

[normal mist]

very

[solid saffron]

Bro thinks hes the only one with a job T_T

[coral ibex]

im not sure what you mean

[cinder geode]

Im fucking around with this build im not getting gatekept from greatness

[normal mist]

their need for more ST is way higher than yours at 16

[solid saffron]

Relax bro

[rotund oak]

YAAAAAAAAAAAS

[solid saffron]

such a hostile little boy

[gloomy heart]

IS THIS A TANK TRINKET BRO

[cinder geode]

I want st D:

[coral ibex]

you're the one replying to me lol

you asked about stats and i told you to get ilvl and not worry about it

[coral ibex]

stay mad about correct information i guess

[normal mist]

if your party is really in need of ST then yeah cleave/hybrid builds should cover that

[coral ibex]

goes hard as fuck

[gloomy heart]

wtf is that

[solid saffron]

no clue i got off a purple bag from the nightfall

[sharp viper]

nightfall event trinket

[normal mist]

You're still gearing up, @solid saffron just keep getting ilevel, stats do not matter

[solid saffron]

Thanks royal ill go do that

[normal mist]

if ilvl is bigger, we use it

[cinder geode]

im hybrid pilled I get way more ST in exchange for losing garrotes which were doing less than I originally thought anyway

[normal mist]

Yeah i believe we had that discussion here yesterday too

In practise, bleed build is easier to use, no real need to minmax much, just demisemaxing and brrrrr bleeds and you do great up until 17s anyway

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[cinder geode]

Didnt know there was a command for it

[normal mist]

It's somewhat recent

like 2 weeks old i guess

[oak musk]

I have to ask, therefore I play bleed

[normal mist]

^ basically

[haughty flicker]

I play bleed because I'm lazy

No kb op

[oak musk]

Same

[normal mist]

(same but i dont play)

[oak musk]

Just press CT

[sharp viper]

andy

[normal mist]

haven't done naxx this week yet, and i've been playing my warrior wdym

timed 3 10's this week!

[cinder geode]

Did yall know you can use wound poison on the yes men in cinderbrew

random priest put me on today had no idea

[coral ibex]

to grief yourself yea

really good idea

do less damage and reduce a miniscule amount of the heal

[cinder geode]

whether its 4 pm or 4 am i can count on you for very helpful remarks

[coral ibex]

lol?

it says the same thing in the wowhead guide bud

be mad

[balmy condor]

it's worth swapping on high keys

you just have them heal once and then swap back

you can also technically sudden demise all of them at once and skip the entire pack

so

that's funny

[cinder geode]

I've done it with 2 at once only one time

[balmy condor]

yeh I've seen someone kill all 4

but it's hard

[iron carbon]

Can't remember, what makes CT worth in ST? The last buff by itself or some talent interactions?

[balmy condor]

having a bunch of CT/bleed things and not buffing envenom

like amp poison makes envenom better again

but if you're playing bleed build you don't have poison bomb, you don't have amp

you don't have ttk

you don't have two poisons

and so compared to any regular build

bleed build makes envenoms much worse

[iron carbon]

That's what I thought but not sure

Thanks

[olive tree]

Am i wrong or are restealths alot better on bleed build vs cleave/hybrid

[normal mist]

better QoL yes

[iron carbon]

It feels better, for sure

Cuz you deal a lot with improved garrote

[olive tree]

I mean u Kinda need to make more enemies bleed since ur caustic is way worse

Compared to amp poison and kb

[coral ibex]

yea but manually spreading bleeds is fine

otherwise ur just spamming a weak envenom anyway

[olive tree]

Ye but chaining before ipa with double packs results in alot of Single ruptures and so on 😂🥲

F.e.

[iron carbon]

I don't get what you mean

[coral ibex]

yea you can save a vanish for that but its really not as bad as you think

because otherwise you are just

spamming envenom

which is not a lot of your damage as bleed

[iron carbon]

But there's a reason you got 2 vanish charges

[coral ibex]

yea

you can also chain without vanish, its fine

[olive tree]

Hmm been using/saving them for either reapply on +16 or when ipa or big momma so that adds are killed faster

Also is there some reason why meld sometimes let me stealth and sometimes Not

[iron carbon]

Meld isn't accurate cuz of dots

Sometimes works, sometimes not. That's it

[iron carbon]

I don't get the issue then

Just save a vanish charge for IPA and spread rupture manually

[olive tree]

Ive never had chaining issues on hybrid since caustic is doing great there. But it feels Like ud want at to rupture all targets, which is taking alot of time on chainpulls. So i asked but prolly i just Need to keep more vanishes for chains and less for dmg/reapply

With bleedbuild

[iron carbon]

No, just think that a manual rupture as bleed is like a envenom as hybrid

Cuz ur envenom as bleeds won't do a lot

Just you take time put ruptures instead of spam envenom

[olive tree]

Ye But u lose garrotes on all but 1

[iron carbon]

Yes, but chaining better for group

So you lose a bit of damages to get more overall dps on key

That's why we prolly need to think where to use vanish on pulls

Useless to reapply with vanish at the middle of pull to win 5 sec on it

If you know tank gonna chain

[balmy condor]

more uptime on more mobs = higher damage

regardless of group dps or anything

you will just have more dps by hitting more things

[olive tree]

Gotta fix my jundies plater profile then cuz some plates still overlap 😂

[balmy condor]

this is kinda why I will never forgive details (even though it's kinda not their fault cause there's not really any combat hooks but they could've added hooks themselves to fix that but that's a different story)

because details normalized combat-time dps

and not encounter-time dps

so you as the player just like never fully realize how much damage you're losing standing around not pulling shit in a dungeon

[iron carbon]

But logs do

[balmy condor]

cause logically, obviously standing around not casting things and running to the next pack is an utter waste of time

everyone understands that

but details doesn't count that as a loss

and so chain pulling and shit is so misunderstood

logs do, but if you open dungeon logs you'll quickly realize that there are no dungeon logs

ain't nobody loggin that shit

it's gotten better for sure

but even when people log it's just auto-logging for like 9 hours and then they open the logs 3 days later and analyze or whatever

[iron carbon]

I'm speaking about personal improvement

[balmy condor]

personal improvement for sure, but chainpulling/stealthing/double pulls and shit

[iron carbon]

Depends of random tanks ikr

[balmy condor]

their efficiency is so fucking muddied by fucking details just not counting out of combat time

and it blows

so fucking hard

[iron carbon]

I beg my tank friend to chain faster

But I don't play bleeds so idc a bit

[balmy condor]

I beg my tank friend to chain faster cause it makes the key go quicker

and then he doesn't chain

and the mobs hit 2% hp

and then I quietly mutter

and he goes "sorry I forgot"

the pack dies

I get my restealth

and he chains the next 3

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but this dude is cranking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMNhAkquik

[balmy condor]

yeh senpapi is cracked

[keen spruce]

[rotund oak]

ive been watching him for like months now and trying his sht

totally reliable 👌

[balmy condor]

dual blade gud

one of my more fun boss mules recently

[rotund oak]

me noob so very very gud

[balmy condor]

got it to 6th job recently

[rotund oak]

u r crazy

lol

master maplestory farmer

[balmy condor]

I'm just partly prepping for legion champ

so main + these 3 bozos to start

and then uh

idk

[rotund oak]

blade master also gud

[balmy condor]

blade master is just the in game for dual blade its weird

[rotund oak]

so many classes in this game

feels like poe if u wanna go balls deep

[haughty flicker]

me hold down hurricane

[loud hawk]

so with the lesser corruptions and with the echoing void being bugged we just go what ever animation we like kinda?

[analog jay]

so I tried the thistle tea+shiv macro but it doesn´t cast thistle tea... any recommendations "#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null" ?

[balmy condor]

do you have old ass thistle tea sitting in your bank

[analog jay]

not that I am aware off 😄

[balmy condor]

that's basically the only reason it ever breaks

either that or you're not playing on an english client I guess

would most likely have to change the names to match your client

idk how that works

[analog jay]

german client but did the translation with all my macros correctly. and thats the only one thats not working

[loud hawk]

#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

thats what i have and works

[balmy condor]

that's what he linked yes

[analog jay]

does macros support spell id btw? 🙂 would make things easier

lol - deleted it and created it from scratch - now it works

[royal lantern]

the game works in mysterious ways

[balmy condor]

no

[quiet oar]

Petition that tanks ahve to play certain DPS clases before they are allowed to tank

to feel the struggle

[sharp viper]

make it arms warrior with ravager and demolish

[royal lantern]

and make dps play tank for 3 dungeons aswell

you REALLY start to hate those braindead "i have cds pull more pull more i pull them for you ok???" evokers/mages/paladins

yes pull 2 more packs, i have no cds, no biggie man

[weak copper]

hey dudes, I just want to understand what I can do gear wise to improve my ST, 2.5m patchwerk sim seems low right?
22% crit 8487
12% haste 7845
57% mastery 17720
14% vers 11204

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cbyo7cyKGMQWYiFUvz8iP5

i want to perform well for my raid team. im surprised by the fact that there's pretty much no crafted pieces that give meaningful upgrades, even tho im running haste vers on necklace. I suppose I should still craft a piece to get 2nd embellishment?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9EbzBAhwWKomHSznpWTz9o

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

what do you want to improve, thas a kinda normal assa sim lol

[normal mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/766349238941777931/1131266466289819779/caption.gif

You sim,
Sim gives answer,
You trust sim

Better love story than twilight

[weak copper]

I don't think this will be sufficient, raid is at mugzee myth

[golden loom]

I mean sim dps does not matter

you use it as a gearing tool

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tLsgsKF5YHmiQrxDjfi3s9

this was enough to kill mugzee

😎

[weak copper]

Alright, and what dps did u end up making on mug

[weak copper]

okay v nice

[scarlet orbit]

After all the power we gained lately dmg on mugzee will not be the problem to kill it. Getting everyone there alive is the hard part.

[hollow talon]

Ye our kill we skipped so much stuff towards the end

A tiny bit of dps on your end isnt holding your team back

[peak lake]

why do you have only one embelish

[solar wyvern]

went on a bit of a TEAR today gamers

[pliant remnant]

wtf

[sharp viper]

nice

[pliant remnant]

That's not very meta of you

[solar wyvern]

cant stop

wont stop

[runic hinge]

This dude is gaming

[glad mortar]

Putting aside the needs of the team, for parsing of Rik Reverb do you avoid switching targets onto barrels and just focus on CD spattering?

[solar wyvern]

Yeah you focus spattering

you can snipe ruptures

for energy

only 1 tho is all you need

[glad mortar]

Nice, TY

Do you have a rupture snipe macro for auto targeting and switching back, or do it manually?

[sharp viper]

#assassination message you can use a mouseover like this

[subtle tundra]

you are pog

[solar wyvern]

really on a tear wowza

[errant heath]

Playing the bleed build on those high keys Char?

[spiral sedge]

Can it be used on bouth raprure and gurrot? Cous it would solve my current issue of. Scrolling throo tresh packs. To find my mark.

[midnight mist]

Why are you playing assa instead of outlaw

[subtle tundra]

wanna make me get muted again

[solar wyvern]

Outlaw with DK RET??

[subtle tundra]

ill attack you

[solar wyvern]

HMMM

[midnight mist]

Go for it cuh

[solar wyvern]

nice double rogue 20 dfc zac

btw

i peeped that log sheeesh

[solar wyvern]

no dashing+forced induction

[midnight mist]

I mean 20 dfc isn't that impressive tbf

[sharp viper]

yes, just replace the name of the spell

[midnight mist]

20 flood I'm more proud of

[solar wyvern]

yeah but its 2 rogues thats impressive haha

[midnight mist]

Idk

I think it's legit better

Xd

[potent raven]

god i missed playing rogue

[subtle tundra]

have you seen your comp bruh?

[potent raven]

hello Zac

[solar wyvern]

I think its also good

but idk some keys outlaw assa seems kinda sus like mead

[midnight mist]

i think chineses players are just wrong

and playuing the wrong comp

no cap lol

[solar wyvern]

u play 2 rogue in floodyG?

[midnight mist]

wdym

[winged sun]

[midnight mist]

outlaw is prolly one of the strognest spec in the game in brew

and assa is insane aswell

[solar wyvern]

ya dont say

Im not experience enough in outlaw this season ig

[midnight mist]

i would have done 7 mil overall in my last brew if i didnt die

[winged sun]

I did 7m i think

[solar wyvern]

Do you pull for 8 targets or still mega pulls?

[winged sun]

Not to mention i detroyed every boss

[spiral sedge]

I mainly ment if it can couse some issues.

[midnight mist]

nah you just mega pull

idk

you do the 3 guys at start

[solar wyvern]

yeah i guess u just split the ipa room up more?

[midnight mist]

ye

[solar wyvern]

hmm interesting

just gotta convince everyone on NA

that it aint bad

[winged sun]

[solar wyvern]

People wanna play arcane with assa here and i just cba

[midnight mist]

generally you do things like these

[winged sun]

We have to nuke that ipa pack with boss btw

[midnight mist]

but ipa room is all chained anywya

[winged sun]

Cuz we dont need the funnel for timer

[midnight mist]

ye

[solar wyvern]

with BF and spatter should be ezmode lowkey

[sharp viper]

I don't see why or how, you just need to be aware of your mouse position on the screen

[midnight mist]

its a bit weird cause the pack is slowed from slow poison

so it can take time to die if things are weird

[winged sun]

Nah im not worried about it

U shouldnt either

Im only worried about monksea dying on other packs and the first pull+ pull 6

Its a hard key for tanks but we’ll see

Should be fine possibly

[midnight mist]

he tanked it fine in 19

will see

[barren spade]

GUYS

MYTHIC + best build

hit me with it

rq

the one everyone's usin

[winged sun]

[solar wyvern]

Internal bleeding with no garrote talents trust

[sharp viper]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[solar wyvern]

(for legal reasons this is a joke, just bleed build for lowkeys 15 and below)

[sharp viper]

If you have to ask, you should play bleed

[spiral sedge]

I also usualy hold right button down for strafing and turning when not actively clickibg on mobs. So i think i'll be fine.

[wary crow]

How do you destroy boss as sin? Is that not a weakness?

[normal mist]

It this, that's why he builds his talents into ST focus

otherwise he wouldn't be able to have enough dps to kill bosses at +19/20s like he is

[wary crow]

And AoE is not lacking? Or with a good route / overall dps it's enough?

[normal mist]

His caustic carries a lot since hes doing a lot of ST dmg to prio targets as well

Nothing plebs like me need to understand 100% honestly, it only matters at like 17/18+

[wary crow]

Yeah true, but still it's interesting to understand 😄

thx for the answers

[winged sun]

Aoe should be close to bleed build

Identical the higher u go

However its much more difficult and more punishing to play

[wary crow]

As hybrid with a single target talent tree?

[royal lantern]

only if you play high stuff tbh

in the keys 99% of players do, stuff dies to fast overall

[wary crow]

So bleed is not scalling well the higher key is

[royal lantern]

not what i would say?

[winged sun]

Hybrid plays like 5-10 different talents

[royal lantern]

its different dmg profiles

[winged sun]

Ye correct

It scales horribly with key level

[wary crow]

I don't get exactly why? And why the hybrid tend to be the other way?
Caustic spatter is really that good?

[royal lantern]

if you do keys like

+18 upwards

boss dmg becomes more important

and prio dmg

and bleed is not hat great for that, its more raw aoe focused

if you dont do 18 upwards, just play bleed

[wary crow]

prio damage are not important at like +12/13 already?

[normal mist]

no

[royal lantern]

lol no

[normal mist]

things just fall over in the blink of an eye

[wary crow]

I'll play bleed, but understand the strength of something make me curious

[shy creek]

Most of the time, if you're geared and playing hybrid in 12s and 13s (fuck even in 14s/15s I feel it sometimes)

The thing you have deathmark on

Won't even finish ticking deathmark

It'll die like 8-12 seconds in

[wary crow]

Kinda true indeed

but still priority damage help to deal with a pack with no mobs staying alive after the end of the majority. I though at +12/13 it was relevant. Not mendatory

Thanks for your answers!

[shy creek]

Its still important, its just not nearly as important as higher keys

You'd rather just thrash the fuck out of the AoE because assa rogue aoe is insane and let other people worry abt the single target

[gray raven]

Probably depends on your comp too - i'm pushing into 16s now as bleed and it's been doing fine

[shy creek]

^ yea like if u arcane mage going giga then ur probably okay either way

[wary crow]

60% of (not only arcane tho) mage that i see are really doing a bad job, and idk if i'm unlucky or not

[shy creek]

Yeah sounds about right

Most FOTM players suck dick

YOu can filter them out p fast checking their raid logs though

[wary crow]

mage are always meta, but idk having like one of the best kit of the game look not enough..

[gray raven]

they are the main character after all!

[spiral sedge]

Is there any one who could hepl me with my rotation for guild HC once i get home in about 2h. I picked up rogue last week. And assa yesterday for the first time and i want to shine.

[shy creek]

Have you read through the entire wowhead guide

Everything you need is pretty much there

[wary crow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[loud hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rVdX4enUgBjdMz8afpbUAw / https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7TxyAeBLTsiKXeBnghL3ye / https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r2tzacFpE5qm1KMzVp4jT8

Raidbots sims finger craft bigger damage than the Belt and Wrist

[brazen sluice]

is void ritual bugged?

[royal lantern]

why?

[brazen sluice]

heard its bugged

[shy creek]

Have not heard abotu void ritual being bugged

[loud hawk]

Echoing void is bugged

[shy creek]

But its Blizzard, so its possible

[gray hazel]

Everything is bugged

[brazen sluice]

oh yeh the echo one mybad i misread it

[loud hawk]

so guys do i craft Finger instead of Belt or wrist

sims better

but dosent agility has priority

[spiral sedge]

Mostly. And wached some vids going over it too. Tho. Mainly want someone experience to tell. Me where i'm doing misstakes.

[shy creek]

You can link a log, and we can tell you

[normal mist]

We trust the sims

[shy creek]

Trust the sims, but also the difference you're looking at is so menial between any of those options thats its honestly just pick whatever you feel like

[normal mist]

didn't even look at the actual number %

[shy creek]

Its not much LOL

[loud hawk]

well is from 10.41M to 10.47M

[normal mist]

whats the %

[shy creek]

.2/.3 at most

[normal mist]

aka minimal

[loud hawk]

0.6% from current gear

[golden loom]

wtf is this sim

[loud hawk]

thats from finger sim

[golden loom]

1 min 5 target patchwerk??

[normal mist]

also

why 5targets patchwek 1 min?

yes

LOOL

[loud hawk]

isnt the best :3

[subtle tundra]

miau

[shy creek]

sometimes u just gotta look at the situation and move past it

this is oen of those moments

[loud hawk]

bro someone told me not to use dungeon slice as the main M+ sim

[normal mist]

who

[shy creek]

Was it someone that plays rogue

[subtle tundra]

ill beat him

[spiral sedge]

Ok. But will have to do after the raid.

[normal mist]

Varas get him

[shy creek]

You can upload a log of you hitting target dummies, and I can also take a look at that

[loud hawk]

all my life is a lie 😔

[normal mist]

it might be the case for some classes

not for rogue

TC's keep working on the APL to make it better all the time

[loud hawk]

aight ty for inform me THE TRUTH!

i'll redo the sims FOR EVERYTHING

[shy creek]

Laughing

Get em Sekuro

[subtle tundra]

dont overthink simming

[normal mist]

Dungeonslice = M+ // Patchwerk = ST

[shy creek]

You've been enlightened

[kind forge]

Don’t let people who do not play rogue or have a clue about us tell you how to sim things with this class

While other classes don’t function well with slice, we do

[spiral sedge]

That's good to know!

I'll do just that.

Gonna make and for ST and cleave

And just as a baseline. How sould dps on averege look with 657ilvl?

[shy creek]

Sim yourself and check

But not great

[normal mist]

quick sim might answer that

[foggy merlin]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[jaunty warren]

how the heck did sekuro get 10 mil dps at 678 ilevel? Is that legit or a sim bug?

[spiral sedge]

My sim sayes. 1.45mill i can on st dummy with no buffs pull around 1.75 and keep it there pretty much forever or at least over 5min

[jaunty warren]

At 675 bleed build I show about 2.1 mil

[proper tapir]

@balmy condor Hey dude, just in case you didn't see I responded to your comments in #1065730164077645916 message

[loud hawk]

my sim was Patchwerk 5 target 1 minutes

u probably did 1 target

[jaunty warren]

Yep I did …thanks for pointing that out …

[dapper cradle]

incredible

[normal mist]

its not a good sim, don't follow it

[dapper cradle]

tc-sin chat has never been more interesting

[jaunty warren]

Now I show about 11 mil so it tracks

[loud hawk]

yeah but

do dungeon slice

[jaunty warren]

Yep just did that ..bleed shows about 3 mil

[dapper cradle]

merk if this is the last time I'll see you, I just want you to know it was fun

[haughty flicker]

[brazen sluice]

for cleave fights do u just sim st with spatter on?

[shy creek]

p much

[loud hawk]

is it possible to remove an embellishment from an armor piece

[shy creek]

YES

Griftahs removing powder or smthn

[loud hawk]

🙏🏻

[potent raven]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[potent raven]

how do i auto tricks

oh

[winged sun]

oh

[potent raven]

whats up

[royal lantern]

the opposite of down

[winged sun]

The sky

[brazen sluice]

i hate it when sims is asking me to go 12k haste

[lyric gate]

what do you do if your raidleader ask yoiu to go 12k haste

[golden loom]

why

[brazen sluice]

u simply say my acc is hacked

[golden loom]

its not like u feel any stats anyways

[brazen sluice]

makes it harder to swab between sub and assa

[lyric gate]

well i could feel the difference when my gear was ful.l sub

and i went for assa

that missing crit

[brazen sluice]

maybe

[lyric gate]

they could just make ambush 100% crit

out of stealth

[brazen sluice]

they should make a way which makes swapping specs more easier when it comes to bis stats for each spec

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

secondarys allready barelly matter

and is almost always just kinda a excuse people make up to feel better when the numbers are low

swapped Specs and im not doing the same dmg as before? thats clearly because i have only 32% mastery instead of 36%!

[potent raven]

hi

[strange tundra]

hi

[manic anvil]

what are the embellishments that i should have on my gear?

[somber fractal]

acension dagger and writhing armor binding

[gilded oasis]

don't call me out bruv

[manic anvil]

on one dagger or both daggers (if crafted) and how many writhing armor bindings?

[somber fractal]

you can only have 2 embellishments

[manic anvil]

ah ok

[somber fractal]

put it on the offhand dagger if your main hand is higher ilvl

and put the writhing armor on some random piece of low stat gear you dont have like boots/cloak/bracers

[viscid gazelle]

I was thinking about going back to working on my rogue. is it worth raiding or doing M+? seems like rogue just brings dmg but they dont really top the chart much. with things like maxroll saying rogue damage is mediocre? I dont mind so much on raiding but if I wanted to push keys at all I wasn't sure

[subtle tundra]

maxroll isnt a reliable source

[loud hawk]

guys why while we have a darkest night proc available and then ambush from stealth an another mob to apply deathstalker mark, the mark doesn't consume an application until we hit the mob with envenom on darkest night

[subtle tundra]

cause its a bug

[loud hawk]

isnt it that like a big damage loss

[subtle tundra]

you just do 7cp finisher

well envenom

[loud hawk]

so i do envenom before all the bleeds applied

[subtle tundra]

ofc not

[loud hawk]

yeah but then deathstalker will stay at 3

[subtle tundra]

yeah

[loud hawk]

pff

[humble verge]

we gonna be partying

[subtle tundra]

party in the house tonight

[viscid gazelle]

use the ivyvein guide and info then?

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-5105406

[thorny pond]

#assassination-faq whispyr wrote the book on it. I see plenty of rogues do good damage in big keys

[royal lantern]

you are not low ❤️

[neat smelt]

i ve been getting a CtW bug lately where it doesnt proc after applying DsM, anyone else experienced this and, if so, have you found a fix?

[wise plume]

nope, we continue to suffer

[neat smelt]

great

[viscid gazelle]

copy thanks!

[thorny kraken]

is Echoing Void still bugged?

[humble verge]

#assassination message

[thorny fog]

dam

[coral ibex]

DAMN WHAT A BANGER

forgot about that song

going in my white girl bangers playlist rn

[jaunty sky]

did this on a workshop 10 for me

overall

which doesnt seem like it's wokring

[thorny kraken]

thats rough

[normal mist]

mind sharing the list?

i need white girls energy music rn

[coral ibex]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/44pcj0xbefcy6C981i2WGf?si=24625a5d25474dbd

[jaunty sky]

the pala in my group running void ritual had 92% uptime

guess I'm swapping to either that or devastation

[normal mist]

thanks homie, appreciate it a lot

[coral ibex]

it reflects my age, mostly 2000's/early 2010's

[normal mist]

how old are you?

[coral ibex]

32

[normal mist]

im 30, same shit

we vibin

[normal mist]

Times when we had 0 worries in the world

[golden loom]

Boomers!

[strange tundra]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c593muPKhiUNpdFYNgXJeT

is this even worth

[jaunty sky]

@strange tundra UPGRADE YOUR CIRCLET TO 658

[humble verge]

dont do it

[strange tundra]

why was it 619 wtf

then wont even sim

it will top the jastor

[normal mist]

it is upgraded

its a sim bug

[strange tundra]

ok

typical noob outlaw

[jaunty sky]

oh yeah it shows as 619 in quick sim for me as well and mine is def upgraded

[loud hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kF6Jk8dFtTeCHGeHMtsRW3

how tf can the ring be that better

[normal mist]

computer did calculations and thats the result!

[loud hawk]

ahh what can i say

finger it is

[jaunty sky]

did u sim the high mastery vers ring

[loud hawk]

me?

[jaunty sky]

ye

[loud hawk]

high mastery vers ring which is that

radiant ?

[jaunty sky]

ye

[loud hawk]

lets see

it will take time rings with gems and enchants is too much sauce

[jaunty sky]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cMxXuH8S27LLQr5wShreao

1.2%

wait what key level are u running

to sim for the hybrid

[loud hawk]

i am on 15's now

[jaunty sky]

ah ye

[normal mist]

why dungeonslice 2 minutes

[jaunty sky]

idk his settings

[coral ibex]

dslice is always 5 mins

[jaunty sky]

i just fucked with the gear

[coral ibex]

time setting doesn't affect it

i learned this a few weeks back

[gusty mirage]

same

[loud hawk]

is 684 tho

i have it on hero

so it would be 671

the thing is will craft either Belt or Finger

[balmy condor]

6 even

[loud hawk]

and finger seems to sims A LOT BETTER

[humble verge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7Eo1JOdPvYYZqveKzXh8pN?si=00fdfc73166e4a6e @coral ibex

[coral ibex]

seven ate nine bud

[humble verge]

NOOOO

[gusty mirage]

WOAH

@balmy condor 3.26 in 3 weeks

whats your league start

[jaunty sky]

how can u know that without knowing league mech

[balmy condor]

Horrible tragedy

[jaunty sky]

and no patch notes

[balmy condor]

That’s Maplestory patch

[jaunty sky]

I'm tempted to take a week off for it actually

[gusty mirage]

but lets be real, you do know

trickster getting nuked

slayer LS anyone?

[jaunty sky]

nah i wanna play scourge arrow poison PF tank again

but the tincture is gone

[gusty mirage]

[humble verge]

s35 in d3 starts june 6

[gusty mirage]

affliction my beloved

[humble verge]

[jaunty sky]

and wihtout tincture it does no fuckin dmg

affliction i got a 1p voices with a scuffed autobomber DD chieftain 'optimized' for simulacrum

[humble verge]

wait

3.26 is poe right?

[jaunty sky]

yeah

i think so at least

it's been settlers for like a year

i want a blast league again

[humble verge]

ggg ruined their game

[jaunty sky]

no fuckin menuing

[humble verge]

[jaunty sky]

just go

[rotund oak]

huge

[jaunty sky]

map in loot out

[jaunty sky]

PoE2 cost them a lot on PoE1 yeah

[humble verge]

this season i wll surely get top 100 4p

[jaunty sky]

it's a cool game but it's not the same

[humble verge]

its never the same

sadge

[rotund oak]

im gonna clear all GR on whirlrend barb,prolly go necro as well

but first god dh

[humble verge]

i got like

[rotund oak]

for early paragon

[humble verge]

133 GR as ww

i think

there was a guy using the uh

cant remember the build

[rotund oak]

u need to micro and minmax ur doublerends

[humble verge]

but the one where you just like

[rotund oak]

and stopwhirl

[humble verge]

yeye

but i suk ass

[rotund oak]

cmon man

[humble verge]

there was the spam build or w/e

where you stand still

[rotund oak]

press ''S''

[humble verge]

forgor the ability

[rotund oak]

u press ww which applies rend but u press rend

as well

[humble verge]

jajaja

[rotund oak]

and stops the cast

[humble verge]

i know that

ahhh

[rotund oak]

double dips on bleeds

[humble verge]

savage frenzy

is what got first 150 barb

that season i think

im gonna check

[rotund oak]

best RK in the game

hits infinitely fast

[humble verge]

wait is it?

i thought the uh

[rotund oak]

yeah savage frenzy is the best

[humble verge]

bone spear was good

[rotund oak]

rift guardian killer

not as fast

[humble verge]

wait no im stupid

rhatma

i mean

[rotund oak]

neither

[humble verge]

hm ok

well

not solo but

in teams

you would still run double necro

[rotund oak]

best rgk in the game is savage frenzy

[humble verge]

hm ok

[rotund oak]

it stacks infinite amp from gem

[humble verge]

according to max

maybe ill play for like these 2 weeks

until they close

got nothing else to do

[rotund oak]

maybe its seasonal

[humble verge]

probably

[rotund oak]

but yeah ive destroyed d3 in every possible way

all classes

[strange tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821808130308571137.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[rotund oak]

best starter always GoD hungering arrow

for fast paragon

[humble verge]

true

[rotund oak]

and once u hit 1.4k+ u swap to ww or monk frost bomb

for 150 clear

[humble verge]

but like

ww rend still works tho

for leveling but

i guess stuff die too fast

[rotund oak]

its slower but works for sure

[humble verge]

to get energy

[rotund oak]

ww needs to hit

[humble verge]

jaja

ik

[rotund oak]

god dh just strafes

[humble verge]

this is what max says lolle

[rotund oak]

same as TR monk

[humble verge]

AoV crusader makes sense

[rotund oak]

yeah tanky af

shadow impale also good but i dont like the gamestyle

LoD WOL super OP

[humble verge]

im gonna get boosted and maybe try out some stuff

[last skiff]

embrase the PIEW PIEW PIEW PIEW

[rotund oak]

god dh

[rotund oak]

@vestal wren this is the Colour i was thinking for Avatar of Shadow ive been yapping about

[vestal wren]

looks cool

but too dark for wow probably

[rotund oak]

yup its gear of dreadlands demon hunter on diabloe 3

[midnight mist]

is this killing spree

[last skiff]

Nah imaging playing entire dungeon with the E of Garen

you just moove

[rotund oak]

wdym u press 4 buttons at once

shadow power,Hungering arrow to pierce

😂

[last skiff]

nah the set do it himself

[rotund oak]

u press it once every 3-4 sec to keep the stacks..

[last skiff]

idk I just play it for early farm

[rotund oak]

also more dmg

yeah ive pushed 150 in couple of seasons with god dh

it falls off about 135-ish

assuming uve got the aoe/atk speed breakpoints done

prolly can do 150 now though coz altar is a thing

[last skiff]

I just want to play multishoot and turn my brain of

https://tenor.com/view/smoge-gif-23108913

[humble verge]

[last skiff]

first ancient on a legendary with 0 effect

[rotund oak]

dont ever do EN before u get full set and wpns and some dmg

jsut go cathedral lvl 2

and farm

killing streak

2 floors is about 20 lvls

@humble verge soryr it was meant for u

also play chakram