assassination

[thin portal]

[humble verge]

zeross, ill use your build in a 12

[velvet cairn]

wait real? i can swear when i watched TR he played a lot of hybrid

[humble verge]

if im not top dps

im gonna report you for being bad at making builds

[balmy condor]

I can't call it hybrid when it doesn't take imp gar man

[winged sun]

dude

[velvet cairn]

fair

[winged sun]

ryukage is already extremely cooked on outlaw

[balmy condor]

that would be a bastardization

[winged sun]

i wonder what he will do without subterfuge

[thin portal]

I tried cleave build in a key

[lusty narwhal]

Are 681 craft sims broken?

[humble verge]

honestly

[balmy condor]

NO MAN

STILL NO

[humble verge]

i feel like im doing well even with subt

[lusty narwhal]

[humble verge]

only time i feel like im using it is i just wanna extra dot to pad

since im in garbage weeklies

[thin portal]

What is the build with kb and crimson? Is that the hybrid?

[humble verge]

yes

[winged sun]

its starting

[ebon steppe]

Yeah I agree

[jaunty sparrow]

king crimson?!

[ebon steppe]

could be years

[proud pelican]

Let my king cook

[winged sun]

ryu playing hybrid

[thin portal]

Shindig is playing hybrid

[winged sun]

someone save this planet

[balmy condor]

I need to close discord

[thin portal]

I wanna try them all

Yeeee

[winged sun]

omg streamer playing it

[proud pelican]

Take off the training wheels ryu play hybrid bro

[winged sun]

it has to be good for everyone

!!!

[fresh kelp]

Whispyr interacting with Ryu is content my god

[winged sun]

dude

[thin portal]

We will never know if we don't try it

[winged sun]

i swapped from outlaw

to sin

[thin portal]

Relax

[winged sun]

to avoid ryukage's cooked takes

[ebon steppe]

Link

[winged sun]

you guys have not seen his essay's

about outlaw

[red schooner]

Time to go sub

[thin portal]

Hahaah

[proud pelican]

Shareholders tuning specs was my favorite

[blazing tulip]

Is bloodmallet still reliable?

[balmy condor]

for single target yes

[proud pelican]

That cook went crazy

[humble verge]

its fine

bloodmallet is a good reference for what trinkets you want

and what would be better for ya

[thin portal]

Okay but sin offers multiple specs and ur saying not to try them zeross

[balmy condor]

I'm applying for job at blizzard right now, I need killing spree reworked so I can mop all the outlaws back into their containment channel

[winged sun]

well im not saying that, u should try playing only bleed build

[humble verge]

i would recommend to learn one spec before you go to the next one

[winged sun]

[thin portal]

[velvet cairn]

if i know all specs what do i do now?

[humble verge]

actually

i cant even remember

what was our main damage in SL m+

[winged sun]

sub rogue

[humble verge]

i feel like we pumped, but i cant even remember what i played

[winged sun]

or wdym

[velvet cairn]

tempest for sin

[humble verge]

no assa

oh true i guess

thats when CT was more new too

[velvet cairn]

i think you just spammed tempest

[humble verge]

iirc

[winged sun]

the only assa i saw in SL was literally zerocool

and no one else

[humble verge]

i played assa like

end of CN

and did some keys i think

[harsh anchor]

SL was an outlaw expansion

Gg

[thin portal]

Once trolling spree is fixed I'd go back to outlaw sure

[humble verge]

nah

[winged sun]

not only he was the only assa player, he also talked about builds EVERYONE IS USING THIS AND NOT THIS AND THAT AND NOT THAT

like

[humble verge]

u could play all the specs

and still do good

[winged sun]

there are no assa players

wdym everyone

[thin portal]

I like the cleave build

And bleed build

[velvet cairn]

wtf is cleave build

force induc?

[humble verge]

oh yeah

[balmy condor]

I'm on it my king

[humble verge]

i guess it was fire, boomie and outlaw

[balmy condor]

sent my job application

[humble verge]

back in s1 SL

[balmy condor]

only a matter of time

[thin portal]

Thanks whispyr!!!

[boreal hollow]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

That’s my dev ty king

[winged sun]

ngl

even if outlaw gets fixed i would never play it

[humble verge]

wait

the new meta in flood is to do demo duo and then big momma?

[thin portal]

Cleave build is hard in low keys everything deadge before you pop kb

[winged sun]

i'll always play the spec that does the highest dps

[humble verge]

can u confirm this ross

[winged sun]

yea its been like that for few weeks now

[humble verge]

ah ok

[winged sun]

lust 1st pull and go duo while lust is on cd

then pull big momma with lust

[thin portal]

Bleed build has been the best in low keys so far for me

[winged sun]

yes yes

shindig is playing bleed

not hybrid

[humble verge]

who is shindig

and should i care

[velvet cairn]

tbh depends on dungeon

[winged sun]

look 6b dmg @thin portal

[humble verge]

oh

[velvet cairn]

he plays sub in top i think

[humble verge]

american rogue

[worthy rose]

what does chainbleed play

[winged sun]

since i know u dont look at dps

only dmg

[worthy rose]

i just copy his build

and what does whispyr play

i copy his build

i alternate between chainbleed / whispyr / zeross / zeross recommended build he posted a while back

[winged sun]

@thin portal 6b dmg

thoughts?

ryu

[worthy rose]

who needs to read talents

just import what ur role models do

[humble verge]

is shindig fooling around in keys with bleed

[velvet cairn]

no farming quest for dinar

[thin portal]

[humble verge]

ah ok

[velvet cairn]

and crest b4 push

[thin portal]

Nice nice

[humble verge]

i would do this if i wasnt carrying 2m noobs in my weeklies every time smh

[thin portal]

Ots nice to play a spec woth useful talent nodes omg

Outlaw has 20 worthless nodes

So many builds because the nodes are more useful

[ebon steppe]

Sub has 10

[thin portal]

Interestings

[ebon steppe]

assa has 0

[humble verge]

IW

[ebon steppe]

[waxen oyster]

I feel like if you wanted to play outlaw with non shit design

just play enhance

[thin portal]

Also both hero trees on outlaw are useless too so just can't win there

[ebon steppe]

Ret pala

i suppose

[waxen oyster]

ret is pretty slow

idk

[ebon steppe]

Yeah…but

it's paladin man

One true hero class

[waxen oyster]

40 year old boomer dad vibes?

Oh

[thin portal]

If I make a sin build

[ebon steppe]

In 11.1

[thin portal]

I donno they are all made already

Lol

[velvet cairn]

do a lil cook and bullshit why its better

[humble verge]

only got 2231 valor for tomorrow

surely it will be enough

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor post vault

[balmy condor]

I have no vault tf you mean

[humble verge]

bro doesnt play the game

[hidden bay]

why not

[humble verge]

hes just here complaining

[balmy condor]

we're extending

?

[thin portal]

Once I learn more I might play with my own build but looks like a lot already made so far

[humble verge]

wait

[hidden bay]

no single m+ done

thats crazy

[humble verge]

u dont do your MANDATORY 8 +10s

[balmy condor]

why would I

[humble verge]

zamn

free gear

[balmy condor]

I have myth signet and myth pacemaker

[hidden bay]

socket

[distant helm]

valorstones are transferable now after the patch fyi

[balmy condor]

what gear

[humble verge]

or sockets

[hidden bay]

[humble verge]

lolle

[waxen oyster]

If anyone is mandatory 10s

this late in the season

mentally ill

[velvet cairn]

do you have myth apex predator tho??

[humble verge]

YEAH BUT DAWG I HAVE 0 ALTS SO IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING FOR ME, IM JUST HAPPY FOR EVERYONE ELSE

[waxen oyster]

lmao what

[coral ibex]

yall dont know bout the 684 magnet

[hidden bay]

imagine playing magnet

cheese trinket

for losers

[humble verge]

i have this sitting in my bag

[coral ibex]

sims better than pacemaker

not hard to use

got it off stix prog clear

[humble verge]

question is

do i go to bed

or play some nier

[thin portal]

Just think of it this way

[humble verge]

and then go to bed

and wake up at like 12pm

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/crypto-jebb-btc-sp500-spx-correlation-gif-26025890

[humble verge]

btcposting in my rogue chat

[winged sun]

i have no idea wtf is btc

[humble verge]

bitcoin

dawg.

[winged sun]

i just saw the magnet gif

ah

[thin portal]

Tww introduced worthless trinkets, embellishments and weapon procs. Don't worry about it that much.

All nerfed

No fun

[humble verge]

idk

[thin portal]

Just enjoy the new dungeons

[ebon steppe]

Idk

[humble verge]

egg from ovi and ara last season

was pretty good

even tho they werent bis

well they kinda were but

[ebon steppe]

Doom guy

[winged sun]

guys

[thin portal]

[subtle kiln]

Please save dooming for #subtlety

[winged sun]

i want to sleep ok

[ebon steppe]

Put ur helmet on

[winged sun]

can u keep it low

its abit noisy here

[humble verge]

what is bro talking about

dooming

im not dooming

im gooning

[winged sun]

sub rogue is fucked

no buffs plz

i love it when a spec is below garbage (aug)

[humble verge]

[thin portal]

Sub is a ghost town I heard

[humble verge]

wasnt aug in mdi tho

[ebon steppe]

Sure
/cast sap

[winged sun]

#subtlety message

ye

it is

look

quick

[thin portal]

Zeross how will u sleep while high on redbull

[ebon steppe]

Drink monster to sleep

[thin portal]

Don't forget to rinse with redbull when you brush teeth

[humble verge]

ross are you trolling doing 19 dfc as sub

🤨

[ebon steppe]

Ross

[humble verge]

too lazy to type zeross

[ebon steppe]

Took a while to get it

[neat terrace]

Should i be simming Dungeon Slice for M+ for sin?

[lucid silo]

i wish circe's wasnt so good

[balmy condor]

yes

[pliant remnant]

Call him Eros

[waxen oyster]

free damage

[thin portal]

yap mode disabled

Okay go sleep now zeross

[wide gorge]

Signet sim 0.1% higher than HoC myth, i guess im following what the robot says ?

[balmy condor]

read the damn pin

[modest gale]

how much is diff % mythic jastor and mythic normal ring

[balmy condor]

😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩

SIM YOURSELF GUYS

[ebon steppe]

0.8% in my sim but i recommend you to sim urself

[inland escarp]

Patch day for whysp is such a happy day

[marble hemlock]

youre not my real mom, dont tell me what to do

[worthy rose]

why bother simming when we can ask based whispyr for the answer

wise whispyr of the lake the discord

what is your wisdom

[modest gale]

thanks

[modest gale]

i dont have personally rings, so lazy to do that kind of sim, easier to ask

[worthy rose]

so are we getting the heroic jastor to use with circlet

or are we replacing circlet with heroic jastor

am confused

[spice surge]

Sim

[thin portal]

Don't mind whispyr, he's on the phone with Comcast he'll be normal when he gets off the phone.

[winged sun]

No, sin cant live 3rd boss

Nice design blizzard

Spec cant live a boss

[winged sun]

Great job

No counterplay

Fucking fucks

[humble verge]

what

how

??

[winged sun]

By dying

[humble verge]

so funny

but like

[spice surge]

Just cheat death

[thin portal]

3rd boss dfc is the candle king?

[humble verge]

you should have feint for most of the dots tho

oh wait

3rd boss

im stupid

[hexed root]

how are y'all simming hoc vs signet? just m+ droptimizer vs puzzling cartel?

[humble verge]

yeah that shits ass

i was thinking about candle boss

its actually insane how much damage i was taking in a 15 dfc even

[winged sun]

Sub has straight up 15% more dr and is immune to dying during cds

[humble verge]

almost died like 4 times

[thin portal]

I came to sin so I didn't have to trolling spree anymore and now your saying sin is bad for fights like candle king?

[winged sun]

We managed to fix all bosses for sin

[thin portal]

[winged sun]

Except 3rd boss dfc

Rsham just struggles to heal it

Maybe way easier with a priest

But idk its just a sin rogue thing anyway

Dies to air

[humble verge]

just run

[winged sun]

No feint = die and feint costs a ton of energy while sin needs energy too

[thin portal]

Atleasts it's not insta stun like trollingspree would be

[winged sun]

Great design

[humble verge]

mage instead of boomie

and then run disc

[spice surge]

Run cheat

[balmy condor]

okay so imagine this right, the % difference between those two items, might not be the same

[spice surge]

Saves you once atleast

[winged sun]

[balmy condor]

so you have to sim yourself to get an accurate answer

[spice surge]

?

Why you xdd

[hexed root]

would y'all run signet+hoc? or no because double on use?

[winged sun]

Wdym

U need elusiveness

[spice surge]

I mean sure the +20% on evasion is nice

Feint is 40% already

So elusiveness does nothing

In the entire dungeon¨'

[winged sun]

Idk man

Like

[spice surge]

Besides bleeds on first boss

[winged sun]

U die to casts

[modest gale]

ik, but asked just approx. how much so i know should i be finding guild

[winged sun]

And

Alot of shit

If u get a cast on u

U die

[modest gale]

if it was 0.8 for him i suppose it wont be 5% for me

[winged sun]

But elusiveness makes me immune to that

Going sub feels fine to me

[waxen oyster]

You can sim items you dont own

[hexed root]

elusiveness 10/10 better in higher keys

[waxen oyster]

rare hack

[winged sun]

No time loss atleast

Does same st

So why not

[spice surge]

Idk you play whatever you want, but everything in there besides stray casts and bleed on first boss feint works on by itself

[thin portal]

Sub is lower damage than sin rn?

More suvival?

[spice surge]

So might aswell just play cheat

[winged sun]

Might try it

Can i live last boss cast natty tho?

Sounds sketchy never tried

Will check not even close later

Might be a cook to try

Actually nah

No way

Im already dying on sub

Like

Theres no way cheat fixes it

[humble verge]

just play meta

for dfc

[fleet pagoda]

is Throw Darkflame considered aoe?

[spice surge]

I mean you have vanish, cloak and cheat

[winged sun]

Stupid boss idk why they dont nerf it again

[winged sun]

Vanish useless tho

Not playing subterfuge

[spice surge]

What

[winged sun]

I use vanish on sub its effective there atleast

[winged sun]

Wdym

Isnt it just soothing darkenss

Its just sub that has 10%

[spice surge]

You were talking about the cast on the last boss

Which you can just vanish

[winged sun]

Oh

Thought u were still talking about 3rd boss

No i mean like

Even with cheat

I’ll just die right after cheat ends

The boss rly hits hard

Rsham struggles if im sin

[worthy rose]

do the classic thing

blame healer

[winged sun]

We can pull it off but

[worthy rose]

"where heals???"

[winged sun]

Like

Sub is way easier

[ebon steppe]

Try captured starlight maybe

[winged sun]

Idk what that is cuh

[fleet pagoda]

or get a chromatic bomb suit with your chips

[ebon steppe]

Embellishment

But it has 3min cooldown

[winged sun]

Wait

That’s a really bad tech

Why not swap sub

Ez ?

[waxen oyster]

Today i realized

theres a trinket from rookery

thanks to vault

that isnt algari concordance

[worthy rose]

charged plume?

or the entropic core

[waxen oyster]

Yeah plume

[ebon steppe]

The dungeon gv slots this season are just a lot worse than ever

[waxen oyster]

didn't know something existed besides wish.com goonsquad

[ebon steppe]

too many garbage trinkets

[worthy rose]

gooner squad

[viscid spear]

[humble verge]

ill take the first set of shoulders

[ebon steppe]

Yeah kujo jotaro's anus

[viscid spear]

Are you crazy? I'm taking the trinket. I don't have Myth track trinkets

[humble verge]

no i said, ILL TAKE THE FIRST SET OF SHOULDERS

GIVE ME YOUR VAULT

[viscid spear]

But in all seriousness, the Cinderbrew shoudlers have Avoidance

Will just take those and Catalyze

[worthy rose]

catalyst the avoidance

do it

[worthy rose]

very based

[humble verge]

man

[viscid spear]

[humble verge]

im about to just buy a token

i have 22k

[humble verge]

i shouldnt have gambled last raid

[worthy rose]

very nice

[viscid spear]

I capped Gilded last week sadly, but time to have fun with no cap

[worthy rose]

farm alotta 12's

or 10s

10s easier but 12 gives more crests

[viscid spear]

I'm going to do 12s so I can buy Myth track trinkets

[worthy rose]

oh yeah resilisent 12's

seaforium and signet hype

[ebon glen]

Got myth seaforium in vault, saved me 3 dinars

[worthy rose]

based

[humble verge]

you guys get loot?

[ebon glen]

I make my GF open my vault while I touch her butt, ever since I started doing that I started getting good vault loot.

[royal lantern]

looting is illegal

report thise criminals to your local authorities

[worthy rose]

touch grass?

if it works it works

cant hate on it

[humble verge]

shut your whore mouth

sorry kind arude

[ebon glen]

Touch grass? That doesn't apply in this scenario at all? Like what

[inland escarp]

…

[worthy rose]

no the gr was crossed out

so it was "touch ass"

maybe harder to see on mobile

[ebon glen]

AHh ok that makes more sense lol

[hexed root]

wtb 2 more upgrade slots 😦

[spice spire]

Before marriage?

Miss me w that

[ebon glen]

nerd

[worthy rose]

holding hands before marriage is lewd

[coral ibex]

holy cow guys i didnt know this was an NSFW channel

[spice spire]

Dog that’s what I’m saying

[coral ibex]

[spice spire]

These mfs out of control

Just rawdogging premarital hand holding

I’m gonna be sick

[coral ibex]

my innocent eyes

[sudden brook]

We used to pray for times like this

[spice spire]

Freedom

[spice surge]

Smh my head blud doesnt already have the ring

[hexed root]

what the

doesnt that thing have haste

[coral ibex]

why would that be a bad thing

[runic hinge]

Haste is sick

[hidden bay]

I have the ring since 3 weeks or something and replaced circlet with it

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-triggered-gif-26561244

[hidden bay]

I have a better one

[coral ibex]

i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's i love running 12's

[ebon glen]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-steve-carell-brick-lamp-gif-5715014

[coral ibex]

surely all this grinding will translate to accelerated mugzee prog

[humble verge]

HES MY NEIGHBOUR

[hexed root]

i thought we hate haste as sin

[humble verge]

BROS AN OG

[fallow canopy]

some of us keep praying

[hidden bay]

It does, yes

[hexed root]

i haven't had any rings sim better then circlet/champion jastors yet

[balmy condor]

We don’t have bad stats

[balmy condor]

Me too man

[hidden bay]

All comes down to the rest of your gear

[hexed root]

gotcha

[hidden bay]

Maybe I equip it again, who knows

You know who knows?

Raidbots

[runic hinge]

I’m gonna run 26% haste as assa

[hidden bay]

My trusted source for gear

Check it out!

[dusky summit]

Are we replacing circlet with 665 jastors if i have a myth track fleshfused circle?

[humble verge]

im gonna eat a tub of lard

[spice surge]

If it sims higher, replace it

If not, dont

[fallow canopy]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uGwb21txUv3Js3qyWZQ6AK big 30 ilvl boost for 0.5%

[balmy condor]

Into the volcano with you

Not reading pins in 2025

[sudden brook]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mwtGPyxYhrHQ1LrQQWfaVf
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pYfpRMJnEw4TZvAczqN5CX

Dude this shit is so annoying

I get why, but stats being different with eye v pacemaker

[hexed root]

679?! sheeeessshh

[sudden brook]

Is so annoying

[hidden bay]

Maybe cuz…. Pacemaker gives heavy crit

And…. Eye mastery

[hidden bay]

No you don’t

[hexed root]

i heard we have no bad stats

🙂

[humble verge]

stop being a moron guy

smh

[balmy condor]

sorry that this is a rich and deep spec mr vers green text loserbro

[hexed root]

whispyr, whats wrong with your comcast

packet loss?

[hidden bay]

Guy still the same one as 6 years ago

[balmy condor]

capacity issues on my node

[hexed root]

do you have the top tier service?

speeds

[balmy condor]

🤨

[hexed root]

1gig vs like 500mbs

for example

[balmy condor]

are you seriously gonna try tech supporting me through discord rn

you cannot be serious

[fallow canopy]

tech support evolves with the times man

[hexed root]

i berated comcast for a couple months recently on issues they wouldn't fix

just wanna help

😦

[balmy condor]

yeah thanks so have I

[hidden bay]

Yeah. Tier Service. If we take the word tier from the German vocabulary which is translated into animal

[balmy condor]

what do you think you could do to fix my internet that the last 8 technicians couldn't

[hexed root]

i can't but if it's similar to my issue that 20 techs couldn't fix, but got fixed, maybe it's the same thing

had them run a cable off my balcony to troubleshoot

bypassed my entire apartment wiring

[humble verge]

what classes can i do to get thunderfury again

[hidden bay]

Don’t fall for it

[humble verge]

its rogue, warrior and shaman?

[hexed root]

became an issue with the node/signal that was broken but required some bullshit project/construction red tape

and I had the like 1.2gb speed package

[humble verge]

nvm rogue monk and dh?

[sudden brook]

Bro I dont have 15 items to carry around for each trinket setup

I can barely get a full perfect set

[hexed root]

i dropped down to 800mbs package and it's fixed

[sudden brook]

how tf am I making 2 perfect sets

GG

[balmy condor]

I'm getting ragebaited about my internet on a patch day when people are already ragebaiting me about circlet

[humble verge]

i rememeber when i had 2 sets

[hexed root]

and i only got that solution by the 21st tech who heard it from some other customer

[humble verge]

1 for m+ and 1 for raid

[hidden bay]

[humble verge]

good times

actually maybe it wasnt

i played too much

[hidden bay]

That’s what I have

[humble verge]

i only have trinket swap

[balmy condor]

Please leave me alone

[hidden bay]

Actually I only swap one ring and one trinket

[hexed root]

sorry for wanting to help 👍

[balmy condor]

I don't need discord tech support

[humble verge]

ok richboi

[hidden bay]

Hello sir, did you already try turning the node off and back on?

[balmy condor]

dude what else am I supposed to do

[hidden bay]

[humble verge]

move to a 2nd world country, not the US

amirite

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-joe-hendry-gif-13588265419480385996

[balmy condor]

idc bout but when I said I didn't need the help didn't work I mean might as well post the fucking voicemail idk what else to do

link the ticket

give him the number of my case manager

tf dude

[humble verge]

oh

sorry i dont read between the lines

[hidden bay]

Give me every info needed so I can call em and say everything is fine they don’t have to come next month

[humble verge]

im listening to ASMR

[hidden bay]

[hexed root]

that was the same bullshit they fed me

[worthy rose]

why are htey feeding u bullshit

do u identify as a farm crop

[hexed root]

because companies dont care about their customers

[frank trench]

so has anyone figured out a break point where circlet isnt bis lol

[royal lantern]

sim

sim

sim

[frank trench]

i am

[fallow canopy]

when sims says the word

[royal lantern]

[frank trench]

i want to know if ANYONE has found it

where it actually happened

[balmy condor]

a breakpoint when a ring isn't bis

jesus fucking christ

this day just keeps getting worse

[fallow canopy]

breathe

[frank trench]

look im notasking when to get rid of it i want to know if anyone had it get out simmed

[royal lantern]

another comcast message has hit your mailbox

[frank trench]

jesus

calm down friends

[balmy condor]

dude how am I supposed to breathe when every time I open this channel it's the new dumbest shit I've read today

[haughty flicker]

[hexed root]

dont open it?

[frank trench]

reroll to beast mastery?

[fallow canopy]

yes at some point

[frank trench]

cool thank you

[balmy condor]

yeah maybe just don't open it

[runic hinge]

Yeah the point is where the sim says equip a different ring. Found it.

[balmy condor]

fucking unreal how stupid class discords get the moment anything changes even a little bit

all logic just gone

[fallow canopy]

can't even ragebait properly these days when people are geniunely asking the ragebait questions smh my head

[runic hinge]

Real

I can’t even be silly with the amount of brainrot now

[hexed root]

are the corruption sims out yet? /s

[frank trench]

how is it ragebait if i am asking if ANYONE IN THE DISCORD has had the thing finally get outsimmed

[royal lantern]

laeR

[humble verge]

honestly

the best sim without circlet seems to be cauldron + jastor

[humble verge]

atleast for me

[balmy condor]

what does "some if not most"

mean to you

[humble verge]

i feel we might see a lot of the cauldron+jastor ring combo soon

but maybe im wrong

[balmy condor]

YEAH MAYBE WE MIGHT

SOME

IF

NOT

MOIST

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[humble verge]

whisp

[fallow canopy]

oh no hes losing it

[humble verge]

i think you need your afternoon nap buddy

get comfort from your gf or something idk

man

[haughty flicker]

real

[balmy condor]

I think I need people to turn on their bodies from the neck up

[royal lantern]

its in the pins

people ask it every 10min

its literally just a sim angle, if you have a mythic ring just sim it and compare that way, idk what more you actually want there

[frank trench]

i guess the real question is does anyone want to test my rupture and garotte tracker

[humble verge]

when are you changing back to of mentally unstable

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[balmy condor]

whats max slow mode a channel can go

[humble verge]

like 12h i think

or 24h?

[balmy condor]

maybe just turn off all messages

just block messages entirely

[humble verge]

just remove the channel

[haughty flicker]

last garf

[humble verge]

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

it's not like any convo in the last 7 hours has not been answered in a guide, a sim, or a pin

whats the fucking point anymore

[hexed root]

you know you dont need to answer everyones question especially if tthey frustrate you that much

[worthy rose]

[humble verge]

dont tell whisp what to do

[frank trench]

i mean the enchance shaman leads just posts stuff and yolos out

[balmy condor]

bro will you get off my ass mr tech support

[worthy rose]

is the upgrade ladder mainhand > trinkets > offhand > mainpieces

[humble verge]

whisp is the only one who cares about his chat

well also Fuu ig

[hexed root]

yea I hate helping those that have helped me

😦

[worthy rose]

thats why we love whispyr

[humble verge]

nah i hate his stanky ass

[worthy rose]

whispyr of the discord, what is your wisdom

[balmy condor]

it's mainhand > trinkets > main pieces > side pieces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off hand

[worthy rose]

wait

wtf

is the offhand really that low prio

[humble verge]

yes

[worthy rose]

but mutilate hits with both

[royal lantern]

yes

[humble verge]

its just a stat stick

bruh

[royal lantern]

not how dmg calculation works

[balmy condor]

worst slot in the game across all dps specs across every class, yes

[royal lantern]

dmg calculation is more or less just mainhand for the weapon dmg part

offhand is a statstick and nothing more

[worthy rose]

so what you are saying

is when i play outlaw

i can just use a warglaive for cosmetics

instead of my everforged stabber

[royal lantern]

dont

[balmy condor]

the only thing I can think of that's a lesser dps upgrade than an offhand dagger for rogues is like

[fallow canopy]

1st mistake

[worthy rose]

[balmy condor]

a healer wrist

or a tank trinket

or something

[worthy rose]

its crackup coz when i play subtlety i barely ever press the 1.5min cd button

forgot wha tits called

and i wonder why my dps so low

LOL

[balmy condor]

intellect offhands at least have big main stat

[worthy rose]

when i started using it my dps shot up

[balmy condor]

offhand daggers have nothing

[worthy rose]

outlaw to me is confusing af

coz its like

outlaw feels like a combination of two playstyles into one

coz outlaw has the base playstyle which is like what old combat used to be

[balmy condor]

the problem is you're not fucking helping, you're just pissing me off

[worthy rose]

but then you get procs and you suddenly become an american

and start blasting ur glock

pistol shot and BTE

its like 50/50 between old combat and whatever this new gunslinger thing is

[hexed root]

chill out

sorry it pissed you off

[worthy rose]

whispyr has spent too long being the hero

he needs his villain arc for a bit

[balmy condor]

is outlaw still dagger offhand for like 50 more poison procs in a fight

or did they find new green text

[worthy rose]

i thought it was dagger to trigger more attacks for energy regen

thats what ive been told and read in guides

[balmy condor]

energy regen? that shits all normalized no

[runic hinge]

Yeah it’s dagger for poison procs

[fresh kelp]

energy is normalized and has been for a while

[balmy condor]

yeah okay that's what I thought

[worthy rose]

wat da f

my guides outdated af

[royal lantern]

mugzee weapon?

[balmy condor]

bro's reading a wod guide

[balmy condor]

oh true that's a fist

yeah okay rip dagger offhand then

[runic hinge]

They use the thing from the new hallowfall thing that is good in m+

[royal lantern]

idk if another green text weapon existsnthey want

[runic hinge]

Resets on vanish

Cudgel

[royal lantern]

thats such a outlaw thing

everyone using real gear

outlaw? shity worldquest stuff

[runic hinge]

Then a weapon swap macro for bosses

[royal lantern]

cus it has green text

EVERY SINGLE TIME

[balmy condor]

how does outlaw get worse

[snow hamlet]

Fatal Flourish not equal shadow tech

[runic hinge]

Hmm

[snow hamlet]

Not equal

[wide ferry]

oh shit heroic signet simming higher than HOC?

Wut theee

Everyone goin w jastors? I know i know i gotta sim

[snow hamlet]

Not really for everyone

[runic hinge]

Do you want me to design them to be worse or is this rhetorical

[hidden bay]

Surely there’s gonna be a button to change amount of people with signet in your group, right?

[balmy condor]

rhetorical

[balmy condor]

I don't think anyone on the simc dev team could care enough for an extra 2 sockets worth of stats

[hollow wren]

Ik this isn't the discord for this but can I ask anyone here who knows about Vengeance Demon Hunter?

One small piece of info?

[hidden bay]

Go to the felhammer, everyone is cracked there

Here’s only dumb people

[runic hinge]

Crazy

[hollow wren]

Going

[hidden bay]

[runic hinge]

[uncut bluff]

Anyone have any recommendations for BIS trinkets? I keep seeing so many conflicting things. Wowhead says Mechano-core amplifier and house or cards. But it seems like all the new curio vewners list house of cards and Eye of Kezan

[hidden bay]

[humble verge]

house of cards/signet + pacemaker

is what most people will go

[waxen oyster]

warcraftlogs.com

[humble verge]

but also then again

just sim the trinkets too

[waxen oyster]

hmm here seems to be a recurring trends

of trinkets

[balmy condor]

cursed to make bis lists

blessed to make pins and info and everything other than bis lists

cursed to have people not read any of it and just jump to bis lists

[hidden bay]

Change name to check pins

👍

[waxen oyster]

I wonder when people will realize

that trinket tierlists often assume

the same track on the item

turns out 13 ilvl matters

[balmy condor]

I mean it's not even that

[hidden bay]

[balmy condor]

it's just mechano-core is huge

[waxen oyster]

Yeah mechano+energy drink

[balmy condor]

but realisitcally unless you have that exact piece of gear

deadge

[waxen oyster]

are both massive

[hidden bay]

Where mythic track mechano core

[balmy condor]

it's just typical bis list cringe

[waxen oyster]

tier list is cringe

[balmy condor]

but what the hell am I supposed to do

[wise plume]

if i could get my hands on a mechanocore

[waxen oyster]

it should have just been wowhead saying

"take one of these from this category"

"and one from this category"

[balmy condor]

I put bad trinket in bis list, I lose cause "not bis no one use"

I put good trinket in bis list, I lose cause "but what about this thing that sims higher"

[hexed root]

if you know the info is true, care less

ezpz

[balmy condor]

I actually suggested this instead

but that doesn't work for a lot of specs

and also sucks for SEO

BiS lists exist purely because they are MASSIVE engagement bait

like unreal amounts of engagement bait

that's why it's gone from 1 bis list to 3

3 lists

more bait than 1 list

[wise plume]

i just look at murlok

[balmy condor]

that's even worse

[wise plume]

😭

[balmy condor]

is this ragebait or just not knowing better

I can't tell today

[wise plume]

not knowing better

[balmy condor]

yah murlok is gigashit

[wise plume]

the risks i take are calculated, but im bad at math

[balmy condor]

half the time it's people logging out with random fuckass gear cause they raided

[wise plume]

i use murlok purely for gear

trinkets specifically

[balmy condor]

well

yeah

the whole "kezan in m+ good????????????" thing

[wise plume]

oh yea no

[balmy condor]

is because murlok io

pushed kezan

[wise plume]

LMAO

[balmy condor]

cause at the start of the season

all the high end raiders and whatever

just did they raid with kezan

logged out after raid

and murlok scraped their characters

and said yep kezan

[wise plume]

and then ppl run kezan in keys and their damage is chalked

[balmy condor]

yeh

we love data aggregation websites just mindlessly scraping player data with 0 context

[wise plume]

if zero is using priory/pacemaker in a 19, so am i

[balmy condor]

very cool and epic world we live in

[hidden bay]

Bro doesn’t have anything better

[hexed root]

i mean signet/pacemaker are good

[hidden bay]

And there’s nothing better

[waxen oyster]

The average person failing to realize

they wont see kezan either

until 3-4 months in

tbh whats stupider is people looking for "bis" in random slots like belt/boots

[balmy condor]

my favorite is the people that look at archon for gear, see that crafted dagger is most used in both slots

and then double craft dagger

fucking idiots

[hidden bay]

Somehow I sim more with my gear than with whispyr BIS list?????

[normal mist]

Then you explain what bis really means and get the reply "but Archon says X"

[balmy condor]

yeah reasonable

I wrote the bis list from a PTR sim

and then never updated

so

[normal mist]

XD

Based

[hidden bay]

You know who would update that instantly?

[wise plume]

i crafted daggers bc ive legit never seen a myth one in my vault

big sad

[hidden bay]

The felhammer guys

[waxen oyster]

Idk why people are so allergic to using raidbots

[viscid spear]

[waxen oyster]

i crafted a dagger first because ascension is good/reliable

[normal mist]

Maybe they are stuck in the old days

[hidden bay]

Finally you can buy Azerokk

[waxen oyster]

then got myth track dagger in first 2/3 vaults

[wise plume]

raidbots $5 sub is WELL worth it, plus you get to skip the line on reset

[normal mist]

Where you could realistically be bis with raid items

[waxen oyster]

Like 10+ years ago?

[normal mist]

Yes

[balmy condor]

I mean free version is more than fine

[humble verge]

people ever thinking kezan was good for m+ must be drunk idk

[hidden bay]

Kezan is good

[wise plume]

yea i just hate getting stuck in a 587/587 queue on reset

[balmy condor]

realistically 99.8% of people don't need more than the free version

[hidden bay]

Just requires Tank to pull accordingly

[humble verge]

just leech of someone else

[runic hinge]

I pay them 5$ cause I sim a bunch cause it’s fun and cool

[waxen oyster]

Yeah you really dont need more than free raidbots

[runic hinge]

And I appreciate their work

[normal mist]

To be fair, most people don't even know HOW to sim

[viscid spear]

Was tight too
Tank, healer, and the Enh Shaman died to Micro Missiles
Me and the Frost DK finished him off, fortunately he was at 4% and went into a Gatling Gun

[waxen oyster]

frost dk

in 2025

[viscid spear]

If we had wiped there it would've been cooked

[hidden bay]

I need 15 mil iterations so I can sim daily replace gems

[spice surge]

How will i ever sim literally every single gem so i can see that its all within margin anyway and nothing else matters

If i dont have premium

[runic hinge]

Real

[viscid spear]

Bro he did Grippy hands on the first pull after Rixxa

[waxen oyster]

I just gem mastery

[runic hinge]

Need premium

[viscid spear]

WITH THE BOMBS

[waxen oyster]

bigger envenom bigger dopamine

[waxen oyster]

dk dps players acting like limb does relevant dam

well it kind of does for blood

but thats about it

[runic hinge]

@drifting cloud

[viscid spear]

He killed two of us by gripping bombs into us

[worthy rose]

i fucking

doubel crafted dagger

because my dumbass friends last season told me to

and im like

buuuuuut

then theyr like nah nha just do it

and i fell for the trap

💀

but thats ok

[balmy condor]

[worthy rose]

but to be fair

i was swimming in excess fractured omens

and i had excess gilded by the end of the season

so it didnt really matter either way

[balmy condor]

yah I mean it's fine to craft

just

as literally the last item ever

[worthy rose]

fair enough

so im gonna levae my offhand at 675 then

my mianhand i already upped to 684 this morning by converting shit crests

based

trinkets next

also why tf does this runed +3 thing exist

[balmy condor]

for runed crafts

[worthy rose]

isnt this just dead content on arrival

who tf is gonna buy that

apparently its gonna work for all gear

[balmy condor]

people who don't gilded craft

[worthy rose]

so a 675 could go to 678

[worthy rose]

badiators

[waxen oyster]

crafting offhand on alts without much else to make is fine

[pure moth]

You need new friends.

[waxen oyster]

but its so low prio

[worthy rose]

yeah i dont play with those guys much anymore

[pure moth]

Good

[worthy rose]

but theyre also some of the server toppers

which is crazy

[waxen oyster]

Like if you already had mythic ilvl cloak boots belt bracers offpiece ring neck

then offhand aint bad

[worthy rose]

what i aim to do every season is mythic mainpieces with crafted offpieces and weapons

and heroic or mythic trinkets depending on my luck

this season im far ahea dof the curve of what i normally am at

even my ratting priest is ahead ofthe curve

they made gearing easy this season which i appreciate

no pun intended

aotc

[viscid spear]

Can someone explain how I'm supposed to handle the DoT on Gorren in Rookery? I always feel like I mess it up

[worthy rose]

you pass it to someone else

make sure you and the other person dont have two or more stacks of it

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i mean you got 31 gildeds a week from delves

[worthy rose]

sometimes you can give the tank the second or third dot if theres no one else you can pass it to

[balmy condor]

you'll find that generally speaking the people who just yolo game 24/7 endlessly with no life are the ones that come up with the most mindboggling misinformation

[worthy rose]

otherwise just cloak it

[waxen oyster]

which meant you could make a 675 every 2 weeks

on a character that never raids or keys

[worthy rose]

this is actually so true

holy shit

this is why i come to this discord