assassination

[balmy condor]

That was self defense and you fucking know it man

[hidden bay]

[balmy condor]

Monday

[hidden bay]

Fuuuuuuuck

[golden loom]

Big globb is a cold blooded murderer that is protecting that psycho lockenstock

[coral ibex]

was it self defense when he chased my buddy down and choked him to death with his globby hands???

i watched the life leave his eyes

[hidden bay]

||I wish whispyr would choke me with his globby hands||

[thorn thorn]

Caught in 4k

[balmy condor]

My uber driver just got to a red light and put his shit in park

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/mhw-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-finger-point-gif-15920010080149579513

[balmy condor]

This dudes a demon what the fuck

[coral ibex]

nah that's tech

[balmy condor]

Real

[hidden bay]

Not again

[coral ibex]

you get to imagine you're a racecar driver as you rip it into gear when it turns green

[balmy condor]

Dude he put it in second, turned left, ended up at the next intersection

Back to park

Diabolical work

Bro just loves shifting gears

[thorn thorn]

He is an evil mastermind

Do not let him fool you

[balmy condor]

We’re demonizing globbicus when monsters like my uber driver are just allowed to roam free? Talk about hypocrisy

[thorn thorn]

Correct

Shame on nooj

[balmy condor]

The constitution is under attack from the radical capitalist goblins

[thorn thorn]

And your uber driver is the mastermind

SEE

I TOLD YOU

[balmy condor]

All the puzzle pieces are fitting

[twin raven]

someone designed the Ovinax fight and is still out there free

[golden loom]

Stix Uberdriver

[spice spire]

Big glob doesn’t want you to know this

[coral ibex]

look at the hatred being spewed by the RADICAL WOKE pro-globbs

goblin lives matter

[balmy condor]

Okay but the guy that designed that fight was off the black blood at the time he’s clean now

[thorn thorn]

Ya, im woke, woke up at noon today

[golden loom]

More bandit prog tomorrow, the big globeration wants me to become a gambling addict!!!

[thorn thorn]

Clean or not he must answer for his crimes

[balmy condor]

Has the guy not suffered enough, it’s about rehabilitation not retaliation man

How is he supposed to move on

[thorn thorn]

Correct, he could suffer so much more

Same with the guy who made stix

He is next

[golden loom]

Same psycho

[thorn thorn]

I FUCKIN KNEW IT

[golden loom]

Repeat offender...

Off to the gulag I think

[twin raven]

he needs help fs

[coral ibex]

how many innocent lives is one globbicus worth?

[spice spire]

Seconded

[coral ibex]

how many more need to die?

if you or i were going around with a kill count as astronomic and gruesome as his, we would be exiled to the moon

[balmy condor]

If I recall correctly nooj it was your actions that caused sargeras to stab all of silithus

And yet you still walk

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-there's-nothing-we-can-do-napoleon-pyritesian-gif-17490332095914688011

[golden loom]

No he was aiming for globb and bubbles

[viscid spear]

Put him in the Karazhan catacombs

[coral ibex]

the bugs had it coming

[sharp viper]

there's so much stuff down there already, gonna get crowded

[balmy condor]

Would an archeological dig site in ahnqiraj be sick like as an archeology revamp

It sounds sick in my head

[sharp viper]

have you ever done archeology in wow?

[coral ibex]

yea i think a lot of people would pog

[golden loom]

Actually Sargeras got told to farm silithus bugs for his GMs scarab mount when classic would launch 3 years later and just tried to destroy silithus instead

[balmy condor]

Yes

I’m an old head

Wod archeology with the faction artifacts

[sharp viper]

[lethal arrow]

Rogue bis next patch comes from archeology

[golden loom]

Floodgate was a failure, put bubbles and globb into the stockades

[spice spire]

Holy fuck grandpa let’s just put you back in a home

[lethal arrow]

I bet grandpa has the challenge mode gold rewards too

[thorn thorn]

Wow

Grandpa Whispyr tell us stories of the older days of wow

The good ol days

[strange tundra]

is it worth doing one armed bandit for the dagger to get it with cartel chips or will any mythic track dagger do, im thinking it will be only 0,1% dps increase

[buoyant herald]

if your guild can kill OAB then you're gonna get the dagger natty first time it drops, using a chip on it seems wild - esp if you're already using a 675 crafted in MH

[solar wyvern]

The dagger is probably less than .1% if you're already using the rik reverb dagger

[strange tundra]

i dont even play raids i only do m+, i have this atm

and the crafted one for OH

[solar wyvern]

Go sim it against OaB but thats more than sufficient tbh

[lethal arrow]

youre better off getting HoC

or just saving them

[strange tundra]

probably save them idk

[golden loom]

I mean oab dagger is nothing special?

[lethal arrow]

yeah it p much does nothing

[golden loom]

Myth dagger like myth dagger

[lethal arrow]

if you kill rik reverb on mythic that daggers fine

[strange tundra]

yea i think it wont matter what dagger

[lethal arrow]

(gl pugging that boss tho)

[golden loom]

I mean ???

He has a dagger

[strange tundra]

better spend the chips to something else

[gilded oasis]

Basically old as dirt

[spice spire]

You’re one to talk Zar

[gilded oasis]

[eternal drift]

thanks, it feels like a worthy trade off

[spare lodge]

why my caustic spatter no apply?

[short tangle]

maybe wrong poison or rupture missing

[spare lodge]

ur huge

[short tangle]

happend one time, though spec was broken, and then realised i had wrong poison

smashed my head about 20min to find out

[shy heron]

Happens to the best of us

[winged sun]

hows the boss dmg

[candid nacelle]

https://gyazo.com/2f752d09d1e1a4f19a65665b92248534

Wondering how my sanguine blades and sudden demise are doing more damage

[tall atlas]

31m demise?

[clever sparrow]

what build you guys use on TOP?

[ebon glen]

I cannot get my demise that high. Feel like most dungeons I'm in its overall is around 260-300 mil fml

[tall atlas]

idk how or where ithappened

but i really wanna know

[strange tundra]

depends on key level i think

[ebon glen]

True I suppose. I mostly run 12s/13s and a few 14 attempts since i switched to bleed build.

[strange tundra]

same i run 14s and 15s and my SD is around 350-400m always

[clever sparrow]

how much is the dmg difference of bleed build if i hold energy +50%?

[balmy condor]

Usually always gonna be deathmark target dying

[balmy condor]

Like 0.2%

[clever sparrow]

lol gotcha

not worth to focus on it then

[balmy condor]

It’s less that it’s a must have gain

And more than like

Hybrid loses damage in st being above 50%

While bleed doesn’t

Would be a better way to frame it

[clever sparrow]

im kinda lost tbh

about talent names

since the start

i thought bleed build is the one that use right + mid side

[balmy condor]

No

[shy stream]

does anyone know how impactful it is to play bleed vs hybrid in a comp with MotW, battle shout, and mystic touch?

[balmy condor]

Hybrid is amp poison/poison bomb/dragon tempered

[clever sparrow]

ahh

[balmy condor]

Probably makes bleed like 1% stronger but you shouldn’t really care that much tbh

[clever sparrow]

so i like the bleed one

lol

[balmy condor]

Bleed is left/right

[shy stream]

thank you!! 🙂

[clever sparrow]

how you comfort your self when you play bleed on boss?

[normal mist]

pressing ambush

with the procs

[keen spruce]

[cerulean walrus]

Slamming DM when the boss is in execute

And ambush procs

[clever sparrow]

lol

but im some times

900 / 1 mil dmg

on st

[near lark]

Since Thistle Tea's gone passive, is their any further decision making with it other than using 1 charge on your second shiv during big kingsbane?

[clever sparrow]

it RUIN

literaly

RUIN my overall

[near lark]

(In ST)

[normal mist]

not really

[cerulean walrus]

Don’t think about it

[near lark]

Gotcha

[cerulean walrus]

Just macro it to shiv and don’t think

Just drink

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[near lark]

Oh great macro

thank you

[clever sparrow]

OK i HATE hybrid build

its not op on aoe

😦

and not op in st

just medium

[cerulean walrus]

That’s what we told you?

Before?

You’re never going to be good in ST brother just embrace the shit and then shit on packs

[near lark]

People out here talking about builds inb M+ while I'm still trying to make a plater profile where I can see my bleeds properly without my screen being cracked XD

[clever sparrow]

SO WHATS THE POINT OF PLAYING HYBRID WHEN ITS NOT GOOD ON ST

[hollow river]

(There isn’t any)

[fresh mica]

was more than usual but nothing crazy

[clever sparrow]

its like ruining your S- AOE for a B- ST

[clever sparrow]

(im happy)

cause i was heared that hybrid is better on high keys

[cerulean walrus]

It’s technically better once you get to like 18s but who cares

Just demise max

[clever sparrow]

doing 13

[cerulean walrus]

And chill

Yeah not high enough bud

[clever sparrow]

im not understanding demise

ok it deals dmg

[cerulean walrus]

Big bleeda

[clever sparrow]

but its not like you can play around with it

it just do its job normaly

nothing to min max

[cerulean walrus]

You definitely can

Fuck it vanish refresh garrote and rupture into CT and giga demise for the meme

Smack a little shivvy shiv

Dead

[clever sparrow]

you mean doing it on a 30% mob??

isnt it a VERY BIG WASTE?

[cerulean walrus]

It’s a single vanish charge wtf else you gonna do?

Cry about a restealth?

[clever sparrow]

HMMM

[clever sparrow]

+++++

[near lark]

Who gets restealths

KEK

[clever sparrow]

tanks chain pull!

[cerulean walrus]

Restealth

[clever sparrow]

one more thing

[Caustic Spatter]

bleed build

is it even a thing?

its low af on my dps meter

literaly after all of my bleeds

[cerulean walrus]

Imagine not realizing that you can still stealth if tanks go into another pack cause you aren’t in combat with them yet

If you hang back for 2 seconds

[near lark]

Until your tank pulls the pack into the other pack

[clever sparrow]

EH

[near lark]

to really meme on your ass

[clever sparrow]

THATS WHAT THEY DO!

[cerulean walrus]

That is the good meme

[near lark]

And then you say it, please let me get a restealth, big dampaclaut

then this motherfucker does a /break 30seconds between each pull

[royal lantern]

im leveling a tank rn

fuck you

im pulling

learn your class

[clever sparrow]

we pullin?

[near lark]

Pug = Keep Vanish

[cerulean walrus]

!chainpull

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
• Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
• Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[near lark]

Guild group = SEND VANISH DAMPACLAUT

[cerulean walrus]

People crutch on carnage so fucking badly man it’s crazy LOL

[unreal tide]

you still wana open ambush if you're deathmark build, check wowhead guide has writen and timeline views for openers

[near lark]

Let my life be easy 😦

[clever sparrow]

does rogue have major cd?

[normal mist]

[clever sparrow]

1minute cd KB

isnt major tbh

😄

[dreamy rover]

Deathmakr

Mark

Deathamrl

Desthmark

Deathmark

[normal mist]

bingo

[cerulean walrus]

Nailed it

[dreamy rover]

2min cd

[unreal tide]

1st try

[clever sparrow]

DEATH MARK >

so yes you envenom right before KB

if you use raid build

1 envenom before kb

[unreal tide]

if you're running KB, have envenom buff running before sending it

[clever sparrow]

1 right after

thats what i learned from time lines tho

[normal mist]

envenom b4 KB is to guarantee you start KB with envenom buff, and you can't let it drop basically

[clever sparrow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[normal mist]

while ALWAYS being autoattacking the KB target

Depends

[robust thorn]

How important is Envenom in AoE with Bleed Build? It seems like the rotation guide implies "not very", just wanted to make sure that was the case.

[normal mist]

It isnt

[unreal tide]

if you're extra energy and still keeping sang, send it

[cerulean walrus]

You don’t vanish in raid build unless you’re running MA/Imp Garrote

[normal mist]

In AoE you're always energy cap

in raid depends on the build

if VV or MA

[cerulean walrus]

You send your vanishes when you feel you need them

In M+

Very flexible

[normal mist]

VV makes vanish very flexible

[unreal tide]

in M+ ur using it more for bleed spread or some MA boss damage. or if you screw up ur mark can us it to get it back so ppl don't have to stop and let you re

has some nice uses on boss mechanics as well

[normal mist]

yes

atleast 5 ruptures

then go crazy on spatter

you're doing +2s?

fok most likely giving you 4/5 cps per cast in AoE packs

[unreal tide]

don't need max stacks rups either, just fok rup tab

[clever sparrow]

will sudden demise always proc on 35%?

[deft vault]

is there a way to sim flasks? or do i need to do 3 separate sims?

[normal mist]

use chaos and call it a day

[humble verge]

i think, since im probably not gonna get hoc from raid

ill just pick up signet

[near lark]

I'm 50 priorys in and yet to get a signet, I envy you man

[humble verge]

i dont even wanna pick i tup

thatsd the thing

id rather get shoulders

and then suck loot councils dick

and get hoc

and im good

[near lark]

ah but you'll see those

[humble verge]

for the rest of the tier prolly

[near lark]

But I feel ya

[humble verge]

shoulders+

?

[buoyant herald]

mythic signet is barely behind myth hoc, why wouldn't you take it? unless you're first in line for hoc when your guild kills it

[near lark]

We're killing OAB Monday, I won't see HOC till Dinars

[humble verge]

only 3 dungs give shoulders

sadge

[near lark]

Ya but first boss drops shoulders

[humble verge]

surely i get shoulders from m+ vault

dawg

were extending

kekw

[near lark]

OOOF

[humble verge]

they wanna finish before june

idk if we'll do reclears

nor do icare

[near lark]

I'd take signet

[humble verge]

as long as i get CE im good

yeah im upgrading it rn

[near lark]

signet will be a difference maker in OAB

[humble verge]

SURELY

[near lark]

That execute deathmark with signet

creamy

[humble verge]

but holey

671 now

gaming

[near lark]

gamer

I rerolled to rogue (cause our rogue went on holidays), and I've not see a single Mythic piece.. It feels so sad I'm only 670 atm D:

[humble verge]

not seen a single

dawg

[near lark]

YOU FEEL MY PAIN

[humble verge]

ive gotten a bunch

[coral ibex]

"only 670"

[humble verge]

but i feel ive still gotten fuckall

3 weeks in a row iwth socket

we

well

[near lark]

I've had to upgrade every item to 665. I've gotten nothing at 665 and above yet

[humble verge]

2 + i picked up a ring for free crest upgrades but

[near lark]

Also, every rik reverb kill we got before our rogue went on holidays, 1 dagger min

haven't seen a dagger in 4 kills

KKE

[humble verge]

i have 1 extra rik dagger in bags

[strange tundra]

just buy it from someone

[humble verge]

honestly

i got priory

first week of m+ runs lmao

[near lark]

I did drop 1mil on Sac last season

I did 70+ runs or some shit

[humble verge]

but then i also got hoc first bandit normal kill we did

[near lark]

saw it and dropped 1mil

[polar rampart]

got it from my first vault

[near lark]

My weekly farming of signet is tomorrow, I'

I'll keep ya posted

[strange tundra]

i was doing 7s for signet, and 1st dungeon some guy dropped it and i offered him 25k for it
there was a dh in the group that was on his 30th run and wanted it but i bought it

[near lark]

OOOF

Laying down the law

[humble verge]

honestly

even if i didnt have hoc

[near lark]

I set up 8 runs last week with everyone having a 665 signet

no one got it

[humble verge]

i wouldnt bother doing prio to farm signet

[near lark]

I was minging

[coral ibex]

dropping 1m on a hero track trinket is crazy work

[humble verge]

the dung is dog

im dog

people who do it are dog

[near lark]

I needed freedom man

[humble verge]

the first pull is dog

[strange tundra]

just spam 7s and pray for vault to get myth track

[near lark]

Spent like 4 full weeks of the patch in Ara

[strange tundra]

thats what i am doing

[near lark]

I wanted to kms in game

[humble verge]

yeah, i got it 3 times in a row, first for me, then for my friend, and then for another one

[strange tundra]

i've had luck with trinkets i dont wanna jinx it

[coral ibex]

you could have done any of the other dungeons that had good rinkets

like db

[humble verge]

and then i didnt even use it

[near lark]

In fairness, I got a big trinket that patch first vault so like it wasn't awful but still. Freedom

[humble verge]

so like

[near lark]

So like, I just needed Sacbrood to pair with it

[humble verge]

i never got skardyn from vault

so me getting signet

ill just take it

icl

[near lark]

Got it week 1

Now I have only seen Remant all season

[strange tundra]

wont we get ara season 3?

[near lark]

My penance

[humble verge]

we dont even know yet

it was just a vote

[strange tundra]

i thoguht there was some polls oh

aight

[near lark]

Probably going to

[humble verge]

the hting is

was it a blue post poll

or wowhead poll

??

[near lark]

Blue post I think

[strange tundra]

in the forum

idk

[humble verge]

hm ok

[near lark]

they were putting out feelers for WW dungeons

[strange tundra]

i just dont wanna get dawnbreaker i hate that dung so much even if its fast to time

[humble verge]

wait wtf

[strange tundra]

i spammed it so much to gear up my pala tank that i hate it

[near lark]

in before I need to farm Signet & Sacbrood next season

[humble verge]

OKC already won with a sweep

[near lark]

Bois, pray for me

[humble verge]

idk

so many more better choices

[strange tundra]

i will give u 25k if u wanna buy it

[shy heron]

It's miserable but quick. That's its only redeeming value

[humble verge]

than getting sacbrood

[strange tundra]

yea

[humble verge]

it wasnt even that good in the end

[near lark]

and I'll buy it back for 1mil

[humble verge]

atleast i was offered 100k for the queen trinket

like

half through the fucking tier lmao

idk why i got 100k

[strange tundra]

lm,fao

[near lark]

Mandate sucked

[gloomy heart]

holy pumpage in a 10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1338342429681516614/1365825710408597564/image.png?ex=680eb7d1&is=680d6651&hm=5a5a33885a48fc8dcc78be33df5af53a57c01cecc4bab67bb51326669f53edb5&

[humble verge]

only good for sub

imo

[strange tundra]

rogue pumps so hard

and ppl think we are not meta

[humble verge]

we arent

no good util

[gloomy heart]

im only 662 i need more gear

[humble verge]

the only thing we come with are shroud and tricks

[strange tundra]

i thought meta is crazy dmg

[humble verge]

nah

meta is

[strange tundra]

the whole package?

[humble verge]

crazy damage, utility, great CC, survivability, actually good at your class

we dont really have great CC

well

[shy heron]

We take those paychecks

[humble verge]

kidney and blind is great

[shy heron]

See also why I continue to do normal gallywix

[humble verge]

but then again, beam, roots and what not better

[strange tundra]

i just put this shit and pray i get in a group

[humble verge]

sorry, i decline you

[shy heron]

That's simply asking too much

[humble verge]

i decline those out of spite

[strange tundra]

its been working since i use it

[humble verge]

the real workaround

have good logs, high score, high ilvl

[strange tundra]

i timed 4 14s today, usually it would take me days

[humble verge]

and u good

noice

[strange tundra]

i have that

[humble verge]

and also

[strange tundra]

but need the note too

[humble verge]

just get carried through not being bothered doing keys, but your s1 group wants to do some keys so i got like 3 15s 1 night

yes

[strange tundra]

thats good

i just wanna do all 15s and chill

but i only play on wekends

too much work

[near lark]

I hit 3k and don't care anymore

It's all about raid for me personally

each to their own and all taht

[humble verge]

m+ second job

[strange tundra]

i couldnt find a guild that plays saturday or sunday, also greek guild

so i dont raid at all

[near lark]

There's a yoke tonne of greeks in my guild, but not sat or sun gamers

sadge

[humble verge]

theres a sat/sun guild

but they are like top 100

[strange tundra]

those the 9-5 people

that play midweek

i work random hours each day

so dont have a schedule

[near lark]

anyway, sims done, bed time night bois

[strange tundra]

gn 👨🏿‍❤️‍👨🏿

[humble verge]

https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/tarren-mill/this+is+fine

kinda wack that its 1-5pm but

idk if ure EU

[strange tundra]

i havent played since legion i raided with greek guild mostly because it was funny, there was some 50 year old people playing at the store with a laptop and they were like "brb i have customers"

[humble verge]

ome

[strange tundra]

yea i am eu i will check

top 100 kek

cba sweating for raids

and m+ at the same time

with a tight scheduel

[clever sparrow]

I STILL CANT UNDERSTAND SD ON BOSSES!

its not working on them

[royal lantern]

i mean, bosses have a high hp pool

[winged sun]

#1 secured

[clever sparrow]

even with impovered garrote + Death mark + priory trinket?

[royal lantern]

yes?

[clever sparrow]

DAMN

[royal lantern]

mate, you need to do a 150% overkill lol

look at boss hp

[clever sparrow]

😦

[clever sparrow]

its not even in my dmg done tho

not even dealt 200k

[scarlet orbit]

Do you look at details? Because there the "last hit" often gets not counted into the dmg in a boss but blinks up after you kill the boss quick and then goes away dunno why

[clever sparrow]

AHH

it may be the reason then

gotcha

[halcyon charm]

quick question, im playing assa again after a looooong break. in m+ do i need to tab target and garrote and rupture or if i still to one target and spam it will it spread to others that dont have it?

[clever sparrow]

it spreads on target that you dont have

but you loss 1 rupture / garrote

so you refresh Main target and spread to 2 other

but if you swap target

you put on 3x

not a big deal tbh

[solar wyvern]

@winged sun 16 dfc, overall The Darkness, Blazikon, Candle king

build kinda goes hard

[halcyon charm]

so is it worth to tab and apply or could i really just stick to one? im lazy lol

[haughty flicker]

A LOAD OF THE GOONS goes hard

[hidden bay]

🤝

[halcyon charm]

What build is this?

[solar wyvern]

zeross was cooking

[coral ibex]

this isn't trade chat

[desert crest]

lol

[shy heron]

I applaud the effort however #wow-general

[idle gale]

i beg your pardon 🙂

[shy heron]

Sorry

#wow-general

[normal mist]

wow-general isnt trading chat as well xD

[winged sun]

🤝

[foggy mirage]

gz

[winged sun]

ty

[proud pelican]

Zeross wtf

Ur gaming

[willow hill]

does sudden demise not show on details?

[stable pasture]

it does

[willow hill]

i just did an entire dungeon without it being on details

i'm still leveling, level 58 at the moment, and i just talented into it near the first 25% of the dungeon

maybe it's one of the rare talents that take effect when i change instances?

[scarlet sequoia]

@winged sun lol

that was unfortunate

[willow hill]

or maybe it's very delayed so if you overkill (since still leveling and things die quickly) it doesnt trigger

[viscid tide]

when going over logs should i look at parse% or key%?

[coral ibex]

what significance do those %'s even have

i thought keys generally dont get logged anyway so wouldn't that make those inaccurate

[viscid tide]

i've used it to judge if my rotation needs work or where im lacking

[charred summit]

does someone knows one WA that helps to see that 35% of sudden damage execution //?

would be usefull 🙂

thanks...

I mean in the enemy bars...?

or how can I see that kind of details on enemy bars.... is there exist an option in game?

[normal mist]

That's not something you think about

[nova kelp]

^ just stab it till it's dead

at some point you'll start to get more "good stabs" (ambush). You stab gooder till it's dead

[humble verge]

wait

blur made song 2

what happened to song

i am going crazy

[nova kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDVVq4Zzsdw

in case you're wondering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e5nu1ipsg4

now, back to stabbin things

[humble verge]

NAHHH

blurs "song" fr

[sour void]

Just leveled my Brew with a buddy's rogue. Details showed demise consistently.

Can confirm from 58-80 anyway.

[keen tundra]

How do you guys go about simming for m+? Just dungeon slice or is there a better way to do it

[mortal badger]

1t 5m, 5t 1m, 5t 2m, 8t 2m, 10t 30s, 12t 45s,
at the end it doesnt really matter

[native heron]

7 Priory - Bleed build - ilvl 648 - Pulls were pretty big - 2.58 overall

Let me know how I did. I died a few times to dumb shit.

[keen tundra]

Ty

Out of curiosity haste doesn't make rogue global faster right ? It's just 1 sec flat

[spice surge]

Yes its always 1s

[balmy condor]

looks fine

[native heron]

Sweet. Thank you so much! Hope your night is going well!

[cedar lichen]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[broken lion]

My energy management on sin is so bad, any tips?

[rocky marsh]

same lol i think its cause im spamming mutilate lol

[broken lion]

I feel like I’m mainly clicking fan but still struggling

[royal lantern]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[royal lantern]

@broken lion @rocky marsh for both of you

aka, yes, normal thing that is kinda intended

[rocky marsh]

so do we just not even mutilate if we are out of energy and just sit there also should we be above 50% energy at all times?

[royal lantern]

if you wanna minmax boss dmg with bleed build in m+, yeha sure, its the optimal play

outside of that, not really

[balmy condor]

"at all times" no

just ignore it

and slam it

[broken lion]

I feel like I run to my thistle cd in mythic plus even

[royal lantern]

^

yes, and thats ok

[broken lion]

Like I was watching a guy run a +17 and he’s like always on top of it

[rocky marsh]

also in big pulls, if the packs is at like 20%ish and all my cds come up i would hold my cds right? in that time frame do u just spam fok and envenom

[broken lion]

And I was like how tf is he doing that

[balmy condor]

I mean with bleed build that's peak time to shiv

but sure yeah

can hold dm or whatever

[rocky marsh]

when are u suppose to use vanish. appreciate all the tips btw.

[balmy condor]

chain pulls

[rocky marsh]

oh. do u never use it during rotation?

[balmy condor]

you can if you want to

usually not needed

it's just if you need bleeds, you vanish

[thorn thorn]

Thinking is a dps loss

[rocky marsh]

lol

[balmy condor]

yeah #1 mistake on this spec is overthinking everything for no reason

[rocky marsh]

i play outlaw so thats nota problem i thought there was more to it

[thorn thorn]

Press buttons and think less its that shrimple

[balmy condor]

blizzards made sure to remove any intricacies in the last 1-2 years

[thorn thorn]

The great pruning of DF

[balmy condor]

players complain spec too complicated
all complexity removed
"there's no way the spec is that simple"

[runic hinge]

[buoyant herald]

"im going to invent micro-optimisations to introduce fake complexity"

[balmy condor]

yeh idk

I mean on the one hand that's kinda my job

on the other hand are we seriously going to pool for like 40% sanguine uptime in m+ ST with one specific build for +0.2%

[buoyant herald]

yes, otherwise spec too easy

and im a sophisticated gamer

[static glacier]

homie i need the 4d chess wolf spirit optimisation to send ele blast that has me consult chatgpt every global

from past seasons

[dapper cradle]

What’s the 401k like?

[balmy condor]

worse than it was earlier this year

[broken lion]

Same lol

[dreamy rover]

nasty one or nah whispyr

[steel sable]

i just got House of Cards and didn't even realize its a 1.5 min CD lol. Couldn't figure out why I was getting out of sync with death mark lol. I am SO bad at this game

[balmy condor]

yeh that's pretty gud

[balmy condor]

why is it not just macro'd

[steel sable]

lol it is now

[balmy condor]

W

[dreamy rover]

🤩

[thorn thorn]

Everytime

[thorn thorn]

EVERY FUCKING TIME

[ebon glen]

So I just found a Siphoning Stiletto recipe today, didn't even realize this was a thing. Assuming it's trash since I've never seen anyone using it or seen it in any guides. Seems interesting though. Surprised sub doesn't use even since they often run 2x focusing lens.

[balmy condor]

it's horrid

[ebon glen]

Figured as much. Unfortunate. :\

[pine copper]

!envenom

[balmy condor]

[buoyant herald]

envenom!

[mystic osprey]

!whispur

!whispyr

!is

[pine copper]

Hi there, I'm a WoW fan from Korea. During Season 1, I used to cast Envenom when there was 1 second left on the buff to keep it from falling off. In The War Within, aside from pooling energy for 3–4 seconds during Kingsbane windows, is it now optimal to just use Envenom as soon as I have enough energy for it? I'm worried because the damage is too weak. I'm sorry I used a translator

[mystic osprey]

!cute

[balmy condor]

yes

we don't track envenom's duration anymore

poisons aren't important

[mystic osprey]

Fuck you kingsbane 🖕 fuck you poison 🖕

[pine copper]

Thank you so much for your answer.

[turbid wraith]

trying to play assassination on oab after outlaw all tier

I can never vibe with it

[buoyant herald]

its very differently paced thats for sure

[static glacier]

just play outlaw

[buoyant herald]

i like it personally

[turbid wraith]

Killing spree is renamed to killing me when im on mythic oab

[static glacier]

yeah its a fatebound angle ngl

and it sucks that it is

that or just be smart with when you ks

[turbid wraith]

Every time the button is pressed I wind up on the yellow brick road with where these tornados are

[static glacier]

you live it

unless it's healing absorb

[turbid wraith]

Maybe I dont like assassin because Ive been playing it wrong

[hidden bay]

On Monday you can watch whispyr raid and check out how to play it

[pallid pasture]

does assassinations single target in m+ hybrid suck?

i usually play outlaw so this is new to me

just feels like my st is SOOOO bad

[balmy condor]

assassination single target in m+ sucks

regardless of build

[ebon glen]

It does indeed, but you rip on aoe so balances out. Rest of your group can handle ST. and some fights aren't too bad that have a little cleave in M+.

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor ||https://x.com/MrFoodies/status/1916281583793017131||

[zenith smelt]

Annyoen got a good wa to remember to aply poison on wepons?

[ebon glen]

helllll yea

[cedar flicker]

Whey protein mixed energy drinks

[ebon glen]

pre-workout mixed with energy drinks. LFG

[wise plume]

replace tea with this

[plain badger]

Even if the item level is increased to 685, do assassination still use cyrces as their bis?

[buoyant herald]

unlikely

but possible

[winged sun]

You can sim that right now

[rotund oak]

outlaw rework will happen soon fam

[wise plume]

give it a whirl

[mystic osprey]

😭

Uncap blade flurry blizzard you scoundrels

[wise plume]

they capped it??

[rotund oak]

like yeah

its capped idk

some years now

[zenith smelt]

How manny Garrotes/Ruptures do you want to keep active when you play posion build? 🙂

on Aoe

[cosmic sundial]

hey guys, we use vanish with our cds so i was wondering with bleed build do you use vanish to proc master assassin on aoe or not ? (i know you keep one stack of vanish to re apply dots and one for bosses if i'm right)

[balmy condor]

enough for scent of blood/energy

[balmy condor]

for m+ you should be generally be holding vanish for chain pulls

if you get a stealth to begin with there's basically no point in vanishing that same pack

[cosmic sundial]

omg the goat is here ! okay i see the point thanks ! <3

[balmy condor]

I live here

[cosmic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-its-peak-omni-man-peak-gif-13128163821234406100

[ebon glen]

do you not vanish to reapply empowered garrotes for sudden demise window on trash pulls?

[balmy condor]

fuck no

what an absolute waste

[ebon glen]

I knew that, was just making sure YOU knew that. 🙂

[rotund oak]

bold

[ebon glen]

😄

[balmy condor]

you need 150 bleed damage to do 100 sudden demise damage

it's not even worth refreshing bleeds for sudden demise on its own

imagine throwing a full 2 min cooldown for it

[rotund oak]

trying to live a life without IW

its hard

[buoyant herald]

free yourself of your bonds

[wise plume]

i may have been using vanish to refresh bleeds for demise 😭

i still cook tho

[balmy condor]

brother

[runic hinge]

@balmy condor this one is for you

[balmy condor]

Makeitwashed

[vivid bear]

yo whats your breakdown of that key?

[runic hinge]

I didnt even demise max

Coulda really put him in the dirt

[balmy condor]

you don't need to demise max in order to beat the most washed used-to-be greenie in all of ravenholdt bud

[ebon glen]

What is normal demise damage ? i feel like mine is usually lower than it should be.

[balmy condor]

lets see quakes

[balmy condor]

depends a ton on the timing of the key and the level and all that

it's essentially just flat damage

so the higher the key, the less it does % wise

[ebon glen]

Makes sense. My group is barely timing most 13's, not a meta group in any way. Feel like my demise dmg is usually 260-300 million overall.

[balmy condor]

yeh that's reasonable

probably can be a bit higher but nothing to be concerned about tbh

[runic hinge]

i got 1 question

[ebon glen]

Ok, good to know. Wish I had a log to post to share my breakdown

[runic hinge]

why did he have internal bleeding

[balmy condor]

CAUSE HES WASHED

3.4% honestly is pretty impressive though

[runic hinge]

he getting that shiv value on it

[balmy condor]

yeah

I mean he's playing bleed build

he's gonna take bleed

respect that

[runic hinge]

he was bleeding for sure

[rotund oak]

bruh poor quake

[dreamy rover]

Dude

Why do other classes discord's suck so bad?

Rogue discord is by far the best I've seen

Extremely active knowledgeable people

Even though rogues are the 2nd least played class im whole game

Insane

[balmy condor]

we just got brain issues

[dreamy rover]

Oh you have it figured out already

Most likely thats the main reason

[balmy condor]

I'm speaking from personal experience

[buoyant herald]

because of exactly that, we have one purplyman looking after like 12 active players, other specs have one purplyman looking after like 12000 and they get lost in the inane noise

[dreamy rover]

Yhea and you must've noticed I also got brain issues

[dreamy rover]

Thing is I sent something on elemental shaman discord, its been almost an hour and thirty minutes and there has been absolutely zero new messages

Thats cooked

Figured I'd try out ele shaman since I love exploding stuff and going afk for 1min and 30s as sub

check this little man out

[buoyant herald]

funny

i also swap between rogue and shaman main season to season usually

melee season

ranged/heal season

they have good good TCers at least

good mods

[balmy condor]

they have wordup

that's enough

wordup makes me feel like an absolute dumbfuck

just by breathing

[buoyant herald]

yeah he's like a shaman savant

i wonder how much of my decision to play classes is made up from how comfy the discords are

[dreamy rover]

shamans rock dude

im really enjoying elemental

enhancement's rotation feels off for me, idk why. feels kinda wonky

[runic hinge]

rogue is one of the least played classes but usually highly represented in high end content, CE, title, and pvp cause if you play rogue you're usually good at it

[rotund oak]

because rogue is the epitomy of ''know thy enemy''In order to perform as a rogue u have to formulate a plan and execute it correctly.Its a very punishing class so u have to put your brain to work.Mages/Hunters/Warrriors/Paladins.. all these classes are tanky and forgiving AF

so there you go

rogue requires knowledge+brain

[dreamy rover]

sus

how do i play it acceptably well then

when im kinda slow

[balmy condor]

rogue requireD knowledge+brain

[rotund oak]

because u learn slowly,even if u suck

[dreamy rover]

and dumby

[balmy condor]

nowadays not really

that's just why people didn't play rogue like 10 years ago

[buoyant herald]

Never got a reason to recover either sadly

[dreamy rover]

true. I only had green logs during dragonflight, now I got only purple ones

hopefully next season we get to orange

[rotund oak]

its still the case,not so obvious but still rogue is very unforgiving.If u try mage or hunter or any other class u will understand that its still a thing

rogue is just a hard class to play

compared to others ofc

[strange comet]

did they mess something with rogue? what is wrong with this damage.... its 12 PSF and look at it xD

[nova kelp]

looks like you were just soaking up a lot of the available trash damage like you should be doing

[strange comet]

i was sub and ive never seen that number in my life 😄

[nova kelp]

sub won't consistently steal trash mob hp like sin will

but you'll fuck a boss like sin won't

[strange comet]

yea thats true

😄

[nova kelp]

considering you were with 2 prio lower cleave specs, this is how I'd expect it to look

priory is also kinda fire for us lol

[strange comet]

yea i love psf really fun xD

[turbid helm]

Newish to Assa rogue. Popping off on in arena but struggling on PVE. Any recommended builds? Currently 646 ilvl and struggling to maintain over 1 mil dmg and always bottom on dps in dungeons raids and delves. I know it’s prob just a skill issue

[runic hinge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

f@ck is an understatement

[runic hinge]

read that and then watch some youtube vids from whipsyr

[rotund oak]

but ye,very true

[rotund oak]

twitchspyr

[turbid helm]

Thanks man!

[unkempt vine]

@runic hinge where tou trying the Supercharger build?

[unkempt vine]

Here

[runic hinge]

no that was a 13 CB where i died 3 times

and timed

I played bleed build

[spice spire]

Dog there’s 0 shot I had IB on

[runic hinge]

[spice spire]

If I was even close to that close with IV im actually a god

[runic hinge]

you were full bleed build

[spice spire]

IB + iron wire

Am I him

(Silence bitch)

[runic hinge]

only 5% difference in the spatter and ib damage

[spice spire]

I literally woke up and logged back on

[runic hinge]

ahahaha

[spice spire]

Dog

[runic hinge]

im just happy we timed with double assa ret

those bosses were forever

[spice spire]

I’m actually going to fucking rope

Why

Why

Why

Why

[runic hinge]

idk why you ever had ib on your bleed page but hey we timed

[rotund oak]

maybe he wanted ST dmg something something

[spice spire]

dog I was memeing before the key

about going raid build with CT

and moved it over as a joke

never put it back

[rotund oak]

lol

[spice spire]

I literally just changed one fucking talent

[rotund oak]

Tony gave u this way

disgraceful

[spice spire]

damn

ig I am a warrior main

washed

rinse

clean

[runic hinge]

It’s fine I wouldn’t be the rogue I am today without your help

[spice spire]

It’s fine I’m a skyhold main now

[sharp viper]

internal bleeding quake, huh?

[spice spire]

I don’t wanna talk about it

[sharp viper]

which warrior spec is even more meta right now?

[sacred loom]

arms

[runic hinge]

He’s playing prot

[eternal drift]

Love this discord channel, lots of good insights and active contributors for rogue. + Assa is a beast atm in m+, i am trashing 660s players in 640 gear from S1 and no tier set. Although still low keys

[runic hinge]

Assa is a detail monster

Find some friends who play ST specs and just blast the aoe for them

[gloomy heart]

this. i did 4.1 overall in a 10 priory bc i had blaster St friends

[distant hinge]

Where is the M+ bleed build on wowhead? I see the M+ list but its all the same KB builds

[balmy condor]

it's the first m+ build shown on any given page

[sly flame]

Does anybody know why my shiv/tea macro isn't working anymore?

[bitter solar]

i mean it should work with them commands

You've not got seperate action bars on for different talent setups and just not replaced your shiv with the macro in that setup?

[sly flame]

no, and it worked before.. just not since the patch.. :/

[bitter solar]

You know what, your right. I just tried it and it doesn't work

[sly flame]

so its not just me

[bitter solar]

Well it sorta works, but gets stuck on shiv when both charges are on cd

[dawn seal]

GUYS

I DID IT

[buoyant herald]

yeah mine just never uses tea, very cool

[dawn seal]

look at my rik REVERB

GUYS

I GOT ILVL %100

[keen tundra]

in 14 priory would u guys run atrophic or mind numbing?

[west rose]

do we ask questions here about assassination rogues?

i wanna improve my dps and im unsure what im doing wrong

ive had people tell me to reset rupture with 1 combo point and other saying keep it up with 5minium

[novel arrow]

So are these Horrific visions enchants out yet?

[sharp viper]

[balmy condor]

4 more weeks

[balmy condor]

1cp rupture sounds insane

We cast all finishers at 5 or more

Darkest night envenoms at 7

[west rose]

is there a weakaura that says darkest night is active

1sec i goin to raid

[balmy condor]

Plenty

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

You can also use the preset feature in weakauras to make one

Takes like 30 seconds

[cedar flicker]

!simguide

[prisma monolith]

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

[neon bridge]

i have a few questions,

1- sometimes when i use my finishers with 5+cp they do not consume deathstalker marks, why is this happening and how can i fix it?
2- should i craft wrists or boots with writhing armor band, or should i just go for the cheapest option?

[golden loom]

The only time 5+ point finishers would not consume deathstalker marks is if you already have the darkest night buff, and have applied a new mark with a stealth ambush

[sick aspen]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[golden loom]

And for the 2nd option, craft a slot where u have a low ilvl item

[neon bridge]

ok i'm an idiot, thanks

[old obsidian]

On mythic >_> all adds close to boss but wtf

[subtle kiln]

We also have a WA one linked in #subtlety ‘s !wa

[shy axle]

how do you find the difference between 12 and 13 keys? got all 12s done now

[near lark]

if you've done 12s, you can do 13s

[buoyant herald]

with a good group you wouldn't even notice the diff i reckon

[shy axle]

thank you

found 12 surprisingly smooth random, excited for the next step

harder to get into for sure but thats just how it is i guess

[pine copper]

In my SimulationCraft tests, Master Assassin is simming higher than Vicious venom under Patchwerk 5-minute settings. Does anyone know why..?

[royal lantern]

because it sims higher...?

[normal mist]

There were 2 options:
A) VV simming higher;
B) MA simming higher;

You got B), gg!

[pastel ermine]

on 5t cleave, do we ever let rupture fall off on any target? or should we keep uptime 100%

[spice surge]

Should be close to 100% yes

[wooden timber]

is it true that even if ma sims higher on regular patchwerk i should be playing vv on fights where there are adds/execute (ie every fight except sprocket)

idk how to sim adds exactly so im unsure how to test for my gear

[near lark]

@strange tundra , first time signet today, boi its my day

[wooden timber]

but vv is stronger in execute patchwerk for me

[hidden bay]

Just play what you like more MA sims higher for me aswell but I rather play VV

[wooden timber]

ok ty i guess it doesnt matter that much but for some reason i wanted to believe it does

[buoyant herald]

the VV damage spatters so thats probably why

and scales with the extra blindside procs during execute

i use MA in my sprocket build since it sims reasonably higher in pure ST

[wooden timber]

fatebound simmed higher in st too for sprocket but i have decided that that is a trick and i shouldnt fall for it

[buoyant herald]

did for me as well but yeah

[wooden timber]

think ma is fine though hehe

[buoyant herald]

didn't wanna be playing something new half way thru prog

[wooden timber]

i felt like i wasnt getting anything out of it when i tried it

oh well!

[buoyant herald]

yeah, maybe i'll try it on reclear

[royal lantern]

too sum up a guy here about fatebound:

"i played it on sprocket for a night and did like 300k less dmg on average"

RNG hero tree in a game where consistent Performance is important btw

[buoyant herald]

sprocket also doesn't have any issues managing your mark so

no downside

[ebon cloud]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[near lark]

Its my day, back to back, Signet into Seaforium Charge

pog

[strange tundra]

did you get it?

u got both?

[near lark]

I did

[strange tundra]

time to pump

[near lark]

First 2 dungeons of the day

Like fucking its my day bois

Current trinkets as well

[strange tundra]

sim them all

for me the crafted trinket sims 0.6% more in dungeon slice but aint no way im changing to that

[near lark]

Fuck that shit. Im simming them for OAB atm

[strange tundra]

are those trinkets good for raid too?

[sudden brook]

for oab ur probs just playing eye of kezan

[near lark]

The raw agility of the Geagrinder has been carrying it over any other 658 trinket

Ya Eye is basically always on in raid

I think M+ Seaforium will outperform Eye

And Signet will be better than Geargrinder

I think the 678 will be better until I can upgraded them to 665 which will be next week

[strange tundra]

I just keep them at 658

until i get them on m track

i only use gilded on m track items

[near lark]

Na, Signet is better for OAB according to sims

barely

[strange tundra]

since we get few uses of them

[near lark]

but I vibe with it

[strange tundra]

per week

[near lark]

in 2 weeks, not an iossue anymore

[strange tundra]

true

[near lark]

And b ecause I rerolled to my rogue late in the tier, I kinda jsut had to send them to catch up on crests

so I've done a lot of 658-662 upgrades sadly

6 min, I think it might be more

[strange tundra]

u were outlaw or what?

[near lark]

Enhance Shammy

[strange tundra]

i played enha shammy s1

i coudlnt get down the rotation idk

i wasnt pumping as hard as i could

[near lark]

I have been our guilds main shammy for 3 tiers, along with 1 other dude

but we recruited one, and our only rogue went on holidays for the entire month of april, so I rerolled rogue at the start of April

[strange tundra]

idk about raids but in m+ rog pumps

[near lark]

And kinda fell in love with it agian (I played it for 3 tiers in SL)

Sub was better early days, but by the time I started it, Sin just kinda out performs on the imporant bosses, so vibes

[strange tundra]

i only played sub in legion and it was top 1 dps back then

[near lark]

Ya but it wasn't SPriest StM so who cares

That was the true top dog

[strange tundra]

idk i only played through season 1

[near lark]

Fair, Spriest was a vibe back then for the first 2 seasons at least.

[sudden brook]

Signet sims higher on a 6-7 minute fight over eye?

[near lark]

6min fight over Geargrinder 678

for OAB targetted sim

Eye is auto equip, it won't be beat

[eternal drift]

🙀

[near lark]

b2b

feel good sunday

[empty vault]

im a bit new to wow does anyone know of any good up to date keybinding guides for retail?

or does it not matter?

[near lark]

whatever is comfortable fore you

Probably the single most impoprtant bit of advice I can give, is determine what modified you like ot use

Ctrl, Alt Shift etc

[distant heart]

what is best trinkets house of cards/ peacemaker or signet/peacemaker?

[near lark]

Depends on the content and what your ilvl is

etc etc

i.e sim it

[spice surge]

For the most part theyre practically the same