due to a bug
#assassination
novel star
coral ibex
wouldn't it be a gain to vanish ambush when you have DN
novel star
if that bug gets fixed then vanish ambush would be a 0.7% dps gain
coral ibex
to skip the 7p envenom
coral ibex
ah
novel star
!vanish
prisma monolithBOT
Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:
- Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
- Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied
As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.
rose wharf
Well since the topic is on rn a newbie question:
If i can't restealth and i have to apply the ruptures manually is it still worth to garrote inbetween or just gor for the fan and dump into envenom once i have my ruptures going?
keen spruce
Cleanse me in a crate papa
rigid tartan
oh damn didnt know this was a bot message
novel star
pretty much always ignore unstealthed garrote unless you need energy
terrible way to spend a gcd
royal lantern
Well since the topic is on rn a newbie question:
If i can't restealth and i have...
nah, garrote outside of stealth in aoe is not really a thing
can put 1 on the guy you cleave from with spatter, but thats it
- you cant multidot with garrote anyway, it has a CD
waxen oyster
Cleanse me in a crate papa
classic andies
feral mason
my guilty pleasure is reading forum post about rework proposals from people that don't know what the class actually does
rose wharf
Is there are target number at which i can ignore garrote for the energy gain?
i would guess at 3+ targets?
And thanks for the answers so far
royal lantern
3+ is when you start going aoe, so yeha i gues
winged widget
do a video ranting about it. i need my dosage of hiya
feral mason
read one the other day where a shadow priest player proposed a rework saying shadow crash should just deal damage instead of applying dots, and they should remove apparitions because they dont do any damage
sharp viper
I swear this channel made an olympic sport out of giving whispyr aneurysms - and I love it
waxen oyster
rose wharf
👍
spice spire
read one the other day where a shadow priest player proposed a rework saying sha...
Gonna stop u right there king
Another rework?
Mfs have had 4 in 2 expansions
subtle cipher
pin
spice spire
It’s time for other classes to get it
cinder quartz
dungeater poopoo heads think losing 10% rogue damage on a pack is worse than staying out of combat for multiple seconds
dapper cradle
read one the other day where a shadow priest player proposed a rework saying sha...
Lmao what a cook
feral mason
fire mage is ahead rn quake
coral ibex
this would make classic players mad if they could read
feral mason
they got 3 last two expansions
waxen oyster
Mfs have had 4 in 2 expansions
so outlaw?
subtle cipher
spice spire
they got 3 last two expansions
Two in sl.
And two in df wasn’t it?
They got reworked coming in
feral mason
oh we counting sl
spice spire
And the .1
cinder quartz
guys dont pull yet my shadow crash isn't up
feral mason
yeye
spice spire
Yeah that’s the last 2
feral mason
thought u meant tww and df
slim pebble
I checked that Reddit post cause I’m bored and got attacked
devout hazel
in simc i should go dungeon slice for assasination
spice spire
Yes
devout hazel
or whats the sim i should do
novel star
in simc i should go dungeon slice for assasination
yeah
junior aurora
this guy is based
devout hazel
cool
cinder quartz
guys dont pull yet my surge isn't up for 8 seconds
novel star
dungeon sims always kinda meh but dslice is the best one
devout hazel
this guy is based
what happened to us?
subtle cipher
this guy is based
chad
waxen oyster
this would make classic players mad if they could read
i like joining a classic discord vc
rose shadow
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
junior aurora
for the same experience try doing rbgs in retail
royal lantern
sorry i mean, ITS DARKHUMOR!!!!!!!
novel star
and hearing 40 year olds say the nword
the world would be a better place if you could shoot someone in the head through the internet
coral ibex
if you can't handle dark humor in this RWT GDKP then just leave snowflake
waxen oyster
for the same experience try doing rbgs in retail
oh that comes with pdfs too
dont recommend
feral mason
i dont play enough assa to know this but
feral mason
it is worth to just apply ruptures by hand if tank chains then
junior aurora
oh that comes with pdfs too
(so does classic)
novel star
it is worth to just apply ruptures by hand if tank chains then
yes you need to
coral ibex
it is worth to just apply ruptures by hand if tank chains then
yea
novel star
energy + scent
waxen oyster
probably overlapping playerbase
feral mason
aight bet
novel star
ruptures are prio always
devout hazel
i know i have a bad trinket isn that why
cinder quartz
dont forget to make a reddit post between FoK and rupture
devout hazel
it tells me that¿
cinder quartz
you need to weave those in
royal lantern
i know i have a bad trinket isn that why
what are the other vault options
feral mason
and just stop at 5 or more if theres more high hp mobs?
novel star
and just stop at 5 or more if theres more high hp mobs?
after 5 just ct and slam envenoms
royal lantern
personaly would take the chest tbh
cus like
the trinket will be replaced with a active trinket when you get it
red hearth
!wa
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novel star
take me out for dinner first quakeypoo
slim pebble
Call me envenom
spice spire
Nah I’m a social worker you think I can afford that kinda taste?
Miss me w that
I’ll just cook and plow ya feel
feral mason
just order pizza from the place nearby me
they havent realized their discount codes stack yet
getting large pizzas for like 5 bucks each
if not less
novel star
I’ll just cook and plow ya feel
turbid crest
novel star
that’s even better
waxen oyster
Twitter
feral mason
what
spice spire
https://x.com/jdotb/status/1840934132932603988?s=19
I laughed irl at this
Wrong channel
But damn
spice spire
Healing warheads from heaven
barren island
im simming higher swaping this to this
spice spire
Oh wait I get the rare non OT
slim pebble
It’s probably the 3500 mastery
waxen oyster
the 616 bracer is likely better
novel star
i would just take the armor
feral mason
that guy on the post is shittalking people for not playing real content and not knowing how the class works
slim pebble
Unless you’re gonna craft bracers
pastel onyx
skardyn in tmrws vault
waxen oyster
wasnt there some guy in here calling people 3k andies
pastel onyx
novel star
oh wait it’s wrist armor
waxen oyster
in s4
barren island
i will craft bracers tho, theres that
waxen oyster
while being below 2.9
novel star
so take the ring and hurry up and craft em alresdy
barren island
fucking robot
feral mason
man with m+ i really feel like skill doesnt become a thing until like top 20 keys
rest you can achieve by just playing an absurd amount
we are all equally shit frfr
waxen oyster
it doesnt
red hearth
how do people track "The Darkest Night" (why did I type Knight.. too much Batman?) - I don't see it in the typical WA packs
barren island
how do people track "The Darkest Night" (why did I type Knight.. too much Batman...
luxthos has it
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slim pebble
people who pug m+ four hours need to be locked up
I spent 45 minutes getting denied yesterday and just went to sleep 😂
red hearth
whispyrs wa tracks it
then I need to look more closely it seems. thx, just got that one over the other Afenatr based one
waxen oyster
somehow i get NW invites
novel star
big purple icon and also a big purple combo point when you have it
waxen oyster
more than anywhere else
novel star
somehow i get NW invites
cus no one wants to do that shit
so there’s less ppl next to you in queue
waxen oyster
better than grim batol
novel star
hard disagree
subtle cipher
@barren island look what you did
waxen oyster
waxen oyster
the place itself is asshole
novel star
i don’t like either of them
subtle cipher
cobalt sphinx
nw is the hardest for me
waxen oyster
stable cove
guys do i take the raid neck or trinket?
slim pebble
how did whispyr get the tender
I haven’t bought shit in like three months cause it’s all been ass
cobalt sphinx
we timed 7/8 pretty easily but wake is taking a while
honest needle
if i alrdy have a 636 crafted weapon for assasination should i open vault as outlaw even tho my offhand is only 606 ?
waxen oyster
due to someone dying on third or fourth
subtle cipher
guys do i take the raid neck or trinket?
sim it
honest needle
can some 1 give me advice ?
waxen oyster
flip a coin
austere bramble
hi is sacbrood still one of the s tier trinkets
subtle cipher
ye siege has a complete rate of 55%
bro i love siege idk why ppl hate it
slim pebble
bro i love siege idk why ppl hate it
I’d rather main outlaw than fight that last boss ever again
cinder quartz
last boss is so boring and just a dumb healer check
subtle cipher
I’d rather main outlaw than fight that last boss ever again
idk he is so chill
waxen oyster
yeah last boss is largely on your healer
placid adder
you dont get knocked back anymore either
brave comet
should i use authority of depths, and authority of radiant power?
slim pebble
“Don’t dispel me I’m gonna cloak first debuff”
“Wastes a dispel 10 seconds later”
cinder quartz
oh boy i hit tentacles and didn't stand in the swirlies, fun fight
waxen oyster
week 1 i was in a pug with a warrior and the sham healer
dispels us on top of each other
honest needle
if i alrdy have a 636 crafted weapon for assasination should i open vault as outlaw even tho my offhand is only 606 ? thoughts ?
barren island
<@215287137614954506> look what you did
Srry 😦
cinder quartz
idk how they make some of these bosses like this and then have dungeons like stonevault
brave comet
should i use authority of depths, or authority of radiant power?
novel star
should i use authority of depths, or authority of radiant power?
depths raid radiant m+
but radiant in raid is better than depths in m+
so if you do both
radiant
gloomy otter
!pandemic
prisma monolithBOT
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
waxen oyster
and its better in both
slim compass
sounds like radiant should be the go-to
novel star
for most people yeah
waxen oyster
it is pretty sure
deathstalker sub players abuse lingering shadows working on depths though
smfh
fair stirrup
how are you guys prioritizing kingsbane + caustic usage, and prio target on the AOE fights? i'm parsing high 90's on ST fights, but struggling to get there w/ the AOE fights. are you ever savings kingsbane to throw on an add and cleave off of? say on broodtwister, are you bleeding multiple targets + cleaving off one add at a time, or cleaving off boss?
winter cobalt
hey, need some help regarding Whispyr's plater - I'm trying to import this script to my custom profile but it does not work (I've set the priority back to 1 after importing). I've already imported rupture and garrote scripts and they work fine. any ideas what could be wrong?
wierdest thing of all - I've already imported it in the past and it worked. for some reason I can't reproduce the result
waxen oyster
socket beckons
honest needle
does offhand ilvl really matter because my offhand is 606 and my mainhand is 636 so i wanted to open vault as outlaw for a better outlaw weapon ?
wary hare
Is there any other craft/embelish slot other than waist/wrist/dagger?
near vale
just whatever spots you have open if its low ilvl i think
gusty mirage
does offhand ilvl really matter because my offhand is 606 and my mainhand is 636...
Not really no, like it’s significant but mostly for stat purposes vs actual weapon dps purposes
So if you’re trying to get an outlaw MH def send the vault as Outlaw and I’m sure you’ll eventually get a better OH dagger
somber hill
anyone know if bottled flayedwing toxin splashed from caustic?
i know unlikely but just confirming
brave comet
Elusive Blasphemite, it says that i need different colors of gems. does it have to be in the same armor piece?
gusty mirage
anyone know if bottled flayedwing toxin splashed from caustic?
I believe caustic is whitelisted, so probably not no
brave comet
or across your character?
gusty mirage
or across your character?
I believe across all available sockets
brave comet
how do i add sockets?
near vale
jewer's setting
waxen oyster
magnificent jeweler's setting
near vale
or from the vault tokens
waxen oyster
only works on rings and necks
near vale
oh true
waxen oyster
if you have pvp gear you need a different jeweler setting
near vale
How do I get raidbots to sim items seperately. Like if I wanna craft a 636 item but want to sim 3 diff crafts it just combines all of them and tells me to craft all of them even when i look at the combinations below it just says random shit
safe shale
Is there a "bisbisbis" m+ trinket combo, like skardyn+?? Or do all the secondary Sims close
safe shale
How do I get raidbots to sim items seperately. Like if I wanna craft a 636 item ...
Gear compare, and make gear sets
sharp viper
errr gz?
haughty lantern
oh wait this is sin
sharp viper
9 envenom combo INSANE YO
brisk path
is dead eye spyglass really bis?
according to wowhead its bis overall, but then its listed as A tier trinket
slim compass
are the differences between champion and hero gear negligible or is the fact that you can upgrade it higher make it worth it?
safe shale
is dead eye spyglass really bis?
according to wowhead its bis overall, but then ...
overall bis imo isnt accurate on wowhead atm
It's close
slim compass
like is a champion tier head piece that much different than a hero tier head piece
safe shale
But fuus list has some changes
austere bramble
guys i got mythic sacbrood in vault it's stil lvery good right?
brisk path
overall bis imo isnt accurate on wowhead atm
Its simming higest so I will prolly upgrade it
skardyn however is bis for sure innit?
near vale
is dead eye spyglass really bis?
according to wowhead its bis overall, but then ...
apparently thats outdated cause mad queens was bugged
hybrid scarab
hitting the jackpot?
cerulean maple
this is such a dumb question but im scared to ask it in my guild
do weapons make a bigger difference compared to other pieces, relative to ilvl?
my daggers are my lowest ilvl pieces and some rogue at same ilvl as me is simming WAY higher so im wondering if thats maybe why
slim compass
hitting the jackpot?
wow 623 skardyns
rocky karma
anyone have darkest night proc weak aura to share plz ? :>
shut owl
this is such a dumb question but im scared to ask it in my guild
do weapons ma...
main hand yes, offhand no
deft vault
this is such a dumb question but im scared to ask it in my guild
do weapons ma...
yes daggers have the highest value
tropic cedar
this is such a dumb question but im scared to ask it in my guild
do weapons ma...
MH does
OH less so
safe shale
Its simming higest so I will prolly upgrade it
skardyn however is bis for sure i...
Yes skar for sure, then paired with any other s tier really but I think spyglass idk
Depends on your stats
shut owl
you need one BIG dagger, and your other one can be kinda whatever
cerulean maple
ok interesting glad to hear it's not entirely just skill issue maybe
cinder quartz
myth dagger 
cerulean maple
im stuck here w explorers daggers 
shut owl
probably worth crafting one; if you get lucky in vault and outgrow it, tada its now your offhand
sharp stump
hitting the jackpot?
Ocarina bis 
near vale
uprade champ skardyns or save crests and hope for hero track what are we thinking
near vale
im super broke though i dont think i could afford
go mine and herb lol
cerulean nest
cerulean maple
go mine and herb lol
i already barely have time to raid / dungeon 😭
tropic cedar
buy a token
near vale
true
cerulean maple
buy a token
see here's the predicament. I'm also barely making rent each month
near vale
buying tokens when they go for like 350k are so worth it
cerulean maple
im fotunate i can keep my sub going lmfao
near vale
i respect making the time to raid with a guild in ur situation lmao
slim compass
sounds like wow is the least of your worries
tropic cedar
barely making rent each month/barely enough time to raid or M+/explorer daggers is a wild combo
pliant terrace
near vale
nah ur real as fuck
runic gorge
is vanish a big cd if we dont have improved garrote?
cerulean maple
barely making rent each month/barely enough time to raid or M+/explorer daggers ...
the triple threat
cerulean maple
i'll survive ! ! somehow
slim compass
I'd look for different stimulation that doesn't cost a subscription. Good luck to you.
cerulean maple
i've been playing with the thought of gw2 again but i'm of the mindset that you should have ONE THING you like no matter how broke you are
otherwise waht's there to live for kinda
when is vault reset btw?
tropic cedar
i've been playing with the thought of gw2 again but i'm of the mindset that you ...
a gambler's mindset
slim compass
every tuesday
near vale
wed for eu
cerulean maple
a gambler's mindset
thankfully gambling is NOT the reason im broke 
i should get student finance soon so i'll be floating on money compared to what im livign on rn
we do a little bit of debt having
slim compass
smh
near vale
waiting for the student loans to refund i get it
was in the same situation last month lmaoo
slim compass
15+ years later and I'm still paying student loans
cerulean maple
yikes oh my
slim compass
worst decision of my life
hallow pelican
the buffs to fire were specifically to their AoE spells so those high fire parses are most likely all on broodtwister
cerulean maple
thankfully im in the eu so at least for germany, half of it is a gift, and the other half you can pay back without tons of interest
slim compass
that sounds way better than our broken and predatory system
undone pollen
Can someone explain sanguine blades, the way the talent reads just isn’t clicking for me
cerulean maple
that sounds way better than our broken and predatory system
us i assume??
coral ibex
tierlists are S tier for things to be banned for sure
cerulean maple
my wife is from there and its ROUGH
slim compass
yes
near vale
yea the population size being 1/11th of arcane is funny
slim compass
anywho, I didn't mean to turn this off topic, so back to wow
cerulean maple
yeah oops soryr same
slim compass
I got one more sim to do and then I'm making a decision
cerulean maple
yea the population size being 1/11th of arcane is funny
players follo meta ig
spice spire
Can someone explain sanguine blades, the way the talent reads just isn’t clickin...
Above 50% energy your bleeds deal more damage but energy is passively taken a little at a time . Below 50% energy nothing happens
cerulean maple
any1 know what time vault opens on EU?
slim compass
cinder quartz
Can someone explain sanguine blades, the way the talent reads just isn’t clickin...
if your bleed would tick, it checks your energy %. if above 50%, it will eat some energy and do more damage
slim compass
pretty shit
safe shale
there are so many fking shit arcane mafges out there and resto shsmans its insane, meta slaves that do less dmaage than normal players on other classes
slim compass
but then again, I have no idea what trinkets to run at the moment
cerulean maple
there are so many fking shit arcane mafges out there and resto shsmans its insan...
IKR ???
just play waht you enjoy omg
cinder quartz
maybe they were always there being bad on those specs
cerulean maple
speaking of sucking at a class, any1 know a good kingbane wa? i sometimes see myself getting lost in the sauce of boss mechanics
near vale
arent you supposed to energy starve yourself on sanguine blades until burst window comes up
some shit like that
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safe shale
All the arcane mages ATM are being carried by ilvl and not skill
tawny geyser
but then again, I have no idea what trinkets to run at the moment
You could just take the head since its kinda good stats or go with the boots those are good too.
Idk about the trinket, never seen anyone use it
safe shale
People just invite mages to keys, but they do the lowest damage most of the timr
slim compass
I like whispyrs plater and wa
tawny geyser
But then again, sim it as usual.
red hearth
there are so many fking shit arcane mafges out there and resto shsmans its insan...
I'd like your definition of normal players, because we can be pretty bad in any given tier, for whatever reason
safe shale
What do you mean?
I'm saying arcane mage is really good ATM, but if you suck at playing it, then don't play mage
red hearth
rn I am parsing single-digit grey and kinda clueless why. coming from Fury, haven't played Assa for years
slim compass
You could just take the head since its kinda good stats or go with the boots tho...
taking the head would mean going from champion tier to hero tier. Not sure if that's worth it. We'll see what raidbots says
cinder quartz
basically the idea is
- Don't cap on energy
- Don't early pandemic
- Chain Envenom
The natural result of this is that you will start having to cast mutilate under 50% energy since you regen less than you consume
slim compass
I'm completely not simming the trinkets. I don't think I want any of them
cinder quartz
So you can "aim" to be under 50%, but you'll also just kinda end up there
subtle cipher
Forgor to renew my sub, shit kicked me in the middle of a +10
arctic tusk
!fuu
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subtle cipher
slim compass
I'll stick with sacbrood/void reavers
not the greatest but I've had bad luck on skardyns
undone pollen
basically the idea is
1) Don't cap on energy
2) Don't early pandemic
3) Chain E...
Is it worse for single target than the mutilate bleed talent
violet berry
Edict no bueno?
slim compass
Edict no bueno?
I have no idea
cinder quartz
Is it worse for single target than the mutilate bleed talent
it's mostly good in aoe because you'll be overcapping energy. single target i dont think we ever take it since enerygy is rough
undone pollen
Makes sense ty
slim compass
the candle trinkets I don't think are very good either compared to what I have
dire slate
Is ret pala unbalanced in PVE or is it just me? Pardon my opinion I'm still pretty new...
safe shale
Seems fkin op to me ATM
dire slate
Mythics*
safe shale
Just had one do insane damage low ilvl I ate my words
raven panther
The most broken thing is that switching from AoE to ST changes only one spell, their spender
safe shale
+3d a 10 arakara with a 607 ret
raven panther
everything else is the same
dire slate
But... I just did a 4+ for fun with 614 gear 4set. He was 605 and still did more dmg
raven panther
so most of the boss they just one shot the little adds and it's over
dire slate
I thought I did the rotation right with caustic an all that..
cobalt sphinx
yeah ret owns
cold parcel
Why do people say to upgrade trinkets before lets say the tier set when the tier set upgrades give a lot more stats than the trinkets?
dire slate
safe shale
Tri kets give more value
short flint
ctrl-shift-s
dire slate
Like, the heck is this?
tropic cedar
a bad screenshot
dire slate
One ability xD
wise gull
Like, the heck is this?
That's a photo of a screen
safe shale
Weapon>trinket>lowest Ivl gear
dire slate
Bruh
cobalt sphinx
windows shift s
dire slate
Im new to computer maan
dire slate
Gimme a break. Took a pic with a 5 year old phone
short flint
not ctrl
hollow talon
https://www.wowhead.com/item=226224/luminous-nerubian-catalyst-stone is this supposed to give me anything
i just opened it and it gave me a warrior hat xmog?
safe shale
Appearance
hollow talon
nothing for rogue?
dire slate
press win shift S
I have a cursed bining on shift S
safe shale
Just shows war obe
grim vigil
can queens mandate trinket crit?
safe shale
Yes
zenith prairie
Is there any diminishing returns on crit?
cold parcel
Tri kets give more value
how exactly? Lets use this trinket for example vs an armor piece:
spice spire
That’s not at all why it’s not the raw stat.
It’s the placement of raw stat
cobalt sphinx
whatever you're less likely to upgrade in the future
safe shale
Max your weapon then trinket and the. Lowest gear don't question it
cold parcel
lol hmm ok
spice spire
+126 mastery during dm windows > +12 crit and +25 vers perma.
And that makes up for over the 6 agil too
grim vigil
@safe shaledid you answer my question or someone elses
spice spire
Is there any diminishing returns on crit?
Yeah but they don’t matter
strange python
unllikely to see a myth track dagger any time soon - should i craft a 636 everforged stabber?
cobalt sphinx
how exactly? Lets use this trinket for example vs an armor piece:
you can sim it
safe shale
can queens mandate trinket crit?
Yes to this I am sure it can
cobalt sphinx
639 helmet is more damage than 639 skardyns for me
strange python
Did you not craft it with nerubian
nerubian? you mean ascendance? no i've had 2 dawnthread as ive been using 2 hero daggers
slim compass
yup, survey says to just upgrade what I have. I guess I'm taking the jewel socket
blazing jewel
Just raw dag should be fine
spice spire
?
pastel onyx
high phoenix
any word yet on if the trinket tuning makes any other options good? have twin fangs mythic on offer in my vault.
faint mist
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
rose shadow
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
willow cloud
empowering crystal of anub -- is it right it has about 50% uptime on the proc effect?
neat pier
spice spire
Your crests
drifting cloud
also the fact crafts are 636
spice spire
drifting cloud
near vale
caustic hit adds on bloobound horror?
spice spire
From boss? No
But it’s worth taking for when you go down and have to kill adds anyway
ocean holly
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
young dust
i know stat weight is kinda bait, but is off hand really that low?
oak ember
Yes, offhands are only good if they have a proc of something
slim compass
wtf treacherous transmitter is good now? I thought we were supposed to avoid it like the plague due to the minigame
willow cloud
I think this is a pretty sad vault, if I am running 6/6 heroic transmitter & reaper contract?
honest needle
how is my champion tier helm better then a mythic helm thats crazy https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cmibKpUpz6t3dsYB7NynJ9
strange python
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
near vale
how is my champion tier helm better then a mythic helm thats crazy https://www.r...
champ helm has socket
silver escarp
I don't remember. You have to kill the boss with the super rare to get it on ur vault right?
gentle apex
if i have skardys and mad queen trinket. im guessing i use skardyns with DM at the start and then queen 20secs later?
spice spire
Yep
gentle apex
it sims well, not sure in practice
grim vigil
i have it in heroic and it crits 10m
but now i have 2 on use trinkets with grim batol thingy
honest needle
@near vale once i upgrade will myth b better
near vale
i mean they both are virtually the same dps rn and the champ one is only 4 ilvls under socket making up rest of stats so ya
spice spire
but now i have 2 on use trinkets with grim batol thingy
You’re living the dream bud
You send skardyns with dm
And mandate after
Chuckling
gray horizon
Guys i have a quick dumb question about Sikran. I tried to cloak the big run away mechanic, but it still clapped me. Does it do physical dmg too?
flint marsh
is atrophic better at all during high keys
atrophic better if its easy to kick the dungeons mobs, e.g. mists
unless your tank is unreasonably scared of melees
cinder geode
i dont think there is much to kick on siege, no?
spice spire
do we always go mind numbing in m+?
Mine numbing helps your tank a bit.
Ateophic does work for double rogue
flint marsh
true
spice spire
There’s a few things to kick
flint marsh
just 1 or 2 casters per pack
spice spire
I do not trust pugs!!
flint marsh
very fair
calm tendon
violet berry
Bis mythic ring or mythic chest to catalyze next week someone choose for me goddamit
warm shell
This was very demure, very mindful comment when I was expecting a nuke.
red hearth
not very cutesy though
spice spire
This was very demure, very mindful comment when I was expecting a nuke.
Pissed
I demand blood
shut owl
Weirdly I find myself doing more damage on a sloppy AF chain pull that a perfect opener because that perfect opener means my MM friend is also doing their perfect opener like 12 buttons faster.
royal lantern
if you do content where shit dies when you manualy dot
why care
you do pisslow shit where it doesnt matter
jaunty crystal
you matter
zinc willow
!tott
prisma monolithBOT
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
My m+ mental after 16 sieges and 0 tww keys last week
finite gazelle
Quick question, I have Ascension craftet on my wep, what was the other embalisshment called that I should craft on belt/wrist?
royal lantern
gaslight central
nah, you just spew cluelesss ytuff around all the time
which is like
yeha
stop that
spice spire
Quick question, I have Ascension craftet on my wep, what was the other embalissh...
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
spice spire
gaslight central
I’m trying to girlboss so hard rn
pliant remnant
slay
spice spire
Ty
gloomy otter
at how many seconds of garrote do i wanna use my vanish+garrote?
fast jewel
When will our bubbling wax get fixed 
shut owl
It's fixed (we can't have fun above 610)
You'll pay your 1k per whetstone and like it bud. My stone-specced bs' gotta fund my dagger addiction somehow
upper wraith
Oooo 626 cloak off rash
hallow pelican
samesies
spice spire
You'll pay your 1k per whetstone and like it bud. My stone-specced bs' gotta fun...
You’re the enemy
The driving force
wide aurora
how are people living in 12 keys? using feint with 20% dr talent but things like first boss in necrotic and last add pack before third boss the spew just one taps. Vers diff or am i missing something else? (im new to rogue)
lunar sleet
Guys bone spike on st can stack? I mean grants more combo points with each spike inserted.
slim compass
serious, it's like people don't understand they cost null stones to craft and omg if only they knew how long it takes me to get null stones (not long at all, but 🤫 )
neon thunder
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
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Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
spice spire
Guys bone spike on st can stack? I mean grants more combo points with each spike...
Yes
spice spire
serious, it's like people don't understand they cost null stones to craft and om...
I know the cost is high
I’m just down to antagonize on things that don’t matter any chance I can
scenic nacelle
This was very demure, very mindful comment when I was expecting a nuke.
the downvote 
spice spire
how are people living in 12 keys? using feint with 20% dr talent but things like...
Could be gear diff
But yeah it’s feinting basically on cd too
wide aurora
unless i insta shadowstep after the spew i get one tapped by the hit + tick
sour oasis
!ua
spice spire
Oh yeah he fucks
wide aurora
7% versa and 619 thought i wwould be able to live stuff
spice spire
And you can’t cloak anymore
sour oasis
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
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wide aurora
and feinting on cd
spice spire
Also gl with the adds just absolutely milking you if they reach you
slim compass
I mean all it takes is an hour or two of mining bismuth and I come back with everything I need, null stones included 🤷♂️
wide aurora
allways thought rogue was such a hard spec to die on but these random aoe abilities i cant dodge just one tap
need warrior tank buddy to sit on me with intervene hard macroed i guess
sour oasis
guys how can i import the plater of whyspir ?
balmy condor
you import it like anything else
open the wago link
copy the import
open plater
paste the import
vague flare
what do u guys think are the biggest items from the raid for assassination? doing soft res heroic
hallow pelican
biggest? you mean the most desireable?
vague flare
yeah like what should i soft res lmao
im the only rogue so not a dagger, thatll be free
heady plaza
what is flensing knives and why do i see it in a few logs?
balmy condor
a talent that got removed and you can get back by talenting to ethereal cloak
heady plaza
it got removed isnt it
hallow pelican
queens trinket, cloak from Rashanan, neck from Sikran
the ring from queen might default to you
limber lion
Bug
slate crown
Clearly intended
slate crown
because they just forgot to update the tooltip
stiff badger
Morning guys can anyone advice either should i pick myth dagger or hero skardyn grace please. Dagger i have 1 crafted and 1 hero Regicide. Trinkets : 606 Mad queen's Mandate and Ara-Kara Sacbrood
vague flare
the ring from queen might default to you
i wish lol other ppl soft resing that ring too
feral mason
Morning guys can anyone advice either should i pick myth dagger or hero skardyn ...
dagger for sure
can loot the trinket from the dungeon, weapon not so much since it is myth track
gray horizon
def dagger
feral mason
also has great stats so probably won't get rid of that the whole season
stiff badger
Thanks for help guys. Will choose dagger and camping at Grim Batol is still on 😛
gray flower
is Sac Brood still BiS?
slim compass
damn you got scalpel to roll at 623. That's awesome
cobalt sphinx
is Sac Brood still BiS?
its good but i think other items can still sim higher
gray flower
i have 623 in my vault, and the other two myth items arent that good
cobalt sphinx
yeah it's a good pickup
i think mad queens mandate is maybe better for single target if you can manage the double on-use
ritual knife too but it maxes out at 626
stark scroll
ITS TIME
gray horizon
When did the recommended raid ST build change?
I was rocking imp garrote/shrouded suffocation/2 vicious venoms, but now it looks like it's improved posions/dashing scoundrel, with no garrote buffs?
spice spire
Last month,
cyan gyro
Morning - Did some sim (Raidbot) this morning and early morning and the result have really confused me. Is there a cap to Crit/Mastery - Since it's telling me to change all my gems to Haste gems, and for GV it's telling me a 610 crit/mastery neck isn't as a good as a 606 haste/mastery neck.
spice spire
When they fixed ER bug
spice spire
Morning - Did some sim (Raidbot) this morning and early morning and the result h...
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
cobalt sphinx
I was rocking imp garrote/shrouded suffocation/2 vicious venoms, but now it look...
it's less than 1% difference, i'm sure you will find both at the top on wcl
gray horizon
it's less than 1% difference, i'm sure you will find both at the top on wcl
yeah was gonna say, it's simming very close for me, like 7k difference
spice spire
(Also fwiw I’m not angry typing, I’ve seen it a bit where people say “but stat priority!”)
gray horizon
so without the garrote talents, what do we use Vanish for? Just for throwing out another Ambush?
grim vigil
is there any way we want to enhance usage of queens mandate as sin? or just throw it in
spice spire
is there any way we want to enhance usage of queens mandate as sin? or just thro...
Toss it
sour coral
hi guys, are there any haste breakpoints we're aiming for? currently my sims value haste much higher than crit or mastery.
cyan gyro
(Also fwiw I’m not angry typing, I’ve seen it a bit where people say “but stat p...
Thanks, esp that 2nd bullet poiint 🙃
spice spire
hi guys, are there any haste breakpoints we're aiming for? currently my sims val...
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
spice spire
Thanks, esp that 2nd bullet poiint 🙃
No worries, they’ll fluctuate a bit as we get more gear. It’s natural
It’s a lot of simming
spice spire
long bone
Hey guys, is there a code we can add to the sim that sim all the differents consumable used on weapon ?
long bone
Thx guys !
cobalt sphinx
oh nice
eager tree
where's the graphic whispyr has about how to get into your dm-kb window more quickly?
like the ideal openers from longest to shortest
im describing it poorly
round harbor
gray flower
Why does Sacbrood lose so much value as target count goes up? Seems like it works that way for Rogue but not for other classes
slim pebble
The real good vault was the friends you made along the way
novel star
trinkets are pretty chill
visual flume
do we run caustic spatter for broodtwister or normal single target?
novel star
spatter
gray horizon
def caustic
novel star
you spatter on 5 of 8 bosses
that talent is fucked
and internal bleeding sucks balls
gray horizon
im working on the broodtwister build for our mythic prog tonight
so many different and crazy builds on WCL
novel star
broodtwister you even wanna spec into CT if your raid doesnt have enough aoe dam
gray horizon
i was watching kushi's sin pov and it looks dope. Dude literally just stayed on the boss the whole time lmao
just let the cleave do everything
was trying to find his build but i'm just combing through WCL and there's so many different ones
thrown precision seems nice even without CT
slim pebble
Am I reading that Void Reapers Contract is pretty good in m+ for us correctly?
plucky fable
helloo bubbling wax still bugged?? 😦
visual flume
ok ty all
slate crown
helloo bubbling wax still bugged?? 😦
!wax 
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax Cannot be applied to weapons above 610 item level
Some more caveats:
- If it's a bug and we're supposed to be able to apply it, its roughly on par with whetstones.
- If you die, wax instantly stops working and you have to unequip your dagger and re-equip
raven egret
helloo bubbling wax still bugged?? 😦
Yes, well it assumes its a bug like the !wax info says, we HOPE its a bug and not intended
if its intended then that new wax feature is the most useless thing anyone ever worked on
uhm well second most useless, after Shadowheart node
slim pebble
I think this is a wait until after raid angle
novel star
it pretty much always is a wait until raid angle
unless u raid weekends
or something
cobalt sphinx
Why does Sacbrood lose so much value as target count goes up? Seems like it work...
haste is pretty bad for sin mt
plucky fable
Yes, well it assumes its a bug like the !wax info says, we HOPE its a bug and no...
sad, i really believe is gonna work today :c
fluid dagger
raven egret
? deathstalker dmg? what do you mean deathstalker dmg?
the mark itself?
thats not where most of DS dmg comes from
calm grail
With the ST build and in any case where there's more than two targets like in raid where adds spawn, do you FoK to generate?
slate crown
Yes, you still swap to fok on 3 targets
carmine fulcrum
maybe Im not pooling envenons I guess
slim pebble
Sack trinket is more ST for us right
calm grail
Yes, you still swap to fok on 3 targets
On WoWhead it says to use vanish for improved garrote, but almost no one uses Imp. garrote on ST. So do we just not use vanish as a DPS cd?
thick juniper
what you guys think? spyglass???
cobalt sphinx
gear-a-rang for sure
carmine fulcrum
how do I create a thread
thick juniper
launcher it is! ty!
slim pebble
launcher it is! ty!
Wait no
ionic kelp
in m+ aoe, tea w/ vanish or tea w/ shiv better?
slate crown
On WoWhead it says to use vanish for improved garrote, but almost no one uses Im...
You use vanish for imp garrote if you use imp garrote.
Imp garrote is annoying to manage, so if you don't have imp garrote, (Vanish should instead be used when you have darkest night to reapply mark) -> the italics is currently bugged and doesn't work because of that bug. Because it doesn't work, currently vanish is entirely used as a means to get your mark back. You don't use it as a dps cooldown rotationally, you use it as an emergency recovery to get your mark back on a target.
Once the bug is fixed, then it'll be back with it being used to reapply mark with darkest night up
cobalt sphinx
launcher it is! ty!
i was trolling
austere tinsel
what trink would you guys pick if it were between a spyglass and ritual-binding knife for m+? im torn
raven egret
sim it
nova kelp
i was trolling
well now the man has a gear-a-rang
look what you've done
hoary kernel
what was the website called where you can put in your warcraftlogs and it tells you how ineffectinve you are with cds?
during the fight
cobalt sphinx
wowanalyzer but i think it sucks
hoary kernel
ohh its bad now?
cobalt sphinx
idk i have never seen it do anything useful
nova kelp
it kinda always was bad really
hoary kernel
I only really use it to see if im using shiv timings or ER when I need it to
nova kelp
It would do things like tell you "uh oh, you wasted your cds coz you didn't use them! fix it!"
while ignoring that the boss was going to go into a 30 second immune phase 2 seconds into the cd
YOU WASTED YOUR DM AT THE START OF RASH! FIX IT!
bruh... if I use it now guaranteed I get the first webs and just spend the whole time running away...
hoary kernel
lmao, I think the best use for it is for small cds like shiv, tea, CB and ER
Personally dont look at the big cds
spice surge
YOU WASTED YOUR DM AT THE START OF RASH! FIX IT!
bruh... if I use it now guarant...
Well unlucky strat requiring the webs to be far away
gleaming shore
i was trolling
U just made him take launcher 
spice surge
You can have them placed to either the left or the right of the group and they just get cleaned away from the green sludge anyway
frigid pilot
nova kelp
yeah we did that for a bit, but then some people would spread their zone through the group and annihilate people so we were made to change
slim pebble
I need to know if that dude took geararang
carmine fulcrum
how do I create a thread for log analysis?
steep burrow
Well my only myth track gear is gear a rang so…
slim pebble
how do I create a thread for log analysis?
Post your log and someone will thread it
carmine fulcrum
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FX9zfJ6vw4pT2KQy need help to check single target
novel star
Well my only myth track gear is gear a rang so…
getting buffed 
tacit inlet
why does it feel like i do no dmg now compared to everyone else, could someone point me in the direction of actually how to play this class or do its rotation in m+
novel star
!guide
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Assassination Guides:
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IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
tacit inlet
ok ive been trying to follow what wowhead says but it might just be a skill issue
novel star
any specific issues youre feeling
zenith crest
is it more worth to grab a set item or daggers? my current daggers are both explorer 
i wouldn't get a set bonus tho
high phoenix
ok ive been trying to follow what wowhead says but it might just be a skill issu...
Make sure your talent build is right. When you open get out some garrotes and ruptures before the stealth window breaks (for energy regeneration) and drop crimson tempest. mutulate for caustic spatter on the chunkiest target. Then do not change targets again except to kick. Then slam all cooldowns, fan of knives to build and and envenom to spend. Do that until everything is dead, mutilating once each time caustic spatter is about to expire. Note rupture must be active on your mutilate target for it to take effect.
high phoenix
Make sure your talent build is right. When you open get out some garrotes and ru...
It’s important to get into your damage rotation pretty fast, meaning caustic spatter damage and cooldowns. If you have enough bleeds for energy and shit is dying before you are out of your opener, you’re too slow. take shortcuts to get out of your opener early.
buoyant schooner
!craft
prisma monolithBOT
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
balmy condor
is it more worth to grab a set item or daggers? my current daggers are both expl...
Main hand dagger > tier > offhand dagger
minor finch
So with garrote and rupture basically aoein from steal we get mark in a target do we stay on that target or should I tab target shit?
runic hinge
Main hand dagger > tier > offhand dagger
would you take a 1% loss to run haste on use candle over transmitter
It's probably fine right? cause transmitter has the game and sometimes i fuck it up or it's in a bad spot
high phoenix
In m+ stay on your target as long as you can. Spatter will spread the damage of your cooldowns.
arctic socket
arctic socket
@balmy condor so
high phoenix
If you tab any damage you do to the non spattered target does not spread, or worse you shift spatter to the target that doesn’t have cooldowns running.
arctic socket
Transmitter or sac
minor finch
Thanks!
runic hinge
People probably just like imp garrote
And sanguine maybe?
I think imp garrote is a little more burst with DM so people play it for that reason too
nimble tartan
i see ok
arctic socket
Do i take transmitter for sub off role, hmm
buoyant schooner
probably a dumb question, but when we select Sanguine Blades do we focus on staying over 50% energy? Also, that 50% would be off the 300 max energy correct?
in raids i mean
runic hinge
probably a dumb question, but when we select Sanguine Blades do we focus on stay...
!pooling
prisma monolithBOT
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
runic hinge
Basically chain envenom down til you can't anymore and then pool back to 70%
chrome rivet
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
sick abyss
!WA
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
buoyant schooner
Basically chain envenom down til you can't anymore and then pool back to 70%
ty
buoyant schooner
Basically chain envenom down til you can't anymore and then pool back to 70%
but I understand then tha if DS we tipically don´t get Sanguine Blades? wowhead isn´t picking for both raid S and aoe
runic hinge
but I understand then tha if DS we tipically don´t get Sanguine Blades? wowhead ...
correct, if you are playing viscous venoms you don't need to pool that high
runic hinge
is it ok for me to wear fist?
you cannot mutilate without 2 daggers
raven halo
you cannot mutilate without 2 daggers
ohh understood, thanks appreciate the reply!
buoyant schooner
also when do we vanish if not using improved garrote?
balmy condor
you don't
spice surge
Never or whenever you want
visual flume
@balmy condor so outside of our cooldown window, should we only be refreshing envenom with 1 second left?
might explain why im out of energy all the time xD
been spamming it.... 😅
crimson wigeon
Is there a way on logs to see how many lethal poisons were applying? really want to review my kingsbane windows and see how well im doing in them
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> so outside of our cooldown window, should we only be refre...
yes
eager tree
anyone have that grahpic whispyr made for getting your aoe opener into dm -> kb slower v quicker?
wise plume
princess trink is the best thing simming in my vault by far 😭
isnt that trink cheeks?
grim vigil
am i simming wrong or why is concoction:kiss of death siming better than queens mandate same ilvl, dungeon slice, aoe build assa
vast loom
anyone have a KB wa that tracks how many "stacks" it has?
pallid bough
drowsy plaza
is there anymore bleed snapshotting?
elder jasper
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
prisma monolithBOT
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
limber lion
God this reddit thread
We're fighting a losing battle
I don't even know what to do or say anymore man.
spring moat
for court.. spatter or tab target bleeds?
runic hinge
whats the one about haste only giving 2 actions per minute
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
coral ibex
We're fighting a losing battle
you lost when you started typing on reddit bro
limber lion
for court.. spatter or tab target bleeds?
Both...
limber lion
you lost when you started typing on reddit bro
It's not me typing
fiery vapor
what u think my bois, kukri and regicide or regicide and crafted dagger????? D::::
limber lion
what u think my bois, kukri and regicide or regicide and crafted dagger????? D::...
Regi and crafted
fiery vapor
ty!
grim oasis
ive been practicing my opener in town and was super confused why the fuck kingsbane was doing negative damage, I have zero poisons on Q_Q
slim pebble
Glad I waited on vault weapon
thorn fjord
We're fighting a losing battle
I haven’t looked at it but I can only assume you’re arguing with casuals 😂
limber lion
Read my other replies
It's us fighting the battle here
And then reading about people not knowing how stealth works in Reddit
raven egret
We gotr a reddit fight?!
thorn fjord
A post about tanks waiting to let rogues stealth between packs
rocky sluice
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
past panther
are there any ring embellishments that're worth it
it's my next piece i need to craft
tacit inlet
**Assassination** Weakauras/Plater profiles:
[Whispyr's Afenar Edit](<https://wa...
im having trouble importing the plater wa its saying error compressing any reason for that?
limber lion
Np
limber lion
are there any ring embellishments that're worth it
You can only have 2 embellishments
Just send it raw
past panther
You can only have 2 embellishments
ty boss man
calm grail
On a fight like silken court, do you FoK to generate when not maintaining spatter?
With deathstalker, it's always 2+ right?
balmy condor
it's fok on 2 with thrown precision talented
so if you don't run CT on court, you would still mut on 2
deep sorrel
And without vv you throw on 2 without thrown precision?
foggy beacon
anyone know what the envenom pandemic windows is seconds wise? for setting up a WA to glow when in pandemic window
balmy condor
!pd
prisma monolithBOT
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
balmy condor
And without vv you throw on 2 without thrown precision?
with VV you would mut on 2
without you would still mut on 2
it's thrown precision
deep sorrel
Nice to know, idk why I asked anyway cus that’s the one boss I don’t play sanguine blades/ ig
The mark falling off is too tilting to have to vanish on opener
grim vigil
i can skipp doomblade for m+ or?
limber lion
You want SBS
SBS is very strong and good and fun
Doomblade is shit yes
But it's an unfortunate travel node for SBS
thorn fjord
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
hexed root
would anyone have tips/advice on increasing caustic splatter uptime or really just need to fix my rotation? I think im dropping it because im trying to spread bleeds where it seems better to just focus one target to keep caustic up better?
balmy condor
if you don't need energy, don't spread bleeds
bleeds kinda suck outside of carnage and venomous wounds
hexed root
if you don't need energy, don't spread bleeds
bad to try and keep garrote/rupture up on both bosses for court?
hexed root
gotcha
spark cloud
do we still re-apply garrote at 6 seconds if it's replacing an improved garrote?
hexed root
need to dig in my logs more, lots of difference I'm currently fighting seemed mostly around caustic
spark cloud
i know the pandemic extends but its a stronger dot getting replaced by a weaker dot so im not sure
spark cloud
so letit run out then reaply?
balmy condor
yes
sour mist
balmy condor
it's limit 1
hexed root
mythic ulgrax, me vs other raid rogue
balmy condor
same raid?
hexed root
~22 mil difference in caustic dmg, and yea, same raid
balmy condor
feels like you're just not hitting adds in intermission tbh
hexed root
yea, we definitely have some downtime waiting for them to come across platform
mint valve
what does critical effect on culminating blasphemite mean?
balmy condor
crit damage
severe sparrow
does cloak break the webbies when youre attached on court?
mint valve
is that chance? damage multiplier? or crit stat?
so instead of
100% crit multiplier
its like..
balmy condor
100.15%
balmy condor
4 of them would be 100.6% yeh
crystal moss
Yo, there is a couple of builds for assa in m+, im switching from subtlety, which talents would be easier to learn?
balmy condor
play hybrid everywhere always
crystal moss
this one I suppose
balmy condor
yes
crystal moss
ty
balmy condor
I use radiant power cause it was cheaper and basically equal
keen spruce
That's how i choose my cocaine and strip clubs too
hexed root
i got a lot to work on for my mythic kills. first time seeing fights though so it'll come
sudden brook
Unc still got it
winged basin
HEROIC PRINCESS REPRESENTIN THE BIS SPEC RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
fringe beacon
is it better to spend all energy and wait for it to come up on a single target boss or better to slow down energy spendage so you always have some
winged basin
I ended up with a hero regicide too cause im our groups only rogue
hexed root
big dam
keen spruce
is it better to spend all energy and wait for it to come up on a single target b...
energy expenditure is based on maximizing envenom uptime
unless you're in CDs
then u spam
fringe beacon
so never let it drop below 33 energy