assassination

[eager tree]

and @ makeitquake

[novel star]

but yeah

need logs

[kind forge]

no dont ping him

[arctic socket]

@spice spire where’s George pic

[novel star]

who’s george

[crisp pine]

And yea also if you've done the fight like once and have to do mechanics
You're gonna do less damage than your patchwerk sim I'd say

[novel star]

is that the dog

in quakes profile

[crisp pine]

Learning experience

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[vast hound]

Wowlogs lagging lol

[timid vale]

sim prob has PI too

[crisp pine]

you did too much damage actually
lagging the site out
gj

[novel star]

pi is off by default in sims i thought

[polar timber]

wait till you have a dh in your group that does 10 million dmg in 2 globals

[crisp pine]

I played Sin in DF

[timid vale]

you right, you right

[novel star]

but still yeah

sim target dummy and then smack one

without any buffs

to see how close you are

[arctic socket]

That mask is why youre not doing

Can’t see your buttons

[vast hound]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/twisting-nether/apathyx

[crisp pine]

Yea
Also Belfs do 10% less damage

Try Velf next time

[novel star]

try pandaren

bis actually

[crisp pine]

god fuck I love pandaren

[novel star]

female panda +10% dps

cause you’re so fucking cool

[crisp pine]

If I didn't like forsaken racials so much
I'd go panda for animations

[arctic socket]

Orc is better that racial bis

[crisp pine]

dont @ me

[vast hound]

Im just trying to improve idk what im doing wrong

[arctic socket]

I can’t pull up logs

[crisp pine]

alright you go to a ST training dummy now
and hit that thing for like 6 minutes or smth
log that shit
and post it here

[vast hound]

Im not at home atm will do when i get hope and ill tag u

[cold parcel]

anyone know a good/cheaper replacement for ironclaw whetstone? that shit is too expensive...

[crisp pine]

Don't have to tag even, these people love devouring logs

[crisp pine]

oil

[vast hound]

I cant really afford wep enchants atm does that make a very big difference in dps?

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[cold parcel]

anything I can buy and dont have to farm

[crisp pine]

aaah oke
then it's oil

[arctic socket]

Get a lower ranked depths for dps biiig

Also pull up your log and just looking

[vast hound]

Those are like still 20k

[arctic socket]

Why are you not using caustic on second boss

[kind forge]

i mean if you sim with enchants and dont have any thats already a difference

besides miscues in playing

[vast hound]

On one boss i forgot to switch to ST spec

[eager tree]

caustic is not ST spec anyways

[cold parcel]

lol which one

[arctic socket]

I think he meant off of caustic

[crisp pine]

uuuh
Algari Mana Oil it's called I think

[arctic socket]

Idk how it is for fatebound

But that looks fucked

[crisp pine]

just get it off the auction house
it's giga cheap

[eager tree]

yeah bro you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the spc works just looking at that screenshot

would go to the rotation guide of whispyr's wowhead guide and study it

[arctic socket]

Like that opener is fucked fucked

Haha

[vast hound]

Thats why im trying to learn what im doing wrong

[eager tree]

its already written out for you

in the wowhead guide

[arctic socket]

Wasting shiv casts on nothing

[normal mist]

[eager tree]

casting slice and dice during kingsbane then casting deathmark

[arctic socket]

Not using thistle tea with kb

Ever

Wasting vanish at start

[novel star]

yeah you’re gonna get the most help by looking at wowhead

[arctic socket]

Used your pot way way way to early

Energy management looks scuffed af

[crisp pine]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps
Read this
This is gonna improve your damage a lot already

[normal mist]

Poor guy gonna quit rogue before lunch

[crisp pine]

The Rogues are being toxic again smh

[eager tree]

i don't see a single cast you did in that screenshot i agree with outside of some mutilate builders (for wrong spenders)

[novel star]

sometimes it’s small things that can be helped by asking the discord but when the issues are so fundamental it’s better to just read up for a little bit

[vast hound]

Thats the sad part been playing rogue for almost 5 expansions

[arctic socket]

No way

[vast hound]

But ive been away from the game since last xpac

And rogue changed abit since legion

[eager tree]

that is sad tbh but past is the past and if you fix it now it doesn't matter how long youve been playing

[arctic socket]

Read up on the rotation section on wowhead

And go to the dummy and practice that

[crisp pine]

It's alright
don't let the rogues being mean discourage you
just go to the wowhead guide and read up on rotation
You'll see what you're doing wrong immediately

[arctic socket]

And practice your dot uptime

A lot

[novel star]

i wouldn’t say it’s sad lol that’s kinda mean

but yeah

[vast hound]

Alright thanks for all the tips 🤍

[novel star]

just gotta scrap whatever you “know” and read the guide

[eager tree]

yeah sounds like he meant 5 different xpacs, not like hes been playing it for 5 expacs straight through DF

[vast hound]

Will do thanks for all the help guys

[eager tree]

so no not as sad

[sinful elk]

doing my first normal rn, ready to get ripped apart in logs haha

[novel star]

good luck brotha

[sinful elk]

classic andy to retail rogue is like

[tired gull]

Gl friend

[sinful elk]

woah

5 sinister strikes into 1 slice n dice.. where am i

[crisp pine]

I haven't stepped foot in the raid yet
so the people here can't be mean to me

[normal mist]

So my honest opinion, if you want to receive it is:

• read wowhead guide;
• be sure to have good talent trees;
• hit a dummy for a while;
• come back with questions.

You'll have answers and people will enjoy helping a brother in need.

[eager tree]

i parsed a 45 ilvl parse on H princess and makeitquake was very nice to me

[arctic socket]

There’s talent trees for every single boss use them

[novel star]

dummy hit is op

[sinful elk]

the fuck

boss by boss talents

[eager tree]

unless its been updated it does recommend CS for rashanan though, which doesnt work

[dire ivy]

isnt it mostly the same? its either caustic or no caustic no? atleast for nhc+ hc

[novel star]

i hadn’t played sin since like early sl and upon coming back to the game / applying to guilds for raiding i spent like a straight hour smacking dummy and figuring shit out

best decision i’ve made so far

shit broken

[dire ivy]

only 1 hour?

[novel star]

well all at once i mean

i still smack the dummy daily

for fun

[eager tree]

is there an actual dummy in dornogal? just see the big elemental mob

[novel star]

learning is forever

[novel star]

on top of the pillar next to him

[crisp pine]

Every time I go to the dummy there are 7 arcane mages practicing rotation
I can't see anything with all the barrages flying over my head

[novel star]

fly up there

[tired gull]

Kelpfist

[eager tree]

thanx

[tired gull]

And top of pillar

[novel star]

kelpfist loses hp

so inflated numbers because zoldyck

dummy on top is better

[vast hound]

Should i cast envenom at more than 5cb?

Or whenever i get 5+ i spam envenom?

[novel star]

anything 5+

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[tired gull]

If you go from 100-0 it takes anywhere from 4-5 minutes so it’s a decent gauge

[eager tree]

only needs to be 7 when trying to reapply deathstalker mark

[novel star]

don’t force higher than 5 but also don’t press it at 4

[arctic socket]

About total three different builds

[vast hound]

At 4 i use garrote to get to 5 or mutilate again?

[novel star]

mut again

[eager tree]

is garrote about to fall off?

[novel star]

don’t refresh bleeds outside of pandemic

(this is also all in the guide)

[sinful elk]

i really need something thatll help me track all these juicy procs like deathstalker mark lol

[vast hound]

Will keep that in mind

[novel star]

[vast hound]

Theres a wa on wagio

[sinful elk]

im about here operating BLINDLY off Hekili

[arctic socket]

Well

[novel star]

ain’t no way

[arctic socket]

There’s your mistake

[eager tree]

brave man to admit that lol

[arctic socket]

Explains so much

So much

[novel star]

sin hekili

[arctic socket]

Hekili is really bad for rogue

[novel star]

i heard it’s fine for outlaw

[dense cove]

@vast hound I think you would really benefit more from taking the time to watch this video. It’s long but explains a lot of the fundamentals in the talents that will help you make sense of WHY you’re pressing what you’re pressing. Then read the Wowhead guide to fill in the blanks or refresh your memory.

[novel star]

[arctic socket]

It’s like “passable” if you’re brand new and need to have somewhat of a basic thingy

[novel star]

hmm

[dense cove]

https://youtu.be/ygn2r-lR3f4?si=ULrhMJ1cNecbczye

[eager tree]

deathstalker mark isnt a proc, its a debuff you apply either with ambush or 7cp envenom

[arctic socket]

Yeah go listen to bro yap for over a hour xD

[eager tree]

darkest night is a proc you get after you consume all 3 stacks of mark on a target or the target dies with mark

[novel star]

true

it’s a good yap vid

[sinful elk]

Yeah, Hekili kinda helped for about 2 days of getting back into retail then i realised it was suggesting some wack ass shit

[arctic socket]

Yeh it’s really really bad for rogue

[vast hound]

Whats the best deathstalker st build for raids atm?

[eager tree]

its in the wowhead guide lol

[dense cove]

If he’s asking whether to garrote or mutilate at 4 combo points, I think it’s beneficial to watch that entire video. There is a lack of fundamentals and there is so much info in the wowhead guide I think it would be hard for him to pick the right things to focus on. That video covers very basic things that will help understand the fundamentals

[arctic socket]

It’s per boss

There’s a section that has a build for every single fight for you to use the optimal talents

[clever sapphire]

did i miss something or is there no place called nerubar nor one called cobwebs wtf

[vast hound]

Damn the mage discord wasnt even half as kind as u guys 😊😊

[crisp pine]

Wait really?

I thought we're the toxic ones lol

[vast hound]

Yeah they toxic asf

[arctic socket]

You know a discord that sucks going to?

[clever sapphire]

oh we are

[arctic socket]

The dh ones

[clever sapphire]

but not to rogues

[eager tree]

DH is the most toxic one

[vast hound]

DH shouldnt exist....

[crisp pine]

People flame the shit out of outlaw here

[vast hound]

Hate that class

[clever sapphire]

like me and our other rogue were legit talking about how we flame everyone else thats not a rogue

[vast hound]

Me2 hhehehe

[cursive shadow]

thoughts on sikrans endless arsenel?

[eager tree]

got CE on sylvanas and jailer as havoc and threw that class in the trash cuz i hated the discord so much

[clever sapphire]

ye i did say not to rogues didnt i?

[crisp pine]

that's fair, my b

[spring moat]

Uh. What’s pandemic

[arctic socket]

Go watch the video as well

[vast hound]

Will applications of improved garrote cast after deathmark benefit from deathmark?

[spring moat]

Is it a timer im not seeing

[arctic socket]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[arctic socket]

The weakaura there shows you a timer

It kinda glows when you go into pandemic

[spring moat]

I got whispyrs wago. Still getting used to it

[clever sapphire]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[clever sapphire]

deathmark duplicates whats on the mob, it doesnt snapshot things meaning you can reapply whatever you want during DM and its gonna get affected

[main hemlock]

Is 4p for assa rogue any good? Looking at its bonus it seems quite useless

[eager tree]

its not useless but yes its tuned low

dev evoker gets like 13% dps buff from their 4set

[clever sapphire]

assa tset is probably the least usefull, competing with sv hunter

[arctic socket]

Free damage is free damage

[vast hound]

So theres still a chance for assa buff?

[clever sapphire]

your healers will probably get tset before you

[eager tree]

who knows, our ST is very low

[arctic socket]

(Tier 2/4p together is around 3% damage buff)

[main hemlock]

yes but other classes just have so much better ones

[sinful elk]

Im starting to understand why the suggested UI/Weakaura packages are so popular, with the counting down actives on abilties etc. Will give one a try at the dummy after this raid

[main hemlock]

so compared to them it feels unrewarding to get a piece

[eager tree]

but our prio damage is good and with deathstalker we have good funnel and good reverse funnel

[clever sapphire]

im pretty sure when it was released there was a pin with like saying "its like having 10% extra mastery"

[crisp pine]

but how will that affect my statistical analysis of all possible delve drops?

[arctic socket]

It’s the s1 tier can’t expect too much

[spring moat]

So what to do if you have no vanish and the mark isn’t in your target. Just wait until you got vanish available again ?

[arctic socket]

4p looks good in my opinion+ tho

[novel star]

ideally never get in that situation

but yes

[clever sapphire]

yes

[crisp pine]

damn

[clever sapphire]

outsmarted

[spring moat]

Happened in my m+

[clever sapphire]

aye it can happen, just gotta make sure you dont get to that

[main hemlock]

in single target or aoe ?

[crisp pine]

and that's what we call a learning experience

[sinful elk]

thanks lads, time to start gaming

[spring moat]

Got knocked outta stealth right before glboss pull pulled

[crystal delta]

!enchant

[arctic socket]

St maybe both? Idk

[eager tree]

yeah would be nice if Deathstalker had a talent that let you cast ambush for 1s after leaving stealth

[novel star]

ye in that case it’s just unlucky

scammed

[eager tree]

for that exact situation where you get randomly pulled out of stealth

[main hemlock]

ahh was about to say 3% for aoe is quite shit

[clever sapphire]

its called "subterfuge" and its a big scam as it is

[crisp pine]

Subterfuge looks cool in 11.0.5
so maybe won't be a problem anymore

[novel star]

maybe

[crisp pine]

omg don't shit me I said maybe

[clear nexus]

is outlaw or sin hardest

[novel star]

ur still sacrificing a lotta shit for it

[kind forge]

[arctic socket]

Anyone here with wowhead premium wanna do a sim for me?

[crisp pine]

depends on what you think is hard

[eager tree]

i have raidbots premium if thats what you mean lol

[arctic socket]

Ye

Raid bots

[clear nexus]

tru dat

[slim pebble]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[clear nexus]

just you

[crisp pine]

If you got problems keeping up bleeds, sin is gonna be hard
if you got problems pressing buttons fast
outlaw is gonna be hard

[novel star]

overall damage is good boss damage is bad

[tired gull]

I can in like 2 hrs if no one gets you

[slim pebble]

Is it true we are swapping to 2x focusing lens? heard from co rogue in raid last night

but dont see anything here

[eager tree]

yes burst aoe and burst ST are both low right now. our utility isn't as great anymore either since being able to lock down a mob doesn't cancel casts like it used to

[novel star]

what? why would we do that

nothing has changed

[slim pebble]

Thats why im asking lol

[arctic socket]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gjFf2SzbqT37EEUyQFYKJX can someone rerun this sim for me

And get the most optimal enchants

[novel star]

focusing lens was the worst of the 3 main options always

[arctic socket]

And gems

[novel star]

and there have been no changes to it or the other ones

[eager tree]

wdym we scale with key level

[kind forge]

sec

[arctic socket]

@ me with it pls

[eager tree]

the longer trash mobs live the better our aoe will be if we can get full kingsbanes with CS out, but still won't touch the best ones

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-kid-yes-wink-gif-15886187

[kind forge]

I'll send you via DM

[slim pebble]

Ive only done one key and I topped DPS in it, was a 4 Grim batol

[clear nexus]

but its not low, and its only gonna get better

[eager tree]

bc right now prior mobs in keys are dying before kb finishes

[young dust]

i managed 1.3M overall in a necrotic wake 5 yesterday, sin is off the charts in m+ RN

[sinful elk]

any recommendations for assassination youtube/streamers?

[clever sapphire]

you get to cast kb?

[eager tree]

i dont think it in theory has one of the highest dmg caps

[royal lantern]

you joined 3days ago and then tell people "talk about gOoD StReAmErS" when somebody gives you a answer

bruh

[eager tree]

but it will be higher than most of us are experiencing now

[young dust]

almost ready for mythic boyz, 636 dagger on its way

[slim pebble]

Two heroic clears of dagger bosses and not a single dagger for me yet

[kind forge]

[royal lantern]

cus you are rude and i know the names here, and clicking on the Picture takes 2seconds

[crisp pine]

Do you know me tho

[kind forge]

@arctic socket sent you in DM

[royal lantern]

ye cus slugcat is bis

we love the scugs here

[crisp pine]

idk dude there's this guy called Whispyr or smth
Heard he streams but idk if he knows what he's talking about

[eager tree]

what timezone is whispyr in does anyone know

[royal lantern]

westcoast NA, idk the Name

[crisp pine]

Bruh like I'm scrolling up to see your message lmfao

[novel star]

this who ur all talking to rn. watch the fuck out he’s scary

[kind forge]

dont be so rude and toxic

[clever sapphire]

you mean you are not going through my message history whenever you reply to me?

[kind forge]

or i am calling the cops

[crisp pine]

I'm looking at your reddit profile rn

[kind forge]

👮

[clever sapphire]

i dont have one

[novel star]

you literally did

[crisp pine]

Go type
Assassination on Twitch
Nerd

[kind forge]

?

[clear nexus]

get roasted e the betrayer

[young dust]

why are you guys washing dirty laundry on class disc

stop being weirdos

[royal lantern]

this is #assassination ????

[peak condor]

boys do we have a skill that interupts aoe those affixes ghosts? i tried with blind but work only on 1

[novel star]

your initial question had “or is it just me?” in it. @clear nexus types “just you” which is a completely valid answer and literally one you asked for and you already spit this for whatever reason

don’t try to pull the i didn’t start it shit pussy

admit ur an asshole and commit to it

[kind forge]

you need to blind a mob next to them, then you could hit all

[young dust]

nope but blind wiuth airborne irritant works if you aim on the center one

[clever sapphire]

you "can" spread iron wire on them if you still have IC active i guess (besides the blind thing they said)

[young dust]

like in the middle of a boss, for example

[crisp pine]

letsgoooo, the mask fell off

[clear nexus]

yea we're all weirdos here

[royal lantern]

you need to use it on normal enemys, it doesnt cleave when used on orbs for some reason

[novel star]

awww are you mad little guy

:3

[young dust]

do you guys get annoyed AF as well by this affix removing stealth?

[novel star]

ur such a cutie patootie

[young dust]

that is dogshit

[royal lantern]

a bit weird but eh, thats out of combat then and free 20% haste for next pack

[peak condor]

ty, so if i blind a mob next to them, they all will be affected?

[clever sapphire]

probably because the mob disappears as soon as you press blind so the aoe blind part of the talent never triggers

[royal lantern]

yes

[peak condor]

tyvm boys 🙂

[kind forge]

yes

[clear nexus]

yup

[novel star]

i could just pinch ur cheeks rn and i bet you’d get all red and start giggling @warm shuttle :3

[fallen arch]

Ye blind kinda sucks doesn’t it for this affix

[crisp pine]

omg do me next

[clear nexus]

but it should get hotfixed, yo should be able to blind them only

[clever sapphire]

i get more annoyed by the fact that it keeps me in combat if i interact with them and even more in the labyrinth of mists

[peak condor]

❤️

[novel star]

the betrayerrrr

[clear nexus]

Why do you think sin has low damage in keys

[crisp pine]

look man if all the good streamers and you do 0 damage in keys or w/e this is about
Then sure, sin is ass, just switch spec or class

[peak condor]

olii sins dont pinch cheeks bro xD :)))))))

[tired gull]

Madge

[novel star]

i do this lil qt3.14 deserves it

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/scugsign-scug-rain-world-you-gif-8677259916635512773

[crisp pine]

Ait fr tho anyone else hyped af about the new Rainworld DLC?

[charred salmon]

How big of a gain is 2p and 4p in %?

[clever sapphire]

3

like together its 3

2p is like 0.8

or smth like that

[dusty zenith]

Can’t wait for tier….

[charred salmon]

Damn our tier sucka

[tired gull]

2 pc is satisfying cause even juicier envenoms

[clever sapphire]

it does

[crisp pine]

It does, yea

[clever sapphire]

since you get to press cooldowns

[royal lantern]

@warm shuttle assa is high dmg in m+ rn cus spatter/CT are overtuned af and are in nerf area for lol, enemys dying or staying alive doesnt change that because we are not "lol kingsbane" anymore where nothing else does any dmg

if you do low dmg in keys rn, you do something kinda wrong and should check the guides again, cus that should NOT be a thing, pressing CT alone does absurd aoe dmg

[clever sapphire]

i dunno, i dont really feel my tset at all

[royal lantern]

if enemys stay alive for longer, yeha sure, dm+kb cleave can do more, but thats less impact then it was in late DF

[clever sapphire]

i swear i felt my dps increase more from getting a passive proc trinket than from getting 4pc

[royal lantern]

~1.2% each

[dusty zenith]

Rupture everything, splatter , fok , CT, fok, fok, envenom rinse and repeat

[arctic cove]

how accurate is raidbots sim? Its telling me ovinax is better than ara-kara trink and it feels wrong

[eager tree]

raidbots sim is much more accurate than any bis list

[clever sapphire]

kb got hit with many nerfs over DF and even coming into TWW so now its not that massive anymore

[charred salmon]

Do we think sin tier Will be tuned?

[novel star]

theres a lot of close alternatives to sac

[royal lantern]

your priprority is CT>rupture on ~5guys>st skills and cleave with spatter

[oak eagle]

doubtful

[arctic cove]

i see

[crisp pine]

KB got nerfed, but it's still good if you can full blast a prio mob with it
so higher key lvls are gonna be good
but we also do a fuckton of damage with spatter and CT now

[peak condor]

GARROTE?

[novel star]

skardyns is the only trink that’s like not replaceable

[crisp pine]

which is cool

[clever sapphire]

tbh if sin tier gets buffed our aoe gonna get buffed and then mages gonna go "whY dOeS aSSa out DmG ME"

and blizz gonna nerf

[mental wedge]

whats the haste we tryna not surpass ?

[eager tree]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[dusty zenith]

Garrote is low priority to spread just hit it once

[novel star]

garrote sucks without stealth

not worth the gcd unless it’s for energy

[royal lantern]

you dont apply garrote in AoE outside of stealth buffs

[dusty zenith]

This

[clever sapphire]

but like with IC its big dps

[timid ginkgo]

Whitch m+ Talents u guys playing?

[novel star]

hybrid ds

[eager tree]

so if you all are going into a m+ pack with 0 cps, do you stealth garrote twice then rupture then CT from the CP refund of rupture with SBS?

[sick pewter]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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[young dust]

guys, if you're starting a new pack in dungeon AND you have DN buff, what's the prio between caustic splatter/envenom/rupture/CT?

[clever sapphire]

gar - gar - rup - rup -gar - fok - ct

or smth like this

[dusty zenith]

Garrote once and rupture and spread rupture to other target that didn’t get it first

[clever sapphire]

is my aoe rota i think

[novel star]

4th gar before ct if enough mobs

[young dust]

without mutilate for splatter or envenom for mark? this i'm always in doubt

[clever sapphire]

splatter comes after i spread bleeds and CT

spatter

[novel star]

^

[young dust]

like is it worth doing rupture without having mark first

[eager tree]

if the DN is going to fall off before you naturally get the envenom then you apply it from ambush. otherwise just wait til you naturally get to envenom and ensure it has 7 cps

[novel star]

just look at the openers on wowhead tbh

[timid ginkgo]

Someone can Tell me whitch build they play in m+?

[young dust]

aight, thanks

[novel star]

ye but depends how long is on dn

[young dust]

i did, they just don't consider DN

[eager tree]

most are doing hybrid deathstalker

[novel star]

you have to cuck the opener sometimes for dn

but generally yeah you would prefer to get all bleeds up first

[young dust]

got it, it's easier now with RC fixed

[novel star]

[eager tree]

hybrid is better in both imo now, i know wowhead guide says bleed for lower

[novel star]

depends on your party really but yeah

[tired gull]

Cba to run bleed in low keys

[novel star]

even playing with frost dks and shit i find hybrid has value

[clever sapphire]

tbh for like 2s bleed is better for sure because mobs get to execute range by the time you press CT

[novel star]

and i enjoy it more

[young dust]

yea, especially if you have a fury warrior in your party lmao

fury warriors dishing 4M dps on pack

[clever sapphire]

hybrid is always better tbh, if packs die fast hybrid gonna do more boss dmg so more value there

[crisp pine]

If they don't die heroic-dungeon fast
hybrid is nice

[novel star]

fury war and frost dk burst meta

despair

[young dust]

-cris in big opener-

[clever sapphire]

only thing i miss from hybrid build is blindside, i really love my ambush procs

dunno why

i just love it

[wicked dagger]

Ret pali opener damage is huge too

[crisp pine]

You remember the DH meta in DF?
Where all our damage was from kingsbane
That shit was horrible lol

[novel star]

fair

does feel nice on bosses

even if the damage is worse

[limber dew]

I'm ripping 2-4m on each pack as hybrid even in +2s, but if you have burst damage classes you find yourself unable to caustic splatter before everything is dead.

[novel star]

energy economy buff from blindside is so satisfying

[clever sapphire]

(also im dumb enough to still use a seperate ambush bind even tho it turns my mutilate to ambush)

love pressing that button

[tired gull]

Execute is so satisfying with blindside

[crisp pine]

does the cleave build use blindside still?
Just go do +20s then, easy

[kindred pewter]

Is assa scaling good?

[novel star]

[clever sapphire]

aight time to do my world first +20 arakara

wanna join?

[crisp pine]

sure
giga comp
3 sin rogues

[clever sapphire]

we gonna ignore the adds on first boss

[kindred pewter]

Is assa that good in m+?

[clever sapphire]

tank better run around the dungeon

[limber dew]

In the 95%+ assa is 17th overall and 7th ST when I checked last night.

[clever sapphire]

scaling in which definition? stats or with key lvl or what exactly

[limber dew]

In m+ it seems very respectable, the silences it provides on each pack is brilliant

[timid ginkgo]

where do i get the hybrid build ?

[clever sapphire]

wowhead

its the default suggested m+ build

[limber dew]

Raider io will have the meta builds within their highest ranking assa rogues

[young dust]

and blind afterwards, it's definitely top tier

[kindred pewter]

Like assa st is kind poop now will it get alot better with gear

[limber dew]

I tend to rip my builds from there.

@young dust 100% mate

[clever sapphire]

eh you will still be mid even with gear tbh

[limber dew]

Kicks, cheap shots everything we bring is actually good

[clever sapphire]

cheap shot O.o

[young dust]

people are running assa on some mythic bosses, specially rashanan who has a big execute phase

[clever sapphire]

i dont even have that bound

[crisp pine]

I've never pressed cheap shot in my life

[young dust]

on broodtwister it's dope as well

[limber dew]

I'm hitting 99% logs and fall to like 9th on the guild damage meters. It's depressing

[kindred pewter]

Alright, im just not sure with what spec to go with on mythic prog

[clever sapphire]

assuming you dont have 2 frost dks and 2 fury warriors like liquid had when i checked yesterday

[crisp pine]

Abuse the sub bug ez

[clever sapphire]

all 3 specs are good, sub probably gonna be highest for pure boss dmg

[woven shore]

how is it possible that 92 Logs are at 860k dps but 99 logs start at 920+

[clever sapphire]

outlaw probably wins out on cleave?

[young dust]

yea there's no way to outdamage dumpy pumpy and pumpy dumpy

[woven shore]

wtf

[kindred pewter]

Is sub bugged?

[vestal wren]

the fixed one?

[limber dew]

@woven shore because of RNG, gear and skill

[crisp pine]

oh damn they fixed it?

[woven shore]

yes because outlaw has concistant cleave dmg

[clever sapphire]

i mean they did 6M dps and exile was doing 2M

[vestal wren]

yes, and removed the gcd of coup

[clever sapphire]

also because spatter doesnt work on like rashanan and whatnot because of range

[crisp pine]

oh shit that's hype

[woven shore]

depends

[novel star]

that’s crazy that guy called me a they/it freak with cancer earlier

he kinda cooked me

[woven shore]

my guild spawns minions on boss

[limber dew]

@crisp pine I think the highest rashanon log uses splatter

[young dust]

well that depends on how your guildies are spreading on the boss as well

[limber dew]

Or it did 2 days ago as I have every boss build setup to switch and update it depending on gear and meta etc

[young dust]

my arcane mage is casting 20 yards away

[clever sapphire]

you still wont spatter on that guy

[royal lantern]

tbf, that had to be fixed kinda fast

[crisp pine]

uh
oke?

[limber dew]

And it did have caustic splatter at rank 1 at one point in the last 2 days

[crisp pine]

Did I say anything about splatter and rashanon

[limber dew]

Ah sorry maybe I miss read something lol

😂

[woven shore]

no ?

[novel star]

even if the adds are spawned close to rash i think you still cant reach with spatter right

[woven shore]

the other talent barely deals any dmg

[limber dew]

Sorry it was murlock my phone keeps jumping when people message 😂

[vestal wren]

i spreqd the word so to say, i did put it forward to blizz and informed streamers/world first raiders.
Was fixed fast after that.
I think bugs like this always need the highest level of transparency, even if not fixed, to avoid accidental use.

[normal mist]

I said fuck it and went legit full ST on that boss

[novel star]

yeh

did 500k with spatter on him

[clever sapphire]

this is the dmg breakdown of the 3rd highest assa dps on rashanan (he has spatter talented)

[crisp pine]

Yea that bug was kinda fucked

[tawny geyser]

I did 95 on Broodtwister with CS only.
Haven't tried CT yet.

[normal mist]

This sounds so sweaty. Idk how you guys keep up like that

[novel star]

where is it man HAHAHH

[woven shore]

lol wtf

[clever sapphire]

exactly

[spice spire]

Where pic of ur cat

[vestal wren]

also just to mention this, big 👍 to everyone who did help in the bug chase and helped figuring out how to re-create it

[woven shore]

so assa sucks as

s

[novel star]

i mean

[normal mist]

Yes

Delete assa

[clever sapphire]

you just go full ST

[novel star]

yeah

[normal mist]

Go arcane mage

[woven shore]

no

[vestal wren]

assa is double ass

[woven shore]

go Warrior

[novel star]

we still have the extra execute value on rasha tho

[woven shore]

[novel star]

just no spatter

[normal mist]

Arcane mage is better

[vestal wren]

(because it has ass 2 times in the game)

[normal mist]

You have higher uptime

[woven shore]

not the arcane in my guild

[normal mist]

You're telling me

The player playing the class

[novel star]

going affli

[crisp pine]

I think arcane mage was bugged yesterday for a couple of hours too?

[clever sapphire]

not sure what changes on mythic but this guy has big spatter value on mythic

[normal mist]

MATTERS?

[crisp pine]

iirc

[woven shore]

noo

the class choices the player

[novel star]

maybe spawning adds close to boss does work or smth

[woven shore]

[prisma laurel]

does anyone here use parrot 2 for CST? if you can can you dm me you profile

[woven shore]

thats why im fucking the raid

Assa choice me

and i got something pretty yesterday from illidan

some kind of axe to try outlaw

[normal mist]

It's meh

[woven shore]

610 is 610

[normal mist]

Yeah

[woven shore]

i hope outlaw is smooth

maybe ill swap

[kindred pewter]

I managed to get the fist weapon from princess so i swaped to outlaw from assa

[novel star]

being smooth is outlaws whole thing

they press buttons really fast and never stop

[woven shore]

9% haste tho fml

i know

[novel star]

that’s enough for HO build no?

[clever sapphire]

i dunno, zac is still not yellow so im gonna assume outlaw still not big

[crisp pine]

outlaw has some cringe BtE bugs tho
If they didn't get fixed too

[kindred pewter]

Thats enough for ho build

[normal mist]

I'm also doing that fight with outlaw lootspec

[woven shore]

wtf is ho

[spice spire]

Real

[novel star]

hidden opportunity

[normal mist]

Hidden opportunity

[novel star]

i think

[kindred pewter]

Hidden oppertunity

[woven shore]

ah

[limber dew]

@normal mist I have to be sweaty I'm old and have a "I used to be sooo good stubborness" that I really have to try hard to be even slightly decent else I hate myself 😂😂.

[woven shore]

what was that again LOL

[spice spire]

@novel star

[novel star]

aw :(

[woven shore]

didnt play outlaw since shadowlands

[kindred pewter]

You get backstab procs

Ambushw

[spice spire]

[kindred pewter]

I mean

[clever sapphire]

aaah i see what you did there, putting the "i think" there to hide that you main outlaw

[woven shore]

aah the backstab spamm thing

[normal mist]

You know what my man, proud of you. Pump those numbers, be #1, let's go

[novel star]

i don’t i just read the channel sometimes

when sin chat is dead

[clever sapphire]

i sometimes go into outlaw, 1000+ messages, go for a coffe, 2000+ messages, i come back to assa

[kindred pewter]

I hate that assa st is dog poop

[novel star]

why don’t we have the fancy !log command

[normal mist]

Play with average players

[novel star]

outlaws have all the high tech

[clever sapphire]

well that i do not know

[spice spire]

We do but it’s an old commend

[novel star]

ah

[spice spire]

That links wowa

[clever sapphire]

isnt it linking to that one page that had accurate data back in like S1 df or so?

[novel star]

oh that

yeah i saw that

i mean like te

[spice spire]

9.2

[woven shore]

do you play nightstalker on outlaw ?

[clever sapphire]

close enough

[spice spire]

[novel star]

open a thread automatically thing

[kindred pewter]

I think in just gonna stick to outlaw for awhile

[novel star]

that outlaws get

[woven shore]

or fatebound

probably fatebound right?

[spice spire]

We used to do that

But sometimes I get tired of looking at logs

And was the only one in df

[clever sapphire]

ask in outlul, but fatebound 100% since the other one wants killing spree, and thats a no go

[novel star]

old

WHAT

AUTOCORRECT

[woven shore]

exactly i get tired of my 88 logs and 92
thats so fucking bad

[spice spire]

Until I stopped and people like shmeeps steooed up

[novel star]

I MEANT OOF

[clever sapphire]

god damn oli toxic

[spice spire]

No old is right

[novel star]

i’m sorry that’s fucked up

actual phone grief

[oak eagle]

yo at what point in AoE do we wanna stop using FoK and swap it for Mutilate?

[clever sapphire]

3- mobs

[oak eagle]

k ty

[novel star]

when spatter is about to run out

[clever sapphire]

and well keep spatter up

[ripe carbon]

and for CT

[kindred pewter]

Yes ofc it works but why would i play something that feels like shit and does shit dmg

[novel star]

but yeah

[ripe carbon]

i mean CS

[clever sapphire]

so you mutilate every 9 sec or so

[royal python]

Is there a bug which prevents lucky coin n instead heads or tails increments to a count of 8

[royal lantern]

ye i 100% agree

OR, how people on the forum love to say "but i did high dmg??? you HATE fun!!!"

[oak eagle]

i mean, sometimes but most of the time no

[clever sapphire]

assa feels like the best spec to me personally

[novel star]

mutilate at 1/2 mobs (1 if m+ deathstalker)

fan at 3+ mobs (2+ if m+ deathstalker)

ct at 2+ always

[clever sapphire]

from all of the specs in the game

[novel star]

is the numberz

[kindred pewter]

On aoe assa feels very good but on st its mega shit

[vestal wren]

i mean we did the same since i started doing TC

[sinful elk]

so.. literally ignore this proc entirely if spec'd into VV?

[oak eagle]

what was the sub bug?

[novel star]

yes

ignore

[feral mason]

how strong is the assa set on aoe

like 5%?

[vestal wren]

let me find it for you

moment

[clever sapphire]

aye

[sinful elk]

what a talent

[royal lantern]

DN apperantly stayed active all the time + flensing knives was active when that talent doesnt even exist anymore when you took the replacment talent

[vestal wren]

#subtlety message

[spice spire]

What’s DN?

[vestal wren]

^ the first of the bugs in the message

[clever sapphire]

i mean with vv talented your mutilate does more dmg than that proc 🤷‍♂️

[novel star]

Donuts

yummy

[spice spire]

Nice

[clever sapphire]

so DN is the first of the bugs in the message got it

[spice spire]

Solid breakfast

[novel star]

want one?

[spice spire]

[royal lantern]

the thing i wanna gobble on

[vestal wren]

haha, quake did send a message just at the right time

[clever sapphire]

calculated

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

3 steps ahead call me nikocado avocado

[clever sapphire]

a donut ofcourse

[vestal wren]

the capstone of deathstalker - Darkest Night

[oak eagle]

so did this bug just get recently fixed then? or did it get fixed when you first told Blizz devs about it?

[spice spire]

It’s actually deez nuts

[sturdy stirrup]

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him-gif-12313683

[vestal wren]

i did put it forward and exile did put it forward through the race world first contacts.
Realz iirc was the one who fixed it quite fast after that.

[novel star]

goatz

[clever sapphire]

fuu said the name of he who shall not be named

[oak eagle]

W REALZ

[feral mason]

REAWZ

[oak eagle]

^ fax

[vestal wren]

what did exile do?

[left sundial]

İn m plus you guys save vanish for spread chain mobs your dots sometimes vanish not comes after boss fight

[clever sapphire]

i dunno, you ask him

[vestal wren]

[oak eagle]

im assuming he meant Realz, but idk

[left sundial]

Main rotation after vanish ambush garrote fır improve garrote close to boss dies should i save for add packs in these scenarios

[novel star]

exile took spatter on rashanan must be a good talent

[clever sapphire]

i use vanish on bosses only to reapply deathstalkers mark in case it drops

[vestal wren]

i know, i just tried to be funny

[oak eagle]

ahh wasnt sure

[clever sapphire]

otherwise vanish for aoe pulls/chain pulls

[oak eagle]

can never tell whats sarcasm with you fuu

[clever sapphire]

ye i did, but fuu also knew it and i got lost

[oak eagle]

so what youre saying is, L bozo + ratio + ur bald + i eat ass

[clever sapphire]

you eat my bald ass? bet

[oak eagle]

bring it here big boy

[clever sapphire]

fastest typer in the west, i put the emoji before you replied

[oak eagle]

i type pretty fuckin fast ngl

been using a keyboard since i can remember

theres pictures of me as a baby sitting on my dads lap typing on the keyboard he had

[clever sapphire]

do you use the 10 finger system or whatever thats called? i cant for the life of me use it xD

[frigid pilot]

this is why its important to read, first raidnight i wasnt foking or trying to go to max combo asap to spend DN

[oak eagle]

nah i typically only use 4 fingers or so

[sage frost]

can you cloak of shadows/cheese queen ansurek's poison knockup mechanic?

[frigid pilot]

and no ambush on opener

[oak eagle]

maybe a couple more depending on where keys are

[kindred pewter]

Whats ur wpm

[clever sapphire]

so you played without a hero tree, dayum

[frigid pilot]

ye LOL

well, the vanish later did an ambush

[oak eagle]

no idea never used type racer

[frigid pilot]

so eventually got DN

but yeah

was silly how much lil nuances they added

[kindred pewter]

Not fast then

[vestal wren]

DN has highest priority on sub too

[frigid pilot]

i just assumed everythin would be as usual, keep dots up, keep snd up blah blah

[frigid pilot]

yeah i bet

[sinful elk]

If I'm running pure single target spec from wowhead (WITHOUT imp garrote), am i vanishing on CD purely for the sake of ambushing->to apply deathstalker mark?

[oak eagle]

so what? just because i dont use type racer means im not fast at typing aight bud

[frigid pilot]

but atleast sub has 2 vanishes

[clever sapphire]

i just press cloak for the big dmg that happens after like 6 seconds after the knockup

3rd knockup is the one that usually hurts i thin

[frigid pilot]

just feels weird mutilating/shadowstriking with -1 points to max

to reach dn threshold

[feral mason]

okay ye i definitely need 4p

7% on aoe sheesh

[vestal wren]

sub has shadow dance, so its rly not a issue

[sage frost]

oh so u cant just stay on boss? gotcha

[frigid pilot]

whats the % dps loss if we never fok in st

[oak eagle]

i mean, as sin, you could just press garrote

[normal mist]

With VV?

Nothing

[clever sapphire]

you can, but you will still take the dmg that happens after so there isnt a reason to

[frigid pilot]

does garrote proc dn? i thought just ambusah according to tooltip

[clever sapphire]

just take the knockup and immune the dmg after

[frigid pilot]

pretty sure we have to ambush once nomatter the spec

[normal mist]

With deathstalker

First ability from stealth

[oak eagle]

you were just talking about to get to the threashold to use an envenom to then reapp deathstalkers mark

or am i just restarted

[normal mist]

Yo

[frigid pilot]

this time we're talking about first global outta stealth

[clever sapphire]

he didnt say a bad word

[raven panther]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[normal mist]

Care with those filter evasions

[oak eagle]

my bad

[clever sapphire]

aye that has to be ambush, but as assa you only ever press ambush for Deathstalkers mark

[normal mist]

I understand. Just say stupid

[clever sapphire]

so its meh

[normal mist]

We can all be stupid

[spice spire]

Real

[frigid pilot]

feel like they shoulda let mark proc off garote for sin

for the "lore"

[normal mist]

Everyone here agrees

It changes nothing

[clever sapphire]

i got so used to ambush, i would be weirded out if it got changed to garrote

[frigid pilot]

yeah cus its awk having to remember in keys when theres big downtime to reambush

to get it rolling again

when ur whole thing is about bleeds

[clever sapphire]

i mean if the mob with the mark dies you get the DN for 30 sec to reapply it

[oak eagle]

you do

[normal mist]

30 sec out of combat is real downtime Jesus

[frigid pilot]

"big downtime"

[clever sapphire]

ah ye im blind

[frigid pilot]

theres some RP on bosses

[oak eagle]

this is why you hold vanish when you get close to bosses

[clever sapphire]

i didnt have my food yet

[normal mist]

You can track the buff

[oak eagle]

incase that happens

[frigid pilot]

i am, just somethin to keep track of

sometimes out of habit i'll open with garote, vanish on cd DN is not up and im like fuck, gotto hope tank lets me restealth b4 next pack

had to ask 3-4 tanks to stop chainpulling with 1 sec left, cus we have carnage

0 brain tanks

[clever sapphire]

okay ye this has happend to me a few times already

[frigid pilot]

yeah

[clever sapphire]

you can also just stand back a bit

you dont have to get into combat just because the tank does

[frigid pilot]

i'm gonna write a macro for party chat "dont chainpull if mob is 1% hp left, let me restealth mofo"

[frigid pilot]

i do, but there's sometimes forced combat

[marble cradle]

just need to fix that habit was same but getting better with ambushes and maintaning through dg

[clever sapphire]

well ye those suck

[untold snow]

emm TIL you can use 1 hour trickster tricks on sub/outlaw then change to assa and the buff persists even if you dont have tricks talented

[oak eagle]

no way

[frigid pilot]

i think a huge change would be if we dont touch new mobs, we shouldnt be in combat

[oak eagle]

that cant be real

[frigid pilot]

i dont give a damn if tank/others hit new targets

[frigid pilot]

is that bannable?

[azure owl]

Does anyone know how the string to sim weekly rewards in raidbots? it goes something like ### weekly rewards choices ###

[sinful elk]

thank fuck, i dont have to shoot this damn aimed gear trinket anymore

[royal lantern]

you do /simc with your open vault and use that

thats it

put it in topgear sims and enjoy

[oak eagle]

wait a minute

[azure owl]

okay and how to do it without a vault to open xD

[royal lantern]

?

[oak eagle]

you can sim your vault without needing to gear compare the stuff

no shot

[royal lantern]

what should that do lol

[oak eagle]

where do i do that

[novel star]

yeah you do it with top gear

[royal lantern]

for like 3years now

[oak eagle]

SINCE WHEN

BRUH

WHY WASNT I TOLD THIS

[novel star]

just click the vault ingame and /simc

[azure owl]

You just add it below top gear string

[novel star]

i also only found out this week tbh

[royal lantern]

since SL introduced the weekly vault lol

[oak eagle]

i been using gear compare and manually typing in each piece of gear

bruh

[royal lantern]

well

[novel star]

[royal lantern]

you can do it in 3second sinstead

[clever sapphire]

last i checked it didnt work (delve week where i wanted to play assa in delves)

[royal lantern]

just open vaulrt, do the ussual /simc with it open->topgear and sim all pieces in it

[tired gull]

Vault sim is goated

[azure owl]

I already picked my reward this week tho, so it doesn't show the weekly reward choices in the string

[spice spire]

[novel star]

oh then i’m confused what you’re trying to sim

[marble cradle]

u wanna see if u missed something better or what?

[azure owl]

Wait maybe I'll get the string on another char ;p

Basically

I wanna figure out the best crafted item

for me

Without having to browse all the combinations

[oak eagle]

well

do you have hero track daggers

if not

craft dagger

if you do

craft bracers/belt/boots

[gusty adder]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[marble cradle]

its like 4 item slots to check wep/wrist/belt/boots

[azure owl]

`### Weekly Reward Choices

-your items-

End of Weekly Reward Choices`

Can just put that below simc string and sim choices right?

[balmy condor]

Why would you do that

[sturdy crater]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[balmy condor]

Just look up the crafted gear

In top gear

And then gg

[azure owl]

Feels easier to me xD

[marble cradle]

u can add items here

[novel star]

i couldn’t figure out how to add embellishments to the searched gear i might be just a buffoon tho

a classic oli flub

[azure owl]

You have to click the + on the crafted item once you chose it

And chose the embellishement

[marble cradle]

this +

[novel star]

stg it didn’t show embellishments when i did that

[balmy condor]

Feels easier to try and copy items one by one instead of clicking a + a couple extra times!

Sounds delusional!

[novel star]

i must be an idiot

or misremembering

[balmy condor]

True

[novel star]

[marble cradle]

maybe u clicked non crafted piece or something

[balmy condor]

One of those

[novel star]

thanks babe

[balmy condor]

For sure

[novel star]

possible

[azure owl]

I'm just different dont mind me xD

[nova aspen]

morning

we 2 pc gaming

[oak eagle]

imagine not being a 4p gamer

[novel star]

whispyr u wanna free ban

[nova aspen]

thats how it be sometimes

[spice spire]

Why does this look like sink demon

[balmy condor]

I can’t ban myself anymore that was an issue at one point so now the bot has anti-self-ban logic

[arctic socket]

Don’t you call my cat a demon

[royal lantern]

thats the reason we tell people for like 4-5 years now "just sim your vault"

cus its simple, done in 5-6 clicks and gives the most accurate answer

[novel star]

i mean a weirdo in here earlier

[spice spire]

Iykyk

[spice spire]

I’m right here bud

[royal lantern]

my first thought aswell

1 more week

until sink demon pics

[spice spire]

Bless

[balmy condor]

Idk who this weirdo is

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

Name is weird

[limber lion]

[novel star]

he kinda owned me there

but

[tired gull]

Nice cat

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

Ah

Yeah… that’s uh

[novel star]

LMAO

the betrayerrrrr

[crisp pine]

look we can't all be as cool as them

[oak eagle]

yeah i was just inputting each option into gear compare all in different gear sets to make sure i dont screw up

[normal kindle]

Does the raid RING proc is upped by our talents as poison or not ?

[novel star]

i’m not personally that bothered either way cause it’s really funny how mad homie got but

[novel star]

no

class mechanics and items don’t interact

[royal lantern]

ye, but like, doesnt change anything really, its just the best ring for everyone cus its free dmg 🤷‍♂️

[novel star]

ever afaik?

[royal lantern]

oh wait

[novel star]

or at least like usually never

[royal lantern]

INTERACT

no

[arctic socket]

How come

[royal lantern]

i thought you mean proc

[arctic socket]

Healers roll on my damage ring

(I had to buy the ring)

From wueen

[marsh idol]

Apologies if this is mentioned before Deathstalker as buggy as it is. Is anyone else having issues when you’ve got Darkest Night buff and mark on a target and it’s not using the marks when they should until Darkest Night is gone?

[royal lantern]

because the dmg is the same for everyone?

like

its like the eranog ring lol

not really more or less special, just free dmg for everyone

[novel star]

yeh

[oak eagle]

can i only put darkmoon on a dagger? or can i put it on any piece

[novel star]

dagger

[oak eagle]

ok

ty

[novel star]

and have to use an armor embellishment or 2nd dagger

to double the effect

for it to be worth

doing like 1 dawnthread 1 ascension just sucks afaik

[oak eagle]

!crafting

[novel star]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice spire]

[oak eagle]

just wanted to see what else i need to sim and such

[spice spire]

Gl homie

[novel star]

how much

[arctic socket]

300k

Was cheap

[novel star]

jesus bro

that’s like 1.7 wow tokens or smt

[arctic socket]

Worth

[balmy condor]

You are never getting money again what the fuck

[arctic socket]

[novel star]

unreal

[storm forum]

That's more than I've ever had in my life

[arctic socket]

On not 300k

200k

[novel star]

what track is it

[arctic socket]

Normal

[novel star]

200k is still a lot

[arctic socket]

[novel star]

WHAT

[arctic socket]

Worth it

[novel star]

ain’t no fucking way bro

[arctic socket]

I ain’t wanted it on a healer

[novel star]

[marble cradle]

normal track ring for 200k wow

[balmy condor]

Actually deranged behavior you had 0 gold and then I bailed you out with 600k and first 2 days you buy a 50k transmog and a 200k normal ring

What is wrong with you lmao

[novel star]

is this true

[spice spire]

You have mental Illinois bud

[novel star]

it can’t be

[arctic socket]

I memed at you with the 50k tmog

[grim jay]

dang I tuned right in

[storm forum]

Whispyr can I have 600k?

[grim jay]

on the drama

[arctic socket]

I did buy a rank 3 depths tho

For like 30k

[balmy condor]

Respectable

[arctic socket]

You’re the goat tho whisper

But saying you bailed me out

In this chat

[novel star]

i wish i got a free 600k i need wow tokens to play the game

[arctic socket]

To everyone

[spice spire]

Yeah sure man