Ya feel me
#assassination
spice spire
cerulean walrus
Me!?
tired gull
quake do you work on a farm.. are you hogging it right now
worn badger
are you trying to FD in real life ?
nova aspen
grim jay
are you trying to FD in real life ?
every morning
spice spire
No I actually work in a hospital
tired gull
i've been to a hospital a time or two in my life
spice spire
I work with the poor and sick specifically 
grim jay
I work with the poor and sick specifically <:SmileDog:1181912280053600256>
what do you know, I work with poor and sick people
but not in a hospital
cerulean walrus
Quake are they young enough for you?
worn badger
what do you know, I work with poor and sick people
those are just everyday americans these days =/
spice spire
Quake are they young enough for you?
Not entertaining this one
cerulean walrus
Okay okay sorry king
slim tundra
is double vanish gnna be better for mythics?
spice spire
It’s too real with work irl
spice spire
is double vanish gnna be better for mythics?
No
grim jay
Not entertaining this one
dw its close to dying out, its getting old and we all know you aint into that
cerulean walrus
grim jay
ocean bear
Works with the poor and sick, a.k.a KiR Outlaws
haughty flicker
tired gull
this cat is filled with pure EVIL i can sense it
grand trail
did you guys coooked smg for delves at 8
errant night
guys, please, need help. I have 2 small questions about raid build (I took it from wowhead's guide). the first one is: can I replace Arterial Precision with Tiny Toxic Blade? I think it should be more hasty and dynamic and I don't want to minmax here. and the second question is: if I remove improved garrote and use improved poisons, does it mean that there is now absolutely no reason to use vanish anymore?
tired gull
only outlaw has guns, but even that doesn't have an smg i think
grim jay
only outlaw has guns, but even that doesn't have an smg i think
I stopped myself and you just went for it
tired gull
guys, please, need help. I have 2 small questions about raid build (I took it fr...
For a minor optimization, you can use vanish -> ambush in your opener after you get your first DN, so your next envenom will be BIG and consume 1 stack of mark
waxen oyster
wdym bad
short ledge
is assa the best specs for the raid ?
tired gull
is assa the best specs for the raid ?
we don't know yet ¯_(ツ)_/¯
waxen oyster
if you drop to 10% hp she attempts to bonk you really hard
strong wing
Is there any sheets to see how much does tier set upgrades?
robust axle
Is there any sheets to see how much does tier set upgrades?
4.5%ish for 4set
terse orchid
is assa the best specs for the raid ?
Always. Nothing else is fun
grand light
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
tired gull
servers up
worn badger
if you drop to 10% hp she attempts to bonk you really hard
thats what i was wondering about. how bad is the bonk, are "pug" healers going to be able to keep up with it ?
waxen oyster
does like 2mil if i recall
errant night
For a minor optimization, you can use vanish -> ambush in your opener after you ...
thank you. so maybe I should even remove garrote from my stealth action bar? and what about tiny toxic blade?
tired gull
the bonk just kills you, so you just need to be above 10%
nova aspen
servers up
actually or meme?
somber nimbus
they are , in logging screen
tired gull
actually or meme?
they're online, i can't get in yet though
nova aspen
ok
tired gull
just at loading screen
waxen oyster
unironically i would consider
the execute the least problematic
of all of kyveza’s mechanics
vivid crown
i'm on tich, not a meme, in dornogal now
tired gull
zzzzzzz
worn badger
same lol
haughty flicker
its not looking good
tired gull
i'm doing my part to aid in the server destruction
grim jay
thanks for beta testing murricans
somber nimbus
rule 101, never raid on Tuesday
lethal lintel
severs up
worn badger
im unemployed at the moment =/
strong wing
4.5%ish for 4set
Where did u see it
tired gull
cmon i'm ready to party
novel star
4.5%ish for 4set
where did you get this number
worn badger
sparkle void rogue ?
vivid crown
are we supposed to be able to catalyst something today?
waxen oyster
oof
tired gull
set bonus numbers for everything https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit?gid=1489780415#gid=1489780415
royal lantern
where did you get this number
waxen oyster
yes catalyst today
vivid crown
aight
novel star
https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819
was thinking this i’m ngl lmfao
i remember looking at the sheet and seeing definitely not 4.5
tired gull
aotc token
explain?
worn badger
im in!
tired gull
we goin' spelunkin
robust axle
where did you get this number
Looked one column up whoops
novel star
all good
royal lantern
explain?
when you get curve or 2,5k m+ score, you get a free heroic level tier token
like we had trought DF allready
spice spire
Login NA homies
novel star
i want to sleep man
spice spire
Too late
novel star
but i fucking cant
spice spire
LOGIN
novel star
same shit every day …
slate crown
But I’m at work today
waxen oyster
its aotc 2.5k m+ or 1600 pvp
tired gull
i'm TRYING quake, i'm TRYING
spice spire
But I’m at work today
Same
waxen oyster
1600 pvp is the easiest lmao
spice spire
Until 6:30 too
slate crown
Help me homie @spice spire
grim jay
the earlier you guys log in the more beta testing you can do for us EU people
slate crown
slate crown
Whatchu need
Nothing else you gave me all I need 
spice spire
Damn I’m so good at being generically helpful 
waxen oyster
quake giving the IT guy meme advice
novel star
he aight
waxen oyster
of turn it off and on
marble hemlock
Buddy I’m tryna turn on all the homies
you turn me on for sure
spice spire
Brother?
marble hemlock
im just supporting you in your endeavor to turn on all the homies
wow
thought youd be thankful
marble hemlock
its cute but
royal lantern
ye its ok
spice spire
marble hemlock
<:gooseBUH:1281597557205766254>
why does it say goose when its a cat?
royal lantern
allready thought "yeha, thats gonna be removed" when posting tbh 
spice spire
The cat’s name is goose
tired gull
royal lantern
yeha, dont do that
tired gull
obv
royal lantern
like, atleast use it on heroic level items
faint path
Any rogue streamer?
somber nimbus
so mythic dungeons arent working right now
are M0s not supposed to be playable till next week?
spice surge
Any rogue streamer?
Exile
faint path
They said they will open m0 this week
fathom cove
If Blindside procs during opener, should I continue sequence or use the proc?
spice surge
Ye they probably will open it soon
celest helm
Buddy I’m tryna turn on all the homies
Wym
spice surge
You cant avoid using it, but yes you just use it
celest helm
Wyd
raven panther
when does the saison start in euw ? 6am or somethign ?
novel star
If Blindside procs during opener, should I continue sequence or use the proc?
blindside only procs when you press ambush or mutilate so it’s not possible to waste a proc or something
you just play like normal and sometimes the builder is free instead of 50 energy
don’t overthink it
spice spire
We should like play together or something UwU
I’m not tryna make ur gf jealous king but sure I’m down to get my ass eaten, I mean handed to me whenever.
haughty lantern
the ring be doing numbers
uneven plume
has anyone tried M0?
tired gull
no world boss loot feels bad
uneven plume
is it as face roll as heroics?
royal lantern
the ring be doing numbers <:PogO:1160145144872435792>
what are you comparing it with
haughty lantern
just my current gear
arctic socket
the ring be doing numbers <:PogO:1160145144872435792>
My guilds rl did a doc for us to “vote” what we wanted the most… that ring is sexy I NEED it
uneven plume
shouldnt it be live already
spice surge
Keyword should
arctic socket
Not a single change 😦
novel star
give it a little you’ll be fine
novel star
bro i’m gonna be honest w u
+15s were faceroll
and this is equivalent to a 10
lol
covert schooner
what are we benefiting from casting thistle during Improved shiv
covert schooner
okay tty
novel star
but mostly energy
you only shiv for kingsbane and kingsbane suffers hard if your envenom drops
novel star
yea
faint path
Any live rogue streamer from NA
kindred wind
what is the difference between fatebound and deathstalker in m+?
dps wise
leveled as fatebound but willing to pick up DS if it is that much better
primarily a M+ player
waxen oyster
like 2-3%
kindred wind
oh, that's not much at all lol
waxen oyster
because rogue trees suck
kindred wind
lol
nova aspen
fatebound leads in pad aoe, deathstalker leads in prio
kindred wind
unlucky
strange python
whats the spark quest?
kindred wind
okay, so sticking with FB since it seems to be easier to play and doesn't require stealth as much
which is tough when the tank is chain pulling
novel star
fatebound requires more stealth because we use imp garrote in ST raid talents and deathstalker does not
it’s the opposite
novel star
you never actually want to apply your mark with ambush except when you need to
which is ideally one time per boss or dungeon at the start lol
abstract needle
whats a good combat text addon that doesnt float the whole screen? im blind when the pull is big
haughty lantern
so....in world content, i've never had anything really survive long enough to test this, so i'm here trying to get clarification
after we apply DS mark the first time with ambush, for a boss like Sikran (who is apparently entirely ST) after you consume the 3 stacks of it, you proc DN and can LITERALLY reapply the debuff with a full dump envenom no? and then keep the ball rolling?
steep rover
Yes
novel star
yes thats LITERALLY what the talent says
haughty lantern
so then you would use vanish to reapply imp garrote, rather than use vanish to apply ambush again
novel star
we do LITERALLY that to keep mark on
haughty lantern
yes thats LITERALLY what the talent says
I'M SORRY I'M AT SCHOOL AND MY BRAIN IS MADE OF SWISS CHEESE, THE KNOWLEDGE FALLS OUT
novel star
so then you would use vanish to reapply imp garrote, rather than use vanish to a...
yes if you have it
steep rover
The fact that echoing reprimand doesn’t work with deathstalker capstone grinds my gears
😦
abstract needle
any one is using any combat text addons? feels like im blind when i do all the posion stuff
grim jay
any one is using any combat text addons? feels like im blind when i do all the p...
mikscrollingbattletext
candid saffron
do you thistle tea in burst 2 times to upkeep the mastery buff ?
somber nimbus
with delves should I try to get tier 8 regular delve before trying bountiful delves, wouldn't the completed tier 4 delve lock me out for the rest of the day?
haughty lantern
it’s like 0.2% worse i think whispyr said
note to self, double check talent builds and readjust before raid...
novel star
do you thistle tea in burst 2 times to upkeep the mastery buff ?
no u press it for energy now
cus kingsbane nerf or whatever
steep rover
with delves should I try to get tier 8 regular delve before trying bountiful del...
Level non bountiful delves to 8, then do bountiful
novel star
like, energy during cds
ruby oyster
st build from wowhead has arterial precision and no tiny toxic, tiny toxic sims 0,2% higher for me tho, can i just take it for better gameplay? or im missing something (this is for pure st)
candid saffron
no u press it for energy now
do u know why though ? bcs shouldnt mastery tehcnically be more dmg ? with all our dots up? thanks for answering btw
grim jay
st build from wowhead has arterial precision and no tiny toxic, tiny toxic sims ...
reading what the guide says above the raid build might answer your question
novel star
it is more damage which is why u only press it during shiv but it’s not worth cucking future energy over
is i think the idea
worn badger
!wax
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spice spire
it is more damage which is why u only press it during shiv but it’s not worth cu...
More energy = more finishers, more finishers = more damage
novel star
yea
arctic socket
Hey quake
spice spire
Hello
arctic socket
Wanna log review my heroic?
arctic socket
Bro knew
grim jay
whaaaaaaaaaaaat
spice spire
But I’m hard capping this tier
grim jay
quake is back
arctic socket
Probably will get someone look at the actual heroic one
grim jay
on the revs
cloud pike
Hey guys I'm new here. I'm choosing between Arcane Mage and Ass Rogue. I really liked Ass Rogue in MoP back in the day and it's fulfilled a fantasy for me, but honestly I'm too old nowadays to do a high APM spec. Just wondering is Ass Rogue a good fit for me or no?
I looked at the rotation and it looks daunting, lots of buttons
novel star
sin is very slow in st
arctic socket
Sin good
spice spire
It’s less daunting once you understand
ruby oyster
reading what the guide says above the raid build might answer your question
well that didnt mention Arterial Precision which is why i asked, its hard to keep up with all changes when new exp is released
cloud pike
I did play Arcane in Dragonflight, but honestly it was way too many buttons back then and it made me not able to focus on mechanics
novel star
literally cant spam even if u wanted to because energy
arctic socket
“Builds to 7cp” waits 4 seconds repeat kek
cobalt sphinx
Hey guys I'm new here. I'm choosing between Arcane Mage and Ass Rogue. I really ...
i don't think these are great picks if you are boomed out, play frost mage
spice spire
There’s definitely a mental load to be had
cloud pike
@cobalt sphinx I'm familiar with Arcane (deep dove into it in Dragonflight) and honestly I like the fantasy way more than frost
spice spire
Even on waiting
royal lantern
!wa
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novel star
sin has a lot to think about yea mostly on aoe tho
novel star
single target is kinda not that complicated
cobalt sphinx
i heard arcane you can fumble and lose all your damage
spice spire
I enjoy it a bit
strange python
am i supposed to be doing delves today?
arctic socket
Unlock tier 8
cloud pike
I've heard a lot of bad things about Rogue hero talents and it being ignored by Blizz, and it's making me lean towards Arcane
novel star
tier 8s yes
spice spire
am i supposed to be doing delves today?
You’re supposed to do whatever you want. But delves are a good gearing loop
Get to 8
Run 4 bountiful
Go tomorrow
strange python
ok will get to 8
novel star
use your coffer keys only on tier 8 bountiful
which i don’t think you can play today
delicate trench
is there any rogue streaming on the raid please ?
violet berry
do up to tier 8 on alt
Why an alt?
Don’t you just do regular delves until 8 and then bountiful after?
novel star
that’s what i assumed too but ppl are saying otherwise so i kinda just went w the wave
violet berry
Ya I think you good
spice spire
that’s what i assumed too but ppl are saying otherwise so i kinda just went w th...
Follower smh
novel star
Follower smh
i’d rather be a dick than a swallower
novel star
i mean i won’t be sad if kanye dies to this whole nitrous thing
but he still had an insane career
pre jik
cant deny it
the goat
grim jay
kanye is the one guy I never even close to understood the hype around
arctic socket
Who’s in pa-
sullen bronze
!fuu
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arctic socket
Friends in you
spice spire
arctic socket
topaz nymph
!wa
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arctic socket
Bro ruined it
topaz nymph
U welcome
cobalt tangle
fatest envem i could do, it's going higher for you guys?
without flasks and food on dummie, consums are expensive as fuck 😂
tired gull
fatest envem i could do, it's going higher for you guys?
had a 2.8 couple days ago
errant night
1.2 mil. 1 second before it was smth like 1.4 mil for a few seconds. such an RNG
waxen oyster
apparently its a risk if you get a delvers bounty in a non t8
spice spire
haughty lantern
my highest was a 1.9 in my world content build
arctic socket
Potted
haughty lantern
so proud of that 😄
errant night
fatest envem i could do, it's going higher for you guys?
i just had 2.547 with flasks etc
arctic socket
And wep buffed up
distant plinth
Which class is topping in the raids rn!?
novel star
bro
haughty lantern
bRo iS aNSuReK dEAd YeT
novel star
u know what the raid is out actually nvm that question is more valid now
i don’t think i would say valid but more valid
spice spire
You wouldn’t bottom a raid
novel star
You wouldn’t bottom a raid
oh i would
haughty flicker
cobalt sphinx
Which class is topping in the raids rn!?
normal mist
1.2 mil. 1 second before it was smth like 1.4 mil for a few seconds. such an RNG
isnt that pretty much the opener?
cobalt sphinx
log in
novel star
oh i would
have you seen wrathion bro
spice spire
oh i would
Wrong chat lil bro #subtlety is this way
novel star
ew sub
runic hinge
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errant night
isnt that pretty much the opener?
yeah I know, it's just that I see such numbers first time
normal mist
Those numbers aren't important honestly, the overall over the full lenght of the fight is
errant night
that's why I said about RNG. sometimes it's smth like 800k, sometimes 1mil. and this 1.4 happened only now once
errant night
Those numbers aren't important honestly, the overall over the full lenght of the...
i know
normal mist
but yeah if you're managing to do your rotation/opener properly thats awesome
cursive frost
Sac or spyglass to go with the GB on use?
distant plinth
Bye rogue rerolling
cobalt sphinx
1.2 mil. 1 second before it was smth like 1.4 mil for a few seconds. such an RNG
if you ambush for 200k, that's technically 6m dps in the first server tick
small wagon
im trying to find it, but somehow i cant, how different (dps wise) are the fatebound and deathstalker build, like, raid wise?
cobalt sphinx
so you can count that
haughty lantern
I'll personally use spyglass and GB
GB?
cobalt sphinx
gb is probably skardyns
normal mist
Grimbatol trinket
haughty lantern
according to my sims i'm going egg + skardyn
cursive frost
Yeah skardyns
haughty lantern
Yeah im not even simming
but i'm stimming
cobalt sphinx
egg doesn't sim that great in my experience
although it'll matter more when i get it
haste sims like dog in aoe too
haughty lantern
egg doesn't sim that great in my experience
it simmed better than spyglass for me at least*
(i wasn't around when spyglass was our meta, does it only excel in ST?)
cursive frost
Good news is both are farmable
silk bane
haughty lantern
idk how spyglass works
normal mist
it simmed better than spyglass for me at least*
(i wasn't around when spyglass ...
I really like crit
novel star
haughty lantern
well no i kind of know how it works
spice spire
idk how spyglass works
You hit things they get marked, you get crit
cobalt sphinx
haste is like 40% worse than crit and mastery on 5t on the one sim i ran
spice spire
cobalt sphinx
pretty bad vibes
haughty lantern
i mean i know what it does but i've never played around with it
so idk how viable it is in aoe
normal mist
You dont really play around it, you just zugzug
haughty lantern
novel star
so idk how viable it is in aoe
wouldn’t change anything
ur always smacking one main target cause of caustic anyway
novel star
grim jay
ur always smacking one main target cause of caustic anyway
I wish it would be good enough for m+ that I could use it over ara ara
dont like those eggs spawning on my char
spice spire
I wish it would be good enough for m+ that I could use it over ara ara
lil bro ur too old for this
Log out dog
haughty lantern
TIME TO NYOOM HOME
novel star
tegerende
haughty lantern
IM GONNA STEP ON THE GAS
cold glen
Hi guys I'm new player practicing assa rogue single target. I read both icy / wow-head and they have different talent builds. Which one shoud I pick?
waxen oyster
It's actually impressive how much people overthink gear.
novel star
Hi guys I'm new player practicing assa rogue single target. I read both icy / wo...
wowhead will be more up to date as our lead theorycrafter also writes the guide there
normal mist
Hi guys I'm new player practicing assa rogue single target. I read both icy / wo...
For safety, choose wowhead
spice spire
Hi guys I'm new player practicing assa rogue single target. I read both icy / wo...
Whichever is better for you.
Wowhead has 4 builds on that page - so then it goes to “do I fatebound or deathstalker”
waxen oyster
Also it looks like both improved garrote talents got dropped for st
for dashing
and imp poisons?
spice spire
Remember to go to the talent page of wh
novel star
or some shit
spice spire
and imp poisons?
Yes
novel star
looking at boss mechanics more last day or two
me too (pineapple game)
waxen oyster
and snuck in bee trink in case it didnt get nerfed on alts
oh right the pineapple game
novel star
it’s so fire
arctic socket
Pineapple game?
novel star
iykyk
arctic socket
The raid mechanic pine apple game
novel star
silk imp
!fuu
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spice spire
Iykyk
white sandal
No way, i can just do the pineapple game and not train strats ? 😄
novel star
haven’t raided in a long while but i feel like the pineapple game must be lying to me
there’s no way bosses are really this simple on hc they all have like 3 mechanics
cold glen
If I use wowhead single target death stalker build, Is it ok not to use vanish? because there is no improved garrote.
tired gull
novel star
you vanish in the opener still i think but yes
novel star
candle…
white sandal
i think we vanish to secure the last proc of kingsbane to be a crit right ?
spice surge
No
white sandal
damn i been doing it all wrong
spice spire
Nah it’s also in guides
novel star
ig they just made a raid for babies (me)
waxen oyster
yeah only 6 7 and 8 really have mechanics
white sandal
hopefully mythic will be rough then
echo condor
s01 comes out in 11 hours and 10 mins from now, right ?
novel star
yeah only 6 7 and 8 really have mechanics
ready to get stuck on boss 1 because people don’t wanna fill his empty little belly
spice spire
s01 comes out in 11 hours and 10 mins from now, right ?
If you’re EU
echo condor
If you’re EU
I am indeed
spice spire
For NA it’s out
novel star
season 1 starts in a week with mythic right?
spice spire
spice spire
season 1 starts in a week with mythic right?
No it starts today
novel star
or is this week considered season
spice spire
This week you can get a vault
novel star
i see
spice spire
So it’s today
novel star
mhm
abstract needle
decent
white sandal
ready to get stuck on boss 1 because people don’t wanna fill his empty little be...
people have to parse, doing the strat is wrong 😄
novel star
but you cant even hurt him during that
white sandal
theres adds no ?
novel star
i guess yea
waxen oyster
parsing on heroic
white sandal
not for us assa rogues tho for sure in heroic
waxen oyster
you might be mentally ill ngl
white sandal
i suppose we'll be doing the feeding cuz we cannot damage things that have too little health 😢
strange python
is outlaw simming better for pure single now?
novel star
outlaw always sims better
white sandal
seems like it
normal mist
is outlaw simming better for pure single now?
always has been
for the last tiers
over the years
!best
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All Specs are good and have niches and strengths that they play to. All three specs are looking viable with Assassination/Subtlety being preferred in raids. Mythic+ meta has not solidified yet but Assassination looked promising during beta.
Be aware that Simulations are a tool to be used to compare things like talents/gear/rotations, they are not the definite answer to what is meta or not meta. While outlaw is ahead in sims right now, especially dungeonslice, you have to take a step back and realize these are synthetic/generic situations that we use as a baseline. Dungeonslice has always been a great showing for outlaw simply due to the fight style matching well with the spec. This is not unusual or unheard of.
You can view logs of the raid when it comes out Here, or view the mythic+ run leaderboard Here.
unique plume
I am so not feeling Plater the amount of options is overwhelming, can you recommend a nameplates addon that is simpler and more minimalist?
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spring aurora
What you guys playing for M0? Fatebound CB or Mark with ER?
spice spire
Mark
Enjoyer
novel star
i’m playing fatebound for everything cause ds isn’t fun
they’re so close in damage you can just pick preference
robust axle
Yea sims within 10k for me
late gulch
is fatebound behind the other hero tree by alot in keys?
quartz cloak
I am so not feeling Plater the amount of options is overwhelming, can you recomm...
If you like the default plates and just want to have some stuff like buffs or debuffs you like to show or hide, I can recommend betterblizzplates
novel star
is fatebound behind the other hero tree by alot in keys?
no
robust axle
Its not even behind
spring aurora
Are you guys siming dungeon slice?
late gulch
sweet thx 🙂
novel star
fatebound and ds sim within 2% of eachother for me
robust axle
Oh keys
hexed frost
We're hitting season start and DM+ER bug is still not fixed 🤣🤣🤣
novel star
it’s probably just some really bad spaghetti
spring aurora
They havnt even talked about it?
somber nimbus
are there portals to the non TWW dungeons?
hexed frost
I guess they really want us to play fatebound
novel star
They havnt even talked about it?
why would they do that
white sandal
at this point i'm not even sure it's a bug
novel star
blizz doesn’t put out known issues lists like that rly they only communicate after fixing
stone minnow
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stone minnow
Guys the latest whispyr plater doesn't show caustic on enemy name plates?
novel star
Guys the latest whispyr plater doesn't show caustic on enemy name plates?
it colours the health green
spice spire
The plates are colored different
hexed frost
Btw, do we really play around rapid injection?
kindred hinge
How does the M0 look like? They were supposed to be old +10 or is it just HC bis?
hexed frost
At this point it'll be just like HC 2.0
novel star
Btw, do we really play around rapid injection?
if you took the talent yeah
stone minnow
it colours the health green
don't you guys find it harder to track like that?
is it easy to rever it?
revert
novel star
don't you guys find it harder to track like that?
not really it’s the same mentality, looking for green
hexed frost
We have geared up so much that anything below +5 will look eaze imo
novel star
poisons were alresdy hidden so all u were looking for is Green
it’s prolly easy to take it out of the blacklist tho but i don’t remember where it is in settings and i’m in bedge
kindred hinge
Well +10 were not hard for people playing a minimum, i just dint want another week where i can't cd on trash
somber nimbus
so i am bit a bit confused since I havent played several tiers, are all TWW dungeons open on M0 or just the current seasonal ones? and are the non TWW open also in M0?
hexed frost
if you took the talent yeah
Is there a build that doesn't take it? In M+ atleast
novel star
in m+ you play around it without even trying
because you have infinite energy
lol
there is no thinking about when u press envenom in sin aoe
u just mash it
as fast as possible
which will naturally get rapid injection value
spring aurora
hmm i sim 13% more as DS + ER build than FB + CB
hexed frost
Yeah, it's just we no longer playing double shiv ap
hexed frost
hmm i sim 13% more as DS + ER build than FB + CB
That's assuming ER works 
novel star
hmm i sim 13% more as DS + ER build than FB + CB
i doubt this
spring aurora
i doubt this
can post PM if u want xD
novel star
even if your stats are insanely weird it shouldn’t be close to 13%
r u sure ur on the correct talents and shit lol
spring aurora
We sim dungeon slice, ye?
novel star
ya
spring aurora
110k more dps as DS
runic hinge
link sim
novel star
2 minutes?
novel star
ah ic
hollow gust
What’s the easiest delve to run?
desert cove
What’s the easiest delve to run?
The one near the bottom of azh kahet is super fast
Forget the name off the top
real pike
yo guys, I'm finding that sometimes when I go into my DM windows subsequent to the opening one, my DsM stacks are in an awkward place to do the ambush reset - should I make sure I'm pressing DM with a certain number of DsM stacks or just send DM when available consequences be damned?
open canyon
Guys, what do we cratft? daggers?
dawn pollen
dawnthread lining, are our best embelishment acording to sims however would you still use it for progression becasuse i don't think you would get that much value out of it in progression ?
novel horizon
So I seen a few people saying to level delves up to 8 on alts, any reason why?
naive crane
can we use dawnthread just 1x?
dawn pollen
can we use dawnthread just 1x?
i think 2x of dawnthread sim highest
naive crane
i got 2x but it just shows 1x crit bonus
inland escarp
So I seen a few people saying to level delves up to 8 on alts, any reason why?
I seen this on Reddit
crude anvil
did I just get cucked?
novel horizon
Yeah thats what I seen, but I'm not seeing a reason to do them on an alt ?
inland escarp
Because you can only get 3 drops per week, you’d want those maps at a higher level on main
novel horizon
Ohhh so do them on an alt and loot them on your main at higher levels?
runic hinge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dhP8y6uJj7N3SezLMjZ6LN
I'm 579 and the difference was 62k
spring aurora
Link?
limber lion
yo guys, I'm finding that sometimes when I go into my DM windows subsequent to t...
DSM and Deathmark have no real synergy
You just send Deathmark on cd
What ambush reset are you talking about?
silent drift
been using whyprs weak aura, style of afenar
anyone else notice it doens't track bleeds now?
real pike
What ambush reset are you talking about?
Vanishing within the window to ambush for the new DsM when you have DN up
limber lion
Vanishing within the window to ambush for the new DsM when you have DN up
You do not do that
You apply the Mark with DN
Not with Vanish
twilit flax
Not taking Imp Garrote in the single target build feels so weird. We don't need to Vanish at all if we're not taking it, correct?
limber lion
You use Vanish to reapply Improved Garrote
limber lion
Not taking Imp Garrote in the single target build feels so weird. We don't need ...
Correct
peak bobcat
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limber lion
anyone else notice it doens't track bleeds now?
wut
real pike
You use Vanish to reapply Improved Garrote
You Vanish to reapply DsM in the opener though
limber lion
You do not
real pike
so why wouldn't you in further DM windows
limber lion
You literally do not do that
robust axle
You do, and Whispyr confirmed
neon compass
got this trinket from a delve. Can't even use it...
robust axle
Yes
real pike
silent drift
@limber lion literally like 10 mins before, garrote/rupture would be tracked on the weak aura
tired gull
yes, if you don't run imp garrote, you vanish to ambush
robust axle
That Vanish Garrote is not Vanish Ambush
real pike
this one is slightly higher performing
silent drift
just disappeared lol, i even reinstalled it
normal mist
You literally do not do that
its in the wowhead
i was looking at it too
whispyr didnt go to bed today, he was cooking the whole night
limber lion
Alrigh
limber lion
<@165215952479322112> literally like 10 mins before, garrote/rupture would be tr...
Nothing has changed in the weakaura in 2 days though
tired gull
crit mastery delve boots boys
spice spire
W
limber lion
These are the latest changes
silent drift
yeah, im not sure lol, was shwoing before, i updated all cureforge addons, then rupture/garrote isn't tracked lol
twilit flax
i was looking at it too
This doesn't make sense. You don't need to Ambush but you need to Garrote and it's not listed
normal mist
If we ambush where it is marked we lose DN and go back to DsM
twilit flax
I get that
normal mist
depending if we hit blue CP or not
real pike
If we ambush where it is marked we lose DN and go back to DsM
even better, you get both
limber lion
I'm confused
normal mist
me too
limber lion
Why would you do that without Improved Garrote but not with it?
Why wouldn't you just do Ambush - Garrote with IG
twilit flax
but it doesn't list garrote after vanish but the whole point of vanishing with imp garrote is for imp garrote and garrote isn't listed
limber lion
but it doesn't list garrote after vanish but the whole point of vanishing with i...
The point is to not Garrote if you're not spec'd into Improved Garrote
normal mist
Why wouldn't you just do Ambush - Garrote with IG
I've no idea, i know whispyr was talking about it like 8 hours ago roughly
real pike
Why wouldn't you just do Ambush - Garrote with IG
I think the amount of GCDs you get before you need to reapply shiv but that is pure conjecture
twilit flax
The point is to not Garrote if you're not spec'd into Improved Garrote
I get that but that specific opener is for Imp Garrote
limber lion
I get that but that specific opener is for Imp Garrote
The one I linked literally shows Vanish into Garrote
And the one that doesn't take Improved Garrote is Vanish into Ambush
twilit flax
I'm regarded
real pike
LMAO my guy saw the without
limber lion
I mean
To be fair
It says "without improved garrote" but the vanish still says it activates it
So he's not entirely wrong
lol
real pike
yeah Whispyr must have just copied and pasted the lil Vanish imagine ig
limber lion
Yeh
spice spire
He did
real pike
it's also missing a Garotte
twilit flax
no, I totally missed the "Without" lol
spice spire
But easy to mistake
real pike
you're supposed to refresh Garotte somewhere in there but Whispyr missed it so assume it's getting fixed tomorrow
think he was a tired boi after a full nights cookin
naive crane
bot says we vanish into ambush/garr
limber lion
Yeah you would garrote when IG runs out
So pretty much right after that graphic ends
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real pike
correct
random fossil
we running coin man for raid or wat
real pike
think it lands on one of the mutis after the shiv
limber lion
we running coin man for raid or wat
Sure
twilit flax
we running coin man for raid or wat
I want to, since I'm old and lazy now
strange python
One message removed from a suspended account.
random fossil
when ER mark fix
abstract needle
made it minimalist as possible
limber lion
think it lands on one of the mutis after the shiv
Sure does, pandemics around the Envenom
runic hinge
I want to, since I'm old and lazy now
i just hate pressing mut on 6
limber lion
made it minimalist as possible
Action bars not hidden
So not minimalistic
Hide them and it's good
radiant raven
made it minimalist as possible
What's the big 0 for?
abstract needle
Hide them and it's good
i still dont remember it lol
real pike
but yeah so I assume you do the vanish > ambush thing in subsequent DM windows, but doing that along with keeping gar/rup up and playing around DsM/DN can make some of those suuuper janky
abstract needle
What's the big 0 for?
number of enemies in Fan of knives range
radiant raven
Ah, nice 🙂
real pike
if you go into the window with unfortunate timings/stacks
abstract needle
yea i find it usefull when its chaotic
undone flame
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abstract needle
What's it used for?
knowing estimated combo points given with fan of knives
arctic socket
made it minimalist as possible
How do you press that key you have crimson binded too
twilit flax
I'm def doing something wrong. trying to macro CB into Envenom but it doesn't use Envenom if CB is on cd
limber lion
knowing estimated combo points given with fan of knives
What good would that information be?
It's still tied to rng
spice spire
knowing estimated combo points given with fan of knives
Oh no 
spice spire
Man didn’t play with 50% crit just to have a 1cp fan and it shows
limber lion
I'm def doing something wrong. trying to macro CB into Envenom but it doesn't us...
Show macro
CB doesn't have gcd, Envenom does
abstract needle
Could have 10 targets or 1
i like it
limber lion
Pressing it once between gcd's won't use Envenom
arctic socket
Should Hve said the big 0 is got scent of blood tracking
Would have gotten away with it
abstract needle
i want the elvui square skillbar icons but i hate the ui it gives for everything else
twilit flax
Show macro
I was about to and then saw my mistake. I misspelled Envenom
arctic socket
I still wanna know how you press the colon key for crimson vial
limber lion
arctic socket
Long fingers?
jaunty warren
Recuperator appears to be bugged again…it runs then stops and I have not figured out the reasons why
rancid root
Is Deathstalker still not working as intended with ER?
limber lion
Y
rancid root
limber lion
cobalt sphinx
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peak bobcat
do we change any gameplay for fatebound?
limber lion
Not really
tired gull
crit mast delv cloak boys
glass fulcrum
do we change any gameplay for fatebound?
what for?
limber lion
Opener changes a bit to proc Double Jeopardy and you introduce CB to the mix
But that's about it
peak bobcat
like am i macroing CB to envenom
peak bobcat
cev i dont like that answer
rotund oak
real pike
if my rupture is running out as I consume my last DsM, do I:
a) go to 7cp to consume DN and drop Rup for a few seconds
b) refresh rup with low cp
c) this should never ever happen because it's possible to always plan ahead to avoid this (possibly refreshing rup before pandemic)?
glass fulcrum
cev i dont like that answer
but is true is not super optimal
limber lion
cev i dont like that answer
This is the opener right
So the first 2 Envenoms you wouldn't CB
So macroing it would waste it a bit
real pike
if my rupture is running out as I consume my last DsM, do I:
a) go to 7cp to con...
cause this is happening a fair amount to me on the dummy and I feel like I'm the dummy
urban trench
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limber lion
if my rupture is running out as I consume my last DsM, do I:
a) go to 7cp to con...
Kinda c) because Rupture's pandemic is 8s+ depending on combo points used
And 8s is plenty of time to plan around the mark and DN
real pike
ok thanks, more practice needed
wanton field
Hi everyone, i'm trying to set up my wishlist on Wowaudit for my guild, but it keeps saying that it "Could not find one of the items referenced in the report". I double triple quadruple checked and everything should work, it works for all my guildmates and friends, any info on this ? here's a screenshot with the error code
limber lion
Hi everyone, i'm trying to set up my wishlist on Wowaudit for my guild, but it k...
Might wanna ask in the Wowaudit discord for help then, we probs aren't of much help
But it says to paste the url, but that code doesn't look like an url to me
But I've never used that, so no clue if it just randomly shortens it or whatever
kindred panther
are the deathstalker sims with ER bugged or fixed at the moment?
cobalt sphinx
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limber lion
are the deathstalker sims with ER bugged or fixed at the moment?
Sims include the bug
real pike
You'll nail it in no time
aha you would not believe how much time I've spent on this dummy today
limber lion
Proud of you
wanton field
But I've never used that, so no clue if it just randomly shortens it or whatever
when i past the URL its just show the code
real pike
pity me and hate me for bringing disrepute to the class
limber lion
when i past the URL its just show the code
Fair enough
limber lion
no do not be proud
I'm proud of anyone who takes the time to practice and get better at the thing they wanna get better at instead of hitting their head on the wall for hours upon hours
haughty lantern
question, is the reason we don't take respunding clarity rn b/c the interaction with DN is bugged or whatever?
south lava
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
limber lion
Yes
haughty lantern
gotcha. so i assume once it's fixed we reallocate that point back into clarity/
limber lion
Yes
slow hatch
is there a reason to craft rune-branded bracers instead of the engineering bracers?
real pike
I just did a little 2.5 min log on a dummy if anyone is bored and anyone would not mind/actively enjoy telling me how I suck
Using the second buzzer trink was a big mistake, realised that when I did it
waxen oyster
is there a reason to craft rune-branded bracers instead of the engineering brace...
you can embellish it
engy bracers arent that good
grim jay
Cant you get the brezz without engi bracers now anyways
grim jay
Didnt they make it a consumable or something
real pike
fuck m+ers tbh
preach
runic hinge
They did make a consumable one
nocturne mortar
Is it safe to use one spark for a weapon ?
limber lion
Yeye
keen spruce
I just did a little 2.5 min log on a dummy if anyone is bored and anyone would n...
I quit in df s3 but I can do my best if you want bad feedback 
abstract needle
anyone have a normal elvui profile to share?
tired gull
rip another delve cloak
real pike
I quit in df s3 but I can do my best if you want bad feedback <:smile_dog:116885...
go for it, I need the abuse
keen spruce
go for it, I need the abuse
To be clear I don’t know how the class works anymore and anything I say is likely wrong or made up
real pike
just tell me I suck and you're guaranteed to be right
nocturne mortar
What crest do m0 drop ?
strong wing
How can i make mutilate swap to ambush there out of combat to apply mark? Just a macro with cast both?
keen spruce
just tell me I suck and you're guaranteed to be right
U can’t suck as much at rogue as @runic hinge does on toes
shy pecan
real pike
U can’t suck as much at rogue as <@221124352861667340> does on toes
there's always a bigger shitter
limber lion
How can i make mutilate swap to ambush there out of combat to apply mark? Just a...
Mutilate automatically changes to Ambush when you're in stealth
keen spruce
If I had to guess there’s extra mutilates in there in the first opener? But maybe that’s a hero talent thing?
limber lion
And you cannot use Ambush outside of Stealth
keen spruce
strong wing
Mutilate automatically changes to Ambush when you're in stealth
It doesnt if you are out of combat, at least for me, but i fixed it with a macro casting both with ambush first
limber lion
/cast [stance:0]Mutilate; Ambush
strong wing
ty
eager solstice
So what’s the verdict on embellishments?
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You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.
The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.
tired gull
limpid ermine
!fuu
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normal mist
Liquid made it seem that the last boss was really easy
keen spruce
How many people got suspended for the multi account thing? 
blissful spire
I got the bis dagger from raid today its veteran track, should i put some weathered crest into it or hold?
blissful spire
true im just going off the wowhead guide
normal mist
But yeah if you think you can get a champion one this week, don't upgrade that one
keen spruce
I got the bis dagger from raid today its veteran track, should i put some weathe...
Wowhead guide says dagger at mythic ilvl is bis
normal mist
if you dont, just go for it
blissful spire
oh
wanton spear
sullen kiln
Dn delve
blissful spire
Wowhead guide says dagger at mythic ilvl is bis <:smile_dog:1168858437678018630>
actually just checked it says blood kissed kukri is my best off hand dagger
at least for raid gear
limber lion
!bis
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BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. The recommendation is simply to get all your heroic gear to 580 and then craft 590 slots (wrist/belt/rings are good)
blissful spire
Gotcha
keen spruce
actually just checked it says blood kissed kukri is my best off hand dagger
What i meant was that any dagger at higher ilvl is better than a “bis list’ dagger
blissful spire
thx
gentle helm
oh neat you can use the catalyst with rep gear
blissful spire
i c i c
keen spruce
But to what royal said. If you won’t have an opportunity to get a better one this week
Then might as well upgrade ig?
I’m not sure about the crest meta
vital raft
hey dumb question, anyone else having energy issues in boss fights?
real pike
!pooling
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TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom
- For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
blissful spire
i actually do have energy issues in single target as well tbh
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
vital raft
im ooe for most the fight i feel and tank in dps
mortal elm
Just to clarify - i know we chain envenom's but is it still the same rule that during KB and DM windows we full send and don't chain? Aswell as we would still send our Animacharged CP if we land on it (Unless u have DN) then you build to 7 or, Do we always send the Anima charged CP if landed on.
keen spruce
Just to clarify - i know we chain envenom's but is it still the same rule that d...
During kb your dumping energy for the highest damage return
dawn pollen
dawnthread lining, are our best embelishment acording to sims however would you still use it for progression becasuse i don't think you would get that much value out of it in progression ?
fallow sonnet
is there a secondary cheaper version enchant for a dagger other than the authority enchants that arent like 30k
mortal elm
Just build to 7 with DN
Would this be the case if we landed on the Animacharged? That we would ignore it and still go to 7 during DN?
limber lion
Would this be the case if we landed on the Animacharged? That we would ignore it...
Yes
If you have DN, you just go for it instantly
limber lion
You will land on the animacharged CP later on
spring aurora
Simmed me on 3 patchwrk to check ability log. Why do raidbots to 2 garrote, then rupture, CT and 2 garrote again?
why spam garrote? is it for the uptime?
limber lion
You're not in a rush to use the animacharged cp
You've got 45s after ER to do that
Plenty of time
even if you have to ignore it once
storm hedge
Can anyone confirm if the delve maps drop only from bountiful or from non-bountiful delves as well?
strong wing
!fuu
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mortal elm
Can anyone confirm if the delve maps drop only from bountiful or from non-bounti...
Bountiful
keen furnace
so wowhead says crit/mast for stat prio on assass but is there some % of haste we should reach before going all out in those stats?
storm hedge
so wowhead says crit/mast for stat prio on assass but is there some % of haste w...
secondaries are close so if you have a lot of crit/mastery, haste/vers will be much better.
keen furnace
ok thanks good to know
keen spruce
Stats aren’t real
storm hedge
Stats aren’t real
this also
normal mist
so wowhead says crit/mast for stat prio on assass but is there some % of haste w...
Wowhead says that if you want a quick reference to stats, Crit >= mastery > haste > vers
BUT
thorn fjord
Deathstalker sucks
normal mist
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
thorn fjord
What a shit hero tree lol
rugged oyster
!energy
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
robust axle
Deathstalker sucks
Shame it does the most damage
thorn fjord
Yeah its annoying
keen spruce
thorn fjord
Any stupid little thing knocks you out of stealth and its haha sucks to be you
vale shore
then it does NOT, in fact, do the most damage
haughty lantern
so some of my guilds are saying that tier 8 delves are kicking their asses
remind me, does tier 7 also drop vet track from bountiful caches?
thorn fjord
You playing Sub today? @dark token
somber nimbus
necrotic wake doesnt seem pug friendly
runic hinge
Deathstalker sucks
It really is not fun to play around
runic hinge
I’m probably a coin gamer
thorn fjord
yeah I doubt they change the way it plays and possibly just buff subterfuge somehow so we're inclined to take
thorn fjord
Yeah NW was cheese
safe shale
Seems outlaw logs are kinda nuts atm
runic hinge
yeah I doubt they change the way it plays and possibly just buff subterfuge some...
They bake night stalker into it so we’re back to snapshotting
waxen oyster
Was probably the most free key
severe sparrow
Did people forget the 3rd boss mechanics?
I think it's the 3rd
The chain grabby man
Oh wait
wrong dungeon
waxen oyster
No that's NW
urban cape
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's 11.0 Group
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Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
visual coyote
Did any NA guys check if the new crafted pvp gear is baseline 610 ilvl?
honest pelican
wheres the new portal area to ge to mists/necrotic/etc
jaunty basin
out of those WA and plater what does everyone use more ?
keen spruce
All personal preference
acoustic roost
Personal preference
keen spruce
Just try them all and see what you like best
honest pelican
found it nm
royal lantern
Just try them all and see what you like best
i like you 
dense anvil
Can you run a map piece on a non-bountiful tier 8 and it still drops 610 gear? I got a map on my 4th bountiful and was going to run it before raid instead of waiting for tomorrow
keen spruce
i like you <:feelsloveman:587982296519278593>
earnest timber
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater
earnest timber
is afenar going to update his wa?
robust axle
no
storm marsh
@balmy condor how do you get the counter in your left corner? That it counts the amount of rupture done. and how do you make it to reset?
earnest timber
ionic ingot
mana oil or whetstone?
robust axle
He aint topping anything
spice spire
mana oil or whetstone?
!wax
prisma monolithBOT
Bubbling Wax is roughly on par with whetstones and are free. Some caveats:
- Right now having wax applied to your offhand does nothing. Make sure you apply wax first, then apply your whetstone
- The quickest way to farm for wax is pickpocketing the kobolds in front of darkflame cleft
- If you have no idea what any of this is, you need to start the questline with "Brax's Brass Knuckles", then walk into the inn and talk to the vent to start "Go Take Candle". Once you complete the short questline, you can pickpocket wax from the kobolds
cerulean nest
so wax to main?
spice spire
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> how do you get the counter in your left corner? That it c...
That’s a weakaura tracking my gcds
rich parrot
what is the best class for raid ?
faint path
Okay we'll play sub in raid ı GUESS
orchid cedar
?
waxen oyster
what is the best class for raid ?
arcane mage