assassination

[grim jay]

I never really had issues with any Audi, so far I'm probably at 1.4k in repairs total over the last 5 or 6 years.
I personally probably like Mercedes the least of the 3. Engines aside, their reputation isnt good anymore. I dont really care for reliability reputation that much tho, its always either hit or miss. Only brands I see myself opening are Audi, Porsche, Jaguar and unreasonably if I win the lottery, Aston Martin.

Depends

For something useless it aint

[rotund oak]

btw isnt audi using VW engines?Its practically a VW with some makeup bro

[woven shore]

boys

a have something that may be interest to see

im inside my dragon

[royal lantern]

HUH???

[woven shore]

[royal lantern]

im sitting at 570k lol

[royal lantern]

god i wish that was me

[rotund oak]

[woven shore]

its an item that CANT be dropped but from god rng probably

[normal mist]

It was me. 59 k for 600k

[terse orchid]

Sir, this is not that kind of discord channel

[woven shore]

but im literally

[royal lantern]

????????

sir this is #assassination

[distant plover]

messages like that are only allowed in #subtlety

[clever sapphire]

does sub even press bp in aoe anymore? dont they have bladefury aswell now

[woven shore]

[royal lantern]

the dust change KINDA killed trickster

[grim jay]

the 3.0 ltr engines and up are Audi engines, also many of the parts of S and RS models are Audi, just not the generic ones. But by that logic, Lamborghini is an VW or an Audi with make up aswell, same as Bentley and other big brands

Same with BMW and rolls royce btw

[clever sapphire]

ah okay, i dont know my sub stuff

but also if it works on every finisher why isnt it a passive

[royal lantern]

dont ask me

many weird changes

more comming

[midnight mist]

thye changed dust ?

[royal lantern]

its gone in 10.0.5

[woven shore]

how do you call this Strategy where the army hide inside an animal and then came out at night and killed a city?

[clever sapphire]

11

[lunar pond]

Trojan

[clever sapphire]

my man still in DF

[woven shore]

tx sir

[royal lantern]

11.0.05

[midnight mist]

[royal lantern]

uk what i mean

nerd

[ashen rover]

Is that the actual name of the item? I can't find it

[terse orchid]

furry shit

[midnight mist]

[woven shore]

im a fuckking trojan dragon mfker

[royal lantern]

zac understood me

[clever sapphire]

so did i

[midnight mist]

no i didnt

[woven shore]

gonna slaughter the raid

[clever sapphire]

but you are in the assa channel, gotta nitpick on every mistake

[midnight mist]

i would hav e never understood if that murlock guy didnt correct you

[rotund oak]

no its somewhatt different but if u go ont eh vendor u will see the dust bag

[royal lantern]

le dust gets le deleted in 11.0.5

[midnight mist]

ah i see

i get it now

[royal lantern]

🥖

[terse orchid]

ashes to ashes, dust to dust

[ashen rover]

Ah alright! And where is it?

[arctic socket]

Fuu seemed pretty happy with the changes

[rotund oak]

artisan consortium..

[ashen rover]

Alrighttt thank you

[clever sapphire]

about as happy as outlaw without acro

[austere zodiac]

Hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask questions. I am a returning player that hasn't played retail seriously since like MoP/Legion.

I have engineering and was wondering if I should be making my epic wrists now or be holding off? I have heard mixed opinions. Will I be wasting my spark if I make them now?

[terse orchid]

dont use your spark yet

[clever sapphire]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.

The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.

[terse orchid]

well they're getting that back right?

[rotund oak]

pretty much,i wouldnt rly say anything is audi anymore,years now

[ashen rover]

I didn't really pay attention to the recipes there cause I'm acuity poor

[woven shore]

LOL i cant ride

[lunar pond]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/mobilebasic

[woven shore]

i have to play trojan horse

[winter cobalt]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[woven shore]

thats badass

[clever sapphire]

dunno, dont pay attention to outlaw stuff

[woven shore]

Thats the new Stealth
ship it boys

[grim jay]

Well actually the opposite happened. Most of the Lamborghini parts are Audi and most of the Audis have their own parts. In my S model, ive only seen 3 VW parts in total and nothing is performance related. Sure, in the A/Q models you still have many VW parts, but thats not necessarily a bad thing either, depending on which. Just like it isnt necessarily a bad thing that Lamborghini does use Audi parts, can even take advantage of that. Quality-wise Audi is still miles ahead of merc and BMW.

What actually is an issue is that the taycan is literally a etron gt with different looks. Same platform, same engine, everything, but like 70k more bcs its a Porsche

[grim jay]

Wtf is happening there

[woven shore]

idk my whole game didnt work

[grim jay]

Looks like the Dragon is giving birth

[woven shore]

from abilitys to dismounting

XDDDDDDD

[grim jay]

Is that the dracthyr race change animation?

[woven shore]

im stuck in her ass

HAHAHHAHA

[subtle tundra]

MAN

[woven shore]

class change

to rogue

[subtle tundra]

IT SHOULDVE BEEN ME

[woven shore]

[subtle tundra]

I WANT THAT

[woven shore]

Leak

from dracthyr able to play other classes

[subtle tundra]

i want in that ASS

please man please please please

[woven shore]

nah

Rog previlige

[dusky token]

I love Monday mornings sin chat

[woven shore]

[crisp pine]

I really need to stop looking at this server

[woven shore]

XDDDDDD

i bathed my Daggers in Dragon poop

new dot

okay sorry too far Xd

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/should-have-been-me-crying-sad-angry-gif-15937588

[rapid sable]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-what-fbi-chris-redd-alex-moffat-gif-11784633

[tawny pawn]

For raid what you guys will be running

FB or DS

give me opinions

[radiant raven]

Trickster.

Probably DS though as Assa. I find it more fun than coinflipping

[tired gull]

Ds for fights where we don’t need to save vanish to reapply due to any phase shenans

[rapid sable]

I tried FB and it felt pretty energy starved. I am going to try both since we are just running normal first couple of weeks.

[tawny pawn]

on dummies i performed better with DS.

[twin jay]

Has anyone goy higher than 585 ilevel?

[spice surge]

Plenty of people do

[tawny pawn]

ye you should be 592+ pretty easily

[spice surge]

But it also doesnt really matter

[haughty flicker]

im exactly 585 actually

[twin jay]

But 585 has used all my crests, which seem to be capped

[tawny pawn]

it really doesnt

[haughty flicker]

bc im too lazy to craft

[twin jay]

I haven't crafted anything

[forest nacelle]

i just hit 588 😄

[spice surge]

Ye crafting with the crests gets you higher ilvl than upgrading with them

[haughty flicker]

im not stepping into heroic raid first thing tuesday morning so dont care enough to craft

[spice surge]

But again, it doesnt really matter

[tawny pawn]

if you capped, and crafted a spark you are most likely 588

[radiant raven]

586. 

[twin jay]

Ah, because crafted gear doesn't need crests, right?

[haughty flicker]

fuck now i need to craft

[radiant raven]

A 590 crafted piece needs 15, which can be cheaper than upgrading an item to 590.

[spice surge]

30*

[radiant raven]

Duh, 30. Sorry.

[tawny pawn]

30 crafted 60 without crafting

i feel like M0 is useless

[radiant raven]

It's a more efficient way to do it, ye. However, like Eleem said it doesn't really matter.

We're gonan be getting 593 from M0 on Tues / Weds.

[nova aspen]

603 from delving and world boss

[haughty flicker]

t8 delves op

cant wait to get the same slot in all like 15 or whatever

[quiet oar]

Ongod

[normal kindle]

Are Level 8 Delve soloable in ROgue at 590 ilvl ?

[quiet oar]

Prolly

just cc stuff

[normal kindle]

cause boss hit pretty hard

[haughty flicker]

you can ignore 90% of it so probably

[tawny pawn]

ive seen a video of a 600 warrior not being able to finish it.

so.

I would do with a party.

[haughty flicker]

ye you can also scam a tank

[subtle tundra]

what if skrill issue

[nova aspen]

ive got tank and heals lined up to blast

[haughty flicker]

but i think that 600 war was jus tbad

[subtle tundra]

what if im just... better

[normal kindle]

yep better to do it in a party with a healer and tank

[woven shore]

guys

send me mouseover macro

[haughty flicker]

im playing hunter anyway so i bring my own tank

ez

[tawny pawn]

it can be skill issue, but, what is best is best, and the best is to do with a group.

[prime cairn]

imagine the player retention if people can't clear tier 8 tho

[subtle tundra]

my brother in christ
google
wow mouseover macro

open first link, copy that and replace the spell

[woven shore]

[subtle tundra]

holy moly

[nova aspen]

u can farm tier 7 delves also

rewards same track of gear

[woven shore]

i think +8 gives highest gear

[nova aspen]

just doesnt save u on upgrades later

[subtle tundra]

you dont care about delves normal gear, you want bountiful delve

highest ilvl

[subtle tundra]

thats literally 6 ilvl diff

[nova aspen]

obviously u want t8+

im just saying if u cant do t8 u could do t7

and still get same track gear

[subtle tundra]

sure if youre omega casual

and dont care

but thats a pretty meaningful amount

if you care about performance any bit you wont waste on t7 anything

[woven shore]

i think its not worth it

from what ive read people recommend finding a tank

or a healer

1 dps 1 healer is enough

and people cleared tier 8 with 582 ilvl and lv 15 this ugly mofoger with the gun

[subtle tundra]

ill take it as a skill check
i want the solo content to be difficult

[woven shore]

on beta ofc

[nova aspen]

i know its not worth it, thats not my point

[woven shore]

i know what you mean dude

as long as the endboss of +8 dont have over 50million life i think im okay xD

[nova aspen]

its a 100% chance to get a 603 item from the key chest right? so this will definitely take priority over m0 world tour

[woven shore]

my opener does 42,000,000 dmg

hope thats enough

[subtle tundra]

42,000,000 dmg?!??!?!

exactly?

[nova aspen]

world boss kill -> delving till out of keys -> m0's till raid

[worldly sail]

mine does 42,000,001

[subtle tundra]

have you ever done 43,000,000???

[woven shore]

XDDDDDDD

fucking rogue players

[subtle tundra]

well just say 42mil like a normal person

42m

42kk

LOL

[worldly sail]

you can only use 4 keys a day

[haughty flicker]

ye

[woven shore]

the zeros make it sound more

[nova aspen]

poop

[woven shore]

[haughty flicker]

you need to progress up to t8 though

and make sure not to enter a bountiful delve until you're at t8 or its gonezo for the day

[worldly sail]

make big gold by selling delve tier boosts in trade chat on reset

[haughty flicker]

you know for a fact tanks/healers are gonna try that shit

[quiet oar]

Service chat

you mean

[worldly sail]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

aint no way anyone is using service chat

[nova aspen]

[haughty flicker]

just bots advertising to bots

lmao

[quiet oar]

They already selling

[worldly sail]

thats not service chat

thats discord

[radiant raven]

I love services chat because it goes so insanely fast nobody can use it

[subtle tundra]

150k??? for piss shit delve?

gahdamn

[quiet oar]

i know

[radiant raven]

Never underestimate what people will spend gold on.

[subtle tundra]

well yea but tier 8 delve might go for like 1mil on wednesday

wtf

[worldly sail]

[radiant raven]

150k for a tier 1 delve. Basically paying someone to be Brann for you

[quiet oar]

Brann?

Brann is fucking useless

wdym

[nova aspen]

can we delve with up to 5 ppl? or is it 4 + brann?

[quiet oar]

i thik delves is maximum of 3?

[manic pebble]

Do people actually buy that service??

[radiant raven]

If you pay me 150k I will log on Bránn and be useful

[slow forge]

yo for wep enchants what are u guys doing since theres a bis for each minigame

[quiet oar]

idk

[manic pebble]

It’s not that hard to solo delve 1-3

lmao

[spice surge]

For tier 3 delves no

[bitter saddle]

Maximum is 5

[spice surge]

For tier 8 absolutely people will

[bitter saddle]

But below 5 everyone has their own Brann

[radiant raven]

A fate worse than death. A brann for all.

[storm stone]

If you do bountiful delve in a group everyone can open the chest right?

[bitter saddle]

Yea

[hot fulcrum]

I don't think you will have a chest if you already opened checst in this delve this day

Since it's only 1 time per day for specific delve

otherwise it can lead to abuse

[little tulip]

im outta weathered crests, gambe over man 😦

[wicked dagger]

Get brann to lvl 15 an make him a healer. Gg

[blissful elk]

Hey do we know if the weird interaction with echoing reprimands combo points and the deathstalkers mark is intended or a bug?

[river cipher]

Blizz can put shadow dance back in the class tree now

[fallen arch]

Who knows at this point

[worldly sail]

i think its a bug because it works in a very certain setup

[hot fulcrum]

They fixed ER, but looks like waiting to push this change the day when noone will ask about it

[fallen arch]

Fixed ER how

[blissful elk]

It just feels wrong that the anima charged combo points don’t count towards darkest night or the mark itself

[fallen arch]

Yes it does

It makes for a very weird gameplay loop

[slate crown]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[slate crown]

See last point

[fallen arch]

We clearly dont make enough noise

Or it’s actually intended

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/miau-cat-meow-gif-9406008167044251375

[spice surge]

Or they just havent gotten around to it

[fallen arch]

In which case we can confirm again they fucking hate us

[hot fulcrum]

no, they are waiting for silence to push the fix

[spice surge]

Its not a high impact bug

Despite it feeling bad

[blissful elk]

Thanks all for the command and help

[fallen arch]

That makes no sense

[hot fulcrum]

it makes. bcz they are trolling with no fix

[fallen arch]

Apparently

[cobalt geyser]

Can anyone tell me how far are the DS and Fatebound from each other ? Or we can choose whatever we want ?

[spice surge]

Wdym apparently

Its like 1% dps

Its not that big

[woven shore]

i saw this

[spice surge]

But ye hopefully it gets fixed

[bitter saddle]

!best

[prisma monolith]

All Specs are good and have niches and strengths that they play to. All three specs are looking viable with Assassination/Subtlety being preferred in raids. Mythic+ meta has not solidified yet but Assassination looked promising during beta.

Be aware that Simulations are a tool to be used to compare things like talents/gear/rotations, they are not the definite answer to what is meta or not meta. While outlaw is ahead in sims right now, especially dungeonslice, you have to take a step back and realize these are synthetic/generic situations that we use as a baseline. Dungeonslice has always been a great showing for outlaw simply due to the fight style matching well with the spec. This is not unusual or unheard of.

You can view logs of the raid when it comes out Here, or view the mythic+ run leaderboard Here.

[crisp pine]

I'm gonna throw a wild theory out there
I think it might be possible
That the blizzard devs aren't actively trolling rogues by not fixing the bug cause they think it's funny or something

[fallen arch]

You make no sense

Ofcourse they are

[crisp pine]

Yea now that I'm reading it again you're right

Can't believe the entirety of blizzard just wants no one to play rogue anymore so they can remove the class for good

And honestly, I agree

[fallen arch]

Ye exactly

We’re the least played class as is

Might as well delete

[radiant raven]

They're turning a dial in the HQ from "Rogue good" to "Rogue bad" and laughing like villains.

[crisp pine]

Imagine if we lived in a world without rogues
I would never have to hear about re stealthing in dungeons ever again

[marble hemlock]

poor feral druids

[grim jay]

Thats so insanely narrowminded that it hurts at this point even reading it

[crisp pine]

what the fuck is a feral druid

[hot fulcrum]

that is why I think we should stop talking about it. So they won't be able to laugh anymore and fix will come in

[covert schooner]

Kinda feel dumb, I thought in m+ as assassasination you used Slice and Dice, do you not?

[cerulean walrus]

Meownar in shambles

[fallen arch]

‘Make the numbers good, but give em some weird shit in their rotation so they don’t want to play it. While we’re at it, let’s make the other hero tree completely rng’

[fallen arch]

Dude i’m trolling

Right here with ya hoping it gets fixed

[radiant raven]

I think the game is really complex, they're spinning a thousand plates and putting out fires. Fixes will come, but they're only human.

However, the lack of a posion toggle is one of the great questions of our age.

[fallen arch]

U use it once

[quiet oar]

You mean like X-Faction Features

like whispering

like trade chat

[radiant raven]

Yeah

[grim jay]

Doesnt matter, its just in general. The whole "omg low pop its so bad, they gotta make it more popular" topic in itself introduces so much lack of vision

[quiet oar]

like queueing

🙂

[radiant raven]

Look, trade chat is load-bearing

You add mixed factions in there and the game won't be able to tolerate the sheer amount of shitposting going on.

[covert schooner]

So do I maintain it if it drops off?

[fallen arch]

What?

[crisp pine]

What in gods name are you talking about

[fallen arch]

U maintain it with envenom

[marble hemlock]

look at this guy scouring the spec channels

just to shit on @shrewd night

[fallen arch]

Dude I love this spec/class and I dont understand it’s not played more

[marble hemlock]

i respect the hustle

you got my axe

[lusty narwhal]

as if my ascension deck trinket sims higher than a 590 sacbrood by 9k dafuk

[cerulean walrus]

Love you Seli

[next quarry]

Anyone know fastest/easiest delve to spam for assa rogue? 🙂

[covert schooner]

One more question, since we're chain pulling mostly in m+ if things are gonna die real soon, should I just use CT as we move

[cerulean walrus]

We making out behind the dumpster 10p sharp?

[fallen arch]

Yes maintaining ct on as many targets as possible is a good idea

[marble hemlock]

nah dude, were rotmaxxing, we do it IN the dumpster

[tawny pawn]

the amount of times that i heard, "It's just 1% in this discord" people clearly dont know how important multiplicatives are.

[covert schooner]

ty

[cerulean walrus]

Perfect see you there

[shrewd night]

I heard you talking shit

[marble hemlock]

yeah

[royal lantern]

seli turning into a trash panda aswell

[marble hemlock]

what are you gonna do about it, kitten?

[cerulean walrus]

Love you, kitten

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-gif-27161697

[shrewd night]

uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu uwu

[cerulean walrus]

Who’s a good kitty

[spice spire]

Could have gone my life without seeing this

[royal lantern]

meeeee :33333

[spice spire]

Thanks I hate it

[marble hemlock]

look at us

talking about rotmaxxing and kittens

and quake is summoned

[cerulean walrus]

Of course

[slate crown]

#1080572530554835072 get in there

[marble hemlock]

or maybe it was the uwus

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146207476983812117/1282395141608308826/Screenshot_20240908_103929_Spotify.jpg?ex=66dfdbcb&is=66de8a4b&hm=77ef94e41dfbefdd5ec532992522bc1adfacee22130084d35809fbf0657fd38d&

[marble hemlock]

reminding him of a time when he was still young

[grim jay]

Yeah and thats the thing. There are so many people that get hung up on population, its wild. We have a ton of classes and specs in the game and that variety is there so everyone has something they enjoy, rogue players like you and me enjoy rogue for what it is and it doesnt need to forcefully be more popular. I still get ptsd every time someone mentions population

[quiet oar]

banger

[shrewd night]

AYOOOOOOOO

[cerulean walrus]

DAMN

[spice spire]

Dude

[grim jay]

Oh mighty lord and savior

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

I was talking about a dog

[cerulean walrus]

Quake getting slam dunked in the spec channels bro

[shrewd night]

QUAKE

[cerulean walrus]

Crazy

[shrewd night]

WTF

[grim jay]

Quake joined the dark side

[haughty flicker]

CAUGHT

[spice spire]

I didn’t know the dogs gender

[cerulean walrus]

RHAT

THAT

DOESNT MAKE IT BETTER

[spice spire]

Do you not love cute animals

[grim jay]

I hope the judge takes pity

[marble hemlock]

so he loves them young irregardless of gender or?

[spice spire]

Don’t be a freak fere

[shrewd night]

Couldnt catch me dead liking young animals in that way homie

[fallen arch]

Amen brother

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-tie-him-up-and-gif-6009137588214672368

[marble hemlock]

tbf

[marble hemlock]

if theres like

[fallen arch]

Any rogue enjoyers

[spice spire]

I was lacking a comma, I was speaking to @feral mason

[feral mason]

HUH

[shrewd night]

DENY IT

[spice spire]

Silence young Timothy

[marble hemlock]

if i had children, quake probably one of the few people id trust to be around them, everyone else is brainrotted to the max

[shrewd night]

HANG HIM OUT TO DRY

[feral mason]

why are you interrupting my shittalking of french people

i was doing so good

[spice spire]

I’m being gaslit

[feral mason]

and you ruined it

[grim jay]

So you like to talk with quake about the cute younglings

[shrewd night]

gaslamped

[feral mason]

mf im a cute youngling

[shrewd night]

USe the right phrase

[cerulean walrus]

HUH

[marble hemlock]

imagine having kids and zine is babysitting for example

[spice spire]

DOG STOP

[cerulean walrus]

Bro zine babysitting

[crisp pine]

What's like
happening rn
I think I spaced out

[feral mason]

people groombling rn

[grim jay]

Taking care of em, gotta believe it

[quiet oar]

the usual shittalking

[marble hemlock]

@shrewd night have you farked all your gear for heroic?

[spice spire]

Zine would think babysitting is just nutting in some boxers and swearing them on the couch

[cerulean walrus]

People not remembering that #assassination is OT2

[shrewd night]

I farked all over ur mom

[cerulean walrus]

[spice spire]

Wearing even

[slate crown]

@spice spire u good homie?

[cerulean walrus]

Bro?

[shrewd night]

@rigid mango

Can u confirm pls

[grim jay]

ANY MOD IN HERE?

[feral mason]

vro a guildie (social heroic raiding guild btw) ran 34 heroic arakara runs

for the trinket

mental illness truly

[shrewd night]

Imagine doing it, only to have to do it again next week, and then again the week after

[feral mason]

imagine just not doing it

fuck gear im just him

[spice spire]

He can only do it once a day!

[spice spire]

I got it 4 times in a row

[crisp pine]

Guys can you go back to complaining about tea changes or smth

[spice spire]

I’m super cooker

[radiant raven]

amazing

[cerulean walrus]

Quake can’t deny that when the young ones come to town he’s jorkin it

[modest sable]

XD

[cerulean walrus]

And by it

[spice spire]

Gross

[cerulean walrus]

I mean his peanits

[feral mason]

quake is my favorite community figure

[quiet oar]

Quake was the horniest CF

[shrewd night]

Quake out here to release his new jelking mix tape, on skibidi

[feral mason]

no grinkle

[cerulean walrus]

Ohiomaxing

[spice spire]

I’ve had enough trafficking/Statutory cases I don’t even humor the yokes

[spice spire]

I’d never do that

[feral mason]

[shrewd night]

YO

WHAT

[spice spire]

I’m a social worker at a hospital?

Like

I’ve worked so many of these cases

I can’t even humor it it’s 2 real

[feral mason]

fairs

[spice spire]

Hate u mfs fr tho

[cerulean walrus]

Quake

[tawny pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mm-sully-groan-shocked-gif-13294397

[radiant raven]

wow

[tawny pawn]

bro those DN 2~2,5m envenoms

[spice spire]

Yeah but imagine

Mekkajorts

[fallen arch]

Lovely right, imagine they work on your 3rd anima charged cp as well

[tawny pawn]

i genuinely believe they gonna say thats intended

[bitter saddle]

Can someone explain me pooling like I’m 5

[tawny pawn]

which is very sad,

[cerulean walrus]

It’s not intended

[tawny pawn]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on envenom

• For Fatebound, sanguine blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play vicious venoms instead of sanguine blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[cerulean walrus]

And we know this

Because under specific circumstances

It works

[tawny pawn]

can i know which those circuntances are?

cause i know the 5 charged one works cause its 5+

[spice spire]

!dn

[prisma monolith]

Do I need to always be in stealth to apply a Deathstalker Mark?

• Only the initial application. Darkest Night reapplies and will be the majority of your applications
  Echoing Reprimand....
• Yes, Echoing Reprimand doesn't interact with the Mark / Darkest Night, this is one of the biggest bugs still plaguing Deathstalker as a whole
• Until it is fixed, you would want to run 2/2 Lethality and still put 1 point into Echoing Reprimand
  But the 3rd cp or something?
• Correct, there has been a newly found... bug? interaction? With the Mark and Echoing Reprimand. It requires you to have your 3rd combo point be animacharged, the Mark be applied from Darkest Night, and then consuming the animacharge with Envenom. Should all those conditions be met, it will consume a stack of the Mark as intended.
  Does Blizzard know?
• There is no way they don't know. This has been mass reported, screamed from the rooftops, highlighted in every wowhead article, youtube video, forum post and stream since Deathstalker was revealed in alpha. The only thing we can do is keep reporting the bug through the in-game report, making noise on forums, and waiting.

[spice spire]

Hey

[bitter saddle]

Okay so I spend it all while maximizing envenom buff time. Then I run dry and can’t keep up anymore i just chill until energy at 70% again if I’m coin flip hero talent

[cerulean walrus]

!deeznuts

[spice spire]

Yep

You found the line

[quiet oar]

Isnt the unbuffed ER only 1 point

[spice spire]

Least unhinged dh

[cerulean walrus]

Least horny DH

[deep fjord]

hi folk, is it just me or anyone have similar feelings. it would be great if Deathstalker buff not on target, but on player. was fun at playiing assa, but then it feels hard to switch target in m+

[spice spire]

One brain cell

[bitter saddle]

Okay so I don’t have to feel bad when I gotta wait for energy every now and then

[quiet oar]

couldnt be quake

[cerulean walrus]

Quake makes me quake

[spice spire]

My dh had to force name change (my ex fiancée named it and it got reported)

[quiet oar]

I hope quake quakes us all

[spice spire]

Dogs?

[shrewd night]

Whenever I need endorphins, I think of quake in a maid outfit

[tawny pawn]

its all depends, since its a mark, it make more sense to be on target, also, but because of that restriction it should be more rewarding.

unlike FB

[quiet oar]

Unluigi

[tawny pawn]

that you can play more carelessly

[spice spire]

Yeah if I lose it in a pack I just aim to kill and then proc darkest night

[quiet oar]

You too !?

[shrewd night]

[spice spire]

Dog you’ve seen me like once

Hung over 3 years ago

2?

Whichever

[feral mason]

deathstalker will be perfectly fine in m+ outside of the er thing

since shit doesnt die in 10 seconds and you only pull 2 packs usually

[shrewd night]

What of this is supposed to make me feel wrong about wanting to see you in a maid outfit?

[spice spire]

Yes

[shrewd night]

Not helping your case, bud

[cerulean walrus]

They don’t want our love to exist!

THEY DONT WANT OUR LOVE TO EXIST

[quiet oar]

Quake just shy

[spice spire]

What case

[tawny pawn]

yeah im trying my best to hit dummy for like 5mins, with FB and DS

not a single time i hit more with FB

[hollow whale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[tawny pawn]

ER + DN are too good for envenom dmg.

i also dont need to worry about pooling that much

like i do in FB

hunt them down doing some work too

the sad part is that even tho we have VV mutilate and ambush dmg does not increase that much

[normal mist]

It's kinda cool to see that amount of envenom DMG

[tawny pawn]

it is i love it

twist incoming too

so

stonks

[coral agate]

I'm sorry but I am beginning to hate how DM works. Needing to be in stealth and start with an Ambush is infuriating when so many of their encounters or activities knock you out of stealth in the open world or in dungeons.

[tawny pawn]

yeah it can be annoying

thats why for that kind of content i run FB

@coral agate just run this

for M+ delve

[feral mason]

UH

[distant plinth]

Shit is rogue S tier or?

[tired gull]

Big juicer envenoms are my reasons to live

[feral mason]

fotm gooner and that joke in your bio

oh brother

[distant plinth]

Its my guild not joke

[tawny pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-15672128729567338057

[distant plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/pou-nothings-new-sad-shower-gif-6371051761574215667

[shrewd night]

https://tenor.com/view/idi-naxui-gif-26345237

[haughty sand]

Gamers what are you doing for embellishments? 💪🏻

[feral mason]

just made dawnthread on 590 pieces

[feral mason]

no point in crafting anything rn

[normal mist]

You only need to do it once

[ornate hamlet]

Im thinking of leveling my rogue today, how good assass looking for the new season?

[fallow estuary]

Don't forget guys, once Wensday hits do not use bountifull delves to level up to 8 - even if you don't use the key the delve will loose the bountifull buff

[bitter saddle]

It’s fun

Big dmg in dungeons

[tawny pawn]

all rogues looking mid right now

[bitter saddle]

Bleeds go brr and fok makes a nice sound

[dawn pollen]

are they all around the same or is one spec looking better ?

[bitter saddle]

So rogues not good if I wanna be top dps in coming raid?

[little tulip]

level with outlaw, do 78-80 with sassin imo

you get access to sudden demise

[spice surge]

Saying assa rogue is looking mid for m+ is a bit disingenuous

[tawny pawn]

hmm i would say they looking very similar with sub a lil behind in aoe

[ornate hamlet]

i have ele and frost dk leveled so far, just didnt do it for me, im thinking of going either assass or enhance, but im not sure i like deathstalker and I like something with fat single target

[dawn pollen]

so in single all around the same ?

[little tulip]

it's such a good talent for world mobs

[spice surge]

Based of beta it seems like the best spec in the entire game for m+ dps

[tawny pawn]

yes, for single around the same

we are mid-lower bracket

[real pike]

anyone handy with top gear sims (something something jeremy clarkson)? is there a way to add in all crafts at 590

?

[gray pond]

Hello everyone,
Is there an item level requirement for M0. If so what is the level?

[brisk lodge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bitter saddle]

The level is what the community makes it. If you open your own group you can be naked

[livid pilot]

How is rogue looking for raid and keys?

[limber lion]

Good'

[tawny pawn]

tests were 1 month ago many things have changed

[spice surge]

No people are still doing beta keys

[queen egret]

we still clear the witness during cds ?

[tawny pawn]

i meant the tests that indicated assa as best M+ spec in terms of dmg

[spice surge]

Yes so do i

[tawny pawn]

can you show me?

i would actually be very handy if so

it certain it will be strong i just wanna see the comparison

[strange python]

a beautiful blend of poison & bleed

[spice surge]

I mean theres no clear comparisons

[tawny pawn]

oh.

so.

[spice surge]

Its just people that still run keys on beta

And assa wasnt nerfed

The other classes that were competing were

[vale marten]

hello, if we are at 6 cp do we want to use fan of knives on ST to get darkest night or just try to go again?

[spice surge]

Mutilate

And feels sad

[vale marten]

really? even if its hard overcap

[spice surge]

Yep

[vale marten]

ok thx, good to know

[tawny pawn]

you can reapply garrote too if its 10 seconds or less

its about the same efficiency

[vale marten]

and clear the witness? we just press whenever its up?

[covert schooner]

Hey, is it just an inveitablitly that I'll end up energy starved on bosses, or am I doing something wrong

[tawny pawn]

clear the witness is dog for ST

i know people are hyping it

its not a dps gain.

[spice surge]

If youre in an m+ spec yes, in the raid spec no

(vicious venom is the difference)

[queen egret]

is assa supposed to be equal to sub for raid? I am simming 15% less on ST as assa

[covert schooner]

okay thanks!

Haven't messed around with raid talents just yet

[normal mist]

Yes it's normal

[vale marten]

alright

[slate crown]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[covert schooner]

Think tyrannical is going to change out spec for m+?

[normal mist]

Nop

[covert schooner]

okay ^_^

[subtle tundra]

That's not a thing anymore

It's not fort or tyra

[covert schooner]

oh

[quiet oar]

I mean

[covert schooner]

Havent played in a bit

[quiet oar]

it is

until you are at 10

at 10 you have both

[subtle tundra]

It's relevant first week only 😔

[quiet oar]

Maybe for you elitist

[subtle tundra]

If you care about your spec and you won't do 10s then you're delusional

[hidden herald]

I just made a video tutorial how to get the bubbling wax, where to get the quest, how to complete the quest, where to farm the wax etc - don't think i'm allowed to post the link here though am I?

[quiet oar]

Let people ahve their fun

[subtle tundra]

Yea the fun to play what you enjoy not what's meta, that's what I'm encouraging

[strange python]

tfw your idea of optimal assa fun in keys is pure poison build

[tawny pawn]

ye poison is poggers for high keys

[subtle tundra]

I will ignore your opinions 😊

[strange python]

i was playing it all season last season and the highest i set foot in was +13 😄

[subtle tundra]

I wish internal bleeding was competitive in m+

[tawny pawn]

most of our dmg is from caustic splatter

so ye. poison.

[worldly sail]

the rules say:
Self-promotion is not allowed. If what you have created is not specifically relevant to the topic at hand, you are not allowed to post a link to it or advertise it in any way while using this server. , so depends on the context i guess?

[subtle tundra]

Not really this season

Bleeds are very strong with current tuning

[tawny pawn]

Sir thats for low keys.

[subtle tundra]

Nope

In general

[strange python]

yeah but just.. not having dm+kb into spatter in keys is just straight up troll

[hidden herald]

I just saw a bunch of people asking so i looked up how to do and made a video to help others

[gray horizon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's 11.0 Afenar Edit
Luxthos's 11.0 Group
LE's 11.0 Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's 11.0 Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's 11.0 Plater

[tawny pawn]

another one.

[somber nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1282520764540784720/image.png?ex=66dfa80a&is=66de568a&hm=b76a911630dec207de8933885e93fdd87cf6224d348e8992963072841d359c0f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

thats from last night

[tawny pawn]

mine is from beta test.

10~ keys

[somber nimbus]

nice

Im just pointing out that you are right

[tawny pawn]

yeye

[strange python]

spatter was my 2nd in a leveling dungeon where everything died in seconds because my rogue is 520 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tawny pawn]

i saw that

[hidden herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Kk_bpsMQE&ab_channel=Shivz

[tawny pawn]

people are impressed by demise dmg

[subtle tundra]

Idk ct is almost the same as caustic and it's only one of the bleeds

Without sanguine

[tawny pawn]

feel free lil bro

im here to try to give information i have to people that ask for help.

or either ask things i feel uncertain about

not to get personal.

so

[oak eagle]

how do i get better at vidya gmae

[strange python]

apply more force when pressing button

[oak eagle]

tyty

[strange python]

it is scientifically proven

[oak eagle]

yeah im barely hitting my keys

so thats why im doing low dam

[rigid mango]

no farking way would I do smth like that

[subtle tundra]

Don't care I'll push my agenda

[rigid mango]

also why are the old men talking about me for 0 reason

again

@spice spire @marble hemlock rent free bozos

I'mma start having to grab some fucking rent off you two soon

[oak eagle]

why tf is there so much shit going on this channel

[rigid mango]

idk ask the old men

[strange python]

i'm about to turn 31, do i qualify?

[gray horizon]

people are on edge and scared to lose the 1 spot in raid for rogue

[subtle tundra]

New expansion meaning new people, though I have no idea why anyone would try rogue this expansion, literally 0 cool shit

[karmic hill]

Any recommendation’s for a new fun class?? Only ever played rogue seriously

[strange python]

arcane has gotten a reeeeeeeeeal nice face lift with the hero talents

[subtle tundra]

Look at every class hero talents and choose whichever looks the coolest

[oak eagle]

yeah im debating on trying out arcane

[covert schooner]

Is this right for deathstalker assass

[oak eagle]

no, you want amp poison im pretty sure

[strange python]

crippling poison will make some tanks hate you in dungeons/keys

if you always have it on

[subtle tundra]

You want it on cause it's dmg increase

Not on bosses ofc

[oak eagle]

which tbf idk why tanks would hate you, helps them kite easier + no more sanguine

[covert schooner]

oh opps, thought I hit ampli

ty

[spice spire]

You need me so bad it’s insane, biblical even.

[oak eagle]

this channel is gonne get put on timeout, isnt it

[rigid mango]

I'm in a relationship you freak

you'd have to ask the missus

[spice spire]

It’s September

[indigo elk]

do the wep enchant stack or proc on seperate cd?

[oak eagle]

nah you in a relationship with the bag you make from them

[spice spire]

You know what the means king

[royal lantern]

hey hey hey

soon you can stare at your energy bar or you waste a tea into nothing, isnt that cool?

[rigid mango]

yeah it means my bday is soon

[spice surge]

If you have two of the same enchants you just get 2x as much stats whenever it procs

The proc rate remains the same

[rotund oak]

so the point of being porsche means being more expensive stands 🙂

[indigo elk]

thanks for the response! are we doing 2x depths? seems insanely expensive to swap between m+ and raiding

[subtle tundra]

Once again, blizz proves all the changes they make are to appeal to a broader audience, meaning losing spec identity and skill expression in this case

[dusty zenith]

Single assassin rogue gamer looking for female outlaw spec to boss around and make do dishes

Wrong channel sorry

[royal lantern]

they should just make it a chose 1node and thats it

idk why you would force that cringe auto tea on everyone

[tawny pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-good-morning-love-messages-gif-25662378

[royal lantern]

multiple Specs have nodes for those situations

[tawny pawn]

blizz be like: DRINK THE DAM TEEEAA

[spice surge]

Just dont swap

Pick one

[indigo elk]

Yikes okay, crazy expensive right now

[spice surge]

I mean its not like you'll do 20% less damage with the other enchant

Were talking like 0.5%

[somber nimbus]

are people really trying to get that bubbling wax weapon buff

seems too much work for nothing

[snow kindle]

how is it a dmg increase

[spice surge]

Its not much work at all

[somber nimbus]

is it even good

[spice surge]

Its about as good as a whetstone

[median igloo]

think i farmed 80 in like 1h yesterday, didnt seem too bad

[hidden herald]

too much work? it takes 5 minutes. Apprently its looking strong for single target, potentially BIS. It's okay in AOE around 0.5%-1% of your damage profile

[subtle tundra]

Lethal dose

[somber nimbus]

alright ill get it geez

nice vid

[waxen oyster]

you can also buy whetstones

[median igloo]

whetstone is better if you'd rather just spend the gold

[dusty zenith]

Bismuth 50g a pop good luck

[shy dust]

You don’t have to do this. You can just not

[subtle tundra]

It's not about performance it's about the gold price

Esp in content where my dps doesn't need minmaxing

[clever perch]

Whispyr plz update

[pliant remnant]

I can't believe he would recommend ESTILETE SUCCIONADOR

[clever perch]

xDD

[undone pollen]

Is the oil in azj-kahet that the vendor sells that does nature damage viable in any way?

[normal kindle]

No oil GO WAX

https://tenor.com/view/the40year-old-virgin-comedy-steve-carell-wax-waxing-gif-3429153

[coral agate]

Except you either have to pop Vanish which bugs half the things in encounters if solo and you lose a major CD.

[median igloo]

it was mentioned yesterday, but you're only going to use wax in 1h as it currently isnt stacking. so you're going to need oil or whetstone in the other dagger anyways

[subtle tundra]

Well not a major CD, cause it's not much dps, but your complaint is valid

[normal mist]

But why vanish

In case the mark is already rolling

[subtle tundra]

I'd guess sometimes shit happens and you lose it or can't get it

[cyan summit]

yo guys any idea when is M0 release ?

[subtle tundra]

Have yet to play deathstalker though

[normal mist]

Today/tomorrow

[cyan summit]

no exact time ?

[normal mist]

Once you ambush you apply 3 marks

[subtle tundra]

On reset

[normal mist]

You consume the 3 marks you get a buff

[subtle tundra]

I know how it works bud

... I can read

Surprisingly

[cyan summit]

do we know what time is that ?

[subtle tundra]

It's continent based idk

[normal mist]

I was not trying to explain how it works bud, I was trying to find a way to fuck up the loop

[spice surge]

Its released on the weekly reset

[nova aspen]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/4-hour-scheduled-maintenance-september-10th-7-00-am-11-00-am-pdt-346518

[subtle tundra]

You get broken out of stealth by a dot or by some aoe before you can ambush. What do you do

[haughty flicker]

[eager tree]

bruh lmao what. what time does the weekly reset happen for you every single tuesday? that's the time it'll be

[fair coyote]

He told you. if you get knocked out of stealth before first application you are forced to burn a vanish

[haughty flicker]

when is that ever actually going to happen

it wont happen in raid

[fair coyote]

In m+ happens

[haughty flicker]

in m+ (bugs notwithstanding) you only have to ambush the first time

but thats assuming they fix bugs with dn falling off

which is a bit of a big but

[subtle tundra]

Why is everyone a deathstalker protector wtf. Yea if everything is perfect it's not a bad hero talent. If anything goes wrong you're fucked

[haughty flicker]

because its not everything

[subtle tundra]

What if you die mid boss without mark applied

[haughty flicker]

it works fine 90% of the time

yes it could, and should, be better

[subtle tundra]

You're absolutely cucked

[haughty flicker]

but it isnt absolutely fucking terrible like you people make it out to be

[subtle tundra]

Yea but why are people so keen on defending it

[oak eagle]

M0 open on weekly reset, so Tuesday for NA and Wednesday for EU

[fiery bear]

On same notion what happens to deathstalker mark if boss goes immune due to phase change or some mechanic?

[subtle tundra]

I can only see it as a handicap

[snow kindle]

its pretty bad for sin.

its not that bad for sub

[bitter saddle]

Deathstaöker is cool what you mean

[fair coyote]

I will reveal you a secret about this discord. There is a few really great theorycrafyer, the rest of the people repeat what they read

[oak eagle]

well you either have to hope you can re apply it if its long enough, or hope you have the darkest night proc last long enough or have a vanish to press ambush again and have mark back on them

[spiral gale]

Ask mob for a mulligan

[arctic socket]

I’m just sad that goblins rogues don’t get anything special while playing fate 😦

Like counterfeit some coins

[haughty flicker]

not dooming about literally everything=just repeating what others say

ye sure

[subtle tundra]

Yea I haven't played it, and I haven't played beta. On m+ week I'll absolutely spam m+ probably around 20 keys in the first day. Losing mark will happen very often I'll guarantee you

It will become a very annoying thing that will for sure fuck with me

[limber lion]

[haughty flicker]

for sure

[tawny pawn]

Play fatebound.

[oak eagle]

no it wont, because when a mob dies with the mark on it, it gives you darkest night and thats a 1 min proc and youll use a 7cp Envenom at least once

[arctic socket]

Just open up with ambush on the packs

[tawny pawn]

3 solutions

in 0.5 seconds

[oak eagle]

i think this guy is trolling

no way he isnt

[tawny pawn]

he is mad its fine

he is not all wrong

[fair coyote]

I am not saying he isnt exaggerating but I see a failure to respond critically to his doubts

[subtle tundra]

I'll die plenty, I'll be broken out of stealth, I'll forget about it. Many things possible

[haughty flicker]

literally the first thing i did was respond critically to his doubts

situations where it falls off do not come up as commonly as is being said

[tawny pawn]

it is somewhat of a bad design he is not wrong, but we gotta do what we can, we cant FIX, and rioting wont do much, report to blizzard, complain and thats it.

[haughty flicker]

dying mid boss fight is probably the biggest one

[arctic socket]

Just open up with ambush if you’re admitting to dying plenty / being broken out of stealth it’s doubtful you’re doing high enough keys for you to even be worried about the mark

[haughty flicker]

and when that happens it'll definitely feel like shit

[oak eagle]

just open with ambush on every pack, you also have a vanish to reapply it. make a weakaura that tells you to ambush when you target a mob theres many fixes to it

[subtle tundra]

Doing progress keys first week means it will happen plenty

[tawny pawn]

run fatebound.

[oak eagle]

yeah or just run fatebound

its not like its that much of a dps difference

[tawny pawn]

i run fatebound all the time

[subtle tundra]

Yea that's true,probably will

But deathstalker is still there

I'll also want to play whatever is best cause keys are at their hardest

[median igloo]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[oak eagle]

then spend some time at training dummies to get into the habit of pressing ambush as your first global

[haughty flicker]

wtf is this pixel doing

[oak eagle]

just do your burst, reset, and go again

[haughty flicker]

it isnt a dead pixel on my screen

its just there in wow

[cerulean walrus]

It’s best

[subtle tundra]

Wtf are you on about

[oak eagle]

i think its because youre an L bozo

[subtle tundra]

I'm not a new player

[haughty flicker]

i mean we're kind of getting a bit weird here

[oak eagle]

im giving you solutions to you forgetting to press ambush as your first global when going into packs, like you said

[subtle tundra]

I mentioned that one time

Once

As a last example

[cerulean walrus]

Imagine having to ambush as your first global every pack

What a waste

Just succumb to dn

[oak eagle]

is it just shadowstrike for sub?

[fair coyote]

I feel like there is no need to get personal

[subtle tundra]

Don't strawman me

[haughty flicker]

the dying on bosses part is definitely the biggest issue

i dont think getting broken out of stealth will hurt at all

[real pike]

then you have an envenom as one of your IC window globals

[haughty flicker]

but i do wish there was a way to recover after you die

other than waiting until vanish is off cd

[oak eagle]

i mean, the mark should stay on the boss if you die

[cyan gulch]

Hello guys, whats the best race for goue

[agile kestrel]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

You can freely use weathered crests to craft any 590's you'd like. Preferences currently are wrist/belt/rings.

The current "best" embellishment is Ascension on a dagger with a nerubian patch on wrist. This is very overtuned compared to other embellishments and nerfs/buffs are expected.
The current "safe" embellishment to craft is dawnthread on wrist/belt, as this will most likely be generically good.
Blizzard has been tuning embellishments near daily since the expansion has come out. Because of this, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO CHASE BIS EMBELLISHMENTS OR USE SPARKS CURRENTLY
Towards the start of raid release recommendations will update everywhere.

[oak eagle]

but yeah it will suck if you have darkest night

to not refresh

[cyan gulch]

Whats the best race for Assa rogue?

[limber lion]

Any of them

[cerulean walrus]

Whatever looks best to you cause if you’re asking that question you do not play at a level where it makes a difference

[limber lion]

Damage wise Orc

[oak eagle]

just play whatever you want, theres little difference between all of them

[haughty flicker]

dracthyr can fly, enough said

[cyan gulch]

ty bois

[limber lion]

np

[fallen arch]

Dracthyr are not available

[cerulean walrus]

They will be

[slate crown]

Shining brighter than the dredges around it. It dreamed for greatness and reached for the stars to the the lone light in the darkness

[cerulean walrus]

[fallen arch]

Yes but not for months

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah 2 months

Not far away

[oak eagle]

thats like, 2 months away

its the 20th anniversary event

[dusty zenith]

Goblin best race because of movement from rocket jump

[oak eagle]

when 11

11.0.5 is*

[haughty flicker]

i can cover it with my mouse

[median igloo]

what racials do dracthyr have again?

[haughty flicker]

its cursed

some ui element being bugged i guess

[cerulean walrus]

Undead best because you play Deathstalker so it’s a flavor win

[slate crown]

holy shit you're smothering it

[cerulean walrus]

[slate crown]

murderer

[oak eagle]

a knockback, a knock up, glide those are the only noteable things

[karmic hill]

When you guys are aoe opening as assas are you spreading bleeds strictly on the marked target or are you tabbing around and coming back to the marked target for splatter?

[haughty flicker]

aoe knock up and aoe knockback on 3m cd, a bit of mastery, and most importantly glide

[slate crown]

srsly tho if you care to investigate it, /framestack and mouse over it to see if the owning frame is discernable and if it has a familiar name like an addon name

[oak eagle]

i just use bleeds off of my marked target and go from there

so i make sure i dont lose it in all my frames

unless its a like, 5 mob pack then I tab around since its easier to find my marked target

[limber lion]

Depends on target count

[karmic hill]

Sick, was trying to tab around and was running into that same issue

[unique sorrel]

5 target smack it twice on the main target

More than that, tab off

[limber lion]

You should tab around on 4 targets or 6 or 8+

Actually 4 doesn't matter

But 6 or 8+

[placid adder]

What lol

[karmic hill]

Does it prio targets without bleeds on them or can it reapply?

[unique sorrel]

Was about to say

[limber lion]

What what

[limber lion]

Yes

It reapplies the oldest bleed if there's no other targets to apply the bleed to

[fallen arch]

What if you not tab and slam 3x garrote on ur first target?

[limber lion]

Then you get 7 garrotes

[fallen arch]

Instead of 9?

[limber lion]

Yes

[karmic hill]

This is great info, thanks boss

[limber lion]

Because you're applying the garrote to the main target and the IC part is spreading 2 bleeds elsewhere

[fallen arch]

Yes I see

[limber lion]

So if you have 6 targets, you should tab because then you can apply all bleeds with 2 gcd

[unique sorrel]

Bless color based DOT tracking with plater though

[limber lion]

If you have 8+ targets, you need to tab around to get bleed on em all

[unique sorrel]

Saves so much sanity for deciding what to tab dot to

[rose dirge]

Thoughts guys? What hero talent are you using in the raid for ST?

[limber lion]

Deathstalker

[cyan gulch]

u guys think assa is getting nerf

?

[limber lion]

No

Assa is not great in st atm

It literally needs a buff

And bug fixes

[unique sorrel]

Assa only has funny prio damage on AOE afaik

That’s it’s “niche”

[arctic socket]

Is it really “that” bad? Like should I go sub for st?

[limber lion]

Sub is just as bad my guy

[unique sorrel]

Rogue is having a moment of all time overall

[arctic socket]

What about outlaw

[limber lion]

Outlaw cranks

[arctic socket]

Eh

But it’s also outlaw

[unique sorrel]

Unfortunately it’s also outlaw

[limber lion]

Exactly

[narrow marsh]

XD

[fallen arch]

That’s the trade off

[limber lion]

Also shit that's good now might not be good in a week

[minor swift]

wym outlaw goes pew pew

[limber lion]

Or vice versa

[gusty lichen]

Does outlaw really crank right now?

[limber lion]

Yes

[arctic socket]

Yeah with that trade off I will just continue to play sin

[limber lion]

Like literally no one here is a fortune teller

[alpine galleon]

i feel like with outlaw its much less realistic to get as close to ST sims as assa though

[limber lion]

We might get patch notes in 17 minutes that buffs Assa by 20%

You never know

[slate crown]

speak for urself

[cloud basin]

I'm expecting a ascension nerf soon lol

[spice surge]

Doubt it

If anything they should make embellishments scale with ilvl so theyre not completely worthless

[limber lion]

Yeah but when Outlaw sims like 10% more than Assa, it's a pretty safe choice.

[spice surge]

Like ye ascension is worth 0.6% instead of the 0.5% the other embellishments are worth

[acoustic dock]

yo ! where did u see that outlaw is that strong

[spice surge]

Pog 20% better

[limber lion]

Literally anywhere

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[limber lion]

Simulationcraft sims

Idk

There's choices

A thing to consider for the raid is the encounter design however

Like Assa has had tiers where it doesn't sim super duper insane, but still performs well because of tier design

Same with Sub

Or the opposite with Outlaw, where it sims super high but most fights are terrible for it

[severe sparrow]

You're making me feel bad about deciding this was the expansion I was finally gonna break up with my side piece outlaw and go full time with my true love ass

[limber lion]

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter unless you're pushing giga content

[severe sparrow]

[limber lion]

Just play whatever you want homie

[woven shore]

where them rog's at ?

[gray horizon]

you could always just play sin and outlaw and swap between fights

[alpine galleon]

yeah it does sim quite a bit better, but I think in reality its not going to be substantially better than assa due to the way the raid fights play out

[gray horizon]

see what feels best

[limber lion]

Yeh

[alpine galleon]

or i just suck ass at outlaw which is also possible lol

[stiff inlet]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[limber lion]

10%+ is A LOT though

Like it's a massive number

But yeah