assassination

[autumn frost]

True

[ruby birch]

but more than likely it's gonna be a dps loss

[autumn frost]

I'd wonder if raidbots is good at simming eranog ring

[ruby birch]

should be accurate

[earnest remnant]

Why wouldn’t it be?

[autumn frost]

I feel like flame uptime without say helmet or incadescent stone would be very very variable

If I'm relying on grieftorch

[earnest remnant]

Yeah?

A sim is compiled of like 10k runs

So you get the avg

[gusty mirage]

nah, I'm just not going to pay for this new era of expansions where it's just rushed, wait for them to "fix" everything, then mail in season 4 with a "reboot" of absolutely nothing new

I'd rather spend my money on diablo 4's expac or some other game tbh

[lean portal]

very agree with you

unfortunately im addicted

but tww seems so rushed

didnt try beta but its scary

[silk bane]

to be kinda fair to them, i went through all the list of changes today. litearlly every class other than hunter, dh, shaman, rogue has gotten mostly an overhaul and good changes. most hero talents are also in good shape. 4/13 is not that bad but I also 100% agree with you

[lean portal]

whats the probleme with rogue ? is it weak or bad design

[gusty mirage]

idk man, 2 months of alpha and 2 months of beta doesn't really feel like it'll result in a polished product

[lean portal]

cause if it feels weak it can easily change

[gusty mirage]

fatebound and trickster are fixable, they're at least somewhat interesting, and can be number tuned to be good. Deathstalker is just awful

there's no amount of number tuning that can make it good tbh

[lean portal]

:/

[high jetty]

Fuck poison bomb covering swirlies on forge master boss in nelths. That’s all I have to contribute today

[lean portal]

i hope the actual content isnt as rushed

i loved df

[gusty mirage]

I sense that the regular content will be good

might have some bugs

but they always deliver on that

[lean portal]

hope so

yeah bugs is blizzard mega classic

[gusty mirage]

that and the art team HARD carry wow

[lean portal]

but as long as i can play 14 hours a day its a win

the art team ?

[gusty mirage]

yea, the cinematics people, the people designing the tmogs, etc

[slate crown]

Every thing your eyeballs see in the game world

[gusty mirage]

they're really really fucking good at their jobs

[slate crown]

is art

[lean portal]

oh thats very cool at least

[slate crown]

USE YOUR EYES

[lean portal]

yeah wondered if it was just like cinematics or everything everything

[slate crown]

And is a lot of work and effort, and yes, wow's art team has historically (and currently) outpaced every other team

in terms of quality

[lean portal]

true

[earnest remnant]

Wow's art team is the same as Lost Ark's music team

actual 10/10 work

[silk bane]

dude how can i turn on health bar in solo raid thingys in lost ark

its the thing thats tilting me the most right now

[spice spire]

np

[silk bane]

thank you

[earnest remnant]

You can’t. Guardian raids don’t have them

Only way to get it is with the dps meter which technically isn’t allowed

[silk bane]

thats so aids though

like how can i know how close i am to killing the boss

also with the meter, how much do they care? like if im not streaming/ harrassing peoples dps with it do they care enough to find out?

do they have a vangaurd like system to check if youre running other stuff?

[earnest remnant]

Through the mechs happening

You won’t get banned for having it just don’t flaunt that you use it

[silk bane]

nice nice thanks! its actually starting to get fun

[earnest remnant]

i have so many raids left -.-

[silk bane]

i need to farm more, maybe make a fwe alts and funnel some mats to my main...

but i keep going and pvping...

[rotund oak]

PvPing

you called me

im listening

[rotund oak]

thats not wow

[silk bane]

i have a reaper and a souleater and a deathblade and a shadowhunter rn

[hot vortex]

been back to wow for the past week and im loving it

feels great to be playing again

[earnest remnant]

im just gonna park all of them at 1540 basically besides the two bottom ones which are gonna be parked at 1370 for a bit

i dont have Pheons to make them playable atm

so no point in getting them higher

[silk bane]

i think im gonna try to gear my reaper or souleater as much as i can first

just use the other ones to funnel it

then maybe i do more stuff later with the other ones

[earnest remnant]

no point in honing them up if they dont have engravings

[silk bane]

oh yeah okay engarvings are litearl aids wtf

i watched some guides and its like oh you need exactly therse ones

and its like i never get those ones

im straight up gambaing it up

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[earnest remnant]

well you buy books

and then you buy acessories

thats it

[silk bane]

i gotta watch more stuff on it.

oh also, the "mogs"

u just have to buy them either with irl money or from the auction house thigny right?

market or w/e its caleld

u cant earn them in game?

[earnest remnant]

yep

there are some chaos dungeon ones

that drop

but they are nothing crazy

[silk bane]

man despairge, theres so many cool mogs

[earnest remnant]

just dont look at legendary skin prices

[halcyon karma]

/wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[silk bane]

i fucked up. this guy on reddit did some math ....

whyd i look it up

shoulda listened

[earnest remnant]

legendary skin is like 50k gold

its not that bad

for the weapon

i just spent 15k gold on 10 ilvls on my scrapper

so yeah

so its 1520 for reset

so it can do gate 1-4 brel

[silk bane]

oh nice thats really good.

i gotta get more gold now too...

[earnest remnant]

compare that to a level 10 gem 🙂

[silk bane]

lots of stuff to do! luckily for me im most likely only raid logging next season so i got time

[earnest remnant]

they dropped 200k over the last 48 hours cuz of the new season announcement

[silk bane]

jfc... im not gona be able to afford most of these for a while...

whts the fastest way to get gold outside of buying

[earnest remnant]

raids

fishing

the oreha fish

[silk bane]

oh fishing is lucrative? alright gotta try that one

[earnest remnant]

they are used for crafting Oreha fusion mats

which are expensive af

these

[silk bane]

nice nice i learned so much! gonna try and play more

the games so time consuming

but its also fun

[earnest remnant]

[silk bane]

and ngl the pvp is a banger, im staggering 3 people in their spawn just mmurdering them its hilarious

[earnest remnant]

thats basically how you make money

[silk bane]

oh thats actually not too bad

how long did it take u to collect the 486

[earnest remnant]

ehm like 3 weeks

[silk bane]

cries in 220k gem

[earnest remnant]

thats just from 1 character

thats my 1610 reaper that makes thoes from daily stuff

[silk bane]

oh alright ill look up some gold farming guides see if i can find anything else. ill let you know if I find anything useful!

got alot of gold to make

[earnest remnant]

wish i could sell these tho

just sitting on 2mil honor shards

[silk bane]

bro gimme

i need those

im down horrendous LOL

[earnest remnant]

i have 4 charrs with over 1mil on em

cuz there is no point in my honing them above 1540

now they sold

[silk bane]

wont you need those when next season / future raids come?

[earnest remnant]

those were the unbound ones

these are bound

[royal lantern]

#off-topic

[silk bane]

oooh right right.

[royal lantern]

idk, wanted to put a link in here

[silk bane]

bro linked to assassination channel smh

[shy pecan]

I thought it was #wow-general

[primal jolt]

what a great day to play some deathstalker

time to pump and get all the bitches

[obtuse rock]

idk what im doing wrong but on single target in keys im feeling very energy starved. new to spec. any tips

[clever sapphire]

thats just how it is

we dont have infinite energy

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[obtuse rock]

thank you

[still stirrup]

it just be like that sometimes, assuming you are running the art shock build is quite bad for energy without enough bleeds up (aka in ST)

[grim jay]

I barely notice a difference between that and the St build for the important parts

Just maybe pooling one more time per boss

[still stirrup]

I find I have to pool more often in keys, raid is noticable on some bosses more than others

[hexed frost]

DIES SUDDENLY

[marble trench]

of em

[rotund oak]

SD cheeses the meters so hard its funny

[grim jay]

I mean I dont know if id call it cheese

Unless you actively play around it

Which is kinda eh

[rotund oak]

it happens randomly but its a significant amount of dmg

dunno if u can ever play around it,its just,u have bleeds,it procs

[grim jay]

You can for example actively refresh stuff for no reason

My sd is never as high as on some peoples screenshots for example

[rotund oak]

yeah true,but its like u said earlier

could be a massive L

like refreshing dots on stuff that dies in the next 3-4 sec

😅

[fallen arch]

Ye but that means big dam

And trolling super hard

Ultra pad

Give rogues bad name

Don’t give rogues bad name

[grim jay]

I think my sd is only ever really high if its like a weekly key

And stuff dies before DM runs out

So theres the DM bleed pop

[tawny pagoda]

Look at destro dmg.. this is pad😃

[grim jay]

And AP shiv on stuff that pops

[hexed frost]

More IC windows = more + stronger bleeds = more mobs dying suddenly

It's that easy

Just keep bleeds up

Splatter damage is for turbo virgins

[clever sapphire]

ah ye? i dare you to run a key with internal bleeding instead if spatter

[hexed frost]

That's like entering a brothel with erectile dysfunction.

Not the same thing as a turbo virgin

[fallen arch]

Wtf kinda take is this

[fallen arch]

Meanwhile bolstering keeps buffing the beefy target of the pack

[grim jay]

(look at the color of his name)

[royal lantern]

the joke writes itself

[grim jay]

I mean "turbo virgin" kinda gave it away even if colorblind

Thats just zoomer incarnate

[royal lantern]

yes

[primal jolt]

hello lovelies

pumpers my beloved

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/bongocatsolana-bongosolana-bongocattakeova-bongotakeova-bongosol-gif-16612635067832756070

What color?

[barren yarrow]

Ok idk if anyone can explain or make sense of this but I was in raid last night. My opener was a lot better pushing almost 500k dps but after KB/DM finishes my dos drops off pretty hard, is this normal?

o would try to chain envenom but I’m still learning how to do it. My poisons were up almost the whole fight every time. 91% uptime.

[cunning magnet]

The way I understand it is that our damage with Kb/Dm is similar to unholy dk. Burst then fall, burst then fall, etc.

[barren yarrow]

Ok sorta like sub in a way I guess.

our outlaw rogue was nuts. But it’s so different.

[normal mist]

Assa has DMG spikes every 1 min with kingsbane / dm+kingsbane

[royal lantern]

assa is a burst spec rn

you do your burst on opener, then drop, get a small gain again at 1min, the drop again and spike to full burst dmg at the 2min mark

repeat

[barren yarrow]

Ok I figured that was the case. I mean overall It felt good playing sin again in raid. Was playing havoc DH which imo just is too much.

[royal lantern]

delete momentum

[barren yarrow]

Yeah fr. I mean it hits like a truck but just wasn’t what I wanted to play.

[barren yarrow]

Also it doesn’t say it but how does garrote generate energy? Is that the talent tree going to work?

[spice surge]

Venomous wounds, at the top of the tree

[barren yarrow]

OK gotcha yeah I’m not at my computer right now. I’m at work so just reading the wild head guide and trying to piece it all together.

Wowhead

[thorn fjord]

@spice surge mind helping me out rq?

or @vestal wren

[vestal wren]

whats your question?

[thorn fjord]

Trying to sim BSL with my kit

but the advance sim is giving me a hard time with output

[gusty mirage]

dragonflight.blue_silken_lining_uptime (scope: global; default: 0.4; min: 0.0; max: 1.0)

[thorn fjord]

its more to see which pieces i should craft it to

[gusty mirage]

neck/bracers/belt

or ring if you don't care enough about the shield from the broodkeeper ring

[thorn fjord]

Im def not getting BK ring

going for Boon tomorrow

[gusty mirage]

could get it in vault

[thorn fjord]

This is true

[gusty mirage]

but jewelery > bracers + belt

in terms of ilvl importance

[grim jay]

Also wouldnt go boon unless you really like it

[gusty mirage]

so if you don't care about the ring at all

just send it on a ring and your neck

[spice surge]

Probably easier to do it in top gear than advanced

[vestal wren]

just use top gear instead of advanced sim

[gusty mirage]

ye

definitely a lot less fucking annoying

and faster

[thorn fjord]

i do

[spice surge]

Can swap stats via the "+" i highlighted as well

[vestal wren]

can also just use the text files pinned in #tc-research to get the items

[thorn fjord]

so paste from text file into top gear?

[vestal wren]

yes, but you might want to use the reduced set

[gusty mirage]

I would highly recommend going through that entire text and removing the slots you don't care about

or just top gear it

[vestal wren]

and do as eleem say add silken to it via the +

[spice surge]

Probably faster to just topgear it rather than trimming the .txt file

[gusty mirage]

as someone who has trimmed that text file before

it definitely is

[vestal wren]

wdym

the reduced one works fine

the complete one tho

[gusty mirage]

we didn't have a trimmed one in season 1 sir

[vestal wren]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-waiting-buffering-gif-15460501

[vestal wren]

fair

[gusty mirage]

I started learning the ids for the dif items by the time I was done with it

[thorn fjord]

Its the second pin in tc-research right?

[vestal wren]

just copy/paste below your /simc

then + to add silken to the slot you want

the low stat slots are typically good

so belt, bracers, boots, ring

[gusty mirage]

(neck too)

cause all the raid necks are kinda stinky

[vestal wren]

true

[thorn fjord]

i think i did it right? waiting for sim to finish

I also want to craft a crit/verse ring for M+

bleh

Shouldnt even bother tbh none of it matters

[gusty mirage]

you can always slap blue silken on a crit/vers ring

and use it for all 3 specs

ig

all embellishments suck anyway

it won't matter if you're using it on outlaw

[nimble zinc]

why boon for assa?

ashes + grieftorch is typically bis

also i like the broodkeeper ring bc it goes all the way up to 535

[gusty mirage]

for keys

because he's a degenerate

[grim jay]

Kinda brave to use those words in the presence of a mod

[gusty mirage]

you know where you can put that carrot sir?

[grim jay]

Only if you took a shower today

[gusty mirage]

in a juicer so you can get some beta carotene you silly goose

[grim jay]

I totally had that in mind

But I got my vita pills

No issues there

[gusty mirage]

I'll kiss you on the mouth if you sass me again

[grim jay]

Threat or promise

[gusty mirage]

yes

[thorn fjord]

Facts

Also i dont play Sin in keys

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-kiss-gif-10677208

[thorn fjord]

I love boon

Best trinket DF

[toxic olive]

nah take torch every day over it

torch prevented me from going insane early rasz prog, people dying left right and center in P1 and at least i got to fire the fucker a couple of times before jumping of platform

[thorn fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/11wU4t5npfUGYQMooWY2ha

@gusty mirage thats alot of work for 1.4%

[kind forge]

everytime i see a cow rogue i just wanna throw up 😦

[thorn fjord]

moo

[kind forge]

🐮

[thorn fjord]

I have /moo macro'd to DM ADR and SB

[kind forge]

[thorn fjord]

So everybody knows its coming

[kind forge]

oh boy

[fallen arch]

Mine just says PI PI PI PI

[thorn fjord]

My PI bot is the best bot

I send him treats and sweet messages every raid night

[clever sapphire]

aight i can officially confirm, internal bleeding is not the play, not even in a low key

[shy pecan]

I was wondering wtf you were adding that to lol

Also Tauren rogues are great. Biggest model going stealth and no one seeing them

[thorn fjord]

lol glad you noticed

[clever sapphire]

+3 academy with only 2 dps because a mage left after he died a pull (i was legit spamming rupture as much as i could and always keeping it up on every mob)

it was fun to experiment but not having spatter was sadge

[thorn fjord]

i could have told you that lol

Why would you do that to yourself

[clever sapphire]

im bored

[thorn fjord]

Fair

[next dust]

When u add an extra affix to the table cause playing low keys as sin isn’t enough

[clever sapphire]

low keys as sin is fine

sudden demise deletes everything

also it was pretty fun to be more focused on spreading bleeds constantly instead of spattering off of one mob and calling it a day

[spice surge]

Ye sin is fine in low keys, just dont play the cleave build that doesnt function unless the targets live your entire kb

[clever sapphire]

i dont think i could play a low key with any build besides the shock build

you might as well just go full ST at that point

tbf this is never gonna happen, but if internal bleeding did more dmg or interracted more on the amount of ruptures up would be pretty fun. For like keys where there arent many big targets, playstyle wise this was much more engaging than spatter go brrr

[thorn fjord]

its 60 crests for 525 crafted right?

[silver crag]

Yes

[thorn fjord]

That’s too rich for my blood atm

Guess I gotta wait for reclear tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/curses-foiled-again-he-man-meh-skeleto-gif-16546096

[nimble zinc]

until it kills you because you can't move out of a mechanic

[gusty mirage]

you can still shadowstep

[thorn fjord]

yeah double step makes that a non issue

Pulls are pretty static at this point too so you guage the right times to send

[spice spire]

Step evasion cloak

You die it’s on u at this point

[thorn fjord]

Nah always blame the healer tbh

[shy pecan]

If it’s a healer you know, for sure blame the healer

[thorn fjord]

gg's Saturday btw @shy pecan I was pretty toasted

Had fun

[shy pecan]

How was the Taco Bell?

[thorn fjord]

Hit the spot... Knocked out on the couch lol

[rotund oak]

now there are rogues whispering ingame for stats n stuff

i feel like im gonna tell them go from rogue discord

they literally wanna copy my stats

[nimble zinc]

this is probably why i swapped from healer to rogue

[shy pecan]

[rotund oak]

soon u will understand that for everything its the rogue's fault

[thorn fjord]

My guild blames everything on me

[rotund oak]

same,u wanna blame anyone,blame the rogue

[thorn fjord]

I got yelled at for DCing on a Dathia pull... They wiped at like 3% and blamed me for not having the dmg

[rotund oak]

bro,i was benched and theyve blamed me for adds free casting

like

[thorn fjord]

Checks out

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

tell them the rule we all live by

34% critrate

[rotund oak]

ive stacked vers/mast

dont rly care about stats

for some reason ppl get hyped watching me blow up packs with 1.5mil dps

worship me for absolutely no reason

[grim jay]

could be 2m if you had 34% crit

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/nobodys-gonna-know-laura-noury-always-jane-no-one-will-know-just-between-us-gif-23770282

[rotund oak]

true,i just hate dying to random sht

37+% vers

actually my sub gear

[hot vortex]

yo do we have a sweet spot for haste rating we should be aiming for?

[spice surge]

No

Theres no breakpoints of anything, just get ilvl

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[hot vortex]

thank you

I've been following the quick rec and just really pushing mastery/crit mastery/haste

about to start trying out mythic keys and see what happens

[thorn fjord]

I’m statistically not having a good time

[silk bane]

show us the stats, proof or didnt happen

[gusty mirage]

he does keys regularly

that should be enough proof

[silk bane]

oh... i... i didnt know

im sorry to hear that

thoughts and prayers

[thorn fjord]

Pick your poison

Un buffed of course

[silk bane]

sorry im a spriest 1 trcik now. i dont speak in sub 40% haste language

[thorn fjord]

haste

[silk bane]

mind blast go brrrrrr

just gimme 10 minutes to farm my tier stacks before the key, so we can brick on first pull and repeat

[thorn fjord]

Doing gods work

My m+ gear set is still using a 489 ring 😩

[silk bane]

thats a rogue classic.

sylv daggers.

fuckign 10.0.5 ring

earnog ring

banger stuff

[thorn fjord]

The igira ring too stronk... Hasnt dropped for us in mythic in S4 yet 😦

Prob craft a ring tomorrow though

[silk bane]

gl gl

[gusty mirage]

10.0.7 ring ackshually

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-so-much-eric-cartman-south-park-s14e7-cripple-summer-gif-22862953

jk i love you <3<3

[gusty mirage]

you telling me you didn't remember how iconic zskera vault was?

it was a "randomized treasure room"!

with so many puzzles, monsters, and mysteries!

wow!

[thorn fjord]

That ring was based

[slate crown]

Omg zskera vaults that was a thing and then suddenly wasn’t

[silk bane]

i liked the first and only time i did that place. that was a fun time

[bronze pike]

i was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited to go back to get taivan

truly i was

:)

[gusty mirage]

I hecking love the casual content of df

I love killing 200 mobs at every rotating elemental storm

esp when its fire 5 times in a row

[bronze pike]

my favorite part were the random rotating fishing holes

[gusty mirage]

omg you too?

or the forbidden reach treasures!

make sure you use this 30 minute buff

oh and 2 people can't loot the same treasure!

[bronze pike]

:D

[gusty mirage]

very fucking cool

[bronze pike]

grinding in that one frost area for upward 3 hours to get all the hidden scrolls

FUN :D

AND THEN FINDING THEM IN THE MAP

SO FUN

[gusty mirage]

idk how they managed to make something worse than veilstrider

where you had to do ember court for 8 weeks

but you know

they fucking figured it out

[bronze pike]

the camera quests wer ecool tho

i liked those, not trollin

[runic hinge]

Nat pagle

[gusty mirage]

oh I still haven't finished that one

[runic hinge]

Eluded me

[gusty mirage]

still waiting for my 2 quests to spawn

[runic hinge]

For weeeks

[bronze pike]

natpagel was a pain ya

[gusty mirage]

thank god it's been occulus every WQ reset for 3 weeks

oh and I keep missing A.Z.E.R.O.T.H. for the time rift

so that's fucking cool

[thorn fjord]

Are you excited for the Aug release @gusty mirage

Or is the dream dead

[gusty mirage]

aug release for what

[thorn fjord]

war within

[gusty mirage]

oh

lmfao

yeah man

see you there

[thorn fjord]

I was hoping it would be later in sept

On the fence about raiding... But like fomo and all that... Its hard to quit

[gusty mirage]

it's really easy

you just stop logging in

[thorn fjord]

But then i would actually have to pick up my guitar at home 😦

[gusty mirage]

literally anything else

you could jerk off with sandpaper and you'd enjoy it more

[thorn fjord]

lolol

[devout mist]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[shy pecan]

Or play something like PoE 🙂

[runic hinge]

Or I could play wow

[gusty mirage]

honestly I'm considering traffic

seems like a fun game

some irl frogger

ya know

[shy pecan]

[runic hinge]

[silk bane]

bros min maxing traffic so he can tell his RL he couldnt make it back home in time so he can be sat and not have to play wow

so real for that

respect

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/hannibal-buress-right-booing-gif-13861878

[runic hinge]

I really enjoy playing wow so idk

[gusty mirage]

what if I really enjoy playing in traffic

judgy mcjudgerson

[runic hinge]

That's fair

I enjoyed Korthia tho, so who's really down bad?

[grim jay]

dang

thats tough

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[grim jay]

I immediately felt a burning sensation

[runic hinge]

is this about korthia?

[grim jay]

I wouldnt even have remembered it if you didnt mention it

[brazen gyro]

I read the wowhead guide, for aoe, after we apply garrotes, do we stick on the same target the whole time due to caustic splatter? or do we switch around to apply ruptures?

[high jetty]

Depends on the build

[runic hinge]

IC has smart targeting so as long as you're in the ten second window you can apply rupture to your main target and it'll spread

[silk bane]

yea

[brazen gyro]

This one

[high jetty]

With that build you just want enough ruptures out to sustain energy

If you have deathmark for the pack you only need one rupture

If you do not, I like 3 ish

Either way, IC covers you

Assuming you get a stealth between packs

[brazen gyro]

so I never tab target rupture essentially, only garrotte in the initial opener if there are lets say like 6 targets

[high jetty]

If you play the right side of the tree, you do that

But with that build, you do not

CPs are better spent on envenom for spatter damage

[clever sapphire]

also i wouldnt recommend that build on any key under around 12-15

[brazen gyro]

would you say do the wowhead crimson tempest build? also is there a SS of what whispyrs afenar weak aura edit looks like?

[thorn fjord]

looks the same as the normal one but has different glows for buffed Gar/Rupture and the likes

Little blue lined box

[clever sapphire]

i would suggest the shock build

where you go the left and right sides

because in low keys you rarely have mobs that can live your cooldown

so you dont really get spatter value, and that build you posted fully goes into spatter value

[grim jay]

didnt he change some CDs it tracks aswell?

[thorn fjord]

That im not 100% sure on

[hexed frost]

At what keystone level does the cleave build really start to outshine the bleedmaxxing build?

[silver crag]

Basically any key that mobs can live through your Deathmark. Which is party relative

[hexed frost]

+10 or >+15

[brazen gyro]

does anyone have whispyrs rogue armory? I couldnt find it. Its crazy how much better rogues disc/wowhead/icyveins guides are better than other classes

seem very lucky with great theorycrafters

[gusty mirage]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/whíspyr there ya go friend

[brazen gyro]

did he take a s4 break

[gusty mirage]

he did

[clever sapphire]

yap

[gusty mirage]

I believe he did a few raid reclears for people's mounts

and then yeeted off to maplestory land

[clever sapphire]

ruby around 12 i would say, with a better group its gonna be like 14-15s atleast (on any other key)

[gusty mirage]

esp with thunderfuck and flame gullet

[hexed frost]

[gusty mirage]

but if your tank includes flame goolay in the route they're mentally ill

and you should call in a wellness check for them

[clever sapphire]

i dont think i ever played that guy above an 8

[hexed frost]

I run with a ret pala sometimes, his burst brings mobs to 30% hp and then they insta die to bleed

He's like what the fcuk happened am I rubberbanding

[pulsar dirge]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[grim jay]

cant even say its particularly better

its different

[hexed frost]

Yeah I know

[fallen arch]

I think it’s better cause you have more st/boss damage

And at some point that is what matters

[grim jay]

its debatable

if your group particularly struggles with bosses, sure

[clever sapphire]

sometimes i enjoy cleave more because i can just delete 1 mob each pull

so i just choose a mob that i hate or thats gonna wipe us the easiest and kill it

and on bolstering where thats even better i like it even more

[sand lichen]

quick question to experts, should I play flaring cowl in m+ or should I stick to 2 bsls?

blue silken linings

[royal lantern]

cowl is bad

with a big B

[upper coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-thumb-up-works-for-me-gif-16493565840851327471

[thorn fjord]

Bring out the silk daddy

[queen egret]

how do you guys play totem boss in ulda on +16s ?

[ruby birch]

group dependent, try to send cds into boss such that you can splash the latter half of KB onto the totem

if you find your group lacking damage

try to hold vanishes just for totem damage

obviously hold grieftorch for it as well

it shouldnt be that bad though, you can live through it being up for a bit

[sonic zinc]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• You can add in some sanguine/rupture value from carnage, but chaining allows for higher uptime and smoother energy overall, eliminating a lot of ramp at the start of a pull
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths (chain heavy spiteful weeks are only about -30% on stealths)
• You still have vanish and shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[glass hemlock]

Is cleave the DTB build?

[clever sapphire]

there are 2 dtb builds, but its the one without crimson tempest

[glass hemlock]

Oh right hahaha, I just have the one from wowhead

Been using the shock build and want to try dtb

[clever sapphire]

there are 3 on wowhead im pretty sure

cleave/hybrid/shock

[balmy condor]

Too many fucking builds man

Left side, right side, no middle

CT, no CT

[clever sapphire]

i dont mind the variety

also i confirmed today that internal bleeding is bad even in low keys (3 academy)

but it was fun

[runic hinge]

Ib didn’t feel terrible in super low keys in s3

[clever sapphire]

well i assumed a 3 academy would be super low

but it wasnt

[dark token]

3 actually

Pls play AP shock in low keys people are cleaving themselves to bottom of the meters in a +3

"cleave build is pog"

U press KB and mob dead in 2s

[clever sapphire]

wait 3?

ah ye you sent some weird sim build

[runic hinge]

The cursed one without amp

[dark token]

Its not weird if it's the best simming

And makes sense for higher keys

You don't want SD as much but you still want CT

[clever sapphire]

people seem to forget that SD also gives you bleed dmg, not only the execute part

[dark token]

Ye but that isn't as good as DTB

[brazen gyro]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[neon lodge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[real pike]

the new m+ updates seem pretty badly thought out in general but my god I am glad spiteful is gone

[dark token]

It was the 2nd best of the t2 affixes lol

Barely affected rogue due to evasion + crippling poison

Now we have bolstering (lol) sanguine (cringe) raging (disgusting op on one random pack that will wipe u)

Bursting and spiteful were chilling in comparison

[fallen arch]

I don’t think I agree

Spiteful can be omega punishing

[earnest remnant]

[shy pecan]

[shell quartz]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[cinder geode]

any of yall leather workers that can recraft something for me

i chose the wrong faction for stormrage and ts is dead

[slate crown]

Make a cross faction alt

ask in trade chat there

then log over when you find someone

[cinder geode]

did that and still nothing

[slate crown]

rip

[cinder geode]

idk where all the leather workers went lol

[runic hinge]

No money in the leather stand

[slate crown]

are you crazy, there was money in that leather stand

[rotund oak]

the atlantic ocean maybe

[glass hemlock]

Do you guys use Meld as a restealth for damage or just the usual meld to avoid mechanics

[balmy condor]

most use it for a restealth

and then bitch when it doesn't work

[glass hemlock]

😂😂

Do you need to meld then stealth or can just meld into garrote etc

[balmy condor]

meld then stealth

[steel parrot]

Hey, does assa has like tons of buttons to press? I just made a remix toon and saw the spec tree is almost all passives

I wanna get into the class, but kinda afraid of high buttons specs

[balmy condor]

does this scare you

if no, you're good to go

if you go "man that's a lot"

then bit questionable

if you're going to do any m+ for example, the entire bottom row is rotational

[clever sapphire]

where ambush keybind reeee

[balmy condor]

it's bound to 1 in stealth

[clever sapphire]

but what about blindside procs, imagine not pressing your blindside key still

how could you

[steel parrot]

Cant say hahaha, i will just try it

[royal lantern]

yes

you have throwing knife bound

and your mount is not random favorite mount

actual Psychopath behaivor

[balmy condor]

it's beta

I have literally 3 mounts

tf do you want me to favorite

[royal lantern]

@gusty mirage

[balmy condor]

why do you have to ping oxi for that

are you stupid

[steel parrot]

Btw @balmy condor did u play outlaw anytime? How is the hotbar looking? I like the dual swords style but heard its complex and APM intensive

[balmy condor]

I tested it a little for trickster

it's like 1 or 2 buttons less

but the APM is much higher

cause outlaw is the poster child of APM

[steel parrot]

Well i will try assa and see if it clicks me

Looks cool ngl

[grim jay]

Sounds like im one aswell

[royal lantern]

yes

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-coffin-just-woke-up-wwe-gif-5289384

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-bed-turn-over-gif-24736291

[toxic olive]

For leveling in remix if you wanna do open world and questing stuff, Assa is the way to go. Both Sub and Outlaw you need a lot of talents deep into the trees to make them work. Else your constantly resource starved. Assa you get early access to a talent that refunds energy when mobs die which makes the spec play much better in comparison

[strong wing]

How do you guys track party's cds for m+?

Which addon do you use or aura

[limber lion]

OmniCD

[strong wing]

Ty

Default settings should be good right?

or do i have to do changes

[steel parrot]

Ohh nice, ty

[dark token]

Not rly i recommend you setup a profile or copy from streamer

To show the abilities you care about

[sharp viper]

those bars are so empty, looks like dh

[rotund oak]

bro has less macros than my last general macro line in general macro tab

[boreal ginkgo]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[primal jolt]

hello doomers

im a proud shaman main now

the rogue community has definitely lost one of its weakest links 💪

why play a shitty class when you can play a shittier class

[grim jay]

Thats kinda true

But I admit shaman is fun

[thorn fjord]

[royal lantern]

i hope the wind furys around you

or something like that

idk

place the totem

[primal jolt]

im stroking my totems rn

they're gonna be the shiniest totems in azeroth

[slate crown]

!details @candid goblet

[prisma monolith]

To stop details from resetting on vanish, go into the settings and under Overall Data, make sure "Use Dynamic Overall Damage" is checked.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1173432355785027584/details_vanish.png

[primal jolt]

ever since i rolled shaman

my hair went gray

and i aged 50+ years immediately

because all shaman players are graying old men

[thorn fjord]

nah

All shaman players are Furries

[thorn fjord]

Another doodoo vault

Got a fragment but im not playing sub

[vestal wren]

this is your oppotunity to embrace the change and becoame member of the exclusive #subtlety club

[thorn fjord]

I took sockets

[vestal wren]

[thorn fjord]

Feel like we’re gonna end up playing sub tier one war within so I’m gonna pass on it for the time being

[vestal wren]

why do you think so

atm all things point to assassination

[autumn frost]

i went with the ourobo neck

Also finally bullioned the cape

[thorn fjord]

Orly?

😏

It always ends up being a sub angle tho

[vestal wren]

tell me you did start playing dragonflight without telling

[thorn fjord]

i feel like i played more sub this expansion than i did sin

[spice spire]

Blocked

[thorn fjord]

Wasnt my fault man

Ok wait might be wrong... All sin for S2 but mostly sub for S1 and S3 was Sin up to Smold then the rest sub

So i guess it was a toss up

But we had more pulls on swift and Fyraak than all of S1 prog and pretty close to S2... so i played alot of sub lol

[vestal wren]

don't be like that

[spice spire]

I’m a hater

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire i never let you down

[woeful delta]

hello everyone I’m new here but I’m a baby assassin rogue looking for advice. I’m not max gear but I feel like I barely do enough damage to finish people off (my opener with bleeds applied get them close to death) but then I just get zugged and murdered. I feel like PvP is over within the first 15 seconds usually, especially for me because without kings name or death mark up I can’t output as much as I should be.

I also just don’t know what to do against BM hunters and wind walkers ): I’m just slowed until I die even with CDs

[spice surge]

The spec channels of this discord are focused on pve, youll likely have more success copying your message over into #pvp

[autumn frost]

Where's the aoe blind

[woeful delta]

thank you 💗!

[royal lantern]

sub doing sub stuff

[autumn frost]

What is sim default for raidbots for runes

talking about buzzing runes and such

[vestal wren]

buzzing is default

[royal lantern]

"omg its not that good"

patch releases, 2 weeks later

sub: 💅

[autumn frost]

Thanks fuu

[vestal wren]

you mean beeing ignored till the last minute, then somehow trying to fix the mess

[royal lantern]

yes

"ah shit that thing exists, give a random ability +30% dmg"

[vestal wren]

its more like

"oh shit sin is 10% above everyone in wcl statistics" - nerf

subtlety being unnerfed: 👋 hello fellow players, wana play?

but devs might know now, so maybe not this time

[royal lantern]

[vestal wren]

not sure if thats a positive

[wheat lodge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

i just want a single tier that doesnt end up with "ooooppps, sub again" after 3 weeks cus its miles ahead of the others

[vestal wren]

so season 2

or season 4

[tacit charm]

are there any stat threshold you need for sin? or no

[vestal wren]

(could argue s3 too, but well)

[slate crown]

no get ilvl

[vestal wren]

no

[tacit charm]

ok ty

[vestal wren]

you usually try to balance out your stats, as le mentioned item level is usually a important factor

[tacit charm]

these are my stats rn, none of them too far into 10% dr, but was just wondering

[slate crown]

I couldn't tell you my stats rn, I have literally no idea

[tacit charm]

ok

[rotund oak]

for m+ im going with 23% crit 13% haste 89% mast/37% vers but thats pretty much my sub gear

there is something of a thing for sin

crit around 30-34%

but i dont think it matters alot if u arent into high pushing n stuff

[autumn frost]

The best in slot gear comparison sim died

link

[rotund oak]

[shy pecan]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[rotund oak]

branch is so last season

[shy pecan]

[thorn fjord]

This man gets it

[tacit charm]

yea I also need my 2nd BSL

[autumn frost]

THe amount of mastery you get from bsl also depends on ilvl

[rotund oak]

yup the higher the better

[thorn fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8FPj5hqdLrLDaGWjqKnyNB

the 1% isnt worth bricking my OL set atm... gotta wait longer =/

[rotund oak]

might try to swap to more crit tbh but i love that im very tanky

i press feint and i feel so much safer

[royal lantern]

behind stupid unfunny memes, endless dooming and overreactions, im not THAT stupid sometimess

[autumn frost]

Looking at your sim backdoorpush it looks like I'll be getting rid of my brez

If i want to bridge the 11k dps difference

Well 7k

[shy pecan]

That’s not a good way to go about it. Your access to gear will differ from his.

[autumn frost]

At this point my gear is nearing completion. Although I forgot I can socket my helm.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nKNuVaa5ZKKsyteo58BVNJ

I could put in 525 crafted life-bound leggings as is

and put on it also the food thingie

alchemical flavor packet

[thorn fjord]

I wont be able to add double BSL for another 2 weeks

But the dmg difference is negligable tbh

Im taking boon this week from bullion 💪

More drunky keys this weekend @shy pecan

[shy pecan]

lol if I’m around sure

[thorn fjord]

i was a fan of your DK homie

He gased me up and was a solid tank

[autumn frost]

what did you use your 4 crafted items on dieslow

[shy pecan]

He was panicking in a lot of those keys lol

[thorn fjord]

I have 4 shards in my bag atm... I made Toxic Boots and Patch bracers

But i multi spec

[autumn frost]

Ah that makes sense

[thorn fjord]

I can make 1 bsl and just run with it but meh

[clever sapphire]

dont forget that dieslow simmed with pi

you didnt

[autumn frost]

oooh

that's a huge difference

[thorn fjord]

yeah you're shitting on my non PI sim lol

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tBBrdC8CGQ3WmhZN9zy3ww

[autumn frost]

I was confused

i was like I think ih ave better gear

How can I eke out more damage

[thorn fjord]

With double BSL i should be about the same as you

[autumn frost]

I got lied to when i got my nick of time

i signed up for hard mode

we killed the normal boss so quickly we didn't even realize it wasn't hard mode

😦

[pseudo hamlet]

How hard is the "hard mode"? I mean compared to M+?

[autumn frost]

it's like a 10

things will oneshot if you mess up mechanics

[austere sorrel]

Sometimes ya just gotta learn the hard (easy mode) way

[autumn frost]

Definitely do go into hard mode undergeared

the second boss

make sure to stay in the dark zone

unless you've got the debuff that needs to be cleansed

that has to be cleaned in the fast mode.

but there's two debuffs out and if the other cleanse goes off and you're in the fast area you might die

need the dr

[clever sapphire]

i mean thats how it was last season

nothing changed but now there is a frontal

[autumn frost]

I didn't really play last season

[thorn fjord]

smart man

[clever sapphire]

is he tho, playing this season but not last?

[thorn fjord]

progging swift and Fyraak was one of the shittiest things ive done in this game in a long time LMAO

[clever sapphire]

well that i cant argue with

[royal lantern]

500 pull boss followed by a 500 pulls boss is just

[thorn fjord]

yeah man it was really rough

more pulls on those 2 bosses than all of S1 prog combined

Is nuts

[royal lantern]

its just

80% of the raid is 10-30 pull bossses

nymue and fire keeper dude maybe a bit more

[autumn frost]

The important thing is you got it at the end

[boreal ginkgo]

Hi what loot specialization do yall use for assassination? I keep getting crit gears

[royal lantern]

then smoldy iss the first boss that actually gives some prog

followed by 2 500 pull bosses lol

[royal lantern]

?

loot spec is only for weapons and trinkets

and trinketss are the same for all 3 specs anway

[thorn fjord]

Smoldy was still a <150 pull boss tho

This tier was wild

[boreal ginkgo]

Oh i didnt know it only affects weapons and trinket drops. All right

[thorn fjord]

Sin/Sub net you only daggers... OL will only be Axe,Sword,Fist

[royal lantern]

(aka the weapons the specs use)

[thorn fjord]

OL cant pull daggers unfort

[thorn fjord]

BUT OL CAN USE DAGGER IN OH WYM

[clever sapphire]

we took less pulls for both of those than for council

[royal lantern]

man

council

man

[clever sapphire]

yap

sums it up

[thorn fjord]

This council was easy bro

[royal lantern]

yes but

its a council

the golden rule of council fights

first half of the raid? they are annoying, the deeper you go to the end of the first half, the more annoying it is

2nd half of the raid? pure BS

[clever sapphire]

i only enjoyed the S1 council

S2 was legit hold dps

[thorn fjord]

Cries in dance macabre

[royal lantern]

ye, cus itss the 2nd boss of the raid

[clever sapphire]

more so because they were together so i could dmg all 4

[royal lantern]

antorus coven still gives me nightmares if i think about it

[hollow nimbus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[gilded oasis]

!aw

damn

[tropic pike]

!rotation

[gilded oasis]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[clever sapphire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[lofty acorn]

Should I be using Crimson Tempest on CD in AoE pulls?

First time play Assass

[vestal wren]

chrimson tempest has no cooldown

but no, you typically only use it to re-apply the dot

[lofty acorn]

I guess thats what I meant

[thorn fjord]

I wouldn’t even bother taking ct

[vestal wren]

the guides will go more in detail, e.g. the one posted just above

[lofty acorn]

It feels better in pugs I think

Less tab targety for big pulls

I also kinda feel like caustic spatter and bleed spreading contradict each other too.

[thorn fjord]

Idc does allot of the leg work

IC sorry

[lofty acorn]

Indiscriminate Carnage?

[grim jay]

not really tbf

it just limits how much you dot

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[tame mantle]

is the kingsbane bug accounted for in aoe sims?

[errant swallow]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1181335994256064623/dagger.webp

[errant swallow]

Basically they all suck, now I remember.

[thorn fjord]

Speed will set you free

[grim jay]

?

[tame mantle]

you get kingsbane stacks when you apply poison to any target

doesnt have to be the kingsbane target

[grim jay]

the question is

why would that matter for the sim

sim assumes perfect play

so you stay on your main target anyways

[tame mantle]

i mean it does more dmg

and gives talents like TP more value

[grim jay]

it does just the same if you stay on your main target

that has kb

you dont get any real benefit

[tame mantle]

i mean

it will do slightly more damage

[grim jay]

you spread into cds on your main target

idk the poison applications on the other targets in aoe

should be rather minor

compared to the stacks you get from AA with SND

[tame mantle]

ye ye im not claiming its MAJOR or anything

im just curious if its accounted for

[grim jay]

I doubt it, whispyr is sleeping probably

might wanna ask @vestal wren

he might know the answer

[tame mantle]

wait is whispyr na or eu

[cinder geode]

what happened to all raids being awakened?

i thought after week 7 all 3 should be awakened

[thorn fjord]

na

[spice surge]

They initially said 2 weeks of vault > 2 weeks of abberrus > 2 weeks of amirdrassil > all awakened but then they changed their mind to have it be on a weekly rotation instead

[thorn fjord]

some of us still need our mount 😠

[cinder geode]

sadge

[amber lark]

anyone know what buff to get with cruel dreamcarver?

[violet jackal]

whichever you want

I chose elemental

[thorn fjord]

SPEED BOY

[spice surge]

Dont think so, i havent heard anybody ever mention it, so im not even sure its widely known about

I didnt know about it until i read your message, but its possible im just a silly goober and the other theorycrafters knows about it

[amber lark]

is Nick of time at 522 better then a 528 OH?

[thorn fjord]

Yeah

[amber lark]

ok cool ty

[vestal wren]

whispyr is na, i am eu

i missed the commit if its implemented

[thorn fjord]

@vestal wren dont front bro you QT

[latent copper]

wht do you play on rly high keys in brackenhide Totem?. Today the key was rly close and i guess i needed more ST dmg

[woeful meteor]

play torch, if you dont already do, pool energy for it and use 1 shiv. You kinda suck for totem dmg

[latent copper]

i did but the 16 took long time....we timed but that was rly hard and many deaths there and i rly guess i suck here. Same with crystals. So saving shiv, every small cd and otherwise grief?

[woeful meteor]

ye

you need to coordinate as a group who uses cds when, but since your CDs are on 1 Target and ramp you are kinda fucked

since using on totem kills your boss dmg

[latent copper]

and if boss is next to totem its as well too less dmg right?

[grim jay]

its kinda fine if the tank moves the boss and you rupture/garrote the totem aswell

[woeful meteor]

no way just rupturing will be enough at some point

[grim jay]

yeah well you dont "just rupture" if you spatter cleave with full cds

[woeful meteor]

ah you mean during cds I guess that's true

[grim jay]

yeah, if you dont have any you gotta swap for real

shock build is pretty good with totem tho

my higher brackenhide keys were with a frost mage and shadow tho

frost can do totems decently well

[gaunt mortar]

on yalls personal opinon whats the better rogue spec right now for M+ > Sin or Outlaw ?

[autumn frost]

Can we get an updated sim link for
Since it's now broken?

I liked that list and still reference it

[slate crown]

What is broken?

[balmy condor]

The sim timed out

[slate crown]

Oh you mean the sim link, thought you meant a change to an item or something

[balmy condor]

I ain’t redoing it though

[spice surge]

Just get 2x blue silken lining, get the ring, get ashes and call it a day

[slate crown]

At this point so many bullions

you can just get all the stuff

I think you actually can at this point, you can do 2x trinkets 2x rings and mainhand by this point?

[balmy condor]

Ye

No need to compare if you get everything

[cinder geode]

I just got back from a 3ish month break, are people taking breaks until TWW? For some reason it seems like there are just a lot less players

there are a lot less m+ listings and raid listings on stormrage at least, I can't seem to find that many groups

[spice surge]

Raids are cross realm either way, but yes, theres fewer players during fated and also fewer players during summer

[vestal wren]

the season has little new things, people currently seem to be less engaged as a consequence

but the pandaria timerunning mode is still popular

[cinder geode]

unfortunate, i wanted to try and do some mythic raids during awakened

[vestal wren]

many guilds might search for players

[cinder geode]

The issue currently is i cant get geared without any groups lol, im not gonna get recruited

[cinder grove]

!dagger

[prisma monolith]

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