assassination

[spice spire]

Remove the last three words.
And for me? No I do not think

[winged sun]

it was a general statement but ok

[simple gulch]

This isn’t the audience

Zeross

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[runic hinge]

General statement

[runic hinge]

Not replying directly about it

[spice spire]

Okay but fr kids.
Have a good night be safe and be nice to each other

[runic hinge]

You can't make me

[winged sun]

gn dog guy

dude ur dog looks like a professor in harvard

gn tho

[simple gulch]

No u

[winged sun]

No u x2

[simple gulch]

Zero

Do you play sin

I need sin gear to play it, I have outlaw gear all over

Nothing good for sin

[winged sun]

u do not want to see my sin ui man

it got scuffed this patch

i only see shiv and vanish

rest all disappeared

[balmy condor]

Tf happened in here to make quake logout irl

[winged sun]

i'll fix it later

[winged sun]

idk bed time

[balmy condor]

I’m scared to scroll up

[simple gulch]

Zeross kinda went off the rails

Boomer stuff

[balmy condor]

That’s why I’m scared to scroll up

[winged sun]

dude

i didnt read the whole thing ok

if ur scared dont

its ok to stay safe

[blazing jewel]

zeross can you go back to the bear pfp and have 3 hour conversations wtih zac

that was a good arc

[winged sun]

soon soon

or now

ok

[blazing jewel]

it was like french bear was talking to his bear son

[winged sun]

lmao

[simple gulch]

Does our 4p help with energy gen

Also, 4p doesn’t seem that strong in aoe

[balmy condor]

I’m mostly scared cause I’d find some reason to mute you and I’m not really in the mood to moderate right now cause I’m at work

Just

Be normal

For like 2 hours

I beg

[simple gulch]

Damn

[grim pawn]

When putting non opener cds following some downtime on the boss (post Nymue intermission or Tindral supernova for example), is it best to still set up an initial Garrote and Rupture outside of cds or just get SnD and Envenom up and go into cd window?

[brazen zodiac]

have fun at work 😄

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-you-just-be-normal-youre-weird-stop-it-chill-out-wtf-gif-12213994

[lyric silo]

Has anyone simmed branch and embersoul trinket where you branch DM and embersoul the 1min KB?

[slate crown]

No, 4p does not interact with energy regen

[balmy condor]

That’s how the sim should be playing branch + ashes already

[lyric silo]

Oh I haven't tried yet, thank you!

[balmy condor]

Double on use generally just sucks

[crude dove]

which build would u guys recommend to run this week for low 16s? hybrid or the arterial shock one?

[wispy apex]

Is it alright to bind dance/kb on single target fights?

[willow vine]

AP build

[slate crown]

yes, dance first

[neat plank]

I'm surprised ass it ahead of outlaw on subcreation on a spiteful week

is*

[wispy apex]

I meant macroing dance/kb. You’re saying i should put dance as the first /cast?

[steady glen]

yes

[slate crown]

Yes that's what I mean. You can macro them together, and make sure dance is the first line

[wispy apex]

Okay thanks

[eternal heath]

I cri

[pliant tapir]

quick question: does kingsbane damage apply to caustic spatter, ive just noiced today that sometimes spatter crits for like 400k and i can' think of any other reason?

[slate crown]

Yes kb gets spattered

[storm forum]

god i love spattering

[simple gulch]

Im spattering all over the couch

[pliant tapir]

awsome tyvm

[warped willow]

is the stat prio for m+ different than raid? if so which is which. i feel like i hear something different every day i'm trying to learn this spec haha

[slate crown]

!stats No

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Mast = Crit = Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs like Witherbark's Branch and Wafting Devotion can often de-value the stat in question. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

[mighty nexus]

wowhead guide is the gospel my brother

[clever sapphire]

Keep it up, not getting a restealth is worse for outlaw than it is for assa

[steel ridge]

Subcreation is garbage

[clever sapphire]

And that also

[simple gulch]

Spiteful week right when I got 4p on my outlaw

[lucid rain]

you mean 4p sin

[steel ridge]

Subcreation data is solely based upon logged keys… but millions of keys dont get logged.

[simple gulch]

It’s also 4p sub

[lucid rain]

we don't talk about sub

(it's actually good but I hate that it's not great at keys)

[icy acorn]

we only talk about sub when talking about smolderon

[solid mica]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund torrent]

Btw .. why sub instead assa on smolderon?

[lucid rain]

vanish cdr makes cooldowns line up perfectly with increased damage phases

[icy acorn]

because you have your cds on every intermission

[slate crown]

#subtlety message Armin buddy trying to prove you wrong

[lucid rain]

armin's a gamer, and I believe he can make it look good

but I'd like to see it on non spiteful

because you can farm the shit out of dmg on spiteful weeks

[urban rampart]

So I just had someone craft wrists with toxified armor patch, but the wrists say nothing about having the patch on them?

[runic hinge]

does it say this item is infused with decay?

[slate crown]

Are you sure you applied the patch in the order window?

[urban rampart]

Yes

[runic hinge]

That's the patch

[slate crown]

Then it's done

[urban rampart]

Ah ok ty

[misty holly]

Guy has already put that patch up on the AH, you were swindled!

[white lance]

Why is mastery shortened but versatility written out full

[icy acorn]

your ocd is showing

but valid point

[white lance]

Im weird like that

[quick axle]

hi guys for smolderon H, do yall use all 3 CDs (Deathmark, SD, KB) at the start and then (SD, KB) during intermission or the other way around?

[misty holly]

I tried doing every possible combination of when to use cooldowns on that fight and it always seemed wrong no matter which I chose.

[slate crown]

Sync DM with lust

If your group lusts on pull, dm on pull

[quick axle]

thanks

[slate crown]

if they hold for intermission 1, just do KB at pull and them dm + KB with intermission

[quick axle]

i assume KB + SD at pull?

[slate crown]

Yes

[quick axle]

okie dokie

[quick axle]

if thats the case, likely only to use DM once in the fight instead of 2 if use at the start. Is this worth it?

[slate crown]

I would think you'd get a 2nd DM at the end in execute, but i'm not sure

That was just the pattern I saw on lorrgs

[quick axle]

smoldie H maybe, not normal for sure

[slate crown]

IF you're blasting it that fast to not get a second after that then, idn

[quick axle]

alright thank you for the advise, i will try it out

[oak tangle]

LE do you know much about logs filtering with queries?

[slate crown]

Nope

[oak tangle]

thank you have a nice day 🙂

[simple gulch]

Why do so many of you have slice and dice in your icons next to your username

[lucid rain]

snd is a big meme

people were like "ree why do we have to have a button for it"

[oak tangle]

i mean big true

[slate crown]

Idn dude I'm just trying to play the game

[junior aurora]

sorry im still like that

yeet snd

[lucid rain]

I could not care less

[simple gulch]

unrelated but did anyone else think fan of knives meant that your character was a fan of knives, he liked them etc, not that it was literally a fan of knives lmao

[junior aurora]

[mighty nexus]

[simple gulch]

I am not a native english speaker

[lucid rain]

surprised you didn't think it was like

a fan that blows air

[simple gulch]

Maybe it is a double entendre

[lucid rain]

but it blows knives

[simple gulch]

it could work

at least SND is used once

[mighty nexus]

I’m just picturing a ceiling fan flinging knives now 💀

[simple gulch]

and can be extended forever

[simple gulch]

[runic hinge]

There was some loud people trying to get snd removed during the rework so some of us got the icon to mock and be ironic

[junior aurora]

remove snd

i still dont like it, its a button u press once per fight basically

[runic hinge]

For assa especially

Idk, I dont have a strong opinion on it

[junior aurora]

its even more annoying when you have to press it more than once lol

[runic hinge]

Flavor maitence buff

[lucid rain]

I remember seeing realz pvping people in the assassination-ptr channel

over slice and dice

[junior aurora]

its just a weird hill to die on

[misty holly]

snd was gone for 4 years.

[junior aurora]

and it can stay gone

[misty holly]

people liked not worrying about it

dunno why its back

[junior aurora]

bc they brought back classic spells for everybody

for better or worse

[misty holly]

it was a disaster in 9.0 until they bandaided with the talent to let it extend

figured FOR SURE its gone when new talent trees were announced for dragonflight

yet here we are for some reason

[livid mesa]

How much mastery do you guys have?

[flint tusk]

1<

[nova badge]

Guys, just played assa for the first time this tier. Feeling pretty good and my hands don’t hurt afterwards

[simple gulch]

isn't that small

[lucid rain]

I'm 476

[simple gulch]

nice

I am not

[lucid rain]

what I'm saying is that 56% mastery is fine

[simple gulch]

what's in like in numbers

5k?

[lucid rain]

4468

[simple gulch]

close enough

[lucid rain]

haste is 3528

[simple gulch]

im outlaw geared

[lucid rain]

crit is 5189

[simple gulch]

so i have very little mastery

[lucid rain]

ah makes sense

[simple gulch]

im gonna play outlaw for now

to get ssome mastery gear

[livid mesa]

tyty

[flint tusk]

People still not understanding we don’t stack stuff on assa.

[limber oyster]

I think that is what happens to me

[lunar meteor]

any1 looking at logs?

[limber oyster]

Always outlaw then switched to assa and i trust in sims but i see people between 50/55 mastery , 15/18 haste and 33/38 crit and i dont know what exactly to do

And im with 48 mastery because sims say its better to keep a ring with 1k vers lol

I still trying to understand assa, but for me by far its the most interesting spec

And funny, obv

[lucid rain]

you just get whatever sims highest

as long as it's not vers

[flint tusk]

Assa’s stats are just so close to each other.
Then slap the branch on and all your gear magically has the ‘wrong’ stats.
It’s quite nice actually not having that. ‘Oooo new loot. Oh it has those stats’

[quick axle]

anybutti run branches with embersoul?

[lunar meteor]

dont run branch in raid imo

need to minmaxed like a motherfucker to be btter than ember

[polar timber]

fuck spiteful holy fuck

[dusk palm]

Timings on H tindrall are rough. Are we supposed to do a different opener to not lose a kingsbane

[runic hinge]

I just don't like when I almost die because i dont pay attention quite enough

[dusk palm]

I played my windows decently but parsed a 39 because I got 5 kingsbanes instead of 6

[flint pond]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[hexed willow]

got my heroic dagger!

[waxen oyster]

isnt parsing on hc tindral just

padding on the roots

with spatter

[hexed willow]

and broke into the 200 club

[dusk palm]

I’m not sure. I know I got 5 kingsbane and the other rogue got 6 and I ended 9m boss damage lower

But to get 6 I’d have to send basically into intermission?

[waxen oyster]

i’ve played hc tindral as all 3 specs now and tbh

[south wing]

apparently it’s not as bad as we think we’re just trash

[dusk palm]

And then not have anything after the fly

[waxen oyster]

outlaw was most fun

[upper spear]

https://gyazo.com/28f918cab3ab192cca06459bde00b8ba in Fall hell, just one more piece

[dusk palm]

I just got my branch. Need to time throne for my last 20 then I’m in fall prison forever

[empty timber]

Difficult to restealth after each pack even if I say to tanks to let me a few seconds

[upper spear]

ya branch next...

[waxen oyster]

could be me and time throne on your first ever

[dusk palm]

You can actually spam the stealth key as pack dies and you’ll stealth before spiteful

[waxen oyster]

and not realize the third boss was a boss

[upper spear]

dont use vanish in KB in M+ if ur chain pulling, will help a lot.

[winter gale]

Is there anyone willing to go through my logs? I am 100% doing something wrong and I need a professional/established player to check em. I am already being told by my RL that I am lacking dmg.

[upper spear]

ill look

[balmy condor]

Hey nice cock

[waxen oyster]

i break 206 i think if i get branch or ashes

still no nick

[wispy quail]

I could use a log review too. I am just doing M+ and I am terrible. I'm popping up to 700k on the 5 target dummies following the wowhead guide, but I just find it impossible to replicate in real life. Packs don't live...mechanics...etc. But I'm barely beating our DH tank throughout a dungeon despite reading all of the things and watching videos. Maybe I'm just old and this isn't for me? /shrug

[strange python]

my sudden demise on 23 tot last boss

LOL

[real stirrup]

so just checked my +20 BRH log and I did 240k overall but my sudden demise was like 3% which is the same as fan of knives - surely that's bad right?

[slow needle]

Now include 10% of all bleed dam.

[waxen oyster]

you can control it

[real stirrup]

what would I be doing wrong if I'm applying ruptures and garrotes with envenom and CT? and spatter ofc

[slow needle]

Pretty sure its not worth optimising around the execute. Maybe Whispyr can correct me if something shifted while not looking.

[balmy condor]

It’s inefficient by definition

[slow needle]

The talent is worth primarily on the bleed amp.

[balmy condor]

You need 150% damage to deal 100% damage

You’d be casting bleeds at 2/3rds efficiency

Dogshit

[slow needle]

• you'll naturally see it as a smaller portion of your damage on Fort.

[balmy condor]

Don’t do that

[grim jay]

Whispyr ngl, yesterday I was happy for you that you were sleeping already

There was a whole wave of #1 m+ builds

And pretty cooked aoe priorities

[oak tangle]

@balmy condor do you know much about warcraft logs queries?

[balmy condor]

Very little I never need them

[oak tangle]

kk, have a nice day then

[balmy condor]

fucking idiots

Stupid fucking m+ers

[slow needle]

At least people are being considerate to wait till you're asleep before posting stuff to increase blood pressure?

[balmy condor]

The amount of people in my DM’s asking whether we use CT single target or saying “I saw XYZ rogue using CT on 2 targets” is actually unreal

M+ community as a whole has the IQ of a grape

All of them fucking dumb as rocks

[oak tangle]

i mean to be fair, your note is "dm for pve coaching"

[hexed willow]

I’d argue that the m+ push community is

[balmy condor]

I’d need to hold a multi million view Ted-talk for m+ coaching

[hexed willow]

Cause lotta people do m+ that try not to be

[winged sun]

[south wing]

dude said earlier he had like 5% less damage this week because of it so it might be skill issue unironically

[balmy condor]

It’s trickle down though, some idiot rogue in the top 10 plays like a lobotomized ape and then 300 people at 1200 io decide that person is the reincarnation of Christ and refuse to listen to any reason

[grim jay]

I called it the "Whispyr aneurism build". Thats going around lately and one guy using it yesterday said spreading dots in m+ makes you do 0 dmg

[surreal citrus]

why would I read my abilities or hit dummies when I can DM whispyr

[south wing]

ily and your guides, anything you say is golden

[hexed willow]

That shit I never understood. Like yeah I’m gonna push keys but why would I trust some random person over math

[balmy condor]

I’ve been screaming CT on 4+ for a while now

[hexed willow]

Like just cause some 3200 io person does it, doesn’t make it smart or good

[balmy condor]

And it’s just

Doesn’t matter

Nothing I say matters

[winged sun]

some players in M+ are really good

most are trash

[balmy condor]

People asking at what target count CT is funnel dude

I can’t

[slow needle]

If it makes you feel better, League has this issue too. Challenger Streamer meme builds then stomps a bunch of Bronze players on an alt account.
Diamond wannabes proceed to int games with meme build.

[sharp stump]

I'm monkey brain though. I see more than 1 target my neuron fires for aoe ability (CT)

[oak tangle]

i don't agree with the wowhead guide for assassination rogue, what are YOUR thoughts on it

[winged sun]

in keys the more you play the higher you get to thats why its so easy to play high keys

[sharp stump]

Forgive me 🙏

[winged sun]

you legit repeat the same thing over and over

[balmy condor]

So real

Wowhead sucks

[winged sun]

and when u invite that person into raid he plays so badly

[balmy condor]

Let’s ask whispyr

[earnest remnant]

ill become the anti hero whispyr, ill stream highkeys this season as assa

[real stirrup]

I don't think I like where this is going

[south wing]

yeah whoever wrote that hasn’t done any kind of high level content obviously

[hexed willow]

Whispyr how difficult is to push updates for wowhead?

[winged sun]

[hexed willow]

Cause I know for classic, they were restrictive AF for updates

[balmy condor]

M+ pushers are dented as fuck because they just smash their head into a brick wall for 14 hours straight on a Thursday until they time a key

And then people go

YO THESE PEOPLE ARE SICK

[grim jay]

Drunk stream when

[winged sun]

yea thats why i quit M+ in like 3-4 weeks

[surreal citrus]

help I spilled my juice

[winged sun]

20 keys a day

and only 1-2 of them are good

rest are all depletes and trying to time the keys we already timed before

[random plume]

yea it's draining esp if you don't have a solid group you're running with all the time

[quiet oar]

Uhm, hello Mr whispyr the wowhead guide doesnt mention any crit cap, but a random rogue in a pug raid that did 120k said there was one. Can you Tell me the crit cap? 🤓

[earnest remnant]

i dont drink

[winged sun]

even if its a solid group dude

[storm hedge]

Do tier set effects scale with ilvl?

[proper forum]

Is Caustic Spatter dynamic with dots or do they need to be applied whilst CS is present?

[winged sun]

it legit cant work

im not trying to be arrogant but i was in a top 10 world M+ team in season 1

[hexed willow]

Read the tooltip again

[winged sun]

and that group was a banger but dude

[balmy condor]

Depends on the update. Like a typo or something can be fixed in under a minute, but if I need to change the opener rotation it’ll take an hour. In general I’m given full control as long as I stick to the template format and don’t fuck the SEO giga hard

[winged sun]

20 keys a day

is relaly bad

[random plume]

it's VERY time consuming

pay off bad

[grim jay]

Best cope was an m+ guy in my guild saying m+ is so much about skill, getting oneshot ALWAYS is skill issue, you dont need gear to not get oneshot

[winged sun]

i stopped like 3 weeks in

[slow needle]

If you're gonna truly be Whispyr's anti-hero you need to slam a crate of Red Bull in one sitting.

[earnest remnant]

that i can do

[hexed willow]

Awesome that’s good to know about wowhead for retail

[earnest remnant]

but with monster

[grim jay]

That was as a tank

[balmy condor]

The biggest issue with wowhead updates is formatting more than anything

[hexed willow]

Thanks

[winged sun]

pushing keys and going for top 0.01% is not hard at all its just brain damaging in every single way

[upper spear]

!pi

where can i find the prio list or PI / Ebon Might

[balmy condor]

If I need to add a table or something, or hyperlink to a billion different abilities, that’ll slow me down

[winged sun]

and then some random guy who has 0.1%. title thinks hes the best pusher in the world

[grim jay]

I think the redbull was important for being the anti hero

[slow needle]

Whispyr is getting me back into Monster. Streamer influence is real

[balmy condor]

Bloodmallet for pi/windfury, evoker discord for evoker stuff

[balmy condor]

I’m not even sponsored man fuck

[hexed willow]

Hopefully wowhead doesn’t ever break links ><

[balmy condor]

Wdym

[winged sun]

i wish wowhead stopped using videos and random popups that look fine on pc

its cancer to use wowhead on a phone

[hexed willow]

We had database that updated all of its “links” essentially and broke any embedded link

[grim jay]

They should. Gotta send you a shit load of Monster Zero Zucker

[quiet oar]

Stop using it one Phone

[winged sun]

idk man i love opening wowhead

[arctic tusk]

whats the srength of hybrid buid?

[oak tangle]

what ever the white monster is, that's my jam

[strange python]

i need a very polite macro at the start of the dungeron to say "pls let me stealth" spiteful cares not for my carnage reset

[oak tangle]

cost me so much at work

[runic hinge]

💯

[hexed willow]

I actually like the hybrid build for m+ this week

Don’t know why

[quiet oar]

Its just not worth

[oak tangle]

in my experience this week, the hybrid and AP / blindside builds did absolutely the same

i just wanted to kill myself usign the hybrid build on bosses

[hexed willow]

Maybe it’s cause I’m restealthing less? Doesn’t make sense

[quiet oar]

Your Overall is lower

But the dungeon is faster

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Long In-depth explanation of why restealths aren't as important as you might think:
https://youtu.be/DoZDPFk_Zog
The TLDW (I understand, it's LONG):

• Garrote does roughly 14% of your damage overall in a key. This means from 100% improved garrote uptime to 0% improved garrote uptime, you would be losing 4.6% of your overall damage
• This is compounded by the fact that you simply do not lose that many restealths
• You still have vanish and in 10.2, shadow dance, which gives you MANY options to get your stealth effects
• This has been supported by logs and by simulations, for many years

[slow needle]

Just hold dance and vanish for those times you don't get a restealth.

And its fine.

[runic hinge]

And meld

[bronze echo]

is there any buttons on assa i can safely macro together?

[surreal citrus]

hybrid gets bigger kb number so it makes my brain feel more gooder

[quiet oar]

[slow needle]

Not that kind of elf unfortunately.

[vast loom]

I found holding vanish in pugs is pretty easy to do and isn't a huge loss on KB most of the time on trash anyway

[winged sun]

meld is op, i'll take 4 nightelfs for ataldazar for rezan and i'll let them rotate meld on each one

meld works for the entire party on rezan

[runic hinge]

I’m doing flips and then pressing fok and doing a 360 while I’m upside down

[winged sun]

so that i wont need to vanish it

[runic hinge]

Defying the laws of physics

[strange python]

the copy pasta isnt taking in to accoutn carnage

[slow needle]

Yes, yes it is.

Watch the full video.

[forest notch]

good for roguesss?

[limber lion]

No

Sim

[balmy condor]

Oh there’s a fun one for that, we recently updated our talent builds. Before our talent builds were inline embeds like [talents=baaabababsbababdkakabdjfkdhwba] with the actual import

Now we use [talents=[build=726]] for example, which links to a hashmap of builds. So when I update a build, say arterial shock, it updates site-wide. But that also fucks all the old pages so I got DM’s about how the PTR first impression pages had broken talent builds since they were using a different database and the talent imports changed since then. And my response is just “okay sorry” cause I ain’t fixing the talent builds for articles from 4 months ago. So if you go look up articles from back then all the builds are fucked to hell

[dusty trellis]

vendor it

[limber lion]

:)

[forest notch]

haha

well I ahd a 424

so better for me at least

[quiet oar]

#assassination message

Thats from our lord and savior whisp

[limber lion]

Ye we love ilvl

[slow needle]

Did Whispyr only stop due to hitting the character limit?

[grim jay]

Whispyr is the root of the fucked m+ builds confirmed

[hexed willow]

Yup that’s exactly the kind of change that is frustrating to deal with. Props to not having to fix the old useless stuff

[balmy condor]

Ah that was the one where the Russians decided to clown react me for 15 minutes cause I told one of them that they’re an idiot and he cried to his friends about it

[winged sun]

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-cat-sovicat-soviet-ussr-cat-gif-21826197

[strange python]

i might only be a 5% loss but it feels awful to play

[quiet oar]

I mean they cant be wrong whisp

You made a mistake

[forest notch]

lies its not horrible

lol

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

You call out one guy for being dented and all of a sudden you’re getting reacted by random people that’ve never said a word in their lives

As if I give a shit

[winged sun]

just if it was wod man

u could say anything and ignore them and they would just create a new account

and the fight never ends

[balmy condor]

Idk what this is supposed to mean

[balmy condor]

Yeh discord IP bans though it gets quite annoying

[forest notch]

was just a response to someone above. '

[slow needle]

Cev said the trinket was bad, sim it.

[balmy condor]

Oh

[winged sun]

oh i mean ingame in wow, back in wod

[balmy condor]

It’s quite good

Especially on smolderon

[winged sun]

now i think u get ignored on all charecters

[hexed willow]

@forest notch it’s bis for outlaw, decent for sub. Its ok for us but we don’t like double on use besides weird bs bosses

[winged sun]

or something

[balmy condor]

But cev’s not wrong

It’s pretty shit

Compared to like branch

[forest notch]

well is my other for now so at least only 1 on use

[slow needle]

Remember when I was like "no shot they make that trinket good" Whispyr?

They actually did 😦

[balmy condor]

Like if you get a Midas and go “wahoo don’t need ashes/branch”

You’re dumb

But if you’re like yeah this is okay

[slow needle]

(Comparatively to what it was in BfA)

[forest notch]

but I had a 424 trink so anything was better tbh lol

[balmy condor]

It’s not awful

[hexed willow]

Live in everbloom my friend

[balmy condor]

Then sure

[hexed willow]

I want a heroic hourglass 😦

[grim jay]

but branch is shit and unplayable on the last 3 mythic bosses

[grim jay]

The cursed O word

[keen spruce]

@balmy condor did I miss some change to IC targetting? I coulda sworn that on launch, I was able to garrote a target dummy from max range with acro and IC wouldn't spread it to the other 4. maybe it was the last weeek of ptr

and now it seems like it's extending out a bit more

[forest notch]

ya just building my base io atm and a few more slots for ilvl so I can actually get in groups

my mains io is 2950 though so that should help

[hexed willow]

Damn wtf you should know to sim then

[strange python]

end me bro

[hexed willow]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-been-had-been-had-gottem-kent-brockman-fooled-gif-20716036

[forest notch]

haha I know I dont need to sim when my current trinket is 424 🙂

[strange python]

nauseating gaming experience

[keen spruce]

like this definitely used to just garrote the closest mob

at some point in the last few weeks

[balmy condor]

There’s always a fine line between braindead and reasonable. Like stat weight sims? Automatic assumption is braindead, but if you’re like idk just checking to estimate gems/ring enchants because it takes too long. Okay sure fine it’s not the most accurate but that’s kinda okay

Or like saying that restealths are required. Automatically you’re an ape, but if you just think it feels bad to play, versus thinking it’s a huge damage loss, sure, it’s fine. I agree, feels kinda weird.

“Midas is poggers” isn’t technically wrong if you’re comparing to world quest trinkets or you’re looking to optimize smolderon damage or whatever, but compared to bis trinkets yeah it kinda fucking sucks

Ya know what I mean

Like talking in absolutes and black and white generally means you’re a fucking idiot

But if you’re level headed and reasonable about it and understand the pros/cons and put some thought into the words you say

You’re fine

Anyway

[balmy condor]

:3

[runic hinge]

I’m sorry that happened

[hexed willow]

Honestly the biggest thing I miss about restealth is IC

It’s just convenient

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

DM’s

[runic hinge]

Secrets don’t make friends

[surreal citrus]

can y'all pour one out for my homie who took 51 runs for branch

[slow needle]

Not until I have it.

Though tbf I haven't been grinding too hard. Tonight and tomorrow's job.

[grim jay]

Get to my 94 plaguefall runs and I'll consider

[runic hinge]

I am 12 runs in so really don’t even hate EB yet

[keen spruce]

[quiet oar]

Have you considered being lucky?

[surreal citrus]

94 i would simply stop playing

[grim jay]

Didnt invest enough points into luck

[slow needle]

I think I spent 44 runs or something to get both tusks last season. Then swapped to Sub for the harder bosses 🙂

[steel spire]

Is it ics fault for pulling the whole dungeon in waycrest

I thought it was the ret

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[runic hinge]

Blame them regardless

[surreal citrus]

not run into issues with ic on wcm

yet

[still stirrup]

I'm up to 15, have seen it 3 times, just not for me

[runic hinge]

I’ve seen it 0 in 12 runs too so that’s fun

[slow needle]

Yo Tony, I've got a question about Stuart because I know shit about bird. You say he's molting. Do the new feathers grow to the old one's length before pushing the old ones off or does Stuart do an impression of that kid in high school you knew that had long hair for ages then suddenly comes in with a buzz cut for a while?

[runic hinge]

lol

He doesn’t lose all his feathers. Just a few at a time and not all of them

As in he’s not replacing them all

[slow needle]

Are the new ones noticeably shorter though?

Ohh, does he not do a full replace over the course of a couple of weeks?

[runic hinge]

No

No lol. It would be funny if he did tho

He might be getting done soon. He’s been in a better mood the past 2 days

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[quiet oar]

I assume its the same like cats and dogs right?

[slow needle]

I wish I was like it.

I'm not growing any back 😦

[grim jay]

You have feathers?

[slow needle]

In my dreams and my next D&D game (maybe)

[surreal citrus]

[runic hinge]

He’s still very feathered

[slow needle]

Yeah, for some reason I just had this image.

[surreal citrus]

based bird owner

[slow needle]

Of him having like double feathers for a short while.

[oak tangle]

how do feathers stay in, like how far do they poke in

[slow needle]

Then the old ones fall away.

And the new ones are like 25% shorter.

Until they grow back in.

[keen spruce]

STOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grim jay]

They have many little hands holding them

[slow needle]

I now want a SD/Midjourney/AI thing to make this real now.

It will be nightmare fuel and I'm here for that.

[south wing]

pull a hair from your head from the root. That’s how

[grim jay]

[south wing]

sorry wrong reply

[slow needle]

I don't have double hairs.

I wish I did.

🙂

[south wing]

sorry LOL

[south wing]

meant to reply to this

[oak tangle]

no i get that, but feathers are a far sight larger than my hairs, and i am a far sight larger than a bird

[grim jay]

Many little hands until you prove otherwise

[south wing]

im okay with believing this tbh

[oak tangle]

like there's quills n shit that have stems that are nearly the size of a finger

is the bird like reverse porcupining or sumshit

[grim jay]

Now I know why some people cant play with alt modifier

[steel spire]

Yo sick pens

[oak tangle]

how much of that is under the skin

up to the fluffy bit?

[quiet oar]

Yo Pick them up to be able to dragonride

[slow needle]

Thats a good point. Ever been tempted to make a dip pen out of one?

[obsidian galleon]

Is there a big dps loss not pressing ambush during dance without blindslide?

[slow needle]

Excuse me, we're talking about birds right now.

(Also it makes 0 difference)

[oak tangle]

if you set up your stealth bars right, this is a non factor

[rustic minnow]

i need restealths and i stat weight sim all the time

what do i do?

[oak tangle]

play havoc

[slow needle]

Find jesus.

[quiet oar]

Delete the game

[slow needle]

In that order.

[misty holly]

I wonder if we should spec out of IC during spiteful week. Is there anything else good to take?

[slow needle]

Good work @oak tangle @quiet oar

[runic hinge]

Take all the other capstones

[royal lantern]

you mean you want too pick them up, but half a meter before you reach it a warrior leaps on it

then you go too the next one and a mage double blinks on it

[slow needle]

#assassination message

[hushed fable]

But... why? 😄

[slate crown]

No not really. See if you want some details/testing: #1065730164077645916 message

[oak tangle]

apparently feathers slot into the wing bones

[runic hinge]

These red ones are rather small. I’ll ask the gf to maybe try outta one of the bigger ones

[oak tangle]

that's metal af

[quiet oar]

Exactly

And than you die because you were Too slow

[quiet oar]

🫡

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[royal lantern]

nah you die cus you fly up and then get hit by the fire pillar that is half a mile under you still doing dmg

[runic hinge]

Not quite. You can kinda see a bit of flare right before the fluffy part

[quiet oar]

Wdym the visuals are perfect and you can totally See the boundaries in the air

[runic hinge]

[slow needle]

Interesting little project.

[oak tangle]

still tho, that's insane how much that sticks in to a tiny bird

[runic hinge]

She does some drawing maybe she’ll use one to draw something.

[runic hinge]

True

[sharp edge]

Anyone got a particular WA they recommend? Was using Quazii's DF ones but they keep tossing up errors

[slow needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[runic hinge]

Any of those

[sharp edge]

Damn love your work, thanks team

[oak tangle]

imagine being a bird with a feather this large stuck in you

you lose your feathers and exfoliating is too easy

all the bird lovers jsut looking at me like

[royal lantern]

you can ping dadsen

[keen spruce]

Mammals = furries
Reptiles = Scalies
Birds = flappies

[royal lantern]

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

actually its just called Avians tbh

[keen spruce]

yeah but it's not tho

[royal lantern]

but counts as furry if you like

[keen spruce]

they're flappies

[royal lantern]

[slow needle]

They're all kinda strange tbh.

[keen spruce]

they ain't mammalians

or reptilians

[oak tangle]

shmeeps would knwo

[slow needle]

But if people are happy then more power to them.

[keen spruce]

they furries and scalies

so birds are flappies

[oak tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/lils-silly-duck-lilsduck-ducky-duck-duck-riri-the-duck-gif-19719423

[royal lantern]

we all are man, we all are

[slow needle]

What are fish then?

Gurglies?

Swimmies?

[keen spruce]

blubs

[royal lantern]

we shitpost in a wow related discord

[slow needle]

Blubbies?

[royal lantern]

like

[runic hinge]

What about mermaids

[royal lantern]

thats peak strange

[oak tangle]

aquatic scalies

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/merman-gif-11205399

goddamnit discord

[keen spruce]

^

that was for you

dik

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

ye, i love discord taking the wrong comment too reply

[balmy condor]

my own

wait

where

am I

my head hurts

I'm gonna leave

[slow needle]

Welcome back Whispyr.

And bye bye again.

[rustic minnow]

stat weights

re stealths

[random river]

!logs

[balmy condor]

I replied to a message

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[balmy condor]

and my discord jumped

like 8 days

for no reason

[slow needle]

The mobile app is a steaming heap.

[random river]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[slow needle]

For stuff like that.

[random river]

how tf do I open a log review thread

[balmy condor]

you don't

[slow needle]

Also, can we get old !log command back till wowanalyzer gets 10.2 support.

Stuff has changed enough that its not really relevant to try to use.

[balmy condor]

I would highly highly giga prefer not

[slow needle]

Fair enough.

[balmy condor]

we simply don't have the people to do that

[slow needle]

Oh.

The changelog on wowanalyzer just sucks.

[balmy condor]

quake's taking a break

and cev is in and out

and aside from that it's me

[slow needle]

Down at the bottom:

[balmy condor]

and then like 2-3 regulars

[slow needle]

But not the complete bottom.

[random river]

how can I go about getting a log review

[slow needle]

Like, between Jan and Feb.

[slow needle]

Nah I get ya.

[still creek]

how much worse is the ashes trinket compared to a witherbarks branch when you pickup all orbs at once? or at bad timings?

[oak tangle]

Am I one of them, cause idk if I trust me

[runic hinge]

I don’t think I could read a log

[oak tangle]

I am the kinda person that knows what’s wrong, but too bad to not do it myself

[slow needle]

Once you look at a couple for a while it becomes rather intuitive.

[slow needle]

Saaaame.

I always pick up mid pull when I'm doing wrong.

And am just like ffs.

If I was better I wouldn't have screwed that up.

[runic hinge]

I like screaming “what the fuck are you doing” as I fuck my mid boss dm sequence into oblivion

[slow needle]

I just make sad noises.

[oak tangle]

It boils down to having to focus on other things I think, if I’m allowed to tunnel and only do mechanics that directly affect me I’m ok

[slow needle]

If you really need a log review I guess you ask nicely and see if Whispyr has time.

[keen spruce]

Log reviews are:
40-60%: you clearly didn't even attempt to read the guides or research how this spec works at all
20%: you're in a full grey parsing guild with atrocious kill times, no externals, bad strats
20%: you're walking away from the boss for like 20s at a time for seemingly no reason
the rest: very minor rotaional mistakes. you just wanted to flex your high purple parse and "ask how you could improve"

[slow needle]

But best to ask in like 10 hours when it isn't like 04:00 in the morning.

[wanton nest]

So on average how many envenoms should we chain in a row. I feel like I only get a few before I get interrupted with replying rupture or something.

[slow needle]

What if mine are blue?

[royal lantern]

eh, some good ones where there, but mostly accurate ye

[keen spruce]

Blue Parsing Perry bozo

[runic hinge]

I orange parsed normal council with old 4 set AMA

[slow needle]

I have a habit of not maintaining 100% up time on shiv in kb 😦

And I'm sure I'm not using tea quite right.

[oak tangle]

My log review is like, I’m normally higher on everything else, what did I fk up here, and is it just parse monkeys or am I inting

[royal lantern]

and i love too do kb before envenom is up, shit happens

[oak tangle]

And we found out I was inting feeding smoulderon my orbs

[normal mist]

Man, realizing that I don't have to dance purely to KB and use it instead for garr spreads + garrs in big pulls is amazing (ofc I use kb on important targets if there any)

[slow needle]

Yeah, I do that with shiv. Its literally just a practice issue for me. I need to ram the muscle memory down my finger's throat.

[keen spruce]

I do this shit constantly in keys

[runic hinge]

I love garrote right before dm because I’m stupid and then pressing dance and spamming garrote like wtf is happening

[keen spruce]

or trying to time your vanish perfectly at the end of KB but in doing so dropping envenom for the last tick

because you're ambush, gar, rupturing

[slate crown]

Sometimes I’m just freaking out trying to start my ramp asap before shit dies so I send kb dm on a target without proper prep in a key

So it’s ticking sooner

[keen spruce]

i mean sometimes I think it's worth

[runic hinge]

Gar>shiv>dm>kb/sd>stand still screaming internally

[keen spruce]

to try to keep up with DHs

[slate crown]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

i'll sometimes do like a gar-gar-rup-mut-fan-env-burst

then just spread the rest of the shit either during dance

or during vanish

or IC ruptures after vanish

[slate crown]

Yeah just need to get stuff rolling quick

[keen spruce]

that's the anti-DH sniper tech ig

but if you can get a nice long setup during the gather of that first pull in fall

https://tenor.com/view/nut-nut-nut-nutella-nut-button-nut-button-gif-23680452

[runic hinge]

The dh in my last fall did over a million dps on that pull

I hardly got to press buttons

[oak tangle]

I keep wanting to do this, but my monkey brain goes “2 garrotte now 2 ruptures” and then the packs nearly dedge and I’m sitting on kb like shoulda slapped that earlier

[keen spruce]

take pull into boss

then your KB target wont die

[drifting cosmos]

Can any spec even keep up with dh in big pulls?

[slow needle]

Other DH.

[drifting cosmos]

They have like what, 2 uncapped aoe?

[oak tangle]

can we do a at here tag, and quote the people gaming with the ST build with spatter

[keen spruce]

but also like...

look at my plater

half the mobs no rupture

many no garrote

just... press buttons

and do dmg

[slow needle]

PI or no PI?

[runic hinge]

Smart

[keen spruce]

no be perfect

[slow needle]

Just curious, I see an Aug but I don't see the healer.

[keen spruce]

no priest

rsham

[slow needle]

Niiice!

More impressive.

[keen spruce]

we were running misfit toys comp

that WW is normally our brewmaster

[oak tangle]

people talk so much about cd's etc, the pack before the transfusion boss in atal, im sitting at 500k without a single cd

[runic hinge]

My key was only an 18 but we did 3 chest

[slow needle]

I need to play more Sin in keys to learn it properly.

I cba last week with packs dying so fast.

[keen spruce]

there are entire packs sometimes

[jade abyss]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
Video
TLDR:```- Outside of Cooldowns, you want to wait until your envenom is in pandemic/around 1 second in order to proc tier. This is the core concept of "chaining", where you clip envenoms back to back

• If it's getting uncomfortable to chain, or you have to let envenom drop, pool back up to around 80% energy, and then start another chain
• Always wait to envenom, never wait to mutilate/ambush. You want to generate your combo points as soon as possible, and then evaluate whether you should pool or use a finisher
• Without 4 piece, chaining envenoms has no benefit and you can try to be above 50% energy for sanguine
• With 4 piece, the chain takes priority over sanguine and you would play around the tier, not sanguine```The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and tier procs which is a more efficient energy use

[keen spruce]

that I just fan-tab-rupture-fan-tab-rupture-mutilate-fan-tab-rupture

and sit at like 400-500k dps

lol

if I KB at the end of the previous pack

and have nothing for it

[oak tangle]

yup

[keen spruce]

like is it fun? no

is it big burst?

no

[oak tangle]

but my restealths

[keen spruce]

but like... just do your job

[oak tangle]

kek

[keen spruce]

and you'll do damage

the DH you're with is also mostly a 2m class

so you're probably gonna be doin shit damage to the same packs

just capitalize on the shit damage pulls

and overall go up

then get gapped anyways

[sonic oak]

tbh assa should have a node like after X energy used, you gain x stacks or x duration of Indiscriminate Carnage - ez assa pug fix

[keen spruce]

because dh

[slow needle]

To somewhat paraphrase Realz and echo a sentiment I agree with.
You're playing a spec where a part of its core identity is DoT management.

Stop trying to get rid of the DoT management part of the spec.

Especially when we have more tools than ever to spread them.

[sonic oak]

Its still a dot management spec but you apply more than 1 at once lol

[keen spruce]

then it's not management

it's automation

[sonic oak]

Well you management more dots but you still manage them

[slow needle]

Okay.

[keen spruce]

boo

[slow needle]

Lets run with this idea.

[keen spruce]

booooooooooooooooooooo

[sonic oak]

LMFAO

[keen spruce]

fish react this man

[slow needle]

How much energy should you spend before getting IC for lets say your next Garrote + Rupture.

Instead of a duration.

Or even next 2 Garrotes + Ruptures.

[supple girder]

how do you guys deal with restealth with spiteful?

[runic hinge]

New assa plays sooo much more interesting than the old one

[keen spruce]

ignore them

and go about your business

the spitefulls and the restealths

[slow needle]

Don't worry about it. Save Dance/Vanish for pulls if you really want.

[keen spruce]

don't save anything on fort weeks

send it

your lizards and priests will thank you

[runic hinge]

I’ve had like 3 pulls that were bad with just trying to get dots out in 8 dungeons today so I mean

It really is fine

[oak tangle]

yeah at 20's there's 'normally' a target that will live a kb

[keen spruce]

There is no world where you are going to do more efficient damage in a key by waiting for spitefuls between every pull

vs just chaining those little bastards into everything

[slow needle]

DoT the spitefuls to ensure energy 🙂

[keen spruce]

like if a dungeon is what 12-15 pulls normally

[oak tangle]

also my view is maybe tainted, because i am a nelf, and when you say 'restealth?' i say 'problem?'

[keen spruce]

and you have to wait 10s between each one to kill off spites and drop combat

you're losing 2-3 minutes off the dungeon

ain't no way

you're every gonna do enough damage from restealths to make up those 2-3 minutes

if you're lucky, there's like a stubborn mob at the end with no other spites

it dies and the spite it spawns isn't targetting you

and you can get a stealth in before it hops out

but like... just play a whole dungeon w/o restealths and just use vanish and dance

it's fine

[worthy igloo]

which build you guys find the most optimal one so far?

[clever perch]

is there any reason to use fan of knives on 2 targets?

[keen spruce]

yes

[oak tangle]

and you're also probably going into bosses with spells on cd, so who really cares about stealthing for them

[sonic oak]

You can ask for the route and plan/have an idea to the usage of vanishes/dances for chains
You can also snipe ruptures onto spitefuls to get full energy back like they said.

[keen spruce]

I doubt it but I don't remember the rules on that stuff

maybe?

idk

probably doesn't matter

[supple girder]

yeah i been just rupturing them so far

[sonic oak]

tbh you need to pray your tank knows how assa works

[clever perch]

any1 can confirm?

[oak tangle]

i feel you didn't read anything just said

[clever perch]

@balmy condor daddy

[supple girder]

i read dump all

[left sundial]

Tea usage when kingsbane duration?

[sonic oak]

To do prio packs into smallers packs for caustic etc

[royal lantern]

congratz, you slowly understand the pain of the purple names here

[oak tangle]

didn't mean this to you sorry

[fallen knoll]

What would you gain from fok 2 targets, sounds bad

[keen spruce]

@clever perch

[balmy condor]

brother read a damn guide why the fuck you pinging me for the most basic of shit, use fan of knives on 3+

[keen spruce]

you made me go to the guide

why did you do this to me

[clever perch]

so there is no actual reason to spam it in 2 targets?

[royal lantern]

no??

[balmy condor]

is two less than three?

[clever perch]

aight ty

[slow needle]

@balmy condor I am once again pinging you to blame you for my current consumption of delicious Mango Loco Monster.

[oak tangle]

might need a link to a reading comprehension guide too whispyr

[clever perch]

i was arguing with a friend about this and he was convinced that u must use it in 2 xD

[balmy condor]

duolingo.com

I actually fucking cant

[royal lantern]

mate

you want cp

mutilate is minimum 2cp, up too 4 with crit

fok is 1cp+1for each crit on every target

why would you ever fok on 2targets

[slow needle]

Echoing Blades fever dream.

[junior aurora]

he doesnt know what that is lol

[oak tangle]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[oak tangle]

Duolingo: duolingo.com

[junior aurora]

if ur asking fok target count no shot were u around in bfa

[grim jay]

#3 is less dps than #2 on my details.

[cunning basin]

Scrolling Twitter and saw more accusations by the unwashed masses that rogue theorycrafters are sandbagging sims

[junior aurora]

wouldnt know, my dps only shows spot #1

[grim jay]

Dang where is that setting?

[cunning basin]

Average wow player probably doesn't even know what a sim is, so kinda wild of them to accuse that

[junior aurora]

its the one that says post me at top always and then you shorten the box

[grim jay]

[slow needle]

Assassination does more damage in the raid on details than it does in sims! Lets forget like 2 fights have no adds to cleave onto while I compare against patchwerk sims, details doesn't properly factor out Aug damage that isn't in sims, and that the sims I'm comparing to don't include PI!

[keen spruce]

Average unwashed masses couldn't even find their own feet if they weren't attached to their ankles... let alone understand the concepts of external buffs

[grim jay]

Rogue historically known for sandbagging sims

[hearty reef]

!bugs

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[hearty reef]

Not here

Any liks to the bugtracker of sin logs/aug hooks?

[slow needle]

https://gist.github.com/ljosberinn/a2f08a53cfe8632a18350eea44e9da3e

[hearty reef]

Ty fam

[slow needle]

Wait, they silently fixed spatter hooks?

Good job Blizz.

[cunning basin]

I don't think most of the people saying that would even know what half of that means LMAO they really out here like "ROUGE OP NERF BLIZZ "

[royal lantern]

i mean

rogue is strong

[slow needle]

Yeah, there is no doubt about it being strong.

[royal lantern]

but not "wowhead weekly heroic overall" strong

[slow needle]

Its just not as turbo busted as it first appears.

[hearty reef]

Holy shit just saw

[balmy condor]

my article did something

[hearty reef]

Maaaan now i have 0 excuses

[slow needle]

Sanguine still doesn't reattribute.

[slow needle]

I just wish that wowhead would stop those articles.

[hearty reef]

[rare jackal]

best ambersoul timing is 11 sec on KB right?

[slow needle]

Or at the very least increase the amount of commentary on the stats by like a factor of 3.

[grim jay]

Im actually even more amazed by mistweaver auto attacks being bugged with evoker

[royal lantern]

generates clicks

so nope

never stops

[slow needle]

Then actually do some analysis on every article.

[royal lantern]

gotta get the worldquest andys too click on it

[slow needle]

Like they did on the most recent one.

[royal lantern]

and actinf as if they know anything

[slow needle]

Instead of just posting a bunch of graphs that like 75% of their audience can't interpret properly.

[grim jay]

That was actually fire

Even if noone reads it

[slow needle]

The latest one was a really good article imo and not just because of Whispyr's part.

It properly talked about the things that people would be interested in.

[grim jay]

Im pretty sure you overestimate the average person that looks at those

[slow needle]

Maybe. I dunno wowhead's demographics.

Lets be honest, we're a massive echo chamber here.

[royal lantern]

idiots

[slow needle]

Like, just being in a class discord probably puts us in the top % points of the playerbase on average.

To care enough to join.

[left sundial]

cant see shiv duration on weakaura need shiv timer on target ....

[slow needle]

Is this a WA you made yourself?

[left sundial]

here only shows shiv cooldown own usage need to see shiv cooldown on target

[slow needle]

Do you mean the debuff duration on the target?

[left sundial]

Yes sir

[slow needle]

So I again ask, did you make this WA yourself?

Or is it someone elses?

[left sundial]

nope cant find wa for this

[slow needle]

So you made it yourself?

If so.

Go to triggers.

Make a new trigger.

[left sundial]

which box is duration on target

[slow needle]

Change the bit where it says player to target.

[slow needle]

None.

Okay you already have atrigger for the debuff then.

Scroll to the top of that window. Better yet, expand the WA window so you can ss more than a tiny portion at a time.

[slow needle]

Right.

See this bit?

[left sundial]

Aura type to debuff then ?

[slow needle]

That is saying its looking for an aura on the player that is a buff.

Change player to target.

Change buff to debuff.

Make sure the box for "Own Only" is checked.

So you don't see other people's debuffs.

[royal lantern]

if you want an example of the average wowhead user

that article you talk ablut with whisp explaining stuff, and how a bigger Part is aug hooks not working?

first comment is "take assa dmg and give it bottom specs!!!"

[slow needle]

And then the dynamic information will include the remaining duration that you can use for text and stuff.

[left sundial]

thank you brother you made my day for better rotation

[kind hare]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Profile (lots of one-off weakauras)
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

[spring socket]

w

[royal lantern]

a

[oak tangle]

for the next time someone asks when to fan of knives

[royal lantern]

so only if the group has 1caster enemy

gotcha

[dark token]

Jordan never did that move

[grim jay]

The average wowhead user just sees the bars and thinks "nerf x buff y" and closes the tab

The people that comment are actual degenerates

[upper spear]

how do i see all the keys i ran today?

[hearty reef]

When do pool?

[upper spear]

is it on Raiderio? i cant find the option

[south wing]

[hearty reef]

You have to understand how to look at it

[quiet oar]

Ye

[sharp viper]

This is cursed

I love it

[quiet oar]

You wont understand this meme,without understanding pooling

[hearty reef]

The typos are bis btw

[south wing]

how much does pressing envenom change with 4pc

[oak tangle]

see my photo

[hearty reef]

45% of ap buffed by 35% if there only one bozo

[south wing]

does not compute am monkey brain

[grim jay]

Its the same. You press it and it does damage, just a little more

[forest notch]

Just looking for some input here, Im finishing gearing my boosted character and my 2 rings and offhand are 424.

Im looking what first 2 items to craft. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5kWZWmCnA6djhsJmBMrFdG

Droptimizer obviously says wep > Rings > Rest. Weapons Ill ignore as ill farm Nick of times but are rings worth crafting as 1 slot at least? then hold my next one for boots or something? Or should I avoid rings and just wait til I replace my 424 rings.

[oak tangle]

think of it, as when you get to one of those conditions you follow the arrow

[grim jay]

You should just get your 2 embellishments brother

[kind hare]

Spend 4+ combo points on Envenom to maintain the poison application buff or proc Rogue Assassination 10.2 Class Set 4pc
This mean that chaining envenom ist not that important?

[south wing]

did not see it’s a flow chart ty

[upper spear]

is there a reason ur not going boots?

[forest notch]

I just have a hero pair of boots at but one of my 2 sparks was going to be boots yes

[grim jay]

It is quite literally why you chain

[forest notch]

kk sounds like ignore rings and just get embelish

[fallen knoll]

Curious about this one too, rio only shows me recent, but there doesn't seem to be a full list or anything

[upper spear]

then u go boots and toxic patch

ez

[kind hare]

Yes but is last in prio

[balmy condor]

do one for CT on 4

[grim jay]

obviously you maintain your dots over that, but if you arent afk you can do both most of the time unless you run out of energy

There is no conflicting info

[kind hare]

Ok

ty

[velvet marten]

Can someone take a look at this **LFR boss fight **and lmk if im heading in the correct direction?
It wont be perfect there will be flaws im only a few days into ever playing rouge.
I will add a boss sim of my char for roughly the same time it took for the boss fight.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tKa74kFgKYezCFiWACuaXx
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2RfbGMxqvVjBp4kH#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=143

[junior furnace]

any Deathmark with Shiv macro?

[upper spear]

?

[quiet oar]

Why

You need a seperate button for shiv anyway

[dark token]

/cast deathmark

Then the 2nd macro

/cast shiv

[hearty reef]

Both on global

[upper spear]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-ovation-gif-24495838

[foggy terrace]

is ashes from hc good on assa?

[hearty reef]

Where da #showtooltip?

[forest notch]

what is toxic patch?

[upper spear]

your 2nd embelishment

[quiet oar]

Its good yeah

[foggy terrace]

im with a nightmare eggshell 483 atm and branch

but the shell sims me more dmg

[quiet oar]

Not as good as Branch but good

[foggy terrace]

by a lot

[quiet oar]

Ye bcause you ahve the branch equipped

You either use Branch or Ashes

Not both

[foggy terrace]

so we goin for branch and brand right?

[upper spear]

for raid

[foggy terrace]

for m+?

[quiet oar]

For raid yes

[forest notch]

like is it an item? whats it go on

[upper spear]

the Wowhead guide, that shows you all of this, recommends the trinket from Fall

[upper spear]

wrists, cape, or belt

[forest notch]

k

[foggy terrace]

branch + accelerating got it