#assassination
1 messages · Page 636 of 1
It's less difficult than crafting a 447 because you don't have the enchanted crest in there
when do you want PI on sin
Well ~8-9 seconds into the pull
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
oh its 15 seconds now, not 20. Yea what he said
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
did blizz hotfix a visual change for garrote and rupture to glow when spec'd into indescriminate carnage? It wasnt like this last night
so im hitting a dummy (new to sin rogue) and in my dance when i go to rupture, ambush is only getting me to 3 combo points
I think it did this before the patch as well
do i spend it to use rupture in the dance window. or do i get more points and not let it snapshot
I recall when you pressed IC before 10.2 the buttons glowed
they never did that for me. wonder if it is a bartender change? i did just update that
You should be spending 2 ambushes to build to a rupture in dance. Typical dance window will be KB- > Gar -> Env -> amb -> amb -> Rupture
the exact order may shift around depending on starting CP or seal fate cp, but you should be able to get a snapped normal CP rupture in without too much trouble
maybe i need more haste then
bc my dance is ending
and not letting me get 2 ambushes
with the rupture in it
its either ambush rupture or ambush ambush
GCDs it does
untold horror from the depths
litearlly not for energy classes
for 19years now
energy class = static 1 sec gcd
cant be reduced by haste
Tooltips lie to yall
Only rogue spec that has a reduced GCD is outlaw and that’s only during adrenaline rush
Otherwise hard stuck at 1s
okay but what if its haste
it does in fact. if you hover over the haste stat, you will see that it says "increases attack speed and energy regeneration"
tryan's doin some hyperbole
What if I unlock Adrenaline Rush if I reach 100% Haste?

haste in normal quantities does not have an impact on gameplay
its a very very small gain
baseline energy generation is 1 more for 10%, so at 10% energy you get 11 instead of 10 each second (wich means.....60 energy in 1 min....... thats 1x mutilate lol)
and also a very small increase cus of more bleed ticks and attacks trought dashing
but both of those things are such a very small impact, it doesnt change anything
its not that 4% haste vs 20% haste means "i have no energy" vs "i have endless energy"
you wont even notice any difference at all
Tryan taken the BASED pills today
it does
but you dont double the dot tick rate
it does, it's infacet the same increase %-wise
10% haste, is 10% more energy from those sources aswell
which again, does not factor a lot all things considered
@balmy condor thoughts on changing assassination rogue to freak rogue and instead of dots and bleeds it eats ass and sucks toes?

i agree
would that do more damage?
Does anyone have a macro to cast ambush when available and mutilate when not, i cant seem to get it to work
Bro???
would that help people get restealths and haste scaling out of ther heads?
still not as cringe as Roll the Bones

complaining about RtB in 2023 lmao
Also can anyone help me with these old questions; Mods answered the first one atm and I understood the point of using envenom in a right way now
Guy doesn't eat ass confirmed.
how boring.
-
no, you dont play around exsang actively, its basicaly an passive % buff that happens by itself sometimes, but you dont aim for it
-
aling cd's, its always the best thing
3)yes, you maintaint CT, you dont spam it anymore it doesnt even has instant dmg
- idk tbh, did a m+ and felt the same tbh, boss dmg was on the rough side
your 5th, you apply garrote but dont spam it, ambush does big dmg so you wanna use ambush
answers the questions?
Rogue is stealth class and you say stealth don’t matter!?!!!!?!!! 
Definitely. Thank you very much!
Rogue is dual wield class, stealth is bonus

@royal lantern any chance you have an answer for this while your at it 😛
Oxi made answered that hours ago
less keybinds though isnt it
blindside replaces mutilate

automatically
Except in dance I believe they said
we should pool until 80% 240 energy?
you dont need a macro for that anymore lmao
okay i'm commin around to sass keys
just put ambush on your mut key in stealth...?

mutilate itself is replaced in dance
like, mut is 1 for me normaly, and in stealth i just put ambush on 1 
okay so put it on your stealth bar
That is also what we said with JPC but then we learned some people don’t have a stealth bar 
why not tho
sounds like a them problem
sub players dont always have a stealth bar but no reason not to in sin

i just did 2 keys before realizing I had mutilate on my stealth bar where ambush is supposed to go
and no ambush keybind in stealth

Bro keys are so fun now
and still had IC and exang on my stealth bar
Like insanely fun
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool

So we replace mutilate for ambush in stealthbar ?
yes
What does your damage break down look like
but i have no idea what i'm doing
and it's just like 16s and 17s so nothin is living long enough
This was a 20bh
yeah i'm not gettin much spatter uptime
cuz stuff starts dying once my bleeds around
ct so high from the gauntlet too
are out*
yeah sin feels better but everyones too strong rn so things die too fast
It's also not fort so yeah, sometimes i KB and that mob dies in .2
id imagine it feels great at like 25+
Scaling also jank cause old scaling is in effect
yeah especially with a high health mob
in the pack
my friends are cooming over AoE blind
yeah rn if theres no lieutenant mob its a wash
you playing tricks or blackjack
black jack
assas doesn't generate much threat anyways
and aggro drops on stealth and dance
aggro drops on dance?
it has a small aggro reset yeah
I'm unaware of how it works
but definitely drops at least a portion of aggro
a small aggro reset normally followed by generating a fuckton of threat
so probably doesnt feel like it lol
i mean by the time you're slamming your CDs it shouldn't matter
used to sub where you slam cds immediately
and rogue still has a global aggro reduction btw
cause ya know
spaghetti
from 25 years ago

also aggro you tricks to the tank
isn't multiplied by the tank aggro multiplier
it's just raw aggro you generate
yeah but you dont generate aggro during it
yeah sure
but how many times is the rogue pulling aggro
idk i pull off my boomer tank occasionally
a lot more when i play frost mage tho that spec is an aggro fiend
they asked me to tricks on raszageth adds for the mythic platforms
and then couldn't tell when I was tricksing
and when I wasn't
placebo
yeh
i only use tricks in dungeons so i can start dpsing while tank is gathering
tricks is such a giga overrated ability lmao
on sin u prob dont need it
it was nice on sub so you can start blasting stuff during the gather
but for outlaw or sub you can yeah
yeah thats what i used it for
Haven't agreed with anything this much in my entire life
tricks tank and then pull 2 extra packs
I'm just based like that
he’ll figure it out
Which trinket from time rift vendor should i pick?
think the last time I used tricks on assass and felt it be reliable was in bfa with tricks snapping stuff
they're all whatever you'll replace them in 3 days
theres a pin in #wow-general if you want to sim them
ty
what is our 2pc2pc or old 4pc sims
whats our raid cleave talent build
lmao thats awesome ty. just one change
Hey, wondering if anyone else having issues with energy in M+? During single target (boss fights), hitting a certain point where it just doesn't physcally seem to be going up at all
spec is slow
Felt that. Just feel like it's gone from having energy on demand, to barely any. Guess I've gotta learn to pace my Thistle teas a little better than before as well
i miss crimson tempest in raids 
can you put it into the FaQ please, i missed it
Sorry, I think I mispoke. I meant with the regen.
you can still take crimson tempest
regen is higher than it was
no tempest in cleave huh?
no reason to spend 2 points for it
could you explain this to me please, i dont fully understand
can you make a 30 minute video about it
how do ppl get kingsbane to hit 900k?
mine is at max 500k
I follow the rotation on wowhead, I cant understand...Maybe Im doing something wrong after the opener that ruins my whole kingsbane/ boss fight
are you keeping shiv up 100% of the time and envenom up 100%?
I think so
there's a weakaura that tracks if you want to practice on a dummy
I have 0% haste tho, having sub gear, maybe thats also something making me do less dmg ST, idk
Where to place potion and trink before Deathmark or macro it after deathmark? 😄
i have 0% haste too from sub gear and can still get big kingsbanes
hmmm
https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug use this
I have logs but idk if someone can help me check them 😄
^
they wanted me to tricks as sub and jokes to them sec tech does not generate aggro
the tracker will help you with uptime
I mean I'm looking at logs
people are barely getting over 1mil
with pi
and windfury
and full raidbufsf
idk how concerned I am
if you want min max if i understand that all you need to vanish/stealth before 3 sec end of kingsbane and use tea 6 s before to have mastery buff + stealth dmg buff for last ticks kingsbade
but I also didn't really know how much damage kingsbane was doing before either
so fuck if I know
i think only the tea part of that is minmax
you still want to vanish to pandemic the garrotes
you are right 😄 Still learning that
You vanish for the last 3 seconds for ma
You garrote from the vanish all the same but that’s not why you’re casting it
ma?
master assassin
Could I send the log to someone?
Its just one boss on HC
I would really appreciate advice and what I could work on
Link it
How to macro Deathmark with trink/pot use them before /cast Deathmark or after?
Ty
Yeh no snapshots aside from nightstalker
Your kingsbanes are doing 900k on that one
Improved Garrote?
Yeah I guess
Then my details are bugged
That’s not really a snapshot though
I think I waste shiv outside kingsbane window, maybe that affects my dps
is there anything else I could do to get higher dps?
Kingsbane looks fine
they're doing over 900k even
need to tell ur priests to stop PIing the tank dh and the bm hunter
and to PI you instead fr
oh nvm thats a havoc
still
Your dm sequences look fine but for some reason when you don’t have dm you just decide to forget how to open
But aside from that looks okay
@balmy condor This video is about pooling? Bcs i need to understand it more im otu of energy all the time also downlaoded WA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcyypmkw7RU
This guy yaps real hard
Follow me on twitch :) https://www.twitch.tv/whispyrttv
Written Guides
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/overview-pve-dps
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Ravenholdt Discord: https://discord.com/invite/ravenholdt
0:00 Patch notes
11:30 My take on energy
16:00 Num...
Save tea for the last 6 seconds of mb
Nah that’s a ramble about the spec being too fast
Apparently I talked about it during the single target vide
Idk tomorrow afternoon is video day
Gonna need to crank some stuff
Wowhead has like a King James Bible of text about pooling
Explains it twice even
I get really confused after my opener, I send shiv all the time and panic a bit. If I understand correctly I should just save shiv and do the same opener with dance and KB with 2x shiv but without MA last 3 sec ? and then repeat opener when DM is back with dance and KB?
Ok ty and lookign forward to see video
It’s just the same thing over and over again, if it’s an even minute, you do the opener, if it’s an odd minute you just repeat the opener without dm/vanish
Like just do what you did at the start
That was a good opener
And then do that every minute
whispyr, how come on your plater if i pandemic a garrote with 3s left and up it to 21 or whatever, the pandemic border is triggering at 30% of 21 then and not 30% of 18? i feel like i must be missing something but it kept desyncing from my wa pack and i dunno
i might legitimately just be real dumb
What
Alright, thanks!!
My player shouldn’t be doing that
i wish i knew how to record video
i dunno, the one i imported is
damn buff sub rogue
i think i would have tied with good pulls
maybe done more
At least you aren’t sub
It’s glowing on 6 seconds instead of 5?
problem with 20s though is just things die too quick for assa rn i think
whereas outlaw doesnt give af about that
Plus each key with a different group doing different dps and pulls it’s gonna be hard to compare much
but still stuff dies halfway through dm or 3/4 through kingsbane
Ye that’s cursed
but my group was just running shit to get keys for next week/shake rust off
and our bm hunter just got a huge dps cd
call of the wild is cracked
Nobody in my guild wants to do shit this week lmao so I’m just chilling
oh nobody in mine does either im just forcing them to
bc i didnt play ptr so i have to relearn the specs lol
sudden demise 5% dam thats not reported in raidbots
i feel would have been more if unbugged as well
sudden demise is reported in details
Bruh I swear i pick a kingsbane mob and the other 2 dps focus it
now do sub
im sorry, im actually dumb. apparently luxthos can't pandemic right. awkward
yeah i was gonna try sub out tonight and drop tea for acro and go dark brew build
cba to learn shadowdust for m+
your plater is correct
dust m+ is actually cool btw
im really sad i catalysted my sark belt
when i was on outlaw hypetrain
yeah but now i gotta go try and tell luxthos he doesnt know how to count
how valuable are the season 2 set bonuses? I have 437 ilvl 4 set so wondering when to replace it, feel like I will sit on the 2 set for a while at least
you replace it as soon as you have the new set
all of it or 2 set bonus?
you play the new 4 set
@gaunt moat how do i get the kingsbane record thing to stay for more than 2 seconds
What do you mean by that? Is there something wrong with his WAs?
ok ok look
no
it turns out he can count too, but the way plater likes to round numbers on my screen puts them and my wa a second off each other

i dunno what ive done here 
Ahh yes, the ol' number rounding.
Sudden Demise isn't implemented in the sim?
The bleed damage is, but the proc cant be approximated in a good way.
On a higher key its gonna be less of your overall
(sample size of 1)
yeah i guess
the dmg doesnt scale with mob hp
dammit this tank invited an aug so my dps tests are off
time to cancelaura all the dmg
you could just log the dungeons
is there sims to raid dance / no dance guys?
in raid you could also just macro KB and shadow dance together right
yep
but sometimes I shadow dance, put up bleeds and kingsbane at the end of shadow dance, is that wrong ?
yes
shiet
Wait wat
is there a macro your using for this
yeah shadow dance i feel is more lenient in m+ bc you can use it for cleaving garrotes instead
can just do /cast shadow dance /cast kingsbane probably
yea that works
if i use a 1cp rupture is the pandemic window actually 2.4s? now that ive spent too much time looking at all this, my wa only assumes im casting 6cp ones
but personally i do garret1 garret2 garret 3 snd garret4 fok rupture fok rupture mut envenom as my setup, then shiv, dance/kb, garret1, envenom, garret2, garret3 and put up ct sometime after
So for example when in ST, garrote about to go down and I have KB and dance, it’s just better to normal garrote and then dance KB combo?
wouldnt it be better to mut/envenom spam in kingsbane/dance rather than reup garrotes
as long as pack doesnt die fast enough
garrets is prob more dmg
but dungeons are kinda feelycrafty
you definitely dont want to mut except ot keep spatter up
i mean i guess if the pack is dying too fast to use kingsbane who cares what you do
yes im envenoming as my finisher during kingsbane
yeah i meant like fok/envenom
Should I use Shiv outside of kingsbane window?
more garreets is good
or wait with shiv x2 until kb comes back?
no
shiv is 2 charges 30sec
kb is 1min
they line up perfect by default
When do you use tea in general?
perfect, another thing I should work on
I think only for energy !
why are we so eager to kingsbane at the end of dance
and waste crit chance during our main cds
?
he also said kingsbane before dance
oh so he just has no idea
at the end of the day
you can do whatever you want
but MA and nightstalker on kingsbane
is really good
we take vanish
and put it on the last 3s of kingsbane
SPECIFICALLY for master assassin
wasting double that duration from dance because haha kingsbane at the end :3
sounds real bad
unless theres some real good justification
even in giga aoe like the spatter with the kingsbane is doing more than one extra set of dots out in aoe
what's the point
I didnt read or see it anywhere, I just did it instinctively to spread bleeds then kingsbane to make sure it gets the 10% damage increase,
anyway back to afk for irl work
ya you really have to see it to believe it, the amount that spatter does through kb. or you could believe the ppl who spend all their time figuring this shit out, but yknow whichever gets you there
if someone told me first 5-6 seconds of KB are fake, I'd believe them
does sin still have any kind of execute like SL zoldyck?
does the same thing?
also we get more blindside procs (free ambushes) during execute
does it scale at all with haste/PI?
its similar, i think its slightly nerfed, dont remeber
but yeah, %nature/bleed damage increased to enemies under 35%
it scales with our damage, so kind of?
like if we have 15% more haste, we'll do more damage, and then that gets amped by the talent
but its not like, a seperate DoT effect that scales with haste or anything
zold is just making numbers that are already there bigger
ye im just wondering if assa retains their PI value during execute vs unholy/other executes
i dont see how execute would change that
dunno other classes executes to know the comparison
maybe other classes have execute mechanics that scale off of PI even better, dunno
in the opener do u just garrote and send SnD cuz youll get its uptime back from mutilate casts
well for example, arms warriors have rage overflow outside of execute where they can't spend enough rage, but during execute they're able to actually dump rage, so PI value would be increased for them
even if the SnD isnt max cp
oh that makes sense
not that PI value on arms was ever huge but it's never bad either
is the PI spreadsheeter in here? i want to see execute PI numbers
or like DK where soul reaper cd i think scales with haste
SnD is given by Envenom, not mutilate. But, yes, you do Garrote -> SnD -> Ambush. You will be envenoming shortly after which will extend SnD, and then you literally don't press SnD again for the rest of the fight unless there's long downtime because envenom just keeps it up 100%.
doesn't matter the starting cp
do I get a cookie if I do it

but i could make brownies
i don't have any cookies but i'll lat you eat these muffins

i have brownie mix
BRO?
how much does sudden dimise should be doing
from costco
ayo
idk how i get them to you though

i wanna see 10 target pi numbers, 1 minute
so i can tell my spriest to pi me in keys


sub shit confirmed
they'll ask you to play DEvoker
I assure you those will only tell the priest to PI an MM hunter

Man, the mm aoe is kinda nutteh

ok but mm hunter and devokers dont exist in keys
its bm and aug
we are not bad actually
From what ive heard it doesnt look like youll be seeing much shadow either, but maybe some disc PI
Careful that shit is delicious
It was on sale last week, had to try so hard not to buy
Silly question, but when Mutiliate changes to ambush, does the ambush apply caustic splatter?
Yes
ty!
It was like the #2 thing we complained about on ptr
#1 thing we complained about was acro for sure
acro 
people bit the forbidden fruit
I thought it was smart targeting IC
cuz i tend to stand at max range
and i'd miss like half of my IC spreads
if i don't have acro i just climb inside those mob's booty holes
and never miss IC

I miss acro cause I can't dps inside sharknado in freehold
Oh, does anyone know spatter range?
Realz said 10
hey someone made a BtE sound wa for last gcd, where can i find that
oh i should read the faw
faq. thx
loving the 10.2 guide on wowhead, just looking at wep enchants currently, what are you guys running atm before the new stuff hits>
so same as IC? 
just gear adjusting
I re-enchanted everything for wafting
1 sophic 1 waft but u should sim yoself
ig that makes sense compared to the clips of whispyr on the spear boss
Didn't you say 11 yesterday
Susge
does assa wanna use wafting devo
2x of them yes
I said 6 teemos

dope
which we calculated out to 9 yards
just eyeballing it using the rocks on the ground in valdrakken
then realz clarified

I don't believe you mr duck

my friend barely scooted back from max melee range with acro
Lets call it 9.5
6.3 teemos
Sounds good to me
i started not taking acro on assa feels better
troo
yeah no acro actually feels better in keys with IC
If youre testing showed closer to 9 or whatever

for people who did keys on ptr, how was assasin comparing to other classes you played against? it's really fun but i have no context for whether it actually pumps or not
As does so little for assa tbh
i put a fish down and stood as far away as i could then made my friend walk as far away as he could on the other side of me
Since spatter and ic no effect
then just kept havin him scoot back until IC stopped hittin him
then put a world marker down
fdmsaklf;nmewaopnfgeaw
and had him scoot forward until it hit him again
No tooltip 

choice node w/ acro
damage increase by 5%, but melee range reduce by 2yd
u take this ?

Gesundheit

Never in my life
realz they don't want logic they want wacky waving inflatable arms 
You know these sim sheep would
sim +5% , soooo
Number go up, must take

1 yard range?
Never
You gotta be inside boss but 10% dam?
Making out with the homies for 5% actually
turbo win for when we fight goth mommy
Based af

you run out of irl soulcrush?
can borrow some of mine
i just

i thought that hotfix was live already but i guess not
I thought whispyr was Realz based on the response
have you seen both of them in the same room?
Also realz because of your lonely island reference i had their songs on my head the entire day today
They were at blizzcon
Hope youre happy
But I wasn’t
So 
lonely island?
Wrong reply? 
no?
ambush will be added to caustic if it wasnt already is the tldr

So you can't confirm
ambush is added to caustic, it's just tooltip doesn't reflect
Wait so is ambush added to caustic spatter?
okay everything is fine then
Yea
Besides 10 people a day asking about it
i thought it wasnt yet and was surprised
I don't remember your name but when I do it's over for you john
well its not on the tooltip so thats fair, that'll be updated later
just ask him about the blazers
I was close
Just remember me as the biggest Quake hater 
You haven’t seen whispyr’s dms to me
quake, the first og true 3d arena shooter? why the hate
He called me a fraud for being the biggest Boots fan
True

You are fraudulent sorry king
didn't have real time raytracing and occulsions buddy checkmate what else is my pentium good for
Show us on the target dummy where Quake touched you
Also fun fact, never played quake. Not quite that old
You could be if you tried harder
I'm calling cap on that I have proof you signed the magna carta
???
I played Quake
Huh
My dad was a man of culture
quake 1 and 2 were pretty early for me, i was like 11-12 maybe? i dont remember exactly, but i was impressed the first time i saw ppl LAN'ing it in an office
lmao
meOld its true
In the weakaura, go to the "Custom Options" tab.
I've added a scroll bar called "Linger duration".
By default it is set to 5 seconds.
That makes both of us brethren 🤝

i cried when they said not allowed to play outlaw anymore if 30+
That would be a bit too young to play violent videogames indeed
It's ok we welcome you
hides in old af, breaks hip
Man hasn’t been allowed to play outlaw since combat
dont tell the cops but i play it anyways
Unreal
This is so evil
From what i've heard you can still play wow though, as long as you dont play outlaw
Yeah for real
I play more than 1 key and I start getting hand pain
Shame cause the rotation is fun and it does good dam
Got it, thank you. Had a 1.5million earlier and was gonna show it off to my guild but it went away too fast
Doesn't happen on other specs but once something goes above like 65-70 apm for me it gets too much
my parents didn't have green cards in 1996

Bro stop
Can't imagine playing outlaw with the usual 1-4 keybinds people use
2 games or eras within a game have caused hand pain for me:
- early d3
- early Legion, Surrender to Madness spriest
D3 is real
I started school in 96, hope that helps
early d3? realz not a rosbot bounty farmer
How do you bind it
SL S4 outlaw was the worst for me
S2M spriest was true to its name, ngl

I think actually RN is worse for me than s4
No
And u only press mod + E or Q
I only have sprint and stealth on mouse
when you got to the void torrent at like 110 stacks or whatever and could just relax for like 3 seconds while it channelled, that was great, and then you died like 5 seconds later
Cause that kinda sounds like a genius setup
E and Q is my rotational
Realz outlaw enjoyer comfirmed. My whole world is shattered.
Mut, envenom, fok, CT, rup, healthpot is e and Q
Ahh, for that I have a different solution.
Also under custom option, there is a toggle button called "Show record", and that's exactly its purpose.
It will look like this (and you say 1.5m? I'm sorry, but you are a weak child-man):
i have enjoyed all rogue specs, i dont buy into manufactured rivalry
That is sick
It's real to us ok 
except for occasional memes but not really
I love this high score WA
and that's without PI (but with evoker buffs)
U saw Whispyrs meme when dreadblades got you ked from outlaw?
see that's what I'm saying
neg
I haven't done a raid yet lol, only done keys and hit target dummy
That was the best outlaw meme to date
There isn’t a brain cell there
quake summon the rabbit meme
On a dummy i think my highest was 1.8. hard to get it higher without BL
from dreadblades
you have it in a folder somewhere
This also a good one
The what
i should have erased the shirt

The rabbit
techno shirt is buggin me
Is bis
nvm there's not that many messages I've sent in outlaw
I tried to find it, think it was in outlaw ptr
Rip ptr channels
whispyr, the voice of outlaw - i seent it on stream of "Maximum"
Ahh yeah didn’t have that one
just send them the whisp murlock gif we have now with no context at all
quite a clean edit
Mf is like “yo you only got 10k or so pics, find this random vague meme.”
“Why is the rogue guy sandbagging in max stream”
it's true!
yes
Was even better because their missing talent node was that rabbit icon
Yeah that was literally me in max chat
Does context of that gif exist?
who been playing sin in keys
Me me
I'm doing similar to my outlaw damage
he bought it and said it here
i asked for a pic
he sended us a pic+gif
I'm not sure if sin is good
thats it
my favorite is the twitch chatters that are like NOOOOOOOOO IT SHOULD BE S TIER
and everyone that comes on the stream goes "what the fuck is the grading system here" and max kinda just shrugs and goes "idk is it good"

Or I'm just bad at outlaw
Not sending keys till Tues
I retired when sin got reworked (I’m a hater)
Did 7 or 8 20-22s this week.
Both
@keen spruce did you try out the IC weakaura? any feedback?
I tried all 3 specs in keys and I did similar damage so what is this
What can I complain about
I just watched it and a good 50% were calling you a sandbagger 
I feel energy starved when playing assasination now with the new sanguine blades talent (lots of gcd's i dont do shit) ... 2 questions.... 1) am I doing it wrong 2 ) is SB a mando talent (M+)?
i thought make i make it glow when garrote is empowered
I have done 7 sin keys in the past 2 days

I mean to be fair they were calling everyone a sandbagger
True
Snd doesn't bother me
El classico twitch chatero
Except running sub without premed
that's the hype generalized insult to throw at theorycrafters these days
Thats when it bothers me
chad ehtical jedith says havoc is s
i did not. I barely know what i'm supposed to do in keys. i'm just pushin buttons
gone are the days of "blizzard shill"
the demon tettles says boomie is b

now I just get called a sandbagger
:3
I mean to be fair I don't think you sandbagged rogue rankings
Yes that's my opinion
People are calling you a sandbagger because we are simming low on live right now 
Like we are A tier or S tier but not op tier currently I think
didn't he also say you'd run vengeance AND havoc in mythic+
that one was a bit questionable
ye but i dont believe that at all
bit farfetched but that's pokemon
Nah a lot of people are thinking that
Veng is doing nuts stuff
perfer sirfetch
- probably nothing, just pool normally, play normally for the most part, 2) once u get 4pc tier, i bet skipping SB will be almost just as good, more energy for envenoms = more poison bomb + 4pc tier explosion
Veng is fucking
Or maybe it's Aug mage Boomie veng
@gaunt moat Lookin at the wago screenshot. I'd say the icon is a little intrusive for me but that's kinda just personal preference.
veng is fucking and its existence hard blocks havoc
Do you guys a prefered weakaura pack for 10.2 you guys like?
Havoc is so good in keys tho
Ty!
Idk how you drop it for boomie
alternative you go prot paladin hdh. boomie, auggie
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
It's pretty small in game
boomie fucks harder than havoc
like alot harder
Havoc owns shit in keys and I aint complaining. A nice spec to play with

idk how I want to track IC
not lying
maybe I just use notters
boomie is insane
I just have a simple buff for IC pop up in the dynamic list of buffs in afenar
feral as well, but boomie is just a betetr feral
the texture is just a little out of place with the rest of me UI. not really a critisism
in lightning fast keys, havoc is almost certainly better than moonkin
@keen spruce @runic hinge
"It's kinda small"
"It's intrusive"


yeah I was thinking that too but idk
ya thats true
notter KB aura is good
i just removed the "highscore" part cus i dont really care about it
but once mobs start surviving for a while, moonkin dmg finds its way up to... the moon 😎
I like it but the only thing I want to change about this is have it count down during dance
I am suprised heavily if havoc is not in the "god comp"
yep, and mage brings mass barrier and other options
IC counts down after opener or vanish but it doesn't count down during dance
A bit annoying
we're gonna see a very diverse season again
until lego comes out and warrior shits on everyone
I am gonna try to setup a WA to count down IC for 6 sec during dance
no fair talking about pvp
lock an ogre or whatever
bdk warrior, auggie, unholy, hpal with lego
Huh
That's cooked
zugzug
I'm gonna go make my IC weakauara look different when garrote is empowered, see you soon.
I just see myself not actually caring about min-maxing carnage that much. gonna get garrotes out, gonna get a few ruptures out, if i do one extra rupture outside of carnage w/e. then i just start slappin sutff idk
Actually loving the caustic spatter gameplay w/ Kingsbane in keys
man i want to know what this lego does
Unholy will never be meta in keys as long as defile covers all ground effects and you die to stuff you can't see
I'm not much of a dungeon min/maxer
im
shaking with ancipiation
vdh, aug, mw, outlaw, bm hunter --- my dark horse "almost meta" sub-meta meta comp
Sooooo frustrating playing it in keys
aug just got nerfed though no way you play aug surely this nerf was the one that does aug in right there's no way aug is still good can't be real that's not possible haha the nerf was like 8-9% no shot right haha
based
getgud
I really wish there was an option to disable certain spell effects from showing, especially other players
simply develop exray eyes
aug "dark horse" 
Defile killed me like 6x per key when I tried unholy in keys lol
but no seriously, if lego is as strong as gavel then warrior wins
Rogue comparitively has such clear vision of floor
My exact guess besides enhance over bm hunter
hands down
None of our abilities are too flashy
thats also interesting
Other melee flashbang themselves with spear of bastion or something
though i wonder if blood dk + lego is > vdh at that point?
I've heard malacath knows what the legendary does
fury warrior holding purple agi cantrip and lego
does anyone have a good MA wa
Shamans got so much util and with full melee, but I feel like you need 1 ranged for these dungeons so idk
idk who that os
he needs it for his felguard
poison bomb can take some screen space
btw, poison bomb should still get its ranged increased by acro, i want my entire screen too be green and die to aoe effects i cant see anymore
@bright cipher is this true
BDK, Aug, Outlaw, Assas, Disc 

depends on how strong it is
We don't know what lego is 
It would be cool if acro increased the range of everything not just melees
maybe:
brew / rdru / aug / enhance / outlaw
Seems stronk
ofc, its BIG damage per second
we're probably gonna run brew/disc/aug/enh/whatever spec I end up playing
Replace law with havoc and I love it
bro gets pinged in every class discord daily for sure over his silly axe
BIG damage

I don't even know I just hope it's not a god comp that doesn't include rogue again
Hi
blood/disc/bm/aug/rogue for my comp
thats me
Malacath is a savior of all warlocks
It was so frustrating last season
Praise him
he pops in once or twice when someone posts it in how
I gave up on pushing entirely
what?
i heard malacath personally sandbagged warlock sims early this xpac though
He’s inevitable
much rather prot pal > brew in that case, but i guess
VDH / Enhance / assa / aug /disc is actually gonna be the meta comp
Wait plater updates done!?!? 😄
It's ok if Aug is required but there needs to be a couple comps with it
had fun chillin and chatting
I said you know what the legendary effect is
Do you know the legendary axe
yeah already updated
Season 1 had such diversity at high keys
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Afenar's Group
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Whispyr's Plater
Pooling Practice Tool
How did u get summoned instantly
nerf auggie by making ebon might not effect healers and tanks bye bye
he got pinged
True, that’s fair. I just love Brm players, they’re always so positive
no, i don't lol
Oh
Honestly all the tanks and healers look amazing
u can safely delete holy there
yeah, blasonjiro is a famous beacon of positivity 
Surely he meant hpal right? 
omniscience is a cool skill
brew is a lifestyle for sure, if u find a brew main they're going to own
brm tcers based making cursed cow based sims
He hides his positivity under a gruff exterior
surely
okay done
Whoa don’t shit talk cows
Cows are the best













